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But I'm not confident I can explain properly (or that I have the correct explanation)
well operators and enemies target based on hatred level
the formula for enemy hatred level is 1000*taunt_level - distance_to_exit
not sure how this works for blocked enemies
u might be able to extrapolate this information
It doesn't
into blocked
r u sure its not cuz of how they are positioned?
like u block 2 from the front
Except Blitz who has ranged op targeting and can change target
and then push 1 in from the back
Nah I'm sure
ok
blocking priority after sleep might follow id
however, if the weight is the same (might happen because of limitation of floating point variables), the operator will choose to attack the target with the smallest fragmented id (usually means the enemy that spawns the latest)
u can check if that works for blocking order
they block the latest spawned enemy first
If you block an enemy in range of blem, but blem is already blocking, she will hit the one blocked by her, always
even if its closer to box?
so she retains her targeting
I've never seen this fail
from blocking
does her targeting change after sleep?
Although I believe Blitz still attacks the enemies blocked by himself first
Yes
During S2 Blem targets like a ranged op
I mean after s2
so during s2 blem will first attack the original enemy then swap to ranged targeting
is that right?
After it can change yes
Because attack prio on blocked enemies is block order
And block order depends on distance to the center of the blocker (aka, the tile you deployed them on)
And since the 2nd blocked enemy might clip deeper into Blem , it can get blocked first after S2
attempted watery tidehollow but got 395 instead of 400 ;-;
ah ok
Anyways
I want to summarize this
But I haven't found the time yet
I believe that as a defknights player, I should be the reference for how blocking works 
my situation regarding arts users is very limited but lin is a situational caster, so is it like, investment time, or do I try to hold off?
better than amiya?
Max Steward out, it's pretty cheap
You can raise Lin I guess
But she kinds of need module to work from what I understand
However I'm no caster expert
Next banner is Yato
Steward and Click will fulfill all your caster needs for now
Realistically you should never pull on standard banners
limiteds back-to-back?!
Yes...
yeah ill raise click now
Ifrit and Lin are good too but far more situational and map dependent
Until there’s an Ifrit lane 
wait so after this event?
Click, Amiya, Ifrit were all the casters I needed for a long time
@grand ginkgo how you getting ons with anni
no progress was busy
with borrow
yeah its simple then
just looking to clear as much as I can really
its county hillock im doing if thats the one
new anni is the one that has robots
ooo I did that one
just barely I think
yeah I did that two days ago 
tbh I should probably focus on clearing some story maps, since im not up to date yet
spend sanity on event, no?
ive basically cleaned it out already
xd
once the extra stages appear, the extra event stuff from those will get most of the remaining stuff
basically I've got from 6-10 to current date to clear ;-;
can someone help me with 7-16 please?
which part get you killed
What the problem?
i get domed from the missile guys
Targets last deployed in range, problem solved
Deployment order
Spawn camp them with Gummy 
7-16 is patriot map or i am ahead of it?
If killing them in front of their red boxes is not an option have Nearl/Saria/Cuora or whatever else can just heal from being physically assaulted
u cant place anyone near them
oh wait
yeah
i can try that sorry im dumb
Damn almost every boss in this game is sleep immune, not fun 
ok i gave up and just used my ling 💀
phew I managed to do the rest of world 6
Spawncamp top with Horn, borrow if needed
Tutorial finished 
i did it ty tho
Shamare need to exist for her doll to stay or she can be recalled after throwing doll at enemy?
Aw, boomer 
Hello! Does anyone have any advice for dealing with the Ringleaders in WB-6? I'm considering trying Tsukinogi's S1 to clear their stealth but I'm not sure if I have any better options for them: https://krooster.com/u/T

Just wait them in bottom, trigger their first hit with frd or smt. U also have mud
They will walk 1 by one
Ah she does sound like a good idea! And @glass monolith I didn't even realize he could attack stealthed enemies, thanks!
Totter + Mudrock was a winning combo! Thanks!

didnt know you get yellow certs by getting the amiya extras
Oh, Amiya counts as recruit in story? It is one of those things which are done so long ago I forgot
ye I got 5 for doing world 6
if I do the last pot, it puts me on 133/180 for the next shoperator
dont know how ill find 47 yellow certs in two weeks tho
ive been praying and only got 4 fast redeploys in the last week
no summons ;-;
oh I did get mayer yesterday on a random tag

Oh also first ever tsukinogi from supporter+survival, perma acc dmg 
Perma recruitment damage will happen if they add Deepcolor into it 
i'm pretty sure it's a net increase in gold certs because of how much more common 4* tags are vs 5* tags
like i've gotten more than 5x more cutters than firewatches ever since cutter was added to recruitment (and 0 firewatches before she was added)
People tell recruit selects rarity at start, so if you have 4* luck you see 4* tags. My issue is than on CN all 5* recruits are 2 or 3 tags already except summon tag
How many Sniper + Survival i missed? How many times i will ignore AoE + DPS?
wait who's aoe dps
WTF
not on en yet
CN only, but it will be on global eventually
Okay, AoE is best tag on CN confirmed 

Beeswas the GOAT 
at what point should I consider bring elyisum instead of myrtle as flagbearer?
Are there enemy to reveal? Are your team 11 snipers? Do you want to M3 5*? 
got myrtle already raised and ely at E1 lvl 30
id just run myrtle for now
tbh
but ely is definitely a good raise
just depends on what other options you have
basically got all three flagbearers
It depends.
Myrtle has faster first skill activation if you need DP faster, or healing other vanguards for whatever reason (with talent not S2).
Ely is better with Snipers, more DP gen in the long term, need to reveal/debuff enemies
do you have any dps options
that arent e2d yet
just depends on your e2 priorities
also reasonably sure ely only makes more dp gen in the long term with s1m3 but not 100%
only dps vanguard I have is vigna at E2
just add ur 5* and 6* tbh

Me with 160 of 5-6 combined 
Owned, only 1/3rd of them e2d 
After 1.5 years of suffering i am only 1/3rd to e2 entire owned roster

how do I link the krooster?
E2 lvl 20
alr nice
i think masteries are more important than e2ing ely for you
you have a lot of really good ops at e2 that get a lot better with masteries
texas s3m3 surtr s3m3 reedic s2m3 kal exu penance lapp etc
id get those masteries going before raising anybody new
youll probably be occupied with that for quite a bit

if you refresh you should be able to see everything now
just did it because it was quite fast
which kal/exu skills are they?
s3 on both
thanki
oo actually one more thing, how do I get a level 3 mastery place with 252 base?
downgrade something on left side or dorm
wouldnt that harm xp and money? since I dont have a provisio ;-;
you kind of have to
otherwise youll never be able to m3
downgrade a factory or something
are your power plants all max level
yep yep
oh yikes, you can never downgrade the training room
is there a time where you'd go for S3M2 for reed alt instead of S2?
LS-4 slug showcase 
Arts fragility and atk down
honestly I think reedalt is tied to be my favourite op with perfumer
ye, I like big explosions, that anni was great for that
She's a deployable lagspike in SSS against that flower boss
Leave myrtle last
Why
Why would you not
Myrtle is probably THE most important unit in the game
god this chat makes me wanna kms
That texas surtr need mastery more
My man this person is probably asking this for general content
im like 4 months into the game 
whats this persons highest stage cleared?
It doesn't matter how much more dmg tex/surtr can do, they'll delete everything anyway
why are you e2ing fia if you're not doing her masteries
Just drop the e2 prio
another good question
it's also really weird how you do a bunch of m1's
then m2
it's better to complete a m3 cycle instead of going on like this
oh is it?
you will take longer to achieve individual skill powerspikes
yes
you generally master a skill because of great gains
and m3 is normally the best mastery (not always true)
Just going through scraps will make it take more time for your squad to turn stronger and it makes harder to commit
this be better then?
This looks fine

Why do yall do myrtle like that man
looks good
She's hardly relevant enough to master above something with real impact like texas and surtr
She's also cheapest, AND gets all od your units deployed faster
She's a more universal buff
general stages don't even need dp surge
you're really huffing on copium
It's a little more dp efficiency
General content also doesn't need m3 surtr + texas
over actual good upgrades
I'm sure it makes clearing stages easier
than myrtle s1m3
😇
-3 dp cost, +3 initial sp
for a first cycle 6 seconds faster
that don't really matter because those stages don't rush you
wao so broken /s
you get the same dp ammount
I'd still go for myrtle and then spam texas with my dp printer, but do as you guys do I guess
Kill the boss 1 tick faster
me when my myrtle is not m3 so i cannot get any dp and cannot spam texas
its gnover 

howd i get more blue cubes guys
i don't know what bosses you're fighting
that texas would kill in one cycle
this woman don't deal nearly as much damage as you're assuming brother
hes on crownslayer
in IS?
Integrated strategies
ive barely touched it
yes integrated strategies
you can get resources as level up rewards
it's a bit grindy but it's worthwhile
you can borrow some strong support unit like ling, pozemka or gavial the invincible and easily get at least to floor 3 to farm exp
you have good units so clearing IS shouldn't be hard

IS2?
IS3 low diff is very easy too
both are fine with their team
id need level 53 to get more blue cubes on IS3 ;-;
IS3 is easier than IS2 for sure.
wait really?
Wow...
yes!!!!!!!
Are we actually saying "Myrtle S1M3 is top prio" ?
What's top prio is having a use for that DP
Ain't no way you'll drom Myrtle to make Melantha arrive faster 
How else are you gonna have a mudrock on the field in 0.003 seconds
Myrtle is the most powerful vanguard for the whole reason vanguards exist.
I have way too many blue cubes
not saying myrtle is number 1 priority
oh you want polymerized gel?
i just woulden't do her dead last
🧐
depends on what i have tho
You should
my myrtle is M1
and how far i am
Just like how you should do buffers last
Myrtle should not be a first E2 probably, better to E2 something that has an effect on the battle.
i agree with buffers last
The idea I had was "this person doesn't need gigaton damage, so myrtle is a good universal account booster"
Myrtle is without a doubt the least relevant "good" unit
Get over it
Once you start Masteries Myrtle gets higher priority
yeah
Also am I the only person who finished masteries all the way if I started them
Unless it's a breakpoint like Ifrit S2
I just can't have multiple guys on M1
real
and now I don't use Ifrit
well not much you can do outside IS
You could farm gel on regular stages but it's not worth going over the event
ive m3d all my m1s other than ifrit
Almost as if Ifrit fell off 
lmao

my mudrock S2 is s7
wtf
sl7
dies of cringe
It will also take a bit for gel farm stages
As she should
I've used it a grand total of once
m6 or bust
for H8-1
Lmao no 30000 dps = shit
The real Mud skill is S3
agree
I only use S3

it's fun
Ifrit has both percentage and flat res reduction
wow really?
fudgesticks
Yes drop all your orundum and m9 ifrit
Because every decent arts dealer now has their own RES shred
Now
real and true
bnuuy
I did on purpose because I hate her
why god must put RMA and device on a rerun event
Who tf uses arts anyways ?
Ok and ?
That was not the argument though?
ur argument is that
ifrit gives both flat and % res shred
and most good arts dealers only do flat
therefore ifrit has usage
There being "better" units doesn't make other units shit
we get free 6*?!
RES debuff is irrelevant.
So I'm on 2-10 and I honestly don't have a clue/strategy to defeat this stage. May I have someone help me out?
chat trying to shit talk ifrit again 
imagine trying to use phantom s2 now a days
we arent purposely trying to shit talk her
make sure Skullshaterer (SS) is doing ranged attacks on a single target
use arts damage on the left side of the map, physical on the right
supposedly you only need one operator on the healing tile to take care of those AoE casters
quad D
(what was the point of that lmao)
((why is this a reply tf)
well not necessarily just saying right now i hear people in this server go back and forth about arts being dead bc res kills them then others going res shredders won’t do anything like what is the truth 
Ok
Gotta sleep
You all handle 2-10
Goodnight
aka meta options in both phys and arts
phys is the far superior option in the meta as of now
I say I am a ifrit enjoyer
It's a cesspool in here, just think for yourself and play however you want
Alright, I'll see what I can do.
gn squid
Nah I meant that as "the other mfs should help you" 💀
can you send a photo of your squd so we can see what you have/need
gnite
bro's bailing 
gn
Shikikikiki
i mean ya makes sense when mlynar just schwing schwing the whole map away
I like you
I can send what Operators I have.
its also definitely different depending on what stage of the game you're at
you have chungy wungy woah
but yeah
ohman
Flattery, appropriated.
hoshi should be more then able to tank skullshatterer assuming yo have good enough medics
chungy wungy should be able to do it no?
ifrit felt very nice for that one chapter that said "fuck your arts damage" i still used s2 and went about my day
but yeah phys better there for instance
next time sort by levels
Mulberry E1, probably the best Medic I have.
but this is ok
squid is a very experienced nicheknights player
Alright.
but once u get more ops
that and maybe gavial should be good, but youll need arts to take care of the defenders, and then some form of AA for the defense drones
u realize that phys ops are better and the good arts ops dont have any problem shelling out stupid amounts of damage by themselves
lava and steward unbuilt
so it just kinda eliminates the need for ifrit
Let me load in a few screenshots real quick.

i would say i have a reasonably built account of 6*s but i get lazy sometimes and just horn s1 ifrit s2 shit when i’m tired after work and can’t be bothered
eh
as much as people in help lose their shit when people say this
in all honesty ifrits range is annoying
like instead of coping stupid 1 tile ifrit id rather just use like
an op that can hit more than
1 tile idk

mhm, amiya wont be able to do it all 
early game loves arts
not to mention you wont have enough phys to kill the defenders at that point
the solution is just creating a choke point or two in the enemy pathing but i mean that becomes kind of null and void when we have ops that murder the enemy before they even get blocked 
yeah
should probably see if they are borrowing tbh
like
in most events
i just put mountain on the red box
and watch him punch
he is very cool 
Real
mountain moment 
you needs to levels lava because she the best and also chungy wungy
caught in 4k
even in difficult content where enemies have a lot of res
Can't wait for the next destroy all enemies on the map and move on unit
ifrit still has fallen off
Understood.
just because
again
phys better + good arts ops are fine on their own
but ifrit is definitely valuable for newer players
no question
plus she makes anni very easy
can attest, I got ifrit early and she carried me through many levels including annis
yeah
better
honestly with how your account is I would look to E1 hoshiguma
you don't have any murder units yet
so her tankiness would help
specter +medic(?) could probably be dps on right, hoshi and arts + medics on left. and AA wherever its needed
also melantha for the caster
I think I have more than enough Defence chips to E1 Hoshiguma (I keep forgetting to E1 my Defenders even though I remind myself for the thousandths time)
level: perfumer, lava, ansel, chungy, gravel, cuora
if you do those you'll be in a better position for future maps too
lol
many stuff can be solved by hoshi + medic + kroos
it's nice
perfumer my love
not in this order btw
I'd E1 hoshiguma and then get my base slaves online
I usually stick to medics and vanguards, fast deploy and of course, healing.

make sure to E2 perfumer first too because perfumer is bae
But I keep forgetting Defenders are one of the important classes for the stages.
yea
You simp for that Operator or the Operator is just that good to use?
yes
simp
Simp
she carries many maps with global heal too
my first E2 was Angelina
Defenders op
also allows event clears with units like ling from support
(I mainly simp for maniacs. That includes Sarkaz mercenary W)
wow
chungy wungy
ehhh
No clue.
if he had self sustain
I hear he is
he is budget mountain from what I hear
I would call him one
u can put one in front
idk
cause thats probably what i would do
I just realized what you meant by that is Chongyue. 🪦
if i had chongyue
he too squishy
doesnt that just
chungy wungy 
depends ig
(I'm a total f'ing idiot)
i am only thinking s3 when i say that
ranged guard behind him
chongyue wont really leak if his skill 3 is up
he has like 4 offensive sp cost since his hits r now double strike
I don't have chongyue but he's fine by himself+Skalter
how many maps do u need that? idk
his skill hits r also aoe
y ah he aint handling shit lel

not like right behind him
no no myrtle solos maps
this is why we do myrtle first
need to get those masteries to be able to solo
solos the game
chongyue
it is weird
pepela
from WD exploding mfs
he died of cringe
And here I thought I had enough Defender chips. I think I wasted it on some other Operator. Or I think I forgot to afk farm the Defender chips.

sadge
what are the current ops you are taking into 2-10
so
how do you clear
WD-5 with garbage units 
what's WD-5
witch doctor no. 5
xolli late game player real?
WOAH LIN
it's got camo swordsmen
roadblock thing
Xolli late game
I usually have two Medics, 3-4 Defenders, 2 Vanguards, 1 Specialist, ? Supporter, 2 Snipers, and I'm f'ed I forget how many class type operators I have into my team.
oh
fire
arts for tanky guys, cheese the drone summoners with a hookmaster
mb
seems good, dont really need a supporter in most cases tbh tho
I'm also stuck on that crappy stage.
Might as well trash my supporters.
dies in like 3 hits
oh
and E0 dps can't clear pylons
ye
time to go watch that e0 level 1 run again of it
Oh right, my supporters are useless.
have you tried 2-10
I had to reroll supports like 15 times to find one
me when lvl 5
I've been sitting here, doing something with my alt.
just do a run and screenshot how you setup
Man u should have better jp friens

bro
just friend banana
I started this account
amirite
Speedrun find whale
friend the jp players that invented

why jp
the cc5 horizontal ifrit tech
and not cn
Cn need ur irl info
cc5 kek
U wanna sell ur soul to play in cn?
nani what is horizonital irfits
yes
Then do it
epic jp anni5 technology
Eh... Very well then, on 45 sanity since I keep afk farming. But I'll see where my idiotic end leaves off.

use practice plans
I do that too much.
I think I'm on 25 practice plans.
I know.
where perfumer at
interesting anni
oki its 2am I go sleepy
Can I tear one of you guys insides out if I run out of practice plans.
gl on 2-10
wtf
I love that anni
Heavyrain cheese real 
so I deleted
They refresh 30 everyday
Slash intestines.

I know.
So don't worry about running out. They're there for u to use 

this is a lappphone moment
I'm sorry for being bad 
true
skill
skull
lin start
its cause


you have to literally reinstall the entire game to reroll
i got shining on my JP roll 
it takes like 45 minutes
Oh wth
💀
I spent like 3 hours rerolling earlier today 
w
(he got 2 rerolls in)

at least you didn't reroll 140 times
wait should I do
i didn't know rerolling was that bad on jp man wtf
dies of cringe
or reed
cant u borrow like
i didnt reroll on any of my accs bc im a chad
blez
for skill
mtn?
E1 mountain kinda squishy
~~E2 myrtle and borrow ling
~~
it was easier than the last event
fucking
tbh
ima try kal borrow
surely E0 lin is enough arts damage
Definitely easier than last event i would say
mhm
surely
: clueless :
dying of cringe rn
but like its fine
it works
just
stack 2 casters and 2 medics
on mountain
itll probably be fine
uh
uh
Real
SSS angle
turtle before myrtle
I know I'll skip qiubai so I'll reroll for her
lemme see
on an alt
idr
clueless
xd
Frd?

mmkay yeah the casters are cracked af
idk
yeah Lin can't tank arts that well
this is probably where you stop for a bit
would be cool if you got it out tho
I'm gonna go now
I do in this stage is I let the sword fucker go in to near the blue box tank it with defender and go ham with snipers or casters
And I position my sniper and caster out of the camo sword moving path so they don't get killed
They are the ones more easier to kill imo
The caster is like two or three you can assassinate them with texalter
oh wait i just realized the casters aren’t the invisible ones 💀
en moment
The sword fuckers has the invisibility
yeah i had a reading skill issue
ah yes, I will definitely use my texas alter

I thought you are veteran?
i just started JP guys
what do i do 
Hi guys is it true that arknights is a f2p game

what's leaking
The boss
sandwich him between 2 defenders
since he can only stun one at a time
gav + saria can probably handle the entire top side
what are the other 2 enemies leaking tho?
I think a few leaked after he killed some of my operators
Before I had enough dp to deploy more to cover
so just make sure that corrosion archers aren't doing too much and casters don't break your defenses
and also mlynar should just like
make the boss disappear

except when he is stunned
I'm pretty sure he got sniped, things got hectic towards the end
Penance got stunned too and I was counting on her to block that green tunnel exit
not really a good choice to block boss
since he slapp
might use penans to kill corrosion archers since her S3 has taunt on skill
Yeah, I was hoping I could just save her skill and mess him up
That's been my go to for most things lately lol
penans also slapp
but the blood knight is kinda cracked so I'd stick with defenders that can be healed by medic
or mon3tr that works too
So who should block where exactly? I had Saria and Blemi back to back up top and just spammed Blemi's skill to both heal the diagonal tile down and right of her (Pozy) and to hold the insane amount of enemies pouring in up top
gav + saria should be able to hold everything
Gavial and Texas picked up stragglers
and yeah texas can plug gaps
focus on killing corrosion archers, casters, toppola, and blood knight
unless your gav/saria are really low level they really should be able to duo the top, and certainly with texas help
Where exactly do the archers spawn? Is it top left and bottom lanes? Should I use Gnosis and Pozy to kill them fast since I can't drop Texas on them?
top left
then they take the tunnel to bottom right
and then the tunnel to center left
blood knight and casters follow same path
toppola spawns from center left iirc
So if I can just concentrate my firepower up there I can kill them fast?
What's the better Saria module
yeah
what does mod y even do
15% DR, more stats
oh damn DR
it's highly superior for tanking
and the bonus attack improves healing
though not quite as much as X mod
oh right X doesn't have def
the only thing X has is sp
maybe i will get it after i do other stuff then
since well i already did mod X 
Should Saria's S3 be prioritized for Mastery even if I barely use any Arts damage on standard team?
S1M1-> S3M3 -> S1M3. S2M3 is good for general use for normal maps, not hard content
When would I want to use S1? When I have no arts damage dealers?
her s1 is healing
yes s3 heals
and yes its once in a blue moon useful in that situation
but its literally
a giant ass arts ramp
thats what you use it for
so yes s1 and s2 for heals
strategy to get every 6 star from every banner on your first pull: remove mountain from being pull pool
gavial borrow making crownslayer trivial 🛐
For Arts damage, does Ling's S3 dragons always deal arts damage, or only when her skill is active? What about fused Higher Form?
small dragons deal phys
big dragons deal arts
the aura around the dragons deals arts damage based on ling's own atk
Thanks, thought so but her skill didn't specifiy about what Higher Form did
Interesting, guess that gives me incentive to alternate between two standard teams, Elysium+bunch of snipers and physical hitters team, and a Ling+Mages+Saria other staples team. For the second one would Myrtle be better than Elysium if no snipers?
Man afknights just got so much easier
if you're using elysium S2 you'd want snipers
otherwise it's up to you
I love it


