r-i-i-c

[wind otter]

Whisperrain for Sui team also

[dawn gate]

ill raise ashlock

she is fun in combat as well

ig?

[wind otter]

do you have the whole team? many pieces

[dawn gate]

what is the combo

[wind otter]

with Flametail, Viviana, Fartooth, and Wild Mane

[dawn gate]

i have fartooth and flametail raised

viviana and mane unraised

[wind otter]

they are EXP meta team, you decide if you are willing to promote all those ops

[jaunty notch]

you can look through your list then sort them through pin link 4

[pale yoke]

i swear one day i will get ak and endfield clue exchange mixed up

most of the people who does exchange are the regular in both games in trading

[wind otter]

[orchid bane]

Is clue 7 still meta in ef ?

[pale yoke]

don't think so, i've been getting every clue in balance. none standout

[orchid bane]

-# everything you know is about to change

[queen flicker]

no sakiko yet, waiting for the 10 free pull. will replace nyamu. is everything ok?

and this is my upcoming changes. everything is almost guaranted except for maybe nasti and snegurochka if i'm unlucky

[pale yoke]

Why split verm and scene

[queen flicker]

my second best verm team is with scene and beanstalk which is 96%

can move trag to fac 2 tho. but then the sub vermeil team is bubble with bena which is 93%. bubble vulcan scene sub is 96.5% first 12h

this is slighty better if im not wrong

other not so guaranted upgrades are mlynar and pinus. or even mizuki. sui sublings is imposible to get for me. pinus is hard because i'm missing flametail viviana and fartooth, but still doable with gold certs and off banners. theres also abyssal hunters but i'm not doing 7h shifts

[pale yoke]

understandable

prime example of kernel ruining combo

[glad hill]

Where are you making those? Is there a website for this or did you just import all the images into paint

[silent nova]

Thats google sheets

probably

[viral anchor]

yeah this doesnt look good

[orchid bane]

What with that LMD

[viral anchor]

idfk bro i need help

maybe my worker combo isnt good enough

[orchid bane]

Just keep your facilities work and I think you can get more than that

It probably stopped working for some reasons

[viral anchor]

prob cause i usually just

log in once, replace all of the tired operators

do some operations

then log off for the sanity to recharge

[orchid bane]

Maybe you don't press the TP claim button

They only stop working for 2 reasons
Cap (full orders .the lack of goldbar can also lead to this )
No OP in it ( even dead OP can keep them work)

[viral anchor]

yeah maybe

i'll check on latr

[spring plover]

How is ambience trust calculated again

[queen flicker]

yes it's a google sheet. i import the avatars from here https://github.com/puppiizsunniiz/Arknight-Images/tree/main/avatars

[glad hill]

tq

[dim raven]

im very lost, i havent really paid attention to my base
how should i go about making teams? and what do all these acronyms for bases mean...?

[south geyser]

use this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?usp=drivesdk

theres a beginner section

[dim raven]

thank you

[glad hill]

look up father markel's vid on yt

[dim raven]

is proviso required? i dont have her

[glad hill]

It would be nice to have her due to how cracked she is but if not then just wait for her to appear in the shop or a 5* selector on some (half)anniversary event

She works well in any team with high productivity

[dim raven]

alright :> ill get her when i can

[south geyser]

just use the standard tp workers for now

should still net you close to 50k lmd per day

[orchid bane]

The more dorm level ,the more ambience cap. If you are lazy just set a 5k set there
The assistant slot gain trust base on ambience there
The main assistant slot gain total trust from all the dorms

[spring plover]

I see

[winged tundra]

I don't understand why putting shamare+prov+teq gives me stable 60k a day and without proviso in same tp it's even worse by 6k a day even tho i put e0 into shamteq combo

Im only droning lmd with proviso tho

[glad hill]

72 THOUSAND??? Did I drone Provisio too much yesterday??? Is this a regular occurrence with the Provisio refresh strat??

[south geyser]

isnt proviso slot bibeak/kafka instead?

proviso should be on the other tp

[winged tundra]

I get less lmd when prov is in the other tp than shamteq

And i only have diamante e0

[orchid bane]

If you have less than regular the day before then this is kinda normal

If you want more accurate report, claim TP at the end of the day

[south geyser]

who youre pairing up with proviso also matters iirc, so its def a synergy issue

stuff like lacking good pair for prov and not using bibeak/kafka

[winged tundra]

It's usually just 70% order eff

[winged tundra]

Diamante has order rarity increase just as them

He's e0

[south geyser]

I also remembered this

the position matters

[orchid bane]

It is hardest to mess up position

Cause the strongest ramp in the 1st slot

If you swap the whole team out cause no Fiam then they are basically not matter at all

[viral anchor]

how often should i check my base

[blissful ginkgo]

the cat worth e2 for base pair with tragodia?

which of these most worth the e2 for base

bibeak, texas, ms christie

[viral anchor]

dude how the hell can i do it like you

yeah maybe i need to find better combos this is not it

[glad hill]

Did your base run out of power Endfield style or smth why is there only 6k lmao

[viral anchor]

its probably because of my operators idk

i heard that with good combos you can get alot

[glad hill]

You have 243, right?

[viral anchor]

243 what

power?

[glad hill]

2 tradings posts, 4 factories, 3 power plants

[viral anchor]

252, actually

2 trading posts, 5 factories, 2 power plants

[glad hill]

Does that mean they're not all lvl3?

[viral anchor]

which is enough i suppose

[viral anchor]

i got both power plants to lvl 3, i have one tp at lvl 3 and the other at lvl 2, and 4 factories at lvl 3 and one at lvl 2

[glad hill]

I've never been into the while downgrading your facilities thing

[viral anchor]

but im not sure if i should get both tps to lvl 3

[glad hill]

Can you upgrade them or does it say that you don't have enough power?

[viral anchor]

ofc i can

you think this is enough power btw?

[glad hill]

I heard some stuff about how Provisio technically works better in a lvl2 tp but idk

[viral anchor]

yeah i always use her in a lvl 2

[hasty tiger]

If she's in a level 3 it's just that much more likely her ability doesn't do anything because it's naturally a 4 gold trade

[viral anchor]

thought you were talking about me mb lmao

say should i leave them like this or get them all to lvl 3

[hasty tiger]

Factory to level 3 leave the tp

[viral anchor]

you got it

also is it worth it to get the training room to lvl 3

[hasty tiger]

The extra power likely goes to your training room yeah

You don't need to do that right now

But eventually

When it becomes relevant to you trying to m3 skills

[viral anchor]

i mean i kind of want to

to get the control room to lvl 5

[hasty tiger]

Oh yeah if it's holding you back from that do it

[empty raven]

Anyone could help me why does my base produce such little lmd?

[rigid plume]

Yes. Do you have Proviso?

[empty raven]

idts...

[rigid plume]

Try to find her.
5☆ Supporter/Decel Binder.

[empty raven]

i dont have her

how do i get her hehe

[rigid plume]

Gacha.

Big shame, she could pump those numbers up.

Then just put highest OrderEff%+ you have.

[empty raven]

how bout for now

how do i

raise it

[rigid plume]

Yato, Fang, Haze, Mouuse...

They're cheap at raising.

And they give 30%.

[empty raven]

ok bengal so sorry

i kinda new to game base

I dont understand shi HAHAH

[empty raven]

What do i put into what

[rigid plume]

Like ops with biggest Order% possible

[empty raven]

to where

[rigid plume]

Training Posts

You wanna earn more money or what?

Trading gives money

[empty raven]

yes moniii

HAhhaheeh

[rigid plume]

Don't forget to assign in Factories not less weak Production% for gold

[empty raven]

so to here righttt

[rigid plume]

Yes

[west tapir]

So turns out if you try to speedup a proviso Post with drones it will spend more drones if its a 5 gold order compared to 4 gold order.
For example it will consume 70 (5 ingots) drones instead of 50 drones (4 ingots)

[vernal palm]

this is because each drone cuts 3 minutes off of the base time till the next trade offer appears, and the starting time is dependent on how big the order will be

[honest igloo]

am i screwed if i upgrade the stuff that can’t be downgraded?

[arctic prism]

yup

[honest igloo]

Would it be better if i just switched to 2-4-3? Or is this okay?

[vital oriole]

252 is still better, so stick with it

[viral anchor]

can this go well

[viral anchor]

like who

[hasty tiger]

#bot-spam has a base command for ops to e1 for their base skills but also check the pins number 4 for good combos. It'll be rough for a new account to have them but keeping them in mind helps

[vague tendon]

yay I finished my base just now 🙂 (for now)

surely this will make me rich now

[queen flicker]

max left

[pallid isle]

well small problem is rr is level 2

if/when he wants to do tr level 3 gonna have to downgrade a tp

but in reality (excluding cursing) its not that extreme to have proviso in a level 2 vs a level 3 tp i would say

they just have to keep increasing the friend cap and make me feel that my rr is even more useless then it already is

[queen flicker]

well atleast you can share 6*

[pallid isle]

[queen flicker]

i mean, thanks to you some players can borrow a 6*

imagine if everyone had rr lvl 1

you could say rr lvl 1 players like me are a bit selfish

[pallid isle]

i have found i been getting a lot of friend request lately since the cap update so i suppose so

[vague tendon]

this is my plan

I just got to chapter 6 and the fights are a lot harder now so I just decided to rush my base and hopefully it helps me power up

[pallid isle]

It's all about long term gains with base

But your on the right track

Even max-1 is still extremely good base

And you will notice more and more gains over the next few days with that

[vague tendon]

I did my first significant banner pull on the ave mujica and now I have all these units to raise and im poor

[arctic prism]

Btw I finally got around to doing this too lol
Think I went about it in a slightly different way though
Ignore the space efficiency for this part tho lol I wasnt planning to use this space in particular for anything else so I just did whatever was easiest for my brain to comprehend

[silent nova]

Did you see the one that auto adjusts

[arctic prism]

whaaaa

how

[vague tendon]

mine is just stacking splitters in a row to slow the path down

[arctic prism]

i mean yea mine is more or less the same, just went and calculated exactly how slow i needed to make it and how many 2 and 3 way splitters i needed to get as close to that speed as I could

[silent nova]

let me find it

there's two ake subreddits so finding stuff is miserable

[arctic prism]

lmao

[silent nova]

get these gooner posts out of my factory subreddit

[pale yoke]

I find the best way to conserve energy is to map out your zip line as soon as possible
Minimum zip line to essential stuff and turn off planter when stuff are capped

I stopped using the battery line thing now that I got the optimal base

Energy 4.6/4.6

[arctic prism]

oh you actually got it down to exactly 4.6?

thats pretty good

[pale yoke]

Yea

[silent nova]

my wuling rn is 1795/1800

[arctic prism]

i need to go replace all my shit ziplines from when i didnt have the upgraded ones unlocked lmao

[vague tendon]

Its pointless for me to optimize rn because my outposts have no money to give me, i have too many mats stored

[pale yoke]

I'll show you my weekly report after the week concluded

[pale yoke]

Yea optimization should be the last thing you do

Finish mainline first

[silent nova]

i found i

t

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/s/mSCAxj6lTo

it hsa blackouts then adds +100 power limit until it stops having blackouts

automatically

[vague tendon]

mine just blackouts to like 80% then refills all day long

[pale yoke]

I don't use wuling battery at all I just sell them
Easier to make V4 battery and transfer to wuling

[pale yoke]

Sorry I don't understand

[arctic prism]

wtf is going on here LOL

[silent nova]

i don't understand the whole of it but hte basis is something like

[vague tendon]

the batteries run out for a certain duration to where my reserve power turns on until the next one reaches it, i have it timed where it will never actually deplete

[pale yoke]

Arh

[silent nova]

when you have a blackout protocol stashes stop automatically transferring itms to depot

[pale yoke]

Yea

[arctic prism]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh

[silent nova]

so it's able to use the remaining items in the stash to fill the lines to buffer it out

[arctic prism]

those were protocol stashes

lmao

[pale yoke]

Make sense I was doing that too until I fix my zip line

[arctic prism]

completely forgot those have outputs

[silent nova]

real

[pale yoke]

Ikr it really do adds up

[arctic prism]

only ever used them as depot loaders lmao

[silent nova]

oh shit proviso died

endfield rot

[pale yoke]

I went from 4940/5700
To 4600/4600

[arctic prism]

dam

[pale yoke]

Relatable

[silent nova]

ive only been rotating once a day since endfield came out LOL

[vague tendon]

this is how mine looks

[pale yoke]

I don't think I'll be reading AVE mujika either

[arctic prism]

lmao same too much shit to do in endfield

[vague tendon]

and yeah cant turn in since i produce more than they generate

[silent nova]

you can remove the line out of the splitter at the bottom

it'll be the same effect but you don't have a line coming out of the bottom

[vague tendon]

ye

[pale yoke]

I have 30k extra battery I sent to wuling after clearing shop

[vague tendon]

good call

[silent nova]

also something about their like

my factory makes their offline factory sim alg tweak out

every so often there'd be an hour period where my prod tweaks the hell out

like hc battery dips to 12/m for some reason

ferrium is suddenly 96/m instead of 120/m

[pale yoke]

Yea if you look at weekly one it will look lower too

It's the converter and some machine produce faster than they can transfer the byproduct by like 0.02 sec

[pale yoke]

And those milliseconds accumulated enough to show up in the weekly result

[arctic prism]

p sure he's showing wuling ferrium not valley4 lol

[silent nova]

yeah

and also no reason it should've been 74/m

[arctic prism]

yea lmao

[silent nova]

lke it just tweaks out sometimes

even if you don't touch anythin

[arctic prism]

only explanation i got is power went out for some seconds or smth

but other than that idk

[silent nova]

nah i think they just can't accurately sim all factories for all players at the same time so they have a separate approximation algorithm instead when you're off or something

[arctic prism]

yea thta's prob tru

[silent nova]

ak endfield eos tomorrow, server costs went to the moon after simulating 5 player's factories at the same time :_(

[pale yoke]

it's either power went out
or it's ramping back up after power went out when you moved your core and moved back in range

difference between wuling and valley core is wire vs wireless the wire one is set and you can move your core however
but wireless even after you set if you move the core over 80m from relay it's a oopsie

[silent nova]

i hadn't touched my factory when it did that (or when it stabilized)

power prod was always higher than power consumption

[pale yoke]

odd

[silent nova]

like this curve is weird

because both went down by the same amount

[pale yoke]

[silent nova]

also the diffs aren't equal to battery production

like if a thermal bank went offline it should've gone down by 1 battery amount

[pale yoke]

yours is curving like crazy lol

[silent nova]

but it's not

so their sim literally just tweaked out

[pale yoke]

you're not using the energy conserve method?

[silent nova]

no

no need to edge v4

[pale yoke]

the game hates you

[silent nova]

yeah no kidding

all my 6*s are hard pity btw

they got special cases for me to spite me

[pale yoke]

i actually abandoned my main account for a day after i hit hard pity on both character and weapon
reroll account got the same treatment so i went back to main

i got hated twice

idk how im always watching people pull good stuff while im here looking at orange bag everytime

[silent nova]

dude

it's 33% chance to get a 6* weapon on any 10 pull

and i've had to hard pity all my weapons so far

[pale yoke]

ikr, how people get 2 or 3 on every pull is beyond me

[arctic prism]

[silent nova]

we salt mines now

[pale yoke]

very

[arctic prism]

p sure my avg pulls per 6* is 30

[pale yoke]

i was watching a streamer he got average 2 6star weapon every 10 pull

[arctic prism]

sheeeeeeesh

[pale yoke]

it was crazy

he did like 200 weapon pull iirc and after counting yea average out to 2 every 10

[tidal echo]

Best trading post for proviso?

[silent nova]

mr nothing 95% in tp 2

[pale yoke]

lv2 with any highest % if you run 252
if everything max just any lv3 tp

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[wind otter]

[hallow turret]

Is it worth using tequila without shamare

[orchid bane]

Usually no,
However....
Maybe you should not know this
Still no

[hallow turret]

[pale yoke]

basically no not worth

[arctic prism]

unless you're willing to log in every hour, no

is what red was referring to

[pale yoke]

cho look at this tech of mine

technologia

[wind otter]

every tile counts

[pale yoke]

basically set up in a way so i can just switch it to sanding for the daily delivery

and after back to cap 80k go back to sandleaf

my setup very efficient

[pale yoke]

yea but i see many people have their setup made into like 5 different product merge into one those scares me
one blueprint for a whole base basically

mine all seperated

so i can micro them

truly a cursed user

[dawn forge]

why is #r-i-i-c turning into #aic-factory

[pale yoke]

idk

we just bunch of doc hanging out

[wind otter]

[dawn forge]

kay then

dual purpose setup

can swap between bats and comps immediately by a few lines

[pale yoke]

base is base ynow

[pale yoke]

oh this one very similar to mine

[silent nova]

You can do this automatically though it has different distribution profiles

Hijack your line with a splitter and a protocol stash

Once depot is full stash gets full and splitter stops splitting into it

[pale yoke]

when i do micro is mainly for energy control

i would turn off those not in use so save energy usage = save battery

but yea if you dont care about battery usage just set up splitter into multi big setup

[dawn forge]

yall know about the guy who made a system that throttle battery use to maximize both output and reserve

like he was using IRL grid power energy concept

[pale yoke]

yea saw it on youtube and akalter channel

i just use the simple splitter method or just control within battery usage

[wind otter]

My bases are a mess, I haven't seen any videos or done any research. I was on my way to unlock Wuling base but 180 hidden chests pulled the brakes on my progress. What is the endgame for Valley 4? HC and Buck Capsule A? Or are they traps because lower value products that are produced faster end up giving you more money or something?

[pale yoke]

i just ignore chest and run pass them lol

im doing cleanup now that i've completed everything else

yea just HCV and Buck A

then you have amethyst

just make bottle out of those, most space and energy efficient

don't make parts for sales, those consume energy like crazy

fr just power through main quest to unlock all features
and do those side quest that unlock features first

[wind otter]

man I can't, I see the quest goal on the map and I have to run the opposite way

I've always done sidequests first, story later, I can't change now

[pale yoke]

ARE YOU HIMMEL THE HERO?

factory made me caps lock sometimes

[wind otter]

haven't seen that anime sorry

[wind otter]

understanable

[wind otter]

yesterday I spent two hrs just jumping against map borders and invisible walls trying to shove a zip line on that broken bridge in Science Park ||and accomplished nothing||

[pale yoke]

im not one to judge

i spent time optimizing the most minute details in base

[wind otter]

I need to get to that, when I'm done with side quests and main story

[vernal palm]

RR level 2 only costs 20 power over RR level 1, where is RR 1 setup getting the other 10 power needed to maintain TR 3 with max left? Only 3 dorms?

[vague tendon]

where exactly? I spent like 3 hours in power plant doing the same nonsense so I might have some tips

[glad hill]

How long do the -0,25 MD ops last if I have wisadel/mlynar/chongy boy in the CC?

[jaunty notch]

the effects change depending on other conditions, you can look at the timer for them

[wind otter]

this one, I'd be surprised if someone can zip this without hacking

[weak moon]

OMG 90K BASE NEW META

[pale yoke]

WOW new account day 1 90k no doubt

[viral anchor]

i hate it here

[spice basin]

Can someone help me make my base good i know theres a command for it but when i look at the guide i never have the full team so its not worth it or any replacments https://www.krooster.com/u/hedda

[queen flicker]

ive been using the wrong exu for over a week

[viral anchor]

https://krooster.com/u/yourlocaltaus yeah i kind of need some help with base aswell

[glad hill]

how doe

[hasty tiger]

They're blank on two days before. It's probably collecting a full previous day + the day it's showing. But the metal and exp seems normal so idk

[jaunty notch]

you can start with NOOB, it has only 4* and some unlevelled welfares. After you're strong enough for endgame content, you can go back to raise ops for base if you want to

[pallid isle]

I have hit 100k before but Iike noi said it's a lot of carry over/not collecting/having a lot of drones saved the day before

[weak moon]

yeah I was busy the past couple days

[ember hull]

Just checking, for cc4 requirements ideally i level everything on the left to lv2, then upgrade 1 dorm, get the 3rd floor, then put in 2-5-2 then downgrade the dorm right?

[dawn forge]

yes
remember, if you're doing optimal 252 then your right side should be 2-3-1-3, no more

2RR/3WS/1HR/3TR

[ember hull]

2-3-1-3 right side means one factory is lv2 right? Is it possible to have all the factories at lv3?

[weak moon]

Technically possible have full lv3 left if you do 1313 and destroy a dorm, but that is schizo

[empty raven]

is there a single video guide to who to put on rotation?

[valid storm]

we have a general how to rotate video and a spreadsheet with the current meta teams

[viral anchor]

I can do better than this though

[glad hill]

okay, so if my cc were to have a rotation as well then what would be the most optimal usage of it without removing wisadel (unless its a WP team) or having to regularly refresh anyone with fia?

[glad hill]

if I replace poz+tuye with kichisei and mr.nothing+mulberry alone, that already gives me 80% at much less space being taken in the dorms, so I'll do that right away

[queen flicker]

i'm trying to understand your sheet but i'm

so you are doing 36h rotations of almost all facilities right?

except for fac 2?

but why is there 4 rows?

each row is a 36h shift?

[west summit]

you can put the durins in training room and the crafting station too no?

[glad hill]

yes, there are only 3 rotations, 1 and 2 are 36h and FAC 2 is 48h
rot1 takes 9 dorm slots at a time and rot 2 takes 12, 5 slots in the dorms are taken at all times, with senshi sometimes being added when there's a free space

however I'm already going to replace mr. nothing with mulberry, swap the laterano team and the durin+provisio team and the durin part of that team with kichisei and mr. nothing as soon as I get the materials to promote kichisei so consider that part of the pic already changed

[glad hill]

tr is already taken by w (for hoederer) and durins take up too much space anyway, if I'm going to rotate CC then I'm going to need more of it

[queen flicker]

so you rotate like half your base and when dorms are empty rotate the other half?

[glad hill]

makes it so that I have to visit it like only 2 times a day yes

man is chongy boy going to ruin the 36/36 rule

[queen flicker]

and you use wisadel with r6 to save dorms space and so pp, rr and hr can work for 36h?

[glad hill]

used to use mlynar until a week ago when I suddenly found out that wisadel essentially has the same skill as him but better lol (in my case specifically)

and so my spiral into once again minmaxing my base resumed

[queen flicker]

i see. thats an interesting base set up. but if you are already visiting the base 2 times a day, why don't you do a more regular rotation with staggers when posible and better cc ops?

[glad hill]

already on my way to e2 kichisei and kindly ask pozy, tuye and most of the durins to move out, therefore letting me send 16 ops to dorms at max

also, staggers?

[queen flicker]

i'm bad at explaining it. better check peter video https://youtu.be/0si4HMQuYBo

basically instead of rotating every operator in the facility, you only swap one at at time, saving space in dorms and improving their working time

[glad hill]

Im already thinking on how to best utilize cc without screwing up the 36/36 rule (bc chongy boy is going to lowkey ruin it if I place anyone except ling into the base)

[glad hill]

ohhh that one

[loud remnant]

i need to upgrade 1 more 5 stars for the event, can someone reccomend one that would be good for base?
https://www.krooster.com/u/muffinviet

[glad hill]

nah im good
I want to stick to 36/36, managing the shamare team all day time is too much hassle (besides, I dont have Narantuya, and I'm probably gonna need her for my whatever rotation to produce extra gold instead of exp if im gonna run this set-up))

[queen flicker]

yeah you do you but usually you don't stagger a team like shamare, in that case you simply rotate the whole team

[loud remnant]

could someone give me some suggestions

[queen flicker]

it took me a while to understand stagger rotations but i really recommend you to use them when posible

[queen flicker]

i'd have to check more carefully but without much thinking i would say feater?

[loud remnant]

rn im torn between bryophyta(i get him inrecord restore) and grey alter

i kinda have a lot of exp ops already so feater seems redundant

and it's small increase

[glad hill]

wait no I misread his kit, he gives 0,05, not 0,5 per 20 WP lol

[glad hill]

if you already have the automation team (purestream+weedy+eunectes for 120% in a 243) then go for greyyalter, he makes it so that when he's in pp the team has 140% prod

[queen flicker]

yeah bryophyta sounds better. other options i saw in your rooster are wild mane, vulcan, scene or kichisei but without your current base context is hard for me to recommend the best option

[loud remnant]

what context you need?

im using shamare comp / jaye gnosis for tp 1
quarzt proviso / exu lemuen for tp 2

and im considering automation team but it seems like a more long term prospect than as of rn

[queen flicker]

i mean with just your rooster it's hard for me to visualize your current base so i don't exactly know what can be improved more

[loud remnant]

yeah mainly factory

i dont really have room for anything else

ig then bryophyta is just the best option then?

[queen flicker]

probably

[glad hill]

krooster doesnt load on my end, do you have the automation team?

[loud remnant]

I have the 6 stars required but not e2

[glad hill]

the 6*s give a smaller bonus on e0 but they still have it

like, what fac team do you have rn that youre planning to replace with either bryo or these guys

[loud remnant]

Im using 252 not 243 btw

[glad hill]

ah well

then you might as well go for bryo tbh

[loud remnant]

Well my gold factory still need better workers

[glad hill]

in a 252 the 6* on e2 give only 45 and 30% repsectively, in total with greyyalt thats gonna be 115%

fully upgraded bryo team (no thorns2) has 110

so pretty much the same result minus 5%

[loud remnant]

Oh i just realized

Im usin purestream

[glad hill]

lul

[loud remnant]

Bryo wont work

It will be 5% less

Hmm

Maybe it is still worth

Cause im staggering

Oh nvm

I can make it work still

So bryo best then @glad hill ?

[glad hill]

if chongy boy gives -0,05 MD per 20 WP and 1 is 0,05x20, plus the fact that he already provides 0,05... does that mean I'm going to need 395 WP to use him instead of wisael or mlynar?????

yeah screw him he's not 36ing shi, he's not even base-wide, his skill doesn't apply to CC itself

[glad hill]

uh ig

[loud remnant]

Aight thanks

[glad hill]

Is it even currently possible for Chong Yue to reach/overtake Mlynar/Wisadel????

[glad hill]

Wait no I'm dumb Wisadel and mlynar also recover 0,1 on their own

[glad hill]

I FOUND THE BALANCE!!!

Wisadel+CE subtracts 0,2 MD across the working areas, which would leave out the CC with just your regular 0,25 instead of 0,45 if it wasn't for Hibiscus2 and Lava2, ((0,05x2)+(0,05x2)=0,2)

Chongyue also restores 0,2 MD across the working areas (15 from the 3 siblings just being in CC + 15 from one of the sistes every twelve hours + 20 from MN + 20 from Mulberry = 70, 70/20≈3, 0,05*3+0,05=0,2) Dusk restores 0,05 to the CC, but where are we going to take 0,15 if theres only 2 slots left in the CC?
Well it turns out Reed2 happens to have a stupid skill that only restores 0,05 (it doesn't even interact with Mlynar's skill since it's not a smiley) and Kroos2 restores 0,05 for every alter in CC, which includes Reed2, giving her 0,1. So 0,05 from Dusk plus 0,05 from Reed2 plus 0,05x2 from Kroos2 gives us the 0,2 to balance it out with the base AND the other CC team!

So now that I'm going to rotate 14 and 17 ops, 1 being left out for just 6 hours (out of almost 36) is acceptable

[chilly patio]

Is this exp gain good?

[wind otter]

Numbers look decent, some people here make even less EXP daily, but you could hit 30 something EXP, 120 something gold, and if you get Proviso and drone Proviso you could hit 70,000 LMD

[chilly patio]

i do have proviso, took this screenshot somewhat early in the day, so maybe thats why lmd production looks weird?

i do normally hit 70k-75k lmd when proviso is on shift

[wind otter]

numbers can look weird if you don't gather your last batch of resources at the same hour each day, which is not necessary to always do, but can help you if you want to have accurate numbers in your three days report

[wind otter]

then it's good

[chilly patio]

whats the average to good amount of exp to make?

[wind otter]

30 something, if you prioritize EXP over LMD you can do 50 something

[pale yoke]

[devout glen]

who's a good 5* base slave to e2? i already have proviso tequila shamare bibeak done

[orchid bane]

Our boi Greyy2 great at IS5 gameplay, very great in base But you need Weedy E2

Delphine team. They are 2 E2 5* and a 6* siege don't need E2

[devout glen]

i got greyy2 e2 already, i didnt realize he had a good base skill

maybe fang alter i guess

[orchid bane]

Good but you need at least Weedy E2

Weedy is not so good lately I think

But whatever your team setup is . greyy2 team can surely fit in

If you do something like fia Proviso in 252, which many of us here do, Delphine team might not suit you

[orchid bane]

How is Umiri here. I just done with here. And I didn't move her here

[astral tiger]

just checking on her band member

[orchid bane]

Like. if she is activity and I take her off a building, then she would stay still ?

[wind otter]

I think something like that happened to me before. Report it to yostar so they give free ten pull compensation

[limpid spear]

what are good teams for level 2 factories? Just swapped over to a 2-5-2

I think ive done this right. I have fiametta for infinite proviso, shamare, and tequila too

one level 3 fac is for gold, and the other is for exp

is it worth just using both level 3s on gold?

[wind otter]

Proviso goes on lvl 2 TP with your highest % TP worker, ideally Mr. Nothing in Worldly Plight combo for those who have all the pieces
two op TP combo that is relevant would be Lemun + original Exu, that would be while cursing Proviso
three gold FACs and two EXP facs is the standard, to keep afloat while droning Proviso TP

[limpid spear]

what do you mean cursing proviso? Also is it possible to get a rotation that works for fiametta without mlynar?

right now i have 1 lvl 3 fac on gold, 1 lvl 3 fac on exp, 2 level 2 fac on gold, and 1 lvl 2 fac on exp

Dont have Mr nothing combo so im just using midnight / gummy to help with morale drain and efficiency

[wind otter]

Proviso placed at any moment before an order is about to be turned in. She doesn't need to be in TP all the time for her skill to work. Fiammetta working without Mlynar? I guess you mean if Mlynar doesn't slow down morale drain and how many morale restorations you can do with Fia, you should be able to do two at the very least and maybe a third one. Yeah, 1 lvl 3 for gold and 1 lvl 3 for EXP is how it usually goes.

[limpid spear]

oh so your saying i run lemon and og exu in a tp and then i swap to proviso and then swap back?

[solar tangle]

This a good base ? New player

[wind otter]

exactly

[limpid spear]

thats so bait wth

ok so i just use lemon and exu, and when theyre regenning i use two high value workers

[limpid spear]

can i do that with shamare team too, swap out paprika / bibeak for proviso before turnin?

[wind otter]

Shamare team you can curse Tequila but Bibeak and Shamare work by ramping up = likelyhood of higher yield orders the longer time they spend in the TP, if you remove them they reset

[wind otter]

level up factories even further

[limpid spear]

curse being fiametta thing? It sounds like I can use fia to reset teq and shamare when they run out. Rotate bibeak and paprika. And just make sure that proviso is rested up before turn in

[hasty tiger]

Prov works when an order is generated not when received

[limpid spear]

oh so prov does need to be in the tp?

[wind otter]

if you have the patience to do cursing, you can let Proviso and Tequila rest in dorms and only take them out when you need them, this frees Fiammetta

[hasty tiger]

Cursing is micromanaging them for when new order is populating

[limpid spear]

can you elaborate on that a bit, im kinda lost

are you talking about changing in an operator right when an order is about to pop up

[hasty tiger]

That's my understanding of it, yes

[limpid spear]

then swapping them out once the order is underway?

yeah thats cringe

not doing that

seems like a pain in the ass

[wind otter]

That is why you don't care about lvl 2 TP combos, because one slot will go to Proviso, breaking any possibility of combos, unless you curse

[limpid spear]

got it

i just gotta remember to use fiametta on cooldown

[rigid plume]

Yep. Add one more Dorm and level up some Facs and you're gud.

[wary bronze]

Is it better to drone proviso or shamare tp team

[wind otter]

Prov

[glad hill]

Actually, while I'm at it, I can actually replace the Reed2+Kroos2 (0,05+0,1) with Swire+Chen(also 0,05+0,1) who also give +7% to TP

[peak badger]

How much better is 252 max right than 243?

I ask because I already have 243

[pale yoke]

i do wonder if someone have a rough % estimation of that question

[summer kernel]

I thought the consensus was that it gives at least 100 percentage points more

[fluid pollen]

I think they did discuss this before.

[summer kernel]

Much better if you aren't max right*

[fluid pollen]

Like probs 10%+ better overall? If everything and then more if lacking.

[pale yoke]

i know the 1 factory 100% i meant like overall

yea was thinking maybe 20% better?

but im just spitballing

[summer kernel]

Did anyone crunch Wang numbers btw? Just read Gato's notes on Wang counting GreyAlt and I'm not sure if it's better or worse that Wang basically is locked into 7% TP.

Seems like QoL for Sui Exodia at best.

[fluid pollen]

Well according to this discussion it’s 5-10%+ better.

[pale yoke]

this is why 333 is far superior

[fluid pollen]

Wang is locked into 2% for 252 no? Unless 3pp?

[summer kernel]

I think the only efficient setups are 252, 153 and 342 depending on needs lol

[pale yoke]

yea i think wang is just qol too

[fluid pollen]

Eh counts Greyy and Eun?

Even then still looks like QOL.

[summer kernel]

Oh am I reading the sheet wrong? I thought the +3 from Eu/Greyy is considered so if you run that 140% team, it basically always counts as TP%

[pale yoke]

i highly doubt with the addition of wang the already optimized rotation would gain even 1%

[fluid pollen]

Nah I didn’t realise Greyy and Eun are counted

But realistically his effect is just a sidegrade

Doesn’t do anything

[fluid pollen]

Gain when training thoughts.

[pale yoke]

even czery is better and ill die on that hill

[summer kernel]

Freeing up slots is always good. Probably helps more than we estimate

[pale yoke]

yea well you dont train all the time and when you do you can rotate around it (or at least i can, i can't speak for others)

but i do agree even on the first discussion we had, i did say on that specific niche case

[fluid pollen]

I can’t even place him, since my 7% usage is outside of Eun usage.

[summer kernel]

It's definitely a straight up buff but I think it's like, "maybe you can squeeze in Mumu combo bc of the extra slots" type of buff for 1-5 percentage points

[pale yoke]

im too cursed to use myself as benchmark for others but in extreme case like myself, no gain

[summer kernel]

I think I'm taking off Eun for 14%TP after the 4* Penance-class defender arrives to global

[pale yoke]

i even curse training time so yea

[fluid pollen]

Eun…

[pale yoke]

weedy 75% ain't leaving

[fluid pollen]

Case by case extreme niche usage probably.

[summer kernel]

Idk I'm a big believer in Cho's work that Eun is basically 10% productivity. As for concerns about gold deficits, I think you just drone gold. Proviso just warps everyone's mind about needing to always drone cursed TP

[fluid pollen]

Err neither of us drone TP I think

And yea Eun seems the most droppable

[summer kernel]

I also believe in Umiri so

[pale yoke]

no way to fit sui + rhine unless you kick dorm worker out which in turn slow down recovering ops (probably knights in this case)

[fluid pollen]

I can probs do it

But yea yours is cursed so

[pale yoke]

seems unproductive if the cost is slowing down knight recovery

[fluid pollen]

Idk standard rots are probs fine

[pale yoke]

yea i mean 12hr rot dont need dorm mom

[summer kernel]

Yeah, it's definitely rotation dependent but Wang is a welcome buff after sidegrades and Pepe - Titi edging lol

[pale yoke]

being compared to pepe is like being called concord

[fluid pollen]

Is Nasti good enough

[pale yoke]

nasti good

im looking forward to her

[fluid pollen]

Time to lock down dorms

[summer kernel]

Where do you put Nasti though? I'm struggling to find a non-alt space for her

[fluid pollen]

Am thinking I might be able to place her in 3/4 shifts but might need some rearrangement.

Oh Zyf

[pale yoke]

optimal time for normie to learn about the cursed 2 knight 2 sui + eun rotation

[orchid bane]

[pale yoke]

no need for other sui in base so free up tr and workshop for rhine

[fluid pollen]

Lmao

[pale yoke]

[summer kernel]

For max right, the two main 3-slots are already taken up by Automation and Knights right?

Then Bryo Gravel would be better gold than Nasti Rhine I believe? For 3 slot team

[fluid pollen]

Automation takes 2, or in 14J’s case takes 1.

[summer kernel]

Ah yes, Purestream can be moved lol. Joys of not max right

[pale yoke]

333 supremacy

[fluid pollen]

Knights can be split also

🙂

The ever sometimes ? Useful?

[pale yoke]

Use nasti to ramp aroma

what a beaut

[summer kernel]

Ooph, does that mean you have to stash 3 Rhine in the dorms?

[pale yoke]

yea i think so

3 can be in tr and works

[summer kernel]

Yeah but Exodia already takes those slots and sometimes bleeds into RR

[pale yoke]

not for my case since im PI cursing

[summer kernel]

What is PI cursing and do I even want to know

[pale yoke]

ling below 12 morale

with dusk above 12

[summer kernel]

That sounds brutal. Did you set up a rotation to have that naturally happen without drift or is this manual cursing and calcing dorm times?

[pale yoke]

setup rotation around them

if over rest ling just have CY in with them next time until their next rest
and during that rest leave ling out and give dusk the coldshot + lumen speed rest treatment

[summer kernel]

Ok. My rotations aren't consistent enough so i would probably kill /over morale Ling

[pale yoke]

yea

[summer kernel]

What's the leeway on those timings? I stopped using any Gladiia bc any mess up would be like a week's worth of potential gains for me

[pale yoke]

pretty bad, like 2 hr rest for them
not many sane individual can do this

who the hell want to login to rotate just after 2 hour

[orchid bane]

Getting 2 dupe

[pale yoke]

why u farming rocc at this moment

[orchid bane]

[pale yoke]

clear shop already?

[orchid bane]

Actually no

[pale yoke]

[fluid pollen]

[summer kernel]

Not enough pulls for Sakiko? Not sure why it's better to do 1-7 midway unless you urgently need the rocks for AO farming

[fluid pollen]

Well there’s Sakiko.

Bro just loves the mines I think

🥹

[pale yoke]

did you play ak alter?

[summer kernel]

Yeah but he's going to continue clearing the shop right?

[pale yoke]

there's plenty of mine in there

[summer kernel]

Gotta take a hit of the mines mid way

[pale yoke]

red got that 1-7 brainrot

[summer kernel]

The only other benefit besides needing the pulls is if you don't have the full Band yet and you're really trying to batch all the trust gain until you pull in 3 days when you get the 2nd 10...

[pale yoke]

too many blue bag during this banner

i got that ptsd

[fluid pollen]

It’s an addiction.

[pale yoke]

NO

[fluid pollen]

In your blue eyes is a reflection of the blue bags.

[pale yoke]

it's highway robbery when the 1st 5star limited appeared on 80 pull and the other one on 90

[summer kernel]

should be running Umiri then for that free 4AO per day

[pale yoke]

prior to them its either all blue bag or off rate

[fluid pollen]

Collab banners have always been highway robbery.

[pale yoke]

like im pulling on wrong banner

[summer kernel]

I'm thankful that the 120 limit exists

[fluid pollen]

Same

Would’ve died 3 times over now

💀

[pale yoke]

10xhh monthly is like 30 bucks here

[summer kernel]

AK gacha must really suck for the big whales though.

[fluid pollen]

As long as you don’t try to p6 everything ig

[pale yoke]

good thing i identify as f2p

[fluid pollen]

But still much cheaper than cursed hoyo.

[summer kernel]

I identify as lucky. Doesn't help my wallet though

[orchid bane]

Um no .

Still think I can clear the store

[fluid pollen]

I identify as average luck just to cope

[pale yoke]

ill bring a shovel and dig deeper

[fluid pollen]

But it doesn’t look very average.

We shld go grave robbing

Maybe we’d hit gold

[pale yoke]

i have a joke there but i dont want to get ban

so ill just 🤐

[summer kernel]

😶 chat is literally 1984

[pale yoke]

discord smh my head

oh i heard there's going to be a id check implementing soon

you guys ready?

[summer kernel]

Going to have to change your name in a couple weeks, noods

[fluid pollen]

We shld not stand for censorship

[pale yoke]

[fluid pollen]

Will keep as long as they don’t take it away.

it’s just a short form

[fluid pollen]

Time to read have book.

[summer kernel]

Cya then. I think it's straight up that black mirror episode where we can't interact with you unless you KYC

Since you got that lewd NSFW username

[fluid pollen]

Buh

Is wheat nsfw

[summer kernel]

Yeah, gotta add -le to that disgusting name

[pale yoke]

my name is based on a book too

[fluid pollen]

[pale yoke]

🫵

[viral anchor]

gg

[empty raven]

Guys sorry for the rotation for LMD , Which pin decribes best for the rotation?

[rigid plume]

Best Teams and Combo guide

Seek TP

Ideally you want Proviso and Shamare+Tequila team.

[empty raven]

Idt i have shamare :D, tequila holon

[rigid plume]

Then just scroll down, pick highest OrderEff% and that's all.

[empty raven]

this is on the "how to rotate your base" video?

[rigid plume]

I refer to Google sheet link in pins

Honestly didn't saw the vid

[empty raven]

btw in ur opinion whats the max amt of LMD a base can produce a day?

[rigid plume]

Ideally you want at least 40k/daily.
I earn about 50k average (jumps between 40k and 60k).
Saw some can earn 70k+.

[empty raven]

oh damn

[rigid plume]

Basically concentrate on 40k.

And you will rarely have a LMD problems.

[empty raven]

Bengal do u mind if i stream my current condition

[rigid plume]

Ummm

Sorry

No

[empty raven]

oki

[valid storm]

warhammer?

[hasty tiger]

Yes if you focus on the emperor's glory your lmd problems will definitely be fine

[rigid plume]

Ha-ha.

[pallid isle]

over here playing war hammer 90K with cursed proviso and your playing 40K

[glad hill]

UPD: I also decided to divide the PP shift so that there is space for everyone in the dorms

I finally e2d Laios, Senshi, Delphine and Kichisei (the last one with the e2 ticket, thank you minievent that just made me spontaneously waste 1,5 billion LMD) and turned in the first shift of the first rotation

though some of it requires for others to already be working, so I added some of the guys from the second rotation who werent working yet
I'll switch them with the guys who are supposed to be in their place in the morning

[glad hill]

Shoes, my CC isn't full on the pic
Shift 1 has swire and shift 2 has kroos2

[hallow turret]

Everything seems nice so far yeh? Btw what r i i c stand for

[obtuse shell]

does shamare team pay for itself?

or is that jsut cope?

[pallid isle]

what do you mean pay for itself? if your talking ROI no its years to pay off

even tequilla which i believe is the fastest operator to pay off for e2 after proviso is a couple of years

shamare not sure but i am guessing a bit more then that

[obtuse shell]

im trying to justify who to level in terms of the shitty training drill event

[obtuse shell]

this shit

[pallid isle]

i mean just raise stuff your going to use in stages

[obtuse shell]

i aint raising no useless band girls but if its an excuse to make shamare team im tryinna justify making it

[pallid isle]

dont raise for base

[obtuse shell]

https://youtu.be/Nrij0l_coKg?si=s_hUOAa6H4X8o2lL

here the vid if u wanna knoiw what i mean

[pallid isle]

i mean the band girls are quite strong 5 stars (besides i suppose nyamu) but putting that aside still

you can do whats shown there in that video with any group of 5*

and even if theres literally 0 5* that you wanna use somehow......... you get the sanity back anyway

if your gonna raise just for base then i would say tequilla and shamare are the best 5* after proviso to do

[obtuse shell]

lol there isnt a single 5 op i wanna use, hence you now reached my point of thinking shamare team who is entirely unraised

[pallid isle]

might as well then

you ultimately get the sanity anyway

so it pays for itself in cost

theres 0 reason for anyone to not raise 5* at this time basically

[fluid pollen]

It’s on the loading screen when you click base.

[hallow turret]

[fluid pollen]

And also in the channel bio.

[orchid bane]

[ember hull]

Are there important base teams to note as a beginner? (Other than vermeil)

[orchid bane]

Another dupe

[tight island]

I cannot open Google Docs via my phone rn, but if I need purely LMD for now, 2-4-3 is better right? (3 trade posts).

[summer kernel]

No 243 means 2 TP, 4 FAC, 3 PP. You can run 342 but running 252 and droning LMD is recommended for most usecases

[tight island]

How much precious materials I need to produce? 2 factories?

[ember hull]

For a beginner account, this cc rotation is ok right?
0: amiya, scav, doberman, sakiko, wakaba
12: scav, doberman, durnar, sakiko, wakaba
24: doberman, durnar, amiya, krooster, lavalter
36: repeat from 0

Also hi dango good to see you here

[rigid plume]

Ideally yes

If you feel you're producing too much gold, you swap one for EXP

[tight island]

I do exist here. Yes. Not so active compared to Endfield tho

[glad hill]

wait what
why is the sui siblings' MD faster

[orchid bane]

They are immune to everything but themselves

[glad hill]

But Ling's skill says that it only cancels morale REDUCTION effects... how....

Is the Sui combo just... fundamentally broken?

[orchid bane]

Tbh . I don't know. That is just how things are

Maybe side effect of Ling skill

[gleaming coral]

Allat and still only 40h?

[orchid bane]

That is not Gla with 4 AH

Maybe one of your AH in dorm

[fluid pollen]

Ling cancels all morale effects on Sui from other CC ops and themselves.

They’re not broken

Just take those terms as flavour text.

[glad hill]

They're broken because it makes the CC always last 32 hours meanwhile the rest of the base last for almost 36

[fluid pollen]

Well, they themselves last for 32 at most but doesn’t make them broken.

[glad hill]

This has to be a bug, why else would Dusk have a -0,05 self MD?

[fluid pollen]

Its not

[glad hill]

But it does, it puts them out of sync with the rest of the base

[fluid pollen]

Would you say Gladiia’s skill is broken?

[glad hill]

Seeing how we're probably not getting any more AHs, yes

[fluid pollen]

You have an odd definition and understanding of the word broken.

[orchid bane]

What they do is stay 32hr. Even if you put Morale Drain like Aak. Their working time stay the same

[glad hill]

I thought I already made it clear that for me it means out of sync

[glad hill]

Which goes directly against Chongy Boy's E2 skill where he lowers the MD for the rest of the base

Meaning that the Sui combo works less than the people they're buffing

[orchid bane]

Just make sure you get what they do

Also, only TP and fac working time is 36hr

[glad hill]

Chongyue buffs TP, FAC, PP, RR and HR

[orchid bane]

The number 36 is what you said for the rest of the base

[fluid pollen]

You might as well say that the rest of the base including the CC is broken too.

Bc they don’t have innate MR.

[worthy marsh]

why is finishing pinboard bad for my base?

[rigid plume]

Because it orders you to level up Reception Room

But that is bad

If you play 252 setup

[orchid bane]

Puny 1 time claim vs eternal glory

[glad hill]

And I still got it a little wrong bc when Mulberry isn't in cc there isn't an extra 20 WP, meaning that the base has only -0,35 MD and not -0,45

[obtuse basalt]

guys is my factory bad i feel like it is? (i bricked my acc little with office )

[worthy marsh]

so i'll missed the reward then?

[rigid plume]

Yes

[worthy marsh]

huh

[rigid plume]

Unless you wanna ruin your base

Permanently

Because you cannot downgrade right side buildings.

[worthy marsh]

im still at here did i completely ruined it?

[rigid plume]

Texas should have Reception Room upgrade mission, yeah

You completely skip it

Like it's never exists

Texas too

Not a big deal to have her now

[worthy marsh]

i see

what is 252 setup?

[rigid plume]

2 Trading Posts, 5 Factories, 2 Powerplants.

Due to extra Factory, you have limited energy and cannot waste it elsewhere.

So you try to max only Workshop and Training Rooms since it's your way to max your ops.

And Trading Posts and Factories to max out production.

The production itself from level doesn't seems to be big that you should worry, you relay on your ops working here

So some of them won't be maxed, but Lv2 at most

It's effective than 243

Lazy setup which allows to max out whole base

And those restrictions doesn't mean anything to such players.

But they lose more production that way.

Even max right 252 is better than 243.

[worthy marsh]

i pretend i get it

[rigid plume]

Minmaxing your base, basically

[worthy marsh]

hold on so maxing the factories, trading post and power plant are necessary? is that it?

[rigid plume]

Yep

Additionally you wanna Workshop and Training Room

Training Room for making Masteries on your ops
And Workshop making materials to Training Room for making Masteries on your ops

The rest is skippable af.

Dorms levels upgrades the recovery speedup, which doesn't do much if you rotate every 12-24h easily.

Office adds 2 more slots, but you're fine using only 2 starting and it doesn't benefit the tag gain.

And Reception Room unlocks SupportUnit slots and Friends size.

But why helping others than you can help yourself...

And Activity Room doesn't consume Energy

So they're free buildings.

[worthy marsh]

🫡

[glad hill]

Is there a reasonable way to mix the WP and PI teams to maximise the output for both of them

[glad hill]

putting Eben, Ros and MN in one shift won't do btw because there can only be either Mulberry or Whisperain in the HR at the same time, so MN and Eben 2 should be either in different shifts or in different TPs and sometimes intersect

If only there was an op for TP/PP/FAC that could convert PI into WP or vice versa...

[modern atlas]

this one is done the base right?

my base generating around 45k lmd

[orchid bane]

Good

[viral anchor]

is it paricularly good to lvl up your dormitories after reaching lvl 5 conrol center

or is it not worth it

[orchid bane]

Dorms levels give you some credit and se RR speed

[viral anchor]

nnnevermind

it wastes power

[orchid bane]

Yes it does

[viral anchor]

im at the limit tho

540/540

[orchid bane]

Factory level perform better

[viral anchor]

should i like lower the lvl of some of the factories

or leave them like this

[viral anchor]

also wdym by that

[orchid bane]

Than dorm level

[viral anchor]

ah

eye see

lemme check my lmd production again

damn

its getting lower and lower

[spark sapphire]

Always prioritize trading post and factory levels

[pallid isle]

There's some rotations that just leave dusk and ling for the full time and run both idk if it's best or what entirely you have but I do remember this being a thing

You get production spread out this way

And can run them for more then 1 shift

I need to double check some older rotations

[pallid isle]

Actually not even old

Gato rotations show some options

Since he uses everything ros and Mr nothing

You can look at the base combos guide it's on the front page since I cant seem to link myself lol

[limpid frost]

does anyone know what the clock in the riic report is supposed to indicate?

[limpid frost]

also, are there any operators with Tailoring β equivalents that are worth e2ing for gameplay?

[astral tiger]

The time saved with the extra prod%

if u check a fac u can see on the bottom it shows time saved

the clock shows the total

[spring plover]

diamante only needs e0 for bad right

in shamteqdiamante

[limpid frost]

diamante at e0 is equivalent to Tailoring α

[spring plover]

Aren’t bibeak’s and diamante’s skills the exact same

and bibeak only needs e0 right

[limpid frost]

bibeak has Tailoring α at e0

[spring plover]

alr

proviso setup is level 2 tp + any random 30% worker right

[queen flicker]

the highest % worker you have

[worthy marsh]

i still dont get on why the restriction to upgrade the base to lvl 5? i know that once i upgrade it there is no turn back but why though does it break something once beyond that?

[rigid plume]

You mean CC Lv5? This one is free to do.

[worthy marsh]

yeah

[vernal moss]

if i have 1 lv3 tp, 1 lv2 tp, 4 lv3 fac and 1 lv2 fac, should i downgrade a lv3 fac and upgrade the lv2 tp bc i dont have enough good fac slaves to fill all those extra slots and the lv2 tp has shitty prod%

[orchid bane]

You have Proviso or no ?

[glad hill]

Well at least the other shift doesn't have that bs and makes both themselves and the rest of the base last... 53 hours

How is this possible? I thought the math for this was 24 hours times the innate bonus of having 5 ops in the CC plus whatever bonuses they provide for themselves and others (so 24x1,45, which should be 34,8)

[orchid bane]

Last OP is alter ?

[glad hill]

Yeah, Kroos2

Made it so that both the CC and the base have 0,45

[orchid bane]

2 alter. each count 3 alter (Wis there) so total -0.05*6 = -0.3

[glad hill]

Should've also been 0,45 for the other shift w/ chongy boy but...

[glad hill]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh

My bad lmao

[orchid bane]

Morale drain per hr . 1-0.25-0.3=0.45

[glad hill]

Should be able to fix this if I replace Kroos2 with some other alter with no MD reductions, right?

[orchid bane]

Fix what ?

Working long is good . so what you wanna fix ?

[glad hill]

Get it to 0,45

Although working 53 hours could make up for just 32 that the Suis do hmm

[orchid bane]

0.45 is what you have in your screen

[glad hill]

0,45 is for the base, rn we're talking bout cc

wait shoes how do we come from 24 to 32 if a quarter of 24 is 6

[glad hill]

There, now it's jut 40

Wait no then it's only 0.4 darn

goddamit why are the no alters with a smiley face

[median hull]

does more ambience in activity rooms give more trust

[vernal moss]

yes, she in lv2 tp but with only 1 other slot, the efficiency is ass

highest i have is 40% bc i dont have the sui gimmick team or whatever and tbh i dont like using that kind of skill anyway

and i originally downgraded that tp bc i needed extra power, so if i wanna upgrade it again i gotta downgrade a fac

[orchid bane]

Do you know what Proviso do ?

Just use 35% or 30% whatever you have with her

[vernal moss]

ye but more efficiency still gud right?? whats the point of getting 5 gold order every time if you get 1 order every 10 years lol

[orchid bane]

It is not like "oh. I don't have 40%, so efficiently is ass"

[subtle salmon]

whats a good standard base split?

[orchid bane]

Yes it is better BUT not that good better

[subtle salmon]

for beginner with thje necessary facilities maxxed

[vernal moss]

aight then guess i just stick with it

[orchid bane]

So unless you all drone on Proviso. But still your gold or EXP is too high. You could think about changing your strat

If that is not the case. Just stick with it

[vernal moss]

Which one is too high

[orchid bane]

Why not show your whole 3 day

In this report. Exp is too high

[hallow turret]

Is tis team fine or i should use the team with 20% + 30%

[vernal moss]

Wdym

Is there an option to see 3 days?? Why dont i see it lol

[vernal moss]

Wtf

Why did i never know this

[orchid bane]

[orchid bane]

Unlike factory The TP only take it to report when you claim it

[vernal moss]

Well it's 2pm rn so maybe that's why

[hallow turret]

Gang hep

[orchid bane]

Which ever higher you should use.

[vernal moss]

Is this good or nah

[hallow turret]

What ya mean

[astral tiger]

check the % they give, use the one which gives higher

[astral tiger]

41k aside it's decent

[hallow turret]

How ya do that

[vernal moss]

So...bad

[orchid bane]

The 122% in this pic

[astral tiger]

click on a tp on red side and it shows on blue sidie

[hallow turret]

Oo ok ty

[astral tiger]

60k+ is good

[orchid bane]

Also there. Lol

[vernal moss]

I'm alr droning a lot, my drones are never full

So why is it so low

[astral tiger]

unless you are claiming at the exact times daily, it will not be consistent

proviso rng with getting 2 or 3 gold orders

and shamare team ramp up time and rng

lots of factors

[vernal moss]

Rip

[astral tiger]

I'm assuming for the 2nd day u claimed stuff before reset and didn't do so for the 3rd so your gain is showing low

dw about it too much tho since the report only shows what u claimed and not what u produced

[orchid bane]

Also. What I am talking about is LMD exp goldbar in your depot. Not your report

[astral tiger]

as long as you're reaching the good thresholds, it's fine

cuz yeah lots of rng

[vernal moss]

Aight

[orchid bane]

The point where you could consider changing your strat is maybe when you used up something LMD or EXP. And there are still many of the opposite left, and it keeps pilling up

Or goldbar keep pilling up

Lots of RNG outside base tho

[vernal moss]

Ye i have 1 flex fac just for this

With only general +prod% skill slaves

[glad hill]

Why do only TPs actually show when they'll run out of morale and factories show whatever?

[hallow turret]

Do "bigger better" of bubbles skill work with vermeil

Skill

[orchid bane]

Flex fac just help you swap your gold and exp. It won't help when you don't make enough LMD

[astral tiger]

for all cases it shows when the units run out of morale or cap gets full

[glad hill]

Ah okay

[astral tiger]

for rr and hr it shows when u get the next clue and refresh

[vernal moss]

Ye i meant when i have too much of 1 thing and not enough of another

Anyway ig im supposed to buy bibeak from gold cert shop?? Not sure where else i can get her

[orchid bane]

Who do you have now ?

[glad hill]

Wait then why does it show the same amount of morale in TPs as in the CC?

[astral tiger]

same thing, they are running out of morale at that time or the order limit is going to max out

[glad hill]

But the order limit is only 10

[astral tiger]

yeah, so?

I don't think I'm getting your point

Alternatively u can just calculate it

divide the current morale by morale consumed per hour and u can see if it's the cap maxing out or your ops going down

[glad hill]

How can they last 53 hours at -0,45 MD if that's the same amount of time the -0,5 CC lasts?

[astral tiger]

Anyone of them provide extra md?

cuz it doesn't show up in the total

[glad hill]

No it's just the Glasgow team

[astral tiger]

as an example for my shamare team, they get -0.25MD extra so total morale consumed/hr is 1 - 0.1 - 0.15 - 0.25 coming to 0.5

22/0.5 = 44hrs

[astral tiger]

then u didn't take into account the extra -0.1MD from lvl 3 fac

1-0.55 = 0.45
24/0.45 = 53.33

[glad hill]

Wisadel+CE make the base have 0,45, Wisadel+Lava2+Kroos2 make the CC have 0,5
And yet both the TPs (seemingly the only buildings to show proper time remaining) and CC have pretty much the same amount of time left. What gives?

[glad hill]

what

[astral tiger]

if a lvl 3 tp is fully filled u get an extra 0.1

as shown in the grey here

[glad hill]

So you mean to tell me that only mlynar can make the left and right sides of the base work equally

[astral tiger]

idk about chongyue but yes

[glad hill]

I am never balancing ts out holy moly

[astral tiger]

wis can't make them equal unless u put an alter

[glad hill]

Oh yeah him too