strategy

[plucky flint]

And who cares about anni when they're piss easy

[gray stone]

Which is a Typhon or Fia showcasr

[crisp bolt]

the one where you can use rat in?

[neat skiff]

Rat S1.

[gray stone]

But Typhon being used in anni is nothing crazy, you know how infinite duration skills work

She's as much as a drug as Thorns S3 was

[neat skiff]

Drugs like Thorns mean pulls.

[gray stone]

You saw the default pfp guy who shilled Typhon

[tropic valve]

but unlike Thorns she has good damage

[gray stone]

But overall, I think Exalter edges her out with his S3 and module

[gray stone]

Hence, Thorns S3 was

[spark sinew]

is there a way to exclude "niche" clears like specialistknights from my query on arkrec?

[plucky flint]

Just use general tab

[gray stone]

General search

[plucky flint]

But 99% of the time it's just Ling

[gray stone]

Yeah

[plucky flint]

[spark sinew]

i want to see specific operator clears, but not in their "class niche"

[gray stone]

Idk I search by stage

[spark sinew]

yeah i mostly search by stage as well
i just wanted to give a bad faith argument about executor vs typhon

[neat skiff]

I do find it amusing that Ling guides are pretty hard to find outside of sites you need google translate for.

Summoners \o/

[neat skiff]

Even when OP as shit.

[gray stone]

Dorothy also racking up arkrec clears

They sure love Specialists + Ling

[neat skiff]

It's honestly incredible how Dorothy went from an M6 op to a M9 op with her module.

[spark sinew]

executor has almost triple of typhon arkrec clears but i wonder how many are enmity only and guardknights

[gray stone]

Tbh I do M9 and I have never used S1 once

[neat skiff]

Less guardknights. Enmity (stupid fucking name) and maleknights.

[tropic valve]

Exalter does seem better positioned to get arkrec clears because of his archetype

[neat skiff]

With her module her S1 has a 20% chance to be the single highest single instance of damage.

[gray stone]

Dorothy gains a lot from auto attacks when S2 or S3 keeps enemies in range
S1 is funny nuke but no one cares about 1 time nuke

[tropic valve]

personally I prefer ops who can carry hard content rather than ops who can low-squad clear medium content

[crisp bolt]

his archetype helps a lot for low squads

[gray stone]

You will like Exalter then

[neat skiff]

Why keep going back to nicheknight usage?

[tropic valve]

but will I like him more than Typhon? hmm

[crisp bolt]

no because you're a schwarz lover

[gray stone]

They want to argue Exalter vs Typhon based on Arkrec but Exalter has double the amount of clears

[plucky flint]

That's what most ppl in endgame do

[gray stone]

Due to guards, enmity whatever

[tropic valve]

well, I'm open to new ideas, if either of them can carry IS as hard as Schwarz does then instant fave

[spark sinew]

can executor hit air? no? so you can use schwarz
if typhon solo clears the stage there's no need for schwarz

the answer is clear

[plucky flint]

It gets pretty boring if u don't do stupid shits like that

[gray stone]

Also, Exalter has really low charge time

His talent procs actually gives him extra SP

[crisp bolt]

I'm curious how well typhon does in IS3

[neat skiff]

His talent procs work incredibly well in his favour.

[gray stone]

Mod3 makes it 35% to double hit, which is crazy

[tidal sedge]

His extra attack off the talent gives sp? That's weird.

[neat skiff]

Incredibly.

Even better in IS4.

[boreal magnet]

can mlynar solo damage endspeaker for ex8 cm?

[tropic valve]

depends on the buffs

[tidal sedge]

You'll want bait for phase 2 probably

[tropic valve]

DEF buff? absolutely not

[opal kiln]

hi guys

executor >> typhon

bye

[crisp bolt]

[boreal magnet]

hmm where can i find wich creatures hold wich buff and wich buff it will eat

[gray stone]

You can go fact check it with your dalao connectoons, but yeah

[vernal lion]

feed the boss this dude

[crisp bolt]

I don't understand, I just unga bunga'd it

[vernal lion]

trustn't

[boreal magnet]

so its the def buff huh

[crisp bolt]

boss can't handle taking mlynar + monst3r + gnosis + lin + Aak

[boreal magnet]

im not sure how the boss prioritizing wich buff to eat

[neat skiff]

It's like NTR S3 was custom built for endspeaker.

[glass monolith]

It is "Why my chalter does 50 damage" buff

[neat skiff]

Proximity to where the boss died.

[tropic valve]

wait

[gray stone]

Go back to Siesta

[tropic valve]

wiki says Brandguider causes boss to QUINTUPLE DEF

not quadruple

[boreal magnet]

my god, thanks youre a savior

[tropic valve]

so 3500

[boreal magnet]

beacon of light

[neat skiff]

Yes.

[boreal magnet]

purges deepest darkness

[neat skiff]

We been knew.

[gray stone]

I heard in IS4 sniper tickets are useless

D15 at least

Except Typhon

[tropic valve]

oh the graphic confused me, I thought the 4x was multiplicative

[neat skiff]

Oh, found an old copy-paste for the "5 tokens" mission.
SN-EX-8 and SN-S-5 totems.
Phase 2 = RES/DEF/dodge
Phase 3 = DEF/dodge/resist and slow immune
Phase 4 = dodge/multi-target/attack stack

SN boss has 3500 def with the totem.

[sly drift]

The fact that Kaltsit ignore about absolutely every buff the boss get

[crisp bolt]

I don't know

[tidal sedge]

I haven't been in touch with them for quite some time tbh. It's why I unironically asked questions in Help for a bit when I came back here

[tropic valve]

hmm I kinda doubt that, but we'll have to see

I don't play CN

[neat skiff]

Yeah, the graphic from a year ago was incorrect.

[crisp bolt]

I've heard a lot of different things about IS4

[boreal magnet]

nawr, that 4x buff dude spawn on the left top at the end phase

[gray stone]

Why do you think Kermit unironically E2 mod3 his Greyy

[vernal lion]

quintuple or quadruple doesn't matter, you just NEED to not pick the wrong buffs

[crisp bolt]

I'm waiting for the release on EN before taking a proper look at it

[spark sinew]

base aficionado no doubt

those are all the gifts for him

[gray stone]

IS4 is just funky

Casters are so back

[spark sinew]

the enemies are definition of "fun"

[gray stone]

No 20 RES, so Arts is actually ideal for End3

[crisp bolt]

oh yeah I heard Lin is really good in IS4

[crisp bolt]

rat power

civilian nightmare

[vernal lion]

do you like them

[gray stone]

Man

[tidal sedge]

Lmao

[crisp bolt]

[plucky flint]

What the fuck is this abomination

[crisp bolt]

that's the most cursed thing I've seen

[solid dew]

is that the civilian hell(tm) map in IS4 i saw a photo of once

[glass monolith]

Every fucking civilian with every fucking civilian killer

[deft badger]

btw who told me gnosis doesn't work on that thing?

[crisp bolt]

at least it doesn't have those annoying 2 block lancer dudes

[plucky flint]

That's amogus gameplay

[crisp bolt]

with fast movement speed

[tidal sedge]

That's really funny

[tropic valve]

3500 DEF under 40% HP isn't that bad though, Schwarz does 58k damage with S3 which is enough to one-cycle the last phase with 56k HP in SN-S-5

[deft badger]

he still freezes the s- out of it, s3 ofc but its enough to kill it

[glass monolith]

Well I said, because someone was S1ing

[boreal magnet]

any run endspeaker full buff yet

[spark sinew]

i mean obviously s3 will work, but usually gnosis can freeze with basics on this event

so it's a big big downgrade

[crisp bolt]

I use gnosis s3

[deft badger]

downgrade for the duration of his s3?

since thats how much it takes u to kill the boss with the res buff

[sly pivot]

status resistance means -50% duration of status

its not immunity

[deft badger]

anyway that boss ins't moving

[spark sinew]

good for you if you kill the boss for the duration of s3

[deft badger]

the only problem i have is with that cc

[spark sinew]

but without that buff, you don't need to do that

[celest bluff]

What the fuck

[spark sinew]

the two buffs we have (+atkspd and +freeze duration) make gnosis almost stunlock anything single target

so you're not forced to burst the boss in s3 duration

also what khant said, s3 still freezes for the duration because of the wording

[gray stone]

Lingless Supporter only clear is 3 op

[deft badger]

takes actually gnosis s3 and yato s2 to kill it xD

[gray stone]

For EX-8

[deft badger]

yato does like 80% of the hp with her s2

[gray stone]

It's an old boss

Total HP is shit

They only account for Chalter gaming for this boss

[glass monolith]

Total HP might be shit, but def and res food are insane

[vernal lion]

does frozen effect on enemy last for 1 second?

[boreal magnet]

cm is just bullshit, im not doing it

[deft badger]

lol

[neat skiff]

Technically no.

How frozen works. Chilled and frozen are 2 stacks with their own timer. Once an enemy is frozen any and all stacks are ignored.

[vernal lion]

I just tested Gnosis s1 and s2 on Pompeii, it's just 1 second somehow

Kjera is too rng to test, but don't know if it's also 1 second or no

[neat skiff]

S1 is 1 second, S2 is not.

Was S2 charged?

Or yellow?

[deft badger]

does suzu double her fragile when her skill is on?

[neat skiff]

Because uncharged lasts for 2/2.5/3/4 seconds but only chills and relies on auto attacks to freeze. auto attacks only give 1 stack of chill.

[neat skiff]

Read her skill.

S3 doubles it against enemies that can be slowed. S1 and S2 do not.

[deft badger]

there is rarely something that can't be slowed

[spark sinew]

it's a very important distinction

[glass monolith]

Resist buffed boss: Bye bitches zoooooom

It was extra funny for me because i forgot he was slow immune buffed and was calculating how fast it will go when it leave Suzu's range

[spark sinew]

oh yeah literally current event boss can't be slowed

i was also thinking about is4 ed2 boss

god he looks so annoying

[vernal lion]

yea it's 3 seconds

[deft badger]

at the other hand i can just drive all the time gnosis with mod which already gives 30% on cold without the frozen part

[spark sinew]

30% is kinda whatever though

also your uptime is nowhere close to 100%

since gnosis attacks once in 1.6seconds

i mean we're comparing it with suzu, crom

would you bring gnosis for 30%?

vs freeze immune enemy? you won't

[wary wing]

I don't bring buffers

[neat skiff]

S2M3 Gnosis.

[wary wing]

30% in a short window is basically sail s3

[neat skiff]

Learn your numbers.

[wary wing]

so for freeze immune enemies it's still something

even if his sp cost is basically double of sails

[deft badger]

u can apply cold for 13sec m3 on 100% uptime, i am ok with 30% more dmg for everyone

since i don't own suzu

[wary wing]

but for arguments sake
if I were nuking stuff in 10s windows

I would actually not bring suzu
sail would be better

[deft badger]

if the target can be frozen its a win win ofc then u apply 60%

[spark sinew]

weren't my numbers, mind you

[neat skiff]

If you ignore Suzuran for a sec then Gnosis has tier 3 module then with chill he is the only hexer without the "below 40% health" requirement while they all have 30% fragile.

[spark sinew]

or are you saying 30% fragile is absolute insane and a reason to bring gnosis to the team

[neat skiff]

Suzuran S3M3 hits 40% fragile, but relies on the enemy not being slow immune. Which is a thing nowdays.

[neat skiff]

If an enemy is slow immune but frozen vulnerable his 50% or 60% wins.

[wary wing]

holy shit khold
slow immunity has happened
exactly
3 times
in 5 years

[neat skiff]

Lone trail phase 1.

[wary wing]

yes that's like the 3rd time

[deft badger]

btw who is cold immune? 😄

[spark sinew]

is4 ed2
current event if you give the buff

[deft badger]

i don't remember seeing that thing never apply

[wary wing]

cold immunity doesn't exists

[spark sinew]

are the any others?

[deft badger]

lol

[wary wing]

at most status resistant so 50%

[deft badger]

really

[wary wing]

yes

[neat skiff]

Yeah, enemy Degenbrecher has status resist so 50% cold.

[wary wing]

cc4 golems with the risk
this boss with buff
Kristen phase one
didn't know about is4 ed2

[neat skiff]

Hence me saying “increasing”

[lethal dragon]

Cc11 dock SMTH smth choice risk

[neat skiff]

Like Kristen is the first enemy ever to resist true damage.

[tidal sedge]

Talulah did that too

[wary wing]

talulah technically applies a damage dealt debuff

which is different than a damage taken reduction

[tidal sedge]

HG coding strikes again

[wary wing]

in layman terms

[neat skiff]

Nah, Kristen is special.

[wary wing]

as long as you aren't burning you deal full damage to talulah

[neat skiff]

Every other boss with damage resistance is only physical or arts.

[tidal sedge]

You got that from Meow didn't you

[wary wing]

not the concept but maybe the wording yes

ch8 was so long ago tho

[neat skiff]

If I were a conspiracy theorist I would say it was because of Kal being so meta.

[wary wing]

she's not

[vernal lion]

Immune to Bind and Slow, and ignores any checkpoints in his pathing.

[spark sinew]

yeah that's is4 ed2

[wary wing]

just block

[neat skiff]

Who else has such easy on demand true damage. Especially against an unblockable boss?

[spark sinew]

he's unblockable as well lmao

[wary wing]

you can block Kristen tho

[spark sinew]

but he only gains those when you get him below certain health %

[lethal dragon]

Just Mostima 💪

[spark sinew]

and for a short time

[neat skiff]

With a module that increases said true damage by a bit under 20%

[spark sinew]

so mosti or that 5* caster work

[tidal sedge]

I would think they did it to stop folks from using Amiya as well vs Kristen

[lethal dragon]

Harmonie

[wary wing]

I'm pretty sure that the actual strat is just block him thrice and kill

[tidal sedge]

Aka use other cheese instead

[wary wing]

Kristen was the lesser of the problems in her maps

[tidal sedge]

Really? Everything else besides get clowned by pushers. Except rocket bots ig

[wary wing]

so she having inflated artificial effective hp was the only way to make her annoying

[neat skiff]

And it worked.

[wary wing]

rocket bots got particularly clowned on by my weedy

because weight-4(?) is that funny

[tidal sedge]

-5

[neat skiff]

Weight -5

[wary wing]

-5 uh
I was just throwing numbers

[tidal sedge]

Phantom s3 was also funny

[neat skiff]

And not "reduce by -5" but "all weights are forced to -5"

[weak gazelle]

when this new ops release on cn?
degen and friends

[neat skiff]

Soon™️

[vernal lion]

6 days left

[wary wing]

5th

I'm expecting degens new debuff to be funny

[spark sinew]

can't wait for the...swordmaster training

[wary wing]

playable disable is going to be funny

[weak gazelle]

i see
thanks, looking forward to letto only tho

[vernal lion]

pretty sure it's Disarm

[tidal sedge]

No hope for Harold huh

[spark sinew]

leto is probably some gimmick base shit as well

[vernal lion]

and the Heat mechanism of that event

[neat skiff]

Eyjaberry exists.

[tidal sedge]

Harold is wandering so elemental damage is probably involved somewhere

[tidal sedge]

Arkhy is 5* player

[wary wing]

the most Im.expecting from Harold is a perma skill

[neat skiff]

The absolute most Harold can hope for is "Eyjaberry S1, but not limited".

[wary wing]

everything else is already done by the berries

[weak gazelle]

idk
wandering medics is simple
if he better than honeyberry then i will raise him

[wary wing]

or maybe eyja s2-like

[tidal sedge]

Isn't Honeyberry s1 already similar enough though?

[neat skiff]

We already have that. Lumen S1. His worst skill.

[wary wing]

sure

but for semantics sake

[weak gazelle]

this wandering medic archetype are boring as fuck but they good on what they do

[wary wing]

better than therapists

[neat skiff]

Better than early therapists.

[wary wing]

better than all therapists

I still don't get the lumen cope to this day

[weak gazelle]

yeah same with therapist
to think purestream is the most make sense ops in term of cost and gameplay wise

[tidal sedge]

I'm hoping he's weird in some way because consistency and burst are otherwise handled by the berries

[neat skiff]

2nd highest single target HPS currently in global...

[wary wing]

hps
absolutely no one cares

[weak gazelle]

idk too why folks here cope lumen
i just cant see it

[tidal sedge]

Medics could use kits with some intrigue in general

[spark sinew]

has a chance to apply bleed instead of healing?

[wary wing]

unless the 6star chain medic applies damage deflection

they will be completely dead on arrival

[neat skiff]

"Why do people cope medics being great at being medics?"

[tidal sedge]

Funny, but I don't think HG would do a design like that.

[neat skiff]

folinic.

[wary wing]

no khold
"muh best single target hps" matters little when you can just have a good tank and simply need less healing

[spark sinew]

would honestly be so good at enabling weird shit
like you could trigger this and then saria s3 battery someone

[wary wing]

mitigation > healing

[tidal sedge]

I interpreted what they said as healer having chance to hurt their target

[tidal sedge]

Warf s2

[neat skiff]

E2L90 Tier 3 module Hoshiguma needing 2 medics.

[tidal sedge]

It's been used for that in meme setups

[neat skiff]

Technically against arts damage Nian is tankier with the same conditions, but she also needs a lot of healing in several stages.

[wary wing]

if max Hoshi + either NG or Shining doesn't cut it

lumen alone also won't cut it

[neat skiff]

Hence using 2.

[wary wing]

and I'm very sure maxed Hoshi Is tankier than Nian against arts

bruh simply ignoring 35% dodge chance

[neat skiff]

You have finished chapter 12 right?

[wary wing]

yes so?

[neat skiff]

I would be fascinated to see your clear of H-4 since not even the top players get away with 1 medic without replacing blockers several times and abusing animation locks.

[solar venture]

I need suggestion after finished chapter 3, is this good team ? Any other operator should i add there ?

[wary wing]

this is my h12-4

[tidal sedge]

Fish comp.

[wary wing]

although you can argue suzu s3 healing does clutch it at the end

[neat skiff]

Credit where it is due. I am genuinely impressed.

[vernal lion]

this is, ugh, my H12-4

[boreal magnet]

i think youll need aoe arts snd another healer, also u can change proviso with someone that can really hold lane

[tidal sedge]

No marksman is interesting.

[wary wing]

but that's besides the point

lumen wouldn't be able to solo heal there

so I don't get the argument

[neat skiff]

yeah, it's hard to say without seeing your other ops.

[novel pivot]

magic some into existence

[neat skiff]

Some great ops mixed with "interesting choice"

[wary wing]

I mean
if you have 0 Def, just rely on hp and DR no?

[novel pivot]

this is so cool i wish spalter was real

[tidal sedge]

I have no criticism, I've heard of other folks using it vs Damazti too

[wary wing]

Ines is a markswoman

[neat skiff]

Gladiia module is OP.

[spark sinew]

that's a solid base team
do you have e2 yet?

[wary wing]

this is not me coping Ines in my melee only IS3 run

[tidal sedge]

It's interesting to see the occasional new player use aoe options instead of marksmen like this

[solar venture]

Not yet

[wary wing]

fia being a 6star, while pinecone being as heavily skilled as she is

doesn't actually surprise me

[boreal magnet]

show you other ops

[neat skiff]

CH 11 H4 I used Skadi and Gladiia to tank the boss since E2L70 Hoshi, E2L70 shining and E2L50 Quercus wasn’t enough.

[boreal magnet]

aint no way we gonna tell u to add nonexistent ops

[spark sinew]

rushing e2 4* can push your power level a lot higher

[neat skiff]

Skadi/shining/Quercus/gladiia was fine though.

[tidal sedge]

The other example I can recall of a new player doing this used Firewatch and Istina, which was pretty based tbh

[wary wing]

sure
but I still don't get the argument

[boreal magnet]

ADD CUTTER

[spark sinew]

I'm not sure if you want to rush pinecone here though

[wary wing]

not like Hoshi Lumen quercus would have survived either

[neat skiff]

The argument was I used the same strat you did…

[wary wing]

ch11

[vernal lion]

ok

[boreal magnet]

add cutter and shira/lava. also change proviso to cuora or cardigan

[wary wing]

ok khold
but your whole thing was trying to sell lumen

and I still see no reason to care about pure HPS

[spark sinew]

proviso is already invested into quite a bit
i doubt they need to cope aoe arts at this point

[boreal magnet]

what proviso does again?

[spark sinew]

just get cutter e2 and then maybe borrow ling if you really need them

[neat skiff]

Straight away, the 3 star sniper Kroos. Level her and use her.

[wary wing]

aoe silence and slow in 1 time procs

[neat skiff]

She hits harder than her rarity says she should.

[wary wing]

and decent st DPS for a slower I guess

[wary wing]

that sounds extremely based

[spark sinew]

proviso makes you raise your other ops faster
but she's also a regular slower so definitely not a waste of a slot that early on

[vernal lion]

10s of duration

[boreal magnet]

well, if prov can cover aoe then i had no objections

[neat skiff]

What she does is sit in you base trading posts.

[wary wing]

istina is an offturner for me tho, with how paper she is, even compared to other decel binders

[tidal sedge]

Yeah Proviso isn't good at aoe damage itself

[wary wing]

she cant

She has aoe slow, but her damage is purely st

[boreal magnet]

well time to bench

[neat skiff]

Also. Kal'tsit. Early in the game her skill 2 is god tier.

[spark sinew]

what i meant is that they have aoe already (physical aoe that is)
coping for arts aoe is worse than just working with what they already have

and getting e2 support

[vernal lion]

this should be lead to #help instead

[solar venture]

Like this ?

[boreal magnet]

well im just concerned about how regular hi deff enemies on chap 4++ thus i sugest to invest on some real arts dmg

[neat skiff]

So. Lava. you said you're in chapter 3. She has already fallen off. Or more accuretly she will fall off as soon as you step into chapter 4.

Arene has his uses but his archetype has a LOT of powerful ops.

Cutter can be a powerful op, once E2.

[vernal lion]

perfumer needs at least E1

[solar venture]

So i need replace lava with ?

[wary wing]

@tidal sedge Harold kit is out

hes weird

[boreal magnet]

u have gintano right?

[neat skiff]

.

gitano level E0L40

[solar venture]

Yes i have

[boreal magnet]

oh nice, already leveled on top of it

[neat skiff]

The hard part, you're still a relatively new player. Kal'tsit and Ines are by a hilariously wide margin your best ops.

You have a bunch of ops that become "actually pretty decent" with investment that you do not have quite yet.

[boreal magnet]

i have preference to start with balanced 2 vang, 2 deffender, 2 heal, 2 sniper, 2 arts with my early playthru. But then again, its up to you how to build team

[spark sinew]

i honestly think you don't need a "balanced" team relatively early on
game ages and new operators are...strong

[vernal lion]

When the cumulative amount of elemental damage treated exceeds 50% of the target, the elemental damage recovery amount increases.

[glass monolith]

Just stall better (Only reason my stall died to the end is i panic activated Silence S2 prematurely) #strategy message

[vernal lion]

ok I like this shit now

[spark sinew]

investing into something that you will eventually bench is something i wouldn't recommend, when you can instead just take string support to carry you through problematic stages

[vernal lion]

now test this in H12-4

[neat skiff]

That is the hard part. they don't have many alternative options.

[tidal sedge]

Hm. So he's burst oriented it seems? Guess Mul will be the op for comparison

[solar venture]

Well i upgraded the operator that i like and when i play chapter 3 that have misha as boss i always lose after tryhard 10 times.

[neat skiff]

Have you built your base at all?

[vernal lion]

can't change the fact that is not afk skill

[spark sinew]

yeah...
if it was a smurf acc i would just say to rush e2 cutter and then do base slaves

but...

[tidal sedge]

I mean his s2 vs Mul s2

[solar venture]

So that's why i need build another team that better than my prev team.

[neat skiff]

Have you built your base?

[spark sinew]

for misha you can take support mountain

[spark sinew]

but yes, this (also don't level office)

[neat skiff]

Rushing story is the fastest way to become frustrated with the game.

[solar venture]

Which one ? Base Beta ?

[neat skiff]

Yes.

Endgame it is one of the most important things in the game.

[solar venture]

Yes, i have

[glass monolith]

First i built team capable of bruteforcing anything with right support.
Now i building random shit to cheese literally anything game can come up with

[neat skiff]

It is where we get LMD (money) and EXP from.

[vernal lion]

Talent:
Targets with cumulative elemental damage exceeding 50% within Harold's attack range will receive reduced elemental damage.

[neat skiff]

Could you do me a favour and screencap it?

[spark sinew]

inb4 the number is like 10%

[tidal sedge]

So talent plays nice with his s2.

[robust hemlock]

weirdest autodeploy what i ever seen

[tidal sedge]

But yeah 5* talents are not super strong most times so I'm not optimistic by any means

[spark sinew]

DON'T LEVEL OFFICE

[boreal magnet]

unless

[spark sinew]

not unless

don't

[neat skiff]

Ok. Please do me a favour. this game has 2 terms. 252 and 243. They relate to the base. Look them up.

[boreal magnet]

[glass monolith]

OneLegBerry kit is out?

[vernal lion]

the new event will have Frostbite elemental dmg for sure

[boreal magnet]

we entering elemental damage era now?

[neat skiff]

Harold

5★ Wandering Medic

Illustrator: 一千

CV: Takumi Yamazaki

Trait: Restores the HP of allied units and recovers Elemental Damage by 50% of ATK (can recover Elemental Damage of unhurt allied units)

Talent 1: Targets within Harold's attack range who have taken more than 50% Elemental Damage receive reduced Elemental Damage

Skill 1: When skill is active, ATK increases

Skill 2: When skill is active, ASPD increases, prioritizes the target with the highest Elemental Damage taken; recovers extra amount of Elemental Damage when healing target who have taken more than 50% Elemental Damage

[vernal lion]

getting Frozen while taking dot Arts dmg

[neat skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/187e8iw/new_5star_medic_harold/

[tidal sedge]

I notice the enemies shown thus far have some snowflake aura around them

[vernal lion]

yea

and the Heat system

[neat skiff]

So, Harold is getting completely ignored.

[vernal lion]

5 star welfares do belike that

[neat skiff]

Actually, mildly better than Chestnut so maleknights players get a boost,.

[glass monolith]

While we were eating shit in CC8 dude was chilling

[neat skiff]

Can we please not?

[solar venture]

Sorry i didn't understand what are you saying about 252 and 243 ?

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsCCc7qvVY4&ab_channel=Arkchive

[spark sinew]

please don't

[neat skiff]

So. In the base there are 2 main setups. 2 trading posts. 5/4 factories, 2/3 power plants.

[peak cloak]

https://youtu.be/eolMMsRn794?si=LnhtofmLfZlfQhOB

[tropic valve]

Arkchive?

[neat skiff]

252 is mathmatically the best.

243 is "I will take a mild efficency hit for the aesthetics of a fully upgraded base"

[spark sinew]

it's not a mild efficiency hit for new player though, while it costs several? million lmd to build

[neat skiff]

On the right side of your base are 4 buildings. you want to keep 3 of them at rank 1 and the "mastery rank/training room" at rank 3.

[spark sinew]

more importantly you can pivot from 252
you can't from 243, your base is forever crippled

[vernal lion]

I enjoy 243 because I don't hate myself when I don't need to login to Arknights 4 times a day

[neat skiff]

Hence me saying "aesthetics"

[peak cloak]

nuh uh, i dont have enough power to mention this "god-tier" guides video

and hey

[spark sinew]

such a dumb argument that never was true

[stuck ermine]

every new player not reading guide . you can still downgrade left/mid rooms

[vernal lion]

it's true for adult

[boreal magnet]

me with 243 and login arkngiht 2 times a day

[spark sinew]

it's literally false

[neat skiff]

I am a 243 since the base being fully upgraded is more important to me. 252 is better in all aspects except that.

[glass monolith]

Mlynar base and now only issue is forget collectign full posts and factories

[spark sinew]

252 don't need 3-4 logins

[neat skiff]

^

[tidal sedge]

252 is very compatible with 2 logins

[vernal lion]

me, when I forgot to collect after 24 hours

[neat skiff]

252 are 2 logins.

[boreal magnet]

am i the only one who rotate when the ops is exhausted

[vernal lion]

dude I don't mind about base anymore, because I just need fucking E2 op

while playing as a f2p

[peak cloak]

it was Peter, dont worry.

[neat skiff]

It's genuinely bizarre legit running into people who have 12-16 ops built and mastered and have zero need to raise any others.

[solar venture]

So its mean in early game i need many resource then the best choice is 252 right ?

[vernal lion]

that is when you don't have op for base

[neat skiff]

252 can very easily become 243. 243 cannot easily become 252.

[vernal lion]

cannot, more like impossible

[neat skiff]

252 = efficency, resources and ease of use. 243 = aesthetics.

[neat skiff]

All the ops they ever use are already E2L90. what use does the base have?

[peak cloak]

2-5-2, can become 3-4-2 for more lmd ( if u needed). i used both set up when i was new.

[tropic valve]

oh I was commenting on the earlier video, not the PeterYR one, PeterYR is quite trustworthy

[vernal lion]

each player has their own play

[solar venture]

I see, then ?

[vernal lion]

you just guide them to see what fit them first

[neat skiff]

252. you can easily swap.

It's harder to swap back.

[solar venture]

What make its harder to switch ? Its just remove and build again right ?

[neat skiff]

You see those right side buildings?

Clues and the foundry?

[vernal lion]

once you've upgraded the HQ, the top middle one, you can't turn it back

[neat skiff]

You cannot downgrade them. They will always take capacity.

[glass monolith]

I went 243 max everything because... Uh.... One day i will build Minimalist, also 40% Archetto

[neat skiff]

252 has limited capacity while being better output.

[spark sinew]

252 has better capacity

[neat skiff]

lol. I literally have Minimalist in my E2L1 queue for base.

[spark sinew]

don't forget he didn't fuck up his right side yet

[vernal lion]

no joke tho, I did 243 when I was just playing this game since the game has been released for 4-5 months

[neat skiff]

252 cannot upgrade all stations to max.

Since when does 252 have 810 capacity?

[glass monolith]

[neat skiff]

Drones for layman’s,

[glass monolith]

Who cares about energy used capacity, or whatever, how much trade posts and factories fit below level 3

[solar venture]

I see, okay i undertstand. Then what make it affect on team composition ?

[neat skiff]

Zero.

[spark sinew]

#r-i-i-c either way you can ask about it here if you want

[spark sinew]

252 has 5 lvl3 factories

how is this worse than 243

[flat sapphire]

BRUH

[neat skiff]

I have 6.

[spark sinew]

again, the guy above has lvl1 office

you have 4 factories...

[glass monolith]

Nobody stops you from using operator which has good base skills in combat, just rarely "good base skills" and "good in combat" coexist in same operator

[spark sinew]

dude, how hard it is to nudge new people in direction that's reversible and cheaper, instead of confusing them and making them "choose"

[neat skiff]

I walked right into that. I have 4 max factories, 2 max trading posts, 4 max dormitories and my right side fully upgraded.

[neat skiff]

What the fuck have I been talking about?

[spark sinew]

252 can have 5 lvl3 factories
lvl 3 tp
and lvl2 tp

[solar venture]

So let me clear this, on early the best team comp is 2 vang 2, shiled ,2 healer , 2 mage and 2 archer. Then make 252 base formation right ?

[neat skiff]

I am arguing in favour of 252.

[spark sinew]

people do 244 for "aesthetics"

[neat skiff]

Yes.

[neat skiff]

243 and yes.

[vernal lion]

it's funny that each of you want to become an engineer for base

[spark sinew]

you're still selling it very short
for new player I'd argue there should be no choice except 252
351 is an option but again, "don't overcomplicate the base" should be the motto for beginners so i don't even mention it

[neat skiff]

I run 243 purely because I like my base looking like this.

252 cannot do that.

[versed arrow]

ocd ppl do 243 for ocd, I did 243 back then cause the guides I found said 243, we are not the same

[neat skiff]

the trade off is 252 gives more resources, only needs 2 logins a day and is basically better in every way except looks.

[flat sapphire]

ocd people would do 333

[spark sinew]

they don't

[flat sapphire]

then they aren't ocd

[spark sinew]

gatekeeping ocd lol

[versed arrow]

you can ocd with 243, just put the pp on the right, the top and bot left tp, and the rest fac. looks ocd enough

[spark sinew]

at least one person does it in #r-i-i-c , but yeah we didn't ask for his diagnosis

[flat sapphire]

in what way does 243 look satisfying enough for someone who is actually ocd?

it doesn't

[neat skiff]

everything is max rank.

[flat sapphire]

yeh but that's not enough, not as good as seeing 333

[neat skiff]

Dormitories being rank 5? Make them rank 3 so everything has 3 blips.

But that also doesn't work properly.

[flat sapphire]

max everything 333 would look best

[neat skiff]

I find it bizarre "252 is the best choice for where you are" is somehow being turned against me.

Whole bunch of benefits vs negatives but a e s t h e t i c

[flat sapphire]

yeh most people that do 243 just likes seeing max everything

[rugged talon]

Who can hold the top lane on SN-10?

[glass monolith]

Fartooth S3

Bang bang bang

[neat skiff]

Very much depends on levels.

[flat sapphire]

reefbreaker

[neat skiff]

How is reefbreaker an issue?

[glass monolith]

Cleaner, then read pervious step

[flat sapphire]

invis

[neat skiff]

You have 5 roombas.

[flat sapphire]

might be running bounce roomba

[rugged talon]

Im so done with this stage man, but i bet there is some madlad soloing it with ling

[neat skiff]

clean the goo before phase 2.

[flat sapphire]

actually can't u just texas2 it?

[neat skiff]

Need to wait for it to move until Texalter is in range of the single deployable tile.

[rugged talon]

is pozy good againts this boss?

[spark sinew]

yes

you can, too, if you have e2

[vernal lion]

can't even do 333 unless you run one for

[tropic valve]

just Totter the Reefbreaker

[spark sinew]

even lvl 60 ling wtf

[neat skiff]

Do you really expect people to have raised a male 4 star?

[tropic valve]

yes, as long as you don't feed it the 3500 DEF buff, Pozy should one-cycle it

[vernal lion]

which stage, SN-10 ?

[rugged talon]

wdym 3500 def buf

f

[spark sinew]

each enemy that boss eats can give different buffs to it

[rugged talon]

[dusky grove]

X5 def and +1 block when under 50% hp

[tropic valve]

the Regressed Brandguider drops a directed evolution that quintuples the boss' DEF under 40% HP, raising it from 700 to 3500

[vernal lion]

ok then feed the boss this

[dusky grove]

It's not that bad

Just old hag it

[rugged talon]

how to avoid that

[vernal lion]

you know it's not that bad if Gnosis can perma stun it

[flat sapphire]

mald gold from shop

[dusky grove]

Boss detects the closest tokens to its death tile
So just micromanage the buff givers

[neat skiff]

Gnosis no, Gnosis S1L7 + W S2 yes.

[tropic valve]

Gnosis is nearly airtight, he lets the boss do like 1 action every minute or something like that (EDIT: didn't mean to reply oops)

[vernal lion]

you mean, with status resist buff?

[dusky grove]

For sn10 he has 10 phases and eat 1 token

[celest bluff]

THIS LITTLE SHIT

[dusky grove]

For ex8 and s-5 he eats 2

Blud plays sn10

[neat skiff]

Welcome to stultifera navis. It HATES your autos.

[dusky grove]

Tbf

Sn10 is stupid

Ex8 and s5 were very stable for me

[celest bluff]

Fine
Spawn camp

[spark sinew]

why are you even autoing sn-10 though

[vernal lion]

there's thing you should know,
boss has 4 phases, so yea the chance to get desync is definitely high

[tropic valve]

(not OD-8 but still)

[dusky grove]

Also rerun has different material drops right

[spark sinew]

no

[dusky grove]

No?

I rmb I did trust farm on sn10

Idt i was drunk enough to farm liquid

[neat skiff]

SN 8 and SN 9 are still worth farming and SN 10 is worse than main stages.

[spark sinew]

apparently you were...

[vernal lion]

man I love the "summoner boss", truly best boss of all time

[dusky grove]

R6S rerun soon

[spark sinew]

i mean i also did the quests for it during NL

[dusky grove]

Hope they bring it back

[spark sinew]

so i'm also in dumb camp

[tropic valve]

my phone didn't appreciate that

[spark sinew]

but tbf i didn't expect HG to fuck up that material so badly

[vernal lion]

no, the sandstorm effect just hate weak device

[dusky grove]

No HG hates players in general

[tropic valve]

I don't understand why they print new materials then never use them

[dusky grove]

RA, OD, IW can suck my d

Thanks

[tropic valve]

and still use 9001 rocks

I mean I guess it's a bit unfriendly toward new players?

[dusky grove]

IW whenever there is one (1) lantern on screen

[tropic valve]

if they use new mats

but they've already released S stages in early chapters to fix that

[dusky grove]

Yeah

So that's like

[celest bluff]

I can kill boss easy now

[flat sapphire]

those are some of the more fun ones wdym

[dusky grove]

Yes except the framerate sucks absolute cock

[flat sapphire]

just have better device

smh

[celest bluff]

Especially RA yeah

[dusky grove]

I run emu

Still lag

👍

[flat sapphire]

sounds like u need better pc

[dusky grove]

And no my pc can handle whatever game you can think of

[flat sapphire]

apparently not arknights

[dusky grove]

Time to switch engine

[celest bluff]

Weather effect is still the worse offender

[dusky grove]

Unity is taxing them soon

Go unreal

[celest bluff]

My man

That isn't easy

[dusky grove]

Ik

[vernal lion]

back to CC2...

[dusky grove]

My bro's cc2 looks lit

[vernal lion]

you bet?

[dusky grove]

Did it take LSD

[peak cloak]

how to test new pc:

• minecraft tnts
• reed's nukes

[glass monolith]

Ceobe approves

[glass monolith]

Unoptimized Java script

[tropic valve]

while (true) moment

[solar venture]

Guys sorry, i want ask again this is okay right ? And did you have guide or something that i can read to understand more about arknight ? (Like tier liest, tips, trick etc)

[tropic valve]

are the 2 slots left open for flexibility?

[vernal lion]

that kroos tho

[tropic valve]

raising Kroos and Steward will cost very little, but be quite helpful

[fringe jackal]

is there a buffs guide on what to eat for ex 8?

[glass monolith]

Flex on it by feeding it all 9 buffs

[tropic valve]

yeah I tried to do all 9 buffs

[fringe jackal]

thanks

[tropic valve]

but I accidentally killed something early

so I did 8/9

[solar venture]

Maybe....

And if it true even with low rarity i can clear the endgame ?

[glass monolith]

Spawns are:
P1: Left - Dodge. Right - RES, DEF
P2: Left - DEF. Right - Dodge, Resist
P3: Left - Dodge. Right - Stacking ATK, Multitarget

[neat skiff]

SN-EX-8 and SN-S-5 totems.
Phase 2 = RES/DEF/dodge
Phase 3 = DEF/dodge/resist and slow immune
Phase 4 = dodge/multi-target/attack stack

SN boss has 3500 def with the totem.

You need at least 5 for the medal.

[fringe jackal]

thanks I will keep a note

[versed arrow]

I just feed the boss the 2 mobs that appear from the right every phase, seems to clear the mission for me

[neat skiff]

You can legit get only 4 totems.

Misplace RES and then focus on only getting 2 of phase 4 buffs.

[celest bluff]

Will of the masses? No
Grudge of the devs ✅

[neat skiff]

It was a pretty serious issue back during the original event. Hence me having a copy paste.

[fringe jackal]

thankyou for the tips everyone, I'll probably do a runthrough and see what buffs I can pick up 😄

[vernal lion]

1. def dodge,
2. def dodge,
3. dodge + random
   that's the least 3 different buffs

[celest bluff]

Just grab operator with true damage

[boreal magnet]

i cant kill endspeaker phase two on cm

mega skill issue

[celest bluff]

And lappland

[vernal lion]

Lee with 2 block kekw

you can let it eat def buff

as long as you nuke it to dead before it gives def buff and 3 block

[tropic valve]

wait you can do that?

[peak cloak]

i think u mist understand a bit end game.
end game is when you have enough strong and built ops ,enough knowledge to walk through a normal stages and end game contents are harder than normal ,u can takes cc for example.

and when u are in end game ,u basically dont need low rarity ops anymore unless u rlly like them or use them in some game modes.

[tropic valve]

like bypass its 40% HP buff trigger?

[vernal lion]

I haven't tested that

but

[peak cloak]

i started with full 3-4 stars squad and now end up with high rarity squad with only exception is Myrtle

[tropic valve]

Dr. Silvergun has shown that 4* can clear almost anything

maybe not D15 with bad relics

but at least every H stage

[neat skiff]

A surprising amount of people cannot understand "endgame" along with all the tiers from super casual to that extremity.

[vernal lion]

we choose what fit for each of us

[boreal magnet]

ah yess myrtle, the only vg u need

[neat skiff]

Like, people legit do not know the months to years of planning that go into clearing stages with low ops.

[boreal magnet]

should i bench myrtle for saileach tho

[neat skiff]

No.

[celest bluff]

You wouldn't play chap 13 with ops you have from the start, you have a bunch of banner to pull

[vernal lion]

if you don't have Sail

[boreal magnet]

i have sail, just not sure to build her cuz already s1m3 myrtle

[spark sinew]

it depends
considering that if you're asking, your sail is probably not p6, you shouldn't

[neat skiff]

Each standard bearer has their individual use. For 92% of content Myrtle is the exclusive one you will ever use.

[spark sinew]

sail s1m3 is also a bit of a hard to justify investment, outside of actually endgame accs

[vernal lion]

do you like a "Myrtle" that is more expensive and higher cost to s1m3 ?

[boreal magnet]

absolutely not

[spark sinew]

and if she's not s1m3, she has very different usage compared to myrtle

[neat skiff]

Saileach S1M3 is the single most “expensive” mastery in the game right now.

[boreal magnet]

aight, benching saileach until p6 then

[spark sinew]

same with ely (but ely is easy to justify for older players since they have him p6)

[neat skiff]

Saileach is used for her S3.

[vernal lion]

but seriously, you drag Saileach s3m3 with no burst skill?

funny enough tho

[neat skiff]

Her worst DP generation skill but the one with 3 utilities.

Stun, slow and fragile.

[vernal lion]

stun, slow and frag ofc

[peak cloak]

basically that.

[neat skiff]

Then if you only keep a flag on the field for 2 skill activations it goes Elysium > Myrtle > Saileach.

3+ activations it’s Elysium > Saileach > Myrtle.

[celest bluff]

Myrtle have no 3rd skill

Oh you mean counts

F

[tropic valve]

also Elysium saves you DP for each Sniper

and surely you'll be deploying lots of Snipers

[spark sinew]

like 0

[vernal lion]

Ely is fine on his own tier

[spark sinew]

i still use ely cause he looks better 🏃‍♂️

[celest bluff]

2 or 1

Or just use Texalt and Kirin

[eager gate]

Do Ling's little shits count as melee ops for handy buffs?

[vernal lion]

he did a very good job in my H12-4

[spark sinew]

surrounded by ladies as always

[boreal magnet]

🤏 margin

[neat skiff]

What do you expect. double digit males, triple digit females.

[spark sinew]

shhh

[glass monolith]

I am too bored to make same grath for EX and S stages

[eager gate]

so the average ak player thinks Pozyomka is broken not because of typewriter but on her own?
Amazing

[neat skiff]

Especially since we have no 6 star male defenders or snipers.

[boreal magnet]

they really had to start includint Ace as operator

[neat skiff]

Then you get into how until Lumen, the exclusive male healer we had was a 3 star.

[spark sinew]

maleknights were fairly interesting until we got an actual healer tbh

[vernal lion]

[boreal magnet]

wtf

[neat skiff]

the same 3 star male healer who is getting his first and only skin in 6 says in CN.

[spark sinew]

like sure you were gated from some stages, but on most of them it was an extra challenge to overcome

[celest bluff]

Vietnamese

Oh wait

I think we been here before

Please don't be something annoying

[vernal lion]

invisible spewers

[neat skiff]

Borrow a Hoshiguma...

She is basically always S2.

[boreal magnet]

S stand for Stupid

[vernal lion]

S stands for sadistic

[spark sinew]

borrow a hoshi

[eager gate]

I'm pretty sure hoshi fucking dies later on when there's a lot of em at once

[neat skiff]

Borrow a Hoshiguma.

[spark sinew]

hoshi survives, other stuff isn't

because enemies target like 3 ops at once

[celest bluff]

Oh I have something better

[spark sinew]

so other stuff usually dies before enemies

[neat skiff]

Like, you're missing a couple hundred damage per retaliation.

[eager gate]

Simpler solution is to slap Ines reveal zone and do a ranged only clear

[vernal lion]

borrow a better hoshi,
your hoshi is just like 10 years old

[spark sinew]

if you have skalter, on some stages you can cope with it ig

nope. won't work

[celest bluff]

[spark sinew]

lin L as always 🏃‍♂️

[vernal lion]

you know we have melee Lin,
her name is Penance

[neat skiff]

Like, there is a single slime path.

[tropic valve]

Lin takes 0 damage from spewers, and 0 damage from reefbreakers for a very, very long time

[neat skiff]

Of course Lin takes 0 damage from Spewers. SN-S-2 is the exclusive time she can be deployed on slime.

[neat skiff]

Especially since even at their most buffed spewrs deal 900 ish damage.

the threat comes from how often they attack.

[tropic valve]

with that much DEF a maxed Reefbreaker (1300 ATK) also can't break her

[eager gate]

I've been trying to do a sn9 low op trustfarm for girls from last event for like 30min until it hit me that Ling exists

1woman trustfarm solver

[vernal lion]

you're not wrong

[eager gate]

Now just gotta cope that auto doesn't break

[celest bluff]

I don't have the wolf lawyer

[spark sinew]

she's the judge

[eager gate]

She's neither

[celest bluff]

The

[eager gate]

There was a point at one point in IS where they just tell you that the laws there are fucking made up

[spark sinew]

all laws are
the ability to enforce them is what defines laws

[vernal lion]

law of justice =/= law of underworld

[deft badger]

we have been all joking about lin when she got released
meanwhile lin

[spark sinew]

does it matter if she isn't attacked

[sly drift]

Can someone explain why mumu clone sometime doesn't multiply when I use S3 even though there's absolutely nothing interupt it

[eager gate]

But I want her shield to break tho that def is a con not pro

[neat skiff]

Yeah, wait to see how many def buffs Lin needs to reach that.

[deft badger]

i wanna put her on a melee tile

[vernal lion]

too bad, her barrier is after def too

[glass monolith]

Just slap damage reduction, it calculates before shield

[vernal lion]

so like 1 dmg to barrier kekw

[vernal lion]

melee clone or ranged clone?

[spark sinew]

if melee, melee never multiplies^

[sly drift]

Ofc ranged bruh

Sometime it multiplied by only two sometime one or not at all

[neat skiff]

That is S2.

[sly drift]

It just weird lol

Wait

[vernal lion]

check skill

s2 is like a spike wheel
s3 is umbrella

[sly drift]

Oh right. My bad

[glass monolith]

Who here was thinknig melee clone regen from S2 is passive?

[neat skiff]

Coming from your display name?

[sly drift]

[neat skiff]

No one who can read.

[spark sinew]

well, about that...

[neat skiff]

so maybe 1/3 of the playerbase while being VERY generous.

[glass monolith]

Oh it was UnknownM's F- up

[vernal lion]

you're here because you're skill issue

[neat skiff]

Welcome the the joys of being an unabashed guide user.

[glass monolith]

I can't fuck up with Mumu clones. Because no Mumu

[neat skiff]

That's a you problem. Though turquoise snek booba was an afwul decision.

With any luck her reception was bad enough for another Passenger.

[sly drift]

Tomorrow is mizuki jellyfish?

[celest bluff]

Snake woman is decent as core caster really

BUT UNFORTUNATELY

[neat skiff]

No. No she is not.

[celest bluff]

We have better alternatives

A lot of better alternatives

[neat skiff]

Like you know you fucked up when she can't even out dps 4 stars.

As a 6 star.

[glass monolith]

Her S2 still better than Amiya's

[celest bluff]

[neat skiff]

Even Passenger at his worst could deal more damage than 4 stars.

He couldn't compete with the launch 5 stars. But he was better than 4 stars.

[celest bluff]

I don't have passenger
How bad is the dude

[neat skiff]

As a chain caster.

[sly drift]

Snake woman is hot. Enough reason to E2

[neat skiff]

Passenger is garbage before E2L40.

[celest bluff]

No

[neat skiff]

Dude needs a LOT of investment. then he becomes Godsenger.

[sly drift]

Curse ur opinion

[eager gate]

Passenger was so bad he made devs legitimately buff the stats
The only time we had actual stat changes in the game was cause by passenger

[neat skiff]

Don't invest?

Dogshit.

[zinc echo]

valid

[eager gate]

and then he was still bad and it took all the way to modules

[sly drift]

In her duration she can almost perma levitate enemies tho. (Single target )
Who knows she will be useful just like mostima after module

[neat skiff]

How?

[zinc echo]

also free missing clue from her

[eager gate]

They mean s1 rofls with a lot of sp chargers and Dorothy prob

which Irene already did a year before

[glass monolith]

Reminds me of some cases IRL, when strong wind/tornado just arrive, lift SINGLE roof/car/house, drop it, and then just disappear

[celest bluff]

[sly drift]

Snake woman is strong in lore

[celest bluff]

#ak-lore mfs would eat you alive

[eager gate]

Don't mention that cursed channel

You may summon them

[sly drift]

No worries fossil woman will save me

[celest bluff]

This channel for some reason

Mods doesn't come here often, but members still behave

[eager gate]

Wait no, no she won't
She literally just says "hey i don't really care"

[sly drift]

Back to #strategy again. How many is A def in number?

[eager gate]

it varies

is the answer

[sly drift]

I want to cope my Mod3 rosmontis

[sly drift]

I mean the number range. Someone have the data but i forgor

[eager gate]

Those letters mean really little

[neat skiff]

Gurl, it's not even consistent between normal and CM.

[glass monolith]

Range is very biased

We need to check each enemy, with each letter

[eager gate]

rosmod's problem is that it only makes her better at what she was already good at
And gives her an extra hit of minimum damage against anything else

but then again is it really a problem?

[vernal lion]

ros mod from 1,5 atk scale to 2,0 atk

[eager gate]

That's when you look at 0 def

2 and 3 hits are 0.5 afterall

Even trash mobs these days have like 300 armor

[vernal lion]

mod3 bypass 220 def

[neat skiff]

Trash mobs have 2000 def.

[eager gate]

yeye, which is why I say it made her better at killing trash mobs - the exact thing she was good at already

[vernal lion]

you think you use Ros to kill heavy def enemy?

[celest bluff]

You use Rosa

[neat skiff]

2.5 years ago was "holy shit dossoles holiday is so incredibly DEF heavy" and now we have literal trash mobs with more stats.

[tropic valve]

if you count CW shield guys as trash, then 3500 DEF trash

[neat skiff]

1720 def?

[glass monolith]

I started in DH 2 years ago. And did DH-9 in 45.... minutes

[neat skiff]

On a red elite in a S CM stage?

Amateur.

[sly drift]

We use her to kill mobs up to B+ def (Maybe A if S3)

[celest bluff]

Rosa: oh you're not going anywhere

[glass monolith]

[opal kiln]

in CN the letters actually correspond to a concrete range of values
idk when they implemented it, I think around adele?

[vernal lion]

Flinger can't hit aerial enemy is a thing,
they are designed to hit enemies with multi attacks

[neat skiff]

How old is that chart?

[tropic valve]

I would not use Ros for A DEF (1000 DEF)

[neat skiff]

Because many are wrong.

[celest bluff]

I mean no one does

[glass monolith]

Just Warf Ros

[opal kiln]

not old at all, it's from the game code that I checked myself when they added it, it's not random anymore

[neat skiff]

How recent is "not random anymore"?

[celest bluff]

DO NOT

[neat skiff]

Because it's sure as shit not global.

[tropic valve]

Aak instead, his buff is higher

[opal kiln]

I don't remember when they implemented it but it was like around adele/executor

[glass monolith]

It is graph for updated enemy into in CN because move speed and attack speed were added to it (ALSO IT FINALLY SHOWS WEIGHT)

[neat skiff]

Ok, cool. So in the future.

[opal kiln]

that's what I said in my first message yes

[celest bluff]

The only time you need to use Rosmontis is annihilation

Or reclamation algorithm

[tropic valve]

in spite of what I just said, I did get use out of Ros in CW, her multi hits are good for enemies that lose stats per hit

[glass monolith]

Are you trying to provoke me into building Ros and using at every single instance?

[neat skiff]

Only to justify my M6 Ros.

S1M3 and S3M3.

S1 being my most used.

[glass monolith]

But S3 make funny sounds... I think it was S3

[neat skiff]

All her skills make funny sounds.

Part of the reason Greyy alter is so disliked.

Ros throws literal buildings. Greyy throws pebbles.

[vernal lion]

flinger has a problem with attack animation,
if they land a hit to a target that got killed first, they will waste it

[jovial nest]

Ceobe heh

anyways

[celest bluff]

Hmm I missing aoe sniper

[jovial nest]

it's reset time

30 plans. Time to finally do S-5 and EX-8

[sly drift]

First time in my life to see ppl actually use s1 ash

[jovial nest]

I'm doing S-5 first since it's more straightforward

[neat skiff]

You're missing incredibly little.

[glass monolith]

Ceobe 4 tapping 40% bubble boy reminds me IW stage with CM being "Give funny artillery +80% DEF" or something

[celest bluff]

Here

[tropic valve]

there was WB-EX-6 CM where the Fortbreakers went from 1200 to 3000 DEF

moment

[sly drift]

Definitely moment

[vernal lion]

100% + 150% + 20%

[jovial nest]

I love how Ceobe just ignores the rules of CW's Defenders and Traffic Towers. That high DEF just fuels her that the higher RES barely mattered

[vernal lion]

it's number thing

big number better

[timid schooner]

STOP HEALING

the boss keep healing somehow

help

[jovial nest]

hmmm

what buff gave it that

either way

Mon3tr ready for deploy

you didn't block it again?

[neat skiff]

Apparently one of them since people keep complaining about it.

[jovial nest]

and ready Chalter too?

people getting too used to Kristen's idle ass

[vernal lion]

reefbreaker gives atk buff

[jovial nest]

sounds like the solution is MOAR damage then

hope my new friends enjoy that Pot5 Surtr

[neat skiff]

Way more easier said than done for most people.

[vernal lion]

MOAB damage

[spark sinew]

most people should just borrow gnosis or something similar to prevent the boss from acting

surtr won't help you much, depending on buffs

[jovial nest]

yeah of course. But I can imagine those that are having difficulty are hitting EX-8 or S-5 levels

I doubt new players with limited options can even reach that far

not with SN's gimmick and boss

[vernal lion]

I think it's only boss gimmick tho

[spark sinew]

80/90% dodge enemies that are unblockable 🙂

[vernal lion]

that's why they show you SN-7 as a tutorial stage

[deft badger]

SN was easy 1 year ago, SN is easy today

[vernal lion]

game is easy if it's not played by blind ppl

[deft badger]

there is a reason i was able to clear that event 1 week in the game, then the next 3 events i could just dream about clearing

[jovial nest]

Game is easy WITH PRIOR KNOWLEDGE

playing SN blind took a while to get a good boss clear in EX-8 for me

[spark sinew]

what were the next 3 events

[jovial nest]

although us having Tex2 and even Ya2 is very solid for SN

[spark sinew]

idt SN is on the easy side...

[deft badger]

after SN was gladiia

[jovial nest]

the FRD versatility

[deft badger]

i don't remember what came after that

[jovial nest]

it never was

[deft badger]

but i wasn't able to clear them

[jovial nest]

the only ones who said that are those that have OG cleared everything and know everything now

[spark sinew]

that's my point, jusan

was gladiia uder tides?

[jovial nest]

i don't know what it says about you

[velvet wind]

anyone here know how to clear sn 7

[jovial nest]

if you cleared SN easy

and then can't clear UT

[spark sinew]

surprised you couldn't clear it but cleared SN

[velvet wind]

im stuck there

[jovial nest]

my god dude

[velvet wind]

should i change

[deft badger]

wasn't able to do all EX stages on cm