strategy

[limpid siren]

[tidal sedge]

I can confirm it's not the corruption granting the reload btw

These shenanigans make s2 so much funnier. I honestly didn't know about them before I invested in s2m3.

I just felt s3 was too much numbers vomiting and maybe s2m3 could be the defensive reaper skill I wish Highmore s2 was more like.

[limpid siren]

I can see that

[tidal sedge]

Any advice here?

[limpid siren]

Deploy further back on the top than you think you’ll need to, or have a free deploy slot for a frd to handle jetpacks that land far to the left

Break bottom box if your squad is strong enough to handle two separate lanes, even if you don’t you will still need to babysit the civilians that gather there

There are two imperial targeter drones that spawn late into the run, they idle for a while but be prepared to handle them

[foggy grove]

city is spider fest?

i always confused which one is which

[limpid siren]

Oh city lol

My bad

[tidal sedge]

Doesn't help both have Abandoned in their names

[foggy grove]

yeah

[long epoch]

Frozen Abandoned Mine when

[quick pecan]

ranged ops good

lappland good for silence spiders

therapist good for status

[dark glade]

chalter good for killing

tex2 and ya2 good for killing spider too

can push left side

[limpid siren]

city is a classic funny ifrit map
far left can be a number of different choices, but 3 block is a bit necessary towards the end
you can leave your vanguard behind mountain if you use him and that should be enough
the drones idle in ifrit's range for long enough that she should kill them, but it's not a horrible idea to bring more ranged units to help her clean up

lappland, as mentioned, is valuable for silence
some funny fast redeploys can be nice too for keeping ice spiders away from your frontline, as the main threat are the ice avengers

[quick pecan]

ifrit was pretty nice this annihilation as well

she is usually too far away for enemies to freeze her

[limpid siren]

the question marks aren't mandatory block points, but you might consider something there to be safe

there's a couple ice bombtails too, so frds can pull double duty for baiting them

[tidal sedge]

Might go S3 with Lumen

[limpid siren]

mud for left?

[tidal sedge]

Ye

[limpid siren]

the tile mountain is on is important btw, it's the only tile safe from two ice altars that spawn late into the run

[quick pecan]

lumen only healer??

would just be careful if the ice cleavers are near when your ops are frozen. other than that looks fine.

[tidal sedge]

Who would i swap?

Also S2 Taxes maybe? Or is S3 ok?

[quick pecan]

imo texalter and yato seem like enough to double up on damage and baiting where gravel isn’t really needed

[dark glade]

normal tex and gravel seems overkill for dp and redeploy

[limpid siren]

kal top on mon3tr with mountain/lapp is probably fine tbh

[quick pecan]

who are your other built ops??

[dark glade]

but then again should be fine

[quick pecan]

like i said

[tidal sedge]

https://krooster.com/u/TheOutlawOtaku

[quick pecan]

only concern is lumen not healing enough off skill and ice cleavers choosing death at that time

[limpid siren]

between texas and yato idk if that should ever be an issue

[tidal sedge]

I switched in MedGavial

[tidal sedge]

S3. Swords will still fall if she gets frozen and the stuns could save an op if an icecleaver is beating them up

[quick pecan]

yeah tex and yato can either cc or kill them if that happens

i guess gravel doesn’t need to be replaced with a medic but maybe another damager or a defender would be preferable

[tidal sedge]

Current set up

[limpid siren]

tbh you probably crush it without needing to worry too much about the minor details

squad looks good

[quick pecan]

yeah these are mostly nitpicks

this map was not balanced around tex yato spam

[tidal sedge]

Lol

[long epoch]

No map is balanced around tex yato spam.

[quick pecan]

i may just be a bit biased bc if i’m ever unsure i at least bring saria with mod y for extra consistency

defensively speaking ofc

[crystal cargo]

bring a status resist medic

oh wait im a bit late

nvm

[cosmic thicket]

lumen is right there btw

[crystal cargo]

thorns is a good borrow for that map though

[crystal cargo]

didnt see it

had to scroll down

this is how i did mine

[cosmic thicket]

thorns on EX-8 is kinda tbh

[crystal cargo]

replace shining with lumenn

[cosmic thicket]

oh wait it's not ex-8

[crystal cargo]

and you win

i just brute forced it

[turbid badge]

99 dp

99 dp for all operator inital cost ( it hruts everyone)

[long epoch]

That's just a bad idea to design the stage than intentionally encourage to abuse tex yato.

[turbid badge]

idk it was a stage somewhere

but it wasnt 99 dp

more like 30 or smth

it was prob a poo contract cant remember

or cc im gettingold

[long epoch]

Well, I wouldn't consider CC and POO stuff as the way to balance other than giving 'choice' to crank up the difficulty.

[turbid badge]

true

[scarlet mortar]

that's definitely not a CC tag

and i haven't really heard of that one among the CCB/POO tags

[turbid badge]

anyways the +dp relic on the fast redeploys is really annoying easily seen as they have 30 dp now to deploy at max redeploys, initally just +5 dp its that relic that you choose between wavebreaker but than again a map mechanic can increase inital dp cost or make redeployment time non existent and it can make them basically not fit that broken

[long epoch]

It's balanced if everything is broken.

[turbid badge]

oh thats alot of spelling errors

[foggy grove]

last poo there is that funny daily yeah

[turbid badge]

i mean yeah there that poo with the costs basically established for u

alot of starting dp and punish u for using VG heavily for dp

[scarlet mortar]

ok deadass i can't find that stage you're talking abt

[limpid siren]

That daily banged so hard

The 1p daily?

[scarlet mortar]

if you remember anything else abt the stage it'd be helpful, fixed 30 DP costs wasn't a thing for POO

[limpid siren]

Best map in recent memory

Probably means the one that fucked vanguards

[scarlet mortar]

that's just the last stand map

starting 150 DP but no gen and vg's get ultra shafted

[limpid siren]

Kid named ines

6*s stay winning

[scarlet mortar]

i mean once you open and clap half the stage it's usual business anw

you can't spam rdp's is all

[limpid siren]

Depends how high you go

[scarlet mortar]

there's always kuromu and their antics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7D1psEWGFg

[sly drift]

Heyak goat

[tropic valve]

oh this daily was fun

[scarlet ledge]

pro

[crisp bolt]

oh yeah ines was really strong in that map

[sharp wadi]

Ines is almost everywhere

Some time I just hate her and switched to canta

[tidal sedge]

Hey yall I'm on 1-12

I have operators lv 15 and some lv 20.

[glass monolith]

Level recommendation is just number

[tidal sedge]

This is the squad I was using.

[glass monolith]

Discord image attachment is dead for last hour or so, don't know when it started

[vernal lion]

discord sucks for right now

[tidal sedge]

I have 4 melee 2 rangers, 2 medics and 1 defense

And 1 caster

[glass monolith]

It is hard to tell from that alone because almost every operator has very unique skills/talents which can be more benifitial based on stage threats

[tidal sedge]

1-12 I just can say

[spark sinew]

yeah that doesn't help much...
but on chapter one it's not the levels or even what you're using (mostly)
it's just understanding the stage

[tidal sedge]

Idk if get a recruit

[vernal lion]

chap 1 doesn't have anything to be hard

[tidal sedge]

1-12 is not?

[vernal lion]

we have chap 12 dude

chap 1 is just 🤏

[fiery marsh]

Chap 1 is tutorial

Chap 1 to 3 tbh

[cinder pike]

what are you struggling with?

Are you struggling to handle starting waves, are you struggling to hold w?

[tidal sedge]

I think both

[polar crane]

we cant see image

[tidal sedge]

Oh

[polar crane]

try another hosting website

like imagur

[tidal sedge]

Still?

I will just say I'm not ok

[polar crane]

no

[vernal lion]

as I said, Discord is under error now

[glass monolith]

You can't attach image directly

Damn other servers already made copy pasta about it

[vernal lion]

yea

imgur works

[tidal sedge]

https://i.imgur.com/bisgAZk.jpg 💀

[vernal lion]

oh dear

that medic can't heal Beagle over there

[glass monolith]

Medic doesn't reach shit from your position

[spark sinew]

How is Ray looking so far, just a typical st sniper?

[tidal sedge]

Couldn't find a good place for her

[vernal lion]

replace better medic

[glass monolith]

Typical. Single target. 450% ATK scale

[vernal lion]

you don't need to just use her only

[glass monolith]

Discord brain farting my upload with lvl 1 operators

[spark sinew]

yeah but that's just archetype being archetype isn't it

[tidal sedge]

https://i.imgur.com/851gM85.jpg yeah ummmmm

[spark sinew]

i can def see hunters being great in -atkspd environment

[vernal lion]

search by medic, in your roster

[spark sinew]

but from what i saw she doesn't really do all that much or set new records?

[tidal sedge]

https://i.imgur.com/CF9hAgw.jpg here

[spark sinew]

unrelated to your current struggles, but don't level your every operator

[tidal sedge]

Ok

[vernal lion]

Ansel and Hibiscus are fine to use

[spark sinew]

spreading yourself thin is a sure way to be underleveled later on

[vernal lion]

Myrrh doesn't have strong skill

[tidal sedge]

So... what should I do now?

[vernal lion]

just replace Perfumer by Ansel or Hibiscus

[glass monolith]

Or move Perfemer on Kroos spot

[vernal lion]

also remove Kafka tho, she doesn't do much thing for you

[spark sinew]

also why do you have 4 vanguards

[polar crane]

image is working now btw

[vernal lion]

good

you can upload image normally

[glass monolith]

That's gif, there was no issue uploading gifs

[polar crane]

she would die normally

[tidal sedge]

Hmmm

Brick

[vernal lion]

there is lol

[tidal sedge]

https://i.imgur.com/CoMrUa9.jpg done I guess

Idk what thing replace with kafka

[vernal lion]

show all your roster

dw discord has improved image scale

[spark sinew]

you can cut a lot of vanguards here especially early they're crap
for defenders or whatever

[polar crane]

this work fine
the image i mean
cut down on vanguard like hauc said

[glass monolith]

Me abusing W yet again with no level operators again

[flint laurel]

no level
30

[tidal sedge]

There

[vernal lion]

damn

you actually don't have a single Lord op

nvm

still doable

[foggy grove]

where is your selector?

[tidal sedge]

Wym

[flint laurel]

damn

selector

[foggy grove]

every new acc has 2 5* selector

[flint laurel]

you can choose an operator to get

[foggy grove]

check your depot or something

[tidal sedge]

Wanna see how my base is going?

[flint laurel]

message

sure but do in #help

[tidal sedge]

Oh ok

Anyways uh what should I do now...

[flint laurel]

for?

[tidal sedge]

1-12

[spark sinew]

don't level Office and Reception for now btw

[tidal sedge]

Ok

Hmm

[tidal sedge]

Idk

[turbid badge]

jp is getting kfc?

[tidal sedge]

Any idea how I'm gonna win 1-12?.

Squad.

[polar crane]

this is #strategy but yes

[tidal sedge]

I'm struggling on early defense and uh killing W.

[vernal lion]

this is my old auto on 2nd account

all op are E0

[vernal lion]

but, let me try it for you first

[tidal sedge]

Ok

This is how I was defending before.

[vernal lion]

that is very bad positions tho

you need to learn and understand how the game works

[tidal sedge]

Oh

Oh

💀

[vernal lion]

ugh

[scarlet fulcrum]

This is usual setup how ppl usually clear it

If u want sleep borrow pluma

[tidal sedge]

That when I tried again

[scarlet fulcrum]

Exalter exist nowadays ig, not like u need to borrow tho. Just in case u are lazy

[vernal lion]

the mini sheep game is fun lmao

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is mini game in upcoming event? Like gavialter?

Interesting

[vernal lion]

https://fluffyatelier.arknights.global/

[scarlet fulcrum]

Minesweeper?

[vernal lion]

Candy Crush Saga

[scarlet fulcrum]

[glass monolith]

This background of tiles is cancer

[scarlet fulcrum]

It looks lovely tho

[vernal lion]

combine all 3 different types of feeling/pose/color to get bonus score on the top right

[scarlet fulcrum]

oh its in #game-news , im snail

[vernal lion]

yea, play game to earn reward in your account

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its cotton like furniture iirc?

[karmic glade]

it's 30k lmd or merch #help message

[scarlet fulcrum]

Merch

[glass monolith]

Can i change magnet which they won't even send to me because i live in Russia to 30k lmd?

[vernal lion]

oh yea, face/body/state

[scarlet fulcrum]

I hope i get one, to fleggs later

[tidal sedge]

Yay 😄

So... what you guys recommend me for world 2?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nothing impressive to note there, maybe raise ur kroos for drone stages. Also shaw can cheese few stages with skill lv4 only (just skill lv)

[vernal lion]

yea, chap 2 is about sniper and specialist

you get Shaw

she will be used in some stages with "pushing" mechanism

to make stage easier

[scarlet fulcrum]

There are few force tile there, satisfying tbh

[tidal sedge]

Should I bring supporters?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah early u want slow on stage, no need to lv em

[tidal sedge]

Ok

There's 2 enemy entrances i probably have to use a melee

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also orchid is the one do slow

[vernal lion]

some op need E1 to expand the attack range

important for sniper, caster and medic

[scarlet fulcrum]

Luckily binder range poggin

[tidal sedge]

I wonder if this is enough.

[vernal lion]

have you done the Annihilation mode yet?

[scarlet fulcrum]

E1 kroos, worth for a long term

[vernal lion]

like this one, it's called Anni 1

[tidal sedge]

I'm currently 2-1 thanks I guess

[vernal lion]

you will need orundum if you want to gacha

in headhunting

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sooner better yeah

[tidal sedge]

I'm uh poor rn

[vernal lion]

that's why you need to do anni to get orundum tho

[tidal sedge]

Also should change mu melees from 4 to 2?

My current loadout for 2-1

[scarlet mortar]

pretty average loadout ig

organize that better and prepare to usually slot out 2-3 of those ops with reserves

also maybe kick plume to bring gravel

you don't need that many vg's, meanwhile gravel's a great all-purpose body

[polar crane]

anni unlock after you do 2-8

[scarlet fulcrum]

That was anni2

[tidal sedge]

Ok

Oh I have 44 of these tickets

Should I spend them?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Anni1 only require 1-5 to unlock

[polar crane]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Do u have steward?

[tidal sedge]

Let me check

Nope

[scarlet fulcrum]

Go to recruitment and hope caster+dps appear

[tidal sedge]

Ok

[scarlet fulcrum]

Set it to 9 hrs

[vernal lion]

7:40 is good enough

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sure ig, its trash tag anyway

[tidal sedge]

Umm I don't have caster option

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ranged+dps or just dps then, but not guaranteed with that. Wait for this one to finish or use red ticket to skip

[scarlet fulcrum]

Do u have click in ur squad? Its operator name

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also don't forget to pick lappland from selector, can be obtain free through that. Check ur storage or mail

If u want u can read general advice by typing /teambuilding at #bot-spam

[turbid badge]

oh i forgot kriede took a long time to reach the bkue box i got scared anyways this map is rough but kriede judt kills himself

[scarlet fulcrum]

pog

[turbid badge]

silence alter and skalter s1 so o

op

[quick pecan]

pogger rewards

need two more masteries

[scarlet fulcrum]

actually based choice

[turbid badge]

is this insider

[quick pecan]

u flopped

it’s exalter

[turbid badge]

oh

i flopped

[quick pecan]

insider has been done

[scarlet fulcrum]

I have only like 1 block rn

[turbid badge]

same

anyways i mod 2 fw and m3

recently

and i say

everyone need to dat that

[quick pecan]

i need to start doing sss

actual cringe

[foggy grove]

I need books

[turbid badge]

im always out of books dw

[foggy grove]

I can't even finish humus mastery

[turbid badge]

yoke

[scarlet fulcrum]

Beeg and based

[vernal lion]

30k lmd for mini game

dayum

[scarlet fulcrum]

Tasty

[deft badger]

did they announce eyja event?

[vernal lion]

4 hours ago

[deft badger]

was in the game didn't see anything in the notes

when is it starting?

tomorrow? 😄

or in 2 days

[vernal lion]

16th

[deft badger]

pfff

i will be on vacation at that time🚮

[vernal lion]

I already knew it will be 16th, because today is 13rd
usually, they will release the event after 3 days of live stream

[polar crane]

make sure dont encounter any sheep in the journey

[deft badger]

mehh i will be to lazy to play the game on my phone

since i started i maybe played for couple hours in total it just doesn't work for me i don't like it

[tidal sedge]

Tries frozen city.
Notices a leak
Gdi

I was over 300 kills too...

[vernal lion]

jetpack leak

[tidal sedge]

I was loking at a different part of the map so i didnt notice what it was

So maybe

I had ifrit top, Lappy top left, Saria/Mudrock bottome left, and was spamming Taxes and Kiyato

Medics were Lumen and Gavial

[vernal lion]

or maybe drone leak

[tidal sedge]

Also possible

[tidal sedge]

This was how i had my ops set up

[vernal lion]

you're doing Ifrit strat right?

if you deploy that op there, Ifrit can't hit enemies in that lane

[surreal star]

for ifrit strat isn’t she usually one tile to the left of that

since she can hit drones

i might be misremembering though

[vernal lion]

the drones stay in the same column of the freeze altar

[surreal star]

[vernal lion]

he's doing it right

[tidal sedge]

Ifrit is the top middle tile

[vernal lion]

yea I know

[tidal sedge]

👍

[vernal lion]

but, that melee op isn't in the right tile

do you understand what I mean

[tidal sedge]

No?

Where else should they be?

[surreal star]

the enemies will walk past ifrits range

[tidal sedge]

Thats where ifrit is

[vernal lion]

[tidal sedge]

Ohhh

👍

[glass monolith]

Also if someone cares of my useless opinion dot between 2 blue dots on left is better because it is outside altars range

[surreal star]

is the bottom left dot horn or smth

[tidal sedge]

Mudrock

Tho i might switch to horn

[surreal star]

i’d probably go mud+horn for left side and shift them both down one

[tidal sedge]

?

So put Horn behind Mudrock?

[surreal star]

yes

[tidal sedge]

👍

[surreal star]

like this

[glass monolith]

Back when i did it it was uh..... Alot of copium

(Don't recall exact placement)

[cyan gorge]

I remember exactly how I did this map and i still find it hilarious

[glass monolith]

Only thing i recall was my megamind move of giving La Pluma shields from Roberta to make her survive casters

[tidal sedge]

Hey guys i have 44 strategic battle records on what operators should I spend them?.

[vernal lion]

if you have plenty of it, sure

[quick pecan]

@turbid badge we too brokie

no masteries either

[lethal dragon]

Such skill issues

[quick pecan]

need eyja to hurry up and start dying faster so i can get event rewards smh

[tidal sedge]

What operators are not needed to upgrade?

This is bs

😭

[autumn loom]

just slap down that texas

[glass monolith]

Should have printed more

Also at this point you can recall entire right side but ifrit

[cyan gorge]

Funnily enough, the one that needs investment least is Kafka

[tidal sedge]

Wooooh

That was close

[autumn loom]

[tidal sedge]

Ty Taxes!!!

[autumn loom]

400?

nicee

[tidal sedge]

Ye

[vernal lion]

for 2 star: Noir Corne and 12F are usually useful. Ranger maybe too.
for 3 star: Fang and Kroos are usually picks. Lava and Catapult are also good tho

[tidal sedge]

That last wave was rough

Oh wow look what I got.

[vernal lion]

also, if you want to borrow op, you should remember that the op you borrow will be based on the promote of your op in squad

like, E0 op in your squad, you can only borrow E0 op from support

[cyan gorge]

decent but keep eternally at e1
e2 talent buff is a nerf

[tidal sedge]

So I upgrade those most likely?

[vernal lion]

pretty much tho

[tidal sedge]

Ok

[vernal lion]

they are still worthy till chap 8

[eager turtle]

on hard mode, who i can use on the right side, when the boss summons the slugs? there's one leaking by 1 hit

[tidal sedge]

My first max

[tidal sedge]

I used mudrock

[eager turtle]

my mudrock is on the top of the right lane

[tidal sedge]

Do you have Lappy or Saria/Healing defender?

[tidal sedge]

I just maxed Noir Corne

[vernal lion]

aight, do you know about "Trust" stat?

[tidal sedge]

7% of trust

2 stars

[vernal lion]

it's a specific stat that will increase the main stats of that op

click on it to see which stats

[tidal sedge]

Woops

Wrong one

[vernal lion]

DEF +3

[tidal sedge]

There

[vernal lion]

this is very important, despite how big or small stats it will be

[tidal sedge]

I see

[vernal lion]

at 100 trust, Noir Corne will get +40 DEF

[tidal sedge]

:0

[vernal lion]

it's not a small number

[tidal sedge]

Yeah, trust is very helpful

I get Trust by winning right?

And having them in the base as assitants

[vernal lion]

yes, and you can also get Trust by letting them work in Base

[tidal sedge]

Good, because I putted him on the workshop.

[vernal lion]

workshop won't increase Trust tho, because it's about exchanging mat

[tidal sedge]

K

[vernal lion]

setting them as base assistant, it will give lots of Trust

do you know how to do it

[tidal sedge]

On how to put them yeah I guess

[vernal lion]

tap on Control Center, and tap on Base Assistant, it will show you this window

[tidal sedge]

K I see it

I have 2 slots

[vernal lion]

yea, because you need to upgrade Control Center to get more slots

but, you need to ask about other players here, since they know about how to optimize base's efficiency

[tidal sedge]

Oh ok

[vernal lion]

because once you upgraded your Control Center, you WILL NOT downgrade it

[tidal sedge]

Interesting

[glass monolith]

Not like there would be any need to downgrade it :clueless:

[tidal sedge]

So yeah I put amiya and vigna

Hmm should i get another máx?

[vernal lion]

you are in chap 2 right?

[tidal sedge]

2-1 yep

[vernal lion]

keep doing it

[tidal sedge]

K.

Maxed 12F

[vernal lion]

there is Promote for op from 3 star and above

for 3 star, it's only 1 Promote, from Elite 0 to Elite 1

for 4 star and above, it's 2 Promotes, Elite 0 to 1, then 1 to 2

[tidal sedge]

I found out op has like a type of level

That you can play it and beat it.

The paradox simulation?

You get 200 orundum for doing those

Ye that one

👍

They are worth doing

Some are kinda hard tho

I see because I wasn't ready With Noir Corne

[little ravine]

is the lmd the only fluffy atelier prize ?

[tidal sedge]

I think thats enough.

[vernal lion]

I think there's merch too

[vernal lion]

alright, do you know about Promote?

[tidal sedge]

Nah...

[vernal lion]

this is example for Promote from Elite 0 to Elite 1

Promote makes your op stronger and get another skill(s)

[tidal sedge]

Oh ok

I kinda forgot how to do that.

Nvm

I found out

I promoted kroos

[vernal lion]

if there is anything hard, just ask in #strategy here, or in #help ,
since the game has been hard for later, you will need to know more to get used to that

[tidal sedge]

So...when promoting your op gets a rank up and more damage...

[vernal lion]

you can level your op again after promoting them, that will keep them being stronger

but you also mind about that, because the higher level they will be, the more EXP and LMD they will need for that

so it's not totally cheap like when Elite 0

[tidal sedge]

Ok, probably this good for the chapter 2..

Looks good to me

[tidal sedge]

I won

[midnight veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-link-cdi-winner-i-won-gif-18450233

Reminded me

[limpid siren]

[tidal sedge]

Hmm any idea?

[limpid siren]

uber basics is something like this

open with a vanguard to block the blue box from enemies

when you can drop a slower supporter and/or caster to cover the midleft red box, only a few enemies spawn there

continue working on the right side

cover defender with medic, etc

medic shouldn't be necessary for far left ranged units as long as you don't deploy them too close to the top lane

[tidal sedge]

Ty for the tips

[limpid siren]

[glass monolith]

Daily you get refresh of 30 practice plans, those allow trying stages without stamina waste on defeat (CM mode need 3 per try)

[turbid badge]

dam

defective fr

liberator eat attack yumyum

[quick pecan]

best i can do

[dark violet]

small queestion causee I'm not sure if I remember well, but deploying NTR with S2 means her talent is boosted by the +160% atk of S2, right?

[cyan gorge]

I tested it and it does seem that s2 buffs her first talent

[dark violet]

thanks

I've been addicted to her s2 for too long so I don't remember what not using it means

[cyan gorge]

I rarely use her at all, and when I do it's for s3

[dark violet]

yeah that's fair, I like my funny stuff

[cyan gorge]

I'd mastery her s2 if I wasn't prioritizing bird masteries I probably won't ever use

[dark violet]

thinking about it I'm not using birds much, huh

unfortunate

[cyan gorge]

Most people don't even know some ops are actually birds

like Gnosis. Mr. Nothing, and Elysium

[dark violet]

right

the one I most eyed was fartooth because she's a pinus gang member

[cyan gorge]

There are only 9 6* birds

i'm only missing Hellagur

[dark violet]

wait hellagur is a bird??

I always thought he was feline

[cyan gorge]

griffon but yeah

[dark violet]

ah, that explains it

[cyan gorge]

classified as liberi

same with Archetto

[dark violet]

can't wait for flying fish AH so I have both bird and fish op

[cyan gorge]

flying fish isn't even remotely related to a bird

[dark violet]

shh, let me dream

[cyan gorge]

just embrace birb

[dark violet]

If I could take 24 ops in a squad

[cyan gorge]

You know, I realize I can probably extend my niche to felines if I wanted to considering Archetto is a griffon

Birds + Kal and Kaze

maybe one day

[gray stone]

Does anyone know if Croissant talent is a Dodge (everyone else) or a Block (Hoshi)

[tidal sedge]

If I get dodge relics this IS run I can try it ig

[lapis hornet]

p sure it's dodge

[opal kiln]

dodge

[gray stone]

Very cool wording

Does Hoshi also "dodge" or is she an entire other case

[lapis hornet]

why is it relevant, for is relics?

[tidal sedge]

I've heard people say that the atk buff after dodge relics won't work on Hoshi, but I can't confirm that

[turbid badge]

dodge

[turbid badge]

No

wtf its salmon asking

Hoshis resist doesnt work for is relics

Quaso is dodge

[gray stone]

gotta love HG wording

[turbid badge]

if u have wording issue

there beatiful prts

it made me realize why amiya talent wording not work with stainless turret

[quick pecan]

pepega game

still gonna play tho

[sly drift]

Everyone hate RA

||me too||

[spark sinew]

that's about the % of people who did all 4 endings in is4, no?

not a bad number

is3

[lapis hornet]

there's no way it's that high tbh

[quick pecan]

i did not do that shit at all

i probably claimed less than 10 levels

[lapis hornet]

they probs have some criteria to boost numbers like I remember their cc numbers swinging wildly from one cc to another back in the days

[spark sinew]

well the official stats are
they didn't disclose their methodology, so yeah

[spark sinew]

barely

[lapis hornet]

oh I see

it adds up to 100%

so it's like 11% of accs who cleared endings cleared all 4 ig?

[tall cairn]

Ye.

[spark sinew]

yeah, the people who actually opened IS and whatnot

[tall cairn]

The RA one must be the same.

[spark sinew]

although...quite a bit of people actually struggle with d0 ed1

even with stacked rosters and among those who come to discord

[tall cairn]

It’s the many years of copy strats.

[spark sinew]

they somehow struggle to even copy them

[tall cairn]

[little orchid]

oh, is that yearly introspection out already? is there a link for it?

[spark sinew]

it's in game

navigator terminal thingy

not sure how true is it

because if it's true, i deposited 1/11 of all ingots

[tall cairn]

that one is the maximum anyone has gotten in their own account.

[spark sinew]

well the number for everyone keeps going up

thank god

[tall cairn]

That’s 1 deranged person.

[spark sinew]

how would you leak 796 hp though

i checked deep investigations very briefly but i didn't see path of suffering

[tall cairn]

That’s the church node.

That one skem node you trade life for hope.

[spark sinew]

oh this useless...

[tall cairn]

One person actly traded almost 800 on it.

[tropic valve]

yeah sadge

I liked RA

but I can see why

and apparently ending 2 IS3 clear rate is 9%

[tall cairn]

Can agree, RA was fun.

[spark sinew]

never did ending 3 on it but i did clear it fully and did some scuffed base

[tall cairn]

except having to fix base after it explodes.

That’s not fun.

[spark sinew]

the requirement for it is crazy, good luck finding this shit

without looking up

[tall cairn]

[foggy grove]

building base is annoying

rng eding is always bothersome

[spark sinew]

i did the circle thingy with killzone there

[tall cairn]

Without research, it’s actly so impossible.

[spark sinew]

so spiders/whatever explode without damaging anything

[tall cairn]

[spark sinew]

but yeah before i figured it out my base was demolished a bit

[tall cairn]

Yeah I ended up with a unexplodeable base. Had to change it because of ending 2.

[spark sinew]

but my operators were strong enough so it was literally a corridor into a choke

not hard to rebuild

[tall cairn]

Indeed.

RA is just skip days game after all.

Let everything come to base.

[spark sinew]

I've seen some insane bases with like 20 nets and pushing machines

[tall cairn]

RA with reedic should be fun.

[spark sinew]

but even corridor into a choke lagged so hard

[tall cairn]

I had quite a few nets of my own. Just didn’t use any pushing machines.

[tall cairn]

[spark sinew]

Reedic was godly there
didn't have yato because i think we had free rolls or something at the end new reedic skin will probably make RA even more laggy

[tall cairn]

HG just wanted to check pcs.

[scarlet fulcrum]

ED2 fine for potato phone outside base, also easier. Inside base like killing ur phone

[tropic valve]

shrimply fight all outside base

[turbid badge]

did u do the calendar

u got 1 10 hh hunting from that

[spark sinew]

no, what calendar

[turbid badge]

Mh calendar

well

it was more of like

log in everyday

and when u finish the board

u get the reward

[spark sinew]

yeah that's probably why i didn't have yato

wanted to go for pots either, but only got her on 120
decided to not bother

[turbid badge]

120 op

[latent anvil]

[tidal sedge]

How to beat cargo escort ce-6

I suck

[somber falcon]

show your ops?

[tidal sedge]

Nah it's fine

Just asked the general

[vernal lion]

Ling

[timid schooner]

blue woman

[sly drift]

Anyone play cn how hard is this sheep theme stages

[vernal lion]

if you follow the event mechanism, it's still fine tho

I think the event has Waterfall, which can stop the sheep from spreading the pink color

[remote berry]

Is there a way to increase the likelihood of spawning specific collectables in IS3? Or is it truly pure luck?

[vernal lion]

it's all about luck tho, that's why this game mode is roguelike

all you need to do is depending on the current relics and pick the right op for the run

[dark glade]

is this pathfinder fin again?

[vernal lion]

even that, you need luck tho

[remote berry]

Nah I'm trying to complete risk/level 15 ending 1 but the collectables matter a lot

[vernal lion]

yea, it's just luck tho

even you're doing d15

[remote berry]

Yup but only ending1. I gave up trying for the others at that level.

[sly drift]

Aren't some relics need other ed to get.
Oh nvm. I thought we talk about collecting relic

[vernal lion]

there likes only one way to beat it without caring about relics
it's just picking all the meta op for the run

https://youtu.be/_nCGS7pAVMA?t=312

[remote berry]

I have all the endings and have collected all but about 3? 4? maybe?
I'm just trying to spawn certain collectables so I can reach my goal faster is all...

Yup except there's a few ops that I don't have that a lot of meta runs use so I have to be a bit more reliant on collectables

[tropic valve]

that's definitely not true, it can be cleared relicless leakless without most of the meta ops

not to discredit the clear there, it's really impressive

[vernal lion]

yea, but you definitely cope for hp

[tropic valve]

leakless as in no hp loss

[vernal lion]

hp lost at d15 is normal, the thing is you need to plan first

[tropic valve]

yeah losing some hp on d15 is fine too, as long as it's not your last one

the main thing is if the bonethrowers kill your ranged unit it's often the difference between 1-5 leaks and 10+ leaks

[vernal lion]

leaking boss is fine, but you need to make sure you have little more than 31 HP

just kill other mobs, don't touch the boss, wait for boss to move to bluebox and redeploy all again

[tropic valve]

ok getting 31 is not very easy

[dark glade]

wait are we leaking bos or ooc now

because highmore is easily solveable with 1-2 carry

[tropic valve]

you'll want the 12 shield reward

[vernal lion]

true, cope for 31 hp is not easy for every run

[dark glade]

with minimal relic too

[tropic valve]

but even that alone isn't enough

[dark glade]

and even easier on mom

[vernal lion]

like you need lots of hp relic for that

[tropic valve]

I'm also not sure how to leak Ishar'mla or Izu'mik gracefully

[vernal lion]

going for safe house won't be enough

[tropic valve]

Knight is straightforward to leak

[dark glade]

cirno have you tried canceling every ishar transformation with weedy

[vernal lion]

I don't think you can leak them, since there is no gate for mob

[tropic valve]

I have not

[dark glade]

thats gota be the dumbest way to leak ishar

[tropic valve]

also did you mean Ishar'mla transformation

[dark glade]

wait ishar

not izumik

[tropic valve]

figured

[dark glade]

izumik i too cant find a way to leak gracefully

[tropic valve]

but building enough life seals to leak ooc (or several oocs in one run) is more realistic than building enough life seals to leak one boss

[vernal lion]

hmm this event is same as ChongYue event

ranged op being supreme

[glass monolith]

Except Chongus was 30% Fragile/DR. Here it is 75% from what i heard

[vernal lion]

op in adjacent tile to waterfall can turn pink tile to white tile by hitting enemy in that said tile

so if you have Stainless...

[glass monolith]

[polar steppe]

sheep?

[vernal lion]

yes, sheep

[scarlet ledge]

sheep hurts

[vernal lion]

sheep balling

[deft nest]

Where can I get Tequila from

[foggy grove]

dossoless record restore

not out yet on en

[deft nest]

Ok

[foggy grove]

should be soonish just keep a watch out

[deft nest]

Is cn server worth getting btw?

[limpid siren]

worth playing on? only if you care about playing the most current content in the game

rerolling on the cn servers isn't nearly as easy as it is for en, jp, and kr though

if that matters to you

[scarlet ledge]

pro rerollers

[limpid siren]

leite pro

[scarlet ledge]

no

[limpid siren]

teach me everything about arknights

i crave knowledge

[scarlet ledge]

strap ur phone to c4

[small thunder]

It's real guys

[tall cairn]

....

Not real.

You must've photoshopped it.

[limpid siren]

i always forget how dogshit the relic is considering it's so rare

[tall cairn]

It doesnt exist.

But yeah god awful.

[scarlet ledge]

lol

[tidal sedge]

They really overestimated the value of revelations

[limpid siren]

the light system is too 'all or nothing' for +light to matter that much

most of the time at least

[tidal sedge]

I can't remember sw15 modifiers, what's the starting light there?

[limpid siren]

70

there are two -15 difficulty steps

but it's just varying degrees of punishment as you go down

there's not much incentive to care about raising light if you can't send it all the way to 100

[tidal sedge]

It does bring light to 100 if you never bled prior to getting it. My suspicion is that they might have been wary it was too easy of a light fix. But even then it's only a chance of getting revelations and you'd need to get it early enough to matter.

[limpid siren]

i think if you accept that they wanted losing light to feel bad then yea that tracks

i don't like comparing it to darkest dungeon, because light there was much more of a risk/reward system

[tidal sedge]

The new light gain relics have a similar issue even though they're more accessible

[tidal sedge]

The paths that occasionally open up at low light are funny. They often have emergency stages and if you're bleeding light to leaking then emergencies would probably just kill you

[limpid siren]

yea the extra paths don't really feel like a benefit at all

[merry narwhal]

rolling a "good" rejection is more important than light tbh

[glass monolith]

Imagine having 100 light

[sly drift]

CN casually dropped the sickest prank

[sullen rover]

wtf they made that one base nerd an operator

[tall cairn]

???

Fun prank.

[sly drift]

I can see Zuo Lee will actually playable tho

Like we have no other candidate lol

[gleaming lodge]

Yes we do
Talulah

[tall cairn]

Is Zuo Le the Sui chef guy?

[foggy grove]

zuo lee playable

i want it but it's kinda cope maybe

[foggy grove]

nah it's the candleholder

[tall cairn]

I just exposed my lore skipping self.

[sly drift]

That design mean to be playable ngl
Regardless of whatever the hell he is on current lore

[foggy grove]

it's okay insider went out from npc jail and i didn't expect that

[merry narwhal]

he kinda was and kinda wasn't

[crisp bolt]

wait wtf are these classes

trapmaster

and another pioneer

Dorothy about to get powercrept by Sui sibling

[cyan gorge]

That's the new sui?

[foggy grove]

what's that

[crisp bolt]

I'm not sure if it's real or not

[limpid siren]

fan-made

[crisp bolt]

yeah there's no way they're doing a trapmaster sui

I'd believe it if it was a sniper

[tidal sedge]

Hey guys im struggling on S2-4.

To the uh protected ones

[crisp bolt]

looking at #cn-lounge it was sourced from some random stream

high quality fakes

It become more apparent when you see this

[cyan gorge]

Place the roadblocks to makes a singular path for the enemies to follow, then set up a blocker + aoe arts accordingly

[limpid siren]

you can set up roadblocks on the x's, then it's just as zenith said

early vanguard can help you block while setting up the roadblocks

ranged tile splash units are good here, then just choke up the bottom right with block count

[tidal sedge]

I uh was putting first the roadblocks and then a melee

[foggy grove]

this stage is a popular "oh i can place box on unmarked place"

[tidal sedge]

This is my loadout btw.

[limpid siren]

what's going wrong?

enemies not dying fast enough?

[crisp bolt]

[limpid siren]

the squad is a bit unbalanced

lots of single-target damage

[tidal sedge]

Im having problems with heavy defenders

[limpid siren]

not a lot of multi-target damage

[crisp bolt]

what ops do you have?

[tidal sedge]

These ones

[crisp bolt]

those are all of your ops?

I mean the ones not in squad

[tidal sedge]

Oh ok

Gimme a sec

There

[limpid siren]

i guess you haven't done much headhunting

[crisp bolt]

or used the selector tickets

[tidal sedge]

I just got 2 6 stars

And uh i think thats it

[limpid siren]

check your inbox, or depot

[crisp bolt]

wait what's the 2nd one?

[limpid siren]

look for two items that are called something like uh

[crisp bolt]

I only see flametail

[limpid siren]

idk 5* recruitment ticket

i don't remember what they're called

one looks like this

[foggy grove]

senior operator something permit

[crisp bolt]

one has a large pool and the other has a smaller pool of 4 ops

[tidal sedge]

Oh nvm I only have a 6 star

Should I spend on this one?

[cyan gorge]

No limited banner in 2 days

wait for that

[tidal sedge]

I have 3 tickets

Ok...

[crisp bolt]

eben is not newbie friendly

[limpid siren]

you have three tickets?

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

[foggy grove]

kernel ticket?

[tidal sedge]

Headhunting permit

[limpid siren]

for those, i'd probably recommend silence from the smallest ticket (the one that has silence, projekt red, liskarm, and pramanix)

[tidal sedge]

K.

[limpid siren]

from the other two, check if one of them has uh

elysium?

idr

but that one's newer

ignore that one for now, pretty sure it doesn't expire

from the last ticket, there are a few popular choices, i prefer lappland because she's a solid early game unit that will help in a few story chapters

[tidal sedge]

Didn't found one with those op

[limpid siren]

for your current squad, looking through your units you have a few levels in basically everyone
try to avoid doing that, because your limited resources can't handle that right now

[limpid siren]

can you screenshot the contents of one of them?

[tidal sedge]

Sure

[limpid siren]

oh hmm

hold on, that's not what i meant sorry

[tidal sedge]

Oh k

[limpid siren]

on the home screen, can you check the envelope button? it's your inbox, how the game sends you freebies and stuff like that

[tidal sedge]

Also this are my uh things (yeah)

[limpid siren]

we're looking for something that looks like this

[tidal sedge]

This ym?

[limpid siren]

yea

collect all of that

any time you see a little red icon on the envelope, go check it out

fun freebies

[tidal sedge]

I think thats the one

[limpid siren]

yea

when you collect that, go into the depot down in the bottom right

[tidal sedge]

"No mail to claim"

[limpid siren]

oh you already grabbed it then

my bad

check the depot, look for these two yellow things

[tidal sedge]

:0

[limpid siren]

big

the only bad pick there is pramanix
my preferred choice is silence

she's a comfy medic with good healing potential

[tidal sedge]

I would have like 4 medics?

[limpid siren]

that's okay, there's >250 operators in the game

you'll have a lot of duplicate roles eventually

[tidal sedge]

So... i choose silence?

[limpid siren]

it's up to you

liskarm is a utility defender, and projekt red is a fast redeploy specialist

[frigid cove]

liskarm better imo

[limpid siren]

there's not really a wrong answer, but i think silence is bother easier to use and more impactful than most medics for a new player

[tidal sedge]

.

[limpid siren]

good choice

[frigid cove]

her sp charging can carry on to end game

[limpid siren]

for the second ticket, the popular choices are lappland (comfy early game ground dps), specter (takes a bit more investment than lappland, but still good), and warfarin (a late game pick)

[tidal sedge]

Now I have to open the 5 star one.

[limpid siren]

you might also consider one of the marksman snipers there, because your sniper lineup right now is

not good

[tidal sedge]

Wow so many...

[vernal lion]

is this Kaiba's 3-headed dragon, Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon?

[crisp bolt]

might as well be

[vernal lion]

Yu-Gi-Oh collab when

[tidal sedge]

There's like 4 ranged op

[limpid siren]

blue poison and platinum are the ones you would care about, they're marksman

[tidal sedge]

K

[limpid siren]

firewatch is too specialised to care about, and provence is too clunky

blue poison leans into multi-target damage, platinum can eventually increase her range and hits harder than the average marksman

[tidal sedge]

I think this one is good choice.

[limpid siren]

it's your call

[tidal sedge]

Well spended it

[limpid siren]

you'll get another one of these 5* selector tickets in a few days when the anniversary event starts, but cross that bridge when you get there

as for your team

you're giving levels to too many operators

from now, and for a while, try to avoid that
stick to about 12 or so operators you want to use

i can give you my recommendations for your squad if you'd like

[tidal sedge]

Yeah maybe that will be helpful

[limpid siren]

- flametail, vigna
- melantha,
- beagle, liskarm
- blue poison, kroos
- amiya, lava/12f
- hibiscus, perfumer

your guard and caster lineups right now are weak, but save your headhunting pulls until the next event starts - you'll get a bunch of free pulls during the event too, so hopefully you can fill some gaps then

beagle can be upgraded to someone like cuora when you get her, she'll fill the main tank role
liskarm is the off-tank, she has some utility after her first promotion that can be fun to play around with

the next event has eyjafjalla the hvit aska, one of the best medics in the game
if you get her, boot hibiscus and use eyja instead
perfumer is a multi-target medic, it's nice to have one of each (single-target and multi-target) as they cover each other's weaknesses

fit whoever you want in the 12th slot, there's not really any great options for that slot right now, avoid giving this unit too many levels though

i don't want to talk too much about every little upgrade you can do, because it would be overwhelming

you don't need to rush into using liskarm btw, noir corne will still be fine until she catches up in levels

[tidal sedge]

K

Currently my loadout

[limpid siren]

it will take a bit of time for blue poison and liskarm to catch up

what's your base looking like?

[tidal sedge]

Well.....

Lemme I show ya

[limpid siren]

do you have any more of these things? they're called Keel, you can upgrade your control center with them

you may consider visiting #r-i-i-c to seek some advice about developing your base, as it's eventually a good source of passive income (lmd and exp)

it's also necessary for some promotions and operator development

[tidal sedge]

I have only 1

[limpid siren]

it's going to be a bit of a balancing act for you for a while, between developing your base, and your squad (which is why it's important to focus on ~12 operators instead of everyone)

[shrewd hull]

You only get them by clearing certain stages in the story,

[limpid siren]

i don't have much advice for base stuff, mostly because i don't really care about it

yea the next ones should be at 3-4 and then 4-7

[tidal sedge]

What I do if a op has his happiness low

[limpid siren]

put them in the dorm

they'll recover their morale while resting there

[tidal sedge]

Yeah about that.

[shrewd hull]

If there is even the smallest amount of ambiance, within time they’ll recover

Your recovery rate is 1.9, which is pretty good starting out, so you can expect an op to recover 1.9 ambiance beverage per hour spent in dorms. There are also ops with dorm centered base skills to increase the rate of morale recovery

[tidal sedge]

Just did a few things.

[polar crane]

make sure it's 1.6+0.4

or 1k total ambience

[limpid siren]

i'd live there

[turbid badge]

same ill live with jessica

[fathom compass]

Just finished making my base and upgrading everything for the 2-5-2 )/ but realize I havent done the "4000 ambience in one dorm". Would it still work if I get those points with a lvl 1 dorm, or would I need to downgrade everything and fully upgrade a dorm for it to count?

[limpid siren]

The latter

[fathom compass]

Gotchu, thank you

[dark violet]

can't wait for waves caster subclass with hopper range that gains a bigger line with skill active

think hand of purification

[turbid badge]

dw we will get another snipersubclass

“chain sniper”

[dark violet]

crying

[tidal sedge]

Hey yall, is this good for S2-4?

I am having problems with elite defenders.

And idk which melee use for defend

[boreal orbit]

From what I saw, that map was full of armored guys. I think maybe you can bring another AOE Arts like Lava and try to double team 12F and Lava on a chokepoint using the blocks.

[tidal sedge]

Do you know a good spot for lava and the rest?

[dark violet]

you've got a great first 6* I see. She'll be quite a support without being a boring carry

[tidal sedge]

Hmm

I added lava

[boreal orbit]

I'm not sure where you can place them since I don't remember the map that well but blocks should provide you some way to choke the middle of the map and as long as you're not overwhelmed by the enemies, you can place the dps in the left side

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its all about roadblocks play

[tidal sedge]

Oh I see

I was thinking putting it here.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sure

Do u have steward now?

[boreal orbit]

YOu can even add an additional block below that middle blue dot for omega choke

[tidal sedge]

Nah I dont..

[verbal sparrow]

Do people still use Irene nowadays

[scarlet fulcrum]

just try with ur unit first, u have more than enough sustain for this stage

[verbal sparrow]

I've noticed it's been a while I've used her out of SSS

[tidal sedge]

Should I use melees for defend or rangers...

[scarlet fulcrum]

Satisfying in sss atleast, and farming for last kill

[scarlet fulcrum]

Use defender and medic

[boreal orbit]

Defenders should be your defense.

If you're talking about how Liskarm is ranged, she's still a Defender, and a really good one.

Use her!

[tidal sedge]

Ok I have two options beagle or liss

Ok

[dark violet]

liskarm is your best defending option yea

does she have her sp talent at 0?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nope

[dark violet]

ah, too bad

[tidal sedge]

Idk what to do first, put the roadblocks or put defense

[dark violet]

probably put flametail first on th blue box

she'll generate dp and handle deefense

[scarlet fulcrum]

Roadblock, enemy slow af here

[tidal sedge]

I have an idea, I put 3 roadblocks quickly and then save for defender.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Either fine tho, ops first better like above said