strategy

[karmic glade]

if you want to have fun in dailies, you might want to play niche knight, rather than pretending that sui team is good

[sly drift]

Dude was like "Sui team just doesn't work" and then proceed to mention the top of meta unga bunga for comparison

[cyan gorge]

By that logic, all niches “don’t work” when compared to that line up

[karmic glade]

because niche knight player does not pretend that their niche are the best solution for a stage, but a lot of player that uses sui team seems to have the understanding that sui team is somehow good, and not just "use because you want to use"

[cyan gorge]

I legitimately think birds are good for a niche most of the time

[foggy grove]

sui need that buff from trials of navigator

next sui will have it,trust

[scarlet mortar]

i think more people bring the sui exodia to buff the rest than unironically use them alone

the exodia buff is basically ptilo in 2024, qol that's nice to have when the rest of your squad probs shits on the stage anw

[spark sinew]

exodia is fine when you consider that you're not gonna deploy all 12 of your ops anyway

i mean obviously if you have 10 slots empty you can bring it

the discussion was about you using all 12 slots already and slotting in AH

[foggy grove]

exodia is fine when we have stuff like walter soloing things

like she is summoner

[spark sinew]

skalter mountain and surtr think they're on the team?

[civic bear]

I brought shu team all the time

It covers everything well

I brought ling instead because the current cn meta doesn't actually have that much pure body fodder

Walter mlynar 2frd 4suis 1vg
3 flexible slot.

Usually brought 3rd defender

Or 3rd guard

Alrdy stops using skalter cuz sui buff does it anyway

[green turret]

i need help with 7-18 everything i try fails

[ornate loom]

best team for s3?

[civic bear]

Wat where exactly u struggling at. Did u manage to kill boss phase 1 atleast?

[green turret]

yh but i kill him too close to my ops and they then die to his regenration phase then the enemies from the sky get through

[civic bear]

You used the mines right?

Show team too

Theres 2 general strategy
1 is to kill the boss just before it reaches a checkpoint (3 tiles to the right of bottom left blue box is his final checkpoint, he stops in 4 other checkpoint before this). Granted this means ur ranged unit would get hit by the aoe aura. And then have ur carry kill it while it's standing still on the final checkpoint for a little while.
For the mobs You can just camp bottom left (there's no mobs that go towards upper blue box , only patriot)
2nd strategy is to burst boss as soon as possible but don't kill the final wave 1 mobs (18th mobs) so that you abuse killgate and be able to kill boss phase 2 with minimal effort vs the mobs

[green turret]

my characters

[civic bear]

Oh u got mlynar bro. Ur team strong as f

Just camp specter lappland defender click medic on bottom left

Mlynar with a medic above the middle altar facing down .
Preplace mines on boss checkpoints
Click mlynar s3 when full and kills boss phase 1 and 2 easy

[green turret]

thx, i still left the boss through but at least i did the lvl

ill come back to it once im better at the game lol

[wintry hinge]

Will this strat work?

[woven scaffold]

i don't see why it wouldn't, tho you might want to get a dedicated anti-air alongside typhon

[wintry hinge]

To the seeds?

[woven scaffold]

for they flying towers that starting show up later (are those called seeds?)

[wintry hinge]

Okay
the collectors
Are there any missiles?

[cosmic thicket]

do you have an answer to the devourers

[smoky laurel]

https://youtu.be/LOMS4eu9dN0
what would be a good replacement for ifrit?

[woven scaffold]

there really isn't a good replacement for her

corroserum i guess? but even taht is prolly a strech

[smoky laurel]

what about W

might not be arts damage but

[cosmic thicket]

the replacement is bringing multiple operators/pressing buttons 😱

[woven scaffold]

if it's just for range, then probably

[cosmic thicket]

fia S3 is the closest 1:1 i think

[woven scaffold]

i dont remember, probably?

[wintry hinge]

Texalter + Yalter

[woven scaffold]

that should clean enough of them

afterwards just leak 9 and you solid

[steep kayak]

Should i just fully invest in factories for xp ? With like one trading post?

I just dont rlly see any value in trading posts unless im mistaken ?

[somber falcon]

For measurements, you'd need around 600k to e2 a 6*

[spark sinew]

you don't want to farm supply stages

so you want to have both exp and lmd

[somber falcon]

Most you get from stage is what, 7k?

[spark sinew]

even though technically producing exp is more efficient (not really)

[deft badger]

hi hauck 😄

[narrow patrol]

Well that was brutal

Yes, Mlynar and Beagle were bait

Tho I had Mlynar pop his skill to deal with any enraged possessed melee soldiers that came out the middle spawn

[deft badger]

where degen... is what i wanna know

[narrow patrol]

She’s not out yet

[steep kayak]

So whats the optimal trading to factory ratio

[smoky halo]

2 trading post
5 fac

[steep kayak]

I have this rn

O so get rid of a power plant?

[smoky halo]

yes

[steep kayak]

And two factories would make gold then im assuming

[smoky halo]

2 fac does gold

2 does exp

last one is flexible

[steep kayak]

Ok cool 😼 ty !

[thick cradle]

The civilians keep walking past operators in their path. what the fuck ?

[merry narwhal]

There are some dudes in the corners who make them unblockable. They have low HP so kill them asap

[remote perch]

You can also just block them

[glass monolith]

"Civilians are unblockable now lmao" dudes don't provide that shit while blocked

[dapper hedge]

NGL it's kinda weird how many people failed in that stage when those dudes were also in 12-15

[summer copper]

I did this
so ye definitely it will work

[vivid rain]

Decaying waste is like one of the easiest anni so far anyway even mumu + dorothy can clear it

[ocean ether]

Everyone let the trees born, meanwhile me and my OCD decides that not a single tree shall survive

having so much DPS I had to retreat mudrock and ifrit for thorns to build skill LOL, and still couldn't because typhon killing them all

[summer copper]

yalter can make it to only 2 trees alive

afterward is just easy kill

[ocean ether]

you saying as if I have yalter, a collab limited released before I even joined

[summer copper]

that's sad

her s3 attack range is woo

[ocean ether]

maybe we get another collab when wilds is out and I can redeem myself

[summer copper]

I hope

[neat skiff]

Lin is amazing at tree killing.

[glass monolith]

I would have killed trees with Lin.... IF I BROUGHT FUCKING MEDICS ON MY BLIND RUN

oh no wait i brought medics but i placed them in way which make it impossible to spawn kill trees before 400/400

[ocean ether]

just bring virtuosa and S3 them to oblivion SMH

[glass monolith]

I would... If HG start adding e1 chips to fucking on banner characters to shop

[neat skiff]

They're in the cash shop.

[ocean ether]

Theres 2 of them purchasable monthly, one chip set gives you enough chips to E2 a 6 star from E0

if its 5 or 4 star, there will be excess chips

every banner has a trainning pack for the 6 stars on it, which provides enough chips (no need for chip catalyst) to E2 said 6 star + some skill books to get M3

[glass monolith]

Because political reasons Google play banned google pay in my country so i can't physically buy via goolge bullshit anything

[neat skiff]

Event shops have the chips for their welfare.

Wait, derp. you're talking the "promote to E2L1" pack.

[ocean ether]

I cant remember how many skill books it gives, I think 40?

I see limited pack, I buy anyways

[marsh sapphire]

Groaning st yet another CC season

[glass monolith]

FINALLY, 2 WEEKS OF AP-5

[peak cloak]

dead weeks

hurray

[glass monolith]

Virtuosa to build, to build, Uh.... Will figure someone else to build in progress

[ocean ether]

not going to save for the upcoming hellish 6 months? (and most probably more than 6)

[glass monolith]

Save what? I have 90 e2 and i still question why Aciddrop was my second E2.

My pull goals are Ela, Ash, 5*s on them, then cry in corner because i will be on like 0 pulls

[neat skiff]

This but completely unironically.

[glass monolith]

I wasn't ironical. I think

Still need to buy out operator pots and we have new shit in just 5-6 months so i am f-d

[flint apex]

hey guys do yall think i could replace perfumer with an e2 lvl 70 skalter with s2m3 as an aoe medic? or will the regen not be enuf?

[glass monolith]

depends where you need that much copium of regen

[neat skiff]

Depends entirely on tile layout. skalter needs ops in her range, Perfumer don't give a shit.

[foggy grove]

skalter hps is lower than any aoe medic

so depends

[glass monolith]

(Cough H12-4 with Gladiia Silence Alter and Perfumer regens stacked with S2 Silence Alter to counter boss global skill)

[foggy grove]

on the other hand she gives def to mitigate some phys dmg

tho don't expect skalter for real healing

[neat skiff]

Isn't Skalter def less than what Shining gives?

Oh no, it is more.

158 def.

[flint apex]

ahh alright was hoping to use her in annihilation but maybe i need to pair it with another medic to work

am watching guides and figuring out anni 5 n 7

[neat skiff]

5 - frozen abandoned city
7 - flooded seashore
Yeah, passive regen won't help much unless you have good dps so enemies can't damage your ops anyway.

[flint apex]

anni 5 seems tough may need to build jaye for it ;-;

[ocean ether]

pretty sure thats another "just borrow typhon" map

and building jaye to E1 is perm account damage if you care about base combos

[glass monolith]

Passive regen helps me to heal operators outside medics range because I carefully calculated incoming damage from enemies on that side my incompetence when it comes to placement

[ocean ether]

just use enmity smh, then global passive regen can just be the strategy

[glass monolith]

My AP-5 is LaPluma, LOUD ( alter), Phantom

[mild bone]

Any advice for S-10? I'm having quite a difficult time with it

[glass monolith]

Boss dies when killed second time. Boss phase 1 apply annoying DoT will will infinite scale to your death / damaging of boss enough to drop it. Phase 2 lose stupid DoT but now has stupid boosted double hit attack in melee-ish range

[royal delta]

Phase 1 he's fairly tankable and you can burst him down - you kind of need to burst him down, because otherwise his dot will ramp and kill your ops.

Phase 2 he stops doing the dot and just starts oneshotting anyone nearby. Also he has an aura around him that slows people, so even mlynar sutur etc won't do as much damage as they should. But, he loses stun immunity. Texalter is obviously a good way to slow him, but also really effective is typhon

[solar sage]

Hmm not bad I think I like the effect of the default mod on this.

Support, slow, and heal

[glass monolith]

I think people use characters who can switch between healing and slowing rarely but like... It is Arknights, if it works it is legit way to achieve your goal
And her skill 2 is one of 2 silence skills players have from 4*, second is Jaye with drawback of consuming your DP income while deployed. 5* option is Lapland everyone recommend from 5* voucher who gets 100% uptime on silence passively as long as she attacks target on second promotion

[solar sage]

I need a character that can detect units that are stealthy

Or invisible

[glass monolith]

Most of early game invisible units are deploy something on top of them or wait for them to walk into your frontline

[solar sage]

Alright

[glass monolith]

also there will be reveal stuff in range for limited time towers in like chapter 2 or so

Later options - Sniper Totter 4* who can attack invisible units (But prioritize heaviest targets which often opposite of stealth enemies). Guard silverash who in second promotion reveal enemies in his range. Vanguard Ines who drops dagger which reveal in her range even after she retreat (don't know at which promotion she gains it)

[wide sail]

i assume sa ines are e2 but i forgor scene and totter

[glass monolith]

CC shop closed lmao I forgot about Scene too

[wide sail]

tsukinogi e0 broken

[glass monolith]

1 in 1000 stars align Horn S1 used to reveal enemy

[wide sail]

true

[void terrace]

Good ol' silverash time

[solar sage]

Idk probably off topic; The skill required for this game is actually pretty crazy, I’m throughly satisfied whenever I get my character placement and timing down just right in order to win a tough match flawlessly

There’s times I just wanna quit but eventually I get the placements and characters correct and it just opens things up

For instance chip stages

[sterile delta]

dont worry once you have a developed roster you just start blasting through almost every stage

[solar sage]

This is my flawless placement for Caster and Sniper chips

[vital arrow]

Honestly your problem is just

Not using marksmen

Theyre supposed to stand on the special tiles so they can wipe the drones

[narrow patrol]

Ines gains stealth detection at e2. Both herself and the sentry she leaves detects stealth

[astral pilot]

Does it deal elemental damage? It doesn't tell

[narrow patrol]

Her stealth detection range also increases when S2 is active…….. same with SilverAsh S3

[foggy grove]

it doesn't

[astral pilot]

Thabks

[foggy grove]

can't tell what doesn't exist
ele dmg only starts appearing at chap 9

[solar sage]

Tried that. Sniper Operators can at times become too preoccupied hitting the ground units.

Keeping a couple back so they can focus on drones was best.

Also running 2 aoe snipers was a great choice

[vital arrow]

The marksmen should be on the special tiles

Casters flanking the blockers

Since they just do high def enemy and drones

[foggy grove]

marksman sniper prio drone

[vital arrow]

Marksmen always target drones first

[solar sage]

Ah

I just pulled April

[vital arrow]

Even kroos is enough

And jessica

[solar sage]

I’m outta sanity atm

[meager merlin]

Planning on getting Regular W during her Alter's banner

Which of her modules is better? The ignore 100def one? Or the increase atk against blocked enemies one

I definitely prefer using her landmine skill if that's a deciding factor

[weak gazelle]

pick ignore def one

[scarlet mortar]

def ignore, nowadays def is a real stat so you want more atk on her than the dmg amp

the amp applies after def calcs so it kinda fell off ngl

you only really want that other mod when there's a bunch of critters to feed her SP, e.g. the ch10 seeds in stages like 12-17

[civic bear]

I beg to differ

100 def ignore is flat 100 dmg

She doesn't have that much hit and more nuke type

Amp + sp easily wins

Granted you want to block

[hearty sphinx]

who should i borrow

[civic bear]

dont even need to technically
but penance s3 is good as she can solo the mobs so you just need to burst the boss with the remaining

[vital arrow]

Surtr and mines can handle it

Or if you want easy mode just borrow mlynar

[dense delta]

any strat idea to finish this IS? My brain is not braining anymore

[vital arrow]

Borrow

Have you cleared the other two

[dense delta]

yea, only the last one

[vital arrow]

Because clearing with E1 sounds painful

Which last one

[dense delta]

I mean, there's three layers right?
After every shop thingy

[vital arrow]

No theres 5 floors

[dense delta]

[vital arrow]

So you havent cleared the other two IS

[dense delta]

yea, that must be it

[vital arrow]

I dont get what youre talking about

IS2 is phantom
IS3 is mizuki
IS4 is expeditioner

If you havent cleared any of them then thats normal because your roster is very underdeveloped

If you want to clear then borrow an E2 support

You'll still suffer

But you'll suffer bit less

[dense delta]

kinda bad in english sorry 'bout that.
ohhhh i see, thats why im confused when you said "two IS"

[dense delta]

Sure thanks

This is my first IS so...

[vital arrow]

You'll suffer a lot longer then

[dense delta]

[narrow patrol]

F

Even with a few e2’s I can’t clear floor 3… then again I keep getting specialist/supporter tickets……. Pain

[dense delta]

same but i always get snipers and caster in my case, i feel bad on my 1 melee op

[fading wagon]

yo can anyone tell me if it's possible for me to clear is3 with my current units? to make it less cluttered, i will give you my krooster here

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/JOAQIM20

[foggy grove]

texas borrow should carry you on low d

[vital arrow]

Its honestly just a borrow texalt move

Should be pretty fine on D3 and below

[viscid raft]

is the event coming up gonna be those hardcore stages

[drowsy jewel]

CC? yeah they're pretty hard

[glass monolith]

INVISIBLE FUCKING DRONE SPAWNER

WHILE MAP ON FIRE

[viscid raft]

Well that sucks

[glass monolith]

Next event summary is
"Pick your poison for reward,
need to mix poisons for special reward,
need to taste each poison at least once for bonus shop currency"

If it follows POO logic

I know it has POO risk select, i just don't know if event currency gain works the same

Trim medal is overdose on poison mixing

[scarlet mortar]

it's not the def ignore but the extra atk

she gets killstealed most of the time anw

if she isn't then concernge what is the rest of the squad doing

[glass monolith]

Good luck to people who will go max risking, cuz lmao 270,000 HP chapter 11 Maw

[scarlet mortar]

you also gain more from her range by not having to wait until mobs walk into blockers

[viscid raft]

Sounds like hell

[glass monolith]

It is somewhat challenging event with 0 ingame sanity cost and ALL real life sanity cost for end game bois. Extra fun doing it blind guideless.

[ocean ether]

fun? you mean suffering

[glass monolith]

Don't you love hitting brick wall with your head till body shaped hole form only to find out it was wrong wall or there is steel multiplated armor on other side

Like me building Rope instead Cliff for CC12 because i didn't knew WHY people were building Cliff only to say nah i did win and R18w1 anyway. And then score r25w1 with assist of some discord strategies (Yes i fucked up placements by 1 tile, again)

[peak cloak]

fun? you mean suffering

[ocean ether]

there is suffering, and then there is self-torture

[glass monolith]

I know difference, that's why i scored r18w1 on CC10 and bailed

[fiery solstice]

chat, im a little confused, what exactly make qiubai good

is it a talent a skill i should invest in or

[vital arrow]

Huh?

Shes just

Good

Good damage, if not unreliable

[glass monolith]

Her S3 does arts damage which always does damage, just less if enemy has high res. compared to dealing 5% of ATK if enemy has too much def for you. Attack speed. Target 3. Extra damage if target bind or slowed with her having chance to bind. Great combo with Suzu S3 (guarantee slow extra damage and multiplied cuz fragile). Module will make her do even more damage

Tl dr. S3 is awesome "nuke shit in that general direction" button

[vital arrow]

Eh shes a bit unreliable on her own

She has good damage ceiling

But 20% bind chance is cringe

[glass monolith]

(Pulls out S2M3 Indigo)

[wide sail]

kid named ethan

[ocean ether]

when you found a perfect typhon + horn merry go round

[heady sphinx]

I mean ethan has a what, 84% chance of bind on S2? and indigo has a 27% bind chance on each attack she deals, with s2 bumping that to 81% per attack. single target binding on indigo is pretty high

[ocean ether]

lol the challenge stage was begging me to do it as well

[spark sinew]

you can't level talents

she's alright but you pretty much need e2 and mastery

[solar sage]

Looking for a 5 star vanguard that would go well alongside Texas

[neat skiff]

If you're leaving them on the field, Zima.

If not planning on leaving them on the field, future welfare Wanqing.

Texas is an offensive vanguard so kind of squishy. Zima is a defensive vanguard who can buff atk and def of other vanguards. Wanqing is the only 5 star VG who can heal.

Wanqing is also a flagbearer like Myrtle/Elysium.

[spark sinew]

mind you the best way is to not use any other vangs at all

solo texas should be enough

[neat skiff]

If they're asking that question then Texas still cannot survive 2 dogs.

[spark sinew]

then the correct answer would be to not deploy texas first

[neat skiff]

Being limited to 5 stars is the hard part.

[spark sinew]

also some new players are under impression that "more stars = better", hence why they asked for 5* vangs only (no 6* ones pulled)

[neat skiff]

3 and 4 star is much easier to work with.

[spark sinew]

if we're talking about 5*, both agents are also good

one of them is way better but ehh

[neat skiff]

The 5 star agents make Texas kind of irrelevant.

[spark sinew]

yeah but they're a better fit than other 5* still i would argue

especially since not like other options "help" texas much

[neat skiff]

Less help and more "make up for glaring 5 star issues".

Nothing quite like a launch op really paying the offensive/defensive pioneer split.

[spark sinew]

she got the better end of the stick though look at chiave, who isn't launch op either

[neat skiff]

Stun > res shred.

[spice mortar]

Poncirus

Ponc is the definition of a drop and leave there vanguard

I use her a lot :p

[solar sage]

Alrighty I was thinking of the DP recovery and getting as much DP as possible to quickly deploy more expensive characters

Especially ones that are getting E1 and E2 treatment

More I can get the more I can deploy

[spice mortar]

Then just use flagbearers

E1 myrtle

Shabang

[solar sage]

I’m not familiar with Myrtle

[spice mortar]

Quite literally the most used op in the game

Also its a flagbearer you place them down and use sq

S1

[solar sage]

I don’t have that op yet

[spice mortar]

Then wait until you do

Myrtle is a 4*

No point in building a5* you will throw away like trash later

[solar sage]

Ok what specialist is she?

[spice mortar]

Shes a vanguard

[solar sage]

Ok I might pull her from recruitment then 🤷‍♂️

Most likely not but never know

[spice mortar]

This is off the top of my head

But i think thats all myrtle combinations

Anyway its not hard to get now that theres no lmd cost

[solar sage]

I thought 5 star would give a 12 DP where as 3 star gives 6 DP, and 4 star gives 9 DP

So I asked about a 5 star vanguard with DP recovery on the assumption that the ability of the DP recovery would be greater than

[spice mortar]

Well stars dont equal quality

5* usually bad

[glass monolith]

DP generation depending on operators, but there is "almost" no difference between same archetype.
Standard Bearer (community - Flagbearer) - generate alot DP on skill, don't block during skill. Poor fighters. S2/S3 generate less DP and give bonus utility.
Charger - Generate DP per kill. 1 block. Return "original" deploy cost on retreat. With module can return "current" deploy cost.
Pioneer - Generate DP on automatic skill activation with S1. Other skills buff their combat attributes and give less DP.
Agent - DP when attacking during skill. All skills work in their ways.
Tactician - Free pet they can deploy on melee(/ranged for Mumu) tile. Skills has pet do something and some DP as bonus.
Tldr - Throw Fang/Vanilla/Scavenger at stuff early, gain DP, retreat and place costlier ops. Myrtle cheap to invest and can generate alot if you aim to throw those 30 DP cost stuff at game

[spice mortar]

Hauckindu wisdom, praise

[thick cradle]

I use less than 25 ops. everyone else feels mid.

[glass monolith]

I use whatever i feel like, when i feel like, and only thing which can stop me in how few gaming time i have thanks to job

[rough sigil]

Given my sniper roster, would picking up Blue Poison be a worthwhile investment?

[spice mortar]

As in raising her or buying her for certs

[spark sinew]

quite worse than others though

[spark sinew]

[narrow patrol]

Myrtle is easy to guarantee if you got do generator and healing in one group

[vital arrow]

No one uses myrtle s2

[spice mortar]

if we are specifically talking 5* drop and forget vanguard

i feel ponc holds her own

best of the pond

[spark sinew]

drop and forget (after proccing skill twice)

and then she dies/does nothing 🏃‍♂️

[spark sinew]

fairly sure i've seen is3 runs with her

and used her s2 myself as well

although she's def just inferior wanq

[heady sphinx]

wanq is more aoe healing, myrtle is single target healing

[spark sinew]

doesn't he heal around myrtle lvl anyway

except he's multitarget despite that

i vaguely remember that, but

[heady sphinx]

wanq: 128hps all allies around him
myrtle: 260 hps 1 ally around her

[spark sinew]

my myrtle s2m3 wasn't wasted!

[heady sphinx]

also myrtle gets +28hps to all vanguards while shes deployed, not much, but has its niches

[spark sinew]

wanq buffs max hp instead, oof
although the skills are heaven and earth, when compared to myrtle

[spark sinew]

you would beenfit way more from e2ing other stuff (too many snipers already imo)

and bp is not great either way

[azure forge]

BP is worse than kroos alter in most situation...

[sweet marlin]

trying this anni for the first time. does this formation look good?

well i'll discover soon

[worldly stirrup]

Put ethan on the left side

[sweet marlin]

ok first problem i can't push the fire dudes. i'll try with shaw s2 instead

gotta promote and skill lvl 7

[summer copper]

[ashen folio]

Anyone got any ideas for 12-17 adverse? For the record, I play 5☆ knights and this stage is miserable

Throughly convinced that the person who designed the adverse stage is hellspawn

[glass monolith]

You can use that stage as trial before CC1 i guess

[ashen folio]

[sweet marlin]

ok so far good but i don't think this will end well

[spice mortar]

There is norway thorns lives

Unless that typhon just kills

[peak cloak]

350+ is aoe check

thorns and Typhon will not be enough

[peak cloak]

<@&586570970345635868> ban this spam bot

[ocean ether]

what did I miss lol

[peak cloak]

nothing, i'm selling soda in Ursus atm, wanna join?

[ocean ether]

I am all the way in lungmen selling popcorn

[scarlet mortar]

break the bottom left box so that operatives don't path towards your ranged ops, marksmen left of blue box facing down, protector defender to tank everything, make sure you bait the last drone which spawns late from the left

sth like that

add dps where necessary

5*s have april to shoot the seed spawners for free, borrow her if you don't have her

[ashen folio]

Oh nah, I have her

Choice of dps is kinda iffy though. I don't have any Besiegers and the spinning things tend to soak the damage up

[scarlet mortar]

they have bloated hp with mid def

marksmen are fine

[civic bear]

greythroat/kroos easily kills them

[scarlet mortar]

tbh worse problem is the casters since there aren't many tiles to prep dps against them

[ashen folio]

I did Heidi +Kroos and that only like 5/6th a single spawner so I'm gonna have to put some dps elsewhere

[civic bear]

300 def 35khp

[scarlet mortar]

oh thought they had more

[ashen folio]

No time or space to even set up Shamare too

[scarlet mortar]

lmao that's low

[civic bear]

wait no 42k hp

adverse buff

[ashen folio]

I'll have to try again and let you know what's up

[civic bear]

greythroat max actually kills them in 1 skill

the problem is the spawn shit tho

[ashen folio]

Thought the adverse buff for 12-17 was just more spawned enemies?

[civic bear]

it waste hit

adverse buff has 20% stat buff inherently

[ashen folio]

Ah, ok

[scarlet mortar]

it's basically CM so

there's always stealth buffs

[civic bear]

im rather surprised kroos doesnt kill it evne with heidi

id assume its because she waste 3 attacks everytime it summons stuff

just deploy a frd right under them

[ashen folio]

My set up has two defenders out so I should be fine without frd

Honestly, it's stages like this that makes me amazed that Silvergun can clear it with 4 4*s

though tbf, beanstalk s1 helped a long way and Blacknight can't do that

[civic bear]

p sure 5* can trio it

[ashen folio]

I mean, if I have to guess. A fair amount of her dps comes from being able to stun the enemy

[foggy grove]

no?

it's just backloaded

if you are using heidi,use it on the latter half part of her skill

[ashen folio]

Just barely managed to beat it

[candid beacon]

uh

How do I deal with Damazti drones in H12-4

mfw I lost on 69/74

💔💔💔

[cyan gorge]

Just outheal them

or bring Reedic s3 like me

[candid beacon]

that could work

my plan was to like try to kill the drone so Eyjalter could heal Spalter which is kinda stalling damazti alongside Irene for dps

[cyan gorge]

I had Quercus, Ptilopsis and Saria for healing mostly

[glass monolith]

Quercus, Ptilo, Nearl... Entire fucking AH gang for me
And after Silence alter i did this for lulz #strategy message

[vernal lion]

@jovial nest

bro, I did this like a puzzle

funny double Mlynar rdp time

[glass monolith]

I tried to do no 6* blind... Then i seen wave 2... Then i brought Suzu Mlynar Surtr Texas....

[vernal lion]

tbh I only hate that fucking revival skill

like you can only kill the mob outside of the red circle

[glass monolith]

When boss enters
Phase 1 revive
Phase 2
GOING TO FUCKING DIFFERENT BOXES EACH

[vernal lion]

anyway, reworked CC#1

[glass monolith]

Most fucking important question: Are there maintanence?

[dapper hedge]

10 mins before cc start iirc

[glass monolith]

Woooooo, can farm chips as soon as daily hits

[vocal leaf]

i challenge you to clear it again but using only male operators this time

[vernal lion]

ask me again when I have male only built

[glass monolith]

Ask him when Ulp

[vocal leaf]

i see mylnar there, that’s a start

[glass monolith]

Mlynar is Gravel for lazy people

[ocean ether]

ulp without his cheerleader group wouldn't be very good

[glass monolith]

We will cook

[ocean ether]

considering ulp event has alot of burn damage going on, we going to be getting roasted squid for awhile

[sweet marlin]

it worked yay

[glass monolith]

I assume it didn't end well with 10.5 hours between messages

[sweet marlin]

actually i failed and went to sleep and tried again today

[spice mortar]

Called it

[sweet marlin]

the main problem was timing the frd so the fire dudes didn't kill my right side (they needed 2 damn shaw s2 pushes). in the pic i shared virtuosa was dead but she should have been next to typhon to deal with the main wave with s3

so in the end it was barely enough dmg to kill them all before they touch thorns

[glass monolith]

I love those spear dudes

"We do extra damage while we have stacks"
Bait stacks away
"We still do shit ton of damage and your DEF skill runs out"

[jagged gale]

Heyyy any strategy/operator choice advice for 10-17 standard?

[vivid rain]

kaltsit can ignore manfred dodge with her S3

the rest of the map can be cleared with mudrock prob

also why arent you playing the stage on adverse?

[ocean ether]

not everyone wants to or can do adverse right off the bat

[vivid rain]

i mean adverse is easier imo but that might just be me

[glass monolith]

Adverse of 10-17 is weird. Normal enemies are more dungerous. But at same time at least boss F off into parallel universe instead walking in middle of 30 slimes and 5 leeches
Issue. Need to do 10-11 AE to do 10-17 AE

[peak cloak]

6h left until ccb#1

lets copy paste that csgo gaben prayer

[spark sinew]

got any clears to copy?

[jagged gale]

Idk i can’t even clear it on standard 😭

I’ve been trying kaltsit and mudrock but they keep dying

Mostly from the cannons

[worldly stirrup]

Try penance

[peak cloak]

me? nah, making my own strats xd.

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-chemistry-experiment-scientific-walter-white-gif-17820266

[vivid rain]

based, im going the same

[glass monolith]

BITCH I NEED TO WAIT FOR CC TO OPEN TO HAVE AP-5

[spark sinew]

just farm skill books

[peak cloak]

why bro doesnt let me cook, sadge

[glass monolith]

I have 1500 white skill books. i don't care i barely mastery shit anyway

Schwarz e2 done. 50% of goals for this CC is done

[spark sinew]

what not raising units does to people

[glass monolith]

I reached the point when I have entire page of e2 snipers

And one day will build Platinum, Blue Poison, Insider, Melanite, Jieyun

[spark sinew]

cursed

modless rosa1, ros
greyy raised for base? wtf

[glass monolith]

greyy alter raised for "alter character" rewards back when we couldn't run alter and original at once

[proud dune]

Oookay, any suggestions for the last H8 stage?

[spark sinew]

Scene is excelent to block fireballs

summons also don't increase in cost, which helps a lot on the last wave, when your all units will cost 30+

[proud dune]

I don’t have a raised Scene

[glass monolith]

Just don't activate camo on cameras

I find it hard way that camo make fireballs pass you

[spark sinew]

Scene: "your life privileges has been revoked, civilians"

[peak cloak]

i see Schwarz and Pozy raised, i smile.

[glass monolith]

Shoperatored Schawrz from kernel cooking. Each day i am closer to point of owning every single Kernel op

AND I DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT YEAR 2 OPS GOING INTO KERNEL IN 5 MONTHS

[tame flower]

How can i use a crusher unit in my squad?

[remote perch]

wdym how?
like what is their use?

[tame flower]

İ mean i know how to deploy hım but i feel like can't get the Max value

[glass monolith]

Add to squad. Deploy on melee tile. Question your desicion to bring Crusher into combat

[tame flower]

Got this dude but he dies too fast

[remote perch]

they really die fast cuz they have no def

[glass monolith]

Well duh, e0. Also 0 def. You probably deployed him into slugs or dogs

[spark sinew]

you want to field him against hard hitting threats

[remote perch]

you have to bring a medic to him right away before deploying him

[spark sinew]

but he can't do shit without s3

[remote perch]

skill 3

[tame flower]

Oh

[glass monolith]

Enemy spammed - Crusher useless.
Enemy has archers/caster support - Crushers useless
Enemy is flying - Wait you still reading?

[remote perch]

you can unlock s3 by promoting him twice

[tame flower]

Welp

[spark sinew]

promote twice

[tame flower]

Yeah have been trying

[tame flower]

Any way they useful?

[glass monolith]

Only thing you can do with him is give him medic and try to 1v1 one of those hammer guys, big shield guys. Those are slow attackers so he should live longer than against Elden Ring dogs

[remote perch]

he will die to dogs at that level
just don't bother with him until you can raise him

focus on your other units first

[spark sinew]

just play the game and progress
lower rarity units are actually better/not bad early on

[tame flower]

Thanks

[tame flower]

One hell of a way to describe them

[glass monolith]

It is accurate description of dog enemies with how fast crusher die to them

[spark sinew]

what you can do is to put them out of harm's way on say, tiles that enemies don't go to

[glass monolith]

Crushers weak to be attacked. So you need something which don't attack as often

[spark sinew]

and then put defender in the enemy path

but it's still so so

[worldly stirrup]

hoederer is kinda weird unit.
if enemy weak, he also weak
if enemy strong, he also strong
i mostly use him as helidrop unit tho.
to kill elite or boss

[tame flower]

Thanks for help

[soft crystal]

Ulpianus healing off slugs

[glass monolith]

He HeAlS fRoM pOiSoN fOg

[peak cloak]

Our Lord, who art at Hypergryph, Hai Mao be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, in homes as it is at Hypergryph. Our Lord, please give us the Strength to overcome the CCB1's challenges that are coming and forgive us for our bullshits as we forgive those who bullshits against us. And lead us not into console peasantry, but deliver us from "Origin".
620, bless us!

[glass monolith]

Should have saved that for first most message as soon as someone open #cc-central

[warm saddle]

just cleared this on my baby jp account(started only for the kfc skins) i had to tank so many fireballs to make sure my right side defender didn't blow up

idk how i'd do this with any other lineup, is there anyone who has a better clear team for low lvl ops?

i literally made do with what i had but this cc makes me miss units on my main

prepped what i could for the new cc but idk just aiming for flamebringer was such a pain

[smoky halo]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EG411v7e3/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

surtr single core 620 pts

need week 2 risks

[polar crane]

but I need medal on june 8th

[smoky halo]

[polar crane]

flame something

[placid estuary]

Lmao I post the thing in the wrong channel

[polar crane]

[solar sage]

Anything good here??

[cosmic thicket]

wind chimes booba

other than that skip

[solar sage]

What does Aurora do??

[spark sinew]

bad

you're also so incredibly poor

it wouldn't matter tbh

[placid estuary]

Pozy and surtr good

Mizuki is alright

Saileach is very cool

[steep kayak]

Are these two worth levelling ¿

[solar sage]

I’m definitely aware 😂

Any tips on becoming wealthy?

[polar crane]

wealth like lmd wise? I heard #r-i-i-c know money hax, do not tell anyone

[radiant mesa]

No

[spark sinew]

there's a very good upcoming banner with Degenbrecher, it would be a good idea to save however you will have for it

[spark sinew]

well orundrum wise, just pushing the story and then doing Annihilations should be a good start

the caps reset each week (and when you do your first annis, you will gain cap extension up to 1700)

[solar sage]

Nice

I’m close to completing chapter 2-9

I just am a tad hung up on the best squad config for that map

I know two anti air snipers that focus on drones. And something to stop the jump packs. Either aggressive placement or defensive placement

I’m aware that I’ll require at least 2 casters for the elite leader units and maybe two crowd control/ slow supports

Or 4 casters?

[drifting grotto]

guide videos from eckogen will help u

if he doesn't have it, then kyostinv

[green turret]

Is this even doable with my squad it’s my first CC?

i can also borrow a unit too

[void terrace]

Damn sciels strat was actually goated

It has so much leeway

[mighty ingot]

i barely was able to do it with this team 😭

[green turret]

damn i have no hope

[spark sinew]

i heard you don't need to do it at once

but also with mlynar it should be fine

you even have defenders

[deft badger]

i would love to have a easy to navigate interface... ty

they are getting worst and worst

[spice mortar]

En players

[glass monolith]

i hate i can't make it ungroup risks by default

Well time for doing DP3 for banner run....... I have no plan

[deft badger]

how do u tank that guys with the big swords ? 😄

in this thing

they did 1 hit everything on 350

[radiant dune]

Ngl doubt ur gonna be able to tank em at all cuz they one shot my hoshi lol, I just used invis reveal ops and killed em before they could reach my blockers (and had spare blockers to stall just in case)

[safe knoll]

what skill do people usually use on viviana?

[lethal roost]

https://youtu.be/DCtO9YebuyY?si=2f2SyxSai-ciVymO

[deft badger]

did stop trying to block them, revile and spalter for slow with some other ops, they 2 hit my hoshi as well

[deft badger]

can i do that 2 now?

i dont really understand what they want from me

nvm i did have to collect the rewards, got them

[thick cradle]

does this team have enough healing capacity ?

[deft badger]

would build (ptilo in case u ever need her burst heal) and a ST healer

[cyan gorge]

S3

[cyan gorge]

I used Mr. Nothing and Roberta

[deft badger]

have been talking about 350

200 they dont do dmg xD

with 350 they do lol

[cyan gorge]

I know but they don’t get one shot so Typhon kills then

[wide sail]

i just use ines sword and suzu mostima

[deft badger]

last 2 waves have been a problem since they spawn so fast

but should have taken suzu actually

then it would be easy

have that one left and i am done... rest is time-gates

[long lotus]

Guys help how do I not get absoloutely mauled by frostnova?

(I can stall w/gravel and kirin for a while but eventually they reach the 2nd lane and I'm just absolutely cooked immediately

Ptilopsis gets frozen for a long time and can't heal for shit. Silence ong got one shot.

[deft badger]

borrow yato

and she is going to be mauled

yalter with s2

[long lotus]

Cool.

[deft badger]

and place ur ops to the left side

but u dont have to actually yato is going to kill her on spawn

and again when she switches to the left

start placing on bot so that she cant AA them from up there

i think the first add even spawn bot

[cyan gorge]

Is there a 620 strat that doesn’t use Eyjaberry, Mountain, or Thorns

[vivid rain]

There should be plenty

[cyan gorge]

I have yet to find one that isn’t pot gated

[glass monolith]

Back in my day "ez trim day 1" videos were e2 60 1 6*

[charred light]

https://youtu.be/zFDKAE-kQWM

[glass monolith]

Fuck those 3, i hate that each video has Ines

[azure forge]

dorothy strat

[cyan gorge]

Does Doro need max mod or pots?

[azure forge]

max mod in my memory

or eyja caster with ceobe

[cyan gorge]

I don’t have blocks to upgrade mod and I don’t have Ceobe either

[turbid badge]

heyo

[turbid badge]

bith

jk

[cyan gorge]

[turbid badge]

o poo out

your doing 620?

[cyan gorge]

Attempting

[turbid badge]

same thing

[cyan gorge]

Every guide has 2+ ops I can’t replicate

[turbid badge]

wtf zenith pro

[cyan gorge]

Eyjaless, Ceobeless, Mountainless, Thornsless

[peak cloak]

it was 1am and my eyes could not make it mega sadge

[summer copper]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EG411v7e3/

uses surtr

[west path]

I hate this event

[bitter halo]

not this high ground low ground shit again

[summer copper]

water chen in middle basically solve everything

[bitter halo]

good thing i have her. anyone else that can help ?

[summer copper]

💀

[bitter halo]

how is viviana

[west path]

Typhoon

[bitter halo]

LETS DO THIS BOYZ

[bitter halo]

I dont have her 😦

[west path]

😦

[bitter halo]

oh i can bring mlynar too

i swap myrtle for him so now i got a full 6* team

[topaz hollow]

something I dont understand about h12-4, boss 2nd phase
in a guide I watched, the player managed to kill the boss in one fell swoop
but when I do it, the boss enters invincibility mid way?
someone in #help said that the boss has a time limit so if I cant kill him fast enough he will go invincible
but I read his kit and theres no such thing

[smoky halo]

when the boss is casting derivative iteration or lifeline burst you can actually burst from above 50% hp to 0% hp during the animation of the skill

you have to time it well since its around an 8-9ish second window

[summer copper]

bru

im literally having a nausea doing 620

[steep kayak]

Is the new event supposed to be literally unbeatable or am i just dumb

[summer copper]

nah

im struggling on the last wither seed summon thingy

[steep kayak]

I can only do them with like one debuff max

[summer copper]

have beat everything else

the last wither seed thingy is so annoy

[steep kayak]

Do you get rewards if you do it this way btw ? Or do you have to have all four active

[summer copper]

honestly i don't know
might ask it in #cc-central

[steep kayak]

Oo thanks

[topaz hollow]

does he deal more damage the more I try to burst him?

[smoky halo]

no?

[summer copper]

YES

im having a headache rn

[sly drift]

Ppl done 600+ while I'm still figuring out how the hell I survive first wither drone wave without leaking the first Dublin soldier on right side

[summer copper]

I used ines to prevent leak

and pozemka here, facing left

it's barely enough to kill the drone

[high warren]

Which units I pick for stage 1? What support

I only know Ines ceobe kal healer hoshi

[mellow prism]

the fire stage or yan stage

[alpine bone]

im having trouble completing 2-3, this is the squad im using and my current roster

should i level everyone to 30 or something like that? is there any edits i should make to my squad?

[sick sky]

id say focus on e1ing some 3 stars
good ones are melantha, cardigan, kroos and ansel
those guys will help carry you to about ch 3-4 so having those raised while you work on others is good

[alpine bone]

okay ty!!

[foggy grove]

ditch weedy

[sick sky]

ofc!
i can try to make a small recording with an as close as possible strat

[sick sky]

weedys not bad but for sure not needed atm

[alpine bone]

that would be super helpful thank u 🥺

[sick sky]

ofc! lemme do it real quick~!
or i can vc stream it whatever you prefer!

[alpine bone]

recording pls!!

[sick sky]

alrighty!
gimme a few mins~

[alpine bone]

and also i still should level kroos even though i have archetto?

[foggy grove]

sure

[sick sky]

kroos is a good cheap investment

[foggy grove]

just replace jess with kroos

[sick sky]

and a lot of people still use her for things like integrated strategies!

^^

[alpine bone]

ok ty!!

[sick sky]

here you go!

at the end i showed who you could replace who with
just make sure skill levels are raised as well~
if you still need help just tell me and i can try a new strat!

[summer copper]

just a way of how u can do it
shield here can be replaced with any other shield u got, they are just here for block
lancet can be replaced with any healer
don't have to copy step to step, it's just a way of doing the level

[alpine bone]

thank you so much !!

[alpine bone]

ty!!

[sick sky]

if you wanna just borrow an op too feel free to add me if you want

[alpine bone]

that would be great!! could i add u?

[summer copper]

mate can I add u too

[sick sky]

yeah ofc!
it's SerxWan#3248
youre free to dm me if you want a specific op on support btw

i basically have 60% of all ops raise LOL

yeah ofc!

i have lik 5-7 friend slots left

[summer copper]

nice thx

[alpine bone]

tysm!!<3

[sick sky]

ofc !!

[summer copper]

added ty

[sick sky]

[dreamy escarp]

I have a question how do you deal with the invisibility of the withering collector disciples?

[sick sky]

silverash, ines, tsukinogi and eley all have uncloak

theres also cheaper options like totter who can see invis

[dreamy escarp]

Wait ines has an uncloak? :o

[sick sky]

yes!

her placed down sword does too

[summer copper]

after E2

[dreamy escarp]

Ohhh I forgot about that tysm!

[sick sky]

ines is the biggest carry in this cc

[dreamy escarp]

Mine is only lvl 20

Do you think that’d be fine?

[sick sky]

e2 lvl 20?

[dreamy escarp]

Er s3 lvl 20

Or e2 I mean

Aaaaa

[sick sky]

you wanna add me?
mines e2 max with m6

[dreamy escarp]

Sure! I don’t have very good chars to offer tho

[sick sky]

oh youre fine!
i dont borrow often cause my accs almost as old as the game LOL

SerxWan#3248 ~

feel free to dm me if you ever need to borrow an op
i can show who i have raised cause i have a krooster LOL

i mainly just add people cause i like helping em so anyones free to add me~

[dreamy escarp]

How kind

[sick sky]

[dreamy escarp]

Be my friend \o/

[sick sky]

added back !!! 🫶

[dreamy escarp]

Yay ty!

[sick sky]

ofc!! anytime!!

[dreamy escarp]

I wonder if i can get away with just running mountain and honeyberry to defend the lane…

[sick sky]

depending on how high difficulty you probably could!

[dreamy escarp]

I’m trying to aim for 520

But it’s kinda tough

[sick sky]

oh yeah for sure
i only did 320 for now cause im too lazy to do higher till tomorrow

[dreamy escarp]

Or er 540

Yeah

Dx

Oh yeah is there any other healing tank that’s 6 star out of curiosity besides saria

I’ve been using blemi but her heal kinda

Not enough

[sick sky]

nah just her and blemi
though bassline is a really strong 5* healer defender

[dreamy escarp]

Oooh

[sick sky]

hes an inbetween of nearl and saria

[dreamy escarp]

The last event did gimme max bass

[sick sky]

yeah!!
hes super strong for a 5 star defender so hes for sure worth it

[dreamy escarp]

Better than nearl?

[sick sky]

yep!
hes stronger than nearl but not as strong as saria

[dreamy escarp]

Ok!

[sick sky]

hes like an updated nearl basically

[dreamy escarp]

Cuz yeah I do need another healing tank

[sick sky]

if you want a funky defender theres heavyrain
she can heal but shes more of a tank

[dreamy escarp]

Heavyrain lemme see if I have

[sick sky]

shes free so you should!

[dreamy escarp]

Ohhh her

I have her skin for some reason squints

Giving camouflage kinda interesting

[dreamy escarp]

She’s tankier than most healing tanks you say?

[sick sky]

cause shes a tank rather than a healing defender!
but the strongest tank is hoshi if you get the mod

[dreamy escarp]

Ye my usual tanky tanks are hoshi and dragon

[sick sky]

if you ever get a horn, penance or mudrock theyre super good in terms of dps tanks

[dreamy escarp]

I have horn and Mudrock too

But my horn not leveled

I’m like permanently on life support lmd

[sick sky]

oh shes 100% a worth it op
she can uncloak with s1 but only if she attacks someone with it so its not as good as ines and such

[dreamy escarp]

And APPARENTLY it was a terrible idea to level phantom when I have alter texas

Idc he’s hot

[sick sky]

LOL
phantom still has a lot of uses

i have a maxed pot tex alter but i still find uses for phantom since his s2 is like an ammo based skill

[dreamy escarp]

My friend said Texas better and I told her that again, phantom hotter so like what am I gonna do

i promise to level my horn the next time i have lmd

i wasnt joking about life support

[sick sky]

LOL
nah take your time, honestly i find every op really useful so its more so just raise who you like

[dreamy escarp]

i permanently have more Originum than lmd

[sick sky]

that was me for a long tiME TBH

[dreamy escarp]

I am bad with lmd

cuz everytime i see male character i lvl

also your ines saved my run

tyty

[sick sky]

me too
im bad with mats tbh

and ofc!!!

[dreamy escarp]

also me

what are mats again

[dense compass]

materials

used to e1 e2 m1 m2 m3

m4m5m6 and with amiya +++++++\

m12

m18

[neat skiff]

Amiya goes M9, M15, M21. 3, 2, 2.

[grim thorn]

So uh is mylnar bad for auto runs?

[wide sail]

ethan

[glass monolith]

Literally Ethan with random bind chance on map

[spice mortar]

Xd

[sly drift]

I think I'm going insane on this cc

[glass monolith]

I copied guide for 620 and don't feel bad about it

[sly drift]

Wither spam, -DP, +Time redeploy. I absolutely have no idea how to start the stage

[spice mortar]

I start ines top left to kill a fire guy but after that its a bust for me too

[sly drift]

Why you join darkside

[wide sail]

i spoiled myself 6 months ago watching yt

[glass monolith]

I have to do Ines anyway so it wouldn't feel as win either way

[spice mortar]

Can you do anything else to start this stage?

[wide sail]

i used 5 vg

[spice mortar]

Literally every clear in salt mines uses ines lol

[sly drift]

I'm still figuring it out rn even with ines

[spice mortar]

Furthest ive gotten is ines kill fire guy in the middle and then drop ponc on the left side to block the one guy

[sly drift]

Like... This cc is punishing early game so damn bad

[spice mortar]

After that uhh i die right side

[wide sail]

i stole strat of having ines camp the bottom red box the whole stage

[spice mortar]

Where do u even place her for that

[sly drift]

How the hell does that even work. Wither will slap Ines the first time i deploy her

[vivid rain]

I used the canta fireball caster strat for early dp

[wide sail]

on the tile directly to the left of red box

[vivid rain]

Also not taking the sp down risks helps a lot

[wide sail]

in the reeds

[spice mortar]

But sp down so no dp

[vivid rain]

Use s1

[spice mortar]

Ill have to ask someone then, i borrow ines :p

[wide sail]

i used s2 with bag

but i only used 50% sp

[sly drift]

The fire will not spread to left side of the map right?

[wide sail]

yeah

[spice mortar]

Nope

As in it wont spread

[wide sail]

i love this type of question wording

[south bone]

Incredible

[long lotus]

Guys help frostnova is absolutely shitting on me rn

Ignore the file it was supposed to show this vvv

Frost nova insta-freezing my entire squad is just insane lmao

[peak cloak]

Borrow Tifon s3 🙂

[vital arrow]

Just, borrow yato alter

Or pozy

[worldly stirrup]

I cant read the text ☹️
What risk i should take to copy this strat?
https://youtu.be/w2NhzKptvhE?si=iapMg60HsqXREMEn

[glass monolith]

Click random buttons till risk on right sum up to whatever were risk in video

[polar crane]

do not take hp up

[glass monolith]

He literally shows risk at 4:50

[royal rose]

How do you even strategize in IS?

Feels like most maps are "lucksack or die"

[glass monolith]

I use RBG - Random Bullshit Go

[turbid badge]

learn maps and wein

[glass monolith]

Peak IS gaming is knowing outcome before entering stage

[royal rose]

Some maps need perfect teams though

[turbid badge]

floor 4 & 5 maps are something else

[royal rose]

Especially in IS4

And Emergencies are pain

[turbid badge]

the "perfect team" is degenbrencher

[royal rose]

Nah

You need like her E2 + E2 healers + E2 tanks + more E2 dpses

Some stages are literally game-enders on even F2

E Sluggies without enough healing is just instant game over

[glass monolith]

Just cook +15 shieldguards

[turbid badge]

lol

[sly drift]

Whats the most effective way to burst wither while being invincible and tough af. They spam suicide drone endlessly and when it hits, my ops instantly die with 100s redeploy while I'm slowly running out of dp

I'm slowly realize how dirty this map is

[remote perch]

i just kill them with Virtousa Ifrit

[vivid rain]

I just proceed to not pick invis tag

Really helped ngl

[sly drift]

Maybe I need saileach for dp + debuff

[spark sinew]

not really though

[topaz hollow]

in the guide I watched, this Ptilo had no module, is lv60 and survived Damazti phase 2 just fine
but my Ptilo is maxed out and always died

[turbid badge]

maybe place her closer to saria?

than she can be healed by NG and saria emergency s1

and lumen too ig

[topaz hollow]

yeah but the guide didnt do that

Im so confused why she dies

[turbid badge]

is there a reason why?

could just be unlucky dazmazti drone targetting lol

[glass monolith]

Unlucky cycle with her heal so she took burst damage from corrosion before healing herself

As an option

This fight is stupid and mess and cringe fuck damazti

[topaz hollow]

oh god now the target switches to my nightingale

okay thankfully managed to burst him down without her

its done

whoever made this stage

[peak egret]

Am i need more range tile unit opp on this?

[spark sinew]

stage dependent

[glass monolith]

Depends on stage. As long as stage ends with 0 enemies leak anything goes.

[spark sinew]

very heavy on top end and nothing to deal with early rushes though

[peak egret]

I see, thanks

[spark sinew]

people usually compensate it with bagpipe+flags/fast redeploys (that can kill)/ high damage ranged units, could be burst

so they have time to print dp

[long lotus]

I tried yalter and even with extra gravel stall I literally can't dps them in time

Also for some reason yalters skill damage is weirdly rng

[glass monolith]

Who them. Just murder shit out of Frostnova and play average 2 lane stage

[long lotus]

😐

[jovial nest]

ok comparing the CCB1 layout from POO, they categorized the risks really well

at least for main stage

its still fine in dailies since there's only a few risks

[soft crystal]

The layout is much better yes

[glass monolith]

Can't deny, combining risk by thing instead of "Get 100 offensive, figure what is offense yourself"

[long lotus]

Guys is cc even possible with this squad lmao?

[vital arrow]

Wait until week 2

[sly drift]

620 points? No

[vital arrow]

Play daily maps until then

[vital arrow]

Use s2

Not S3

If that doesnt work then just borrow pozy

[dapper hedge]

Even exu can solo her

[vernal lion]

funny trim medal

[heady sphinx]

what skill is yalter on?

[vital arrow]

They probably used s3

Its the only 'rng' skill yato has

[heady sphinx]

I mean both skills should be able to handle frostnova

[vital arrow]

S2 is more 'consistent'

Since FN has tiny ass hitbox

[vernal lion]

yalter s3 is only rng if you deploy her too close to the target

[dapper hedge]

She also has this weird thing going on with her
https://youtu.be/XrHtWW16vsI

[vernal lion]

but it doesn't matter much if the target died tho

just use her more times to kill them

funny old time

[heady sphinx]

she deals more damage the longer she is in an enemy hitbox.
if she moves the opposite direction of the enemy, she is in the hitbox less.
if she moves the same direction of the enemy, she is in the hitbox more.
stays in hitbox more = more damage

[vernal lion]

the biggest test is how to make yalter s3 works with any shift skill, like weedy s3

[vital arrow]

Depends on enemy weight

And shift force

[vernal lion]

I did try many times, it just doesn't work well

[heady sphinx]

if you manage to move the enemy the same speed as yalter's s3, it should work

[long lotus]

Ah okay thanks

[heady sphinx]

speaking of shifts, I was doing IS4 last night with Gladiaa S1 with shift relic, and tell me why some enemies get blocked by her when she pulls them, but rubberbands others and flings them right into blue box

I wish I had a recording of this

[vernal lion]

you mean this?

[heady sphinx]

yes, that bs

but s1

some enemies she clearly blocks them, but others just go right over her

[vital arrow]

Something something velocity

[glass monolith]

Push having only 3 stages - Doesn't work, barely works, another side of map

[vital arrow]

Pulls are designed to slow down and stop on the caster

But if you modify it then it can overshoot

[heady sphinx]

going to record IS runs now to document this nonsense

[vital arrow]

Also not to mention shift is so cursed rainchan doesnt even want to touch it again

[heady sphinx]

I flung the IS4 boss with the black smoke to my blue box and had a panic attack, but it just moved normally in the blue box trying to get out and got blocked, but the other enemies that got flung -1 life

[vernal lion]

it's cursed because of the unmovable enemy

gladdia when she tries to pull the tree

or chest

[vital arrow]

Its just cursed in general

[latent monolith]

shoving enemies through blue box is always funny

[vital arrow]

Like how you cant shift properly if the enemy is splitboxed with the caster

Or weedy S3 has cursed interaction with clumps of enemies

[vernal lion]

remind me of the DV mech in mini story

[vital arrow]

Or enforcer in general

[latent monolith]

wasn't rainchan testing enforcer some point after he released

I never saw what happened of it

[vital arrow]

Yeah

[vernal lion]

they had enough of craze

[noble pewter]

can anyone borrow me an ines s1? Freeman#4052

[honest ibex]

swamp march + wild weeds easily for sure, more than that and i doubt

mountain just trivializes wild weeds

[long lotus]

Could you show how you deployed your ops here please?

@honest ibex

[honest ibex]

sussuro faces towards myrtle/arene, if arene leaks i place cutter and retreat right after
myrtle gets replaced by cuora when rovers arrive, mousse is placed once the first rover is attacked by cuora, gravel helps mountain to not die (mountain can die at 23 and let the two last flamechasers pass)
the fire casting guy gets killed at the end by cutter gravel and steward

[long lotus]

?

Oh alr thanks

[honest ibex]

arene faces right for the rovers

oops forgot to note perfumer

place her whenever myrtle is half hp cuz you need that dp

[turbid badge]

o lawd

necrosis will kill

[honest ibex]

funny necrosis

i think you deployed bena a few times

[turbid badge]

she only died once lol

ch'en finished off the gong caster that killed her thouh

[honest ibex]

that's one expensive doll keeper

[turbid badge]

do your 4* masteries

[ocean ether]

why s3 typhon?

[honest ibex]

s3 typhon my beloved aoe skill

[ocean ether]

why not just S2

[turbid badge]

i dont usually run s2

i thought burst was more important lel

only really use s2 in IS

[ocean ether]

you realize typhon S2 on rosmontis tile would have hard carried?

[turbid badge]

how did you deal with the invisible peeps

just defenders?

[ocean ether]

yep

[turbid badge]

these were my risks

im gonna try ashy marsh or whatever

[ocean ether]

https://youtu.be/1MMMmE1MNzU?si=C8PREUQlgG3soHym&t=189

[long lotus]

How do I deal with the camo rovers lmao? They one shot everything 💀

I tried bassline + medic spam and they ong still die

[ocean ether]

mlynar + SA, ines + surtr to assasinate before they reach you

if you cant assasinate, hoshi + eyjalter to stall. But hoshi needs to be well built

[long lotus]

Unfortunately I can't borrow six ops

😔

[ocean ether]

as in they are each a possibility

[honest ibex]

cuora s2 is enough defense to tank them both

im just gonna upload my clear ig

[ocean ether]

mlynar + SA used in kyo's video to assasinate the rovers + drones in one go
cant remember where I saw ines reveal + surtr to kill them, but its one of the videos
hoshi + eyjalter is the 7 ops one

[honest ibex]

i was kinda brainrot while doing it

[long lotus]

Who's SA btw?

[astral cosmos]

silverash

[ocean ether]

silverass