#r-i-i-c

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tender ravine
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I think you just use your best orundum skill in 1 fac. Use one tp to trade. Farming rock. That's all.

If you run out of any resources, just stop orundum farming. Mine do the farming only 12 hours in the daytime because orundum in fac cap very fast while I'm asleep.

hardy bronze
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I wanna be efficiently inefficient 🚬

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Well thats straightforward

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how does 1xp 2gold 1AO sound for factories

tender ravine
hardy bronze
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oh bet

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ill just do that then, thanks

cinder tree
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how do I adapt it to level up training room? downrank factories?

languid blaze
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yes if you plan on mastery skill

languid blaze
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15 less for 200 e2

split plover
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should i be droning the proviso training room or my tequila shamare bibeak room

desert quail
pale yoke
round lichen
clever quarry
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How much more efficient is Proviso + Vigil vs Proviso + Quartz (all e2 aside from Quartz, who is e1; LV2 TP)

stoic spoke
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put the best individual % with proviso

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vigil is 40% at RR lv3, lower if not.

clever quarry
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minmaxxing so hard for that 10% uuooooggghhh

jaunty notch
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also if you want to see how much you get from cursing or just from % not listed in the doc, the formula's there for copy paste

sturdy abyss
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theacc is a good base nerd clearly SoraWow
pre theacc vs post theacc

steady holly
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what's the platonic ideal 2-5-2 again? my base is offmeta because i have a t3 workshop and training room

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but i want to give good advice to a new player

round lichen
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Workshop doesn’t use any power, and training room should be raised just because you need masteries

arctic prism
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What does lv 2 rr do again?

wicked canopy
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More friend slots and second support unit slot

fluid pollen
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So nothing in current context basically. Deadge

pale yoke
orchid bane
stoic spoke
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delaying productivity gain Stonksnt

wind orbit
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how long usually ppl run dead lancet on PP?
isn't using dead operator on pp will make drone recovery slower?

fluid pollen
# wind orbit how long usually ppl run dead lancet on PP? isn't using dead operator on pp will...

2 PP setups will typically run dead lancet when 2 conditions are met.
(Running Weedy)

  1. Whilst Eunectes is in CC, and you have E2 Greyy in PP. If you only have Eun, you should run alive Lancet.
  2. You collect base every 8-9 hrs or so when you have Pure Weedy + Eun CC + Greyy in PP running in a level 2 gold factory to prevent overcapping. If not, drop Eun and run a normal pp worker.

Yes, drone recovery is slower but the idea is that the increase in gold production is worth it.

pale yoke
wind otter
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||true base update smells of summer DocSmile ||

pale yoke
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Pc client too

wind otter
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with PC client we should have packs cost go down, but then Yostar will be like nah ah, that's my cut AmiyaCry

scarlet coral
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Do Proviso and Tequila have to be in TP for the entirety of a trade for their effects or just the start and end of it?

wind otter
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just right before the order is acquired DocSmile welcome to curse

scarlet coral
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Not gonna minmax that just wanted to know because I fucked up my fia rotation

pale yoke
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Knowing is a step towards doing DocSmile

scarlet coral
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I haven't even swapped to 252 yet

orchid bane
fluid pollen
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Who murdered?

orchid bane
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oracle

pale yoke
near stratus
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I'm down to only 1 million LMD, gonna bankrupt RI at this rate

opal dock
uncut dome
vital oriole
obtuse wyvern
opaque oriole
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chat can someone explain "exodia comp" since i dont really understand why people say it has 6-7 hour rotations

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thank you in advance

wicked canopy
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in the base combo guide check the "special" tab, it's the gigantic rosmontis team

round lichen
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Exodia is the Perception Info/Worldly Plight team, and they can work for 32 hours

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The only teams that last 7 hours are Abyssal Hunters and Enforcer

opaque oriole
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thank you chatters

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i keep hearing like 7 hour rotations and shit and the spreadsheet said 32 hours

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so i was really confused

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i guess hastag help lying to me joe_mad

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one more question is it just better to run it on 243 or can it still work on 252

round lichen
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252 loses 6-8% Fac productivity and 3-4% TP productivity from reducing dorms, but the gain from the extra factory makes that moot

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And that’s assuming you already have Iris and Czerny E2ed; if you aren’t using them then you lose nothing by switching to 252

opaque oriole
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i see thank you chat

wind otter
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||real men use mumu player||

jaunty notch
wind otter
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wtf RedOmegaLul

jaunty notch
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it's over, she's aiming for our base

wind otter
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I'm sure everything will be fine and nothing will happen to base SpecterPray

opal dock
pale yoke
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💀

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biggest downgrade in base history

opal dock
pale yoke
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shouldn't implement the downgrade to begin with ChenMad

uncut dome
vital oriole
# opal dock is it? lemme check

Not when unqueued. When you click the button to gain trust for the day, you'll get it for all, even if they've been un-staffed. Much easier to notice the gain with those with low trust

pale yoke
uncut dome
pale yoke
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ChenMad dont justify this

uncut dome
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It's fine

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It only covers Bryo face

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You can still see drunk Penance

pale yoke
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only if they could manage to find any space elsewhere

uncut dome
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All that matters

fluid pollen
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That’s Bryo?

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!?

pale yoke
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ikr!?

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couldn't tell with that blocking the view

wind otter
pallid isle
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me wondering why lancet is half way full on morale

wind otter
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damn

wind otter
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kind of prevents misclicks but I rather that button not be there anyway

uncut dome
wind otter
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Beautiful... now that Annihilation stages will last longer before getting replaced we may be getting a little bit more orundum rewards per year, but we are still getting the same amount of Purchase Certificates and mats. So a bit more orundum for less vouchers and mats.

pale yoke
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you in the wrong channel

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if base meta wise only ines shamare mlynar matter here

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logos for mastery

midnight bone
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Sent wrong image, Is this good

worn plover
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I am broke and don't have enough lmd

winged hollow
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you can switch everyone out put them in dorm except lancet to prevent the disaster

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but again it's annoying

vast laurel
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so i just checked the guide and apparently this is bad? SOBishima

wicked canopy
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ideally you'll want to downgrade your dorms to level 1, downgrade a trading post to level 2 (this will be your proviso trading post), then demolish a power plant and build a 5th factory

vast laurel
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idr why it got like this but I'm pretty sure i was just clicking yes to everything

wicked canopy
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the game really wants you to build this type of base (a 243) but it's not the most efficient base layout

vast laurel
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ooh

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so that's why

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anw tysm! I'll start with that and work my way through quantHeart

slim yarrow
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I have some excess rocks as a result of the dead week, so might aswell switch up and convert them to orundum. Can anyone point out the orundum guide with what operators to use?

jaunty notch
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pin link 8

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also you should have at least 1k rocks

slim yarrow
jaunty notch
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yeah the rate of consuming them are quite fast

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but you can always make the shards in advance

slim yarrow
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You're right, I should stock up on shards and then blitz the trading post to minimize losses. I'll read the guide first, tho.

wind otter
worn plover
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How to downgrade office

jaunty notch
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Work at hg

rose knoll
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Reroll account

pale yoke
slim yarrow
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I'm just curious how fast can you train ops with Yu? Can we get this to 100%?

orchid seal
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if i add proviso like 5 seconds before i get a gold order, will her skill still take affect? what if i add her to the tp after i alrd received the order and then trade the gold?

jaunty notch
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Yes then no

knotty flax
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can fiametta keep poz/tuye/kirara alive indefinitely?

round lichen
slim yarrow
round lichen
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Well there’s an inherent 5% boost from having any operator

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So if Yu were able to add 100% then it would take 11.7 hours to finish a Lv 3 mastery

slim yarrow
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tyvm, so he's a good general use for cases where you don't have the "logos" operator in that branch, but gotta enable that 80 WP first.

uncut dome
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Max rn is 95% and no he's not a Logos/Irene replacement for the other classes cuz they will still be better for those classes

round lichen
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Wait u right

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If people are willing to do 13-11 and micromanage Sui morale

uncut dome
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Yea but it's not realistic

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So 80% is still the better answer

uncut dome
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It's purely setting up Ling/Dusk for that matter which is not worth it

fluid pollen
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Indeed.

opal dock
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how many lmd/day is considered good?

pale yoke
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70k is very good if you're droning proviso

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55k if you're not

valid storm
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what if I get 50k when running Provisio?

languid blaze
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Probably in Good territory
what if 60k not drone proviso?

valid storm
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2 days ago I had 35k, thought forgot to collect twice

opal dock
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maybe i should e2 proviso asap

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(i drone gold lmao)

knotty flax
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(ignore hoes-derer. that's a slot that i put whatever 30/35 in)

arctic prism
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realistically fia can only keep up with 3 ops assuming 12 hr rotations; even that one requires help from cc through mlynar or chungus to add leeway to the rotations

leaden grove
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Even if you’re moral-maxing, you won’t get better than 48 hrs from proviso in lvl 2 TP so you have to be frameperfect lol

arctic prism
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if you really want to keep all 4 of them active at all times you could try curse proviso at the cost of your own sanity
proviso's skill triggers on order creation so she doesnt actually need to be in the TP so you can let her rest in a dorm while the order is being worked on instead of using fia lol

gilded smelt
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Hello, I am a player of CN server. I would like to ask what version of the international server is now, carnival or something else. And will you use some Android simulators and automation tools to clean up your daily tasks?

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These contents are translated by machine, which may be unclear. I hope they can be understood.

grim talon
grim talon
valid storm
jaunty notch
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We do use several android simulators though. We call them emulators

vital oriole
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we use the ultimate automation tool, the half awake brain

orchid bane
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For some reason, this number always scares the hail outa me

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|| like Zyf always does||

round lichen
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Forty million, nine hundred and three thousand, one hundred and forty one. Terrifying

orchid bane
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wait wat ?

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I mean the 135

stuck crow
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damn, poors are everywhere

orchid bane
paper ingot
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is having cantabile and british stabby boi named puzzle is a optimal clue squad?

vital oriole
valid storm
orchid bane
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just

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-# a little

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-# just a litle

gilded smelt
orchid bane
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Yes

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next time when you see a post like this

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be sure to warn them

uncut dome
orchid bane
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Hi zyphie

jaunty notch
pale yoke
fluid pollen
pale yoke
uncut dome
valid storm
round lichen
stoic spoke
arctic prism
gilded smelt
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jaunty notch
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No

wind otter
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Got two Support tags in Recruitment in a row in the same slot and decided to keep mining and lo and behold there it was, a Top Op tag. We must be unto something here. DrudgeThink

obtuse wyvern
pale yoke
orchid bane
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@valid storm Normally in Rerun event I don't do quests that only give event currency but but let's say I'm short on Kohl should I do all the quest or just do it the old way that I just keep farming t3 map

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-# Just ping the wrong wrys PenanceBlush

wind latch
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I need helping base , i tried to understand the google sheet but i couldn’t

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I’m getting 24k lmd in 24 hours

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I’m lost i tried many times but i cant understand

orchid bane
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24k for a new player is not so bad

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Don't let your OP morale run out or your facilities cap the next time you login

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Try to find 20 - 30% Op for each slot you have, and don't put exp Op in Gold fac

wind latch
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Can i go by skill ? Does it work correctly?

orchid bane
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Don't use Jaye

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Like that

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Are you 243 or 252 ?

wind latch
orchid bane
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Well then Proviso should be in lv 2

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TP

wind latch
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I have both lvl 3

orchid bane
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How is your 252 ?

wind latch
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3 for exp
2 for gold
2 for lmd

orchid bane
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Yes you still have 1 lv2 fac there

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Downgrade your tp to lv 2 and upgrade it

wind latch
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Ok

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As u said dont use jaye
Can i send all my op and tell me what to put ?

orchid bane
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Just highest % with Proviso

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Maybe Quartz

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I don't remember her skill

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Or just 30%

wind latch
orchid bane
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Yeah should be 34%

wind latch
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Ok ✅

orchid bane
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And put all your drone in That Proviso TP

wind latch
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I do that but now i dont have gold

orchid bane
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Um just use like 3 gold fac ?

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Should be ok

wind latch
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I will try

orchid bane
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But you said you want LMD right ?

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Make 3 fac gold and drone as many as you can on Proviso lv2 TP

wind latch
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Yeah my biggest issue in game for days is LMD

orchid bane
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Not exp for now right ?

wind latch
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Exp is okay for me

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I still have many

orchid bane
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Yea, for now just do that ,later if you are short on XP then you could change back

wind latch
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👍

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I tried to upload the google sheet to chatgpt and asked him to give me best op for each building based on what op i have

orchid bane
wind latch
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But i feels he is doing wrong

somber jacinth
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Looks good? Just need to upgrade 2 factories to 3 or 3-2-2 + dorm?

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Also precious metals will be made in the 2 level 3 factories right?

valid storm
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Yes

wind orbit
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55-65k lmd without sui exodia is normal right

dense dagger
rare garden
dense dagger
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Im just very lazy and inconsistent so that's why my stats are all over the place

plain gust
dense dagger
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Theacc slightly adjusted it

plain gust
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Am pretty bad at base rotas but give me a sec

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Wouldn't it be better to do 3 shifts ? so that you can use your good combos for a bit longer ?
Also do you have jess2 ? you're using 25% workers here and there

dense dagger
plain gust
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also JK isn't worth most of the time, don't you have better pp workers ?

dense dagger
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That's the best thing Theacc can change

dense dagger
plain gust
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Sure, it's still not better than a 20% worker, even with pinus

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I'm running pinus without JK, it's not a big boost compared to more drone recovery

dense dagger
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I certainly have better PP Workers ya

plain gust
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It's 5% for fac, whereas drone rec is %tp, i'd rather use a 20% worker if you have one

plain gust
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Especially since you're using pinus for gold imo

fluid pollen
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The value for JK/20% is exactly the same, but using 20% just gives you more flexibility in what you can choose to drone.

dense dagger
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Changing it then

plain gust
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I've read here somewhere that 2% PP is 1%tp, so was it right ?

dense dagger
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Liksarm isn't E2 so she's just 15%

fluid pollen
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It’s for facs and tp but yes exactly 2:1.

plain gust
# dense dagger Its set for 12 hour shifting and no

I don't know what would be the consensus from actual base nerds, but i'd still maybe try to set 3 12hs shifts, you're losing some efficiency with shamteq and pinus for example
just my humble opinion tho

dense dagger
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Hmmm

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I think I'll keep my current one because doing that is a hassle

plain gust
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I try to make them last the full 24 hours if i can, i have 2 hours leeway most of the time

wind latch
round lichen
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When I googled “how much aspd for Gnosis permafreeze” the AI summary said “nearly infinite attack speed is needed” like… it only goes from 20 to 600

round lichen
plain gust
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what did i do ExuHyperStare

round lichen
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There are so many better teams for gold

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Every Pinus requires E2 and they only give 25%

plain gust
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I'm not responsible for his base setup, let me call my lawyer first JessNotLikeThis

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I was just telling him to use another better PP worker over JK

round lichen
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If you’re fine E2ing tons of units to have better gold prod, raise Bryophyta, Dorothy, and Mizuki

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The whole reason Pinus is a meta team is because of Flametail making them all give 35% when working exp

plain gust
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Shouldn't you ping astrel rather than me ?
I explicitely said i'm not that great at base shenanigans and my base has vivi in cc and pinus in exp fac

dull python
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how much do the new trust rooms cost

round lichen
dense dagger
round lichen
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No because you sent 15 screenshots instead of a single sheet

vivid sleet
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This roughly reflects what I get, yeah

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oh wait I put asky twice (instead of delphine)

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there we go

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Not sure how I can improve this further, but I guess I can tinker with mlynar a bit

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I know I've asked you about it before Gato I'm just confused lol

jaunty notch
vivid sleet
# vivid sleet

like, the 40 hour shift isn't possible w/ mlynar because I have to cut either knights or delphine which is suboptimal

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So I'm pretty sure that the only way to make these numbers better would be to go with the Rosmontis / Sui squads

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or to downgrade to 2/5/2 or something like that

jaunty notch
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Well pretty much

vivid sleet
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Aroma is also suboptimal because

  1. She's a bitch to manage
  2. She's useless
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I was willing to raise Fartooth, but not Aroma
(same issue with Figurino)

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Guess I'll just stick with this

jaunty notch
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Eh she’s good when you know how to use her

vivid sleet
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There's also Silence Alter for Dorothy I guess

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I can see what you've been saying about the base meta being stale

tender ravine
# vivid sleet

How many hours for each rotation?

When you want to see the average result, pls show the last table(balance gold).

vivid sleet
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I lose some drone value in the process because I have to put my power plant workers in dorm ahead of time, but that's not a huge loss

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Obviously I use Fiammetta to keep my Trading Posts up and running

wind otter
novel grove
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Lads. With the existence of infinite loxic kohl.

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Does that change the best rock farming stage??

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or 1-7 still the most efficient, sanity wise?

wind otter
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What is the Loxic and Orirock connection?

novel grove
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Event orirock like zt-4 gives event currency.

wind otter
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That's 15 sanity per rock. Did I get double when I redid that stage though? Against 6 san per rock for 1-7 and sometimes double rock

fluid pollen
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Am positive that everyone will be swimming in loxic that it doesn’t count in terms of sanity anymore anw.

wind otter
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Loxic is getting to Kernel mat territory

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maybe lower rarity tier operator territory too

fluid pollen
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Unusable territory. think

wind otter
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rocc coming to event shop any day now like loxic and manga ||no chance in hell it does||

fluid pollen
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Manga coming to shop?

novel grove
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At least for now I need both asap. Need to craft 25 poly and 12 bipolar nanoflakes

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Mango coming to shop on exu

wind otter
wind otter
novel grove
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Uhh.. but the rerun shop is small. Already cleared it since the event dropped.
Thats why Im wondering if "double sanity" rock is worthy in exchange for several loxic

fluid pollen
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Basically he meant that you should farm device or smth to exchange for loxic and then go back to 1-7 for rocks.

novel grove
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Oh.. Alright.

wind otter
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dude, you need like 620 orirock cubes HellaHands

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that is like 16 days of 1-7

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39 days of ZT-4? DrudgeThink

novel grove
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Ikr GoldenglowSad

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I don't know why old ops love t5 poly and nanoflakes so much.

wind otter
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600 of event currency

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I bet you need more loxic for lower tier mats too though
there is intelligence cert mats too

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White Horse, etc.

novel grove
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Uhh.. sorry to bother you again.
How many Originite you guys normally spend on the event farm?

fluid pollen
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Spend what you need, as long you don’t encroach on your pulling funds.

uncut dome
orchid bane
wind orbit
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we don't normally spend Originite just for farming

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better use it for pulls or even buying skin than that

rancid oasis
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Sure their could be exceptions like you last minute event clears you could spend some but if you care that much for an event you wouldn’t be in a position where you have to farm or clear last minute
Also considering your pfp you want to save as much as possible as necrass is fairly close

random whale
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Why is proviso better in lvl 2 trade building than lvl 3?

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What is the math

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Is it like just superstition?

wind otter
wind otter
# random whale Is it like just superstition?

No superstition. Proviso takes crappy orders and make them better by trading more gold. Lower level trading posts guarantee crappy orders. Crappy orders take less time to complete so they complete faster = more orders per day.

random whale
wind otter
desert oar
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This is my two already made dorms, 3 is kind of a mud room atm

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idk if this is the right channel for dorm showcase

jaunty notch
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It is

desert oar
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Nice

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I'll post what my 3rd dorm looks like in a bit

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Here's my 3rd dorm, sort of a "toss everything until we get a full theme done" lol

inner ocean
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it's getting nearer and nearer

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and i still don't know if I should roll for Thornstar

languid blaze
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if you don't need him, roll
if you need him, don't roll
Pull 1st regret later

round lichen
inner ocean
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i should've clarified

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rolling purely for base

orchid bane
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I do need him for base

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But still skip

inner ocean
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that really is the situation these days

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I'm trying to cut back on topping up

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and most of my pulls are now just purely for limiteds or gameplays

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and hope Thornstar spooks in my future banner pulls

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I am enjoying this lack of base meta improvements cause of it. Allows me to save more pulls.

orchid bane
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Only 6% improve

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And it is not like my base management is perfect, sometime OP still dead or cap

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Oh just dead, no cap

inner ocean
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i double checked

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yeah only 6% improve

uncut dome
valid storm
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Why can't HG put the good furniture into the shop, instead of the event rewards? How am I supposed to break the dorms this way?

orchid bane
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Wrys GoldenglowSad

valid storm
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A different blue KalDisgust

orchid bane
valid storm
orchid bane
valid storm
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so, what you should do if you are really low on loxic_kohl is farm ZT-9 and after buying out the shop, spend all of your Die_Klange_von_den_Erinnerungen on the infinite loxic_kohl

pale yoke
orchid bane
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But like Should I redo the quest

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Like the Zt 1 and zt3 quest, or the EX quest

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Normally I don't do them

valid storm
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the EX and S quests aren't worth it, except for the EX-8 CM

orchid bane
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But now they give currency which I can buy Kohl

valid storm
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True, lemme check how much they give compared to a single ZT-9 run

inner ocean
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i still don't recommend it

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every event from here on

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will have unlimited kohl

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there's really no reason to overfarm it by this point

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since the infinite LMD is barely worth it (outside of turning anything below 25 currency into something useful after grind)

orchid bane
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But I barely overfarm event, I just clear the store and back to 1-7, so there might be time in the future that I will short on Kohl again

pale yoke
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its worth it

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BPCozy but

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if you dont want more kohl

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then dont do it

valid storm
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Yea, it's worth it, but if you lack other mats, I'd farm them isntead of redoing these stages

orchid bane
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Nice

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Good to know

pale yoke
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LappCry kohl will definitely stack

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how about future event? are they changing the mats or just kohl all the time?

valid storm
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so far it's just loxic_kohl

pale yoke
orchid bane
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There will be Ore added in the future

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And those will both in the store forever I think

icy rover
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How should i set up my tp rotations considering i have a lv 3 tp and a lv 2 tp? In my lv 3 i have kafka - shamare - tequila as my main team, and in my lv 2 i have proviso - quartz as main team. My subs are just jaye and some 30% efficiency ops. Please help i suck at base stuff 😭

pale yoke
uncut dome
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Do not resist

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Click it

round lichen
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Other than that it sounds like you pretty much have the best setup possible. If you have Fiammetta you can use her to get 100% uptime on Shamare Tequila Proviso; if you have the MonHun team and available slots in CC for Kirin Yato & Rath NC then Palicoes become 41% in TP

wind otter
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man, those device drop rates are absolute buttcheek

fluid pollen
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Regular device farm behaviour.

oblique snow
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who should i use?

wind otter
oblique snow
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Have a 243 with proviso shamare fiammetta tp setup, factory is just the 30% xp/gold ops

round lichen
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  1. switch to 252
  2. how many facs do you want on XP and how many on gold?
dry cosmos
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https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/kamo
Given the operators I have, how do I set up my rotations? I use the 252 layout. For a very long time I ignored base optimisations because I didn't want to bother with it. With the recent base update I figured it would be easier to manage rotations and stuff, so I decided to finally optimise base production. Any help would be much appreciated. I know a few key operators like Proviso and Tequila are not E2, but I'm already working on them. I am more concerned about making decent rotation plan.

KaMo#2219 - EN - Level 120 - 2020-02-28

pale yoke
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ooof

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kinda unfortunate you cant do most of the best team you're missing pieces here and there

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you account lack base combo synergy so frankly just go for highest raw % imo

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you can start with raising scene for ceobe vermil scene XP combo

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tho that is not the best available in terms of meta but you can make do

dry cosmos
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Out of curiousity, what would be a better option?

pale yoke
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pallas verm scene is the optimal in terms of that synergy but even they aren't BiS anymore
but most casual player still uses them

dry cosmos
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Any improvement is still probably much better than whatever random rubbish I threw in there xD

pale yoke
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but BiS no
if speaking of real best, you lack ulpianus for AH synergy
can't do full sui team either
cant do flametail team either

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those are the best available right now

dry cosmos
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Big yikes, I still cry I didn't pull Ulpianus

pale yoke
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you can use eunectes team tho

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AKA dead lancet team

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dead lancet in powerplant (0morale)
eun in CC weedy in fac and Greyy alter in anotherpp

dry cosmos
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Alright, promoting Eunectes won't be a problem

pale yoke
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oh you didnt raise tequila either

dry cosmos
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He will be promoted very soon as well, I need him for the Shamare team

pale yoke
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tequila + shamare +tailoring skill

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ye ye ok you know

dry cosmos
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I can swap with a PL team or a Jaye team when needed

pale yoke
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PL?

dry cosmos
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Penguin logistics

pale yoke
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oh ok

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btw heidi snowsant exu is better than full PL team

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but you dont have to raise them if you dont already have them

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just saying full PL is far from optimal given any option

dry cosmos
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I do have them and I will raise them because I need more benjamins

pale yoke
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those are just raw % increase, on that note vigil is 40 or you can also just use morgan and siege for 75

dry cosmos
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Okay, that's still a good improvement. Reading the base guide, I noticed Fiametta is good. I could have picked her up from the gold certificate shop, I think she was available not long ago.

pale yoke
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ye fiametta is to reset best ops asap

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so they can just keep working 24/7

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in your case just maybe use it on shamare team when you have them built

dry cosmos
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Yep, I had the same idea. I would do that if I had her. Maybe she will spook me at some point, I missed my chance with gold certificates.

pale yoke
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just go through pin4 for better overview

ornate tiger
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Hello, started playing at end of Lappland/Vulpis banner, so i'm new.
I have 3 TP, 4 Factory and 2 Power plants.
The biggest struggle i have in this game is money, LMD.
Is there another setup (without going too in depth because i have no clue what i'm doing) to make a bit more profit ? I'm doing +- 40/50K a day. Dont know if thats good or bad
Thanks !

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My Factories are just spamming the ingots, and TP are just set on lmd

valid storm
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40/50k a day is normal for new players, I suggest that you check out the 4th link in the baseguides pin, the one about teams and try to utilise the combos there

scarlet coral
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Sounds about right if you aren't droning LMD

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Though 3TP should have higher LMD

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I'm around 50k with 243

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Didn't notice started on most recent new event nm

round lichen
# scarlet coral I'm around 50k with 243

It is in fact very easy to switch to 252 or 342

https://youtu.be/sBw1UW03crs?si=lfmW2q75HK8EHem6

#arknights #arknightstipsandtricks #arknightsguide #basebuilding #243 #252
Step by step guide to convert from 243 to 252 - the most productive base setup.
Video from random599 on Discord (no signs of life)
Honorable mention to @Николай_Россия1 for speeding and muting the video just so I can change my mind about it (sorry).

▶ Play video
scarlet coral
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Thanks you're the first person ever to recommend me that video

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(my laziness still knows no bounds)

pale yoke
orchid seal
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how worth it is quartz for base from red cert if i alrd have proviso+lapp+texas+like 5 diff 30% trade post boosting ops? does the 4% rlly make that much of a diff?

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and for experienced players how much lmd/exp per day is normal?

languid blaze
valid storm
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You sure about that 100k?

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I gain around 60k a day

languid blaze
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if proviso on high tho that both exp/lmd

scarlet coral
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is that full drone lmd too

kind urchin
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buy diamante for base?
also will mitm e0 work same as substitute for shamare

wind orbit
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it called shamare team because it needs shamare

languid blaze
abstract jacinth
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is there a requirement on downgrading base rooms? i want to downgrade my hr from 2 to but cant

jaunty notch
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You can’t

abstract jacinth
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nice button then! ah well im screwed then. just because i wanted to recruit click quicker, yay

round lichen
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Just be sure you don’t raise it to Lv 3, that will waste a lot of power

abstract jacinth
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yeha i hope at the end of the beta they will allow us to fix mistakes like this?

pale yoke
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nah they just going to focus on endfield and eos us

kind urchin
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the third worker of tp other than teq/shamare

long parcel
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how do i get more carbon bricks guys? im trying to follow this optimal base guide. sorry if explained and i dont see.

jaunty notch
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credit shop, SK maps, dailies

valid storm
long parcel
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what should i be buying normally from the credit shop? like courier is for sale and i use him, is it worth to spend 120 credits for a copy of them??

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or is credit shop best used for base building mats?

jaunty notch
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the most valuable items are usually lmd and recruit perms

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but generally, you try and get all the discounted items first

round lichen
pale yoke
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LappCry I'm actually running low on gold, might've drone tp a bit too much

jaunty notch
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Smh when thorns

pale yoke
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saving grace

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spot will be out the window with the addition of thorn

hushed plinth
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I just started my base, like, beginner started it, I have changed nothing to it since the little intro tutorial for bases, what should I work on first?

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Nvm, I see the guide ^^

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Ohhh, so i should do 351, then 252 after I reach 4-7?

sturdy abyss
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@trail roost are you proud of me!

trail roost
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oh 4 gold 1 exp

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still better than mine i think

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i have 3 gold and i only make 55k

sturdy abyss
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my workers are worse than yours though...

sturdy abyss
pallid oasis
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lies

trail roost
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only some outside assistance required RedOmegaLul

trail roost
trail roost
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is there a reason why CC/RR/PP/TR whatever don’t have a countdown for morale?

jaunty notch
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but cc, rr and pp will have timers in a month or so

pale yoke
languid blaze
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when we get skip whole stage in single run?

jaunty notch
slate flume
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Okay, I'm planning to downgrade my TP to max Proviso buff, but Idk if there's anyway to make Proviso stay longer....

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Is there any combos to prolong Proviso stay that I miss?

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I've checked the Excel and I don't see anything for it

jaunty notch
trail roost
trail roost
jaunty notch
trail roost
slate flume
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Who should I E2 for RIIC best buff?

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For 4 stars?

wicked canopy
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4* get their base skill upgrades at e1, so there's no need to e2 them for base

slate flume
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Well... I have E2 4 stars voucher lying around, kinda want to use it...

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Unless if there's a more worthy of the voucher in the next few banners?

wicked canopy
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windscoot will be here in a couple months

slate flume
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Would it worth to E2 for base?

wicked canopy
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4* don't get base upgrades at e2

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you would only ever e2 a 4* for combat

slate flume
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Alright... Any good ones to E2? Except Myrtle

wicked canopy
slate flume
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Ah... Thanks

steel temple
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if i dont have vermeil i use beanstalk/click, noir and cuora?

valid storm
steel temple
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ahh i see

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so if not i js use another set? also if i have vermeil that means noir corne and cuora is the best?

wicked canopy
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they're not the best vermeil partners but they're good when you're starting out

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if no vermeil just use another team

pallid oasis
wicked canopy
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that's not unique to caper and it's not worth e2ing ops for reception room lol

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more a matter of trivia than helpful advice

keen harbor
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should I e2 shamare? I have bibeak E2 but not tequila and shamare rn

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I already have proviso working in lvl 2 tp

languid blaze
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do it, shamare is dope

keen harbor
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even if my tequila is e0?

jaunty notch
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Yeah

remote bison
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what time interval / morale count do you inject fia into pr*viso shamare tequila on same day

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might need to adjust the shift in cause fia doesnt seem to replenish in time to do all three

languid blaze
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lvl2 tp proviso need mr from cc so she can have few moral before swap, give fia less than 12h to full rest. 1 shift mylnar/W. theresa/Chongyue probably fix that. more mr less restricted time you swap

jaunty notch
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just curse 1 order whenever you log in and you'll be fine

craggy bough
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should i have proviso in a lvl 3 tp or lvl2?

wind otter
pale yoke
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oh nyo

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june 5 is like so next month

wind otter
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are we even going to make it that far? smh

pale yoke
wind otter
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I mean, lightning strikes the ground somewhere everyday

pale yoke
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I'm in danger

pale yoke
wind otter
pale yoke
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once we get the chip update that will go poof

wind otter
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right, I forgot

pale yoke
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so many E1 max pending right now

wind otter
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you are holding off

pale yoke
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yee

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at the meantime im just doing some old ops mastery lol

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i went back to do year 1 ops mastery

wind otter
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you haven't promoted since when, Marcille?

pale yoke
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yea marcille

pale yoke
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me going back to do liskarm mastery just to feel how slow it is for defender

wind otter
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no irene for defenders moment

orchid bane
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Got reset again

uncut dome
pale yoke
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🫵 RedOmegaLul

orchid bane
fluid pollen
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How does it even happen?

valid storm
orchid bane
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So I am not even sure

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Maybe I put Waaifu- aroma in the 1st place for some stupid reason

pale yoke
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you dont need to convince me further that the preset function is terrible RedOmegaLul

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we are in agreement

orchid bane
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Yea I don't think I made that kind of mistake. More like preset bug BlemiCry

fluid pollen
winged hollow
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I think preset look like put them out then follow the instruction to put them in

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So basically aroma fucked if you do the preset

fluid pollen
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It’s supposed to keep the ramp.

orchid bane
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But Idk, maybe sometime or that was just my mistake

uncut dome
orchid bane
wind otter
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That issue reminds me of a bug I encountered like 3 or 4 times with Irene "ramp up". I would finish masteries with her and even though she had been the whole 5 hours and even trained for m2 with the halved time applied, she would reset for the 3rd mastery. I am not sure why that happened.

I am suspicious of something though. I bet you've noticed that sometimes when you are working dorms, etc. you will see operators that have full morale greyed out, as if they had not finished resting, even if they have full morale bar at 24, exiting base, etc. can fix this. When we used to have the remove operator button, you could play with that a bit, by hitting that button multiple times full morale operators would alternate between grey and normal with multiple clicks. So my suspicion is that when you are working in dorms, etc. it may be the case that operators' placements do a random reset that makes them register as if they were once again placed in their slot for the first time. But I don't know for sure.

jaunty notch
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happens when your internet is bad or you reopen your phone with the game on

round lichen
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I was going to say it sounds like when you desync in a multiplayer game, but I wasn’t sure how that would be possible in a single player game like Arknights. But server desync would make sense

wind otter
# jaunty notch that's just server sync

I wonder if that can mess with op ramp up. I don't think it could always be my internet being slow because what usually happens when my internet is bad is that I get the rhombus loading for several seconds and I can't do anything, but the ops' pictures being bright or greyed out happens immediately without any loading issues.

I wonder if the game sometimes can fail to send the information properly, like things happen in base but no loading checkpoint is triggered. When I've witnessed something like that the game usually logs you off, but it lets you do a lot of stuff in the game before that.

fluid pollen
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Packet loss? think

wind otter
orchid seal
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i havw heard tale of some sigma grindset chad who wrote an entire research paper for barknights… could i mayhaps get a link to it DocSmile DocSmile DocSmile DocSmile DocSmile

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also how does proviso and other similar wffects work? does she need to be in the tp while an already-done order is collected? or does she need to be in tp while order is finished? or the entire time of order? or what lol

wind otter
wind otter
arctic prism
arctic prism
wind otter
# oblique snow Have a 243 with proviso shamare fiammetta tp setup, factory is just the 30% xp/...

You have a lot of good stuff to work with. You have base Abyssal Hunter team ready (only Gladiia E2 needed). You have Automation ready for 252 setup (Eunectes, Weedy, Purestream, Greyy2, Lancet).

You have the op needed for other combos but they will need promotions and only you can decide whether you are willing to give them the resources just for base.

Refer to the link I sent you, check the tabs starting from the Special tab and then to the more specific tabs by facility.

orchid seal
orchid seal
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time to tryhard proviso swap ins

wind otter
orchid seal
arctic prism
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the way I normally do it is swap in proviso/teq a little earlier than completion and drone the last bit of the order

orchid seal
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why?

fluid pollen
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More leeway.

orchid seal
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for?

fluid pollen
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Prov swap, compared to putting your timer 10secs before an order created, you could do 1-3mins.

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And then drone to prevent missing.

orchid seal
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missing what

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????

wind otter
# orchid seal why?

mental sanity, in a small window of ten seconds a lot of things can happen that can prevent you from successfully swapping to Proviso, but if you are a daredevil too I won't even start trying to stop you

arctic prism
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basically if proviso isnt in the tp at the exact moment the order is generated, she wont apply her effect on the next order
this causes the next 1~2 hrs to be unboosted by proviso

orchid seal
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ok thanks

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do all these effects work upon order generation?

arctic prism
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yea p much

orchid seal
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tequila etc

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ty

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what abt the research paper btw? sorry to bug a lot lol

arctic prism
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i mean you can try typing it in from the vid screenshot lol

wind otter
fluid pollen
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Talented.

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RosHi Cho.

arctic prism
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i just leave the tp open on the side while im working and check up on it when i get distracted lol

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if I have enough drones to get to the next order I just drone to the next order

wind otter
fluid pollen
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I can’t trust myself to look at AK periodically or trust my timers at work so I could never.

arctic prism
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lol i miss it more often than id like so lowkey i should set up timers too

fluid pollen
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This hunter guy’s just different.

wind otter
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phone timers work too, but I can only use the above when I chill at home

fluid pollen
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Working from day to night tending to Proviso, AK base is your job fr.

arctic prism
wind otter
arctic prism
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source^

fluid pollen
arctic prism
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yup

fluid pollen
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Truly a 4fun document of all time. RedOmegaLul

arctic prism
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lmao yea

round lichen
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All for in-game funny money. Your ass is NOT getting real compensation for all that extra work

pale yoke
orchid bane
fluid pollen
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Opportunity cost ruined.

jaunty notch
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My ego is real

orchid seal
wind otter
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I could tell you but I am not sure this would be for your own good

wind otter
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wait a minute

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I completely skipped the activity room line wtf

arctic prism
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Can we get a dorm ban feature next lol

wind otter
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We'll we finally get HH history in this update though? SpecterPray

jaunty notch
# wind otter

pretty sure they lined up some of the bullet points based on my observation

wind otter
jaunty notch
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also CN pv

wind otter
fluid pollen
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Oh nice.

wind otter
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ZT-8 = theft ChenMad

cedar steeple
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You think any of the new ops will have a good base skill? copium

valid storm
wind otter
pale yoke
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DocSmile hek yeah just in time to get thorn built for base

wind otter
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you finally going to promote something HellaKek

pale yoke
jaunty notch
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except i'm not joking

pale yoke
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lets see how much the lmd tank

valid storm
wind otter
jaunty notch
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supporter m1/2 skill

wind otter
pale yoke
wind otter
pale yoke
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no lmao

fluid pollen
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Well doesn’t use chips.

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So.

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Not counted.

pale yoke
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yea doesn't use chip catalyst

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4 star

jaunty notch
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this keeps getting worse and worse

valid storm
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olny 5* and 6* uses chip_pack which needs chip_catalyst and packs skip those

jaunty notch
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i am overloaded on guard chips

pale yoke
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DocSmile soon

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very soon

jaunty notch
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this is how it's gonna be huh

wind otter
# pale yoke

you can buy packs that give some of those 4* promos but nice try HellaKek

jaunty notch
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wow look at this fucking whale

pale yoke
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slow cooking

jaunty notch
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i regret not keeping 1 event token for keepsake

wind otter
pale yoke
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im f2p so i cant relate to whale

wind otter
pale yoke
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jesus why the hell they buy mats coupon

wind otter
jaunty notch
pale yoke
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bruh 13k retro

jaunty notch
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yeah literally the poorest ak account i know

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how do you even go that low

valid storm
wind otter
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looks like luck account to me

valid storm
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clearly a whale

wind otter
fluid pollen
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It’s just an acc from a very lucky individual.

valid storm
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they have more Orundum and I'm whaling

wind otter
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🐳

pale yoke
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hear me out, they should change the unlimited mats to rocc instead of kohl

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so everyone is happy

fluid pollen
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Kohl is so useless.

uncut dome
pale yoke
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just like a different shade of blue

fluid pollen
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They’ll never put rocks inside.

fluid pollen
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Even sugar is way more useful ye.

valid storm
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is it?

jaunty notch
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not t4 sugar

uncut dome
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Change it to the new mat to troll everyoneBlitzSmile

jaunty notch
fluid pollen
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Just change it to the pink thingy.

wind otter
fluid pollen
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Would be so helpful.

pale yoke
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change it to solvent

valid storm
pale yoke
fluid pollen
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Ah ye that.

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Def great.

pale yoke
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we will never finish that

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insaaane

fluid pollen
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Infinite value no?

wind otter
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I ran out of those some weeks ago, had to farm

fluid pollen
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?

pale yoke
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wut

wind otter
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the solvent, the solvent

fluid pollen
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But how.

pale yoke
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makes me wonder how

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like what mastery you build

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lmao

wind otter
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maybe we aren't doing the same masteries

pale yoke
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or maybe you didnt farm them during their event?

wind otter
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I'm free to play, remember?

pale yoke
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im sitting on 300 and it barely goes down

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same same

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i identify as f2p too

fluid pollen
pale yoke
uncut dome
fluid pollen
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I remember the Zyf guy once said f2p’s don’t have rights.

pale yoke
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and people wonder why zyf is so hated smh

fluid pollen
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But he’s right.

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It’s his only good take.

valid storm
pale yoke
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regardless he shouldn't say it (even if it's true)

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it's 1984

jaunty notch
wind otter
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I've only paid in arknights once and it was just because the starter furniture pack was too good to pass on

fluid pollen
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Crazy.

pale yoke
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appealing to the mods

fluid pollen
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also I made it up.

pale yoke
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hunter trying to one up us

jaunty notch
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yeah i don't even buy anything

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i just traded base skill ideas with haimao for free 6* every 10 pull

valid storm
jaunty notch
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that's also true

pale yoke
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im so F2P in fact i try to ask HG to pay me to play their game

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im so F2P the amount i spent is in the negative and hg owe me money

fluid pollen
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Wow.

valid storm
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unless you're scamming HG

pale yoke
fluid pollen
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Is this the US.

valid storm
pale yoke
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no, just me

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not us

pale yoke
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sadge

fluid pollen
uncut dome
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I know this is just for the bit but this just straight up makes me look bad without context

pale yoke
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that's the best part

wind otter
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is zyf starting to hate himself too?

fluid pollen
uncut dome
uncut dome
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My no.1 hater isn't noods but myselfHazeSmug

fluid pollen
uncut dome
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Can't let myself be beaten by someone else

valid storm
fluid pollen
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Gonna have a hard time ignoring himself.

fluid pollen
uncut dome
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Why rush

valid storm
fluid pollen
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Hmm well 11 hrs to do mastery otherwise we’ll have to use Shu in fac to keep Aroma alive?

orchid bane
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Zyf still so scary

uncut dome
valid storm
orchid bane
thorn granite
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Alr i'm here asking for guides
Currently my base is 234, priotizing lmd and stuff
Now that all of my 6 stars are built with no pull plans for the next 6 months i think i should go for ori shards
Is there any comprehensive, minmax ori shard base farm videos or guides that i can use?

valid storm
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and you have 2 powerplants?

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or 3?

plain gust
keen harbor
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with a lil bit of optimization

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manage to reach 60k

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if I E2 shamare and use shamare team I might even be able to reach 70k

wise shale
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How do ypu look at that screen to see what you produce?

keen harbor
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one of the button on the right side

jaunty notch
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CC > assistant

wise shale
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awesome thank you!

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oh nno

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mine is really bad, 25k lmd a day xd

wise shale
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and if so, is it really that much better?

plain gust
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It is a 252 setup
252 is considered to be best afaik yes

arctic prism
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oh for cc kal is working all 3 shifts? but I assume you had a replacement in mind

mint bloom
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What should i do to fix this base?

unique mauve
wise shale
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do you have 2 gold facs or 3?

digital tendon
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I like having 3 gold facs

wise shale
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do you run out of gold with a 252

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2 gold fact?

digital tendon
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If you have the meta tp ops ye

leaden grove
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If you drone TP then definitely

wise shale
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for sure, thannk you guys

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first time im actually caring about base production xd

digital tendon
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👍

remote bison
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maybe i should take a dead day, replenishing everyone

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then deadass move onto 12

wise shale
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how many swaps do i need?

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is just a assigned and formation good enough?

mint bloom
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Do you guys use 2 lvl 3 gold and 1 lvl 3 exp?

remote bison
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until.. probably tomorrow

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you should do 12

leaden grove
wise shale
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do you guys leave certain ops in dorms all the time? having trouble understanding what to do for this one

remote bison
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no

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the dorm skill only helps you with fixing rotation issue due to more than intended depleted morale

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but you can replenish everyone in extremely short time without those

mint bloom
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Is 35k lmd and 23k exp decent?

remote bison
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low as shit tbh

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especially LMD

mint bloom
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I just swaped to 252

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So i dont have new report

remote bison
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you want to look at

mint bloom
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I guess i need to work on my combos

remote bison
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probably 30000 exp

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and +45000 LMD

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this can be achieved with lowend slaves (the e1 4* and such)

mint bloom
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Im working on shamere

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Im close to e2

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But i still need to get tequila and diamente

remote bison
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do you somehow got blue certificates

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600 red cert for diamante is sort of lolF_stinky

mint bloom
remote bison
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hold on lemme check

mint bloom
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Nvm i got 110

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Forgot to exchange

remote bison
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yean nvm still

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i didnt think they are that expensive

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do you have

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kafka or paprika

mint bloom
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No 😦

remote bison
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huh then if youre commited to use this team then ig you can get diamante

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e0 is nuff

digital tendon
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Be lucky and roll kafka

mint bloom
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I can stick with e0 jay with lappy and texas

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Or with SA

mint bloom
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Already did some roll on naratuya banner

wise shale
mint bloom
wise shale
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cert pull horn rn?

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so many cooler characters coming later in the year

mint bloom
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Saving certs for mudrock

mint bloom
wise shale
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nice

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love typhoon

wind otter
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I will pull for yu because I need yu

mint bloom
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Which 3 op factory combos do you guys use?

wind otter
# mint bloom Which 3 op factory combos do you guys use?

Pinus Team (Ashlock, Wild Mane, Fartooth)
Bryophita + Gravel + Thorns Alter
Aroma + Waii Fu + Romontis (Perception Info team)
2x Abyssal Hunters + best gold / EXP operator
Vermeil + Pallas + Scene
Weedy + Purestream + Passenger (if you aren't running 252)

Some of these teams need a member in CC though

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for more combos, etc., consult the Holy Spreadsheet, Special and FAC tabs:

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This is 252 country so we mostly use 2 ops for our lvl 2 FACs though DocSmile

wind otter
jaunty notch
vast laurel
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this okay for LMD / exp production rate? currently rank 69 with only a couple of 6* and 5*, and less than 10 E2 units. I have checked out the pinned guides here but i honestly don't have a lot of the recommended ops

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i at least know I have Jaye(E0)/Lapp(E2)/Texas(E1) going for me, as well as Varmeil/Click, but I'm not sure about the rest...

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I thought the increase from my previous 15-20k ish LMD to a now 35-50k LMD is big, but I think I read somewhere that that it's still far from ideal(?)

arctic prism
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looks good for how far you are in the game

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the ideal is talking about if you have every single op in the game ( or at least all of the base meta related ones), most requiring e2

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also for the crazier numbers it's also going to require either some base report forgery (e.g. by saving up orders from previous day and claiming them next day), or extreme micro management (e.g. putting proviso and tequila in tps only right before an order is completed and immediately taking them out for higher % workers after)

vast laurel
wind otter
vast laurel
wind otter
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yep

vast laurel
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.-.

vast laurel
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hecc yeah, sorry cutscenes HellaKek

wind otter
vital oriole
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is Tecno a durin?

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wait, when did they limit Pozy? could have sworn she was uncapped

vital oriole
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huh, guess I'm wrong, its been there since release

jaunty notch
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pretty sure it's just because at that time there were 4 durins