help

[pine plover]

being sarkaz is automatically homeless

[undone portal]

the convallis of the banshees wasnt a suitable living environment for her
read the story to learn more

[vital kelp]

doesnt her race get a valley or something tho

logos mom n stuff

[silver smelt]

ok but like cant she make a house

[undone portal]

its almost like thats what the event is about

[pine plover]

uranibog, the flying city

[raven ermine]

Nope, it takes her 2 hours to craft a single tile, house is out of the question

[vital kelp]

i literally cant read the story 😭

[random shard]

The Internet is vast and filled with things

[pine plover]

Terra is vast and filled with things

[undone portal]

youll get there point is, her mothers vision for the convallis wasnt right for nastis vision for what she wanted out of life, and the two come to a reconciliation by the end
ask about it in #ak-lore this event lowkey has a lot of meat to chew through

[final hound]

When's the next CC?

[raven ermine]

No clue

[vital kelp]

6 months after late june

[pine plover]

sometimes after chapter 17

[vital kelp]

it was announced to be after monhon rerun

[long sky]

who should i e2 first here? OGSilverash, ReedFS, Hoederer?

[raven ermine]

Was it announced ? i missed it 🥹

[nimble kite]

It's announced, yet unknown when exactly for CN.

[pine plover]

devnote

[vital kelp]

literally late june 😭

[raven ermine]

Silverash > reed > hoe

[nimble kite]

7th Mainstream.
Wang Event Featured map and enemies.

[oblique cypress]

Hi mayu

[raven ermine]

Hi max

[raven ermine]

Yeah that one i saw
Didn't know if we had more details or not

[nimble kite]

Nah

[undone portal]

waow global gets thousand autumns cc torture for christmas

[vital kelp]

so its coming in 7 months for global? give or take

[long sky]

skybox is good enough on e1 right no need to e2 them?

[chrome prawn]

You shouldnt upgrade him in the first place

[undone portal]

if all youre looking for is dps to hold you by until you pull better, then yea e1 is fine

[undone portal]

it depends. newbies very much want him

[long sky]

my acc is pretty new, i started on the last day of hoshialters banner then fully played when ave mujica collab came

[verbal tangle]

Does some annihilation levels disappear or do they just get locked (and will unlock again later on)

[chrome prawn]

Really i thought he is bad

[vital kelp]

they;ll come back

[proven kelp]

Said by who?

[raven ermine]

You thought wrong

[undone portal]

not sure where you wouldve gotten this impression from kinda seems like everyone understands hes at minimum alright

[oblique cypress]

Waow content 🍿

[chrome prawn]

Hey i just watch sum stuff on YouTube

[undone portal]

well which youtuber

[raven ermine]

Hey you like misinfo, wcyd

[vital kelp]

im sure u've been here for long enough to be told that utube is not to be trusted

[oblique cypress]

Supah incoming

[chrome prawn]

I forgot honestly

[undone portal]

supah has made zero public statements on skybox afaik

[oblique cypress]

I think if I watched supah half of my braincells would've rotted away so it has some correlation

[trim surge]

Are they going to rerun this on the store? Or is there other way to obtain this??

[jolly kestrel]

Is there a base build for both orundum and exp + lmd?

[chrome prawn]

I don't think dawg

[undone portal]

packaged together with the so long adele homescreen ui pack
it did get a rerun once iirc

[trim surge]

I liked that them song

[raven ermine]

If you have to ask, don't farm orundum, you clearly don't know what you're getting into
You're certainly not producing lmd, everything you produce will go toward paying your oru loans
I actually overproduce a slight amount, but let's be real, it's like 0 excess

[undone portal]

less a dedicated build and more just a general '1 shard factory per 1 orundum tp' rule

[oblique cypress]

How much does that make per month glueless

[fresh anvil]

glue

[obtuse obsidian]

the best way to orundum farm is to do it irl 💳

[undone portal]

if you toss sanity efficiency to the wind and slave away at the 1-7 mines 24/7 it adds up to about +10pulls/month

[oblique cypress]

Wtf farming orundum in the mines irl

[jolly kestrel]

I have to do this or else no wang for me cuz I've just spent like 200+ on nasti and now im broke

[true lantern]

is it worth to pull Nasti?

[vital kelp]

i dont think that quite adds up without monthly

if u do event and anni thats not enough

[oblique cypress]

If you are starting now you'd make no difference

[chrome prawn]

Only for veteran tho

[oblique cypress]

Give up and get a job I thinks

[chrome prawn]

True

[marble viper]

oh god the yaoi tierlist asker

[obtuse obsidian]

not even for veterans

nasti is only worth for memers

[raven ermine]

Sounds like using a mistake to correct another mistake
You're likely getting like 20 pulls at most, and that would be while bricking your progress on multiple fronts

[undone portal]

yea, nowhere near enough if youre playing events like a normal person
im talking skipping event stages entirely after youre done picking up the hh tickets

[true lantern]

No worry, I'm vet. I'm consider between Nasti and Nymph

[vital kelp]

thats a horrible idea since ur giving up yellow cert from pots

which are more pulls in the long term

[oblique cypress]

You want to be kissed or something?

[jolly kestrel]

Ok I guess I'll give up and let the fate decide :c

[vital kelp]

tbf 20 pulls aint bad

[chrome prawn]

Just get lucky dawg

[marble viper]

ready perfectly, I am completely and perfectly ready for all the possibilitys

[vital kelp]

if u do it slow like ur supposed to, u wont lose that much lmd on the way

[raven ermine]

20 pulls while not clearing anything and only doing 1-7 is pretty bad
And that's the upper limit assuming they do everything right and convert right away

[undone portal]

orundum farming at that much precision reeks of bad pull budgeting tho, you should never find yourself in this situation to begin with

[vital kelp]

its 2 month

oh yeah kinda not enough time for 20 pulls

[oblique cypress]

There's like a orundum farm that also gives sanity and it's like 5 dollars I think

[obtuse obsidian]

nasti is pure meme

nymph out classed

[vital kelp]

wym, i orundumb farm and i spend my pulls very wisely

[raven ermine]

And you can orundum farm with the 5 bucks orundum farm, how broken

[vital kelp]

orundumb farm has no correlation with bad pull budgeting

[proud zephyr]

atp just start swiping

[undone portal]

yea but youre like, normal and playing events along the way
i speak of the hypothetical doctor who is so desperate to scrounge more pulls as to skip this because they forgot to start saving for a collab or smth

[shy quiver]

Who should I E2 next? Ulpianus?

[raven ermine]

When you know what you're getting into, and doing it as you should
Rushing it at all costs is indeed pretty common when someone send 150+ in some suboptimal banner

[vital kelp]

i should make a guide to proper orundumb farming

[oblique cypress]

Me when I spent 120 to get Tecno

[undone portal]

yea i would do ulpi first. surtr/zuo next

[raven ermine]

Was it p1 tecno ? 😟

[shy quiver]

Appreciate it. Will do Ulpi and then Surtr after. I find myself using Surtr quite a lot

[pine plover]

i still dont have ksenia markovna nelidova

[undone portal]

i still wouldnt either if i didnt make the prudent choice to pull for blazealt

dozens shall grovel at my knees when vb2 arrives

[oblique cypress]

erm

[pine plover]

huh, i didnt remember giving surtr modX2

[frank girder]

should i pull for nasti, im new to the game

[pine plover]

[frank girder]

what about irene or nymph?

[normal barn]

any im missing i should get?

[raven ermine]

No, don't pull on rotating standard, like ever

[frank girder]

alright thanks 👍

[pine plover]

phantom IS mod maybe

[undone portal]

phantom is mod. thats it really
maybe consider stainless mod y

[pine plover]

tbf, i would wait for ulpianus to get a mod Y instead of the current one

[undone portal]

ive seen phidiaknights swap zuo to mod y on multiple occasions for what its worth

[pine plover]

but alas, it is what it is

[vital kelp]

would u guys say its better to just hold on ur energy can until they expire or use immediately when event comes

since there could always be vignette event coming with unpredictable scheduling

[undone portal]

i kinda doubt yostar wants to shove bellone in before wang

[pine plover]

well, TW has haywire of a schedule, and not handled by yostar

[candid badger]

yeh me hold until last day

[undone portal]

oh right, tw, i keep forgetting
i would hold

[raven ermine]

Yeah i wouldn't put it past TW

[vital kelp]

well i was more thinking of writing it into the guide something about farming 1-7 during vignette

[pine plover]

like, they already got Exodus of Pale ass Sea rerun before global

[undone portal]

whats the intended use for grainbuds talent? ra zookeeping?

[pseudo path]

Anyone got a spreadsheet for all operator's module's rating?

[coral vector]

Im in need of a good caster Iris is good but she falls off in certain circumstances, is it worth it to pull for nymph? I have 159 pulls saved but I dint know if there is any other Casters within a few months worth waiting for

[raven ermine]

That's too little of a window to even give advice on that methink
Vignette is basically a deadweek anyway, they should be able to understand as much on their own

[pine plover]

feels like people stop doing that after gamepress died

[vital kelp]

this is true

god writing a guide on this is kinda hard given i dont have an en account to take screenshots from in case people couldnt find stuff

[oblique cypress]

mafu spreadsheet

[undone portal]

-# kinda fascinating selection of casters youve chosen to build so far, im enamored by this sc
never pull on rotating standard banner. build your ceobe

[pseudo path]

Where can i find that

[robust pond]

Got nymph for my virtuosa. What skill should I prioritize?

[obtuse obsidian]

ceobe is passable

for pulling pull the best caster wang

[coral vector]

Okay thank you

[coral vector]

He's the supporter comming jn july right?

[undone portal]

if youre gonna lean into elemental dmg, s3

[robust pond]

Thanks

[obtuse obsidian]

specalist

but he do caster job better

[raven ermine]

not the virt nymph slop again 😔

[undone portal]

wangs a specialist
specializes in killing

[coral vector]

Okay

[obtuse obsidian]

wang is a specalist in removing enemies from the map

[waxen flame]

ray mod x or y

[proven kelp]

X
Read Module Recommendations https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588958885150721/1503192059597820026/Yuri.gif?ex=6a03c5b2&is=6a027432&hm=f5b900b4760d8547b38cd26f53bc9a33472fac8e808bbe3274ef34a0ab8d9821&=&width=414&height=900

[undone portal]

y if you just want more dmg
x if cycling sandbeast and having her aim at specific targets is your thing

[proven kelp]

You barely even get more interaction changes for a Mod specifically made for Pure Dmg

[craggy belfry]

Even if you want a caster trying to get one from standard is never recommended

[undone portal]

kinda true, she kills everything youd want her to kill regardless of mod choice it seems

[vital kelp]

can you make orundumb shard on tier 2 factory given that u have a tier 3 factory that unlocked the recipe?

[raven ermine]

Yes

[vital kelp]

cool

[proper ether]

whats ray best skill overall ?

[proven kelp]

Like
There are so very few things that Y will kill that X doesn't, and even those enemies who survive a whole cycle of X, the HP left is so low that they will die regardless from other units

[nimble kite]

S3. It's just usually this.
S1 uses in very niche case, S2 is being shadowed by S3 completely.

[obtuse obsidian]

wdym aim at specific target?

[proven kelp]

Check for skill recommendations https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588958885150721/1503192059597820026/Yuri.gif?ex=6a03c5b2&is=6a027432&hm=f5b900b4760d8547b38cd26f53bc9a33472fac8e808bbe3274ef34a0ab8d9821&=&width=414&height=900

[pallid creek]

What module level for nasti and which skills should I put on masteries?

[proven kelp]

#help message

[undone portal]

ray prioritizes enemies within sandbeast range, so you can deploy it to make her 'aim' in a way
lowered sandbeast rdp time means it properly syncs its rdp cycle with her s3 and lets you basically point at a target every skill use

[pine plover]

just retreat the sandbeast manually with modY

[obtuse obsidian]

oh you meant the redeploy decrease

i thought you meant she have special targeting limited to X lmao

[pallid creek]

The module level recommendation for nasti isn't there tho

[undone portal]

but then s3 charges before sandbeast is ready again

[obtuse obsidian]

Y sync with beast if she dont kill the target

[craggy belfry]

Typhoon has IS module?

[pallid creek]

Ah, it's in the different link

[oblique cypress]

this is too slow fam

[obtuse obsidian]

in kal banner ya

[proven kelp]

Did you even bother checking?

[oblique cypress]

can you add subway surfer at the bottom for me mafu

[proven kelp]

Sadly I don't play subway surfer🥹

[nova oak]

can i somehow get them if its closed?

[pallid creek]

I did check dragongjy's module ranking, yes

[scenic yoke]

How much trust do workers in base get per day

[proven kelp]

No
You can get T2 chips, but not T1

Aside from spending real money

[pine plover]

RA shop

[ivory terrace]

ofc not, he hasn't updated yet

[proven kelp]

That thing is outdated

[oblique cypress]

glueless

[obtuse obsidian]

you can get the small ones!!

from event shop which is only sniper atm

[proven kelp]

Oh right, I forgor

[pine plover]

hi forgor

[obtuse obsidian]

aint RA shop big chips?

[rain forge]

you can get them from RA shop from the chip etchers

[undone portal]

its been so long i genuinely forgot ra sold small chips

[pine plover]

chip etcher is big and smol

[proven kelp]

RA shop sells the same thing that Paid Shop sells, enough for E2 chips

[rain forge]

chip etchers have enough chips to e2 one 6* of that class from e0

[nimble kite]

Done.

[nova oak]

are there any tips for the most recent IS? what squad to take who to borrow etc

[proven kelp]

[oblique cypress]

holy fuck just what i needed

[obtuse obsidian]

we both getting old bro

when did ra2 even get released

[pine plover]

RA2: relaunch anchor just released

[obtuse obsidian]

i said ra2 not RA2

[nova oak]

?

[undone portal]

idc what hg says im not calling the original ra0

[proven kelp]

#is-station

[pine plover]

this is why people keep calling EN cant read

[vital kelp]

i never thought id be hitting a language barrier here, its hard translating to proper english wording when writing a guide

[proven kelp]

Reading is bad

[proven kelp]

For what?

[vital kelp]

proper orundumb farm that doesnt have a bajillion words

[oblique cypress]

what if like instead of translating, you just use the english resources to write the guide
start a global account NOW

[undone portal]

oh right, when does ra2 mountain skin drop in cn? jun1?

[vital kelp]

this is true

[spark dune]

which skill/s to master for Silveralter?

[fathom nest]

It's already available

[pine plover]

it's already available in the shop afaik

so instead of operator like kestrel, it's skin

[undone portal]

oh cool couldve sworn i saw it locked behind the 'available soon/next month' thing

[worldly estuary]

S3 > s2

[vital kelp]

wait ori are you not in nasti pulling room any more

are you skipping

[undone portal]

the pulls went bad

[vital kelp]

[oblique cypress]

i got horn from mine so 🥀

[undone portal]

wtf twinning

[vital kelp]

time to orundumb farm as an emergent backup and bad pulling practices

[marble viper]

[pine plover]

#cn-lounge message

[oblique cypress]

ill wait for titi banner and explode and have 0 pulls for wang

[obtuse obsidian]

you will have 24 pulls for wang
thats p6 wang and chen3 with 12 pulls for other suis

[oblique cypress]

[marble viper]

[undone portal]

#salt-mines message

at least i have cairn 🥹 i can be happy about that

[vital kelp]

lmao i feel sorry for u bud

how many pull u have left?

[undone portal]

back up to 98 now that ive bought the 38tix

[vital kelp]

id say u can spare like 48 more for nasti

[undone portal]

not today satan

[ashen surge]

Does the ambience synesthesia pack thingy rerun every year?

[half void]

should i... my first lvl 80 E1 operator

[proper ether]

i dont have any good caster beside "amiya" as a new play should i try to pull for nymph?

[vital kelp]

only e1 80 if ur going to e2 soon

[half void]

im grinding for the E2 materials for ulpianus

[vital kelp]

prep the e2 mat before going e1 80, stay at e1 50 is good

[half void]

ehh... im around there

i only need the chips

[pallid basin]

Should i get proviso for base

[undone portal]

never pull on rotating standard banner, rates suck

[undone portal]

yes, but i question how
see above

[vital kelp]

does en get one farming event per months roughly? 2 event between lim banner seems to be the trend

[undone portal]

approximately

[vital kelp]

so every 3 months u have like, 5(2+2+1) weeks of dead time

[undone portal]

gotta get in those redcerts/chips somehow

[obtuse obsidian]

getting priveso should be either through random off rate or just wait those 5* selecteros with her

wasting pulls for a bit more lmd income aint worth it tbh

[undone portal]

-# still in disbelief tw got tfn6 before global

[vital kelp]

man what the flip 😭 im so jealous

[undone portal]

yea how does tw afford the monthly redcert modblocks

[obtuse obsidian]

they will skip retracing our steps forever

[vital kelp]

i dont

[undone portal]

yea that was my worry

[vital kelp]

well i do, but like only when im low

i havent been struggling too much with it, since i dont mod bad operators

[undone portal]

global/cn have enough time to just buy them every month consistently

[grim tree]

What is tfn6? Trials for Navigator?

[proven kelp]

I wish EN had the TW treatment

[vital kelp]

60 effective hours in trading post is roughly... 30k lmd? in one trading post on average i mean

assuming like 100% efficiency thats like 30 hours

[undone portal]

you wish oblivion upon us all

[grim tree]

How come tw got it before global? At what cost?

[vital kelp]

i wish oblivionis upon me-

[proven kelp]

Survival of the fittest

[vital kelp]

people say its 1200 rock and 960k LMD for 10 pulls, but they dont account for the hours their trading post their trading posts lose

its 600 hours of trading...

[grim tree]

Why? Is TW server good? I don't think having TFW before global can be considered an advantage.

[undone portal]

tw having fucked up scheduling as usual, on their ongoing quest to catch up to cn
the cost is that theyve moved onto thornsalt rerun and still havent gotten silveralt/pramalt yet

[rain forge]

It’s ok we have more time to save up compared to tw

[grim tree]

Man, I'd hate to be on their server then

[rain forge]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY’RE ON THORNSALT WITHOUT SA2/PRAM2

[pallid basin]

When kal sit ok kernel headhuny

[grim tree]

Rerun

[vital kelp]

dw

tomorrow we finish thornalt and move onto lappter

[rain forge]

some day

[undone portal]

what the hell 🥹

[rain forge]

that’s messed up brah

[vital kelp]

7 hours left, then we get lappter

after lappter we then get pram2

[undone portal]

des it was mon3tr x nasti a few hours ago what happened

[rain forge]

thorns2 rerun before pram2 is wild as shit

[grim tree]

Is that 0 because you spent it all, or because you didn't touch?

[vital kelp]

0 because i cleared shop

[rain forge]

between the two crackships mon3 x nasti and mon3 x arturia mon3 x arturia is superior

[grim tree]

Did global even get Thornstar rerun yet?

[vital kelp]

i always clear all event shop, then go back to 1-7 mine

[undone portal]

no lmao

[grim tree]

Why 1-7? Don't tell me you're farming pulls???

[proven kelp]

We already got Ave Collab, the delay has already served it's purpose. No uses delaying the contents that doesn't matter

[grim tree]

That's so fcked up

[vital kelp]

i am farming pulls

i know what i am doing

you shouldnt farm pulls if u dont know what ur doing

in fact im writing a guide so people knows what they are doing

[static widget]

it only for late game players right

[proven kelp]

Or desperate people

[static widget]

cuz i too wanna farm pulls but i heard it 100% cripples ur account progression :3

[icy dew]

late/end game players dont even pull farm

[proven kelp]

I do

What's the point of resources if you don't have things to use it on

[static widget]

ah yea that too

[undone portal]

1200 rocks + 960k lmd = 10 pulls
you can decide if thats worth

[static widget]

yea no shot

maybe in 5 years time when 80% of my roster is maxed or smt

[vital kelp]

its more like 1.2m lmd

cuz ur losing 600 hours from trading post making lmd

[icy dew]

this^, I rather save that lmd for leveling new ops.

[grim tree]

I have the opposite problem, I have lots of operators to be raised but very few resources, that's why I can't farm 1-7

[vital kelp]

everyone missed this important detail bruh

[undone portal]

1200 rocks sounds so insurmountable rn after cairn just rendered my rock supply nil

[cloud gulch]

Did Midnight's JP VA change??

[lunar apex]

tw server kinda evil, limited banner is 3 months apart but this one run the events between them

[proven kelp]

Tf a midnight

[grim tree]

Why the Cairn obsession though? She's just a 5*

[undone portal]

happened a while ago. old va made the mistake of visiting a certain politically relevant shrine

[lunar apex]

3 star lord guard

[icy dew]

so it was another shrine related incident again?

[undone portal]

im just building her because shes cute wouldnt suggest e2ing her

[proven kelp]

[vital kelp]

whats the sanity to red cert ratio?

[left tulip]

I don’t see how one is better than the other if in both cases it’s "hot girl you like" + "hot girl you like"

[cloud gulch]

I don't know what this shrine is, do I want to know?

[undone portal]

30sanity = 20-22certs

[vital kelp]

whats the chances of 20-22 respectively

[undone portal]

see theres this thing called google

[rain forge]

hot girl i like a lot + hot girl i like a lot vs hot girl I like a lot + hot girl I like

[vital kelp]

i know its 20-22 but whats the odds for each

[pine plover]

sometimes you get 23 very rarely

[undone portal]

21 average, its like 80%ish i think

[grim tree]

This is why I can't bring myself to actively farm red certs

[near temple]

which will Nasti become a standard op or limited op ?

[cloud gulch]

It's not like I remember the previous VA's name to google it tbh

[nimble kite]

30 Sanity = 20-22 RedCerts (Average as 21).

[undone portal]

see theres this thing called arknights.wiki.gg

[grim tree]

Nasti was always a standard

[vital kelp]

i see, so around 600 sanity each months farming red cert will suffice for the mod blocks?

[icy dew]

there is no limited text on the banner, a normal standardop

[near temple]

oh ok ty

[nimble kite]

120×4=480 for all Mod Blocks buyout.

[undone portal]

dont forget that you get some redcerts through dailies

[pine plover]

650-720 sanity

[vital kelp]

which is 720 sanity roughly, minus mission income

[dusty vortex]

does anyone know the cost of pram alt s2 m3?

[icy dew]

i think the daily's redcert go to buying chip glue dont know if you want to include that in mod block's cost

[undone portal]

chipglue cost is variable on your own build habits, modblocks should be a constant thing

[undone portal]

check wiki

[nimble kite]

45 SP.

[left tulip]

So is alloy particularly better than poly to farm

[undone portal]

efficiencys about the same, alloy slightly better
just dont farm crystal here

[sly compass]

I didn't see this in the event FAQ but what is the best level to farm for materials / event points?

[nimble kite]

Yes. At least because Poly can be crafted from lower tiers, Alloys cannot be.

[nimble kite]

Btw, as a rule, how many Crystaline would you keep in stock? Without planner.

[undone portal]

i dont feel comfy without at least 70 of everything

[left tulip]

I see

[nimble kite]

Then I have to Crystaline

[left tulip]

Lowkey tho it’s mad annoying when it’s not guaranteed drop

[pine plover]

T5 crystalline is common ass bitter

[vital kelp]

150+ for me

when i get out of an event i should have 150 of each farmable material there, this will last me until next farmable event

[undone portal]

i dont know how one would even stockpile that much

[vital kelp]

u have some from the leftover of last farmable era

[undone portal]

though i cant survive a day in this game without actively working on building someone so

[vital kelp]

what was the rateup on chapter 15 release?

[urban sleet]

Mon3

[undone portal]

story chapters dont really have rateup items. its like vignette events, farm what you need
i stockpiled nodules back then

[craggy belfry]

I Wana build another air killer and my main air are
Pramnix alter
And wisadel

I do use raidan but the summon chain setup is not viable in most state

Any suggestions

[proven kelp]

ch14 did

[obtuse obsidian]

conisder typhon

[vital kelp]

im trying to see a trend with event to really give advice on amount of dead week and sparable sanity based on 3 week cycles

do u all reckon its reasonable to say roughly 2 event, 1 lim, 1 rerun?

[undone portal]

i take it ch17 does too? also being a 3week event

[obtuse obsidian]

also work on your base bro

[vital kelp]

2 normal event, 1 lim, 1 rerun, vignette and story count as dead so whatever

[nimble kite]

From SixStars, I see Typhon as AFK killer, for lighter drone would choose KroosAlter.

[obtuse obsidian]

lighter drone tbh just raise og kroos

but first do that vermail bro and check /baseskills

[vital kelp]

thoughts?

im trying to make a orundum farming guide custom for en server ahhh

[dusty vortex]

this worth it right?

[vital kelp]

yes

[static imp]

which skill should i m3 for big ol skybox?

[vital kelp]

the more i do the maths the more horrible orundum farming is

doing my calculation of proper orundum farming you are only making 7.5 pulls every 3 months

[limpid needle]

Guys, for some reason the official site isn’t working

https://www.arknights.global/comic_detail?comicId=3&chapter=1

Idk if it’s just me but I’m getting a blank screen

[wraith sentinel]

Are you sure that's the right link? The comics are working for me if you go to them directly from the main site.

[chrome tiger]

why are you asking us we dont run the website 😭
Also that might be decrepit link

[limpid needle]

Looking up the main site was the first thing I did. It’s not working for me either

[autumn kettle]

Just checked and the problem is what comic are you gonna read?

[limpid needle]

Rhine Lab manga. Wanted to read up on the lore for Nasti event

[autumn kettle]

https://www.arknights.global/comic?name=Rhodes Island's Records Of Originium - Rhine Lab&chapter=13

[limpid needle]

Oh! Thanks

[autumn kettle]

You are missing the manga name on the link.

[orchid bear]

Guys, which module should i get for golden glow

And what is the different for her trait, cause in my opinion the wording from module x is different but it does the same thing

[left tulip]

It has a higher damage floor

[orchid bear]

Ah i see

[cloud gulch]

Is Nasti module good?

[proven kelp]

Check for module recommendations for 6* https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588958885150721/1503192059597820026/Yuri.gif?ex=6a119d72&is=6a104bf2&hm=f307b201a4cee72a0d3a9d0defb560a0ea0cc231172fe0c221a12a955cb0282d&=&width=414&height=900

For the explanation

Drone Caster module mainly affects their Trait effect. By attacking the same enemy, the Drone dmg increase, it stacks to an extent

The way X interacts with this is by increasing the Base stacks that the drone gets, she needs 1 less attack to reach the maximum stacks for the damage increase

While Y does the opposite, rather than increasing the Base Amount, it increases the Total Dmg stacks she gets

X is better for Mobbing while Y is better for Tanky enemies, X is better for Mobbing cuz you can get stacks faster and deal with them quicker, while Y is better against Tanky enemies like Elites and Bosses since her ceiling is higher

I find Y to be better since at the end of the day, killing mobs is not really a hard thing to do to bother using a specialized module for it. The main threats are always going to be the Boss

[proven kelp]

Check the message above from Module recommendations

[orchid bear]

Ah i see, thabks

[left tulip]

Do you really like golden glow

[proven kelp]

I mean, its cheap upgrade since she only really wants lvl1

[vital kelp]

7.5 pulls if u all out farming event

11.5 pulls if you only empty out event shop

man orirock farming sucks so bad, this little pull over 3 months is crazy

[raven ermine]

Did you consider rock stages for events ?

[cloud gulch]

It doesn't mention her module, only skills

[raven ermine]

Sound a bit too low, especially for 3 months

[proven kelp]

Did you like, ignore the right side of the Window

[haughty holly]

Reading is hard 🔥

Can I ask a daily question that's alrdy listed in pins

[vital kelp]

i did not, but that varies per event and its hard to account for

would u like to have a read at the maths? i dont actually know how right i am with the sanity estimation

[haughty holly]

Aw man

[humble arrow]

What is with Arknights and attracting yuri fans

[vital kelp]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KDFQsin4INCsTFZn-f_CGUMt8KeJdNY3N8fAOOegX7k/edit?usp=sharing

check it out, pls gimme feedback on the maths

[proven kelp]

I would rather just farm 1-7 than farm the event rock stage

[haughty holly]

Ask #arknights

[proven kelp]

All roads leads to Yuri

[vital kelp]

[humble arrow]

Event rock stage still better imo

[left tulip]

[vital kelp]

at least have some taste on what yuri u like smh

[humble arrow]

If your mats on the 3 last stages are enough

[haughty holly]

Yuri is Yuri buddy

[proven kelp]

For what? Event Currency?

If you're Orumdum farming, you're at the point where you have tons of resources, so you're just doing shop for the Tokens, and pulls

Farm a bit of event for Shop Tokens > Back to 1-7
Thats what i do when orumdum farming

[raven ermine]

You only do that in order to clear the shop from whatever you need inside of it
It's more efficient than 1-7, usually, 1-7 is a bit less than twice as efficient rock wise, but you get mod blocks, pull tickets, yellow certs, intel certs, exp, lmd, and books

[vital kelp]

this is true

maybe i should reduce the sanity required for each event to just pot + t5/4 + furniture + pull + mod block?

the t3 material are very nice value sanity wise tho

[raven ermine]

So yeah, you farm a bit during event duration for everything that actually has any value to your account, then you switch to 1-7

[haughty holly]

Which stage is better to farm anyways
Ur-6 or 7
I checked peterYR vid and ur-6 has a 0.01 ish better efficiency

[raven ermine]

Smth smth supply and demand

[vital kelp]

[haughty holly]

Thing is I feel like ur-7 mat is better than 6

[raven ermine]

Depend on what you need and what you have

[abstract mauve]

did you ever consider that efficiency is a made up metric 🤫

[maiden thunder]

🥱 time to farm UR-5 for rocks🤯

[raven ermine]

Sanity efficiency is nice and all, but that's not the all mighty metric yeah

[haughty holly]

I don't need anything that's the problem

Well at least not now

[vital kelp]

yeah true

but like

how do i even know what is worth buying for other people

[proven kelp]

Then come with me down to the mines~~

[opaque flame]

is green girl that in the banner now worth pulling. i mean u know who she is i forgot her name

[raven ermine]

How many of each do you have ?
I didn't look at upcoming farms, but that's something to take into account too

[raven ermine]

I mean
If they're farming orundum, i sure hope they're able to tell for themselves

[proven kelp]

Unless you're rich on pulls, you rather save for upcoming banners

[vital kelp]

its in my title its orundumb farming for dummies

i wanna make it nice for newbie

[haughty holly]

I was rich as well but it took 200 pulls
Now I'm broke as shit

[opaque flame]

ikr. that green girl looks like lowkey Kristen & has the space theme

[vital kelp]

[haughty holly]

Inevitable card

[raven ermine]

Erm
Point is, the only answer for a "newbie", is "dont"

[vital kelp]

depends

do u call level 60+ newbie?

[haughty holly]

Uhh I have 24 polyester and 47 of the cube

[raven ermine]

Yes and it's not close

[spark vessel]

Is Nasti worth for pulling?

[vital kelp]

cuz in my method it shouldnt damage their account

[abstract mauve]

up till lvl 80 you barely just started like 2 week old player

[proven kelp]

Unless you're rich on pulls, you would rather save

[vital kelp]

if they do it proper its 0.9m lmd every 3 months, thats barely a detriment

its just slow

[raven ermine]

It will
No shot they cleared everything, and farming oru while still having first clears to grab is account damage ngl

[haughty holly]

Mayu did I answer a question not meant for me

[vital kelp]

the first clears arent going anywhere

I only went past chapter 7 when i was desperate for mlynar pulls

[raven ermine]

just a sec

[vital kelp]

u could always unlock and just leave them there, clear it now or later makes no difference

[vital kelp]

dad got a war to fight?

[outer ermine]

is nasti... nasty by any chance

meta wise

[abstract mauve]

no

[nimble kite]

No.

[vital kelp]

the thing is, there is no difference in doing first clear now or later

You could easily go back and get these first clear whenever

it's not like by not progressing story, you lose base income or weekly income

[raven ermine]

It does make a difference, farming orundum is using sanity
If you're using sanity for oru, you might as well use it for first clears
Even assuming each stage you clear is 21 sanity, it's still 7 (actually a bit more) times more efficient than farming orundum

So you need pulls, but you resort to getting them 7 times slower for some reason

[abstract mauve]

nasty isnt remotely considered meta currently at least

[pine plover]

what does nasti mod do again? allow buff from device to stack?

[young path]

maybe the player wants their pull source to be mainly orundum they want op for skins

[raven ermine]

While also slowing down your progress roster wise because you're not producing as much lmd/exp as you should, and can't afford to spend sanity on chips/catalysts/etc

[vital kelp]

you can get them 7 times slower now or 7 times slower after you finish the clears

it's not account damaging, if you dig at the copper mine while the gold mine sits there cuz the gold mine only has so much gold and aint moving anywhere

[proven kelp]

You can make a Device face another Device and it will still gives its effect to where the device is facing

[left tulip]

I mean it’s true tho the first clears aren’t going anywhere, you can just choose to go do them once you need the faster pace for them

[raven ermine]

Schedule is not waiting for you to finish clearing the copper mine tho

[vital kelp]

first clear has no correlation with lmd/exp production after you finish building base

[pine plover]

ooooh, chaining

[raven ermine]

Oru farming has, not first clears

[lunar apex]

why not just dig the gold mine then farm copper later ?

[vital kelp]

you can, or you can do copper now and gold later

the order makes no difference

[lunar apex]

[raven ermine]

Sounds like you need both
Do you have a planner ?

[scenic wharf]

what's the argument here?

[haughty holly]

Uhh I keep forgetting that. Lemme check krooster real quick

[vital kelp]

you can get 100 gold now then 1 a day for the rest of ur life
or u can get 1 a day until you need the 100 gold then u go dig that 100 gold

[left tulip]

Star please do the thing you’re planning to do

[lunar apex]

Just do ur thing man dont advise other to follow it

[outer ermine]

does this work lmao

[formal shadow]

it can work

[candid badger]

yea its google play game / emulator, but no pc client

[raven ermine]

But it does
You might not see why, but it absolutely does, you are slowing down your progression and getting pulls slower, all of that while schedule is closing in on you
You were saying you needed pulls badly past chapter 7 for mlynar
You're getting more pulls in the same time window with first clears

[vital kelp]

according to my calculations(not very professional cuz no one bothered proofreading it) you should only have so little sanity spare during event break time, and it's very little lmd spending

[urban sleet]

It does but gpg isnt the best for pc/laptop use

[proven kelp]

You will just download the Google Play Games Emulator

[left tulip]

But you can endlessly delay those first clears until you need more pulls short term

[vital kelp]

first clear does not take that much sanity

like one chapter in main story is what, 1000?

i mean, i did put it in the guide that orundum farming isnt for desperate people-

[raven ermine]

Yes, and how many pulls is that ? Like a bit more than 10 ?
How many pulls are you getting with 1000 sanity and oru farming instead ?
Sanity IS timegated

[haughty holly]

@raven ermine remind me again, do we know what to skill mastery for Wang or Chen3 and if the module will be released for both of them?

[vital kelp]

if you do first clear, you go back to orundum farming

Over the same period of time overall of u playing this game, there is only so much income

[raven ermine]

Just saying, i think it's a mistake to farm oru before being out of first clear rewards

[scenic wharf]

1

[tepid abyss]

Theoretically, the pulls you get from playing 1-7 every day are roughly equivalent to a monthly subscription.

[vital kelp]

why did we even start on this again? i didnt put that in my guide

[raven ermine]

Yes, likely s3 for both, maybe s2 for wang if you're into stalling but that's likely to be niche
Both modules should release with the operators too afaik

[pine bronze]

Hey yall how do i get more gold certs? I need to get the ten roll permit

[vital kelp]

oh right, something something newbie

[wraith shoal]

first clears arent even done this quickly

[raven ermine]

Yep
That's just my opinion tho, so do your thing 🤝

[vital kelp]

(he bought out the tickets before having 258)

[haughty holly]

Ok thanks, both mod3 or unsure

[oblique cypress]

so why are we back on the kidney stones farming again

[left tulip]

Yes pls do

[pine bronze]

Huhh u need 258 fot all of them right?

[vital kelp]

can u read it once im done with writing since i know u orun farm

[pine bronze]

Idk what im doing tbf i NEED 30 certs now (how tf do i do that)

[vital kelp]

the sanity calculation seems wonky, 7500 token to clear out a limited event shop... seems too much

[raven ermine]

Wang yes
Chen is arguable imo
Obviously good units want stats
The upgrades on their own are quite bad tho, it's mostly just base stats, so depend how rich you are

[scenic wharf]

bro started buying before getting 258

[wraith shoal]

that's why you dont buy those unless you can buy all of them

[vital kelp]

im writing a orun guide based on how much sanity EN gets to spare

[pine bronze]

Explain why that is a bad thing

[vital kelp]

its cheaper when u buy more

[wraith shoal]

gonna be in pins?

[left tulip]

Because the most convenient deal are the last ones

[raven ermine]

Sure just hit me up when you're done
I have the basic calcs for with/without monthly if you want, i never bothered to look into events and stuff, i just do the thing

[pine bronze]

Oh so i dont miss them ahh

[scenic wharf]

because the last 2 deals are worth the most

[wraith shoal]

no,it's cause it's not worth it

[nimble kite]

Last offer is 2 Tenpulls for 120 Gold Certs. Which is fucking juicy.

[vital kelp]

theres already a orun guide in #r-i-i-c but it doesnt go into detail about spare sanity n stuff or how to do it while doing event, so i thought its nice to make one

[raven ermine]

tldr value backloaded, you're paying more for less on the first stages, and less for more on the last few

[vital kelp]

also that guide is pretty old, so i wanna make a new one

[proven kelp]

Goodluck making a command thats pinned since 2024 to get updated for it

[oblique cypress]

its okay you can be the change mafu

[haughty holly]

[raven ermine]

click "craft" on every t5/t4 mats and show your need for t3s please

[vital kelp]

at least i have some calculation to support what blasphemy im saying to someone

[proven kelp]

I don't touch #r-i-i-c

[raven ermine]

But how base number big

[urban sleet]

Power of yuri

[vital kelp]

its really about just having some numbers to back myself up when i tell people its not that bad

[raven ermine]

But
It IS that bad

[proven kelp]

My base is fucked regardless

My CC is perma locked with the Ave Band

[vital kelp]

not if u do it properly man

[rain forge]

gg

[vital kelp]

😭 see? i gotta pull some numbers to convince mayu too

[raven ermine]

Well it still is, i'm doing it properly but i'm like everything raised, no need for anything, prefarmed for 6 months easily, etc
I have the numbers already 🥹

[rain forge]

what’s even going on rn

[vital kelp]

its bad value yes, but its not as bad for the account as u all advertises

[oblique cypress]

cockfighting

[proven kelp]

No idea
I already lost the plot

[haughty holly]

Idek either I'm just showing what mayu asked for

[vital kelp]

900k lmd loss over 3 months is barely anything

[rain forge]

daily #help nothingburger slop

[vital kelp]

im bringing evolution to orundum farming 😭

so next time someone ask i can slap this guide on their face so maybe they wont see all the haters saying dont

[rain forge]

no grub no

we’ll have to send our #help hitman after you

[haughty holly]

Me when I lose 900k lmd and can't upgrade my ops because of that

[oblique cypress]

erm

[raven ermine]

Well atp just stock up
Go for a bit more poly than alloy, unless you need devices/salt badly
But aim for 100 of both ig

[maiden thunder]

Brokies

[vital kelp]

your base should make a baseline of 3.6m over 3 months 😭

[lunar apex]

over 3 months

[vital kelp]

Plus all the event shop u are getting 😭

[rain forge]

one e2 60 operator a month 🤫

[haughty holly]

fiamless

[vital kelp]

and daily and weekly and all the other whatever rewards

[scenic wharf]

if a newbie produces 30k or less a day then you lose 1/3 or more of all ur lmd from base every month

[haughty holly]

Alright great, thanks I'll try to get 100 for each

[vital kelp]

thats why i said baseline

[maiden thunder]

30k ahh even for a newbie🚬

[oblique cypress]

like why even orundum farm lets be real
5 dollar farm literally beats it by miles, if you can afford to play a gacha for 4 years you can spend 5 dollas

[raven ermine]

But the issue is not the raw cost
It's the opportunity cost
Of both sanity and base production
You're not making 3.6m if you convert a tp to oru processing here and there

[haughty holly]

Something something economy fucked

[raven ermine]

Just farm oru with the extra sanity from monthly too

[lunar apex]

Practically cut off your only perma source of lmd ngl

[oblique cypress]

okay get a better government

[proven kelp]

Double the orumdum amount!

[raven ermine]

Double dipping

[vital kelp]

i add that to the cost unlike every other people who just do 96k

i make it 120k per pull cuz its 60 hours of trading post hours ur missing

[haughty holly]

I'm sending a third world country to adopt u

[vital kelp]

the 0.9m is already including the opportunity cost from trading post

[urban sleet]

Omw

[oblique cypress]

if you cant afford 5 dollars it means you are unemployed 3rd world or not
i live in one 🦐

[lunar apex]

one in a krillion

[rain forge]

daily #help nothingburger

[vital kelp]

[haughty holly]

This is what happens when the only question is just "Do I pull nasti"

And then Titi release and it's a repetition

[vital kelp]

no one can stop me from shilling orundum farming

its not even shilling its just stating facts

[oblique cypress]

its more like people are trying to farm in game than to farm irl (more time efficient)

[raven ermine]

Farming irl is tedious, i'm not slaving for big corp 😡

[oblique cypress]

you literally are

[vital kelp]

why cant u farm both irl and in game

[haughty holly]

What if ulpi is the ceo

[pine plover]

slaving for smol corp

[vital kelp]

what if burnslop is the ceo

[oblique cypress]

do you see elon musk welding teslas?

[pine plover]

just farm rice or something

[haughty holly]

Omg shu simulator

[urban sleet]

RA3 irl

[pine plover]

shumaxxing

[scenic wharf]

on god just swipe

[vital kelp]

can u all swipe for me

[pine plover]

sure, give me your card

[formal shadow]

oops accidentally redeemd into my acc sorry

[vital kelp]

whatever im gonna go back to my maths and calculate how many pulls u can get from orundum in 3 month

[maiden thunder]

Is there a future seer that can tell me what happens if SAlt event avalanche hits a unit on nasti tile? Or into it?

[oblique cypress]

go play cn

[pine plover]

not even rerun yet or sum shit

[maiden thunder]

I am gonna be a chud if u keep this up

[urban sleet]

Can and sjojld unless pepega coding

[pine plover]

it's just like in this event with levitate tiles but XY movement instead of Z

[raven ermine]

Aren't summons shifted by the avalanche ? Inb4 the tile moves also

[haughty holly]

If ground and high ground ops can be moved I don't think nasti tiles are exempt

[robust thistle]

theyre probably asking if the nasti tile are gonna be shifted too or not

[oblique cypress]

whats the z facing in this scenario

[urban sleet]

Ccb6 will merge both

[lucid bobcat]

how to get mountain new skin? i heard its ra 2 thing but idk where...

[robust thistle]

its RA3, not RA2

[pine plover]

game: you can purposely overweight the levitation tiles to not get smacked by flying trees
boss: phase 2 insta kill

[robust thistle]

so you wait 6 months if you wanna ride hardcore or something

[modest knoll]

Hi, can i clear the stronghold protocol reward and achievements in 3 days?

[oblique cypress]

do not let kotkai hear that

[raven ermine]

3 days is plenty

[pine plover]

he already knew

[lucid bobcat]

what is that? i dont know about that sdngskdlngdfjlg

[robust thistle]

its just new RA

[pine plover]

RA:RA

[oblique cypress]

mayu can you carry me on sp

[pine plover]

solo play is easier dw

[eternal sequoia]

Hi! I finished anni 3 (finally)! My max orundum is 1700. How do I increase it to 1800? I can’t find missions that increase it. I finished anni 4 before anni 3 last time and it didn’t increase

[robust thistle]

rotating map

[eternal sequoia]

Oh! I just wait?

[robust thistle]

its the ulpian event map

it should be like, the top option in the annihilation terminal

[nimble kite]

No, it's Path of Life featured. On AEgir.

[haughty holly]

I just saw a vid of an avalanche interaction
Summons can't be moved and they just get stunned + big damage

[raven ermine]

I'm out today but i can play tonight or tomorrow morning if you want
Carry not included tho 🥹

[haughty holly]

Can assume nasti ranged tiles explode under avalanche unless pepega coding

[nimble kite]

"Undercurrent Nest" it called.

[lucid bobcat]

which is ra? i never heard about it

[pine plover]

Reclamation algorithm

[nimble kite]

Reclamation Algorithm (Sandbox Mode).
The button is near to IS. Called "Tales from the Sands".

[haughty holly]

@maiden thunder text above as well

[eternal sequoia]

i see now!!! I was looking for the “+” icon! Lemme try to finish it!!

[maiden thunder]

honestly the most likely 🚬

[lucid bobcat]

ahh thank youu

[knotty jasper]

is current banner any good?

[obtuse obsidian]

Meme banner

[knotty jasper]

not even niche?

[nimble kite]

It's superniche.

It's literally just create a platform for your waifu ranged unit, ril.

[lament forge]

guys how do i get is3 second ending

[robust thistle]

get the tide hunt knight and keep him alive until f5

you can roll dice or give him 1 max hope

[nimble kite]

Find an Knight encounter that looks at you and either waste 2 Hope or roll a dice to assemble him into a team.

Then make sure he survives up to Floor 5.

[robust thistle]

is it 2 hope

[nimble kite]

If he suddenly dies before F5, fuck you, go back to Ending 1.

[robust thistle]

ig 1 hope is teddy

[maiden thunder]

the ever approaching bear 🤫

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[pine plover]

1 die roll

[vital kelp]

@raven ermine i finished writing it

[nimble kite]

Also yes.

[pine plover]

roll die no hope

[vital kelp]

what have i done

i has became death, destroyer of lmd

[nimble kite]

Roll 1 and get fucked anyway, because Knight isn't convinced in you. And therefore lose a right for End2 for the rest of the run.

[vital kelp]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KDFQsin4INCsTFZn-f_CGUMt8KeJdNY3N8fAOOegX7k/edit?usp=sharing

can anyone check the maffs

at least i dont wanna be wrong on that

[robust thistle]

isnt getting knight like >2 on dice roll

or was it >1
forgot

[nimble kite]

2 or higher.

[vital kelp]

anything but 1

basically fuck u if u have bad luck

do they allow a redo if that happens in is3 tournaments?

oh they can restart at f3 start or is that only a rule at is4

i dont remember xianshubei is too long ago

[sly compass]

Can bards heal fleeing civilians?

[vital kelp]

no

[robust thistle]

nope

[vital kelp]

the reason i did this is also cuz the orun guide in #r-i-i-c recommend 342

it assumes full time one fac + one trading post which is not sustainable at all...

[wraith sentinel]

Mechanically they're counted as allied "enemies," which is also why they're part of the enemy counter.

I think.

[vital kelp]

you can however heal the miner in chapter 15

however they also dont take bard heal i think, so sucks to suck

[stark gulch]

do they even take haruka heal, ive never tried

[vital kelp]

dun think so

[pine plover]

no

[faint lotus]

they are healed when they're in range of a medic

[pine plover]

not that they get healed by medic

[faint lotus]

regardless of type, so even an incantation medic works

[stark gulch]

yeah they just magically get hp every second when theres a medic lol, wouldve been much more interesting if they got healed like ops

[vital kelp]

indeed

[pine plover]

optimally you use wandering medic for bigger coverage and cheaper deployment cost

[carmine rain]

Anyone Knows how to get more Red Certs?

I'm barely getting any Red Certs like 300-500 Certs per month only and I need 9700 Red Certs

[vital kelp]

its gonna break the code limit for hg

[faint lotus]

or you use vendela for her reflect, which murders the artillery

[stark gulch]

red cert supply stage ap5

[carmine rain]

Oh I forget that stage exist

Rip sanity, guess I'll do Red Certs farming after Wang Banner

[stark gulch]

yeah its better to farm it during deadweeks

[cloud storm]

In the new event, why are the little planes so fucking fast and they js do a shit load of damage. Also, how come they only sometimes push the balloons and sometimes not... like wtf am I to do

[hoary bramble]

Read enemy details

[cloud storm]

No no, I know that the faster they move, the more damage they do. Im wondering how they get that fast if im blocking them the moment they spawn

[obtuse obsidian]

Theres 2 different speedsters

One that just speed up
One speed up and nuke on first hit based on move speed

[hoary bramble]

The fat one explodes and is a pain

[cloud storm]

So... how am I supposed to counter them? The tutorial was lowkey confusing because in ny normal games, they dont rlly push balloons unless its crazily inconvenient at that very moment

[formal shadow]

er uh ah um borrow wis uh

[nimble kite]

Umm, tanky unit as usual.

[opaque remnant]

Is it those pseudo chargers

[nimble kite]

Beagle and Cuora are cheap examples of it.

You can also take the damage by bait like Yato and Gravel.

[opaque remnant]

Doesn’t any generic defender do fine

[cloud storm]

I used cuora e1 lvl 55 and she got exploded into shreds with 1 hit

[nimble kite]

Ok, Gravel then.

[cloud storm]

Okii

[opaque remnant]

I’m pretty sure I was able to tank their charge with sash2

[nimble kite]

It's basically Lancer reskin lmao.
Instead of taking 100% oneshot, you make someone takes it.
With cheap price and fast recover.

Aka RedeployTime.

[wraith sentinel]

50% of the Medic's Attack I think.

[nocturne laurel]

Wis lowkey useless on most stages especially with the bosses crazy defense
Phantom and pram2 seems better

[cloud storm]

Would I be able to use gummy?

[nimble kite]

Sure, why not.

[magic crag]

How good is Irene without being compared to degenbrecher?

[formal shadow]

not talking about boss

[nimble kite]

Depends on which type of damage they do.

[nimble kite]

Meh. S3 still wants to hit enemies which isn't productive, if you need to press skill NOW.

[robust thistle]

Not

[opaque remnant]

Still meh

[nimble kite]

Therefore Degen is better than her, since she doesn't have that issue.

[urban sleet]

Irene's dmg isnt good these days either

[opaque remnant]

The best way to be useful is to break your class rules

[urban sleet]

(Actually even back om release she was considered 'alright', not 'good')

[vital kelp]

u cant really rate without comparison

[magic crag]

Atleast i got nasti after her

[vital kelp]

(does he know?)

[opaque remnant]

Were you knowingly pulling despite the possible consequences

[magic crag]

Yes was planning on getting nasti anyways

[wide knot]

Can I ask how many orandums and yellow stones you have?

[magic crag]

Only did a 20 pull on nasti banner so no worries

[left tulip]

Do yall think there are odds of titi CC use btw

[magic crag]

40 all in all for irene i think

[vital kelp]

unlikely

[urban sleet]

Titi is wang's bodyguard in is6 ed5 but ppl would rather not use wang for ed5

[left tulip]

How come (for both responses)

[opaque remnant]

Why were you pulling for Irene-

[polar hollow]

hi medicmiya s1 is ignorable even for IS right?

[magic crag]

She appeared in limbus simple as that

[opaque remnant]

…

[formal shadow]

maybe if the stage is long enough...

[vital kelp]

her use can be replaced rather easily

[blazing mist]

how many pulls between now and wang? tryna figure out if i can pick up the blazter skin coming soon

[vital kelp]

like 100? prob less

[left tulip]

You mean for ccing enemies specifically ?

[magic crag]

Does a man need a complicated justification to pull on a character he likes

[nocturne laurel]

Let people pull for whatever they want
Waifu > meta

[left tulip]

How come btw?

[vital kelp]

depends

she does cc and protecting ur ally, both has better operator for doing so

[opaque remnant]

I will judge you, but I won’t stop you

[blazing mist]

aight ive got 156 now so i think i can afford that skin

[wide knot]

Amen

[left tulip]

What’s the better opp for protecting ally, hoshi?

[magic crag]

Judge me all you want im happy i got both irene and nasti in 20 pulls for each banner

[urban sleet]

Ed5 has dmg reflect
And hg intentionally coded wang's traps to be sourced to him unlike other trapmasters sp he jist dies

[opaque remnant]

In terms of what

[left tulip]

What star was saying

[vital kelp]

depends on what against

[near temple]

is qiubai good?

[left tulip]

Can u drop some examples

[nocturne laurel]

The downside of being usable with yu

[formal shadow]

she's okay

[urban sleet]

Niche in IS
Outside ujhh ig can raise if new

[left tulip]

If there been any past uses

[robust thistle]

Define what protectin ally means because hoshi does jack shit for other allies

[spare jetty]

what she does is deal more dmg

[wraith shoal]

she can protect others for few seconds if you manually deactivate her s3, but that's it

[robust thistle]

Thats hoshialt

[vital kelp]

first of all, she protects for 25 seconds, but her protection means sleep, which means cant block/damage/do stuff during this time

most enemy in cc will have sleep immunity, which means they can move when titi protected ally are sleep

[left tulip]

im glad his dmg is sourced at least

[wraith shoal]

ohhh yeah thought you were talking about her cause well,og hoshi is kinda irrelevant

[vital kelp]

for example, people used ng in cc10 to protect against manfred

because she has summon, with high art res, against manfred which is mostly arts damage

[nimble kite]

Im no glad I have to cope with reflect in fucking boss...

[urban sleet]

You have yato2 smh for ed5

[vital kelp]

people used trag in ccb4 to protect, with paralysis and respawning cage

[lunar apex]

I dont

[nimble kite]

I wanna Wis End5 🥹

[cloud storm]

This sum real shit, I pulled hoederer on my alt on the last day...
#Dadaman

[nimble kite]

Roach addition is too strong

[dire cove]

is Nasti extremely good if you have most of the top tier ops already? i just thought she's solving ranged ops biggest weakness which is dream positioning but correct me if im wrong

[urban sleet]

Typing an essay to correct you

[vital kelp]

no

[dire cove]

please

[spare jetty]

no

[vital kelp]

enemy will come to blue box either way, just wait there

[cloud storm]

You can never have too many meta ops 🤷🏻‍♀️ why pull for a mid one if you can js get a great one

[left tulip]

I see, so i guess the way you protect your ops is just more CC

[urban sleet]

You see, top tier ops cam do their job on their own, no need for nasti

And ranged ops having placement issues has never been a problem most of the time, and the few times it did, nasti isnt solving the issue

[dire cove]

i see, guess i'll just enjoy her at most maybe in IS

[lunar apex]

thats worse

[urban sleet]

Veey small essay

[ornate comet]

Can I please get some advice on who to work on next? https://www.krooster.com/u/grace-fuchsia-verdant-160u

[oblique cypress]

xdd

[vital kelp]

well thats usually how it goes in cc, the enemy stat buff and operator debuff means most wont survive a hit without special things

like shields, interrupt attack, cc, baiting, or immortality

[wraith shoal]

get sash skills to lvl7

[left tulip]

I mean I guess at least titi has one

[vital kelp]

the classic way is just

not getting hit

like ccb3, u had to constantly bait out the lasers on the right side, and getting hit means u just die

[oblique cypress]

just dont be in range of the enemy 🤫

[zealous mortar]

should i pull for nymph

[ornate comet]

alr, what about my other ops?

[robust thistle]

How exactly are you going to "protect" your other allies when all your ops are fighting with half their stats and enemies have triple stats

[left tulip]

i feel like youre intervening without reading the context of what i asked

[wraith shoal]

ascalon sl7 too, but you need to level up some ops for base

[robust thistle]

I know, its titi cope

[nocturne laurel]

Nymph (might) appear in shop very soon (maybe)

[oblique cypress]

so true

[left tulip]

not really? thats my last comment but not what i asked

[robust thistle]

Theres a non zero chance that titi might have some use in hard content

[wraith shoal]

"soon" In one year

[opaque remnant]

Always keep in mind that 99% of the time it’s never worth to pull on standard

[robust thistle]

But that depends on content

[keen hedge]

Does Virtuosa help Nymph? 🤔

[robust thistle]

And yes your initial question was titi, then you asked if hoshi could work better on "protecting" allies

[left tulip]

so essentially shes a solution to one of the ten billion death traps they could make?

[vital kelp]

mid + mid = middler

[pale tapir]

if u want nymph to deal dmg yea
doesn't make em good tho

[robust thistle]

Every single operator is one solution to the countless content that the devs throw at the players

[nimble kite]

Yes, but this niche is not being used even once.

[vital kelp]

she could be

if they dont put tags against sleep she could be of use, but its unlikely for that to happen

[keen hedge]

And does Nymph help Virtuosa? 🤔

[robust thistle]

No

[nimble kite]

No.

[keen hedge]

🤔

[robust thistle]

Its the other way around

Read nymph's kit

[urban sleet]

Even high diff IS doesnt use hee

[nimble kite]

Virtuosa to Nymph I could understand, Nymph S3 tech.

What Nymph to Virt does?

[keen hedge]

Just asking 🤔

[oblique cypress]

something something blender'

[vital kelp]

use s2 to cc so they dont hit her

[lunar apex]

ed2 is5 gimmick tech

[urban sleet]

[jovial urchin]

Nasti works somewhat mid in IS imo, S2 is her best there

[nimble kite]

N*che

[robust thistle]

Wow shes an sp battery

[vital kelp]

cosplay sp charging station

[jovial urchin]

I've only tried IS2, but she seems to have a pretty comfy time sp batterying + barrier

[nimble kite]

We have Stainless already for it bruh

[fallen depot]

is this event like... an intermezzo?

[marble viper]

[nimble kite]

Sidestory. Will be unplayable until Rerun.

[jovial urchin]

Plus, it's not 100% awful trying to helidrop units with her help

[left tulip]

[sturdy drift]

Hi, is Tragodia module recommended to level to 2?

[frozen dawn]

max it

[opaque remnant]

Mod2 level 88, mod3 level 82, it’s correlated to op levels

[nimble kite]

Mod Lv2 if your Op Lv is 88.
Else Mod Lv3 if Op Lv is 82.

[sturdy drift]

Ah, gotcha. I was just reading Roadless Camelot and wanted to hear some opinions here

[urban sleet]

Its either lvl 88 mod lvl 2 or lvl 82 mod lvl 3

[fallen depot]

sakiko or tragodia investment first?

[vital kelp]

sakiko

[robust thistle]

Sakiko

[sturdy drift]

Oh so it doesn't really matter

[nimble kite]

Trag first, to E1, then Sakichan, to E2.

[jovial urchin]

We do, but Nasti has her barrier and helidrop capability for other units if you pre place the device. Not the best but certainly not as bad as it sounds

[vital kelp]

trag investment is only when u wanna one burst boss

[wraith shoal]

it does matter

[fallen depot]

sakiko is that strong aye?

[nocturne laurel]

Both are

[wraith shoal]

it's more so that trag works at e1

[vital kelp]

sakiko is weaker than tragodia, tragodia works fine at lower investment

[lunar apex]

sakilo is a fraud

[nimble kite]

Reason why Trag E1, because E1 is enough to him doing fine job. Sakiko wants more, on contrary.

[glass mural]

Sakiko isn't a functional unit until she hits E2 60 module level 2.

[vital kelp]

shes still ok at e1 80

[jovial urchin]

Can Trag E1 level 1 trigger nervous on mobs?

[obtuse berry]

I have both maxed out Mlynar and Leizi, so are they like exchangeable for each other?

[solar agate]

Does SAlter’s S2 hit aerial?

[wraith shoal]

on some

[vital kelp]

if u started with sakiko u'd know

[scenic wharf]

your definition of functional is a bit high

[nimble kite]

On regular enemies sure.

[sturdy drift]

Is Ceobe worth raising? Or can I just use Tragodia and Suzuran for my arts damage

[nocturne laurel]

Use both lol, well mylnar is physical and leizi is arts

[scenic wharf]

its a massive diff but she isn't bad without module

[nimble kite]

Trag is fine alone. Suzu is drafted only when needed.

[vital kelp]

??? leizi is phys too

[pale tapir]

ceobe is rather niche
you only raise if u need her niche or if you're like new and somehow got her from top op tag

[jovial urchin]

S3 enjoyer wtf

[sturdy drift]

Her fragile looks pretty strong. Is it not that valuable then?

[obtuse berry]

what, you mean Leizi s3? so Leizi s3 main dmg is Art, not the phys hit??

[jovial urchin]

80% of S3's damage is arts

[glass mural]

Fair fair.

[silent pendant]

s3 is arts while s2 is phys so she CAN be arts

but s2 and s1 are her main skills so

[nocturne laurel]

Oh i normally use s3 mb

[vital kelp]

s2 is the go to skill

[silent pendant]

all of her skills are good tho so having the option to get arts is nice

[jovial urchin]

Yeah, pretty uncommon to see an S3 enjoyer

[nimble kite]

Fragile does nothing, if you don't have DPS for use. Neither does nothing, if you pair with Trag, since ElemDamage cannot be increased by Fragile.

[sturdy drift]

I thought Trag does have high dps though. Or does his dps source come from elemental damage

[vital kelp]

trag dps is kinda ass

[nimble kite]

...the latter. Let me pat you. :3

[fallen depot]

does tragodia skill level affects his baiting capability and stun?

[vital kelp]

what stun

[pale tapir]

you mean paralysis?

[sturdy drift]

I'm learning the ropes here

[fallen depot]

NI

[glass mural]

The most notable thing about his DPS is that it's good enough to kill trash mobs and you can place the cat a lot of places.

[jovial urchin]

His dps is 3 digit, he is really ass when it comes to dps

[tulip cliff]

What is tragodia's best skill? S2 or s3?

[fallen depot]

i want to e2 max m3 tragodia and keep him at sl1 you see. i want to know if he is dysfunctional at sl1

[vital kelp]

All are useful

[wraith shoal]

yo wat

[vital kelp]

???u can’t m3 with sl1

[limpid yarrow]

thinking about a certain afk operator that only has 799

[lunar apex]

s2>s3

[frozen dawn]

what is this larp

[sturdy drift]

My physical damage is pretty good. I think the plan is just to stall a lot and kill with my other units.

[fallen depot]

i meant mod 3

[limpid yarrow]

yes stalling is what you use tragodia for

[vital kelp]

Its higher with second mod

[fallen depot]

so how is he at sl1. will he be able to do anything

[limpid yarrow]

the damage being better some units is just a bonus on top

[jovial urchin]

I don't use afk ops idk who you're talking about

[wraith shoal]

why keep him at sl1 though

[fallen depot]

support trap

[vital kelp]

Why is this even a ask

If u wanna do wonky stuff there’s no need to ask here just do it

[wraith shoal]

sl7 is really cheap anyway,just do it

[scenic wharf]

[fallen depot]

if he can still work at sl1, i wont do it

[sturdy drift]

What's your question?

[vital kelp]

[fallen depot]

the entire point is to make my friends miserable

[jovial urchin]

[wraith shoal]

if you want him to just stall,just keep him e1 lvl1 then

[lunar apex]

if he worked at sl1 then people wouldnt have to go specific on his level and mod level

[vital kelp]

This is the type of guy to run aak conviction uofficial on icebreaker

[opaque remnant]

Every single operator is dysfunctional at sl1

[frozen dawn]

if you are going as far as max modding him why not level his skills too

[opaque remnant]

You want sl7 min

[fallen depot]

is the idea of support trap so novel people dont understand

[wraith shoal]

then just keep him e1lvl1 to stall

[urban sleet]

The humble kafka:

[sturdy drift]

Roadless Camelot says Ceobe is really powerful in endgame content. Is this a lie or what endgame content are they refering to?

[scenic wharf]

you can see levels and you dont even need to add so literally no one will borrow urs anyway

[vital kelp]

Cc and cc only

[opaque remnant]

I’m not into nicheknights, I don’t know specific examples

[fallen depot]

enemies with hyperdefense modifier. ceobe infinitely scales to enemy defend

[scenic wharf]

I literally don't see how ur seeing this as smart in any way shape or form

[frozen dawn]

cc for high def enemies

[wraith shoal]

content where enemies have really high defense, not anything you should be worried about rn

[urban sleet]

They are refering to h8gh risk ccb
Tho I suppose it hasnt been updated, the guidemaker's current opinion is newer ops are challenging her existence

[fallen depot]

people be blind sometimes and still grab the supports anyways

[nimble kite]

Contingency Contracts. Where enemies could have so much DEF than Ceobe start shining at very bright colors.

[sturdy drift]

Am I crazy to think that other content also has high defense enemies? So when it says really high defense does it mean like to infinity and beyond level?

[vital kelp]

Stuff that scale on enemy stat is gonna be still goaded in content that debuff ur own and buff the enemy

But ig ch3n makes that good

[heavy ember]

Who should I e2 for shamare base skill?

[robust thistle]

None

[vital kelp]

No one

[opaque remnant]

They’re all fine at e0

[waxen flame]

sadge

[nimble kite]

About latter, as you said. So no less than 4000 DEF, the more - the better, and don't forget to calculate the RES.

[wraith shoal]

content you play doesnt have high defense. CC enemies on high risk have a fuck ton of defense

[urban sleet]

Is there anyone in gen content like that currently she needs ifrit for prts

[scenic wharf]

its hard to not realise a fat ass triangle is missing

[waxen flame]

do we have any is5 experts here

[urban sleet]

#is-station

[robust thistle]

#is-station pins

[vital kelp]

She has 0 relevance in generally content ever since her release

[sturdy drift]

Are you talking about Ifrit?

[vital kelp]

I’m talking about ceobe

Ifrit at least has afk niche in older afk teams

[urban sleet]

then what did you msan with yoir prev msg

[vital kelp]

I think ceobe will be hard to replace where she is required

[urban sleet]

Thats true

[vital kelp]

That’s

All I said

[urban sleet]

couldve said this before to save like 10 msg
Smh being a helpee yet unoptimal

[vital kelp]

Plus last message saying ch3n also scale on enemy stats

[limpid yarrow]

ceobe and chen3 are the infinitely scaling ones
for the three RAcc fans this is how you deal with enemies that have like 17 billion hp

[vital kelp]

Can’t u perma cc with trag s1 and go to sleep

When u wake up the enemies magically goes missing

[ornate wraith]

I can get a natsi later right?

[opaque remnant]

Reruns in a year, yeah

[nimble kite]

She's Standard, so you can even offrate her in any time.

[ornate wraith]

Thank you

[opaque remnant]

(Though don’t bet on offrate)

[limber pecan]

standard pity carries right

lil 10 pull never hurt nobody right

[outer gyro]

Its like a 16% gain prod wise and some amount of drone efficiency (though prov is better to drone) if you think its worth it then it doesn't matter since all tailoring betas are the same

[nimble kite]

Well, on Wang you will start with 0.

[limber pecan]

im at like 400 pulls rn i might be ok...

[fallen depot]

is sakiko the only ave mujica member worth investing into

[radiant mirage]

is monst3r module worth lvl 3?

[magic crag]

Are the 5* vanguard agents decent?

[lunar apex]

yes

[magic crag]

Got them both which one should i build first