r-i-i-c

[leaden grove]

If you e2 him them you could do another alter if you have moral issues

[radiant sable]

now I'm trying to do the dorms but no idea where to start

[leaden grove]

Lvl 1 dorms recover 24 moral in 12 hours with furniture so no big sweat I think

[radiant sable]

guess I'll plop an aoe in each dorm

[leaden grove]

Are you gonna use basic 24/12 hr shifts?

[leaden grove]

No need tbh

[radiant sable]

not sure I was planning to swap everyone out at once whenever their morale dies

is timed shifts how people do it

is fiammetta used to give proviso a 100% uptime?

that's the best use case I can think of

[leaden grove]

Yes

Without any base-wide moral buffers like mlynar, wisadel, or chongyue, your operators die in about 32 hours (not counting individual moral (de)buff)

So the best way to keep your ops from dying (which is good to do because dead ops = no skill) is to swap them before they die

[radiant sable]

I haven't seen wisadel mentioned anywhere in the doc, where does she go

oh the CC

[leaden grove]

Common method is 2 shifts of 12 hours with your main team, then another shift of 12 hours for them to rest

You can stagger some teams

https://youtu.be/0si4HMQuYBo?si=FEdLRKySjbKEIL_a

[radiant sable]

wait so I should totally use wisadel for my main rotation instead of amiya

and just e2 noir

or is wisadel better off used for her 1st skill? @leaden grove

[leaden grove]

Her first skill is irrelevant

I’ve seen people use her with MH alter team

I’m not very familiar since I don’t have mh units

I just use Wis and CE in my B team since main cc is mlynar vivi flametail

[opal dock]

should i use the preset thingy?

[leaden grove]

Yeah why not

Just don’t accidentally hit rest all if you have dorm workers

[opal dock]

ok

[jaunty notch]

oh right i was so disappointed with her i forgot she exist

cuz why use her when you can use a 20 lol

also not everyone's in, imagine adding 15% fac workers in

[leaden grove]

Hmmge

I’ve never noticed anyone missing before

I was just looked at fac comparing it to my base and I see meteor is missing, but she in dorm. Surely you don’t have many that are straight up missing, aside from the bin

[jaunty notch]

we don't add anyone below a certain threshold

if you want all base skill you'd look up the wiki or sth

[leaden grove]

Understandable, I just didn’t realize they weren’t in there bc I always check new

[round dock]

Highest % TP and capacity is Gnosis team and factory is Bena/Vulcan, correct?

[vital oriole]

capacity yes, tp% no

highest pure tp% is pozy tuye kirara, highest effective is pozy tuye prov with kirara in a separate tp

[mossy moat]

hello

whos the biggest base nerdge here...? I would like some help pls

Does malicast still hop in here

[leaden grove]

I haven’t seen him in a long time

Once you ask, people will come out of the woodwork though

What’s up

[mossy moat]

Are you a base nerdge space

I have been doing single-op rotations every 12h in my Fac / TP for the past 5 years now..

and w the base update, i'd like to change that and implement actual teams

I saw the sheet, but would like some suggestions for trio rotations every 12h

[leaden grove]

I try to be 🫡

Well the the presets make simple 12 hr rotations very easy in most cases

[mossy moat]

yeah..

hmmmm

[leaden grove]

You say single op rotations

[mossy moat]

how would i best show my built ops so ya can make some suggestions

[leaden grove]

Do you mean you have your team and you just swap one of the members every 12 hours for a staggered permanent team

[mossy moat]

yes

[leaden grove]

I have some of those

[mossy moat]

wait can i see ur base report?

[onyx vale]

are you meant to drain dusk and ling morale in workshop when you running WP team?

[leaden grove]

Like idk if this is even what you mean but it staggers these guys properly

[onyx vale]

Krooster is best, but import is broken rn so you have to manually add everything i think

[leaden grove]

Preset 1 is the current team

[mossy moat]

wait theres a krooster import?? since when

[mossy moat]

yeah no not doing that lol, i got like 170 E2s

[onyx vale]

v3 was a month or 2 ago

[leaden grove]

A little while now but yostar update broke it

[onyx vale]

if u dont wanna stagger u can just have teams that last longer than 12 hours and do 2 dorm swaps (it's the same work as a stagger in disguise)

[mossy moat]

There arent enough preset slots to make all 4 presets for single op rotations are there..?

[onyx vale]

this is my team rn, i can show each thing individually if u want, but i only do one swap each day

[leaden grove]

No just 3 slots, so it would have to be

AAB
ABA
BAA

Presets keep your ramp up ops like Ines and aroma though

[mossy moat]

but even then you would have to manually rotate out once right

[leaden grove]

Nah

If they’re in order you can just press the button

[mossy moat]

? for single rotation? once every 12h

[leaden grove]

Yeah like my example

[mossy moat]

Liek this?

Does that look right?

Something doesnt look right

Haze has no downtime w that setup

what am i doing wrong

[leaden grove]

You introduce a 4th person

So they would have to be manually rotated I guess

[mossy moat]

Thats what i said lol

oh were you assuming this was a lv2 fac?

[leaden grove]

Yes I just want to understand your issue

[mossy moat]

I should have mentioned that it was lv3

[leaden grove]

No I get that

[mossy moat]

issue is i'd like to introduce whole teams that work together

but idk where to start

[leaden grove]

Base combo guide

Pin #4

[mossy moat]

yeah i was looking @ that

hmmmmm

Question

[leaden grove]

I can post mine

[mossy moat]

Yes pls

suffice it to say, if I plan to swap between two teams for each fac / TP, then i may as well just swap once every 24h right

[leaden grove]

It’s not amazing at all but it’s what I can do for now 🫡

[leaden grove]

You might overload on dorm space and will definitely have capacity issue

[mossy moat]

oh fuck

fuck me thats true

dammit

[leaden grove]

But I have one shift that’s almost entirely static for 24 hours

Lemme grab

[mossy moat]

okay

[leaden grove]

i have kind of a basic, A team B team kind of thing

the most complicated it gets is when I shuffle around TP for buffing Tuye

and thus have 4 gold factories

[mossy moat]

oh wow

4 gold

[leaden grove]

yeah I try to max tuye for one shift

the numbers are the total prod averaged over the 4 shifts, just for my own reference

so like

almost nothing changes from shift 2 to shift 3

but in order to keep my dorms uncrowded, vermeil team and RR team rest a shift early

[mossy moat]

ugh

no lie, i wish i could have someone log into my acct and make fac/TP presets

lmfao im a lazy pos

[leaden grove]

oh i should say

if I didnt need to organize around a shift with 4 gold, I would have more flexibility

so this is not even a great example

but basic A team/B team shifts has worked very well for me

[mossy moat]

Yeah i was surprised ya were working around 4 gold lol

do you just pump and dump 3 TPs when you overflow w gold?

[leaden grove]

....

overflow? 🚬

[mossy moat]

when you accumulate a large surplus of gold

[leaden grove]

my tuye give pozy 102% for a shift

theres no overflow here

[mossy moat]

ahh fuck yeah tuye

im trippin

[leaden grove]

with this setup, I've actually been bleeding gold at a rate of about -5% 🚬

but if you take my 5 factories, and look at all 4 shifts, 9 shifts are exp and 11 are gold

so its not that unbalanced

its the timing is the issue

[mossy moat]

Question how the fuck

do ppl use Fia

you gotta micromanage her a bit to actually use her

given she needs full morale

[leaden grove]

You mean with this newbsystem?

[mossy moat]

with or without

rly annoying how she needs topped off morale

[leaden grove]

Well I don’t have her

PeterYR has a video

[mossy moat]

ahh yeah

oh holy shit

so she recovers 3 morale / hour???

[leaden grove]

two iirc

[mossy moat]

p sure its 3?

isnt it 3..?

[leaden grove]

Well if the dorms don’t affect her then she’s starting form 0

[inner ocean]

after a few more rotations

my god it cements more how much i love the presets

[mossy moat]

hold on hold on
so can i keep a trio in TP
then fia reload once everyday and it be okay..?
with no other rotations

will fia reload self sustain that trio

[leaden grove]

Yeah fia can keep a 3 person team permanent

[mossy moat]

how

if i fia reload once every 24h

that means the last op would have to survive 36h....

am i mathing right

[inner ocean]

fia reloads once every 12 hrs

12 hrs is the max amt an op needs to sleep

in a lvl 1 dorm, without morale boosts

but yeah that means 36 hr gaps if you want to balance 3

[mossy moat]

holy fucking shit

they're playing an ak track at my starbucks

[inner ocean]

thats doable af if you're using morale fatigue reductions

like CY or Mlynar

[mossy moat]

anyways sorry thats wild lol

but uhh

[mossy moat]

but fia reloading every 12h gets real annoying real fast

[inner ocean]

how so/

[mossy moat]

gotta be on point and eventually she will fall further and further out of rotation

right?

[inner ocean]

aaaaand no

do you honestly let your ops reach 0 morale?

[mossy moat]

um no

sry i dont think im understanding

[inner ocean]

if so, that means Fia gets a smidgen of the remaining morale of who she swaps with

it's not complete 0

[mossy moat]

hmmmmm

[inner ocean]

lemme show you

i recently rotated

[mossy moat]

so then how does fia reload keep a trio permanent?

reloading every 12h?

[leaden grove]

Yeah it doesn’t set fia to 0

[inner ocean]

Fia got that 3 morale from Shamare

so she doesn't need the total 12 hrs

it's a decent balance if you don't shit on whoever Fia targets

it's less about managing Fia

and more about managing who Fia targets

[mossy moat]

so you would need shamare in said TP rotation?

[inner ocean]

whatever you want to swap with

mine just happens to be Sham, Tequila, and Proviso

Fia gets whatever morale your targets have

it's called a Fia swap for a reason

she doesn't give morale unconditionally

they swap morale bars

[mossy moat]

you dont use reload prov..?

[inner ocean]

what are you talking about?

did i just not mention Proviso in my targets?

[mossy moat]

oh

my bad

sorry looking at the base sheet at the same time

okay so um

Sham, Tequila, and Proviso

and you just fia each one out every 12h, respectively?

[leaden grove]

You can chill
The brain will natural fill in “bibeak” or whatever after reading “sham tequila”

[mossy moat]

yeah thats exactly what i read lmao

[inner ocean]

my rotations are a natural 12 hrs yeah

so it will always happen

[mossy moat]

So um

so fia always has >3 morale after reloading?

or thats just when reloading with shamare

[inner ocean]

depends on the shifts

some get to 1 morale

some shifts leave a decent 4

as long as it ain't a complete RED 0

[mossy moat]

ahhhhh

[inner ocean]

Fia doesn't need 12 entire hours

[mossy moat]

yes yes yes

i understand now

fuck me, im a dumb bitch

[inner ocean]

Yellow 0 morale is still fine

[mossy moat]

i understand mhm ok

[inner ocean]

yellow 0-1 morale has a decent chunk of time in it still

[mossy moat]

so shamare teq prov, and fia reload once every 12h

what is optimal for 2nd TP?

[inner ocean]

the top 2 TPs

Proviso team

Sham Teq team

if you can rotate 3 times with Fia

[leaden grove]

Ah so you have 2 tailoring skills

[inner ocean]

your best TP teams are never sleeping

there's a lot of tailors available in the game right now yeah

4 to be exact

you only need 2

hell, i stopped using Bibeak cause Paprika's a prettier face

[mossy moat]

thats wild that you think that lol

[inner ocean]

when there's duplicate skills

[leaden grove]

I didn’t ask how many tailoring skills

[inner ocean]

its up to preferences

[mossy moat]

thats like saying nymph is cute

anyways

[inner ocean]

the oldies here by this point know it to heart

but i don't know how much base knowledge you guys have

so i have to point out that Tailors don't need Fia

they rotate so another Fia target can be chosen

[mossy moat]

tailors?

[inner ocean]

those 4 are all tailoring skills

[mossy moat]

okay so what are the 2 full two most eff TP teams?

Ik you had mentioned

but what ist he full team

my bad

[leaden grove]

I mean there was an entire conversation had before you came to say that you liked the presets or whatever

[inner ocean]

i wouldn't assume your entire knowledge purely on a single convo above

but anyways

just check out #4 base combo guide

[leaden grove]

You general do shamare team + whoever can help proviso the most

[inner ocean]

and check on Proviso and Tequila teams

on TP tab

those are the 2 best

[leaden grove]

No but you would know that I already mentored the base guide and that they were reading it

🚬

[inner ocean]

he keeps asking the questions still.
he asks full teams even if the sheet is in his face

i don't know how else to answer

[mossy moat]

its fine

um

[round dock]

Yeah, I meant as a whole/balance

[inner ocean]

i can't offer any secret or out-of-pocket stuff because the best stuff has already been discovered and written

and i follow it

[mossy moat]

so shamare teq bibeak in TP, then who would I rotate with?

Or can I somehow make this team permanent without fia reload

I wanna use fia reload for prov team

[inner ocean]

you need 3 Fia rotations to hit Proviso, Sham, and Teq for the best TP team to never sleep

if you can only spare 2, Sham and Teq has to go for someone else and you need a 3rd TP team to sub for them

Proviso gets prio

[onyx vale]

if you have one of the bibeak alternatives you can swap one of them in and use that saved reset on prov instead, the bibeak skill has some ramp time tho if you care about that loss of efficiency

[mossy moat]

i have bibeak e2

[onyx vale]

yea i thought u wanted to also fio reset prov tho

[crimson quiver]

ori farm what base?

[regal snow]

bruh i'm so upset

16 of my arene ops got revived due to rest all

don't even know how or when they got there

[languid blaze]

got ambush by elbana i think

[regal snow]

i don't even care anymore, i'm killing them through workshop

[languid blaze]

preset come with trap, can't even let guard down in base

[regal snow]

real

[stuck crow]

killing them with workshop wtf

[formal marlin]

is the riic planner still a good one to use, or is it outdated?

[inner ocean]

that is so backwards though...to fuel Arene, you're wasting crafting chances to fatigue his army?

that is unless you have so many carbon bricks

that's fine to use to fatigue ops

[formal marlin]

so is there a guide on the presets?

[round dock]

meh, my only complaint is filling factory and TP quickly while sleeping, I'm sure there's a better/smarter way to do it

[inner ocean]

same #4 base combo guide

it's under QoL tab

read through here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit#rangeid=1898123283

i linked the 5.5 anni base update

global just got it earlier

if you still see 6.0

just scroll down until you see 5.5

[formal marlin]

so it's not ideal to use the rest all function since it messes with fiametta's skill

[inner ocean]

i really don't know. Wouldn't all ops with full morale be kicked out?

all i know is

i would never use it because it would put 0 morale Lancet to dorm

[formal marlin]

for special teams, should i only use one to reduce the complexity of the presets?

or pick any 2 and fill them in

[inner ocean]

I'm guessing you haven't made your own base rotation sheet yet?

usually those of us who have just put our specific rotations per room in it

still

usually what happens is if you practice staggering teams

you'd most likely only need 2 presets in factories and TP

[formal marlin]

yea, i don't have any rotation set yet

[inner ocean]

it's gonna be a lot easier to start one

it might be annoying when making

but once you finish it

everything else is braindead just swapping stuff in and out based on your sheet

[formal marlin]

should i try to fit some special teams in or just go for raw stats

[round dock]

you can do both?

[rose knoll]

trying to make an "HG-compliant" base rotation

no combos that need multiple buildings, only 20 dorm slots needed at once max

underflow/ulpian is an exception since ulpian won't need to rest and risk a desync

[stuck crow]

i assume greyy is greyy2?

[rose knoll]

Oh I'm looking at EN so same thing

Actually ig greyy2 would be better, there's a chance to sync with weedy

[formal marlin]

so does stagger work with the presets? like if you are moving some out, does the preset leave those operators in?

[rose knoll]

Rotate All button: no
Rotating presets by facility: kinda, not really

You have to manually choose the preset instead of tapping the button

[formal marlin]

so presets = good, rotate all = bad?

[languid blaze]

yes semi auto lel

[formal marlin]

haha, was hoping for a simpler one button solution, haha

[stuck crow]

how much was 4 rhine mumu again

it looks like you can easily fit her there

[rose knoll]

Inter-facility combo, so wouldn't work

Even if you put them in dorms (and we had CN's locking feature), that means the working ops can't rest

[stuck crow]

you run salter doro ptilo/silence in exp factory

2 bodies in rr

actually i didn't try to use mumu with dead bodies but i assume it works

[rose knoll]

Oh lmao that'd be funny

But still, 50% chance it gets desynced from the fac workers

[languid blaze]

ifrit train saria forever 😆
n couple Silent/doro dorm/fac
30 mayer

[rose knoll]

The idea is to make it work with rotate all/rest all

[formal marlin]

desync is due to no one is tired in that room?

[stuck crow]

I'm probably misunderstanding that
oh wait, you want to use "rotate all" thingy only?

[rose knoll]

Ye

[stuck crow]

so only swapping when they hit 0?

[rose knoll]

Lol

Should've clarified

[stuck crow]

man this sounds like it would waste so much prod due to running at 0 morale while you sleep

[rose knoll]

Yeah but HG wants us to play that way apparently

[formal marlin]

I would probably use that since I will most likely be lazy to move people around, haha

[arctic prism]

aroma waaifu for some gold fac is the only other thing not on there i can think of other than solo workers even though they are also technically solo workers lmao

[stuck crow]

how would vermeil scene work actually

does it rotate the entire facility even if only one member is at 0?

[rose knoll]

Idk

Someone grab a dead Lancet and test pls

[arctic prism]

okok

[round dock]

dead lancet won't rotate in, but out

[arctic prism]

oh wait i gotta press the rotate all button huh

oh boy ok

[rose knoll]

So if it's like, 1 dead 2 working, then Rotate All swaps out all 3?

[arctic prism]

seems like it rotated whole thing?

[round dock]

it won't even switch in reduced morale Conviction with FEater

[rose knoll]

Aight makes sense

So combos within a facility still work

[round dock]

my CC wouldn't if Amiya was low on Morale

[rose knoll]

Wait actually I was asking about the rotate all button, but I assume it works like that too

[formal marlin]

I think rotate all must have at least one is at 0 morale

[round dock]

oh, that I'm not sure, I do manual per room

[arctic prism]

yea the rotate button only gets filled in if someone is dead

[formal marlin]

and can only rotate out, not in if dead, right?

[arctic prism]

and seems like only rotates the facilities that has someone dead in it

[arctic prism]

probably? although i havent tried that

[formal marlin]

it can rotate a dead one back in

but haven't tried rotate all

let me try that

[round dock]

on the bright side, with presets I don't have to look for AH ops

[arctic prism]

lol yea that one is lowkey huge

[stuck crow]

this update is something i would've used for my awful base on cn
i assume that's the intention (especially for people only playing on phones?)
but damn, did they really need to remove timers and filters from the base

[round dock]

I find the blue preset icon annoying

I find it harder to see who's low on Morale

especially with this horrid rotation set I'm using now

[formal marlin]

so presets only are allowed if that preset has no tired ops

from the rotate button

so if you want to move a dead one in, it will not be allowed

that also means if there is a tired op, it will skip that preset

maybe create 2 separate teams that are 24 hour and are mutually exclusive?

[rose knoll]

Yeah that's what I'm doing, basically an op can't appear twice in the schedule

[formal marlin]

i count 30 slots with 4 of them being for the right buildings on 252 mr, and only 20 dorms, haha

so if we remove 1 for the trainee, 9 needs to be somehow permanent, haha

that or the dorm has to be cleared out before it rotates

[arctic prism]

5 cc is perma
the 2 slots for TR and 1 for WS doesnt reduce morale over time
leaving 2 RR slots dead (since it provides the least value) solves this

can check the image peteryr posted (the one I replied to)

[formal marlin]

oh yea, i just noticed that

[rose knoll]

Hmm, you kinda get fucked if you ever need to train skills or craft stuff

[arctic prism]

yea

[rose knoll]

Maybe we can restrict it to only 19 dorm slots

And drop a PP

Might work with some kinda inconsistent dead Lancet setup

[inner ocean]

which timer you talking about?

i still see the timers

just in a different more convenient place

[raw roost]

Say, I remember reading somewhere that CN is able to lock an op in yhe Dorm?
So that ops that need to be in the Dorm for support to others don't get removed each time you click rest.

Is it on EN already? How do you set it up?

[inner ocean]

it's in #4 pinned too

and sadly, it's updated in Yu's event

....with the inclusion of the 3 new rooms that don't help production that much

[raw roost]

Ah, still a long way to go. Guess manual it is for now

[obtuse wyvern]

my weedy purestream in lv2 factory kept capping

[leaden grove]

Press button more

[inner ocean]

yeah that happens

thats why we try to visit base an extra time between the 12 hr gaps

just to not waste it

if you don't want to, it's fine

but thats how powerful Pure Weedy are.

[frail flicker]

huh I just realized a use for the rest all button

crafting with stainless/arene...

[opal dock]

didnt expect the gambling breaker to be here

[glass arch]

There’s no guide on who to put on the auto rotation, right?

[jaunty notch]

yeah

[leaden grove]

It’s just.. the combo guide. Check pins link #4

[languid blaze]

Drone tp Harder of course Ml surplus gold, do 3 tp

[leaden grove]

Could make more exp if needed

[inner ocean]

i just call it the cycle of 3 EXP and 3 LMD

you do 3 LMD to stockpile enough gold to be comfortable for Proviso to eat

and then go to 3 EXP to have the gold slowly melt down into useful LMD

although in my case regarding this, I just keep droning Proviso's room.....and maybe some dualchips

[leaden grove]

Nevermind, your combos are good. Maybe lvl 3 tp would be good

[languid blaze]

would work

[inner ocean]

the issue with changing into 3 TP is it'll eat up drones for both transitions

also a bigger pain in the ass to make rotations out of

I guess at least for me, I really do not want a 3rd TP because that means I'm forced to use Top 3 and Top 4 TP squads (which potentially eats CC space)

just going 3 EXP for a while and droning Proviso

has really lowered my gold stockpile already

from 1000+ to already in the 890+ spot

[languid blaze]

need to figure yourself, not so bad if used to it,spare 180 drone. still got 2m suplus from 342 with 500k exp.

[inner ocean]

Ehhh. I melt gold without changing facilities. Just the product in factory.

Much less wasteful for my needs

[languid blaze]

Nah i run at max efficiently, be it exp/lmd/Orundumb

[inner ocean]

So why you wasting drones to change rooms?

Ever since Proviso existed, I really had no use for 3 TP anymore.

[languid blaze]

drone investment for higher %, tbf no need for 3 tp except Ao farming if you value efficiently. with proviso exp/lmd 1:2

even if not ao probably stack lmd slowly with mod/e2

[vital oriole]

but 400% tp

[tulip shale]

How long would it take for a single level 3 TP staffed to sell 2000 gold?

[stoic spoke]

Drone TP or EXP?
(4.8 vs 4.10)

[outer rampart]

Is 252 or 243 better? In the pinned google docs almost all sample rotations use 252

[stuck crow]

252 is better

[valid storm]

252 is much better - more production and less hassle and cheaper to setup

[outer rampart]

max left or max right?

im currently very far into the game if that affects anything

[valid storm]

max left is much better, but even max right outperforms 243

[jaunty notch]

left

[stuck crow]

for example

[jaunty notch]

you can get max right later if you ever want it

or not at all

[jaunty notch]

overview

[stuck crow]

same with prod facilities

[valid storm]

and TR isn't needed that much

[stuck crow]

yeah but would it kill them to duplicate the info...

[jaunty notch]

oh yeah it's on my sheet too

questionable

[vital oriole]

nearly 5 years now with only tr1

[outer rampart]

where can i find what every level do to rooms? especially the right ones

i cant find it in the docs

[valid storm]

the first link should have it

[outer rampart]

found it i was looking at the base combo one

[outer rampart]

wait the right side isn't downgradeable am i forced to use max right?

[pale yoke]

Another day of 252 propaganda

[valid storm]

yes

[silent nova]

new dorm is near unusable

[stoic spoke]

[fluid pollen]

New dorm is great.

[frank lotus]

does Vina count as siege or do i need use Vina + morgan + siege for trading post?

[fluid pollen]

Vina does not count as Siege. Vina is just a conditional 40% with Glasgow in tp and also doesn’t count as Glasgow herself.

[frank lotus]

yea GG i guessed much so had to make sure siege part

and it do be make sense vina doesnt count as Gg itself

||as if i understood she isnt part of glasglow anymore as an alter lorewise after she became what Vina is||

[stuck crow]

first time?

spalter isn't ah

salter isn't rhine

[stone roost]

So .. if I press this rotate button, it will rotate ALL facilities to the next preset in line, correct?

Since we still gotta do Dormitories manually .. should I do my dorms before that?

Oh, I guess not

What does the rotate button do then

It clearly rotates more than one facility

[inner ocean]

it tries to rotate every room

but it only changes that room if there's a Red 0 morale ops in it

in other words, it's made for non- #r-i-i-c players

[pale yoke]

absolute travesty

[stone roost]

What the ..

That's actually beyond dumb.

Dont tell me, when I press the preset rotate button

It also only rotates dead units

[valid storm]

yes

[fluid pollen]

For the individual preset rotate button I think someone alr tested that if you have a dead op it’ll swap all to the next preset.

[fluid pollen]

@uncut dome droned tp section also has the same highlight issue, didn't check that previously.

[pearl jackal]

Is this gud?

[pale yoke]

decent for a single day

[stoic spoke]

what about me

[fluid pollen]

Cheater.

[rose knoll]

You need better rotations

Try rotating 90 degrees counterclockwise

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/icc-cricket-cricket-world-cup-ic19-disgusted-cricket-fan-gif-14327626

[pale yoke]

you're making so much gold surplus daily

worse if you use teq team means there's more hidden gold in there

would recommend adjusting accordingly

[radiant sable]

welp, I roped long enough, time to figure out my 2nd shift

[stoic spoke]

LMD normally 54k/day --drone--> 70k/day.
EXP normally 33k/day --drone-->39k/day
Now tell which is better value to drone.

[pale yoke]

if you're fixated on the gold production i'd recommend lmd drone in your case

otherwise your gold just going to pile up

[stoic spoke]

uhh..piling up gold isn't too bad

good to have stash in case farming orundumb

[pale yoke]

Oh

Yea if that's the objective

[indigo robin]

Is there a new low budget guide with the base update? The one im using isn't working with the rotate thingy since it can only have 3 presets

[vocal egret]

is there a way i can stop the rest from autoresting lancet
for the eunectes base team

[obtuse wyvern]

idts

[eternal plover]

how do i use the combo guide to make presets?

[onyx vale]

no, you just have to not click the rest button

[onyx vale]

just see which combos of the best combos you have and glue them together

[main yew]

why is it so easy to hit this button to put in ops in the resting area WHEN I DONT WANT THEM THERE?!?!?! i went to do my rotation and once again it has ops i didnt want there, it ruins my bonus to that refine bonus , needs x ops under 50% for it to work

this new UI is INFURUATING!!! why cant they at least have an option to use old one for those that hate this

[onyx vale]

i mean as long as you ignore one button, it is objectively better. but yea it's annoying to get used to

[main yew]

I TRY TO! I DONT KNOW HOW IT WAS EVEN HIT OR WHEN

this is the most furstating thing in this game for me, all they had to do was not make stupid changes to the UI

i dont get it

[stuck crow]

it's actually insane for that

you click it and you instantly get the 20 dead bodies in there

do crafting, then remove the bodies

[main yew]

it takes me so long to put the ops back in there for bonuses , esp a lot of them are not resting bonuses to they take a long time to find

[onyx vale]

there is an update later that lets you lock ops to dorms

[main yew]

wait there is? how?

[onyx vale]

just google it, it's a couple months away though i think, not sure when it will happen but it exists on CN rn

[main yew]

should been packaged with this new UI change cuz i dont want these ops reeeeeeemooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvdeeed

[onyx vale]

i dont think locking a unit outside of a dorm has been added tho, so you still have to make sure ur lancet isn't put in there

[stuck crow]

ok but

if you were using arene/stainless, you already didn't have any dorm slots empty/with ops that give bonuses

🤔

[somber goblet]

is there a preset meta for a 4-2-3 base layout

[rose knoll]

step 1: switch to 342

[somber goblet]

3 trad 4 fac 2 pp?

[rose knoll]

yeah if you're serious about going all-in on LMD

but usually a 252 will do fine if you drone the TPs more

[somber goblet]

yea im planning on going all for lmd

if theres only 2 pp then what lv are the other rooms going to be

[languid blaze]

mr
tp 3,3,2
fac 3,2,2,2 or 3,3,2,1
2 pp

[mossy moat]

Is there any op that pairs best with lv2 TP perma-Prov?

[fluid pollen]

Any single high tp% op works. Go to pin 4 to check out what’s available.

[rose yarrow]

Ok I am an experienced player and I am trying to establish the absolute best BASE that I can. Anyone around that can critique my setup?

[rose yarrow]

CC1: Eunectes, Mlynar, Flametail, Viviana, Gnosis
CC2: Gladiia, Lava Alter, Kroos Alter, Habiscus Alter, Wis'adel

TP1: Shamare, Tequila, Bibeak
TP1sub: Kafka

(Fiammetta rotation of Shamare, Tequila, Proviso)

TP2: Proviso, Jaye, Silverash
TP2sub: Underflow, Exusiai

FACG1: Weedy, Purestream, Windflit
FAC Gsub: Ulpianus, Skadi, Spot
FACG2: Bryophyta, Gravel, Haze

FACE1: Vermeil, Scene, Pallas
FAC Esub: Specter, Andreana, Shirayuki
FACE2: Conviction, Feater, Ex-Alter

RR1: Ines, Chen
RR2: Vigil, Cantabile

HR1: Penance
HR2: Eyja

PP1: Lancet (Dead)
PP2: Greyy Alter/Justice
PP3: Friston

[harsh wigeon]

Are you running 12 hour shifts? Not sure how Gladiia is staying alive without running short shifts like a 4-4-16
Cantabile should not be needed in RR as you can stagger single ops like Ines-Chen, Chen-Vigil, Vigil-Ines
Friston should be replaced with any 20 or 15%
If you have a list of ops you own that'd help, I assume you don't have the ops for any of the Sui combos?

[obtuse wyvern]

is it just me or now you cannot tap outside the hexagon boundary

to access the craft page

huge nerf

[languid blaze]

pp main
greyalter
lancet
20%
sub
20%
20%
20%

good clue bias if both e2

[simple violet]

Is there anyway to turn off these "Rest Operators" notifications?

[pale yoke]

[jaunty notch]

3 months later

[frail flicker]

Does anyone know which preset is selected when you press the blue button in the right here?

[remote bison]

i wish pressing rest doesnt clear out the 24 slaves if i have no <24 ones

mr nothing seeing his TP % literally nothing

[stoic spoke]

you'll get used to it (like me)

[pale yoke]

[valid storm]

Wait, Factories are ordered based on floor and not production in the new UI, right?

[stoic spoke]

@frail flicker I think it switches to the team with most alive operators

Most alive=team with highest morale sum at that point

[valid storm]

what

I thought that it cycles through them regardless of the morale

[stoic spoke]

No, I just tried in CC and it didn't switch to the 3rd team which had least morale operators

Kept cycling team 1 & 2

[valid storm]

Interesting

[jaunty notch]

didn't we talk about this you were there too

[orchid bane]

if only

I would like to have more preset, and just cycle them regardless

[indigo robin]

Real i still don't understand why they only limit it to 3

Btw is the Pudding robot team any good?

[opal dock]

is it possible to change from 243 general base to 333 orundum base within 1 day?

also is oru farming good enough on mid to late game?

[stuck crow]

no

[opal dock]

[orchid bane]

Cause they are going to upgrade it, and we are going to blow out mind later on

-# Or I am just coping

[stuck crow]

see you in 5 years

[orchid bane]

-# or they are going to sell it 5 po per slot

[valid storm]

Orundumb farming is good any time you don't need to farm mats for operators

[stoic spoke]

get all mats from event farms so you never have to farm mats for operators

[opal dock]

aight

[pale yoke]

333 based

[remote bison]

[night cloak]

Is it worth it to E1 / E 2 operator to just use them in base and don’t use them to fight at all

[jaunty notch]

no except proviso

[night cloak]

Okay

[stuck crow]

e1 are good

[plain gust]

Should you drone shamteq TP ? It doesn't seem to produce higher values orders

[valid storm]

Yes, after waiting for the ramp up, it should produce higher value ones

[stuck crow]

drone proviso in lvl2

[plain gust]

Proviso and shamteq are staggered anyway because i don't have fia

Yeah just watched the last part of PeterYR video, i missed it

[stuck crow]

doesn't matter

put proviso out of the dorm for a minute

fully drone

put her back

[plain gust]

oh never thought about that, i'll do it if i'm not too lazy to micro manage it

[frosty quest]

does mont3r work with mlynar on cc?

[onyx vale]

is kirara worth it if im running tuye/poze/prov in another tp or should i just put in a another high % worker?

[pale yoke]

only if you're running 4 gold factory

[valid storm]

and what if I'm running 5 gold fac?

[pale yoke]

means you're wasting your xp base ops potential

you lose more than you gain at that point really in terms of fac % vs tp%

especially when we have fewer gold ops with high %

[valid storm]

And what about 5 factory?

[pale yoke]

I don't do fac so I don't want to speak on that

[valid storm]

I only run a singular one, so..m

[pale yoke]

hmm yea you'd want to wait for orun famer input on that one, thats the only thing i dont care to learn about for base

i have notzyf and noods as friend so i dont need to pull on every ops i can just have them do that

[valid storm]

I have almost every operator

I'm only missing, Nymph, Ines, Lin and Vigna and Bobbing

And Artu

[plain gust]

I don't have Fia so i can't have perma uptime on proviso, what's my best second rotation for Lv2 TP ? Just good general workers ?

[harsh wigeon]

2 best single workers or a duo from bottom row if you can fit it

[onyx vale]

if u can just do stagger with mr nothing, terra research and prov

or if u dont mind a bit more complexity you can replace terra research with tuye + poze

[plain gust]

Is delphine in cc worth it ? not sure about the opportunity cost of a CC slot

[plain gust]

missing a bit of ops for WP team, what about opportunity cost of maxing out felvine ?

[harsh wigeon]

It depends on what you are running, it'd be +15% over something like Vigil TRC

[onyx vale]

felvine have the +2 fac +7 tp on them so it's not too bad

[plain gust]

got it, will calc it a bit and see then, thanks

[buoyant ivy]

What's the most optimal operator set up for the entire base in 2-4-3 to produce as much LMD as possible?

[harsh wigeon]

Prob Pozyomka team running 4 gold factory with Proviso in other TP

But if you care about still producing some exp or don't have the ops it'd depend on what you have

[buoyant ivy]

Hmm what's the best overall base set up for gold and exp?

[harsh wigeon]

Do you have all ops? If you do you could try something like this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZS56zNjzu8gH8gtYO6gqfRWT_HnpUMSVoIJVEi_Artk/edit?gid=0#gid=0

But if you don't have all the OPs listed raised you can put a list of what you have and I can take a look

[indigo robin]

How do you rotate those ops that are in for 36 hours with the new base setup? Do you just assume theres an invisible preset?

3 presets are very limiting

[harsh wigeon]

Are you trying to have it so you just press the one button to rotate all ops? Otherwise I think you can just click the button for the single facility when the 36 hours is up

[indigo robin]

This is what troubles me

No I meant something like these. Due to the limitation of preset I have to remove the start part on this guide. Im not sure if that's a good idea

Same with proviso since i don't have a fie i can't really cycle her all the time but it would be annoying to manually edit the preset everytime i have to switch

Newbie btw so I'm still following a low budget guide

[harsh wigeon]

If you want to keep using Snowsant for 3/4 uptime you'd have to remove one of the presets with Snowsant and just manually swap in say Yato for Mouse

Or if you prefer the convenience, you can remove one of the 30% and just do 24 hour shifts like you said

[indigo robin]

So in the end i have to manually manage it is that correct? In provisos tp do i let her die then cycle her? To maximize her usage?

[harsh wigeon]

It'd be the same concept with all the 36 hour shifts, you'd be force to only have 3 of the presets saved and manually manage one swap

[indigo robin]

I see, Thank you.

I really still don't understand why they limit the presets

[harsh wigeon]

If it puts your mind at ease, it's a fairly small difference in your case:

[indigo robin]

Oh that's good to know

Thnx

[vital oriole]

1kb of memory x 10mil players = 10gb of server memory storage necesary for every player per slot would be my guess

But I agree its annoying

[indigo robin]

Btw regarding proviso. Should i upgrade her to e2 directly even though my gold team is still only the low budget type?

Would my gold keep up even with droning?

[harsh wigeon]

You can plug your numbers in here to check the ROI: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1abeMYMOtfpudnKGWrwaKa3feCl5HUoiXLqsaJVyOrKU/edit?gid=1560051793#gid=1560051793

[harsh wigeon]

Would need to know your set up to do some calculations, I think the general idea is to switch to droning gold if you are running low on gold

[buoyant ivy]

Thank you so much, that's exactly what I was looking for. And yes I do have all of those ops. One question though do the listed dorm operators stay there even with max morale?

[harsh wigeon]

Yes, if you are running low on dorm space you can cut out mumu for a 20/15% so you don't have to put in the Rhine Lab ops in Dorm for her

[harsh wigeon]

Here's one where you can click the "rest ops" button without worry. It comes at the cost of some lmd/gold prod https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B5_sy0vuK4UUOp52kNCAr-C-_LXoUBAox1970JVgoc0/edit?usp=sharing

[stone roost]

Who dis

[wild ice]

crownslayer

[stone roost]

Oh. Who replaces her until she releases

[fluid pollen]

She’s just a 35% exp op.

[buoyant ivy]

Amazing, I'll try the first one to see if it will work for me

[pale yoke]

i just deleted 7 inactive friends i think some people really dislike the update

[orchid bane]

Don't delet meh. I just a lil dislike the update, I promise

[fluid pollen]

…..or they just lost their account.

[vital oriole]

Feels questionable

Wonder what the numbers are like if you swap Teq for a 95% Mr Nothing lol

[stuck crow]

not just "feels" but it actually is

🫡

[orchid bane]

Not good for sure

[vital oriole]

with Tuye Mr No Prov would be 465% production in one TP

[orchid bane]

Cause you surely have to sacrifice your other TP

[stoic spoke]

put pepe in there

[vital oriole]

other tp would be 215

would beat my current max top output lol

but that would require HR3 which is the real

[pale yoke]

oh yea that's possible omg

[fluid pollen]

[misty valley]

An average of 40k and 50k is good right?

Lmd

[pale yoke]

no

[orchid bane]

Depend on the time you spend on it per day

1 minute: good

-# 23hr: bad

[misty valley]

I only rotate it once a day

Time constraints

[urban orchid]

Okay, morale consumption acting weird when when you craft multiple items in workshop

[pale yoke]

Same here one rotation a day is this good?

[rugged phoenix]

Inefficiency of new base qol

[opal dock]

irl: power outage
phone: out of mobile data
base:

[pale yoke]

[opal dock]

dw
normal base operations would be resumed by tomorrow

[orchid bane]

You need more xp

[fluid pollen]

Oh really.

How much exp do you make Red.

[pale yoke]

[fluid pollen]

[pale yoke]

[round dock]

Not the most consistent AO production for some reason

[random whale]

I consistently get 40k+ lmd a day with these 2 presets

Mlynar, Paprika, Tachanka, Ela, any op that works with mlynar passive

Amiya, Wis'adel, Civilight Eterna, jessicalter, any op with plus morale skill

Though this is hella bad considering I don't have great ops so yeah...

The base layout is
2Trading post
3 Power plants
4 factories half/half on gold and exp

[random whale]

What's your rotation to get this much wth

How do you people here get consistent 60k when I have to slave away and micromanage everything smh

[leaden grove]

252 and decent trading post workers is a good start

[woeful monolith]

Did they remove the remaining time of the operator can work in the factory, tp etc?

[leaden grove]

No it’s just in overview now

[woeful monolith]

Oh it's only there now,
Thank you

[orchid bane]

enuff

[oak wedge]

@short umbra

Here's one example

[short umbra]

so youre swapping 2 between certain rotations, i understand

[spring quartz]

Should I upgrade that

[leaden grove]

You should downgrade that

[spring quartz]

which one

[leaden grove]

https://youtu.be/sBw1UW03crs?si=lfmW2q75HK8EHem6 all these

[spring quartz]

what

it's a real thing>

[leaden grove]

Yes?

❓

[slim yarrow]

greetings, where can I find the best base slave teams excel sheet?

[spring quartz]

what's the point

[leaden grove]

Pined in links, #4 “base combo guide”

[slim yarrow]

thx!

[leaden grove]

More production

[spring quartz]

??

[leaden grove]

252 base has better production

[spring quartz]

what are these numbers

[slim yarrow]

I never bothered with it, but now since the update I might aswell spend 10m on it and optimize some stuff

[spring quartz]

converting from 243 to 252 max

[hollow tinsel]

2 trading post 5 factory 2 powerplant

better than 243

just keep ur office lvl 2 and ur good

[spring quartz]

alr thanks

[slim yarrow]

any tips on what to do when you have like 1000+ excess gold on 252 setup? Mainly cause I use all drones to speed up gold since the routine is faster. I guess I can just switch one of the gold facs to exp for a month.

[languid blaze]

go 2gold 3exp drone lmd, burn gold slowly. drone lmd>Exp>>>gold

[slim yarrow]

I'm too lazy to be droning lmd (it's not a single click), that's why I'm thinking 1gold 4exp.

[arctic prism]

even if you burn the 1 drone every time (from leftover prod on the order) on a proviso tp it's gonna be more efficient than droning factories... but if you really dont want to drone tp even factoring that in, yeah you can run less gold factories and/or drone exp

[slim yarrow]

hmm, you're right droning proviso is most efficient, but -100k per month not to drone lmd is a fair price. Or at least I think that's what I'm losing...lol

[fluid pollen]

Just become exp droner. Cho.

[arctic prism]

lol what's up with the name

no1 zyf hater

what did he do

[fluid pollen]

He knows what he did.

[slim yarrow]

Sadly I also have an exp excess. Got everything but LMD.

[arctic prism]

...drone tp then?

[slim yarrow]

never! it takes more than 1 click

[arctic prism]

it's not even that many more clicks lmao

[slim yarrow]

it is more psychological than anything, I don't wanna "work" or do routines while I play. Got enough of it irl. So yeah, I'm just being childish. Anyway, it is fine. I didn't even notice the excess until the base update.

[fluid pollen]

Cooked.

[grand knot]

bruh i never knew about this

[slim yarrow]

yeah, in CN it is now instant. QoL something, something.

[grand knot]

ohh thats why

[slim yarrow]

That and the trust buildings will be game-changers, you'll have max trust before M3 without over-refreshing sanity.

[grand knot]

what you mean by this?

[slim yarrow]

look up "Activity room trust rewards"

tldr: room gives 10%+ trust per day. And you can pair it with other trust-gaining tips and tricks. A dorm, but only for 1 Op for maxing out their trust. Most importantly, you can move them around

Also have I mentioned we can get modules without 100 trust?

[grand knot]

ohh thats nice
i thought you mean that we need to max trust before we can do M3 lol

[slim yarrow]

my bad, I meant like currently we have a lot of tricks to M3 operator skills quickly so what ends up happening in showcases is the op is max level and M3, but missing trust. Hopefully with this we can also quickly raise the trust of a specific op.

[grand knot]

thats nice QoL
it takes weeks before max trust right now

[inner salmon]

for hibiscus the purifier's base skill do I need an Alternate operator to be in the base for the +0.05 moral boost or do I just need to have then on my account?

[onyx vale]

it's for every alter operator in the CC

[inner salmon]

Contingency Contract?

[onyx vale]

there is currently 24 alt ops, would be a little op if you just needed them on you account

[onyx vale]

control center

[inner salmon]

ohhh okay

thanks

[onyx vale]

look at pins there is a base combo sheet #4

[inner salmon]

does it include hibiscus herself?

[onyx vale]

you shouldnt really run alters in the CC unless you really dont want to manage it, other units can offer much stronger bonuses if you just do a swap once a day at least

[inner salmon]

yeah but if I run wisadel with Hibiscus alter

with ines in the thingy

[onyx vale]

even without a morale buff wisadel should last more than 24 hours

[inner salmon]

i know

[onyx vale]

how long do you want her to last?

[inner salmon]

Long enough ngl

uhh

32 hours ish?

[onyx vale]

yea she lasts that long lol

base drain with 5 ops in CC is 0.75, so all ops last 32 hours with no buffs/debuffs

[inner salmon]

oh cool

how do you check how long does an op have before needing to be swapped

[onyx vale]

there isn't currently an exact timer unfortunately but if you go into the overview then click on the CC it will show you how much sanity each op has, so you just divide that number by how much they lose per hour

ie 17/0.75 ~= 22 hours

[inner salmon]

ohhh okay

[onyx vale]

easiest estimation is 3 morale is 4 hours

[pale yoke]

[tawdry pulsar]

How come control center alter team isnt running? But if u take one off they work?

[short umbra]

running the a1 alter cc skills + 2 alters alongside them pushes the morale boost high enough to go into the positives. effectively they are working but arent losing any morale

running this base combo isnt something you would normally want to go for since it means passing up on cc skills that boost other facility production speeds. its only an option for if youre lazy and really dont want to have to cycle out your cc

[pallid isle]

It's the same thing that happens with rainbow 6

Working but also gaining morale at the same time

[plucky basin]

Here's an idea: automated base schedule.

You can set timings where presets will swap out, including the dorms

you'd still need to go and collect though, so should be balanced

[pallid isle]

Maa does that for you

Well some what depending on exactly what your talking about

[plucky basin]

well, what I said

[low junco]

hello
I started a new account ( my old one can't be recovered) and was wondering what are the best early game base ops I should build

all these links are givin me a headache

[stoic spoke]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?gid=800801592#gid=800801592

[maiden wave]

go to the beginners guide section and you're pretty much set

[low junco]

thx

[pearl jackal]

Guys is this gud rotation?

I would appreciate some recommendations

[stuck crow]

remember what i told you guys about tuye

another example

[stuck crow]

would need to fix proviso's tp at the very least

[stoic spoke]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/390756814532378634/1101448428866773022/ezgif-3-a96bd92462.gif

[pearl jackal]

I'm a gacha player

[pearl jackal]

How?

Also what other things should need fixing?

[wooden prawn]

check your tuye %

[pearl jackal]

%?

[pearl jackal]

Unfortunately no pozyemka

Honestly just too lazy to find a replacement

[pearl jackal]

Also

[stuck crow]

ely canta are generally bad workers

idk what mulberry is doing there, since you have no sui

...or no Mr nothing, for that matter

that's about it, from a quick look

[pearl jackal]

Here's my roster

Also is fac fine?

I feel like my cc and fac are also kinda meh

[tawdry pulsar]

Ohh tyvm! Appreicate the help

[wooden prawn]

any 30% is better than tuye without pozy(20%)(your tuye is e0???)
if mizuki is e0 replace with 25% or purestream in gold facs and rotate 4 gold workers
add 7% tp buff in 3rd cc shift
pudding is not really worth it, especially if you use drones on proviso's tp and have 20% pp worker

[pearl jackal]

I can e2 them easily if needed

By rotating 4 gold workers, how does that work?

[wooden prawn]

bryo+spot+gravel
bryo+spot+haze
bryo+haze+gravel
spot+haze+gravel

[pearl jackal]

I already have mizuki at e2

[onyx vale]

only thing you need to pay attention to is not fully maxing right side immediately, you lose a lot when you do and really you only need training room max level

[low junco]

yeah I remember something about not getting the texas mission to make rr lvl2 or something because it's not efficient

[onyx vale]

max right 252 still beats max right 243, but if you don't max you get a lot more production from saved power

so if you max it's fine but if you starting on a fresh account you might as well just optimize

[low junco]

can we still do rr1 ?

I can't find it in the image

or is it unnecessary

oh wait I am dumb

[stoic spoke]

Yes

Although focus on building left

RR and Office can be left untouched

[low junco]

[pale yoke]

[whole tapir]

Is this a bad team or just good enough.

[languid blaze]

how much % jay give

[whole tapir]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

idk ig?

[languid blaze]

kick jay put 35%

[rugged phoenix]

What if once base gets out of beta, the theoritical max lmd you can make is 30k?

[arctic prism]

then we go to hg hq and riot lmao

[vital oriole]

clearly prts has been holding back base to prevent us from getting too strong

[languid blaze]

base out of beta you can make mat from thin air, convert gold to orundum, can 6buy exp with lmd

[scarlet coral]

Rotate not automatically moving rotated ops to dorm is kinda cringe

[fluid pollen]

Rotate button itself is just useless.

[stuck crow]

i mean if you actually use the rotate button

just press "rest" after that

since it only rotates 0 morale i thought

[stoic spoke]

No

Because if they implement it without accounting for staggered rotations, it will be more painful to bring the operators back from dorm to their staggered position

Staggered in the sense:
First 12hr operators : a, b, c
Next 12hr : b, c, d, while a rests

[onyx vale]

has this button been updated on CN to cycle next group or is it still group with most morale left?

[whole tapir]

best I can do is 30%

[stuck crow]

no quartz no exu?

[radiant sable]

Chat how bad is it

[stuck crow]

very bad
replace shu

[radiant sable]

I did

[pale yoke]

i wonder what a auto rotation report look like

[radiant cliff]

Is two of Bobbing dorm skill stacks?

Nvm, it's the strongest effect that take effect.

[wise sorrel]

Any combo for exp that isn't this? to rotate them

And not these guys because they are already working on another 2 factories

[pale yoke]

flametail team, look at pin 4

[onyx vale]

is Bryophyta worth E2 ticket or should i just wait a couple weeks/months it would take to E2 him?

[round lichen]

What is the opportunity cost?

Imo guards are the highest priority for any instant E2

[onyx vale]

it's just for his base skill mostly, don't have any other 5 stars atm that interest me too much

[round lichen]

I mean, who is the next-best option for the E2 ticket

[onyx vale]

prob highmore, but i'm waiting for the IS3 diff update before i play her

[round lichen]

Yeah I’d go for Bryo

[main yew]

what is the best way to complain to the devs about the state of the game? i had enough with this R-i-i-c UI, i did NOT HIT THE STUPID BUTTON and yet i come back with stupid things in my dorm, then when moving things around flammetta got mistakenly triggered on something that is unhelpful. where is the ETA on when ops are fully rested anyway? the timer? this UI sucks

[maiden wave]

the timer was moved to the overview, you have to click the dorm bar and it'll show up on the left

[main yew]

i have no clue what that means, i click on them in the dorm and there is no timer when it used to be there

i really need to know when flammeta is done this is getting me really mad on the general agggervation on this poorly deginged UI

[fluid pollen]

There’s a button on the top left stating overview. If you click on it you’ll be able to select between facilities and dorms, same place you do presets. If you click on one of the dorms it’ll tell you how long ops take to recover.

As for random ops ending up in your dorms, in my experience that doesn’t happen, so chances are you might’ve accidentally clicked a couple times.

[maiden wave]

or you press the rest button ig

[fluid pollen]

As for the UI, I think it feels much better than the original, removing a bunch of scrolling putting in ops manually whilst splitting the dorms and facs.

The viable complaints basically stem from the fact you should be able to disable the rotate button, and there having to be no reason to remove dorm resting times from clicking dorms manually.

That said all base rotations should be done in overview anw.

[main yew]

thats your view, i find the 2 different tabs stupid and wastes time, i really wish they had an option to allow us to select the layout, im happy some people like the new layout but i dont

[broken canyon]

https://i.imgur.com/V4rczW0.png

what have i done to deserve this

hows the weather from up there, max lefters

[fluid pollen]

Well uty, it seems objectively faster in the sense that it’s effectively the same concept but without the scrolling. I rotate base every day for the past few years. Would not go back.

[stuck crow]

 Honestly I just wish they stop doing skills that are like "for each blonde sarkaz in your base, gain +1 "blonde hair is lit", for each 2 "blonde hair is lit", gain a "can I put a wig". each "can I put a wig" raise factory production by 2% when Meteorite is in the command center".

Just...make more simple skills.

some crazy thoughts

another person complaining about similar thing with stuff like Mr Nothing, seemingly not realizing how shit it would be if ops had "30 prod" skills on everything

[jaunty notch]

Yeah make it boring so people who don’t read can understand

[fluid pollen]

Put simple numbers and people still can’t count.

[stuck crow]

~~people think mizuki's skill is hard to comprehend ~~

[fluid pollen]

Literacy rates.

[onyx vale]

bro u literally have to be Einstein to figure that shit out, 5 + 5 + 5, that's like 7 5's ain't nobody doing that arithmetic, i just wanna look at my ops play in the dorms

[round lichen]

I can kind of see where they’re coming from, the game provides no tutorials or indices on how to put together combos, so a player who isn’t using community resources has to independently catalog every skill they see. The fun part of base is making rotations, but when you don’t have Gato’s doc, that fun is complicated by the need to create a mental encyclopedia of every possible skill, e.g. Purestream’s interaction with automation skills

Of course you can easily fix this problem by just… using the guide

[uncut dome]

Fixed

[fluid pollen]

Elo.

[fluid pollen]

Even with the guide some people just come looking for answers to very simple arithmetic questions. Sometimes you’d wish that they’d just try to figure out that 35% > 34% or like things like Vulcan shouldn’t be touched before e2.

Making good rotations is like a learning thing but as least don’t show up with a 3 op 50% fac.

[pale yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-fern-doubt-question-gif-152282018435679963

[pale yoke]

Me doomposting

[uncut dome]

[fluid pollen]

Resting AH.

[uncut dome]

More like resting Gladiia

[pale yoke]

so many ops to rest

always not enough spot in dorm

[uncut dome]

We actually need amother dorm tbh

[pale yoke]

the cn new recreation room does count right?

[jaunty notch]

Lol take a guess

[uncut dome]

It doesn't iirc

[pale yoke]

ew

[uncut dome]

Just some trust shit

[pale yoke]

y they hate us

[jaunty notch]

But hey you get to move them around the base

[pale yoke]

[jaunty notch]

Something literally nobody asked for

[pale yoke]

i would rather play RA

and i dont even want to play RA

[jaunty notch]

But hey since each room gives 250 trust with no power req, 252 can put out another giant turd on 243’s face

[pale yoke]

lol 252 always bullying 243

just like zyf always bully me

[jaunty notch]

True zyf bullies me too

[pale yoke]

we hate zyf

[jaunty notch]

That’s why I’m zyf’s no2 hater

But real talk either hg gave up on trying to make 243 better

Or they just don’t play their game

[pale yoke]

honestly base skill need a revamp

[jaunty notch]

I’m leaning on 2nd

[jaunty notch]

So i can jump off a cliff?

[pale yoke]

i can see why they put the skill class in dorm (because AH) but all it is to say that they wasn't planning ahead when they were making those skills

before the new base you need to search out AH team and others like durin

now easier to find them at the cost of whatever this bs is

[jaunty notch]

Yeah fosho let’s revamp 1/3 of the cast base skills which is over 100

[pale yoke]

just give us back filter

[jaunty notch]

I mean just a player can figure out what is good

But hg base department

[uncut dome]

[uncut dome]

[pale yoke]

One day this will be relevant

[uncut dome]

She's already relevant

[pale yoke]

[jaunty notch]

Yeah lit could just use wp too

[pale yoke]

Literally one extra step to be worse

[jaunty notch]

But hey at least she’s not shu

Haha e0 morale reduction

Haha 1/3 wp

[uncut dome]

You haven't seen the 11/6.5/6.5 rotation yet, trust

Tho I will actually be using Jieyun when Yu comes when I max out CY

[jaunty notch]

Could have just give her a +10 at e0 and she’d be useful

Only time where jy’s useful

[pale yoke]

shu more like STAY IN TRAINING ROOM