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[rain pollen]

So how do people have 252's?

[clear steppe]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14WzOA_cNpvG_PCHrtpxBgBpQWh4I1_TRgFPqk12W_lo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

something like this

[wise shale]

In the Arknights Base Combo Guide — under EXP Workers. Do I just choose any of the 2, together?

[clear steppe]

if the factory only have 2 workers yeah

[elder cedar]

Is my base good? Looking only at Lmd production

[jaunty notch]

https://youtu.be/sBw1UW03crs?si=lfmW2q75HK8EHem6

pinned

[rain pollen]

Wait it cannot be lv 3's?

Is that efficient?

[short umbra]

new fia haver here is using her to keep proviso/shamare/tequila working optimal? or is there a better use

[jaunty notch]

it's optimal

[jaunty notch]

lv3s don't have much of a difference because it's only +1% per level. It's the slots that counts. So unless you have a combo that absolutely needs a lv3 to be good (vermeil), you can get better prod at lv2 in a 252

also 252 max right has 1 lv3 fac

2 if you use proviso

[winged hollow]

it is the best optimal

[rain pollen]

Ok great

So i put all of these on lmd right?

And the 2 trading posts should do it?

Right?

[jaunty notch]

since you're new, just check all the pinned stuff

[rain pollen]

Ok will do

Thanks!

[elder cedar]

Is my base good? Looking only at Lmd production

[torn meteor]

pure gold production seems a bit low but this is decent for no fiametta

heres what mine produces, keep in mind that i use fiametta so proviso is working around the clock

[elder cedar]

i do have fiametaa i think

yea i do

[torn meteor]

have you been using her base skill?

oh yeah i should also ask is your base 252?

[elder cedar]

is she only for dormitory?

yes it is

[torn meteor]

ok so how fia works is you put a worker at low morale in the dorm right before her when shes at full morale and she trades morale with them

so fia can be used to make some of your highest quality workers work around the clock

[elder cedar]

so as long as fiametta is full morale i just put those two in the dormitory and the other operator will regain morale?

[torn meteor]

yep

[elder cedar]

interesting......

so who would i usually do this to? someone that give a lot of productivity?

[torn meteor]

if you log in every 12 hours roughly fia can make 3 workers never rest

usually its proviso shamare tequila but tequila isnt worth without shamare

[elder cedar]

i have all

i mostly just put ppl in there lol

[torn meteor]

proviso just wants a high productivity partner to be the best trading post, then the tequila shamare trading post is the 2nd best

slot 1 will be one of bibeak/kafka/diamante/paprika, slot 2 and 3 are shamare tequila

only the slot 1 has to specifically be slot 1

because theres multiple workers with the same base skill for the tequila trading post in the bibeak slot you can maintain full uptime on that trading post by using fia on shamare tequila

[elder cedar]

whats slot 1 like the first operator in there? theres a requirement like that for them to work better?

[torn meteor]

these 4 have the same base skill, they will be the slot 1

e2 any 2 of them along with shamare tequila and thats the 2nd best TP in the game

[elder cedar]

shamare and tequilla has to be e2 as well?

[torn meteor]

tequila doesnt need to be e2 but the TP isnt worth using if shamare isnt

heres some of the numbers for you

https://youtu.be/Mq3y3y3XU90?si=c-GkRpTiCzaoroqF heres a video explaining it

[elder cedar]

i see

thanks

[torn meteor]

yep

oh also e2 your proviso if she isnt already, shes the singular best trading post worker and you will get the lmd you spent on her back from her working in a couple months

[elder cedar]

nice i just want to make more money despite the amount of lmd i have hehe

[runic plover]

Printing time

[torn meteor]

generally i dont recommend to people doing e2s just for base, i make an exception for the tequila TP and proviso

the return on investment with them is so fucking fast

[elder cedar]

i have money no worries 🫡

i just dont know whos good and what not for base lol

im trying to farm orundum with base

[torn meteor]

RIGHT THAT WAS YOU

[elder cedar]

LOL

just goig to use her for the side hustle i guess

[uncut relic]

Is there a proper 252 base guide linked somewhere thats lazy. So I can just press rotate and drone

[spare pivot]

[civic creek]

Here's one
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ohry3zj-9clEBE_qiD-IJzKcs8bSZBIkD858ehn3-90/edit?gid=1195647200#gid=1195647200

[pallid stump]

guys does this look good or I need to switch things up?

[oak wedge]

Am I doing something wrong? The lmd income isn't as good as I expected

[jaunty notch]

with your rots 60k is good enough

[torn meteor]

whats your control center?

also is jaye e1?

[oak wedge]

Yea he's e1

[torn meteor]

if hes e1 hes not a good worker in that trading post swap him for a 30%

jaye becomes a 24 if theres 60 productivity from other bodies which is the scenario there

[torn meteor]

wait no i misremembered the skill, he would be a 16

e1 jaye simply requires capacity boosts to be a good worker

[stoic thistle]

Who do you guys partner with Proviso in lvl3 trading post?

If this question is frequently ask here, i'm sorry. I'm new to base combo stuff. I just started optimizing it yesterday

[jaunty notch]

pin link 4 for sheets

if you're new you prob want to go to it and check the full combo reqs

[stoic thistle]

Ohh thanks. Btw I could do the Jaye, SA + Gnosis combo. Does Jaye needs to be E1 here?

[jaunty notch]

yes, but if he's e0 you can do some better shennanigans

[stoic thistle]

So that's what I'm doing wrong. I was wondering why i'm getting low productivity when the spreadsheet say I should be getting 192%

Was hesistant to E1 jaye at first cuz I heard E1ing him will brick his base skill or something

[rotund cargo]

Good?

[craggy prawn]

Yo, right now I just got Shamare, Tequila, Bibeak team. and Exu, Texas, Lappland team. I was planning to get Pozy team to replace PL but it sounds complicated to me. I need 5 gold facs but also durins on BASE?

[jaunty notch]

yeah if you're at this point of the game don't e1 jaye

[frank cipher]

pretty sure pozy team more complicated, 4gold fac is good

[stoic thistle]

So I should not do it? Here's my tp formations. Maybe I should use Glasgow combo + Delphine in CC for Proviso instead. Then make the E0 Jaye combo with Texas plus Lappland?

That would destroy my Penguin Logistic team but maybe I could substitute with Lemuen + double exu combo? Does that sound good? If y'all have suggestions I would really appreciate it

[jaunty notch]

so fast explanation is jaye e1 drives every %-based team down and gnosis team is more of a band-aid to that.

if you can clear the stages while having jaye at e0, let him stay there

if he's e0 then he's a 40% something and more with CAP bonuses

you can look at the number in the blue box to see the numbers

also lemu + double exu doesn't do anything good. Just do proviso lemu og exu

[stoic thistle]

I see. Well I don't really use Jaye so i'll let him stay st E0. The E0 Jaye plus Lapp and Tex combo has high numbers compared to Penguin Logistic team so I guess i'll be doing that instead then use lemu + og exu on Proviso

Thanks a lot

[crude badge]

Exu alt's trading post skill doesn't count herself.
So she gains only 30% eff instead of 45% eff 🥀

Also, exu alt also doesn't count normal exu

Btw, does hoederer tp base skill counts Wisadel as one of his conditionals?

[jaunty notch]

no

[crude badge]

Sad

It should've

Wisadel wants hoederer working (to give buffs), but hoederer doesn't count Wisadel as W.

🥀

[torn meteor]

thats specifically without e2 gnosis in cc

its cuz it hurts his synergy with the texas lappland duo mainly since he loses capacity from other workers' productivity meaning he loses productivity himself

e2 gnosis gets most productivity from karlan ops below the threshold where jaye starts losing productivity then boosts capacity by another 6 per karlan trade op

meaning 9% more raw productivity over his reduction while removing the drawback of jaye e1

at e0 jaye wants unused capacity for productivity where at e1 he just wants capacity so even if peak production is a bit lower, e1 in KT post with gnosis will outperform e0 with other workers

because you most likely arent claiming orders as they come in its likely after a few pile up

tldr with gnosis in CC, e1 jaye is an upgrade

[torn meteor]

you only would need 4 gold factories, but yes you would need durins in base. durin and myrtle both have dorm skills so they are easy, then you can have one in workshop and one in training room if you dont want to eat more dorm slots or hurt productivity anywhere

[orchid bane]

-# ||Or chestnut in 5th fac doing shards||

[torn meteor]

yeah chestnut is also a good option if you want to bother with orundum but not everyone does

[stoic thistle]

After doing some research about Jaye, I agree. I decided to keep the Jaye, SA, and Gnosis combo for Proviso. Also one factor is basing on my irl routine, I might not be able to fully utilize E0 Jaye where you need to often collect orders in order to not drop the efficiency to an unacceptable level. E1 fixes that for me since i'm only able to login to ak once or twice a day

[torn meteor]

yep that makes sense

also by the time you are deep enough into optimizing that gnosis isnt worth using anymore you also are deep enough into optimizing that jaye isnt worth using anymore(at least in 252)

like at that point you are using proviso and tequila shamare around the clock

and when doing cursed proviso/tequila you dont use karlan you use goldlines or mrnothing ebenholz

[stoic thistle]

I see, my base setup is 243. I know 252 is better but the reason I went to 243 is because ocd kek. I want everything maxed. Also I thought Proviso doesn't work with Tequila?

[eternal gyro]

Guys, who will be the best combo for Exu + Lemuen + XXX?

[torn meteor]

you use them in different trading posts
tp1 is bibeak/kafka/diamante/paprika, shamare, tequila
tp2 is proviso and your highest productivity partner(s)

[torn meteor]

if you use exu(og) any 40, if you use exualter iirc its your highest production laterano worker

er actually technically its proviso but i was assuming you already are using proviso elsewhere

[eternal gyro]

Ah, no i dont have Proviso. Now my set up is Sham+Teq+Paprika, and ExuAlter+Lemuen+Ambriel

[torn meteor]

yeah thats pretty good for no proviso, what about your off rotation?

[eternal gyro]

Off rotation is just whoever with 30% Trade, dont remember their names.. 🙂.

Thx Otoko

[torn meteor]

yep ofc

[pale yoke]

i think that might be the 3rd person coming in here without og exu, can't emphasize enough how brutal kernel banner is for new player
great for vets tho as it filters out ops you already have from the pool

[spare pivot]

[pale yoke]

[spare pivot]

When arknight first released for global was there a kernal banner? If there was, what OPs were in it do you rmbr?

[fluid pollen]

There was no kernel.

[pale yoke]

no

[fluid pollen]

When kernel first released it was mostly release ops right?

[pale yoke]

that was my point

[spare pivot]

waw

[fluid pollen]

Okay but

Kernel is good for new players

Filters out the shit ops.

[spare pivot]

idk much bout it so ysaht

[pale yoke]

in terms of base they kinda oof

[fluid pollen]

Well base is filled with random limited ops anw.

[pale yoke]

filter out y1y2

[fluid pollen]

Can’t have everything in life

[pale yoke]

does it mean we getting new kernel banner soon?

[spare pivot]

New kernal?

Out of all the beginners banner OPs which one is the best y'all would say?

[fluid pollen]

They add ops to kernel after a certain event each time.

[pale yoke]

Kernel v2 adds another gacha option of y3y4 ops only

[fluid pollen]

So shouldn’t have new kernel.

It’s just like recruit ig

[pale yoke]

wait do they?

[spare pivot]

I mean nobody pulls for kernal anyway unless they're 🐋🐳

[fluid pollen]

Yea pretty sure

[pale yoke]

im checking

i know recruit for sure

but kernel

[fluid pollen]

Unless I’m just super wrong and gaslighting.

[pale yoke]

nope

kernel was always the same since chap 12 released

⛽ 💡

[fluid pollen]

Eh…

[pale yoke]

we should point and laugh at new player to create a friendly and welcoming environment

[fluid pollen]

Oh wait I’m right!

[pale yoke]

oh im wrong lol

got gaslighed by wiki page

[fluid pollen]

Almost did too. Was wondering where it was documented

Decided to just search up a vid of someone talking about kernal instead

[fluid pollen]

Spam yellow cert for 1 copy it is.

[spare pivot]

[pale yoke]

yea fr

that's their best option but gona wait monthly

i still buy ops pots for kernel ops with gold cert

[fluid pollen]

Rich

am waiting for waai fu.

[pale yoke]

wat you didnt have her max pot yet?

for someone with all ops im surprised

[fluid pollen]

A lot of my ops are just 1 copy.

Am just a poor man

[fair beacon]

Do I upgrade my activity rooms? I'm new and the base command doesn't tell me about the activity rooms

[fluid pollen]

They’re just trust farming rooms like base assistants, so if you find them expensive to upgrade, you can skip them!

[fair beacon]

Thank you

[jaunty notch]

just clear them for drone capacity then you can either leave them unbuilt or clear lv1

[lofty sapphire]

yo how can I stop OPS from changing when I press the rotate button?. for example if shamare is 0 sanity and the other ops still has 12 sanity. If I press the rotate button they both go in the dormitory. how to fix?

[somber flume]

manual selection

[valid storm]

then you have nothing left?

[fluid pollen]

[simple violet]

What's the purpose of the Recall button in the Activity Room?

[jaunty notch]

recalls the op assigned to the room back there in case they wandered off somewhere else, to move them around again

useless

[winged hollow]

so if you assign an op to that room, is that count them as in the room and you can move them everywhere or not assign specific to that room to gain trust?

[valid storm]

Trust room assignments are the same as base assistant assignments

[winged hollow]

oh so they don't need to be there to gain trust?

nice

[valid storm]

They have to be assigned there, but can be assigned to a production facility the same time

[winged hollow]

what if they are not in the fac and assign there and also not in that room?

[valid storm]

if they have been assigned there, they can wander off and still get the trust

[torn meteor]

the literal only purpose of recalling them is to force them to sit in a chair

[valid storm]

which is pointless\

[torn meteor]

take that back i want to force logos to sit in an office chair for photography reasons in the chair room

[valid storm]

Does your dorm look like a corridor?

[torn meteor]

lemme see if i have a pic available

[valid storm]

otherwise you aren't allowed to put Logos on a chair

[torn meteor]

its a WIP

rn im just flooding the floor with chairs i'll think about further decoration later

[valid storm]

[torn meteor]

in my defense i havent been playing long enough to have all the furniture i want

[valid storm]

how long have you been playing?

[torn meteor]

i started right before laptop

[valid storm]

ah

that was only 6 months ago

[torn meteor]

on the tail end of jessicalter rerun

[valid storm]

there are many sets you cannot get once again

[torn meteor]

im doing the best i can but my disadvantage is in time and the size of my roster

[finite hill]

Is Pudding's control center skill worth the lower power plant +%?

[torn meteor]

iirc the answer is yes if you dont have 20% workers no if you do

[round lichen]

When using drones on a level 3 TP, it’s actually better to have Proviso and Tequila together in the same TP. If you get a 2- or 3-gold order, Proviso skill will activate; if you get a 4-gold order, Tequila will activate. When you’re done droning, go back to the setup Otoko described

Also if it soothes you, it’s possible to have a symmetrical layout of 252 facilities. You really should consider switching

[torn meteor]

personally ocd was stopping me from doing 252 for a long while but i found a layout that doesnt bother me too much so i use that

like this is good enough for me

all my stuff is clustered in a way that looks good

[pseudo jetty]

Which better 15 slot 252 or 14 slot 252?

[torn meteor]

only a few days left til i spark rosmontis, when that happens i need to e2 her and whisperain

[stoic thistle]

That's actually a big brain strat when using drones. I'll try it. Thanks for all the tips guys, i'm starting to get enlightened by all these base stuff. My only regret is that I'm only doing this now and not much earlier. I never bother about optimizing base stuff before and now I realized the amount of time and resources wasted.

As for switching to 252...I'll think about it. I like my current setup as it is. I'm not looking for a super-optimized setup, I just want a decently optimized one that can give me a good resources income everyday. If I get deep into base stuff, I'll consider it.

[sacred egret]

Hello me wanna ask whats the best rotation for control room?
If i wanna go factory speed?

[valid storm]

depends on who you have, the 4th link has a few good options

[sacred egret]

Ty!

[novel pier]

How cope is exodia without dusk? I have every component but can’t get her until they rerun her

[round lichen]

The worldly plight team can work for 16 hours

If you’re very persistent about logging in at extremely specific times, you can make Perception info work after that, but if you want to stick to 12 hour rotations, you might have to forgo Rosmontis/Eben

[novel pier]

How important is the PI and WP she provides tho? Can I cope and use a +2 factory and +7 Tp to take her place?

[round lichen]

I mean Dusk is obviously superior, but if you don’t have her then you don’t have her. The problem is that when you look outside the CC, the other sources of WP and PI become difficult to slot into standard 12h rotations. When you have 100% uptime on Shamare/Tequila/Tailoring and Proviso/Mr. Norhing, the only real way to get Eben’s WP is sacrificing Tailoring or with cursed Proviso. Whisperain and Mulberry force you to pick one or the other, which most would prefer maxing Mr. Nothing since Proviso combos so well with him

[novel pier]

hm guess I will just have to make do until I get her then since I already have everyone else lvled up

[round lichen]

I would recommend doing a 12 hour WP-focused rotation and just ignoring PI, since you can get to 80 without needing to micromanage Ling’s morale

[little ledge]

How much ambience does it need to recover and op from 0 to full in 24 hours?

[torn meteor]

isnt mrnothing still a 45 at worst without dusk present and rosmontis a 40

[stoic thistle]

If an op is on 0 morale, at lvl 5 dorm with 5k ambiance it's about 6 hours for them to fully recover, no dorm skills from other ops. If u have less than that then expect more time for them to fully recover

[fluid pollen]

At lvl 1 dorm it’s 12 hrs from 0, so perfect for 12hr rotations.

[pale yoke]

stares at fiametta

[fluid pollen]

Ros and Mr Nothing are both just 20% base, Dusk and Ling just provide 15 WP and 10 PI each with effect swapping depending on current morale, so usually if you don’t have Dusk, you don’t run PI.

Reason being morale sucks to deal with.

[torn meteor]

sorry i should clarify i meant with chongyue for mrnothing and whisperain for rosmontis

im pretty sure you just accept that you wont have full uptime on the PI and WP and run them anyway because a 40% is still above average

(if you have sail that is)

mrnothing you run regardless if you have chongyue 5 sui

[fluid pollen]

Ah I get what you mean.

[little ledge]

Ahh now i get why 252 makes sense

[pale yoke]

don't worry next sui will remove morale reduction for sui combo and combine both PI and WP value and share across both

we just know it

[fluid pollen]

Can totally just split WI and PI tho.

I shld just reco dark tech more.

[torn meteor]

ling is more important than dusk for chongyue anyway right?

like

[winged hollow]

Why don't you use both

[torn meteor]

the person specified they dont have dusk and was asking about exodia without her

[fluid pollen]

They’re like the same but Ling is just easier bc she starts out at 24 instead of if you’d use Dusk that starts WP at 11.

The morale thing is mostly irrelevant bc if you only had 1 it’s not lasting more than 1 shift anw

Also starting Dusk at 11 means she just dies halfway

[torn meteor]

this part of dusk makes her not even last a full shift no?

and chong has basically the same self morale drain boost

[fluid pollen]

Chong’s doesn’t matter.

It’s just Dusk

[torn meteor]

i thought the reason it doesnt matter is that ling cancels it

[fluid pollen]

Chong’s doesn’t matter if you only run him for 1 shift.

Basically 11-13 hrs.

[torn meteor]

ohhh i see

[winged hollow]

What if i run him 24h

[fluid pollen]

Then you’re running him with Ling + Dusk no?

[torn meteor]

dusk is literally just a smiley worker if you ignore her PI and WP stuff

ling is more important in making him last the 24 hours is what i was trying to say

[fluid pollen]

Makes sense if you run all 3.

[winged hollow]

Is sai matter if i don't care about recruitment

[fluid pollen]

Sail doesn’t matter if you hate recruitment.

[torn meteor]

sai only matters if you care about recruitment

[fluid pollen]

🥹

[winged hollow]

So i can put kal for her in right

[fluid pollen]

Yep

[winged hollow]

Whis or mul for exodia

[fluid pollen]

Like running all 3 + Ros and Mr Nothing?

It’s Whis

[winged hollow]

I run both wp/pi

[torn meteor]

gold consumption is too fast with mulberry right?

[fluid pollen]

Together?

Whis

[fluid pollen]

Not just that, but also has less value for Ros.

[winged hollow]

I mean you don't want more lmd?

[fluid pollen]

Your gold will bleed

[torn meteor]

true ig ros is basically just a 34? without whisperain

[winged hollow]

I run ros wf aroma

[fluid pollen]

Are you 252 or 243?

[winged hollow]

243

[fluid pollen]

So you run Eben and Mr Nothing tgt right

[winged hollow]

Yes and iris czerny virt

[fluid pollen]

If you drop Mul for Whis it’s only -10% TP.

[torn meteor]

if you are using both eben and mrnothing with rosmontis its 100% whisperain

[fluid pollen]

Assuming Iris Czerny in lvl 2 dorm yep.

[winged hollow]

Shu jie yumn for one fac nian in ws

[fluid pollen]

Shu?

[winged hollow]

Shu fac skill

I run shu because i need rl buff in tr

[fluid pollen]

Let’s say your prev WP was 80?

Isn’t Shu only 26%

[winged hollow]

Jie yun

And one 40%

[fluid pollen]

Idt 243 should be running Jie Yun/Shu?

There’s prolly better workers than those?

[winged hollow]

Scene combo yes but i want to buff ros

[fluid pollen]

Shu Jieyun doesn’t buff Ros tho

[winged hollow]

[fluid pollen]

They work based on WP, not increase PI.

[winged hollow]

Wait do they work with mr nothing

[fluid pollen]

Their prod is based on WP count.

But they have no inherent buffs to that.

Remove em add em doesn’t matter your Mr Nothing is still 60/80.

[winged hollow]

Fuck...

So i did all that for nothing

[fluid pollen]

Cooks

[winged hollow]

No problem i will fix that n ext rotation

[fluid pollen]

Yep and swap to Whis

[winged hollow]

Is 35+35+Minimalist better than scene combo

[fluid pollen]

Same/better for first 12.

But worse past

[torn meteor]

if your base is maxed minimalist is a 40 so yes

[torn meteor]

no its 110 which is better the whole time

[fluid pollen]

Eh my maths failed

Can’t count yea it’s just better.

[torn meteor]

ok its valid to misremember minimalist since hes ass in 252

[fluid pollen]

Nah I equated 40 + 35 + 35 =105

[torn meteor]

oop

[fluid pollen]

Brain dmg.

[winged hollow]

Yay i hate ramp up

[fluid pollen]

Valid

[winged hollow]

Is jess combo good for gold produce

[fluid pollen]

Jess is fraudulent

You’ll end up with 100% Mizuki + 36% gold to use somewhere

But your reg combos shld alr be better.

Only max left gets value for Jess I think?

[winged hollow]

I am currently use pinus for exp want to replace them for a gold combo

[torn meteor]

if you are using vivi remember she makes gravel a 42

[winged hollow]

Gravel belong to metal work with bryo

I don't have t horn alrer

[torn meteor]

thats fine

i more was trying to point out gravel counts as a knight

so she gets 7% from vivi

[winged hollow]

Is it still good if use pinus for gold but not using ft

[torn meteor]

pinus should never be used for gold always exp, they are the best exp workers in the game

[fluid pollen]

Pinus for gold doesn’t work

[winged hollow]

90% so that's why i asked jess combo

[fluid pollen]

Maxes out at 96, 97 if you use Mizuki Highmore Pinus.

Jess would be better…

But you have gold issues?

[winged hollow]

243 4 fac stack with rl combo metalwork and automation

[fluid pollen]

Doesn’t make sense to convert exp fac.

[winged hollow]

But rl only work if therr is dorothy present i can do cursed rotation with mizuki highmore pinus

I have too many kexp

[fluid pollen]

Eh wait Rhine?

You have Pure Bryo Aroma no?

[winged hollow]

Pure with automation aroma does with ros

I don't do staggered

24h one goes one out

[fluid pollen]

Took a quick look at 243 a few months back, probs not optimal but you can take a look at it ig.

[round lichen]

Those are the numbers you’d see in-game, but when you factor in the Proviso multiplier, Mr.Nothing loses more than 20%

(2 + 7 + 45) -> effectively 169%
(2 + 7 + 65) -> effectively 205%
(2 + 7 + 80) -> effectively 232%

So I maintain that PI isn’t worth the opportunity cost, but if you wanted, you could run WP team for 24 hours and just accept the 27% drop for 8 hours. Even after Ling stops giving WP, you’re still at >200% productivity

[dim nexus]

hello, so i've grinded i think enough materials to actually focus on my base now (after neglecting it for so long and doing whatever).
can i get an in-depth help so i can actually produce a stable lmd and exp income

This is my cursed layout

[torn meteor]

thats not what im talking about exactly, literally 3 options are 45 or higher being mrnothing, tuye with an extensive setup, or vigil with umiri in cc. in this scenario even if mrnothing is going to be something you want to run. within the grand scheme of things yes you lose more than 20% but hes still tied for 2nd best proviso partner with just chongyue in cc and 4 sui names floating around

[dim nexus]

nvm this, i downgraded my lvl 3 factory so i can lvl 2 the rest of the factories

[pale yoke]

would recommend dropping 1tp lv and up one fac

[torn meteor]

should mention this is assuming you have proviso

[dim nexus]

does this work too?

[pale yoke]

do you curse? if you do you can have a look at mine

idk what roster you have i just going in the assumption that you have all base ops available

[dim nexus]

2 max tp
2 max pp
1 max fac and 4 lvl 2 fac

[dim nexus]

i hope so, but i will state upon your reccomendation if i dont have such operator

[pale yoke]

follow the trail

[pale yoke]

i have a high maintainance base btw if you do 12hr rotation you can't follow mine

[dim nexus]

I mean, anything is fine

[pale yoke]

yea have a look at it then

[dim nexus]

As long as i can make this higher

[pale yoke]

since you mentioned curse base

[dim nexus]

This is bankruptcy

[pale yoke]

true

from the look i doubt you have my ops now

in that case you might have to consume pin4 team combo and come up with what's best for you

[dim nexus]

can check my krooster for the ops, + i can maybe raise some to have base slaves

but ill check yours first, do you do presets or manual rotation?

[pale yoke]

manual

im oldschool like that

[dim nexus]

wait, do i need e2 on all ops in your vid or

e1

[pale yoke]

mostly E2

[dim nexus]

dangg

[fluid pollen]

If only you knew why this guy has to manual.

[pale yoke]

too dank for the system

[valid storm]

manual is always better

[fluid pollen]

Preset saves time!

[valid storm]

not if it always wants to put in the wrong operator

[fluid pollen]

If it’s a wrong swap you can always just click twice!

[uncut dome]

It's almost time

[fluid pollen]

for what?

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

For you to update your base sheet?

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

I was gonna ask you why your profile card looked different

Thought this whole time it was only 1 op.

[dim nexus]

yooo if i have 3k gold, should i still have gold fac or all in on exp

[spare pivot]

is waai fu good for base?

[valid storm]

yes

[spare pivot]

can I post what OP i got from recruitment here?

[fluid pollen]

Well I have Waai Fu.

Just looking for pots.

[orchid bane]

Trust me guys, your day can't be worse than mine

[fluid pollen]

[spare pivot]

[fluid pollen]

Wow

I also got 200

Didn’t get yellow certs tho

Shame

Ig my day is worse

[spare pivot]

red be getting roach without even wanting her

[orchid bane]

This is my 1st time getting 200

[fluid pollen]

Same!

[orchid bane]

Worst daily ever

[spare pivot]

yall don't get 200 on a daily basis?

[fluid pollen]

Red not happy with + 10 certs

Smh

[orchid bane]

Oh well I guess that is cool

[spare pivot]

Some people are drowning, while others are suffering from thirst

[orchid bane]

But the way you get it

[fluid pollen]

Had 200 + 1 cert.

The way you get it no matter.

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

🥹

[spare pivot]

Btw how good is ines on a scale from 1 to 10?

[orchid bane]

10

[fluid pollen]

9

[rigid plume]

If we're talking combat-wise.

[spare pivot]

If I can unlock all the quest and get the OPs, I can get ines

[fluid pollen]

Shld be worth

Can’t get a better deal

[spare pivot]

well time to get to work on that then

[orchid bane]

200 is hard to get

Both ticket has tobe exact 200

[frank cipher]

both 200 next day should give 5ticket extra

[spare pivot]

I got 200 twice now

today got lucky and got both 800

[dim nexus]

does ah team in fac need e2?

[fluid pollen]

Only Gladiia needs e2. But AH team has 2 issues. You must be willing to rotate them out after 7.5hrs (with no morale bonuses), bc Gladiia dies in CC, and you need all 4 other AH ops to be usable.

[dim nexus]

oh bummer, i dont have skadi

[dim nexus]

btw are you a base pro?
please help me build some teams for rotation

[fluid pollen]

Zyffy is the base pro

But general rotation building shldn’t be too hard, just go to pin 4 for sample rots, and then input what you’re thinking of with pin 5.

send here after and some ppl could help you optimise.

[dim nexus]

alright thanks, let me set up combos that are available for me

[winged hollow]

yall should pre farm t5 new mats tragodia need 8 of it

[dim nexus]

Here are some set ups available for me: cc,fac,tp
Correspondingly. As for my other 4 factories (all lvl 2, running 252) idk who to put on them

Dont mind the current assigned ops since i just threw them there randomly

[winged hollow]

where is your amiya

[dim nexus]

Where should i put her?

[winged hollow]

the cc she boost 7% for all tp

[dim nexus]

Ohh alr, so assuming im running cc using mlynar with 3 other smileys, then amiya?

[winged hollow]

kick coldshot

[dim nexus]

I see, coldshot->amiya

[winged hollow]

shamare combo is incomplete you need e2 all 3 of them

[dim nexus]

Also, the guide said when using glasgow duo with proviso, i should place delphine in cc

[winged hollow]

e2 proviso e2 bryo

[dim nexus]

Does that mean mlynar + 2 smiley, amiya and delphine?

[winged hollow]

depend what rotation are you doing

if you rotation every 24h you need only 2 smiley

[dim nexus]

Oh, got it. As for the other combos, is it good now?

I placed them there so i can know who to e2 XD

[winged hollow]

check pin link 4

[dim nexus]

E2 list:
Shamare
Tequila
Bibeak
Proviso
Bryo
Scene
Morgan
delphine

Holy shit this is a lot

[winged hollow]

how your pull in exu2 banner

[dim nexus]

Got both the rate up

[winged hollow]

then replace tp with both of them

[dim nexus]

Lemuel and lemuen, who's the other one

Exu og?

Or proviso

[winged hollow]

your tp setup is unbalance

tp1 shamare combo/lemuen combo tp2 proviso/other 30%

if you do this your lmd gain is much better

why put proviso rest when other work

if you have fia even better you can keep them work 24/7

[dim nexus]

This one sounds good

Unfortunately i have no fia

[winged hollow]

team karlan is much easier to do than siege team

check tab special

if you have SA you can do jaye e0 SA e2 Degen e2

why waste her with 30+30

121% easy

[dim nexus]

Danggg i thought this was outdated that's why am not using this

[winged hollow]

this is base meta not gameplay meta tho

[dim nexus]

But yes, i do have degen and sa on e2

[winged hollow]

perfect now softie them to see the difference

[dim nexus]

Tp1: sa, degen, jaye
Tp2: proviso, lemuen and exu

This the combo?

[winged hollow]

yes for the alternative tp1 shamare teq bibeak tp2 30+30+30

[dim nexus]

By alternative, this is who i rotate with them right

[winged hollow]

yes

[dim nexus]

Tysm, i can finally see light to my dead base

[winged hollow]

this is the most common base setup for everyone

[dim nexus]

What's the usual income for this set up?

[winged hollow]

if you have all limited then we talk something more advanced

40-50k per day

[dim nexus]

Sadly i dont

https://krooster.com/u/d-ex

[winged hollow]

for 30 you should do Gummy catapult midnight

[dim nexus]

If u can, can u check my roster and suggest some advanced combos applicable

[pale yoke]

next kernel locating

[dim nexus]

Man i want archetto on shop pls

Or bagpepe

[winged hollow]

if you clear chapter 9 you can have free Heidi for 35%

chettto IS mod is cracked tho

[dim nexus]

Real, that's why i want her

Then ros

[winged hollow]

don't use their best skill just lemuen s1 wis s1 ros s1 exu2 s1

[dim nexus]

holy spam

wait exu2?

does she get affected by cheeto?

[winged hollow]

it is offensive recovery

[dim nexus]

ohh, all offensive

im gonna use the mats i got by clearing ra to raise base slaves

[winged hollow]

e2 your proviso first

[vivid spoke]

Forgot to login and the result 🥀

[dim nexus]

How does this look

also, who do i put to the other 4 lvl 2 factories

[winged hollow]

check fac tab put them in there

since you don't have everyone use what you have

[short sail]

is it worth to e2 teq in Shamare TP team? or there's other substitute for him?

[frank cipher]

you have him? e2 him beat all of tp team except proviso

[queen flicker]

how does this look?

[short sail]

yea, but never e2'd, i have his shamare - teq - bibeak team all e2'd except for him

[dusky kindle]

So I'm trying to build my 12 hour rotation base team, mainly going to use dragon family, but I don't have flametail so who is the second best to swap in when dragons rest?

[orchid bane]

Pretty good but suppose you have more LMD now. if this goes on, that Exp can't be spent

Or this can be for p2w who go for CE-6

[queen flicker]

i'm droning lmd. should I swap one exp fac to gold?

[orchid bane]

Only If you lack of gold

You have proviso ?

[queen flicker]

no. neither shamare. hopefully i can get shamare in the upcoming kernel locating with the x10 kernel ticket i still have. and proviso i've heard theres a free 5* selector around january right?

[orchid bane]

Well I guess so

Have to use friend credits in day 1 of the week

[valid storm]

skipping ? that's why you lack

[orchid bane]

Bought em all, soon

[valid storm]

you bought free shit with money instead of the bricks

[orchid bane]

[spare pivot]

100 credit for 1800 LMD feels like such a scam

[torn meteor]

kernel locating means i get shamare soon, im really close to mostly optimal workers roster wise, i just need to pick up shamare rosmontis chongyue dusk (as far as the big improvements) then i need to pick up vivi aroma for smaller but still noticeable improvement

oh and bryophyta

[winged hollow]

aroma is not so small unless you are willing to use minimalist but I guess everyone in here go 252

[torn meteor]

aroma is def not a small improvement but shes way smaller than shamare rosmontis chongyue dusk

[winged hollow]

I use ros with aroma win win

[torn meteor]

yeah it is a just use both but the difference between a 45 and a 30 in one factory isnt nearly as big as the difference between tequila shamare and the jaye trading post

oh yeah i also need mrnothing

[winged hollow]

I don't use jaye anymore since I have fia

I force them work 24/7

[torn meteor]

i still use him but come this kernel locating i wont

[little saffron]

@valid storm Sorry I didn't come earlier, I was really upset about how I spent everything I had on Exusiai

[valid storm]

I did something like that

But Maid Kal was the first priority

[little saffron]

This is how I wanted to thank you for what you did for me, you helped me a lot to improve my base

Now this is my favourite, I guess it's the Doctor room?

At least it's in the same place as my Doctor office

I'll stop making new designs for now, I have nowhere to save them :(

[valid storm]

no, it's a cabin in the woods where you basically have a single room for work and sleep

or an elite dormitory room

[ornate saffron]

Hello, I'm a little confused with best combo for control center. Currently I have 4 r6 operators + delphine for Proviso/Morgan/Siege in TP. Are there any better combos considering I have almost all operators and don't really care about infinite stamina in control center? I've red that I also need Amiya or similar skill in CC

idk if I should be using this or this

Also idk if this can be stacked with this or no? It's not considered same, right?

[pale yoke]

Lol no skin

🫵

[arctic prism]

if you have all ops, the best control center combo consists of:
dusk ling chongyue used in conjunction with rosmontis, mr nothing, whisperain/mulberry (pick one, your choice), ebenholz (optional). you also need to keep 2 out of nian, shu, yu in workshop and training room while this team is active

next best control center op is gladiia (with 4 abyssals in factories, max 2 per factory) but she can only work for 7.5 hrs, so it's up to you whether you want to use her

next after them is flametail + viviana (pinus knights + gravel)

after this is either eunectes (dead lancet), amiya, delphine (if using glaslow), kaltsit.

this order can be different (to an extent) depending on your base setup (e.g. delphine > amiya in 153) and what you value (e.g. eunectes may be higher value if you need more gold)

r6 is garbage from a productivity standpoint. if you're fine with doing proper rotations, they shouldn't even be in your consideration as control center spots are very valuable

[spare pivot]

you bought the pack?

I did some dumb things, but having 60-70ish pulls for tragodia will be enough, no?

[round lichen]

They already put loxic and manganese in the infinite shop, you just know grindstone is next on the chopping block

There really are no good farming stages this event

[orchid bane]

Wait really ?

[round lichen]

It would be consistent with the order in depot, loxic manganese grindstone RMA

[ornate saffron]

no Saileach for the first one?

oh nvm yours a little different one

yours is a combination of first and this one but still no Saileach

[arctic prism]

you can use saileach if you need certs

most of us dropped her in favor of the other cc ops though just from valuing lmd/xp more than certs at this stage of the game

[ornate saffron]

I need to choose 2 combination from your list since they all waste their stamina and I need to rotate them, right?

[ornate saffron]

fair enough

[arctic prism]

kind of
can take a look at gato's rotations to see what he does as reference
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SixW_LMuizJ-fOlRuytX623dP0-bVWfxtaM8WwYpYRQ/edit?gid=1187734891#gid=1187734891

[ornate saffron]

also can you help with this? #r-i-i-c message

[arctic prism]

those 2 stack yes

[ornate saffron]

thx!

what an insane micro management

I thought I need only 2 formations for every facility 😭

[arctic prism]

i mean yea you could to that

it's just ideally you want to maximize the uptime of your best combos

which is why we rotate

[ornate saffron]

Can I fill 2 empty slots with Amiya/Ascalon and Delphine in the first squad? Or there are better options?

[arctic prism]

uh

who is going in your tp

actually what base layout are you using rn

[ornate saffron]

252, for 2 TP I use Lapp, Tex, Exu/Catapult, Gummy, Midnight and Proviso, Morgan, Siege/Shamare, Tequila, Kafka

[arctic prism]

you're using this when you have almost all ops...?

[ornate saffron]

I'm planning to swap Catapult, Gummy, Midnight with Pozyomka, Tuye and Kirara

[ornate saffron]

Well I don't really want to swap 5 squads

And I changed to Proviso, Morgan and Siege just today when was trying to optimize my base

Before it was Proviso, E2 Jaye and Silver without Gnosis in CC 💀

Also leveled some 5* units to optimise my factories, I can show it if you want

[arctic prism]

id recommend downgrade one tp to lv 2, can upgrade an extra factory to lv 3 with the extra power
in lv3 tp use shamare tequila kafka/bibeak
lv2 use mr nothing proviso
use fiametta on proviso shamare tequila
when mrnothing is dead, replace with a 40% worker like underflow

[ornate saffron]

I thought I should use drones on either Proviso or Shamare squads, that's why they swap one another in my current layout

[arctic prism]

if you're using fiametta, all of them are permanently up

[ornate saffron]

Also I never used Fiametta to restore stamina since in my head I should manage that nobody is going in the same dorm as her when not needed and my last dorm is mostly filled with tired units

Maybe I don't understand how she works fully

[arctic prism]

uh

you can still fill up the dorm after you use her

[ornate saffron]

I shouldn't lock her to dorm?

[arctic prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM7PmvBdLDM

id just give this a watch

keep in mind the combos he mentions are outdated so proviso is new #1 priority

[ornate saffron]

is it worth it if I don't play the game every 12 hours?

I still play daily, but it can exceed to 16 hours for example

[arctic prism]

yeah
the end goal is to increase how long your best units work in the base

doesnt matter if you log in twice a day or once a week

fiametta will increase that uptime

[ornate saffron]

and what if kafka is dead?

[arctic prism]

swap her with bibeak or any of the other ops with the same skill

[ornate saffron]

oh yeah, she's replacable

That's actually insane how much opps I should level only for the base

I leveled 6 5* to E2 today and it feels like I should level 6 more already

[novel pier]

How much more recruitment can u get with saileach compared to not using her? I’m thinking about dropping her and just opt for another production skill unit.

[ornate saffron]

oh btw, should I still use drones only on Proviso in this setup?

[arctic prism]

yes
unless no gold

[arctic prism]

i dont remember what the exact numbers were but yea it's up to you
i just know that a lot of us stopped using her

[summer kernel]

20%HR is 0.4 refreshes a day so statistically you'll get 1 higher rarity recruitment tag set in 10 days.

[elder cedar]

sorry does someone know how many lmd is needed for a 10x pull if done in base?

[short sail]

is 60k lmd daily good? what's like the max for lmd in base?

[arctic prism]

60k is solid

[fluid pollen]

[arctic prism]

theoretical max daily lmd for 252 is probably something like 90~100k but to reach that you're literally not allowed to sleep

[fluid pollen]

24hr cursed gg

[arctic prism]

yea lmao

[pale yoke]

You guys are overestimating 252 (as always) smh my head

Fake news and propaganda

[long wren]

ops that boost morale recovery speed in base don't get trust for doing so right?

[frank cipher]

every op in riic got daily trust

[jaunty notch]

if they're in a slot, they get trust

[long wren]

so these two get trust

[jaunty notch]

yes

[elder cedar]

how do u do ur base like what are ur operators? and how do u do rotations?

[long wren]

thanks

gain slow af

[jaunty notch]

that's what assistants and activity rooms are for

[short sail]

I do 252 with maxed right
TP1 is shamare teq team
TP2 proviso
proviso and shamare getting fiametta'd most of the time so rotation quite easy (since they just never left the TP

could be better but solid enough so I just leave it like that

[elder cedar]

for shamare teq team when do u rotate them out or does shamare always stay in tp since she gets fiametta when shes low like do u check on shamare every 12 hours?

[valid storm]

of course

[short sail]

something like this, but bibeak's downtime is covered by diamante so I could use fiametta for proviso

[elder cedar]

kind of confused on what im looking at for the right siide

why is shamare refreshed at thestart?

[short sail]

so fia could rest

[elder cedar]

what does refresh mean?

[short sail]

when you put an op then fia inside the dorm, their morale is swapped

[elder cedar]

right ok

so after 12 hours u put shamare in the dorm?

[short sail]

you put her with fia

[fallow moss]

im currently on 252 MR, with proviso in a L2 TP. How do i transition to 2 L3 TPs? is the tradeoff 1 L3 Fac going to L2 and running gold on 3 Fac?

[elder cedar]

so after 12 hours we refresh her again?

[short sail]

i'm no expert in managing their downtime tho, that's why sometimes teq couldn't get fia's refresh

[elder cedar]

got it

what abt teqilla then does he get swapped out?

[short sail]

i'm not rlly sure, but when I couldn't log in on time, i'd just replace him
too lazy to think when you're rlly busy irl

[elder cedar]

mmmmm ok

but u say proviso and shamare get fiameeta does that work at 12 hour mark to have both their morale refilled?

[short sail]

you don't need to wait for 12hr mark, as long as fia morale is full, it'll work

[short sail]

if your right side is maxed (like me) you need to sacrifice 1 fac to get 2 L3 TP
it'll be 1 L3 Fac and 2 L3 TP
I leave 1 TP to be L2 tho since Proviso works just fine with it

[fallow moss]

yea thats wat im doing rn. Cuz i dont have the pieces for Sui team.

first CC team is Mylnar + knights. 2nd rot probably Gnosis core

[tranquil ingot]

anyone know the roi on bibeak/paprika/kafka e2

[short sail]

wow

[fallow moss]

how much gold fac r u running tho? to sustain proviso

[short sail]

3

[fallow moss]

all 3 in the L2 fac or?

[elder cedar]

also what level are ur operators for tp

[short sail]

i build most of them for IS and extra resources but E2lv1 should suffice if you're only going for their base skill, my proviso is e2lv1

[elder cedar]

are the rest also e2?

[short sail]

my teq is e0lv1
but shamare and diamante e2lv50 so so

[fallow moss]

shamare is worth the e2

[elder cedar]

i know provioso is e2 worthy

is bibeak worth it?

[short sail]

what bout teq?

[fallow moss]

in terms of base? not much. gameplay is so-so for a liberator

[elder cedar]

for base

so shamare and proviso only?

allthe others can be e0?

[short sail]

i build her because she's pretty
she's not rlly worth building just for the base skill

[elder cedar]

ok

[frank cipher]

in their team
shama 90%
teq 50%
bibeak etq 30%
that's thier worth
bibeak roi probably same as other base op
just teq/shama higher

[short sail]

okay thanks

[fallow moss]

numbers are there. only proviso kinda pays her cost back

i wouldnt worry so much until ur acc is very stable for gameplay, then u start raising random units anyways

[elder cedar]

oh my account is stable

[short sail]

@tranquil ingot

[elder cedar]

i just dont know much abt base stuff

[torn meteor]

currently im making about 60k lmd per day droning lmd, surely once i get shamare i can bring that up to 70k

[elder cedar]

37m lmd...... i want to produce more

[short sail]

whoa

[elder cedar]

im always around 48k lmd

[tranquil ingot]

ty

[short sail]

i'd start farming orundum if i got this much lmao

[fallow moss]

im avg 60-65k

[elder cedar]

thats what im trying to do

[fallow moss]

see if i can go higher with triple TP cuz i do have that gnosis setup im sitting on

[elder cedar]

i want to do that

i feel like i have all the ops but idk their base skills 😭

[fallow moss]

its all in the pins

[short sail]

I only have Amiya in CC tho, I should start learning those

[torn meteor]

triple TP burns gold insanely fast if all 3 are lmd i just need to point that out

[elder cedar]

yea im a lazy reader and busy in life so i just dump them in and let them sit there

[fallow moss]

i was alr having to drone gold on L2 tp

but my L2 proviso partner option was just hoe and the MH thingy

[torn meteor]

honestly you dont need much more than just amiya for base skills in CC, just look out for paprika or swire

[fallow moss]

er i kinda hit 60k consistent once i fixed Mylnar CC team + Fia rota

[short sail]

I got quartz and gummy for proviso

[torn meteor]

anything beyond that is just for optimization

[short sail]

i see

[short sail]

I just swap amiya and paprika right? they got same skill

[elder cedar]

What’s this?

[fallow moss]

Mylnar in cc, with his knight frens

[elder cedar]

Who’s his friends… and what’s cc?

[fallow moss]

that lets ur base rota be nice with fia's 12hr rotation

[short sail]

command centre

[elder cedar]

Ahhhhh

[fallow moss]

i have something like this

[elder cedar]

With this amount of exp cards do u think I should have my factory to produce all gold bars for lmd?

[elder cedar]

Don’t have the 2nd and third character is that a deal breaker?

[torn meteor]

nope

[fallow moss]

lmao with those amt of resources, ur just pullin my leg

[short sail]

sure, if you're low on bars

[short sail]

right right

[torn meteor]

theres like no "dealbreakers" as far as CC goes, just stuff that shifts who your better workers are

[elder cedar]

I’m not trying to flex… I just want to make more lmd for orundum

[short sail]

i think you could start farming orundum easily

[elder cedar]

i feel like ima run out of lmd even though i have a lot haha

[fallow moss]

we're being trolled here

[short sail]

just asking, but how long have you been playing?

[elder cedar]

when they had their first anniversry is whe i started playing but in year 2-3 i was on and off was not playing for like 6 months :)

[short sail]

I've got like 3k tactical

wow

[elder cedar]

but then again i also 💳

not on lmd.... only the 30 dollar or 50 dollar packs (1 time only)

[short sail]

[elder cedar]

i had such a hard time getting lmd when i first started and i made it my goal to make lmd like a lot of lmd i guess thats why i have a lot rn......

[short sail]

make sense

I got like 70k LMD

[elder cedar]

i wish i could donate u some of my lmd HAHA

[short sail]

[torn meteor]

im back up to 240k, its really nice averaging +60k lmd per day passively lmao

[leaden grove]

That’s not a good idea since you have to think about the opportunity cost of your better non-gold workers

[short sail]

righttt, with the lots of new ops I got, building them is really a hassle. I thought i got enough LMD for them

[torn meteor]

my setup isnt even that expensive too, like i just have proviso quartz working around the clock thanks to fia then jaye courier matterhorn(gnosis in cc) and texas lappland chillchuck

[elder cedar]

what do u mean

[torn meteor]

once i have shamare im pretty sure i go up to 65k-70k lmd per day

[short sail]

if you went all gold, those ops you've invested for EXP card won't have any use

[elder cedar]

wait now im so confused.....

[torn meteor]

i mean thats under the assumption you built them just for base which might not be the case for everything

[leaden grove]

If you have all gold workers, then you have to dust off shitty 15/20% gold skills and use them instead of your good 35/40+% exp workers

[short sail]

you could easily

[elder cedar]

ohh i didnt invest anyones for base wise i only invested ones i liked....

[torn meteor]

ok yeah thats true but also we have a lot of 30% gold/flex workers these days so its not gonna feel as bad

[elder cedar]

like they will still produce gold right? just at a very low rate

[clear steppe]

is it possible to run this team without dusk?

[short sail]

just slower, at the same time you're losing like more exp by choosing to produce more gold

[elder cedar]

got it got it im just assuming bc i have so much exp cards so i dont think i mind just doing gold bars.....

[torn meteor]

yes it is

[clear steppe]

Oh nice

im gonna use Yu or Shu then

[leaden grove]

Which is why I brought up the point I did

[torn meteor]

ling and chongyue are the more important of the CC workers in that setup

[clear steppe]

need to E2 my Mr nothing 1st

[torn meteor]

dusk is basically just a smiley that comes with 15 WP and 10 PI

if hypothetically we were to cut a sui from CC in the WP setup it would be dusk(not that i think we are doing that)

[clear steppe]

im missing dusk and nian for the sui sibling

[torn meteor]

unfortunate, but the setup is still good without them

theres very few singular ops you can pair with proviso that are 40% or higher

when umiri drops vigil becomes the 2nd best proviso partner outside of pozy setups just because hes already a 40 and the next best thing from mrnothing other than tuye is a 41 being the cat from the MH collab

[meager meadow]

is it gonna be a long while until they add fia in kernel pool

[daring glacier]

how do i complete this quest with 3-2-2 all my dorms lv1

[pale yoke]

you don't

[meager meadow]

you just level up the dorm what's the issue

[daring glacier]

its a main mission quest. like the left most tab.

[meager meadow]

if you are having power issues just downgrade one facility to nothingness

build the dorm

hit the ambience

[novel pier]

Do yall prefer whisperain or Mulberry. Is 20% more production on Ros better or 10% more TP production and 2% increase to Jieyun?

[meager meadow]

whisp

[novel pier]

I'm also using 153

[valid storm]

You temporarily downgrade a few facilities for a higher level dorm then undo it

[novel pier]

I'm using mulberry rn since I only have 1 tp so I though more TP production could be better but I can try out whis and see how it goes

[meager meadow]

who is the tp team though

[novel pier]

mrnothing, eben and proviso

[meager meadow]

well as long as your lmd:xp output is 1.3:1, it's fine

i run 252 and having the extra prod on ros helps me even out the xp produce so that it's not overshadowed by lmd produce

i think 153 is xp hardcore setup, right? that means
a) you got surplus LMD, meaning chonky ros would help with quickly bringing xp stockpile to speed
b) you just prefer more xp from base and your stockpiles are actually even, in that case id just mulberry to ensure the LMD stockpile doesn't fall short

[novel pier]

yep, that's pretty much what I was thinking. Since I use 5 lvl 3 factories. 3 exp and 2 gold, I dont really lack resources coming in. The 1 TP limits the amount of LMD I can get so I though maybe mulberry is better even tho I like Whisperain buff more

[meager meadow]

yeah the ros faction just loves winning

but yeah the mulberry buff is more suitable for your needs

[desert notch]

I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong or if this is normal for them to not lose morale?

[meager meadow]

you aren't doing anything wrong

it's just math at play

[desert notch]

as soon as i rip off one, it goes to 90h

i assume i reached a +1 morale gain?

[meager meadow]

yep

[desert notch]

beats me, i get to get a little bit of trust everyday then

[pale yoke]

[round lichen]

Since CC is Lv5, morale consumed per hour is 1-.25=0.75
Hibalter + Lavalter + Krooster gives +.15 MR for each alter in CC
You’re using 5 alters, so 5*(.15)=0.75

[craggy horizon]

Worth E1ing Arene for base?

[jaunty notch]

He’s a nice Guard too

[orchid bane]

20% is always nice to use , you must either have 20 Op less than 20 morale for his fodder or your rest shift is full 20 OP slot

[thin minnow]

Chat is this real

[thin minnow]

Yes

Did Exialter really just almost double the previous highest multi-morale recovery cap of 0.3/hr (Lumen/Penance)

[jaunty notch]

no lol

same localization mistake as usual

[thin minnow]

bruuuuuuuh

[jaunty notch]

since they just copy paste the translations sometimes

[thin minnow]

😭

She's got the energy

Make it happen

[jaunty notch]

so tomimi, santalla also had the same mistake

all the same type

[thin minnow]

lmfao they each have a different translation

woah spooky update

[oblique swan]

bubble team is fine for both exp and gold right

also for muelsyse's base skill, does it count both the trainer and trainee in the training room

[wicked canopy]

yes it does, the only operators that aren't counted for skills like that are base assistants and operators in activity rooms

[oblique swan]

ok

[round lichen]

@oblique swan there are tons of exp workers already, Bubble should be treated as a suboptimal gold team when your main team gets fatigued

[oblique swan]

i dont really have a great exp team tho

i might if i get tragoidia

[orchid bane]

[lucid pasture]

if i plan to level reception room to 3 at some point when my characters are maxed, should i do it already or level a factory to level 3 then downgrade later?

[arctic prism]

I don't think anyone here is going to give you advice on how to damage your account
If you're dead set on wanting to level it up, then I'd say to just do it

[torn meteor]

@arctic prism i remember somebody mentioning your dead lancet calcs, could i see them?

[arctic prism]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yaYuwktu3Gwvt9QmzX1NeOnUZ4aYWSeviFH_4Jus4lk/edit?usp=sharing

ignore sheet 2, that one is wip trying to evaluate tp% vs gold% vs xp%

[spare pivot]

Does teq need shamare or can he wwork with proviso and another OP? alsoo teq and proviso e2 to get best value from their base skill?

[arctic prism]

teq and proviso kind of do opposite things, in that teq makes 4 gold orders better, while proviso makes 2 and 3 gold orders better
the reason why generally they arent used together (outside of curse) is due to there being methods to boost 4 gold order appearance rate (using an op with tailoring) or boost 2 and 3 gold order appearance rate (using lv2 tp)

they both do need e2 to get full value

[spare pivot]

[spare pivot]

so when I e2 prov, wwould you recommend downgrading one of my TPs to lvl2 for best Prov usage?

[lone ore]

I've been putting Mizuki in a knight setup without realizing all this time

[arctic prism]

yeah that's usually what people do unless you have enough power to not need to do that (e.g. 3 power plant setups, maxed left 252 setups)

[lone ore]

I need Highmore...

[spare pivot]

nh I'm 252

[spare pivot]

Who is prov paired with most often?

[lone ore]

Req needs Shamare E2 to work

[spare pivot]

I don't have her

[lone ore]

Just anyone with high productivity like Vigil or the cats

[arctic prism]

it varies on what you have
whatever highest % op

[spare pivot]

does e0 vigil work?

[lone ore]

Well

Is it your best performing worker

You may have better choices

[arctic prism]

iirc no, e0 doesnt

[torn meteor]

tysm

[lone ore]

You can check the base combo guide for options

[spare pivot]

[spare pivot]

apprualter e2

[lone ore]

Works fine

But what's your swap in

[spare pivot]

Sash

or quartz

[lone ore]

Oh sorry

I meant for the T3

What teams are you using there

[spare pivot]

wait let me ss

[lone ore]

Me personally I do Teq -> Pengi

but just for a bit it's mostly Teq under a Mlynar HP buffer

[spare pivot]

im just reunning mostly 4stars

[lone ore]

So you don't have any 3 member TP teams I'm guessing

I mean it's fine really

Unless you need the LMD quick you can always stockpile the gold bars

[lone ore]

You'll chew threw them really fast once you get proper TP teams running eventually anyway

Factory teams are much more important

[spare pivot]

I'm averaging 37000+ LMD everyday, I'd say it's ookay

[spare pivot]

I have excess production since I'm doing 3gold, 2exp for now

since I'm not upgrading any OPs any time soon

[lone ore]

It's fine

[arctic prism]

yea i think you're not quite at the point where I'd be worrying about combos yet, just take your time filling out roster and leveling people for progression
then once you have enough resources where e2 doesnt feel like a huge burden can start thinking about this stuff

[spare pivot]

[lone ore]

I've got 50k LMD production

[spare pivot]

Oki oki

[lone ore]

and 4 million left after E2ing all my 6*

Base optimization is a thing of passion

[spare pivot]

I'd be broke

[lone ore]

For the longest time the only team I ran was Penguin + Proviso

You'll be fine

[spare pivot]

I should do wwhat Cho said for now since my squad isn't even built

[spare pivot]

There's aa op named penguin?

[lone ore]

Penguin Logistics

[spare pivot]

ohhh

[lone ore]

Yeah they're probably the most accessible 3 team combo

[spare pivot]

So apprualter and prov e2 will wwork fine, no?

[lone ore]

Could be yeah

[lone ore]

Wait wait hold on

Exu Alter?

She gives +15% for each Laterano in the same TP

Proviso and herself don't count that so she gives 0

[spare pivot]

hmm I'll just put the highest one

[wind otter]

||2nd Fia nau ||

[lone ore]

If you don't have either of these

Any +30% bonus should work

[wind otter]

today is Tuesday, so we gamble for clue # 4 today

[spare pivot]

I have lemuen, vigil, exusiai, snowwsant, quartz

[valid storm]

I have a clue 4

[wind otter]

noice, savior it, protect it, and cherish it as one should

[lone ore]

You can check the numbers below their cells to see what their efficiency would be

Snowsant wouldn't work for example because she asks for efficiency from others

Quartz might be your best option of Exusiai isn't E2d or if it's Exu Alter

Otherwise any plain old +30% should suffice

[royal rivet]

How much lmd are you guys making per day in base? I'm making around 54k

[novel pier]

Probably somewhere around 40k, droning LMD as well

If I optimize it, I can probably reach 50k at least, doing cursed proviso/having a better rotation, but I’m just using a basic 3 man team and logging in twice a day

[royal rivet]

I was thinking that maybe i'm doing something wrong since everyone says they have as much lmd and exp as they need and they spend their time farming mats instead. I'm the opposite, i pretty much never farm mats and instead am always down on my lmd and exp...

[wind otter]

60k+ without droning Proviso, 70k and beyond if you do

[novel pier]

I think 55k is what I used to make back when I used 2 TP. Do you max your unit out to lvl 90? If you don’t idk how you burn through resources so fast

[pallid isle]

exp is still a big bottle neck even for me just because I am now just raising a bit of everything

I also haven't swapped to 3 exp in a while

getting a lot of 5* and 6* to level 50 or 60 e2 is still a lot of exp but idk why i am bothering as much with that since I don't got the module blocks either

[arctic prism]

after starting to curse my fia timings dont exist anymore

i just check if she's alive between orders and if she is someone gets refreshed

[fluid pollen]

curse

[frank cipher]

bro awakening RCT

[arctic prism]

lol tbh it's not as bad as it seems

[wind otter]

[orchid bane]

[fluid pollen]

Cursing is funny, when I tried it last time it didn’t feel that bad either. Then quit bc didn’t have time and my impression of it has only gotten worse.

[pale yoke]

agree, that's why we all don't curse here

we hate people who curse

[fluid pollen]

[pale yoke]

[arctic prism]

[zenith python]

anywhere between 40 and 50k, when I'm not completely out of gold, that is

drone for it but it aint enough

I left one of my trading posts idle for a few days because it was full and didn't put anyone back on it until all my posts were back at 0 orders

[zenith python]

(my gold is still running out btw)

[arctic prism]

might i suggest switching another factory over to gold...?

[wind otter]

@orchid bane how much gold do you get from the mines on average?

[arctic prism]

wait did they change catapult recruit line?

it feels shorter

used to be 3 rows of text now it's just 2

[wind otter]

I see no difference from operator voice lines

[arctic prism]

I might be trippin

[wind otter]

recruitment text speed update

[cedar steeple]

Operation Reserve Team A6 member Catapult, reporting in! Hey, I can tell you're hella different from that stuffy old bit - I mean, that esteemed, honorable instructor Ms. Dobermann. Right? Like it's obvious!

[wind otter]

I know you posted that shit from memory

[summer wren]

Hi, can someone recommend a good setup. https://www.krooster.com/u/erald_flores optimal base workers/operators assignment: 2/5 (3 gold, 2 exp)/2.. it's okay if too much work since I really dont have the recommended setup per Base Combo Guide.

[knotty flax]

idm looking at this, but I don't have all the knowledge in the world

does anyone know if 243 gets any better with proviso and a lvl 2 TP? Just a thought after seeing PeterYR's video

@summer wren do you have the right side open? what about proviso?