strategy

[astral cosmos]

oh i managed it

almost

new issue: drone leaks

[normal flume]

also yheah, til. i thought these were like, alternate attack zones

[astral cosmos]

i forgot the mechanics of the drone tbh

[glass monolith]

WAIT DRONE CAN LEAK?

[dark mantle]

Yea

[dark mantle]

u can kill when its in matrice
u cant when its not in there

[astral cosmos]

ya i remember now

[willow sun]

wtfart how

[astral cosmos]

well uh

does ros spawn matrices when enraged

[willow sun]

she removes them at start of p2 and p3

[normal flume]

I think I mistimed logos' skill?

[astral cosmos]

well

[normal flume]

Should I keep going?

[scarlet mortar]

phase 3 no

she'll just fly and smack nearby ops

[astral cosmos]

drone just goes around at full hp

[willow sun]

nah she removes matrices

[scarlet mortar]

yh that's what i said

[astral cosmos]

by the time logos kills the knight lancer the drone is already at the blue box

ril!!!

[scarlet mortar]

she doesn't spawn any matrices

she retreats them all

[astral cosmos]

my phone is dying so i'll stop the attempts for now

[willow sun]

logos should kill the drone before p2 tho

[normal flume]

@willow sun

[elder flume]

phase 2 pog

[rich plover]

Need help with SP08

Again, lineup

[full terrace]

Idk bro your ops are pretty underleveled

You can try Naran + Amiya

Roll for good RNG where Naran dodges a few hits from ufo

And Amiya behind Naran doing True Damage at the ufo

[rich plover]

Amiya Caster or Guard?

[full terrace]

Guard can hit drones?

[rich plover]

Sorry sorry I get it

Probably just gonna get another distractor

[smoky halo]

wait for mod delta guard bro

can hit air

‼️

[full terrace]

I just tested, Naran can take care of the ufo

But needs a bit of RNG

[rich plover]

The ufo is not an issue

The bigger issue are the vans

Or uh rovers

[full terrace]

I think I have a solution

Gimme a min

[normal flume]

It's over

i needed nothign less than a play by play. thank you to everyone for al the help

time to go cry tears of relief and sleep

[astral cosmos]

[normal flume]

mai take away, lvl up everyone to e2lv10 s7

[rich plover]

Nymph's S2 is pretty funny ngl

Good stalling

[normal flume]

So based on the last two days, who should I level up?

[astral cosmos]

yeah i was gonna talk about this lmao

[full terrace]

There

Oh god you have no idea how many resets it took me to get Naran to survive

[rich plover]

Thx man lol

[full terrace]

You are welcome

[rich plover]

How leveled should she be

[full terrace]

Mine is E2 Lv60

S1M3

Shamare E2 Lv1 S2L7

Orchid max

[rich plover]

Regarding skill specialization, can you only specialize one or can you do all 3?

[full terrace]

Can do all 3 if you wish

But I wouldnt waste resources

[smoky halo]

u can m3 all if u want

[full terrace]

I use Naran for comfy afk only

[smoky halo]

i use naran for

wait i dont own naran

[full terrace]

Her S3 is her burst skill but it's pretty mid compared to like

Wisadel, Logos

So I use Naran strictly for AFK

[rich plover]

Unfortunate she's one of my few good ranged DPS

[astral cosmos]

absolutely e2 eyjalter, zuo le, degen, shu, ela, reedic
you can also e2 gg, horn, tuya, typhon, lin, even dorothy later
so many good ops left unbuilt looks like my roster lmao

focus on the first ones i mentioned

masteries/module wise for the ones you've built already:
yato s3m3, s2m3 if you want, mod1 at least iirc
kaltsit s3m3 modY3 (mod alpha lv3 if u play IS)
ceobe s2m3 modX3
virt s3m3
saria s1m1
gavialter s3m3 mod3 if u want

for the ones you'll e2:
zuo le s3m3 s2m3 mod3
degen s3m3 mod1 at least
shu s3m3
ela s3m3 mod3
reedic s3m3, s2m3 if u want
gg s3m3
horn s3m3, s1m3, up to u, either or both (i use s1 more)
tuya s3m3, s1m3 if u want afk, else sleep
typhon s2m3 mod1 at least
lin s3m3 mod3

not in any particular order

[full terrace]

Yea you can M3 her S3 for the carry til you get better ranged dps

Typhon, Ray, Wisadel

[rare perch]

I'm stuck on the second Tallulah fight.this is my line up, and I've been able to beat her second phase once.
I first put lumen on the lower left square of the peninsula facing up, Ines to catch the bears, then mountain on the square by Tallulah spawn on the other path to catch the other side of enemies. Then myrtle to the right of him. Then I get bloody table set up(naran s3 and warfarin s2) and deal phase 1. I Then use gladia and lap for the casters that spawn and then I just try and kill tall and survive.

[teal moon]

congratulations. Big cheer to @astral cosmos and @willow sun

[full terrace]

JT8-3?

[rare perch]

Yes

[full terrace]

Here #strategy message. I'll repost:

JT8-3 basically you need to survive ignition, the crossfire explosion, and the fireballs. There are 2 techniques to counter them:

1. The FRDs technique like this #strategy message. Basically you bait the ignitions with 2 FRDs every 20 secs (Talulah's cooldown is 19 secs), and then retreat. No ignited operators = no crossfire explosion. The fireballs damage can also be shared with your FRDs later.
2. The constant healing technique like this #strategy message and this #strategy message. Basically you use Nightingale's RES buff to survive ignition, crossfire explosion, and fireballs.

[rare perch]

Thx

[full terrace]

Lemme know if you are still stuck, try to identify where you got stuck at.

[valid kindle]

i can't man

rosmo 2.5p too thick

[full terrace]

Did you get all the buffs? SP01-08

[valid kindle]

yes

[full terrace]

VEC-03 #strategy message
VEC-04 #strategy message
VEC-05 #strategy message
VEC-07 #strategy message
VEC-08 #strategy message

[tidal sedge]

They're doing red head only I think

[astral cosmos]

who's in ur squad btw

i mean niche

[valid kindle]

my name

[full terrace]

Yeah no I'm not helping people play niche, I'm a firm believer that if someone plays niche they should know what they are doing. I'm sure @civic bear will be happy to help tho, try asking him for input.

[valid kindle]

comparing if borrow ray or narantuya, ray brought more progress

[astral cosmos]

i know, but who's in there specifically and are they all maxed

i just forgor who's a redhead aside from the ops u used in the sc

[cerulean vector]

Aight did that one guy beat VEC 7 & 8? 😹

[astral cosmos]

they did

[cerulean vector]

That was quite a rodeo

[tidal sedge]

Do you guys have a personal fav clear you saw/did?

[astral cosmos]

there's quite a handful of clears im really happy with, but tbh the contenders for my best are probably frostleaf is3 solo, RS-8 badknights or jesselton annihilation no stun devices + no melee tiles + physical dmg only + no chalter s3 (back in the days)

although ngl h9-4 vanguardknights blew me away

[tidal sedge]

Frostleaf IS3 solo!?!

Madman wtf.

[astral cosmos]

a broken operator

[tidal sedge]

Is it on YT?

(I tried couldn't find it)

[astral cosmos]

wait im thinking the wrong stage i think

the one with mandragora...

[tidal sedge]

H9-6 yeah

That's what I thought haha

[astral cosmos]

mb it was this one yeah https://youtu.be/ZHXAT4ju7C8?si=WuXp4LWQbS0Ld6tg

[tidal sedge]

I just checked it on Arkrec, Wis plus Scene duo that stage

Saga usage 🥹

[tidal sedge]

Yep it's amazing, beautiful clear

[elder flume]

Prob Talulah E0 run

Or whichever it was that took 30 mins

[glass monolith]

My first run of DH-9 on newbie account be like

[full terrace]

I had fun doing E0 Lv1 run until around Chapter 2 midway when I first started on my alt

I was planning to push it until around Chapter 4 or something but lost interest real fast

#strategy message

[valid kindle]

I DID IT.

#salt-mines

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfcezGIOec

This reminds me of the PSX Save State - Load State 😂

[pure orchid]

Name checks out once again 😭

[willow sun]

14-18 adverse fedex + mlynar duo

i don’t even remember the clear and i didn’t record it

but it had a few frame perfect timings that i had to do on mobile lol

also this was pretty peak

[little fractal]

I have come to share a fun strategy I'm developing 24k Chiave bomb

Skalter not factored

[elder flume]

I assume op stacking doesnt work anymore to reach 32 bit integer with Chiave

Anyway isnt Stainless S1 alr better than 2 robots

[little fractal]

it's mostly modifiers, I don't have them in any particular order but
Chiave 643 Atk

• 75% Atk & Def from Robots all deployed
• 35% Fragile from Ela
• 30% ARTS fragile from Qani
• 50% Atk Aak
• 40% Atk Pallas
  350% Chiave S2
  150% Logos
• 14% Atk Castle talent

[little fractal]

ain't got him built so he's not real

[elder flume]

Ifrit S3 Saria S3

[little fractal]

not built

[elder flume]

Not even Warf

[little fractal]

nope

It can certainly go higher, but I am working with what I got

[full terrace]

Reed Arts Fragility, Texas % res shred

Now you have my complete Arts team 😂

[little fractal]

Does Reeds Cinder stack?

[full terrace]

It's Arts Fragility so it stacks with Fragile and whatever Saria S3 is

[little fractal]

Saria is arts taken, Qani arts fragile is higher than Reeds

I could borrow Saria, another 55%

so saria could be added bringing it to a theoretical 38k

[little fractal]

Reed Cinder is 20% (w/o pots) and Qani is 30%

[full terrace]

Qani 20% Arts Fragility on Aerial Enemies only. Reed is 30% Arts Fragility universal

[full terrace]

Okay I didnt consider Module, but Reed still better coz it also applies to ground

[little fractal]

Oh I must've misread earlier, yes she has 30% but both of them need skill to guarantee

I am trying to build Leviateknights and I'm just missing Chong Yue and Aroma, that's why I have qani (also M9 ho'ol)

When Catherine comes out she could replace 1 of the robots since she also gives 15% atk

[full terrace]

Why not use Warfarin as well btw? Thats 90% Atk

@elder flume you think that Skalter's Inspiration worth less than any of those ops in their setup?

[little fractal]

warf not built

also skalter is more there to make sure the robots don't die

[full terrace]

Texas S2 is also pretty nice as portable Ifrit. Ifrit shreds harder with Module but is harder to position. Texas performs like Ela bomb.

[elder flume]

Skalter is like 300 extra attack

[full terrace]

Yeah worth less hmm

[elder flume]

I personally prefer debuffs

[full terrace]

300 atk is after everything got calculated right

At the end of the formula

[safe cape]

Guys can you help me make a team for grinding and finish the story

[elder flume]

Ye with trust n mod

Prob closer to 350

[full terrace]

Yeh Skalter sucks

😂

[safe cape]

I literally don't know what I doing right now

[full terrace]

I honestly prefer CE now

[wary imp]

help guys

[maiden hound]

build ines nearl sa and can i see whoever's on the right of fang

[full terrace]

The possessed can handle the doggoes I tried before

[elder flume]

Each stage uses different ops tbh

[wary imp]

okie

[full terrace]

I got 4 possessed vs 20+ doggoes before

And the crocs I believe they can take care of the casters?

[safe cape]

Here

[wary imp]

😐

[maiden hound]

rockrock is also viable. build her

[full terrace]

Lol RIP. Sorry about that.

[wary imp]

np

[safe cape]

Thank you for helping me

[full terrace]

But possessed still slaughtered doggoes right?

[wary imp]

yes

[full terrace]

Okay so casters demolished crocs

RIP crocs

@wary imp you havent reach 999999999 Ingots yet?

[wary imp]

yes

[willow sun]

-# do i smell peteryr about to be sent

[full terrace]

Try this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfcezGIOec

[willow sun]

yup

[wary imp]

[full terrace]

What else but to cheat 😏

[wary imp]

[willow sun]

@honest dove if youre extra lazy

sp01 any laneholder
sp02 any dps
sp03 any laneholder + bait unit (can be e0 1)
sp04 fedex/ling/zuo le/mlynar solo, theres others too
sp05 any laneholder + bait unit (preferrably a summoner, can be e0 1)
sp06 any dps
sp07 qiubai solo, or just bring two dps
sp08 nymph/degenbrecher/mlynar solo, or just bring AA dps + regular dps + bait unit (can be e0 1)

clear all the sp0X stages and then just walk through the main vec0X stages

[honest dove]

tysm

[full terrace]

It seems like Mon3tr is a good a burst healer according to chisa

Has 1k hps on herself (S3), then jump to 2 other allies

So 1k, 750, 560

Its a pretty decent heal

Shu S3 has 1.1k hps in comparison and is single target

So hps-wise she still loses to Shu slightly but total healing amount is > Shu thanks to her archetype

[weak gazelle]

it has to be or nga riot :ya:
simply eyjaberry already do that
if mon3tr equal or less than her it really funny slop hg did

[full terrace]

Dont think she outheals Eyjaberry there

The 5 stacks heal is a lot tho

and Eyjaberry has a freaking great uptime
I think she heals more than Nightingale tho
...does she not?

[weak gazelle]

not outheal her in general
but mon3tr can hit enemy and deal true (both target count and dmg) which is better

[elder flume]

She is funi but idk if i would pull

[full terrace]

If she outheals Nightingale, I pull

[weak gazelle]

forgor how many jump the heal can get
is it 3 or 4?

[full terrace]

I love my Medics bruh

[weak gazelle]

i see
myself not really excited cause its medic but will see
especially her skill cycle

[lofty stag]

Do medicknights NOW

Also no reed skin is heresy

[full terrace]

I'm not into that niche, I just love my Medics 🤣

Original > Fancy skins 😏

[scarlet fulcrum]

Hopefully s3 is flat hp

[weak gazelle]

yeah no wizard skin

[lofty stag]

In terms of cars, I agree, in terms of good looking pngs, hell naw 🥱

[weak gazelle]

ah yeah that too if flat that would be better

[scarlet fulcrum]

5000 flat like surtr surely

[weak gazelle]

weird ...atk all blocked enemy
yesterday i see atk all enemy in range

[scarlet fulcrum]

I heard its 3*3, the wording just hg thing, smt like equal to block count

[weak gazelle]

centurion treatment... fuck it
it shit as fuck, vina better then

[full terrace]

Problem with Mon3tr is that, she needs to hit things to heal

Which sucks

Is basically Reed melee mode

But I like the True Damage

[scarlet fulcrum]

Im still curious with the rec form trait, because from description its imply can perform heal

[elder flume]

Isnt it always heal due to summon decay

[weak gazelle]

its not a problem, just mean mon3tr love being deployed in busy lane :ya:

[full terrace]

It's like a tower thingy last time I saw in youtube

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea thats part of it

[full terrace]

Maybe similar to NG's cage? Idk

[weak gazelle]

ohh its decaying, that even better

[scarlet fulcrum]

Number 👀 hopefully not dissapointing like chain med base stats

[weak gazelle]

atk/sp recovery and decaying surely its have a use case

[full terrace]

The summon decays? Woh

[elder flume]

My Chen mod 3 has a use

[full terrace]

Means she heals 24/7

[weak gazelle]

uhhmmm
i didnt expect good base stat from it
looking to the multiplier instead

[full terrace]

Oh and one thing

Apparently S3 is Offensive Recovery

15~17 secs to charge up

Does healing her summon counts as filling up her SP bar?

[lofty stag]

Surely it would

[weak gazelle]

same🤝
still use chen here and there (IS mostly)

[full terrace]

That would be flippin broken then

[lofty stag]

Cuz offensive recovery is from an attack

[full terrace]

17 secs is fast

[lofty stag]

It is

17/25 is a crazy cycle

If true

[full terrace]

Time to check my wallet

[lofty stag]

That’s a problem for future me

[elder flume]

Reject funi cute girl embrace gamebreaking bugs

[lofty stag]

Just realized

How many ops have skills with longer skill time than cd

Other than asca s2 let say

[elder flume]

Theres alr like 30 ish with 50 hour duration

[lofty stag]

Wdym 50 hour

[full terrace]

😂

[elder flume]

Infinite skills

[lofty stag]

Lemme add

[elder flume]

Are 1 hour pre update n 50 hours post update

[full terrace]

This is why I like Rain

[lofty stag]

Also other than infinite skills

[weak gazelle]

tuta s2

15/30 cycle

[lofty stag]

Even with offensive recov?

It would be heavily variable tho

Cuz of loopshooter mechanics

[weak gazelle]

nah its faster than you think

superior range design and talent she have, make it feel quick

[lofty stag]

I see

So is there no one else

Wait

Does fire watch s1 count

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea 20 50

[weak gazelle]

ah yeah fw s1 mod is goated

[scarlet fulcrum]

Even shorter with mod

[lofty stag]

Also hoe s3

[scarlet fulcrum]

Kal s2 also count ig

[lofty stag]

Cuz 50 70

[weak gazelle]

this spesific sniper age really well

[full terrace]

I didnt know Mon3tr's summon decays, that changes thing. I'm pulling her.

[weak gazelle]

hahaha
good luck then

[lofty stag]

I’m glad to help in the conversion to m3 competitionism 🥹

[scarlet fulcrum]

It will boost talent 1 most of the time

[full terrace]

Her role is awfully similar to Kaltsit. She basically does what Kaltsit does but she heals allies now.

[elder flume]

Like mother like daughter

But teenager rebel era

[lofty stag]

Like mother like spinal cord you mean

[lofty stag]

Also she is not a rebel

[full terrace]

Also I like the 17s Offensive Recovery. If say, I got Flourishing Suffering

[lofty stag]

She is a pookie

Have you seen her tap anim

[full terrace]

Can I just deploy FRD in front of her

Assuming she got aspd Relics

That insta fill up SP bar

Nice pocket True Damage

Does her summon have global range?

[lofty stag]

that I dunno

Might have to wait till she comes out

At worst it’s within her range

[full terrace]

That would suck 😂

[lofty stag]

Also more likely

Maybe extended range?

Cuz the summon is meant to help bounce her heals

[full terrace]

Hopefully it's global. There is no reason to not make it global

Kaltsit's Mon3tr was global

[lofty stag]

True

[full terrace]

It decays anyway right

[weak gazelle]

i doubt

[full terrace]

So global = kills itself without Mon3tr herself nearby

[lofty stag]

Oh that’s also true

[weak gazelle]

yeah, decays

[lofty stag]

And unlike monster idt the summon does any dmg

So if it doesn’t get healed it’s useless

[full terrace]

It doesnt but it acts as an anchor point for her S3

When she jumps down to ground tile

[lofty stag]

Hmm

Honestly I’m much more a fan of waiting it out

[elder flume]

Not a line sub pogu

[lofty stag]

And seeing the hard proof of her mechanics

[somber falcon]

preview shows it's a jumping point for heals, so it won't make sense to have it spawn outside her range

[full terrace]

I'm already like 70% convinced to pull her

[elder flume]

Im expecting 2 bugs with her

[lofty stag]

That’s a pass in academia

Sooo

It’s kinda equal to 100%

[full terrace]

Depends on the youtube showcase people will make in a few days

[lofty stag]

I’m pulling cuz she’s a pookie 🥹

And also at worst decent

I love me another op that’s NOT a guard

[full terrace]

I pull mainly because she is a Medic 😏

[karmic glade]

There are already a showcase pv from hg, looks pretty decent, +45 ASPD 30s AOE buff from s2 is kinda insane

S1 HPS is a little bit less than eyja S1 but also heals 4

S3 got 1000 HPS and 7k HP, so basically unkillable in most normal content, and if it works like ulp s3 (redeployment) it would be insane in IS

[full terrace]

Thats why I need the summon to have global range, for IS

I mean Kaltsit summon was global, would only be fair if hers is also global

Also S2 has +45 aspd?

[turbid badge]

Does Monst3r get her module on release?

[opaque kraken]

No chain medic mod yet iirc

[turbid badge]

Oh yeah none

[full terrace]

+45 aspd is a lot. Shu has +25 only and the effect is already felt

[turbid badge]

deadg

[scarlet fulcrum]

Talent 1 already stated its only within range

[full terrace]

Ohh yehhh I missed that line

Man it sucks

Not the end of the world but it sucks

[scarlet fulcrum]

We hope in good number

[full terrace]

Her hps is 726/544/408 for 3/2/1 targets, and S2 double those numbers according to chisa, pretty good numbers

But then again, she has great cycle

And Vina's cycle sucks

[sly drift]

Server aint even up. How come people mathing

[lofty stag]

Hg released preview vid of m3 kit

And you could see some numbers there

[elder flume]

We have insider

[sly drift]

Do we know what level or what skill level the op is

[full terrace]

Rain!! 😂😂🤣🤣

[smoky halo]

preview is maxed

so e2 90 m3

[full terrace]

Nice

S2 has the most appeal for me

If she AoE heals like 1k per heal on average, on a +45 aspd buff thats going to be insane

Also aspd buff is always nice to have since it doesnt collide with most buffs

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh its already out, its really flat +5000

[elder flume]

Surtr moment

[full terrace]

Is it 7k+5k or 2k+5k?

[elder flume]

Latter

[full terrace]

Thanks

[tidal sedge]

Damn, might have to pull for Mon3tr. She's looking good so far.

[maiden hound]

what about him

[willow sun]

wtf mon3tr gains +500 hp from trust???

goddamn

[tidal sedge]

[vernal delta]

best place to set up the killing is here right?

[glass monolith]

Gg wp she tankier than Chalter which I used to face tank Talulah firebullshit

[willow sun]

i don’t wanna spoil skill if you haven’t seen yet but her s3 is literally just surtr s3

but like

powercrept

[willow sun]

that’s probably the worst place ngl cause you’ll just explode to the casters

and if you can sweep casters then you should have no issues killing him

i kill him below red box on his first loop around

if you let him finish looping then now you’ll have to hold 3 lanes AND kill the boss

ideally you kill him before he can break the boxes

just make sure you remember which tiles he can hit while you kill him and which tiles are safe from casters while you kill them

i bring ethan to bind him since you can’t block him

alternatively qiubai or CE for bind

but they’re expensive

[vernal delta]

i can clear the casters fine with yato alter. So around here?

[willow sun]

yes

[vernal delta]

okay ty, ill bring ethan next time.

[willow sun]

id do it one or two tiles to the right though

[glass monolith]

His blink has CD. His Dodge don't work while blocked. You can bait blink before 2 red boxes and try to burst him right after. Or blink after red boxes and burst then but in that case he will AoE hit high ground. At least from what I recall/assume. I personally Fartooth him 30 times

[willow sun]

otherwise he’ll start attacking ethan and his aoe will stun your other troops

ya his aoe is pretty deadly

blink does have cd but he’s not especially tanky so i just brute force through his dodge (true damage also works, CE propaganda)

actually can he even blink while binded

[glass monolith]

With my luck 40% dodge enemy is effectively 87%

[willow sun]

wait wait wait

just wait 6 months and bring windscoot

ez

[elder flume]

Contrail meta

[snow juniper]

What's a general squad guideline for the current limited annihilation?

[glass monolith]

@elder flume Will you test every single "feature" on the new AK engine on CN?

[next wigeon]

@snow juniper Try this Squad Layout

Temporary Substitutes
Ulpianus - Hoederer
Shu - Saria
Shining - Silence
Lancer 3 - Perfumer

I don't have Hoe, Saria or Silence so had to make do

What I did was place Ines first on the tile where Ulpianus is to the left

Then place Lancet on the lit furnace tile

You can change it to perfumer

Then placed Ely at the back for dp gen

Ines > Lancet on Fire Tile > Elysium > Light the furnace near Ines > Warf on Fire tile on the furnace below Ines > Shining > Mylnar next to the furnace > Light the Furnace next to Mylnar > Cuora > Degen > Typhon > change Ines to Ulpianus (Hoe) > place Lappland facing down > Place Shu (Saria) on Fire tile

[next wigeon]

Tested it, it works

[elder flume]

I dont play cn

Tho expect atleast 2 bugs related to Mon3tr

[hallow escarp]

so, hii, its been a while since I last played the game, and I am mostly lost on what to use, what to build, and what to just sit there, I know it depends on for what Ill be usin, so, could anyone help me buildin a team for welp, main story progress and general stuff I guess? heres the ops I got

[maiden hound]

money on reed alter/saria/cantabile

[astral cosmos]

also, it would be good for you to pull on orienteering methinks

[hallow escarp]

noted!

[maiden hound]

also listen to monseiur rechord over there

[hallow escarp]

did, and got Saileach, I think I shouldnt have selected she..

[astral cosmos]

erm

yeah

who did you select

[hallow escarp]

'em

[astral cosmos]

unfortunate

skip then, bricked selection

[hallow escarp]

aswell, got zero currency for pulls

[astral cosmos]

yep that too

skip the upcoming banner btw. unless you like the ops on there

[hallow escarp]

oki

[astral cosmos]

you can save for lappalter and/or yu and/or probably mon3ter depending on the verdict

[hallow escarp]

humm, noted aswell

also I got an 5* selector with a couple ops, is there any priority with it?

[astral cosmos]

aside from this, you can focus on e2 reedic mainly
and saria/cantabile like varris said

I will never miss an occasion to do IS propaganda. try integrated strategies
did you use all your vouchers yet? (e2/selectors)
ah yeah ok some vouchers left

what's in it?

[novel parrot]

Which Weedy skill should I M3 now? I alr have her S3M3. Talking about challenge content

[tidal sedge]

That's all

[astral cosmos]

s2m3 if you're aiming for specific content like is4 ed3 alt. else ur good

[astral cosmos]

grab proviso and e2 her if possible

[hallow escarp]

by e2, means those?

[novel parrot]

Got it, alr finished everything on IS4

[astral cosmos]

cresson

knights is ed4

[tidal sedge]

This piece of shit

[novel parrot]

Just don't wanna do the 30 HP thing

[glass monolith]

Ah shit I need to do IS

[novel parrot]

This...

[astral cosmos]

can u show all your 4*?
you can use the 5* e2 voucher on proviso. for the 4*, you can grab ethan from shop and e2 him with that. aside from this, probably cutter is a choice. check #help pins for more details

[tidal sedge]

Then you're good.

[novel parrot]

But, on content like the new CC, S1 is better than S2?

[astral cosmos]

is weedy even used in ccb3

[tidal sedge]

S3 was used for CC B3

[novel parrot]

Mk

[tidal sedge]

Ofc

[novel parrot]

So I'll save it for future content

[astral cosmos]

ya there's stuff to work with, great
do /baseskills in #bot-spam, raise some base slaves. they only need e1 lv1 if they're 4*
and as I said check #help pins for where to use the 4* e2 vouchers on

[hallow escarp]

oh, alright, tysm! ima look into everything u mentioned

but also, why proviso?

[astral cosmos]

she is your best base worker

she prints a lot of lmd in trading post at the expense of eating a lot of gold
great investment in the long run

you can check #r-i-i-c pins for more info on base combos

[hallow escarp]

ooh I see, so the base is indeed a big thing, alright, gotcha

[astral cosmos]

yeah the base is your main exp/lmd income

you don't farm CE/LS stages

[novel parrot]

Making like 70k in a day is crazy

[astral cosmos]

-# me making 6k a day

[novel parrot]

I do Lappy Texas and Proviso combo

And the other I just put a the 3 30% more durable

Popukar, Gummy and the vampire lord guard

Forgot his name

[astral cosmos]

midnight

[maiden hound]

you done with main theme yet

[tough glen]

hi guys, pre 6-5, where do you farm e2 materials? I thought amiya might be easiest to e2, but her orange material is not available in stages pre 6-5

[novel parrot]

I can't get more OP

That's the point that I am rn

[maiden hound]

IS/RA/annihilation maps/event shop

[maiden hound]

is that the answer to my question

[azure roost]

@maiden hound diff auto lmfao

[novel parrot]

Yes

[tough glen]

can this be done with all e1 units

[maiden hound]

do you have any e2 units

[novel parrot]

At least Myrtle E2 bro

[maiden hound]

like 14-23 finished

[tough glen]

no that's how i was stuck, cause i cant even bring in e2 supports for 6-5, cause they all show up as e1

[novel parrot]

Yes

[astral cosmos]

IS yes. you can just borrow wisadel at the start and breeze through the mode

[maiden hound]

do you have the tickets for e2 in depot

[maiden hound]

got siege?

[tough glen]

i have just the one that levels an e2 unit to level 80

[novel parrot]

But for E2 Support you need to get at least on E2 OP in the squad

[astral cosmos]

not in IS

[novel parrot]

No LOL

[maiden hound]

where's the instant e2 unit then

[tough glen]

thats for a unit to be e2, that gets levelled to 80

OHH

[astral cosmos]

IS lets you borrow e2 units whether you have e2s yourself or not

[tough glen]

i think i used it accidentally on that healer

ptilopsis?

she's e2

[maiden hound]

put her in squad and borrow

[astral cosmos]

that is quite unfortunate

[tough glen]

does she have to be on the team for me to use e2

AH

Thanks!

lol arknights im coming to so late, i wanted to see if what i could with no guides

it was fun, not knowing meta etc, but now im stuck lol

[novel parrot]

To get a E2 Support on normal content, you need to get a E2 Operator in the squad

[astral cosmos]

this excludes IS

[tough glen]

yep i get it now, ptilopsis id removed cause of her backrange, used forward healers, but i have to put her in now to get the e2 support

wow there's a huge difference between e1 hoshiguma and e2

[tough glen]

myrtle needs the grindstones, and all the stages say rare, is it still worth it to farm

can the vector kernel breakthrough thing be done with e1 units, all the guides are showing e2 lone operators to unlock the perks

[maiden hound]

you can farm vec-01 again and again and again

[ocean ether]

You can do IS with E1 operators. Any E2 operator you borrow will be E2 as well

[elder flume]

Is Myrtle E2 still a thing

[scarlet fulcrum]

nope, its moved to 5* now

[glass monolith]

With e2 ticket it is now Amiya E2 as one of most acceptable yet questionable course of action early game

[elder flume]

Poor Myrtle

[shell arch]

It's probably e2 pro🅱️iso now

[scarlet fulcrum]

Myrtle prob just on CC era for desperated dude back then. It was like recommendation on other side community iirc

newb who forced squad risk and dp risk at the same time

nowadays the carry built different, and the tags kinda nerfed

[glass monolith]

I recall funny moment in help forever ago - some guy with everyone like e1 10, but Gavial for some reason e1 max, and low materials. So there was chaotic arguing over e2 Gavial first to e2 meta and roll event, or e2 something else at risk of not making it in time for event medals or whatever

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats interesting

[elder flume]

What if engine change fixed frame rounding

[glass monolith]

What if engine change fixed float point stuff

[tough glen]

thanks for this! nearly missed all the rewards lol

[smoky halo]

i hope its true

makes calcing shit easier

🚬

[thick onyx]

Does anyone have swire the elegant wit with mod Y? i want to try something out

er wait

what am I saying

[hazy sinew]

yes but e1 l1 or something

[thick onyx]

mod Y, not s2 (edited the message)

[hazy sinew]

nvm

[thick onyx]

i wanna see how much she wears down Rosmontis in phase 3 with modY equipped

but I don't wanna spend the mats on it right now

[willow sun]

@tiny moat

[tiny moat]

cool. thank you. would this supplement all stages for all rewards and all medals?

[willow sun]

4/5 medals i think

you need to clear vec8 for the last medal

sp are just the special front/buff stages

[tiny moat]

#help message here are my units

[willow sun]

do them first for free points + medals + buffs to clear main stages

or if you’re giga stacked you could try clearing main vec stages with no buffs for fun

[tiny moat]

add fart and marc

[willow sun]

yeah you’re chilling lol

[tiny moat]

cool

[willow sun]

here we’re my clears

[tiny moat]

cool

thank you for your time

[full terrace]

[Mon3tr]
2235 HP
558 Atk
221 Def
0 Res
18 DP
1 Block
2.85s Interval

Talent 1: Can summon a Reconstructor within Attack Range that can only be healed by Mon3tr. Allied units in the surrounding 8 tiles of the Reconstructor gain 15% Atk (20% with Potential). When the Reconstructor is healed by itself and Mon3tr, the healing bounces an additional time without reduced healing.

Talent 2: When Mon3tr and the Reconstructor heal an ally, grants 20 Aspd (22 with Potential) to self and the target for 10 secs (does not stack).

S3: 11 Initial SP, 15 SP Cost, Offensive Recovery, 25 secs Duration. Attack Range changes to 8 tiles around self, and moves to the Reconstructor's position. Gain +330% Atk, +2 Block, +5000 HP, and reduce Interval by 1.5 secs. Mon3tr loses 80 HP per sec and attack all blocked enemies. Damage type changes to True, and attack self-heals equal to 50% of Atk. Returns to the original position when skill ends or upon receiving fatal damage.

S2: 15SP Cost, Offensive Recovery, 30 secs Duration. Prioritizes healing the Reconstructor. Whenever the Reconstructor is healed by Mon3tr, the healing bounces an additional time. Talent 2 effect is multiplied by 2.8 times.
S2 hps: 730/1278/1688 for 1/2/3 target. +56 Aspd to self and the target.

P.S. The Reconstructor decays. Healing the Reconstructor fills up her Offensive Recovery SP bar.

[elder flume]

[full terrace]

+15~20% Atk and +56~61 Aspd while enjoying Shu/Eyja level of burst heal.

I'm loving that S2

[glass monolith]

Bro is ambulance

[tidal sedge]

That s3 is a design I thought they'd give to an incantation medic

[tidal sedge]

I'm so glad she's not disappointing. They cooked with her kit

Looking forward to using her.

Might be M6 worthy too

[full terrace]

People say her S3 is a bad kal, but idk

Kal is way slower than her, there is a comparison video in youtube

Not exactly comparison, but they were used side by side

[civic bear]

ppl cant evaluate true dmg dps brah

no matter who

cuz their unconsciousness keep referring to a normal dps

[full terrace]

I like her attack speed, seems like gonna be an asset for IS

[civic bear]

its very simple like

kal is just low cycle blocker sustain guard/defender

closer to juggernaut

m3 is medic support with true dmg access

basicly like reed

vina is the main dps cuz its the highest total damage access

theres a reason why cc10 had nearlter core in all clears instead of kaltsit

[full terrace]

Do not ping me for your nonsense meme, thank you very much

[hazy sinew]

woahh arfly aggression no way

[acoustic slate]

Nope arf is right

[void river]

help

[full terrace]

Did you unlock all the buffs?

SP01~08

[void river]

yes

[full terrace]

VEC-03 #strategy message
VEC-04 #strategy message
VEC-05 #strategy message
VEC-07 #strategy message
VEC-08 #strategy message

[void river]

I unlocked lol

[full terrace]

Yes and click on that link and watch how to clear that stage

You still got couple more strong ops, it shouldnt be an issue

[narrow pendant]

U have the entire map, dont camp the blue box with the whole squad🥹

[void river]

samurai just yonked

[void river]

so logos can't solo it?

[narrow pendant]

He duos the stage

[void river]

?

[tidal sedge]

[full terrace]

He cant. The question is more of why do you need him to solo? Are you trying to make a record or trying to clear the stage

[wicked minnow]

but do you really need the entire map

[void river]

solo not mean only him. Just a core damage to clear shit

[full terrace]

And the link I sent you just did that shit

[void river]

finally. Idk how I made it

[full terrace]

Congrats and dont blog

[spark sinew]

that's a lot of units but no logos

[void river]

I thought u sent me how to clear buffs

[void river]

yeah, because he's a garbage

[narrow pendant]

Insane take

Get good

[full terrace]

Nah your skill is garbage. Someone even duo with him

Dont need the full 12 slots of E2s

13 even

[narrow pendant]

Wait till bro hears theres a buffless, four 4* clear

🤫

[void river]

nah u

Im fine

[round junco]

everyone told you to use s3 yet you're complaining when he wasn't doing anything with s1

[void river]

update not come so I can't chose a specific skill

ppl only was with s1

[round junco]

none of your friends have s3 up?

that's crazy

[full terrace]

Said the one who came here crying begging for help. I dont need help to clear this piss easy stage.

[void river]

good for u

[void river]

not much logos friends I guess and only s1

[narrow pendant]

Then find someone with s3

[wispy condor]

find better friends

[full terrace]

More like, get good like Fredi said

Couldnt clear with those stacked ops

[wispy condor]

holy shit ela/mlynar core dps with shamare and . rosmontis boss was somehow still a problem

[narrow pendant]

I mean

Not suprised when bro stacked everyone at the blue bpx

So rosmi happily ran around and just straight into the finish line

[wispy condor]

its giving 0-1 high end guide im afraid

[snow juniper]

Thx, I modified it a bit to suit my playstyle but it worked like a charm :)

I think this one was mainly a mental block bc annihilation #3 with the turrets was so disproportionately hard

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0b5gbNTmosg&pp=ygUZYXJrbmlnaHRzIG1vbjN0ciBzaG93Y2FzZQ%3D%3D

IT'S A REDEPLOY!!!

Gosh I'm pulling her I'm pulling her I'm pulling her

24/7 True Damage plus heal

[spark sinew]

24/7 is super exaggerating it

[full terrace]

It's literally 24/7 with Initial SP Relics

[spark sinew]

lol

[glass monolith]

15 seconds to get new rock

[spark sinew]

yeah just get 30 sp relics

[glass monolith]

[full terrace]

Deploy summon > activate skill > wait for duration > deploy summon > activate skill again

[full terrace]

Who said she needs 30 SP?

[full terrace]

Yes and the skill duration itself is 25. So you got 10 free secs to deploy the new rock

[spark sinew]

how many does she need at m3

[full terrace]

15 iirc

🤤🤤🤤

[snow juniper]

I'm still a bit confused; monter just stays alive forever and deals true damage? Idrk how her skill works

[full terrace]

Not that she stays alive forever. She just has 7k HP when S3 is active. If enemy hits her for that amount of damage she still dies (and returns to her initial position).

Her initial Medic form only has 2k HP and thats pretty fragile for hard contents like high diff IS (thats one or two taps).

But I can imagine some creative use with her

For example

You deploy her for 7k HP, gets killed

With Initial SP Relics, quickly redeploy her for 7k HP again on that same tile

So thats perma tanking

With infinite Gravel effect.
Still has to wait for 15 secs rock cooldown but thats not a big deal. Gravel is also 15ish secs cooldown.

🤤

[vivid rain]

She also has 1k hp regen minimum per attack

🤤

[muted egret]

how do you guys progress is5....due to severe skill issue and using wisadel till I can't
feeling a bit stuck at 6 difficulty

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/zahoc

usually getting supp wis
gravel
cantabile

and then trying to get wis e2/ntrk/thorns/Ines/pozy/exia

in most cases if no e2 wis/everyone dies

[wispy condor]

if you have modblocks lying around, getting rosmontis to lv60 and getting her is module might help quite a lot
beyond that, just try to learn solutions for specific stages and use them again when possible. wis'adel + your other starters should handle floor1 fairly easily, in which time you could promote her or gather more units to block depending on your voucher luck

[azure roost]

wat stage

[tidal sedge]

Are you failing the same stage again and again? At that difficulty Wis with some relics and other Ops are enough to win.

[wispy condor]

knowing which stages youre losing life points/entire runs on would help a lot

[muted egret]

enemies run past ops, in first stages frequently

[tidal sedge]

Or just getting shitty luck

[wispy condor]

so its floor1 issues

[muted egret]

wis with 2nd skill has no dmg

[muted egret]

part of the problem

if I don't get wis e2 leaks constantly

[tidal sedge]

Have you been developing your skill tree

[muted egret]

skill what

[tidal sedge]

Sorry, that's just not true

[muted egret]

spending plans?

[tidal sedge]

Oh dear

[delicate flare]

[muted egret]

[wispy condor]

its in 'historical reconstruction' from the main is5 screen

[tidal sedge]

Someone send ss my game is slow

[full terrace]

Developing skill issue is all I heard 😏

[wispy condor]

yeah start working on that

[muted egret]

well

[wispy condor]

it should make higher difficulties a lot easier

[muted egret]

it seems like I was doing challenge runs or smth

[wispy condor]

indeed you were

prioritize atk/hp buffs is my suggestion. more dps is always good, hp helps for tanking everything

[tidal sedge]

Also

[muted egret]

skill issue as expected

[tidal sedge]

If you're leaking then just use Gummy/Wis/Click squad instead

[muted egret]

do I need to e2

them

[tidal sedge]

No

[muted egret]

even if I borrow all 3, do I need to upgrade them during the run

click and gummy

[tidal sedge]

E1 Max is fine, or just borrow

[wispy condor]

click and gummy are just there to last you while you recruit stronger ops

[tidal sedge]

It's a waste of hope to upgrade your 4* in IS, except Ethan

[wispy condor]

if you end up having the hope to promote them later without affecting your drafting plans, then thats good, but its very low priority

[muted egret]

alr

what's my priority in getting new Arknights

[tidal sedge]

Whatever do you mean?

[delicate flare]

offrating wishadele

[full terrace]

You better not cope that trust me

[muted egret]

and then

[muted egret]

?

[tidal sedge]

Don't try to get Wis as an off rate in a limited banner

[wispy condor]

if you want a general idea whenever youre faced with more vouchers, just ask yourself:
what is your squad missing/needing more of? would this voucher selection patch that issue? would spending hope now screw you over for a different draft later?

[muted egret]

???

[tidal sedge]

The probability is ridiculously low, you might just get skilled instead by then.

[muted egret]

still no idea

"try to get own wisadel?"

[tidal sedge]

Yeah don't.

[wispy condor]

what are you all yapping about

[muted egret]

idk

who are these

[tidal sedge]

I haven't slept 🥹

[muted egret]

squads

[sterile delta]

new starting squads, interesting to play with but blueprint is just too busted

[wispy condor]

its good to set longterm plans of which operators you Need to have drafted by certain floors/bosses, but it often works to just respond reactively to which vouchers you end up getting

[muted egret]

well wisadel first is a no brainer

I mean, what's after

[wispy condor]

erudite/soul escort feel kinda bad to me. improvisation is fun
alas, blueprint remains consistently the best option

[tidal sedge]

Figure that out yourself by playing, it depends on your roster and your run

[sterile delta]

if this is is5 and you're just score farming, wis kinda just solos everything at d10

[tidal sedge]

[muted egret]

idk what all of this mean

I've bought blueprints

[sterile delta]

blueprint squad, the free node refresh one

squads just enable different buffs in a run

[muted egret]

is there anything I should know about

[sterile delta]

max out your impression restoration

[muted egret]

in process

[sterile delta]

invest ingots if you can

[tidal sedge]

Invest in Cannot's shop.

[sterile delta]

and max out historica reconstruction obv but you already know that

[muted egret]

Of course

[sterile delta]

other than that you just play the game normally

[wispy condor]

then youre set just keep doing runs, learn what works and what doesnt

[sterile delta]

blueprint doodle wis makes d10 braindead if you just want the rewards, otherwise id avoid playing that if you actually wanna learn how to play

[muted egret]

Im using wisadel

[wicked minnow]

what does your impression restoration look like?

[wispy condor]

talon runs are more fun anyway

[muted egret]

idk brain icon?

[sterile delta]

they also take like a billion years

[muted egret]

talon?

hope talon?

[wispy condor]

impression restoration almost done

[sterile delta]

floor 1 has a common encounter that provides either doodle of hope or talon

[muted egret]

it was suggested by someone else when I was skipping all that

[sterile delta]

speedrunning takes doodle and refreshes every node into an encounter with blueprint
otherwise you take talon, refresh every node into an emergency stage, and throw hands as much as possible

[muted egret]

got it

Bassline>gummy?

[sterile delta]

in IS? or normally

[muted egret]

is

[sterile delta]

in IS, no
outside yea

not good hope usage

unless you're swimming in hope i guess

normal start is wis/gummy/click anyways

[muted egret]

every node?

isn't that a bit too random

[sterile delta]

not really

talon makes it so emergency nodes are more likely to be refreshed into

doodle makes emergency nodes impossible to be refreshed into

if you're unlucky you could get a node that you dont want but that doesnt happen often

[wispy condor]

emergency nodes guarantee vouchers/relics on completion so you tend to end your runs stronger on talon. requires a lot more effort tho

[muted egret]

is sniper/vang/specialist bad start?

[sterile delta]

bad

you have no way of killing spines

[muted egret]

been trying that for way too long

[wispy condor]

not at all imo. wis'adel/tinman/beanstalk feels consistent to me, and getting plans early doesnt feel like a huge priority

[sterile delta]

for reference im not the most efficient player ever but a d15 doodle run takes ~20-25 min while a talon run takes ~1.5 hours

[wispy condor]

will say gummy/click start is probably better for most situations though

i can usually crank out talon runs in ~45mins but doodle runs are still much faster

[muted egret]

why though

[sterile delta]

the issue is that wis/tin is really inconsistent to draft at d15 but they're not there yet

because with doodle you are avoiding every fight possible

with talon you're taking all fights possible

[muted egret]

avoiding?

[wispy condor]

you spend most of your doodle run just traversing regular encounters. little time spent on battles

[sterile delta]

fights take much longer

[muted egret]

alr

[sterile delta]

doodle refreshes every combat node into an encounter

[full terrace]

Wis/Tin/Bean can kill Spines up until d12/d13. Above that, they cant.

[sterile delta]

that too

[muted egret]

what's above

[sterile delta]

theres also the issue that wis/tin start requires the +2 hope start

[wispy condor]

d(x) refers to difficulty. you were mentioning struggling to get past d6

[full terrace]

For a d15 run I usually just focus on getting Encs on F1 for Doodle/Talon and Shrivels, then look for Wis upgrade voucher at RT by the end of F1.

That way I start for real at F2.

[muted egret]

yeah

I mean

what's max d

[sterile delta]

d15 for now, d18 later

d13 increases 5 star hope cost by 1, d15 increases 6 star hope cost by 1

since you start with 6 hope, at d15 wis costs 7 hope and tinman costs 1 hope so you need the kettle to get wis alone and +2 hope to get both

[muted egret]

does that battle pass thing get new rewards?

each month

damn

cool

what's your level there if you're on d15

[lofty stag]

Like how many points you get at d15?

[muted egret]

that too

how long does it take to get all rewards

[wispy condor]

you gain battle pass levels faster by completing runs at higher difficulties. point multiplier caps at 150% at d10

technically means anything higher than d10 is just for fun

[tidal sedge]

"Fun"

[muted egret]

[wispy condor]

is5 d15, fun for the whole family

[lofty stag]

No, UNO is fun for the whole family

[tidal sedge]

Basically justt play on D10, no need to go higher unless you feel like it

[muted egret]

alright

does wisadel carry all is

[tidal sedge]

Ed 5 d18 would be the real fun

[wispy condor]

d10 is also the level you need to complete for is5 trimmed medal, if medal sets are your draw

[wispy condor]

pretty much. if schwarz could eat up is2 back in the day i dont imagine wis'adel performing any worse now

[muted egret]

swartz?

[tidal sedge]

Is IS 5 the first IS you are playing?

[lofty stag]

Shwarz

[wispy condor]

6star heavyshooter sniper

[muted egret]

is she almost the same as pozy

[tidal sedge]

She's worse than her but yeah

[lofty stag]

Well, you could say she was the first pozy

[wispy condor]

pozy has a lot better utility

[muted egret]

gonna m3 silver ash, pozy

or should I rush rosmo+mod

[full terrace]

Oh ya speaking of Wisadel, I feel like her and Ulpi S3 have a very high odds on landing on enemies with dodge. The Stultifera Navis fish for example, try throwing your Ulpi S3 at them, I have never seen it miss.

[wispy condor]

your choice between silverash and rosmo i think. pozy is fun and strong but requires a shitton more effort than using wis'adel

[muted egret]

what

[muted egret]

what fish

[wispy condor]

idk, i think this is just confirmation bias for their high dph killing the things it Does hit instantly. other ops need to chip them down multiple times, so the dodge feels a lot more annoying

[wispy condor]

unauthorized beast

[full terrace]

It's not about that. Go try using Ulpi S3 on those fish, or any other dodgy enemies really.

[muted egret]

I never used ulpi

[full terrace]

If you catch him missing, lemme know

[muted egret]

letting you know

[wispy condor]

wait, isnt that because ulpipi s3 stuns them? cc effects apply first, nethersea predators lose their dodge while stunned

[full terrace]

Now that makes sense

[wispy condor]

made the same observation for marcille s2 during an is3 run a bit ago

[full terrace]

Yah that makes sense

Wis S3 also has the stun effects sometimes

[wispy condor]

wis gets stun on autos, very comfy for this

[full terrace]

So if cc lands first before damage then that makes perfect sense

I didnt know about cc effects being applied first before damage, I just knew Ulpi and Wis S3 almost never miss. This was extremely useful for stages with Deathveil Assassins my alt did just a few days ago.

Coz when I first did it on my main account, Wis and Ulpi werent there yet.

[wispy condor]

yes, all cc effects apply before damage iirc. very useful for talents that give cc-dependent damage bonuses, like hoederer/qiubai

all the more silly ho'olheyak manages to have such underwhelming dps while always benefitting from it on s3

[verbal sparrow]

did vina just get powercrept by mon3tr s3?

what's the point of vina now

[remote perch]

Vina never had a point

[full terrace]

Brutal

Honest

Brutally honest

[full terrace]

Vina S3 deals more total damage, but her cycle sucks

Mon3tr has great cycle and she has the redeploy mechanic like Ulpi, thats broken in IS

[verbal sparrow]

mon3tr has offensive recovery

so how long does it to charge up s3?

[full terrace]

Mon3tr has a summon, and her summon decays over time. When you deploy her summon, Mon3tr will always have a target for healing, and that 15 SP Cost Offensive Recovery will end up faster than most Auto Recovery skills.

[zinc flume]

~35s approximately

[next wigeon]

No problem

[full terrace]

In IS with Initial SP Relics, 15 SP Cost is easily filled. Since she redeploys herself like Ulpi, the Initial SP Relics will trigger everytime she does so. With a skill Duration of 25 secs and a summon cooldown of 15 secs, she ended up doing True Damage 24/7

And I find that to be super awesome

[wispy condor]

this looks so fun

[elder flume]

I have doubts about every cc being applied before damage

Theres definitely some that applies the opposite or atleast used to

[full terrace]

Really? Such as?

Genuine question btw

[elder flume]

My brain capacity isnt enough to remember that far

Its usually a Meow thing

[full terrace]

Oh~ you remember pussy only huh

[elder flume]

You'll see Meow's writing in mechanics sheet

[spark sinew]

ines doesn't

[elder flume]

Idk if it covers all anomalies

[spark sinew]

for example

unless I'm massively misremembering

[full terrace]

Interesting

[elder flume]

Hm

[full terrace]

Very interesting

I'll keep that in mind

[spark sinew]

now that's cursed

[full terrace]

Also 2020

Rain is old

[spark sinew]

i thought you were better than this

only used suzu3

[elder flume]

Im a day 1 player

Quit when i failed to get Weedy

I have Ines so i'll test her eventually

New CN engine is gona be quite a lot to test

[full terrace]

I think what Hauck said is true tho

Ines is part of my core team I kinda know her by heart

For some reason I kinda get the 0.xx secs lag when Ines first does her bind

[spark sinew]

i thought it was about those?

she can miss

I'll be honest i wouldn't notice 0.xx second lag on bind

[elder flume]

Nian silence is truly one of the worst ngl

Applying after damage is extremely annoying

[elder flume]

And only stun n freeze removes dodge right
Havent fought them in a while

[spark sinew]

hmm

i thought bind worked but it's been awhile

[full terrace]

Could it be something to do with the attack animation?

[elder flume]

for who

[full terrace]

Nian?

Now that I slow motion it, it appears that her bind and damage happen simultaneously, but the enemy's movement animation isnt stopped right away the moment the bind applies, maybe thats why I felt the 0.xx secs lag because I felt like they are still "moving" after the bind.

[elder flume]

i dont believe aspd mattering

its just how the sequences are coded

also tested bind removing dodge yea

[full terrace]

I see

[civic bear]

It all happens same frame

It just

The order in code

Can call it subtick or whatever

[acoustic slate]

I’m not gonna backread too much ngl 🥹

[lofty stag]

just wait for someone to tldr

[acoustic slate]

But Ines 100% applies bind after damage

[lofty stag]

nvm you are the tldr

[acoustic slate]

She will smack a nethersea predator for days before getting the bind which then cancels his dodge

And her talent says “when first damaging, etc etc”

[full terrace]

I forgot how annoying this stage was

My alt had it easy with all the dps, but still annoying

[full terrace]

Bind removes dodge? Interesting

But it makes sense

[elder flume]

im hit by 1 min support refresh kekw

[full terrace]

If something is caught in the trap, it cant dodge you 😂

[full terrace]

Who are you trying to borrow

[cinder pike]

did anything change with the new engine?

[elder flume]

i dont play CN

any testing from me will have to wait until it enters EN

[scarlet mortar]

bind doesn't remove most dodge, only the predators' from SN

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_idfiXyvtK0&pp=ygUTYXJrbmlnaHRzIG1vbjN0ciBzMg%3D%3D

227 what?

[civic bear]

someone fkd up ig xdd

[pearl breach]

Whaaarr..
What happened?

[full terrace]

The devs messed up happened

[dark mantle]

mon3tr can stop time
it's a old bug from chapter 14

[severe kiln]

mon3tr gain a stand

[pearl breach]

Mon3tr is secretly a time controller

[elder flume]

atleast 2 was real

[tiny moat]

hello @willow sun . sorry for mention, but now i cleared special stages 01-08. heres the images

now what do i do for the kernel stages? do you have a suggestion video for me to replicate? thank you

[willow sun]

i mean there’s only like 4 hours left in the event

just bring all of your 6* ops and you should clear every stage first try

1-6 are easy asf, 7 just use FRD like yat2 s2 or sexas s2 to break the VTE before the weeb picks it up or just kill him with like 5 dps units, 8 just kill rosmo until her third phase as fast as possible then throw bodies at her until she dies (or use CE/Amiua true damage since she only has 65k hp but 90% DR)

i only did challenge clears this event

ik VEC5 ulpianus can solo with 4 buffs

VEC7 ela and wisadel can duo with 0 buffs

VEC8 ulpianus and logos can duo with 5 buffs

[tiny moat]

are all these the vector stages?

[tidal sedge]

Yes

The ones you asked about.

There are 8 in total

[tiny moat]

splendid. thank you

[celest kayak]

I'm here @teal moon

[teal moon]

I put mine there and she could kill the spider before they reached her. When you finish clearing the spider activate the skill and use the mines on the big guy

it's pretty easy

[celest kayak]

S3?

[teal moon]

yes, skill 3

so you can also use the fragile effect