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[arctic prism]

started looking through, but before that are you 252 or 243? and if you're 243 are you sticking with that or willing to switch over? it has some minor differences in recommendations

70k lmd avg isnt the limit, it's what you should get as a baseline if you own all ops + use proper rotations
there are other things you can do to stretch that higher if you really want to which are very either time consuming or can eat into your xp/gold prod

[void hull]

I'm old school, I always ran 2-4-3 but last time I played was ~2023 for about a month :/

I'm open to switching to 252 I just dont know how I would go about that yet

[vestal sable]

Do u care about lmd or exp more

Lmd income is more or less the same for both but 252 makes more exp

[void hull]

LMD by far, that's my restricting material I have tons of exp from when I played last and not many operators I need to build

[vestal sable]

Yea u don't need to switch to 252 then

[void hull]

What would be the recommendations for 243?

I'm in the process of e2ing tequila but I e2'd shamare and I have bibeak so far and that was one combo I was told I could do

[vestal sable]

U can max all of the other buildings
2 gold 2 exp factories (1:1 gold to trading posts basically)
3 gold 1 exp (or switch one back and forth between gold and exp) for proviso lineups

Do u have proviso

[void hull]

Unfortunately no

[arctic prism]

yea if you dont want to think too hard about switching that's more or less fine
and yeah I was just about to suggest this combo since your main focus is on lmd and you already have bibeak at e1 70 from krooster

[void hull]

Is that the only good combo I can do atm?

[vestal sable]

Then yea that's sorta the big limiting factor, I'll check in a bit and see what ur best options are but just keep an eye out for her if u get a chance

Mine with tequila team + the 3rd (?) best proviso team

Can be minmaxed a bit more with better rotations and a better control center team but I'm lazy

[vernal moss]

Bruh i couldve sworn i got a 4 gold order (no proviso) in a lv2 tp

Is that possible

[vernal moss]

Or maybe it's bc i switched out proviso just before i droned that tp...

Are gold orders alr determined before they're done

[vestal sable]

i believe so, the timer is based on the order size as well i think

i think one strat involves moving tequila to the proviso tp right before droning/collecting as well?

[arctic prism]

From what I can see thats mostly it yeah for combos
Can double check in pin 4 in case I missed anything or for specific units but no other stand outs for lmd specifically
If you want to improve factory you have options like weedy purestream eunectes

[vernal moss]

Oh....dang TIL

[void hull]

For metals? or what resource

[arctic prism]

Yes this is correct

[vestal sable]

im looking through the sheet to find ur next best options for lmd stuff but yea

[arctic prism]

For gold yeah it would be purestream weedy eunectes in your factory and greyy alt in your power plant
Or you could also do purestream weedy passenger in fac, eunectes in cc, greyy alt and a fatigued lancet2 in pp

But these all need e2 (except purestream) so quite expensive

[vestal sable]

they can just wait for sneg and do weedy purestream sneg as well if they eventually plan to build weedy

[arctic prism]

I'd e1 your purestream regardless though, free 40% gold worker

[void hull]

Okay I can do that

Are there any other 4-stars good for base?

[vestal sable]

Trading posts

Tequila Shamare Bibeak
Jaye Lappland Texas
should be ur 2 best teams for trading posts

u want one of these in each post

the secondary ones will be backups while the first ones are resting, just use whatever has the highest numbers ig

prob gonna be sth like gummy midnight catapult

[arctic prism]

https://tinyurl.com/3ybfa66c
Should help
Special tab has cross facility combos, otherwise each facility type has their own tab
Noob tab will be focusing on 4* and below

[vestal sable]

yea look at the noob tab for 4* that are good for base, quartz is notable as well, +34% worker

it costs 34k lmd to e1 a 4* not including other costs and idk the math but i believe earning that back does not take that long

[vestal sable]

**TP1 **
tequila shamare bibeak
Quartz(e1) Yato Mousse

TP2
Jaye Lappland Texas
Gummy midnight catapult

Factory
Gold 1
Byrophyta (so long adele record restoration) Gravel Haze(e0)
Spot (e1) Almond Steward (e1)

Gold 2
Weedy(E2) Purestream (e1) snegurochka (e1) (ideally with greyy alter in the power plant at e2)
Jessica Vanilla Roberta(e1)

Exp 1
Tragodia Conviction(E1) Feater
Vigna Shirayuki Castle-3(lv 30)

Exp2/Gold 3
Vermeil(e1) Ceobe Beanstalk(e1)/cuora/noircorne (e0)
Ptilopsis(e2) Silence(e2) Perfumer(e1)

Notes:
Required promotions in brackets
5* and 6* aren't worth E2ing specifically for base, but if ur gonna E2 those for general use then they work in the slots mentioned above
Totter(e1) and fang/kroos/popukar can all be used in place of factory workers that u dont wanna promote to their respective levels as specified
Weedy and Greyy alter have niche uses in IS3 and IS5 respectively as well as other stuff and are worth building as regular units anyway imo, same goes for E2ing ptilo
Beanstalk is like 1% better than cuora noir corne so if u plan to use her in IS5/IS6 then i would E1 her but otherwise just use one of the other 2
Last factory will remain exp until u get proviso then will either swap to gold permanently or swap between gold and exp as needed

Prioritize droning tequila's TP, once u get proviso drone her TP instead

(actually totter can prob used in place of steward and steward can be moved to take silence's place prob if ur down to e1 totter)

tequila shamare bibeak team at different promotion levels for bibeak/tequila (shamare is always e2 here)

[arctic prism]

such high effort account analysis

all very good and valuable info tailored to your specific account situation

[vestal sable]

i got used to doing it for friends and myself lmao

[arctic prism]

yup, just from a quick read you can tell it's not your first time lmao
I do it for irl friends and occasionally here as well but it does take quite some time and effort each time

also is very dependent on the other person
sometimes they're super picky or stubborn about specific stuff which makes it a lot harder

[vestal sable]

thankfully none of the ones ive helped care that much about their base and just do whatever i suggest lmao

[solar tangle]

@vestal sable , do I need to send in my roster too?

[vestal sable]

same stuff ye?

ill just move stuff around here ig if that's alright

[solar tangle]

Yeaaa

[solar tangle]

Yea that's alr, but make it so my gold income and lmd income are streamlined alot thx.
I want to level up some more ops and lmd is the deciding factor.

[arctic prism]

I think the biggest issue here rn is that proviso is in your lv3 tp instead of your lv2 tp

[solar tangle]

Pls make it so i get alot of gold and lmd, for now i have other sources of exp and getting a bit less doesn't matter as much

[vestal sable]

why is tequila still in ur TP, i thought i told u not to use him until u get shamare lmao

[arctic prism]

the point of using lv2 tp when you own proviso is because she boosts the lv2 tp more than a lv3 one, but lv2 tps are still less efficient than lv3
and yeah tequila shouldnt be working unless you have shamare

[solar tangle]

Idk, i have very less output and my other ops are alr. Usy with other tp 😢

[vestal sable]

they said they were gonna level both to lv 3 eventually but yea i did give them 2 man proviso teams for now to use until their TP goes to lv 3

ill just type it out again to be less confusing ig give me a minute

[solar tangle]

Im literally planning on maxing out the left side of my base once I'm done with the vina victoria event, I just need one more medal lol

[solar tangle]

Plus, I need lmd to get the base to level 3 anyways 😭
So n need to use all my sanity for a week on resources stages and my left side base is maxed.

[arctic prism]

oh ok so your base isnt fully upgraded yet icic
just looked like a standard 252MR at first glance

[hasty tiger]

I wouldn't spend the sanity on lmd to upgrade base faster

[solar tangle]

For reference this is the one you sent be before

[vestal sable]

**TP1 **(level 3)
jaye+SA+matterhorn/courier
gummy+midnight+catapult

TP2(level 2)
Proviso + Mousse
Gitano+Melantha

**TP2 **(when u level it to level 3)
Proviso Exusiai Lemuen
Gitano Melantha Mousse

for the trading posts to make it clearer

[solar tangle]

I'm spending sanity on resources stages and getting lmd from IS and base

[vestal sable]

give me a minute and ill type out the stuff for the factories

[hasty tiger]

Yeah sanity on the like building blocks is fine and normal. Just clarifying don't lmd farm for it

[solar tangle]

Alr

[solar tangle]

Ye i won't, but i have to wait till like tmr to do that, cuz I'm in need of the last medal for the event

[solar tangle]

For me, i have 1tp lv3, 2factory lv 3, rest are level 2

And I'm like 6 weeks ish new

I need lmd to upgrade operators 😭

[arctic prism]

also i would say try not to feel like you need to rush to do this stuff, realistically in the long term it wont make a big difference

[solar tangle]

Tp two is gitiano plus melantha or do I just use one for it?

[hasty tiger]

You say that but you've already got a very strong core. I don't think you're hurting that much for upgrading more

[vestal sable]

both for now sorry

[hasty tiger]

At least not in a despite right now need sense

[solar tangle]

I mean I get where your coming at, but looking at my roster I have civilight still left to build( not cuz she's meta? )
And I have a few fivestara that need their mods and e2 50 for IS aswel,
By getting all the operators I want i can enjoy the game more tho lol

Lmd is the deciding factor rn tbh

[solar tangle]

Hmm alrr

[solar tangle]

Yea, but it gonna take a week of sanity and I'm done with my base, the right side training room and workshop are alr maxed so meh

[hasty tiger]

Why is prov level 50

[solar tangle]

I mean yea

[vestal sable]

prob 5* building event

[solar tangle]

If my 5 stars which are above e1, are not level e2lv50, it hurts my eyes 😭

[solar tangle]

This also

[vestal sable]

**Gold **
Factory1 (lv 3)
bryophyta gravel Haze
Popukar Silence Astgenne

Factory2 (lv3)
Spot Almond Totter
Beanstalk Meteor Quartz

Factory3(lv 2)
Jessica Vanilla
Chestnut Yato

EXP
Factory4(lv2)
Vigna Steward
Cuora Beagle

Factory5(lv2)
Fang Kroos
Cardigan NoirCorne

[solar tangle]

Erm do I have bryophytha?

[hasty tiger]

Free from event

[vestal sable]

so long adele record restoration

[solar tangle]

Which event

[vestal sable]

its in the same section that tequila is in

Power Plants
Greyy + 3 of leizi alter/Indigo/Glaucus/lancet/thrmex (prob include indigo for module trust farm if u ever build her)

Reception Room
Ines Vigil
2 of shirayuki/rope/jackie/may

HR Room
haruka
Ethan/silence alt/aciddrop/orchid/utage (i would do ethan so u can farm trust for his module)

[solar tangle]

Oh dosseles holiday record restore or was it like a side event i hv to unlock?

[vestal sable]

for the other rooms btw

[hasty tiger]

A painful and not optimal path

[vestal sable]

tequila was in dossoles holiday, bryophyta was in another event called so long adele, u might need to unlock it with the weekly mats ye

[solar tangle]

Wait, how to fuck are you talking to me and typing the list at the same time 😭😭

[arctic prism]

yea I guess my point is that to you right now I'd imagine 1M lmd might feel like a lot but eventually it's just gonna be like a speck of dust kind of thing?
so dont need to stress out over trying to squeeze out like a couple thousand lmd over the span of a few days while you wait for upgrades I guess

ctrl+a > ctrl+x probably lol

[vestal sable]

i just copy pasted the other room stuff from earlier since it doesn't look like u made the changes, and reformatted the tp stuff

factory stuff was just shuffling around operators

[solar tangle]

Oh so i won't have her for a Bit, is it possible to replace her for now

[hasty tiger]

Ark learning about base and multitasking

[vestal sable]

bryophyta's a him

just put everyone else in and see what other options u have remaining and put the highest % there for now

[solar tangle]

Lmao, I hope I will reach the point where 1 million lmd feels like nothing lol

[vestal sable]

this is the event for reference

[solar tangle]

Oh damn.
Alr

[hasty tiger]

How could you leave that poor durin unclaimed

[solar tangle]

Ye it's not unlocked lmao

[arctic prism]

you'll get there eventually just takes time
everyone gets there at some point

[vestal sable]

1 mil lmd is like 1 6* from e0 to e2 lv 60 + mod 3

[vestal sable]

i haven't done half of em lmao, the tomimi one was cuz some module unlock needed me to farm it

[solar tangle]

I'm not even two months into the game, ig i should be happy I was able to max out so many ops ig

[solar tangle]

Exactly.
I want to do that every week or sm lmao

Building is like 60 percent of the game for me

[vestal sable]

just spend ur event unlocking things every week until u have them all unlocked btw

[solar tangle]

I want to play with like everyone lol

[hasty tiger]

Wis only fills up 40% of your game desire?

[solar tangle]

I am doing that, I'm also grinding the events too.
I'm saving 300 pulls for sA2 remember?

[solar tangle]

20

[solar tangle]

Bruh I just realised 😭😭

[vestal sable]

whats a wis

[solar tangle]

Wisadel

[vestal sable]

never heard of that

[solar tangle]

Oh lol I see what ur doin

[solar tangle]

Alr, imma go do my base all over again

[vestal sable]

this is what i do for story/event stages anyway (or variants of these)

i only use higher rarity stuff in IS

[solar tangle]

I dare you to do go ex 8 CM with this team.
If u beat it I'll do ch 16 without 6 stars once it comes out.

[vestal sable]

if i dont get lazy sure

[solar tangle]

Lmao

[vestal sable]

i got lazy for the last couple of events

[solar tangle]

Although idt this team can do go ex 8 cm

The boss is waay to hard

[vestal sable]

pretty sure 4* can do ex-8 cm

[solar tangle]

Not the team u mentioned tho

It should be done with ur team btw

The one I sent

[vestal sable]

i dont use the exact same team tho

[solar tangle]

Alr imma go check in my base

[vestal sable]

i shuffle people around based on the stage

[solar tangle]

Anyways I'll redo my base and sent it to you

I hv like 30 min left before i leae

Leave

[vestal sable]

will be some mix of these ig if i dont get lazy

i really should get tequila's module lmao

[hasty tiger]

One day I'll finish building years long roi base ops and level fighting 4/5*

[vestal sable]

i finished vulcan and bryo e2 with the 5* building event lmao i should be good on base ops for a while now

outside of stuff like weedy and dorothy that i was gonna build anyway

[hasty tiger]

Yeah I did the two of them, granted after I finished the event. Also did FEater and uh someone else

Waifuu

[solar tangle]

@vestal sable

For now I used allana instead of bryophytha cuz idh him

So this setup should give me gold AND lmd consistently right?

@vestal sable
This set up is enough for until I start saving up to build my base ops rt?
Cuz after sa2 banner I'll have alot of more operators

[vestal sable]

yea just lmk if u get purestream randomly from recruit or w.e

[solar tangle]

W.e?

[vestal sable]

whatever

[solar tangle]

Alr bet

[vestal sable]

also double checking the 2 star yato is lv 30 right

[solar tangle]

Yes

@vestal sable, dude, also why did u put steward in th exp factory?

He only gives me trading post buffs

Nothing else related to factory

[vestal sable]

needs to be e1

is worth it cuz it doesn't cost much to e1 a 3* and u will use him for IS later anyway

[solar tangle]

Ah alr

I'll do it rn

@vestal sable the rest of the Operators you have considered are e0 right?

Like cuora and stuff

[vestal sable]

lemme double check but should be

[solar tangle]

Alr, lemme know, I'm leaving in like 5 min

[vestal sable]

is spot e1

[solar tangle]

Yes

[solar tangle]

Yes he is

[vestal sable]

should be all then

as long as all of them have base skills that match the rooms we put them in, that should be correct, im pretty sure the other ones either didnt need to be promoted or were already promoted on ur acc but idr

[solar tangle]

Ohk alr.
Let's hope my gold is sustainable and lmd will start racking in

Thx for ur help

If my gold stash is still depleting then I'm fucked

[vestal sable]

u have 3 gold factories, should be fine

4 days to month reset as well and u can buy more from the green cert shop

[solar tangle]

Hmm alr.

[hollow tinsel]

how much does base make nowadays

[heavy palm]

anyone have a base guide with proviso? sample rotations would be nice too

[rigid plume]

Best OrderEff% you can provide

Yep

That's it

[arctic prism]

p much same as before

there hasnt been any big meta changes

[hollow tinsel]

past year got nothing? bit sad then

[arctic prism]

there might have been some like minor improvements? but nothing too noteworthy from my memory at least

[hollow tinsel]

ik what you mean

[round dagger]

Put her in lv2 tp and paired her with your best %

[vestal sable]

sheet is pinned

[heavy palm]

bet

if i use proviso i should run 3 gold and 2 exp fac?

[rigid plume]

How much bars you have now?

[vestal sable]

2 is too little especially if ur droning proviso(optimal) while 3 is a bit over

I'd personally run 3 until u build up a surplus and/or run low on exp and swap back and forth accordingly

Basically have one factory with generic workers like the mizuki team, bubble team, or rhine team

this is 243 but the bubble factory is what im using for this (2nd t eam will be the rhine team once i e2 dorothy)

[heavy palm]

like a little less than 300

i wanna optimize the base to minmax but idk what im doing ngl

[rigid plume]

Less than 100 and you can switch.

Having more 100 isn't profitable either, bars are just standing idle and doing nothing.

[vestal sable]

u can post ur krooster ig and i can try to minmax it for you

252 right? how many tps and factories are lv 2/3

[heavy palm]

https://www.krooster.com/u/frankk

any help would be apprciated!

this is what im running rn 2 gold 3 exp but i can change to whatever needed i just wanna minmax

idm lvling or promoting anyone too

[vestal sable]

e2 tequila for sure, give me a bit lemme type it all up

[vestal sable]

Trading post 1 (lv 2)
Proviso Exusiai
Quartz + any 30% worker

Trading post 2 (lv 3)
Tequila Shamare Bibeak (tequila shamare need e2, bibeak e2 is an increase but idk if it would be worth)
Jaye silverash Melantha

Gold
Factory 1 (lv 3)
Weedy (e2) Purestream (e1) snegurochka (e1, ch 16 new 4*)
Vermeil Ceobe (E2) asbestos

Factory 2 (lv 3)
Bryophyta Gravel(e1) Haze
Spot(e1) almond aroma

Factory 3 (lv 3) (swap between gold and exp)
Bubble Vulcan Bena
Mizuki Perfumer Roberta

EXP
Factory 4 (lv 3)
Conviction FEater Vigna
Shirayuki(e1) Castle 3 (lv 30) Frostleaf

Factory 5 (lv 2)
jessica vanilla
steward (e1) totter

Notes:

• Factory 1 can be purestream + any 2 high efficiency workers for now as u dont have weedy e2 and snegu isn't out yet, prob sth like e1 ptilopsis or popukar/fang/kroos
• Use beanstalk(e1) or cuora/noir corne in place of ceobe until u e2 her

the stuff in the bracket is the stuff you'd have to promote for the set ups

other stuff either doesn;'t need the promotions or u already have them promoted

Power Plant 1
Greyy
Ifrit

Power Plant 2
GoldenGlow
Pudding

HR
Eyja
Haruka

Reception Room
Gitano Vigil
Rope May (works at e0, better at e1)

should cover everything except cc

@heavy palm this should help

[solar tangle]

@vestal sable
The base is working better thx, although I did lose a bit more gold bars, it's still declining lol,

Lmd is coming in, I just claimed like 18 k with drones

So maybe 40k ish

I mean more than 40k

[vestal sable]

U have 3 gold factories right

[solar tangle]

Also big and quick question, do i use the drones for factory?

[vestal sable]

It will eventually go positive yea

[solar tangle]

Yes I do 😌

[solar tangle]

Eventually?

[vestal sable]

If u need gold then drone those factories ig

But otherwise u wanna drone proviso tp as much as possible

[solar tangle]

I mean, I want lmd more 😂

[vestal sable]

U need gold for lmd...

[solar tangle]

Wait, only proviso tp? I just used it on sa tp

Cuz proviso is resting rn

[solar tangle]

I mean...

I'm done with the event now, so the next few days of sanity go direct into resource stage...

[queen flicker]

i've been running 3 gold 2 exp for a while and my gold is stockpiling. so i want to change my rotations so i can "easily" switch between 3 gold or 3 exp. easier said than done lol, here is my attempt (up is 3 gold, down 3 exp):

does it look optimal? any posible change?

[vestal sable]

If proviso is resting use it on tequilas tp or on gold/exp.fact

[solar tangle]

U said not to use tequilla

😢

[vestal sable]

Oh sorry yea I forgot u didn't have shamare, gold/exp factories then

[vestal sable]

I would use weedy as a primary team over the aroma one, she only gets 2 shifts in ur 3 exp

[solar tangle]

Hmm, so hope in a few days gold starts stockpiling 😢

I had 250 before. Whatever happened to all the gold 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[vestal sable]

Prob weedy and bryo teams as primaries in both and the aroma team gets 2-3 shifts based on what setup ur running

[queen flicker]

no mlynar or the likes so greyy alter only works for 2 shifts. automation without greyy is like 90% i believe?

[vestal sable]

Oh

[vestal sable]

252? 100% with snegu I believe but lemme double check my math

[queen flicker]

yeah snegurochka soon

[astral tiger]

sorry, not related to your question but I noticed that u have left side max, did u not max out your TR or did u yeet a dorm

[vestal sable]

Ig eunectes goes down as well with greyyter's shift ending

[queen flicker]

3 dorms

[astral tiger]

💀

is it manageable with staggering

[vestal sable]

Should be with dorm workers

How much is aroma waaifu haze again I forgot

[astral tiger]

should be 110

40 40 30

[queen flicker]

barely. i'm like 2 shifts with full dorms and the other 2 shifts only at like 9 or 10 in dorms

[astral tiger]

oof

[queen flicker]

but thats with a slighty different rotation than the one i've shown

it's not that bad actually (don't ask when i have to craft materials )

aroma is 45 i think

[astral tiger]

🫡

ok yeah I rechecked, aroma is 45

25 with 20% ramp

[queen flicker]

this is the worst shift tho

[astral tiger]

did u try just going with lvl 2 tp for proviso

[queen flicker]

yes but once i got siege i went with proviso + glasgow

[astral tiger]

welp, barely manageable at least

[queen flicker]

i think the dorms shifts are 16, 15, 10, 10

[heavy palm]

any suggestions to replace weedy purestream? idk how i dont have a purestream

[vestal sable]

Put everyone else in and see which factory workers are left

I think u have a purestream tho?

Oh nvm u dont ye

[queen flicker]

you'll get her soon with recruits

[heavy palm]

shes been evading me 😭

[heavy palm]

will try this out, big thanks!! 🙏🏽

[queen flicker]

i just found when 3 exp, i can optimize purestream a bit

is this optimal or am I missing something?

[strong summit]

Quick question, which free side story units should I chase? Solely for base

[rigid plume]

Ceylon and Brohydya

First is Heart of Surging Waves, second is So Long, Adele.

[strong summit]

Do they need e1?

[vestal sable]

the noob section on the sheet has a list of welfares/low rarity, the two they mentioned are the ones you want the most but there's other usable stuff if u need them (lumen for dorm, heavyrain, krooster and lavaalt for cc)

[light widget]

who's the girl in the middle?

[vestal sable]

bryophyta is usable at e0, gets better at e2 but not worth the resource sink especially for new accs so dont bother
ceylon gets all of her value at e0

[vestal sable]

aroma

[rigid plume]

5☆ and higher needs E2 for second Base skill.

And no, they're fine at E0.

[strong summit]

Ye, I mean, solely for base stuff.
Maybe they get a really good second logistics skill or something with e1

Wasn't aware they needed e2...I'm still trying to find the in-game place to check those things

[distant flower]

https://krooster.com/u/player-shadow
@vestal sable

[vestal sable]

yes that's what we meant as well

they dont ALL need e2, they start with a skill at e0 and then the skill gets upgraded or they get an extra one at e2 for 5 and 6 stars or e1 for 3 and 4 stars and lv 30 for 1 and 2 stars

for some of them the relevant skill is available at e0 (ie all of the ones mentioned/in the noob sheet)

[vestal sable]

ayt lemme write this up give me a bit

[strong summit]

My dream would be to find the place to check things like this in-game for the units I own

[vestal sable]

just get used to the wiki, expecting ui changes is asking to be disappointed

that way if it does happen, it'll be a pleasant surprise

[vestal sable]

also

go to #bot-spam , type /base and read that as well

while i type stuff up

[strong summit]

Between wiki and fandom which one should I use?

[vestal sable]

do not use fandom

always use the terra wiki

[strong summit]

Outdated?

[vestal sable]

but basically ur current base setup is 243 and the usual recommended set up is 252, if ur willing to take the extra effort to change to that set up, the combinations will change as well

For now ill just type up combinations for ur current base (243)

[strong summit]

How is the right side of your base btw? Office and etc

[distant flower]

My office is lvl 3 so uh…

[vestal sable]

there;s ways to work around it by using lower level factories etc but id that's too much of a hassle i understand

[distant flower]

I’m not looking for like the VERY optimum but 6.5k LMD daily report is uh….

[vestal sable]

yea gotcha, im typing up the best thing u can prob do with what u have, give me a bit

[distant flower]

What I want is decent, functional and I don’t want to have to touch it other than the notifications to swap presets (and stuff like drone speed ups if I have nothing to use them on I guess)

[vestal sable]

ye ye i dont bother with high effort stuff as well so it'll be easy to swap around and stuff dw

[queen flicker]

ok i'm going to settle with this. this is slighty worse i think (like 5% less on fac 3 gold sub team), but easier to swap between 3 gold or 3 exp when needed

[rigid plume]

Yes. All people migrated from Fandom which it decided to shit their pants with big change or sum.

So most of fanbases are dead now.

[vestal sable]

Trading post 1
Proviso Jaye Quartz (red cert shop, get her to e1)
mousse yato Fang

Trading post 2
Gummy Midnight Catapult
gitano melantha orchid(e1)

Gold
**Factory 1 **
Bryophyta Gravel (e1) purestream (e1)
Noir corne BeagleCardigan
Factory 2
Haze Spot (e1) astgenne
fang kroos Cuora

(EXP but switch to gold if ur running low)
Factory 3
jessica vanilla Steward (e1)
perfumer(e1) roberta (E1) Ptilopsis (ideally at e2)

EXP
Factory 4
Vigna Shirayuki(e1) Frostleaf (e1)
Tragodia Totter Popukar

Notes

• E1s recommended for 3* and 4* as listed since they dont cost too much and are worth it long term
• 5* and 6* need e2 for the base skill upgrade, only recommended for ptilopsis at some point cuz ur gonna use her long term, still works at e1
• Factory 4 swap tragodia with anyone from the factory above when he's e2

[astral tiger]

bro is doing god's work 😭 🙏

[merry gulch]

I'm not OP but thank you so much for this summary, will copy and read it properly later

[vestal sable]

u can just post ur own krooster if u want specific advice or refer to the base guide

[vestal sable]

Power Plant
Greyy

Indigo

pudding (red cert shop)

for the main ones, secondary ones are whatever u have at the highest %

Reception room
ines vigil
rope may

HR
Haruka and eyja when they're e2 for now use whatever is highest, should be ethan and another one like orchid or whoever

should cover every room except the cc

@distant flower

[oak wedge]

Speaking of are there any good combos the Google doc is missing? Like collab combos and such

[vestal sable]

they get updated as they come out (u can check the new tab)

the things the sheet doesn't have are the less efficient combos

[oak wedge]

Ic

[vestal sable]

like for example anything below 25% isn't shown here but

if ur on a newer acc u might be forced to use some of them

[last iron]

Can anyone recommend a rotation for CC?
This is my current one

[oak wedge]

I'm not that new but not old enough to have many of the kernel units

So hoshi2 is only good with Swire it seems

And only wys to get her is recruit?

[hasty tiger]

Amiya does the same thing as swire. I want to say there is one other version of the effect too

[vestal sable]

its more for the lgd units to stack for hoshi alter's other base skill

[vestal sable]

for the factory buff yes but i dont have swire and still use hoshi alt for the training speed

ofc it depends on what u have whether she's worth the slot or not

[hasty tiger]

Right yeah

[oak wedge]

One of my gold factories run at 76% , it's probably not worth at all going for a bubble team without ceobe and I'd need to E2 vulcan right?

I don't own either of the lgd cc ops so hoshi2 don't do anything for me :')

[obsidian ore]

Is there somewhere a reference report on what the best report looks like? Like how much LMD and EXP daily for a completely optimized base?

[jaunty notch]

it depends on setup, roster and even shift rotations, but generally you'd want 100k resources a day

[rigid plume]

At least 40k LMD you should produce to have on everything - that includes leveling ops, crafting and modules.

Daily.

[jaunty notch]

but yeah there's a benchmark i guess

but since people mostly follow combos already, they're confident enough to know they're going on the right path instead of focusing too much on daily report

I'd say 30k xp and 50k lmd is good

maybe 25k xp even

since you need to have an equivalent amount of gold compared to lmd income

including the bonus bars from other sources

[obsidian ore]

Ok so currently I have a few combos going on and im producing around 55k lmd + 35k exp. So I guess this is optimized enough and I shouldn't worry about it?

[rigid plume]

It's basically mine results.

[oak wedge]

What's the best report card you've seen that is somewhat consistent

[obsidian ore]

Nice
thank you guys

[wet bramble]

Guys is there anything I can do to better understand rotations??? I cant wrap my head around it at all.

[oak wedge]

You mean the rotate feature, or the concept?

[wet bramble]

The concept. I think the feature kinda makes sense, I just don't know why I can't put one operator in multiple presets.

[hasty tiger]

You can

It just can't be attempting to use that op in multiple facilities at once

[oak wedge]

What he said. I stagger some of my presets to save dormitory space as well

So for a 3 set it can look like
A B C
A B D
C E D , so at one swap two op go to dorms instead of 3

Usually I log on and rotate morning and evening , so twice a day at least

[hasty tiger]

You can also have a dedicated team that goes between two facilities to let them sleep but on different cycles

[oak wedge]

Go on

How does that work for example?

[hasty tiger]

Facility 1 over a 36 hour period could be
DEF
ABC
ABC
And facility 2 would be
GHI
DEF
GHI

I use it when I don't have enough substitutes to make a rotation like you described worthwhile

[oak wedge]

Does a team normally last 24 hrs and take 12 to recoup?

[hasty tiger]

I mean that'll depend on who you're using. I don't personally use any teams that can't last 24 at least

There's some people like totter who are best within their first 12 hours so you'd use them as an E like in your example

But even your rotation system requires AB to last 24 hours

And even level 1 dorm 12 hours should be enough to recover

[oak wedge]

I think the base overall is -0.25, -0.4 x 2 during my cc rotations

[astral tiger]

as long as your cc is fully staffed and there is no extra morale reduction in your teams, they will last 32hrs minimum

[oak wedge]

In one example rotation a guy has shamare tequila for all 3 rotations, how does that work

[queen flicker]

isn't 37hrs in a lvl 3?

[hasty tiger]

Fiametta is an operator with a dorm skill that lets her trade moral with someone put in dorm with her

Which means that over 36 hours she can recover 3 different people to full

Meaning you can keep proviso/shamare/tequila working 24/7

[oak wedge]

Oh

Sounds tedious

[hasty tiger]

I mean it's the same as rotations were talking about

You just have to manually clear a dorm and place fia and the op you want swapped with

It's on the same schedule so not a big deal unless those 30 seconds are tedious

[oak wedge]

Those 30s are game changing

[hasty tiger]

New generation will never understand the pain of spending hundreds of sanity on 1-7 manually restarting every time instead of x6

[oak wedge]

Can't imagine farming rocks back then

[hasty tiger]

It's legitimately why I quit for two years

I meet so many people who say they quit over rotating people in base manually but I think about thehours having an annihilation open to fail randomly or farming rocks and am just like... The base? The base is what did you in?

[oak wedge]

how new is the anni repeat function

[hasty tiger]

I think we had just gotten the anni proxy things when I quit

The x6 for levels came after that by another year or something

[oak wedge]

I started some months before base rotation got added

Maybe half a year a year?

[last iron]

Can anyone recommend a rotation for CC?
This is my current one

[astral tiger]

yes, but I didn't include the level

like regardless of lvl they will work for 32hrs at least

will be more depending on lvl

[severe rose]

Fellas, is getting Shamare and Tequila e2 my best options?

I have the Lemuen/Exalter/Ambriel combo

And Paprika, Mitm and Firewhistle for the other one

This is for lvl 3 trading post

My lvl 2 Trading post is Proviso + Vigil/Quartz

[pallid isle]

shamare tequilla combo for tp is the best for the level 3

~~unless your doing cursed which then its not ~~

also regular exu is better then exu alt with lemuen but if you don't have her don't worry about it

[gritty cedar]

So I'm a new player. Is it bad if I've already leveled my hr office to 2? I just saw the base command

[arctic prism]

welcome to the land of permanent account damage

[gritty cedar]

Level 2 sorry. But yes still Perma damage 🙁

Is 252 still most optimal?

[pallid isle]

how new are you

because if you like "just started" i would consider reroll unironically

like newest of new

[gritty cedar]

Umm like a week or so game time

I rather not reroll tbh

[pallid isle]

its fine

just don't upgrade it anymore then and leave rr alone as well and you will have a solid 252 base

[gritty cedar]

What is rr

Oh reception room?

[pallid isle]

reception room

[gritty cedar]

Wait sorry. My rr is lvl 1. Should I not level it at all now?

[pallid isle]

keep it at that level

[gritty cedar]

Ok thank you

[wind otter]

hi, how do I downgrade elevators?

[wet bramble]

I actually really like this. How has it worked for you so far?

[hasty tiger]

Works well. Like I said I use it on teams where I don't have the DE substitutes that would let me do a rotation

When i rotate my cc there will be stragglers who don't get a dorm slot but I get on more than just the 2 times 12 hours apart so it's fine for me

[heavy palm]

can some1 explain the fiametta proviso tech?

[cloud tide]

why no downgrade

[oak wedge]

right side building cant be downgraded

[oak wedge]

dont know the specifics but think its basically that she sleeps for other operators. so when shes at full morale she can exchange it with someone else

[jaunty notch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM7PmvBdLDM

[vestal sable]

Without ceobe is fine, bena e0 is the same, e2 vulcan is the big difference maker

[vestal sable]

2.5 * exp + gold , high end ones hit around 190-200

Mine is around 150-160

[arctic prism]

I've been off my game since the new year so rn looks worse than this but these are from when I was on top of my shit last year and logging longer term results

[pallid isle]

i still don't understand how your getting that much lmd unless my rng is just that bad?

[arctic prism]

this is complete endgame 252MR setup using cursed proviso (albeit with like 30% fuck up rate)
also wack rotations not 12 hr rots

[pallid isle]

i always hear about 70+ and its like i am doing cursed as well but still don't quite get much more then 71 average when doing so

how many slots do you have though in your setup

[arctic prism]

im maxed right so

one lv2 tp one lv3

i think for curse the lmd fluctuation is pretty high depending on how long your curse for + how many times you miss it

[pallid isle]

in fairness i miseed once yesterday

[heavy palm]

damn

[pallid isle]

that 57 is so rough though like

its so weird

[arctic prism]

seems about right tho
probably claimed more orders on the 23rd than on the 24th

[heavy palm]

do u guys mind sharing ur rotations? im curious how does one get to 70k

[pallid isle]

my shit is mega cursed so

but i can share in a bit yeah

[arctic prism]

my rots arent really on paper anymore

it's also mega cursed

[pallid isle]

i am kinda winging it myself

i need to do better with my usage of thorns alt gladia timings/fia use on gladia

[arctic prism]

yea it's more of like a flow chart for rather than strict rotations lol

[pallid isle]

i can make this better with those alone

i am gonna have to write down myself thinking on it so i will ping you later when i write everything down and with some notes

but for a general template that i used to get started

you can remove jessica becuase dorothy is about the same and run other stuff

when cursing use delphine and the glasglow trio

[arctic prism]

mine's pretty similar to this one from gato just with more awkward timings bc i made it tailored to my irl schedule https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SixW_LMuizJ-fOlRuytX623dP0-bVWfxtaM8WwYpYRQ/edit?gid=1187734891#gid=1187734891

[pallid isle]

yeah i have level 1 office so i get away with more stuff

and somehow cho is just more cracked

[arctic prism]

dam

[pallid isle]

[arctic prism]

but yea for reference my rotation timings are 5/6/6/7 on weekdays and 8/8/8 on weekends

[pallid isle]

having to muti fia gladia over and over

just to make her last longer

[arctic prism]

nah i dont bother fia glad she makes fia dead for too long

i just fia the other fac workers lol

[pallid isle]

it might not even be optimal

idk

cuz it means i only fia gladia and waaifu

but better then proviso and tequilla so

saves me some

[heavy palm]

holy

[arctic prism]

yea i dont think fia gladiia is worth

[pallid isle]

its jusans rotation

[arctic prism]

drains way too fast

[pallid isle]

so shoutouts to him

but yeah its what i used as a base template and i have some off hand not written down differneces

[heavy palm]

so this is like a rotation every 12 hrs?

[light widget]

which is more valuable in a 252 max right, +6%tp or +2%fac?

[arctic prism]

generally the +7% for all tps
im assuming you're talking about the cc skills

[pallid isle]

yes

feel free to not use gladia if your doing pure 12 hours

gladia replaces all those jessica times

[light widget]

well, here's the context, either I swap out mutsumi for kalt or stay like this

I have Glasgow and vigil for tp

[arctic prism]

correct me if im wrong but if you remove mutsumi doesnt your passion tank

i havent touched the ave mujica people for base so i dont remember specifics

[light widget]

mutsumi is just +10 so it won't hurt sakiko further, but ill lose her +6%tp (at 50 passion) if i swap kalt for the 2% fac

sakiko will remain +3% fac regardless of mutsumi or kalt, I just want to know if which is much worth

[arctic prism]

just double checked, mutsumi is passion +20

but either way I think for the actual question you had when comparing tp% to fac% it's kind of up to you what you want out of base

[light widget]

oh fk, its umiri whos 10

nvm then

[heavy palm]

do ppl really e2 mr. nothing for base?

[light widget]

I really hate them adding more terms in the base skills such as passion, WR, etc.

[arctic prism]

like in theory if you compare raw percentages tp% usually wins out (it's just easier to get higher%s for tp + there's also multipliers like proviso and tailoring/tequila to consider)

but if you all in on lmd you're inevitably going to run out of exp

so need to find the correct ratio that you usually use and try to match that

[light widget]

ye, tp wins this time, vigil on prov then gg team is fk the fac

[arctic prism]

yea lol

most of the high end teams require e2s for most of the 5 and 6*s

it's just that after a certain point you kinda run out of "useful" people to level that you're going to use for gameplay (barring self imposed challenges) so you end up doing shit like e2ing people just for the sake of base

[orchid bane]

Sham team and prov are 5* tho

[heavy palm]

yea makes sense

i wanna be a pro base maxxer

[arctic prism]

tbh just from being aware of rotations + actually managing your base you're probably within the top percentile of ak players for base usage lmao

like the bar is very low

[heavy palm]

i only click the auto rest rn tbh

nothing manual

[arctic prism]

makes sense

[vestal sable]

the rots are pretty tryhard + require specific operators as well that u prob dont have

its not worth building units specifically for base cuz the base exists to give u resources to build units u want, kinda counterproductive to make it more efficient but losing more mats over building units

u only do this for 4* and lower and the 3 important 5* (proviso and tequila + shamare) and for units u were gonna build anyway (like say im gonna build weedy anyway so i can take advantage of the weedy team soon)

[vestal sable]

and yea its pretty much this

[heavy palm]

yea ik i came back last hoshialt after 3 yrs so i dont got most units

[vestal sable]

this is what i do as well, the teams that i give out are typically ones that don't need to be manualed or manualed as much + dont require too much investment

[vestal sable]

yea im missing a lot as well cuz i started last april with lapp alter

just a matter of minmaxing what u do have

i took advantage of the 5* building event to build base operators like vulcan and bryophyta

since i didnt have any 5* i needed to build for combat

i just made a simple sheet to keep track of where im at

[heavy palm]

yea im just bored and got noone to build rn i think thats why im looking for someone to raise 😂

[vestal sable]

i think i had weedy and ceobe as e2s for your list yea?

weedy team when ch 16 drops in a month or so and u get snegurochka will be the best gold team in the game pretty much

assuming u also have greyy alter

115% efficiency on 252 and 130% on 243

the next best is e2 thorns alt + e2 bryo + e1 at 116%

[heavy palm]

yea i alrdy e2'd ceobe and teq

idk if ill e2 weedy just yet cause i dont have purestream 🤣

[heavy palm]

and no..

MY ACCOUNT IS BRICKED

[solar tangle]

@vestal sable

The gold is going in the positive

Although maybe it's because i didn't use proviso or sm

I switched into proviso just now

Let's see what happens

Also i peaked to 60k lmd some how

I need to use all the lmd at once and stop pouring it into an operator the second i get some lmd

😢

[arctic prism]

the daily reports for lmd are dependent on how many things you claim on that day, rather than how much is actually produced by the base
so if today's looks abnormally high, odds are that the yesterday's or tomorrow's reports will be lower

[arctic prism]

it's why to get a proper evaluation of how much your base is making, you need to either actually calculate the theoretical yield for your base rotations, or do a long term analysis like in here or both

[solar tangle]

Hmm alr

[solar tangle]

Ak makes sense, but I'm still a pretty new acc, i need to finish building one last 6 star, then i can focus on my five stars

Base ops too

[vestal sable]

does this work if mizuki is in one factory and highmore is in another

like say mizuki + dorothy + silence alt and highmore + wildmane + ashlock

[rigid plume]

It's written above, bruh

[vestal sable]

this wording is confusing cuz they implied that mizuki + highmore in the same factory

[pallid isle]

PS doesn't have to be in the same factory

mizuki does

highmore does

[vestal sable]

gotcha so mizuki + highmore need to be in the same, the PS ones can be in diff

thanks

[pallid isle]

yeah so the idea is you do mizuki highmore PS in one

then 2 PS + something else in another

[vestal sable]

Lemuen Exu alter ambriel should be 105% right? (45% from lemuen + exusiai, 30% from 2 laterano for ex alt, 30% from ambriel)

feels weird that its not on the base combo sheet

ig since most people would use the og over her and dont have setups where both the og and her are used

[pallid isle]

becuase your beter off well yeah you said it

lemuen exu + a 40% is best

for 120%

[jaunty notch]

because exu alt is straight up worse than og exu

less numbers, more requisites

[vestal sable]

yea it just so happens that for my specific units that team would be the best backup team if i switched to 252 but ig that wouldn't be the case on most accounts

if i did this specifically

cuz i dont have the other 40% workers

also prob worth considering since people who don't build just for base prob won't have og exu built

[jaunty notch]

and yes it's implied both verbally and through the dotted line that highmore mizuki must be in the same FAC

[jaunty notch]

this is a misconception, but og exu is very strong still

[vestal sable]

yea its just more of opportunity cost (ie she prob isn't worth the material cost of a 6* vs raising other 6* at least for people with limited resources)

i have her built but ive seen accounts that prob wouldn't wanna build her over other units but do have lemuen and exu alter built so building ambriel should be a cheap enough ask for a +105% team

also for newer accounts (like say people who started on exu alter + lemuen's banner) they might not even have the og after all

weird thing ig cuz it wouldn't quite belong in the noob category

but it also wouldn't be for an optimal acc that has everyone else

[light widget]

Vina is not Glasgow?

[pallid isle]

vina is alter faction

all alters are part of alter faction and NOT part of other factions/don't count

[rigid plume]

Wrong, it's not always the case.

Jessica Alter is an example.

[rigid plume]

But indeed, she's inside Victoria, isolated from the Glassgow.

[pallid isle]

i never knew that thats wack

but irrelevant since he counts himself and your never using almond without the jessica and vanillia elsewhere. thats probbly why i never noticed

wait no she doesn't count

just checked and it doesn't

also just noticed the base sheet says she doesn't

[rigid plume]

Maybe I had partical blindness once more.

Nope.

[pallid isle]

well yes its gonna be listed there

[rigid plume]

But anyway, another example.

[pallid isle]

yes alters are listed there

but if you check the skills

there not

[rigid plume]

[pallid isle]

hoshi alt is not going to give chen more morale for example

'

actually i did however just realize i suppose almonds skill does say anywhere in base

so you could have a 31% worker with the others in tr/ws

doing everything in my power to not run marcille

[orchid bane]

Oh only Hoshi2 have LGD related skill. So she is still there, while swire2 chen2 ch3n all gone

[vestal sable]

silence alter is not rhine lab even tho silence is

[pallid isle]

hence what i said

[vestal sable]

oh i misread

[pallid isle]

[strong summit]

I'm assuming that by end game a TR3 is necessary, right? So what 252 people tend to do?
I suppose F33322 is reasonable enough based on the pinned chart

[rigid plume]

One is Lv3

Another can be Lv2

It's better that way if you have Proviso.

[astral tiger]

you can downgrade a factory (or tp if u have proviso) or u can yeet a dorm if u want to keep left side maxed

and yes tr3 is important

[orchid bane]

You could try m2 1st

Not many OPs have skill breakpoint at m3 I think

Till the point that you want m3 so bad

[strong summit]

I just started and honestly I don't even have enough units to run 5 lvl3 Factories properly. Putting 2 on lvl2 might be healthy in many ways for me I guess

[astral tiger]

U can simply put 2 units instead of 3 in a lvl 3 fac

[pallid isle]

ok i made something that i am working on again but it for sure needs a hella lot of help and work https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M920k8Zp7APAcndcn0R5EpzAIuxm5ymCOa4N845YTEU/edit?usp=sharing

again its more like

a flow chart of ideas

gladia when you can

glasglow when you can

run ah as much as possible with gladia

[astral tiger]

or rather, just put 2 units with the base skill and some random unit that doesn't have a good skill anywhere else

with a lvl 3 fac u have more capacity and with 3 occupied units u have less morale loss

there isn't a benefit to downgrade to lvl 2 just cuz u don't have enough units

on the contrary it's only demerits for downgrading for that reason

[pallid isle]

it helps morale even if you just throw someone random in there

[astral tiger]

exactly

with 2 units it's innate -0.05, with 3 it's -0.1

so unless you're downgrading to free up power, it's not worth

[modern atlas]

https://www.krooster.com/u/shibauuuu_ can someone build me a team for fac and trade pls. i am running random bullshit go for everything

[strong summit]

Ye I'm just thinking that putting a factory or two on 2* wouldn't be thaaat bad at the end of the day, to open energy for the TR3

[astral tiger]

it's fine if you're doing it to open up energy

although I'd wait till u get some m2's on ops

don't downgrade till then

even later on when u get proviso, u can downgrade a tp to lvl 2 and bring the fac up

[strong summit]

Ye, I just did my first mastery, might take a while for the next step, I just wanted to already leave my base at the final version of it

[dim mantle]

Here’s my base

https://www.krooster.com/u/cute-magenta-jackal-7802
anything I should change?(note, I am about to E1 vernall once I get sniper chips since I don’t have any at the moment)

Oh yeah, I also Just got base 5 and my third factory honestly slipped my mind

My bad there

[pallid isle]

swap to 252

don't upgrade office

[vestal sable]

Show both teams for ur rotations maybe, I'll be able to check in a bit if you still want feedback

[dim mantle]

Ah, got it

[pallid isle]

its hard for me to give exact reccomendations since your new but also might look again in a bit

e1 purestream though to start

[dim mantle]

Here ya go

I can get the last factory upgraded, just am out of drones

[dim mantle]

Sorry if what I have is Extra shit

[strong summit]

Do we have any free units from side stories that can work on Power Plants?

Or even good ones for Factory

[astral tiger]

bryophyta from so long adele record restoration

[dim mantle]

And that’s an hour of waiting

[vestal sable]

check the noob tab on the sheet

[vestal sable]

sorry i got busy, will check now

[dim mantle]

Thx

[vestal sable]

also are u willing to swap to 252 like the other guy mentioned

or do u just want teams for 243

[strong summit]

That helped a lot, thanks!

[vestal sable]

i said this yesterday too xD but ig u missed it

but glad it helped

[solar tangle]

@vestal sable quick question, the base assistants only log in how much lmd I claim before the day resets right?

[vestal sable]

i believe so yes

[solar tangle]

So, if I were to claim some lmd in the morning, but forget to claim the lmd before the game resets, it will show very less claimed compared to the day before right?

I just claimed like 20k lmd 😭
I forgot to claim it before the game reset, so now it shows less.

But I'm getting around 52 k day!!

I just claimed like 20k rn 😭

@vestal sable so my base is done right?

I'm getting 50k plus a day

[vestal sable]

should be the best u can do for now

[solar tangle]

So 50 k a day is good right?

On avg for a new acc?

[solar tangle]

Welp thx for ur help

I don't need to work on my base anymore ig

[queen flicker]

working on base never ends

[dim mantle]

Fuck, sorry I missed this, but 243

[solar tangle]

😭

[modern thunder]

How do I 243?

Only found 252 in pins

[vagrant blaze]

pushing the 252 agenda

[rigid plume]

Just level up everything

That's all.

You sure you want 243 tho?

[modern thunder]

Yes, i upgraded office anyway

[rigid plume]

252 max right still > 243 on production
Are you REALLY sure?

[modern thunder]

But for 252 you need to swap every 12 hour? I cant do that

[rigid plume]

Alr, fair

Just build 3 Powerplants

It's enough to power up whole maxed out base

[modern thunder]

ok i have that

[rigid plume]

Then that's all

Just max everything eventually

No special actions required

[modern thunder]

so im done? aside from the levels

[rigid plume]

Yep

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1454121523156619446/beandance.gif

[modern thunder]

and what if i want to farm orundum?

[rigid plume]

I'm not an expert on that, but I guess you just switch all Factories to Orundum shard craft.

And TP to Orundum trade

[modern thunder]

ok got it thanks

[astral tiger]

wont u have to login within 12hrs anyways to not overcap the facs?

[orchid bane]

Stack up your lmd and rock from 1-7
Change a fac to shards Stack up Shards from resources above
Change a TP to exchange shards

If you want to login more than 12hr. Better find cap OP. Like myrtle .....

[modern thunder]

I think I need to use operators that increase de maximum then

[astral tiger]

fair enough

[orchid bane]

Yeah. Stop working the the worst thing here, if your shift is more than 12hr.

Better find all the cap op

[vestal sable]

Trading post 1
Jaye (DO NOT PROMOTE HIM) Texas Lappland
Gummy Midnight Catapult

Trading Post 2
Quartz(E1) Yato Mousse
Gitano Melantha Orchid

Gold
Factory 1
Bryophyta Gravel Haze
Vanilla Jessica Perfumer

Factory 2
Spot Purestream(e1) Steward
Totter Popukar Roberta (e1)

EXP
Factory 3
Frostleaf Shirayuki Vigna
ptilopsis Astgenne silence

Factory 4
Vermeil(e1) Beanstalk Noir Corne/Cuora
Fang alter Fang Kroos

**Notes: **

• Stuff to promote is noted in the brackets
• Tequila Shamare Kafka(dont promote kafka) will go to trading post 2 and the quartz team will move down once u have tequila and shamare E2. Dont bother using this team of these if shamare is not e2.
• When u get proviso the teams will move around again, just lmk if/when that happens.
• Jaye gets worse at e1 so leave him at e0

[dim mantle]

Got it!

[vestal sable]

Power plants
Greyy
Indigo

Lucilla
Lancet

Pudding
Confess

(if u have anything better than 10% they can replace the secondaries)

HR
Any 2 of ethan/utage/orchid unless u have something higher but idt u do

Reception room
Vigil + May
Rope + whatever else has the highest percentage (if u have literally nothing use a random e2 6*)

Notes:

• Move Vigil to pair with rope and put gitano with May in team 1 when u replace the gitano team in the trading post

[dim mantle]

Ok

[vestal sable]

also u might be missing some units like bryophyta (so long adele record restoration) that u can hunt down, just lmk if ur not sure where x or y unit is if its on the list and u dont have them

as for control center,

Team 1: Full Ave Mujica Band
Team 2: Amiya + Hoshi alter + lava alter + kroos alter + hibisicus alter
U can swap amiya with a 5th alter and u lose the 7% trading posts buff in exchange for the team not losing morale if u wanna be lazy and not swap the cc teams ever

[dim mantle]

Alrighty

[dim mantle]

I am indeed missing Bryo

And proviso, if it wasn’t obvious

[orchid bane]

You don't have free 5* or didn't use it for her ?

[dim mantle]

Didnt use it for her

I uh

Wasnt in the server when I started

[orchid bane]

[dim mantle]

Nor did I know proviso Existed

I just saw Lapp and went, “Ooh she’s neat looking”

[vestal sable]

if u started after the anniversary, she wasn't an option

[orchid bane]

There are so many mistakes that newbie can make

[vestal sable]

the only free ticket that has her was given out before the anniversary in jan

[dim mantle]

I started during masses travels

[hasty tiger]

Is the full band actually better than amiya+hoshi?

[vestal sable]

oh

[vestal sable]

amiya + hoshi is just 7% to tp + 5% to TR

it is actually not that high

[orchid bane]

Lately In my region group there are ton of newbie questions

[orchid bane]

What is Amiya Hoshi do ? Lol

You are talking about Swire Hoshi2 right ?

[hasty tiger]

Yes hoshi alt+swire is what I actually run but I'm just curious about the choice

[orchid bane]

Take Hoshi2 swire and Umiri

[hasty tiger]

I don't really know the value the rr and hr additions make

[orchid bane]

And that is way better than full band

[vestal sable]

not relevant, the point is that amiya is only 7% to training posts and hoshi is only 5% to training room without swire for them

but u prioritize tp and fac productivity over all if ur asking for ur own acc

[orchid bane]

Well he said he use swire hoshi2 already

And I just realize Hoshi2 also have Ascalon skill

[hasty tiger]

I knew somewhere in my head swire made hoshi alt better but I didn't remember what it was adding. I thought she had value alone

[rigid plume]

And Swire is LGD

[vestal sable]

ye

[strong summit]

Aside from an op slot and 15 friend slots, what else do we get by upgrading RR to 3?

[vestal sable]

2% per level to clue finding efficiency

[rigid plume]

Third SupportUnit slot.

Oh you said

Ummm.

[strong summit]

I'm thinking if it's worth it to leave it as 2

[rigid plume]

If you main 252, absolutely.

[strong summit]

But probably I'm not seeing RR's value due to having...not many friends...

[rigid plume]

You can just add randoms with useful ops.

[vagrant blaze]

nobody has friends
they're all clue slaves

[rigid plume]

[strong summit]

God bless #friend-id , literally the last 2 just talked about clues

[oak wedge]

Best buddies for that max pot niche op

[strong summit]

I saw on the sheets that Lava2 can help with PP and I went all happy to her side story to get her
Only to realize that she will need e2 for that...

[strange tapir]

do you lose anything from operator morale being so low but not 0?

like 1/24

[rigid plume]

No. He needs to be Exhausted with Red filter.

0/24 may not be exact Exhaust state until red filter appears.

[strange tapir]

i see, thanks

[fervent pier]

does tequila go to lvl 2 tp or lvl 3 tp?

[hasty tiger]

Tequila goes where shamare is, which is the lvl3

No shamare e2, no use tequila

The lvl2 tp is dedicated to proviso + highest % production you can manage

[fervent pier]

thanks

what abt jaye? who should he be paired with if i dont have texas lapp duo

[hasty tiger]

The pinned combo sheet has that

[charred flax]

Quick question, should I upgrade factories first or spend sanity resources in cleaning

[junior falcon]

is, a 3TP base a thing?

[arctic prism]

not really
you dont make enough gold to support it, and even if you do it makes your exp income 0 which you might not think is an issue now but will come back to bite you later

[junior falcon]

I see, thanks

[pallid isle]

my triple gold factory and 2 tp set up is sitting at negative gold bars (literally have a couple orders right now unable to fill)

so i am sorta forced to throw some drones at the factories right now

[remote bison]

what the fuck

what did i do

[vestal sable]

collected 23rd's orders at the start of the 24th and then collected 25th's orders near the end of the day?

[remote bison]

no

my taps are consistently the same time frame

except yesterday being 6 hours off

[arctic prism]

idk what to say other than your base report completely contradicts this statement lol

[pallid isle]

not a bad average though

67 roughly

exp looks a tiny bit low though but idk what your using/can use

[hasty tiger]

Very weird it's only an irregular event with lmd though.

[faint stone]

Is Ave Mujica band works in RIIC?

[arctic prism]

factories properly track based off of what's produced rather than what's claimed. it's just tps that are jank like that, likely just to cover the case where you dont have enough gold to actually complete the order

[arctic prism]

they work decently well if you dont have any better options but there are lots of strong cc workers

[mossy moat]

I am fia reloading shamare, teq, prov.
while swapping out kafka / nothing for bibeak / vigil, every 36h in tandem w running dragons in cc

is this inefficient?

[hasty tiger]

Oh weird

[hasty tiger]

Nope that should be right. Sham/tequila/prov are the important pieces. Kafka and bibeak are equivalent and you'd resent bibeak ramp with fia swap

I think you could place Kafka/bibeak in the first spot of your setup to prevent breaking their ramp up though

Iirc changing slots will set them back to base

[mossy moat]

huh?

wym i dont understand

what does placing them in the first spot of base setup have to do with ramp up

[hasty tiger]

So when you fia swap shamare and tequila it disturbs their spot

And they will reset their time worked

[mossy moat]

wait what

it works like that?

they keep their ramp up if they stay in the same slot?

[hasty tiger]

That's what I remember anyway. Someone could correct me if im hallucinating or it changes

[mossy moat]

uh that sounds rly weird

idk if thats right, but im sure you know more about base than I

[hasty tiger]

Also to be running nothing you have the other wp people in place?

He need setup to be any good

[mossy moat]

Ling CHongus, Dusk

are there any other wp ops that im missing?

im using Ling Chongus Dusk Saileach Amiya

[hasty tiger]

I don't use the setup so you'd have to refer to the combo chart. I'm just double checking because some people just see him under prov on the tp section and gloss over the rest

[mossy moat]

ye

[steady spoke]

my shits chopped how can i fix

[mossy moat]

@dense dagger can we get confirmation pls

[hasty tiger]

I only searched one key phrase but this starts to confirm it #r-i-i-c message at least how I'm interpreting it they're asking about tequila in slot 3 not disturbing the other two

[vestal sable]

U can just refer to the base sheet which also clarifies rhis

[mossy moat]

yea idky i didnt think to just that

[mossy moat]

thank you

[mossy moat]

uh which sheet?

nevermind found it

[vestal sable]

@steady spoke can u post it here as well, ill take a look in a bit and give u stuff

[steady spoke]

https://www.krooster.com/u/shark

[mossy moat]

does it rly make that big a difference for profits...? keeping them in the same slot

@vestal sable with fia reloading, does my base report look under the profit curve? or is am i chillin?

252 im droning xp

[steady spoke]

these are the ops im using. preset 1 and 2. 3 gold 2 exp

[vestal sable]

its only relevant if u do the thing where u swap tequila to proviso's tp before u drone the orders

then swap him back

[hasty tiger]

I believe the math for bibeak ramp is on the combo sheet

[vestal sable]

if u dont do this then it doesn't affect anything i believe

but if u are doing that then u want tequila in the 3rd slot yes

[hasty tiger]

Shamare has some small ramp that's less important but exists

[hasty tiger]

This is mine but drone prov

I actually have bibeak on the off cycle and keep poz and tuye as the primary ones

Run 2 gold atm till I'm lower but 4 durin in base

[vestal sable]

ill look in a few mins btw

[mossy moat]

i was landing pretty damn close to these numbers when droning prov, but i had to swap to 3xp 2gold cus im running a bit lower on gold than i'd like so i stopped droning prov

besides, isnt teq the one that gets the most out of droning?

[hasty tiger]

Prov was new tech when I came back like a month ago after a break and everything I've seen was drone prov so I do lol

[mossy moat]

ah gotchya

[arctic prism]

For this, there isnt enough data to see how exactly the ramping curves look so we cant calculate an exact number on how much you lose, and even the numbers that we use right now are estimates based on data collected a while back both here and in CN
But if we assume a linear ramp + assuming your ramp resets every time you rotate (every 12 hrs), that would probably end up in a net loss of a couple thousand lmd per day

by "assuming your ramp resets each time you rotate" I mean if you rotate similar to the following example:
1st shift: shamare/teq/bibeak
2nd shift: teq/bibeak/shamare
3rd shift: bibeak/shamare/teq

it's just an extra thing to be careful of while using fiametta which is why it's just recommended to keep bibeak/kafka/etc in first slot so that they dont accidentally move spots

it's also a bit less of a concern after presets were released since they will generally keep people in the same spot

just if you're manually selecting ops for the tp accidental shifting of ops is pretty common

[vestal sable]

Trading post 1
Gummy Midnight Catapult
Jaye gitano Melantha

Trading post 2
Proviso Quartz Mousse
orchid kichisei Adnachiel

Notes:

• E2 proviso ASAP.
• If u get shamare, e2 her asap followed by tequila. Teams will change as well so lmk if u do.

Factory 1 (EXP)
Vigna Shirayuki Frostleaf
Cardigan Cuora Perfumer

**Factory 2 (EXP) **
Figurino Popukar
Noircorne Beagle

Factory 3 (Gold)
Fang Kroos
Totter Wulfenite

Factory 4 (Gold)
Haze Almond Steward
Meteor Chestnut Beanstalk

Factory 5 (Gold)
Bryophyta Gravel (e1) Spot
Ptilopsis SIlence Yato

Notes

• Bryophyta is in the so long adele record restoration.
• If u get vermeil and/or purestream lmk as that will switch some of ur teams around.

[arctic prism]

when doing this also make sure to keep 2 other suis in some of the other facilities if you arent already
can just throw two of them into training room or 1 in workshop or smth
for running exodia + shamare/teq main, the lmd looks on the lower end to me

also are you running whisperain or mulberry?

[vestal sable]

Power plants
Greyy
Indigo

lucilla
Goldenglow

HR
Ethan
Utage

Notes:

• Haruka replaces one of these when she's e2

Reception Room
May Rope
Vigil hoolheyak

Notes:

• Vigil is free from il siracusano, which u have to do for sakiko's module

Control center:
Ave Mujica band team
Amiya Hoshi alter Lava alter kroos alter hibiscus alter

[steady spoke]

so i get lmd up to e2 proviso. do you get shamare from pulling? i can get tequila soon and e2 him, ill get bryophyta from so long adele. and do you also get vermeil and purestream from pulling?

[vestal sable]

@steady spoke should cover all of ur team stuff

[vestal sable]

shamare is from the kernel pool so through recruits at some point or if they give out a free 5* voucher

[glacial pecan]

Trying to maximize my tp's but I don't really have a lot of good base operators. I'm have one formation for each TP
TP 1 -> Proviso, yato, Mouse
TP 2-> Texas, Lappland, jaye

I'm assuming with my operators I just fill out the second formation wiht basion 30% or 25% md reducers? Just want to know I'm on the right track before I do factories.

https://www.krooster.com/u/phonixdrive

[vestal sable]

purestream is recruit only, vermeil is from pulling/recruits

[vestal sable]

are u on 252 or 243

[glacial pecan]

243

[vestal sable]

u can e2 tequila if u need him for combat stuff but dont bother with him in the base until u get shamare as well

[glacial pecan]

my rr is lvl 3

[glacial pecan]

Yeah I was doing those stages But i didn't have shamare so yet

[arctic prism]

for reference, on average you should be getting (0 drone usage):
either

• 31419.71831 lmd/day from mr nothing + proviso (with whisperain + amiya)
• 35138.02817 lmd/day from mr nothing + proviso (with mulberry + amiya)

and

• 25479.45205 lmd/day from shamare team (+amiya and assuming permanent ramp, so slightly lower than this in reality, closer to ~24500 after factoring ramp)

[vestal sable]

u can still run 252 with a lv 3 rr btw (if ur office is lower that's even more factories u can get up)

but if u just wanna stick to 243 that's fine as well

[glacial pecan]

My office is leveled up so I probably can't swap to it.

[arctic prism]

252 with maxed right side of base is still more efficient than staying on 243

consider it like getting a free permanent 50% factory worker

[glacial pecan]

I will probably swap to it later but I'm in need of consistent lmd right now as a concern

Appreciate telling me though.

[vestal sable]

thats with a level 3 office as well (the combo in the ss)

this is if u wanna keep both tps at lv 3

but ill just give u 243 stuff for now ig

[steady spoke]

do i change anything when i e2 proviso ill be able to soon

[vestal sable]

nope

just makes her team that much better when u e2 her but no changes required

[glacial pecan]

Thanks I will save this for later when I swap

[vestal sable]

I'd put e1 quartz on the proviso team (red cert shop)
2nd team can be yato Gitano melantha

Gummy Midnight Catapult for the other tp one

for now u can keep yato where she is and run adnachiel/exusiai as the 3rd member of the other team

[glacial pecan]

I deadass do not have enough gaurd chips to e1 quartz. I will place her after that thanks

[crude inlet]

am i doing this right i honestly have no idea what im doing

https://www.krooster.com/u/ne13
heres my units if that helps

[vestal sable]

for future reference u prob wanna show both shifts of the teams, also proviso in one tp for sure (and u can even downgrade that one to lv 2 to allow another factory to be upgraded to lv 3)

[crude inlet]

heres my second shift
i did look at the spreadsheet but im too dumb to understand it so

[vestal sable]

thats fair i can take a look at stuff

fwiw u usually want ur first shifts as the main team and the 2nd shifts as backups while they rest, so u want ur first shift teams to be the most efficient ones possible

for the trading posts that'd be proviso in one and the tequila shamare team in the other

i can go over ur krooster and suggest changes if i see any if that'd work?

also if ur not very desperate for lmd its more efficient overall to get one tp down to lv 2 and just use the extra power on another factory like i mentioned, would u like me to suggest teams for that setup or ur current one?

[mossy moat]

wait wait wait holy fricking ballsack

you sure chongus applies to Sui stationed in RR / TR? Do those not count as 'Activity Rooms'??

[arctic prism]

yep

[mossy moat]

holy fucking shit ur right

wtfff

you have the biggest brain

[arctic prism]

when activity rooms were announced we got hopeful that they were going to function like just spaces to put misc workers like this but then they didnt work

[mossy moat]

either that or i got the smallest brain

thats +15% order eff

i have all the Sui too, so thats prefect

[arctic prism]

you prob just missed something while reading up on the combo lol

[mossy moat]

nooooo TR doesnt count??

[arctic prism]

tr counts

anything except dorms and activity rooms

[vestal sable]

activity rooms are just activity rooms specifically (they are literally called that)

[arctic prism]

like both trainee and trainer counts for TR

[mossy moat]

uh no

they must have changed it?

[arctic prism]

they havent lol

[mossy moat]

my nian isnt giving the +5%

in TR

[arctic prism]

CY buff caps at 5 suis

that's prob what you're getting confused by?

[mossy moat]

only +10% then, 🙁 not 5 rips

oh well i dont use rr anyways

been playing everyday for 6 years straight and i still dont know how to do the whole clue thing

🌯

[vestal sable]

u just arrange 1 to 7 and click exchange and u get 210 credits the next day for doing it

send extras to friends and friends send their extras to you

[mossy moat]

yea i got big chongus ling dusk in cc

[mossy moat]

no

[arctic prism]

i guess if you dont plan to use RR thats fine
common practice instead is just to leave nian in WS, yu in TR
then when you actually need to use TR, put kazemaru + fatigued shu in RR

dead suis still count toward it so

[vestal sable]

wtf shu abuse

[mossy moat]

idk how to do the clue things, and i dont plan to start now. tbh the less taps the better day to day. plus credits make close to no impact anyways unless you're doing it for ncd stonks which i should prob be doing

[mossy moat]

thats horrible lmao noted though

[arctic prism]

lmao i guess if you had to pick one thing to neglect in base, RR is easily the least impactful so ig it's fine

[arctic prism]

actually one other question just to make sure but you are using one of either whisperain (+rosmontis) or mulberry for office right?

bc thats another potential +20% you're missing out on if you arent using them

[mossy moat]

wait wat

ur messing w me right

one sec

[arctic prism]

oooookay hold up

are you using rosmontis

in factory

and i guess do you care more about factory or tp

[mossy moat]

would i be throwing if i said no

[mossy moat]

and factory

[arctic prism]

not necessarily

[mossy moat]

im using wp team

[arctic prism]

you can run both at the same time is why i was asking

[mossy moat]

ok dude look

its been forever since i revamped my base lmao. i should definitely be using rosmo for wp team

[arctic prism]

the only difference between running full wp vs pi + wp is just who you put in office

[mossy moat]

im using full wp

should i be incorporating rosmo?

i jsut dont know where to fit her in

[arctic prism]

ok so the two options you have are
mulberry in office = +20% tp
whisperain in office + rosmontis in factory -> rosmontis becomes 50% factory worker

[mossy moat]

oh shes for pi

[mossy moat]

rosmo anywhere in fac?

[arctic prism]

ye

[mossy moat]

is taht literally it? with full wp

[arctic prism]

yea lol

[mossy moat]

do i need e2 whispy

[arctic prism]

ye i think so

[mossy moat]

ok time to build whispy lmao

smth smth ROI is garb ye ye

i play niches anyway its fine

my last build was fricking quartz and broca lmao

so i aint trippin

[arctic prism]

if you really want to go the extra mile you can also uh

e2 iris and czerny

and leave them in your highest level dorm

[mossy moat]

ok no lol

lmaooooo

[arctic prism]

it'll give ros +% for whatever level dorm you put them in LOL

[mossy moat]

i have all lv1 dorms anyways. rr2 office2

[mossy moat]

that is pretty nutty, is it what +5% per?