help

[coarse notch]

spike

[limpid yarrow]

planned combat > unplanned even if nm vs em

[formal shadow]

Plans are op

[coarse notch]

in a typical lamp run you'll get 23-26 plans, 3-5 of which go towards wf refreshes, 2 goes to boat fight, and 2 goes to t3 egg if you're doing that

[vital kelp]

2 for rolling ancestor?

[quick jolt]

you're a masochist but sure

[coarse notch]

t3 egg is already stretching the capabilities of lamp to highroll runs only, rolling ancestors would be incredibly rare

lamp is highly consistent at winning normal 245 but anything beyond that gets more dicey

[vital kelp]

i realized i need to get better at the game

[lament loom]

Same

[coarse notch]

yea you start to realize that the gap between a person who plays on d18 and a person who consistently wins 245 runs is way bigger than the gap between a d1 player and a d18 player

[obtuse obsidian]

sound boring just do temp only 245 d18

[vital kelp]

i will succeed or i wont succeed
sounds like a 50/50 to me

i always lose 50/50 in arknights

[silver smelt]

ok but like d1 players dont even win d1 consistently

[quick jolt]

exactly

[silver smelt]

surely the gap is biggerfrom d1 to d18

[coarse notch]

ok the gap between a person who has never played IS and a d18 player is still way smaller than a consistent d18 single ending player and a consistent 245 player
theres just way too much niche knowledge and game sense that isnt really teachable

[sinful trail]

quick question, in order to obtain this medal I have to use a strategy like "Sciurus" for the Kjerag team and beat a simulation 3 times, then for trim repeat the process 2 more times?

[quick jolt]

well no because if you're doing single ending you can do the same thing on every diff

[vital kelp]

guys if u play is and borrow rosmontis a key thing to remember is that shes by default modx- REMEMBER THIS WITH UR LIFE 😭

[coarse notch]

did bro put her down and wonder where her refrigerators went

[copper schooner]

[limpid yarrow]

tragodia might be more comfy tbh

[quick jolt]

he doesnt have his own ros

[scenic wharf]

thats for one

[limpid yarrow]

does everything by himself
good at e1
good into all endings
can be fated or fatedless

[scenic wharf]

you need to beat using 3 strategy 3 times each so minimum 9 attempts

[silver smelt]

tbf im not familiar with is5

[coarse notch]

so called trag players when they show up to yellow ice age

[vital kelp]

if i go to lnf the next faceoff is guarentee to be quilon ending yes? im wondering if i should go do it this early on f3 cuz its right after, or do i go bosky on other path

[coarse notch]

every faceoff after petal has two options, normal faceoff and paying 2 plans to fight the boats

[limpid yarrow]

yellow ice age is the money check
do u have pot 6

[quick jolt]

no way hes potgated on yellow ice age bro

[coarse notch]

ros is potgated in talons too

[quick jolt]

🥹

[stark gulch]

wtf is yellow ice age is it different from reg ice age

[limpid yarrow]

you can just through away all your thoughts instead of spending the money 😊

but WE all pulled pot 6 trag so its fine right

[coarse notch]

ice age on yellow toil

[stark gulch]

ohh

[quick jolt]

nope my trag p1 😇

[coarse notch]

typically you dont have the ability to fight the boats on f3 though

[limpid yarrow]

sakiko might tbh

[stark gulch]

why isnt it called fractured ice age tho

[quick jolt]

could saki be the goat

[coarse notch]

maybe but then you drafted sakiko

[limpid yarrow]

how broken is sakiko

[coarse notch]

everything is sakiko's fault

[silver smelt]

sakiko fault

[vital kelp]

doesnt hurt to try, i have e2 sakikp

[copper schooner]

Nande Haruhikage yatta

[vital kelp]

oh shit, boats are flying no?

[sinful trail]

oh yeah one more qn for chat, is solo simulation or team simulation harder for stronghold protocol. or is it just a vibes thing

[vital kelp]

ok sakiko + amiya did it

[limpid yarrow]

yes
luckily sakiko can hit air
unlike flingers

[scenic wharf]

team generally easier as long as no one griefs very hard

[limpid yarrow]

how broken is sakiko

[ancient lintel]

Is lemuen a good draft in IS5?

[coarse notch]

sakiko fault

[vital kelp]

its low diff guys lemme enjoy sakiko

[frosty flame]

Is there gonna be any new 6star op in cert shop when nasti banner comes up?

[quick jolt]

cert shop is based off the standard rotating banner / kernel banner

[frosty flame]

Will there be another standard banner alongside it tho

[ancient lintel]

U can enjoy thorns if u want as well lol

[limpid yarrow]

its ok she solos d18

[vital kelp]

ill pass

[scenic wharf]

[limpid yarrow]

ed5
by herself
how broken is sakiko

[quick jolt]

it has nothing to do with nasti, the standard banner is independant of any others. the next one is on the 22nd which is a day after nasti

[ancient lintel]

Holy highroll

[static glade]

Any idea on what standard banner is after Leizi alt

[quick jolt]

until its in #game-news no

[limpid yarrow]

no

[static glade]

Aw shucks

[ancient lintel]

LnF f2 good idea?

[limpid yarrow]

no you'll be too poor

[opaque remnant]

The ominous roach in the room:

[frosty flame]

Alr ty

[quick jolt]

you can if you want but i avoid it, i try to always path scout f2

unless the path fucking sucks ass and theres like 0 fights

[coarse notch]

sniper medic can take f2 lnf if the path is goated but typically nah

[ancient lintel]

Eh I manage to do LnF and an emer with plan so I'd say that's a win for me lol

[coarse notch]

all of this only matters for d18 245 anyways

[limpid yarrow]

(which you should be aiming for!)

[ancient lintel]

Ye I'm doing 245
Keep failing at 2 cause idk the boat pathing and ros + wis got kidnapped

[quick jolt]

no thank you i dont want to play is5 im waiting for is4 d18

[limpid yarrow]

but ya f3 or f4 is a nice tempo
good balance between poverty and beating ending rng

[coarse notch]

boats path over every ranged tile except the one in the very top right

[pallid basin]

Is it good to get mlynar module lvl 3?

[ancient lintel]

Usually I just do 135 cause 5 boskies lol but I'm trying 245 now even though I'm still scared of quilon

[coarse notch]

no boats should ever spawn in phase 1, in phase 2 its a race to burst theresis down using kal/mon3tr/amiya

if you highrolled you can kill the boats using krooster/indigo/ray/trag

[vital kelp]

did i cook myself taking amiya without any shield or lp

[coarse notch]

maybe you can oneshot the cadance with sakiko actually

[ancient lintel]

Assuming you cant kill candace in 1 stage ye

[quick jolt]

who is candace bro

[vital kelp]

alright i got cooked

i forgor

[limpid yarrow]

if you take candance at 1 you lose
unless you draft properly and have ho ol

[copper schooner]

isnt that the thing you need for ending 5

[limpid yarrow]

how broken is ho ol
leak cadence for free

[vital kelp]

its been 5 stages and im still on rosmontis module X its funny how dumb i am

thats why i need a brain reformation

[ancient lintel]

Ye that's the problem that I have
Since I usually take lnf F2 when I can my hope curve got fcked and I drafted mon3tr too late
Do not have kal and amiyi's medic form is locked

[coarse notch]

amiya uses caster form for all of the ending fights

[ancient lintel]

Oh really?

[limpid yarrow]

true damage is king

[ancient lintel]

Wait but does drafting amiyi force mystery?

[coarse notch]

no, hands are for 6 stars only

[ancient lintel]

Wait hands are for 6* only???

[coarse notch]

er, they're forced by 6 stars
they work for everyone

[quick jolt]

they affect all rarities but only 6stars generate them

[ancient lintel]

So only 6* force hands? I've been avoiding click or humus just because I thought they'd force hands

[limpid yarrow]

ya

[coarse notch]

if every rarity forced hands i think lamp might be completely unplayable

[limpid yarrow]

balanced lamp

[pallid basin]

Should i e2 thorns

[coarse notch]

with your roster probably not unless you're swimming in resources

[ancient lintel]

Usually no, unless you have nothing else to do

Or you just want an afk bot idk

[neat kayak]

when is nasti releasing?

[odd sky]

/pins

[high tusk]

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[copper schooner]

lol this is new

[severe crypt]

We kinda needed it for awhile

[glass mural]

Alrighty, so.

Hoolheyak.

S2 or S3? I'm getting S3 is play, but thoughts?

[coarse notch]

s3

[robust thistle]

Only s3

[copper schooner]

Isn't hool dogs?

[glass mural]

I'm increasingly old.

[pliant summit]

Anyone here worth E2ing?

[glass mural]

Rhetorical answer, Raidian at some point.

[rapid mason]

that's wild

[neat acorn]

[glass mural]

Ignoring the not actually very helpful answer, I'd prioritize Narantuya, then Degenbrecher.

[rapid mason]

I agree, maybe Saria also? or no

[pliant summit]

I’ve E2ed most of the good stuff out now so it’s just a matter of what I feel like or the viable ones I missed

[glass mural]

S1 healing does decent enough at E1, getting damage online is.

[glass mural]

actually wait, relevant question, how mature is your box?

There's a world of difference between newer person that doesn't have many options looking to make the most of their options and older people who can increasingly gun for niches.

Also Raidian E2 absolutely worth it.

[rapid mason]

well, nobody is playing her in general content, right?

[pliant summit]

I have mostly everything besides like 5 or 6 general banner 6 stars, specter alter to mumu/virtuosa, dusk to chong yu, eyja alter, and monster hunter

[glass mural]

Tell that to 1 week old accounts who make the play of rushing E2 out.

[glass mural]

Alright, so...

Niches.

[pliant summit]

Yuh

[rapid mason]

yeah, but op said that they e2'd good stuff, so i made a right assumption that they are not new

[glass mural]

Raidian is a duh for IS6, Archetto is fun for IS, Eunectes for RA for the 10 people who care about that, Entelechia is a high hit count shenanigans guard - IS6, Hoederer is relevant for IS5, I'm pretty sure Weedy? Is relevant somewhere - don't quote me on that, would still consider Narantuya at some point, Gnosis IS module fun.

[glass mural]

Costs approximately 0 resources anyways.

I should format this a bit better.

[rapid mason]

Right. Only your irl sanity playing IS6

[rapid mason]

Typhon is good now in IS with her new module, i heard

[coarse notch]

you heard wrong

[rapid mason]

🥹

[robust thistle]

I think theres a distinction between good and usable

[sweet blade]

upgrade prmanix alter module?

[rocky pilot]

Urban dictionary, please

[coarse notch]

shes usable now if you lack like, every other good IS operator

[rapid mason]

yes

[sweet blade]

just once?

[rapid mason]

no, her module is worth lvl3'ing i think

[obtuse obsidian]

its fun but the cd make it mid

[urban sleet]

Weedy in is3 and pops up herr snd there in ccb

[shadow bay]

can stop mod2 if poor

mod3 would make her snow apply already in her range upon deployment, and some dmg boost to her talent

[sweet blade]

ow

[shadow bay]

yeh its funny for her snow to spread asap, but if u rly struggle with materials and blocks would honestly keep mod2 for now

oh wow kestrel para sim... surely she is worth building now?? 🥹

[obtuse obsidian]

do she even win her sim?

[rapid mason]

I've done 0 sims in the game, should probably get to it sometime

[shadow bay]

she is there to cut trees and stash it trust

[obtuse obsidian]

wow top 20 pionner

[shadow bay]

not biggie but yeh do it when time avails u

[hidden wolf]

Is there pulls to earn in Strong hold alliance? Havent touched it

[shadow bay]

still hate it kerstel want e2 to unlock her RA talent

[frank wing]

nope, unless there are headhunting tickets in the rewards but I dont think so

[hidden wolf]

Aight fuck it then

[frank wing]

its a very fun event though imo

[hidden wolf]

No time

[rapid mason]

does every operator have it and gives 200? thats kinda a lot of pulls

[pale tapir]

no time to have fun? smh

[obtuse obsidian]

not every but many

you can arrange by those who have it ingame

[shadow bay]

nope only selected ops, although they update who it will have per patch

and tbh 200 is just a third of a pull... so not rly big but ig it adds up

[obtuse obsidian]

no op is worth raising for para sim of course you just do those you already raised

will i guess robots/2* are worth for theirs but its not real raise anywya

[rapid mason]

alr, thanks 👍

[teal ibex]

is there a way to remove a rejection from an op in is3?

[shadow bay]

relics and encounters

[fathom nest]

Scheduled server maintenance will be held from <t:1779375600:F> until <t:1779376200:F>

• starts <t:1779375600:R>
• ends <t:1779376200:R>

Compensation: 200

[obtuse obsidian]

scout

in diff 16+ you get more consistence way to remove it too

[shadow bay]

ahh yeh scouting also remove rejections

[obtuse obsidian]

tfw IS3 is fixed in d16+ so only nerds benefit

[dusty vortex]

Which Annihilation Operations will my lineup be useful for? I have other ops to use (mostly 3 stars and few recruitment 4 stars) but no other good 5s or 6s ones

[robust thistle]

wdym, you do all of them regardless

why di people like using myrtle s2, use her s1

[abstract blade]

should I go get gladiia? is she good?

[robust thistle]

no

[obtuse obsidian]

if you just looking to auto farm put pram on s2 in the newest anni on right side and handle the top left with rest of squad

if you just looking for clear put pram s2 + borrow wis or something for easy time

[abstract blade]

I have 2 other abyssal hunters already (ulp and spectre)

[robust thistle]

still no

[abstract blade]

damn did she fall off that hard?

[robust thistle]

wdym, she never fell off

[abstract blade]

so she was always ass?

[robust thistle]

yeah? shes always been the AH babysitter since release

[glass mural]

People really, really. Really. Overemphasize how good her support is.

[abstract blade]

so shes only good if I get more AH first

[glass mural]

Combat wise, she does very puller-y things. Not very notable.

[robust thistle]

wdym more AH, the rest are either kernel or limited, none of them are particularly good anyways

the only standard AH is ulpian

[pale tapir]

it's attractive to newbies because they don't do the math and think it just provides extra utility for free

[glass mural]

First off, scratch the more part. More accurately, just Ulpianus.

[abstract blade]

I already have ulp

[glass mural]

Nobody but Ulpianus actually sees mainstream use.

[slim tusk]

the good AH is only ulpi,just forget the rest

[white kraken]

Can you block those nervous impairment sea flower enemies in the current annihilation with a 3 or 4 block op?
The upgraded ones specifically, the allotropic maleficent

[slim tusk]

just expensive bodybag

[glass mural]

Running Gladiia for Ulpianus is like running a glorified damage mitigation for him that doesn't actually do anything besides, make Ulpianus take less damage.

[robust thistle]

I dont think they need a specific block number

[abstract blade]

ok so gladiia sucks. every record rec op except tequila sucks

[robust thistle]

krooster

a good welfare is the exception, not the norm

[glass mural]

There is so much utility you can do in that same slot, like run another damage dealer, run some really nice CC, double up on vanguards with both Sash Alter + Ines, run Skybox, a welfare who apparently actually kills things.

[abstract blade]

isnt she about to get powercrept by skybox?

[white kraken]

He walked through my fang but I didn't pay attention to if it was bc of the impairment or not

[robust thistle]

skybox is like aerial tequila

[proven kelp]

Sure, but Skybox isn't a RR yet, just a Welfare

[robust thistle]

well start paying attention then, and check enemy info

[abstract blade]

is his anti-air (offskill) good compared to krooster?

[robust thistle]

wdym offskill, he cant attack ground enemies offskill pretty sure

[obtuse obsidian]

they stun fast

[abstract blade]

yeah but hes antiair offskill

[white kraken]

I checked the wiki and it didn't say anything specific about the block count so you're probably right

[robust thistle]

youre not using krooster to deal with drones really

[abstract blade]

isnt that marksman class's one job?

[robust thistle]

she just happens to hit air, you use her because shes a cheap good dps for early game

[obtuse obsidian]

marksman job is dealing with early game then getting ditched

[glass mural]

Gladiia is really damn expensive to raise for pulling payoff that isn't actually meaningfully better than what Rope is pulling off and a glorified damage reduction passive if you have Ulpianus.

Marksman tend to have DPH issues a lot of the time.

[knotty wave]

you'd be surprised that marksman are shit at doing their actual jobs

[abstract blade]

isnt that beanstalk's job

[glass mural]

That one damn annoying drone type that spam bombs.

[obtuse obsidian]

early game as in account early game

not stage early game

[ivory terrace]

good enough for early stages where drones dun have that much def to contend with

[formal shadow]

beanstalk does damage?

[robust thistle]

stop boxing ops into specific roles, roles overlap all the time

[abstract blade]

ah ok. and every good sniper/caster is hard to obtain right

[lyric lagoon]

yeah, damage to your irl sanity

[obtuse obsidian]

i mean skybox is solid one

[abstract blade]

if I joined the game two weeks later he'd be hard to obtain

[turbid ocean]

Don’t diss beanstalk when dense jungle exists

[formal shadow]

flower bait

[robust thistle]

ultimate flower bait

[glass mural]

Deepcolor my beloved.

[turbid ocean]

Nope

Not compared to beanstalk for DJ

[obtuse obsidian]

you still have wang after which do their job
and even if you miss wang you have some shit like ori or something to get broken ranged units

its all about saving for the right banners in gacha

[dusty vortex]

what should i prioritize maxing the level of SA his s2 or s3?

[glass mural]

Yes.

S3 first.

[spare token]

How do I unlock the secret ending for end8-1 bc I have done all the 4secret tasks

[obtuse obsidian]

which sa is this even wait you had only normal sa

[glass mural]

Both eventually because they're both great, but S3 scales better with investment.

[obtuse obsidian]

normal sa only use s3 so never look at 2

[dusty vortex]

normal one

[glass mural]

Oh.

[dusty vortex]

but mostly i use his s2 as a tank

[turbid ocean]

#bot-spam message

[glass mural]

Completely ignore what I just said.

[nova oak]

orchid and catapult alters? :O

[obtuse obsidian]

you have specter and saria for that

[glass mural]

this box is my new best friend...

[dusty vortex]

I see

[obtuse obsidian]

they are the focus of mh story but we dont know the ops yet

[abstract blade]

sa s3 is just a second tequila that actually blocks right?

[pine plover]

[glass mural]

You can never go wrong with too many Tequilas.

[obtuse obsidian]

without module its a bigger range tequilla with horrible cycle

with module it get better damage too iirc

the big range matter a lot

[coarse notch]

sure, in the same way that wisadel is just a second rosmontis that hits air

[glass mural]

Also, range. Invis. Downtime

[obtuse obsidian]

rosmo hit air too smh

[coarse notch]

not on release smh

[pine plover]

only if there is aerial blocker

[obtuse obsidian]

she was its just other ops were lazy to block them drones

[glass mural]

[rain forge]

[glass mural]

Is this what they call... An indirect buff?

[pine plover]

weird that 3 out of 4 chain casters are electricity themed

[cloud storm]

Is this a good amount saved up, or am I still in the loser phase? Also, is it more important to spend my sanity rn on beating random levels or building characters. Cuz im saving for wang

[proven kelp]

Its just a bigger range and harder hitting Tequila thats retreated most of the time since redeploying him is faster than letting him stay in the field to get back his s3, so not much difference really, neither has any field presence off skill

[knotty wave]

you have more time

[swift imp]

i need another caster. should i build her or just nah :V

[robust thistle]

No

[knotty wave]

nop, trash op

[ivory terrace]

she dun attack unless skill

[woeful raven]

is module x or y better for mountain

[pine plover]

HG back then kinda limiting themselves instead of being creative like nowadays

[grim forum]

36735 originum is not even half of 300 pulls for pity so idk

[robust thistle]

Y is better

[glass mural]

Youre in the perfectly ordinary recovering from Sash Alter expected number of currency phase.

[swift imp]

dam who can i even use aside from amiya 🫠

[robust thistle]

Ideally you dont mod mountain unless youre a furry

[gloomy fossil]

Are any of the yellow pyramid things that are upgrade mats available?
I needed one more to e2 hoshialt when i left the game, and i’m wondering if there’s one more now available
I claimed all of the ones available

[pine plover]

Similar to how therapist (Wave healer) are mostly water themed

[pale tapir]

click, rockrock

[robust thistle]

Steward, click, rockrock, pudding

[woeful raven]

he don’t need it?

[silver smelt]

he's not worth it

[swift imp]

aaaand i have none

[woeful raven]

ic

[ivory terrace]

4 mod blocks on 2021 operator

[pale tapir]

pudding angle nature is healing

[glass mural]

Don't worry ogrtard. A lot of people who went to broke on Sash Alter are at somewhere around that level of savings.

[robust thistle]

His mod doesnt make him do anything he already can do

[cloud storm]

Isnt pity for a 100% drop rates just 99 pulls??

[robust thistle]

How do you not have a *3 caster

[swift imp]

oh STEWARD

[proven kelp]

Not even 4, he wants Lvl2+ otherwise its kinda pointless getting him module at all

[ivory terrace]

realistically getting to even 90% pity is alrdy

[glass mural]

If it was, Sash Alter would've come home wasayyyy before pull #172.

[woeful raven]

yall know if any of these need mod

[pale tapir]

what did u think he said lol

[robust thistle]

Youre confusing soft pity and hard pity

[proven kelp]

That 99 pull is just for any 6*, not the rate up

[cloud storm]

Ohhhhhh

[robust thistle]

Ray if you use her
Pramalt

[proven kelp]

Check for Module Recommendations
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[woeful raven]

i lowk don’t also ines dont need right

[robust thistle]

If she does I would've mentioned her

[tepid abyss]

pram2

[ivory terrace]

/pins

[high tusk]

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[woeful raven]

bro wtf is yuri.gif

[cloud storm]

Even so, is it a good amount saved? And if it is, can I just focus on building characters? I get that wang doesnt come for a while, but I have a horrible time with tracking. Id probably forget his release date and not have enough pulls

[robust thistle]

If you watch really carefully you can see 2 girls making out in the gif

[ivory terrace]

just ask when wang banner arrives

[quick jolt]

for right now, its fine, youll have a decent amount by the time wang actually comes out

[woeful raven]

shi mane id like that

[proven kelp]

More than 1 pull is enough

[robust thistle]

Savin pulls and raising chars are two completely separate stuff that you can do at the same time
Idk whats the meaning of this

[pale tapir]

estimate late summer
just turn on notifs for #game-news if you're afraid of missing him
or subscribe to arknights on your favorite social media platform

[ivory terrace]

prob wanna use base to farm orundumbs

[glass mural]

Opportunity cost with actually raising units.

[cloud storm]

Most characters I have and levels I have unlocked are some of the lower ones, and I cant get to the higher levels fast enough. I was asking if it was better to just use my sanity for now on building my meta chars amd grinding levels at the end

[woeful raven]

also does pramalter rly need m3 on her s2 from what i see isn’t it js a damage increase and faster start

[robust thistle]

You save pulls just by

1. Not pulling
2. Doing daily/weekly routines

[glass mural]

Need is always a strong word.

[severe crypt]

But I mean, masteries are a part of the game, what else are you gonna do with those mats

[coarse notch]

it also is a sizeable damage increase, not sure where you got that from

[robust thistle]

Isnt 90% of masteries "just a damage increase and faster start"

[glass mural]

Does my account actually fully need Wis'adel S3M3 and whatnot?

[proven kelp]

I mean, no operator need their m3 either
All of them are also Hit Harder and Faster start

[woeful raven]

yes cuz i don’t have a brain

[robust thistle]

Youre getting a faster start on an operator that cant attack offskill

[glass mural]

Would my account notably benefit from the improvements S3M3 would bring?

[severe crypt]

What’s stopping you from Pramalt s2m3

[woeful raven]

i’m quite broke rn

[robust thistle]

How do we know what do you need

No you dont need masteries for anything, do it if you want bigger numbers and better cycle or efficiency and whatnot

[ivory terrace]

if sl7 fails then sure lol

[robust thistle]

If you think you dont need them, then just dont do them

[woeful raven]

aight

[robust thistle]

Just dont get confused when youre copying a strat then it fails because theirs are M3 and yours are not

[glass mural]

I know I know. Was just trying to make a point to asker.

[jagged condor]

This my line up and can't beat 2-2 separated hearts what to do 😞 just started few hours ago idek what I'm doing

[glass mural]

[woeful raven]

i lowk js wanted to ask if her m3 makes a big difference for her

[robust thistle]

Start learning, past 2-10 youre off the training wheels

[ivory terrace]

2-2 is the slower tutorial segment aren't it

[robust thistle]

/pins

[high tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1224969644683825202/1497131900920401970/PINS.png?ex=69ec683c&is=69eb16bc&hm=8427d81160d163439b3ce5f19de8dcbd7cae27b492367a190366bf9c432752ca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[jagged condor]

Wrong pic

[urban sleet]

obligatory check roadless camelot in pins here for a less painful beginner experience

[glass mural]

It makes her a good chunk more comfy to use.

[woeful raven]

okok i’ll do it when im not broke asf then

[opaque remnant]

Do we really have stage guides in pins?

[urban sleet]

and yeah dont sleep on tutorials

[robust thistle]

We have a beginner guide, not stage guide

[ivory terrace]

stage guide is called kyo or ecko

[opaque remnant]

Fair enough

[urban sleet]

I mentioned 'obligatory' for a reason

[severe crypt]

No, stage guide is called random-yter-with-double-digit-subs

[rigid basalt]

Is there a way to entirely reset/redo your base?

[urban sleet]

right side cant be downgraded, rest yes

[opaque remnant]

Right side?

You can’t undo right side upgrades soooo

[ivory terrace]

u cant downgrade RR HR TR
workshop neither but y would u

[rigid basalt]

My friend told me to switch to 243

[opaque remnant]

You’d also never downgrade TR

[severe crypt]

Don’t listen to him

[knotty wave]

dont

[obtuse obsidian]

welcome to max right squad

[urban sleet]

time to un-friend your friiend

[severe crypt]

wtf is your friend on about

[ivory terrace]

max right 252 is still better than 243

unless idk u have some extreme combo on factory that exceed 100%

[severe crypt]

Btw if you have proviso, you can downgrade a tp and give that lvl to a fac

[urban sleet]

if you want base math, check #r-i-i-c pins

[severe crypt]

I think even 252 exodia is better than 243, iirc from jj

[rigid basalt]

so my base is fine? xD

[ivory terrace]

mine also like that

[urban sleet]

yes its not bricked

[severe crypt]

Might wanna scrutinize your friends future advice further from now on

[ivory terrace]

but yeee deal with ur base notifs
one fac no workers

[haughty holly]

I'm starting to notice there's an excess of amount of people who lack basic knowledge of base and "good" units

[robust thistle]

well the game doesnt really explain base that well, thats why we have the bot commands here

[haughty holly]

True and then there's the yt watcher who just say 243 is better

[quick jolt]

Hi guys im new

[robust thistle]

well technically 243 is the 'intended' way to build base, the players just found another way thats more efficient

[pale tapir]

don't lie to us we can see your username and it isn't new

[haughty holly]

Bro his name is clearly new

[robust thistle]

though I would expect people to do look on multiple guides on something but my standards are probably too high

[pale tapir]

he's lying
I'm new

[haughty holly]

these same people probs watched that 4 years ago ah video of who to e2 for starter acc (projekt red 🙂‍↕️ )

[robust thistle]

something something user error

[haughty holly]

What does she even do now with the existence of like 10 other fast redeploys

Doesn't tex2 do the same job but better

[robust thistle]

well one costs 300 pulls, one is free

[proven kelp]

I mean, that applies to anything a newbie has access to, not just Project Red

[coarse notch]

good for ed5t3
but yea i dont think texalter is the reason why we dont advise people to raise projekt red

[haughty holly]

Yeah ofc there's specter now right instead of teq

[sour tide]

do you guys like this new mountain outfit?

[proven kelp]

Ew no
Disgusting

[coarse notch]

wrong channel

[robust thistle]

#arknights that way

[haughty holly]

Did the suggestion change to specter because people simply can't use teq or

[pale tapir]

yes

[coarse notch]

that was a good part of it yea

[proven kelp]

And Teq doesn't really get much from E2 anyway

[pale tapir]

newbies would e2 tequila on recommendation then bench him because "I don't know how to use him so I don't use him"
that too

[haughty holly]

This new gen of en are cooked

[proven kelp]

2 years and few months later, Teq will be dead in favor of that Titi welfare

[haughty holly]

I remember teq is one of the main reason I could clear babel last stage smh 🙂‍↕️

[coarse notch]

the old gen wasnt much better tbf, we just had less resources to begin with

[haughty holly]

Surely they could read

[coarse notch]

i wouldnt be so sure about that

[pale tapir]

#help message
#help message
#help message
#help message
#help message
#help message
#help message
#help message

[vital kelp]

WTF

[pale tapir]

that's just the newgens not knowing tequila
I didn't even include the oldgens not knowing how to use mlynar

[vital kelp]

which fordatel is it that u can combine with the one that upgrades for the camo on operators

[quick jolt]

is5?

wall, upgrades into relocation. idk what its called for u

both r kinda rare but also just use rise and fall tbh

[vital kelp]

i c

rosmontis will suck before e2 right

[coarse notch]

shes playable but yea

[quick jolt]

she can do f1 in green toil but it gets real sketchy if you dont e2 her before or on f2

[obtuse obsidian]

if you get flinger hand she will still be strong

tbh in general flingers are not bad of an archtype they just get fucked by def naturally

and def dont exist in IS :ya:

[quick jolt]

iirc, she cant do EM safety inspection or EM ice age in yellow toil. or atleast i cant do them with her e1. maybe i just suck

[vital kelp]

im getting so fucked up by drones here 😭 😭

[obtuse obsidian]

did you try killing them?

[vital kelp]

with what?

[quick jolt]

click obviously

[vital kelp]

[obtuse obsidian]

rosmo s3
just block them

[nimble kite]

Click is your only Anti Air here.

[vital kelp]

unlucky me

[limpid yarrow]

tragodia would have won

[quick jolt]

would he

[vital kelp]

rosmonti dont get camo with summons does she

[quick jolt]

🥹

[vital kelp]

man this sucks so much 😭

what is the latest floor u can get amiya encounter

[quick jolt]

5?

[rain forge]

one time I got it on floor 6 during a 23 run

[quick jolt]

you can get the second one on 6

[slate sigil]

ptilo module worthy?

[quick jolt]

lvl1

[rain forge]

[slate sigil]

[vital kelp]

hm

But if i want t3 egg i need to do it before f4 to read it right

[slate sigil]

okey okay

[quick jolt]

you can still get t3 egg on f5, but you'll be gambling getting the last encounter on f6. and you kinda dont wanna do that

[shadow bay]

good day guys... another day another question

is coin geist worth taking??? i dunno it seems like its awful to grab it?

[quick jolt]

no imo its a negative relic

[pale tapir]

the dp randomizer? that shit will ruin your run at the worst time possible

[vital kelp]

if u go snipermed squad is it e1 if u borrow 😭

[quick jolt]

yeah but the instant e2 will jsut be transferred to the next sniper or medic you recruit

[glossy schooner]

Oh? You wanted to place Hoshi alter? 45 DP!

[quick jolt]

so it like only kinda sucks but its not a complete waste

[pale tapir]

here's a 35dp surfer to open your stage with bbygirl 😘

actual ragebait

[undone portal]

coin geists is theoretically one (1) extra good relic if youre willing to deal with it for long enough to exchange it at lost and found

but yea, putting more dp cost on your vanguards just always sucks

[glossy schooner]

Or if you know you can trade it out immediately

[vital kelp]

i see

[shadow bay]

yeye... im just looking if it rly have hidden gem value or it is rly just an awful of a relic... and ig apprently it is rly awful

but hmmm... yeh u know what imma try to remember to actually look for trading node if can do it asap

[haughty holly]

Bruh is it even wise to craft 12 Polymerized Gel for 6 Crystalline Electronic Unit

[pale tapir]

yea unless u can trade it out like ori said it'll be funny for a while before getting annoying
like haha hee hee 5dp wisadel then you lose a stage because you got hit with the 25dp tila

[shadow bay]

yes if u need it

[shadow bay]

have ng?

[ivory terrace]

top medic or yolo

[pale tapir]

top medic gamba kelsey ya

[shadow bay]

ah yeh kaltits already in recruitment no?

[cyan owl]

Nope, and I don’t think I need her.

[haughty holly]

Looking at s3m2 until m3 and it's lwk deciding if I should just premium voucher ticket the Crystalline Circuit

[shadow bay]

yeh but then again u only have medic to work with

[vital kelp]

can u combine 2 industry together for like mechanical evolution or something like how u can make industry from 2 thingy that makes 1 each

i got 3 industry

[shadow bay]

use it if u want.... consider it a skipping ticket to farm all these bs

[cyan owl]

It’s a tad redundant though, don’t you think…?
I could gamba top op only and see what I get :)

[haughty holly]

U will get magallan

[ivory terrace]

pray surtr

[cyan owl]

I have 3 Magallans already.

[rain forge]

10 gold certs

[shadow bay]

albeit haruka existing, we still have very few ops who can actually do res buffing

and... like said... u only have medic to work with

[haughty holly]

Yes and the game doesn't care and will hit u with another magallan

[pale tapir]

penguin sweep

[cyan owl]

So I guess just NG?
How about Mudrock?

[shadow bay]

w8 we only have ng and uhh
...that defender twink for res buffing yeh?

[haughty holly]

Top op gamble is legit an option if the other options are shit
Mudrock is mid except for the True damage cannon thing

[pale tapir]

you have kelsey?

[cyan owl]

Who?

[shadow bay]

kalt

[pale tapir]

[cyan owl]

2 Kals, yeah.

[shadow bay]

thats my emoji smh

[undone portal]

nasti is a 'wait for 2nd mod' angle i assume? device positioning sounds fun but not anywhere near worth 12 modblocks

[shadow bay]

nice a consultation of 10 gold certs

but yeh about mudrock, she is rly just an unfortunate case in modern times

who want a lane plugger that cost 80 business days to deploy?

[pale tapir]

nasti mod1 seems nice to have ig
but mod2+ feels like a ripoff ngl

[cyan owl]

2 Shinings also, so I guess just go for NG?
If fail then free certs?

[shadow bay]

so like said... u only have ng chasing to worth taking....

other consolation for whatever purpose is likes of... saria and....bagpipe(???)(also iirc pool is so shit to even try getting bag )

[pale tapir]

yea either yolo or certs really

[cyan owl]

Cert it is (me with 500 gold certs rn)

[paper swan]

Did you get your monthly 28 permits?

[shadow bay]

nice road to 3 months supply of 38 pulls

[pale tapir]

38

[cyan owl]

Not yet, will be soon.
How long until Wang?

[visual sluice]

hello guys is skadi good

[shadow bay]

oh thats only 2 months... but yeh

[cyan owl]

Which Skadi?

[visual sluice]

defualt skadi

[cyan owl]

Better Melantha.

[paper swan]

3 more events

[shadow bay]

something something she is mostly tied to AH nowadays for a rly bulky statstick

[visual sluice]

i have 2 brajncells, maybe ima giv her a try

[pale tapir]

she's pretty disappointing btw
don't expect much

[cyan owl]

Should be 2 months or less, right?

[visual sluice]

whats AH

[young path]

isnt skadi1 decent for sash2 s2 shenanigans

[shadow bay]

abyssal hunters

[paper swan]

One of them is a rerun, so yea

[visual sluice]

ahhhh ic ic 👍

[pale tapir]

even in 2020 I couldn't find good reason to build her

[lunar apex]

wasting resources just to make her useful with sash2 skill

[visual sluice]

is she worth using or is there someone who can replace her completely

[shadow bay]

skadi can be replaced by literally modern dpses

[pale tapir]

she is not worth using lol
like 1000 other ops can do her job better

[abstract mauve]

you dont need a 1 to 1 replacement. any remotely new operator does the job

[pale tapir]

she needs modx3 to even get the full -30s rdp time too 🥀

[visual sluice]

im new... whos the modern dpses

[vital kelp]

what if i want ah buffer

[lunar apex]

wait 6 months after mh collab in cn to get yatoalt ez

[paper swan]

Very miniscule buff for Ulpianus

[pale tapir]

real abysmal hunter players fully commit and wouldn't be asking

[shadow bay]

mlynar, exu, wisadel... wang soon...

yeh like one said different job in a sense, but her being a dps means she will be compared to them modern dpses... and she just rly just unfortunate

[paper swan]

Haruka is honarary AH member

[ocean mulch]

She is a fish

[obtuse raptor]

Can i buy nasti with gold certs

[paper swan]

No

[shadow bay]

also ur new... how and where u get skadi???

[obtuse raptor]

Fuck

[pale tapir]

indirectly by buying 38 pulls with your 258 gold certs yea (luck not included)

[shadow bay]

u can yeh

like 2-3 years after her release

[pine plover]

it's always 2 years

[ocean mulch]

Free kernel or the starting banner probably

[vital kelp]

a certain blue banner

[pine plover]

skadi was never in any iteration of newbie banner afaik

[nimble kite]

Mlynar for example

[vital kelp]

did he do it chat

[visual sluice]

uhh i just got another top operator recruit...

[nimble kite]

Show your tags.

[shadow bay]

ahhh yeh that is still a thing... the TO refresh

[visual sluice]

damn.... then ill make do with exu

[pale tapir]

didn't it end like a day or two ago

[nimble kite]

Alter? Or shitty standard Sniper?

[visual sluice]

i just got another...

[obtuse raptor]

Getting mostima to time warp for me

[ocean mulch]

Was skadi released during Grani event?

[pale tapir]

#help message

[visual sluice]

what tag? i already opened it...

[ocean mulch]

Atleast Lemuen have both her sisters

[pine plover]

[nimble kite]

Wait, you already wasted Top tag?
Bruh

[paper swan]

How does the pity system work for limited banners?

[nimble kite]

Banner ends - all pities will get burned down to zero. That includes ANY SixStar softpity.

[torpid radish]

can lee ignore the bind from the sarkaz caster that bind ops?

[nimble kite]

Don't think, but try it.

But honestly... just drop Gravel lmao.

[young glacier]

Separated, don't carry over. Each pull including free ones give special currency 300 of which can be turned into limited present on that banner type. Extremely old limited discounted to 200. If unspent will turn into special certs for buying materials

[visual sluice]

yeah...

[rain forge]

[pale tapir]

eh it's whatever
most recruit ops are washed anyway
it's too bad but nothing to cry over tbh

[young glacier]

Ceobe devour this guy

[lunar apex]

Weedy push this guy down the stair

[pale tapir]

don't threaten me with a good time

[carmine rain]

But they Aura farming

[cyan owl]

Suzuran, call your mom to deal with this guy. (Jk)

[ocean mulch]

Mountain...wait a minute

[ivory terrace]

will just get reapplied in theory

[nimble kite]

Gugugaga really wants a deathwish huh

[clever plover]

is nasti worth pulling for?

[pale tapir]

quick someone type /pins

[ivory terrace]

tl;dr save

[cyan owl]

In general, no.

[nimble kite]

/pins

[high tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1224969644683825202/1497131900920401970/PINS.png?ex=69ec683c&is=69eb16bc&hm=8427d81160d163439b3ce5f19de8dcbd7cae27b492367a190366bf9c432752ca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[young glacier]

I'm pulling her because I have enough meta to carry my skill issue. I need stupidly funny niches!

[ocean mulch]

Same

[cyan owl]

I guess Nasti can theoretically make your life easier in Anni and some places, but then again… she’s very skippable in comparison to the up-coming banners.
But if you think you’ll have fun with her, go right ahead.

[nimble kite]

You all just want a stool for your Wisadel

[ocean mulch]

No, I want a stool for Pram

[cyan owl]

Place for Pramimix to sit and meow angrily at the enemies.

Or Ifrit lane 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

(5 fires since Ifrit’s range is 5 tiles)

[raven ermine]

Ifrit lane is a lie

[opaque remnant]

Ah yes, the mythical pocket Ifrit lane, yeah that’s not really working out

[ivory terrace]

chen3 dragon wall

[young glacier]

Sane people probably planning something like Wang, KopTer, other stuff. And then there is me waiting for Nasti and Titi

[opaque remnant]

Truly niche knights

[cyan owl]

Me waiting desperately for Liskarm to have an alter.
She will one day

[abstract mauve]

im waiting for mechanist personally

tf you mean

[ivory terrace]

if he is worth outside of is7

[raven ermine]

For a welfare player, that's almost a guarantee

[slate ridge]

Lee stuns the perpetrator which cancels

[opaque remnant]

I mean, didn’t radian turn out fine

[young glacier]

We just had "Have maxed Radion or have bad time" CC, surely Mechanist will carry something at some point

[ocean mulch]

Help hates radian because of gambling addiction

[cyan owl]

Wang Dorothy is a good comp, change my mind. (Bombs everywhere)

[opaque remnant]

It means going through IS sanity hell

[young glacier]

"Why your squad 4 name is LEGO? "

[ivory terrace]

raidian also stuck being modless outside of IS
beside stats

[abstract mauve]

oh. i dont expect him to be good good i think just like sankta miksa tier or slightly better and ill be very happy

[opaque remnant]

Maybe normal module in IS7…

[cyan owl]

Would be kinda funny to see some guy with all trapmeisters just filling the whole map with traps.

[abstract mauve]

sentence you to 3 is7 exclusive modules 🙏

[raven ermine]

Why would you need all trapmasters when dorothy is doing it just fine
Wang too

[pale tapir]

yeah true I guess you can't fill a map with just mizuki and ansel

[opaque remnant]

Who’s even the 5 stars and 4’s

[pale tapir]

robin wulfenite
oh and frost

[cyan owl]

There’s Robin, Wulfenite, Dorothy, Wang, Ela, Frost.

[quick jolt]

theres no trapmaster with invis reveal right?

[nimble kite]

Nope.

[quick jolt]

they should make one

[opaque remnant]

Ela being a “trapmaster”

[abstract mauve]

i mean ela exists
just like block the enemy

[nimble kite]

Just blocking herself.

[quick jolt]

true!

ok that solves that issue time to play trapmasterknights

[abstract mauve]

trapmasterknights and it's just 3 stallers and wang

[cyan owl]

Totally not a sniper in disguise, what?

[opaque remnant]

Trapmaster knights at 90% power is just wang

[ivory terrace]

can wang "mines" even damage fliers

[opaque remnant]

99% if Ela is included

[quick jolt]

yes, they are activated by and can damage air

[cyan owl]

My Dorothy D:

[opaque remnant]

Umm, Dorothy gives uhh 0.9%?

[nimble kite]

Ela will never finishes my 1-7 faster than Doro.

[fierce needle]

Do Wang finish 1-7 faster than Dororo?

[nimble kite]

He able to.

[quick jolt]

wang can solo CA-5

[opaque remnant]

That may be a possibility due to how his mines work

[fierce needle]

Damn he broken

[quick jolt]

id assume so

[cyan owl]

TrapmeisterKnight will just be stalling for Ela to finally cycle back to her skill or Wang just nuke the enemies.

[hard sun]

Can you get theresa by doing the easy version of the stage or does it need to be completed on normal?

[quick jolt]

normal

[nimble kite]

Not sure, but better still do it on Normal, since you will get Primes as well.

[cyan owl]

Do CM as well, for that extra

[ivory terrace]

or better yet, adverse
assuming u done previous ones too at same diff

[hard sun]

dang

[shadow bay]

just pay someone to pilot ur account with goal of getting theresa

[hard sun]

lol

[ocean mulch]

Whaling or piloting, Which way Arkman

[cyan owl]

Playing.

[ocean mulch]

🤮

[fierce needle]

Whaling

[cyan owl]

So, who is the best out of all the current Sui (aside from Wang)?

[fierce needle]

Shu

[nimble kite]

Yu

[quick jolt]

shu

[cyan owl]

Imagine someone says Nian here.

[fierce needle]

Dusk is in a worse position than Nian

[soft lion]

watch me say chongyue

[nimble kite]

Still usable as wall, so there's chance.

[ivory terrace]

yu the hp wall

[cyan owl]

So Dusk is the worst Sui sibling, gameplay-wise?

[lunar orbit]

@proven kelp would this come to other sections as well besides caster , vg ?
this is nicer than the old one.

[cyan owl]

Dusk is demoted to AFKnight I guess.

[ivory terrace]

that award goes to marcille

[fierce needle]

She isn't even used there

[nimble kite]

Yu, the "Scorpion 🦂 (GET OVA HERE ⛓️)"

[nimble kite]

Marcile and Eyja Logos PramaAlter.

[cyan owl]

I’m so tempted to say Absinthe for the bits here.

[ocean mulch]

Shu

[cyan owl]

“Nian already told you my name, 👞 “

[pale tapir]

dusk has afk use?

[ivory terrace]

wut even

[abstract mauve]

eyja s2 sidegrade twk

[young glacier]

Forgetting you deployed her counts as afk?

[ocean mulch]

I tried her in IS for her quest, I legit need to stack entire ticket with better casters

[vital kelp]

no

[static glade]

How long does it take to reach level 90 or 100 usually

[nimble kite]

Like, she does, but it's still washed anyway.

[ivory terrace]

doctor level?

[candid badger]

doctor level ?

[magic dome]

It took me ~190 days

[static glade]

Yes what kinda ops are level 100;

[young glacier]

I think I reached 120 in like 2-3 years or something and final levels are like 1 per month fest

[ivory terrace]

considering u only gain doctor exp via sanity consumption

[nimble kite]

I need 2,5y from Lv1 to Lv120.

[static glade]

Oh ok well that's a good amount of time ig

[cyan owl]

What Lv to reach max 180 sanity capacity again?

[ivory terrace]

117 or so

[nimble kite]

It will gets longer when between 110-120. As I recall, have to wait whooping 2 months to one levelup.

[static glade]

[ivory terrace]

monthly card helps
80 extra sanity daily to turn into dexp

[cyan owl]

Your name reflects upon your reaction to such information.

Some wise words from an unknown source:
“Eat them sanity concentrations, lads. Good for brain.”

[static glade]

Then I probably still have a long way ahead then

[cyan owl]

Hm, what are sanity concentration even, though?
Are they like a special syrup-y substance, or litterally just drugs? (Or energy drink?)

[nimble kite]

Is that #ak-lore question?

[cyan owl]

Are Monster (the drink) called Mon3tr in Arknights?

[surreal sphinx]

https://www.krooster.com/u/evilpact which module do I go for next while I wait for xp for Mlynar?

[cyan owl]

Ah, shat. Many thanks for the heads-up, man.

[young glacier]

Damn newbie have it easier (for doc exp) , sanity pots +20 upgrade

[opaque remnant]

Pram2 and lem want mod2, sash wants mod3

Also baseslaves

[ivory terrace]

also higher sanity cap fwiw
i forgor if level up sanity refills get updated

[surreal sphinx]

does the number mean I want the 2nd level of the mod?

[ivory terrace]

yes

no letter because rn they just have the 1 mod

[wanton meadow]

https://www.krooster.com/u/gvm what should i be looking to build next?

[surreal sphinx]

which base slaves am I missing?

[static glade]

I can't stop myself from raising every 6* I have (besides some) I always forget about the base workers smh

[ebon plaza]

lowkey though is the extra redeploy time from mod3 really worth it for sash?

[ivory terrace]

helps with s3 redeploy cycling fwiw

[undone portal]

mastering ethan s1 is an interesting choice
build angelina/hoederer next if you enjoy is

[ivory terrace]

sash s3 is one of those skills where redeploy to get back the high initial sp is faster than naturally regening it

[wanton meadow]

Yep it's just something i did for his good service

[honest robin]

Where i can see standart headhunt predict banners?

[ivory terrace]

speculation clause aka channel rule 5

[wanton meadow]

Understood, will go build ange and hoe after crownslayer is done

[chrome epoch]

will doing mon3tr mod3 be worth?

[static glade]

See #arknights

[undone portal]

not really unless you really want to squeeze more atk buffing out of reconstruct. its mostly to patch up her healing output

[raven ermine]

Not really, the gains are pretty poor on the module upgrades

[chrome epoch]

i see. maybe I'll just do mod1 then

[haughty holly]

Eh what does monster mod even do

[undone portal]

lowered healing reduction per bounce, reconstruct bounce doesnt decrement until 2 bounces later, reconstruct atk buff goes from 15% > 25%

[ivory terrace]

lv1: same thing chain caster X does

[haughty holly]

Wtf this is mod1? That's crazy

[odd sky]

the atk buff upgrades are mod2 3

[polar pier]

Passenger best non-RA module?

[velvet garden]

did the top operator tag not work or do i just gotta wait till its done i set it at 9 hours

[odd sky]

wait

[autumn goblet]

should i try to pull for Nasti, or should i save fully for Haruka??
I've currently 30 pulls only....

[obtuse obsidian]

i assume this is 9 hour one
if its less then 9 hour then enjoy your pure stream

[odd sky]

save for wang

[opaque remnant]

Isn’t there a warning whenever it’s less than 9 hours

[autumn goblet]

wang?

[velvet garden]

well i set it at 9 hours anyway so

[obtuse obsidian]

btw just cause both are supporters dont mean they are similar

nasti and haruka are like complete oppsite on what they do

[haughty holly]

do u think mod3 worth despite other saying it's not really worth

[obtuse obsidian]

but ya save for next limited which is wang + chen3

[autumn goblet]

ik, but Haruka is an amazing healer, and i only have Mont3r as a nice 6 healer.
so i was wondering if i should even try Nasti if she helps the help in some other way which is equally amazing

[haughty holly]

Show roster
In a lot of situation it's still a no lol

[obtuse obsidian]

no just save for wang/chen3 way better then anything else

in all situation it will be a no when they only have 30 pulls

[haughty holly]

Unless whale

[cyan owl]

If you need a healer, then Ptilopsis/Silence/Warfarin/Lumen(?) are there.

[autumn goblet]

Gotcha, then imma save.
though do we've any estimated time as to when we get there banner?

[obtuse obsidian]

whale would not say they have 30 pulls

[haughty holly]

I have 30 pulls

[cyan owl]

A bit around 2 months.

[obtuse obsidian]

ok fish

[autumn goblet]

neat, Time to bind my hands with something so that i don't pull

[obtuse obsidian]

2 or so months

[cyan owl]

Just know that you may get Shu from the banner so you’ll have a good healer(?) soon.

[haughty holly]

Suggesting lumen should grant an instant unhelpful role

[left tulip]

How much you gonna have when wangler comes

[obtuse obsidian]

lets not cope the off rate

[cyan owl]

He has a (?) behind him, worry not.

[haughty holly]

Idk I'll figure it out later

[obtuse obsidian]

he will somehow have less then 30 :ya:

[ivory terrace]

stops being relevant if u r whaling

[haughty holly]

me personally I do not care about "How many pulls can I save?" When there are potential outfit that will ruin my pulls anyways

[left tulip]

Fuck whaling tho

[haughty holly]

nice try I'm sparking the Yu sisters

need shu so I can stop having to borrow

[cyan owl]

You mean, 👞 ? (This is a joke about the pronunciation of her name)

[odd sky]

are you planning on mod3 ing him or smt?

[obtuse obsidian]

pass best non ra module is the ra module cause you save your resources and get some stats

[polar pier]

Yeah, I m3 him already. Still thinking what module would be better between the 2

[odd sky]

which m3

[polar pier]

S3

[ivory terrace]

as in commit 12 mod block kind

[odd sky]

that's crazy dude, modx3, i'm doing the same probably later

he's still e1

[ivory terrace]

dw i cbb to either

[obtuse obsidian]

we still need a month for SSS refresh right

[odd sky]

you mean new season?

[obtuse obsidian]

new maps ya so i can get those 20 module blocks i need for chain medics

[scarlet rampart]

What should i choose?

[opaque remnant]

Guaranteed kal with summon

[odd sky]

kaltsit

[opaque remnant]

(If the tag doesn’t drop that is)

[odd sky]

27days it said

[scarlet rampart]

Yay it's my lucky day

[haughty holly]

Nice now don't post it or u will get hit by #salt-mines

[tender sleet]

Mon3tr recommended mod level? Also which ray mod is better? And what level should I build that mod

[undone portal]

mon3tr can stick to lv1
which ray mod is better depends on whether you value her more for the raw dmg (mod y) or being able to precisely aim where that dmg is going by cycling sandbeast (mod x)

[urban sleet]

I domt think pins has latest mod recs, its outdatex

[grim forum]

when's the next event?

[obtuse obsidian]

check pin its based on your time zone

[shadow bay]

if u already have ray current module upgraded ur fine staying it like that

[tender sleet]

the guys telling you to check pins dont even check themselves, I did that first and djys sheet didnt have mon3tr or ray 2nd mod

help fall off is real

[shadow bay]

but ngl that capybara cycle so comfortable

[tender sleet]

I have no mod on her

[opaque remnant]

Ray 2nd mod is better for pure damage, 1st mod better for cycling essentially

[obtuse obsidian]

help cant fall off we dont have shovels to dig deeper

[nimble kite]

Nasti. 21th May, tomorrow.

[shadow bay]

indeed next event is tomorrow evening

[left tulip]

Bro says it w pride as well

[tender sleet]

Apples vs Oranges, I am unsure which to pick then

let's see, Ray is kinda niche now and you would rarely pick her in IS5 afaik, so what would she prefer there? dmg or cycle

Ig you have sp buffs from king so you want sandbeast come back quickly instead(?)

[mighty river]

what should i do next

[coral vector]

Should I pull liezi the thunderbringer or Chen the dawnstreak? Ive heard they're both really good but I only have enough for one

[raven ermine]

Did you check roadless camelot ? Because i'm pretty sure it has both

[nimble kite]

Pure damage, which is Y, in that case.

[shadow bay]

does ray still get picked in IS nowadays??? iirc peeps rely to lemuen for burst dps in snipers nowadays

[ivory terrace]

dun pull standard (rotating) banner
there u go

[shadow bay]

1. leizi is good
2. but standard have bad rates
3. never pull on kernel banners

[nimble kite]

Wait for Wang, it will have Chen the Dawnstreak inside.

[grim forum]

is this like just a normal banner or is there idk special stages and such?

[coral vector]

Okay thank you

[vital kelp]

it has its own event

[shadow bay]

normal event

[nimble kite]

Brand New Event (new mechanics and Enemy Roster) with Solo Standard Banner.

[ivory terrace]

ur typical 2 week event structure

[grim forum]

im new so i have no clue what "normal" is lol but i guess theres something more than just banners

[ivory terrace]

story stages
EX stages

that about it

[ebon plaza]

just play the game, when you eventually fail a stage, upgrade your units and try again. if upgrading isn't the problem, maybe it's the strategy

[tender sleet]

in IS5 you wouldn't pick Lemon, Ray is a luxury pick if you get many snp vouchers ig, otherwise even inside luxury picks you got better options

[raven ermine]

debut banners almost always come with an event tied to them

[tender sleet]

Thankyou!

[vital kelp]

hello i have question, if a defender is blocking 2 target and is hitting one of them, then comes another and due to block shift it is closer to blue door, does it swap target

[tender sleet]

no I think

[undone portal]

yea ive witnessed this happen before

[nimble kite]

No, but IF he has Taunt, he may be prioritized instead.

[undone portal]

ok well one of us is lying

[mighty river]

[young glacier]

Ranged units play 4d chess during that stuff

[tender sleet]

lying is a strong word, one of us is mistaken would be more appropriate

it can only happen if current blocked does smth weird so ur defender has to attack someone else

like if they are put to sleep or lured

[raven ermine]

Pretty sure the target should swap but idr how the interaction plays out
Block 2 and shift one on to the left side of the defender tile and you should get your answer

[undone portal]

tis a joke phrase still i couldve sworn i saw this exact situation happen to my cuora in sp:a a couple days ago

[ivory terrace]

is this about blocker switching target or

[undone portal]

yea, blockshift stuff

[nimble kite]

Block shift.
When enemy sprite moves a bit when the straight way is occupied by someone already.

https://youtu.be/Q0FFJkWOl04?t=3m10s

[vital kelp]

basically does block shift make the blocker change target

[pine plover]

well, they are introducing new block related stuff with chapter 17
Block Area

[raven ermine]

pretty sure you could test it with -/+ block count too

[pine plover]

being able to block enemies and be safe from their melee attack is interesting

[raven ermine]

Didn't look into it at all, but can you splitbox enemies with block area ?
Or does it line up poorly range wise

[pine plover]

slightly make frigthen against ranged enemies more appealing

[wide gull]

is there a list of recommeneded skill/modules for every operator or can i just ask here? i want to know if i should m3 saria s2 and get mod Y

[nimble kite]

Roadless Camelot in pins, but we can still suggest it here too.

[raven ermine]

Don't mastery s2
Mody1 for saria yeah

[pine plover]

saria should be put as self-sustaining tank, not melee healer

[nimble kite]

A "tank for everything".

[raven ermine]

And yet a tank for nothing at the same time

[ivory terrace]

ye if u wanted to lean towards healing u go X

[wide gull]

so is s1 or s2 better?

[shadow bay]

1

[nimble kite]

S1

[pine plover]

she doesnt have caterpillar track and coaxial gun

[raven ermine]

S1 is usually better since you won't waste heals

[wide gull]

worth m3 tho?

[raven ermine]

No, s1m1 is enough

[livid crest]

In the case of ch'en3, does she still share the same trust with her other 2 versions? And if so, I guess when one have and brought all version of her in a trust farm run, she'll get triple the gain right? Lastly, is she the only one that has 3 version, the OG one, second one and the newest one? Excluding amiya ofc, as she's her own thing

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[ivory terrace]

yes
u can triple trust farm

[raven ermine]

yes, yes, yes and yes

[ivory terrace]

or x3.5 in wang event stage
because trust boost for chen3

[livid crest]

I don't have a single version of her yet, hoping did when the banner comes ye

[median fable]

imagine 3 Chen already being available and owning 0 of them

[livid crest]

Such is time

[shadow bay]

question if due to shenanigans radian s3 summons can block the big croc dudes, or any enemies, that only recieve dmg to the blocker

does the other planes can still do dmg with coordinated atk thingy?

[vital kelp]

what

[raven ermine]

[lyric lagoon]

rule 4

[shadow bay]

this way sir #arknights

[obtuse obsidian]

do we even have a map where we can have the mini planes block a croc

[ebon plaza]

probably the relic that can put ranged units on melee tiles

[shadow bay]

im just watching this is6 clr where theres a battle node in pathfinder who have croc that only recieve dmg when blocked

just rly cant see clearly if it also take others dmg or not

[livid crest]

As far as I know no, unless that item that lets your ranged operator be able to be deployed on melee tiles also lets her plane summon be deployed there as well, but I don't remember having that experience the time I got that item

[raven ermine]

That's only for operators, not units

[livid crest]

Ah yeah, the pathfinder battle nodes, can let you place ranged units on melee tiles, as there are no distinctions there

[obtuse obsidian]

oh right i forgot thats possible

might try that when i do pathfinder fights :clueful:

[livid crest]

No luck with croc though, don't think I ever encountered one there

[obtuse obsidian]

i faced them like once

[vital kelp]

do people find is6 more fun than is5

[shadow bay]

yeh coz i can do something more other than being a slave to lamp flinger

but nothing can beat is4

[slate ridge]

i kina dont get it
so blocker is blocking 2
assuming its not a ranged op then it prio blocked
blockshift has no relevance as long as blocked enemy is not dead

[abstract blade]

guys what is the logic behind the starter roadmap?

[slate ridge]

if youre a ranged op then theres 2 instances
you ignore what you block and focus on what is in your range
you attack your blocker because you can but still prio block unless otherwise

[livid crest]

Can't share much opinion on is5, as I'm still beginner there, but yeah, been having a blast with IS6 as my first is mode and most upgraded

[abstract blade]

why clear up to s5-9 and s9-4 specifically?

why do act 1 after act 2?

[ivory terrace]

material recipes

[raven ermine]

Likely for material recipes

[abstract blade]

ah. should I do the episode 4 sub stages then?

[ivory terrace]

same thing

[nimble kite]

As you wish. You may just for Primes.

[abstract blade]

I'll hold off for now then. but why does it say to do act 2 before act 1?

after collecting all the material recipies from act 1 I mean

[nimble kite]

Mat Recipes for newer ops.

[ivory terrace]

act 2 chapter 9 because of the material recipes yes

[obtuse obsidian]

4 > 3 > 6 > 5 > 2 > 7 personally

[abstract blade]

no I mean after that. why ignore ch 5-8 until later

[vital kelp]

wtf 7

[obtuse obsidian]

7 is bad cause i cant play it rn

[pine plover]

btw, who is the worst 3star operator?

[obtuse obsidian]

adna now can apply bounty so vanilla taking the title

[ivory terrace]

i thought 5 has one for gel

[pine plover]

ig catapult is a kazimier

[nimble kite]

I guess Popukar, due to her squishiness.

Won't pick Catapult due to her longer range privilege, so she can reach some afar enemies. Adnachiel may also be the worst, but he can mark for Lemon.

Oh, Vanilla also squishy, but damage as Vanguard is decent.

[lyric lagoon]

also trust farm for probable catapult collab

[abstract blade]

the whole "ignore ch 5-8 until later" part of the beginner roadmap is what I dont get

[obtuse obsidian]

cata is second pick up for 0 hope sniper in old IS

vanilla is 4th vg for 0 hope

[urban sleet]

The giy that told you to check pins is not a regular never seen them here

[ivory terrace]

isn't there a stage in ch5 u have to do to unlock gel recipe

[pine plover]

how is 2k HP for 3star operator squishy?

[obtuse obsidian]

pupokar is like first pickup in old IS the hell

[ivory terrace]

average stats
one tapped by cannon
2 block cuz no e2

[nimble kite]

Low DEF. She can be fastly tapped by buffed dogs.

[obtuse obsidian]

shes not even the worst 3 star guard

[nimble kite]

Midnight is kinda squishy too as well, but at least you can play around with Defender babysitting him.

[ivory terrace]

melantha?

[pine plover]

popkar and midnight have more DEF than melantha tbh

[nimble kite]

Can kill some alone weak enemies, like buffers. Without help usually.

[obtuse obsidian]

sadly

[nimble kite]

But Ig Plume can do that as well.

[pine plover]

plummed

[obtuse obsidian]

vanilla is the worst anyway

[inland osprey]

so talkin bout popukar , does mh2 collab got her alter? i remember the official statement says popukar, midnight and i dont remember who else also are in mh2 collab

[nimble kite]

We still don't know who will be there.

[urban sleet]

Spot asw
Catapult and orchid getting spotlight

[shadow bay]

dunno

[ivory terrace]

not set in stone outside of the 1*

[urban sleet]

That said wait until release

[obtuse obsidian]

it said something along the lines of
catapult and orchid wake up in new world and say (popukar/midnight/spot?) in calling way

[inland osprey]

ah yeah orchid and catapult are most likely to get one , man i hope the rest also got one

[shadow bay]

who knows they might just be explorer and mostima would actually get the alter form coz why not

[nimble kite]

SchwarzAlter :copium:

[ivory terrace]

[left tulip]

YO ACTUALLY PLS

[inland osprey]

surtralt

[urban sleet]

Yato3 would be funny

[left tulip]

Although I want a male 6 star sniper like cmon

[inland osprey]

i imagine those male gonna bring a mini gun

[obtuse obsidian]

your last male sniper to get an alter went down to the ground to be a reaper with a shutgon

[inland osprey]

technically he did got a gun

[vital kelp]

the last male sniper is totter isnt it

[urban sleet]

Insider

[inland osprey]

oh wait r6 team also got a gun

[haughty holly]

I mean they do use guns in their own universe so..

[obtuse obsidian]

we getting 1 in like a day i think

[vital kelp]

ju?

[abstract mauve]

skybox

[odd sky]

[abstract mauve]

are skybox and ju really considered male tho

[odd sky]

lizard

[vital kelp]

f12 is male

do slugs not count as sarkaz

[odd sky]

why would they

[vital kelp]

the +1 block slug

i thought they would since they are sarkaz creations

[atomic basin]

is nasti good for new player?

[random mountain]

No

[raven ermine]

No, nasti is really niche

[fresh anvil]

get something else instead of nasti

[atomic basin]

oh ok thanks a lot

[obtuse obsidian]

theres 1

[atomic basin]

[fresh anvil]

does he apply corrosion?

[reef sparrow]

primal sniper

[raven ermine]

Nuh uh, no more new archetypes, give me my primal guard first

[pine plover]

getting primal, arent we?

[reef sparrow]

but there's gracebearer

[nimble kite]

Mercenary 🥀

[pale tapir]

merc archetype is actually fun tho ngl I like it

[urban sleet]

Merc will bring back flagpipe trust

[pine plover]

would be funny if 6★ primal guard is saria, but instead she has exclusive elemental damage, which is Calcification

[fresh anvil]

bagpipe alter

[graceful mica]

Still no news after Hoederer's banner??

[pale tapir]

news about...?

[nimble kite]

No.

[pine plover]

new #game-news