strategy

[vernal lion]

[cursive mango]

we did it!!

thanks

[polar steppe]

can i borrow you’r horn real quick

[hollow forum]

sure, lemme set it up

[proud drift]

[hollow forum]

Yvad#9875

[vernal lion]

[polar steppe]

sent.

[hollow forum]

accepted, have fun

[polar steppe]

this feels OP

[cursive mango]

just did NL-10 from memory yay

[hollow forum]

mhm

[cursive mango]

going to revise for my exam now, but ill share the clear squad for NL-10 if it helps someone at a similar level as me
key units to have:
cardigan for tank at E1 lvl 55
dps units for left swords
small deployables for snipers to take hits

[hollow forum]

at most you only need like, an extra lane holder / sniper to finish em off

[cursive mango]

silly squad can farm it on manual at x2 speed

feelsgood

[proud drift]

Manual farming

[cursive mango]

its really easy

[proud drift]

Solution: clear with an auto to not lose your irl sanity

[cursive mango]

but I need to borrow a unit to even beat the map haha

[proud drift]

Unfortunately

I do recommend to e2 a dps

Cause perfumer first e2 is kinda

[hollow forum]

I still remember having to manual farm during SN, literally started out like, 2-3 weeks before that

absolutely refused to farm SN-10 for obvious reasons

[cursive mango]

dont dis perfumer because she enabled me to get E2 supports ;-;

[proud drift]

Ya but it could’ve been literally anything that does damage

Like a cutter for example

[hollow forum]

it's already been done, so it is what it is

just, focus on E2ing an actual DPS next

[cursive mango]

what E2s would you recommend for that job?

[hollow forum]

you have Exu right there, might as well go for her

[proud drift]

Exu is a very good e2

[cursive mango]

but she cant deal with tnaky units tho right

[proud drift]

Defense no

for thst you need arts

[hollow forum]

in the later chapters, yeah

but that's not important atm is it

[cursive mango]

im up to 3-7 in the main story

[proud drift]

Issue is this game doesn’t have very accessible good consistent casters

Like

Goldenglow or eyja is only caster you need

Ifrit works too

Ceobe good too soon™️

Others require investment

But otherwise you don’t really need arts until pretty far into story

Ch7 is when you truly need arts

Before that idk if necessary

[cursive mango]

vanguard wise I have no dps vangauds, but have a texas and seige and saileach
guard I have a lapland and spectre
defenders as seen
snipers exu and kroos
casters animya and ifrit
medics as seen
other two niche ones, I have nothing

[proud drift]

Maybe there’s a stray shieldbro here and there

[hollow forum]

now that uncle horse exists you can go pretty far without actual casters

[proud drift]

Ifrit is good raise if u need arts

Siege is decent kinda?

Siege can also function as a dps somewhat

[proud drift]

Also specialists have three funny units that will fill pretty important role

Projekt red, kafka and Gravel

Fast redeploys are very useful for quite a surprising amount of cases

[cursive mango]

Not got kafka I don’t think

[proud drift]

U don’t need all 3

[cursive mango]

Got red tho

[proud drift]

Gravel is usually enough

[hollow forum]

at the bare minimum, raise gravel

or Jaye, he works

[proud drift]

Red is useful for S2

But gravel is very good as bait

Jaye also very powerful

Supporters uhhh

from non 6*

Only shamare and orchid I’d say are worth investing somewhat

Shamare even better if you raise exu

[cursive mango]

I’ve got Istiana

[hollow forum]

she's not very good

[cursive mango]

Ye..

[proud drift]

Very good for physical dps

[hollow forum]

orchid will do just fine for supporter

[cursive mango]

Oh wait I have an orchid

[latent monolith]

Podenco and proviso ig

[cursive mango]

alright, many thanks for your help guys, I gotta do 5 hours of revision for my exam

[proud drift]

Oh scene if you get her

Scene kinda useful too

But more niche

Scene is from cc store so you can get her whenever

[proud drift]

Idk what proviso does

I’m provisoless

[latent monolith]

eats gold

Shortest roi on E2 promotion for base

[cursive mango]

orchid, gravel, red, ifrit, siege, kafta - whats the order of best fit?

[proud drift]

Don’t need to raise kadka

Kafka

Kafka is best e0

Uhh

Right now I’d raise

Exu>Ifrit>Siege>Gravel

Red doesn’t need E2 to be useful

Gravel scales well as a bait with levels, but doesn’t need much either

[latent monolith]

Siege E1 ifrit E1 gravel E1 (also base slave) then maybe exu E2 ifrit E2

[cursive mango]

rightio, thats great, now I have whats called a plan ^^

thanks again

[proud drift]

Also

Don’t pull next banner

Stainless stinky

Unless husbando or sth idk

But after next event we get sexas a.k.a texas the omertosa

A.k.a one of the most broken units in the game that is also limited

[tidal sedge]

[cursive mango]

unfortunely having started 12 days ago, I only have 4620 and 70 ore/OP

but I do have the monthly card

for sanityu

[tidal sedge]

You have almost 3 weeks, you can do it

[cursive mango]

[proud drift]

The event is also gonna give free pulls

One free x10, a free x1 every day and probably some orundum every login

[cursive mango]

also quick question, is courier worth investment?

[proud drift]

No

E1 at most

You have siege and texas

[tidal sedge]

Dwo

[somber falcon]

Just siege but

[tidal sedge]

I single pulled Saileach last night @proud drift

Because I was trolling with zenith risking it all

my dp problems from being a 6 star doctor ends today

[lethal dragon]

Lol

Does he know?

[proud drift]

Bruh

[tidal sedge]

[proud drift]

Everyone getting saileach

Took me 60 pulls to cope for horny

Got sailfeet instead

[tidal sedge]

Sailfeet

[lethal dragon]

Rigged banner

[proud drift]

HUH

I did a single pull

It’s a rainbow bag

[lethal dragon]

Mudrock

[proud drift]

HORNY IS HOME

🛐

I can ticket suzuran

[tidal sedge]

LETS GO

WE ALL GETTING SINGLES

Yw for making you do a single

[cursive mango]

should my base be set up just making XP now or money, using 2-5-2 but not have access to level 3 buildings as of yet

[tidal sedge]

Still both, Albeit you get a decent amount of xp and lmd through doing story

[cursive mango]

2 factories doing gold and 3 doing xp?

[tidal sedge]

Yea that works

Don’t be me and do full XP for months with only 10k LMd a day

When I was new

[cursive mango]

im starting to run out of bars tbh, I had like 110 the other day, now its 24

so I'll do 3 gold, 2 xp

[tidal sedge]

I’m surprised 2 bars can’t keep up with 2 tp

[cursive mango]

the bars are being made in level 1 factories

[somber falcon]

It's fine, just build it on your pace

[cursive mango]

well many thanks for you help guys, its been very good, actually time to revise for 5 hours now

[tidal sedge]

Happy to help

[vernal lion]

hmm interesting

[proud drift]

Depends on efficiencies

And luck

If TP goes constant 4x then rip

I run 243 cuz lazy

I drone gold if I’m low

Or buy it with credits

[glass monolith]

Thanks to Proviso WHERE THE FUCK IS MY GOLD BARS?

[tidal sedge]

I see

Didn’t think to drone gold bars

I should too

I’m focused on lmd rn, 3/3/3

[proud drift]

Do 2 4 3 or 2 5 2

2 5 2 is supposedly better

2 4 3 is the lazy way tho

Cause less shifting and refurbishing

Since you need to downgrade dorms n shit for 2 5 2

[glass monolith]

[proud drift]

Or be like a certain person here (not shu) who didn’t even build a training room

[lethal dragon]

If you don't let your sanity cap then 243 isn't sny better than 252

[proud drift]

#r-i-i-c has some mega nerds who play baseknights

[vernal lion]

⏱️

[proud drift]

So they might help more with it

[glass monolith]

WHY WON'T YOU MOVE

[vernal lion]

[lethal dragon]

Kill them

Can aak kill them

[glass monolith]

Will do in chapter 12 and IS event

[latent anvil]

my SA cant kill the two drones at the start by himself

how to low op

[glass monolith]

Don't drone be LappDumb in his reach for enough time?

[lethal dragon]

Wait for reed then 3op it

[latent anvil]

can already three op it with a lot of stuff

but usually they use SA that can kill the drones at the start

[lethal dragon]

Bruh no I think kaktsit Ng and pozy can 3op

Reed is for medic knight clear

Me lappdumb

[latent anvil]

dont have ex wife either

[lethal dragon]

You have 7 months to get her for her skin

Do it

[latent anvil]

oh okay ill just get her then

that easy

[elder flume]

i forgot conviction cant skill without target

have to get stainless fr

[vernal lion]

it's more funny that op with invis or camo won't get targeted too iirc

[foggy grove]

grab stainless

so many weird tech

[vernal lion]

https://streamable.com/5gs28f

btw SA can solo 2 drones in time, without baiting frd

I just make it easy

[elder flume]

current non infinite duration skills
scene
skalter
fiammetta [conditional]

[vernal lion]

what's that for?

[elder flume]

idk

just info ig

theres still quite a lot of infinite duration fact checking i need to do

Atleast she looks cool

[vernal lion]

interesting

[latent anvil]

that is

very strange

[elder flume]

looks very normal

it acts as if i pressed skill off

cuz i never turned it off

[vernal lion]

if they want an unlimited duration, they have to shut down the duration mechanism

or don't give it a sp bar, set it as passive skill and just charge it normally, until you have gotten enough sp for skill and activated it

[latent anvil]

what about thorns and plat

[elder flume]

they managed to make it unlimited for nothing

his gauge never goes down

thorns and plat is just animation lock

stats n range still there

[latent anvil]

mhm

[elder flume]

tho i do wonder if nothing s2 is anni dp gauge

im not gona put my phone up for 13 days

13 hours should be enough to see if it chipped the gauge tho

[vernal lion]

13 days is 6.5 days on x2 ?

[elder flume]

13 days is x2 time

oh wait 1mil seconds is 11.5 days irl rite

ig its just 5 days of x2

fuck i didnt check on weedy

she regained her infinite state

[vernal lion]

imagine playing the game like you're in war right now

1 battle for 5 days...

[elder flume]

cc9 be like

[elder flume]

i think im only missing ntr s1 gg s2 suzuran s2 and jaye s2?

pretty sure jaye is just animation lock but i'll test

no idea how ammo works so havent gone through them

[latent anvil]

Do you need support for ntrk and suzu

[elder flume]

i can get ntr from is

im doing suzu n jaye rn

feel free to test ntr from ur side

[proud drift]

rainchan why are you cooking so much

[elder flume]

did u like ur fiammetta showcase

[proud drift]

yes what the fuck

[latent anvil]

I still have to burn 400 sanity but after that i will do ntrk s1

[elder flume]

offensive skill without the need to attack enemies

truly a one of its kind

[proud drift]

professional ako chef

[elder flume]

just put a medic on last enemy in front of red box and burn thru ntr gauge

[latent anvil]

Wait do you really go into IS and then into a stage like 'justice' just to test stuff like that?

[elder flume]

actually this suzu is s3

might need fren change

[turbid badge]

waow

fren deleted

[latent anvil]

Kugisaki#6813 I will put suzu and ntrk if you want

[proud drift]

wait but rain

if you put your phone up for 5 days

[elder flume]

uhh its more of possibilities i think about when showering
thoughts just come up when i bath on how to answer my random questions

[proud drift]

how do you dailies and such

[elder flume]

you dont

[turbid badge]

just use a different account

[elder flume]

technically you can if you go double device

cuz in battle idt you get kicked out no?

game takes up whatever loads last

so 2nd device should count ur sanity uses

[turbid badge]

oh intresting i thought it would still kick u out

[elder flume]

i dont have emu so feel free to try

[latent anvil]

Yesterday I went two device in IS and something happened where it kicked me out... But maybe that was after stage

[proud drift]

I'll try

just started nl-8 auto

gonna login on phone

[latent anvil]

You wont get rewards from the auto

But it won't kick you out stage I think

[proud drift]

now I have two autos playing

time to see what happens when this auto finishes

[elder flume]

added

[proud drift]

yeah stage ends

insta kicked

now to login on pc to see if it deduced sanity

[elder flume]

hmm thats sad

[proud drift]

HUH

IT COUNTS AS LOST

I LOST 1 SANITY

[quartz pendant]

I see that Ereshkigal pfp

Based pick

[glass monolith]

I lost all NL sanity shields on reading lore after pressing Start

[elder flume]

guess the answer really is just to suck 5 days worth of sanity into the drain

[proud drift]

and 1000 orundum

more*

and a bunch of other stuff

[elder flume]

someone alr made a vid about going thru the days while anni dp counts up

[latent anvil]

Added and switched support

[turbid badge]

rip

[proud drift]

they should give archetto a module

that makes her sp recovery not limited to snipers

[turbid badge]

thats called chen smhsmh

[proud drift]

yes I want two of them

[latent anvil]

hope frostingbytes finished patriot stage cuz he is being culled from fl

[elder flume]

you get to test my s3m3 siege now

[latent anvil]

how very useful

but then again i literally never use support on anything anymore

[elder flume]

just a waiting game now

[latent anvil]

ayo what are they hitting

[elder flume]

just the detector

free blocker

[latent anvil]

[vernal lion]

it's pretty old but I still like this lol

[elder flume]

I messed up

i cant multitask an 8 sp cost

[tidal sedge]

Hello! Newb here! I'm kinda stuck on nl-s-4 cm and i'm wondering if there is a strat that doesn't involve facetanking the boss and the blades with defenders ?

[latent anvil]

uh

https://imgur.com/zmTj6Q2

maybe not exactly newbie friendly but there is definitely a strat that doesnt do that

[tidal sedge]

well since i'm only a 3 month old account i can't really pull the angelina/weedy combo

I have a bunch of 4* E1 maxlvl skill7 and all 3* upgraded. Only cardigan can take more than 1 hit out of defensive skills because i lack trust and pots on others like matterhorn for example

I can't do the beanstalk strat either because i didn't fed her xp

I'm kinda stuck

[latent anvil]

borrow kalt

[tidal sedge]

tried it but then i lack healing

[elder flume]

tried splitboxing left side to lower dps check and tank check?

[tidal sedge]

yeah i even tried kyo strat but my ops either lacks healing or hp from bonus trust/pots

They can survive fine during skills but after that if the boss is not dead it's over

[frigid kite]

Hm

Can you show your ops

[tidal sedge]

Mousse helped mitigate some damage but because of the blood blades it's fuck the timing up and a defender gets 2 shots

yeah sure

give me a minute

Do you want the sauads i use or my list ?

squads*

[frigid kite]

Only the squad you are trying to use

• the highest lvl ops you have

[elder flume]

done with suzu and jaye

just ntr and gg for later

only ammo type infinite im gona try is lumen and thats it

[waxen swan]

Lumen deez nut

[latent anvil]

do you need gg or lumen on supp

[elder flume]

prob gg

im not gona do it now tho

[tidal sedge]

those 4 squad are the one i tried cm with the most

[smoky crescent]

This is hard... Bcs ur team is not fully built

Best solution is stall with 2 defenders

Use Matterhorn/cuora and cardigan to stall

Cardigan will have highest chance to survive from the boss atk

[foggy grove]

Dude really neglected all his 6*

[smoky crescent]

4-star enjoyer?

[tidal sedge]

3* enjoyer

but i'm getting filtered by cm every time

[vernal lion]

that's normal

[frigid kite]

I think this can be done

[smoky crescent]

Jesus u really need a good dps to kerri at e2 m3

[frigid kite]

Not with the robots

[tidal sedge]

what do you think i should need then ?

instead of the boys ?

[smoky crescent]

Anyways, now perhaps borrow s3m3 mlynar from support unit

[tidal sedge]

i didn't try mylnar

[smoky crescent]

The rest is just tank boss and blades till mlynar skill up

[tidal sedge]

Hmm should i just wall up and pray that everythong dies then lol

[smoky crescent]

U can use Jaye s2 to help with the healing, utage s2 to dps some blades or boss

[tidal sedge]

alright i'll try

thanks

[smoky crescent]

Pinecone is a good dps unit too

[tidal sedge]

yeah but i'm poor i can't fed her to max rn. That's why i'm asking with what i have in case you lots with bigger brains would have an epithany. I'll try mylnar instead of sutr/chalter/kalsit to see if it's better. Thanks again

[frigid kite]

Bodies to tank the boss

[smoky crescent]

Well... Mlynar can't block if skill is not up... And bring your best healers there

The blood blades hit very hard

[tidal sedge]

Yeah 1000 if i remember right. i don't even know if it's the same on cm. It's like fighting blood knoght cm on cm

[vernal lion]

nl-ex-8 cm is

[smoky crescent]

Hmm... There blood blades deal phy dmg right?

[vernal lion]

yea

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

Only the bosse deals art i think

[smoky crescent]

U can gaming rng with xiaohei S1 if u are too desperated but I will not rcmd this

[vernal lion]

just his dot attack

[smoky crescent]

[tidal sedge]

i just thought about it but if the boss doesn't kill me, mylnar will

[smoky crescent]

Mlynar s3m3 lv90 can 1 cycle boss I guess? If you got stunned frequently use pinecone to help dps

Or utage s2

[mint river]

I have m3 lvl 90 Mlynar if you want to borrow

[tidal sedge]

i have a friend but thanks 🙂

[mint river]

ok

[smoky crescent]

After phase 1, boss will take 40-50s to revive so u can just settle team or tank the blood blades

If blood blades reach him then he will revive any time when his hp bar recover full

[frigid kite]

Damn nice doberman

Why tho

[turbid badge]

whos

[frigid kite]

.

[lethal dragon]

Sheeeeesh

One more doberman simp on the earth 🌍

[turbid badge]

ohh

damm

dobbermann skin on t alter

[tidal sedge]

like i said earlier i'm a 3* enjoyer so obviously i'm gonna max my dobermann 😄

welp i'm not dying but the lack of damage on mylnar's downtime makes it hard guess i'm gonna remove a healer and try with another dps

[frigid kite]

I think i can make a strat

Would you like to see?

[cursive mango]

how long is the event left?

[frigid kite]

Until next reset

[cursive mango]

its like 6 hours right

ohhh

so 16 hours

going to be playing a lot of the XP mission manually over the next week I think

I just about manage to do that mission despite the low levels everyone has

bagpipe support is OP, not seen anything like it

is there a budget bagpipe?

[frigid kite]

He got away on the last pic 💀 but that's the idea, to permastall him over there and kill it with Mlynar

Loading images..

[sonic willow]

instead of that, it's way better to just build base and let your base make LMD and EXP for you

[cursive mango]

also need to farm trust, is that based per mission or per xp?
in that case also, should I focus on upgrading the base first if I can?

[sonic willow]

units get trust when you bring them to stages (1 trust per sanity)
yes, building base is number 1 priority for new player

[cursive mango]

is trust like its own like XP system or is it just literally trust-sanity?

I will review the how to clear building materials stage to see what I require

[sonic willow]

something like that, you can see trust progress (in %) in operator screen

[cursive mango]

I think I checked yesterday, my highest trust is perfumer I think

[vernal lion]

I don't know how much braincell did I put into this, but man it did work perfectly

[tidal sedge]

yeah i tried like walling while mylnar and pinecone deals with the blades. i don't even need rope anymore or to stall on the left but the boss doesn't go down fast enough so he still pass in the long run. maybe i should use haze to give mousse more damage instead of bringing pinecone.

[vernal lion]

"More enemies will appear" = bloodblade spawn

nice lol

[frigid kite]

You can also put 2 people tanking the blades

Or at least just 1 next to mlynar

So the boss doesn't heal that much and then mlynar can cycle him

[tidal sedge]

I see what you mean but doing so will stall even more and it will just ends up in a massive obliteration if i don't kill him before vivianna comes to range.
i will still try your idea

[tawny solar]

how do i do risk 4 cc training grounds today

i can't get past it and it's triggering me

a lot

[sonic willow]

what map and risks

[glass monolith]

THICC clownslayer

Pick 1 hp, -30% def and whichever is easier for you of "enemy 60% hp" or supreme crownslayer. Murder everything

[frigid kite]

Team

[tawny solar]

one sec

[tawny solar]

i picked the enemy 60 hp

[tawny solar]

lemme

chekc

This map

[sonic willow]

should be easy with borrowed chalter

[tawny solar]

thank u

do i just place her at the centre of the action

[tawny solar]

oki

time to get another medic

[sonic willow]

I think it's better to take crownslayer risk instead of that

[tawny solar]

rlly

but she recharges her skill so fast i don't get time to actually do anything

[glass monolith]

Do you have E2?

[tawny solar]

i can borrow her

yeah

[sonic willow]

you don't block her anyway so the skill doesn't matter

[tawny solar]

o

ok

[turbid badge]

o

[cursive mango]

when you are manually famring NL-10 for the sweet loxic with your last sanity and you dont get a loxic

[tawny solar]

L

sorry for ur loss

[cursive mango]

I can do it roughly 3 times tomorrow

I farmed 23 loxics manually over today and yesterday

[tawny solar]

is holliday storm the skill i'm looking for on e2 chalter

holiday

@sonic willow

[worthy ermine]

this stage took 30 tries

but im finally done with story for now

[glass monolith]

You won't like H stages

[worthy ermine]

i cant even find them

[glass monolith]

Switch to real boy difficulty

[worthy ermine]

and i didnt bother with hard mode because i have skill issue

+my team is such a mess

[frigid kite]

Where H9-6

[worthy ermine]

im delaying all hard content untill sexas

[glass monolith]

[sonic willow]

[tawny solar]

bruh

i failed

lemme try again

[hard urchin]

It's damn too eazy

[lethal dragon]

Flex

[lethal dragon]

Level 30 młynar

Disgusting

[frail turtle]

Sorry I was touching grass. Here's my list.

[mint river]

Was R8-8 supposed to be hard?

[tawny solar]

I GOT IT

YEEAH

finally

[hard urchin]

I want to clear it

[tawny solar]

good luck with thta

that

[hard urchin]

Its eazy but ran out of sanity

[shadow shell]

Sn stages, my biggest nightmare

[hard urchin]

🤝

Lappy is the mvp of the event

She's really damn good here

[glass monolith]

Me who coped with Indigo because i don't have Lapp

[frail turtle]

I really like how each operator can be viable even when they're low rarity.

[tawny solar]

how do you

[tawny solar]

how so

[sonic willow]

real mvp was kaltsit

[hard urchin]

||silence||

[shadow shell]

I didnt had kaltsit at that time, mosti s2 saved me

[tawny solar]

indigo silences?

doesn't she only bind

[glass monolith]

If kaltsit was real MVP she would walk into sea and exterminate all seaborn long ago

[hard urchin]

I used ange

[glass monolith]

SN mob has "dodge FUCKING ALOT unless silenced or under effect of control effect"

[tawny solar]

most SN maps are small enough for mlynar to mlynar it

[tawny solar]

i will now proceed to use click

[hard urchin]

Yeah it's fucking disgusting

[hard urchin]

[shadow shell]

using surtr was fun in sn, she attacked so many times

[tawny solar]

what enemies does sn-5 have

other than the flower

and the very weird caster lookin things

[glass monolith]

For how long click stuns? S2 Kroos alter don't even manage to land 2 hits with her mini stuns

[tawny solar]

i don't have blue woman or high school girl

[shadow shell]

oh u said sn5
dont remember stage specific

[tawny solar]

uhh 0.4s

but she attacks a buncha times with her drone

it stuns every time the stun disappeared it'd just restun til skill ends

[glass monolith]

Well they attack at same time, and fun part. SN MOB CAN DODGE HIT WHICH STUNNED

You need to land hit after hit which stunned

[tawny solar]

i

i lose

i surrendewr

surrender

[shadow shell]

just get kal from support unit
or lapp
or corroserum
jaye s1 is hard to find as support unit but it works too

[tawny solar]

ur right

i don't have lapp imma get lappdumb rn

[hard urchin]

Is this stage eazy ?

[tawny solar]

i forgot i gotta get honey

berry

[glass monolith]

Well there is fool prof strategy of just gnosis it

[latent anvil]

yea gnosis permastun

[hard urchin]

She's also a chad

[sonic willow]

easy with kaltsit

[latent anvil]

just dont feed it the thing that makes it resist ice

[glass monolith]

oh and don't feed boss resist

[shadow shell]

I forgot gnosis permastun for that stage. Tried many times to see others telling gnosis permastun

[hard urchin]

I will bring my Schwartz 🤡

And pozëy

🤡

[shadow shell]

do they ignore dodge?
I think fartooth had dodge ignore but if they dont have and u dont have silence then they will bring nothing but pain(For snipers I mean)

[hard urchin]

Yesn't

[latent anvil]

if you arent on cm you can lappland ling it 2 op

[tawny solar]

just realised

they can't dodge mlynar

[hard urchin]

[tawny solar]

there is no way

[turbid badge]

huh

[tawny solar]

the dudes can't dodge mlynar

[turbid badge]

module

[tawny solar]

either that or i'm just super lucky

[turbid badge]

super lucky

xd

[tawny solar]

mlynar s3

are u sure

they didn't like

[turbid badge]

yes

[tawny solar]

bruh

[turbid badge]

its physical damage

[tawny solar]

no way

there is no way

no shot

[shadow shell]

either super lucky or its mlynar's true dmg talent(I heard it applies to his attacks on s3)

[tawny solar]

ahh

naruhodo

but like none of the enemies dodged it's kinda crazy

dorothy's mines were nice for this stage

[shadow shell]

if u are lucky tho, know that u wont be able to auto those stages when sn reruns(probably luck will break ur autos )

[turbid badge]

xd

[tawny solar]

yeah but that particular stage is ez

most of the stages i just brute forced it

aka keep placing down ops until everything dies

[latent anvil]

luck is seeded, every auto is the same

until you factor in level changes, trust changes, mods, dropped frames, etc

[tawny solar]

aha

[shadow shell]

really? I remember some autos breaking because of that tho

[latent anvil]

but the luck is theoretically the same on every stage

[tawny solar]

some of my autos break cus dorothy's mine placement is hahah

[latent anvil]

timings can change from very small things, which cause autos to fail

[tawny solar]

yeah

[turbid badge]

i mean its pretty easy for a auto to break with that much dodge + frame drops that can easily change a factor of a battle

[shadow shell]

ah I see, so no change for ops = no break for auto

[tawny solar]

why does frame drop matter

[glass monolith]

i long deleted video of 80% dodge shit dodging 18 times in row until creep spreads far enough to he unlocks phasing

[tawny solar]

[latent anvil]

theoretically, if ur device plays the exact same way every time

[tawny solar]

most of my old clears are done with 4 stars that i never use so

but rn they're constantly changing

honeyberry is too squishy

dies from like 2 hits

[shadow shell]

I assume u dont have lumen ?

[tawny solar]

no i do not :(

the fish boi is not with me

or jellyfish

i failed that emote

is he a jellyfish

what is he based off of

[hard urchin]

Done

[tawny solar]

wait what jessica

also congrats

[latent anvil]

a blue guppy

"poecilia reticulata"

[shadow shell]

isnt jessica weaker than kroos until e2?

[hard urchin]

Yes

[latent anvil]

[lethal dragon]

Wtf is that

[hard urchin]

But I did it anyway

[cursive mango]

is there any other snipers that are cheap that are useful early game?

[glass monolith]

Jessica is buyer of 99.99% gold bars

[hard urchin]

Kroos

[latent anvil]

stultifera navis

[glass monolith]

Define early game

[cursive mango]

like main story missions around 3-7+

[shadow shell]

kroos can basically solve %90 of ur sniper needs early game

[cursive mango]

I have an exu you see, so I dont have exu+kroos for the dps side I think

[shadow shell]

if u have exu just exu everything
she is one of the best early 6* units if not the best

[cursive mango]

rightio

[latent anvil]

have or dont have exu

[hard urchin]

@cursive mango You have exu

[latent anvil]

have exu mean no more sniper issue

[cursive mango]

theres aoe snipers tho right

[tawny solar]

i don't think the no dodging thing is cus i'm super ultra lucky i think it's just moonar

[shadow shell]

exu will melt everything quick enough that u wont need aoe sniper

[glass monolith]

And then you reach chapter 5 and Frost drone be like:

[shadow shell]

u bait those with gravel

[tidal sedge]

NL-S-2...
Is confusing me

[latent anvil]

he has true dmg which cannot be dodged

[glass monolith]

I mean attack speed down 550 def drones who take 0 damage from Kroos

[hard urchin]

Nls3 is cancer💀

[cursive mango]

I guess thats much more incentive to level and E2 exu in that case

[tidal sedge]

Oof

[tidal sedge]

I need to get thru S-2 first lol

[shadow shell]

oh u mean the air thingy drones...
u need either silence(lapp is really good against them) for them or casters

[cursive mango]

yeah the aoe casters for those

maybe?

[glass monolith]

[hard urchin]

[shadow shell]

which casters u have ?

[turbid badge]

uuh

[hard urchin]

I want to know

[glass monolith]

Single enemy
"Let's AoE caster it"

[cursive mango]

animya, ifrit and lava

[glass monolith]

Shall i even mention that AoE caster cost twice of normal caster?

[hard urchin]

Amiya

[turbid badge]

just use a normal core caster ffs

[cursive mango]

[turbid badge]

there not that bad

[hard urchin]

But not optimal either

[shadow shell]

dont use lava she isnt that good for caster
ifrit sucks against aerial enemies because of funny range(she is really good for ground enemies)
amiya is your best choice, u can use steward if u have him I heard he is also good to invest as caster since he is 3* with kroos-like skill

[tidal sedge]

Eyja be like:
What AoE casters?

[cursive mango]

animya always lacks for damage for me

[hard urchin]

Skill issue

[turbid badge]

last time i actually used ifrit was in IC lol, than i think i tried using her again and s3 actually worked i thoight dorothy boss was flying

[tidal sedge]

[glass monolith]

Arts damage is rarely quick to kill. But when enemy has 2000 DEF who asks you?

[tidal sedge]

Doesn’t mostima cost 25 with module

I hope gets the same, she prob didn’t

[signal flicker]

Does the boss from Nl ex 8 deal art dmg I have NG

[tidal sedge]

Dusk*

[glass monolith]

No... Just 3630 physical in phase 2

[turbid badge]

she has 2 module alrd so

[tidal sedge]

What is it?

[turbid badge]

her 2nd module is pretty good

its the -8 dp one

[signal flicker]

Man

[turbid badge]

and the buff s3 SP

[tidal sedge]

So she cost 25 and gets an SP buff?

Can’t wait to make dusk usable

[turbid badge]

The first attack after deployment will summon 2 'Freeling's (lasts for 25 seconds) at the target's location and the surrounding 4 tiles (only on deployable ground tiles). All 'Freeling's have even higher stats and restore 1 SP for Dusk every 1.5 seconds 'Freeling': HP +400, ATK +25, DEF +25

[signal flicker]

Are the specials harder than ex 8?
If they are I will just save some sanity

[turbid badge]

yea it helps her charge s3 way faster, and

just makes her cheaper to deploy

[tidal sedge]

Which was her main problem, nice

[shadow shell]

if u mean S stages, I think they were harder for me than ex stages

[tidal sedge]

They are

[signal flicker]

Man²

[tidal sedge]

I am so confused by this map

[signal flicker]

They will be replayable.right?

[latent anvil]

just camp blue box

[tidal sedge]

...

[signal flicker]

Only upside on doing Cm now are the yellow rocks

[lethal dragon]

SA here

[glass monolith]

Why not place him ABOVE light so you don't wake the fuck up that one dude?

or facing up

[frigid kite]

Yuu sadistic

[glass monolith]

True sadist was me on original run

[tidal sedge]

Tried that...once Nightmare bro shows up its goes to crap

[gleaming lodge]

why so ?

[frigid kite]

Just surtr him obviously

[gleaming lodge]

are your ops' backside not covered ?

[glass monolith]

Light up issue, light up better

[latent anvil]

just dont let ur things be backstabbed lol

[shadow shell]

if u are trying to do cm, I did by killing bottom one first, light up the top-right part of the map to be able to block the one on top

[glass monolith]

I have "skill" at rotate pipes games so i can cook almost every shaper of light possible

[shadow shell]

cm doesnt give knight's crest(or something like that) so if he is trying cm he has to do it camping enemy spawns.

[tidal sedge]

Not Cm

[shadow shell]

oh then follow what minus shows
its easy when u camp blue box

[glass monolith]

For CM - Use Silver ash or uh... This bullshit

Then return to not CM part

[tidal sedge]

Yeah...i stacked everything i have at the blue box, Nightmare then wrecks my ops in one attack

[glass monolith]

Well pay more attention to light

[tidal sedge]

...

[shadow shell]

if he kills ur ops with melee attack, u need stronger units or better heals

[glass monolith]

It is like anti-personnel mine, step on one and you will never step on another one

[gleaming lodge]

normal attacks ?

or darkness backstab ?

[tidal sedge]

Both kinda? Like...as soon as he shows up by the box, my ops evapaporate
This is the squad ive had some success with.

[shadow shell]

what other ops u have ?

[gleaming lodge]

this is more than good enough

I would use Mudrock S3 but that's personal preferences

just make sure your ops' back are illuminated

[tidal sedge]

👍

[cold bane]

Can I see how someone did 2-9?

[frigid kite]

Sure

[proud drift]

I believe this is the one case I’d suggest you S2

[cold bane]

Super struggling with the two sides and stuff. I think I need lower cost units

[proud drift]

With a mlynar borrow

Though I didn’t follow the entire convo so I dunno if he wants to do guideless or no

When the last wave of enemies comes mudmud will just go

[solid dew]

H9-6 my hated, i can get to the boss just fine, but then she just melts everything phase two, any advice? (ill send my squad in a sec)

[tidal sedge]

Got it

[shadow shell]

marksman sniper on left
vanguards/guards on left top and bottom
marksman sniper on right
vanguards/guards on right top and bottom
casters on right bottom and left top

At least this was what I did 3 years ago seems like

[frigid kite]

@cold bane

[cold bane]

hm ok

yeah so i defs need to level lower cost units then

er vanguards, i dont have any really on my team

[shadow shell]

always have vanguards on your team. No vanguard = dp problems

[cold bane]

yah its been a struggle

i do have siege

but thats it. can probably replace lava, i dont get much use out of her anymore

[shadow shell]

u can use fang, she is pretty tanky early game and gives nice amount of dp and she is 3*
courier is also really good if u got him

[cold bane]

i have beanstalk vigna fang plume vanilla

for vanguards

[shadow shell]

use fang + siege(maybe vigna too) then they will probably do for early game

[cold bane]

beanstalk seems good, at least her skill does

but will do on fang

[shadow shell]

never used her before but she was summoning something afaik, u can use her too

btw I'm not sure how good siege at e0 is. e1 siege is good for early game tho because of s2 tho she is a bit higher investment cost compared to 3,4*s

[cold bane]

oh shes like a ground sniper i think too. hm

[glass monolith]

S1 Siege is glorified Courier which no sane being will Btw i did R18W1 in CC7 with S1 Siege because DP down risk

[tidal sedge]

...
Now i have a new set of problems...
NL-S-3

[zealous cradle]

if you dont have ng it sucks

tldr

[tidal sedge]

NG?

[shadow shell]

well, s2 hits hard thats why I said s2. He is newbie so we are talking about ch2 rn

[zealous cradle]

nightingale

[civic nest]

or u could spam frd

[tidal sedge]

Ohhh

[zealous cradle]

ok but why

[tidal sedge]

Frd?

[latent anvil]

free range ducks

[glass monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829111228286763015/968816016203321364/bait.gif

[tidal sedge]

Ahhh

Poor gravel...

[civic nest]

to bait the first shot so all of them don’t attack at the same time?😂

[shadow shell]

u tricked me for a moment there (my memory sucks I keep forgetting frd)

[latent anvil]

oops

[zealous cradle]

it doesnt cancel if they dont have a target anymore it just acts as a redirect

[civic nest]

yes ik we only need to tank the first shot anyway

[tidal sedge]

Sooo...use gravel to bait candle aoe?

[shadow shell]

u can

[glass monolith]

Why else you think dog was laughing in Duck Hunt? It know duck going to closest american weapon shop

[zealous cradle]

do you?

[civic nest]

yes that’s the stage most of the part

they can only get 1 aoe attack out when they’re behind us iirc

the only wave i think are dangerous is when viviana comes out or when 4 candle dudes come out

[frigid kite]

@cold bane

[tidal sedge]

Gd the candle bros hit hard

[frigid kite]

S3?

Mlynar + Nightingale (or only mlynar) and cheesed

[tidal sedge]

👍

My Mlyar isnt even E1...😭

[frigid kite]

💀

[tidal sedge]

And i dont have Nightingale at all

[civic nest]

https://youtu.be/AZyynB_jqTY

[frigid kite]

Mudrock in the middle

[civic nest]

this is similar to what i mention

spamming frd

[tidal sedge]

Curse if being F2P and managing resources

[tidal sedge]

I dont care about cm

I just need to do the base mission

[civic nest]

it will also works on normal

prob

[tidal sedge]

Ahh

[civic nest]

wats the condition again

for cm

[tidal sedge]

Idk

[civic nest]

oh reduced skill cooldown for candles

[tidal sedge]

Oh that is rude

[civic nest]

then u could bait even later if u want

[cold bane]

oh i can get courier from the credit store

i got beanstalk and kroos leveled, and already notice a huge difference lol. i just had it in my head that 5* always better. but when my 5* archetypes are limited, guess that makes sense i need to use 3 and 4 star too

[frigid kite]

The biggest one is E1 55 Kroos

The destroyer

Of drones

[tidal sedge]

Ye

[cold bane]

i goth er to E124 so far

[tidal sedge]

Ko ko dai yo!

[shadow shell]

funnily, 5* ops are mostly worse than 4star
there are some exceptions but mostly 4stars are better than 5stars because of cost to upgrade + dp difference

[cold bane]

and 4 stars are easier to raise potential right

but i did hear that specter and silence are good

[shadow shell]

u will probably get most of ur 4* ops to max pot from recruitment

[cold bane]

thats why i picked them from the free thignies

[shadow shell]

specter silence lappland warfarin ptilo elysium etc are really good, but most of the other 5* are bad

[cold bane]

should i swap out istina for someone else?

and amiya

[shadow shell]

who do you have ?

[cold bane]

uhh for the like slow supporters are earthspirit and orchid

for caster its just gitano (other than amiya)

and lava

at least based on the like image. idk how the classes work still or the diff archetypes still learning as i go

[shadow shell]

u can use amiya and istiana for arts dmg for now, u can swap them later for better ops when u get

[cold bane]

kk. also just realized gitano is an aoe caster, which are bad(?) right

[shadow shell]

gitano can be good for early for aoe arts dmg

[frigid kite]

AoE become bad after early game

[shadow shell]

normally yes because of high dp cost but early stages can be a bit painful when enemies have some def and many of them are around

[frigid kite]

AoE Caster i mean

That's why #help don't recommend leveling those

[cold bane]

mk. she just costs 29 DP so it seems like itd be hard to ever actually use her

[frigid kite]

Except maybe Dusk

And Ifrit, she's pretty good

[shadow shell]

u will need to use your vanguards effectively to deploy them easily

[tidal sedge]

I can get to about 45 kills before my medics get blasted to oblivion

[frigid kite]

Put them correctly

Their área is a diamond

[tidal sedge]

Ok

Currently trying three.
Perfurmer, Gavial, Breeze

[turbid badge]

U can see

the red outline

[tidal sedge]

👍

[shadow shell]

is it cm ?

[tidal sedge]

No

Im not worried about the cm

Just trying to clear it before the event ends in 10 hours

[shadow shell]

u can try to borrow phantom(idk if phantom kills, I got myself skadi because I have gladiia+spalter/or a fast redeploy unit that can kill candle enemies) and kill them on left side. I dont think its ideal tactic but I did it like that

1-2 candle knights dont do much but when 4 of them stacks and u cant bait them, they will wipe ur ops

[tidal sedge]

I have an e1 Phantom

[shadow shell]

u can try to use it, idk if dmg will be enough but if it is, it will help u a lot since they will be dead before reaching right side

[tidal sedge]

👍

Level 20 E1

[frigid kite]

He's just bait

It isnt like he's going in a murder rage agaisnt them

[shadow shell]

yeah tried myself phantom only kills candle knights(not vivian, other ones) at e2lv69(s2 sl7) barely. He doesnt do too well.

[frigid kite]

Useless mf

[shadow shell]

it would be really easy to do only if we had texalter and kirito now

[tidal sedge]

Most ive gotten to is 40-45 kills

Once my medics get blown up its over

[frigid kite]

[tidal sedge]

Also top lane gets overrun very quickly

[tidal sedge]

-1

[frigid kite]

💀

I see you are clearing content now

What's the next

[tidal sedge]

yep yep LOL

i run it again

[frigid kite]

After anni 3

[turbid badge]

WHAT

[tidal sedge]

wdym?

[turbid badge]

why not quit

[tidal sedge]

seeing the whole thing i forgot

[frigid kite]

This is Annihilation 3

[tidal sedge]

the -1 was at like 250

oh

anni 3 is the first im running rn

it was a drone that got passed

[turbid badge]

yeahh i assumed that

[tidal sedge]

didnt know i needed this much snipers

[turbid badge]

u can just use another marksmen

[tidal sedge]

does archetto have an afk skill? might borrow one

[turbid badge]

ye

s1

[tidal sedge]

Im 3 off of a full clear on that one

[turbid badge]

or ash s1

but there really uncommon to find

u might as well borrow Uhh plat s2

[tidal sedge]

ok so Thorns cover mid drone, Exu top drones and archetto bot drones, thoughts?

[turbid badge]

just place her on that tile near NG/Irene

[tidal sedge]

thinking of putting thorns bot nest to skadi too

next*

[turbid badge]

sure that can work

[tidal sedge]

recall saga when i have enough dp then put exu somewhere

[frigid kite]

You win

Go

[tidal sedge]

[turbid badge]

ur laneholders should be fine

Go

[tidal sedge]

instead of borrow archetto

can fia reach the drones

before they start moving forward

doubt

actually maybe...

i have an idea

wait nvm she wont be able to reach top most drone

[scarlet fulcrum]

Who were u borrowing in that pic btw

[tidal sedge]

no one

[turbid badge]

are u just clearing for rewards

[tidal sedge]

ye

[scarlet fulcrum]

U dont need that many dps up there if u placed horn in mid, this is free squad tbh

[tidal sedge]

think so?

i can try

would you use S1M0 or S3M3

on horn

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah i optimized my setup with horn s3

1 tile behind saga

[tidal sedge]

hmm

prob is how to keep my top sniper alive

i wanna do all the annis so i can buy ifrit

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also fia S3 can reach most stuff from bottom <

[turbid badge]

idk

I feel like fia s3 is risky

[tidal sedge]

yea she's gonna hold the bottom 100%

[latent anvil]

Thorn bottom fia top make stage a joke

[turbid badge]

but maybe

[tidal sedge]

im just thinking whos gonna stay top

[latent anvil]

Have thorn?

[tidal sedge]

yea

[turbid badge]

they have thorn and mlynar

[latent anvil]

This

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its not risky they have thorns

[latent anvil]

Thorn hold bottom 3 lane fia top

[tidal sedge]

who holds mid snipers then or do they not path towards mid? i wasnt really watching

[latent anvil]

Thorn holds bot mid fia holds top mid

[tidal sedge]

drones* not snipers

of you mean she's pointing down?

[turbid badge]

u also have mlynar if anything comes

since he can hit air to

[tidal sedge]

oh*

[frigid kite]

I thought you would've cleared already

[tidal sedge]

[latent anvil]

Yea it really shouldn't be that complicated tbh... Just bring a medic for fia and ur fine

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats it

[tidal sedge]

dont think its enough NG died around 330 first run to the balistas

[latent anvil]

How does NG even die

[tidal sedge]

dunno, she did

[latent anvil]

Deploy ranged ops first and then melee

So that arts drones don't shoot ur ranged

[tidal sedge]

the balistas are the unmoving things on the right side

[latent anvil]

Ur ng

Does not die to solely ballistas

That I find impossible

[tidal sedge]

hmm lemme try it again

maybe some aoe caster dinked her or something

[latent anvil]

I didn't know that stage had any kind of casters

[tidal sedge]

quite a number of em

[latent anvil]

But fia top should kill all... Surely...?

[scarlet fulcrum]

aggro issue most likely

[latent anvil]

Deploy melee ops last that should be all it takes