#r-i-i-c
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We don't have the option to lock some Dorm OP in dorm yet right ?
Your shifts look fine. But you have nobody working the factory at the moment.
alright thx yeah, i'm just setting up the rotation first
before starting the work
just wanted to know if the rotations are correct
if i automatically switch someone into dorm with the new rest ops function while fiammetta is in there, does her base skill apply or does it have to be manual
wait actually i can prob test
Can't say for 100%, but my experience with general rest swaps says that if Fiammetta has full morale she'll just be removed from the dorm
This rework is so shit for advanced users that I think my blood pressure is legitimately up. I hate this thing
Removal of filters makes any sort of manual swapping makes everything take a minimum of twice as long to do.
whops
ahhhhhh my dorm workers
Is there no possible way to stagger this?? I think I’m one formation off from it being possible
I spend the last 30 min trying for nothing💀
You have 3 presets. If you have more than 3 teams then you need to do it manually
If only hg could have gave 1 more preset 
I finally gave up on my r6 siege team too after 4 years using this update as a excuse to be more efficient and this is the result 
goddammit
ok they rearranged overview
to be loads better
by putting all factories together
and all TPs together
why we cant lock operators in dorms? is it because that would be considered cruelty?
i have to update my excel...
this lowkey tripped me up
bc I rearranged my facilities to do this on their own
but now tp is below factory
same
wait no
the thing is
I just designed my excel sheet to mimic the overview layous
oh lol
like so.
except i swapped Workshop and Dorm because of alignment
now its time i change this
ah makes sense lol
IIRC we get this feature in three months time with the next Sui event with Yu and Blaze-alter
i just wished there's more than 3 presets
cause i still have to revise presets if i move to 3 EXP -> 3 Gold -> 3 EXP setups
Does anyone here just have a optimal setup using the new features and systems that I can copy
I have all operators. I can E2 whatever i might actually not have E2 already.
Nate, if you're talking about using the OVERALL rotation button
highly not recommended
cause it means you're doing only 12 hr rotations on everything
or it could be 24 hr rotation
I've reset my entire base for this update .. and now I'm honestly not sure what to do. And since I just did a full reset, it would suck if I set it up wrong now and have to reset it again.
but everyone shares the same sleep time, which is rough for dorms
My base just sitting there empty.
^ the people here wont be using a lot of the new systems because our previous manual rotations were much more efficient
do you not have a base rotation sheet?
we just do the same thing as before
except we now have easy presets
so many clicks turned to 2 clicks per room
For myself? No .. i just did it from memory.
Unless you mean the sheets in the pins here, yes I do.
lol
I was asking before if I can still just copy Gatos stuff for example and how to utilize the presets in the most ideal way for this
Did I say something offensive? Lol.
i mean if you really want to use the whole base switch button you can set up 2 presets of your highest %s and swap between those 2
can use the pins for reference for best combos
no. that type of memory is impressive
To be fair, I'm not running any of these crazy 7.5H rotations or anything
So not that impressive.
remembering all of these.....is impossible for me
3 EXP 3 gold respectively
Nate, I'm only running 12 hr visits
I mean .. have u tried? I probably used Gatos sheet for a few weeks when I started
But repitition is one hell of a drug
After a few weeks I had it all memorized
And since looking it up constantly is annoying and agitating
That feeds your memory further to live without it
Limiting factors though .. right? Cause only 3 presets. So something like this wouldnt even work ..
At least not with the prests.
what makes Gato's easier to memorize is because his rotation can be slimmed down to 6 shifts
mine needs to be 12
cause I'm doing 36 hr shifts in some of mine
so having some do 36 and others do 12 leads to 12 shifts before an entire cycle happens
I usually get fed up with base rotating eventually, I always do
And then I just set up something like 12 hour shifts with the best in slot teams for each facility
And if this update isn't making the process drastically easier, I'm bound to get fed up again sooner than later
lol.
Curious .. what even are the hours in that rotation? Do all facilities have individual rotation rythms? Where do u have those listed?
i mean it's obvious if you're used to seeing text-based shifts
what has bold colors and bold text is a changed shift
what's muted colors and non bolded text is retaining the previous shift
Hmm time to make a good rotation for 1 tap switching but I'll do it when I wake up
what I meant by this is just set up 2 completely separate set of workers
e.g. exodia + automation on preset 1, pinus + glasglow etc on preset 2
Yeah, I think I understood that as well. But that wouldn't be the most ideal possible setup .. it would be rather the most ideal setup utilizing the preset rotation feature, right
that's difficult in a way. Making sure each shift only has 3 iterations it frequents
wait no its not difficult
if you only do 24 hr shifts
as a max for everything
So in essence, we can't use the new QoL stuff to make any of the most optimal setups any easier to rotate.
we can't yeah
That's agitating.
we wont be able to hit anywhere close to ideal setups with this update because we're limited to 3 presets
yea
I reset my base for nothing.
the rest automation only works for 0 morale ops
It won't be the most optimal but the goal is to find the optimal rotation while making use of the qol
Is it? I don't see how. Some of Gatos setups use like 7 presets
No it work on all non full morale op
also the fact that the switch button doesnt switch just to the next preset and instead finds one that doesnt use any of your currently used ops is annoying af
Presets seem worthless for complex setups .. or even just setups that switch singular operators
NGL having dorms be separate means it's easier for me to isolate and use Fia's dorm
Wtf, why was the timer that showed when a factory worker would stop working removed? 
You get confused cuz he likes to use different skins/alters avatars but they're just 3
it's not really
the best setups do 36 hr shifts which still leads to only 2 presets
even mine that does absurd optimal relocations
don't do more than 4
yea for the most part 4~6 are the same as 1~3
Well, would any of u share ur presets with me so I can get an idea of a decent setup
I'm running on empty a bit right now
I mean.. that still is a bit faster though
mine is gonna be useless to you bc im on 153
also my rotations are wack
I don't necessarily need to use rotate all
it does lead to only 24 hr shifts max
Having to press one button per facility is already a huge step up
In terms of time saved
oh yeah
And SANITY.
Huh
you cant?
Why?
3 presets already full
lol
Bitter
yep
Can't you just click the rest ops button once ?
that automates every ops in 0 morale to dorm
if you're using dorm workers it'll chuck them all out
useless for most of us
I'm not entirely sure myself, but from what I've read so far there are a ton of issues with this
like .. full Fiametta being pulled
also will throw lancet in there
the QoL mostly helps the laziest players
^
viable without too many losses tbh
i've done this a long time
i know that at least my lmd was still around 50k+
perfect rotations get to what .. 65k ish?
usually when i go into hibernation mode and only log on once a day, i utilize 24h rotations
Might be annoying to do it thrice a day (1 from AH transition), but the results are worth it (3 EXP right now)
wait this ain't even my best results
I've missed 2 AH transitions (2 days)
just a bit
with AH squad helping
but i missed AH squad due to maintenance....and due to playing Dead Cells too much and forgot
when i was running 252 lmd average was roughly 71k iirc
also
i've not ever seen a screenshot with 70K+ lmd in my life
Just set a alarm every day at the same hour
i guess you havent been around here often then bc 70k is low
that was without curse
i already did
I come here usually every couple months if I'm doing vast, big changes to my base .. or full resets, implementing new operators, or updated gato rotations, etc.
so im not here that often, no
but i think this is still my second most used channel nonetheless 
I have E2'ed more operators for base than for actual gameplay
so i consider myself a #r-i-i-c sleeper resident
Nate i only visit here everytime CN gets new ops
just to check up if there's someone new that can be added to my rotation
same
so far, none....nothing interesting past Thornstar
in a way that's good news for me
less pulls to do
I once updated my entire base to add Hoederer in proviso rotation
Just for gato to nuke that change a few weeks later

either way
this is preset shit is great
its annoying to memorize where each operator is sometimes
true
even worse when the operator doesn't work off of numbers
i guess one useful thing to come from this at least.
so they're farther from the scroll
Weedy Purestream is annoying due to how far apart they are
unfortunate that TR and Workshop don't have presets
but oh well
Is there any way to see how long a unit has until they're exhausted now? I can't seem to find it after this latest update
do the presets work with stuff like kafka ceobe scene etc? like it doesnt reset their productivity/efficiency?
as long as they're in the same slot as before
no issue, is what i remember
ayt cool tyty
this is present in the overview
just click the room
problem is it doesn't work on everything
CC doesn't
neither does RR
only works on Factories, TP, and HR
is what I'm seeing
Thank you!
and this rest op button is so useless
just realized base still in beta 
hmmm, i think i could get used to how neat it is to have everything be arranged together
I click on rest op and then all my arene fodder kicked out my morale restorer
easier to measure Arene reqs too
yeah that's already known here
REST ALL is useless to us since it only works on 0 morale
including Dead Lancet
wait how
do you put it to 0 morale
grey alter?
Eun still counts Lancet being there
Greyy Alter doesn't consider Lancet being there due to 0 morale
weird interaction
but it works in our favor
i went digging around in my phone for old screenshots of an average 252 base report and couldnt find any other than ones with wacky numbers (e.g. 45k sandwiched by 90k and 100k) that came out of neglect
This is about as close as I found to average day
Was December 2023 for context
I still dont get it
this is the whole combo
CC has Eun for me
Factory has Weedy and Pure
PP has Greyy Alter and Lancet (0 morale)
boom
ok I guess you could just lancet be on 0 morale anyways, but at the cost of 10% drone production right?
not just 10%
you're nullifying the entire PP's production
since 0 morale piloting means the entire room can't function at all
still worth it
That's where I would put my E2 Eunectes, if I had one.
I mean I have the other power plant operator
indeed
oh yeah
what i meant is the room itself
has a default prod
without anyone being there
that is also nullified iirc if you use Dead Lancet
I'm pretty sure powerplant produce without people
I remember back in the day I don't bother putting ppl in
no clue. all i know is
it's worth doing
the maffs were already done and asked by past me
i just trust my past self's hard work
i don't get this
i guess the number of idle ops with this status that's not in dorms?
how is yours 80k
cause it ain't counting Dead Lancet
12/15 is probably like 60k
Number of none full morale ops
fucking hell, it's in the tabs. I just need to avoid clicking that...
the base report numbers only count up to the stuff that you claim on that day, not what you actually produced in that day
I'm out of rhine lab ops, who can I put here with ptilopsis
that's my girl, Nian.
Arene and Nian are not letting me down recently.
This base rework is so nice but I don't have a 3rd preset lol
||252
Priority: As much money as possible, exp is kinda shafted, so whatever I have best will suffice
One lv2 TP and one lv 3 TP
Two lv3 PP
2 lv 2 fac for exp, one lv 3 for exp. and 2 lv 3 fac for gold. Though I prefer having the lv 2 for exp and 3s for metal for consistency.
2 shift cycles, not active enough to do more.
🟢 Cycle 1, CC: yato alter, CE, walter, amiya, noir corne E2
🔵 TP: Proviso with terra research commission
🔵 Tequila bibeak shamare all E2
🟡 Factory: assorted flavors of rhine lab ops
🟡 Ceobe, vermeil, scene E2 (exp)
🟡 vulcan E2 bubble, bena
PP: ifrit, muelsyse
🟠 RR: Ines or some shit
🟢 Cycle 2 CC: Mlynar, Vivi, Flametail, Kaltsit, Eunectes all E2.
🔵TP: Pozy, tuye E2, kirara E0
🔵 Proviso, Vigil
🟡 Fac: gravel, bryophyta, haze gold
🟡 weedy purestream golf
🟡 mizuki, jessica, vanilla?
Ashlock and Wildmane E2
PP: whatever as long as justice knight is in one of 'em
These are my 2 base cycles I am trying to optimize without nian/chongus, pallas, ebenholz or rosmontis.||
This is copy pasted
If you select the actual power plant facility it will tell you the charge speed increase due to the operator working on it
Dead ops do not provide the base +5% bonus
you can make a 3-preset constant ROTATE ALL work
you just need to set your presets well for 24 hr shifts
just like you make the excel sheets
I can't predict when I'll go online
So I'm just asking for bare minimum
I have ptilopsis for my 3rd preset and wondering what to put her with
p sure if you're using rotate all, 2 set is just going to be better than 3
50% uptime on best combos vs 33%
ROTATE ALL usage means you abandon 36 hr shifts
which i won't
...why didn't they just add 4-5 presets.....
agreed considering all their efforts to make 243 better also makes 252 way better
lol yea
Anyone?
huh?
I don't seem to be getting the abyssal hunter factory bonus from using spalter unlike the other abyssals
Does anyone else experience this?
Specter2 isn’t considered ah.
spalter (and any other alters) are counted as "alter"s instead of their normal grouping
Any Alter doesn't count on base combos that ain't titled "Alter"
this includes Silence Alter
hg doing everything in their power to stop us from getting more abyssals for base 
Specter Alter, etc.

is there a setting to make the dorms work before the update? im getting sick and tired of it picking ops to rest THAT I DONT WANT TO REST and it taking out my resting boosting ops and other bonus OPs to other arteas
honestly just give me a ling equivalent to chuck in cc and im a happy man
or like a waaifu but for cc
why is it putting ops in my DORM thati dont want it doing
how do i make it stop doing it
you dont lol
?
just have to not press the button
there's no "going back" from this
im confused
the "Rest Ops" button in the notifications
So I want to run dead lancet, but I can't be bothered to make sure she doesn't get put into the dorms. Is the best way to have one of my power plants permanently have lancet in it by having a single rotation with lancet?
you're not allowed to press it
i am not pressing anything, its putting ops in dorm without me doing it
pressed what
Should prolly never touch the rest all button.
you know how you collect your factory stuff and your tp orders right?
if you tap those too fast you accidentally press the "Rest Ops" button
and then your dorms get fucked
Never use this if 0 Morale Lancet is idling waiting for their shift.
uh.. why does that exist? its kinda hard when you are trying to tap the morle thing and collect thing
No Silence, Dorothy, Mayer?
it's there for players lazier than us
almost 99% of AK players let their ops get to 0 morale
?? wdym
do you need rhine lab for muelsyse? or are you talking about for dorothy
there is no setting/ option jsut to return to how it looked before? this ui is.. like why is the dorm split from the factorys ? i have to keep hitting this like 5 times
and would just be willing to rotate all
cause they don't care too much for optimal prod
i don't know about you but this is convenient
rotate preset everyone
Dorothy is in another one, but ty for reminding me about mayer
I don't think she's E2 though
and then visit dorm to put every tired ops there
if for muelsyse, put them in dorms, not in the factory
if for dorothy you don't need anyone else than those 3
mayer doesnt count toward dorothy's skill
...she does
but she's 30% anyways so same thing
she does not
Mayer tends to not be with Doro
do you not have better factory ops? if you do you can just leave them in the dorm instead
but she helps Mumu count so she's always somewhere where Doro isn't
ops in dorm count toward mumu
Well I've been putting this stuff and pasting my entire 2-rotation process for the past half a fucking year and nobody told me anything like that.
I ask them, every time, what can I do with what I have and they tell me "yeah that's ok Just E2 x character"
also even if you did need to use the rhine lab ops in factories bc dorms are full, the 5% pp gain you get from mumu isnt worth if you can get even +5% factory by not using her
here?
%pp is worth roughly half of other facility %'s
it's a little higher than that if you're using drones on proviso tp but that's it
I pasted my process today too from a little bit of scrolling
who are the guys telling you to do that?
did you bother asking them which TP combo to go for?
cause no fucking one would ever recommend you to use E2 Tuye
as for Vulcan and Scene
They did lol
yea idk who you talked to but likely werent the regulars on this channel
Tuye With Kirara and pozy
i really hate this new ui
same lol
And 2nd rotation is the classic shamare one
I love it sm
They were an expert iirc
I think it was only if I had a specific level dorm though, so nvm
ah probably talked to someone trying to sell pozy combo as something better than what it really is lol
pozy combo is fine but isnt reallly something i would recommend to other people unless you really had no better options
id just take a look at pin 4 and it should give you all the info you need
Ok then, I guess I'm asking for the 50th time what's the best 2-cycle that requires the least maintenance
Not your fault ofc
lol for that one we won't know unless we create the rotation ourselves too since it's not a rotation we use ourselves
I've pasted my current process
iirxc
I can paste it again if you want
Poze Tuye combo is only worth it
when doing 4-5 gold base
which is not recommended
Darn.
I think Zyf has one.
Then if you can adjust this as you see fit
he was saying he needs to take some time later to come up with a rotation
btw did you read up on this?
If there were 4 fucking presets
i would've made an easy ROTATE ALL
but naaaah
oh wait
I've read it a lot of times but it just isn't helping
||252
Priority: As much money as possible, exp is kinda shafted, so whatever I have best will suffice
One lv2 TP and one lv 3 TP
Two lv3 PP
2 lv 2 fac for exp, one lv 3 for exp. and 2 lv 3 fac for gold. Though I prefer having the lv 2 for exp and 3s for metal for consistency.
2 shift cycles, not active enough to do more.
🟢 Cycle 1, CC: yato alter, CE, walter, amiya, noir corne alter E1 (should be E2ed)
🔵 TP: Proviso with terra research commission
🔵 Tequila bibeak shamare all E2
🟡 Factory: assorted flavors of rhine lab ops
🟡 Ceobe, vermeil, scene (exp)
🟡 vulcan, bubble, bena (vulcan E1, needs E2)
PP: ifrit, muelsyse
🟠 RR: Ines or some shit
🟢 Cycle 2 CC: Mlynar, Vivi, Flametail, Kaltait, Eunectes all E2.
🔵TP: Pozy, tuye E2, kirara E0
🔵 Proviso, Vigil
🟡 Fac: gravel, bryophyta, haze gold
🟡 weedy purestream golf
🟡 mizuki, jessica, vanilla?
Ashlock and Wildmane E2
PP: whatever as long as justice knight is in one of 'em
These are my 2 base cycles I am trying to optimize without nian/chongus, pallas, aroma, fartooth, hoederer, siege alt, ebenholz or rosmontis. I also would rather not do dead lancet strat.||
There it is
Is is lmao
It doesn't even have all of the factory presets on it
^
lmao
there are a few pozy merchants in here occasionally tho so im not all that surprised
and are those Tuye merchants also using WALTER in CC?
I don't remember, I think spacejamflam in particular told me that I need a good dorm level, I don't remember who specifically did though
a good fucking base
How to maintain dorm operators like lumen when clicking the rest button?
doesn't need dorm level requirements
Yeah I definitely remember being told explicitly to use Walter in cc
you can't
don't use it if you want to use dorm ops
So manual then😆
Take your time, I'll be going back to work, looking forward to having my catastrophe reworked
for this i'm not 100% sure what you have and don't have so it's hard for me to come up with what you should do exactly
...there's no button to empty dorms now?
I explained who I don't have on the bottom I believe
Are there any other important non-limiteds?
That I left out?
yeah but like you probably dont have glasglow team all e2'd for example
Then I can E2 them if it's the best for low maintenance 2 cycle
i can go into individual dorm and "select all" but like come on, why remove the button at all
ok whoever recommended Walter in CC are doing it for those that don't have all the optimal shit
is what I'm seeing
and your entire setup is a work in progress from all the advices you got
Yeah I don't have the optimal, missing many limiteds
no single person
recommended the entire package you're showing
then there's no issue until you get better shit
Well I ain't gonna spark limiteds lol
i know right. oh well. I just go into dorm and deselect all
a different way to do it
but you're going inside dorm to pick the tired ops anyway
so thats what i do now
Can someone remind me what I'm doing wrong regarding dead lancet team?
CC using Eunectus, PP is Grey Alt + Dead Lancet, Lv2 factory is Purestream and Weedy
I could have sworn I would get a bonus of +1.15, but it's showing +0.77 instead
yeah but i want to remove them asap 🫡
is Lancet Dead?
extra clicks
are any of them not E2?
Yes
well, you're stll doing 1 click the same way you do remove all
1 click for Deselect All
inside the dorm room itself
The required ones are E2
Are you on exp factory?
now you do extra click per dorm, because you need to click Confirm after deselecting all
remove all didn't need confirmation click, no
i don't need to put tired ops
Solved. They shuffled my rooms lol
my dude, you let your dorm be empty after Remove All?
i need to REMOVE them
and it's now harder by 4 clicks
I put gold on bottom and it's now not
you remove them for a reason
this button may as well be read as "make arene and stainless into 20% byproduct workers"
Before: Remove All -> do your business with that dorm
Now: Deselect All -> do your business with that dorm
take a guess why 🫡
why would i let them regen morale
anyway
I updated some E1 to E2
the ":rotate full base" button also is useless right
depends
if you ONLY do 24-hr shifts
it's possible you can create your entire setup with just 3 presets
and thus....make Rotate ALL work for you
EXCEPT AH squad transition
ok, before i do this (first preset is like above)
if i do second into third into first preset
will scene ramp up persist
or did they code it differently
i figured you don't know
but it does work
i need to get back to work been slacking for a little too long but if you really want I can send you a rotation sometime later today, probably in like the next 12 hrs
i don't know the answer. Wonder if Gato knows
@jaunty notch Do presets not affect ramp up reset as long as ops are in the same slots?
i don't like using 30% worker like mizuki
they don't, i literally just tested it
.
does that include Tailoring?
scene works cause i can see her numbers
that requires some maffs that can't be done day 1
i'm not testing tailoring
well i mean with our previous assumptions it worked the same as scene
and since scene doesn't reset her ramp, why would tailoring
anyways
about your setup
i literally can't help you since my setup is HR1
our setup couldn't be any more different
all i can recommend is
your bubble vulcan is the weakest sub
but the base knowledge transcends base setups!
maybe see if you can improve that with Rhine subs
yeah i was thinking about removing it but everything else also kinda sucks
rhine can only go 95% in 3 slots anyway right 
Ok 😭
while bubble vulcan ceobe is a 95% max....but needs scaling for Ceobe
it's worse
i still do for mine too
wait no
mine uses combo of Mizuki + Jessalter BS
so its a 100%
still, the entire Jessalter team is removed for AH transitions
unless it's 6 hr maintenance time
in which case they get the entire shift
but yeah, there's a lot of asterisks here as to why they're still valuable to me. I have more slots + I can't use full power of Rosmontis combo
so at best Ling and CY only lasts for 1 shift to avoid Dusk usage for Mr Nothing combo
thus i got Jessalter on every other shift which is changed midway by AH squad
How do I enable the rotate feature? Don't I just need to put presets in all rooms? Or does it only work when the current assigned operators are fatigued?
3 is usually fine (like you can work with it) but for something like tailoring it kinda sucks
at least they gave 3 and not 2...
dorm presets would've been good
but uhhh, yeah
YES WE DO
Am vibing
I mean

if I had my way
i want 12 fucking presets
so i cna just do my entire cycle rotation
with the only extra clicks being Fia swaps and AH transitions
we can just #1211614253354852362
if only the presets were tied to the whole base instead of per facility
just .....don't click
Dont auto-rest
if you've been doing Dead Lancet all this time
that's harder than you think
Rest them yourself manually 
you know how to ignore warnings
dead lancet won't rotate in either
Go do it guys, I'll support you. I don't want to be the one to write the damn essay.
has cn not done that already?
otherwise, I don't hate it, though not seeing the dorms at first was confusing
i assume someone over there must have by now lol
whoever ain't lazy enough, do it and write it in #1211614253354852362
the more it's requested
the higher the chance it's heard
do you believe yostar listens
Ok, thought I was gunna need Kyo guide for base 
or even relays to cn
ah yes....2 things to ignore now instead of 1
I just try and no longer bother waiting
the fatigued operators one you can remove from settings
I might do that later tbh
oh nice
i'll do that
I'll make one when I get home. Make sure someone didn't make already

no its fine if multiple people do it
thats how feedback is done
the more common it's mentioned the better
Why would you ignore fatigued ops?
I'll put a reaction that will be ignored by them out of solidarity
whether it happens or not....don't bother waiting
lancet
Dead Lancet strats mean there's forever gonna be a Fatigued operator tab
Also I have 20 fatigue ops for materials
ah there we go
that setting has been there since forever btw not from this update
yeah i didn't check
What does dead lancet do?
much better
He's paired with Greyy
which is good
good for non-optimizers
But I need them to be 0
Alt or the OG?
Alt
one button to make 20% arene/stainless
Oh
I didn't look at it that way
I looked at it in terms of rotating ops for base
and then bring them back to factory once Arene is done
oh yeah it sucks for that
🫡
Is there no "not assigned" tab anymore
Isn't Arene strat too much of a hazzle? That 20 ops would be sht to handle. Just use NCD.
Man why they do this
you use all of them
They got rid of the Filters, yeah. No more Not Assigned, nor the Custom Facility to move operators between dorms
I only used those two, but I used them all day every day
Darn
Idk why they put archetypes there instead. It's not even useful.
Removing those two buttons is making me consider quitting the game, ngl
wouldn't it still snap Lancet in? which is still annoying
Nah, we need another way
I like it. I just need moar presets 
need another way....what? you want more clicks?
i'll take my less-clicks, thank you very much
And where do you expect us to get LMD and EXP then?
Farm CE stages?
maybe? i don't use lancet
Ah yes, a very "efficient" farming method
damn
it will tire itself soon enough anyway
not using Lancet
Why does CE stages even exist though
Alternate sanity bar for supply arena only
@past kettle
For bait
lancet will just nerf my base
hush you fools. LS and CE exist for those that raise ALL ops
cause base ain't fast enough
Dies of cringe
Ewww
Lol
max optimization moment
we should silence this guy, forever
Other gacha has that. It's not fking fun.
Say bye bye to red certs and chips.
What's that?
Yo chill 
Elo hauck. 
Not just FGO.
^
Astolfo existing
lottos
The whole internet:
are pain
How in the world
i'm iffy about 100% full sweep on everything
you know what happens when a game has 100% full sweep?
i stop knowing how to play after a while......i dissociate.....and then quit out
either way
honestly same
I'm glad Anni and soon, SSS will be sweep-oriented
I can add more gacha games to play.
yeah i'm not like you guys
wdym
sss gets skip tickets?
i get no pleasure getting 6* in few rolls
and i get frustrated when it takes too long
hello guys, can i still switch different account using different yostar accs
SSS will be sweepable in Lapptop event iirc
Sweep can fck off. What I want more is 4X speed.
god bless
Hell yeah
desync issues will happen
a LOT worse
I'm just here to go for end-game account and maybe finally get Wisadel (even tho she's limited so it's prolly never)
do not forget....this is still one of the most intricate autos i've ever seen
it really inputs what you did as close as possible
it's impressive actually
This reminds me of the Dolly event RNG
i can imagine making it faster will make desyncs worse than it already is

yeah i was genuinely impressed first time i saw
ah you're so young
our gripes were during
Damn game doesn't even let you swap dead lancet 
seaborn Anni
Fuuuuuck
I'm working on setting up my base presets, referencing the base combo guide. A few questions:
- Has anyone already condensed these into a clear set of rotations and presets? Would be a huge lifesaver 😅 (Specifically 243 base)
- Who do you put with Rosmontis? Just whatever 2 best workers for whatever factory type she's in? Doesn't look like there are other factory workers that specifically combo with her.
- What do your CC rotations end up looking like? If I want to do Perception Information + Worldly Plight, looks like I need Dusk/Ling/ChongYue/Saileach, which leaves room for only one other. A TP buffer like Amiya, a factory buffer like Kal'tsit, or someone like Gnosis to do SilverAsh/Jaye/Proviso TP at the same time? Both PI+WP and Proviso setups look extremely efficient, so it seems like it would be good to try to maximize how long that whole chunk is active in the base.
- If trying to combine Worldly Plight+Perception Information, is it more optimal to use Mulberry or Whisperain?
The anni with Frozen effect?
rng dodge is such an ass mechanic
the anni with stun when ele dmg is full + true dmg taken. Under Tides themed
*my eyes!*
Oh nvm, the corrosive or necrosis effect or smthing.
Wasn't there another anni that caused issues in auto-deploy with frozen effect no?
- check pin 4 sample rotations, it's for 252 but should give you an idea of what you're looking for
- can put her with anyone
- dusk ling cy + flametail/viviana or eun/gladiia
- depends on your use case, i mainly use mulberry but many people here use whisperain mainly
- Not Saileach to combo with whoever is in HR? Base combo guide seemed to strongly suggest Saileach was basically mandatory if using Whisperain/Mulberry in HR to offset efficiency loss there.
Wait that's actually quite stacked 15 slot factory setup wow
saileach is good but a lot of people here stopped using her for bigger base numbers lol
if you need the certs though can use sail instead
Saileach usage depends on how much you value green and gold certs in general
I have yet to do Tequila Shamare combo
(They are E0)
Dont have Fiametta sadly
Only got like Proviso Jaye SilverAsh
Then Exusiai Texas Lappy
Was gonna call this out. Micromanaging fia for unlimited optimal TPs seems really good, but really tedious.
I don't think I can manage more than 2 base interactions per day
are there any account lossage in todays update? Some peeps say they lost their accs
I haven't
So idk
Oh, its not bad combo?
I went to check the help megathread on reddit for base advice and saw a ton of people there who lost account access
That's.... something. Is this related to people NOT reading the Yostar announcement?
Ye lmfao
Thankfully I didnt lose my account
how
they sent so many notifs for that
goes to show how much people don't read ingame news
I have zero regrets about maxed 243 base. Feeling complete is more important to me than the efficiency gain. Even the optimizations I'm doing now are really just a formality since I've been able to comfortably raise all the units I want.
Binding your account to Yostar
do you guys not fucking check the OTHER tabs of ingame news?
Ye, well u didnt lose ur account so thats fine
as someone who has 9 accts
Wisadel account
don't you think about keeping them safe?
if so, good for you
the moment you have to beg for help in tech support

you've already failed
Imagine have limited characters in your account that you have now lost because you didn't read the announcements.
I saw successful account recoveries mentioned there, but huge hassle
sometimes a LOT more
All your years of progression wasted
HAHHAHAHAHA TELL THAT TO FGO
fucking constant swapping of devices
easily makes you lose your entire account just from FGO freezing during the process
need to call mommy tech support again
sheeesh
so fuckign archaic
even Brave fucking Frontier has acct binding
and that game is older than FGO
does fgo still have shitty codes instead of a bloody email binding
i didn't hear them add acct bindings
i wouldn't be able to find mine even if i tried
so i can imagine thats the case still
just dawned on me that using Pozy with only 2 Gold Factories kind of sucks
.....wow how long did that take you?
we've made it clear af that it takes 4 gold facs before its worth it
just wondering is the new presets thing just completely useless if you have a normal rotation
the 2nd time i lost my acct through shitty app freezing while code inputting, well, it was a blessing imo
cause by that time i was already not bothering to play FGO much
Me just optimizing on 24hr rotation
3 was good before
I switched Shamare TP to do AO, and it's only 126%
sub was Delphine/Siege/Vina/Morgan
I have intentionally made my base completely empty and have every Ops in Dorms so I can start to prepare the presets with full morale Ops
yes
It's time for me to go ham on base rotations 
unsure if sarcasm or legit
Gotta wait 8 hours tho
i know nothing about it other than i tried messing with it with my rec room and it wouldnt let me include someone who was currently being used so i just gave up immediately lol
i know its something i don't do but i still want to remember what it means
idt i have enough decent factory workers to do full rotations every time
Artificial Originium
yeah i can't relate
i never make orundums in base
Also it's not about enough factory workers
you'll run out of roccs before that's even an issue
Hm. If not doing infinite fiametta works, seems like the thing to do would be to have Proviso team and Shamare team each offset by a cycle, with a third team to swap in for each of them. If doing Jaye/Proviso/SilverAsh, this means wanting Gnosis in CC for an extended time. If only doing two CC configurations, he'd be in the "long" team.
The main point of Worldly Plight is the big TP bonus on Mr. Nothing - But WP wants Dusk/Ling like PI does, but I'd want to be making use of PI as long as possible, whereas WP would only be the filler team. Seems like maybe trying to shoehorn in WP isn't worth it, especially if I already wasn't planning to micromanage placing the rest of Sui?
I realized I've got more EXP and LMD than I know what to do with atm
raise more ops
or just make AO
because we want optimal EXP LMD.....and maybe some AO
if you don't use EXP and LMD that much anymore
then your base might've already finished its job
well, I'm kind of set at least for a year
I'm here for optimal LMD and EXP because I recently got Ops that I want to upgrade
Mlynar, Ines, AH squad and Eyjafalla. And some others, but I have masteries and modules to be concerned with, and I want to make the most of the efficiecny lmao
is whisperain good guys?
Yah
i use mulberry only 🫡
I'm doing optimal base rotations because i plan to raise everyone
and lets just say, the endgoal can stretch
even if i did raise everyone to e2 40
i could stretch it to all e2 60
Same but not everyone, just the ones I need/want the most lmao
and maybe e2 cap after
i also mainly use mulberry
just use whisperain when exodia is asleep bc i fia ros
Okay this needs to perish
yeah...
Hmm can't even use combos properly with this cuz CC won't sync with FAC or TP
yup
idk why they decided to make the presets tied to each individual facility
instead of across the whole base
when there's so many cross facility combos in the game
i mean shouldn't it be fine if most align with 24 hr shifts?
24 hr shifts should be set in stone in 3 presets
if there's no other weird variations
It only switches dead ops
It doesn't follow the preset unless the operator in it is fatigued
LMAO
oh what thats even dumber
Manual rotation 😭
just not useful to us
:C
I already knew it but I wanted to see it for myself
I am so sad
for non-optimizers/lazy dokutahs
And it's dumber when I see it happen cuz I only see ded Lancet transferring
remember when the most we wished for was to bookmark base ops?
this.....this is better
imo
If they hadn't gotten rid of the filters, I'd be happy
idk id rather have had bookmark ops
As it is, throw this in the trash
muscle memory would take care of everything else for me
cho
sooner or later muscle memory will happen for this new layout
i don't even get why you want more clicks
less clicks = good QoL
don't worry though
you're still gonna do manual shit
using Fia swaps
and AH transitions
it's more complicated because you still have to scroll
just sometimes
I want no clicks, let us automate it
it's the just sometimes part that's annoying
we take what we can get
The most annoying is I wasted some drones trying to be smart
The rest all prios higher lvl dorms
Not by order
I upgraded my bottom dorm and downgraded my upper
So that I can easily put Iris Czerny since it should have some emtpy slots

anyways i designed this specifically for aesthetic purposes. nothing to do with efficiency in overview. So it's a win in my end heh
architecturally-oriented aesthetics at least regarding conveyor belt logic and isolating generators
anyways I'll edit my excel later
My dirty attempt at a rotation for my 243. Basic idea is to have all my best stuff on the 1-2 cycle and use cycle 3 as a reset. There's a number of optimizations I'm choosing not to pursue here (no Fiametta shenanigans, no dead lancet, not trying to fit in Worldly Plight, etc.) but I'm pretty happy with this.
Anyone know whether presets fuck with bibeak/kafka base skill even if you have them in the same slot?
they rearranged factories
that's crazy...
factory 3 and 4 where swapped out in that UI before
Hauc confirmed for prod scalers that it still works if same slot. No test for tailoring
yup, left to right and top to bottom now
I noticed this, I'm glad
this ruined my rots, good thing i checked
so is there seriously no one here who farms Originium?
now i need to figure out why are dorms broken now
i farmed it a bit but as a side hustle
like on a sub shift, just converting some stuff when i ran karlan
I do it when there's enough dead time to farm rocks.
Which is almost never.
nvm i lied
apparently i use whisper
it's done basically on automate now so i forgot
maybe?
30% worker on shift 1 still stays here so it kinda sucks
fia is used on proviso and purestream
what do you guys consider enough rocks? I've got over 3000 t2
3k is like
less than 20 pulls iirc?
that doesn't seem like much
Do partial rotations no longer work at all
2 of my CC presets share some ops and it refuses to swap between them
Only goes between my 1st and 3rd (which don't share any)
i could do my test rotation that had scene in all 3
can probably keep one op in all 3 CC rotations and then swap it manually
My 1st and 2nd share 4 ops lol



