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You know what fuck this im doing it one more time and if it dosent work, fuck this shit Im giving up
Dont place anyone here
Bro
You know im not gonna ask since I wasted my time
Im doing this on my own until I cant handle it anymore
Good luck on that

Yea but im losing faith doing advert environment
Took me 3 hours and still failed
Relax
Im not relaxed
These ops right?
Yes
Ok
Removed Bag, used Mud S3 @violet hinge
this would probably be easier if you borrowed a Kal stronger than E2 60
Nvm
Your still using other 6 stars
Still useless
All 6*s you own/can borrow

I can't feasibly compromise any further
Cantabile can be any vg
Kaze can be any cheap blocker/dps
borrow Kal
HOLY SHIT AFTER 3 HOURS FINALLY 😭
imo the only stages harder than 10-11 were 10-16 and 10-17
well that was before I had my own Mud
Gg
Trying to do 10-17 hard with only horn and skadi

Skadi s2m3 actually enough to kill a shield down manfred in time with shamare doll
are you like
some sort of masochist
at a level not even I can achieve
Oh I should clarify that those are only for my 6 star picks
Still go in with a full team
The moment I saw the map, I needed help, Im using team one
Right side is just car
Wait i meant left
Mudrock with a bit of help should be enough
Place muddy on left side?
Foe right you can do gavialt or a simpler strat is double healing + hp tank
What support do I use?
The main problem with the stage is just necrosis from chain caster, car and drone
Which mean a lot of cannon shot
Try to get kaltsit then
Ok and place on right?
I used Kal to solo left side in my clear
Also just a question but
Do flying enemies have the possibility of entering the blue box?
I don't think so
Drones mostly die before arriving, i haven't seen one stage where they dont
They are coded to never enter blue box
Alright good
Even in CC10
Bruh
how the hell did I make this work
kekw
Kazemaru good
Literally carried me through the entirety of adverse stages
10-16, need help. Things were doing great until a touch of benelovence somehow killed 3 of my operators (they were at low health btw) which were mudrock,gavial alter and cantabile 💀
Wanna know if gladiia skill can yeet them while being a laneholder
I forgot what I did here
I think I abused Ifrit + Horn
which golem
Ic
Need help in 10-16 adv environment
would gladiia be able to kill them I wonder
yes and no
Maybe I try tequila
Yes I'm skill
no
Damnit
you only face them on H
the red one that is
normal one has 550 def
red has 750
which make a big difference
Then it's fine
I just going to do normal story
Next question is, gladiia s2 could handle them or nah

should be
Where's that 12-14 pic
each attack does ~1.2k
Let me get it brb
well i can check it right now if you want
but
what you want to do is letting gladiia do normal attack
for phase 1
since you can still block them

and like why every guide use chalter
Damnit
I cannot place them near ya know
Other tiles
Because the flame dudes gonna attack her
If you have pic rn it'll be cool
Brb
damn I wrote it wrong
which operators should i use to stall manfred so the 4000dmg nuke will punch his face
mon3tr is the only one can do that really
nian technically has 4k+ but you cant keep her up after getting hit by cannon
so you helidrop mon3tr right before the nuke launches?
you can do that yes
How much total true dmg guardmiya s2 do without any killcount?
Can Guardmiya S2 dodge the chap 10 cannon while doing the arts slashes?
Chen S3 can, so I think guardmiya can too
Aight got it
true dmg is the only last hit and it's a double-hit which deals 160% x 2 from s2m0 and 220% x 2 from s2m3
Her autos are converted to true damage after the skill ends, I assume they want to count that
Attacks deal True damage for the remainder of the skill duration
I don't think it counts after skill duration ends
Yes the skill lasts like 30 seconds
And the whole 30 seconds her autos deal true damage
the calculation is a bit complicated
I need help beating 10-16, here is the team I was using
through the first time, she will seek for the first enemy and slash them base on the number of slash
if they die before out of number of slash, or no more enemy inside her range
She retargets
she will end the slash part
If no more enemies then she ends
I did 10-16 by spawn killing cars and then suffering with chain casters being bitches
But if there are still enemies she retargets onto a new one
Hard mode?
I assume they're not talking about that though
Yes
I tried 4 guides and all failed, I cant accurately follow them
Remove kroos and click, they are irrelevant here
s2m0 is 31 seconds, s2m3 is 35 seconds
You're overcomplicating, I don't think they're worrying about ending slashes early and then another enemy running in fast enough for her to continuously attack
How do I kill the cars?
Also they specifically said no kills
I mean, about the math, it is
does amiya S2 retarget if enemy moves out of her range

Either you bring the big guns, or you focus on killing the revborns instead
as long as she seeks for the next one, it will
By bombing them
Do you have any aoe dmg dealer?
Lemme uhh check
I mean like vs locking on and following them out of her range
Here
as always, unless it goes back to invis or invin mode
Yeah just rechecked it does follow enemies even if they leave the range instead of retargeting
But all of this misses the original question I think
@violet hinge space out left side defense for the casters and use right side defense to bomb the mobs
Borrow surtr to kill those blade enemies
Dont bring elemental medics since the reborns end up doing too much necrosis damage
Tell me the operators I have to bring?
Im not really good at giving specifics
But just make sure you are able to do what I said
So bring alot of casters?
Like aoe snipers
Or spreadshooters
Which one?
E1 Pinecone is better than any other sniper before the other sniper got E2
thanks for her piecing dmg from s1

Fuck me, almost got it
Need help can't clear ops just die to the ranged mofos
Good map, i just La Pluma spawnkilled entire top left and then cannoned final 9 or so tall slimes 
2 best defenders you have + medics for them
Ranged mobs have so high attack speed they won't move while attacking
Mudrock can't be healed 
Best healable defender
I used Cardigan in annihilation 10 because i didn't had anything better, no shame into throwing low rarity at issue if it works
What was the stage number again? 
65
Borrow Saria or Hoshi
Man i have absolutely 0 idea how i passed that stage back when doing it myself, ranged enemies are trash and Beagle Cuora without issue hold normal ones and duirng skills can hold red ones. BUT THOSE RED MELEE FUCKERS ON BOT 
that stage wasn't an issue for me at all
kyo layout

It is some hardcore Kaltsit copium
i was doing it last night
holy the sweat
did the first part after 2 hours
but i guess the rest shouldn't be hard as i perfected all the minuscule steps 
that's what my strat is rn lol
hopefully can push r25, 26 doesnt seem doable for me
i didn't touch cc9
i used to bring horn, exu and gg but anyways, pls have strong medic. u can borrow 1 of those 3 is enough
i fucking hate those enemies
poz trivializes that stage
Is pto op enough healer for u
no wonder they released her after 
i think ash works fine
not sure since those lancers target 1 op only not all op in ur team
so prefer ST medic
elite melee 
this is the team that i used mate 
my ranged dps died cauz i didn't know that the fkers can kill them
so i relied on the ground ones
uhh guys


Well that goes to my collection of cursed shit i seen 
no swimsuit skyfire
? least horny AK player
Oh ya I cleared it barely
joke on you, all of Surtr went for that boss
I was killing Manfred phase 1 in CC so fast than i was triggering that phase 2 wave delay (Like shit ones can do on patriot, DV etc) without being aware 
Im level 101 and never got to this level nani
Is it one of those trade ur life for to save waifu then ahh u fell for it dummy
Nani
but just ending4
ya but did you kill them within the last like 2 months
should've unlocked two items
a ball chain and a perfume bottle
dont you need 3rd ending too?
no you don't need 3rd
it is ye
that and the chain
and you already had the chain before
so you've seen the prsion encounter
Yea i seen it
I hate that stage
Cuz most of the time i got no one strong enough to actually do it
L is L soo np
Why Lava paradox is Yato paradox all along? 
sounds like a paradox
"Just a few little bugs"
Ah yes, until they explode...
can someone help me with 3-8 ??
ty gimme a sec
here lemme know if i have to change anything or something been trying 3-8 since morning 

yea
do u have other units leveled

who else do you have
idk who that is
wait a bit
ok
so you know the +def tiles on the stage right?
dont trust them
the boss can shred thtu your ops no matter where you put them
my advice is
yea i learned that the hard way 💀
the boss will circle around the map once

i know it work because i just used it for my kr alt recently
dont put your ops in its way
i been trying to do something similar to this but my silver ash and lappland just dies without 2 medic so i need lot of dp by then skullshatter will be gone killing everyone 
if you get him under half hp he will gain atk
she attacks the last deployed op right i been trying to counter it by deploying a defender at the end but by then she just kills my snipers or caster 
you will need a lot more AA if you want to win
yea
but thats it
whats aa ?? 
alright gang so the plan is simple
💀 i have seen it once for a second lol
let him cycle through the map
after that you should have enough time and dp to set up a defence (attack) line just for the bos
any rec who i should use ?
if you try to deal with it early on you will be unprepeared
take your time to deploy everyone you need
also at the end most enemies would be dead already
thats the problem skullshatter just comes and kills everyone before i can set up everything
ok ok
just
sniper x2
defender block
then pluma
then medic bait
then defender bait
only SS melee hurt
the range is easily healable if you dont let it splash
i see
new plan
put your sniper or healer of your choice at the very corners (def tiles)

ill give it a try
can i do it with what i have or should lv up what you are using ?
put your blocker/guard right in front of projection objectives
cause im out of materials as well lol 
do not try to exactly copy anything
a blocker will work
@floral sundial ok dude
just
its literally no brain set up
altho i would suggest you e1 55 kroos cuz shes strong anyway
especially in chapter 5 which is a drone heavy stage

new new plan

get the beefiest defender you can find on the support unit tab
what?
were gonna block this mf

Lol
Block her with Surtr S3
EVEN BETTER
What are you willing to use?
how hard can it be
bruh dude i tried to give tips what is the point of playing a strategy game if you end up copying the entire deployment order 😦
even a random e1 pluma work
Above plan seems good
ill try that too
im not rly copying the entire thing
wait still using medic bait
idm borrowing ill just find it without borrowing after sometime
also thanks a lot to both of you 
yeah for me i had to let ss take a lap first in order to kill
wanted to kill it from the first round using mountain but it was almost possible
same strat but even weaker units now
just to show you how doable it is
also lancet has less stat than lv1 3* medic btw
E1 55 kroos pog
afk strat my beloved
On all the new accounts I made I make an effort to max kroos asap
She does so much for so little
do you max fang steward as well
Need dp still
looking at this will make u so sad 
I might do noir + fang though
do you even touch beagle
Also lancet my beloved
whys that ?
Cardi + Beagle for me
i wish i could put a space there
horn is so strong
what do you like
use for sk5
cuz im kinda suffer
most of ur characters are untouched whether for maps or for base 
its cause i dont use them
You are using those to upgrade the characters you use
They give you more material via basw
But level things you use first
Horn s2 and lava
Halfway switch into kroos for loggers
Right side is purestream for range and shaw push
Ah sheesh
I will have to raise beagle then
Spot + Shaw do right side 
As expected
He makes up for his lower defensive stats with dodge rng and healing
Im missing so many base slave
Which isn't great when you're already dealing with shaw rng
So now you're malding spot and shaw rng at the same time
Sound fun
💀 i tried borrowing plume omg it feels so much easier
i did defeat skullshatter gotta get rid of the drones now i would have been able to do that but skullshatter just killed my snipers and all
yea
got it
Medic bait then defender bait
Thats it
Also shu
Are you planning to do highmore
I did it thanks a lot 
I would suggest building core unit and base slave next
who
Sorry I have no clue what those units are
I been just levelling based on character designs
Base slave is a character you want to increase trust ? I thought trust was like friendship in genshin at first didn’t know it increase stats 
No
Base slaves are characters who you raise to a specific level for maximum base gains
oh
Base slave is a character you put in trading post, factory, etc. and they give a boost
3 and 4 stars need E1 for the base skill upgrade and they may be worth it (example purestream)
5 and 6 stars need E2 and it's usually not worth it
got it thanks for the explanation 
Granted I didn’t optimize my gains at all either
But this is daily income
25-30 pink XP and 40k lmd every day
And this is me being lazy

So focus on getting your base up
whos the character in the middle his face looks so derpy 
Archetto
Uh
Look up /base in #bot-spam
Idk base slavery sheet
But there’s a bunch of guides for it 
Archetto and Jaye are kinda exclusive to what they do
it is better to move base discussion to its rightful place #r-i-i-c

ah sorry
will check some out, i was just assigning randomly till now didnt know it made a difference
I’m only on chapter 4 it’s gonna take ages to get there 
You can do chapter 9 immediately after 3 iirc
I can barely do 3 I don’t even wanna think about 9 lol
But since you’re new you’ll get showered in sanity
Reading was taking a lot of time so I kinda paused it for now and started skipping will go back and read the story when I’m bored
Meanwhile I’m spending 42 sanity per stage so I can also do challenge mode at the same time 
But then again

H11-1 is bitch
That I should be able to clear it

I mean it really just saves time
Instead of doing normal and CM separately
Double sanity double rewards
Oh
Didn’t play then 
Wonder if I’ll manage to complete all stages by tonight
Probably the most calm night shift I’ll ever have
idk kroos finished it
damn deploying saileach actually made this possible since her stun let blemi charge sp to use s2 or she woulda died
if i didnt deploy her woulda had to do stage again💀
Kazemaru carries 10-11 adv
you mean she somehow handles two wrathgorgers by herself 
not by herself, but being a dollkeeper means constant dps
So chain caster won't BEGONE THOT her doll?
huh
except for the last wave
oh
had to drop Irene to help
is there someway to get below 5 ops without using summoners 
For 10-11 adv?
yeah
that's still 5
ah i used kal and ling 
No i mean, Pozy or Schwarz
but ling is summon
I used myrtle horn mudrock mountain ebenholz
5 ops for what
10-11 adv
I couldn't get Mudrock to survive against chain casters
then again, mine is E2 60 s2m1 with not max trust
Kalsit considered summoner too in this case?
oh no wonder
you were using S2 lol
she absolutely needs S3 to survive there
you have to do cannon trick
The cannon trick has a 2 frame window. You can also do it by retreating the unit as well, it doesn't have to be Mudrock S3.
I trimmed bagpipe out
but how to do 4 ops

I just realized Spectral has the hp to survive cannon without needing to pop skill. Hmm.
texalter when
just checked and there's multiple 3 ops without any cn only stuff in them
should I borrow a spalter then?

Oh the whole 50 messages wws still about 10-11
what where
show
on arkrec
borrow Kaze 
also ling solo but 🤢
spalter is just better kaze
I bring gladiia to give her regen too
I see you need to do mudrock s3 memes tho

Cc has trained me for this
they all use kal 
dswoopey dalao
or texas alter
wow

Borrow Kaze 
i would put spalter but shes lvl 1, and im also kazeless
Wish I had the mats to max her 
i max her on cn but didnt get her on en
so yep
very sad
i hate pulling for 5★

oh I didn't know you wanted no kal
I did a 6 op 5* only on release and then then next day someone in jp did 5 op
very sad
you're just trying for 4 op rn?
yeah


ntrk casually facing the wrong way
Nobody see it anyway because everyone blinded by radiant light 
Huh @cyan gorge how does kaze lappdumb solve top 
I’m just gonna borrow ntr for this
Fuck kaze borrow
10-11 adv
sounds like skill issue
hi zen
yo
I held top just fine with Lapp + Kaze and Ptil heals 
i just god top with mizuki
and all caster dps on bottom
with defender
if i have surtr
cycling much better
cause she is dumb unit
that setup doe
Ya I’m still experimenting
me when 48 dp
And learning the waves
dswoopey
It’s only 1 sanity lol
focus bottom

to delete waves
s2 much better
Ya I will drop cheeto facing top too
@proud drift
So even more sp
mudrock can handle almost all of the bottom
she just needs help in the first wave to not die
and also the last wave with wrathgorgers
Is2 , but it's done
Doing landen
My chetto won’t get 90 any time soon
When I need Cheeto , no one has it
Breh
u know i have m9 90 chetto


Also I got pretty high score
poggu
1.3k kek
ok banned

Hit 3 also
Probly more aspd increase

see
Skalter S3 between mudrock and Fia
just get used to map
Was kinda clutch
Also Irene made it easier than NTR
im stuck at chp7
Heidi get 
Oh yea there were uh
Like 8 reborns alive
Hatedrinker walks up to irene

-90% hp
There’s still 6 more nodes
Before H
One of them being a man 
Thank god there’s no shit like chain casters or the sp elemental damage at all
did u like chain caster damage?
You mean the small damage that sl7 honeyberry can heal thru?

I brought Shamare to 10-16 purely to fucking reduce chain casters ATK 
10-16 I had to borrow a maxed Kal cause my own couldn't handle bottom lane solo
Why not ng
Ik , but where cage

Time to do the funny Lee strat for 10-12, thanks random youtube recommendation from half a year ago 
i need to build Hibi and Lava alters to be ready for alter task thingy going away in future 
Why? You spend more than you get back, no?
well it is better to get something back than nothing at all
i go for e2 everything eventually anyway
Probably start with that next time 
CN removed alternate operator tasks in December. I still have 2 not collected. Over
best stage
getting back something is better than getting back nothing
I deploy yato in the distance
Why the fuck does lee keep the cannon target
Doesn’t lee have enough shift to push slugs back
Minus alt ?
April
you think I have enough free time to play alts
Yes
wrong

even been copying r8 dailies and challenges this time
use chad noir
IS IT SERIOUSLY BLOCK>TAUNT>DEPLOY
lee has negative taunt tho
Fuck i hate -1 taunt being more likely and 1 being less likely 
Wdym negative
Lee has to block one thing for his push to work
and special targeting rules in general override any amount of hate you can generate otherwise
he has a +1 block enemy
Lee has in his skill that he makes everyone focus him
YES BUT
YATO IS ALSO 2 BLOCK
AND SHE WAS DEPLOYED LATER

he pushes literaly anything that he AINT ATTACKING
kek
lee+1 = block 2
lee deployed later
Cannon has special prio
No lee was deployed before
ah
you misgendered yato
Is discord dying or what
huh? so cannon targetted lee?
Ye cannon hit lee
you wrote he first
This is only reasonable logic if you're already set on raising them regardless of the rebate
Yes and I corrected
But it's not good logic to raise them by itself
Unless Lee has SFX update it is fucking cannon target on his ass
arent we all aiming to catch them all?
I do agree tho
Catch != Raise
YE BUT I DEPLOYED YATO AFTER LEE
Well fuck you then should have brought block 3 or kafka to sleep whoever Lee blocks
i mean the change in the cannon isnt instant lemme just try myself lul
3 hp seal in hard mode honestly quite triggering
Still, 1 life lost = lose stage









