r-i-i-c

[orchid bane]

[astral tiger]

Need some help, this is my current setup. Once Snegurochka drops, I've been thinking of running 2 lvl 3 gold (bryo and automation team) and rest for exp.
Wouldn't it be better if I switch to 243 after sneg? Then I can run vermeil exp team and 35% workers. Mainly need to know if I'm missing something here, cuz 243 seems better for this case as it will also boost automation by 15%

[astral tiger]

Might have a problem with proviso eating up more gold bars

[astral tiger]

for this one proviso prod is 159

[astral tiger]

nvm, only counted the eff% for fac

somehow forgot the 100% prod from a fac itself

guess that's what I was missing

[vestal sable]

yea i was gonna say

[astral tiger]

rookie mistake

[vestal sable]

there aren't enough good factory teams to make 243 better ever

[astral tiger]

yeah

gotta fix my stupid sheet now

gonna include all innate multipliers and downtime % to not screw myself over

except for sakiko's gold boost, things aren't synced enough to include that

actually no, I'll just put it separately, instead of trying to add it on a team itself

that works

[brisk dust]

Would you guys suggest E2 Shamare just for base?

[orchid bane]

Sure. If you are new to the game. Her debuff could help here and there

[pale yoke]

@wind otter did you dump all your 3 day sanity pot in this event ?

im wondering if i should

[wind otter]

Arknights or Endfield?

[orchid bane]

Think you should ?

Unless you have like 400 gel, 270 sol

And I have a feeling, ep 16 is far away

[pale yoke]

next event no farming right?

yea ill dump it

[rigid plume]

Yes. Special Mechanic event with no Sanity waste.

[pale yoke]

sanity waste?

[rigid plume]

The dumping on farming stages.

[scenic gate]

i'm sorry for the quality but how do i calculate this? is it 100% + (my best efficiency bonuses that i haven't used yet)?

and then times 100 without the percent mark?

this is the stage + riic planner from the pins

[scenic gate]

just how many ops does it want to elite 1

that or i indeed calculated the values wrong

or the thing is broken ¯_(ツ)_/¯

back to excel we go

[vestal sable]

shamare is a good unit for IS and some other stuff as well so i would

[dense crypt]

Is there any sites to auto make optimal base rotation? Or just show the best combos and stuff.

I'm running a 2 rotation 423 base, and the ops is kinda just I put in whatever I think is best, but I'm not that good at combos

I can also share my rotation/roasters but idk how to do it without flooding chat

[vestal sable]

u can share ur krooster and since ur on 243 i assume all of ur rooms are maxed?

[oak wedge]

Sending all screenshots in the same message prevents a image flood

[vestal sable]

i can look at the stuff and give u the rotations to use based on what u have

there's no site that does it automatically but there is a base sheet with the optimal teams/combos/workers listed there

[oak wedge]

When is she a good pick in is?

[dense crypt]

That will be great then thx. I'm on cn but my base ops are really old and pretty much all global ops

I'll screenshot now

[vestal sable]

is there a CN equivalent to krooster.com

website where u can share ur operators and it shows what promotion level they're at etc

would be more convenient than a bunch of screenshots but idk if a tool exists

https://www.krooster.com/u/flygon727 for reference this is mine

[dense crypt]

First 4 is secondary rotation (low income). Next 4 is primary rotation (high income)

These are my E2 ops. Anyone else you can just assume they are E1

[hasty tiger]

Doing prov so dirty calling her a low income team

[vestal sable]

IS5 sniper medic for one, her doll drops atk and def by 50%, she's also drafted on def supporter cuz u have a bunch of supporter tickets and she's the best 5* to grab from the bunch

IS3 she's used for the acid tank strat for ed4, she's the only one u can't replace for that strat

[vestal sable]

yea but i also need to know what u have xD

er lemme check give me a min

[dense crypt]

I would have all 5 stars and 4 stars, for the 6 stars, I thought it was usually not recommended to E2 ops for base, but I can send my unraised six star if that helps

[vestal sable]

yea but some units have good base skills at e0 as well so send the unraised 6*

ill just assume u have every 5* and the ones not shown here are e0/e1 yea?

[dense crypt]

These are the unraised six stars. I do have all the 5 stars yea, and if anyone aren't E1 I'll just raise them to e1

[vestal sable]

nah 5* gain their 2nd base skill at e2 like 6* so it isn't worth raising those either, 4* get theirs at e1 so those are worth raising, ill just mention the ones that need e1 when i list 4*

[dense crypt]

Ohh I see, sure!

[agile atlas]

Hey guys what should i do? My base power is near cap and i need to upgrade 1 more room to unlock base lv 5

[hasty tiger]

Downgrade your dorms

[agile atlas]

alr

[agile atlas]

umm still it needed 10 room to lv 5 base tho?

if i downgrade the dorm it still gonna need 1 more

[hasty tiger]

Can you make it two levels 3 dorms temporary?

[agile atlas]

maybe yes

[hasty tiger]

If you're doing 2/5/2 you'll end up with level 1 dorms at the end of the process but you're right with max right side you have 9 level 3 total

[agile atlas]

wait so i can't level 5 base?

[hasty tiger]

#r-i-i-c message

After you hit level 5 cc you don't have to keep the requirements

The other option is... Temporarily take your factories to level 1 for power to make another lvl3?

[jovial flame]

What's the problem with replacing just one factory with energy?

[agile atlas]

i just don't wanna make my factory 243 but ig i got a way to do it now

[hasty tiger]

That is also a possibility for a temporary solution

Just to hit lvl5 cc and revert

[vestal sable]

What's the requirement for lv 5 cc again

[hasty tiger]

Idk the standard choice since I haven't seen someone max right early on for a while

10 lvl3

But max right only has 9 total

[vestal sable]

Ayt lemme get to work

[vestal sable]

go down to 2 level 1 dorms

u can unbuild dorms right

or ig

[agile atlas]

i mean just do 243 then level 5 base then revert XD

[vestal sable]

this works as well

u can do 3 3 2 for dorm levels

with ur current set up

[agile atlas]

ooo i keep dat in mind but i'm just doin quest so yea

[vestal sable]

@agile atlas this is 252 with 10 level 3 buildings and then u just downgrade dorm after u get lv 5 cc and upgrade other stuff

[agile atlas]

alr

[vestal sable]

u can downgrade either a tp or a factory for the extra power do the thing i've shown

[agile atlas]

just factory cuz all my tp are maxed i don't wanna wait for drones lmao

[vestal sable]

i mean its the same either way, u have to downgrade one factory or one trading post for now and upgrade them later when u can

[agile atlas]

yep

[vestal sable]

u might prefer downgrading a TP especially if u have proviso

[agile atlas]

sadly idh proviso so yea XD

[vestal sable]

cuz its optimal for overall productivity to keep proviso's TP at lv 2 in a 252

ah

she's on the orienteering banner fwiw

if u plan to pull on that

[agile atlas]

maybe yes cuz i just started and needed some operator

[round lichen]

If you’re not overly attached to your account, you may want to just start over and not waste power on right side

If you’re so new that you weren’t able to pick Proviso from the selector, I’d guess you don’t have Hoshi2. Did you get Sakiko?

[pallid isle]

it depends on how long you plan to play. the game is built around long term mangement so ditching something new for a better long term base is the way i look at it as well

[vernal moss]

160 hrs with mlynar cc team

Mlynar literally gets tired before they do lmao

[limpid frost]

stonks
is it worth downgrading a trading post for a factory upgrade while she’s still at e0?

[strong summit]

Is Proviso worth the e2 for that +1 gold?

[hasty tiger]

She's the only op with less than a year return on investment

If anybody is worth any investment for base it's her

[strong summit]

In roi we trust
Just need to check who are the ideal partners for her

[valid storm]

yes

[strong summit]

With proviso should I go with 3 gold and 2 exp? Not sure how fast she can burn gold

[vital oriole]

4 gold, 1 xp, prov poxy tuye + kirara

[arctic prism]

this is bad advice to give just raw without context

[vital oriole]

But the numbers! Tbh though lol

[arctic prism]

generally most people run this yeah
even with 3 gold factories, if you try droning your proviso tp you might find yourself draining gold somewhat slowly, but running 4 gold usually generates too much gold + completely chokes your exp prod
you kinda have to find your own balance that works for you- usually it's just some combination of 3gold 2exp + some amount of drones spent on tp or exp

[vestal sable]

only op worth e2 for the base, do it asap

faster u do the faster u get money

[vestal sable]

yes u should, did u get anyone else in the banner? i can update the thing i gave u earlier if you'd like

[vestal sable]

yes

[round lichen]

At E0 the multiplier increase is lower, only 1.2758 to 1.4. Still, if you assume Quartz and a 30% are her partners and an Amiya-like CC skill,
1.4(100 + 2 + 7 + 34) - 110 =90.2%
1.2758(100 + 3 + 7 + 64) - 110 =112%
112 - 90.2 =21.8% difference
So the extra Fac slot will probably give more productivity

[strong summit]

Oh I would love that
Those are the new units I got this banner. Also bought Quartz and got Bison, Bryo and Astgenne from side stories.
https://www.krooster.com/u/radio

[vestal sable]

ayt ill take a look in a bit

to make it easier to find, this is what i gave u last time yes?

[vestal sable]

also since u have proviso, we'll be downgrading one of the TPs that she's gonna go in and upgrade a factory instead, just a heads up

[strong summit]

On it

[vestal sable]

Trading Post 1
Jaye Lappland Texas
catapult Midnight Gummy

Trading Post 2 (Level 2
Proviso Quartz (E1)
Yato Mousse

will leave this here first since its shorter

[vestal sable]

also relevant workers ur missing from lower rarity, purestream > haze is priority from tags so keep an eye out for that, conviction will be free in a month from april fools, purestream and conviction will need e1, the other 2 are fine at e0

[wind otter]

tfw waking up to extended maint

[arctic prism]

wtf this event so complicated whats going on

[wind otter]

dude, I haven't even touched it yet

I literally just started reading this post rn:

https://x.com/ArknightsEN/status/2029753852350582995

Arknights_EN (@ArknightsEN)

Dear Doctor, the new event: Rebuilding Mandate will be available soon. Here is a brief introduction about the new enemies and the new mechanisms. Hope this can help you in challenging the stages of Rebuilding Mandate.

#Arknights #Yostar

X · Mar 6, 2026, 3:00 AM

[arctic prism]

i just opened it bc i assumed there were gonna be stages to farm and got locked into a mega long tutorial

[wind otter]

oh, you're being held hostage

don't worry, we survived Valley 4 tutorials, can't be that bad

[arctic prism]

tru

this has bothered me for years now but

can they please make it so that

you can tap once to see the full text in the tutorial

instead of just skipping to the next dialogue

this is literally the only reason why i skip so many tutorials in this game

text is so slow

[wind otter]

You've always been able to do it, but there is certain dialgue that immediately skips, so tapping is like playing with fire. It used to be that the text that was displayed at the top of the screen could be tapped to speed it up and the one at the center bottom would immediately skip, but then they flipped it up some years back and after skipping something I wanted to read I'm just afraid of tapping altogether.

[arctic prism]

oh I thought it was always just diff types of text boxes

the ones that are shown like a dialogue bubble with a characters face next to it you're never allowed to tap

the other type you can tap

[wind otter]

at this point it just feels like there is no safe rule

[arctic prism]

[wind otter]

tap at your own peril

[arctic prism]

yea lol

[wind otter]

[strong summit]

Uhum, uhum, duly noted
(I need an emoji for "taking notes")

[vestal sable]

people use this ig

[strong summit]

Cat holding a hammer, huh

[vestal sable]

naruhodo is japanese for "i see"

[strong summit]

Noted

[vestal sable]

Gold
Factory 1 (Level 3)
Bryophyta Gravel (E1) Spot
Ptilopsis Silence Astgenne

Factory 2 (Level 3)
Totter Steward Perfumer
Fang alter Fang Kroos

Factory 3 (Level 2)
Jessica Vanilla
Meteor + literally wahtaever

EXP
Factory 4 (Level 3)
Vermeil Beanstalk Click
Cuora Cardigan

Factory 5 (Level 3)
Vigna Shirayuki Frostleaf
NoirCorne Beagle Wild Mane

<@&586570970345635868>

[vestal sable]

replacements down the line
conviction(e1) to Factory 5, any of the workers moves down and replaces beagle who goes to Factory 3 instead
Purestream(e1) to Factory 2, steward/perfumer replaces cardigan/beagle
Haze (e0) to Factory 2, steward/perfumer replaces cardigan/beagle

greyy is a power plant worker so we'll get to that later

[mighty breach]

sorry if this a stupid question but usually is it better to farm ce5 or to use sanity on drones for tp?

[orchid bane]

1st. CE 6

Weird "Or"

I think we shouldn't compare like that

I think if you don't have Proviso. Get her somehow, and then you use drone to her TP. If you still don't have enough LMD to spend your exp, you could go for CE6

It is more recommended to use your sanity for other materials and get all your lmd exp from base

Also you should never go LS6 that is bad compare to CE6

[vestal sable]

neither is the correct choice

[orchid bane]

Oh wait I missed the sanity part

[arctic prism]

lol yea just being patient and waiting is generally the correct choice
or looking around in weird places of the game to see if you can get some lmd for free if you just need a small amount for a specific upgrade

you should never be converting sanity to drones

[orchid bane]

No don't exchange sanity for drone. That is bad

[mighty breach]

ohh i see

i honeslty just wanted to e2 mon3ter and needed a bit of lmd so i figured why not spam drones to get it

thank you all for the help tho

[arctic prism]

by "weird places" im referring to 0 sanity req stuff in the game like rewards for IS or RA or smth like that
but that also might be more effort than it's worth so if you're really desperate just for a small amount CE6 is fine

[orchid bane]

I used to joke that is "the fastest way to get LMD" , but now we have sweep, I am not totally sure any more

[arctic prism]

lmao i think it's still techically the fastest if you have infinite sanity?

[orchid bane]

-# Sanity can be infinite

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390756814532378634/1342699177905229915/373ef37edc7e57a483182aee3b49503236816755.gif

[mighty breach]

i will probably just do IS runs until i get bored, i cant be asked to learn RA honestly lol

[orchid bane]

I haven't cleared RA myself, but I think if you invest some time to learn it, you could enjoy it a bit

There are rewards there tho

[mighty breach]

well now that i have more ops i might give it a try, anyways thank you for the help

[orchid bane]

I only stopped here. I just want to save some sanity for chips tho

[vestal sable]

u can use glowstick abuse to clear out the ra shop with a few hours of gameplay

i played it normally for the first few days and farmed wood and then abused the hell out of glowsticks

[mighty breach]

damn wtf, I will look it up and try it out, ty for the tip

[vestal sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swBbD-LD6r0

if ur acc is strong enough u can actually play the first part of the game mode normally instead of skipping days for encounters (since u can take the fights to unlock the stone instead of relying solely on encounters)

[mighty breach]

ig its time to grind RA for 3 hours

if i knew it was this simple to just break RA i would have it way sooner lmao

[strong summit]

All done. I will start orienting the tags to find those. Thanks again!

[vestal sable]

does anyone know if almond e2 skill includes herself

[mighty breach]

according to the wiki it does

[vestal sable]

what i figured as well, thanks, so ig jessica + vanilla is enough to max her out

not like ill ever e2 her but good to know ig

[round lichen]

The ones where the screen dims to highlight a specific spot are the only ones that auto-skip afaik

[wind otter]

could be

[hidden barn]

Recommend me a base layout for processing rocks
Right now its on 252 12 slot
But planning to switch when i have enough rock stocks

[round lichen]

@hidden barn I wrote this a few weeks ago

The first 3 steps are just telling them to switch to 252, but after step 4 there’s advice on how to orundum farm

[atomic oak]

@civic crystal if u need help for base building u just started a week ago, just go here and ask.

[civic crystal]

Tysm

[hidden barn]

This is my base right now
I've only started working on the rock mines yesterday

My plan is to farm rocks when there's no event to farm mats in

[little ledge]

Do we have like someone who counts LMD/Sanity over every stage that drops LMD?

[round lichen]

There are resources like Penguin Statistics that are dedicated to collecting data on drop rates. You can check this PeterYR vid as well:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv1T4lzU3sE

[little ledge]

Penguin Statistics still relevant?

[round lichen]

Ofc yeah

Why would you think they’re not?

[orchid bane]

I think they are still kinda RNG, but surely the most relevant we have

[pallid isle]

without having pure data mining of every single thing yeah we have a rough idea of the rng numbers when enough samples are given

[valid storm]

sadly, not even datamining can tell us the real rates, only HG can

[grave flume]

i am using texas/lap/exu and sa/jaye/provi for now. Should i build the shamare team too?

[valid storm]

I'd say so, Sham team should bring more LMD

[orchid bane]

Shamere and Proviso TP still the meta these day ||for regular player ||

[valid storm]

and for the rest?

[orchid bane]

Still proviso and Tequila but

[valid storm]

cursed?

[orchid bane]

You already know it. Just let me act cool and leave

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/858607407554756638.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[valid storm]

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/mhm-agreed-agree-chenqianyu-chen-gif-12230995990157223108

[light widget]

which of the 2 is better? assuming 24hrs rotation

[vestal sable]

should be the tequila team

[light widget]

I thought rotating out sham team would have an effect cuz of resetting paprika skill, but guess they're just a strong base slave

[orchid bane]

How can you make the number 96 ????

Isn't shame team 90% or 97% with amiya skill like ?

@light widget

[light widget]

defective 4 band member in cc

[orchid bane]

Oh oh

Lmao

[light widget]

since I can only get to 50 passion with uika, umiri, and mutsumi, mutsumi can only generate 6% tp

I just add kalt to compensate for the 1% loss in tp

[orchid bane]

You don't have someone like Hoshi2 swire or m3/kal amiya ?

[light widget]

since nyamu is pretty useless for cc

[orchid bane]

Well that make some sense I guess

[light widget]

4 band + kalt has 6% tp, 3% gold prod + 2% fac prod so I just think 3% gold prod is much better than 1% tp

[civic kelp]

i want to farm oru again but whats the best base set up to full send oru farming ? currently i have 8mil LMD and about 7K gold bars

[frank cipher]

252 work fine as not short of lmd/exp/gold

how long want ao farm is 100rock : 1 day
100rock last 2 day 😭

[remote bison]

is this UI error? this should mean sakiko gets faster MD, dying early right

[orchid bane]

[meager meadow]

yes

[orchid bane]

Probably should be red

[meager meadow]

you play joestarEN, get used to getting dogshit like citation typos in sakiko dialogue

and this

[astral tiger]

should be -0.1, would align with the +0.05 self MD and +0.05 from nyamu

then again, u can just assign them all to cc and check the time

[meager meadow]

this

this is prolly uika

[astral tiger]

yeah

[round lichen]

I was trying to arrive at Proviso’s multiplier from first principles yesterday. I figured you would use the probability for each order type and the multiplication effect of that order type (so x2 for 2-bar orders, x1.67 for 3-bars, and x1 for 4-bars).

For a Lv 3 TP with no tailoring skills, the probabilities are 30% for 2-bars, 50% for 3-bars, and 20% for 4-bars. So I got
.3(2) + .5(1.67) + .2(1) = 1.63 as her multiplier. What am I doing wrong?

[wicked canopy]

The different order amounts also take different amounts of time to complete

[scenic gate]

If there's anyone willing, it would be great if you could take a look at the rotation spreadsheet i made using the OPs i have and tell me if there's anything stupid i did there

Should hopefully be pretty readable, i also added a small legend half for myself half for others a little below from where you open

https://www.krooster.com/u/elenakrittik Here's the roster if someone is willing to dig deep

[scenic gate]

reupload because i forgot HR office exists

[dense crypt]

Sooo any updates for this?

[vestal sable]

ooops sorry i got distracted before i sent it

ill do it now

[vestal sable]

is ur jaye e0

if so dont e1 him

[dense crypt]

Yep he is, I knew his E1 bricks his base skill so I never did

Although I feel like I don't get lots of value from him anyways since I don't log on frequently enough, but Im not sure

[vestal sable]

Trading Post 1
Proviso Exusiai Lemuen
Proviso Quartz(e1) Vigil
Notes:Use fia to keep proviso working 100% of the time

Trading Post 2
Kafka Shamare Tequila
Jaye Lappland Texas

ill get to factories next

btw for factories u have a couple of options

do 2 gold 2 exp and spend drones on gold factories to generate enough gold bars for proviso

or do 3 gold 1 exp and spend drones exclusively on the proviso tp

[vestal sable]

this is if u value exp more

[vestal sable]

this is if u value lmd more

if u have a surplus of gold bars u can also do 2-2 and still drone proviso tp

just lmk which of the configurations would work best for u

[dense crypt]

Is Archetto an acceptable alternative to proviso? She is 55% and saves the micro of the fia swap

For quarts, is her % going to be 34%? I'm currently running Exusiai in her place at 35%

[vestal sable]

nothing is

[dense crypt]

(using Exu alter in post 1)

[vestal sable]

exusiai (og) + lemuen is 80%

exu alter is not worth it

quartz + vigil is the backup (at 74%) for when exu + lemuen are tired

that way u only have to fia proviso

[dense crypt]

Fair enough

[dense crypt]

Currently what I'm doing is 2 gold 2 xp, and when I stockpile enough rocks I switch one of the xp to rock.

[vestal sable]

for reference these are the numbers for lemuen + exusiai + proviso

archetto (40%) + exusiai alter (30%) + Lemuen (45%) is 115%

[dense crypt]

And I'm droning tp to use my gold bar stockpile rn

[vestal sable]

ayt that fine

[dense crypt]

Got it, thanks

[vestal sable]

so ill just give u 2-2 configurations and ill give u the alternative config for one of the exp factories for when ur doing rocks then

[dense crypt]

Sure, the alt is just eyla tho, I don't have anyone else with rock skills

[vestal sable]

i mean

ceylon isn't worth it but im sure u have chestnut lava earthspirit

lemme double check ur stuff first and ill type stuff out in a bit

[dense crypt]

Np, take your time, and thanks for doing so

[vestal sable]

oh yea ur on cn right, u have snegurochka (4*) i assume

[dense crypt]

I do yea, she is e0

[vestal sable]

ayt

[vestal sable]

@dense crypt greyy alter not e2 right?

[dense crypt]

He isn't no

Although if it's useful I could, because she is part of the bombers for the is5 hand which I will do soon

[vestal sable]

if ur gonna build him anyway then ill just assume he's e2 and give u the team for that?

actually its the same teams, you just need to keep lancet at 0 morale once he's e2

[dense crypt]

Sure that works

[vestal sable]

@dense crypt bryophyta not e2 as well right?

[dense crypt]

He isn't no

[vestal sable]

u dont have to e2 him if he's not, its not worth it, just wanted to confirm

ayt

@dense crypt astgenne and silence (both OGs) not e2 right?

[dense crypt]

They aren't no

[vestal sable]

i assume u dont have nasti as well, unless i missed her

[dense crypt]

I don't have her

[vestal sable]

ayt

[vestal sable]

no tragodia as well?

[dense crypt]

I suffer everyday in is from this

[vestal sable]

FEater not e2 as well yea?

[dense crypt]

Tho, I am probably buying him when he is in self select pack, I think in a few months (not sure)

[dense crypt]

Nope

[vestal sable]

CC
Eunectes Wisadel Mlynar and either Mon3tr+Ascalon or Swire + Hoshi Alter
Full Ave Mujica Team

Notes:
Mon3tr + Ascalon:

• 0.05 MD
• +2% to all factories
• +7% to all TPs
• +5% Mastery speed
  Hoshi Alter + Swire:
• +3% to all factories
• +7% to all TPs
• +5% Mastery speed
  I would do Mon3tr Ascalon as the MD from mon3tr applies to the entire base thanks to Mlynar's skill and you only lose 1% on the factories. Losing 4% basewide efficiency is worth being able to keep your stronger teams running for longer.
  Umiri also buffs Vigil and Lappland aside from the mujica team's generic buffs so make sure the teams are rotated accordingly.

Reception Room
Ines Chen
Vulpis Suzuran

Office
Penance
Haruka

Power Plant 1
Greyy Alter
Goldenglow

Power Plant 2
Greyy
Blaze Alter

Power Plant 3
Lancet
Any 15% worker

Note:

• Keep lancet at 0 morale after Greyy alter is E2
• Since PP efficiency is whatever, u can just leave Lancet in PP3 and get rid of the 2nd unit in the preset, u lose out on some drones (ie the 15% PP efficiency u could have if u swapped to the other worker) but if u dont login multiple times during the day ur gonna be capped on drones anyway and this saves having to manually ensure lancet isn't in the dorm. IDK if there's a setting that locks units out of dorms.

Gonna split into 2 comments, this is for everything that isn't the factories

oh i forgot HR

[dense crypt]

Alright, give me a moment to read through and digest

[vestal sable]

edited HR in as well

[vestal sable]

Regular Setup
Factory 1 (Gold)
Weedy Purestream(e1) Snegurochka(e1)
Warmy Haze Totter(e1)

Factory 2 (Gold)
Gravel(e1) Bryophyta Spot(e1)
Dorothy Ptilopsis Steward(e1)

Factory 3 (EXP)
Vermeil(e1) Scene Pallas
Vigna Castle(level 30) Shirayuki/Frostleaf (e1)

Factory 4 (EXP)
Conviction(e1) FEater Crownslayer
Mizuki Jessica Vanilla

For Rock farming
Factory 1 (Gold)
Weedy Purestream(e1) Snegurochka(e1)
Warmy Haze Dorothy

Factory 2 (Gold)
Gravel(e1) Bryophyta Spot(e1)
Mizuki Jessica Vanilla

Factory 3 (EXP)
Vermeil(e1) Scene Pallas
Conviction(e1) FEater Crownslayer

Factory 4 (Orundum)
Chestnut (e1) Eyja Lava (e1)
Earthspirit (e1) Midnight (e1) Mint(e1)

If u get tragodia E2

Factory 3 (EXP)
Vermeil(e1) Scene Pallas
Vigna Castle(level 30) FEater(or)Shirayuki/Frostleaf (e1)

Factory 4 (EXP)
Conviction(e1) Tragodia Crownslayer
Mizuki Jessica Vanilla

For rocks with tragodia E2

Factory 3 (Orundum)
Chestnut (e1) Eyja Lava (e1)
Earthspirit (e1) Midnight (e1) Mint(e1)

Factory 4 (EXP)
Conviction(e1) Tragodia Crownslayer
Vermeil(e1) Scene Pallas

Notes:

• Weedy team must be on shift at the same time u have eunectes in CC and greyy alt + lancet in PP
• Mint is the rare case of a 5* getting a base skill before e2 cuz her e2 upgrades her default base skill, e1s are still worth doing for base whether they be 4, 5 or 6*
• Teams/units in italics are the ones that get changed when u switch to farming orundum

[dense crypt]

Alright, here is my question for each room if that's fine.

CC: Why is Wisadel better than Vivian? Wisadel gives clue speed, but loses production speed on Knight ops like gravel. She also gives base wide MD with Mylnar skill.

Reception:
Is the ones that increase rate of unacquired clues not worth? Most of the time I'm stuck on clue 1, 4, or 5. Whilst I have ops that increase those chances, I often don't micro change, and just use Chen3 or cantabile.

Factory: Marcelle would be better than steward right? It's generic 30% Vs 25%

TP: would Jaye be better than a generic 30% from Mousse? I feel like the efficiency might go down if I don't log in often enough since it will approach cap too quickly.

I'll add the other changes you said. Thanks for the suggestions on a lot of the 4 star ops, didn't know they had such strong base skills.

[vestal sable]

CC: I'd prefer running wisadel cuz she has Mood drain reduction that applies to every room, trading 7% gold efficiency to in return keep ur first teams running more often (ur weedy team is like 160% efficiency while the 2nd team there is 90% for example and the tequila team in the TP is similarly better than the next one so i'd value being able to keep team 1 in rotation that much longer (this is all under the assumption that u keep team 1 running as long as possible and only swap to team 2 as a temp backup while recovering morale). Vivianna would gain more value if u had say 2 out of wild mane fartooth ashlock at e2 since she'd buff them as well but u dont so i dont think its worth it

Marcille: yep ur right, i missed her out when going through stuff i think but yes she's better than steward

if u have any of e2 waai fu, e2 minimalist, e2 mayer or e2 snow hunter, they'd similarly replace totter but i assume u dont have any of those at e2 yea?

Reception Room:
Not really worth it, you're better off just adding a bunch of friends and swapping ur spare clues with them cuz the clue bias still doesn't guarantee getting the one u need unless its hooheyak or odda's skill specifically

Also i forgot to note but E1 caper will replace Chen in the ines team if u have clue exchange running

if u were asking about chen3 specifically u can use her in place of OG chen and lose 5% for the chance to get extra clues if u wanna gamble on that as well. I would never run canta for this tho

TP: Jaye is the backup team in this case and not meant to stay in the TP for too long, this team has a 113% efficiency with a 12h average of 97.7% with e0 lappland, going up to 121% with a 12h average of 105.2% (and this team shouldn't even be working for that long anyway cuz ur main team should've recovered by then)

The generic say, gummy midnight catapult team(or mousse yato +1) ends up at 90% in comparison

just remember to spam drones on proviso TP until ur low on gold then swap to either 3rd gold factory or droning one of the 2 gold factories

[civic crystal]

@vestal sable hi is it ok if you can help me with my base

do i just send you a link to my krooster?

[ember hull]

hmm is the base calc sheet not updated?

[ember hull]

https://www.krooster.com/u/gvm ugh I'm struggling to see how I'm supposed to upgrade my base output with this

I'm working on proviso e2 and swapping to tp lv2 after, but I don't know what to do with the fac lineup

Feels like there's not enough worker

Base setup is 252 2313

i'm thinking something like this but idk how much the output of totter would be during his 2nd 12 hr shiftt

[astral tiger]

can u show your base income report?

[ember hull]

The drops in lmd output happen during shifts i drone less

Usually when my best tp team is resting

[astral tiger]

that's pretty decent

only improvement u can make is staggering your units

[ember hull]

This is before proviso tho

I have to revamp my entire rotation to fit her in

[astral tiger]

other than getting better base workers

[ember hull]

I'm staggering teams instead

[astral tiger]

I saw that

but you're better off staggering units instead, although it will just barely increase your gain

[ember hull]

I'm doing this cos bryo transitions into a combo so i don't have to revamp the entire rotation presets when i do e2 him

[astral tiger]

fair enough

[ember hull]

Same as fang alter slotting into the 3rd fac

[astral tiger]

but yeah for more improvement u will have to get better workers

[ember hull]

yea paingge

ok so the rots would look like this in its entirety

[astral tiger]

the 3rd cc shift last 2 ops are random right?

just asking you aint keeping them empty lol

[ember hull]

yea filler

[astral tiger]

alr

looks fine then

I'd use vigil in RR tho

over saria

[ember hull]

sounds good

[dense crypt]

Appreciate the responses. Thanks!

[vestal sable]

yes and ur current building levels

[civic crystal]

https://www.krooster.com/u/wise-gold-durin-28bc

Also which buildings do I upgrade next? I need 10 lvl 3 buildings for control center 5

[astral tiger]

max out all your facs

[agile spire]

i need help optizimizng my base

where do i put proviso?

[astral tiger]

243 or 252

243 then well.. any lvl 3 tp with 2 highest % u got

if 252 then downgrade a tp to lvl 2 and put the highest % u got

[civic crystal]

Oh so I just gotta max all my facs and my base buildings are pretty much done? Then I just gotta focus on getting more base slaves right

[astral tiger]

you will have to max out the training room eventually

u wont have enough power for it unless u downgrade something on the left side or you are willing to work with 3 dorms instead of 4

this can be solved once u get proviso, which lets u run a lvl 2 tp

that's pretty much it for setting up the base, after that u just need better base workers yep

[vestal sable]

u have 6 already, the 4 factories can be last

for now downgrade a trading post, upgrade a factory instead and do the trading post as ur last lv 3 (or the training room)

[scenic gate]

He will just not quite (you have 0.3hours leeway) drop down to 20% over a 12h shift as long as the morale drain is 0.65 or lower, which is what a max level factory with fully staffed CC achieves, or you could use someone like Mlynar to compensate if your factory isn't max level. so as long as you rotate reasonably on time Totter is a 27.5% worker
(i think factory levels are responsible for the "-0.1" part in morale drain displayed in factory interface?)

[astral tiger]

yeah a lvl 3 fac has -0.1

lvl 2 has -0.05

[scenic gate]

i personally use him together with Almond in a three-slot staggered gold factory. almond consumes an additional 0.25 morale per hour meaning i can't use her as a filler for three 12h shifts in a row, so i use totter instead of her in the "middle" shift

hm, "three-slot" was irrelevant

whatevs

[orchid bane]

Me is coping for absolutely no reasons
Mlynar event and Bellone event
7 days event ✅
Male 6* female 5* ✅
The 6* was NPC that appeared in a limited events, also family of an Operator in the event ✅
Cool character design with black suit ✅
Epic baseskill event ❓

[orchid bane]

[agile spire]

can anyone help with base rotations

[agile spire]

are these TP rotatations okay

[astral tiger]

u dont have tuye for pozy team? use 3 30% then cuz I don't think that team reaches 90%

your jaye team is fine if it's e0 jaye

shamare and proviso teams are also fine

do u have fiametta?

[agile spire]

Nopee

I dont have fiam

And tuye

[astral tiger]

alright, teams are fine, just change pozy team for a better one

even 3 30% ops are better

[agile spire]

I seee aightt

[rocky kelp]

Is it recommended to upgrade rr to lv 3?

[meager meadow]

nah
i mean, you only really need 2 support slots

friend list is whatever, i believe you get 75 slots for free anw

[serene estuary]

Can someone rate my base? I'm not sure if I'm doing well

[ember hull]

Ugh painge don't got almond

[ember hull]

Oh so totter can't survive 2 shift?

I'm kinda severely lacking workers so i need to make do with every single 1 i got

Oh wait I'm dumb

Sorry EN can't read

[scenic gate]

he can survive all three shifts, it's just that he gets worse the longer he works for yeah

under the above-mentioned conditions, keeping him for two shifts makes him an effectively 22.5% worker so he's still pretty good

wait no

lemme think i might have giga screwed up

no nvm

all should be good

[next hill]

what do they mean by 'raw %' here? efficiency?

[astral tiger]

yes

[meager meadow]

[scenic gate]

raw, pure, ultimate, final. the % efficiency an operator ultimately gives

[frank cipher]

can start from go to pin massage 4. base team n combo

in n go to noob tab, you already half way thru

[meager meadow]

dk what all ops you got

as isacool said, see the base combos guide in pins

[limpid frost]

heard somewhere that it’s more efficient to spend drones on exp than lmd. is this still the case with if i have proviso?

[round lichen]

Operators who don’t have specific constraints or gimmicks to increase productivity. Shamare isn’t a raw% op because her productivity is tied to the number of ops in her TP. Jaye isn’t a raw% op because he relies on cap boosters to increase productivity. Quartz is a good raw% op even though she technically does have a gimmick (increased productivity based on how many Fac formulas you’re making) because unless your name is Vinci, you will always be making gold and XP, so she gives 34 raw %.

@limpid frost It’s not more efficient to drone XP, it’s just very inefficient to farm LS-6. If you have a major deficiency in both LMD and XP, it’s better to use drones on your XP Facs and use sanity on CE-6. But if your situation isn’t dire enough to spend sanity on those supply stages, Proviso’s multiplier is still the best value per drone

[spring quartz]

I feel like Im doing not very good...
https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/zahoc

[round lichen]

I would’ve guessed you just stopped interacting with base after year 1, except that you put Theresa in your CC…

[spring quartz]

I remember leveling up ops for base and never putting them

[round lichen]

1. Switch to 252
2. USE PROVISO
3. Spot shouldn’t be working on XP
4. Amiya and Paprika’s skills don’t stack, you want them in separate rotations
5. 12F sucks since higher rarity and promoted ops get clue speed bonuses (literally E2 Skadi, an op with NO RR SKILL, still outperforms him)
6. Haruka > Utage

[spring quartz]

why

do people do 2 or 3 rotations

12f formation deleted

[meager meadow]

do not go 243, 252 is plenty sufficient

no matter the state of account

where even is that doc from

anw just listen to what beagle says

[hasty tiger]

This is the second time ive seen this cited, what's it from

[spring quartz]

6 year old reddit post

[hasty tiger]

Maybe consider just like, not taking 6 year old advice? Or advice from reddit. At all

[round lichen]

252 gets 1 extra factory (think of this as a +100% buff to overall production) in exchange for lower level dorms. So if you aren’t logging in every time your operators finish resting, you are losing value on all the resources invested in your dorms. Of course there are some ops who lose value like Minimalist and Archetto, and you will have 1 less slot for workers, but none of these changes are enough to cover the +100% Fac difference

[meager meadow]

reddit advice is fine, gato patrols it day and night for base

but 6 year old is diabolical

that falls right when there was no proper base documentation

and people decided 243 > 252 because of feels

[spring quartz]

so like, I would need to clock in in more precise time periods with 252?

[meager meadow]

no

basically

you rotate your base 2 times per day usually

it aligns with emptying sanity

a level 1 dorm can replenish operators to full in 12 hours

[hasty tiger]

They're saying that in a 2/4/3 you would 'need' to log in more often to get value for what you invested in

[meager meadow]

^

[hasty tiger]

Which is a level 5 dorm

[meager meadow]

a lvl 5 dorm has higher morale regen

but if you log in and rotate at the same interval

that higher regen is wasted

[hasty tiger]

I'm so committed to level 1 dorms I forgot how high they went

[meager meadow]

they can replenish in half the time

so 6 hours

[spring quartz]

do people use dorm opps

[meager meadow]

obviously it is unrealistic to expect the average person to rotate their base 4 times

yes

if there's spare slots, they do use em

they aren't a necessity though

[spring quartz]

do people use 2 or 3 rotations

[hasty tiger]

Unless you're running pretty exact rotations you don't need dorm ops

[meager meadow]

some use 2, some use 3, others use a mix

no more than that though

[hasty tiger]

If youre doing rotations per 12 hours zero dorm ops are needed

[hasty tiger]

How many presets you need is determined by what teams you're running not a universal

If you want to use the minimum amount of people and they aren't a specific combo you stagger good % people and have all the presets used

[meager meadow]

make sure to check the 4th link in pins, i.e the base combos guide

[hasty tiger]

If you're using teams that need specific people to work you might just have two presets where the second is a whole new team

[meager meadow]

it's got everything you need to know

[spring quartz]

I tried but kept seeing that I don't have enough ops for combos

[meager meadow]

that's alright

[hasty tiger]

If you require spoon-feeding you can ask flygon

[meager meadow]

just run your best productivity% operator

[spring quartz]

which one

there are like 3 of them

[hasty tiger]

This one

You can also just search their messages in this channel. They've helped some newbies recently who probably have the same or worse rosters

[spring quartz]

scary noobflation

[hasty tiger]

Can lift a routine from one they've made already

[meager meadow]

aight let's take a look at what you got

see what we can improve

[spring quartz]

what does lacus mean

[meager meadow]

the author is a bandori monkey

just ignore the little references

[spring quartz]

I understood less

[spring quartz]

this is the situation currently

[meager meadow]

yes worry not, im taking a good luck

[spring quartz]

thinking about outting ave mujicas into cc

[meager meadow]

we can start with even better

like using mon3tr in CC

[spring quartz]

should I delete formation 2

[meager meadow]

yeah

[spring quartz]

like that?

[meager meadow]

formation 2 is nice, ye
formation 1 would be amiya, mon3tr, gnosis, dobermann, nearl

[spring quartz]

gnosis?

[meager meadow]

yeah, the kjerag supporter

your krooster shows you have him

[spring quartz]

I mean I do have him

it's just there are no Karlan ops

[meager meadow]

you have silverash

[spring quartz]

in cc in that rotation

oh

[meager meadow]

and you got jaye

[spring quartz]

missread

[meager meadow]

gnosis allows making a special team that empowers kjerag operators in tp

this team in turn can abuse jaye's skill

[meager meadow]

anw i settle on this

[spring quartz]

I guess deleting all 3 here?

[meager meadow]

we will get to all in order, dw

[spring quartz]

alr

[meager meadow]

for reception room, mom + daughter is fine, use ines with miksaparato

you only need these 2 formations

[spring quartz]

isn't still the same 20 percent

on second op

[meager meadow]

rarity bonus applies

the game doesn't mention this info

[spring quartz]

what did I miss....

[meager meadow]

basically

grandpa counts as 46%

[spring quartz]

hmmm alr

[meager meadow]

alternatively, you can use gitano

actually do that instead

formation 1: sankta ines
formation 2: vulpis suzu

oh nvm she isn't e2 for you

[spring quartz]

hmmm done

[meager meadow]

oh well

minor difference

[spring quartz]

undone

or...

[meager meadow]

this is final

[spring quartz]

done*

[meager meadow]

your krooster doesn't mention scene but you are using her here

is she e2

[spring quartz]

I doubt

[meager meadow]

aight

factory 2 is currently:
form1: spot jessica kroos
form2: conviction, shira, castle

instead, try this:
form1: vermeil, executor2, ceobe
form2: mizuki, 25%, 25%

25%: operator with 25% productivity, like jessica, roberta etc.

hmm, facilities can only have 3 formation presets at max

this hampers what i have in mind for factory 4

oh well, gotta work with what's there

factory 4 is currently:

form1: meteor, beagle, vigna
form2: popu, ashlock, roberta

instead, try this:
form1: conviction, tragodia
form2: conviction, crownslayer
form3: crownslayer, tragodia

[spring quartz]

isn't conviction already in use

[meager meadow]

you will notice form2 is the same between these 2 factories
that's because we will stagger their rotation

i will explain this bit later on

for now, just set them up

i should ask this first, did you convert to 252 yet?

[spring quartz]

eh not yet

will do that in a few mins

[meager meadow]

cuz this would change our teams

aight atleast let me know what level the right side

office level, reception level

[meager meadow]

whew aight

[spring quartz]

checking if office not maxed

I assume

[meager meadow]

yeah

more like, what the factory distribution will become after the switch

you will end up with 2 level 3 3 level 2 factories

[spring quartz]

hmm I think, it's done

so I downgrade all dorms to lvl1

and change power plant to factory>

?

[meager meadow]

yes

and downgrade 2 factories to level 2

[spring quartz]

huh

[meager meadow]

your power capacity would be insufficient even with max factories

this is precisely why people warn not to upgrade office at all

and reception beyond level 2

to compensate for that loss in power, some factories are downgraded

[spring quartz]

Do I need to downgrade specific ones?

factories

[meager meadow]

nah, just downgrade any two facs

the 5th one you construct will be level 2

[meager meadow]

this is final

be back in half an hour

[spring quartz]

I should have converted before doing that...

[meager meadow]

yeah well, can do that later

we just plan the formations in advance now

[spring quartz]

converted
2 factions done

[meager meadow]

this is final

this should take care of your 2 exp facs

time to move on to gold

[spring quartz]

can I do more than 25?

like gravel/feater

[meager meadow]

no we save those for other teams

mizuki boosts 25% workers by 5%

this applies to him as well

so instead of 25%, you end up with a 30%, combo goes from 75% to 90%

[spring quartz]

we're doing 2 exp 3 gold?

[meager meadow]

2 exp 2 gold 1 flex

flex being flexible, changeable between gold and xp depending on what you lack

[spring quartz]

I see

exp done

[meager meadow]

fac 1 currently:

form1: gravel, haze, cuora
form2: fang, scene, beanstalk

instead, try this:

form1: bryophyta, gravel, haze
form2: mizuki, 25%, 25%

[vestal sable]

do u want a layout for this? i can help with that

[spring quartz]

yeah

[vestal sable]

ayt gimme a bit

252?

or 243

[spring quartz]

dooby helping me with that too

just converted

[vestal sable]

so 252 yea?

which buildings are lv 3

ie how many lv 2/3 factories and tps

[meager meadow]

he is 252, 3 fac level 3

tp both level 3

[vestal sable]

i assume one tp lv 2, one lv 3 as well yea?

i'd downgrade a tp for the extra lv 3 factory

proviso TP doesn't need to be lv 3 and u gain more from the extra factory slot

if ur fine with doing that ill give u lineups for that, else ill just keep the 2 lv 3 TP stuff in mind @spring quartz

[spring quartz]

I don't think I have

that bryo guy

[meager meadow]

don't think his proviso can pull weight at level 2

with the ops present

[vestal sable]

nah proviso e2 pulls her weight even with quartz

[spring quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-exusiai-angel-confused-dizzy-gif-15630974669602071569

[vestal sable]

u definitely gain more value from the extra lv 3 factory

[spring quartz]

I just got into all that and don't think I understood what that all means

[vestal sable]

so long adele, record restoration

[meager meadow]

idk, he can do gnosis jaye sa with proviso instead

that's a gain of ~50%

[vestal sable]

ah fair ur right he does have that

ok ill have to math this on the sheet then

[meager meadow]

besides it seems he might not have enough fac workers at this point to make that level 3 fac worth it's while

they won't cap if im guessing right

[meager meadow]

fac 3 currently:

form1: minimal, steward, vanilla
form2: almond, bena, vulcan

instead, try this:

form1: purestream, spot
form2: purestream, totter
form3: totter, spot

[spring quartz]

how important is that bryo guy

[meager meadow]

he is an additional 30% gold worker at e0

you might have noticed you don't exactly have a ton of gold workers, relative to exp workers

[spring quartz]

🥀

[meager meadow]

and when you do get to e2ing bryo when your account is in a comfy state (because e2 for base is never worthwhile except 1 operator)

he empowers gold workers to have a 5% bonus

[meager meadow]

i think i will lock these two

you will need to raise purestream to e1 but it's worthwhile

[vestal sable]

actually no

cuz his jaye is e1

[meager meadow]

ah then nvm

[spring quartz]

which should I do

[vestal sable]

top one is the 3 man team, bottom one is duo with quartz

[meager meadow]

downgrade one of the tp

the formations are fine currently, don't fret

we can make that flex fac level 3 instead

and shuffle teams about

[spring quartz]

isn't trading center 2lvl bad

[meager meadow]

not with proviso

long story short, proviso gives level 2 trade post wings

[vestal sable]

in a 252 its optimal to keep proviso's at lv 2 cuz she abuses it well enough to not make it that much of a loss

so u save more power for the factories that need the extra worker

[meager meadow]

for your 5th factory, just make some bullshit it should be fine (don't use stuff like popukar doe)

[vestal sable]

ok i have to math like 5 teams to compare which ones go where in the TPS so give me a minute

[meager meadow]

flygon can take up on the TPs and check the rest now, i gotta do some other work

[spring quartz]

Im a bit confused

nvm

3rd is bhyo

am I doing that correctly

also if I switch team before they get exhaused accidentally, will that break some set ups

[meager meadow]

as long as you are switching in 12h intervals, you are gold

10 am, 10 pm; 12 pm, 12am etc.

getting it off by ~30-60 min is usually fine, try not to go past that, and certainly don't let it add up loool

[spring quartz]

I will be clicking auto switcher as soon at it pops up

should I do Exu2+Lemuen+Adnachiel?

[vestal sable]

ambriel e1 is 30%

i believe adnachiel is 20%?

and yea that's one of the teams i was looking at

lemme sheet a few more

cuz u also have

[spring quartz]

oh looked at wrong laterano

[spring quartz]

?

[vestal sable]

looking at 2 man + 3 man t eams to decide which ones are best to put in each trading post

give me a bit

[spring quartz]

do I not use
Exusiai Texas Lappland

oh

there was also smth in a guide about ave mujicas + siracusans

[meager meadow]

lol that bit is whatever

tp meta leaves that in the dust

[vestal sable]

these should be the best combinations that are better than just 3*30

[wind otter]

@valid storm What have I ever done to you to be deserving of this unprovoked act of aggression?

[vestal sable]

wrong game

😭

[meager meadow]

him pinging the mod about it is even funnier ngl

let him cook

[vestal sable]

@spring quartz how often do u login/swap

[spring quartz]

well I can login twice a day

[vestal sable]

ok

[vestal sable]

Trading post 1 (level 2)
Proviso Quartz
Exusiai Lemuen

Trading post 2(level 3)
Exusiai2 Lemuen Ambriel
Jaye Silverash Courier/Matterhorn

prob do this until u get shamare

[meager meadow]

think it's worth asking if he has a selector

[vestal sable]

oh yea, if u have a selector that has shamare that's prob a good thing to do

[spring quartz]

I do

[meager meadow]

well, aren't you a lucky person

[vestal sable]

with shamare?

[meager meadow]

still gotta build her

but good start

[spring quartz]

🙂

[vestal sable]

needs e2 but she's a solid unit for IS and stuff and makes the 2nd best TP team so worth it imo

ur tequila is already E2 anyway

[spring quartz]

I think her e2 will be like

in another month...

[meager meadow]

yeah that's fine dw

owning is the big part

since you can't get her anymore

outside kernel

[wind otter]

grab Greyy2 while you still can

[meager meadow]

mogged by muel

[vestal sable]

Once she's E2
Trading Post 1
Proviso Quartz
Exusiai Lemuen

Trading post 2(level 3)
Bibeak Shamare Tequila
Jaye SilverAsh Courier/Matterhorn

is prob what you'd change to

[meager meadow]

let us know your results when you pull on the next sui banner as well

[vestal sable]

Lemme see if i can salvage the factories a bit

[meager meadow]

if you are a lucky guy, we will be helping you make one of the most idiotic setups in this game

[spring quartz]

Im here

[spring quartz]

gonna do that

[spring quartz]

?

[meager meadow]

?

the next sui banner, whenever it arrives?

[vestal sable]

they mean when u pull on wang banner or any other sui banner

if u have enough of them + the right ones they create some disgusting base combo

[spring quartz]

sui is eh

that best defender

with heal

yu and summoner?

[vestal sable]

2nd best defender now that we have hoshi alter but sorta, that is shu

shu and yu are part of the sui siblings

along with chongyue ling dusk nian and the upcoming unit wang

their base skills form a synergy/combo of sorts

[spring quartz]

alrighty, done

[vestal sable]

Gold (level 3)
Bryophyta Gravel Haze (95%)
Vermeil Ceobe Beanstalk (83-88, 86.75% over a 12h period)

Gold (level 2)
Purestream(E1) Spot (70%)
Purestream(E1) Totter (70%) (70%, goes down over time to 50%, first 12h average is 67.5%)
Spot Totter (60%, goes down over time to 40%, first 12h average is 57.5%)

Gold (level 3)
Mizuki Jessica Vanilla (90%)
Steward Roberta Perfumer(e1) (75%)

EXP (level 2)
FEater Executor Alter
Vigna Executor Alter
Vigna FEater

EXP (level 3)
Tragodia Crownslayer Conviction (105%)
Castle Shirayuki Frostleaf (90%)

if u ever plan on e2ing vulcan/scene (ie if u plan on actually using them and not just for base) then lmk and that will shuffle stuff around as well

the level 3 gold one in the middle can be converted to an exp one if u have enough gold bars, all of the workers in that one are generic

[spring quartz]

alr gonna change that all

oh wait

[vestal sable]

bryophyta is from so long adele, i think u need to clear like 5 stages

[spring quartz]

Im waiting sanity

[vestal sable]

the ones marked with e1 need to be e1 and aren't e1 on ur acc yet acc to ur krooster

ye ye

[spring quartz]

1 stage left

oh so should I just leave it like it's right now?

empty slot is bhyo

[vestal sable]

can u e1 purestream or do u not have the chips for that either

just use filler ops in place of bryo, purestream and perfumer

[spring quartz]

e1'd

[vestal sable]

ayt

[spring quartz]

so empty slot pure e1

and it's done?

[vestal sable]

just do this, replace bryo with fang until u unlock him

perfumer can be replaced by kroos as well until u get around to e1ing perfumer

[meager meadow]

id stagger the rotations

otherwise his dorms are gonna overcap

[spring quartz]

what is stagger....

[meager meadow]

usually, people rotate like this
say there are operators A,B,C,D,E.F

in a 3 slot facility
start: A,B,C
after 12 hours: D,E,F

[spring quartz]

yeah

[meager meadow]

however, doing this across every facility leads to overcapping your dorms

so some of your workers are left with nowhere to recover morale

it also means you have to make a whole team for every separate rotation

this leads to using suboptimal workers, which leads to much less productivity

[spring quartz]

hmm

that makes sense

[meager meadow]

staggering just means reusing a particular team across multiple facilities

in different rotations

so with staggering

[vestal sable]

basically
A B C
A B D
C B D
C A D

[meager meadow]

there you go

[spring quartz]

so half of ops won't have effect?

[vestal sable]

they mean rotate like this

[meager meadow]

ABC
ABD
ADC
DBC

[vestal sable]

honestly tho the factory teams are pretty close to each other so i wouldn't bother

[light widget]

can this be done using presets? or they manually rotate?

[meager meadow]

yes

you can do it with presets

some require manual but that's rare

[spring quartz]

soo whose rotation should I use

[meager meadow]

well it's your choice, but dorm overcapping is def gonna happen

this is already 15-16

adding CC and tp is definitely gonna cap

[spring quartz]

by using doo's rotation where do I put e1 pure

[vestal sable]

lemme double check but i believe u can't add a 4th preset so one of them will have to be manual

[meager meadow]

yeah you can't add 4 presets

[spring quartz]

I don't think I will be using manual

[vestal sable]

yea idk why there's a limit on presets

[meager meadow]

so 3 slot facilties can't stagger

[light widget]

ye I just checked, only 3

[meager meadow]

because joestar is stupid asf

as well as HG

[light widget]

I sleep then

I dont wanna do manual rotations ever again

[vestal sable]

u can just use mine, just prioritize proviso + her partner's mood recovery over everyone else if u can't fit everyone

the second teams aren't that much worse than the first ones

[meager meadow]

i didn't give you manual stagger rotations

they are only present in 2 slot facilities

since their staggering doesn't exceed 3 presets

there's 1 instance of mizuki team but that's reusing a whole team across different factories

[vestal sable]

@spring quartz added the efficiencies of each team for reference here

[meager meadow]

anw you can use flygon's plan for factories but try to stagger one of the level 2 factories

it should be fine then

[vestal sable]

yea that should be doable actually

u can prob stagger both of them tbh give me a bit

[spring quartz]

again

I will be using blue button to switch the thing

[meager meadow]

it's roughly at ~23

[spring quartz]

will it not break smth

[vestal sable]

u dont have to do it manually if its a lv 2 factory

[meager meadow]

no

[vestal sable]

cuz there's only 2 ops

u only need 3 presets for lv 2 factories

the 4th preset is needed for lv 3s

[meager meadow]

i mean, you will notice it even if something wrong happens
but even then, that's also solved by pressing the button again

only happens when game just wants to switch chars even if you want to keep em

[spring quartz]

I think I will be doing the rest of the base tomorrow

[meager meadow]

glgl

[spring quartz]

thanks a lot

[vestal sable]

@spring quartz this should work

use fang in place of bryophyta and kroos in place of perfumer until u get bryophyta and e1 perfumer

[spring quartz]

I will get bryo

in like

half hour

[vestal sable]

ayt use fang in place of perfumer then

[spring quartz]

waiting for sanity

[vestal sable]

ok

[vestal sable]

these whenever u get around to e2ing shamare

[spring quartz]

alrighty

[vestal sable]

Power Plants
Greyy
Liskarm

Goldenglow
Pudding

Reception Room
Vulpis Suzuran
Ines Vigil

Office
Penance
Haruka

CC should be the last thing left

[spring quartz]

cc was done at the start

I closed the game but iirc

doberman amiya mont3r gnosis

and someone else

[meager meadow]

2 smiley + amiya + mon3tr + gnosis
avemujica

but you can replace gnosis with another smiley

[vestal sable]

@spring quartz sorry just realized i missed something swap to this

[vestal sable]

edited this as well

[spring quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-exusiai-angel-confused-dizzy-gif-15630974669602071569

[vestal sable]

CC
Full Ave mujica team
Mon3tr Ascalon Gnosis ReedAlter Kroos alter (timing the gnosis shift with the SA shift)

@spring quartz

[spring quartz]

kroos alter e0

[vestal sable]

yea

works at e0

e2 gives her a training room skill

[vestal sable]

<@&586570970345635868> please shoot

[orchid bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315228979841466429/1471682922753949726/snaplytics_converted_gif_-_2026-02-13T020438.262.gif

[spring quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/amiya-arknights-arknights-anime-psycho-when-they-cry-gif-27043355

[limpid frost]

https://www.krooster.com/u/neonv01d
do i have any ops worth promoting for their base skill after proviso?

[vestal sable]

I'll check after work in a few hours if no one gets to it by then

[spring quartz]

eh what can I put instead of perfumer e1

[vestal sable]

Fang

[meager meadow]

sure do:
frostleaf, quartz, ambriel, totter, vermeil, click, greyy, haze, jessica, roberta, vigna

all these require e1 atleast

don't raise kafka, she is best at e0

further higher investment involves bryophyta to e2 and avemujica members to e2
these are too expensive for what they give so at your current stage of progression, i wouldn't bother with these at all

[spring quartz]

was I not supposed to lower lvl of factory

[meager meadow]

raise your 3* as well and you will be gold

[meager meadow]

what are your tp levels

[spring quartz]

3 and 2

[meager meadow]

how much power do you got

it should be 510/540 currently

[meager meadow]

yeah so upgrade one of the facs

that will hit 530/540

you can use the spare 10 power on a dorm if possible

hopefully you are able to use your base now

[spring quartz]

big brain stuff

ave mujicas buffing all those siracusans

gonna drop it here for later

[vestal sable]

What dooby said basically yea

[dense crypt]

In the process of setting up right now, and noticed something about morale drain.

If I run Wisadel, it's 0.1 across the base, but isn't that the same value as Mylnar+Viviana? Mlynar provides 0.05 base wide from both his passive combined, and Viviana contributed 0.05 from her first passive, and the Mylnar Wisadel passive don't stack. I tried to test it myself but I can't find any place that actually shows the morale drain number

[spring quartz]

@vestal sablebtw should I lock some ops in dorms?

[astral tiger]

yes they both have similar, wis however gives an extra -0.1 MDR if she's with civilight eterna

for that u will need 3 smiley passives excluding mlynar

u can see the morale drain in the Overview section on the left

1 morale/hr drain is the standard drain for all

the -0.1 in grey is the innate MDR from lvl 3 facility

it's 0.05 if lvl 2

-0.4 is the 0.25 from having 5 units in CC and 0.15 from mlynar in my case

[dense crypt]

Alright I'll check there. I don't have civilight so my options were Eunectes Monster Mylnar Ascalon + Viviana /Wisadel. Vivian has a small advantage of +7% efficiency on Gravel

[astral tiger]

since u have e2 viv just use her

best "smiley" to use with mlynar are monster, flametail and viviana

[dense crypt]

Yea my current yellow drain is -0.4 which seems to be the maximum with who I have

[astral tiger]

that works fine

[vestal sable]

Some people do that yea, idr what the good ones for this are off the top of my head

[vestal sable]

Yea ur correct, mb

Swap with vivianna ye

[dense crypt]

Btw I made some small adjustments, just wanna check they make are logical:

TP I'm running Archetto in place of Proviso since I don't think I can auto fia swap proviso, I lose some efficiency but I like being able to just one click in and out the base.

HR i think penence morale will drain too quickly even if she is 50%, so I'm running Mr nothing, it's 35% HR speed +15% clue speed as opposed to a generic 40% hr speed.

Factory I simplified the process a bit by having one of the xp factories run Dorothy Ptlopsis Steward team 1 (generic buff), then team 2 is 3x xp buff if XP farming, and 3x rock buff if rock farming. This way, whenever I switch what to farm, I just change one of the teams setup, and all 3 other factories stay the same.

Everything else is pretty much what you recommended

[astral tiger]

if it helps, penance will last over 21hrs

for your mlynar setup at least

also wdym archetto in place of proviso? like during her downtime?

cuz even if u can't use fia on proviso she's the best tp worker

cuz otherwise you're literally using a 40% worker in place of a 180%.... just cuz you can't keep the 180% at max uptime

doesn't make sense

[dense crypt]

I mainly want it to sync with the rest of the team, cus I remember I used to run penence and what happens was that she runs out of morale before anyone else did

[astral tiger]

fair enough ig

was just letting you know it's 21hrs if u can manage to remove her in time

[dense crypt]

Archetto is just my highest worker, cus the problem with proviso is that the rotation swap + put in dorm button, doesn't let proviso be the one that gets fia buff, and I don't want to have to manually do that each time, so that was my reasoning

[astral tiger]

doesn't matter if she doesn't get the fia buff

Proviso is your highest worker

by a large margin

[dense crypt]

Oh proviso works in my first team, the high efficiency team

Archetto is part of the backup team

[astral tiger]

ok that's good

[vestal sable]

What's the team again for the archetto one

[dense crypt]

Archetto Lemune Exuai

Wait sorry

No

[vestal sable]

Like both teams sorry

For both tps

[dense crypt]

Lemune Exuai Proviso main team, sub team Vigil Archetto Quarts

[vestal sable]

Other one is Shamare Tequila Bibeak and what's the other team

[dense crypt]

Lappy Texas Jaye

[astral tiger]

texas is e2?

[dense crypt]

No both e0

[astral tiger]

alr

[vestal sable]

Yea should be fine

[orchid bane]

[meager meadow]

real people who find it troublesome to manually replace fia on the right operator for replenish

yare yare daze

[vapid basin]

Rate my base

Fac gold
Weedy passenger purestream (with 3+3 pp)
Bryophyta gravel spot
Rosmontis (40 PI) minimalist haze

Fac exp
95% on all shift

TP
Proviso vigil hoederer
Shamare tequila paprika
Jaye silverash degen (+ gnosis)

Man I'd love to get ebenholz for 60 PI

Anything i can improve?

[scenic gate]

When does Tequila + 2 high gold order chance workers combo become better than a raw productivity team, assuming max level TP?

Trying to see if i can get use out of my E1 Tequila or i should just forget about him until he gets E2

[astral tiger]

those are the percentages

wait no shamare?

[scenic gate]

probably meant for a lower level TP

[astral tiger]

that's lvl 3 tp with shamare

[scenic gate]

or are you asking me?

[astral tiger]

yes I'm asking you

since u said teq + 2 high gold order

[scenic gate]

nope, no shamare. but plenty of high gold chance workers

i thought shamare was a % gold chance worker too

[astral tiger]

it doesn't really benefit having more than 1

[scenic gate]

ah

[astral tiger]

shamare e2 just gives 90% productivity by negating the productivity of other 2 workers

[scenic gate]

that's pretty fricking good yeah..

sad

[astral tiger]

since teq and gold chance workers dont have innate prod, they benefit the most

and yeah, all e2 is essentially a 138% tp prod

with 46% gold prod

[astral tiger]

already used your 5* selector?

[scenic gate]

woah yeah i'm not reaching that with normal workers

[scenic gate]

a long time ago yeah. been playing for half a year but only really got to optimizing the base beyond "yellow operator -> yellow room" now

[astral tiger]

lol, mine was the same case

only started working on the base since few months ago

been playing for almost 2 years

[scenic gate]

at least i discovered this server and followed recommendations in time to grab proviso from the anni selector. singlehandedly carries my economy

[astral tiger]

yeah

wish I could have known earlier tho

stuck with a max right 252

[scenic gate]

i'm on 243 because i'm too stubborn and want to see max levels on all my buildings

still yet to take advantage of max level dorm recovery speed

but yea thanks a bunch for the images

[astral tiger]

I switched to 252 when I noticed proviso inhaling all my gold bars

[astral tiger]

no problem

[astral tiger]

seems fine, u can only make minor improvements from here

which would also take up lot of resources

like thorns2 for bryo team, flametail exp team

or other high end stuff

[round lichen]

Consider switching from XX3 to XX2. With 252 you can have Weedy Purestream in a Lv 2 Fac and cut out Passenger

[queen flicker]

with snegurochka and conviction coming soon i've been adjusting my rotations. because automation works for 2 out of 3 shifts while most of the other facilities work for 3/4, aligning the sub teams and the control center was a bit tricky but i think this rotation does it well. am i missing something or is it ok?

if its not clear, basically the last slot in the control center is either eunectes when automation is up, or umiri (or nyamu during the last shift). and fac 3 and 4 have a secondary sub team when bubble team is already up on fac 5.

[strong summit]

@vestal sable
Those are the results so far and the days before the changes as a comparison.
I got Haze and Greey, still lack e2 Proviso and still searching for Purestream and Conviction

Just fyi and thanks

[hasty tiger]

Conviction is an April fools op so there's not a lot of searching for that one lol

[strong summit]

Banner or free?

[hasty tiger]

Free

Seems like u official is one as well? I'm hoping that means they give out both and not just u official now

[astral tiger]

do u get one before the other or smth

I got conviction but not u official

only got last year april fool

[hasty tiger]

I am not sure. I quit for a while and u official came during that time so I don't know how it works