r-i-i-c

[orchid bane]

But like I said Mly works longer

[scarlet swan]

What about 4 smiles?
Or does that ruin smth

[orchid bane]

Yea that is -0.25. But you use all 5 slots no

[scarlet swan]

Oh
What should I use instead of the 5 th slot?

[orchid bane]

This is just for compare , you just use whatever you see fit

Some ppl use mlynar or Wis + 4 R6S

Cause they don't want to swap CC

[mint bloom]

Why is 2-5-2 superior to 2-4-3

[vague geyser]

each facility has 100% base production.

the difference from a maxed out 243 to a max right 252 is that extra facility at the cost of one worker slot
basically trading one worker for a base 100% production.

unless that one worker slot or the extra combos which rely on the maxed out base levels can exceed that 100% production difference, max right 252 will be stronger in addition to requiring less operators to run.

of course having a lower level right side, which gives extra levels to production facilities and thus also extra worker slots, widens the gap further.

[pale yoke]

Can't mark me I'm too elusive

[pale yoke]

And also store credit, always mention store credit

[leaden grove]

Vigna and spot have mutually exclusive base skills

No proviso?

[minor plank]

i dont got proviso sadly. but does that mean i shouldnt use vigna and spot?

[leaden grove]

You should check their skills…

[minor plank]

i’m not home rn but idk who to switch them with

i’ve checked the spread sheets and these don’t work

[jaunty notch]

what doesn't work?

also you can just look at their skills in the game

[minor plank]

majority of my six stars

[minor plank]

yeah

i js put stuff that like were viable

[jaunty notch]

and yes vigna and spot are for different recipes, so put them in different facs

[minor plank]

figured that out

[jaunty notch]

and yeah not a lot of meta 6* have useful base skills

[pale yoke]

Looking at it, I think only ines virtu and gladi

[jaunty notch]

in hindsight virtu isn't even categorized as good

it's 2%

and you need a specific 6*

[wind otter]

supplementary base skill

tomorrow is one of those rare days when weekly reset and monthly reset meet in the same day, a shower of rewards

[wind otter]

that's the joke @orchid bane , that I know you didn't report the bug when you said you would smh

[wind otter]

new mujica collab furniture is so goth I fear Phantom will self-appoint as assistant

[orchid bane]

I said ?

Maybe, I thought I was just asking where to report

[wind otter]

there you go

[orchid bane]

That was where I wonder if I should do it

[wind otter]

can't trust red, too wishy-washy

[valid storm]

but I did, through various channels

so now everyone knows that the they got from me wasn't by accident

[orchid bane]

Don't give me 1000$ , I won't give you back 10000$

[wind otter]

can trust wrys, very decisive

[valid storm]

why?

I'm very trustworthy

[wind otter]

did you read that properly wrys?

[orchid bane]

|| It was the test , to see if Yos is spying on this Chanel, they actually doing it, wrys is trying to cover them||

[wind otter]

can't trust red to even place US money symbol in the proper spot smh

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

[valid storm]

yesn't

[wind otter]

[valid storm]

My dyslexia stroke again

[misty saffron]

upgrade TP, Factory or PP first

any priority?

[jaunty notch]

if you're really new, check pins for step by step building guide

[rose knoll]

Not directly base related but
https://youtu.be/Vv1T4lzU3sE

Made a farming sheet

[valid storm]

time to steal the sanity values

[rose knoll]

Noo please don't use IMPORTRANGE on rows 1 and 3 of the 'data' tab and consider using transpose to make a lookup table

[valid storm]

these values won't change until new chapter

why would I make my life harder by not making them constant?

[leaden grove]

Omg I’m famous

[pale yoke]

bit dramatic innit?

[willow dune]

can someone reexplain why kohl has no stages

like why does the infinite shop cause it to drop in value sm

[jaunty notch]

when you can get it almost everywhere and at a lower price, it's internal value decreases

p already explained it in the vid

[round lichen]

The stage with the best efficiency for farming LMD is CE-6, which gives 10,000 LMD for 36 sanity, so 1 LMD has a sanity value of 0.0036. Since events now offer either infinite LMD or Kohl at an exchange rate of 20 LMD for 1 currency and 1 Kohl for 25 currency, we can assume that these offers are equivalent in value. Using the sanity value from CE-6 we calculate that 1 event currency earns 20(0.0036) = 0.072 sanity’s worth after clearing out the shop. Multiply by 25 currency needed to buy a Kohl and we get that 1 Kohl has a sanity value of 1.8.

Since Peter’s sheet considers the “main drop” of a stage to be the material that accounts for the largest share of the sanity value, and since events drastically reduce the value of Kohl, no main story stage drops enough Kohl for it to be the majority of the sanity value.

Think about it this way: if you ever are in need of Kohl, would you rather:
(a) farm it from an event where you get 1 Kohl every 1.2 runs in ADDITION to the main drops from event stages, or
(b) mald main story stages that will not consistently drop the material you’re looking for and will almost never give you 2 T3 mats from 1 run

[willow dune]

makes sense

[pale yoke]

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

||2nd Fia ||

[west yarrow]

Can 1 tp and 1 factory keep up with each other for orundumbs farming
Or would I need more shard production

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1371460159452352512.png?quality=lossless&name=shiroutink&size=48

[valid storm]

Your bottleneck is 1-7, and 1 factory usually could keep up with the TP while I was doing orundumb farming

[west yarrow]

Mhm
I have like 1.8k rocks I'll farm until I run out

Ok that's a bit sad...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1273564221715517491.png?quality=lossless&name=daysad&size=48

[valid storm]

it's still 15 pulls

and you can always throw in your stockpile

[languid blaze]

free pull everyday for 15 day

[valid storm]

you should buy monthly card and get 1/3 pull every day

[jaunty notch]

or i can just buy HG and get unlimited pulls

one can obviously see the better deal

[valid storm]

Why should I purchase a musical company?

[west yarrow]

Hmm that's another 15 pulls awooga

[pale yoke]

i saw ave mujika kit

wadafa

[orchid bane]

well they look more like a team than R6S or dungeon meshi team

IDK if there are MHW team

[wind otter]

Shared range, increased ASPD between them, semi-global damage, free activation of all team skills at the same time even if their skills are not charge without using their charged skills? What's the big deal?

[pale yoke]

[wind otter]

[fluid pollen]

Cinema

[jaunty notch]

all ops in sakiko's range gets aspd buff

[wind otter]

so not exactly in her range but "beside" her range, as in ranges being in contact

I was wondering that

[jaunty notch]

yeah 1 square overlap

[wind otter]

epic

[pale yoke]

year 5 synergy be like

[edgy valley]

Actual Numbers pending, sakiko seems easiest to use with umiri, as theres basically always a spot for her. 3 adjacent ifrit lanes and her projectiles get stronger the further they travel. Year 5 indeed

[lilac sapphire]

Guys with a 252 base setup (2 factories lv3 and 3 factories lv2) should I do exp all lv3 factories and lmd all lv2 factories? And then use my drones in Proviso’s TP, is this balanced for farming both lmd and exp at the same time?

[jaunty notch]

It's ok to use a lv3 for gold bars to optimize some combos (Bryo). Doing what you suggested is good as well, but you can always switch to 3 XP fac if you feel like your gold trend is increasing so don't worry too much about balance.

[lilac sapphire]

Ok thx

[pallid isle]

this is like me when i look at my planner

seeing i need another 1000 runs to raise the next 5 ops i want

[jaunty notch]

it feels bad to be poor huh

[pale yoke]

i just tested the clue thing again, no more crash this time the icon just dissapeared

[orchid bane]

[valid storm]

what the bug is?

[wind otter]

If you were in Reception when Clue Exchanged finished, the game would crash harder Mike Hughes.

[valid storm]

nice

[wind otter]

but the crash was softer than visiting wrys dorm # 1

[valid storm]

it crashes the game once again?

Hell yea!

[wind otter]

some people just want to see the world burn smh my head

[valid storm]

what? I just measure the dorm efficiency in crashed devices

[wind otter]

like a serial killer counting bodies

[valid storm]

I'm no serial killer, I'm just an architect

[wind otter]

architect of death

[cobalt citrus]

omg

[pale yoke]

wat

[wind otter]

I just had the weirdest dream where the Control Center suddenly became crowded, too crowded...

[winged hollow]

what the point of making 3 presets if automatically they only use the first 2 💀

[valid storm]

well, chapter 18 update gives us the second baee with a control center where you can put in 8 operators

[languid blaze]

can trust tap op in activity room?

[valid storm]

yes

[wind otter]

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-seseren-cute-drinking-sip-gif-17757374

[orchid bane]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-mudrock-bonk-doctor-gif-21368144

[pale yoke]

This happened multiple times now lol

[orchid bane]

Wat hapen ?

[jaunty notch]

honestly this is probably a device issue

coupled with server delays

[pale yoke]

i sure hope not device issue i just got this less than half a year

[pale yoke]

the UI not appearing

[orchid bane]

The one that let you quick claim ?

[pale yoke]

the overview

[jaunty notch]

time to buy a new one if your overview is not there

nor the notifications

[pale yoke]

16gb ram for asthetic

[orchid bane]

Oh that

[jaunty notch]

or just reset the app

mine crashes constantly anyway

[orchid bane]

I don't have that bug , Idk

[pale yoke]

yea i have to leave base and come back

[orchid bane]

[jaunty notch]

dragon boss spitting flames all over the map did NOT help

[pale yoke]

it just happen few times and figure it's noticable

[jaunty notch]

maybe it's because i have phone on low power mode too

[pale yoke]

i try look into my setting

[wind otter]

blue puke steals so much fps

[pale yoke]

maybe phone was restricting some energy stuff

[wind otter]

maybe it's just Priestess starting to act up

[pale yoke]

maybe base finally getting a real update

[wind otter]

a special update, just for you Cia

[pale yoke]

"you've been rotating ops too much we must restrict you"

[wind otter]

anyone could be next

I don't know about you people but to me, cucumbers are sooooo bland

[pale yoke]

[jaunty notch]

maybe HG can fund me a new PC

[wind otter]

next time you dine with Hai Mao you could slip a note under the table

[pale yoke]

please tell him the auto rotate sucks too while you're at it

[wind otter]

I don't think auto-rotation will ever be good enough until AI becomes self-aware and sensible to insults, so that we can improve its performance through "tough love"

[jaunty notch]

nah it'll just cry and deact itself

[wind otter]

damn, no shot at QoL then

[copper olive]

did someone analyse how good are mujica collab ops in control center

[spare jolt]

They're okay. On the weak side, but functional

[edgy valley]

I think theres some translation weirdness going on, mutsumi (per reddit post at least) should be a normal 7% tp worker with 60 passion and could umiri actually work with shamare? Sham zeroes other workers, not herself and translation makes it sound like the buff goes specifically on her?

[inner ocean]

i just read mujica base skill

i cannot fathom too much but

is the verdict not worth it since it kills a lot of combos that needs CC?

[wild ice]

yeah

[inner ocean]

even if I'm not too reliant on Rosmontis usage, just nerfing Mr Nothing value from it alongside Pinus and Weedy is just too much value loss

even if you only consider maybe SOME mujica (not all), you're still sacrificing some pieces.

Although that does make me think.

I still plan to use Swire + Hoshi Alt/Ya2 + Noir 2

so I wonder if it's worthwhile to do a 2-3 slot Mujica CC

this does force my 3-shift Eun to become 2-shift though due to lacking -MR on that shift

scratch that. it's weaker.

no changes then

[cursive seal]

Hey, sorry this is a bit off topic. I made an updated farming guide png based off of PeterYR's doc. I was hoping some spreadsheet nerds here could check it for any obvious issues with accuracy/readability.

[wild ice]

yeah im double checking rn

[wild ice]

you could ping peter here or even dm him

[pale yoke]

assuming EN read is the first mistake

[cursive seal]

True, @rose knoll the above seems relevant to your interests? Or at least be informed of how useful i found the video/google doc.

[cursive seal]

That is the eternal struggle.

[valid storm]

this is how currently we design them, a bit more readable to mev

I'll update it once Chapter 15 drops

[jaunty notch]

fixed on cucumber, ty that was my bad. and no Sham

[cursive seal]

If you are planning to put one out after chapter 15 is on EN then I probably don't need to bother.

I had just assumed that the lack of a new one had to do with no gamepress, as opposed to just no up to date Google doc to make a new one from

[valid storm]

nah, it was Moe's spreadsheet dying after chapter 13

and no replacement until now

[ebon beacon]

My only piece of feedback is that I think there's not actually a real difference between adverse and standard stages. The only perceived difference is driven by margin of error or sampling issues. The evidence suggests that the underlying code has equivalent drop rates for a stage no matter what difficulty you play it on.

[valid storm]

there's 0 difference in drop rates based on Penguin Stats

[pale yoke]

dammit there was a maint

[valid storm]

of course

/maint

[supple hedge]

𝗦𝗵𝗮𝘄

When will Maintenance End? When can we use Aak to kill W? When can we mess with our friends in the Icebreaker games?

The scheduled maintenance lasts from <t:1756994400:f> to <t:1757005200:f>
Start: <t:1756994400:R>
End: <t:1757005200:R>
(P.S: The date and time displayed here adjust based on your own time zone)

Compensation: 300 , 40

[valid storm]

it's just 3 hours

[pale yoke]

wasn't aware of it so didnt plan a rotate before it

account literally bricked because of this

[valid storm]

you only have to rotate before the 6h ones

[pale yoke]

my next rotate is in 5min lol

[valid storm]

skill issue

[pale yoke]

what skill

[valid storm]

time management

[pale yoke]

that doesn't even make sense in this context

[valid storm]

it does because your rotation times are set to happen mid maintenance instead of making it to happen before or after

[pale yoke]

so you just didnt read what you reply to...got it

[valid storm]

I can't read

[pale yoke]

EN

[valid storm]

no, dyslexia

[pale yoke]

no, diarrhea

[valid storm]

no, what you were thinking of is dysgraphia

[pale yoke]

isn't that a kind of dinosaur?

[valid storm]

no, dinos are nuggies

[pale yoke]

why the hell is there a maint so soon tho like...we just got one before the event and this one really caught me off guard

[cursive seal]

That does make sense. The numbers on Peter's doc make it look like 11-11 and 12-19 do have pretty different efficiency, and 11-11 does have a good number of samples, but I assume that comes from the efficiency number exaggerating a small differences in drop rates, and those stages just happen to be the outliers for samples.

[valid storm]

you can do some statistical machinations to adjust the drop rates for stages with lower reports

or you could just throw out the stages with reports below 1k

I should do some calcs to figure out which is the minimum sample size and how should I adjust lower sample stages

[wind otter]

emergency maint to fix crooked KFC Ifrit & Quaso

[pale yoke]

can't help it i guess, small indie company have it hard

[valid storm]

watch it getting worse

[wind otter]

Ifrit sprite replaced by random chicken wing png

[wind otter]

you know Icebreaker Games starts today, right?

[pale yoke]

[wind otter]

that's why maint

[pale yoke]

is that the co op one?

[wind otter]

yep

[pale yoke]

make sense

time to Aak

[wind otter]

don't you dare Aak my W

[valid storm]

can I Aak your Eyja then?

[pale yoke]

as much as i enjoy co op event i dont like it when i have to deal with 300+ ping

[wind otter]

sure

[wind otter]

you have to Aak their Reedalter then

[pale yoke]

watch streamer play on 60+ ping meanwhile i have to deal with 2sec delay of all action

ill aak any specialist they have

[wind otter]

have you tried playing on the roof for better reception?

[pale yoke]

i tried standing next to the window

that didnt help much

[wind otter]

[pale yoke]

no access to roof

[wind otter]

don't you hate it when the roof police puts up barricades

[pale yoke]

they deleted the ladder right after they built the roof so no one can go up now

[wind otter]

they must be hiding something up there, that's where they might be keeping the rest of your pings hostage

[pale yoke]

real

[wind otter]

[pale yoke]

[valid storm]

have you tried the clipping glitch to get there?

[pale yoke]

i doubt getting on the roof would help tbh and it's pretty cold out rn
haven't tried that yet but will put a pin on it

[pale yoke]

zyf really want 7

[orchid bane]

Guess he does

-# ||How about I give u so you could send him later ||

[pale yoke]

Send him directly I'm no UPS

[orchid bane]

But . but

His name is futher

[pale yoke]

I think the game sort name by people to recently sent you clue> people who visited your base> no interaction

[orchid bane]

Ye

Offline last

[pale yoke]

Ye

Base on experience anyway

[orchid bane]

Not sure but I hope the new friend sp prior have something to do with this. Sometime I just want my list stay the same

But probably not

[pale yoke]

9 phut hehe

[orchid bane]

@rose knoll I believe you already notice. the demand for Sugar T4 and Poly T4 is way less than everything else, so I propose to make another color for it so ppl can look at them and tell what is the best map here without those T4 as "yellow" drop

it is fine for Poly cause the best map there don't have T4

[orchid bane]

vietnamese for minute

[plucky basin]

is entelechia actually the best aoe dorm op now?

[orchid bane]

Coldshot could be 0.4 for 2 slots
Lumen could be 0.35 for PP count setup

Virtuosa could be 0.37, so no

[plucky basin]

that's the thing, lumen and virtuosa require specific setups, and coldshot only works for 2 ops at once

ente gives 0.3 for 4 slots

I'm only using coldshot of these

[pale yoke]

depends on setup but she will never be best in either

[orchid bane]

It could be your best

[pale yoke]

best she get was 2nd best

[orchid bane]

Tbf those 3 could all be lower than her

[pale yoke]

when sui resting she's 2nd best when eun resting she's 2nd best when knight resting she's 3rd best

never first

smh my head

L

[orchid bane]

I rest Sui and Automata team at the same time

Could use her good, but I did pull her

[languid blaze]

probably best unconditional aoe dorm worker to lock aside vir gib 2%

[pale yoke]

non-mR enter the chat*

we can never win

[pale yoke]

i didnt pull for her either she spooked me on necrass banner

[plucky basin]

meanwhile she's best in all situations for my setup

[pale yoke]

yea that can be the case

some people have durin best

not surprising

[plucky basin]

I can't really make use of coldshot 0.4 since I need bulk dorm more than specific ones

and lumen/virtuosa are just durin level

[pale yoke]

virt can be worst than durin during sui rest or best during eun rest

so that's that

[plucky basin]

yeah she prob is worse

I gave up on sound combo long ago

[pale yoke]

if you dont run sui then yea

virt is the best dorm mom for weedy/greyter that's about sums it up for her

Just happen to be resting them

[plucky basin]

I do run sui, but I don't have weedy

I have a special swap cycle though, so hard to adapt to the best strategies

[wind otter]

what a hater

[cobalt citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/774498351408087043/1162624206471712861/is_this_true.gif

[pale yoke]

Her fault for spooking me on necrass banner

All hate is justified

[pale yoke]

Yes it is

[wind otter]

[wind otter]

at least you got banana, right? .... right?

[pale yoke]

yes

like 80 pulls i think

didnt get the 5 star btw

[orchid bane]

That is understandable

Only pure 2%

[pale yoke]

went to spain but without the s

[round lichen]

The Entelechia slander…

I actually hadn’t considered that Lumen would be buffed by dead Lancet

Gameplay wise Entel is the best hit-count op in the game, has global damage, plus it’s just satisfying to see red numbers and watch her melt hordes

Meanwhile Banana needs 6 weeks’ notice to get her summons powered up

[primal wind]

how to use 3-5-2 formation ? it out of energy

i see in vdo he can fit all lv3 building

[jaunty notch]

the demo right side is not upgraded

https://youtu.be/sBw1UW03crs?si=lfmW2q75HK8EHem6

this is what you need

[leaden grove]

Can I ask why 342🥹

[primal wind]

i need more money

i have a lot of gold bar

can someone explain about this sheet ?

i confuse how to set up my base

how about the Formation 2 on my FAC? what should i use? pallas+ substitutes ?

[languid blaze]

vermeil team for 3 slot fac, better run 30% 30% in 2 slot fac if don't have any better than that

[primal wind]

are you have any sheet that can i copy and paste on 252 base ?

confuse again lol

i see a sheet what is number on the most left what is red colour and why the same operator on building ?

what formation 1 2 3 should i setted

confuse ing

[languid blaze]

number on left is 12h shift
red is operator use for swap morale with fia every 12h

[primal wind]

that mean i should swap formation every 12 h ?

[languid blaze]

not everyone but yeah

[primal wind]

then how to set formation 1 2 3 ?

this is right ?

maybe shouild i copy this and swap them every 12h.

thay have a lot of gold production i have gold spare over 2000+ but the build have only 2 trading port is it ok? it too many gold spare

[round lichen]

@primal wind if you use all your drones on Proviso and use Fia to refresh her morale, you will probably burn through all of your gold in about 8 months

[primal wind]

who is Fia ?

[round lichen]

Fiammetta

[primal wind]

ok

anyone can substitute nian in WS ?

and where should i place shu ? top?

[valid storm]

welp, I did an at least 115 improvement over my last design, and it's just the first pieces

and I love that we have 15 default slots instead of the old 10

[lusty shuttle]

Is degen worth using despite her drawback for tp, and who best to pair her with?

[orchid bane]

Gnosis Jaye E0 SA Degen, and you have a 145% TP but losing 4% each order, the more you login the better this team

@valid storm do you have this ?

[valid storm]

sadly no, that's prereg gift

but I could make one irl

[orchid bane]

Like I am not prereg

I just started this game around Skadi event

So Idk why I have it

[wind otter]

#r-i-i-c message

alzheimer is serious stuff

[orchid bane]

I know I talked about this

But at that time I didn't know that I have it

You could check my msg there

If you started this game early like me, maybe you could have it too somewhere Idk

[wind otter]

you don't have it. it's prereg and you didn't prereg

[valid storm]

No, it's not possible, you had to preregister for that one

[orchid bane]

I remember when I started playing , my friend had already been playing for awhile before he invited me

and I even Insisted on waiting for the game to be available on CHplay, back then my friend downloaded it somewhere else

[wind otter]

so if: a) red didn't pre-register and b) he has amiya bag then c) he did the illegal
smh red criminal enterprise

[orchid bane]

there are no such things

[wind otter]

prison is serious stuff

[orchid bane]

I am not the kind of person who blackmailed Yostar headquarter around 4 years and 5 months ago

[wind otter]

[wind otter]

speaking of crime, tf is pablo escobar doing in spain?

[orchid bane]

just my acitivity room

do you play this game early ?

how about checking chair => sofas

[wind otter]

I wasn't in the scene of the crime

[orchid bane]

[valid storm]

maybe you did preregister but forgot

[orchid bane]

[valid storm]

Aaand... It's done

guess, how much is this

[orchid bane]

Idk but senshi voice is running in my head

[valid storm]

?

[orchid bane]

[orchid bane]

Senshi always say this or something like this after cooking

I wonder why we have r6s here but no dungeon meshi collab

[pale yoke]

damn look so blury

[orchid bane]

Probably copyrights

[valid storm]

I see, I see

[orchid bane]

[opal dock]

prob thats non canon ig

[orchid bane]

but I think they make r6s non-canon too

[pale yoke]

i didnt read meshi story

was it good?

[orchid bane]

well I should stop here. better discuss this in #ak-lore

[pale yoke]

no

there are people in main general chat talking about offtopics they aren't so strict like they used to be now

[orchid bane]

I watch the anime, probally manga is very much the same, if you enjoy them then you could enjoy the story

[pale yoke]

and people literally having banters in saltmine lol

[pale yoke]

i did watch the anime recently

i like it

just wondering if its good in game

[valid storm]

it's canon, we know that because of Hibi and Senshi

[orchid bane]

basically each stage story they visit a new region got some funny story, and always end up Senshi cooking something

[valid storm]

And any guesses regarding my new ambience?

[orchid bane]

🥶

tbh I don't remember your lastone. maybe 40k ?

[valid storm]

Not yet, the previous one was 34,570

[orchid bane]

close enough

37k ?

[valid storm]

No

[orchid bane]

35k ?

[valid storm]

Bit more

[opal dock]

hmm ok

[simple comet]

I have 2 gold factories and 2 trading posts, but my trading posts are starting to fill up with orders and I want to use my drones on boosting EXP cards, should I let them get backed up and is this normal?

[fast spear]

..? just collect

[simple comet]

Wha

I mean my trading posts are starting to get more orders than I can fulfill due to lacking gold bars

[fast spear]

ur running out of gold?

😯

[simple comet]

Yeah, is that normal?

[fast spear]

cant say i've ever encountered that

[simple comet]

Ah

[fast spear]

who are your trading post workers

[simple comet]

I checked my teams, one of my 4 teams had basically 0 productivity, maybe that's why

[fast spear]

im not a base person at all but my base at least works

[simple comet]

they're this now

[fast spear]

heres my resume, i forgor to collect

[fast spear]

ok but what are they all making

[simple comet]

These are the 2 gold factory rotations

[fast spear]

see 💀

no idea how to help

all i did was look at the spreadsheet and my own ops

[simple comet]

I mean one of them I just improved so maybe that was why

maybe it's fine

[fast spear]

and figured the rest out myself

[simple comet]

yeah ofc

[fast spear]

im js a base fraud

uh

[simple comet]

I'm being a bit lazy and waiting on better ops or whenever I feel like locking stuff because like

[fast spear]

wait for someone else to help u ig

[simple comet]

Dorothy has this

[fast spear]

uh

yeah dorothy has a rhine lab team

[simple comet]

And I'm lazy to re-assign them all

[fast spear]

ig if y have silence and ptilopsis raised its good

[simple comet]

I don't no

[fast spear]

i think u can use e0?

[simple comet]

I don't have them at all

[fast spear]

idk check the spreadsheet

oh

💀

[simple comet]

xd

[leaden grove]

If you switch to 252 you will have an easier time of keeping gold stocks up without worrying about which characters to use… as long as they have a skill at all

[simple comet]

I'm happy with 243 rn tbh

it's just convenient that I can forget to rotate teams sometimes and it catches up rather quickly

and fun to spend the credit

even if it's prolly less efficient and all that

[leaden grove]

I thought you had gold issue

Maybe I misread

[simple comet]

Well in 252 I would still have 2 gold factories and 2 trading posts no?

So I thought this was just a new topic

[leaden grove]

No you could have 3 gold factories and 2 exp

[simple comet]

Yeah but like there is very little point to doing that no?

[leaden grove]

Why?

[simple comet]

Like it's only a small difference

[leaden grove]

It’s not

[simple comet]

because I don't need 1 more factory of gold, I just need a tiny amount more

[leaden grove]

There is a pinned guide on how to convert for a reason

And btw the credit store advantage with 243 is cope

The difference has been proven to be negligible

[simple comet]

I am aware and literally said it myself

[leaden grove]

You didn’t, I just reread but it’s whatever

Point is

[leaden grove]

This is not as true as you think it is if your trading posts are backed up. The extra factory will help a lot

[simple comet]

I did, I just reread but it's whatever

anyway thanks for the help, bai

[leaden grove]

“Fun to spend credit” doesn’t tell me anything

[fast spear]

me when

offers obvious solution to problem

rejects the solution

[round lichen]

Same, I got it in the mail despite no pre-reg. I figured it was just given to anyone who joined in the first month

[orchid bane]

so it really for

month 1 players

[leaden grove]

Mili moment

[pale yoke]

Classic

7️⃣

I don't think milichip knows about the credit store cope arguement, he probably thinks about gold or another factory in 252

[languid blaze]

~~pretty sure join on 3rd month ~~ I'm gonna pretend join on 1st day

[little saffron]

@valid storm I can't understand what's going on in your rooms now, but I like the dorms in the middle

[valid storm]

So, I started to redesign, then I had ~10 minutes left until reset, panicked, stashed in 5k worth of stuff, and forgot about it

But the top dorm is now much better

[little saffron]

I found one person with a 🤯 idea, wait I'll take a screenshot

[valid storm]

do they have 35k+ dorm design?

[little saffron]

No, but they have a Control Center "design"

[valid storm]

I already made many control center dorm designs

I wonder if I could make a Minoan room

[little saffron]

Here it is

[valid storm]

that's a dorm???

we don't even have these furnitures

[little saffron]

HG don't want to fix the dorm

[valid storm]

place the floor indicators at the to right corner, then move them

and there's a few furniture that are basically invisible in the top view

and a few in the wrong category...

[little saffron]

Blaze can also do a jumpscare in the reception room

[valid storm]

Interesting

[little saffron]

If I remember correctly, it's because of her drummer skin in the workshop

I don't have it, so I can't check quickly

[valid storm]

I have her drummer skin

but that's her alter's chibi

[little saffron]

Oh

[little saffron]

I should have ask you first

But I found her anyway

[valid storm]

[wind otter]

||base gamma||

[unkempt shuttle]

What do you drone in 252, is it whatever you just need more?

[orchid bane]

Yes basically

Whenever you use your drone on TP, it should be lv1 2 with Proviso or lv 3 with both Proviso Tequila

[pale yoke]

drone xp because proviso exist and that fact alone tip the scale toward LMD way too much already

[orchid bane]

@valid storm how much is chapter 15 set and how many parts we got there ?

[fluid pollen]

Why no furn parts

[orchid bane]

I am not buying parts from stores

Not sure if these are enough, waiting for new Tier 3 mat

[fluid pollen]

Wrys gonna beat you up fr for not buying most precious resource

[orchid bane]

Shhh

[valid storm]

4,585

and you should have bought every single you encounter

[orchid bane]

[valid storm]

oh, and you'll need a lot of for the Exe event

[orchid bane]

Kay, gonna buy from this event then

[valid storm]

good

[pale yoke]

red intentionally handicap himself

is like the guy on a bike

[valid storm]

so is everyone using 243 or it's variants

[pale yoke]

it varies

where is this from?

kinda random

[valid storm]

if you are using 243, you are handicapping yourself

[pale yoke]

not true, 243 can make 100k resources daily

[valid storm]

can it outperform 252?

[pale yoke]

252 is the one getting handicapped because they get less store credit daily

it adds up daily, not to mention long term

literally bricked

[valid storm]

the daily difference is around 200 credits at max, which is basically 1 item

[pale yoke]

and if you play for 4 years at this point

meth

[valid storm]

yes, but the amount of extra lmd and xp 252 production is more than 1 item in the shop

[pale yoke]

we hate it when mods spread misinformation smh my head

||imagine you're new here and stumble across this conversation lol||

[fluid pollen]

That’s the Ardanis guy’s argument right

[orchid bane]

[loud vapor]

can i have the room plan for this?

[valid storm]

Why do you need it?

[loud vapor]

yes, its for higher ambience right?

[valid storm]

It's the highest ambience, thought I could reach more if HG would put a few furniture back to the shop

[loud vapor]

can i have the furnitures plspls

[valid storm]

It has p2w furniture

[loud vapor]

thank alot!!

[orchid bane]

There goes my "400 sanity that suppose to be on 1-7"

These should be good enough till the eve mujica event. I guess

[valid storm]

you can always spend 10$ on

[orchid bane]

[pale yoke]

co op experience is your teammate dc when the map is flooded

[valid storm]

most maps can be cleared alone, so...

[pale yoke]

im doing coaching helping low lv doc clear stages

they just dc

[valid storm]

[pale yoke]

that map with the spiders lol

[valid storm]

The civilian one?

Walter + defender for the left, Ray + Ines for the right

[pale yoke]

this one

at the end he summons a lot

[valid storm]

oh, that one

Reedster

and Walter

[pale yoke]

kek

[valid storm]

and it can crash lower end devices

[pale yoke]

exactly

[valid storm]

just like OD-8 did

you need the other boss

[pale yoke]

im fine

just its common for teamate to dc here

and the desert one too

also flood

car go vrooom

pepe meta

surely she will get her "pozy" soon

[valid storm]

well, my emu tends to crash after a few runs, so

[pale yoke]

yea so i heard

emu when hosting room is extremely lag is that true for you too?

im just playing on phone

[valid storm]

no, I could host rooms but if I have been playing at least 2-3 stages before hosting and then there's a few stages that'll make Google Play Beta to crash

[pale yoke]

Hmm each to their own then

I have 13 clue 7️⃣ pending now

@uncut dome 🤡

I'll send you back whenever I get them

[uncut dome]

Helo fwen

I gave you a 3 today

[pale yoke]

thank you fwen

let me know if you need anything

[fluid pollen]

[orchid bane]

We have more 3s lately I think

[pale yoke]

Yea same

I have eight 3 and fifteen 7 now

[fervent geyser]

Hello everyone, I have been tormented for a long time. I have two trading posts and two gold factories. Teams on the trading posts are Shamare/Tequila/Bibeak and Proviso + two 40%. If I use drones on Proviso, then slowly I run out of gold and I start using drones on gold factories. But if I use drones on Shamare, then gold does not decrease and all the drones go only to the trading post. Maybe someone bothered and tried to figure out which option is more efficient in this situation?

[jaunty notch]

drone XP, you lower gold consumption while still working the drones' best value

alternative option: convert to 252

[leaden grove]

Hey gato, is optima tp sheet working for you?

[jaunty notch]

the normal tp values?

wow

[orchid bane]

I guess you are using 243, in this case drone on both Proviso and goldbar is better, but remember to put Tequila in that TP temporary

If possible you should stop drone on your TP when you can't reach the next order with the remaining drone and put those drone in goldbar

[leaden grove]

Yeah Google gave me ToS error

[vernal moss]

guys can someone explain how drones work, like how do you know how many drones to use and for which room/which resource

[orchid bane]

Just use drone to whatever you need really

[vernal moss]

and it doesnt matter how many you use?? just throw all of them at the thing you dont have enough of??

[leaden grove]

Once your base is built, drones are just free extra production, to use how you see fit

[orchid bane]

Just some advice here, for TP , you should always use it on lv1 or lv2 TP Proviso or lv3 TP with both Proviso and Tequila

For factory, you should check your base if you have more good Exp worker or Gold worker to decide what to drone

[wind otter]

arknights server went down for a while there, free ten pull incoming for sure

[orchid bane]

Have we ever doubted yostar's generosity?

[wind otter]

it's coming, don't blink or you'll miss the mail

[valid storm]

that's a weird way to spell 10

[thorny jackal]

Hello, how can I downgrade office and reception?

[leaden grove]

[thorny jackal]

So I can't downgrade both of them? meaning I'm stucked with 2/4/3? lame

[valid storm]

you can't

right side is fixed

but you can still run max left 252 which still produces more than 243

[thorny jackal]

so that mean I need to run 3 lvl 2 factory ?

[valid storm]

uhh... there's a pinned picture with the levels

if you have Provisio, you can have a level 2 trading post for her

[leaden grove]

Basically. Depends where your levels went. But yeah it’s fine, 252 still better

[thorny jackal]

I really thought I fucked it up hard but it turn out I still can run 2/5/2 maybe not great becuase level different but yeah I think i got it

Do you guys care about clue or not really?

[remote bison]

only today i realized big chungus caps to 5 stack on his first skill

sent both shu and yu into TR then nian to WS but i only net 70 WP instead of 75

[orchid bane]

Only today I realized I haven't equipped this skin , which could have changed something in base

Also the golden Justice Knight but I don't use him much

[thorny jackal]

PeterYR hand down provided best guide for base lol, god bless this guy

[wind otter]

not even that

[languid blaze]

lack of gold to stay 342 till 5m lmd surplus

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

promote ops

[orchid bane]

Got some un promote 6* and so many 5* ofc but I can't waste my san on chips now

[wind otter]

yes you can, in a day and some hours

[orchid bane]

1-7 or voucher now

Why are we having CA-5 in credit store but not AP-5

[wind otter]

"credit store"

[wind otter]

cn hasn't even added more tokens as far as I know

[pale yoke]

The proviso effect

we really need even better gold ops so we can just sustain tp with just 2 gold fac

or alternatively better, way better xp than we already have

[wind otter]

[valid storm]

no, we need Pepe partners, gold from thin air

[wind otter]

pepe combo tomorrow

[pale yoke]

"When operator in same tp with pepe, reduce the time by 1/2

[round lichen]

Just Proviso better

[orchid bane]

[pale yoke]

proviso for orundum when?

[orchid bane]

For orun maybe I would want a

Pepe or Tequila

-# ||Imagine Pepe partner make her change to orun||

[hidden barn]

Recommend me base layout for orundumb production

My original base set up is 252 12 slot

Need base layout to process rocks and easily switch back to 252 when out of rocks to process

[orchid bane]

Probably 342 for u

[valid storm]

basically any layout, you just switch half of your lmd / gold to orundumb

[orchid bane]

Burning some gold now

[languid blaze]

why lmd so high n ao so low

[orchid bane]

If I make like 400 ao daily

I will have to skip event store, skip farming voucher

Ppl who have that kind of results have been stacking rock for sure, and can't keep that for too long

Oh and I need LMD now, since 1-7 have all kind of factory product , lately I can fully go back to it

[languid blaze]

i mean to say "how so high and so low"

[pale yoke]

making ao comsume lmd

[wind otter]

amazing how a single skin just catapulted Valarqvin to the top of base meta, crazy

[fluid pollen]

Wot

[wind otter]

yes, totally unbiased take

[wind otter]

you people using proviso so wrong smh

[orchid bane]

I can literally see number 5 here, stop hiding you real LMD with your bad paint Edit

[jaunty notch]

honestly? Her e2 art sucks so bad i had to go back to e0

[wind otter]

holy shh, look at the big brain on red

[wind otter]

yeah, her E2 is kind of bland tbh. The skin is ❤️‍🔥 though

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

moments before disaster

[west tapir]

dorm pic credits to Wrisch
Live harold reaction:

[lavish bone]

Is this ok? Playing for 1.5 months

[leaden grove]

Quite good for newbie

You will want to keep an eye on your gold though, sustainability might be an issue with this setup. But looks like your exp is quite healthy so swapping factory to gold shouldn’t be bad for you

[pale yoke]

[lavish bone]

I usually have to spend the drones on pure gold production to be able to keep up with orders and struggle to keep up filling the factories all day and have to use a lot of +%10 +%15 operators, while TPs are almost always over %100

[leaden grove]

Check the base combo guide (pinned #4) and check noob tab for all the cheap/accessible combos and workers for your factories

[wind otter]

we need trust bonuses for base skills

[languid blaze]

cc or activity room give more trust?

[leaden grove]

Yes

[round lichen]

RIIC assistant gains trust based on the ambience of all your dorms (1 point of trust every 40 ambience, maxes out at 500 trust = 20,000 ambience)
Operators in a facility at daily reset work the same way (1 point of trust every 200 ambience, max 100)
Floor assistants gain trust based on the ambience of the dorm on their respective floor (1 trust every 40 ambience, max 125 = 5000 ambience)
Activity Room ops gain trust based on the room’s ambience (1 trust every 20 ambience, max 250)

[leaden grove]

I didn’t know activity and assistants were different

[primal wind]

Idont understand how rotation work.
When the third shift to fourth shift. Why My chen is red face

I dont know what wrong.

Is shamare and tequila. This will be red forever? No time to rest?

[wind otter]

Fiammetta skill keeps them working

and Tequila is cursed

added before the order is complete

[primal wind]

Just put fia in dorm right?

[primal wind]

I dont understand this

[round lichen]

Tequila’s skill is only activated when a new order is generated

[wind otter]

when Fiammetta has 24 morale you can swap her morale with someone you want, to allow the op to keep working, this is done in dorms, op to restore morale first and then FIammetta second

[round lichen]

So you can wait to swap him in until your order is almost complete, thus removing the need for him to waste time recovering morale

[primal wind]

Is this need e2 ?

[wind otter]

Fia works at E0

[primal wind]

Ok thank

[wind otter]

[primal wind]

So just use fia to refresh shamare and tequila morale?

How about Proviso? How to use her

[round lichen]

Use Fia to refresh Proviso, Shamare, and Tequila. This requires that you have some kind of base-wide morale saver in CC (e.g. Młynar, Chongyue, Wišadel) so your operators will be able to last 36 hours

[primal wind]

Can i DM?

[round lichen]

Sure ig

[leaden grove]

[wind otter]

DM Time!

[jaunty notch]

Chen rests during 2nd shift

[pale yoke]

fia gladiia is da wae

[pale yoke]

[wind otter]

@valid storm thank you for the clue 7

[wind otter]

preach on reverend

[valid storm]

[wind otter]

[wind otter]

Icebreaker games is going to become my yearly spring cleaning of inactive friends

[valid storm]

Icebreaker games is when I get to play with Aak

[wind otter]

let people play Wrys, c'mon

[wind otter]

we need a hero who can report the control center text bug, and I may be that hero ||by the end of the day, if I'm bored and feel like doing it||

[valid storm]

You can be the hero

[pale yoke]

Report the recruitment bug too while you're at it

[wind otter]

what is the bug? top op doesn't show up?

[wind otter]

[orchid bane]

Lately I have been recruiting on that "generous slot" again. Just got true Nuker, and true Summon in like 3 days. Sometime it feel better than Top Op

[wind otter]

yeah, sometimes the hypothetical slot seems to give you good tags for a while before it returns to normal. Sometimes it gives you another Top Op tag right away:

2024-11-19 - Top Op Tag (Slot 3) - 27th Time = Phantom Pot (Top Op + Fast-Redeploy)
2024-11-21 - Top Op Tag (Slot 3) - 28th Time = Ceobe Pot (Top Op + Crowd-Control)

[orchid bane]

Not recording like that tho

Lately I only have gold cert from recruiting , In the end of last month. I did not think that I could reach 258 that month. It likes 210 when I had 5 days left, and right now I have 79 certs

All good 5* from that same slot, and I am not spamming like hundreds of recruit ticket

[wind otter]

if the slot keeps yielding why mine elsewhere?

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

you can't abuse the slot or you will have to spark Exalter

[orchid bane]

Will listen to you

[wind otter]

[orchid bane]

Not using that slot till the banner end

[wind otter]

may be too late already

[orchid bane]

It not like banner right now, maybe in a month or two

[wind otter]

recruitment remembers

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

if you get Mon3tr early that's the sign your Exu pulls will go to the gutter

[wind otter]

wait, what is the point

[orchid bane]

Yes I will not pull mon3tr, and you better stop it right there

[wind otter]

[wind otter]

there are ways you can lift the curse though

[orchid bane]

Like ?

[wind otter]

you just need to go to furniture store and buy 5 sets of Penguin Logistics Safehouse with primes and your pulls shall be swiftly delivered

[orchid bane]

[wind otter]

[vernal moss]

guys i heard the recommended build for dorms is lv1 x 4

but why?? doesnt it cap the ambience at 1000

[leaden grove]

Yes, it doesn’t matter. Lvl 1 dorms recover moral quickly enough, leaving power for production facilities

[vernal moss]

so if ambience is capped what's the point of decorating them?? do ppl just do it for funsies

[leaden grove]

Of course

[vernal moss]

btw are you forced to build multiple activity rooms

i'm tryna build in a custom facility slot and it only lets me build an activity room...so much for "custom" lol

[orchid bane]

1% more PP power for only Our cute boy Greyy2 is absolutely undeniable necessary

[fluid pollen]

Payoff, none but Greyy2 deserves it

[pale yoke]

Yup, didn't get my daily top op today either

Max Lvl office too smh my head

[valid storm]

you haven't read the patchnotes? They removed TO again

[pale yoke]

so you telling me it's a feature not a bug?

time to riot

[valid storm]

Always has been

TO tag wasn't intended to be in the game

[pale yoke]

didnt expect this small indie company to be so greedy smh my head

[rigid plume]

[pale yoke]

[little saffron]

@valid storm I made another room, but I don't have space for it

Makes me wonder why I keep making new ones

[pale yoke]

Don't even use her anymore

Decent free skin tho

[little saffron]

[orchid bane]

[little saffron]

I got a Schwarz duplicate like... yesterday?

I was so upset that I didn't even save a screenshot

[pallid isle]

You don't use vermeil combo? Interesting

[jaunty notch]

in optimal rots she's out

[little saffron]

@orchid bane I hope I deserve to have a Muelsyse server tag

[orchid bane]

That is Vietnamese server , I could send you the link to get the name tag , but I am not sure you could have any interaction there

[little saffron]

I mean... the tag is enough for me

[pallid isle]

You mean like for cursed or in the future?

[orchid bane]

Vermeil best team just equal to 3 35%, and have to ramp up which could be annoying

And we have 4 35% EXP in CN right ?

[pallid isle]

Idt I ever figured out if cat technically outpaces it but it's almost equal after ramp

So yeah that kinda makes sense

[orchid bane]

More 35% just more flexible

[jaunty notch]

not exactly cursed but removed saileach to enable 2 shift pinus

but yeah aside from that verm's still in

[pallid isle]

Right exactly I can more easily swap to cursed on my specific days and times

My scheduling is very all over due to very inconsistent work times

[little saffron]

Wry doesn't like my new dorm

[little saffron]

So I need to look for what I can change in it

See you next time 🙏

[wind otter]

thank you for the miss information miss information

[wind otter]

new batch of mods people so be on your best behavior cuz new blood always be powertripping

[arctic prism]

[little saffron]

Literally right now

Silverash

-4 redeploy time

@valid storm I pray you like it this time

[wind otter]

they will accuse you of photoshop

[orchid bane]

Paint edit is bad no ?

[fluid pollen]

Yep

Bad

[wind otter]

[pale yoke]

Lol such a terrible Photoshop, you can see where they edited the image smh

[finite hill]

Does anyone here have the thing that shows you how to rotate your operators around the base?

[pale yoke]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14WzOA_cNpvG_PCHrtpxBgBpQWh4I1_TRgFPqk12W_lo/edit#gid=0

this?

if not check pin

there's few link related to base rotation dk what exactly you're talking about

[leaden grove]

Check peterYR video on rotations

[wind otter]

||pepe combo tomorrow||

[pale yoke]

cn getting new event tmr?

[wind otter]

pepe combo is cornerstone event that warrants own update patch

[wind otter]

today is Saturday, so we gamble for clue # 4 today

[pale yoke]

im already running low on gold bar and it's only middle of the month

[wind otter]

I was going to talk to you about that now that I remember

I remember your rotations

[valid storm]

helps

[wind otter]

[valid storm]

if you lack , then use the -> conversion

[wind otter]

[wind otter]

how much EXP did you make daily again? I forget. Was it 52? Did you change things up?

[pale yoke]

between 53 to 56

[wind otter]

woah, if I remember correctly you made some improvements

[pale yoke]

cant sustain tp tho

[wind otter]

hmm

[pale yoke]

while having the issue of making more lmd overall

[wind otter]

at the fear of running out of gold to make more lmd

[pale yoke]

the lmd to xp ratio is already bad enough

yea perpetual issue

[wind otter]

yes, I know, we are the rare breed that prioritizes EXP

[pale yoke]

need to make more gold just to keep TP running while at the same time can't make enough XP to burn those LMD

like

[wind otter]

so, I think I'm up to something but since your EXP numbers are so high I need to make some calculations because what I noticed may or may not apply with your high EXP numbers, mine are lower, give me some minutes

[pale yoke]

sometimes i just leave eben nothing in and dont even use proviso

just to burn less gold

[wind otter]

hmm

I usually send Eben to become a TP 0 to Shamare

[pale yoke]

i try to keep knight in as much as i can

[wind otter]

yeah, but what you mean is not using Prov to give gold a break

[pale yoke]

yea

also to keep fac ops last longer overall, albiet insignificant

just a cope factor

[wind otter]

Knight rests for 3 to 4 hours daily then back to work

[pale yoke]

i just saw video talking about the next 6 upcoming banner ooof all 6 are combat meta

you ready for them?

[wind otter]

what I do is I have the whole Gravel, Knight, Viviana, Flametail team rest at the same time but they don't all rest fully, I put the one with the lowest morale in Dorm 1 with all the dorm workers buffing that single op, so the op finishes faster than the rest (and the rest be like, "what about me, I still have 4 morale left to reach 24"; and I'm like, "shut the fuck up and go back to work"). The next day the op of that whole compilation that is now the one with the lowest morale goes to rest with Dorm 1 privileges. This work because in 24 hours it isn't like they will all arrive to morale 0. So the op that rested the day before is usually the one with the least urgency to recover morale, with the interesting case of Fartooth which always has that increased morale recovery in dorms that makes you send her to the worst dorms because she can take it

[wind otter]

man, I can't even guarantee Mon3tr, 70 pulls and a dream

[pale yoke]

yea for me it's like every one get ST regen except fartooth too

fartooth just regen faster than other so that's pretty good

and i fia gravel so it made it easier for me

who do you fia?

[wind otter]

that's a loaded question

[pale yoke]

hahaa gotcha

understood

i think i know how it is

probably same as mine

case by case basis

fia unit base on condition

[wind otter]

but the main target is Gladiia, then I Fia Dusk, Eben, Rosmo, Whisperain, after their last rest, just to keep them above water, so that I can always give Ling dorm 1 privileges. I am trying something new now, literally today, where I am trying to Fia Purestream and Waii Fu a little one day and not the Perception Info team I listed above and instead do them the next day. I added Chongyue so the morale reduction kind of makes all of this possible

[pale yoke]

i see so you mainly focus on suis for the flex

[wind otter]

for Rosmo

[pale yoke]

i fia around my gold team

yea rosmo is flex

i fia aroma gravel waifu > gladia > automation (when condition met)

[wind otter]

yeah, my condition met is days when Aroma is/has rested in dorms

I tried to Fia Aroma but can't do that with Gladiia keeping Fia so busy

if I could magically make Aroma get tired after Fia recovers from her Gladiia rest, maybe I could pull it off

[pale yoke]

gladiia best used when knight rest for me, otherwise i have to find slot for them
when knight working and gladiia full i have to pull thorn alter out to fit in all the seaborn

aroma does clash with gladiia often primarily because they dont work well with her

you cant just use seaborn to ramp up aroma

which i know you already know

[wind otter]

I usually get Bryo factory work at 1.22 productivity even without 2Thorn, with 2Thorn it would be 1.23 I am willing to take that hit for the sake of having the AH buffing EXP and the other gold FACs

[pale yoke]

sometimes when they clash and gladia is full i just put aroma to rest for a bit while running 2 seaborn + purestream

all the water creature

smh

yea that 0.01

just to run gladiia

is this what min maxing base is like?

[wind otter]

ram up Waii Fu?

[pale yoke]

ramp up aroma

[wind otter]

what do you mean? maybe I'm missing something

[pale yoke]

aroma team is Aroma + waiifu + (gravel/ros to ramp up until full, and replace with pure/seaborn)

you need someone to help aroma work her number up and you want waifu to restrain her from going into fatigue too quickly
so aroma just bound with waifu indefinitely

you want someone else to keep waifu number up to 40%

[wind otter]

I usually send Pure to Waii Fu if no Gladiia at the moment to send an AH. I wouldn't send Ros to a gold fac, my EXP centric brain considers that a blasphemy. But you are priotizing gold because gold has you on chokehold so makes sense

[pale yoke]

ye

but just starting aroma off with waifu + pure means you are losing out on some % while waiting for aroma to ramp up tho

waifu not being fully utilize there

[wind otter]

I send the Waii Fu to the Ros in an EXP fac, so Ulpianus who is usually with Ros goes to Aroma

[pale yoke]

yup make sense, i does that sometimes too

wait

[wind otter]

the trade off is that I need to rely on Silence2 + Dorothy while Aroma ramps up sometimes, but I'm still getting gold surplus

[pale yoke]

ulpianus after aroma ramp done, then yes

ohhh

yea i dont use them

which is why i fia* gravel

gravel jump between bryo and aroma

[wind otter]

I only use them when Aroma is still ramping up when no Gladiia in CC anymore, so it can be like once every 4 days

when I don't use Silence2 + Doro, I use Purestream + Doro which gives 70% which is at least 5% then the Rhine Lab duo

also help with MuMu which I made my main over Automation, but I am not sure if I will go back to Automation I need to make some calculations and I have been so lazy to do any of those things

speaking of which, I haven't done any of the calculations I said I would do with your numbers because I'm chatting here lol

[pale yoke]

Mumu hard to fit in if many ops need to rest or doing mastery

Just impossible

[wind otter]

it's possible

[pale yoke]

For me

[wind otter]

but the micromanagement is insane