help

[abstract mauve]

😭

[solemn void]

Is Lappy Alter Module X good enough?

[obtuse obsidian]

Ela back scratching gaming

[astral thorn]

Any idea how long we have until Chen alter or Wang whichevers first?

[pale tapir]

chen alter alter and wang are on same banner

[astral thorn]

Or chen alter alter

Oooh how long til that banner?

[lyric lagoon]

it’s… better than nothing, but rather’d not get it cause it’s lowk mid

[pale tapir]

~2-3 months
expect it late summer
just like every year's CNY banner for global

[lyric lagoon]

about 3ish months

[astral thorn]

Thanks...Will eisadel be om the banner?

[pale tapir]

no
wang is better anyway

[astral thorn]

So its not like pralter?

[lyric lagoon]

there are 3 limited banner pools, go to roadless camelot for more info

[astral thorn]

Thx

[tropic estuary]

Anyone know shop unit command in #bot-spam ?

[lyric lagoon]

like the welfares for event shops? or cert shop?

[tropic estuary]

Cert shop

I wanna know the future operator in cert shop

[astral thorn]

Is rose salt worth e2ing?

[lyric lagoon]

there’s no command for that since they’re random

[astral thorn]

If I dont have any 6 star healers other than kal sit should I e2 silent, ptilopsis or does my empty roster make rose worth e2ing?

[tropic estuary]

The abyss Hunter buff do I have to place them or just putting them in team and I get the buff?

[stray grotto]

Since I'm only pulling on wang and kalterbanners (I'll have alot of downtime to level) is it fine to build Viviana and Mountain?

[safe tundra]

maybe actually finish your "built" operators

lvl1 modless no mastery. theyre all HUNGRY

[stray grotto]

Don't need to currently since all the content I'm doing is easy

[nimble kite]

Neither.

[severe crypt]

They sure as shit are a higher priority than wtv you wanna do rn

[safe tundra]

vivy can be a baseslave if you piece all of pinus sylvetris and thats an if. mountain offers virtually nothing

[severe crypt]

Yeeaaah, you’re better off finishing up your lvl1 ops

[stray grotto]

Doing surtr rn cant do logos module since I'm not there yet want to get my op to the same lvl n sh before I do any minmaxing

[severe crypt]

Are they even m3

[safe tundra]

lvl1 > 60 isnt minmax at all

[stray grotto]

It's just like I'll be done with those mostly and Viviana isn't too bad

[nimble kite]

You're not doing minmaxing right now.
Make Lv1 ops be Lv60 for your own good.

[astral thorn]

Are any healers worth e2.ing?

[stray grotto]

Again alot of the modules can't be done

[severe crypt]

LEVELS AND MASTERIES

[stray grotto]

What masteries

[nimble kite]

Actually she is, believe or not.
Even mod just gave her "mid" level, not "good".

[severe crypt]

FYM WHATS MASTERIES

[nimble kite]

I don't care. Just Lv60 for stats.

[stray grotto]

Skill triangle levels?

[safe tundra]

6 months are seriously alot of time theres no way youre not eventually be able to do them when kal arrives

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[severe crypt]

Yes
The thing you use th training room in base for

[stray grotto]

Hmm I guess

[slate rapids]

Exusiai for sure

[nimble kite]

Like don't even dare to cry if your E2 ops dies faster or cannot cook shit

Cause you didn't finished them properly.

[severe crypt]

Just lvl60 and m3 your ops man those don’t have a lvl requirement

[severe crypt]

Id personally do a weedy gamble

[stray grotto]

Genuinely have no issues doing anything rn and I'm on chapter 9

[nimble kite]

Suit yourself then.

[slate rapids]

Who's Weedy

[nimble kite]

6☆ Specialist/Push Stroker.

[faint lotus]

Weedy, aak and even phantom are actually pretty good for kernal 6*s

[serene marlin]

is there a guide i can follow for some base slaves? im a beginner and i just finished maxing my factory, but my production is still pretty low and i think having better ops to assign will improve a lot

[slate rapids]

Well I'm at her page at wiki rn, just haven't encountered this operator

[safe tundra]

the pin in #r-i-i-c got something for you

[severe crypt]

/base and /baseskills in #bot-spam as well as #r-i-i-c pins

[nimble kite]

Then try her.

[slate rapids]

Oh it's premium Shaw

[nimble kite]

Yeah, a Shaw that pushes far far away.
Yet not powercreeped by somebody unlike others.

Therefore her.

[faint lotus]

Also has the highest push force in the game, so she can push some silly stuff

[slate rapids]

I do like her afk push, really is premium Shaw.

Okay I gamby on 33%

OH SHIT I GOT HER

[faint lotus]

Nice

[hidden nacelle]

pramalter s1 >:)

[wraith sentinel]

It's very sad that the Force doesn't increase from her Masteries

[limpid yarrow]

is3heads will say get the masteries anyway

mod6 even

[pale tapir]

weedy lovers will say m9 her anyway

[dense walrus]

is wang the only unique specialist? Cause i truly do not understand what a specialist is supposed to do other than specialize themselves on the field

[pale tapir]

no lmao

[wraith sentinel]

?
??

Specialist is essentially a class with a bunch of Archetypes that Hypergryph thought didn't fit under the other ones.

[pale tapir]

specialist is just the category for all the ops that don't fit into the other roles
like you could argue that a dollkeeper is closer to a guard
and trapmasters could be snipers
and so on

[pliant summit]

Ambushers too

[hidden nacelle]

Wang isn't even the first mine user by far

specialist is just miscellanous

[wraith sentinel]

Huh, I didn't know Push Strokers had the Centurion trait as well.

[hidden nacelle]

lets them push more enemies basically

[pliant summit]

ROBIN RAHHHHHHH

[dense walrus]

How is trapmaster a sniper?

[astral thorn]

https://krooster.com/u/humor-white-blaze-31oc are there any medics I have that I should build up or any future medics I should pull for?

[wraith sentinel]

Because they use ranged normal attacks.

[pale tapir]

you put them down and they shoot stuff and can hit air

[wraith sentinel]

Also just look at W. Artilleryman Sniper but can place mines.

[serene marlin]

how come ch15 is open even tho i havent completed previous chapters?

[pale tapir]

because some materials require u to clear 15-9 to craft them

[pliant summit]

Just focus on silence and ptilopsis for now. Kaltist is good but she’s more like a guard with a pocket healer

[tawny oxide]

Hey guys i have question.

[serene marlin]

yeah i noticed that 😭

[dense walrus]

Gotta love how it says traps can't be put under enemies but wang said, let's do it anyway

[pale tapir]

so hg unlike h*yo lets u skip straight there

[wraith sentinel]

What's the point of saying this without the actual question.

[tawny oxide]

I was buy reroll acc but i just get username and password. How i can enter the game with that? I need email but i dont get.

[pale tapir]

buying and selling accounts is against TOS would not discuss it
unless you want to be banned

[tawny oxide]

I just ask

[pale tapir]

that's why I'm telling you
I highly recommend you do not discuss such things here

[tawny oxide]

Someone can help me with that?

[serene marlin]

what should i use my drones on after i max my factory?

[astral thorn]

What shpuld i do with silence and ptilopsis?

[pale tapir]

my advice is to discuss it elsewhere

[pliant summit]

Just E2 them if you want. They’re both pretty good healers

[wraith sentinel]

(That's a bit unfair, Star Rail allows you to farm anything regardless of whether you have the map node unlocked or not and ZZZ has universal non-regional materials anyway. I honestly think Hypergryph could do better here.)

[pliant summit]

I just spam them on factory for LMD

[pale tapir]

maybe I'm being a bit harsh on them lol I haven't played their newer stuff

[pliant summit]

If you have everything else maxed right

[pale tapir]

you either spam on trading post for LMD or factory for more gold for more LMD

[civic stream]

boys is suzuran good in a new account?

[astral thorn]

Thx

[serene marlin]

lmd is the trading posts right?

[ivory terrace]

ya

[pale tapir]

not really she won't do anything useful until e2 and even then she's just a debuffer which u usually don't need for gen content

[pliant summit]

Yea

[civic stream]

welp pulled her sadly

[pale tapir]

she's good in her niche but a beginner will struggle to find a use for her

[pliant summit]

She’s still holds up well even today at least compared to other old 6 stars

[civic stream]

i see

[pale tapir]

if you want to reroll there's a guide in roadless in pins
otherwise just roll with it and give her headpats

[civic stream]

thorns or saria for a new acc

[lyric lagoon]

every first chapter of an act is open after you complete the first act

[pale tapir]

see beginner's guide in roadless in pins
and neither, silverash

[civic stream]

got him

[pale tapir]

then saria

[serene marlin]

ahh ok

[dense walrus]

does a module which adds true damage to an operator exist?

[serene marlin]

silverash has been great for me

[civic stream]

kinda frustrated didn't get my kaltsit from recruitment after reroll around 5x

[pale tapir]

me too buddy me too
do new accounts even get enough expedited plans to reroll on top op recruit

[serene marlin]

i accidentally skipped my top op tag so youre better than me

when i started my account i didnt know i was meant to click on the tags

[civic stream]

aint there a warning?

[serene marlin]

dont remember seeing one

[civic stream]

ahh icic

[hidden nacelle]

yes but it's ending soon

[serene marlin]

im pretty sure i just didnt click the tag before clicking "Start recruit" or wtv

[pale tapir]

they have like what a dozen hours left

[civic stream]

my gmail just cant haha

[wraith sentinel]

No, but there are Δ-Modules that add an Elemental Injury type.

[pale tapir]

? you do not need an email to reroll

[civic stream]

im burned out

this is the 6th try

[serene marlin]

doesnt it only take like 5 minutes to reroll an ak account

[pale tapir]

takes like 7-10 min realistically
but u could do 5 min if you're fast

[civic stream]

you gotta play the main stage first

too much restriction

[dense walrus]

i guess there's a first time for everything

[nova oak]

YO HOW DO I DO 12-15 THIS IS IMPOSSIBLEE

[civic stream]

yt?

[wraith sentinel]

Did you read the enemy descriptions for the Rebellion Agitators and Instigators?

[nova oak]

oh they just have to be blocked right.

[wraith sentinel]

Or killed quickly, yeah.

[pale tapir]

I just did it with 5* only, u should be fine lol

[vital sparrow]

kyostinv

Do you guys reckon Shu is worth 300 pulls to get ?

yeah I thought so but she’s so beautiful

[pale tapir]

objectively nobody is worth 300 pulls
if you're pulling with your heart you don't care about the number of pulls though

[worldly sky]

is there an advantage of putting pram2 in tier 6 vs tier 5 for stronghold?

[inland osprey]

can you even do that?

[frank wing]

I dont think there is, I just put her in t5 to get her faster

I think t6 just gives module level 2 or something like that

[bitter orbit]

Which stage?

[frank wing]

eckogen jumpscare

[inland osprey]

damn the legend himself is here

[bitter orbit]

Use this for reference: https://youtu.be/pK8_lFkRLtY

[echo venture]

eckogen who is better. wisadel or wang

[vernal drift]

dont they like have diffrent jobs?

[pale tapir]

their job is to kill everything

[turbid ocean]

Hermitz going to get killed

[echo venture]

[bitter orbit]

Durin is better.

[inland osprey]

fair point

[hidden nacelle]

omg light hello :3

[astral thorn]

Any idea what the free purple upgrade mats from is monthlies will be in june?

[buoyant sigil]

Uhh what’s the general idea for flooded seashore annihilation (that siesta one)

Just give me something and I’ll work it out from there

[left tulip]

Is that the one w the obelisks or whatever they’re called, I just placed pram top left and distracting shit every once in a while she handles it on her own

[hidden nacelle]

put down pram2 and some other whatever units probably and win

[buoyant sigil]

[ivory terrace]

is that like those old ones

[wary vector]

was there ever a use case for ulpi s1

[copper schooner]

which hoederer mod is better

[buoyant sigil]

This thing

[left tulip]

Yes E0 ulpi helped me clear tequila event

[left tulip]

Oh just put like anything to kill the guys from top left box as soon as they come out, for the rest I think just camp the blue boxes and you’re good

[ivory terrace]

it is as they say,
pram2 setup n then sleep

[buoyant sigil]

Oh yeah, those devices also spawn on the right later on

[left tulip]

I actually kept all the devices alive cuz I believed it to matter

[buoyant sigil]

They deduct life points when they die indeed

[ivory terrace]

in anni u only care about 400 kill

[left tulip]

Which doesn’t matter for anni ye

[ivory terrace]

the only time in anni where life points matter is because those ch8 civs die and in that one particular anni that also -1 kill

[buoyant sigil]

True… I may have forgotten about it generally not mattering

[left tulip]

Lowkey the navis one is one I didn’t try yet is that one tough

[buoyant sigil]

Nah
Wandering medic trivializes as always

[left tulip]

Anything I should know

[ivory terrace]

pull crownslayer into hole. classic meme behavior

[left tulip]

All I got is chestnut

[buoyant sigil]

Nethersea brand is quite annoying but if you get like ranged dps and pram2 it’s terribly easy

[left tulip]

Alr sounds good

Is there anything that kind of checks having ground ops like invis enemies n shit

[buoyant sigil]

It’s just not very hard in general even if again the brand can be troublesome. Just block ig

[buoyant sigil]

Oh indeed(?)

[ivory terrace]

the only concern is that there are mobs that

• have inf range against anybody standing on brand
• walk past anybody on brand, the same ones with dodge

[buoyant sigil]

There are these
Dodge + unblockable on brand

[left tulip]

I see ty

[buoyant sigil]

The dodge is quite high

[left tulip]

Ill peep a guide then maybe I don’t wanna get snowballed by these

[buoyant sigil]

But tbh if you can sustain blockers in brand its just fine
Uhh the under tides one felt harder somehow

[modest spindle]

umm wtf is this

[left tulip]

That’s LUCK

[ivory terrace]

top op medic or aoe

[reef sparrow]

can be silenced by lapp

[modest spindle]

I have kalstit so aoe?

[ivory terrace]

aoe sure ig
ifrit or mostima

[weak citrus]

Do you guys think that there still time to do Portatori dei Velluti? Or I am just cooked...

[ruby cairn]

hi, i tried everything all day but i dont understand what im supposed to do (for upgrade control center lvl 4) :

[ivory terrace]

less than 24h left
just do what u can ig

[ivory terrace]

ur factories, trading posts, power plants, etc. except the extreme right side buildings (activity rooms)
u need X amount of these each at lv2

[ruby cairn]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[left tulip]

OOOOO good to know

[ruby cairn]

Thanks, i will upgrade everything following the pin guide so

[weak citrus]

I am feeling hopeless is so difficult I did all normal levels until boss and some Challenge stages but... The challenge stages is the problem.

[ivory terrace]

no big loss if u can't do EX

[ruby cairn]

And does the level correspond to the number of operators?

[ivory terrace]

facility level

[hidden nacelle]

your aren't losing out on anything crazy unless you really want medals

[ruby cairn]

Ah got it thx

[weak citrus]

I wanted but is that hard to do so... IDK anymore.

[ivory terrace]

medal set is a flex anyway

[weak citrus]

One of the last levels I did.

[weak citrus]

I can put another medals in the medal board from this event????

[haughty zenith]

Is there a way to get Vulcan's skin or is it over for me?

[fresh anvil]

what team look like

[copper schooner]

I'm so confused we get limited banner every 3 months?

[hidden wolf]

Yes

[ivory terrace]

roughly, yes

4 limiteds a year not counting any collabs

[stark burrow]

Does lappy alter 'commissione' stages spell something with meaning in italian?

[hidden wolf]

Does collab event rerun

[ivory terrace]

only one: first R6

[hidden wolf]

Not banner, just the event

[copper schooner]

I think only r6

[ivory terrace]

both did

[buoyant sigil]

Does the ch8 annihilation have enough civs to kill you or nah

[ivory terrace]

even 1 civ death will kill u off the 400

[buoyant sigil]

Recommended to camp red box for that one? Considering it

[ivory terrace]

like i said, in that anni civ death also -1 kill

[left tulip]

bruh these dodge guys are so cringe

[ivory terrace]

u can try if u can face tank the ufos lol

[ancient current]

how long do infinite skills last now?

[fresh anvil]

what

[ancient current]

well they used to last 30 minutes

but now it's longer and seems to be closer to 48 hours
idk the exact number though

[copper schooner]

doesnt the skill bar just reset

[ivory terrace]

who has irl sanity to make it last that long

[ancient current]

after the duration yes, but that isn't my question

[ancient current]

idk any cn peep probably

just asking around to see if it's already been tested

[copper schooner]

didnt some one went 24 hrs on skalter skill on max risk ccb0

[ancient current]

yeah but they let the skill reset didn't they?

[silent pendant]

how would saki s2 work with this

would it just go back to the piano after a while

[ancient current]

idk what saki s2 does

[pliant summit]

1-7 is not that hard 😔

[copper schooner]

I think that dfferent no that just a skill change?

[silent pendant]

permanently toggles atk type

[ivory terrace]

toggle form

[ancient current]

oh it doesn't work for toggle iirc

[silent pendant]

you'd think they'd just use the same system for infinite skills though no?

[copper schooner]

I alway thought toggle and infinite duration was a seperate thing

[silent pendant]

if toggle doesn't end after a while infinite duration could just be a singular toggle and it wouldn't need to just be a super long timer

but these devs also made defense a flat subtraction so im not really surprised 😭

[fresh anvil]

so how long does haruka s2 last?

[ancient current]

as long as any other infinite duration skill

[copper schooner]

wouldn't it technically be until ur device explode real talk

[fresh anvil]

like ulpianus s2?
pram2 s2?

[ancient current]

yes

they're all normal infinite duration skills

[ivory terrace]

like thorns s3, typhon s2

[fresh anvil]

cool it…

[ivory terrace]

because haru s2 need to cycle skill b4 u get the inf duration part iirc

[ancient current]

yes it's a 2-way activation for infi like thorns s3

doesn't modify its end duration

[fresh anvil]

just more button pressing than something like ulpianus s2 got it

[ancient current]

my friend's testing this and this is after 2 hours, but idrk if it extends to like 48 hours or something

[ivory terrace]

who'd be willing to sac 1-2 daily resets for that
and that equiv of sanity regen, base worker morale

[fresh anvil]

so is it possible to like let it be for 18 hours

[ancient current]

sure

[silent pendant]

i mean thats not THAT bad

[nova oak]

nasti isnt really a pull unless my account is really set for right

[knotty schooner]

what's there to test about unlimited skills
don't they just run out and retrigger every 30 minutes

[silent pendant]

she isn't a pull in general because wang is soon (unless you genuinely just do not care about wang)

[ancient current]

no, way longer than that. read above

30 minutes was in the past. they changed it

[fresh anvil]

what’s the sanity max amount

and at what level do i hit the sanity max by the way im at level 105 with 177 sanity

[knotty schooner]

huh. i see

[ancient current]

180 is the max

[fresh anvil]

and im guessing that 120 is the level ill hit that amount?

[ivory terrace]

try 118

[fresh anvil]

ok

[strange cedar]

if its unlocked does that i mean i beat it? or that ive only seen the boss. i dont recall my is2 progress what so ever

[ebon wraith]

Does it matter what event stage you grind or is it always 1 event currency per sanity?

[ancient current]

it's always 1 per 1 sanity. but you usually farm the stages with the best material drop efficiency

[copper schooner]

google play game arknights is official?

[ebon wraith]

Got it, thanks

[opaque epoch]

yes

[fresh anvil]

what stage is this by the way

[ancient current]

OF-1

[fresh anvil]

ah heart of surging flame

[modest spindle]

"Very niche operator" can I replace Amiya in my beginner squad with her? Double casters alongside Mantra

[ancient current]

she's fine enough for beginners at e1

[strange cedar]

shes rlly good dps but her tiles are really awkward, id jsut stick with amiya

you can beat anything early game with amiya anyways

[ancient current]

pre e2 amiya is pretty mediocre so it's completely fine to replace her

(after e2 as well )

[modest spindle]

I'm just at E1 level focusing on the base for now so I'll be stuck here for some time I think

[strange cedar]

yea dont use ifrit rn its a drain of resources

like the difference itll make in dps does not matter rn and shes harder to use than amiya

[modest spindle]

yeah it's kinda weird is there an operator that allows you deploy a ranged unit on the ground?

[hoary bramble]

#game-news message is this an old event getting added to side story or new event with good event shop?

[ivory terrace]

only IS relics
or some event/stage gimmick lol

[ancient current]

it's a brand new event

[ancient current]

Ela with her delta module (for herself)

[proven kelp]

Upcoming Nasti allows you to create a Ranged Tile on Melee Tiles

[strange cedar]

oh wait is this for IS? i thought when u said beginner squad u meant u were like new to game

[modest spindle]

Yes, idk what IS is even

[strange cedar]

wait nvm ur new, IS is a later endgame game mode

[fresh anvil]

lin module where she can deploy herself on ground tile where

[strange cedar]

idk why im getting ? pinged lmfao why the hell would you dump resources into ifrit early game

[ancient current]

IS is perfectly doable for a newbie
just have to get used to it and be committed a bit lol

[proven kelp]

Because she's better than low rarity junk that they will use lol?

[strange cedar]

they literally said theyre prio raising bsae units for passive income

anything cna steam roll story and they can raise ifrit mid game

no reaso to use lmd and xp on her rn

[left tulip]

i just tried to check! its weird because the beginning does seem to be, but there are some random symbols i cant understand
what i found is "crepil(symbol1)il(symbol2)upo 321 boom"
the only thing i could guess maybe is "crepi il lupo" which means "may the wolf die" which is also a reference to an italian saying

[proven kelp]

It's just E1, it's stupidly cheap compared to how much Ifrit outperform literally any low rarity they have access to

[modest spindle]

ngl so far I don't remember a stage where a single line mage unit would work lol

[ancient current]

I agree that e1 ifrit isn't a necessity, they'll do fine without
but she'll do better than amiya at least and she isn't a bad unit to build

[abstract mauve]

all she needs is 1 tile

ifrit will easily outperform any low rarity caster and even many 6* ones

[neat acorn]

[abstract mauve]

it's not even close bruh

[proven kelp]

And there's a difference between

yea dont use ifrit rn its a drain of resources

And raising her later

I agree that they should prioritize base, but that's not a reason to not use Ifrit later when they have the time

[strange cedar]

what do you think the rn means

i even especially said that shes rlly good dps

[ivory terrace]

neither is doing amiya

[azure pivot]

Ifrit 34 dp is a bit rough, but her s2 has been great when she has a lane and the stage gets late enough. Cant wait ti deploy her with just 3 dp with sash2 s3 lol

[strange cedar]

dude whatever its pointless argument. do what you want ifd you have resources to spare rn yes you can raise her

youll want to raise her anyways

[left tulip]

maybe a heart and an umbrella? idk why theyre here tho lol i guess just do add variety do the puzzle

[neat acorn]

Looks like a heart

Probably just for some fun variations

[modest spindle]

ok I'll invest in her then at least up to the same level as my other characters, the problem rn is I need to clear stage 4 resources for base upgrades but my characters are getting one shoted there so gotta do some leveling

[ancient current]

people forgetting this is a perfectly fine and normal use of ifrit:

[proven kelp]

Just do RA for resources

[modest spindle]

what's RA

[fresh anvil]

reclamation algorithm

[neat acorn]

Is gives a bunch of stuff too

[abstract mauve]

gamemode that can be cheesed for a lot of resources. wouldnt personally recommend doing it rn but if you need the resources it can be done

[fresh anvil]

on this tab

[proven kelp]

Reclamation Algorithm

Check this for guide
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588958885150721/1503192059597820026/Yuri.gif?ex=6a03c5b2&is=6a027432&hm=f5b900b4760d8547b38cd26f53bc9a33472fac8e808bbe3274ef34a0ab8d9821&=&width=414&height=900

[abstract mauve]

THE SAND

[tranquil inlet]

hello, which module for gladi, i am tending to second due to higher shift strenght?

[fresh anvil]

first.

[proven kelp]

Ril
It's funny to me when people complain about Ifrit tiles being hard to use when you literally just dump her ass in front of a defender and she will still shred shit on it lol

[abstract mauve]

what do you use gladiia for?

[ancient current]

aoe caster but not shit

[tranquil inlet]

tbf not much, since i use rope for everything, but i am maxing my 6stars rn

[fresh anvil]

can we have a look

[abstract mauve]

you dont have to get mod if you dont plan to use her

[proven kelp]

Just don't give her module then

If you really want to max things out, then her AH module
Unless you really want to play with shift

[modest spindle]

Will check it out, thank you. Honestly I wasn't expecting the community for this game to be this active

[proven kelp]

[fresh anvil]

can you place her a little bit more to the right

[abstract mauve]

i think the game allows it yeah

[ancient current]

yes

[proven kelp]

Perchance

[ancient current]

what for though

[fresh anvil]

no specific reason
her range is five tiles

[left tulip]

~~I had the same itch ngl ~~

[alpine lance]

Does PramS3 Lure have enemy count limit? If it's aoe, I'm also curious if the 126 limit applies to that aswell, surely someone tested her in RA.

[copper schooner]

It say lure all so I assume not

[slate sigil]

s2m3 or s3m3 zuo?

[alpine lance]

If you want a non-afk laneholder go for S2.

S3 has 2 main use cases, first you can lower his hp and then put a defender in front of him, due to low hp, he'll have high sp gain and keep spamming that skill for a bunch of stuns and damage. Alternative, you put him S3 against hard but slow hitting enemies and you basically got a tanky boss killer who slowly chips away at their health with skill spam and stun.

[pallid basin]

Who should i invest?

[copper schooner]

hoederer s2 can perma stall theresis in ed2?

[quick jolt]

s2 is for stalling the sarkaz devourers, theresis is stun immune

[copper schooner]

oh

[quick jolt]

if you wanna stall theresis use ethan or tragodia s3

[slate sigil]

i like s3 more including my operators and this skill cheaper than s2

[copper schooner]

hoederer is basically mainly used with s1 in is right?

[alpine lance]

virtuosa and Suzuran, but might wanna show main team first.

[molten dome]

can anyone tell me what melee classes work well as muelsyse clones?

[pallid basin]

Mainly use exu alt, tragodia and mlynar

[quick jolt]

juggernauts

[molten dome]

i see

[quick jolt]

its best to just use ranged classes like trapmasters or loopshooters though

[molten dome]

maybe time to build mudrock for the sake of my mumu

[molten dome]

i normally always use ranged clones but i wanna try the melee ones too

[alpine lance]

mumu has decent damage while the summon is blocking and it also steals attack. If you want pure damage take crusher, but most of the time you want something tanky so juggernauts are great

[molten dome]

i see

[alpine lance]

who's your healer? Also, suzu for the trag combo I'd say.

[molten dome]

ig ill leave use a ulp clone while i build mudrock or smth

[alpine lance]

oh, I'd E2 the defenders first actually. You can replace spot with suzuran. Kinda too late for sankta. But again, suzu is only good with trag S3, and most people use S2, so it's still iffy.

[proven kelp]

What will Suzu do for Trag?

[alpine lance]

nothing if they're using S2, she does sp batter him like crazy with ptilo in the team, but it's overkill.

actually, just switch spot with virtuosa. That's just more practical in the long rn. Or Hibiscus actually, you got 3 healers

[proven kelp]

So you're wasting a slot just to fuel for Trag s3, and does nothing else for him?

And does Suzu and Ptilopsis even stack, iirc it doesn't

[alpine lance]

I feel like they do, but lemme test brb

[fresh anvil]

uh why are we using virtousa and trag in the same team arent they different elemental damages

[alpine lance]

(just put em in different lanes, hehe)

[copper schooner]

I forgot rosmontis is mod make her benefit from caster reliccs

[rigid hill]

Any recommendations?

[twilit crest]

when wang banner comes out which sui siblings will be 200 sparks?

[quick jolt]

dusk and nian

[twilit crest]

ok ty

[serene marlin]

i heard pramerita is pretty good in annihilation. was wondering if anybody has clips of her in that content for me to reference

[fresh anvil]

or you can go gamble on top operator

[rigid hill]

So either Ch'en or pray for Skadi

[proven kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ai6krOm_KIo

[quick jolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O26d39ISzOY&list=PLM2xFa71cSFbRWYWGyl4I-X_tBnLD_qYo entire playlist of someone doing low op / low rarity annihilation w/ pram as the main carry

[rigid hill]

Ch'en, Skadi and Thorns are the only 3 interesting ig

[fresh anvil]

i mean archetto for is…

[rigid hill]

Skadi because Abyssal Hunters team

I only miss her. I even got skalter

[fresh anvil]

skalter not with them

[rigid hill]

Ch'en I heard she's good

[rigid hill]

Yeah she can buff them but they can't buff her

[alpine lance]

Used robot redeployment as the timers, and I'll be damned they don't stack

[sterile ledge]

should I build blazealt or narantuya?

[quick jolt]

narantuya is very good, blazealt is a bottom tier 6star

[civic stream]

sure

wanna vc?

it's #help here

i think we can't

[copper schooner]

why does uplian have a high draft rate in global is5 and is6

[alpine lance]

initial SP relics. Get 25 inital SP, and you can spam his S3 over and over.

[copper schooner]

but doesn't he lose to hoederer as a draft pick or am I wrong?

[turbid ocean]

do not refer to the draft rate stats if you want good idea of whats strong

[copper schooner]

oh

[turbid ocean]

majority of the data is from general player base playing at base difficulty a few trimes

[alpine lance]

In IS5 hoederer is better for endings, and he also scales well with spinach, but it's not like Ulpi is bad, you just adopt to what you have

[tiny yarrow]

How do I unlock Pepe strategy in stronghold?

[fresh anvil]

it tells you how to unlock it… im pretty sure of that

[tiny yarrow]

how can I check dat

[fresh anvil]

check sweep report and click on strategies

[civic stream]

what ending is scroll of scars in IS6?

[fresh anvil]

2

[tiny yarrow]

Just found it lol

[fresh anvil]

the one with suis foot

[copper schooner]

you need the butterfly relic from bosky to unlock it

[neat acorn]

Feet

[fresh anvil]

its only one foot just stomping though…

[neat acorn]

[fresh anvil]

now if there was two legs i think itd be really difficult.. maybe next cc will have the sui enemies altogether

[gleaming mason]

How many try did LeiziAlt took you,

[neat acorn]

18

[gleaming mason]

We are at 35 try and yet 1 6*

[neat acorn]

Maybe 50

[gleaming mason]

I can feel my sanity and joy to live leaving me

[neat acorn]

You can just use your old account if you don’t wanna keep going

[gleaming mason]

Ngl if I have to do 50 reroll for LeiziAlt, I’m not sure I’ll be still playing

[grim tree]

How does Logos' S3 compare to Pram2's S3? Is he powercrept in that aspect too?

[gleaming mason]

I deleted it cuz y’all said LeiziAlt better D:

[fresh anvil]

huh?

[neat acorn]

That’s not how rerolling works

[gleaming mason]

I totaly forgot to link my account to be true

[fresh anvil]

did you even have anything good on old acc?

[gleaming mason]

I only had two 6* SilverAsh and Ifrit

[fresh anvil]

thats not bad you know

[neat acorn]

[grim tree]

How come you did 50 rerolls without any Leizi? I can get more than 10 accs w/ her with that amount of reroll

[gleaming mason]

This account isn’t allowed to breath anymore sadly

[fresh anvil]

ok bro

[neat acorn]

How many pulls are you Doing on a acc

[gleaming mason]

7 one we get and push to ten if none pop

[silent pendant]

it will all be worth it for leizi

[neat acorn]

Why are you pushing to ten

[gleaming mason]

Only 6 star I did get was Qiubei I guess

[fresh anvil]

[neat acorn]

If you’re gonna push to ten the. Don’t use the 7 pulls

[fresh anvil]

just do 10x rolls atp

[neat acorn]

Ye

Genuinely not worth the sanity doing 1 pulls

[gleaming mason]

Because I have a way for réflexion totally fucked up "If delete it now pretty sure Leizi is gonna pop next pull"

[keen scarab]

Logos s3 still stronger for burst dmg
But Pram s3 have lure to add
And logos s3 have the slow projectile

[gleaming mason]

Spoiler alert she never did

[neon inlet]

so I already leveled up beanstalk, myrtle. ethan maxed, click, gummy, quora, sussurro, gravel and purestream for IS, anything more I should build?

[rapid mason]

Dont you get around 17-18 pulls after the tutorial?

[gleaming mason]

7

[neat acorn]

Nah

You get less then 10

[gleaming mason]

That’s so dead brain tho

[grim tree]

I can give this acc if you want, though I suggest you play until 3-5 first because this account is already on that chapter

[rapid mason]

oh it probably means people count 10 free on limited banner when it is up then

7 is so bad on non selebations

[neat acorn]

Exu2 wth

Also you aren’t even guaranteed leizi2

[gleaming mason]

That’s pretty awesome of you but I prefer building mine :d

[grim tree]

It's just a reroll I did for fun. My main acc is more loaded. If he wants Leizi then I can't do anything about it

[neat acorn]

Honestly that account isn’t even that well built yet

[grim tree]

Ok then, I hope you get lucky with your rerolls

[fresh anvil]

he has lemuen exu2 pram2…

[gleaming mason]

Thank you so much! Thank you still for the offer!

[neon inlet]

do you need to e2 sussurro or purestream?

[rapid mason]

This is lowkey a really good starter account. i dont even have Lemuen and Exu2

[grim tree]

It's not that good tbh, I failed to get SAlter sadly

[gleaming mason]

I mean you kinda got lucky tho!

[scenic wharf]

salter wont break ur experience at all outside of CC

[grim tree]

My main got all of those + a bunch more

[gleaming mason]

Gratz!

[neat acorn]

Ye insane start

[scenic wharf]

alsos discreetly go to dms or something idk, sharing is against their TOS so you will get banned here if you keep talking about that

[gleaming mason]

Pramanix and Reed are looking good damn!

[grim tree]

Oh really, thanks for the reminder ig

[gleaming mason]

I’m going to do some more, see you later!

[boreal sentinel]

I forgot about laptop event rerun, I get off work only 5 hours before event ends, is that enough time to buy out furniture, pulls, and CS pots?

[lavish ledge]

can fog machine slow phantom boss

[fresh anvil]

yes but do you have the sanity pots?

[rapid mason]

I think you would have to beat almost every level, ex and other too. Maybe you will have to sacrifice some ori for that

[fresh anvil]

also could have done it like a few days ago while it was happening…

[grim tree]

Username checks out tbh

[scenic wharf]

[modern gust]

does he need to lose 70% hp or be below 70% hp?

[violet ledge]

for some reasons my base doesn't collect gold and exp, any ideas why?

[fresh anvil]

bad wording.. he needs to be 30% max hp for max effect

[proven kelp]

Its not bad wording tho?

Lose 70% HP means you are at 30% HP

[neat acorn]

Is it bad wording

[warped obsidian]

meow?
oh rose isnt here lame

[shadow bay]

oh yeh are there ideal targets for is6 ed4 scout node?

[candid badger]

your base operator tired ? dont have any gold ?

[neat acorn]

No gold bars

[violet ledge]

it does when I collect

[candid badger]

you need manually collected the lmd/exp

[boreal sentinel]

Have some to spare from weekly missions

[wraith sentinel]

Are your Trading Posts on Business Strategy and not Mining Strategy?

[violet ledge]

TP doesn't have any problems. Auto collect does collect lmd, but not factories

[frail aurora]

I need incandescent alloy and it says clear S3-6 ignition-1 to unlock the crafting recipe so tf is that and where do i find it

[odd sky]

chapter 3

[neat acorn]

I have never seen ignition what

[candid badger]

s3-6 are branch node from main story in chapter 3

[neat acorn]

Low on sanity I see

[wraith sentinel]

Need to clear the preceding nodes.

[frail aurora]

Ohhhh i see i see ty gamers

[serene marlin]

so far ive leveled up my main cast a bit, and i got mlynar, sash, pram, sash2, and trag to skill level 7. should i level up laplumas skill to 7 as well? i used a ticket to e2 her so i havent really invested into her, but since shes already here, i feel like i should eventually get her mod and max her skill

[wraith sentinel]

How is that relevant.

I just spent it.

[candid badger]

ignition-1 probably the node name i think

[wraith sentinel]

Are the Factories set to produce 99 of the corresponding resource? Not exactly certain what the specific issue is.

[opaque remnant]

I’d implore you to raise baseslaves

[serene marlin]

what does it mean to raise them? most of my ops already have usable skills in the base

[wraith sentinel]

Some Operators only unlock/improve base Skills at E1 (or E2).

[serene marlin]

im guessing its reccomended to get my factory > trading posts thriving?

[candid badger]

this one for automatic refill, except the shard need do manually

[fresh anvil]

okay this might sound stupid coming from me but why not just say “reaches maximum bonus when at 30% max hp” instead

[candid badger]

yostar is music company , they have funny translation team

[fluid scroll]

does rosmontis is module make her recieve all caster subclass items or just caster stuff?

[wraith sentinel]

(All operators with Tenacity have the same wording.)

[wraith sentinel]

(The original CN uses the same phrasing.)

[neat acorn]

Same thing

[fresh anvil]

same answer different way of calculating it methinks

[wraith shoal]

she's a sniper

[fluid scroll]

the IS module im wondering

[pine plover]

subclass doesnt included

[fluid scroll]

oh okay thank you very much

[cursive maple]

skybox is a good operator, yes?

[glass mango]

No

[proven kelp]

For a 5*, yes
He's strong for his rarity, basically a flying Tequila

[frail aurora]

I got E2 Lemu now ty helpers btw who is a character that's good at training snipers?

[proven kelp]

Irene

[frail aurora]

Any other options that aren't 6 stars and could be obtained from recruitment

[pine plover]

do you have logos?

similar trainer skill

[copper schooner]

Logos work on sniper?

[slim tusk]

logos can halve any class training time

[copper schooner]

Damn

[pine plover]

same with irene

the sniper+guard and caster+supporter are just additional bonus

[frail aurora]

Nop I'm a newbie =w=

[slim tusk]

anyhow if you don't have logos/irene just scourge #r-i-i-c pin for trainer skill

[pine plover]

dobermann

[slim tusk]

or just wait faster

[frail aurora]

I do have Dobermann

[pine plover]

she will train you with whip

[frail aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/say-whaaat-gif-18261283115155956121

[vital kelp]

u can just also

wait faster

[wraith sentinel]

Kroos the Keen Glint has a +30% bonus for Snipers.

[frail aurora]

Noted ty

[wraith sentinel]

(Plus an additional +45% for Marksmen, though here not relevant.)

[opaque remnant]

Needs e2 though I think

[wraith sentinel]

Oh, oops, it does.

I never realized.

Scratch that then.

[obtuse obsidian]

Is horn The only op who can self kill (dont count forced retreat)

[wraith sentinel]

Hoshiguma the Breacher I guess is a forced retreat? Hmm.

[proven kelp]

Don't Aak just kills himself

[wraith sentinel]

Skadi the Corrupting Heart can kill herself on S3.

[obtuse obsidian]

Did not they made geek immune to self kill now?

[slim tusk]

geek buffed

[pine plover]

no more with the new update during the masses travel

[proven kelp]

Damn, too bad
He should have done it

[obtuse obsidian]

Blame exu

[opaque remnant]

The HP drain right

[pine plover]

some dollkeepers have self kill on their skills

[opaque remnant]

Specter

[obtuse obsidian]

Ya he can still murder others if thats what you need

[wraith shoal]

yeah it now stops at like 1 health

[pine plover]

bena and kazemaru

[copper schooner]

Btw what was spalter is mod

[wraith sentinel]

(Blaze the Igniting Spark can get herself to 1 HP I guess, but then her Talent 2 takes effect...)

[pine plover]

dies instead of ally in 8 surroundig tiles

[opaque remnant]

Constant death bait

[copper schooner]

Oh

[opaque remnant]

Yeah the IS mod is pretty worthless

[pine plover]

also buff her substitute damage dealt and reduce damage taken

i dont remember if it also buffs her MSPD reduction

[obtuse obsidian]

Damage taken and dealt +40% by self and doll
Doll aoe also do an extra hit of 160%
Protect an ally and die instead of them in normal form

No slow or sp increase

[copper schooner]

Isn't hoederer better as tank or something?

[fresh anvil]

ehh i think its fine its not broken

niche

[obtuse obsidian]

Lowkey you might run x if you get temp spalter

[wraith shoal]

he will explode with no healer

[pine plover]

S1 with gorillion aspd

[obtuse obsidian]

It will have 1 moment in is 17 that people will glaze forever

[copper schooner]

Doesn't he have good self sustain with relics

[tepid abyss]

ulpi more like a tank

[wraith sentinel]

Verdant too, kinda, if he has an enemy to hit.

[wraith shoal]

is hoe s1 most used skill even outside IS?

[obtuse obsidian]

The best tank in is is bubble cause 0 hope

[tepid abyss]

hoder skills have long cooldowns.

[copper schooner]

?

[proven kelp]

Lol no, he's back to s3 merchant outside of IS cuz without any ASPD buffs, you're not really getting any value out of s1 with how slow Crushers Atk Interval is

[copper schooner]

Which skill are we talking about because i thought no one use his s3 in is

[obtuse obsidian]

They attack once a day its not that bad

[wraith shoal]

yeah guessed so

[obtuse obsidian]

Anyway hoederer IS is kinda limited to is5 cause thats The only IS with easy max aspd

If you want a tank in another IS you just use 0 hope options

Or hoshi 2 who kinda tank dps

[opaque remnant]

Or pull out a hoshiguma the breacher and kill everything first

[obtuse obsidian]

She is tanky too with her second phase

Bosses when operators have second phase

[copper schooner]

why is google play game arknights having performance issues

[tepid abyss]

The main issue is that even at the highest level, Hoder's cooldown is still a whopping 50 seconds.

[obtuse obsidian]

You use s1 in is wuwei

[cursive maple]

u use his s1

[copper schooner]

nobody talking about his s3

[obtuse obsidian]

It have a cd of half a second in is5

[tepid abyss]

ok

[native cargo]

should i e2 my pram now or continue leveling up my units

[buoyant sigil]

How does vigil compare specifically to the other tacticians (beanstalk, mumu, mitm, etc)

[fresh anvil]

technically a slow increase because the operator applies spalter’s first talent to enemies for 8 seconds

[copper schooner]

im stuck

i cant click anything

[opaque remnant]

?

[candid badger]

restart app/emulator

[copper schooner]

im not even joking i cant open my base without crashing

[candid badger]

use mumu emulator, gpg have performance issue with low spec pc

[south fog]

Guys nasti share pity with orienteering baner?

[tepid abyss]

His summoned creatures can withstand three attacks.

[obtuse obsidian]

Its still shit 40% just longer duration

And thats assuming you proc The death chain

[cursive maple]

yes

[copper schooner]

emulator scare me after ldplayer stole people account information

[cursive maple]

standard banners share pity

[silent pendant]

orienteering isnt standard

[tepid abyss]

is so scary

[cursive maple]

it is

[silent pendant]

if it isnt then i was straihgt up lied to LOL

[candid badger]

use unused gmail

[opaque remnant]

Don’t all standards share pity, pretty sure only limiteds and collabs don’t

[silent pendant]

ok im wrong then i'm going to slime out whoever misinformed me

[coarse notch]

orienteering is standard, so is JO

[south fog]

If share pity i think i trying some pulls

[strange cedar]

how often do we get 6* paid selectors? i cracked one a week ago and it had like logos and stuff, do those come around normally or is it just for anni event (sash alter event?)

[opaque remnant]

Remember what you’re fighting for (entire map nuke)

[coarse notch]

cn anniv events so twice a year

[silent pendant]

once every 6 months ish

[opaque remnant]

Just anni, we’ll get another for kalter

[tepid abyss]

I'm curious how much that costs where you are.

[strange cedar]

we are ~5 months away from that right

[buoyant sigil]

So like… bad?

[gilded cloak]

So my semi-commital tragodia pulls mean early Nasti pity? That actually feels nice

[strange cedar]

it was like 30 bucks usd? so if i recall conversion to rmb its like 180?

[tepid abyss]

Based on this price, it should be $33.

[copper schooner]

okay turned out discord game overlay cause arknights to not run properly

[strange cedar]

also heard abt smth smth vpn smth smth lower prices but idk how strict hypergryph is on that and i probably wont try it

[opaque remnant]

Needs 50+ pulls for soft pity

[obtuse obsidian]

And if you pulled a 6 star it reset

[tepid abyss]

yes

[gilded cloak]

I think I stopped at 30

So 6☆ likely by 20-30 pulls

[cursive maple]

yeah

[buoyant sigil]

Resets when you get a 6*, off rate or featured
if you have, unfortunately it’s back to 0

[gilded cloak]

I've only gotten 6☆ from the anni banner since then, so that wouldn't count?

[obtuse obsidian]

Ya your pity is 30 atm

[tepid abyss]

it's a little expensive

[obtuse obsidian]

Good luck

Or bad luck whatever secure nasti

[buoyant sigil]

Neat

[obtuse obsidian]

Is this vigil?

[buoyant sigil]

Yes
Compared to other tacticians

[tepid abyss]

Equals 6 points and 3 months card

[obtuse obsidian]

S1 have decent survivablity

His s3 is bait skill

[buoyant sigil]

I feel as though he’s just unfortunately… just kind of bad

[obtuse obsidian]

He is passable

Not siege bad imo

[tepid abyss]

The six-star freebies that came out later were mostly terrible.

[buoyant sigil]

Well, yes, of course, but he’s sorta the worst of his subclass

[obtuse obsidian]

Tbf mumu is limited after him and closure is modern vg post, strategist

[iron garnet]

why is the current event so bad

[buoyant sigil]

If you want bodies mitm is arguably quite good as well

[opaque remnant]

I haven’t seen a DPS comparison between the vigil and closure, where is my deserved comparison

[pallid basin]

Do i e2 tequila for base stuff?

[obtuse obsidian]

They had to give closure enough power to not get completely shafted by sa2 and ines

[copper schooner]

I thought closure was a meme unit

[buoyant sigil]

And as a 5* mitm is overall just cheaper lmao

[cursive maple]

plus combat stuff

[opaque remnant]

She isn’t that bad to be that level

[obtuse obsidian]

So far from what i see she is good but not broken

The exu s3 80 dp gimmick is for sure a meme that i would not focus at

[buoyant sigil]

So vigil has no place
Hell beanstalk finds usage in some content like… maybe IS(? A bit, at minimum far more than him)

[lyric lagoon]

closure is casual level unit, just omega dp gen

[opaque remnant]

He never had one

[copper schooner]

because all i remembered was sciel and supah milking the shit out of it for contents

[buoyant sigil]

True

[opaque remnant]

So do we think S2 or S3 is better

[copper schooner]

dont know how much of it was actually for content

[fresh anvil]

yeah, i agree with this point.
it is much better to pick something like mizuki/wang/exu2 over spalter in IS.

and also hoshi2 exists.

[lyric lagoon]

s2 for dp gen, s3 if you want something out of her aside from just dp

[opaque remnant]

The specialist class is already ridiculously packed in the first place

[obtuse obsidian]

Theres like 5 other ops i would pick first too tbh

Unless The death gimmick show a use dont think spalter module will see The sun

[opaque remnant]

There’s so much good stuff there

[obtuse obsidian]

Other then exu miz wang i mean

[tepid abyss]

the dps cloure Far more than vigiy

[lyric lagoon]

not a high bar

[obtuse obsidian]

Counter point vigil dps is higher then closure right now in global server 👏

[opaque remnant]

I swear I think the showcases always forget the 150% damage bonus on blocked enemies, they pair her with warfarin and don’t allow me to see her raw performance

[opaque remnant]

How big is the gap I wonder

[buoyant sigil]

It is the comparison at hand shrug
Is her damage actually good or just something really extra

[tepid abyss]

closureCan attack five enemies simultaneously

[obtuse obsidian]

I wonder that too we still dont have a dps in vg ticket

[iron garnet]

whats the point of the carnival fireworks if they just do damage to you?

[lyric lagoon]

vulpis:
we have dps, just not good ones

[fresh anvil]

your operators dont die till the fireworks are over

[tepid abyss]

Unless the monster has high armor, her damage will be outrageous.

[iron garnet]

i mean like the aoe thing

[obtuse obsidian]

You can set up The range of them and play around said range

Also it disable enemy invis/damage redection and lure them to it

[lethal halo]

who is this in the blanked out part?

[proven kelp]

I mean, if you're operators die in the first place, then your strats is kinda fucked anyway lol
Kinda whatever buff if you're only alive for the duration of the fireworks

[buoyant sigil]

So she gets walled by high defense but does good damage to other mobs and can attack 5 people at once? Interesting

[obtuse obsidian]

Real one i mean

[opaque remnant]

What would having a DPS in vanguard class change for IS

[fresh anvil]

also, invisible enemies are revealed, the big trucks will have their damage reduction removed

they will be lured to the fireworks and attempt to destroy it

[iron garnet]

which firework is best one then

[lyric lagoon]

she is a real dps, just once again, not a good one

[obtuse obsidian]

Ayhd buff

[proven kelp]

The Dmg to you isn't really that big, the main thing is they either buff you or debuff the enemy

[opaque remnant]

What?

[tepid abyss]

Vanguard units aren't meant to deal with heavily armored monsters.

[obtuse obsidian]

As your heart desire buff

[copper schooner]

tbf they could alway just release a crusher disguise as a vanguard or something

[buoyant sigil]

Fair, honestly it’s good that she can target a lot of enemies though, as that probably makes her not be locked out from helping if the more fragile mobs are behind high defense

[tepid abyss]

she has dps but it depends on other ones

[fresh anvil]

a man can dream with a saga IS module where all enemies are critically wounded and you dont even have to deploy her down for the effect

[tepid abyss]

sure

[copper schooner]

mumu is like kinda forgettable as a vanguard

[tepid abyss]

Furthermore, she gains access to the attack range of other operators, like Toyokawa Shoko.

[broken flame]

Surely when they release another charger 6*

[opaque remnant]

She shares the same trait as every other tactician, shit DP generation

[copper schooner]

Bagpipes alter

[opaque remnant]

Pretty sure the only one that isn’t ass at DP gen is closure right

[tepid abyss]

She is the most offensively capable vanguard.

[broken flame]

Mercenary 6*

[fresh anvil]

lmao

[pine plover]

Dragoon, ala FF4, with jump

[buoyant sigil]

Saga IS module where enemies are critically wounded at, like, 40% hp, and allies gain free sp hitting them after that
Dream

[opaque remnant]

Yeah, but your forget she’s a vanguard class at times

[obtuse obsidian]

Record keeper

[lyric lagoon]

mumu feels more like a specialist who filled out the wrong class form

[fresh anvil]

more coping and waiting..

[lethal halo]

thx

[broken flame]

I just finished S2M3 Leizi2 hmm do I go S3 or S1. I feel like I use S1 a lot. Man maybe I really just M9

[buoyant sigil]

Mercenary hoederer alter one day…

[obtuse obsidian]

Dont cope they can release another spalter

[opaque remnant]

S1, S3 is good but it’s map dependent

[fresh anvil]

no way im not believing that

[lyric lagoon]

nah, merchant hoederer and ines

[opaque remnant]

Though if you pull it off it’s basically perma frighten and enemy can’t do shit

[broken flame]

S1 it is

[tepid abyss]

S2 cos tank S3 cos dps

[buoyant sigil]

As an honest merchantknights fan, I fully support that idea. Thank you.

[fresh anvil]

merchant ines, mercenary hoederer

[broken flame]

She better be a good merchant I like using Merchants

[opaque remnant]

Do we even have any good merchants?

[buoyant sigil]

uhh..

[lyric lagoon]

swire copage for IS

[broken flame]

They're more on the fun category as opposed to good

[tepid abyss]

Isn't she a shrewd businesswoman?

[opaque remnant]

How many merchants do we even have and somehow not a single one is above average

[buoyant sigil]

Lee swire2 figurino jaye mr nothing
5 and I’m sure you know why considering who they are

[broken flame]

I forgot about Figurino holy

[fresh anvil]

jaye is pretty good for a four star… (copium)

[obtuse obsidian]

Jaye did a lot actually

[buoyant sigil]

mr. -25 dp

[opaque remnant]

Figuring is a merchant?

[obtuse obsidian]

He fell off once is get diffeculties tho

[fresh anvil]

hes merchant five star released on lapp2 banner

[broken flame]

I like using Swire2 because of the pixel skin

[buoyant sigil]

Yes, and I’m fairly sure the -25dp is separate from his natural dp consumption so it stacks

[copper schooner]

They'll release Ji trust broken merchant

[opaque remnant]

Know when he released, I only remembered the fact he consumes so much DP on skill

[broken flame]

Mio Soloblade

[wraith sentinel]

(I fully support M9ing her.)

[opaque remnant]

Leizi2 is a strong M9 candidate

[fresh anvil]

what other m9 candidates are there

[broken flame]

From M9 Entel to M6 Mod3 Zuo to M9 Leizi2.... oh my mats.....

[buoyant sigil]

Jie Geek, but reverse aak where she attacks herself to heal others ashes to ashes ages on ages

[obtuse obsidian]

Raidian machinst

[opaque remnant]

Others tend to be IS copium and such…

[tepid abyss]

To make a long story short, I think Closure is an excellent vanguard. I've already mastered S2 and S3 to level 10, and also have mod 3.

[radiant wyvern]

should i get tragodia s1 for friend support

[opaque remnant]

Wang PTSD

[obtuse obsidian]

Just tell them to add useless6900

[fresh anvil]

trag s1 over s2?

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah but what if she continually applies sanctuary when she loses hp wait this gold

[wraith sentinel]

Lemuen.
(S1 is fun with Dejected, but probably not worth the investment.)

[opaque remnant]

Just for the cool looking red triangle?

[buoyant sigil]

It’s honestly on the better side of skills despite S2 and S3 being clearly better

[radiant wyvern]

yes but also for afk maayybe

[tepid abyss]

i agree

[opaque remnant]

Feed her atk speed and make her sniper full auto

[obtuse obsidian]

Bro cure your button allergy by pulling wang

[tepid abyss]

S2 afk is enough

[wraith sentinel]

Hey, S1 with Dejected is the opposite of afk.

[obtuse obsidian]

S3 work with dejected anyway

[radiant wyvern]

[broken flame]

I cured my button allergy by playing Zuo. He also made me alternate between x1 and x2 speed 🥀

[obtuse obsidian]

Module give sp so dejected is always a + for her

[opaque remnant]

Am I doing something wrong if I ever need to use 1x speed

[fresh anvil]

zuo le skill 3 in left ear, zuo le voice lines in right ear

[obtuse obsidian]

I only use x1 in coopto stop The lag or hard is fights to not fuck up

[wraith sentinel]

Mm, true, but it isn't as fun.

Machinegun Lemuen my beloved.

[obtuse obsidian]

Orbit nuking spam VS slightly bigger attack idk man

[opaque remnant]

Technically people have different definitions of fun

[fresh anvil]

guys is it possible to get 120 gold certs by next month?

[obtuse obsidian]

Ya theres right one (mine) and wrong one (not mine)

[opaque remnant]

Some (for whatever reason) may find it fun to completely turn their brain off and afk

[buoyant sigil]

Would it be a fair idea to reroll an alt for nasti and raise her there so that I can just borrow her instead of wasting main acc resources for a niche operator

[fresh anvil]

i have 138 gold certs

[broken flame]

Just friend a Nasti haver

[obtuse obsidian]

I mean you can just borrow randoms no?

Even non friends are not mastery locked now

[tepid abyss]

yes

[fresh anvil]

friend a guy who actually has a m9 nasti, so real

[obtuse obsidian]

Unless you want specific garbo mastery or something

[opaque remnant]

What the fuck does nasti S1 even do

[wraith sentinel]

It's fun because you can immediately cancel after the first shot to reload it instantly again for extremely fast shots.

[obtuse obsidian]

Idk i only know nasti s3

[broken flame]

Nasti has other skills?

[opaque remnant]

Her S2 is glorified stainless SP feed

[tepid abyss]

Most S1s are just filler.

[obtuse obsidian]

Leizi qb trag is a rarity

[buoyant sigil]

I find it more reliable to raise my own, I mean, she obviously won’t be too common and people are likely to switch her out for… non-nasti operators 🤧

[fresh anvil]

virtuosa maybe

[wraith sentinel]

(Ignore the Mountain.)
https://youtu.be/R2nUx6dD2Cw

[opaque remnant]

I think more than half of the people don’t even remember qb exists

[obtuse obsidian]

Virtousa have 3 filler skills

[tepid abyss]

Your NATSI activities have started now, right?

[fresh anvil]

No

[pale tapir]

qiubai is so incredibly mid she blends in with the rest of the cast
most generic dps ever

[wraith sentinel]

In four days.

[buoyant sigil]

Not yet. Still ~3-4 days.

[obtuse obsidian]

But s1 IS perma bind

[opaque remnant]

Thank fuck, I can grind my red tickets in peace for the blocks and catalysts…

[broken flame]

looks at my lvl 1 qb 🥀

[obtuse obsidian]

Go raise her for archetto qb bind combo

[tepid abyss]

i can tell you hoiS1 is great for the boss level7 is enough

[fresh anvil]

4 days, 13 hours for the nasti event

[broken flame]

Archetto ISW?

[obtuse obsidian]

Of course

[wraith sentinel]

I want to see if I can use Yu S1 then.

[broken flame]

Ok, i'm gonna drain my resources even more

[buoyant sigil]

I only remember her from memorizing the yan side stories. As she was released in a mini-event, she’s easily memorable from A Death in Chunfen

[ancient lintel]

Who's qiubai?

[opaque remnant]

Point proven

[fresh anvil]

Middle child

[tepid abyss]

yes

[buoyant sigil]

She actually appeared before her release as an NPC in Chongyue’s event, Where Vernal Winds Will Never Blow, I’m fairly sure.

[tepid abyss]

祥子算是她的上位

[broken flame]

Is there a point in raising Lin when I have Pram2

[pale tapir]

idk rat's ass

[ancient lintel]

So thorn's the yougest one and sash's the big bro, got it

[broken flame]

Glorified ranged bait maybe 🥀

[tepid abyss]

Toyokawa Shoko was her superior.

[fresh anvil]

and then sakikos the youngest daughter or something

[broken flame]

Inb4 Thorn2 Delta Corrosion mod

[opaque remnant]

Offskill so she keeps tanking, that’s about it

[tepid abyss]

i don't think you need to use lin when you take pram

[fresh anvil]

good against shu flies (copium)

[ancient lintel]

If u appreciate her bakery

Cause her e2 art is definitely somethin

[opaque remnant]

Pram2 is just uhh, better in almost every way

[buoyant sigil]

Not really. You could try to justify it talking about her shield, except that Pram2’s revive already does that… a little better. It’s not like either of them are dying outside of specific harder content, anyway.

[fresh anvil]

can pram2 handle shu flies offskill?

[opaque remnant]

The only thing Lin has is being the phalanx in the phalanx caster while pram2 is just caster

[broken flame]

Sadge, I really like Lin summer skin but realistically I won't use her

[opaque remnant]

Logos S1 so his domain insta kills them

[buoyant sigil]

If you want a ranged woman sitting in a chair just buy pozy skin

[tepid abyss]

me too but I still buy it

[fresh anvil]

and then theres carnelian

[lyric jewel]

who do i use this on

[opaque remnant]

If one afk skill doesn’t work, simply use the other

[ancient lintel]

Surfer/canta, that's kinda it

[neat acorn]

Who do you have

[tepid abyss]

wang

[pale tapir]

5* m3 ticket?
yea that's rough
the good agent vanguards are aight
maybe mutsumi

[ancient lintel]

Why pozy when lemuen smh

[neat acorn]

[opaque remnant]

Pretend she doesn’t exist

[ancient lintel]

U get upgraded from a normal chair to a wheel chair

[broken flame]

I really thought they can't make a Phalanx caster afk but here we are

[buoyant sigil]

That’s a “wheelchair”, not a “chair”. Have more respect. One wrestled fedexie

[opaque remnant]

Boring chair or chair but speeen

[broken flame]

Next thing we know they'll make a Blast Caster that targets all lanes in the direction they're facing

[opaque remnant]

The solution is always just infinite duration skills

[buoyant sigil]

Haven’t read preluding lights to today. Have you? I’m fairly sure no one really is interested nowadays

[opaque remnant]

Is that of ifrits class?

[broken flame]

This is truly our afkslop

[buoyant sigil]

… Aroma’s too.

[fresh anvil]

Merchant that ignores dp cost and does better dp generation than most vanguards

[opaque remnant]

I don’t even remember she exists

[inland osprey]

ifrit need her alter asap

[buoyant sigil]

They get a pretty skin in CN so better get building

[ancient lintel]

That would be so stupid lol

[buoyant sigil]

Nymph!!! W

[fresh anvil]

yeah but exu2 and ulpianus exist i would not be surprised if it happens

[bronze depot]

how did people get the slug emotes in stronghold protocol? was it a pack?

[broken flame]

Merchant that damages enemies in the field everytime DP is consumed

[fresh anvil]

the first icebreaker

[ancient lintel]

IBG #1 ye

[fresh anvil]

you will cope via april fools emotes

[pale tapir]

part of the reward track right

[ancient lintel]

also W vitality

[broken flame]

Poor Kjera unbuilt 🥀

[bronze depot]

truly peak fomo feature

[fresh anvil]

Who invited kjera

[neat acorn]

Me

[buoyant sigil]

You should have been asking about delphine the mystic caster instead

[opaque remnant]

Don’t put it above HG to not break class archetypes

[broken flame]

Rosmontis Skybreaker class alter

[fresh anvil]

yeah but thats e2

[ancient lintel]

Ptil alt will save marksman trust

[buoyant sigil]

Kjera is e1/max so statwise that’s barely a difference and 5* don’t get an extra skill or anything so actually it matters very little

[opaque remnant]

That’s not even “I’m a medic but…” that’s flat out violence route

[buoyant sigil]

I’m actually asking myself why has delphine been leveled beyond e1 max rather than that lol

[fresh anvil]

you see it will be an afk skill after three+ uses, making dp cost -1 every time you use the skill and when it gets into the negatives you gain dp while they are on the board and no longer waste dp

[ancient lintel]

Ye she decided harmacist was not the right way, the right way is pure violence

[tepid abyss]

she is cute it's enough

[opaque remnant]

Agreed

[buoyant sigil]

fair, shrug

[broken flame]

Just like Gavial lmao

[fresh anvil]

be like gavial and chen2

[ancient lintel]

Dont think that would be possible, but then again dunno how hail mao will cook lol

[opaque remnant]

Gavial in the story was barely even a medic

[buoyant sigil]

ch’en2…? That’s a spreadshooter
She never gave up violence

[tepid abyss]

There are so many Sentinels.

[neat acorn]

Huh

[broken flame]

Prevention is better than cure. And by prevention, elimination

[opaque remnant]

Why solve a problem when you can immediately beat up the cause

[fresh anvil]

Gavial wanted to bonk the enemies with her staff

[buoyant sigil]

bbut wait siege3 will be an actual good 6* unlike the previous two believe me

[inland osprey]

tbh lonetrail got the potential for a saria alter , since she appear like the whole cp of the stories

[neat acorn]

This applies to irl rn

[broken flame]

Me the way I cope Thorns3

[opaque remnant]

I’m still coping…

[neat acorn]

Thorns4

[fresh anvil]

they make thorns a four star on the banner as compensation

[broken flame]

But we probably get Ely alter on the new Iberia event

[inland osprey]

instead we got a 🐍

[buoyant sigil]

Ho’olheyak takeoff caster that works like leizi2 lightning but for levitating enemy with whirlwind, and deal high damage to air enemy

[broken flame]

Ho'ol alter that uses Gladiia S3 but an actual cyclone

[buoyant sigil]

They even had the event for it (lonetrail) but nah takeoff wasn’t a thing back then

[wraith shoal]

kristen/saria2 limited banner on 7.5 anni trust

[inland osprey]

just sayin yknow, "potentially"

[fresh anvil]

and her tornadoes dont pass through targets nor catch up to a dog

[strange cedar]

for the stacks in the tft mode, does it only add stacks if the unit is on field? or does it just add if its in inventory? i know there are some conditional things that activate only when 3/6 ops are on field but what about stacks specifically?

[neat acorn]

Potential

[buoyant sigil]

We cope hope

[inland osprey]

most of the old ops already got their alter right?