#r-i-i-c

1 messages · Page 4 of 1

orchid bane
#

Dang. I misclick already

twin garnet
orchid bane
#

We don't have the option to lock some Dorm OP in dorm yet right ?

sudden token
#

Your shifts look fine. But you have nobody working the factory at the moment.

vague finch
#

before starting the work

#

just wanted to know if the rotations are correct

peak heron
#

if i automatically switch someone into dorm with the new rest ops function while fiammetta is in there, does her base skill apply or does it have to be manual

#

wait actually i can prob test

sudden token
#

Can't say for 100%, but my experience with general rest swaps says that if Fiammetta has full morale she'll just be removed from the dorm

peak heron
#

oh yeah it does LOL

#

ok thanks

sudden token
#

This rework is so shit for advanced users that I think my blood pressure is legitimately up. I hate this thing

#

Removal of filters makes any sort of manual swapping makes everything take a minimum of twice as long to do.

little osprey
arctic prism
#

ahhhhhh my dorm workers

novel pier
#

Is there no possible way to stagger this?? I think I’m one formation off from it being possible

#

I spend the last 30 min trying for nothing💀

leaden grove
#

You have 3 presets. If you have more than 3 teams then you need to do it manually

novel pier
#

If only hg could have gave 1 more preset SkadiDaijoubu

#

I finally gave up on my r6 siege team too after 4 years using this update as a excuse to be more efficient and this is the result RedOmegaLul

inner ocean
#

goddammit

#

ok they rearranged overview

#

to be loads better

#

by putting all factories together

#

and all TPs together

pale wind
#

why we cant lock operators in dorms? is it because that would be considered cruelty?

inner ocean
#

i have to update my excel...

arctic prism
#

bc I rearranged my facilities to do this on their own

#

but now tp is below factory

inner ocean
#

same

#

wait no

#

the thing is

#

I just designed my excel sheet to mimic the overview layous

arctic prism
#

oh lol

inner ocean
#

like so.

#

except i swapped Workshop and Dorm because of alignment

#

now its time i change this

arctic prism
#

ah makes sense lol

sudden token
inner ocean
#

i just wished there's more than 3 presets

#

cause i still have to revise presets if i move to 3 EXP -> 3 Gold -> 3 EXP setups

stone roost
#

Does anyone here just have a optimal setup using the new features and systems that I can copy

#

I have all operators. I can E2 whatever i might actually not have E2 already.

inner ocean
#

Nate, if you're talking about using the OVERALL rotation button

#

highly not recommended

#

cause it means you're doing only 12 hr rotations on everything

#

or it could be 24 hr rotation

stone roost
#

I've reset my entire base for this update .. and now I'm honestly not sure what to do. And since I just did a full reset, it would suck if I set it up wrong now and have to reset it again.

inner ocean
#

but everyone shares the same sleep time, which is rough for dorms

stone roost
#

My base just sitting there empty.

arctic prism
#

^ the people here wont be using a lot of the new systems because our previous manual rotations were much more efficient

inner ocean
#

do you not have a base rotation sheet?

#

we just do the same thing as before

#

except we now have easy presets

#

so many clicks turned to 2 clicks per room

stone roost
inner ocean
#

damn

#

then do it by memory

#

if you remember it

arctic prism
#

lol

stone roost
#

I was asking before if I can still just copy Gatos stuff for example and how to utilize the presets in the most ideal way for this

stone roost
arctic prism
#

i mean if you really want to use the whole base switch button you can set up 2 presets of your highest %s and swap between those 2
can use the pins for reference for best combos

inner ocean
stone roost
#

To be fair, I'm not running any of these crazy 7.5H rotations or anything

#

So not that impressive.

inner ocean
#

remembering all of these.....is impossible for me

#

3 EXP 3 gold respectively

#

Nate, I'm only running 12 hr visits

stone roost
#

I mean .. have u tried? I probably used Gatos sheet for a few weeks when I started

#

But repitition is one hell of a drug

#

After a few weeks I had it all memorized

#

And since looking it up constantly is annoying and agitating

#

That feeds your memory further to live without it

inner ocean
#

i have it on my phone

#

as an image i can keep crossing out per visit

stone roost
#

At least not with the prests.

inner ocean
#

what makes Gato's easier to memorize is because his rotation can be slimmed down to 6 shifts

#

mine needs to be 12

#

cause I'm doing 36 hr shifts in some of mine

#

so having some do 36 and others do 12 leads to 12 shifts before an entire cycle happens

stone roost
#

I usually get fed up with base rotating eventually, I always do

#

And then I just set up something like 12 hour shifts with the best in slot teams for each facility

#

And if this update isn't making the process drastically easier, I'm bound to get fed up again sooner than later

#

lol.

stone roost
inner ocean
#

i mean it's obvious if you're used to seeing text-based shifts

#

what has bold colors and bold text is a changed shift

#

what's muted colors and non bolded text is retaining the previous shift

uncut dome
#

Hmm time to make a good rotation for 1 tap switching but I'll do it when I wake upBPCozy

arctic prism
stone roost
inner ocean
#

wait no its not difficult

#

if you only do 24 hr shifts

#

as a max for everything

stone roost
#

So in essence, we can't use the new QoL stuff to make any of the most optimal setups any easier to rotate.

inner ocean
#

we can't yeah

stone roost
#

That's agitating.

arctic prism
#

we wont be able to hit anywhere close to ideal setups with this update because we're limited to 3 presets

#

yea

stone roost
#

I reset my base for nothing.

inner ocean
#

the rest automation only works for 0 morale ops

uncut dome
#

It won't be the most optimal but the goal is to find the optimal rotation while making use of the qol

inner ocean
#

something we tend to avoid

#

we still got a win

#

presets is huge QoL

stone roost
#

Is it? I don't see how. Some of Gatos setups use like 7 presets

rough steppe
arctic prism
#

also the fact that the switch button doesnt switch just to the next preset and instead finds one that doesnt use any of your currently used ops is annoying af

stone roost
#

Presets seem worthless for complex setups .. or even just setups that switch singular operators

inner ocean
#

NGL having dorms be separate means it's easier for me to isolate and use Fia's dorm

desert quail
#

Wtf, why was the timer that showed when a factory worker would stop working removed? JessNotLikeThis

uncut dome
inner ocean
#

the best setups do 36 hr shifts which still leads to only 2 presets

#

even mine that does absurd optimal relocations

stone roost
#

Really?

#

Hmm.

inner ocean
#

don't do more than 4

arctic prism
#

yea for the most part 4~6 are the same as 1~3

inner ocean
#

so the 3 presets suit me well

#

well here's the thing, Nate

stone roost
#

Well, would any of u share ur presets with me so I can get an idea of a decent setup

#

I'm running on empty a bit right now

inner ocean
#

.....i cannot use the ROTATE-ALL button

#

i have to manually pick the preset per room

stone roost
#

I mean.. that still is a bit faster though

arctic prism
#

mine is gonna be useless to you bc im on 153
also my rotations are wack

inner ocean
#

Zyf plans to make ROTATE ALL be workable

#

so ask him

#

if you prefer that QoL

stone roost
#

I don't necessarily need to use rotate all

inner ocean
#

it does lead to only 24 hr shifts max

stone roost
#

Having to press one button per facility is already a huge step up

#

In terms of time saved

inner ocean
#

oh yeah

stone roost
#

And SANITY.

inner ocean
#

another thing to consider

#

I CANNOT PRESET AH SQUAD

#

that's manual still

stone roost
#

Huh

arctic prism
#

you cant?

stone roost
#

Why?

inner ocean
#

3 presets already full

arctic prism
#

lol

stone roost
#

Bitter

inner ocean
#

like i said

#

we're stuck with only 3

#

they half assed us

arctic prism
#

even just 1 more preset would be huge for me

#

but noooooo

stone roost
#

Dorms have to be done manual still though, right

#

No way around it.

arctic prism
#

yep

stone roost
#

Sigh

#

Hypergryph why

rough steppe
inner ocean
#

that automates every ops in 0 morale to dorm

arctic prism
#

if you're using dorm workers it'll chuck them all out

inner ocean
#

useless for most of us

stone roost
inner ocean
#

detrimental to a lot of us

#

due to dead lancet

stone roost
#

like .. full Fiametta being pulled

arctic prism
#

also will throw lancet in there

stone roost
#

Perma dorm workes getting killed

#

dead robot being revived

inner ocean
#

the QoL mostly helps the laziest players

arctic prism
#

^

inner ocean
#

those that....don't visit here

#

the ones that leave ops to 0 morale

stone roost
#

viable without too many losses tbh

#

i've done this a long time

#

i know that at least my lmd was still around 50k+

#

perfect rotations get to what .. 65k ish?

#

usually when i go into hibernation mode and only log on once a day, i utilize 24h rotations

inner ocean
#

Might be annoying to do it thrice a day (1 from AH transition), but the results are worth it (3 EXP right now)

#

wait this ain't even my best results

#

I've missed 2 AH transitions (2 days)

stone roost
#

Yeah, around 65K

#

What I thought

#

I guess u can get even a bit higher?

inner ocean
#

just a bit

#

with AH squad helping

#

but i missed AH squad due to maintenance....and due to playing Dead Cells too much and forgot

arctic prism
#

when i was running 252 lmd average was roughly 71k iirc

inner ocean
#

also

stone roost
#

i've not ever seen a screenshot with 70K+ lmd in my life

inner ocean
#

it might've affected it but

#

I used a LOt of drones recently

#

to make dual chips

rough steppe
arctic prism
#

i guess you havent been around here often then bc 70k is low

inner ocean
#

we're talking 80 drones for 4 dual chips

#

multiple times i did that recently

arctic prism
#

that was without curse

inner ocean
stone roost
#

I come here usually every couple months if I'm doing vast, big changes to my base .. or full resets, implementing new operators, or updated gato rotations, etc.

#

so im not here that often, no

#

but i think this is still my second most used channel nonetheless BlitzSmile

#

I have E2'ed more operators for base than for actual gameplay

#

so i consider myself a #r-i-i-c sleeper resident

inner ocean
#

Nate i only visit here everytime CN gets new ops

#

just to check up if there's someone new that can be added to my rotation

stone roost
#

same

inner ocean
#

so far, none....nothing interesting past Thornstar

#

in a way that's good news for me

#

less pulls to do

stone roost
#

I once updated my entire base to add Hoederer in proviso rotation

#

Just for gato to nuke that change a few weeks later

inner ocean
#

either way

#

this is preset shit is great

#

its annoying to memorize where each operator is sometimes

stone roost
#

true

inner ocean
#

even worse when the operator doesn't work off of numbers

stone roost
#

i guess one useful thing to come from this at least.

inner ocean
#

so they're farther from the scroll

#

Weedy Purestream is annoying due to how far apart they are

#

unfortunate that TR and Workshop don't have presets

#

but oh well

tired rampart
#

Is there any way to see how long a unit has until they're exhausted now? I can't seem to find it after this latest update

hushed charm
#

do the presets work with stuff like kafka ceobe scene etc? like it doesnt reset their productivity/efficiency?

inner ocean
#

no issue, is what i remember

hushed charm
#

ayt cool tyty

inner ocean
#

just click the room

#

problem is it doesn't work on everything

#

CC doesn't

#

neither does RR

#

only works on Factories, TP, and HR

#

is what I'm seeing

tired rampart
#

Thank you!

eager breach
#

where is my not assigned selection wtf

#

now its just class side bar

#

so useless

inner ocean
#

lulz

#

you gotta adjust with searching ops now

#

they changed stuff

eager breach
#

and this rest op button is so useless

hushed charm
#

just realized base still in beta TexasDumb

inner ocean
#

hmmm, i think i could get used to how neat it is to have everything be arranged together

eager breach
#

I click on rest op and then all my arene fodder kicked out my morale restorer

inner ocean
#

easier to measure Arene reqs too

inner ocean
#

REST ALL is useless to us since it only works on 0 morale

#

including Dead Lancet

eager breach
#

do you put it to 0 morale

inner ocean
#

yes

#

it's part of a combo

#

to keep Lancet at 0

#

always

eager breach
#

I need lancet for weedy

inner ocean
#

Eun + Greyy Alter combo works together

#

if Lancet is at 0 in a PP room

eager breach
#

grey alter?

inner ocean
#

Eun still counts Lancet being there

#

Greyy Alter doesn't consider Lancet being there due to 0 morale

#

weird interaction

#

but it works in our favor

arctic prism
#

This is about as close as I found to average day
Was December 2023 for context

eager breach
inner ocean
#

this is the whole combo

#

CC has Eun for me

#

Factory has Weedy and Pure

#

PP has Greyy Alter and Lancet (0 morale)

#

boom

eager breach
# inner ocean

ok I guess you could just lancet be on 0 morale anyways, but at the cost of 10% drone production right?

inner ocean
#

not just 10%

#

you're nullifying the entire PP's production

#

since 0 morale piloting means the entire room can't function at all

#

still worth it

rough steppe
#

That's where I would put my E2 Eunectes, if I had one.

eager breach
inner ocean
#

indeed

eager breach
#

oh yeah

inner ocean
#

what i meant is the room itself

#

has a default prod

#

without anyone being there

#

that is also nullified iirc if you use Dead Lancet

eager breach
#

I'm pretty sure powerplant produce without people

#

I remember back in the day I don't bother putting ppl in

inner ocean
#

no clue. all i know is

#

it's worth doing

#

the maffs were already done and asked by past me

#

i just trust my past self's hard work

#

i don't get this

#

i guess the number of idle ops with this status that's not in dorms?

inner ocean
#

cause it ain't counting Dead Lancet

arctic prism
rough steppe
inner ocean
#

fucking hell, it's in the tabs. I just need to avoid clicking that...

arctic prism
#

the base report numbers only count up to the stuff that you claim on that day, not what you actually produced in that day

fading juniper
#

I'm out of rhine lab ops, who can I put here with ptilopsis

inner ocean
#

that's my girl, Nian.
Arene and Nian are not letting me down recently.

fading juniper
#

This base rework is so nice but I don't have a 3rd preset lol

#

||252
Priority: As much money as possible, exp is kinda shafted, so whatever I have best will suffice
One lv2 TP and one lv 3 TP
Two lv3 PP
2 lv 2 fac for exp, one lv 3 for exp. and 2 lv 3 fac for gold. Though I prefer having the lv 2 for exp and 3s for metal for consistency.
2 shift cycles, not active enough to do more.

🟢 Cycle 1, CC: yato alter, CE, walter, amiya, noir corne E2
🔵 TP: Proviso with terra research commission
🔵 Tequila bibeak shamare all E2
🟡 Factory: assorted flavors of rhine lab ops
🟡 Ceobe, vermeil, scene E2 (exp)
🟡 vulcan E2 bubble, bena
PP: ifrit, muelsyse
🟠 RR: Ines or some shit

🟢 Cycle 2 CC: Mlynar, Vivi, Flametail, Kaltsit, Eunectes all E2.
🔵TP: Pozy, tuye E2, kirara E0
🔵 Proviso, Vigil
🟡 Fac: gravel, bryophyta, haze gold
🟡 weedy purestream golf
🟡 mizuki, jessica, vanilla?
Ashlock and Wildmane E2

PP: whatever as long as justice knight is in one of 'em

These are my 2 base cycles I am trying to optimize without nian/chongus, pallas, ebenholz or rosmontis.||

This is copy pasted

arctic prism
inner ocean
#

you can make a 3-preset constant ROTATE ALL work

#

you just need to set your presets well for 24 hr shifts

#

just like you make the excel sheets

fading juniper
#

I can't predict when I'll go online

#

So I'm just asking for bare minimum

#

I have ptilopsis for my 3rd preset and wondering what to put her with

arctic prism
inner ocean
#

ROTATE ALL usage means you abandon 36 hr shifts

#

which i won't

#

...why didn't they just add 4-5 presets.....

arctic prism
#

they got no riic nerds working on their base update ig

inner ocean
#

agreed considering all their efforts to make 243 better also makes 252 way better

arctic prism
#

lol yea

fading juniper
#

Anyone?

arctic prism
#

huh?

onyx sierra
#

I don't seem to be getting the abyssal hunter factory bonus from using spalter unlike the other abyssals

#

Does anyone else experience this?

fluid pollen
#

Specter2 isn’t considered ah.

arctic prism
#

spalter (and any other alters) are counted as "alter"s instead of their normal grouping

inner ocean
#

Any Alter doesn't count on base combos that ain't titled "Alter"

#

this includes Silence Alter

arctic prism
#

hg doing everything in their power to stop us from getting more abyssals for base HellaHands

inner ocean
#

Specter Alter, etc.

onyx sierra
inner ocean
#

we just need 1 more AH to be put in dorms

#

to make Gladiia not end herself faster

main yew
#

is there a setting to make the dorms work before the update? im getting sick and tired of it picking ops to rest THAT I DONT WANT TO REST and it taking out my resting boosting ops and other bonus OPs to other arteas

arctic prism
#

honestly just give me a ling equivalent to chuck in cc and im a happy man

#

or like a waaifu but for cc

main yew
#

why is it putting ops in my DORM thati dont want it doing

#

how do i make it stop doing it

arctic prism
#

you dont lol

main yew
#

?

arctic prism
#

just have to not press the button

inner ocean
#

there's no "going back" from this

main yew
#

im confused

inner ocean
#

whatever ain't there anymore

#

will not return

arctic prism
#

the "Rest Ops" button in the notifications

onyx sierra
#

So I want to run dead lancet, but I can't be bothered to make sure she doesn't get put into the dorms. Is the best way to have one of my power plants permanently have lancet in it by having a single rotation with lancet?

arctic prism
#

you're not allowed to press it

main yew
#

i am not pressing anything, its putting ops in dorm without me doing it

arctic prism
#

you probably pressed this^

main yew
#

pressed what

fluid pollen
arctic prism
#

you know how you collect your factory stuff and your tp orders right?

#

if you tap those too fast you accidentally press the "Rest Ops" button

#

and then your dorms get fucked

inner ocean
#

Never use this if 0 Morale Lancet is idling waiting for their shift.

main yew
#

uh.. why does that exist? its kinda hard when you are trying to tap the morle thing and collect thing

inner ocean
inner ocean
#

almost 99% of AK players let their ops get to 0 morale

arctic prism
main yew
#

there is no setting/ option jsut to return to how it looked before? this ui is.. like why is the dorm split from the factorys ? i have to keep hitting this like 5 times

inner ocean
#

and would just be willing to rotate all

#

cause they don't care too much for optimal prod

inner ocean
#

rotate preset everyone

fading juniper
#

I don't think she's E2 though

inner ocean
#

and then visit dorm to put every tired ops there

arctic prism
#

if for muelsyse, put them in dorms, not in the factory
if for dorothy you don't need anyone else than those 3

#

mayer doesnt count toward dorothy's skill

inner ocean
#

...she does

arctic prism
#

but she's 30% anyways so same thing

inner ocean
#

well

#

wait

arctic prism
#

she does not

inner ocean
#

for Mumu count

#

my bad

fading juniper
#

I have mumu in pp

inner ocean
#

Mayer tends to not be with Doro

arctic prism
#

do you not have better factory ops? if you do you can just leave them in the dorm instead

inner ocean
#

but she helps Mumu count so she's always somewhere where Doro isn't

arctic prism
#

ops in dorm count toward mumu

inner ocean
#

I still use Mayer in a factory

#

during Mumu shift

fading juniper
#

Well I've been putting this stuff and pasting my entire 2-rotation process for the past half a fucking year and nobody told me anything like that.

#

I ask them, every time, what can I do with what I have and they tell me "yeah that's ok Just E2 x character"

arctic prism
#

also even if you did need to use the rhine lab ops in factories bc dorms are full, the 5% pp gain you get from mumu isnt worth if you can get even +5% factory by not using her

inner ocean
#

here?

fading juniper
#

Now I have an E2 tuye, Vulcan and scene

#

Yes, here

arctic prism
#

%pp is worth roughly half of other facility %'s
it's a little higher than that if you're using drones on proviso tp but that's it

fading juniper
#

I pasted my process today too from a little bit of scrolling

inner ocean
#

who are the guys telling you to do that?
did you bother asking them which TP combo to go for?

#

cause no fucking one would ever recommend you to use E2 Tuye

#

as for Vulcan and Scene

fading juniper
#

They did lol

inner ocean
#

Scene's solid with Verm EXP

#

Vulcan's....a weak sub now these days

arctic prism
#

yea idk who you talked to but likely werent the regulars on this channel

fading juniper
#

Tuye With Kirara and pozy

main yew
#

i really hate this new ui

arctic prism
inner ocean
#

Momoka, you'll appreciate it once you get used to it

#

I am already liking it

fading juniper
#

And 2nd rotation is the classic shamare one

fading juniper
fading juniper
#

I think it was only if I had a specific level dorm though, so nvm

arctic prism
#

ah probably talked to someone trying to sell pozy combo as something better than what it really is lol
pozy combo is fine but isnt reallly something i would recommend to other people unless you really had no better options

#

id just take a look at pin 4 and it should give you all the info you need

fading juniper
#

Ok then, I guess I'm asking for the 50th time what's the best 2-cycle that requires the least maintenance

#

Not your fault ofc

arctic prism
#

lol for that one we won't know unless we create the rotation ourselves too since it's not a rotation we use ourselves

fading juniper
#

I've pasted my current process

inner ocean
#

iirxc

fading juniper
#

I can paste it again if you want

inner ocean
#

Poze Tuye combo is only worth it

#

when doing 4-5 gold base

#

which is not recommended

fading juniper
#

Darn.

fading juniper
#

Then if you can adjust this as you see fit

arctic prism
#

he was saying he needs to take some time later to come up with a rotation

inner ocean
#

btw did you read up on this?

#

If there were 4 fucking presets

#

i would've made an easy ROTATE ALL

#

but naaaah

#

oh wait

fading juniper
#

I've read it a lot of times but it just isn't helping

inner ocean
#

my bad

#

it wouldn't work

#

i need 12 fucking presets

#

to make a lazy setup for mine

fading juniper
#

||252
Priority: As much money as possible, exp is kinda shafted, so whatever I have best will suffice
One lv2 TP and one lv 3 TP
Two lv3 PP
2 lv 2 fac for exp, one lv 3 for exp. and 2 lv 3 fac for gold. Though I prefer having the lv 2 for exp and 3s for metal for consistency.
2 shift cycles, not active enough to do more.

🟢 Cycle 1, CC: yato alter, CE, walter, amiya, noir corne alter E1 (should be E2ed)
🔵 TP: Proviso with terra research commission
🔵 Tequila bibeak shamare all E2
🟡 Factory: assorted flavors of rhine lab ops
🟡 Ceobe, vermeil, scene (exp)
🟡 vulcan, bubble, bena (vulcan E1, needs E2)
PP: ifrit, muelsyse
🟠 RR: Ines or some shit

🟢 Cycle 2 CC: Mlynar, Vivi, Flametail, Kaltait, Eunectes all E2.
🔵TP: Pozy, tuye E2, kirara E0
🔵 Proviso, Vigil
🟡 Fac: gravel, bryophyta, haze gold
🟡 weedy purestream golf
🟡 mizuki, jessica, vanilla?
Ashlock and Wildmane E2

PP: whatever as long as justice knight is in one of 'em

These are my 2 base cycles I am trying to optimize without nian/chongus, pallas, aroma, fartooth, hoederer, siege alt, ebenholz or rosmontis. I also would rather not do dead lancet strat.||

#

There it is

#

Is is lmao

#

It doesn't even have all of the factory presets on it

inner ocean
#

one question

#

who the fuck is that guy

#

who told you this shit?

arctic prism
#

^

#

lmao

#

there are a few pozy merchants in here occasionally tho so im not all that surprised

inner ocean
#

and are those Tuye merchants also using WALTER in CC?

fading juniper
#

I don't remember, I think spacejamflam in particular told me that I need a good dorm level, I don't remember who specifically did though

inner ocean
#

a good fucking base

vale cypress
#

How to maintain dorm operators like lumen when clicking the rest button?

inner ocean
#

doesn't need dorm level requirements

fading juniper
inner ocean
#

don't use it if you want to use dorm ops

vale cypress
fading juniper
#

Take your time, I'll be going back to work, looking forward to having my catastrophe reworked

arctic prism
stuck crow
#

...there's no button to empty dorms now?

fading juniper
#

Are there any other important non-limiteds?

#

That I left out?

arctic prism
#

yeah but like you probably dont have glasglow team all e2'd for example

fading juniper
#

Then I can E2 them if it's the best for low maintenance 2 cycle

stuck crow
#

i can go into individual dorm and "select all" but like come on, why remove the button at all

inner ocean
#

ok whoever recommended Walter in CC are doing it for those that don't have all the optimal shit

#

is what I'm seeing

#

and your entire setup is a work in progress from all the advices you got

fading juniper
#

Yeah I don't have the optimal, missing many limiteds

inner ocean
#

no single person

#

recommended the entire package you're showing

#

then there's no issue until you get better shit

fading juniper
#

Well I ain't gonna spark limiteds lol

inner ocean
#

a different way to do it

#

but you're going inside dorm to pick the tired ops anyway

#

so thats what i do now

humble jacinth
#

Can someone remind me what I'm doing wrong regarding dead lancet team?

CC using Eunectus, PP is Grey Alt + Dead Lancet, Lv2 factory is Purestream and Weedy

I could have sworn I would get a bonus of +1.15, but it's showing +0.77 instead

stuck crow
inner ocean
#

is Lancet Dead?

stuck crow
#

extra clicks

inner ocean
#

are any of them not E2?

humble jacinth
#

Yes

inner ocean
#

1 click for Deselect All

#

inside the dorm room itself

humble jacinth
#

The required ones are E2

inner ocean
#

my dude i used remove all

#

it makes you click PER ROOM

inner ocean
#

the only changes now is you Deselect ALL inside a dorm room

#

still 1 click

stuck crow
#

now you do extra click per dorm, because you need to click Confirm after deselecting all

inner ocean
#

Hauc

#

be efficient

stuck crow
#

remove all didn't need confirmation click, no

inner ocean
#

Deselect All -> put tired ops -> confirm

#

do i have to make a video, Hauc?

stuck crow
#

i don't need to put tired ops

humble jacinth
inner ocean
#

my dude, you let your dorm be empty after Remove All?

stuck crow
#

i need to REMOVE them
and it's now harder by 4 clicks

humble jacinth
#

I put gold on bottom and it's now not

inner ocean
#

you remove them for a reason

stuck crow
#

this button may as well be read as "make arene and stainless into 20% byproduct workers"

inner ocean
#

Before: Remove All -> do your business with that dorm
Now: Deselect All -> do your business with that dorm

stuck crow
#

why would i let them regen morale

#

anyway

inner ocean
#

no one in here will ever use Rest Ops

#

it's for players that never do optimal base

fading juniper
#

I updated some E1 to E2

stuck crow
#

the ":rotate full base" button also is useless right

inner ocean
#

depends

#

if you ONLY do 24-hr shifts

#

it's possible you can create your entire setup with just 3 presets

#

and thus....make Rotate ALL work for you

#

EXCEPT AH squad transition

stuck crow
#

doesn't it only rotate tired ops

#

your ops won't get tired

inner ocean
#

rotate uses presets

#

it will use ALL the presets

#

in order

stuck crow
#

ok, before i do this (first preset is like above)

inner ocean
#

is how i reckon it works

#

rotate all doesn't touch dorms

#

thats for rest all

stuck crow
#

if i do second into third into first preset

#

will scene ramp up persist

#

or did they code it differently

inner ocean
#

i mean

#

if our ruling before is if they are still in the same slot

#

it's fine

stuck crow
#

i figured you don't know

inner ocean
#

like

#

even if they coded it so it resets when presets are used

stuck crow
#

but it does work

inner ocean
#

will you go out of your way to manual it?

#

i wouldn't

arctic prism
# fading juniper I updated some E1 to E2

i need to get back to work been slacking for a little too long but if you really want I can send you a rotation sometime later today, probably in like the next 12 hrs

inner ocean
#

i don't know the answer. Wonder if Gato knows

stuck crow
#

btw since you're base expert!

#

how do i fit silencer + doro here and don't nuke prod

inner ocean
#

@jaunty notch Do presets not affect ramp up reset as long as ops are in the same slots?

stuck crow
#

i don't like using 30% worker like mizuki

stuck crow
stuck crow
inner ocean
#

does that include Tailoring?

stuck crow
#

scene works cause i can see her numbers

inner ocean
#

that requires some maffs that can't be done day 1

stuck crow
#

i'm not testing tailoring

inner ocean
#

indeed

#

thats why i ask Gato

#

he knows CN players and testing

stuck crow
#

well i mean with our previous assumptions it worked the same as scene
and since scene doesn't reset her ramp, why would tailoring

inner ocean
#

anyways

#

about your setup

#

i literally can't help you since my setup is HR1

#

our setup couldn't be any more different

#

all i can recommend is

#

your bubble vulcan is the weakest sub

stuck crow
#

but the base knowledge transcends base setups!

inner ocean
#

maybe see if you can improve that with Rhine subs

stuck crow
#

yeah i was thinking about removing it but everything else also kinda sucks

#

rhine can only go 95% in 3 slots anyway right LappDumb

inner ocean
#

it's worse

stuck crow
#

yeah, no arguing here

#

still using shitty 30% mizuki, ouch

inner ocean
#

i still do for mine too

#

wait no

#

mine uses combo of Mizuki + Jessalter BS

#

so its a 100%

stuck crow
#

jessalter seems not worth the slot in cc honestly

#

but why is yours only 100%

inner ocean
#

depends on the setup

#

100% on ALL

#

almond is separate room

stuck crow
#

isn't almond herself like...

#

huh

inner ocean
#

still, the entire Jessalter team is removed for AH transitions

#

unless it's 6 hr maintenance time

#

in which case they get the entire shift

#

but yeah, there's a lot of asterisks here as to why they're still valuable to me. I have more slots + I can't use full power of Rosmontis combo

#

so at best Ling and CY only lasts for 1 shift to avoid Dusk usage for Mr Nothing combo

#

thus i got Jessalter on every other shift which is changed midway by AH squad

past kettle
#

How do I enable the rotate feature? Don't I just need to put presets in all rooms? Or does it only work when the current assigned operators are fatigued?

long wren
#

Am I crazy

#

Or do we meed more presets SkadiDaijoubu

#

This ain't working out chief

stuck crow
#

3 is usually fine (like you can work with it) but for something like tailoring it kinda sucks

#

at least they gave 3 and not 2...

#

dorm presets would've been good

#

but uhhh, yeah

tiny mist
#

Huge fan of the base changes

#

Need more presets but ye

tiny mist
#

Am vibing

inner ocean
#

I mean

tiny mist
inner ocean
#

if I had my way

#

i want 12 fucking presets

#

so i cna just do my entire cycle rotation

#

with the only extra clicks being Fia swaps and AH transitions

past kettle
round dock
#

don't like the auto rest button

#

is there some way to turn that off?

arctic prism
#

if only the presets were tied to the whole base instead of per facility

inner ocean
tiny mist
inner ocean
#

if you've been doing Dead Lancet all this time

round dock
tiny mist
#

Rest them yourself manually kek

inner ocean
#

you know how to ignore warnings

round dock
#

dead lancet won't rotate in either

past kettle
arctic prism
#

has cn not done that already?

round dock
#

otherwise, I don't hate it, though not seeing the dorms at first was confusing

arctic prism
#

i assume someone over there must have by now lol

fluid pollen
#

Pretty sure they don’t handle their own bases.

#

Zzz……

inner ocean
#

the more it's requested

#

the higher the chance it's heard

stuck crow
#

do you believe yostar listens

long wren
stuck crow
#

or even relays to cn

inner ocean
#

ah yes....2 things to ignore now instead of 1

inner ocean
arctic prism
#

the fatigued operators one you can remove from settings

tiny mist
inner ocean
#

i'll do that

long wren
uncut dome
inner ocean
#

no its fine if multiple people do it

#

thats how feedback is done

#

the more common it's mentioned the better

past kettle
#

Why would you ignore fatigued ops?

stuck crow
#

I'll put a reaction that will be ignored by them out of solidarity

inner ocean
#

whether it happens or not....don't bother waiting

arctic prism
inner ocean
#

Dead Lancet strats mean there's forever gonna be a Fatigued operator tab

long wren
#

Also I have 20 fatigue ops for materials

inner ocean
#

ah there we go

arctic prism
#

that setting has been there since forever btw not from this update

inner ocean
#

yeah i didn't check

past kettle
#

What does dead lancet do?

long wren
#

Rest ops just throws those ones in there

#

Which suck

inner ocean
#

much better

long wren
stuck crow
inner ocean
#

good for non-optimizers

long wren
past kettle
inner ocean
#

Alt

stuck crow
long wren
inner ocean
#

I don't bother doing Arene teams anymore

#

i just use naturally tired ops

long wren
#

I didn't look at it that way

inner ocean
#

after a shift transition

#

if lacking i add tired ops that are still working

long wren
#

I looked at it in terms of rotating ops for base

inner ocean
#

and then bring them back to factory once Arene is done

long wren
#

My ops never get tired SwireKek

#

Enough

stuck crow
long wren
#

There should be a select not to put in rest zone

#

Whatever

#

Lolol

long wren
#

Is there no "not assigned" tab anymore

past kettle
#

Isn't Arene strat too much of a hazzle? That 20 ops would be sht to handle. Just use NCD.

long wren
#

Man why they do this

stuck crow
#

you use all of them

sudden token
#

I only used those two, but I used them all day every day

long wren
#

Darn

past kettle
#

Idk why they put archetypes there instead. It's not even useful.

sudden token
#

Removing those two buttons is making me consider quitting the game, ngl

inner ocean
long wren
#

Remove base as a whole please SwireKek

#

Why is this shit even here

inner ocean
#

i don't know about some of you guys

#

this is great for any actual #r-i-i-c dweller

tiny mist
#

For LMD farming

long wren
#

Nah, we need another wayBnuuy

tiny mist
inner ocean
#

need another way....what? you want more clicks?

#

i'll take my less-clicks, thank you very much

past kettle
stuck crow
tiny mist
inner ocean
#

damn

stuck crow
#

it will tire itself soon enough anyway

inner ocean
#

not using Lancet

tiny mist
#

Why does CE stages even exist though

stuck crow
#

i already am overcapping jusan

#

have mercy

long wren
#

Alternate sanity bar for supply arena only DocSmile@past kettle

past kettle
stuck crow
#

lancet will just nerf my base

inner ocean
#

hush you fools. LS and CE exist for those that raise ALL ops

#

cause base ain't fast enough

inner ocean
#

i actually farm LS and CE sometmies

#

while also doing optimal base

long wren
#

Lol

tiny mist
#

max optimization moment

stuck crow
past kettle
#

Other gacha has that. It's not fking fun.

fluid pollen
#

Say bye bye to red certs and chips.

tiny mist
long wren
fluid pollen
#

Elo hauck. RosHi

past kettle
#

Not just FGO.

inner ocean
#

As an EX-FGO player....

#

you do not want 100% manual farming....

arctic prism
#

^

tiny mist
#

Astolfo existing

arctic prism
#

lottos

tiny mist
#

The whole internet:

arctic prism
#

are pain

tiny mist
#

How in the world

inner ocean
#

i'm iffy about 100% full sweep on everything

#

you know what happens when a game has 100% full sweep?

#

i stop knowing how to play after a while......i dissociate.....and then quit out

#

either way

arctic prism
#

honestly same

inner ocean
#

I'm glad Anni and soon, SSS will be sweep-oriented

past kettle
inner ocean
#

yeah i'm not like you guys

inner ocean
#

I play AK cause of gameplay. the pulls and gambling aspects

#

does nothing for me

arctic prism
#

sss gets skip tickets?

inner ocean
#

i get no pleasure getting 6* in few rolls

#

and i get frustrated when it takes too long

proud sedge
#

hello guys, can i still switch different account using different yostar accs

inner ocean
past kettle
#

Sweep can fck off. What I want more is 4X speed.

arctic prism
tiny mist
inner ocean
#

a LOT worse

tiny mist
#

I'm just here to go for end-game account and maybe finally get Wisadel (even tho she's limited so it's prolly never)

inner ocean
#

do not forget....this is still one of the most intricate autos i've ever seen

#

it really inputs what you did as close as possible

#

it's impressive actually

tiny mist
inner ocean
#

i can imagine making it faster will make desyncs worse than it already is

tiny mist
arctic prism
#

yeah i was genuinely impressed first time i saw

inner ocean
#

our gripes were during

long wren
#

Damn game doesn't even let you swap dead lancet SwireKek

inner ocean
#

seaborn Anni

long wren
#

Fuuuuuck

inner ocean
#

and even Ch6-7 anni

#

back when anni were non-sweep

worthy heart
#

I'm working on setting up my base presets, referencing the base combo guide. A few questions:

  1. Has anyone already condensed these into a clear set of rotations and presets? Would be a huge lifesaver 😅 (Specifically 243 base)
  2. Who do you put with Rosmontis? Just whatever 2 best workers for whatever factory type she's in? Doesn't look like there are other factory workers that specifically combo with her.
  3. What do your CC rotations end up looking like? If I want to do Perception Information + Worldly Plight, looks like I need Dusk/Ling/ChongYue/Saileach, which leaves room for only one other. A TP buffer like Amiya, a factory buffer like Kal'tsit, or someone like Gnosis to do SilverAsh/Jaye/Proviso TP at the same time? Both PI+WP and Proviso setups look extremely efficient, so it seems like it would be good to try to maximize how long that whole chunk is active in the base.
  4. If trying to combine Worldly Plight+Perception Information, is it more optimal to use Mulberry or Whisperain?
tiny mist
arctic prism
#

rng dodge is such an ass mechanic

inner ocean
tiny mist
inner ocean
#

yeah thats an earlier anni

#

but it ain't as rough

arctic prism
uncut dome
#

Yo someone unhides the hidden columns

worthy heart
uncut dome
#

Wait that's actually quite stacked 15 slot factory setup wow

arctic prism
#

saileach is good but a lot of people here stopped using her for bigger base numbers lol

#

if you need the certs though can use sail instead

uncut dome
#

Saileach usage depends on how much you value green and gold certs in general

tiny mist
#

I have yet to do Tequila Shamare combo

#

(They are E0)

#

Dont have Fiametta sadly

#

Only got like Proviso Jaye SilverAsh

#

Then Exusiai Texas Lappy

worthy heart
#

Was gonna call this out. Micromanaging fia for unlimited optimal TPs seems really good, but really tedious.

#

I don't think I can manage more than 2 base interactions per day

proud sedge
#

are there any account lossage in todays update? Some peeps say they lost their accs

tiny mist
#

So idk

#

Oh, its not bad combo?

inner ocean
#

fuck....staying in this channel for too long reminds me of my regrets in doing RR3

worthy heart
#

I went to check the help megathread on reddit for base advice and saw a ton of people there who lost account access

inner ocean
#

LMAO

#

non readers

tiny mist
inner ocean
#

they didn't read Yostar's news shit

#

about acct binding

tiny mist
#

Thankfully I didnt lose my account

arctic prism
#

how
they sent so many notifs for that

tiny mist
#

Cuz ya know, I read it

#

And they kept spamming my inbox

inner ocean
#

goes to show how much people don't read ingame news

worthy heart
tiny mist
#

Binding your account to Yostar

inner ocean
#

do you guys not fucking check the OTHER tabs of ingame news?

tiny mist
#

Ye, well u didnt lose ur account so thats fine

inner ocean
#

every second counts....till you lose your account

#

yeah no

tiny mist
#

Imagine

#

losing

#

your

inner ocean
#

as someone who has 9 accts

tiny mist
#

Wisadel account

inner ocean
#

don't you think about keeping them safe?

#

if so, good for you

#

the moment you have to beg for help in tech support

uncut dome
inner ocean
#

you've already failed

tiny mist
#

Imagine have limited characters in your account that you have now lost because you didn't read the announcements.

inner ocean
#

that means sanity wasted

#

cause it might take longer than 24 hrs

worthy heart
#

I saw successful account recoveries mentioned there, but huge hassle

inner ocean
#

sometimes a LOT more

tiny mist
inner ocean
#

HAHHAHAHAHA TELL THAT TO FGO

#

fucking constant swapping of devices

#

easily makes you lose your entire account just from FGO freezing during the process

#

need to call mommy tech support again

#

sheeesh

#

so fuckign archaic

#

even Brave fucking Frontier has acct binding

#

and that game is older than FGO

stuck crow
#

does fgo still have shitty codes instead of a bloody email binding

inner ocean
#

i didn't hear them add acct bindings

stuck crow
#

i wouldn't be able to find mine even if i tried

inner ocean
#

so i can imagine thats the case still

round dock
#

just dawned on me that using Pozy with only 2 Gold Factories kind of sucks

inner ocean
#

.....wow how long did that take you?

#

we've made it clear af that it takes 4 gold facs before its worth it

ruby moon
#

just wondering is the new presets thing just completely useless if you have a normal rotation

inner ocean
tiny mist
round dock
#

I switched Shamare TP to do AO, and it's only 126%

inner ocean
#

"good".....in the case that Tequila and Proviso doesn't exist

#

you sure?

round dock
#

sub was Delphine/Siege/Vina/Morgan

tiny mist
#

I have intentionally made my base completely empty and have every Ops in Dorms so I can start to prepare the presets with full morale Ops

round dock
inner ocean
#

AO....ok you lost me

#

i cannot fucking relate

tiny mist
#

It's time for me to go ham on base rotations yippee

round dock
tiny mist
#

Gotta wait 8 hours tho

inner ocean
#

ok lets review terms. What's AO again?

#

because i can't remember

ruby moon
#

i know nothing about it other than i tried messing with it with my rec room and it wouldnt let me include someone who was currently being used so i just gave up immediately lol

inner ocean
#

i know its something i don't do but i still want to remember what it means

ruby moon
#

idt i have enough decent factory workers to do full rotations every time

round dock
inner ocean
#

yeah i can't relate

#

i never make orundums in base

#

Also it's not about enough factory workers

#

you'll run out of roccs before that's even an issue

worthy heart
#

Hm. If not doing infinite fiametta works, seems like the thing to do would be to have Proviso team and Shamare team each offset by a cycle, with a third team to swap in for each of them. If doing Jaye/Proviso/SilverAsh, this means wanting Gnosis in CC for an extended time. If only doing two CC configurations, he'd be in the "long" team.

The main point of Worldly Plight is the big TP bonus on Mr. Nothing - But WP wants Dusk/Ling like PI does, but I'd want to be making use of PI as long as possible, whereas WP would only be the filler team. Seems like maybe trying to shoehorn in WP isn't worth it, especially if I already wasn't planning to micromanage placing the rest of Sui?

round dock
#

I realized I've got more EXP and LMD than I know what to do with atm

inner ocean
#

raise more ops

round dock
#

and I've got crazy amount of rock right now

#

but I don't want to

inner ocean
#

then enjoy your EXP and LMD stockpile

#

do not forget

#

we are here

round dock
#

or just make AO

inner ocean
#

because we want optimal EXP LMD.....and maybe some AO

#

if you don't use EXP and LMD that much anymore

#

then your base might've already finished its job

round dock
#

well, I'm kind of set at least for a year

tiny mist
#

I'm here for optimal LMD and EXP because I recently got Ops that I want to upgrade

#

Mlynar, Ines, AH squad and Eyjafalla. And some others, but I have masteries and modules to be concerned with, and I want to make the most of the efficiecny lmao

proud sedge
#

is whisperain good guys?

tiny mist
#

Yah

proud sedge
#

havent build her and her skin is quite gorgeous

#

is she the usual ST medic?

stuck crow
#

i use mulberry only 🫡

inner ocean
#

I'm doing optimal base rotations because i plan to raise everyone

#

and lets just say, the endgoal can stretch

#

even if i did raise everyone to e2 40

#

i could stretch it to all e2 60

tiny mist
inner ocean
#

and maybe e2 cap after

arctic prism
#

i also mainly use mulberry
just use whisperain when exodia is asleep bc i fia ros

uncut dome
#

Okay this needs to perishJessNotLikeThis

arctic prism
#

yeah...

uncut dome
#

Hmm can't even use combos properly with this cuz CC won't sync with FAC or TP

arctic prism
#

yup

#

idk why they decided to make the presets tied to each individual facility

#

instead of across the whole base

#

when there's so many cross facility combos in the game

inner ocean
#

24 hr shifts should be set in stone in 3 presets

#

if there's no other weird variations

uncut dome
#

It only switches dead ops

inner ocean
#

i meant Rotate ALL

#

not Rest ALL

uncut dome
#

It doesn't follow the preset unless the operator in it is fatigued

inner ocean
#

LMAO

arctic prism
#

oh what thats even dumber

inner ocean
#

well.....that's certainly news

#

Cho

#

it ain't dumb

#

there's use

tiny mist
#

Manual rotation 😭

inner ocean
#

just not useful to us

arctic prism
#

:C

uncut dome
#

I already knew it but I wanted to see it for myself

tiny mist
#

I am so sad

inner ocean
#

we still won ffs guys

#

1 click swap

tiny mist
uncut dome
#

And it's dumber when I see it happen cuz I only see ded Lancet transferring

inner ocean
#

we used to click so many fucking things

#

scroll so many times

tiny mist
#

Argh

inner ocean
#

remember when the most we wished for was to bookmark base ops?

#

this.....this is better

#

imo

sudden token
#

If they hadn't gotten rid of the filters, I'd be happy

arctic prism
#

idk id rather have had bookmark ops

sudden token
#

As it is, throw this in the trash

arctic prism
#

muscle memory would take care of everything else for me

inner ocean
#

cho

#

sooner or later muscle memory will happen for this new layout

#

i don't even get why you want more clicks

#

less clicks = good QoL

#

don't worry though

#

you're still gonna do manual shit

#

using Fia swaps

#

and AH transitions

arctic prism
#

it's more complicated because you still have to scroll
just sometimes

uncut dome
#

I want no clicks, let us automate itSkadiDaijoubu

arctic prism
#

it's the just sometimes part that's annoying

inner ocean
uncut dome
#

The most annoying is I wasted some drones trying to be smart

inner ocean
#

Zyf we've all been there

#

no need to regret it too much

uncut dome
#

The rest all prios higher lvl dorms

#

Not by order

#

I upgraded my bottom dorm and downgraded my upperHellaKek

#

So that I can easily put Iris Czerny since it should have some emtpy slots

arctic prism
#

dam

#

thats tragic lmao

inner ocean
#

anyways i designed this specifically for aesthetic purposes. nothing to do with efficiency in overview. So it's a win in my end heh

#

architecturally-oriented aesthetics at least regarding conveyor belt logic and isolating generators

#

anyways I'll edit my excel later

worthy heart
#

My dirty attempt at a rotation for my 243. Basic idea is to have all my best stuff on the 1-2 cycle and use cycle 3 as a reset. There's a number of optimizations I'm choosing not to pursue here (no Fiametta shenanigans, no dead lancet, not trying to fit in Worldly Plight, etc.) but I'm pretty happy with this.

polar gull
#

Anyone know whether presets fuck with bibeak/kafka base skill even if you have them in the same slot?

stuck crow
#

they rearranged factories

#

that's crazy...

#

factory 3 and 4 where swapped out in that UI before

inner ocean
vital oriole
round dock
stuck crow
#

this ruined my rots, good thing i checked

round dock
#

so is there seriously no one here who farms Originium?

stuck crow
#

now i need to figure out why are dorms broken now

#

i farmed it a bit but as a side hustle

#

like on a sub shift, just converting some stuff when i ran karlan

polar gull
#

Which is almost never.

stuck crow
#

apparently i use whisper
it's done basically on automate now so i forgot

stuck crow
#

30% worker on shift 1 still stays here so it kinda sucks
fia is used on proviso and purestream

round dock
#

what do you guys consider enough rocks? I've got over 3000 t2

stuck crow
#

3k is like
less than 20 pulls iirc?

round dock
#

that doesn't seem like much

stuck crow
#

oh, a bit more

#

1200 rocks per 10 pull isn't it

round dock
#

3700 rock with now

#

so 30 pulls worth

rose knoll
#

Do partial rotations no longer work at all

#

2 of my CC presets share some ops and it refuses to swap between them

#

Only goes between my 1st and 3rd (which don't share any)

stuck crow
#

i could do my test rotation that had scene in all 3

#

can probably keep one op in all 3 CC rotations and then swap it manually

rose knoll
#

My 1st and 2nd share 4 ops lol