strategy

[deft badger]

not really

its easy

[fickle ravine]

Thanks sir
I would try it

[deft badger]

top right

there is one guy spawning

[peak cloak]

since pause trick has come back on EN, how u guys do this thing on Emulator? i can do it on mobile but no eyes deer on Emulator.

[deft badger]

like in he-6

has ammo

[fickle ravine]

Appreciated it wish me luck

For terra

[deft badger]

bot canons from chocolate street

rest is just useless

[deft badger]

what do u mean with pause trick?

A1. The pause trick / pause deployment method was a gameplay technique that allowed players to deploy units while the game was paused.

ok nvm

google 😄

whats the back button on android?

[limpid siren]

press escape when you have a unit dragged

typically this key is bound to 'back'

toddi with spuria buff still misses the fucking fill

6.3k damage

per hit

and she still misses the kill

[tropic valve]

it's a tricky emergency but it's not as bad as like Territorial Tendencies

main thing is you need to bait the rockets from the bottom

and protect your gelato

if you lose the gelato it can quickly snowball from leakless to 20+ leaks

[fickle ravine]

#thanks sir, I did win

[tidal sedge]

Oh

[tropic valve]

nice

[peak cloak]

have u never heard about it before?

[deft badger]

nope

[peak cloak]

thats why

[limpid siren]

nvm boys we get the kill

i forgot i only had mod2 toddi

[peak cloak]

ah, so i need to change keybind to Esc? is there any need for second keybind for pause?

[limpid siren]

esc is the default keybind for "back" for most emulators

[karmic glade]

Yes, there is a cooldown

So if you bind a key on the pause button, and esc as back, you can do 0 frame deploy

[tropic valve]

toddi good

[turbid badge]

do u have her pot

[peak cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-andy-dwyer-omg-shocked-face-meme-gif-25585329

[limpid siren]

p4

[peak cloak]

lets me try again

[limpid siren]

needs atk pot and mod3

mod2 misses the kill

[turbid badge]

oh u miss the talent pot no(

[limpid siren]

yea missing talent pot

[halcyon adder]

So spuria good with besiegers huh

[limpid siren]

idk if good is the right word for it

[turbid badge]

uhh

[turbid badge]

why u keeping her alive

[limpid siren]

wdym

she's dying

[turbid badge]

ik but couldnt u jusr retreat her

[limpid siren]

not like her damage matters

[turbid badge]

i thought big brain stragey with rng manip

[limpid siren]

what rng

[deft badger]

did try it its esc on bluestacks but i rarely use even the pause button ...

[dark glade]

Arknights player not pausing the game?

Blasphemy

[deft badger]

when i was playing on my phone i did, don't remember the last time i was playing on phone..
anyway speed change is the only thing i need

[karmic glade]

Esc have a cooldown of like 1 secs, so if you want to do something like this you would need to bind your pause as well

[turbid badge]

lmdalao

[deft badger]

arrived in my moms home country first thing in the morning power outage while i am in IS 🚮

[full finch]

uninteruptable power supply

[deft badger]

bro 30 years in germany and austria, never saw a power outage xD

[glass monolith]

So brain damage from HE- stages caused Doc to unlock Stand ability?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dude never touch grass

[deft badger]

its winter no grass

[turbid badge]

💀

[halcyon adder]

Is there any good and stable trust farm for he8? I changed my trust farm like 5 times and it still keeps failing

[scarlet fulcrum]

sapa random spawn

[vernal lion]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-ling-gaming-gif-27406388

[spark sinew]

how do you bind your pause again?

[karmic glade]

depends on your emu

[halcyon adder]

Hi

[dark glade]

what do you bind pause for tho?

with pause deploy ESC is just the superior button

[spark sinew]

seems to have a cooldown? noticed it myself as well

[dark glade]

no?

i just did the thing

[karmic glade]

try spamming esc

[dark glade]

wait i just fail the tr stage

oh ok i can feel it now

but why isit sometime there sometime not

im confusion

[spark sinew]

can't find a way to bind on mumu 6

but i'm probably just blind

[spark sinew]

block those spots, auto always works for me
need some answer to the bottom guys leaking/spawning on bot, so I use fourth op for that

[thorny isle]

ling solo is stable

[spark sinew]

you should shill scene solo

[thorny isle]

i would if the block count debuff dont exist

[dark glade]

hmm yea slightly delayed pause

[scarlet fulcrum]

Still gud, u will only need 2 3 ops at most when using it in actual usage

[dark glade]

yea

this is just for fancy auto

[karmic glade]

it's mainly for frame precise operation, not really needed for daily usage

[turbid badge]

Nope its needed

neded for bugs

and triks

[deft badger]

wondering if we are going to get something tomorrow ingame 😂

[peak cloak]

frostnova banner?

[thorny isle]

ur dailies, that's for sure

[scarlet ledge]

@scarlet fulcrum i love 5 sniper b stack on any besieger

rosa and typhon is just dumb

on this map

[vernal lion]

wtf

boss' still alive?

[odd badge]

(HE-8) Guys I need some help here cus I'm either stupid or this maps buggy as hell. So basically the civillians are supposed to stop at the green 🟢 tile (based on my other runs and some YouTube videos I watched) , but for some reason they stop at the red 🔴 tile instead. When it lands in green I can easily block them from the rolling rocks from the top but I can't do it when they are on the tile on the left, since the splash damage still damage the civs anyway and they die before they can even get to their next checkpoint.

[karmic glade]

are you using ines or mostima?

[odd badge]

AHH yes that explains everything, Ines was probably slowing the boss down.

Thanks for the help.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Pog. Interesting map, still looks easy with ranged ops i love wd map

[scarlet ledge]

deadge

[scarlet ledge]

its full range ops gaming

on this sss

90% of enemy

is aerial

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah WD like event

[proud drift]

does horny need M9 or can her S1 stay on M1?

[spark sinew]

depends
the only time where i noticed the lack of s1m3 was actually this event

s1m1 doesn't two shot the mob on HE-8

all other times i was fine, i'd say just leave it at m1

[cyan gorge]

s3m3, s1m1 should be the bare minimum

[spark sinew]

oh yeah probably don't s2m3

unless you really know what you're doing

like some defenderknight shit

[cyan gorge]

Do it only if you like melee Horn or nuke memes

[proud drift]

o

[spark sinew]

in IS it's kinda crap anyway

[proud drift]

I thought her s2 sees use as a versatilty tool for when you want to burst an enemy like an elite

[spark sinew]

you use s3

[cyan gorge]

Yeah but like, why not use s3 or any other burst dps

[proud drift]

ig

[spark sinew]

s2 has "singular" big burst but that's not been relevant in forever

s3 is just nice

[cyan gorge]

she can still punch something to death with s3 while blocking

[spark sinew]

very fast as well

[blissful mantle]

Is HE-8 a good spot to use perfumer and gravel? I completed the level other than the civvies dying.

[proud drift]

perfumer doesn't heal civvies

probably

seeing as Ines and Mostima slows them

[cyan gorge]

You can't heal civies

[proud drift]

guy wanted to probs use Perfumer's passive for it

like you would for the funny ch8 stage

but civvies are coded as enemies in this p.sure

[blissful mantle]

Gravel is to throw infront of the rocks.

[proud drift]

yeah but why not just throw a healing defender in front of it

or a defender with a healer supporting it

you want someone in front of the rock to have 3+ block

[spark sinew]

gravel works yeah

[cyan gorge]

If you pay attention to the rock paths, you only need 3-4 blockers for the whole map

[spark sinew]

don't use ines/mosti and figure out the stage, it;s more like a puzzle

actually do ambusher's modules slow the boss as well?

[cyan gorge]

yes

[proud drift]

[blissful mantle]

Yeah, my shield duo was blem/penance. Putting Nearl there probably better.

[proud drift]

blem should work fine with s2?

[cyan gorge]

Blemi is more than enough

[spark sinew]

we found a reason to unequip modules then

ty hg

[blissful mantle]

She can sleep the civvies?

[proud drift]

no

she can tank the rocks

S2 has defensive recovery

so rocks should regen her S2

with occassional helidrops

can put her by the bottom left rock too and she will have more enemies going thru there

the most important rocks to block are bottom left next to red points and top right closes to blue point

the one next to top right is only needed near the end of the stage

you can patch up the two holes on the left before they walk thru them

[spark sinew]

i saw s1 being used as well

[proud drift]

S1 would work bottom left, not sure top right

[spark sinew]

it was for top right yeah

[proud drift]

wtf

[spark sinew]

s2 would charge too slowly from rocks i think

[proud drift]

I guess the rocks just deal that little damage

[blissful mantle]

I can plonk Nearl at top then. Blem S1 fits lower space fine.

[tidal sedge]

3 frds is all you need for rocks, or healing defenders if not in enemies' paths

[proud drift]

ya I have Kaltsit mont3r blocking bottom left, saria top right and mudrock the middle left red point

though saria kinda needed some help with a mob near the end cause -2 block + helidrop = bowling ball go thru

[cyan gorge]

Spalter, Gladiia, Gummy, Ines 4 op

[proud drift]

oh yeah

gladiia works very well too doesn't she

[tidal sedge]

Yalter yolo

[proud drift]

more like sexas s2

[tidal sedge]

yalter kills everything in that stage with S2

[proud drift]

so does texas with s2

[tidal sedge]

used her for -block

[cyan gorge]

self healing reigns supreme in this event

[spark sinew]

yato s2 solo?

[blissful mantle]

Yeah, stun sexas not needed. Dmg sexas.

[spark sinew]

are you sure it clears?

civs are a bit squishy

and they sure like to stand in rock path

[vernal lion]

damn I would like to see Yato solo ENTIRELY that stage

[blissful mantle]

Thorns if you are trolling.

[spark sinew]

oh, yolo

not solo

[tidal sedge]

she has exact enough to kill the big guys with the swords

with M3 Mod3

[vernal lion]

so she can kill 2 dogs in 2 different, faraway places?

damn

[tidal sedge]

who said that?

[vernal lion]

I thought Yato really solo that stage

[tidal sedge]

[vernal lion]

but Ling can

[spark sinew]

scene can

[vernal lion]

yea she can

[bitter cedar]

hello is anyone willing to help me with the event please

[cyan gorge]

What part of event specifically?

[glass monolith]

Which part of event doesn't suck?

[turbid badge]

Which part of event , the tutorial?

[vernal lion]

[bitter cedar]

everything after elite 2 lvl 2-0

[foggy grove]

Wattson which level is that

[glass monolith]

Literally nobody refers to recommended level of stages because it carry 0 value (It just says how much BS stage is)

[foggy grove]

[vernal lion]

HE-7 and later are recommended for E2

[glass monolith]

HE-7 is e2 10, HE-8 is e2 20 and it is last time in 2023 i will say recommended level

[bitter cedar]

yah..im lvl 30

2 weeks intothe game

[vernal lion]

just farm the lower levels

[glass monolith]

That's not even which level is refered here

[vernal lion]

unless you're a whale, if all your op are not even E1, just farm the easier levels

[spark sinew]

did you find ling

no one responded?

[glass monolith]

It took me about 3 months into game to start more or less winning those events, L on DH, L on Vigilo, small w on CC6 (Apparently getting Chalter start was balanced), W on MN rerun and afterwards

[bitter cedar]

e 1 lvl 50

and 1 e2 lvl 30

[vernal lion]

post your squad

[bitter cedar]

with this team i almost beat it

but the end is the issue

i use fang ,scav and gravel as early eco into heavy heroes

which works

[vernal lion]

you're in HE-7 now?

[bitter cedar]

ye

[vernal lion]

use plank and rock to beat that stage easily

[vernal lion]

the issue is not totally from your op

if you don't know how to beat a stage easily

[bitter cedar]

im actually on he 8

beated he 7

[vernal lion]

but

why there's no attacker op lol

all I see is just defender and op with supporting skill

[spark sinew]

oh god proviso

[vernal lion]

Utage is just med

[bitter cedar]

utage and the panter guy are the fighters

[vernal lion]

you really want to wait for 1 minute to deploy her again?

[bitter cedar]

i love using her so ig so

she holds amazingly up there

[vernal lion]

ok

I can understand

[bitter cedar]

the issue is that there are 2 random fuckos

at the ed

that swung from nowhere

[vernal lion]

if you don't build op probably, it will be issue

[bitter cedar]

an dspawn behind the mid

i dont really have anyone that great tbh

aand since i got her she helped me clear everything unil rn

[vernal lion]

also the event is really refered for arts dmg, because enemy sniper is like 400 def

[bitter cedar]

yah that is why i dont us esnipers in the team

[vernal lion]

but you use like 4 defenders and a bunch of vg

[bitter cedar]

like i dont have many good arts dmg heroes

[cyan gorge]

Click is good for arts

[vernal lion]

Steward is also your early good arts dealer

[bitter cedar]

ican elite 2 1 hero

elite 1

i mean

ig i can elite 1 her

and use her

just for the event

bc i dont like her

[vernal lion]

why don't you just use these op lol

e1 lv55 Gitano?

Amiya?

you said that you don't have arts dealers but look at that

[bitter cedar]

they dont even leave a dent

in the enemies smh

like at all

[vernal lion]

there's Ling solo HE-8, if you would like to beat it, then just copy it

[bitter cedar]

ye

problem is

i cant find anyone who has ling

and

i did find 1'

[cyan gorge]

#friend-id

[bitter cedar]

but he is using the wrong skill

i did

[spark sinew]

wow

[bitter cedar]

i spend an unholy amout of time there

[cyan gorge]

probably cause you didn't have an e2 in the squad

[bitter cedar]

i want the one that switches no attack

and everyone is using the burst ice dmg

for some reason

[spark sinew]

the what

[bitter cedar]

which is sht

[spark sinew]

are you borrowing ling while you have utage in squad

[vernal lion]

I think he mean Gnosis

[bitter cedar]

this garbage skill

[spark sinew]

LING

not LIN

[bitter cedar]

who tf is that

[vernal lion]

[bitter cedar]

i dont know every hero in this game chill

[vernal lion]

yea this is LING, not LIN

[bitter cedar]

oh btw

is the new atcher good

[cyan gorge]

6* summoner supporter

[bitter cedar]

the 15 cost one

[spark sinew]

the above LIN skill is correct btw

[vernal lion]

Insider?

[bitter cedar]

ye

[vernal lion]

not really

[spark sinew]

idt i ever seen her use not s3

[bitter cedar]

i dislike it

i like the normal slow attack'

[vernal lion]

he's kinda just a support sniper

[cyan gorge]

Yes phalanx casters have slow aspd

[bitter cedar]

ye i like the sword skill

helps me muuuuuch more than that burst skill

[vernal lion]

actually Lin is not garbage, it's just her archetype role

[bitter cedar]

never said lin is garbage

i said that skill is

[spark sinew]

if you're not using lin s3 you're probably using her wrong but lemme even read her s2

[cyan gorge]

it's her best skill tho

[bitter cedar]

i like theother one

that makes her attack onece

and slow everuone around her

[foggy grove]

He is trying to use phalanx like normal caster

[bitter cedar]

not the ones you gotta activate

yah

[foggy grove]

[spark sinew]

[bitter cedar]

thank u exa

[vernal lion]

he mean s1

[bitter cedar]

thats exactly how i use her

[vernal lion]

but

I just refer s1 for roguelike content tho

[spark sinew]

omg

[bitter cedar]

well

[spark sinew]

this is the first time i see it m3

[bitter cedar]

i am not end game..

again,, u are speaking to 2 week old lvl 30 player..

[spark sinew]

does it gain much from masteries?

[bitter cedar]

what i need and what you need are 2 different things

[spark sinew]

it honestly doesn't look that terrible

oh wait i remembered the og phalanx range, nvm

[vernal lion]

+20% atk, but I only use her for afk and roguelike

[bitter cedar]

so yes i am looking for that lin

[spark sinew]

why are you looking for lin at all

[bitter cedar]

but nobody is using the s1 skill

[stuck ermine]

i've used insider quite a while in is3. for me he's pretty good. raise his trust and he can be powerful than other 5* marksman

[vernal lion]

Ling or Lin?

[bitter cedar]

lin

[spark sinew]

i told him to just borrow ling yesterday am i to blame for all this

[vernal lion]

[bitter cedar]

i need lin with e1 skill

[spark sinew]

i'm sure i said ling

[bitter cedar]

i mean

1st skill

[foggy grove]

Insider mostly only good for new acc

[vernal lion]

Lin s1 ?

[bitter cedar]

ye

i think ill be able to do a lot with that in this event

ill be able to let her molest an entire lane while i focus somewhere else

[cyan gorge]

Is there even anything in the event you need to slow instead of just killing?

[spark sinew]

slow in fact griefs you sometimes

[bitter cedar]

trust me she does a lot of dmg

[spark sinew]

although lin probably won't do it because she needs to hit

[bitter cedar]

especially in my level

she is a god among mortals

just shield off a place

use her and i forget that lane exists

most likely even 2 lanes

helps a lot with farming too

i am super active so a lin like that will be amazing

will help me even farm the materials for my base

[vernal lion]

that's the purpose of TD game lol

[bitter cedar]

bc i struggle with the final material stage

[cyan gorge]

I can do the same with May s1m3, I guess that makes her a god too

[bitter cedar]

well

i dont have may

uwu

i got my first caster 2 days ago

and i suffer

[cyan gorge]

May is a 4* marksman sniper

[spark sinew]

i can do the same with leizi with unequipped module

i knew she's a god

[bitter cedar]

and my utage kills stuff and i dont have to unequip anything bc she has nothing uwu]

[cyan gorge]

Utage mod only increases her survivability

[spark sinew]

do you guys think he just jokes around

[bitter cedar]

hm?

im doing my best here okay

[spark sinew]

like you going for Lin instead on Lin_g_ when people recommend it to you, "uwu-ing" and other stuff

[bitter cedar]

well

i dont have aling \

a ling\

[cyan gorge]

That's what #friend-id is for

find a Ling

[bitter cedar]

and i already sent 13 requests for it

[spark sinew]

you're trying to borrow Lin
you can do the same with Ling ling is also more common

[bitter cedar]

what else am i supposed to do

other than wait\

[cyan gorge]

You're trying to do HE-8, right?

[spark sinew]

i think sl7 would probably work

[bitter cedar]

yes

[spark sinew]

so you can just refresh in-game for some rando Ling

[vernal lion]

his squad is just full bunch of defender, not much dmg

not to say the boss will apply aspd debuff on your op

[bitter cedar]

i got my first caster other than amya 2 days ago

[spark sinew]

-2 block is probably brutal if your damage sucks

[cyan gorge]

You have no phys dps either

[spark sinew]

you just gonna leak everything and you can't kill them fast either

[vernal lion]

this event becomes issue for new player, Idk when Harold event coming it will be much trouble for them too

because E2 can't even stall the boss

[spark sinew]

i heard harold event was considered fairly easy but maybe it's for old players

god knows new players will suffer on eyja

[bitter cedar]

sigh

[proud drift]

I think a strong dps borrow should help

cuz keep in mind

if the boss is doing -2 block

then there's no -aspd

so something like goldenglow can work at clearing the map out

or eyja in the middle with s3

though gl cycling that

[spark sinew]

well for borrow yeah you can just Ling solo

i was thinking more for auto

[cyan gorge]

He needs to build more dps before he can auto

[proud drift]

I feel like many boss stages are hard to auto for new players

ngl

I struggled to auto a bunch of event boss stages when I was new

I remember the uhh

IC boss was a struggle for new players

wasn't it

can always just kyostin or eckogen the stage but idk if either do auto setups for the stages

[spark sinew]

what was IC

[proud drift]

the funny drone

[spark sinew]

oh, summer event

[cyan gorge]

Vehicular manslaughter

[spark sinew]

i was thinking about Ya as being bs to fight for new players

[vernal lion]

because it's a flying thing, and has barrier, and buff 20% atk for mechina

[spark sinew]

or however that guy was called
on chong event

[cyan gorge]

It was hard until you remember cars give buffs too

[proud drift]

would kroos be able to handle the drone tho

[spark sinew]

you probably need to chip him forever and bait attacks

[cyan gorge]

Kroos2 + buffer/debuff yeah

[vernal lion]

do you think Kroos can handle Raptor in chip stage?

[proud drift]

would a new player have kroos2

[proud drift]

I actually dunno about that

I don't remember how i handled raptor in my early days

[cyan gorge]

normal Kroos with some redeploying is possible to kill

tho Insider is now an option too

[spark sinew]

the tiles buff your damage by a lot don't they

[cyan gorge]

idk how he fares with buffs tho

[vernal lion]

Insider is good because he refers ranged attack enemy with his s2

[proud drift]

depends per stage

Anti-Air Runes reduce the ASPD of friendly units on them by 20 but increases their ATK against aerial enemies to 1.7×.

[spark sinew]

but all marskman will attack drones anyway

[proud drift]

in case of the raptor stage

[spark sinew]

well the context is the second chip stage i assume

[proud drift]

Yeah

I don't think the skill book stage

has a tile?

[vernal lion]

no

[spark sinew]

newbies won't need to run book stage anyway

[proud drift]

first time clear ig

but I just fiammetta s3 my book stage

[spark sinew]

can just support if one-time only

[proud drift]

ig it also heavily depends on what unit the newbie has

cuz a newbie can have a very easy time if he has good starting units

like for example the chip stage is much easier if you have an archetto, right

or an exusiai

cuz exu is a pretty generic starter

[spark sinew]

well you would only run it for e2ing anyway
so you would have at least one e1max sniper

exu is gonna be very very uncommon on new accs

[proud drift]

is it now?

[spark sinew]

but yeah archetto is new exu

[proud drift]

did they change starter banner

[spark sinew]

newbie banner has archetto now yeah

[proud drift]

damn

lucky mfs

[spark sinew]

older units are in kernel or recruit

[proud drift]

I wish I could pull it

I want pot6 cheeto

😭

[spark sinew]

start new acc

reroll for p6 chetto

see you in a couple years

[proud drift]

I'm satisfied with how this account started ngl

I started on ling banner

at the end of it

rerolled into 3 lings

(I was trying to reroll for dusk, but I was forced to accept the 3 lings)

[spark sinew]

oh you started not that long ag...

oh god it's been 2 years almost

[proud drift]

I took a break from Sexas event to PO as well

so I missed 2 CCs

which is at least 2 sniper pots probably

wait I need to do daily rotation cc trainings that I missed

then I can buy the last token

(I'm missing 14 currency )

[spark sinew]

oh you actually use those?

i thought they're meant to sit around in depot

[proud drift]

use what

the currency or tokens

[spark sinew]

both
tokens

[proud drift]

well

sweaty players see them "only use them on very meta units"

I see them as "I simp this character so hard I'm throwing away investment for them"

[foggy grove]

Classic hoarder just hoarding

[radiant mesa]

I had to use my sniper royale tokens last cc for easier timings

Only have 12 supporter left

[cyan gorge]

I bought 5* tokens just for pot6 Firewhistle

[fast basin]

Ull never be as based as disa cus he used his tokens for gladiia

[spark sinew]

[fast basin]

Wait, was it oofie or disa

I forgor

[spark sinew]

disa had p5 glad

i sure hope it wasn't p4+ 4tokens

[limpid siren]

remember khang?

used spec tokens on gladiia, despite having all her tokens from sn

then traded her last pot for 10 certs

[turbid badge]

khang

[spark sinew]

@bitter cedar go add #friend-id

a guy with almost maxed ling

[fast basin]

Truly the arknights moment of all time, efficiency to gamble at its finest

[lapis hornet]

lmao

khang was so proud of it too

he was showing off the ss every chance he got

[latent anvil]

pro

[fast basin]

He thought he played the game

Overcooked

[narrow elk]

Is the Kal’sit banner worth chasing at this stage of the game?

[latent anvil]

what stage of the game

[narrow elk]

Just where we are with Operators and such.

[latent anvil]

Kaltsit and surtr are both rly good but typhon coming

And exalt is also really good too

[fast basin]

I'd wait for Typhon tbh

[latent anvil]

Standard banners are just sad anyway

[spark sinew]

i would probably go exalter

5* on kal/surtr also suck

exalter you at least get canta

[cyan gorge]

You can off banner Exe, Kal, and Surt all from Typhon

[fast basin]

The w on exalt banner is spuria

[spark sinew]

skip typhon and offbanner her on arturia

[fast basin]

[spark sinew]

personally i'm really not sold on typhon

[cyan gorge]

me neither

Exe2 looks more fun

[fast basin]

personally I'm really not sold on typhon

[spark sinew]

well typhon is like WWW

if spuria is w

so i'm not sure what you don't like

[fast basin]

Spuria bein a w is a joke

[spark sinew]

i know

[fast basin]

[spark sinew]

i also know that you were joking by copying my message

i'm also just joking around

[fast basin]

O

[sharp scroll]

How to beat lt-6 mama John with this ops?

[cosmic thicket]

first wave bot lane u can handle with ops with no stacks, but I'd want to set up mlynar for bottom relatively quickly to kill the defense crushers
irene for the top lane robots is fine

what's your tac equipment, aegirian thingamajig?

[sharp scroll]

Yup

[cosmic thicket]

my condolences

i assume this is standard env

so you should still be fine

[sharp scroll]

Oh , I see. Thanks

[spark sinew]

just needed to clear for mission i assume?

[sharp scroll]

Ye

[cosmic thicket]

oh you brought support mudrock

spalter support would be much less painful in the future for completing this

or a built gladiia

[spark sinew]

honestly your carries are good enough even without mud yeah

[cosmic thicket]

yeah

u already have irene mlynar chungus

[spark sinew]

i didn't try executor but i assume he's ok at worst

[cosmic thicket]

he probably wants aspd and SP

[spark sinew]

penance is really good as well

[cosmic thicket]

to cycle to his big hit faster

[vernal lion]

I hope you have enough DP to deploy your op

[cosmic thicket]

7 vgs is fine

[spark sinew]

caster wise i would probably cut the fodder

bring e0 sups

or more vangs

[cosmic thicket]

i mean the squad is the squad

[spark sinew]

well yeah, for the future consideration i suppose

[cosmic thicket]

lin is unironically really funny for mama johns

[spark sinew]

like e0 bards are really good

really cheap fodder

[vernal lion]

Lin and GG just destroyed Mama SSS

[cosmic thicket]

btw what do u think optimal comp is for emerge mama johns deathless

[vernal lion]

I think much issue is from LT-4 and 5

5 is pretty anti arts dmg

[cosmic thicket]

thinking smth like this

[spark sinew]

texas kafka red?

[cosmic thicket]

mlynar over chongyue but i don't have him or irene

[spark sinew]

what are you cooking

[cosmic thicket]

intermediaries

im running spec b

[vernal lion]

I use specB

[cosmic thicket]

basically "stacks but they also actually do something"

[spark sinew]

i would go for e0 sups instead

but ig you also try to cope GG

[cosmic thicket]

id rather not pay more to draw something i can just draw

[spark sinew]

you need healing/tankier shit for 6

[cosmic thicket]

oh good point

[vernal lion]

Lin and GG with 60 aspd, 100 atk and 2 sp are so funny lol

[cosmic thicket]

ange for lumen then

[spark sinew]

if we don't rely on rng at all, swapping 2 guys for nearl saria should be fine

regular mama john right

for the medal

[vernal lion]

emergency

[cosmic thicket]

i already got the medal

im just doing this for fun

[spark sinew]

ah, so just challenge run what's eyja for

i think she's doing nothing here

[cosmic thicket]

vanguard A that kills some leaking trash mobs with s2 or is another nuke

[spark sinew]

to get her as helidrop nuke in time for the map6 you would need to have favorable rng

[cosmic thicket]

ill just deploy her earlier

[spark sinew]

good luck getting her especially with 3 fast redeploys clogging the hand

[cosmic thicket]

i mean they're useful for chungus irene lin and others

im probably gonna cut gravel tho

[spark sinew]

i got curious as well

who are the shittier carries there

i'm thinking exalter mud chong are 3 of the worse ones?

but

[cosmic thicket]

probably penance

[spark sinew]

penance and mud don't help much yeah i think

[cosmic thicket]

for mama johns idk if she kills a def crusher in time

[spark sinew]

high cost and low "range"

[cosmic thicket]

chungus on f6 gets better if he has someone in front of him imo

he doesn't survive a def crusher hit

[spark sinew]

also looking at equipments, this is probably the best because two others are just eugh
so kinda want to not just vg stack

[cosmic thicket]

yeah

that's why i brought eyja so she acts as a vg stack but not a vg stack

[remote atlas]

Yes.

[spark sinew]

that's why you censor

[cosmic thicket]

ill see if kafka sucks here if she does ill cut her for specter

[spark sinew]

looks garbage

[lapis hornet]

why's your ss so yellow

[cosmic thicket]

he peed all over it

clearly

[spark sinew]

just for you

[lapis hornet]

damb

I used mud/penance myself, kinda winged it

if you have suzu s2 behind them crusher won't get past your defender anyway

like they'll get stunned, crushers are slowed, your defender recovers, back to square 1 etc

[cosmic thicket]

will it never splitbox on the other side?

[lapis hornet]

I'm not sure what happens if you leave it long enough, I just killed them with gg

• suzu

• eyja when there was a big wave I just push s3 lol

my main issue first time was all the rockets/gundams were actually chunking mud cause I hadn't given her any stacks

[cosmic thicket]

oh

[tidal sedge]

What's crusher movespeed again

0.5, so minimum movespeed when slowed

Travels 0.35 tiles in 7 seconds. So assuming gapless slow, it should work

[latent anvil]

I thought screenshots don't capture nightlight

[spark sinew]

you are correct though

[spark sinew]

run from it

mutual aid still will haunt you

rip deathless emergency run
it's for the best

[somber stone]

/cert6

Guys s2 gives monst3r

[spark sinew]

just failed copypaste

probably ping a mod to fix

[deft badger]

since when can shaw give advices on ops?

didn't even know that xD

[surreal star]

keep bot commands in #bot-spam please

[somber stone]

✅

[tropic valve]

funny that in IS2, they wouldn't put drones until F3

and even then it was a very easy drone map

and now we have Mutual Aid

[latent anvil]

me leaking 5 on mutual aid every single time

[tropic valve]

5? not 2?

[latent anvil]

3 floaty and two last guy, sometimes all 3 last enemy too i am pro

[spark sinew]

should've started with e2 QB

[latent anvil]

trrue

tho even though i leak 5 or 6 i can still win

[spark sinew]

some jank start to leak 5 ngl

i'm almost curious how

[glass monolith]

Good luck on high D where those 2 bros are fucking raid boss

[latent anvil]

im not ready for d3 yet

[spark sinew]

eh even og kroos clears them doesn't she i mostly start krooster so i never leak them

[glass monolith]

Maybe it has to do with me poking fingers into each emergency even on d12 because i can

[tropic valve]

I have bad news about d4

it's one of the big jumps

[spark sinew]

it's fine

you just get free mantle

gaul mantle

[glass monolith]

Fun is disabled

[spark sinew]

ty igneus

also weedy's cannon can push enemies from the middle tile, so you end anni at 40 enemies total

really fast

[latent anvil]

were you farming mods on anni

[tidal sedge]

0 sanity

Just quit before reaching 100 kills

[spark sinew]

needed to overwrite this beauty

2020 👴

[latent anvil]

just go to OF stages

[spark sinew]

i needed to push 2 enemies to their death

[tidal sedge]

Do any of the 0 sanity OF stages have holes

[latent anvil]

yea

[proud drift]

wait I can actually just do my yato deploy mission like that

[spark sinew]

which ones, idr

[proud drift]

I didn't realize anni works for this

[latent anvil]

i just misclicked my crate in is3

i didnt even get ingots

[tropic valve]

oops

[tidal sedge]

Which of the 0 sanity OF stages has a hole

[spark sinew]

wait actually

this one doesn't need robin to push them either

it will just check for pushes, right

because first 3 guards fall by themselves

[limpid siren]

Do anni 3

Oh you did

[turbid badge]

is thi suppose to be santalla

[crisp bolt]

Yeah it looks like a hitmap for Santalla's s2

[weak gazelle]

yeap that was Santalla

[south bone]

wait what

[tidal sedge]

Each circle a Santalla s2 icicle aoe

[turbid badge]

yes

[rich rune]

Does anyone here have advice on how to beat HE-5? It's kicking my ass.

[tidal sedge]

The non-dog enemies are chunky to most e1 dps, I used pullers to kill most enemies besides the one crossbow to the right

Pullers will need skill level 4 skill though

[rich rune]

Thanks, I'll test run it with my pullers.

I was half tempted to DP print and use ifrit for res shred.

[plush lichen]

is it still worth it to pull for exe alter if i have penance mudrock mountain and other 6 star lane holder

[sullen rover]

hes still better than them
but you can skip if youd want to pull any other banner such as eyjaberry or sth

[plush lichen]

is it much of a difference or just barely something

[cyan gorge]

They all do different things so it's difficult to compare

[lapis hornet]

nah I mean

they just lane

mud doesn't do nearly as much dmg tho and penance is kinda situational

[sullen rover]

id say he feels alot better than the others yeah

[lapis hornet]

if you're a casual player and have most 6* I think you won't see too much of a difference tbh

[plush lichen]

that's what im asking is he really impactful or just barely

[tidal sedge]

There should be some maxed out Exfeds around now, you could borrow him and see how he is to you firsthand if you'd like

[lapis hornet]

ya try him out

[foggy grove]

if you have most 6*,most new op is just another flavor of new nuke

[lapis hornet]

speaking of wish swire wasn't a merchant man, she looks rly fun but I hate merchant dp drain smh

[plush lichen]

bring flagbearer man

[latent monolith]

Exec is a nuke too not just a laneholder so

It's 2023 if an op is not a nuke it's useless

[crisp bolt]

[lapis hornet]

ok but what's a nuke to you

[plush lichen]

in cc still useful or not

[latent monolith]

Well I'm using the term loosely here

[crisp bolt]

Who in cc?

[plush lichen]

exe alter

[latent monolith]

But any skill that does a high damage output

[lapis hornet]

nah exe is more a champion of normal events and low op records

mind idt any of the upcoming units are super notable for cc tho

or have been so far

[latent monolith]

We've only had one CC event

[plush lichen]

ah skip then ig

[latent monolith]

And DOS ig

But I don't remember exec typhon or eyja in most of those

(high risk at least)

Exec for low op is funny though

[crisp bolt]

No they're kind of useless at that high of stats

[latent monolith]

postmod he's been grinding them records

Already quite a bit over half of mlynar

[crisp bolt]

That's where ops like ines and ceobe shine

[foggy grove]

virtuosa is used on the new cc iirc
since it has atk down or something

[lapis hornet]

oh yeah arturia I forgor about her

[latent monolith]

arturia/weedy the atk down cheeses

[lapis hornet]

we'll see if degen's any good for higher difficulty stuff seems to be a lot of hype around this unit

[crisp bolt]

Yeah there are no high risk CC clear I've seen that doesn't have Ines + Arturia

[south bone]

true dmg ftw

[latent monolith]

It's not true damage

It's elemental damage

[clever kernel]

we havent seen defense againts elemental dmg

yet

[latent monolith]

Yeah

Elemental res is a stat that exists but idk any enemies have a nonzero amount

[lapis hornet]

it's like when game was new enemies had no res either and art felt like true dmg

[gray stone]

We will get one once edmg stacking is available

[lapis hornet]

they'll pump it up once we get broken ele unit

[gray stone]

Since edamage is fixed, it is a non-threat

[proud drift]

edamage is a non-threat

but

after this civilian mechanic in exalter event

I'm prepared for them to cook the most evil concoction of an elemental damage type

[gray stone]

How is that even related

[proud drift]

it's related to a term called "extremely dogshit design"

[gray stone]

Yeah but I'm talking about ally edmg

[proud drift]

"non-threat" made me assume it's enemy elemental damage

lol

[gray stone]

800 DPS is not a threat to game balance

[proud drift]

not yet

[spark sinew]

yeah older units will be dog

at least non-6* ones

they can always do broken module for like arturia if they wanted

[gray stone]

Wdym not yet

800 DPS, shared across the entire roster of Necrosis dealers

Until they add more edmg types, it's not going to be an issue

[proud drift]

yeah exactly

that's why I said not yet

because they haven't shown us what they can make

[gray stone]

And I see that they can just decide to make other edmg just deal physical/arts for reasons

Like how Corrosion or Burn currently work against us

[karmic glade]

Fire and steel 734 is finally released, this took 3 months of editing , done in JP https://b23.tv/av707653981/p1

[spark sinew]

burn is arts isn't it

[gray stone]

Yeah

[spark sinew]

like, player based one

my crystal ball told me

[proud drift]

oh yeah does corrosion stack infinitely as well?

on enemies that is?

[gray stone]

No info on that

[proud drift]

or wait did they not release corrosion op yet

[timid acorn]

but Diamante exists who can deal more elemental damage based on his own attack to enemies in Necrosis state

[gray stone]

At least, one that I haven't actively seek out

[tidal sedge]

The only element damage we have access to is necrosis atm isn't it

[timid acorn]

meaning they can just add another op with better numbers whenever they want

[karmic glade]

Only necrosis exist as player element

Other isn't even defined in the code

[gray stone]

We have Ebenholz modZ and he isn't that game breaking

[proud drift]

and does necrosis actually delay enemy abilities?

or are enemy abilities not actually SP-based?

[verbal sparrow]

how useful is exalt s1?

[tidal sedge]

No. It debuffs their atk

[proud drift]

bruh

that's so cringe

TfN made me think enemies have hidden SP just like our ops have visible SP 😔

[tidal sedge]

They are to answer this question

[spark sinew]

we also gonna see more "skills" from bosses dw

because degen doesn't disable them

[karmic glade]

And the atk debuff ware off over time, which is double cringe

[tidal sedge]

I just hope there'll be an acceptable 5* edamage package at some point

[proud drift]

well tbh okay I can see the issue with skills n stuff

imagine how easy bosses would become then

like mandragora

no more laser

[spark sinew]

so, you can start triggering the next Apoptosis during the first one?

[tidal sedge]

No

[gray stone]

No

[karmic glade]

The hope now is the new castwr archetype, which deals more damage if enemies is in element breaks

[spark sinew]

or is Element damage just pure dps

[karmic glade]

Logos might be the 6 star, who knows

[gray stone]

Ebenholz is the blueprint

[spark sinew]

ah, so this is why they added resistance

[gray stone]

They add it as a fail-safe
If it was broken they would have started to ramp up the values

[karmic glade]

There is a whole new archetype in cn, called source caster or something

[gray stone]

Primal Caster
Diamante

[tidal sedge]

Primal caster ye

[gray stone]

So far, Ebenholz is a better representative of that archetype than Diamante himself

[tidal sedge]

5* moment

[proud drift]

why eben

huh

did they change eben

[karmic glade]

Eben got a 3rd mod

[strange fable]

Delta mod eben applies necrosis

[proud drift]

[tidal sedge]

Eben delta module makes him do necrosis in proportion to damage he deals

[gray stone]

Did you live under a rock?

[proud drift]

no I just don't read every single future update thingmajig from CN?

I also didn't play from texas event up until PO end?

[gray stone]

Half the people who saw it memed about modZ

[gray stone]

Dswopey L

[proud drift]

how is that an L

[gray stone]

You are an L

[tidal sedge]

I guess Valarqvin will be the taste test of edamage

[gray stone]

Diamante ate so much Ls

[spark sinew]

i hate the new is/chapter welfare designs

[tidal sedge]

Hopefully 5* gacha primal caster will be better

[spark sinew]

they're barely worth using in their own chapters, and outside of them they're abysmal

chapter ones are the worst because you unlock them so damn late

[gray stone]

No they would be slap with 5 different conditions and mid DPS while the 6 star has built in elemental pop + higher DPS than the sun

[cosmic thicket]

highmore is cool though

[dark glade]

isnt that just all 5* nowadays tho

[spark sinew]

highmore is barely worth using in is3

[gray stone]

Dagda is cool

[proud drift]

Morgan and Dagda are hot

at least

[spark sinew]

they got those y0 art designs

[cosmic thicket]

i use highmore as filler guard

[tidal sedge]

Heidi is okay

[gray stone]

That's 5 stars in a nutshell

[turbid badge]

what is that black dot again

iirc this is fia s3

[gray stone]

Because their art is probably finalized since y0 with the Siege gang

[spark sinew]

yeah, that was my impression

[turbid badge]

skins good

[limpid siren]

guaranteed to be awful

[gray stone]

Afterwards we progressively moved into the belts meta

[spark sinew]

like outside of IS4

[tidal sedge]

You're hopeless about it too huh Igneus

[spark sinew]

are you supposed to cope with this?

[turbid badge]

its decent

[gray stone]

^

[limpid siren]

they rarely even give us good normal dps units

[spark sinew]

teta used ES too much

[limpid siren]

i'm not hopeful about a new mechanic on a 5* power budget

[spark sinew]

his standards are very low

[gray stone]

Testing ground for 6 star

[turbid badge]

???

shes decentt

elemental damage too op

[gray stone]

800 DPS

[tidal sedge]

I can't deny that but I can hope until reality happens

[gray stone]

I would rather grab a Lapplamd/Leto

[spark sinew]

well they're a different ticket 🤔

[turbid badge]

i used her against andonian

op

[gray stone]

Not the boss with a piss low HP pool

[turbid badge]

yeah ik but elemental damage is just good chip to use tbh, wouldnt call her amazing but shes not that cope

like

u can use her for the fat dr sheep

or someone with really high defense + res

[brazen stream]

what are 2 operators ideal to pair with proviso for trading post

i have e0 jaye and e2 silverash atm

[limpid siren]

no special combo, just your highest prod% workers

only thing to look out for is that someone like tequila doesn't work with proviso

[spark sinew]

if you're 252 downgrad... ah.243

i'm silent

[brazen stream]

Yeah sorry I tried 252 but just went back to 243

[spark sinew]

siege morgan are ok

i think it only needs one of them e2 but idr who

yeah siege morgan is is 20+55

[foggy grove]

morgan

[spark sinew]

and delphine makes them 30+65

morgan needs e2, siege doesn't

[brazen stream]

siege is out of the question

I don’t own her

[spark sinew]

252 can downgrade a tp to upgrade a factory, but it's not a good option in 810 energy setups

one thing to note, you can/should switch tequila into proviso tp when you dump drones

[tawny epoch]

Welp forgot that I took the double freeze/stun/other relic. Safe but might take a while.

[polar crane]

I thought I was in #r-i-i-c for one sec

[tawny epoch]

Ah, sorry, haven't fully explored/found how to acess all the channels.

[foggy grove]

nah he meant because people nerding base

[polar crane]

ya I meant the base stuff above

[polar crane]

criminal

[tawny epoch]

Ah, I see. Am currently a newbie running around in IS3 and finding out the suprises in store in each of these stages.

[polar crane]

you can also try #is-station for integrated strategy

[tawny epoch]

Many thanks!

[deft badger]

its not like someone is going to ignore him if he asks for help here when it comes to IS

[spark sinew]

you?

[turbid badge]

hauckindu

hows exec in Is

his e1 art is so hot

[spark sinew]

borrow mine and find out

[turbid badge]

ok fine

[spark sinew]

i still think he's gavialter but can't cheese precarious, that 2 lane stage on f2/3 and ooc

but he does pack a punch

[turbid badge]

is there anything to do w ammo relics in is4

oh wait you dont know

[spark sinew]

yeah i only spoilered myself ed2 boss

[deft badger]

i was so close to say that here are some big brains and mention u naga minus but nvm xD

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