r-i-i-c

[swift moon]

thnx

[pallid stump]

you can use diamante as a substitute for bibeak in the shamare + teq + bibeak combo right?

[orchid bane]

Parpika, kafka, all the same

[loud remnant]

I think I have replacement?

[little ledge]

What is this?

Non activity room facility does this means right side?

[orchid bane]

Upgrade 10 facilities lv 3

Glad that they don't forget to add Non- Activity room there

[jade mortar]

im in an incredibly deep lmd hole due to mods on mlynar lemon exuialter ray and eventually ulpianus and tragodia. im very flush on exp cards rn, but my deficit in lmd is currently at least 1.5mil in just module costs alone, not counting the extra >1.5mil needed on levelling and promoting. does it make sense in my case to simply shift to a 3-4-2 setup so i can start generating more money? ive looked at the riic sheets and the increased gen seems pretty good.

3mil in the red while xp cards are still doing fine just feels pretty bad

[quartz sorrel]

What dorm set came with Yu's event?

Is it the Dinglenglou teahouse?

[valid storm]

Ding Feng Lou Teahouse and Peace All Year Round sets

[quartz sorrel]

oh there were 2 sets? interesting, thanks ❤️

[indigo robin]

Um there's something bothering me when rotating in control center. My 1st and 2nd rotation have jessica alt and others but not all the same i have like 1 or 2 units different. But when i rotate it always directly rotate to 3rd rotation. Is there a way to fix this It's annoying having to manual it

[valid storm]

Yes, Limited banners always have at least 2 sets

[jaunty notch]

if you're confident in your xp stock and 252 full TP drone is not enough for you, swap to 342 yeah.

but switching from lv3 fac to lv3 tp takes almost the entire stash of drones, so maybe just another lv2 tp will do

[jade mortar]

makes sense

[jaunty notch]

depends on your combos p much

[jade mortar]

i just feel like the math makes sense, its just that character building ratios nowadays have changed due to the addition of mods and shit throwing the ratio a little off

[jaunty notch]

tbh I'd just chill over it

do m3s first

mod lv1

then gradually get them up

[jade mortar]

that makes sense

[jaunty notch]

do 3 gold 2 xp, full drone tp and you'll maintain gold stash while raking up cash

[jade mortar]

im probably just hypersensitive to ratio since im a serial character builder

but yeah ill just keep it on 342 for maybe 4 months and then swap back

252 is p good in terms of absolute gen

[jaunty notch]

if your gold stash is good then yeah

[jade mortar]

actually given proviso on 2 tps and droning tps is pretty much gold neutral for me, 342 probably has to drone gold then

i use my lvl 2s on gold

[jaunty notch]

then you'd just be having the same amount of exchange rate p much

but more trouble

since that's the case and if your gold stash is not that high, just stick to 252

[jaunty notch]

the outside preset swap button avoids the preset with lowest morale in each facility if there are 3 presets. Since your 1 and 2 share some ops, it considers either one the lowest morale and avoids them.
You can either fix it by leaving only 1 and 3 then manually change 1 into 2, or go in and use the inside preset swap button for 3 everytime you need it.

[wind otter]

don't worry, module data block bottleneck will eventually make you forget your LMD troubles

[pallid stump]

is there a tool to filter base skills?

[frank cipher]

it's best team n no team come close, your replacement better put on sub, better grab him while can

[inner ocean]

What clue operator gives #2s? I've been seeing patterns now that #2s are easily given more than #7s (Angelina isn't relevant in normal content so that one makes sense).

[valid storm]

you can always check out /clue in #bot-spam and I will update it soonish

(so in the next month)

[jaunty notch]

sort by skill and they'll show, but it's mostima may

300 credit weekly from board too wrys

[valid storm]

we have 2 clue 2 and 3 clue 3 and 5 clue 5 bias operator

[valid storm]

so many things to fix

[tidal cobalt]

Is it worth to e2 tequila team just for base?
All 3 is still e1 lvl1

[jaunty notch]

you should e2 sham first

[frank cipher]

he go e0 30% to e2 60%. still shama is core at 90%. 3rd op worth e2 for base.

[tidal cobalt]

Cuz thinking of it is worth to change to sham teq +1 team from
Jaye texas and lapland

[frank cipher]

e2 shama/teq : 124% 30%gold
Jay teq lapp : 121%
last op in sham/teq : 15-30% e0/e2 making total prod 180%
that's worth 50% proviso in lvl2 tp
once done Jay team fine to put in sub or 3x40%

[little ledge]

Chat i'm gonna upgrade 1 tp and 1 fac the question is which factory should i use for xp and which for gold,since both lvl 2 and 3 fac can produce both

Currently 5 fac 1 lvl 3 4 lvl 2 with lvl 3 making gold and 4 making xp
as for tp,i can do proviso for now

[pallid stump]

if ur using proviso better leave that TP at lv2 instead of getting it to lv3, and for fac you'll want 2 gold 2 exp 1 flex

[quartz sorrel]

does e2 lemuen work well w anyone inn base?

[little ledge]

I can have 1 lvl 3 tp and 1 lvl 2 tp right

[pallid stump]

exu2, plume, ambriel, etc

like ambriel + exu2/exu1 + lemuen = 106% acquisition efficiency iirc

[quartz sorrel]

this is for tp right?

can both exu 1 and 2 be active at the same time?

[pallid stump]

it is for TP, idk about the later though, cause I dont have normal exu to test it out

[pallid stump]

ye the lv2 TP is for proviso and another one, pair her with the highest raw productivity, and the other TP, shamare + tequila + bibeak/mitm/diamante/kafka/paprika if you can

[swift moon]

guys wheres the link for the trust gained in main assistant thing

[swift moon]

lvl 3 tp proviso isnt gud?

[pallid stump]

ye it isnt, cause you're actively killing her 2nd base skill

[swift moon]

i need to read more ig

[pallid stump]

tp lv 3 has a chance to yield 4 pure gold trade, when trade is 4 gold or more proviso's 2nd base skill doesnt get activated

tp lv 2 will always guarantee you a less than 4 pure gold trade -> you'll get minimum 1k5 LMD per trade and maximum 2k5 LMD per trade

tp lv 3 = minimum 2k, maximum 2k5 but you could have use that extra energy from tp lv 3 for something else to min max your base

[swift moon]

so i jist run a lvl 2 tp for proviso and use the extra power for dorms?

[pallid stump]

use the extra power for dorms or whatever you need, maybe get another fac to lv 3 if you're playing 252

[swift moon]

all my factories r lvl mac

[pallid stump]

ah ye then do some dorms, faster moral recovery

I already fck up my 252 settings due to going reception lv3 and office lv3 so I'm stuck with 243

[swift moon]

also should i just throw in whatever combo when proviso is downtime?

[pallid stump]

ye, personally I use gummy + midnight
for the lv3 TP, when your teq + shamare + bibeak combo is down you can use exu2 + lemuen + ambriel like I said above

[swift moon]

also this

[frank cipher]

upgrade fac

[pallid stump]

I have no idea sry, maybe ask mods

[swift moon]

i rember i saw it int the spreadsheet but then now i can find it

[ember zinc]

Hi guys, have a quick question:

if we compare a 243 vs a 252 maxed right, which is better? Assuming we have all the best base combos in the game

In 243, the best available combos (if I’m not wrong) are:

1. Automation team
2. Pinus team
3. Vermiel EXP
4. Bryo Gold

Assuming we have Mlynar, all teams would be working for 36 hours, Vermiel’s team will be working for 60 hours

On the other hand, with 252 maxed right and one Lvl 2 TP(Proviso), there will be 2 lvl 3 factories.

Which would perform better?

[agile escarp]

can i use three of those with all e0 ( expect vermeil )

[visual gull]

No. They will perform worse than the basic 30% exp worker.

[agile escarp]

so can i use vermil + 30 % exp

or i can send you my krooster

[visual gull]

Just use the 3x30%

[visual gull]

If you dont have this raised yet

Actually the spreadsheet is clear enough to explain it.

[agile escarp]

i dont show the % of e0

so

[visual gull]

Verm combo use the bonus CAP so she can turn it into %2 for each CAP.

Wulfenite and Figurino has none of those CAP until E2.

So you got this.
16% + 20% + 20%

Also, verm is better to use for exp rather than gold worker

[agile escarp]

in exp team i only have click

can i send you my krooster and you help me build a factory

just need to it to work

[visual gull]

Uhm sure. Ig

[agile escarp]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/duy6800

CONTROL CENTER
1 yatoalt+ noirecornalt+ wisadel +civilight+kroosalt
2 amiya + monster + random
TRADING POST LVL 3
1 jayce+ texas+ lap
2 gummy+ quartz+ midnight
TRADING POST LVL 2
1 exu ( normal )+ lemuen
2 Proviso + MH
OFFICE
1 Ethan
2 whisperian

my base expect for factory

powerplant and receptiont dont matter

my base is 252

[old bison]

why are there 2 quartz

[agile escarp]

idk

i also dont have suzuran

[old bison]

wdym "idk" how are you putting quartz twice into the same team

[agile escarp]

oh

i see

uh

i think it

midnight

or sb with +30

[old bison]

oh

[wind otter]

Quartz alter confirmed

[spare pivot]

where

[agile escarp]

i thought you said in my krooster

[old bison]

dw about it

[spare pivot]

NAHH I AILL

[old bison]

well lets see if you can figure it out from messages above

meanwhile yume is cooking up something big

[visual gull]

Cc is fine
TP1: is fine for now, you dont have the necessary ops for now.
(Shamare + Teq +
Tailoring ops: diamante, bibeak, paprika, kafka) TP2: is fine too since no fia yet. Otherwise Proviso can stay forever with any of your highest %.
But you need to E2 proviso for better gains.

Fac1 gold: Waifu (E2), Aroma(E2), PureStream (E1)
Fac2 gold: Haze, Spot, Gravel (get her from recruitment with fast redeploy tag +7.40 hours)
Bonus if you have byrophyta later to increase the efficiency slightly more.
Fac3 Exp: Shirayuki, Vigna
Fac4 Exp: Frostleaf, Totter
Fac5 flex: anything you can get your hands on. At least used 25% at minimum. Someone like Steward, Jessica, vanilla. Asbestos, Popukar etc.

Note: majority 4★ needs E1 to have their base skill to work. While 5★ needs an E2.

Also, those are the bare minimum investments you can do right now.
There are many rooms to upgrade.

[agile escarp]

i have 30k lmd left

who name waifu

[visual gull]

The one above scavenger

[agile escarp]

i think the web is broken

i dont have waiifu nor mr nothing

[visual gull]

Ehh.. but isnt that your krooster?

You have them. Check on the specialist class

[agile escarp]

ohi do have mr nnothing

but notwaiffu

and suzuran

[visual gull]

Zz beside robin

[agile escarp]

oh

mb

i thought he a 6 star

[visual gull]

I think it was she

[agile escarp]

can i do any thing about fac1 gold if i cant e2 them

i dont have lmd now

[visual gull]

Uhh.. can try gravel, spot +25% I guess.

At least that will do for now.

[agile escarp]

k

thanks

[agile escarp]

oh what about the rotation

[visual gull]

A little tip. To make a temporary team composition. You only need to focus on that yellow number (the productivity one).

Just try to mix and match and get the highest possible result you have for now.

[agile escarp]

so each factory only have 1 present ?

[visual gull]

Each factory has a different one. Yes

[agile escarp]

i thought we need 2

[visual gull]

No. Not the workers.
By one I mean those number

[agile escarp]

i still dont understand

what if the worker ran out of morale

[visual gull]

No. Im not talking about rotation lads.

[agile escarp]

so i only care about productivity

i want to know more about rotations

[visual gull]

Thats how you figure it out which operator that works for you (since you dont have a necessary ops for combo yet)

Put someone inside the fac and look into this number.

You want the highest number you can get

[agile escarp]

so for rotation i just put random ?

[visual gull]

Yes. For now..
While you build your base slave

[agile escarp]

thanks

so now my goal is e2 waifu aroma , diamante , bibeak , parika ?

[visual gull]

I'll start with something cheap first. Like e1 the 4★ in here. E1 lvl1 is enough

[agile escarp]

which 4 star tho

[visual gull]

You can look it up. The name of the ops is right there.

[visual gull]

E2 diamante, paprika/ bibeak is your least priority. Even you can get away with E0 on their case.

[agile escarp]

k

thanks

i will get into work

[visual gull]

Good luck. Take your time to build them

[agile escarp]

do i need to e1 jayce tho ?

[visual gull]

No. He is fine

Do the factory worker one

[agile escarp]

ok

[wind otter]

[spare pivot]

[agile escarp]

@visual gull so my lowest production on factory is +0.32 it is okay

[visual gull]

Is it lvl2 factory?

Lvl1 factory?

[agile escarp]

the lowest

i only have lvl 3 and 2

the +0.32 is lvl 2

[visual gull]

So 2 15% ops?
I mean, you should have someone better right?

[agile escarp]

i ran out of op

[visual gull]

It should be fine then.. if that your current highest %

Take your time lads

[agile escarp]

k

[queen flicker]

is there anything i can improve on this rotations? what do you think?

i'm trying to get castle with 3:50 guard recruits but no luck so far. i'll get proviso with the next 5* selector. also theres a few workers i could e2 but only if they are also atleast decent or fun to play with. proviso is the exception

like for example i'm fine with e2ing thorns alter. but not diamante. i can share my operators and you give me your thoughts

[swift moon]

guys wheres the imgur link for the trust gained as main assistant

[jaunty notch]

https://imgur.com/a/xN6qNhq

https://imgur.com/a/Jm1YeMR

@swift moon

[swift moon]

thnx

[loud remnant]

@visual gull can you do one for me

i need handholding with base

would be grateful if you could help thanks

i aent my unit in this chat above

if you can help you can check my op by checking messages from me

[polar wing]

what purpose do construction assistants serve in the control center

[visual gull]

Base assistant? It is to get more trust points for that particular operator. (Twice a day: during the first reset and 12 hours after that)

[visual gull]

Uhh okay. But it seems that you need to build a lot of stuff

[loud remnant]

Op for base?

I'm pretty sure I got enough

[visual gull]

Yes

What about you send your current rotation here. So we can work it out faster

[unique mauve]

@jaunty notch sorry to bother you, but there is an error in the sheet. It says in the tr section that Contrail unlockes the tr skill at e1 whil in fact it's at e2

she's such a special kid

[torn meteor]

bibeak has the same base skill as diamante but shes far more functional if you look at her skills

i dont get why factory 3 isnt staggering when all the other ones that can are

[unique mauve]

wrong channel sir

[blazing yarrow]

Ty

[queen flicker]

ty for the insight, i simply forgot

[torn meteor]

lmaoooo valid

[jaunty notch]

I put it as E1 assuming they'll fix it like how Totter used to have it as E2 for his other skill. But I'll change it back to avoid any further mistakes. Ty

[knotty flax]

which is better? cursed proviso/tequila or shamare team (cursed tequila) (in TP3)

[arctic prism]

Cursed proviso tequila

[loud remnant]

the current rotation does not exist

im returning player

so my base is currently empty

[gilded swan]

I levelled my office to level 2 for the campaign quest, is there no way to downgrade it? or do i have to just keep a factory/trading post at level 1

[finite magnet]

Do I build the areas beside office?

[rigid plume]

And no Reception too.

The Workshop and Traning Room is Lv3, yes.

[finite magnet]

another question

is orundum farming base build good?

[pale yoke]

no

[summer kernel]

Depends on your goals but orundum farming is very expensive. You get ~3 pulls a week if you spend all your natural sanity and a majority of the gold/lmd you make in base

[loud remnant]

@visual gull

[thorny mason]

btw is there a reason why degen teams aren't listed in the google sheets guide? Seems to me like she can get +100% with silverash and croissant/bison/sand reckoner/dungeon meshi guy

116% if you go degen+SA+full monhun

[frank cipher]

really? she in Special team as sub. other than that might be less or same %

[visual gull]

Cc:

1. myl, kals, swire + 2 smiley °
2. gnosis, amiya, CE + 2 smiley

tp1:
shamare + teq + kafka (e0/e2)
sa + degen + jaye
tp2:
proviso + quartz
og exu + lemuen (e2)

fac1: exp °°
feater (e0/e2) + frostleaf + shira
totter (e1) + steward + jessica
fac2: gold °°°
spot + gravel + purestream
any 25% or more
fac3: gold
haze + perfumer
any 25% or more
fac4: exp
castle 3 + vanilla
any 25% or more
fac5: flexible.
anything you have left.
pp1:
gg & ifrit
pp2:
anything goes
office:
eyja & orchid
rr:
ines (e2) + caper (e2)

°this could be improved later once you have E2 flame tail eunectes & getting viviana
°°you could get a better exp team with a verm and pinus combo. (check pin no.4)
°°°once you have bryophyta (e2) from record restoration. you may swap purestream with him and stagger the gold worker.
meanwhile, use purestream on the lvl2 factory with weedy.
(check automation combo).

[loud remnant]

that's a lot of e2

[visual gull]

Thats barely anything

Kafka and feater can be the least priority

You may not even need kafka e2. Thats just an option.

Focus on the e1 first and e2 lemuen

Rr combo is also the least priority.

[loud remnant]

hmmm

aight thanks for the help

[normal lava]

should I remove one factory for another power plant to upgrade dorms?

(dont mind the red numbers)

[stoic spoke]

Lv1 dorms work fine for 12hr rotations

[normal lava]

hmm if u say soo

[round lichen]

Kafka E2 is account damage since she costs more DP and gains 0 extra sleep on s1

Outside of base

And in base, Diamanté and Bibeak both have her skill and they’re permanently available in shop

[winged hollow]

hey acer would you mind move astgenne pic down a little to see the text?

[urban orchid]

Hmmm... a bit unfair that with that icon level, this Holy Mixer only got +20% like Rope instead of 25% like Chen and Vigil

is this a bug?

[leaden grove]

Just combine a shift

instead of
AAA
AAB
ABA
BAA

just do
AAA
ABB
BAA

[queen flicker]

i dont get it

[torn meteor]

basically just use a 5th worker to slot in for one rotation, ill grab an example for you shortly

heres one way of doing it

and heres what
AAA
ABB
BAA
would look like

[queen flicker]

hmmm i still don't see what for example AAA represents. like in your example is A an operator?

it represents a rotation right?

[leaden grove]

Yes

The second picture is literally the same as the way I wrote it, but sideways

[visual gull]

Hmm.. I feel like I already explained this to him.

Welp. It is a different person #r-i-i-c message

Thanks for mentioning it.

[arctic prism]

idk why they're using AAAB... I'm also getting confused lmao
A B C
A B D
A C D
B C D

A B C
A D E
D B C

[fluid pollen]

Letter naming for no reason.

[wind otter]

of course we got nothing in SilverAlter event, we all know big chungus base update comes in Chinese New Year like pfft obviously, what were you thinking

[novel grove]

@craggy prawn you are flattering me. BlackGato and Pleghyas is far better than me.

Also, you can downgrade three of those dorms (into lvl1) in exchange for +1 factory level.

[torn meteor]

oh yeah is there any particular reason we dont really use eben as a proviso partner much? i get that his productivity is lower than mrnothing but when droning its about 2k lmd per day difference when droning(assuming max right, 2 lvl2gold 1 lvl3gold) and it can sustain burning drones there for about 8 days after droning gold for 1 day vs mrnothing needing to drone gold about every 2.5 days. thats my logic anyway, i havent done anything more than napkin math.

[arctic prism]

lower tp% and then that gets multiplied by proviso multiplier to inflate that %tp diff by quite a lot

there's also losing -20 wp for chongyue to make rotations tighter

i guess if you're using whisperain already tp% difference isnt as big

[wind otter]

"we" not using Eben, Eben all the way, all day

[arctic prism]

but still
38% (with iris czerny virtuosa in lv2 dorm) -> 69%
60% -> 109%
~40% tp diff

[torn meteor]

the main thing im thinking about is with mrnothing proviso you arent keeping up with gold demand anyway so its not that bad using like whisperain eben to make rosmontis a 74% worker

[fluid pollen]

split wp and pi and you use Eben everyday!

[arctic prism]

yea it's up to you whether you value 20% fac > 40% tp

bc that's essentially what the comparison comes down to

[torn meteor]

aight so mostly a preference thing?

[arctic prism]

i guess more of a what you're trying to do thing? there's probably some calculation that can be made that's like the objectively correct one to value but seems complicated and player goals specific

[fluid pollen]

it’s 39% btw gonna help my guy Eben out a bit.

[arctic prism]

it is...? wasnt it (10 + 20 + 20 + 20 + 2 + 2 + 2) / 2?

[fluid pollen]

Virtuosa is resonance.

She’s 5 SR / 2.

[arctic prism]

oh right right

[wind otter]

I would like to understand the fixation on LMD. Outside of people who farm Orundum constantly, or every day, I don't understand the need for so much money. Is it because since the base is more efficient producing LMD you want to be using the most efficient combos to get the most efficient numbers?

[torn meteor]

wait isnt mrnothing a 60% worker barring that one window where dusk and ling morale line up

[torn meteor]

my ass has such a long to build list i need so much lmd

[arctic prism]

i think for the most part it's just the most efficient thing you said yea

but also the game uses more lmd than exp

and for some reason even all the new people only care about lmd production numbers and completely disregard exp

[fluid pollen]

Then as for droning it might be easier to parrot to drone proviso than anything ig.

[torn meteor]

part of it is also theres less moving parts with exp

[wind otter]

I've pulled for and promoted to E2 lvl 90 every six star since Hoederer, I end up scrapping the barrel for EXP but always have millions of LMD left, I don't understand what is going on.

[arctic prism]

mr nothing is a 60% worker correct

[fluid pollen]

Even tho droning tp is like kinda + 0.

[arctic prism]

yep same

[wind otter]

I corrected a mistake in my post

[torn meteor]

oh wait is the 40% difference from proviso basically multiplying the productivity gap?

[arctic prism]

yep

[torn meteor]

there prob comes a point in peoples accounts where they are supposed to drone exp tbh

[fluid pollen]

Drone exp!

[arctic prism]

also though after i entered all my stuff into krooster and calculated what i need to theoretically max out everything i still needed lmd and xp in a 2:1 ratio so

idk what to think anymore lmao
i was on 153 bc of too much lmd compared to xp but switched back like a week or two ago after doing that experiment on krooster

[fluid pollen]

Om

[wind otter]

here's the issue though, you may need more LMD than EXP, but what does the game give you more of? Events, store packs, base, etc.

[arctic prism]

the xp droning 252 base reports also helped convince me to come back

[fluid pollen]

Just do 3 2 swap xp droning yep.

[arctic prism]

yea that's true too but i dont think it makes up for it

just brings the ratio down a bit

just long long term

[arctic prism]

started doing this but lowkey idk im still making too much gold somehow
am using mulberry + drone lmd to try and kill my stash of gold from when i was 153ing but it not going down

[torn meteor]

ok when droning exp you def want mrnothing as the proviso partner

it appears i have lmdbrain and its terminal

[fluid pollen]

The gold doesn’t go down yea

Huh but I think I don’t make as much gold as you?

[arctic prism]

i use pozy when exodia is dead (and im awake) but that shouldnt be for that long

[jaunty notch]

Yeah if you run out of gold just drone xp

[arctic prism]

but yea cursing + mulberry + droning lmd and gold reserves havent really changed i dont get it

[jaunty notch]

I’m running super low after just splurging for mods

Just means your gold is good

[arctic prism]

maybe i missed too many curses

[jaunty notch]

I used to curse and still get positive gold

[fluid pollen]

Interesting I just drone lmd and it goes down.

Drone exp and its constant.

[jaunty notch]

Only when i change automation rest shift to xp that it goes down

Otherwise 3 gold is too powerful

There’s also the glad shift that used eun instead of ascalon too

So trading +15 gold for 14 tp

[arctic prism]

hmm okok if you're saying that then my numbers make a little more sense

im also prioritizing amiya over eunectes rn

gold might be slightly dropping but maybe bc of month reset it doesnt feel that way

idk just expected it to drain way faster from general sentiment

[verbal tusk]

what's curse?

[jaunty notch]

idk

brother i was at 30 before monthly shop

imma bout to be poor too

but hey at least the 15m lmd in my account sees some use

right?

[arctic prism]

lmao

[arctic prism]

putting in proviso/tequila right before your order finishes then taking them right after
this is enough for them to apply the buff to the tp so you can use regular %tp workers and improve tp, you just have to come back before every order finishes

[craggy prawn]

Yo, I need help to update my base I guess. Cause I just found out I'm too poor considering how old my account is
https://www.krooster.com/u/plekkx

I'm open to suggestions

[verbal tusk]

[verbal tusk]

ic

[wind otter]

I just know that when I can still swim on EXP cards after promoting a bunch of 6 stars but then run out of LMD instead, then I can care about producing more LMD, but that is never the case, not even after spending most of my data blocks in modules and using LMD.

[arctic prism]

i will say

during my time in 153 my lmd drained at a pace of roughly

1 mil per year

saved up 20m before switching expecting it to drain

it never drained

[verbal tusk]

holy fuck

[arctic prism]

all i got in return was a stash of 2500 gold bars that i now dont know what to do with bc that shit aint draining either after coming back to 252

[verbal tusk]

342

[arctic prism]

im still exp poor man

[verbal tusk]

i had like, 1500 bars on my 243 before going to 252 after coming back?

must've droned gold forever

[verbal tusk]

drone lmd switch to 5 exps

[wind otter]

that is another thing, I've always produced LMD steadily, so maybe the LMD pressure can come naturally for people that directed LMD production elsewhere, like farming orundum for a while, it's like you are always trying to catch up to the LMD you didn't use on operators so EXP just lie there because you use them at the same time when promoting and LMD was used elsewhere, so the EXP that should have been used at the same time as the LMD wasn't, so the EXP cards are just like a poor soul without its lover

[verbal tusk]

i don't know how you're not draining tho if you're on 2g/3e unless you have a high end setup

[arctic prism]

im on 3g/2e 80% of the time and 4g/1e 20% of the time to use pozy while exodia is dead

[verbal tusk]

cuz i've def been draining on mine, but i'm basically low end + proviso + shamteq

[verbal tusk]

oh no wonder then

[arctic prism]

i think it's draining just at a snails pace

[verbal tusk]

nah 3g unless you have a monster tp setup is positive i think?

[arctic prism]

it is a monster setup lol

[verbal tusk]

you try a calc to check? i used this from pins when i was tuning: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14WzOA_cNpvG_PCHrtpxBgBpQWh4I1_TRgFPqk12W_lo/edit#gid=0

[arctic prism]

my rotations are too much of a mess (bc of attempts at trying to fit it to irl schedule) so I self calc
just havent gotten around to it with the 252 rot bc i have to change all my formulas from the 153 ones

[verbal tusk]

ah ic ye

[clear steppe]

if im farming orundum, do i always drone on factory?

[wind otter]

@orchid bane

[orchid bane]

Just drone on what you need

My drone personally on TP, some on exp

[wind otter]

You drone EXP?

[jaunty notch]

you can drone anything, and that depends on your needs. Drone shards to go back to xp/gold faster, drone tp/gold to have enough lmd for shards. If you need anything you drone for it

[orchid bane]

Around 20% of my drone

[wind otter]

hmm, hard to guess from your daily reports

[torn meteor]

speaking of reports i should open arknights again, its been like 10 hours and i dont want to forget

[remote bison]

how okay is 70%?

lvl2 office no curse

[jaunty notch]

good

[torn meteor]

70% is pretty good but also its training room anything above 60 is plenty

[remote bison]

[jaunty notch]

but if needed just use a m3 trainer if you need it

[remote bison]

now i can cope no eblana for caster

[torn meteor]

training room speed is prob the singular most useless base stat

it only matters if you want to do m3 testing day 2 of a character dropping

[remote bison]

the existence of yu also made me realize chongyue has a cap

[torn meteor]

yep lmao

[remote bison]

it used to puzzle me why wont it increase

coz atp i have every single sui

[torn meteor]

but ngl ive come to realize clue search speed is also pretty useless

any 5star or higher with a 20% clue speed skill is plenty

for that reason once i get mumu i will say fuck clues its rhine lab time

[remote bison]

more clue means;

1. friends like sending you back clue (subject to change)
2. credits to buy lowtier items which is more efficiency

[torn meteor]

overall its a relatively insignificant amount of efficiency and just using 20% 5stars is enough to buy most of the low tier items

or at least like all the gold, lmd, and rocks

[jaunty notch]

workshop is the most useless

no actual guarantee

[remote bison]

ril

[jaunty notch]

just a chance

[torn meteor]

ok yeah workshop is pretty damn bad

[jaunty notch]

with tr and rr at least you can see that you get more benefit from it

[remote bison]

strongest ever workshop skill

only for it to be 10 > 20%

💔

[jaunty notch]

ncd

guaranteed byproduct

and uses bricks

[remote bison]

we would be living in a dry wasteland if those carbon recipes too costed LMD

the whole CE-5

[torn meteor]

i love that the only meaningful crafting skill is on a collab operator

[hardy bronze]

been doing AO farm recently, but i wanna ask which one's the biggest bottleneck from most to least

time (to make shards and process orders)
LMD
sanity (for orirock)
something else i missed entirely

[leaden grove]

Sanity easily

Assuming you are making them as fast as you get them

[hardy bronze]

fair enough

wb time and lmd tho

assume i only have 1 month

[jaunty notch]

you get them way easier

all the shard ops are mostly low rarity

and not gated by e2 that much

lmd depends on your past investments and tendency to build new ops

[hardy bronze]

does running out of lmd actually happen

i happen to sit on a stack so idk if ill run into a problem later

[leaden grove]

Not if you still have 2 good trading posts

[hardy bronze]

yeah i dont run orundum 24/7

i exhaust the rock then go back pretty much

[leaden grove]

I did the math once and iirc it was like, in 7 days, your factory with +100% ops will make exactly as many shards as you can farm rocks

So it’s kinda balanced. You can stockpile rocks and run 2 or even 3 orundum shard factories for less time but that is where you might start to have lmd issues

[hardy bronze]

yeah i guess i do stockpile rocks

stockpile rocks until gladiia rotation
make shards until gladiia dies
switch back

[leaden grove]

Monthly card + one good factory and my lmd was at a stable plateu, only thing that suffered was exp but that was by choice

[torn meteor]

i wish we had more rhine lab ops with non factory skills, looking at things rn and the only way to meet mumu's 5 op requirement without killing dorm space is the dorothy factory + saria in RR + a rhinelab in workshop or something

[leaden grove]

Lava + midnight + chestnut is like 115%

Or maybe eyja in there somewhere

[hardy bronze]

i think im satisfied with 110% AH

at least AH is general

[torn meteor]

its fucked up that ifrit is only a 15% PP worker

[hardy bronze]

so i dont have to micro if for some reason i wanna produce gold instead of shards on a gladiia rot

[jaunty notch]

it's so ifrit alter will be 25% fr fr

[torn meteor]

TRUE

[torn meteor]

but what if as a sick joke they made ifrit alter a 10 unless you had 2 rhine labs other than her in power plants

[jaunty notch]

that wont happen cuz she won't count in muelsyes

she'll be fac worker instead

[torn meteor]

giving her the exualter treatment

[jaunty notch]

i mean hg def don't want to raise the ceiling anymore

they can work on the floors tho

snegu was that

[torn meteor]

snegu?

[jaunty notch]

cn op

just read the sheets

[torn meteor]

OHHHH THE AGENT

nobody talks about her ever so i forgot her name lmao

[jaunty notch]

she's the passenger powercreep

for non max right 252 dead lancet lv3 fac comp

[torn meteor]

[jaunty notch]

since even with dead lancet pas is only 25 in fac

works for just greyy alt comp too ig

243 weedy eun snegu

purestream freed from her shackles

[torn meteor]

true

but she can never escape base

[jaunty notch]

nobody escapes base

[torn meteor]

heaven forbid you try to take her out of 342

[jaunty notch]

you take her out of a lv2 fac

cuz cap

then into lv3

[torn meteor]

yep

i wonder if 70% rosmontis + waaifu will cap out too fast in a level 2 factory

[jaunty notch]

i had my shard fac capping in 6h

ros waaifu chestnut

it was fun

[torn meteor]

sounds like hell for my sleep schedule

im usually not up for at least 8 hours after i go to bed

(including time i just lay awake in bed ofc)

[jaunty notch]

just for future ref, you don't need to ping me if we're still in a conversation

just don't reply at all

this is the only channel i'm in anyway

[torn meteor]

tbh that was mostly habit then me forgetting to turn off ping, i have some friends who wander off mid conversation sometimes

i shall keep that in mind

[jaunty notch]

yeah i usually save the ping for important stuff in this server

mostly any edits and such

[torn meteor]

i see

one thing i kinda hope is that they try to make some combos less inconvenient to use (for example more good rhine lab workers, who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make mumu want 5 OTHER rhine labs)

more competent sui workers is also something id take

needing to micromanage my dorms workshop and training room for some ops is a hassle

the main offenders im thinking of for that are mumu and chongyue because we dont have 5 rhinelab/4sui that we fully WANT to use outside of them

like dorothy silencealt flex then MAYBE saria if you dont value clue speed much are our good non mumu rhinelab then ling dusk are our only good sui workers aside from chongyue

the 3-4 slots they want to eat outside of their competent workers means you WILL need to dip into your dorms to run both at once

sorry if it seems like im repeating myself i tend to ramble when im tired and ive been sick for the past 2 weeks

[spare pivot]

naruhodo

[uncut dome]

[wind otter]

[wind otter]

I would love a Sui version of Exu2's dorm skill

[fluid pollen]

But why

CY doesn’t count in dorm. 💢

Oh wait Dusk uptime?

[wind otter]

speed resting Dusk

[fluid pollen]

Sounds like it won’t happen then

[wind otter]

damn right

trim medal by clearing VEC-12 before day after tomorrow reset btw

[orchid bane]

Wait really?

They are making this kind of event again ? Old CC ?

[rigid plume]

Yes.

You have 23 hours to clear VEC-12

Otherwise no Trimmed for you.

[orchid bane]

Thank for saving my FOMO

Yesterday I was going to send 5 clue to buy exp but completely forgot, atm I have 8 clues, might be bad for today

[wind otter]

no, I was joking, no need to rush, forget what I said

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

[orchid bane]

The timer looks weird

I think it is like 4 hours after reset tomorrow

[wind otter]

yes, 4 hrs

[orchid bane]

But maybe it is typo

It is not like they have not been making this mistake before

Marcille banner ?

[wind otter]

Yostar making mistakes like this? Never. Not like they ever put the wrong end date of a banner or anything like that

[orchid bane]

Or Ela ?

Can't recall which one

[wind otter]

but on the other hand, 7:59 UTC is the new end of short maint timing

[wind otter]

iirc Marcille

[wind otter]

https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1ji3mwp/psa_last_day_to_roll_on_dunmeshi_banner

[orchid bane]

[spare pivot]

how do you know if you have the trim medal or not?

[orchid bane]

You will see trimmed there

[spare pivot]

it'll say it's trimmed?

[orchid bane]

Ye

Check your previous event

This one is easy one

[wind otter]

it will look like this

[spare pivot]

Ic ic

[spare pivot]

I won't be able to ge that

I'm waiting for low end squad

[wind otter]

don't worry, you're new so it's completly understandable. I was new when the original version of this event released: Interlocking Competition, and I couldn't clear shit in that event, it was brutal

[orchid bane]

Can we borrow op in the event ?

I think some oldbie can help you somehow

I haven't played the event so I can't tell

[wind otter]

yes, you can borrow

[wind otter]

this is going to end well

[orchid bane]

I was told it is not so hard

So Idk

[wind otter]

I cleared all stages without any buffs, outside of VEC-12, so it's doable, but I did it in several days without too much rush, I would be pulling my hairs if I had to do all that in a single day

actually, some of those stages have been the most fun I've had in a while in this game

[spare pivot]

ahh ic ic, I thought i was just ass

[orchid bane]

Did you get exu2 ?

And upgrade her ?

[wind otter]

this endgame content so it is harder, you may clear some of the first stages though

I recommend you do the garrison missions though, garrison and then release because you're roster is limited, you may get points to get some of the rewards

[orchid bane]

I think newbie should still have a way or two to clear the medal

[wind otter]

maybe there are guides for this out there, but I don't know, maybe kyo has a low rarity one

[spare pivot]

yes yes

[spare pivot]

e2 lvl 60

[spare pivot]

I'll keep that in mind

[spare pivot]

not any I'm seeing, it's only premium

[orchid bane]

https://youtu.be/JWDKO9qDCDU?si=O-ouhDBpgy0IzULt

Maybe this one can help you somehow

[spare pivot]

well shit, time to follow tis then

[orchid bane]

Eckogen is also good guide

[spare pivot]

This is the garrison ones

[orchid bane]

Just tried to find something

I don't want to watch anything

[spare pivot]

ig it's hard to do low star after stage 3

[orchid bane]

You will get there, when you want to do everything yourself

[spare pivot]

[spare pivot]

[wind otter]

what are the odds of this

[orchid bane]

There was a day when I have 2 sus

I don't use tag tho

[wind otter]

yeah, tags and everything, I be hunting for that last Specter pot

[valid storm]

same as getting a senior op tag

[wind otter]

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

Senior op tag om

It dun exist.

[torn meteor]

surely i can manage level 30 for the vulcan skin

my base is prob using vulcan bubble for a while since i dont have aroma and my pinus isnt built yet

[finite magnet]

Reception room level 1 is enough?

what is the cmd to find the rotation sheet?

[leaden grove]

I command you to click pins and then click on the 4th link

[civic kelp]

hi is there an orundum farming base setup i could copy

[jaunty notch]

generally any setup is fine, you just need to understand a few concepts in pin link 8 then head to pin link 4 for relevant base skills

[civic kelp]

alright

[civic kelp]

i assume currently its a good time to farm orundum

[jaunty notch]

yeah, down time no event

[round lichen]

You can do an orundum farm base whenever you want, but you’ll run out of rocks to make shards pretty quickly if you don’t run 1-7

[orchid bane]

@wind otter dat was fun

[wind otter]

I never doubted you or the person you paid to clear the stages for you

I can't believe I farmed a thousand cubes during E15 and most will be already gone by January

[valid storm]

With that whale account of yours...

[wind otter]

🐳

[wind otter]

the base in arknights should never have a blueprint system, every player should use their individual artistry to choose whether a power plant goes on the top or the bottom lane

[spare pivot]

[valid storm]

you can move them there

If you don't believe me, then I will sacrifice my production just to place all 3 at the bottom

[wind otter]

I'm not arguing against that, I am just stating the fact that if someone were to make a complex design such as that, the person must do the design on his/her own and not have it spoon fed by a filthy blueprint

[valid storm]

when you start playing you can have 1 floor and then you are forced to build a pp there

[wind otter]

hmm, I see, I see

problem is for people who had a pp since the beginning

[spare pivot]

what.......

[wind otter]

high stakes base layout discussion going on here, that's what

[orchid bane]

Wdym

I am f2p btw

[orchid bane]

I am no whale

[valid storm]

Then explain your P6 Lem and Exr

[orchid bane]

They are both my wives so they come home really fast

[wind otter]

f2p in the game, p2w in life

[orchid bane]

@valid storm is there any kind of stoopid mistake here that can easily be made and ruin my account forever like the last time ?

[wind otter]

[rigid plume]

Just vote whatever.

Votes are rigged anyway.

[valid storm]

yes

[orchid bane]

So how to avoid it ?

Choose left and right ?

[orchid bane]

Last time there were 2 furnitures that can be chosen in 2 days, if you choose the same side you will end up with 2 of a kind

[valid storm]

no, choose the same team

[valid storm]

you can obtain only one of the two

never both

[orchid bane]

What ?

We talked about it last time, iirc, I have 2 of a kind, some of you guys have both

[stoic spoke]

go left orange is cooler

[fluid pollen]

It was likely different events, and it came up twice.

[wind otter]

#r-i-i-c message

[fluid pollen]

And you chose the same option both times separately?

Yea.

[orchid bane]

Yea

That one

Like wth game

[orchid bane]

Was that the same event or a event run twice ?

[valid storm]

no, it never was possible to obtain both without cheats

or bug abuse

[orchid bane]

@valid storm Look at mine and vault's screenshot here

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-gif-gif-25024521

[valid storm]

Lemme check mine

[fluid pollen]

Smhge

[valid storm]

why do I have 2 of a furniture that's impossible to obtain twice

[orchid bane]

Time for wrys to reroll

[wind otter]

you're supposed to be the furniture expert here so I will just assume this is an open question

[valid storm]

you don't understand

these are linked to specific login events and these furnitures shouldn't appear again in any login event

[wind otter]

[orchid bane]

Well me and vault all have 4 of them

Sooooo

[valid storm]

and even I have 4 of them

which means that someone somewhere fucked up

[wind otter]

this has to be just Priestess trolling

[orchid bane]

Only vault here have 4 different kind

[valid storm]

yes, which means that HG reran them somehow

[wind otter]

[loud remnant]

who is CE?

[valid storm]

Civilight Eterna, chapter 14 welfare

[loud remnant]

shit I have to do chapter 14 for that?

what does she do in base

[loud remnant]

how much efficiency do you lose if iyou do not have teq and kafka e2?

i have shamare e2 only

[spare pivot]

which side did you choose?

[fluid pollen]

Wow not bricked

[spare pivot]

[frank cipher]

shama e2 teq e0 work.
only lose 80%

[spare pivot]

I thought that was gonna be an essay

[loud remnant]

jeez

[spare pivot]

[loud remnant]

should I look to e2 teq

i mean i don't really have anything else to do

also should i e2 kafka or papirika

[wind otter]

side?

[frank cipher]

e2 kafka optional for another 30% in shama teq.probably should if got resources

[loud remnant]

who is better to e2? papirika or kafka

[frank cipher]

you have fia?

no fia e2 1, got fia e2 both
i prefer kafka( for gameplay)
bibeak also same type so it's kaf/bibeak

[loud remnant]

hey can someone help me with this

[loud remnant]

nope

[loud remnant]

i don't have bibeak

so kafka best for e2?

[loud remnant]

so like for fac 1 and fac 2, i can just stagger?

like i don't think i need 6 operators for fac 1 right?

just 4 ?

[fluid pollen]

Don’t e2 Kafka lol.

Kafka gets + 2 dp on e1/2 (I forgot) and her skill levels don’t matter for sleep.

Actually downgrade for fun.

That said who uses sleep anw.

[loud remnant]

wait what

so who do i e2

[loud remnant]

wdym

[loud remnant]

@visual gull please help

[rigid plume]

Combat-wise

[loud remnant]

oh so who best for combat

[rigid plume]

Bibeak is most suitable for combat. Although she's very very old and cannot perform much.

Which is on the main list, as you can see.

Paprika is whatever, Diamante is a pure shit in combat.

[loud remnant]

how do I get bibeak and tequilla

and CE

[loud remnant]

can you answer this for me too

[rigid plume]

Tequila is free from Dossoles Holiday.
Bibeak is CC/Gold Cert store (wouldn't recommend).
CE is free from Ep14.

[loud remnant]

oh shit so if no bibeak can i just e2 kafka

[rigid plume]

Can you elaborate about stagger plz?

[loud remnant]

but like when do i get ce if i do chapter 14

[loud remnant]

like 12 hours swap one operator

i don't need 6 operators for the first factory righht

[rigid plume]

I mean... she doesn't get used mostly anyway, so...

[rigid plume]

Mmm, I don't practice that, sorry. Cannot help in that matter. Always switching every 24h.

🥹

[loud remnant]

okay thanks

[frank cipher]

[orchid bane]

how to get 67 LMD

[open roost]

does this team in the middle require jaye at which promotion level?

[jaunty notch]

e1: you can click on gnosis and it'll jump to the entire team

though at this point if you haven't e1 jaye you probably shouldn't anyway

[open roost]

oh rip, guess I will stick to proviso + 2 30

[arctic prism]

[round lichen]

I guess the Osmanthus and Golden Waves boxes are identical

But I don’t have any duplicates

[arctic prism]

oh what the they're named differently?

[valid storm]

so, there was 2 sets with the same name on CN but on global they even share the id

[hexed crystal]

ok maybe a bit of a stupid question but can i somehow get infos on how much orinium i get with a certain a mount of rocks/how long it roughly takes to turn it into orignium?

[valid storm]

4 = 20
And I turned about 1k rocks into orundum in 1 week? or was it more?

[desert notch]

i remember going onto salt mines and seeing someone have 400m lmd... what should be the lowest amount of lmd you should have at a time? i usually sit at 3m most of the time

[wind orbit]

me constantly under 100k lmd, because keep upgrading some operator

[normal dagger]

Is my base alright if xp is around 13.8k to 17k the past three days
And 25k ish LMD of gold from 50ish gold blocks

I might've kept one trading post and factory idle to make red pulls

(thought it says claimed 20 usually and I don't see it in control centre sheet)

[summer kernel]

That's pretty low. You can be getting almost double those numbers even if running orundum

[normal dagger]

I log in once a day, could it be that

[summer kernel]

What's the minimum viable exodia setup that's worth it? I'm missing CY and Dusk but I have most pieces but idk if I should plan to run exodia in the future

[summer kernel]

Yeah that would contribute. You probably cap out so maybe run some capacity operators like Bubble team?

How do you make orundum shards if you log in once a day? My shard factory caps out pretty quick

[normal dagger]

I guess it's once a day or smth

(I thought it was made the same way gold is)

[queen flicker]

for 252 is an automation team possible and worth if i only have eunectes and greyy alter, no weedy?

[stoic spoke]

just grey alter in pp without lancet
eunectes, purestream in lv2 fac

= 20% PP and 70% FAC

eunectes will be just 30%, basically like normal metalworkers

if your average gold slaves are <30% then it can be used.

[queen flicker]

thanks. this is my base

[stoic spoke]

nice, the level 2 fac is 25% workers so, its better to use eunectes with purestream there

[queen flicker]

who should I fia? still purestream?

[stoic spoke]

yes

she's your highest worker at 40%

[torn meteor]

finally got my whisperain to e2 so i now have whisperain rosmontis saileach for more competent workers

now i just need to e2 greyyalt and ill have gotten all the improvements greater than 5% productivity somewhere that i can get until new stuff becomes available to me(via pulling or record restoration)

not worth reaching for e2 pinus yet because that shits expensive and i dont want to stall building qiubai much longer i wanna use her in normal gameplay and IS lmao

[frank cipher]

valid reason, e2 order should be quibai>base >gameplay
ps: hope her next skin with new s3 animation like entes3/hoshialt/gracebearer s1

[fluid pollen]

Rip red.

[orchid bane]

Reroll is de wea

[wind otter]

reroll like furnitures would rerun

man, I was on a two day streak of perfect Tequila orders and the streak just died on me smh

[valid storm]

They should add them to the event/CC/cert shops

[wind otter]

can't be against that

[orchid bane]

How does it feel when ppl have a 'Fragrant Osmanthus' Gift box , but you don't

[valid storm]

I'll pay HG to give them to me

[fluid pollen]

But some people even have both designs.

[wind otter]

this is why no PC client yet

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/chinas-bytedance-reportedly-building-a-steam-competitor-gametop-for-overseas-markets-will-distribute-and-publish-games-like-any-other-store-while-harboring-a-social-space-with-ai-assisted-creator-tools

[orchid bane]

I wonder why the game make it this way

Kinda bad

[frank cipher]

-# smol indie company

[arctic prism]

feel like steam is way too big and well known/liked (despite whatever controversies) in pc gaming spheres for smth like this to compete but

[torn meteor]

yeah they mightve stood a chance if they tried like 10 years back

steam is just known as THE game library on pc

[torn meteor]

im still gonna level greyyalt before qiubai cuz i like him, i need more good sniper pickups, and 1 more powerplant is a noticeable improvement to my weedy productivity but after that its qiubai time

[arctic prism]

doesnt greyy alt get his base stuff at e0 or am i misremembering

nvm misremembering

[orchid bane]

Rare OP that good at both gameplay and base

I mean
name an OP, I will tell you where that OP is worse than Greyy2

[arctic prism]

rosmontis

[fluid pollen]

checkmate.

[torn meteor]

he has drones e0 but only gets pp count e2

[arctic prism]

ye lol checked after saying that

[torn meteor]

ah lmao

[feral summit]

is 252 is the best optimal base for LMD and EXP?

[jaunty notch]

it's the most flexible for sure

lmd you can argue the more tp the better

but balance wise 252 is best

[torn meteor]

i know some people do 252, stockpile gold, then switch to 342, then once most of the gold is gone they switch back to 252

[stoic spoke]

Why not just shift to 3exp 2gold

[gleaming fossil]

That doesn't actually increase your LMD production, it just decreases your gold bar production. 3/4/2 increases LMD production by adding the 3rd trading post.

In regards to 2/5/2, is there a good way to use Gladiia and the Abyssal Hunters with a staggered rotation? It seems like her drastically shortened duration makes her, at best, extremely fiddly to try to integrate?

[jaunty notch]

7.5h is enough to let a 24h team rest with some dorm workers helping

It’s just not 12h then

[jaunty notch]

You can look up some rotations in the info tab pin link 4, but i guess you can first try using her when you sleep

[gleaming fossil]

Thanks, I hadn't actually checked the Info tab on that sheet before

[desert notch]

Does getting the perfect base require a lot of gacha? Or is it achievable with only 5 stars and below?

[wise shale]

Well. How perfect are we talking about?

[desert notch]

Something that works better than just having random ops

I should've probably rephrased my original message lol

[wise shale]

Like perfect perfect do require a lot of gacha operators. Some of them require limited operators.

[desert notch]

I think I make like 40k a day, I just forget to login midway through and lose a lot to capacity limit

[wise shale]

40k-50k stable are pretty good.

[jaunty notch]

You can make a perfectly ok base with jus 4* and below

give or take some unpromoted welfare ops

[desert notch]

Obviously I do have some 6 star gacha but I lost a possibility of more due to potentials

[wise shale]

I think ppl with best combination of character makes around 50k - 60k ish

[desert notch]

I just want something that's a guarantee I can get

[desert notch]

Ahh okay

[jaunty notch]

if you haven't check them out, I recommend taking a look at the low rarity rotation in INFO tab, and then the NOOB tab in pin link 4 which also has a remade version of that low rarity rot

[desert notch]

I was just about to ask if there was something like that, but then realised I could check it myself instead of being lazy

[jaunty notch]

now's the perfect time to start

[wise shale]

I think the only Gacha worthy just for the base skill is Proviso

[desert notch]

I heard some operator takes like a whole year just to get a profit from the lmd you spend on them

[wise shale]

This is true, somewhat

Which is why E2ing ops purely for base skill are generally not recommended.

[desert notch]

Anyways, thank you for the information

[torn meteor]

shamare too id say

the tequila shamare tp may be more expensive to set up but its better than proviso if her partner is low quality

[wise shale]

Also the way their skills work actually "summons gold bar" from thin air as opposed to Proviso.

[loud remnant]

Hi can someone help me? I have this rotation but i have a couple of questions

[wise shale]

[torn meteor]

i dont recall what the proviso productivity is with a 30% partner tho

[torn meteor]

ye exactly, its really nice for when your gold production is on the lower side which would be the case without investing much in factory workers most likely

[loud remnant]

can someone help

[wise shale]

Well.... ask away?

I'm just okay with base tho.

[spare pivot]

[loud remnant]

oh so the person who created this base rotation for me

he put 6 operators on the first factory

which i don't know if they need to put together or something or not

or can i just use 4 operatoprs

to stagger that

?

[torn meteor]

feels good making like 66k lmd per day on average

i may be losing gold but im working on that

[orchid bane]

[torn meteor]

my base is starting to look really close to something optimal, ive mostly just got CC to work on and i need a better proviso partner i also need to invest in my pinus sylvestris since i have everyone for that except viviana no idea if pudding is actually worth running here but im doing it anyway

if i get chongyun dusk viviana my CC is looking really good

(i have ling i just dont use her yet because im stupid)

[orchid bane]

[torn meteor]

for factories im mostly waiting for aroma and bryophyta to come home

bubble vulcan while worse than dorothy silencealt is also way cheaper and i dont own dorothy soooo

and the gap isnt super significant

im way less concerned with my exp efficiency because thats like good enough for now and im not willing to wait for the return on investment for exp workers any time soon

if its not clear im sinking all my drones into lmd btw

[wind otter]

all operators listed in FAC 1 work individually and don't need to work together in a combo so they can be staggered if needed

[valid storm]

Chat, I present you, the most cursed TP team:

or an infographic on how they affect the orders,

it's still funny

[loud remnant]

Okay thanks

[finite hill]

Is Pudding's control center skill worth using if I only have one 20% pp worker?

[stoic spoke]

[rigid plume]

THE CAT ORDER

[valid storm]

Indeed

[jaunty notch]

yes, her skill lets you get more profit from just using robots. Though Kal or M3 is better if you have them of course

[spring plover]

is this good performance for a new player

[spring plover]

for context uh rn im on chapter 5

3 factories level 3
2 power plants level 3
2 trading posts level 3
2 factories level 2

[frank cipher]

good good
30 exp is big
lmd need improve till 50k
grab proviso if available

[wind otter]

[jaunty notch]

No.1 base coper

[wind otter]

wtf, where did that come from

[jaunty notch]

that's what you should change into i mean

or BaseUpdateSoon

or PaseDubate

[wind otter]

lace dubstep

[jaunty notch]

yeah that sounds even cooler

i have no idea where the L came from though, you can take it

[valid storm]

btw, how did you like my last TP team?

[jaunty notch]

I did it ages ago, when pepe first came out in cn so it’s cool ig

[valid storm]

Did a team with all 3 cool TP workers being there the same time?

[jaunty notch]

Yeah

[valid storm]

I'm still waiting for Pepe partners

[wind otter]

don't worry, next CN limited event along with true base update

[valid storm]

[wind otter]

[covert glacier]

hi, what should I do if I have run out of furniture parts, skill books and grey/green tier materials to feed my 9 colour deer?

what stage could I farm to help me get more fodder for her skill 🤔

[pallid isle]

your generally going to never have enough food to feed NC9

your doing the right thing though you used furniture parts then skill books then tier 1 materials

back to the 1-7 mines for NC9 pretty much

[pale yoke]

By just believing in rng

[wind otter]

man just doesn't want the deer to go hungry

[torn meteor]

i wish i had a deer so i could let her go hungry/hj

oh yeah i need to ask, how does coldshot interact with fia? does she treat her like she doesnt exist and not try to give morale recovery to her or does she try and fail to give morale recovery to fia

[fleet sinew]

Is shamare-bibeak-tequila combo overrated? After a short hiatus I used lemu-exu-40% while my shamare-tequila rests and ended up getting more gold thanks to more orders.

I use 252 with proviso lvl2tp as 2nd tp

[torn meteor]

something is definitely wrong there because bibeak shamare tequila is just a more efficient TP than that

as to it being overrated imo its not overrated in the slightest because even if something beats it on raw order quantity the fact that it uses less gold to create more lmd makes it incredibly valuable and makes it more feasible to sustain droning lmd on proviso daily

[orchid bane]

Sham Bibeak teq is still RNG combo, it is as good as 138% team but when bad RNG come it is just as good as 90%, so with enough bad RNG order, exu lemu 40% can perform better, BUT Sham team is definitely cost less gold

[torn meteor]

rightttt rng

yeah if you hit the 15% too many times it will just underperform

[fleet sinew]

I see, cause I’ve been using Sham team for years and never got anything above 70k in a single day. Then I was shocked that a simple 120% team can make a lot more

[torn meteor]

that 100k isnt something you would realistically make in a day

to my knowledge not even the most optimized setups can average 80k

er maybe using cursed proviso/tequila

[fleet sinew]

Now that you mention it, I did drone all at once that day which might inflate the numbers. I was absent for a few days before playing again

[torn meteor]

yeah the numbers were definitely inflated there

out of curiosity what do your tps look like?

[orchid bane]

Your 3 day result could only tell exact if you claim all the order at the same time everyday for 4 days

[torn meteor]

ye i usually use a rough average of my last 3 days doing the exact same thing cuz my ass is too depressed and on an irregular sleep schedule to get something exact like that

[orchid bane]

(The time you claim all the order till the end of the reset stay the same)

[fleet sinew]

This is with the dead lancet combo

I rotate between this and the WP team

[torn meteor]

do you use fia?

[fleet sinew]

Fia to keep proviso shamare-teq permanently on

[torn meteor]

ok theres an rng problem there

when you use fia on your shamare, bibeak will change slots

meaning her built up rng will reset

to counteract that put bibeak in slot 1

[fleet sinew]

I usually manually reset shamare to make sure Bibeak doesn’t change slots

[torn meteor]

more effort than you need to put in but fair enough

[fleet sinew]

Well, you play long enough, you find new ways to keep yourself entertained

[torn meteor]

i dont see how putting a filler op in to prevent bibeak from moving would be entertaining but you do you

[paper radish]

i think 70k average is usually the upper limit, with 80k on some days w good rng

[wise shale]

You can output 80k++ every other day by not claiming previous days' trade order

[torn meteor]

yeah but that doesnt average 80k per day smh

[wise shale]

It does make good screenshot at best

[torn meteor]

yeah its for screenshot farming

[wise shale]

Drones on Proviso > Drones in ShamTeq right?

[torn meteor]

ye thats correct

[keen gale]

Does robin need E1 or e2 to help speed up the specialist training process?

[jaunty notch]

e2

but her e0 is 30%

[keen gale]

What % is her e2?

[jaunty notch]

75

for m1

[torn meteor]

ok im finally getting to my last significant base upgrade until i expand my roster, just need to e2 greyyalt

[regal fog]

whats yall base cycle without the mlynar-like skill on CC

every 24 hour ?

[torn meteor]

just need aroma and bryophyta then every individual non cc worker wont net me more than like a 5% increase which is about where i draw the line

[torn meteor]

i still cycle roughly every 12 hours

[regal fog]

[torn meteor]

i just sometimes swap early

[regal fog]

is there any incentives doing that early

[torn meteor]

not really, just making sure i dont forget lmao

[regal fog]

[torn meteor]

the only really noticeable thing is that without a mlynar style cc skill you cant rotate fia to maintain uptime on 3 operators

[regal fog]

how long do they usually last anyway

[torn meteor]

i dont actually remember numbers lmao, but operators can last 24 hours easily

[torn meteor]

ok actually no thats wrong my ass forgor just cuz the timing is tight

in level 3 trading posts/factories you can cycle fia for 3 operators without a mlynar, but its not possible if you are trying to do a level 2 trading post for proviso

[regal fog]

im only abusing fia for proviso cause my ass is lazy

[torn meteor]

the timing gets way less tight if you have a mlynar style effect

but i just use fia to maintain my proviso and her partner rn, thatll change once i get morale drain reduction

[fresh thunder]

does highest authority works together with overclock?

[valid storm]

No

only the one with the highest % factory boost will take effect

[torn meteor]

send help im considering making the printer room in my base where im just going to cover the entire floor with printers then im going to make one of my vanguards live there

[valid storm]

Printers only when you could create something like this?

[torn meteor]

ok thatd be peak but also itd be so funny shoving myrtle in a room with nothing but printers inside

[valid storm]

I just had a room idea, lemme see if I have enough stuff for it

the answer is no, we have a serious lack of infinite fans

[stoic spoke]

[wise shale]

10.000 comfort

[wind otter]

yeah, 9CD being a collab op doesn't do any favors for new players. A third rerun is kind of hard to imagine, maybe another op with the same skill could show up in the future, but considering HG's base generosity I wouldn't hold my breath

[orchid bane]

You think what happened in HG headquarter that day ?

They were planning to do something like purestream case , or they didn't think her baseskill that good?

[wind otter]

they were all drunk

[loud remnant]

Hi is there any ways to know the true length of the morale duration of operators

or do you just math

[blazing lava]

if you're talking about the time it takes for morale to drop to 0 (the amount of time they can work)

the. there should be a timer for each operators in the overview button whenever you click on a facility

[orchid bane]

Good thing about recent update, they added timer to CC and RR

Still, only the CC one is working well, the RR and HR one succc