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especially considering how you need to click them a lot
for chungus the map shape kinda sucks yeah
unless u place like ASPD Ethan in front of him and have 2 tanks
the hardest map was that beach one, almost got wiped by bullies
join us
skalter buffing everyone is cool i guess
and then goldenglow top for another DPS? idk
oh wow i didn't even have skalter
but killing defense crushers while blocking them is kinda scary
When QB skin. 
not sold on it actually
Red black aesthetic better.
this map is the reason why i run penance
B….but, gotta buy it for the memes. 
what memes
to not use it after all.
now that i look at my carries...
yeah i just abused mlynar apparently
cause idr other 2 doing shit
lmao
i handheld someone's SSS the other day and carnelian is actually not bad at all for MJ
device B is kinda funny, if wildly win more
the +permits and DP?
yeah, picked it because i needed to unlock it for archive or whatever
Lin carry is the way. 
i maindeck lin yeah
What is maindecking?
even for MJ you can just run cheaper casters
lin dumpsters f5 and f6 (f5 the little tumors give lin a lot of extra DPS, and f6 she can get like 4-5 SP from being hit by the torpedoes)
so the Star Ring splash dmg is only active when Kristen is in the range of 5 tiles to it
putting her in original squad
Oh. Thought you meant the supporter shuffle thing.
ok i only ran eyja as a caster
in f4 lin can contribute as well as a body in top lane, the only enemies that actually threaten her are the tanks but she can proc s3 to make them sicko mode early
pretty horrible, in hindsight
good positioning as well lets her hit the boats
although first floors are so easy you vang spam anyway
so -exalter, cy
-canta
should probably add 1 spec and one caster + a melee carry?
Lin Mizuki?
should I curse at the game for having a hard stage?
gg’s fine.
3 fodder supporters for transfer?
can certainly pick up more, i'm really not sure about the fodder-carry ratio
technically all supporters are fodder yeah
can i get help for making a team for ls 6 the message has my box #help message
If foddering, might as well put in Gnosis Skalter so you don’t have dead slots.
or should i repost it
repost it
skalter is a waste of slot regardless though
i'm iffy about gnosis without going hard into snipers but maybe
why are you doing LS-6, first off
ideally you shouldn't farm it exceptions apply
Used him mainly to stall a bit at the start with s3.
probably desperate to raise operator
They have an E2 texalt
which part u are stucking in ls 6?
last ones lancet 2
e1 gravel vermeil, get purestream 👍
enjoy the better prod base
right side
bigs guys and drones?
You can literally just drop texalt on right side
yeah
true
Along with the big guys
if texalt isn't enough use lava too
very...interesting account
any suggestions for what im lacking
definetely.
indeed, we may have same thoughts
you don't lack anything
3 limiteds, mly thorns
No offense, but 'basic strats'
You have 2 of the top meta units in the game
but hey, can your ops tank big guys at least?
You can not pull for the next 6 months and be fine
just build mlynar and pennce fr.
i joined arknights because i heard nice things its just i feel like a information overload everytime i try
So how new did you say you were again
i would probably hold off penance here
at least until thorns mly and base slaves
ive been on and off alot but i havent gotten past ch 2 till like a week ago
i forgor he does hve thorns
just take it easy,and you will get how the game works
yeah don't do the LS6, you don't want to farm it
go push story
Idk how do you even get e2 texalt without going past ch2
i know but brain hurts and feel stupid
Everyone is stupid
ideally take texalter out of your squad
They get better by playing the game
but people keep saying to go e2 people
if you don't know the mechanics you will be so bad
when clearing chapter 2 with texas e2
Yes, after you've covered the basics
watch youtube strats from kyo or ecko,you can learn how to play the game by knowing why they deploy the operators on certain stages.
Are you sure you didnt skim some parts of the advice
Like the ones that say build your base or dont skip tutorials
base slaves i got my base built correctly and i read the tutorial but i dont think i understood the tutorials
Read it again
You have a lot of unraised base slaves
build your base first then you can focus with e2
wait in game tutorial or person made tutorial
^
from the quick glance
there are a lot of base guides on youtube just search them up


i bet most suck
#r-i-i-c and ask questions if you want, we don't bite most of the time
uhh yeah most suck i forgor about that
the worst thing is that new player wouldn't know the bad info from good info
I give bias info
wait i think i almost got it
but probably should see youtube tutorial anybody got a goods one
real.
Just search 'stage name' guide
yea stage name + arknights
no but like the tutorial to learn to do stuff myself
What 'stuff'
exactly
basic stuff
You mean tutorial on how to 'play the game'?
there are a lot of basic stuff
The basics are in the game itself
Go through and find the tr-x stages
i think Dreamy had a mechanic vid
this is why i dont trust your oberon pfp
The rest you just learn through trial and error or guides
which was basic enough but at the same time good enough to make you a lot better than most players
like team building for a stage
bro what
/teambuilding
The Rule of Thumb of Team Building
2
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- Either bring two Pioneers (2-block DP-on-skill) (ex. Vanilla, Fang) or change one of them to a Charger (DP-on-kill) (ex. Plume). Chargers are recommended on stages with early waves of lightly armored enemies. Standard Bearers (ex. Myrtle) are recommended to be paired with a Pioneer, and provide massive DP-on-skill regeneration.
- It is recommended to bring one Protector (ex. Beagle, Cuora, Hoshiguma) and a Guardian (healing defender) (ex. Spot, Gummy, Nearl).
- Choose depending on the enemies and ranged tile placement; if many drones are present make sure at least one Marksman (anti-air priority; ex. Kroos, Exusiai). If large waves of mobs appear, try using an Artilleryman (ex. Shirayuki).
- One single-target medic (ex. Myrrh, Ansel) and one multi-target medic (ex. Ptilopsis, Perfumer) is recommended.
- It is recommended to bring one core (ex. Amiya, Steward) and one splash caster (ex. Lava, Gitano).
- Like snipers, use what's necessary for the map, dreadnoughts (ex. Melantha) are good assassins, Centurions (ex. Popukar, Specter) can help counter large waves.
For an easier time getting familiar with units available in the game and their kits, you can find some linked resources under /links.
Disclaimer
As playstyles differ between players, and maps are all different in design, feel free to make your own modifications to the team roster as deemed necessary. This list does not include
and
, but the two classes include operators that can be of massive help on various maps. This guide should only be used as a base reference, and you should use your own knowledge of the map and operators to build the perfect team for your clear.
blud really think i'm my pfp
Are you ?
i'd like to,but no.
nah but i dont trust his fans either
That's sad
aigh aight back to arknights it's not an off topic channel
i honestly think you're at a point where your teambuilding priorities will shift
just play, push the story enough and go with the flow
you can learn as you push the story 
like you just e2 those 3 and most of the roles go out of the window, since those ops will cover them
I'm more surprised he have that kinds of roster and not knowing basic stuff
didn't answer my question about the price, but i understand
You'd be surprised
when i was playing off and on i just asked here and they said pull them
Wow that's crazy
You havent seen the guy with 2 pages of *6 E2 and cant clear chapter 6
How’d bro get the 6* e2
Feel like i know that guy
how about full squad of e2, e2 90 mly and can't clear anni3
Anyways ak has a learning curve, so just push story and learn accordingly.
mlynar is making people stupid
I know someone that's called criyl or smth
But he's a newbie that used his friend's packed account
not sure if mlynar is the culprit...
People have been stupid before mlynar existed

'Surtr is bad because she dies on s3' was something that popped up often here
bro what
She is tho 
'surtr fell down'
- Mudrock guy
she dies slowly true but she doesnt weak.
while you push the story
don't forget to do this
i've heard that mlynar is hard to use because he doesn't block
🤔
Surtr is bad because there are operators better than her
i mean mlynar is absolutely worse than some alternatives for stacked accs
Honestly I find it hard these days to bring her to default squad
provided content is trash enough
surtr is bad because according to dagyo 13 dp texas is too expensive so surtr costing 21 dp is too much
like yk, if i can just put something afk that blocks and wouldn't die
and clears the stage anyway? yeah it's better than mlynar in this context
Are u broken becuz content is easy or is content easy becuz u are broken?
but the fact that mlynar doesn't block makes him better.(for me atleast)
Idk about the other
But since her released, I've never seen why is she a must bring on default squad
no it literally is an upgrade
the ability to not block is actually a very strong one
it's a boon in actually hard content (not always, but most of the time)
i dont know how to use mlynar im so stupid i dont get the easy win
because i can just put mlynar anywhere and not worry about him dying.
yours is not e2
yes
Yours is E1 duh
Taunt:
this does big damage
me when i click a button and the enemies disappear
there's not a lot of actually scary ranged enemies
well there are certain scary global range abilities
most of the time when your laners die of cringe it's because they block 2 or more enemies and you know they're already dead
I used mlynar on dorothy themed anni and never even need a medic for him an he slay all
hi thorns
Thongs
you will rarely find one shotting ranged enemies y'know
i like thorns
taunt is actually good because he can damage sponge offskill with his like 4k hp
||you like e1 thorns? ||
Also decent def
i just like that he a good def that also does range atks
i still don't know dolly's timings
never even needed to think about deploy order either
Mlynar taunt too strong.
yeah basic lord guard stuff
to be fair, thorns s2 kinda slaps
can't wait for lord module to make it the obvious better skill :YA:
Im gonna slap you
i never used it
It's shit
it's the main skill for iberiaknights
niches.
It's not bad when you got nothing else
if you have access to the rest of the roster there's very little reason to bother
it also actually synergizes with his talents 
does it apply dot, idr
honestly just add enfeeble on his dot
HG been slapping enfeeble on everything anyway
that would actually be hilarious
Shamare basically
would also help him to not die that fast
Sounds like delta shenanigans, too far away. 
even helps s2
Gotta wonder why HG still refuses to make lord guard modules.
world is not ready for global vision SA
Yeah they like making mod for new sub class more than the one that already exists

I am ready
Hi ready I’m dad
Prob because of the expectations of other players don't you think?
It's SA after all
Can't mess up his mod
What expectations they gonna put dogwater mod on the best ops in the game
||oh they will ||


what was the last good mod we got on older utility ops
They been doing this so many time idk why they refuse to give basically stat buff to meta ops
Surely, that’ll work.
statstick ones can get good ones (see blaze)
but idr good ones for the supportive ish ops
Mostima? Ethan? Idk.
How do i clear tn1 orientation
those were forever ago
shit.
Aak had a pretty good mod
honestly i'm curious if carne got mods like that because she has bind and slow in her kit
They likely just dun wanna make support modules too strong since supports are alr mega op.

And then they undershoot the bar.
also like senz said, aak it even improves helidrop capability, somewhat
I wish ntr mod isn't dog water
i just get mod1 for more damage, good enough
honestly didn't feel like she really needed mod anyway
Gotta believe they’ll make better mods. 
It’s the same blocked enemies thing like Gavial2’s no?
Both characters were pretty good to begin with, so can’t really expect that much buffs.
But cmon fucking more damage when block
idk just pick the first one
Simple and efficient.
At least make it goofy
op with big number gets bigger number
i mean you either drop her on enemies with s2 or use s3 and block with her/sun anyway
and it also should work if you're using s1 with a defender for some reason
It's not about the mod being bad it's more the mod being basic as hell
would you rather she gotten sleep on deploy
Like the ops have 3 unique skill and they give her the most by the book mod
Could say the same thing about Eben.
ironically yes
2 shit mods. And then finally something decent.
stay away from me
At least Nearl didn’t have to wait.
||how's mody bad ||
too slow 😦
Until the 3rd one just shit on it
i mean aoe is still only on mody
It’s not even that much different from mod X, and yeah pretty slow.
just you wait for elemental res to become the norm
Xmod's bad in a general sense but at least it's funny
But do they really need 3 mod
carne does need third mod
He didn't even get a 24 skin
yet
Needs redemption.
She just might.
I want saria 3rd mod where she just do dps
the s3 is so horrible, wtf were they thinking
Carne got 2 skin tho right?
Summer and winter.
bad and good skin ye
The trade off for her shit s3 
Summer bad agree. 
Hool would probably never get a buff 
a more supportive mod, trust
actly haven’t seen much Hool usage, is she really that bad.
Tf she supporting
Ye she really feel like the dev dont really know what they want with her
also reducing/removing weightless hp can
yes
and you know i cope a lot of units
Yikes. 
Like all her skill feel underbake
terrible as a dps
Her mod feel useless
she got the wrong mod to start with
the SP mod would hvae been so much better on her
she's so wildly off typical use cases that you'll have to be checking nicheknights or shitposters for her
Idk if the right one can fix her just her basic kit is underwhelming
that said i do remember some clears
gd.
hool is very funny for SN because levitate and silence
They really should just make her s3 pierce
Assume she falls in the range of, “fulfils a certain niche”, but fails to provide anything other ops can’t?
i'm not sure if she fullfills a certain niche
well also the niche is nearly nonexistent
unless you count this as a niche
Can’t even make the base addicts build her since her base skill is so bad. 
she's better than ange on it yeah

at least it seems easier to execute
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insane
Diabolical. 
damage is so bad it looks like cc12 stall
i mean those defenders have like 100k-ish hp
and beefed up regen
be glad they died at all
nah they're funny
the score needed to clear is actually sane
200 score means you avoid basically all of the annoying tags
this is max for that submap
The 1P relay one was fun.
wait was it
i remember archers doing a lot more 🤔
or were they just tanky as hell with decent damage
they prio the ice cream tower so like
you have some buffer before they start gunning you
ice cream towers have a lot of hp
oh is this pyrolysis map
no it's POO
as long as the tower isn't captured you have like a 100k hp sponge on the map
damn my memory is so bad apparently

Ho'olheyak as a standalone is a laneholder among Casters for the duration of S3 but any normal player can just use better ops for that and even among Casters she's generally worse than Dusk at it.
You can also repurpose her as a DPS by splitboxing so she hits one enemy with 2 tornadoes for 3k DPS but you rarely hit that number on bosses due to levitate immunity. She does really well as a DPS against large bosses even without levitate if you can find a tile for her.
As a Casterknights player myself however I almost exclusively bring her for her range. She's not a bad Caster imo but definitly not among the top.
@tall cairn here's some funny ho'ol clears btw since i'm at it
CW-10 1-tile no hit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyfygM0n9L8
SL-S-5 CM casterknights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq-XTbQWOtA
H9-5 casterknights https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wh4y1t7Dc
damn ho'ol really is rare to see
Let me add this one too since it's fitting and shows off multiple use cases
TfN#3 Spectacular TN-3 Casterknights https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14N411i7gW/
OK i will call the squad the MMM (Mumu is only here to reduce the DP cost). In facts summoners are fun to use.
oh hey rhine trio
Rhine summoner trio too!
how strong would this niche be
and then theres also
Ling - Scheherazade (Inoue Kikuko)
Eyjafjalla - Kiyohime/Marie Antoinette/Mata Hari (Taneda Risa)
Mudrock - Dioscuri Pollux (Mayaa Uchida)
Mizuki - Setanta (Murase Ayumu)
Weedy - Mary Anning (Naganawa Maria)
@turbid badge doing last executor s1 mastery 
anyone have a strat for 4-4, im new
holy fuck the amount of devices and oriron i had to farm
what part r u struggling with n send ur roster
aight lemme take an Ss
it's CS stage
wait its the clownslayer stage
I made this with low rarity operators, so all of you will 100% have them... (i hope)
If you have better operators of the same category, you can replace them.
It's not essential to follow the steps perfectly accurately.
Adjust the strategies a little bit for yourself to suit your own team comp better.
Arknights Low Rarity Squad - Main Story Leve...
im struggling around 25% in and here’s my roster
yeah uh just watch the video
oh the thing is i haven’t raised most of the OPs in the vid tho
just copy the box placement
pushing crownslayer through the box is hilarious
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ki4y1N7wN/ yato sweep
durin op
oh wow, sakurai voiced merlin
is this some fate niche
well dont think ur gonna lose much w that roster
theres not a singlr 5*
feels too broken to be even considered a 'niche'
pretty expected for HG to pull big names to voice the 6*s
niche has ling, dead on arrival
it also has AH lmao
simply ban :kek:
i could cut it down to fate/zero or sn only see how that goes
and then surtr, schwarz, rosa if you spot a statcheck
sure go ahead
Ito Shizuka is All You Need
idk who that Fate servant is
Rin (Skyfire), Archer (Mr. Nothing), Assassin (Lee), Bazett (Gladiia), Luvia (Schwarz), Caren (Projekt Red), Saber(Siege), Kiritsugu (Mlynar)
thats all i think?
oh theres also Irisviel for Penance
i think thats a good spot for someone as braindead as me
the purple sword guy
PR-B-2 is giving me trouble, this is my current squad. Any recommendations for good archers and casters for the anti air? I'm not doing enough damage for the drone crowd control
are you putting your snipers on anti drone tiles
bring more sniper
ditch bubble and amiya
okie
why don't you bring more than three units that can attack air
who would be good f2p units for it? Idk who I should bring exactly
kroos
Literally one Kroos should solve it
kk
what does f2p unit mean, welfare 🤔

Every operator is techinically f2p
your acc has a lot of units at e2/e1 max so no one would rec you random units
it all depends on what you raised
Is blue poison good for it? She's leveled
this is true
brain no want to think
Any snipers/casters you have raised will solve your problem
maxing up your levels is a very bad use of resources, just in case
I learned that recently, only characters I'm focusing on for e2 is Exusiai and Mudrock
everyone else seems fine
They meant E2 maxing ops are excessive
The cost of going 60-90 is the same as doing an E2 from scratch
That worked guys, I lost 2 castles but I'll refine it
Thanks for the help, even tho it was obvious lol
if you leak just reset
2 star is just a waste of sanity
to add to what Stick said
e2 maxing is a waste
but so is e1 maxing weird shit (which you do plenty)
don't e1 max unless you plan to e2 them in very very near future (which it doesn't seem like you do)
my fault crew mate, I'm an FGO player. I got this game cause I heard the story was good but I waited to play through the story until I caught up with FGO which I finally did
So yeah idk what I'm doing
i mean that's why we're telling you it
latter levels are expensive so you're better off not doing those without a reason
i need to e2 my firewatch 
patient people will be rewarded
i'm pretty sure dorothy has kohl anyway
and i remember farming it on shu as well more like skipping in favor of rma
well it’s not like there’s anything else to farm rn
ill probably do red certs
both good chips and red certs are open
Thankfully i didn't have enough guard chips to e2 skadi
saved from becoming ** player
AH? 
AH is outdated
Become AH + 4 Sui Shu player 
Degeneracy is like power creep, vertical


you deserved it

im having a problem with the stratgey expansion task in trials for navigator, i have 7 ops deployed when the mission finished but it doesnt complete, does it require having 7 ops deployed the entire time?
so each map switch iu have to have 7 ops deployed, but do those same 7 ops have to stay on the map the entire run
or do i just have to have 7 ops deployed inbetween map transitions every time the map swaps
can this team beat 10-17 on adverse mode?
yes
should obliterate it, if you give pozemka her module, even more so
trust takes time....:(
either way kaltsit eats manfred alive 
Yea
true dmg skill, right?
yep
can beat 10-17 with flying colors yes
@timid acorn @scarlet mortar thx for the vids and the info. Always nice to see how better players solve problems. On the topic of caster knights tho, comparison of Carne and Lin?
Can someone remind me of Damazti's definition of isolated op is for the instant kill attack
8 tiles. So that's why it hit ExFed
Huh. Spectacular Damazti hits a lot lighter than I expected
My Exfed dropped to 100 def and his hp still stayed healthy the whole fight
yeah seems like a pushover tbh
Maybe I got lucky with s2 dodges too
Hi guys, so. I don't want to bust out that "Is it just me or" and "Am I the only one who".
But like, R8-8?!?
Is it just me or is it insanely hard.
I can't figure out for the life of me how to do it. I deploy Meteor who can't reach the drones, or if I deploy her closer she dies to lasers.
R8-8 isn't an uncommon roadblock. It plays a lot differently from normal maps
For some reason damazti tfn is easier than whatever the hell they put in h12
It's actually pretty slow paced once you understand it
I deploy Platinum who can take out the first drone, but then I have to recall her and then I don't have time before the jetpackers kill me anyway.
And Talulah keeps eating lasers if I keep her safe by boxing her in...
Slow charge ops like Plat don't like redeploying unfortunately
Hmm.
So I assume I have to kill the boxes/drones/clear the rooms in a counterclockwise fashion.
I can't quite figure out how to do it in time.
That's the common way.
The drones are also arts resistant so I assume casters won't work as well.
Hence my reliance on Meteor/Platinum.
If you're inclined to borrow, Goldenglow or helidrop nukes that hit air are common carries
uhmm
its talulah escort map right?
Oh, is this a stage that necessitates um.
Yes
Borrowing? 😭
Yeah arkhy. I've been stuck for the past... 30 minutes lol.
Unlike Patriot, I actually am not making progress toward figuring out my wincon kinda.
I'm just as stuck as first attempt.
tex alt can solo it
platinum used on the left side with bait to kill 2 ufo
It doesn't necessitate it, but it's a lot easier with one
She can only take out one UFO. 😦
Isn't this map just "kill drones or be killed"
sorry typo
left side
I am pretty sure low rarity can do it but it's not something someone new-ish would probably figure themselves
They're also all positioned in such a way where like.
If I deploy, they're within laser range
I tried + Gummy but Gummy dies too.
who do u have?
They have 800 def and 50 res btw
Oh my god.
Most would recommend you borrow something that can kill the drones
wait
lemme ss my clear
gimme a min
Something Mlynar mayhaps, or is SA range actually matters here
Hmm. So I'd need to find an Exusiai friend..
mlynar or tex alt are best borrows
Exu doesn't like 800 def stuff
LOL.
Oh that's a bigger Plat than I expected
The map is a lot slower than it looks
Oh.
Okay so I'm trying to do as much thinking independently as possible. But I would like to ask for tips.
SA can actually wipe all the drones even after repeated redeploys, but that requires knowing the map pretty well
and he's a dated dps
To incentivize the Doctor to move Talulah, each room will have jetpackers spawn and move into the blue boxes.
Meaning I can deploy DPS units to take them out, but I'd need enough for... however many rooms.
I could constantly (re)deploy Meteor/Platinum, but that takes time, though once I deal with the jetpacker threat, I should be fine.
Your Plat should be able to snipe 2 drones. A starting and one of the middle patrolling ones
moduled meteor can shred
Theres only 1 spawning drone

Once s2 kicks in yeah
Hmm. So I would deploy Gummy to the left of your Saria then?
Er, right*
Gummy died?
Were 2 ufos bombing her? She should survive handily if only 1 ufo is hitting her
Oh. Is that why.
Okay so this is a bit unintuitive to me.
But why clear left first?
Left is lowest priority since I have more time.
And it's symmetrical so it shouldn't matter.
Also I died before I got to higher mob count so idk what happens further down the mission.
The ufos attack only every 5 seconds, so if only 1 ufo bombs her she should get s1 off every hit which should keep her healthy
Wrt Gummy
i use april there to delete top right drone
drone spawn 1 or 2 idr and they are slow
so give you enough time to kill top right drone
frd are important too to kill jetpack dudes
Yep Gummy is donezo.
To elaborate, I deployed Meteor where Amiya is, to kill that drone on top. Then I deployed Myrrh to heal her.
Then Meteor started shooting the box, so I uhhh... picked her back up.
Holy Saintess bless my mortally eyes. What in the earth is this map? 
Now I deployed Platinum and Gummy there to the left.
But you see they're both dying
Hmm. Maybe this one I do have to borrow, which I guess I'm willing to if it's impossible lol. 😭
But I'd like to go as far as I can by myself.
Platinum, once fully charged, can probably handle two drones.
But... she won't last. I was thinking of bringing in a Ptilopsis and deploying her north of Gummy, but I think she'd die too.
Wait but then Platinum dies.
gummy should be taking the aggro
OH.
so she dont waste her charge
OHHHHH.
WAIT.
?!?!
OH.
I see! I knew it was aoe but.
I see, she would soak the lasers by herself.
Omg.
Okay for some reason I thought Platinum would keep eating lasers.
Okay lemme do this alone again, thank you so much.
haha
good, you learning
Are there any more tips on how to use Pinecone better? Like positioning and stuff? I want to maximize her usage in my team.
nothing really
its the same as how to use chalter
is my man doing 4* only? 
the only different is only s1 usage
that require more attention
Okay so hmm. It's a bit better now.
I'm able to at least take out o the middle box.
So thing is.
I'm not sure. Haha.
Hmm. I don't have the dps to take out the new drone (the one on fire). Amiya died.
Myrrh couldn't outheal its lasers.
I'd need a second healer defender, imo.
That new drone on the top-right is a spawned one (the original one died).
No, I just like Pinecone's character, design, and her kit. Press delete button is fun.
so the other task is kill the drones with counterclockwise order
frd are nice for this map
from red up to yato2
Yeah.. hmm. I probably will have to do that.
i mean prio is kill top right drones after done with plat and gummy
So frds will tank the drones I'm assuming?
they can do a lot of things
to kill the jetpack dudes
Oh oops.
breaking box,killing jetpack,taking some shot
H11-4, can someone sum up the general strategy to beat it because the boss wipes out my team like toilet paper
while pay attention to jetpack dudes
their spawn are time gated type
Yeah. Hmm.
That's why I may need to raise a frd unit, because I don't have the units to deal with them as they come.
I think(?).
Hmm.
No I have Deepcolor...
steamknight triple punch is 2700 phys dmgx3
Her tentacles can probably handle it.
Sweet Jesus
that works too (summoner)
the only downside is they took your precious ranged tile in that map
Hmm. I see, you're right.
Can anyone tank that much?
yeah hoshi or nian
lower rarity like cuora can if you give some helps like mousse
I also would need to recall Deepcolor in time to refresh my tentacles because she only has 7 with mod.
you dont necessarily have to tank the knight big stab thing you could just body swap for that attack
e1 frd are enough tho
or if have agent (ines or canta) that works too
Body swap?
bring multiple tanks so that you can swap a new one in whenever the previous one dies
you rotate his punching bag
Ohhh

cycle your blocker
for this trick to work well you're recommended to clear out the stage first (unless there's a killgate)
constant -%atk would solve steamknight big punch tho
but doubt you find mousse user easily
mousse is a 4* so you can just e1 sl7 her easily
man my executor s1m3 isn’t done until 1am 
why are you doing s1 mastery
because i can??
pro
which executor?
ranged or melee one
ranged
Should I use someone stronger than mousse or will that rush things in a bad way?
Cuz I know steam guy dishes out some punishments every 50%
oh i have exalt s3m3 too with mod3
but trying to continue with my 5* ops
Mousse works cause of her atk debuff
don’t have enough lmd to e2 my firewatch 
without your blocker might not survive
aware of steamknight other skill have a spesicific targetting?
Will 3 spare defenders be enough?
counting the boss skill cd and your redeploy time
should be enough
well i assume your defender are all e2
Why sorted by redeploy 
Cuz maybe I could just bring 2
if no, use mousse instead to back stab him just to keep -atk apply all the time
Okay
and dont forget
dont make mousse accidentaly block him
So now I understand how to deal with steam hobo how do I deal with.. the maws
who maws?
ohh that one
sadly only dps is the answer, since that thing are dmg sponge anyway
just borrow exu
huge range dmg dealer is probably better for this one
I used Chetto to kill them
well actually steamknight def high af hmm
but well mlynar
S2 or s3 exu? Idk if s3 will work all the time
S3 does more damage, therefore better
I’ve gotta line up the maws and the s3
exu s3 require you to count her skill cycle to avoid waste skill on nothing
no issue with that then yeah can use her
honestly if you dont have enough dps to kill devourer in time just feed him gravel and kill him with your other dps
Or just become a Chetto enjoyer 
mine use leizi which is weird choice and dont follow it
Can they eat this?
yeah
they eat summons so I would assume so
Fk me
if they’re blocked they go nom nom
But at least they don’t kill my nearl
Do you just not have snipers or something? 
I might borrow eyja 2 cause my healers are meh
is that a stage in chapter 12?
if you're swapping defenders anyways, do you even need much healing?
nah just old h11-4
Corrosion boys hurt me
ah, i saw steam knight
Nightingale couldn’t outheal it so nearl died
You know The mousse thing? So You dont need a lot of defenders
I might try the mousse Strat
- this isn’t for me
- they mentioned rotating defenders
Ah ok sorry
anyone else have issues with this stage?
I’ll try this stage on my day off
i think i have developed skill issue
Same
start from that first yeah
come back here if still stuck
and we can try to fix it
ran through it and beat it with four stars second try
but this locked team is just way worse
why is exu s1?
Ikr
lappland silence does nothing against the exploding enemies taking over gramophones
and there’s literally no way to ensure they don’t explode in gramophone range
every tile on their path except the blue box is close enough to one
I’ve tried working around the fact that I’ll just lose gramophones but then the golems run through
I think they want us to sacrifice a gramophone
h11-4 exu timing, u deploy exu when the first enemy stop moving at around 0/38 or 1/38 kill count. i remember it's a perfect timing.
but not sure if your exu is m3 for sp cost.
but i feel like u are copying a guide from someone?
if i had a better exu skill id probably burst the exploders close enough to the first gramophone with phantom stalling them, and just let the other enemies go through to an actual choke point
actually that’s probably still the play
No guides worked for me since they were all abyssal, hoshi e2, skalter, 100% maxed out 4 stars
Kyo guide was too long 
But from what you guys said I’ll do the mousse Strat and exu start
so is irene
whos ceylon artist
Yea
the talent

and being 30
skade
fuck
Her skin is a different artist tho
oh hmm
whos for her skin?
who is it
irene was still passable as her cooldown is much longer than chen and they can pair together
my main question
Horin
who else is drawn by horin
Highmore
just use sui squad
ling carry

Erato abuse 
seaborn
Wait can you even use sui squad for 3?
Erato solos endspeaker
I thought it was Rhine?
TN3 is rhine
got confused because people mentioned sui squad for tn3.
My TN3 spec squad was funny
irony, in wave 2 of TN-2, they actually give you the crest so you can deploy your op on it
isnt there an afk guide of this also 
yes she is

this is a peak clip
I think GG is doing it too if there's no other valid targets on the map 
Yeah i noticed the last gelato on zaroo always in our side when using her. Meanwhile its red in other acc
- i still have skill issue but slightly less
- no, a military strategist ain’t proving P!=NP anytime soon
(at least I’m assuming that’s what’s being referenced anyway)
yes it is referencing P=NP
as a math major i almost spat out my water when i saw that was an actual voiceline
we need more stages like this in the future
joyce-tier joke
Not the best pic but yeah GG does it too
GG I TOLD U JUST SHOT THOSE GUYS WE ARE IN WAVE 2 LMAO
Overcharge TfN buff + Amiya talent
Damn
As far as their offensive capabilities go, Carnelian S3 has more DPS than Lin S3 but Lin's ability to cancel her skill and her second talent greatly improving her cycle make her a lot more versatile. It doesn't make sense to compare any of the other skills since they're all very different in utility but it's worth mentioning that Carnelian S2 is still useful if you can't block for some reason. For Casterknights specifically S2 is her most commonly used skill.
As for their defensive capabilities even though they're both Phalanx Casters they have different use cases for tanking damage due to the nature of their survivability. Carnelian is more suited to tanking large amounts of damage (e.g. DBS fireballs) because of her heal and 3-4k HP on skill activation whereas Lin lives and dies by her shield. The former is very niche and Lin's talent in practice negating most sources of damage is generally a lot more useful.
TLDR Lin is still better than Carnelian in Casterknights
so can boss eat those 
ofc
Alr thx.
considering building Carne for fun tbh, how are her modules? Heard both weren’t too good?
I can't really comment on her second module since I'm not a CN player but her current module probably isn't something a normal player cares about
Second one providing miniscule cycle and damage improvements is probably more useful in theory but still questionable
So skip for now. Alr. 
dude will die anyway, in both normal and cm
still cring
this is the old setup
it still works but the problem is the robocop won't get moved much
does eun have her mod
but pretty sure it won't work
Hailo naga
no



tbh just do sth stupid like phantom S3
I think the dps of the robocop and the square bot is higher than the healing and hp I have
if you kill the push bot, how can I loop the ball lol
phantom or sth
we only have phantom as a pusher smh
or have someone with quirky range
the guys have to walk the long way round so phantom should rdp in time
very surprised cs major here lmao
i should also say i burned a crazy amount of sanity doing the stage for real even after the practice clear because i somehow didn't realize magister explosions aren't 2 tile range (which means there's a completely safe tile, which would've trivialized half the level)
oh wait i'm stupid, pretty sure phantom and his clone auto fast enough to loop the balls
it's free af
as long as you auto fast enough and delay the robocop a bit he'll just get stuck at the top, unable to hit either of the ball pushers
lmao what was i cooking
Dusk is based.
as another math major, I also showed all my friends that Ptilopsis quote lmao
have degen?
dont think ray is enough to deal with galio
this shit is only drone
ines reed and ray is enough
I'd take that stage
pov: it's not casual drone


