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I wanna be efficiently inefficient 🚬
Well thats straightforward
how does 1xp 2gold 1AO sound for factories
I'm also doing something like that.
how do I adapt it to level up training room? downrank factories?
yes if you plan on mastery skill
15 less for 200 e2
should i be droning the proviso training room or my tequila shamare bibeak room
Droning proviso should be more efficient unless you’re really starved for gold bars
more m3 than e2
If you have Proviso: downrank 1 TP and 1 factory
If not: downrank 2 factories
How much more efficient is Proviso + Vigil vs Proviso + Quartz (all e2 aside from Quartz, who is e1; LV2 TP)
put the best individual % with proviso
vigil is 40% at RR lv3, lower if not.
minmaxxing so hard for that 10% uuooooggghhh
also if you want to see how much you get from cursing or just from % not listed in the doc, the formula's there for copy paste
theacc is a good base nerd clearly 
pre theacc vs post theacc
what's the platonic ideal 2-5-2 again? my base is offmeta because i have a t3 workshop and training room
but i want to give good advice to a new player
The ideal right side is 2313
Workshop doesn’t use any power, and training room should be raised just because you need masteries
What does lv 2 rr do again?
More friend slots and second support unit slot
So nothing in current context basically. 


how long usually ppl run dead lancet on PP?
isn't using dead operator on pp will make drone recovery slower?
2 PP setups will typically run dead lancet when 2 conditions are met.
(Running Weedy)
- Whilst Eunectes is in CC, and you have E2 Greyy in PP. If you only have Eun, you should run alive Lancet.
- You collect base every 8-9 hrs or so when you have Pure Weedy + Eun CC + Greyy in PP running in a level 2 gold factory to prevent overcapping. If not, drop Eun and run a normal pp worker.
Yes, drone recovery is slower but the idea is that the increase in gold production is worth it.
||true base update smells of summer
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with PC client we should have packs cost go down, but then Yostar will be like nah ah, that's my cut 
Do Proviso and Tequila have to be in TP for the entirety of a trade for their effects or just the start and end of it?
just right before the order is acquired
welcome to curse
Not gonna minmax that just wanted to know because I fucked up my fia rotation
Knowing is a step towards doing 
I haven't even swapped to 252 yet
Who murdered?
emphasis on yet 
I'm down to only 1 million LMD, gonna bankrupt RI at this rate


You still get the trust actually, lol

chat can someone explain "exodia comp" since i dont really understand why people say it has 6-7 hour rotations
thank you in advance
in the base combo guide check the "special" tab, it's the gigantic rosmontis team
Exodia is the Perception Info/Worldly Plight team, and they can work for 32 hours
The only teams that last 7 hours are Abyssal Hunters and Enforcer
thank you chatters
i keep hearing like 7 hour rotations and shit and the spreadsheet said 32 hours
so i was really confused
i guess hastag help lying to me 
one more question is it just better to run it on 243 or can it still work on 252
252 loses 6-8% Fac productivity and 3-4% TP productivity from reducing dorms, but the gain from the extra factory makes that moot
And that’s assuming you already have Iris and Czerny E2ed; if you aren’t using them then you lose nothing by switching to 252
i see thank you chat
||real men use mumu player||
OH MY GOD CHAPTER 16 LEAKS
wtf 
it's over, she's aiming for our base
I'm sure everything will be fine and nothing will happen to base 
is it?
lemme check
me when trying to click dorm4 but instead hit the Rest Ops button because it's IN THE FREAKING WAY and it kicked every dorm mom ops out of the room
💀
biggest downgrade in base history
hg should've implemented lock ops right in Siegealter event fr
shouldn't implement the downgrade to begin with 
Sounds like skill issue to me
Not when unqueued. When you click the button to gain trust for the day, you'll get it for all, even if they've been un-staffed. Much easier to notice the gain with those with low trust
the button is huge and literally in the way

dont justify this
only if they could manage to find any space elsewhere
All that matters
i think that's how I accidentally got lancet into dorms that one time
damn
||same same...||
fortunately I've developed an habit of always doing this before clicking on the last dorm
kind of prevents misclicks but I rather that button not be there anyway

Beautiful... now that Annihilation stages will last longer before getting replaced we may be getting a little bit more orundum rewards per year, but we are still getting the same amount of Purchase Certificates and mats. So a bit more orundum for less vouchers and mats.
you in the wrong channel
if base meta wise only ines shamare mlynar matter here
logos for mastery
Sent wrong image, Is this good
I am broke and don't have enough lmd
you can switch everyone out put them in dorm except lancet to prevent the disaster
but again it's annoying
ideally you'll want to downgrade your dorms to level 1, downgrade a trading post to level 2 (this will be your proviso trading post), then demolish a power plant and build a 5th factory
idr why it got like this but I'm pretty sure i was just clicking yes to everything
the game really wants you to build this type of base (a 243) but it's not the most efficient base layout
I have some excess rocks as a result of the dead week, so might aswell switch up and convert them to orundum. Can anyone point out the orundum guide with what operators to use?
oh no, I only got 400, so I guess I'll wait a little longer before switching. ty!
yeah the rate of consuming them are quite fast
but you can always make the shards in advance
You're right, I should stock up on shards and then blitz the trading post to minimize losses. I'll read the guide first, tho.
unlimited rocc and devices definitely coming to event stores eventually, for sure, absolutely, we'll swim on them 
How to downgrade office
Work at hg
Reroll account

I'm just curious how fast can you train ops with Yu? Can we get this to 100%?
if i add proviso like 5 seconds before i get a gold order, will her skill still take affect? what if i add her to the tp after i alrd received the order and then trade the gold?
Yes then no
can fiametta keep poz/tuye/kirara alive indefinitely?
Current max is 80%, but if HG ever adds someone who can give us another 20 WP then it can go to 100%
Just to clarify 100% is half the wait time?
Well there’s an inherent 5% boost from having any operator
So if Yu were able to add 100% then it would take 11.7 hours to finish a Lv 3 mastery
tyvm, so he's a good general use for cases where you don't have the "logos" operator in that branch, but gotta enable that 80 WP first.

Max rn is 95% and no he's not a Logos/Irene replacement for the other classes cuz they will still be better for those classes
Even 13-11 can't cuz Dusk would rest
It's purely setting up Ling/Dusk for that matter which is not worth it
Indeed.
how many lmd/day is considered good?
what if I get 50k when running Provisio?
Probably in Good territory
what if 60k not drone proviso?
2 days ago I had 35k, thought forgot to collect twice
can fia keep this combo AND proviso alive indefinitely?
(ignore hoes-derer. that's a slot that i put whatever 30/35 in)
realistically fia can only keep up with 3 ops assuming 12 hr rotations; even that one requires help from cc through mlynar or chungus to add leeway to the rotations
Even if you’re moral-maxing, you won’t get better than 48 hrs from proviso in lvl 2 TP so you have to be frameperfect lol
if you really want to keep all 4 of them active at all times you could try curse proviso at the cost of your own sanity
proviso's skill triggers on order creation so she doesnt actually need to be in the TP so you can let her rest in a dorm while the order is being worked on instead of using fia lol
Hello, I am a player of CN server. I would like to ask what version of the international server is now, carnival or something else. And will you use some Android simulators and automation tools to clean up your daily tasks?
These contents are translated by machine, which may be unclear. I hope they can be understood.
If you are asking what the current event is ongoing in global version:
For the second part. Its against rules to use any automation tools like auto-clicker
We don't use any automations, as those are forbidden by the game ToS, and thus discussing them in the server
We do use several android simulators though. We call them emulators
we use the ultimate automation tool, the half awake brain
For some reason, this number always scares the hail outa me
|| like Zyf always does||
Forty million, nine hundred and three thousand, one hundred and forty one. Terrifying
damn, poors are everywhere

lmd can go higher than 6 digits? blasphemy
Am I scaring you?
Thank you! So is the automatic clicker banned from discussion in the community or officially?

From the company itself. There are multiple news warnings for that. In short, just don’t talk about it here








Ok, I see. Thank you for your reply.
♥
No
Got two Support tags in Recruitment in a row in the same slot and decided to keep mining and lo and behold there it was, a Top Op tag. We must be unto something here. 

me without expe tic cant do anything atm
@valid storm Normally in Rerun event I don't do quests that only give event currency but but let's say I'm short on Kohl should I do all the quest or just do it the old way that I just keep farming t3 map
-# Just ping the wrong wrys 
I need helping base , i tried to understand the google sheet but i couldn’t
I’m getting 24k lmd in 24 hours
I’m lost i tried many times but i cant understand
24k for a new player is not so bad
Don't let your OP morale run out or your facilities cap the next time you login
Try to find 20 - 30% Op for each slot you have, and don't put exp Op in Gold fac
I feel i can get more but idk what op to put with other
Can i go by skill ? Does it work correctly?
252
How is your 252 ?
3 for exp
2 for gold
2 for lmd
Yeah should be 34%
Ok ✅
And put all your drone in That Proviso TP
I do that but now i dont have gold
I will try
But you said you want LMD right ?
Make 3 fac gold and drone as many as you can on Proviso lv2 TP
Yeah my biggest issue in game for days is LMD
Not exp for now right ?
Yea, for now just do that ,later if you are short on XP then you could change back
👍
I tried to upload the google sheet to chatgpt and asked him to give me best op for each building based on what op i have

But i feels he is doing wrong
Looks good? Just need to upgrade 2 factories to 3 or 3-2-2 + dorm?
Also precious metals will be made in the 2 level 3 factories right?
Yes
55-65k lmd without sui exodia is normal right
Noted.
Im just very lazy and inconsistent so that's why my stats are all over the place
Yes, because we already told you chatgpt won't work
I feel like the first time you tried it was clear it was incapable of doing so 🥀
Mayu what do you think of my Base
Theacc slightly adjusted it
Am pretty bad at base rotas but give me a sec
Wouldn't it be better to do 3 shifts ? so that you can use your good combos for a bit longer ?
Also do you have jess2 ? you're using 25% workers here and there
Its set for 12 hour shifting and no
also JK isn't worth most of the time, don't you have better pp workers ?
That's the best thing Theacc can change
Did you not see the Pinus Sylvaris Team?
Sure, it's still not better than a 20% worker, even with pinus
I'm running pinus without JK, it's not a big boost compared to more drone recovery
Are you sure since people either suggested a better pp worker or JK
I certainly have better PP Workers ya
It's 5% for fac, whereas drone rec is %tp, i'd rather use a 20% worker if you have one
I have Liksarm and Ifrit ya
Especially since you're using pinus for gold imo
The value for JK/20% is exactly the same, but using 20% just gives you more flexibility in what you can choose to drone.
Changing it then
I've read here somewhere that 2% PP is 1%tp, so was it right ?
Wait no I'm keeping JK
Liksarm isn't E2 so she's just 15%
It’s for facs and tp but yes exactly 2:1.
I don't know what would be the consensus from actual base nerds, but i'd still maybe try to set 3 12hs shifts, you're losing some efficiency with shamteq and pinus for example
just my humble opinion tho
I try to make them last the full 24 hours if i can, i have 2 hours leeway most of the time
I sometimes do that ya
Yeah , i did it now manually and i hope it works well.
AI is garbage dude, don’t let the machine think for you
When I googled “how much aspd for Gnosis permafreeze” the AI summary said “nearly infinite attack speed is needed” like… it only goes from 20 to 600
Whyyyyyy
what did i do 
There are so many better teams for gold
Every Pinus requires E2 and they only give 25%
I'm not responsible for his base setup, let me call my lawyer first 
I was just telling him to use another better PP worker over JK
If you’re fine E2ing tons of units to have better gold prod, raise Bryophyta, Dorothy, and Mizuki
The whole reason Pinus is a meta team is because of Flametail making them all give 35% when working exp
Shouldn't you ping astrel rather than me ?
I explicitely said i'm not that great at base shenanigans and my base has vivi in cc and pinus in exp fac
how much do the new trust rooms cost
Ummm did you even look at my Base Setup
No because you sent 15 screenshots instead of a single sheet
hmmm
This roughly reflects what I get, yeah
oh wait I put asky twice (instead of delphine)
there we go
Not sure how I can improve this further, but I guess I can tinker with mlynar a bit
I know I've asked you about it before Gato I'm just confused lol
Flametail -10 each when making gold

like, the 40 hour shift isn't possible w/ mlynar because I have to cut either knights or delphine which is suboptimal
So I'm pretty sure that the only way to make these numbers better would be to go with the Rosmontis / Sui squads
or to downgrade to 2/5/2 or something like that
Well pretty much
Aroma is also suboptimal because
- She's a bitch to manage
- She's useless
I was willing to raise Fartooth, but not Aroma
(same issue with Figurino)
Guess I'll just stick with this
Eh she’s good when you know how to use her
There's also Silence Alter for Dorothy I guess
I can see what you've been saying about the base meta being stale
Stagger your teams/ops
How many hours for each rotation?
When you want to see the average result, pls show the last table(balance gold).
I usually just let my main squad work the full 36 hours and then cycle in the replacements for ~8 while they recover
I lose some drone value in the process because I have to put my power plant workers in dorm ahead of time, but that's not a huge loss
Obviously I use Fiammetta to keep my Trading Posts up and running
gotta always save some dude
Lads. With the existence of infinite loxic kohl.
Does that change the best rock farming stage??
or 1-7 still the most efficient, sanity wise?
What is the Loxic and Orirock connection?
Event orirock like zt-4 gives event currency.
That's 15 sanity per rock. Did I get double when I redid that stage though? Against 6 san per rock for 1-7 and sometimes double rock
Am positive that everyone will be swimming in loxic that it doesn’t count in terms of sanity anymore anw.
Loxic is getting to Kernel mat territory
maybe lower rarity tier operator territory too
Unusable territory. 

rocc coming to event shop any day now like loxic and manga ||no chance in hell it does||
Manga coming to shop?
At least for now I need both asap. Need to craft 25 poly and 12 bipolar nanoflakes
Mango coming to shop on exu
the play should be to farm the higher tier mats you need and to buy loxic with the currency you get
if you really need cubes, 1-7 will get them faster at lower san cost. I would farm 1-7 for the cubes I need and then focus on higher tier mats and use the currency on loxic
Uhh.. but the rerun shop is small. Already cleared it since the event dropped.
Thats why Im wondering if "double sanity" rock is worthy in exchange for several loxic
Basically he meant that you should farm device or smth to exchange for loxic and then go back to 1-7 for rocks.
Oh.. Alright.
You need 24 Loxic for 12 Bipolar, that is 600 sanity.
600 of event currency
I bet you need more loxic for lower tier mats too though
there is intelligence cert mats too
White Horse, etc.
Uhh.. sorry to bother you again.
How many
you guys normally spend on the event farm?
Spend what you need, as long you don’t encroach on your pulling funds.


Spend on event farm ?
0 ?
we don't normally spend
just for farming
better use it for pulls or even buying skin than that
Yeah you shouldn’t really spend originum on anything other than skins and pulls especially with this event being really easy to max the shop on
Sure their could be exceptions like you last minute event clears you could spend some but if you care that much for an event you wouldn’t be in a position where you have to farm or clear last minute
Also considering your pfp you want to save as much as possible as necrass is fairly close
Why is proviso better in lvl 2 trade building than lvl 3?
What is the math
Is it like just superstition?

No superstition. Proviso takes crappy orders and make them better by trading more gold. Lower level trading posts guarantee crappy orders. Crappy orders take less time to complete so they complete faster = more orders per day.
So if I placed proviso alongside chilchuck or some other operator that buffs acquisition speed that means it will generate at least something like 4-5 gold bar orders per acquisition?
In a lvl 2, yes. She is best paired with your highest % single TP worker.
This is my two already made dorms, 3 is kind of a mud room atm
idk if this is the right channel for dorm showcase
It is
Nice
I'll post what my 3rd dorm looks like in a bit
Here's my 3rd dorm, sort of a "toss everything until we get a full theme done" lol
it's getting nearer and nearer
and i still don't know if I should roll for Thornstar
if you don't need him, roll
if you need him, don't roll
Pull 1st regret later
Skip him, Alchemist skills are designed to be spammed, making them require micromanagement for best results
that really is the situation these days
I'm trying to cut back on topping up
and most of my pulls are now just purely for limiteds or gameplays
and hope Thornstar spooks in my future banner pulls
I am enjoying this lack of base meta improvements cause of it. Allows me to save more pulls.
Only 6% improve
And it is not like my base management is perfect, sometime OP still dead or cap
Oh just dead, no cap

Why can't HG put the good furniture into the shop, instead of the event rewards? How am I supposed to break the dorms this way?
Wrys 
A different blue 
@valid storm I asked you this but I guess cause I edited my massage so you did not get the ping

yea, if you edit, Discord won't tell me about the ping

so, what you should do if you are really low on
is farm ZT-9 and after buying out the shop, spend all of your
on the infinite 

But like Should I redo the quest
Like the Zt 1 and zt3 quest, or the EX quest
Normally I don't do them
the EX and S quests aren't worth it, except for the EX-8 CM
True, lemme check how much they give compared to a single ZT-9 run
i still don't recommend it
every event from here on
will have unlimited kohl
there's really no reason to overfarm it by this point
since the infinite LMD is barely worth it (outside of turning anything below 25 currency into something useful after grind)
But I barely overfarm event, I just clear the store and back to 1-7, so there might be time in the future that I will short on Kohl again

Yea, it's worth it, but if you lack other mats, I'd farm them isntead of redoing these stages
kohl will definitely stack
how about future event? are they changing the mats or just kohl all the time?
so far it's just 

There will be Ore added in the future
And those will both in the store forever I think
How should i set up my tp rotations considering i have a lv 3 tp and a lv 2 tp? In my lv 3 i have kafka - shamare - tequila as my main team, and in my lv 2 i have proviso - quartz as main team. My subs are just jaye and some 30% efficiency ops. Please help i suck at base stuff 😭

If you have a Lv 3 RR, Vigil gives 40% so he could be better than Quartz
Other than that it sounds like you pretty much have the best setup possible. If you have Fiammetta you can use her to get 100% uptime on Shamare Tequila Proviso; if you have the MonHun team and available slots in CC for Kirin Yato & Rath NC then Palicoes become 41% in TP
man, those device drop rates are absolute buttcheek
Regular device farm behaviour.
f regular drops tbh 
who aren't you using?
Have a 243 with proviso shamare fiammetta tp setup, factory is just the 30% xp/gold ops
- switch to 252
- how many facs do you want on XP and how many on gold?
https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/kamo
Given the operators I have, how do I set up my rotations? I use the 252 layout. For a very long time I ignored base optimisations because I didn't want to bother with it. With the recent base update I figured it would be easier to manage rotations and stuff, so I decided to finally optimise base production. Any help would be much appreciated. I know a few key operators like Proviso and Tequila are not E2, but I'm already working on them. I am more concerned about making decent rotation plan.
ooof
kinda unfortunate you cant do most of the best team you're missing pieces here and there
you account lack base combo synergy so frankly just go for highest raw % imo
you can start with raising scene for ceobe vermil scene XP combo
tho that is not the best available in terms of meta but you can make do
Out of curiousity, what would be a better option?
pallas verm scene is the optimal in terms of that synergy but even they aren't BiS anymore
but most casual player still uses them
Any improvement is still probably much better than whatever random rubbish I threw in there xD
but BiS no
if speaking of real best, you lack ulpianus for AH synergy
can't do full sui team either
cant do flametail team either
those are the best available right now
Big yikes, I still cry I didn't pull Ulpianus
you can use eunectes team tho
AKA dead lancet team
dead lancet in powerplant (0morale)
eun in CC weedy in fac and Greyy alter in anotherpp
Alright, promoting Eunectes won't be a problem
oh you didnt raise tequila either
He will be promoted very soon as well, I need him for the Shamare team
I can swap with a PL team or a Jaye team when needed
PL?
Penguin logistics
oh ok
btw heidi snowsant exu is better than full PL team
but you dont have to raise them if you dont already have them
just saying full PL is far from optimal given any option
I do have them and I will raise them because I need more benjamins
those are just raw % increase, on that note vigil is 40 or you can also just use morgan and siege for 75
Okay, that's still a good improvement. Reading the base guide, I noticed Fiametta is good. I could have picked her up from the gold certificate shop, I think she was available not long ago.
ye fiametta is to reset best ops asap
so they can just keep working 24/7
in your case just maybe use it on shamare team when you have them built
Yep, I had the same idea. I would do that if I had her. Maybe she will spook me at some point, I missed my chance with gold certificates.
build Bryophyta too
just go through pin4 for better overview
Hello, started playing at end of Lappland/Vulpis banner, so i'm new.
I have 3 TP, 4 Factory and 2 Power plants.
The biggest struggle i have in this game is money, LMD.
Is there another setup (without going too in depth because i have no clue what i'm doing) to make a bit more profit ? I'm doing +- 40/50K a day. Dont know if thats good or bad
Thanks !
My Factories are just spamming the ingots, and TP are just set on lmd
40/50k a day is normal for new players, I suggest that you check out the 4th link in the baseguides pin, the one about teams and try to utilise the combos there
Sounds about right if you aren't droning LMD
Though 3TP should have higher LMD
I'm around 50k with 243
Didn't notice started on most recent new event nm
It is in fact very easy to switch to 252 or 342
#arknights #arknightstipsandtricks #arknightsguide #basebuilding #243 #252
Step by step guide to convert from 243 to 252 - the most productive base setup.
Video from random599 on Discord (no signs of life)
Honorable mention to @Николай_Россия1 for speeding and muting the video just so I can change my mind about it (sorry).
Thanks you're the first person ever to recommend me that video
(my laziness still knows no bounds)

how worth it is quartz for base from red cert if i alrd have proviso+lapp+texas+like 5 diff 30% trade post boosting ops? does the 4% rlly make that much of a diff?
and for experienced players how much lmd/exp per day is normal?
skip to 35- 40% op then. lvl3 proviso better use duo combo,4% on lvl2 prov is big
normally 100k daily
if proviso on high tho that both exp/lmd
is that full drone lmd too
buy diamante for base?
also will mitm e0 work same as substitute for shamare
no, check if you have other op with same skill, if yes good, if no just fill anybody. it's just add-on on shama team
is there a requirement on downgrading base rooms? i want to downgrade my hr from 2 to but cant
You can’t
nice button then! ah well im screwed then. just because i wanted to recruit click quicker, yay
Just be sure you don’t raise it to Lv 3, that will waste a lot of power
yeha i hope at the end of the beta they will allow us to fix mistakes like this?
yeah for shamare team obviously
the third worker of tp other than teq/shamare
alright
how do i get more carbon bricks guys? im trying to follow this optimal base guide. sorry if explained and i dont see.
credit shop, SK maps, dailies
Just wait, or buy some from the credit shop and if you really want more farm SK stages, but it's not advised
what should i be buying normally from the credit shop? like courier is for sale and i use him, is it worth to spend 120 credits for a copy of them??
or is credit shop best used for base building mats?
the most valuable items are usually lmd and recruit perms
but generally, you try and get all the discounted items first
Since it sounds like you’re very new, the base mats could be helpful to buy. Courier, Gavial, and Dur-nar will stop showing up after you max pot them, so no reason not to buy them
I'm actually running low on gold, might've drone tp a bit too much
Smh when thorns
I just started my base, like, beginner started it, I have changed nothing to it since the little intro tutorial for bases, what should I work on first?
Nvm, I see the guide ^^
Ohhh, so i should do 351, then 252 after I reach 4-7?
@trail roost are you proud of me!
holy shit 83k gold 
oh 4 gold 1 exp
still better than mine i think
i have 3 gold and i only make 55k
@pallid oasis i can manage my base just fine wdym!
lies
only some outside assistance required 
i mean if it’s your other lv3 fac and not a lv2 fac that was turned into gold then it’d make a bit more sense, you have more than enough 30%+ gold workers
still pretty insane though 
is there a reason why CC/RR/PP/TR whatever don’t have a countdown for morale?
hg lazy
but cc, rr and pp will have timers in a month or so

when we get skip whole stage in single run?
sweep in nov
Okay, I'm planning to downgrade my TP to max Proviso buff, but Idk if there's anyway to make Proviso stay longer....
Is there any combos to prolong Proviso stay that I miss?
I've checked the Excel and I don't see anything for it
Cc tab, but you can simply use dorm ops
oh damn i didn’t know about that, neat 
just CC workers like mlynar + smileys or wis + CE, or you could fiametta her, or you could do cursed proviso
if you aren't concerned about spoilers, qol tab in base doc
oh yea i thought i was mostly kept up with base QoL but i guess that one just slipped by me, i’ll check it out though 
4* get their base skill upgrades at e1, so there's no need to e2 them for base
Well... I have E2 4 stars voucher lying around, kinda want to use it...
Unless if there's a more worthy of the voucher in the next few banners?
windscoot will be here in a couple months
Would it worth to E2 for base?
Alright... Any good ones to E2? Except Myrtle
check this message #help message
Ah... Thanks
if i dont have vermeil i use beanstalk/click, noir and cuora?
no, this team only works if you have Vermeil E1
ahh i see
so if not i js use another set? also if i have vermeil that means noir corne and cuora is the best?
they're not the best vermeil partners but they're good when you're starting out
if no vermeil just use another team
caper actually does get bonus from e2 itself
that's not unique to caper and it's not worth e2ing ops for reception room lol
more a matter of trivia than helpful advice
should I e2 shamare? I have bibeak E2 but not tequila and shamare rn
I already have proviso working in lvl 2 tp
do it, shamare is dope
even if my tequila is e0?
Yeah
what time interval / morale count do you inject fia into pr*viso shamare tequila on same day
might need to adjust the shift in cause fia doesnt seem to replenish in time to do all three
lvl2 tp proviso need mr from cc so she can have few moral before swap, give fia less than 12h to full rest. 1 shift mylnar/W. theresa/Chongyue probably fix that. more mr less restricted time you swap
just curse 1 order whenever you log in and you'll be fine
should i have proviso in a lvl 3 tp or lvl2?
are we even going to make it that far? smh

I mean, lightning strikes the ground somewhere everyday
I'm in danger
True true heh
24 mil, damn, that's crazy 
once we get the chip update that will go poof
so many E1 max pending right now
you are holding off
yee
at the meantime im just doing some old ops mastery lol
i went back to do year 1 ops mastery
you haven't promoted since when, Marcille?
yea marcille
me going back to do liskarm mastery just to feel how slow it is for defender
no irene for defenders moment

🫵 
it's in a week
All the presets in that fac are Aroma - waaifu - 3rd slot
So I am not even sure
Maybe I put Waaifu- aroma in the 1st place for some stupid reason
you dont need to convince me further that the preset function is terrible 
we are in agreement
Yea I don't think I made that kind of mistake. More like preset bug 

I think preset look like put them out then follow the instruction to put them in
So basically aroma fucked if you do the preset
It’s supposed to keep the ramp.
They are not
But Idk, maybe sometime or that was just my mistake


That issue reminds me of a bug I encountered like 3 or 4 times with Irene "ramp up". I would finish masteries with her and even though she had been the whole 5 hours and even trained for m2 with the halved time applied, she would reset for the 3rd mastery. I am not sure why that happened.
I am suspicious of something though. I bet you've noticed that sometimes when you are working dorms, etc. you will see operators that have full morale greyed out, as if they had not finished resting, even if they have full morale bar at 24, exiting base, etc. can fix this. When we used to have the remove operator button, you could play with that a bit, by hitting that button multiple times full morale operators would alternate between grey and normal with multiple clicks. So my suspicion is that when you are working in dorms, etc. it may be the case that operators' placements do a random reset that makes them register as if they were once again placed in their slot for the first time. But I don't know for sure.
that's just server sync
happens when your internet is bad or you reopen your phone with the game on
I was going to say it sounds like when you desync in a multiplayer game, but I wasn’t sure how that would be possible in a single player game like Arknights. But server desync would make sense
I wonder if that can mess with op ramp up. I don't think it could always be my internet being slow because what usually happens when my internet is bad is that I get the rhombus loading for several seconds and I can't do anything, but the ops' pictures being bright or greyed out happens immediately without any loading issues.
I wonder if the game sometimes can fail to send the information properly, like things happen in base but no loading checkpoint is triggered. When I've witnessed something like that the game usually logs you off, but it lets you do a lot of stuff in the game before that.
Packet loss? 

i havw heard tale of some sigma grindset chad who wrote an entire research paper for barknights… could i mayhaps get a link to it

also how does proviso and other similar wffects work? does she need to be in the tp while an already-done order is collected? or does she need to be in tp while order is finished? or the entire time of order? or what lol
barknights? perroknights? for base?
You can theoretically shove Proviso 1 second before an order is traded and she can work her magic.
it works on order creation
as in you put her in right before an order finishes and her effect will be applied to the next generated order
probably the stuff you're looking for is one of the pinned messages
pin 4 (https://tinyurl.com/3ybfa66c) is a good place to start
You have a lot of good stuff to work with. You have base Abyssal Hunter team ready (only Gladiia E2 needed). You have Automation ready for 252 setup (Eunectes, Weedy, Purestream, Greyy2, Lancet).
You have the op needed for other combos but they will need promotions and only you can decide whether you are willing to give them the resources just for base.
Refer to the link I sent you, check the tabs starting from the Special tab and then to the more specific tabs by facility.
sorry i call arknights weird stuff to my friends i think i accidentally did that 😭😭
ah ty
time to tryhard proviso swap ins
umm lemme check
I wouldn't advice anything lower than 10 secs and that is already pushing it, speaking from personal experience
https://youtu.be/C_y9ltdM5Rc?si=7SjKiwu0YQSBEvqI at 19:06 i think its mentioned before too but idk
A glimpse into the cursed depths of Arknights base theory. Thanks for 1k!
Sources mentioned (sorted by author): https://pastebin.com/p8w7bLN0
why?
the way I normally do it is swap in proviso/teq a little earlier than completion and drone the last bit of the order
why?
More leeway.
for?
Prov swap, compared to putting your timer 10secs before an order created, you could do 1-3mins.
And then drone to prevent missing.
mental sanity, in a small window of ten seconds a lot of things can happen that can prevent you from successfully swapping to Proviso, but if you are a daredevil too I won't even start trying to stop you
basically if proviso isnt in the tp at the exact moment the order is generated, she wont apply her effect on the next order
this causes the next 1~2 hrs to be unboosted by proviso
yea p much
i mean you can try typing it in from the vid screenshot lol
I use a 5 mins timer to let me know Prov/Teq are up, then I set a 4:30 min timer to prepare for the swap, then I swap at around 10 secs remaining 
I think gato swaps at 15 mins iirc 

i just leave the tp open on the side while im working and check up on it when i get distracted lol
if I have enough drones to get to the next order I just drone to the next order

I can’t trust myself to look at AK periodically or trust my timers at work so I could never.
lol i miss it more often than id like so lowkey i should set up timers too
This hunter guy’s just different.
phone timers work too, but I can only use the above when I chill at home
honestly I leave Prov/Teq in tp more than I'd like to 
source^
yup
Truly a 4fun document of all time. 
lmao yea
This is why I don’t do cursed Prov, the game should be less stressful than real life
All for in-game funny money. Your ass is NOT getting real compensation for all that extra work


Opportunity cost ruined.
Define real
😭ty
My ego is real
what application do u use for this btw?
I could tell you but I am not sure this would be for your own good

wait a minute
I completely skipped the activity room line wtf
Can we get a dorm ban feature next lol
pretty sure they lined up some of the bullet points based on my observation


also CN pv

Oh nice.
ZT-8 = theft 
You think any of the new ops will have a good base skill? 
??
@wind otter ||base update||

hek yeah just in time to get thorn built for base
you finally going to promote something 

except i'm not joking
lets see how much the lmd tank
I still fail to see where the scam is
new ops will provide fine alternatives to base training skills that we don't even use anymore
supporter m1/2 skill
I'm sure I can screencap worse rewards tomorrow, give me some hours 
tbf my last e2 was corntail which isn't too long ago
that was a 4* free promo pack and you know it
no lmao
this keeps getting worse and worse
olny 5* and 6* uses
which needs
and packs skip those
i am overloaded on guard chips
wow look at this fucking whale
slow cooking
i regret not keeping 1 event token for keepsake
WHAALLEEE
that's not mine, I found it in the google
im f2p so i cant relate to whale

ikr
OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO RIGHT THIS CAME UP FIRST THING WHEN I LOOKED UP POOR ACCOUNT DEPOT
it's all in the keywords! 
Poor??? This is clearly a whale account
looks like luck account to me
clearly a whale

It’s just an acc from a very lucky individual.
they have more
and I'm whaling
🐳
hear me out, they should change the unlimited mats to rocc instead of kohl
so everyone is happy
Kohl is so useless.

just like a different shade of blue
They’ll never put rocks inside.
let's change it to 
Even sugar is way more useful ye.
is it?
not t4 sugar
Change it to the new mat to troll everyone

Just change it to the pink thingy.
rocc and device will never go unlimited shop which is why they are precious and timeless and why ZT-8 is theft 
Would be so helpful.
change it to solvent
?

I ran out of those some weeks ago, had to farm
?
the solvent, the solvent
But how.
maybe we aren't doing the same masteries
or maybe you didnt farm them during their event?
I'm free to play, remember?



I remember the Zyf guy once said f2p’s don’t have rights.
and people wonder why zyf is so hated smh
no, he's not
I've only paid in arknights once and it was just because the starter furniture pack was too good to pass on
Crazy.
i see what you trying to do there
appealing to the mods
also I made it up.
hunter trying to one up us
yeah i don't even buy anything
i just traded base skill ideas with haimao for free 6* every 10 pull
global is mistreated because global was brainwashed by Mih*yo and HG/Yostar isn't powerful enough to break that
that's also true
im so F2P in fact i try to ask HG to pay me to play their game
im so F2P the amount i spent is in the negative and hg owe me money

Wow.
that's not possible
unless you're scamming HG
i can just write them a bill and if they refuse to pay up = they owe me money

Is this the US.
uhh... someone tried something similar in the past and got a few years in prison for scam
that's call silencing critics smh they oppressing people now
sadge
What, no

I know this is just for the bit but this just straight up makes me look bad without context


Wdym starting, I was already doing it from the very beginning
My no.1 hater isn't noods but myself

Can't let myself be beaten by someone else
you can just ignore your haters
Gonna have a hard time ignoring himself.
Are ya gonna rush your masteries before Yu, don’t like the sound of having to use Shu again.
Why rush
if I can ignore myself he can do it as well
Hmm well 11 hrs to do mastery otherwise we’ll have to use Shu in fac to keep Aroma alive?
Ah right I think I'll just use them at RR cuz I can't be bothered
At least his name isn't a different blue

Alr i'm here asking for guides
Currently my base is 234, priotizing lmd and stuff
Now that all of my 6 stars are built with no pull plans for the next 6 months i think i should go for ori shards
Is there any comprehensive, minmax ori shard base farm videos or guides that i can use?
you can check the last link in the second pin, and basically the bottleneck is the
and setup 1 factory to
and 1 tp for 
and you have 2 powerplants?
or 3?
Hello 
Been helping a friend doing base rotation and i'd like some feedback real quick
There's no krooster so assume that things not included are not owned, except pozy team that isn't built and MH collab but without noir
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tNzll7RH0W8zEJqYC5VyNuwgB5yS-rkfQQHUQKV0l7I/edit?gid=0#gid=0
with a lil bit of optimization
manage to reach 60k
if I E2 shamare and use shamare team I might even be able to reach 70k
How do ypu look at that screen to see what you produce?
its in CC (control center)
one of the button on the right side
CC > assistant
is this a 252 setup?
and if so, is it really that much better?
It is a 252 setup
252 is considered to be best afaik yes
brief glance looks pretty ok to me? 8/12/12 might be kinda rough tho
oh for cc kal is working all 3 shifts? but I assume you had a replacement in mind
What should i do to fix this base?
read the pins, there is a guide on how to go from 243 to 252 in 80 seconds
do you have 2 gold facs or 3?
I like having 3 gold facs
If you have the meta tp ops ye
If you drone TP then definitely
👍
this is only a trouble because of 24 hour
maybe i should take a dead day, replenishing everyone
then deadass move onto 12
Do you guys use 2 lvl 3 gold and 1 lvl 3 exp?
the past 4 year ive been the laziest. been doing the 24/12 (check and claim every 12 hours, rotate 24 hour)
until.. probably tomorrow
you should do 12
You just balance based on what you need
do you guys leave certain ops in dorms all the time? having trouble understanding what to do for this one
no
the dorm skill only helps you with fixing rotation issue due to more than intended depleted morale
but you can replenish everyone in extremely short time without those
Is 35k lmd and 23k exp decent?
cool, thank you
you want to look at
I guess i need to work on my combos
probably 30000 exp
and +45000 LMD
this can be achieved with lowend slaves (the e1 4* and such)
81
hold on lemme check
yean nvm still
i didnt think they are that expensive
do you have
kafka or paprika
No 😦
huh then if youre commited to use this team then ig you can get diamante
e0 is nuff
Be lucky and roll kafka
Im saving for Yu rn
Already did some roll on naratuya banner
why would you want Yu
My only defenders are gummy and cuora
Saving certs for mudrock
Also i did 20 pulls and got typhon and reedic
I will pull for yu because I need yu
Which 3 op factory combos do you guys use?
Pinus Team (Ashlock, Wild Mane, Fartooth)
Bryophita + Gravel + Thorns Alter
Aroma + Waii Fu + Romontis (Perception Info team)
2x Abyssal Hunters + best gold / EXP operator
Vermeil + Pallas + Scene
Weedy + Purestream + Passenger (if you aren't running 252)
Some of these teams need a member in CC though
for more combos, etc., consult the Holy Spreadsheet, Special and FAC tabs:
This is 252 country so we mostly use 2 ops for our lvl 2 FACs though 


this okay for LMD / exp production rate? currently rank 69 with only a couple of 6* and 5*, and less than 10 E2 units. I have checked out the pinned guides here but i honestly don't have a lot of the recommended ops
i at least know I have Jaye(E0)/Lapp(E2)/Texas(E1) going for me, as well as Varmeil/Click, but I'm not sure about the rest...
I thought the increase from my previous 15-20k ish LMD to a now 35-50k LMD is big, but I think I read somewhere that that it's still far from ideal(?)
looks good for how far you are in the game
the ideal is talking about if you have every single op in the game ( or at least all of the base meta related ones), most requiring e2
also for the crazier numbers it's also going to require either some base report forgery (e.g. by saving up orders from previous day and claiming them next day), or extreme micro management (e.g. putting proviso and tequila in tps only right before an order is completed and immediately taking them out for higher % workers after)
thanks, that's great to know. hopefully proviso and tequila will grace my gacha in the future 
well, tequila is right there waiting for you in the dossoles holiday record restore
.... oh he's obtainable just like that?
yep
.-.
hecc yeah, sorry cutscenes 

is Tecno a durin?
wait, when did they limit Pozy? could have sworn she was uncapped
huh, guess I'm wrong, its been there since release
yessir, NEW tab
pretty sure it's just because at that time there were 4 durins















