strategy

[spark sinew]

yeah you picked like two worst ops to leave at m1

and then say "exu bad"

[deft badger]

even that m3 isn't going to change much

btw i am trying to prove my self wrong have i asked u past week for ur exu i did

didn't change much..

[spark sinew]

idt you did ask for exu

but also she's more of a team op than solo carry

so if you're using the operator not to their full potential (read:wrong) they would feel meh

like using suzu s3 and then your only dps is offskill SA

bad damage amplifier, operator is trash

[deft badger]

full potential, bring warf for her, bring shamare, if u can add skalter on top of that so that she does dmg xD

ah yes suzu or gnosis then u have a optimal environment for her

[tepid sigil]

Even yato 2* can be optimal at that point

[spark sinew]

if you want a big af overkill yes

[tall cairn]

Untrue. Yato 2* is most optimal with glory pack.

[tepid sigil]

Damn so true

[spark sinew]

doesn't change the fact that she works without most of those

or that your assessment of her is just biased

[deft badger]

but true add that and let just yato do it 😄

[spark sinew]

go go

use yato on IC boss

[deft badger]

now he is going to say, that i wasn't bothered to m3 yato s1 but am bothered to do exu s3m3

[spark sinew]

you did m6 yato in worst way possible yes

[deft badger]

she going to be m9 xD

[spark sinew]

(for someone who is as allergic to using buff comps as you)

[deft badger]

look i am even going to do it now for u

let me just fix this

[spark sinew]

you can, but i really don't care

i know you won't use it past the couple tries

🛌

[deft badger]

here we go ❤️

[spark sinew]

i'll pretend i don't see you using texalter to train s3m1

[deft badger]

i don't know to read... switched for saga

[foggy grove]

i used phantom to train both frd and end up ditching both

[spark sinew]

are skill levels and modules accurate (only fia is moduled?)

[vernal lion]

Dolly: weight 3
also Dolly:

[sly drift]

You lack debuffer.

[foggy grove]

does he really need one tho?

[spark sinew]

doesn't look like it
although a slower would make it a bit easier

[sly drift]

Less braincells needed if he use one

[foggy grove]

shred the boss shield with chetto or exu and some bottles

press mlynar skill

[glass monolith]

Same with skateboards. Thanks god at least they got weight 3 to trigger Totter extra damage to fat

[foggy grove]

add ntr to be extra sure

[spark sinew]

like i actually see the branch with gg and eyja s2

because it's still enough damage

[tropic perch]

I need help to beat 2-10

[spark sinew]

but yeah with sl7 i'm not sure if any of those ops actually hold left by themselves/kill tornadoes by themselves

[vernal lion]

post your squad

[spark sinew]

i know eben almost solo holds left with investment, but sl7 lvl90 trips me. I'm assuming it's just batch setting so he's not actually 90?

[tall cairn]

Solo holds where?

[vernal lion]

looks good enough

[spark sinew]

s-5

[vernal lion]

what is your main issue?

[tall cairn]

Which skill?

S2?

[tropic perch]

The trouble i got With the drone defense and the élite mage

[spark sinew]

good question ask that casterknight player that visited yesterday

[vernal lion]

the elite mage can be solo-ed by a dreadnought

[deft badger]

i don't even have someone that could train it faster then 30%

[vernal lion]

this is E0 clear btw

[spark sinew]

^
i assume s3 though

[spark sinew]

is that why you used saga

[tall cairn]

Oh left.

Prolly yeah he does.

[tall cairn]

even Eyja s2 almost soloes left.

[spark sinew]

irenelessbehaviour

[tall cairn]

skill issue.

[vernal lion]

max Eyja s2 can solo left lane btw

and when I say max, it means it

[tall cairn]

Pot gated.

[spark sinew]

wow

[vernal lion]

we need a mystic caster with afk skill instead of Eben s2 bruh

[tall cairn]

Yeah it’s pretty huge diff. Waiting for delta atm before bringing him out for base knights.

[spark sinew]

it's almost 1.5 times the difference at 0 res

[tall cairn]

Elem res gonna lower that number.

[spark sinew]

well so far it's still 0

[vernal lion]

chap 14 will have it, trust

[spark sinew]

but even then it won't lower it that much but no aoe can make the other mod still better

[tall cairn]

Very true. The other mods just suck.

[tall cairn]

Joever.

[void terrace]

Damn bosses gonna have triple resist with 4k defence, 70 res and now Elem resist?

What is this brave frontier?

T-T

[tall cairn]

Elem resist just targets a certain few ops.

[void terrace]

Ikr

It's just like levitate resist

[next frost]

Is this squad good enough for SL-S-5?

[tall cairn]

Looks overkill, yes.

[next frost]

Dolly kept killing my right side laneholder

[vernal lion]

Dolly, or the tornado sheep?

because I'm pretty sure you have Mlynar taunt that

[spark sinew]

what's surtr for

[vernal lion]

panic button

[next frost]

Black sheep aka. Big guy

[tall cairn]

You have Texas2 for that.

[spark sinew]

they have 3 frd
i would borrow like GG

[tall cairn]

And Gravel.

[spark sinew]

saria on the left stalls big sheep fine

you have gravel to bait small sheeps that are thrown (because otherwise gravel is a waste of slot with mly anyway)

[vernal lion]

fun fact, you just need a defender, a pusher and a aoe caster for left lane

[tropic perch]

I need a build for 2-10 and theres my operators

[tall cairn]

Place white smoke under your right laneholder and place them just 1 tile behind the fountain.

[next frost]

Does Weedy S2 work?

[vernal lion]

yes, when full charge

[spark sinew]

put mountain facing top ^

make him break the bottle, done

[vernal lion]

as I said, a defender, a pusher and a caster

[tall cairn]

[spark sinew]

just bait/kill tornadoes

if you're doing pusher/puller strat, just cut gravel

[vernal lion]

pusher behind defender to push back the sheep on the same tile the defender on

[ivory nimbus]

Is investing in Robin worth it?

Her kit seems very fun.

[vernal lion]

yes, but that is like 2 years ago

new events won't be fun

[ivory nimbus]

Meh, that's why I have my main rotation ops to clear them out. Call this a side project, if you will.

[weak gazelle]

i have her m6 and to me its really fun
udk about yours, mainly about playing with bind
while push use case more rare for me

[ivory nimbus]

I haven't got her yet. I've pretty much cleared out most of the event shop, so that's why I'm blitzing through the side stories right now.

[spark sinew]

she's completely and utterly outclassed by dorothy

[ivory nimbus]

And I skipped her, yes.

[spark sinew]

mines being single target sucks

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WenG-4qYFAk&ab_channel=Shoyuu

[ivory nimbus]

So Robin is my alternative.

[spark sinew]

honestly doesn't matter too much, you probably won't use robin

wait aren't you a very new player

[weak gazelle]

dont treat it as alternative dorothy
she far below her

[ivory nimbus]

Yes, and if raising Robin will halt my account progression too much, I'll just shelves it for later.

[weak gazelle]

the only thing robin do is crowd control and thats it

while dorothy can do that too with huge damage

[spark sinew]

the main thing i hated after using dorothy and then swapping back to robin is the lack of aoe

although the fact that even trash enemies take like 2-3 mines minimum also sucks and exacerbates the issue

[weak gazelle]

that and one last thing
raising 5* is expensive

[spark sinew]

also if you're new, robin's shift skill is basically unplayable without m3

[vernal lion]

Robin is only fun when you raise other pusher/puller too

[ivory nimbus]

Alright, guess she'll be a late game project then.

[void terrace]

Deeeeeefinitely

Focus on getting stuff that can get you thru the event

[ivory nimbus]

And goddamn, imagine raising Insider cause of the lack of good Markman, then Flatinum dropped right on my doorstep on recruitment out of nowhere.

[vernal lion]

actually Robin s2 is very good for chap 2 bruh

[weak gazelle]

hmm
that good enough tho, insider will cover marksman duty just fine

[foggy grove]

it's not like flatinum that much better if at all

[spark sinew]

imagine missing krooster
insider should be more useful early-ish anyway

[weak gazelle]

myself prefer plat over insider simply because i have her p6 and extra range really awesome
but that doesnt justify plat over insider anyway

[spark sinew]

plat suffers for not being able to cover the stuff that you use marksmen early on

[weak gazelle]

for first 60 sec yeah
that long ass gap

[ivory nimbus]

Let's not mentioned the fact that she's one of my first 5 star during first launched, and it's heavy nostalgia speaking here.

[weak gazelle]

well nothing wrong using any 5* sniper as long its not a kid named Sesa

[south bone]

[spark sinew]

brb using aosta and executor

[ivory nimbus]

Sesa who? The bloke that's high out of their mind over in that backalley with Aak's new drug?

[vernal lion]

kinda miss these stages tho

it will never be back again

[void terrace]

Aak pennance Chen mod3 has a pretty interesting conbo

Just nicely fills pennance skill the moment aak skill comes up

Only about 15s downtime

With silence alter and skadi penenace can successfully tank h11 4 steam knight

I know it could be done with easier ops but

Enemity rocks

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9NvlVAI9hE&ab_channel=khant

[deft badger]

sl-s-5 hardest ever?

[vernal lion]

boss itself is already a stat check tho

[deft badger]

don't know actually but i didn't feel overwhelmed at all or challenged

[vernal lion]

well it will be hard if you don't use the crate and the geyser

[void terrace]

*most gimmicky event stage

Oh wait that goes to hortus

Fk hortus

[foggy grove]

have good accs
didn't feel overwhelmed

no shit sherlock

[void terrace]

I mean the stage is just intimidating caus ops randomly get one shot if you are not careful

[foggy grove]

[vernal lion]

HE is just chap 8 on steroid

[void terrace]

Yeah holy dhit

Don't remind me about of chap 8

H8-4

Tallulah fireballs

[vernal lion]

civ in ch8 you don't care and they won't die anyway, except enemy killed them

but civ in HE is died because of emotional damage

[void terrace]

In hortus they actively seek sepuku

Deadass running into holes

[deft badger]

i want more of this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiYRZb8n-TQ&ab_channel=ItsukaiGaming

[foggy grove]

that thing is easier tho

[deft badger]

it easy with a plan, sl-s-5 went in without a plan did it 3rd try
CW-s-4 took me 1-2 hours to figure out

[spark sinew]

[dark glade]

[void terrace]

What squad ya uses 0_o

[deft badger]

bro i didn't and i bet u didn't as well not even flexing or something like that i consider a boss trash when i can just press skill brain afk and destroy it

[vernal lion]

what the balls do to a man belike

[deft badger]

which i was able to do with dolly

[scarlet mortar]

the next summer event really should just give the boss invuln unless you deal with mechanics huh

[void terrace]

Cough cough cression ball thingy

[scarlet mortar]

kristen got close with 99.9% DR

[vernal lion]

tbh tho, you have like 30 minutes before Kristen went away to bluebox tho

[scarlet mortar]

[vernal lion]

CW-S-4 is just a puzzle

[glass monolith]

Or you know. 27 hours if you have e0 1 Erato

[void terrace]

Half my squad is pot 3 and above

[tepid sigil]

Well, he said it's easy we shall believe it

[void terrace]

I still struggled caus dumb

[scarlet mortar]

CW-S-4 also dies if you throw 12 6*s at it tbh

[void terrace]

Ok not half lemme xount

[deft badger]

true, but i did have fun dealing with the balls and finding my way to the end
dolly is just brt brt done cya next event pls

[scarlet mortar]

just jumpscare the ranged mechs harder

[vernal lion]

22 hours btw

[void terrace]

Permeant red ice-cream shop

[glass monolith]

Lag your device to make it 27 hours

[void terrace]

0.5 speed

[deft badger]

yes and it was nice having something like that

[scarlet mortar]

tbh CW-S-4 did have one very unorthodox impressive clear

[vernal lion]

tbh boss gimmick with DR and balls to not let you use brute force,
even if you use did brute force completely, you will get punish because of balls explosion without silencing Kristen

[scarlet mortar]

did y'all see the kristen% speedrun

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZ6dA0rRXk&ab_channel=Shoyuu

[dark glade]

Kristen is far easier because stage -weight

[vernal lion]

yea

[dark glade]

And kristen can be stalled forever with just gummy

And she spin around so much that you can destroy enough balls to stall her again

[spark sinew]

that's wild because CW is miles easier

but yeah you probably AH both of them

it might be hard if you try to kill 2 gundams naturally

[deft badger]

yes, but that puzzle event was more a brain thing less a op oriented event + interesting
which i welcome over stat check events where someone who is new kills his brain cells at trying to finish it

[scarlet mortar]

nah not that one

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1Kg4y1V7nT

[vernal lion]

ah yes, the chinese private social network

[scarlet mortar]

eben 2shot

[glass monolith]

If it is private, why i can access it

[scarlet mortar]

if your house is private property why can i access it

[void terrace]

You know what I need

A way to make ho'ol work

[vernal lion]

I question that why does she only proc 1 ball

[scarlet mortar]

she can't proc moving balls

[spark sinew]

use her as bootleg debatable ange to push izumik

idk i tried her and was really disappointed in skills

[vernal lion]

that's why

[void terrace]

Is there a hole that stage?

[scarlet mortar]

the strat abused mos's slow to keep almost all the balls suspended

[spark sinew]

i thought it was maybe the default "operator bad" talk but no

[void terrace]

She actually sucks so bad

Only use I have for her now is split boxing enemies between 2 tornados

For 960% atk multiplier on single enemy

[spark sinew]

is that a lot

[void terrace]

I mean

In theory yes but atk interval increase

I mean it deals good DMG but it's a pain and has so many conditons

[scarlet mortar]

there's no speedrun timer but that's probs what, 15s?

to kill kristen

it's real silly how much effort went into that

[void terrace]

Wait dosent Shu make weedy push op? Weedy does true DMG per tile right, and with Shu you are no longer limited by dist Infront of jer

[scarlet mortar]

eh no

the ones who get flung the furthest are usually trash mobs

[void terrace]

True

But in high risk situations trashmobs get annoying fast

[deft badger]

mizuki, eben, sail or fia?

[scarlet mortar]

not like we still have CC-level scaling

[vernal lion]

17 sec

[spark sinew]

have you seen weedys s3 damage

[void terrace]

Sail

Then fia

[spark sinew]

spoilers, it's bad

[ivory nimbus]

That new guy is me, playing SL.

[void terrace]

Sail is the only one with actual value. Fia is just powerful but is very placement dependent

[spark sinew]

range was never the problem for s3

[void terrace]

Eben is waiting on delta mod and mizuki if you like his events and armpits

That's about it

[spark sinew]

i would actually say mizuki into sail

skip the rest

[void terrace]

Interesting

Why mizuki tho?

[deft badger]

well this are my options... can do one keep rest for typhone if they decide to launch her soon

[void terrace]

I mean manticore does the job at lower cost

[scarlet mortar]

none will carry you, is this for progression or

[void terrace]

Raise mule

[spark sinew]

kinda same "niche" as fia (afk anni slave) but he also has crowd control applications

and makes your base better

[void terrace]

Muel is ridiculously good if you have strong ops

[scarlet mortar]

mizuki has better positioning ability tbh

[spark sinew]

sail is just good s3 but ik how UnknownM okays so i would rec afk op before her

[scarlet mortar]

i'd pick him out of those four

[void terrace]

Hmm true

[spark sinew]

yeah i like him better if we compare to fia

[void terrace]

I liked fias raw consistent DMG on s2

[scarlet mortar]

sail is a buffer so eh

[void terrace]

But I guess mizu provides that

Would still say raise muelsyes tho

She's by far the best unit there

[spark sinew]

shamare

[deft badger]

i will probably never use mumu

[void terrace]

Really?

[spark sinew]

mumu is a good vang but like

[void terrace]

She's my standard vanguard

[spark sinew]

she doesn't fit into flagpipe

and she's still below ines

[void terrace]

Only vanguard with block 3 and proper laneholding

[spark sinew]

so she's in a really weird spot

[void terrace]

My standard vanguards are bagpipe Ines mumu

Like she's actually really good for her S3 ranged mode

[spark sinew]

you can cut bag probably and you won't notice the diff

[void terrace]

She can provide consistent bait

3 block at minimum

[deft badger]

i am still going with myrtle lol

[void terrace]

15s of ranged bind

A looooot of arts dmg

[vernal lion]

mumu, when you use all short-ranged melee or ranged op belike

[void terrace]

If your going with eyja

[deft badger]

well that's something i tought about do mumu because i don't really have some cheap ranged ops like snipers

[void terrace]

If you use Andrea with her you get 3 2k hp clones sitting in lane

She can hold her own for a long time

[void terrace]

Just use eyja with her

[deft badger]

exu which i don't wanna use

[void terrace]

The arts dmg is very worth

[deft badger]

eyja mumu good combo?

[void terrace]

It's basically 5 4 star casters

If you maximise

[void terrace]

Her clones copy DMG type

So arts naturally benefits her. Caus your basically taking a core caster and multiplying their atk speed by 5

[spark sinew]

only on skill

[void terrace]

For reference this deals more DMG than ceobe S2 m3

Without her passive

[spark sinew]

and for 5 targets in very limited range

[void terrace]

Clones last 25s

[void terrace]

True

[deft badger]

btw hauck am i ever going to need shamare

[spark sinew]

only main clone divides

[deft badger]

with my rooster

[spark sinew]

you? maybe not

[void terrace]

But when holding lanes having the option to just bloat up the lane and front line

[deft badger]

that's why i stoped building her

[void terrace]

Is just so good

[spark sinew]

but i would 100% rec shamare here because it's the best choice

[void terrace]

Yeah agreed

Shame neuters bosses

[spark sinew]

because

1. she's still fairly unique op
2. because of 1, you want to raise her early on to get more stonks from base

[void terrace]

Muel is more of a balance op. Lane holding, crowd control and dp gen in one neat package

[spark sinew]

and don't even try to tell me your base is good enough

you don't even have lmd to craft mats for qb s3_m2_

[deft badger]

u know its not so not even trying lol

[spark sinew]

that's how broke you are

[deft badger]

but thats a fair point probably finish then shamara and do mumu

i have lmd and xp to do anyway

[dark glade]

I always forget what shamare base combo is

I think i alr ask this 4-5 times

[void terrace]

Shame bibieak teq

[tall cairn]

Smh Zee.

[dark glade]

Oh riiighhht

The bibeak that i will get in 6 months

She need e2 too doesnt she

[void terrace]

Kafka works tooo

[tall cairn]

No need e2.

[void terrace]

Uhh E1 works but less good

[tall cairn]

It’s e0 or e2.

[deft badger]

i don't even have bibeak teq raised 😄

[tall cairn]

Don’t even need Teq or Bibeak raised.

[void terrace]

Saem

[vernal lion]

it's Tailoring skill

[deft badger]

they are for trading post, i am kinder fine when it comes to trading post

i am lacking factory ops

[spark sinew]

inb4 40k lmd/day

[deft badger]

bro they don't even have gold to sell

xD

that's how f- my production is

[vernal lion]

POV: it's Proviso fault

[tall cairn]

Drone gold then.

[deft badger]

is what i am doing

gave up a long time ago on base..

trading post is doing 50k+
but production is at 35k+ if i don't use drones lol

[tall cairn]

No wonder. He’s 243.

[void terrace]

I need one more keraj op

[tall cairn]

Convert to 252.

[void terrace]

For swire silverash Matterhorn

Jae courier +1

[spark sinew]

he's non maxed dorms 243

[tall cairn]

[spark sinew]

why'd you use swire without jaye

do you mean degen

[vernal lion]

you can still convert 243 to 252, but it won't be any good much

[void terrace]

Wait what does she work that way

No I separated them out

Then gnosis is in control

[tall cairn]

Weakest 252 > strongest 243.

[void terrace]

Reeeeealy?

Hmm

Lemme check

[tall cairn]

Can’t go wrong with an extra factory.

[void terrace]

Hmmm but doesn't the power decrease make it slower?

[tall cairn]

Power doesn’t affect prod tho.

[void terrace]

What does it affect?

[glass monolith]

That elevator system is... Something

[tall cairn]

More PP just means more drones.

Which means nothing compared to an extra factory.

[void terrace]

Time to destroy my office

I never use it

[vernal lion]

yea you get like 100 drones every 12hr or smth

[tall cairn]

Right side not downgradeable.

[void terrace]

Shag

Pain

[tall cairn]

You’ll just have to become a MR 252.

Which is still better than a 243.

Most people in #r-i-i-c are MR 252. You can trust their judgment.

[void terrace]

What does lower factory level do?

[ivory nimbus]

252?

[deft badger]

400 24hours

[ivory nimbus]

Uh... what's that?

[vernal lion]

lower the number of op, electricity consume, and capacity of product

[spark sinew]

oh no, new player with a ruined base

[tall cairn]

[void terrace]

Damn

Whelp fk it I'm lazy to change my base T-T

[vernal lion]

I'm fine with base tbh

[void terrace]

Have no other 6 stars I want to raise at the moment anyways

[vernal lion]

I'm just, sometimes I pumped all my LMD and EXP way too fast

it's literally not my issue

[ivory nimbus]

[vernal lion]

bruh

[tall cairn]

Isn’t that Lumen.

[spark sinew]

it is

[ivory nimbus]

Bruh, what is that?

[tall cairn]

Best aoe dorm op in the game.

[glass monolith]

Dude literally hosts LAN party by stealing our energy

[deft badger]

hahahaha

[tall cairn]

Problem with this is that lvl 1 dorms can handle all your rotation and crafting usage, so dorm ops aren’t too useful.

Unless you miss your rotations.

But maxed dorms it’s even less of an issue.

[spark sinew]

yeah 6 pp lumen is probably never needed because of the implication

and i honestly question 5pp lumen in non15 slot

[tall cairn]

Lumen seems pretty questionable even in 15slot because even they might prefer having that extra dorm space.

[spark sinew]

well mostly thinking how dead lancet sucks in lvl2 factory but yeah
dorm constraints might be a hassle

since that's the only way to get 5pp lumen on 252

[amber hedge]

no, they are not accurate. I managed to clear it now. thanks anw hehe

[spark sinew]

figured

good job

[safe knoll]

is there a good list somewhere of all of the ops that do something while in squad without needing to be deployed? I'm talking people like texas, bagpipe and silverash

[scarlet mortar]

there's eyja, schwarz, AH gang, nian, hoshi? off the top of my head

idr if gamepress has that as a filter

if all fails check afk records on arkrec ig

[vernal lion]

#strategy message

btw this is kinda old

there's some new op and new mod with passive effect

[scarlet mortar]

yh eyja and schwarz have their deployed condition lifted

idr abt hoshi

horn definitely didn't though

[vernal lion]

Horn need to be deployed tho

[scarlet mortar]

yh i said that

[vernal lion]

what is yh

[scarlet mortar]

yeah

[glass monolith]

WAIT ANGELINA GIVE EFFECT WITHOUT DEPLOYMENT?

[scarlet mortar]

wrong op

[vernal lion]

oops

[safe knoll]

thanks!

[glass monolith]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

New knowledge is obtained

[safe knoll]

really? I asked about it here yesterday and somebody said the opposite

[vernal lion]

I need to check prts

[scarlet mortar]

unobtain it

[vernal lion]

ok they really redo the test

so she needs to be deployed

I will recheck all passive effects now

[turbid badge]

newb

yes while present

[glass monolith]

New fake news has been ejected from database

[past lance]

hiii stuck on 3 starring 4-4 cause the yt tutorials tell me to place shaw to push crownslayer through the roadblock but she just breaks it guessing they updated the mechanics of the roadblocks</3

[cosmic thicket]

should still be the same

if you're pointing shaw into the roadblock

[past lance]

i am, dont know what im doing wrong

[glass monolith]

Skill level?

Something before shaw so boss don't dash/dash differently?

Idea is boss pathing is dumb and instead dashing to left where she goes she will dash down inside roadblock and then Shaw skill send her flying

And if boss is HE F you i am not editing

[past lance]

2, guess that mightve been the problem

[turbid badge]

increase

[glass monolith]

need at least 4 i think

[turbid badge]

it to when it increaees psh force

[past lance]

ohh, thank you

makes a lot more sense now

[vernal lion]

@safe knoll
(Updated: 2024)
Operators (E1 at least, some require E2 and mod) who have talent to give buff without deploying:

1. SilverAsh: All units (including summon) gain reduced redeployment time
2. Skadi: All [Abyssal Hunters] Operators gain ATK buff (and additional HP buff with modY lv.2-3)
3. Rosa: All [Ursus Student Self-Governing Group] Operators gain ATK buff
4. Andreana: All [Abyssal Hunters] Operators gain Attack Speed buff
5. Specter the Unchained: All [Abyssal Hunters] Operators gain Max HP buff (and additionally increases SP Auto Recovery rate with modY lv.2-3)
6. Nian: All [Defender] Operators gain Max HP buff
7. Shu: When there are four [Sui] Operators in the squad, all operators gain ATK buff and recovers 1 SP every 4 seconds
8. Schwarz (modX lv.2-3): When Schwarz and at least one more [Sniper] Operator are in the squad, all [Sniper] Operators gain ATK buff
9. Eyjafjalla (modX lv.2-3): All [Caster] Operators gain ATK buff
10. Bagpipe: All [Vanguard] Operators gain some initial SP
11. Texas: Obtain some additional Initial DP on battle start
12. Zima: Reduce deployment cost of all [Vanguard] Operators in the same team by 1
13. Sussurro: Increases healing effects on all Operators with DP Cost no more than 10
14. Gravel: All Operators that cost 10 or less DP gain DEF buff

Any operator that is NOT listed here means they need to DEPLOY (or apply mod) to activate talent

[spark sinew]

no mod2 eyja/black?

[vernal lion]

ah yes, forgot about mod

[waxen swan]

Now do it again

[vernal lion]

already fixed it

[glass monolith]

Who is "/black" Haucki mentioned

[vernal lion]

Idk

[waxen swan]

Black knight?

[vernal lion]

CN doesn't has mod, what do you expect?

[waxen swan]

What does this mean

[glass monolith]

Blacknight don't have module and black knight (degen) module doesn't affect allies, wtf?

[spark sinew]

schwarz

her name is hard to type, ok

🛌

[glass monolith]

Can relate, my attempts to remember names quit on CN/JP/German names

[deft badger]

black

[turbid badge]

isnt there also stuff like sussuro

just use the gp

its good

[latent anvil]

teta pro

eyhavitskaa or harpoon first

[deft badger]

what do i m3 on mumu?

[spark sinew]

||wrong channel for that||
s3

rude af

[deft badger]

never 😄

which t3 mats does the next event even drop

[glass monolith]

Fuck around and find out Wait literally 2.5 days?

[deft badger]

grindstone devices?

[spark sinew]

i do wonder if i should m6 her but idr when i even saw her being used at all her s2 being used

[gray stone]

HS gimmick is so easy wtf

It's so unga bunga compared to shits like RS

[glass monolith]

Who/What is HS? (Excluding RNG based card game by FuckUp Activision)

[vernal lion]

1 stage, 6 mod missions

[gray stone]

Here A People Sows

[vernal lion]

Here A People Sorrows

[spark sinew]

do you have ines on cn?

[gray stone]

Yes

pretty funny

I'm already rarity abusing

on my 4 months old account

[glass monolith]

Well it is rarity abuse knights after all

And with Silvergun and other 4* only players existing i can say using 4* is already rarity abuse

[spark sinew]

she works to deastealth those enemies right

[gray stone]

yup
This is basically the gameplay

[spark sinew]

i wonder how long until we have enemies that ines can't reveal

[gray stone]

Normal enemies

[spark sinew]

it's pretty stupid how strong she is because HG keeps printing enemies like that

[deft badger]

invincible till blocked

[gray stone]

Probably Lil Buddies

Fluffy Buddies I meant

[spark sinew]

yeah i meant like

[deft badger]

gavi event actually that big that we are getting 37

[spark sinew]

enemies like in HS but literally can only be revealed by blocking

[deft badger]

and how is Minimalist?

[spark sinew]

lol

[deft badger]

good or not good 😄

[gray stone]

this shit is really funny

they are also the first enemy to have negative taunt I think?

[glass monolith]

Missed chance for another "E-" joke

[vernal lion]

enemy but it's ally, can't attack it but it will attack your op

actually...

this one

[tidal sedge]

WD drones have negative taunt

[gray stone]

[vernal lion]

yea, tactical drone has -1 taunt

[tidal sedge]

As do croc champions when blocked

OD infiltrators too when their hologram is active

[gray stone]

huh

The flies get shit on by anything AoE

[turbid badge]

ok learning the mechsnics making this easy

wizard sheep not that scary

[spark sinew]

can gladiia hold left side on cn anni

[turbid badge]

i just have to put a white tile under them to kill them fast or white tile on my ops

[vernal lion]

you know what is scary?

a bunch of this

[turbid badge]

thats ez

We cheese it

[spark sinew]

eh just use ng/stainless

wait wtf

you can click "back" button on the phone and you can skip the tutorial lines?

[vernal lion]

yes

also, I think they should make enemy paradox

[turbid badge]

nobi

[vernal lion]

wait you can silence this

[turbid badge]

now sl ex 5 done cm

yay

mlynar is Op

suzu carry

[rain leaf]

how do i beat sl-8 as low level?

[deft badger]

squad?

[spark sinew]

oh...those enemies gain invis when they're in polluted water

[deft badger]

if its e1 only ask hauck he knows better....

[spark sinew]

that's why they get visible on dams

i know mechanics but god knows i have no idea how to play e1 only

[vernal lion]

WTF, you can silence them too?

[deft badger]

don't know why people don't post squad while asking for help..

u made it to s5 so u probably know all the mechanics we do xD

maybe u know even more then i do lol

[glass monolith]

Because before this event solution was:
Have e2
Friend support Ling

[vernal lion]

just Aak and Mlynar

[deft badger]

now have e2 mlynar and friend e2 ling 😛

[glass monolith]

Pozy have wolf advantage against sheep

[spark sinew]

a lot of stuff just solo holds right side with caveats

[deft badger]

pozy is a wolf?

[cyan gorge]

Mlynar and GG duo 80% of the stage

[vernal lion]

yes she is

[spark sinew]

no blocking the middle part is a good idea

[deft badger]

i bet they regret asking lol

[turbid badge]

Put white stuff under mlynar regularly

this is so he doesnt die to sheep

witch sheep

i put him kinda close so he can spawncamp witch sheep

[deft badger]

maybe he is killing sheep on spawn?

[spark sinew]

looks fine is this siege s1m3

[turbid badge]

lol

[spark sinew]

mountain/any reapers raised?

[turbid badge]

yeah right side

if u have reaper

u can hold u just need to kill the grey smokey sheep that runfast

cuz white stuff gonna be there forever

oh use mountain

[deft badger]

can't kal hold right?

[turbid badge]

do u really want to use 2 slots

when u can just use one

[deft badger]

i just want to know if she can dude 😄

[turbid badge]

do u bait the ggrey sheep

[deft badger]

theoretically she can if u get rid of casters

[spark sinew]

use mountain

i assume pluma is s1m1 which is ehhh

[turbid badge]

face miuntain like this

he will break a bottle

up there

than his tile will be white

[spark sinew]

we have is4 ed2 boss at home

[turbid badge]

u need to bait the grey smoke guys tho or he just eats mountain up

[supple mountain]

why are there rats in arknights

[turbid badge]

theres a whole rat race

[spark sinew]

ask rat king

[deft badger]

clouds..

[supple mountain]

why

[vernal lion]

Click, Lin, etc... are rat too

[turbid badge]

my brains overloading

[deft badger]

and how is blaze module?

still didn't spend lmd on it

[orchid talon]

It feels pretty good, extra attack and atk speed can’t go wrong haha

Synergies well with her s2 so

[deft badger]

i expected she is going to go nuts with it

[orchid talon]

Still has the issues of having to keep her alive, but she clears enemies more haha

[spark sinew]

it's a very good module but it's for blaze

[orchid talon]

Afknights ultimate endgoal for braindead play tho

Btw any math people in here? Wondering how the overall healing output (not including elemental damage) is for eyjaberry (s1m3) vs nightingale is

[spark sinew]

vs 1 2 3 targets?

[orchid talon]

Let’s say 3 targets

[deft badger]

waiting to see if she outheals ng on 3

but my bet is yes 🙂

[deft badger]

that's one

[orchid talon]

Yeah makes sense for NG to be a lot lower at 1 target

I guess you just triple NG and double eyja?

[spark sinew]

you don't bring ng for heals

you bring her for arts mitigation/cages or both

[gray stone]

NG loses against Ptilo if you want to add targets

[spark sinew]

it shouldn't even be close yeah

[vernal lion]

NG only wins about art mitigation

[spark sinew]

boss is such a joke

he doesn't even get his stats back during second phase does he

[vernal lion]

just wait for S stage

[spark sinew]

i mean if it's the same gimmick

you just bonk him a little and then slap with mountain

[vernal lion]

now, imagine that CM is "increasing ATK to x3" or "no longer losing stat when attacked in p1"

that should be fun ngl

[turbid badge]

who

shu boss?

[vernal lion]

yea

[spark sinew]

did dusk's or nian's events have hit count gimmicks

like invitation to wine having enemies that need X hits for example

dusk's didn't i think, but idr what was nian's at all

[tidal sedge]

Nian's was mini event

So no dedicated enemy set.

[spark sinew]

After Dolly being "immune" to DoT cheese, it's so weird that they went back to the boss in Shu event

so like archetto/mly/typhon/maga?

[tidal sedge]

Yes

The only stages I remember from it was a stage with a lot of aerial enemies + ch 5 crossbows and a stage with yeti squad enemies with no ranged/melee tile restrictions

[flat sapphire]

DoT cheese?

[tidal sedge]

DoT counting as hits for hit-count based effects

[tropic valve]

so Exu good once again?

[vernal lion]

yes

[flat sapphire]

Oh for the hit count shit. Right

[spark sinew]

considering event seems to shill reed

idk you just reed s3 for both mosquitos and the boss

[flat sapphire]

Reed s2 has rly good hit count too

[spark sinew]

yes but

[vernal lion]

actually, those are a joke

[spark sinew]

it's really funny to s3 these

[vernal lion]

chain caster love it

the idea is those enemy will attach to the host that can't attack enemy

[flat sapphire]

Funni cheeto s2

[vernal lion]

so the more they still stack on, the easier that op will get killed

I think they stack unlimited to an op

[flat sapphire]

Can u kill them when they attach?

[vernal lion]

yes

[spark sinew]

you can? how

[flat sapphire]

So reed s2 works anyway

[vernal lion]

yes lol

you can kill them

even when they attached your op

[spark sinew]

yeah i'm asking how

is it melee op attack only

[vernal lion]

no

[flat sapphire]

Don't they just like float over the op like drones?

[vernal lion]

yea

[flat sapphire]

[spark sinew]

stage was such a joke i didn't notice

[flat sapphire]

Wait does reed s2 even hit flying

[scarlet fulcrum]

The ball no, her atk yes

[vernal lion]

[flat sapphire]

Dam thought the healing from a shitload of those things woulda been funny

[scarlet fulcrum]

[flat sapphire]

[spark sinew]

finally a use for crushers

[flat sapphire]

Imagine if spec2 doll can hit flying

Ling s3 wouldn't work either huh

[vernal lion]

wdym it's not worked lol?

[flat sapphire]

Did it hit flying?

[glass monolith]

Oh no, what i'm gonna do (places Lin near red boxes and leave)

[vernal lion]

it attach to your op bruh

[spark sinew]

~~do you know what they do minus, cause i don't ~~

are they debuff only enemies

[vernal lion]

is your op an aerial unit

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u meant spalter doll yes

[flat sapphire]

I asked if they just float over the op like drones and naga said yes so i assumed u just hit them like u do drones

I misunderstood ig

[vernal lion]

if it's still flying, then it's an aerial enemy,
but when it attaches to your op, it's ground enemy

[flat sapphire]

So all of those things i mentioned works

Cool

[scarlet fulcrum]

Truly logical

[vernal lion]

mosquito logic

[flat sapphire]

I mean i did ask if they just float and was told yes so i don't think I'm at fault here but w/e

[small oar]

I normally come on this server to meme but i was wondering is their any way to do a fast deplyment build/setup i rn how ines, progect and surti for heli drops in my build i just want to know if i can get or make this better

[spark sinew]

bagpipe+flags

then deploy the rest of your ops

[small oar]

i have lack of flag bearers and mostly jsut dont want flag bearers

ill take a picture 1 second

[spark sinew]

if you're asking for fast redeploys specifically, you shouldn't have too many of them anyway

[flat sapphire]

Are u saying u want to deploy ur ops faster or do u want more fast redeploy

[small oar]

neither

[flat sapphire]

[small oar]

im more or less asking is their a way to be more effective with it

i do have gravel

[spark sinew]

i'm not sure what this team tries to do

[flat sapphire]

It's really a case by case scenario tbh

[small oar]

idk i dont have to many ops

i just got what dps damage

[flat sapphire]

U kinda just adjust ur team to what u need for the stage ur doing

[vernal lion]

I don't understand your question

[spark sinew]

it's like, 2 buff army recipients, no bufffers
firewatch can call her third buff army recipient ig

[turbid badge]

[small oar]

how to make a team around fast redeployment operators

or heli drops

[turbid badge]

read their kits??

[deft badger]

do that horn and ignore fast-redeploys if its not texas or yato
gravel still useful but they all kinder do meh dmg

[turbid badge]

ez

[spark sinew]

isn't that what they asked and you answered "no"

[vernal lion]

[flat sapphire]

Bring SA for redeploy talent

[vernal lion]

flagbearer+ SA + executor + any helidrop

[small oar]

indeed

[spark sinew]

you don't have more fast redeploy ops to add unless you cope Black modX

[small oar]

it was not the question

[flat sapphire]

M8 ur not making any sense

[spark sinew]

ah, maybe it's the "memeing" part

[small oar]

what is SA and executor

thx for being useful

nage

[spark sinew]

anyway, Horn will add a lot of power to your team so raise her if you want

[flat sapphire]

Sa reduces redeploy time

[small oar]

how do i increase that??

[vernal lion]

SilverAsh, to reduce redeployment time
and executor is an archetype of Specialist

[turbid badge]

do you not read your own characters

you raised projekt red

[flat sapphire]

En can't read momen

[spark sinew]

evidently they don't read this chat either

[small oar]

i kinda jsut go her because my team needed % damage

didnt really read anything

[flat sapphire]

They don't have SA tho so fair ig

[small oar]

oof wish i had silver ash

[deft badger]

nope, do u read?

[small oar]

would a trapmaster help me

or no

i got robin

or a merchant

[vernal lion]

merchant will eat dp

[turbid badge]

raise agents

[vernal lion]

you need to deploy more, so merchant is just a nuisance

[small oar]

ok

[turbid badge]

oh they dont have cantable

not like they need her

[deft badger]

i think u are overthinking it u have horn surtr schwarz u don't need any trapmasters or other shenanigans u just press that skill button and its over

[turbid badge]

cuz they have ines

[flat sapphire]

U can probably clear most general content already so I'd say just build horn tbh

[small oar]

i can clear basiclly all content but want to build a team i like now

rn project red and ines are my favorite

so far

[spark sinew]

i honestly wouldn't say this team can clear all content...

but that's more the reason to build horn

[small oar]

skill def or something

[spark sinew]

also level your e2 1s

i mean, you can prove me wrong

idt this team clears even current event

[vernal lion]

for me,
SA, Ines, 2 flagbearers, Texas alter, Yato alter, 6 other slots that can be any helidrop,
like Surtr s3, Ch'en s2, Eyja s3, etc...

[spark sinew]

in the hands of a typical player

[vernal lion]

Bagpipe too if you need

[small oar]

should i switch out nearl

[royal rose]

I can’t beat beat the 4th special stage CM

It’s too Bs

I am using Oyiki’s strategy

[vernal lion]

SL-S-4 CM?

[royal rose]

Get me something even more braindead

[flat sapphire]

One medic and nearl, no self sustaining ops. Yeh prob not enough for this event lmao

[royal rose]

Yes, may whoever designed this event have horrible things happen to them

[spark sinew]

don't block left, drop ines in there

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPM4VmCHpLY&ab_channel=LeoTse96

[spark sinew]

make some kinda choke with ambushers

[vernal lion]

[small oar]

this wasnt very useful ill just stick to memeing

[royal rose]

Seems infuriating

[small oar]

2/10

[deft badger]

can perfumer passive heal ling dragon?

[vernal lion]

ofc lol

[royal rose]

Yeah, IDK

[flat sapphire]

It's copium af tho imo

[spark sinew]

i mean it's

1. braindead
2. works

[trail kite]

Fellas help me optimize the base. How to improve

[spark sinew]

i know both points are true because that's what i did

[flat sapphire]

#r-i-i-c

[royal rose]

The stage is just badly designed

[spark sinew]

stop upgrading office and reception
then go to r-i-i-c yes

[royal rose]

Whoever made it should be punished

[royal rose]

Except it doesn’t

The wizards are too strong

[spark sinew]

it literally does

[royal rose]

I have Mizuki on the point

And I still die

[spark sinew]

are you calling every hard-ish stage badly designed

[royal rose]

Those stupid clouds and big sheep and wizards must be erased

[royal rose]

Yes

[spark sinew]

just kill the wizards/drop white smoke on your units

[royal rose]

Because it is stupidly hard

[deft badger]

stage is just fine ifrit can destroy everything inc mid
top is a bit tricky but u can handle it

[spark sinew]

idt badly designed means what you think it means

[flat sapphire]

Keep ur ops in white smoke

[tropic valve]

I think the idea is to put your ops on white steam so the wizards can't do much

[royal rose]

Medals should be easy to get

[flat sapphire]

Then what's the point lmao

[tropic valve]

the game kinda traps you into thinking it's important to put the wizards on white steam so they don't hit 3

[spark sinew]

we're not NK generals to get medals so easily

[tropic valve]

but actually it's fine if the wizards are on pink steam and hit 3, as long as YOUR ops are on white steam

[spark sinew]

so what's your team again

[royal rose]

I am trying Otuki’s staretgy

[tropic valve]

that's kinda the key idea behind SL-S-4 (CM) for example: your right lane just needs 1 white tile to survive

[spark sinew]

i remember trying this 6 op in this chat for cm and it works like a charm

literally just a chokepoint on the left and then exalter the right

[flat sapphire]

s5 is kinda similar too with the mages spawning from the middle which is pretty much perpetually in pink smoke

[tropic valve]

yeah Manticore goes really hard in this event

she counters the clouds

but doesn't block them

[turbid badge]

Yea

i just drop Bp

and than retreat her

she refubds her cost anyway

[flat sapphire]

Goldenglow s3 makes the event a lot easier too

[spark sinew]

pretty much

i cut pass or gg during another try but idr whom or maybe not, god the memory is bad nowadays

obviously there are like 3 op clears of this but they're not braindead

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngkoqJjrRRw&ab_channel=pard파드

[flat sapphire]

Yeh ofc it's those 2

[tropic valve]

smh not Skadi and Mostima

[flat sapphire]

Mostima pretty cool this event too

I used her a few

[royal rose]

OK, I beat it

Thanks to whoever suggested Exalter

[tropic valve]

congrats!

SL-S-5 time?

[spark sinew]

yw

[royal rose]

Yeah

If it is worse, I will explode

[tropic valve]

[flat sapphire]

Ofc it is

[spark sinew]

||it's way worse personally ||

some people said it was easier than s-4

[tropic valve]

also found S-5 worse

by worse I mean more fun ofc

[flat sapphire]

They really went to town on separate blue boxes at opposite ends of the map with this event

[deft badger]

i have to farm devices and grindstone, doesn't seem like we are getting a event soon where i can so i have to do in story

[turbid badge]

s5 was easier for me

[deft badger]

how smart is it to do thats the question here

[turbid badge]

maybe cuz i didnt apply mechanics

properly

[turbid badge]

thats normal

do it on dead day

[deft badger]

doing it now i have sanity packs that are worth 1k sanity running out tomorrow

[spark sinew]

would rather farm event but ymmv

[deft badger]

done

[spark sinew]

well, knowing that it's not great is half the battle

[deft badger]

shop clear and i have over 100 of blue stones that orange stuff and 80 crystals

[vernal lion]

I just farm AP, CA and CE

[spark sinew]

seems fairly low stockpile wise won't lie

[deft badger]

it will take a while to use them

[turbid badge]

they made exp permemnet

[quick pecan]

omg

bestie

should i continue and do s2m3

[deft badger]

and i am always out of books...

[quick pecan]

or finish executor -> firewatch

[spark sinew]

s2 is the better skill yeah

[tropic valve]

agreed, I usually default to La Pluma S2

[spark sinew]

i knew that
and i was still completely disappointed with her s1 this event

[quick pecan]

idk why but i’m getting my ass kicked by d6 highmore

my ticket luck has been shit

[spark sinew]

can't hold shit

meanwhile s2 with sloppy timings does well

[tropic valve]

like highmore fight or the maps before it

[quick pecan]

the fight itself

[tropic valve]

ah

[quick pecan]

idk what it is

d5 was fine

[spark sinew]

get horn

[quick pecan]

does 15 light really change that much

[tropic valve]

are you killing highmore from out of range?

[spark sinew]

if you lose with horn get good we need to know your strat

[quick pecan]

i dont draft horn

i get my healing from defender tickets

[tropic valve]

then you leave me no choice

[spark sinew]

draft horn for no brain clears then

[tropic valve]

[quick pecan]

ive drafted horn maybe twice bc of excess defender tickets and that’s it

[spark sinew]

or like rosa/black

why'd you need healing on d6

[tropic valve]

I can understand taking a healing defender but that shouldn't be too much Hope

like a Gummy should suffice

[spark sinew]

just heal with like reserve medic if you really want
draft teq/mly for broods

[tropic valve]

Horn very worth the ticket though

[turbid badge]

My is s2m2

idk if ill finish

i havent e2 exalter

[quick pecan]

so that’s why u wanted mine s3m3

🤨

[spark sinew]

what pot is yours

preemptive namecalling: teta the betrayer

[quick pecan]

p1

[turbid badge]

[quick pecan]

mmm i also need to finish my medals

[vernal lion]

Zuo Le is my new nuker now

[glass monolith]

And that shit is 14 second downtime if he is low HP to activate hyper SP gain

[royal rose]

SL-S-5 CM was easy

[royal rose]

Man; everyone does that when hyper-buffed into the stratosphere

The Zuo Le/Shu banner seems solid though, other than the 5* (but that is basically par for the course).

[spark sinew]

really good banner

and i mean

welfare is also good

so meh 5* on banner is like, who cares

[vernal lion]

sleepknights care

[spark sinew]

also interesting how people bullied both squid and igneus out

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I did watch his IS2 stream 2 years ago

he's kinda good ngl

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Just the usual mid tier 5 star

Nothing new

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whose stream

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Not better than the Flagbearers we already have, but Flagbearers are good enough on their own

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definitely better than myrtle

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Eh, Myrtle is dirt cheap DP-wise

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arguably even better than ely but it's really hard to evaluate him and i'm not gonna build him

especially since he has that welfare dp tax

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Tbh i haven't used flags much since flametail

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I have a P6 Ely but I still use Myrtle more often

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And we have ines now too

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i use ely almost exclusively

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Ines is poggers

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if i need flags

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Sometimes i use sail for stun