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spark sinew
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it's your account that suffers from your bad decisions

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i'm not sure why mention me

deft badger
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u did skip ines if i remember right? 😄

crisp bolt
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I didn't skip ines and didn't get her in her banner

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I was going for cement

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she popped up when I coped penance standard banner

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I'm tempted to build puzzle PtiloThonk

spark sinew
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what for

crisp bolt
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for fun

glass monolith
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Fuck my pull future is so messed up

quick pecan
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i need to buy sesa

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for some spuria cope

somber stone
glass monolith
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i have 190 pulls, but i will pull at last day of this banner for 6* to not waste pity
But i want to pull Typhon
But i want to pull 5* medic on Hoe- random mix of [d e r] letters
But i want Ray
But i need 300 pulls to spark on Sui banner if i want to get 4 Sui condition with Shu|
AmiyaDonk

undone moth
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what so special about this typhon thing

spark sinew
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what was the chance to not get rateup limited again

crisp bolt
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nothing BlitzSmile

glass monolith
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Well. She is sniper. The end

crisp bolt
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I want eyjalter but my pulls haven't been good HellaHands

spark sinew
somber stone
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Purple ceobe

glass monolith
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Snipers of same archetype in this game has more uniqueness to them that half of guard archetypes HellaKek

undone moth
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guess ill keep going for goat lady then

somber stone
undone moth
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my only non 3* healer is shining

quick pecan
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dude fuck sl-8

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my auto cooked itself

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pozy blue poison warf yato

glass monolith
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Erato - Sleep
Totter - Stealth ignore
Rosa - Bind
Racist one - Apply taunt to target
Typhon - Ignore such concept as "range" and just yandere after marked target

deft badger
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don't know if eyja is worth the go all out on her, lumen restore should be soon

undone moth
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what is lumen

somber stone
quick pecan
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a mix of pozy + bp

crisp bolt
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totter is cool

polar crane
quick pecan
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need to kill some waves of the hovering sheep or else blue poison gets overwhelmed and one of them leaks

glass monolith
deft badger
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@spark sinew whats wrong with lumen...

spark sinew
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eyja tramples lumen with her hooves

quick pecan
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ive just been autoimg sl-6

spark sinew
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and he will never stand up

undone moth
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i ended up using a cheap dp person to block off the first hit of the fat sheeps while eyja and penance finished off the current one

deft badger
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have been using him since i started playing and he works just fine

undone moth
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penance is a god

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i need a penance

deft badger
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btw single target they drive the same hps

quick pecan
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finally started my gavialt masteries JessicaBruh

glass monolith
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I have 200 Aketon and Mango, decided to farm component because i don't know what it does, want to remove it from potential targets for farming in future events

polar crane
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I dont remember ran out of maganese AmiyaConcerned

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it got use less

spark sinew
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and eyja heals 2

deft badger
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someone did even post a chart

spark sinew
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and eyja has elemental resistance

deft badger
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yes i know but one op

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they do the same

spark sinew
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and eyja also heals elemental damage

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and eyja heals way more on s3

undone moth
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also she's a pretty goat

spark sinew
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lumen can't even choose

crisp bolt
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lumen s3 is useless in certain stages

spark sinew
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yeah the only downside is her looking the same as og

crisp bolt
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basically all of ch6

deft badger
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yesssss i got it, but if u are on limited pulls
u don't even really use healers later btw, lumes s3 is fine if u are looking for a ST healer

spark sinew
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i'm not sure why even try to say "they have the same hps on ST"

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it makes lumen looks trash, because anyone who looks at eyja sees she heals 2

quick pecan
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eyjalt range is enough to just deploy her and cover two nearby lanes and double up on what would be a shining in one lane and a lumen in another

deft badger
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because they do someone posted post a chart and by it lumen and eyja heal the same when it comes to one target heals

spark sinew
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and that matters when

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btw eyja still doesn't have module Bnuuy

deft badger
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if i have typhone up coming, i am limited when it comes to my pull numbers
i am going to use lumen and skip eyja...

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is what i would do

spark sinew
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you do as you wish obviously and pull on kernel instead apparently LappDumb

somber stone
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But swire alt so you can not level jaye BlitzSmile

quick pecan
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eyjalt talent was a mistake

spark sinew
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it's so stupid

deft badger
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first he s- on me for even bringing a healer, then when i say if i am limited on pulls i would go for typhone and not eyja 😄

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now he acts like i am crazy

undone moth
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i always need a good healer

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my shield guys suck

somber stone
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Just use enmity

glass monolith
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i always need some sources of max HP up RedOmegaLul

spark sinew
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if you bring a healer, bring a good one Bnuuy

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actually hard stages need healer

quick pecan
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that talent single-handedly said "i no longer heal like shit like the other wandering medics" even off skill

spark sinew
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did you bring a healer to 1-7 or what, cause idr

fringe jackal
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Inb4 the sui medic powercreeps eyja alter ReedBean

quick pecan
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it’s the year of limited healers

spark sinew
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still 18 months away from us

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even if

polar crane
undone moth
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oh i forgot i had other healers i thought i only had hibiscus and shining- any of these guys good

quick pecan
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even her s1 is probably going to be better than other guardians trust

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they didn’t give it separate art for nothing

glass monolith
fringe jackal
polar crane
quick pecan
polar crane
spark sinew
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typhon is a good healer?

glass monolith
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Warf for buffing shit to make it kill. Ptilo because global faster SP also fast heal in S2

undone moth
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whem does healer chips reopen

polar crane
somber stone
polar crane
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no one sane enough to remember schedule

somber stone
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All open on sunday

undone moth
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ty

deft badger
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after reset

polar crane
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not all open on sunday

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only 3

somber stone
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Isn’t it all

spark sinew
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what if it's sunday during cc

quick pecan
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do i really need two 6* guardians in my squad

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probably not

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but i will probably still get shu regardless

somber stone
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I am I dumb

quick pecan
undone moth
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any of these guys good? im not sure how to use guards? they keep wanting me to use them to solo casters in 2-x but they're so fragile lol

spark sinew
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regretting not pulling more on nian 3.5 years ago

spark sinew
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e1 1 frostleaf and never touch her again

quick pecan
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hoederer -> shu totally doable

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maybe the arturia skip is the angle

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if i don’t get her from freebies

somber stone
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Should I spark chongyue

spark sinew
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but muh fomo i'm also considering it

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but her banner also has vivi, so kinda worth anyway

quick pecan
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hasn’t every arknights forum like ever crucified viviana

spark sinew
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they're unaware of base meta BlitzSmile

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she's like the operator

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also both 6* look alright art wise

undone moth
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is vigna good

glass monolith
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It is never bad to have charger vanguard just in case and her skill allow her to do big number hits to take down even elites

fringe jackal
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I will have enuff for a spark every limited banner I think.. but have to ticket degen maybe BlemiCry

deft badger
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she is fine, hits hard with s2
but i would go for agent lady if u can get her and if u are pulling u probably will
cantabile

glass monolith
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Myrtle paradox had Vigna paradox going on at same time FrankaWheeze

undone moth
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im at 175 of 180 for gold certificates

quick pecan
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degen is good but do i need her SkadiDaijoubu i already have so much balans + play 5* knights as well

deft badger
polar crane
quick pecan
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i’m not gonna mald some high d is4 anyway

crisp bolt
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myrtle going to get powercrept finally BlitzSmile

fringe jackal
polar crane
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4 flag bearer, new cc strat?exucurse

crisp bolt
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all the flags SoraWow

glass monolith
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I quit spamming myrtle about half year ago when i realized - this downtime before she print her value back can get me murdered on hyper dog rush stages

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Now i spam Canta SoraWow

crisp bolt
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pretty sure CC strat uses agents these days PtiloThonk

polar crane
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why not ines

fringe jackal
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The welfare dp cost will probably be high HellaKek

glass monolith
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Well CC11 didn't had Ines FrankaWheeze

polar crane
undone moth
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can i ise these gold certificates for typhon

polar crane
crisp bolt
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sp down is evil

undone moth
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f

glass monolith
polar crane
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and pull on her banner

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150 is never enough Cat_darkwa

deft badger
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am don't, get a op for ur yellows now u can endup with nothing

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not like now now w8 for something good

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transfer ur yellows in to pulls later when the ops u can get from cert shop are not going to make any difference

glass monolith
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AK progression: Build meta broken squad which will carry you regardless of content -> Do whatever, because if you get stuck just pull your (or someones) Mlynar/Ling etc

deft badger
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basically, Minus is skilled at forming proper sentences which i am not... lol

spark sinew
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this is what overreliance on AH does to people

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don't be like unknown

deft badger
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why its always me lol minus has even specter and i bet andreana

spark sinew
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i know what you gonna type but i will let you type it anyway

deft badger
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e2 moded ++

spark sinew
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damn, i'm too slow

deft badger
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ahahaha

spark sinew
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i mean minus just tries to turn everyone into AH

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have you seen his quartz

deft badger
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i haven't hahaha

spark sinew
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meanwhile you just go and abuse 3 6* Bnuuy

deft badger
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btw that means i can learn something from minus, turn everyone in to AH is a skill i still haven't acquired

spark sinew
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maybe you shouldn't

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you're too far gone into ah hole

cosmic thicket
deft badger
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well i can't help it 30% DR is just unbeatable

cosmic thicket
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no you can beat 30% DR

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it loses to 40% DR

deft badger
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who gives 40? 😄

cinder pike
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Dr?

cosmic thicket
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the damatzi cluster probably

cosmic thicket
cinder pike
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Does that apply after scratch damage or before?

tidal sedge
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After

cosmic thicket
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idr

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after sounds right

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wait no

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actually idk

deft badger
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i think u got it wrong, i am talking about my ops having 30% dr

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not enemies

turbid badge
cosmic thicket
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ok fine

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cement has 38% phys dmg reduction with pots and mod

spark sinew
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add double stainless devices

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way better than puny Ah

deft badger
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dr does stack?

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i thought it doesn't

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highest counts what i tought

cosmic thicket
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yeah stainless turrets yeah

deft badger
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ah ok

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but that's just on p.atk

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not arts 😛

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or other types

cosmic thicket
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we have ng for that too

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+res is arts dmg reduction

deft badger
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just to bad they don't get elemental DR as well with that mod 😄

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AH...

cosmic thicket
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elemental damage is irrelevant

deft badger
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but i am fine with the 2in1

spark sinew
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i have a feeling hg will push it on enemies

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after we get more of our own

deft badger
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what i wanted to say right now

spark sinew
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but eh, so far away

cosmic thicket
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either it 1shots so eyja alter can't heal it off or it doesn't exist at all

deft badger
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they are making ops that do elemental

spark sinew
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M basically spent quite a few messages saying that he skips eyja BlitzSmile

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but there's still time left to reconsider

deft badger
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i will not be surprised to see adds who do stupid amounts of ele dmg

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i never did say that i am skipping eyja..

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if i would have a limited amount of pulls to go for her and counting in future ops + next limited i would have skipped her

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ready to spark virtuosa if it must be done..

turbid badge
tropic valve
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tfw D15 Ubi BlitzSmile

sly drift
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D15 Ubi. Mosti + Ejya BagNino

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But IS3 is now done. No more IS3 update

tropic valve
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well if you have Mosti, that's already a win

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so true where IS4

mossy ore
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still gonna play for fun anyways

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(until is4 exists)

tropic valve
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true

sly drift
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Sure playing IS is still fun but on mid game I start to feel its pointless to play without any rewards RedOmegaLul

mossy ore
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and then you get a cracked run and be happy

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happens to me a lot of times

soft crystal
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Reached d15

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My goal in is3 is to at least complete the ed4 epilogues

turbid badge
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what else to do in ako

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ra and is my loves

vocal leaf
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how to travel in time and get RA next update? SkadiDaijoubu

mossy ore
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and occasionally give advice (hot takes) BlitzSmile

tropic perch
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I cant beat 2-7

deft badger
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do u have snipers?

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show me ur squad anyway

deft badger
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@lyric ginkgo btw unlock the event... so that u can auto the first stage for the shop reward

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focus on getting factory 3, workshop 3, control center 4

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push story 3-8, do IS2 monthly and e2 a 6 star and 4 star then go for ex stages in the event and spend the sanity u are getting in the coming days to auto sl6-7-8 event stages one of them

tropic perch
deft badger
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block with melee left and right

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find place for healer to cover the melees that's it

tropic perch
deft badger
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as far i care u can leave blemi

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did u open the 5 star packs?

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in ur depot

tropic perch
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Yes

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I got Kroos and Spot

deft badger
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what did u take from the 5 star packs?

tropic perch
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Waaifu

deft badger
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and 2nd pack? 😄

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red

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i guess

tropic perch
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I dont remember if i got a second Pack or not

deft badger
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one is yellow one is black

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black one has 4 ops in it

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can u screen ur 5 and 4 stars so that i see what u got

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just to tell u what to put in to ur squad so that u focus on them

lyric ginkgo
deft badger
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SL are the event stages

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in IS2 u have monthly squads, u can run each of them and get the rewards wich are going to give u lmd xp and chips u do need to e2 ops

lyric ginkgo
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Am I crazy or is there a ton to do in this game and it's even hard to figure where to start

deft badger
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same with the event shop its loaded with mats and other goodies

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u can start where u want actually, but main prio is event shop always

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and there isn't much its just when u start, u get lvlups really fast ur sanity gets replenished

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i just listed u the efficient way to get ur first e2s, which sounds much but is actually couple hours work 2-3 hours game play rest will be waiting for drones in ur base to replanish 😄

lyric ginkgo
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I can get my first e2 in a couple of hours?

deft badger
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u can get ur first e2 4 star in like 30min after starting

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4 star cutter guard, good op, 15-30min

lyric ginkgo
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Hmmmm Idk how. I don't even have an e1 yet

deft badger
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the moment u unlock the event u will e1 them all

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ty to press that button on the left side

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what does it tell u how far do u have to go in to the story

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get kroos in to ur squad and e1 her

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she is a sniper

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just push to the event

lyric ginkgo
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I can go in and I already got Kroos

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I literally have no level ups left over for her lol

deft badger
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just keep doing story i think its after u finish episode 1

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btw take a look in to missions

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left side those give a lot

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build a squad btw focus just on them 8 ops max push dds first

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it unlocks after 1-11 i think

foggy grove
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wow 30 min for e2 so pro

lofty sundial
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maybe doable if it's experiencd player starting new acc

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my first e2 was after 2 month playing

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because no direction or guide

tropic valve
lyric ginkgo
foggy grove
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sry i'm not experienced enough to speedrun it too

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you have to be as good as him

lyric ginkgo
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Yeah I only barely know what I'm doing

foggy grove
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this is a sarcasm,takes your time

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30 min is unrealistic

lofty sundial
deft badger
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well the thing is when u come in the game there is so much u can do and u are kinder lost everything opens up and u are not really sure where to go
endup wasting sanity on supplies or doing some stuff that isn't efficient

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btw we didn't have monthly IS2 1 year ago when i started xD

lofty sundial
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if u still unsure what to build you always can ask here or at #help

deft badger
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then depends what u get on 6 stars and 5 stars u can replace couple of them but they are early useful

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some u carry on for later till u replace them

lyric ginkgo
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This is my current team

deft badger
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dude really pulled chalter

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lol

lyric ginkgo
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What is Chalter? lol

deft badger
peak cloak
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Chen but with non-lethal water gun

deft badger
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hot bikini lady

lyric ginkgo
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I assume she's busted? I read that she has very good damage

foggy grove
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local tourist b

deft badger
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she is

cosmic thicket
deft badger
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leave flame, perfumer, meteor, ansel chalter, beagle in the team don't waste more xp lmd on the rest
and put kroos in it

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and go do that 1-11

cosmic thicket
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may is generally more preferable to meteor but if you don't have her i guess she'll be okay

deft badger
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made him even a 2nd list what to look for

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but my acc didn't get a may

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or gummy or perfumer

cosmic thicket
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if you're really trying to minmax lava is generally enough for AoE caster stuff (you also have chalter), fang can sometimes replace scavenger, and steward can replace amiya

lyric ginkgo
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Hmmm I don't got any of those on the second list tho

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These are some of the other ones I got tho

deft badger
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there are probably 2 packs in it

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a yellow and a black one

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u can pick ops from them if u didn't open them already but i think u didn't

lyric ginkgo
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I haven't yet I've been saving them

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And I thought Jessica was good? And Fang is better than Amiya?

deft badger
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yellow one u can start with lapp or specter, but since u don't have aeren use lapp so that u can do something else later not going to tell u what now to much info 😄

deft badger
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just by her talent

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and is cheaper

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don't know about fang

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use vigna

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just because of dmg for now, u will figure out dp later she cheap to deploy and does dmg

cosmic thicket
deft badger
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just kick jessica for now add kroos go for 1-11

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doesn't even matter what u use atm

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u will pull anyway and get new stuff

lyric ginkgo
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I've already beatn 1-11 of that main story. Unless you're talking about the event

deft badger
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have u finished pulling on beginner banner?

lyric ginkgo
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Yeah

deft badger
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and they gave u only flame -.-

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wow

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nvm, go in to the event

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but i think u will have to get that kroos e1

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u can do couple more story stages just to do missions

fringe jackal
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you have chalter anyway, doesn't really matter if flame ain't great

deft badger
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for lmd to e1 her

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then do first event stage repeat it couple times buy lmd and xp from the shop

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lvlops u are going to keep in the squad

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do couple more lvlup

lyric ginkgo
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So yeah my only 6s are Flametail, Chalter, and Swire

deft badger
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do couple story stages pull pull till u get cutter 😄

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chalter is already more then fine... u will get couple more

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if u get the tag "nuke" that's cutter

weak gazelle
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my advice is dont get so fixated about 6*
yours already more than enough to go through story map to certain degree

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the thing you have to do is evenly lvl your operators and aim elite 1 (E1)

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and starting build your base as passive lmd & exp income, you will need it for sure

lyric ginkgo
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I'm trying to do the 2-5-3 for my base to start with

cosmic thicket
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253 doesn't exist, 252 is better than 243 though

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if you're insane you could try 351 but it's a little annoying to follow

lyric ginkgo
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That's right 252.

weak gazelle
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thats good start
i am not a base nerd so #r-i-i-c might be a good place to ask advice from

deft badger
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lets say 1hour work 😄

peak cloak
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10/10

deft badger
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ahahahhaa

peak cloak
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from neb?

deft badger
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this is clearly not neb's work he is more talented then i am in paint lol

tropic valve
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wow

cosmic thicket
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Isn't Roberta E2 technically faster since you get 10 t3 solvent from level 3 of IS2

deft badger
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probably naga made a list who is the best

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but i took cutter since i am going to use her in IS grind

cosmic thicket
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I only know this because of the CC11 r0 speedruns

deft badger
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well from there set a auto for one of the higher stages in the event do it till u have xp and lmd cleaer, finish IS2 monthlies, do base to be able to craft chips
and day 2 ingame u have a e2 six star

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then push story to jt8-2

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and pull like a mad man on banner 😄

cosmic thicket
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this sounds like

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burnout speedrun

deft badger
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nah it was fun actually

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on day4 my acc did look like this didn't change much since then i am just wasting sanity right now on event shop

tropic valve
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progress Stonks

turbid badge
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lmao the schwarz

kindred galleon
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why doesnt yato consistently kill the caster sheep

turbid badge
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u need white smoke in the pat

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Path

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than she will kill consistent

cyan gorge
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enemies in pink steam = take much less damage
enemies in white steam = take much more damage

lyric ginkgo
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I think you got that backwards

cyan gorge
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nah this is how it works

lyric ginkgo
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From the perspective of the sheep yeah

vital arrow
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Wha

tropic valve
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it's a 6x difference

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enemy in white cloud take 1.5

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enemy in carmine cloud take .25

undone moth
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my units suck

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woops wrong channel

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meant that for general

scarlet fulcrum
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Nah its fine

deft badger
undone moth
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no

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i cant pull supplies out me bum to get the factory uypgrade lol

crystal cargo
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will this work

void terrace
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More than enough

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Wayyy more than enough

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Just keep an eye and activate mylnar fast if anything slips

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Meanwhile I just threw the rest of my remaining resources into ceobe

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My depot is crying rn

trim cedar
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is it possible to burst dolly without mlynar on upper lane of sl-8? i see that kroosalt could burst his shielddown fast enough but im not sureabout her damage

foggy grove
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his defense is too high for most aa sniper

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need buff or debuff for them

trim cedar
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would shamare be good forthat role on sl-8?

tropic valve
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without Mlynar there are a ton of options, but with marksmen specifically, you kinda need to go the buff army route

foggy grove
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oh sl 8?
yeah sham can make them do some works

tropic valve
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I think Dolly has 800/900 DEF?

foggy grove
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ye

trim cedar
tropic valve
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yes

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white smoke is a % damage increase

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so it doesn't matter for DEF calcs

trim cedar
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oh

dark glade
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There are plenty of option no?

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Or is this trustfarm?

devout garnet
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I need help 2-7:( idk wht to do

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i dont have many characters still

trim cedar
scarlet mortar
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what's 2-7 again

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drone hell?

strange hazel
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shaw / any pusher can shove enemies off the top at lv 1 but it's not required

scarlet mortar
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oh that

strange hazel
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yeah just chokepoint the bottom lane

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top lane has way less enemies and you can just hold it with a healer and thorns?

scarlet mortar
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i think i didn't even notice the roofside cliffs and just dps'd everything

strange hazel
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i mean if you're having issues with the north enemies shaw is useful

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i'm not sure they're dangerous though

devout garnet
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i try and put thorns with liskarm top lane but they keep passing them

strange hazel
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are they dying or is their block count getting overwhelmed

devout garnet
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block count

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i even had another behind them but didn't work

strange hazel
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wait the shielded enemies go top lane i believe

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so just use amiya

scarlet mortar
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i need to check what the stage looks like, nothing specific comes to mind so it might just be a numbers game

strange hazel
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right lane should have blue poison (facing up to deal with the def drones, maybe)?

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also are you having any DP issues at all

devout garnet
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no just too little slots when i was doing it

strange hazel
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ye then amiya covers top left lane enemies with spot?

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you have enough healers / snipers to go around if necessary

scarlet mortar
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ok it's just fodder spam with def drones

strange hazel
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blue poison / earthspirit deals with the shielded drones ye

scarlet mortar
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thorns won't help at E0, get marksmen to deal with the drones so everyone else can kill

strange hazel
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i might be wildly off because i don't play with e0's though

devout garnet
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he was mostly just to stop the people from passing

strange hazel
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yeah if you have a ton of block count on a lane it's going to get overwhelmed eventually

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you also need dps

scarlet mortar
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the best way to do that is to kill faster

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you can't just block forever

strange hazel
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block count lowers the dps requirement but doesn't erase it (unless you're able to permastall the last handful of enemies, but you'd need to kill to get there anyway)

devout garnet
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so level amiya and use her top lane? when i tried initially she kept hitting the ground enemies but idk

vernal lion
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this stage can be beaten by 2 star PodencoSip

devout garnet
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which?

strange hazel
vernal lion
strange hazel
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my guess is grim also doesn't have robots

scarlet mortar
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noir corne gaming

strange hazel
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and also no robot pots

trim cedar
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is 4:26 a bad clear timefor auto on sl-8?

devout garnet
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robots as in the 1* thing? i think i have one but its support

vernal lion
trim cedar
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context- team is yatoalt, gravel, surtr, eyja, SA, BP, warf, Saria, that sniper wamen who has def shred similar to pozy. x2 speed

strange hazel
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oh the top lane gets rushed by a ton of enemies huh

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guess i must've confused it for something else

devout garnet
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yeah lol

strange hazel
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cutter should be able to handle it?

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maybe not the drones

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but be able to do enough damage to the standard enemies. i trust e1 lv70 blue poison to solo half of the right lane on her own anyway

devout garnet
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is cutter a character or

strange hazel
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you have cutter on your main team lol

devout garnet
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oh woops

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i thought it was the type of uh operator

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ok so i will level her

strange hazel
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actually hmm im unsure

glass monolith
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If it clears, you winning

strange hazel
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as long as amiya kills the defender-4 there you are winning

sage glade
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hi im still kinda new does this look like a good team to use

trim cedar
devout garnet
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alright i'll level amiya too and play around a bit

glass monolith
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Grab folintic for your medical war crimes HellaKek

strange hazel
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also another option is get support pinecone instead

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pinecone s1 and have her stand on the leftmost drone tile

devout garnet
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i don't have her i believe

strange hazel
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she'll just kill the drone and handle the left side of the stage with no issues

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yeah as a support unit

sage glade
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are there other incantation medica besudes reed alter and hibialter?

devout garnet
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ah i see

foggy grove
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there is 1 more on cn iirc

scarlet mortar
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yh vendela

devout garnet
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if i do put her there do i put amiya on the bottom area or?

strange hazel
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she does slightly less than 2k damage with her skill on command

peak cloak
strange hazel
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my time is complete garbage then lol

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i usually multitask my autos anyway

strange hazel
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just make sure to have pinecone supported by someone with at least 2 block and a healer

scarlet mortar
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pinecone should wreck either lane tbh

devout garnet
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pinecone is a ranged person right?

sage glade
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ohhh vendela

strange hazel
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yeah pinecone destroys both lanes but the left lane has one entry point and the drone's position is right on her

sage glade
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shes a five star lets hope i get her

strange hazel
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pinecone is ranged yeah

devout garnet
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finding supports takes so long

strange hazel
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has a very short radius but destroys everything close to her

devout garnet
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alright

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when i find her i'll try it

strange hazel
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uh i have a support pinecone if you friend

scarlet mortar
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she's a 4*, i doubt most people have her on support

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pseudonam to the rescue

strange hazel
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yeah ppl have chalter but she's expensive

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i play 4*'s

devout garnet
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what is your username?

strange hazel
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pseudonam#6551

devout garnet
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alright i sent

strange hazel
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added

devout garnet
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thanks

strange hazel
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i know not everyone likes 4* supports but i do stupid gimmicks (also support weedy)

turbid badge
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u have humus m6?

strange hazel
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not yet ;-;

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mousse is next on the mastery line for jt8-2/jt8-3 cm

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anyway what situations does estelle significantly outperform humus? because it seems like humus is just the better option 90% of the time

tall cairn
strange hazel
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ye I did watch the video but i sort of think “Estelle can deal with weak mobs better” isn’t saying much when humus kills them too without losing barrier

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maybe for low op Estelle has use (GT final stage in particular has crazy low attack enemies that let Estelle precharge s2 and she only faces wolves and wraiths for half the map)

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iirc humus also has true aoe so that slug isn’t slipping by his one less block count

tall cairn
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Humus should be better usually yeah.

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Estelle kinda only works if her s2 finish off the enemy in time.

strange hazel
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only main difference is humus can’t be healed but you probably wouldn’t put him or estelle on that dangerous lane anyway

tall cairn
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ig that's fair yeah.

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Just used to clear trash mobs anyways.

strange hazel
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it’s just kinda feelsbad for estelle

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also what use does jessica have

tall cairn
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Jessica is worthless afaik.

strange hazel
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I think I’d rather use deepcolor summons or gravel over that dodge, and deepcolor gives dodge (even if only phys) anyway

glass monolith
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Jessica sponsors our gold into LMD loop, no bad talking Jessica JessSob

strange hazel
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ye when I say an operator is outclassed, I usually mean “they deserve better”

tall cairn
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Ig in the end it just depends on whether you have to deal with the deploy limit huh.

turbid badge
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s2 use is niche af

tall cairn
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But if you look past 4*, quite hard to find usage for Jessica even for niches.

strange hazel
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for hard mobs I’d rather bring in the heavy snipers (ambriel,pinecone,shira,etc)

turbid badge
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this is more of like a cheap

strange hazel
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light defense mobs get shredded by kroos anyway

turbid badge
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Option

tall cairn
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For noob mobs you kinda still have May

turbid badge
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wtf kroos i thought only 4 star

tall cairn
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And May is so much better.

turbid badge
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may just a decel binder smhsmh

vernal lion
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4 star is like "I tried to do best on my job" kind

tall cairn
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Decel binder just might still be more dmg than Jessica.

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haven't checked.

strange hazel
tall cairn
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But the slow gives her more opportunities to deal more dmg.

strange hazel
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right but that’s on single target only

tall cairn
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Also prolly one of the only air stuns 4*s have access to.

strange hazel
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if there’s an influx of mobs that slow isn’t increasing personal dps

strange hazel
tall cairn
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Should have other things to clear multiple mobs anyways

turbid badge
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ambriel unlocking the stun on e2 is just wompwomp

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in is3

tall cairn
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Click s2 stuns as well.

strange hazel
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also in the current event

tall cairn
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but yeah not many options.

strange hazel
tall cairn
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justice for click.

turbid badge
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yea

strange hazel
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is click substantially better at e2

turbid badge
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u get masteries

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and more atk

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which is good for

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drone caster

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cuz their scalin

strange hazel
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she’s in the waiting line since I have haze and indigo already e2 with masteries at the moment

tall cairn
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no clue, but s2 doesn't decrease in sp cost with masteries.

vernal lion
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I like how in old TD games, you deploy your units and upgrade them when you get more money from defeating enemies of each wave,

but in this game, you whale for their level and skill to max

tall cairn
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Leaves a sour taste.

vernal lion
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literally, everything can be solved by leveling your skill

tall cairn
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tho, it does increase stun duration by a little bit.

strange hazel
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e1 click is good during uptime

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that’s kind of it though?

tall cairn
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0.7-1 at m3.

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sp start 10-20.

strange hazel
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ok not bad

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I’d use click and then retreat during downtime probably

tall cairn
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oh wait there's also an increase in skill duration from 26-30.

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Not sure how much it'll affect gameplay.

strange hazel
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ok that’s very workable

vernal lion
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RNG stun rate = bad case for auto KEKPAT

strange hazel
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me with indigo binds

tall cairn
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y'know what, m3 click seems pretty worth it.

turbid badge
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yes

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its a 4i

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4*

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no complaining on materials

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unless ur gains are like ash s1 and cost a 🦵

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or executor (sniper)

strange hazel
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sometimes I wonder what would my experience have been like if I didn’t go 4*

tall cairn
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how about mah m6 lvl 1 Totter.

strange hazel
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then I saw penance’s mastery costs and noped out

tall cairn
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Hasn't paid off too lazy.

turbid badge
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please do penut masteries

turbid badge
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she m2

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rn

tall cairn
turbid badge
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is4 prep gaming

tall cairn
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deepcolor strong.

strange hazel
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deepcolor is broken

turbid badge
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yea

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tentacle spam

strange hazel
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infinite gravels for a deployment slot

turbid badge
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i retreat her when i run out

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keep the supply high

tall cairn
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only has problems with dp slots.

turbid badge
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that why u get her module

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🙏

tall cairn
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her mod doesn't fix that tho.

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just allows you to plant more tentacles.

turbid badge
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oh wtf

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she didnt get the othr module

vernal lion
tall cairn
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and you're the one using deepcolor all along.

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💀

turbid badge
#

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i borrow urs

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ummm im blaming this on is relics

tall cairn
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wow.

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You get timeworn every run huh.

turbid badge
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i havent used her outside of IS honestly shes just been raised this event

tall cairn
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6* players don't have a use for many 4*s outside of is unfortunately.

turbid badge
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tentacles are so pretty

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it fits the skade team

tall cairn
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lmao.

vernal lion
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an exception is Deepcolor is the only one that is coded to be able to deploy 7 tentacles in a same time
while the other mod doesn't have the function like that

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very nice HG

tall cairn
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it's good for deepcolor since she's the only one that doesn't regenerate her summon?

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might be wrong.

vernal lion
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we have Mayer and Mag too

tall cairn
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mod is definitely very required.

strange hazel
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mod is overtuned tbh

vernal lion
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keep in mind that Mayer and Mag are engineer, so they can only recycle the summon instead of creating more of them

strange hazel
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more summon good, but seven of them?

strange hazel
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I’m not complaining because she makes baiting dangerous single target attacks take no effort

tall cairn
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good enough, deepcolor can't even recycle unless retreated.

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nice mod.

vernal lion
turbid badge
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magallan s3 and mayer s2 allows recycle

strange hazel
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and you can use her to -2/3 op too many stages

tall cairn
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tho you really shouldn't require 7 tentacles at once.

strange hazel
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eh exaggeration maybe just 1-2

vernal lion
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7 tentacles are like for IS3

turbid badge
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pseudo nam did u see the tentacle black snake and quartz stall

tall cairn
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7 tentacles.

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8 deployment slot gone.

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joever.

strange hazel
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nope but I’m not surprised

turbid badge
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what animal id deepcolor

glass monolith
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You know not everything in AK is furry?

turbid badge
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oh she vamp squid

strange hazel
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I’m this close to using deepcolor gravel and yato to infistall talulah on jt8-2 cm

tall cairn
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do it.

strange hazel
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you know the stage where she just has 90% res from the start

tall cairn
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the 'amiya' stage?

strange hazel
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yeah basically lmao

turbid badge
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im using tentacle to fight tentacle

strange hazel
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no physical dps works without good setup and lets be honest I’m not that smart

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also can’t do the mato stall because she isn’t maxed

turbid badge
#

matomiru

tall cairn
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base.

vernal lion
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🤏

tall cairn
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amazing.

vernal lion
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it's a fucking 4 hp for 1 level

strange hazel
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let’s go 4 hp

turbid badge
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shes she not 90

strange hazel
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I don’t think I ever stop between 80 and 90 tbh

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id only ever go all the way to max

tall cairn
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looking at 0s is just more satisfying.

cerulean ferry
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wich vanguard should i use

strange hazel
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fang sees use even in the midgame

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plume is good now but gets outclassed (consider building) and vanilla is more offensive than fang but has less defenses

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yato is a cheap replacement fast redeploy and you only need to build her once you need another one (and she caps at extremely low level, can be done very cheaply)

vernal lion
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Vanilla is squishy so you may not need to level up her too

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Plume will support for chap 1 and 2 a lot

spice mortar
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Is autoing sl 8 impossible if you dont burst down dolly instantly? His boss skill activations are seemingly random which fucks up all of the timing 90% of the time

tidal sedge
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i got siege, is it worth it using her on early game? and maybe to mid game too cuz id like to like to avoid grinding up again for those mats if i can

spice mortar
vital arrow
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It has a timer, and it does it everytime it recovers its shield

tidal sedge
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plus is 1 vanguard enough?

vital arrow
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So if your auto fucks up the shield timing

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It'll also fuck up the skill timing

spice mortar
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I dont get why it fucks up though

vital arrow
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Make a more stable auto

spice mortar
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Let me magic that real quick

vital arrow
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Dont spam the bottle

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The bottle's CD gets affected by white clouds

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So dropping it at least every 15s is nice because its the normal cooldown

spice mortar
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Yeah ill just manual farm istg

vital arrow
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Just farm the other stage

spice mortar
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I need manganese

vital arrow
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Well then uh

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Suffer ig

spice mortar
vital arrow
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Or you can post your roster

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And maybe something can be fixed

spice mortar
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The issues arrive at the top of the stage, which is exu and silverash + eyjaberry

vital arrow
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Ok whats with the top stage

spice mortar
vital arrow
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That should be fine for SL8

spice mortar
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Exu shot down dolly a second too early or late or whatever which caused dolly to stay in exu range for longer which caused this

vital arrow
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Thorns and eyja botlane

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Exy and SA toplane

spice mortar
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Its meant to be 2 hp there and that bottle is meant to be dead

vital arrow
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Its probably bottle timing

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Like I said, dont really spam it

spice mortar
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Yeah no this stage is so bad

vital arrow
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Why not just use eyja S3 and have a 2nd burst ReedBean

spice mortar
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To deal with the scrap

vital arrow
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Kroos can deal with the scraps

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You have thorns to deal with said scraps

spice mortar
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My s2 is m3 and s3 is m0 idk if that makes that big a difference

vital arrow
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Yes it makes a big difference

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Because S3 is an actual burst skill

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That can help you burst down dolly ReedBean

spice mortar
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I dont need help bursting down dolly, i need to get the bottle timings down

vital arrow
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Both are not exclusive to each other

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If you can burst it faster you dont need to time more bottles

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You can even use gravel for the bottle spams

spice mortar
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Not really, if this dumbass sheep decides to ult in range of eyja but just before sa range the run is doomed

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Extra burst wont help there

vital arrow
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It would

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Becaus you can control the boss skill

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And it doesnt deal a lot of damage

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Unless your entire squad is in pink cloud

spice mortar
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Which they are bc cant use bottles often

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I just cant be bothered man

vital arrow
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I mean this can even be fine tuned more with a 2nd sniper

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That one leak was just a stray flying sheep with a sliver of hp

spice mortar
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You leaked SkadiDaijoubu

vital arrow
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Yes I know ReedBean

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Thats why I said it can be fine tuned

spice mortar
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Did you do anything top?

vital arrow
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Just SA

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Ansel

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And gravel

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Pop bottles and use SA S3 to get dolly to half HP

scarlet mortar
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mfw i just rosa + phantom

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and it's like 90% stable

vital arrow
dark glade
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same my auto sucked on alt because i cant burst dolly SwireKek

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and its a 6 min auto too on top of that

vernal lion
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farm Manganese but it's SN-10 and SL-8

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those boss stages cost fucking long ass time to be done

tropic valve
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my SL-8 auto used to be unstable, but I cleaned it up by killing Dolly ASAP and it hasn't failed ever since

vernal lion
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same HellaKek

tropic valve
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I use Exu + Schwarz for Dolly and Archetto for bottom (in the stable version, to be clear)

mossy ore
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turns out a schwarz is not always all you need

tropic valve
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I suspect the instability comes from frame drops causing the Dolly DPS window to deviate

vernal lion
tropic valve
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and since the damage reduction from shield is huge, even one missed attack could lead to Dolly surviving

vernal lion
#

yea

mossy ore
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(it's also safe if framedrop)

wide sail
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my first auto had basically exact damage SkadiDaijoubu it did not work

tropic valve
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yeah you wanna avoid exact damage

vital arrow
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Me wih exy+warf

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Dolly dead in 3 exy cycles ReedBean

solid dew
latent monolith
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I did pozy typewriter mlynar + 3x soda phase 1
typewriter exalt mlynar gg + 3x soda phase 2
guarantee kill > trust farm

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I've changed my auto multiple times tho

timid schooner
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me with chen2 + tposemiya s3 for phase 1
phase 2:throw everything like taxes s3,yato s2,then tposemiya s3

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dolly when he sleep he will encounter a donki doing tpose as nightmare

tropic valve
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you can also do schwarz solo + 3x soda (either phase): https://youtu.be/dHpiq2_mV6Y?t=454
but I don't recommend following what I did bottom lane here for autos because it's jank

So Long, Adele tower

No 6*, no repeats, except Schwarz

All clears were done on my main except SL-EX-1 and SL-EX-3 which were done on my alt. This event really demands you to utilize the steam bottle mechanics. Schwarz is one of the few operators able to one-shot a steam bottle (5000 HP) without buffs, which was quite useful for this project.

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vernal lion
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Schwarz balling

timid schooner
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yes

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2 days left until s stages open

continue with aketon griding time

tropic valve
#

manganese grinding time

dark glade
#

IS grinding time because this event mats shop sucks

timid schooner
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dolly attacks more while floating
dolly add another stars on his shield
pick one u think its hard

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idk abt s-3 cm

timid schooner
tropic valve
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need to continue with the tower during s stages

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hopefully not softlocked because I used up good units like Greyy and Krooster

mossy ore
crisp bolt
#

remind me, I don't need to do hard in is2 for completion medal thing on squads right?

mossy ore
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ye

crisp bolt
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k because I'm getting tired with the game giving me the worst cursed relic

mossy ore
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diamond WarSmug

crisp bolt
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I personally hate sceptre more

tall cairn
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Sceptre, for good reason should have the lowest wr. Diamond is fine.

tepid sigil
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Am now on confusion of is swalter mid or good

I picked her as early pick and not a single stage i felt disappointed

weak gazelle
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have you count the relics you got along the way?

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i feel kind of dissapointed tho about her so far

tepid sigil
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Most of them buffed snipers so idk, none benefits swire besides that atk+ when blocking 1 enemy

weak gazelle
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to me she is huge dp eater with minimum advantage to offer
compared to lee as a fellow merchant he is way better

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her s2 gimmick and range really awkward
while s3 uhh.... i dont like it at all
just my opinion tho

tepid sigil
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It's different in my case

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Her s2 gimmick is cool and I'm really helped with that esp i barely bring other laneholder

weak gazelle
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hmm
interesting

crisp bolt
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s1 heal Originium

weak gazelle
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funny thing i like her s1 most

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maybe just because im used to play jaye a lot

tepid sigil
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Yeah her s1 is sorta good

ashen pewter
#

So i forgot i havent cleared H10-3 yet. And I was shocked this was possible with this placement of Mlynar and Chalter. lol Eyjaberry carried. Enemies rarely even go to Exalter and Kaltsit lane. And Lee baiting it the boss. lol. Well FRD here and there. But still I was shocked.

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this is even my first try with this line up (well meta)

polar crane
brave sun
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strat dalaos did aracea quit?

viral trout
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need help lmao

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i dunno how to is i just picked meta units ( i still have like 20 hope remaining and the -2 hope 6* collectible)

tropic valve
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Pozy ignores dodge so you should be fine

viral trout
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i need help with placements

tropic valve
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just make sure you don't leak

dark glade
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you see choke points you place mountain

tropic valve
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Kroos on AU tile facing right, Skalter somewhere buffing her

viral trout
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ok fair enough

dark glade
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you see top box you place pozy

viral trout
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whats an au

dark glade
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kroos to the right

vernal lion
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e1 mountain KEKL

tropic valve
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the AU of PAUSED

dark glade
vernal lion
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it's so jover

viral trout
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listen bro i only got guard recruitment vouchers twice

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mountain aint a 3 block man

dark glade
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e1 mountain actually hold everything mid thats not the heavy defender

vernal lion
#

imagine leaking the drone

dark glade
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but he has texas

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its fine

tropic valve
#

but you could have upgraded Mountain...

dark glade
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instead of spec thats true

vernal lion
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I think he has more issue about those mob spawn in mid box than the boss itself

peak cloak
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well, dude has only 3 lives. 🤣

tropic valve
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regardless just throw Texas at the Defenders

dark glade
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regardless just throw Texas at everything

tropic valve
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and if Mountain faints, block with someone else for a while

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you got this

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make sure you kill Lucian before the top left box

viral trout
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when in doubt texas it out

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which top left box

ivory nimbus
peak cloak
tropic valve
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the roadblock

dark glade
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that top left box

peak cloak
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rip my data

ivory nimbus
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Raise or nah?

tropic valve
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if it breaks, enemies will change pathing

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you don't want that

vernal lion
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40k hp KEKL

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hope he can kill the defender lol

ivory nimbus
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Good lord, what are those stats?

tropic valve
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should be fine for Pozy

dark glade
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pozy + bag should 1 cycle it

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unless its not m3

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and like e2 lvl 1

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....

peak cloak
viral trout
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so it didnt work out

peak cloak
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Kay is okay anyways

vernal lion
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you know it's roguelike after all

dark glade
tropic valve
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rip

peak cloak
tropic valve
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next run will be better

vernal lion
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next time, remember to E2 everyone before final boss fight KEKPAT

peak cloak
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kinda out topic.

hey cirno, can your write me the sheriko mode you are using?

ivory nimbus
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Casually ignoring the fact I forgot I have Eyja.

spark sinew
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ceobe is a better solo caster than eyja in a lot of "events"

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don't discount her for only caster knights or something

peak cloak
vernal lion
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🫡

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anyway Imma build him now

ivory nimbus
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Kinda wish I got a Sniper tag to go along with Top Op instead. Exu, Schwarz, and Rosa, any of them would make a fine addition to my roster.

deft badger
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schwarz rosa understandable...
but exu 🚮 🤮

glass monolith
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Poor man is starving for Kroos alter restoration

peak canyon
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someone doesn’t know buff squad exists

halcyon adder
spark sinew
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is4?

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is5 probably as well, i doubt they would make everyone 90 res again

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considering eyja is not present in other events either nowadays...

viral trout
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what is exu bad or smthn now

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powercrept by pozy?

foggy grove
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she is fine,people just have weird expectation of marksman against mid to high def RedOmegaLul

spark sinew
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if anything we should talk shit about rosa and schwarz

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although i can understand the distaste for p1 exu

cyan gorge
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Exu is the exact same as she's been since launch besides module, she just has more competition and enemies are getting tankier

glass monolith
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Oh no (place Warf), enemy is tankeir (Place Stainless S1), what i am gonna do? (Place Elysium and Shamare)

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(Replaces Exu with Kroos alter for ATK_scale crits)

cyan gorge
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Lazy players just want more one man armies than dare use utility or buffers ReedBean

latent monolith
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exu buff is still funny

glass monolith
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Well it is lazy player issue. I enjoy AK because it give me that active game play once in half month and then back to sleep

glass monolith
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I used Mlynar in H12-4.... Because i was too lazy to do Gravel baiting (I still have JT8-3 PTSD)

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Or i could just use Tactician pet FrankaWheeze

lyric ginkgo
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I'm trying to beat SL-3 and I just can't get through it. Should I swap out some units for 3-stars that I can E1?

glass monolith
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What exactly kills you? Drones?

lyric ginkgo
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I can't kill those combo flying units fast enough

glass monolith
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E1 Mei/Ash friend support for stun source to ground them HellaHands

dark glade
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It do be like that

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0 trust moment

languid gulch
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e2 rush a 4 star and borrow texalter 💀

dark glade
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Dude its sl-3 ReedBean

vernal lion
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the easiest way is borrowing Gnosis, even in E0 he can freeze each of them

lyric ginkgo
glass monolith
dark glade
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Yeah but the answer is not e2 4★ and texalter it

glass monolith
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His Chalter probably does like 600 during skill

dark glade
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Can borrow gnosis

vernal lion
dark glade
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Level up ranger

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Click e1 for stun

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Etc etc

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Also chalter not even e1

lyric ginkgo
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Yeah. I started a week ago but was just doing story until this weekend

languid gulch
spark sinew
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using more ops (even as just a sac) would help as well

glass monolith
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Events stages go hard on new players, boss is not new player friendly either

languid gulch
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yeah this boss is pretty brutal for newer people

spark sinew
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boss is mlynar friendly at least
although an actual new player won't rush e2 as fast as secondary accs go

dark glade
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True

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Like it just so fast to get e2

lyric ginkgo
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Yeah I got almost no idea what I'm doing so I didn't even know I could get to e2 for some units quickly

dark glade
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Get a gnosis supp

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Freeze the flyers

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Hit them while they are down

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Enjoy

spark sinew
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cliff e1 should work as well