help

[hidden nacelle]

why not death by one big cut

[opaque remnant]

The fuck is TFN?

[ivory terrace]

trial for navigator
aka boss rush

[wraith sentinel]

Gravel deals double-hits so it is quite effective.

[ivory terrace]

with mlynar s3 it becomes a triple hit
or 4 idk how it interacts with gravel specifically

[spark sage]

which stage should i farm in lappland alter event?

[wraith sentinel]

Also interestingly her double-hits aren't affected by Defense twice (unlike Swordmasters I believe) but rather half Defense to each hit.

[obtuse obsidian]

i used that back in chapter 6

you can use that now

[proven kelp]

Trials for Navigators
It's a event that's basically a boss rush

They give you a moving map that has multiple sections, each section has it's own boss. So you have to manage your redeploy since if you're not ready, you won't have any units available right away on the 2nd section

[opaque remnant]

PV-9

[ivory terrace]

yea, half damage per gravel hit

[opaque remnant]

Unfortunately already finished…

[obtuse obsidian]

unfinish it

[wraith sentinel]

Also, Gravel alter when?

[runic cipher]

when yh

[hidden nacelle]

next year

[obtuse obsidian]

at least the bitch is still playable unlike many 4 stars

[wraith sentinel]

True.

[hidden nacelle]

my uncle at hg said she will be new defender class

[obtuse obsidian]

frostleaf have only hypemoment in story and aura in art and die in combat

anyway lets move on

[ancient current]

remember blogging can get you slain

[hidden nacelle]

oh i had a question
for ch'en in stronghold as tactician
it applies even if "high ground" ops are placed on low ground, yes?

[obtuse obsidian]

yes ranged ops are always (high ground)

[hardy pasture]

Yea high ground ops refer to the classes that are on highground

Tbh idk about hookmasters and pushstr. but I think they are normally ground.

[ivory terrace]

does it say melee/ranged

[obtuse obsidian]

hookmaster/pushers trait says they can be deployed on ranged tiles without saying melee tiles

so their original position is melee

[ancient current]

shouldn’t work with pushers/pullers

not with dobermann or pallas either

[spark sage]

should i do RA as a new player?

[mild yacht]

It won’t hurt any less than if you did it as an old player.

[proven kelp]

Check Glow sticks guide for easy resources

[languid swallow]

anything but actually playing RA

[opaque remnant]

Can’t blame em

[languid swallow]

insufferable gameplay to many but it contains the most loaded store

[bright bobcat]

any good?

[obtuse obsidian]

is doc the least shit of those 5?

[ivory terrace]

guardknight healer

[languid swallow]

funny enough yes

[obtuse obsidian]

tbh he is the only one i never used so i have no knowledge of him

[proven kelp]

Swire is hot
Clearly the correct answer

[obtuse obsidian]

thats false tho they all kinda ugly

[languid swallow]

swire with a mildly large offensive SP cost

hit an enemy 45 times for mild atk buff and talent boost
m3 btw

[proven kelp]

Only Bryo and Doc are

[obtuse obsidian]

archetto can fix that problem in IS!

the sp part not the attack buff part

[proven kelp]

Pretty decent, above average I'd say

She's a good brick that has relativity good dmg for a defender

[pale tapir]

jessicat is useful but she's mid
good defense and some utility tho
low priority, only build if you really like her or need her specific utility

[ivory terrace]

sure if u have no miksa no hoshi2

[obtuse obsidian]

who do i cope with those 4

[haughty holly]

Her mod having invis reveal is kinda nice tho

[languid swallow]

none preferably
if you have underflow that would be a different story she's actually not half bad

[ancient current]

i WILL shill shalem

[languid swallow]

she does the arts thing better than all of them!!!

[ancient current]

why is xinbra so correct...

[languid swallow]

ok gramps go back to bed

[obtuse obsidian]

do i cope durnar 0 hope usage since my 3rd defender ticket is pure copium anyway?

[abstract mauve]

i'd go with shalem

[ancient current]

ok but module!!!!!

hah!!!!

see shileds agrees!!!

[abstract mauve]

shalem pretty nice tbh just niche

[languid swallow]

🚬

[obtuse obsidian]

ok am just doing 1 op of each archtype i never had one raised

i dont have hoshi so someone else is getting that

thats also why i asked about doc

[abstract mauve]

but for arts damage yeah i have better things

[mild yacht]

-# Bryon for base

[languid swallow]

just only several years for RoI

[mild yacht]

Faster return than Dooberman or Swire.

[neat acorn]

Why is ps-s-3 genuinely harder then the boss

[mild yacht]

It’s not, though?

[haughty holly]

Might be a roster diff

[modern gust]

will a challenge clear count for this?

[neat acorn]

The fuse for challange mode takes so long

[obtuse obsidian]

no

sorry but you spending that sanity

[neat acorn]

[mild yacht]

-# Challenge mode still uses sanity.

[haughty holly]

Eh
Is this to remove the dmg reduction from truck or something

[neat acorn]

Ye

[haughty holly]

Use true damage or elemental it bypasses them all

[neat acorn]

I just burst them out

Still was pretty close

[haughty holly]

Tragodia virt monst3r Kal all ur best friend

[obtuse obsidian]

we both know he asked that cause he wanted to do the first clear challenge mode and quest at once

[haughty holly]

Wasting 30 sanity is the end of the world u know

[pliant summit]

#help when you waste one orirock and it causes their whole family to be massacred:

[fresh anvil]

#help when you finish a challenge mode stage on two stars on accident

[mild yacht]

-# #help when you do a module objective and forget to bring the module op:

[fallow salmon]

should i change ascalon for texas? ive seen some ppl hate on texalter so i was wondering how good she is- 😭

[abstract mauve]

yes that's me. im the hater
everyone else hating on her are just my alts

[fallow salmon]

one of many i fear

[proven kelp]

You can also kick the twink
Get it's ugly ass out

[opaque remnant]

Ines and sash2 is redundant

[obtuse obsidian]

you can kick one of the vanguards actually

[opaque remnant]

Just use one of them

[fallow salmon]

oh really? i see i see, id use sash prob then, so change ines for ascalon? or is ines better than sash

[opaque remnant]

Sidegrades, change depending on what seems fit

[abstract mauve]

sash2 usually better but there's situations where ines is better

[twilit canopy]

Is Nightengale worth raising as a healer? I've raised Lumen already.

[formal shadow]

I'm sorry for your loss

[twilit canopy]

I never pulled purestream ;.;

[formal shadow]

And yeah but not high prio

[opaque remnant]

NG is niche

[formal shadow]

She's one of the top ops to counter heavy arts damage

[abstract mauve]

no silence or ptilo from starting vouchers?

[formal shadow]

Also purestream is easy support ticket grab on recruitment

[twilit canopy]

I picked others for the vouchers.

[opaque remnant]

Oh wait, NG not shining

[abstract mauve]

unlucky

[twilit canopy]

Althought I pulled Ptilopsis from recruitment now that you mention it. Should I raise her?

[hidden nacelle]

how does newpaper work in stronghold
like if i unequip i lose all stacks?

[abstract mauve]

ye she's quite solid

[opaque remnant]

Good as a general healer

Usually silence + ptilo is enough to carry for almost all stages

[neat acorn]

I wasted like 100 sanity forgetting to click on challange mode again

[abstract mauve]

huge

[hidden nacelle]

just check your life points if you start iwth not 1 then exit and get refund

[opaque remnant]

How the fuck does that happen

[neat acorn]

I genuinely don’t check my lifepoints

I restart when I hear a loud warning so I dont check my points most of the time

[hidden nacelle]

wtfraud

[neat acorn]

I just did it again

[wraith sentinel]

...

[hidden nacelle]

@wraith sentinel do you know how many dodges before a ban in stronghold

[wraith sentinel]

Uhh, not sure why you're asking me.

I haven't done much Stronghold Protocol at all.

[shy quiver]

Zuo Le's trait goes 50% -> 60% -> 70%. Is that not technically a downgrade (minus the better gained stats) as it means he has to lose more health for the trait to trigger?

[abstract mauve]

opposite
lose 70% to 60% to 50% when maxed

maxed he only needs to be 50% hp to have max effect

[undone portal]

other way, hp req reduces to 50%. tenacity boost numbers also increase so you have to lose less hp to reach the same stats

[shy quiver]

This is on the E2 upgrade screen

[abstract mauve]

no mod he needs to be 30% hp

[abstract mauve]

mod3

[undone portal]

but the aspd/sp numbers are higher. its basically increasing the upper limit on the tenacity boost

[obtuse obsidian]

after losing 70% hp means he need to be 30% hp

after losing 50% hp means he need to be 50% hp

[abstract mauve]

compare them side by side ye

[undone portal]

^ e2 + mod is a strict upgrade

[shy quiver]

I am not including mod

[abstract mauve]

[undone portal]

you should zuo le mod is important to have

[shy quiver]

Well I'm not, as I don't have i

[proven kelp]

It means you need less HP lost to reach maximum buff

Is this hard to understand

[shy quiver]

Yes because the way it's written says the opposite of that

[abstract mauve]

he's comparing e1 talent with the same talent at e2

[odd sky]

it's not a downgrade when the upper limitnof the stat gain is increase, so you basically have base talent on top the upgrade

[undone portal]

zuo is gonna get roughly the same amount of aspd and significantly better sp gain at e2, he gets More stats in that space between 40% and 30%
he also gets s3 access

[abstract mauve]

sp recovery is greatly increased at e2

from +1 sp/s to +2sp/s. that alone makes up for it

[shy quiver]

You've confirmed I am reading it correctly which means it is technically a downgrade in the regard I am referring to
You can shove that "is it so hard to understand" up your ass tbh

[odd sky]

it's not a downgrade, not even technically

[proven kelp]

It's not a downgrade
Downgrade means it gets shittier, which it doesn't

[abstract mauve]

it's 99.9% upgrade. the 0.1% is him losing like 2 aspd at like 63% hp lost or some shit

[shy quiver]

Between Zuo Le and Ulpianus, which is higher E2 priority?

[abstract mauve]

ulpi

[undone portal]

ulpi e2 is a bigger upgrade

[abstract mauve]

i wouldnt say bigger upgrade. ulpi is a generally more flexible unit

[undone portal]

wow thats like a whole saileach pot

point is, being able to access s3 spam is so much more important than whatever minuscule aspd you might lose at certain hp thresholds, + you get it all back once you install mod x3

[nocturne laurel]

or an ely mod 1+ upgrade

[odd sky]

think of it this way
if zuo getting 40 aspd and +1/s sp at 40% hp at e1
at e2 he's getting that at 40% hp and more if he went down even more
just an example not accurate number
@shy quiver

[undone portal]

at e2 40% hp hes getting more sp

[odd sky]

:realmad:

[abstract mauve]

should be +42 aspd at those hp numbers

[odd sky]

:realmad:

[undone portal]

so e2 talent is just a straight upgrade then

[abstract mauve]

nae

at 56% hp lost they both give +40 aspd. so there's a small section where e2 talent gives slightly less aspd

not that you even want aspd on zuo le

he'd arguably be better without it but that's besides the point

[odd sky]

you do
more sp on other talent

[abstract mauve]

he would heal less. him healing removes some sp gain from this talent

light can make a banger dps chart with this i just realized

[odd sky]

i guess

[proven kelp]

So it is an upgrade since in practice less aspd is better!

[abstract mauve]

so true!

[obtuse obsidian]

you need 1k necrosis damage to inflect the elem proc on non boss right?

[hardy pasture]

Yeah

[bright bobcat]

so leizi thunderbringer s2 is best?

[wraith sentinel]

S1 also good though.

Triple damage on her own tile.

[abstract mauve]

i wouldnt go so far as to call it good but it can perform well enough against low hp enemies

[worldly carbon]

rare case of m9 operator not being a crazy idea
but usually s1 s2 enough I guess?

[undone portal]

leizialt s1 consistently feels underwhelming for how often people shill it
on the other hand s3 feels a Lot better than people gauge it

s3 honestly doesnt even do that much less damage than s2 in bad conditions (open battlefield), and starts significantly outdamaging if the stage layout/enemy size works in your favor

[abstract mauve]

it also has a faster cycle iirc

[worldly carbon]

I like her balls
do you think leizi2 + nasti will be a thing?

[abstract mauve]

no

[worldly carbon]

s3 is 2 seconds faster than s2 iirc

[abstract mauve]

i think anything that involves nasti is a meme

[undone portal]

leizi/nasti is about as real as ch'3n toilet. its a giant fuckass nuke but it requires a minute of setup and keeping your target held in place

[worldly carbon]

that's why I love her

[proven kelp]

If it works it works

[abstract mauve]

s2 is 43 cost 36 duration. s3 is 35(or 40) cost 24 duration. damage is dished out faster and she gets her skill earlier. i meant overall skill cycle btw not just the sp cost but that doesnt always matter ig

[undone portal]

the nice part is that leizi s3 doesnt need to be inside the toilet like ch'3n s3 does

[abstract mauve]

if you time nasti to build her tile at the right time, chen3 doesnt either

[undone portal]

that timing sounds kinda tight

[abstract mauve]

it can be ye

[wraith sentinel]

Either way, M9 your Leizi.

She deserves it.

[worldly carbon]

I love lightning aunt
and you should too

[undone portal]

i can only reasonably justify m6 auntie

[fading scaffold]

Got these ops recently through events or recruitment, which 2 would be unique/fun/useful to build? Context I have a well developed team already
Bagpipe, Nearl Alter, Hoshi OG, Phantom, and Weedy

[abstract mauve]

i have her m8 currently cuz im poor but that's besides the point

[ancient current]

that is besides the point

[ancient current]

weedy is a starting point

[abstract mauve]

weedy is the strongest and most unique pusher in the game and generally the most useful in that line-up. relevant niche usage and shows up from time to time in CCs. bagpipe is a nice QoL that's never needed but can be nice

[ancient current]

fib shills phantom in IS

[bright bobcat]

wdym m9?

[ancient current]

all three skills m3

[obtuse obsidian]

dont do that tho

[abstract mauve]

i think he specifically does in relicless

[obtuse obsidian]

the order you list them but from right to left :ya:

[worldly carbon]

what is special about relicless phantom in IS

[abstract mauve]

i think just the fact you can have him on the board very often

he's frd that reduces his own and his summons rdp time soo ye

[worldly carbon]

makes sense
thank you shileds for being so smart and cool

[fading scaffold]

alright, thanks all!

[obtuse obsidian]

phantom alpha is still strong in general tbh

its just this ticket is so fucked up in term of power level :icant:

[violet siren]

is it worth picking manticore so I can borrow one more unit in stronghold protocol?

[hidden nacelle]

i mean yesny
to be fair there arent any good options and manticore is cute but is it worth it for protocol thats 100% up to you

[obtuse obsidian]

i mean thats pretty fine choice tbh
not like the others matter

or you pick for gold certs but ehh

[ancient current]

manticore is the best unit in this selection anyways
not an outright bad operator at all

[violet siren]

hmm

gold cert does sound tempting

eh screw it, imma just pick manticore

[odd sky]

don't raise her tho

me talking with my e2 s1m3 mod1 manticore

[violet siren]

already got fake manticore from ave mujica collab raised, so yea prolly not gonna raise her

[worldly carbon]

the one that has a chance to inflict slow that's not even half of Manticore's?...

[elfin ermine]

WHAT am I supposed to do about Lappland in PV-10 💔💔

[stoic quartz]

get angry, then beat her to a pulp

learn to controll the carnival in you favor, is the best solution

[proven kelp]

The one that deals actual dmg and not just reduce their mvp speed

[elfin ermine]

Fuh that's genius... Why didn't I think of that.

[worldly carbon]

how much damage does she do?

[abstract mauve]

66% of ascalons when both on skill (ok amount)

[elfin ermine]

Anyone with an actual answer though 😭

[odd sky]

you deal dmg when you win the match score killing stuff on the left, that temporarily turned off her dmg reduction

[stoic quartz]

try some help on #strategy

[elfin ermine]

But I can't even get to that part because everyone keeps dying

[ancient current]

#strategy with your squad, you're likely to receive more complete help and without slowmode

[worldly carbon]

that's not too bad
maybe as an ambusher lover I raise her
thank you mister

[odd sky]

that's tanking taunt issue

[haughty holly]

Pram2 can tank it technically but u need a healer

[proven kelp]

What a fraud ambusher lover if you haven't even raised her

[stoic quartz]

guy do we have a list of 5* how are really good for IS?

[worldly carbon]

I don't like ave mujica
edit: especially sakiko tbh

[abstract mauve]

i did the math of it before but ill redo it tomorrow prolly

[haughty holly]

fraud

[odd sky]

#is-station pins, the github link has 5* rec for each is iteration

[abstract mauve]

just is5 and is6 iirc

[odd sky]

does umiri count as welfare

[worldly carbon]

guys I'm noob is kirara good?
I think I'm raising her instead of umiri

[abstract mauve]

she's hella welfare ye. one of the strongest and scales well

[odd sky]

collab welfare right forgot fuze is counted asw

[obtuse obsidian]

actually hard to get welfare

[abstract mauve]

ye but i started my welfare acc like 5 days after the rerun ended god knows why so i have to borrow them

[worldly carbon]

is it allowed to use collab welfares?

[abstract mauve]

welfares are welfares ye (and by that i mean the category definition is arbitrary)

[ancient current]

ibis I already told you multiple times about kirara

[worldly carbon]

I want to raise her shut up
she's good trust

[obtuse obsidian]

then raise her the fuck

[ancient current]

then go ahead

[odd sky]

good survivability trust

[abstract mauve]

she's tanky i think. she has that going for her. the verdant of ambushers

[ancient current]

she is

[worldly carbon]

she can tank for my Ascalon, no?

[ancient current]

she captures gramophones well

[odd sky]

verdant of ambushers? she did it first

[worldly carbon]

actually doesn't kirara have the mvspd module instead of the one that would supposedly make her tankier?

[ancient current]

yes

[worldly carbon]

she's kind of a fraud yeah...

[haughty holly]

Will ibis raise her
Find out next episode

[ancient current]

I know him. he will

but anyways, moving on

[spark sage]

Is crownslayer good

[abstract mauve]

check pins

[mild yacht]

She’s called ‘clownslayer’ for a reason.

[abstract mauve]

yes because CN lore i dont think i can disclose but it's a well known meme now

[mild yacht]

The lore of being the easiest boss because she throws herself into holes for you.

[spark sage]

Then should i get her pots

[mild yacht]

You wouldn’t even if she was good because this is the rerun.

[astral thorn]

How do you get out of nothingness in is6?

[grand wigeon]

When should rose salt return?

[mild yacht]

When Yostar feels like it.

[grand wigeon]

Decent answer I guess?

[ancient current]

roughly a year after thornstar's original run

[grand wigeon]

Thanks

[glass rune]

what tags do i need for aosta

[mild yacht]

They can shuffle it around at will, push it forward or back to fit other events instead.

[astral thorn]

What do I need to do to get out of nothingness in is6?

[abstract mauve]

is this your first time playing this event? if yes then dont get them. they will be free a year from now and CS is generally a unit you wouldnt be leveling. if you played original run then on rerun you get her pots for gold certs

[ancient current]

he doesn't have any guaranteed tags

[left tulip]

Wait a whole year ? i thought less

[spark sage]

Okay then

[ancient current]

aoe ranged sniper and senior op is still a 25% chance for aosta

high copium

[mild yacht]

It is less. Events generally rerun around a year from the original run. It’s already been a few months since it ran.

[astral thorn]

How do you get out of nothingness is 6?

[ancient current]

no clue, but spamming the question will not help
try #is-station

[frail aurora]

I ask again if i should keep this or have 3 power plants

[ancient current]

this is good

[pliant summit]

Is there anything in pins that shows when 6 stars go into the yellow cert shop

[wild cedar]

Don’t level your reception or office anymore

[ancient current]

no, because this would be speculation, under channel rule 5

[pliant summit]

So estimations aren’t allowed?

[ancient current]

no

[pliant summit]

Ah ok. Is Crownslayer good?

[ancient current]

what is true is that most of the time, standard 6* get into cert shop roughly 2 years after their debut. which is not always the case btw

after their first run in cert shop, it's completely unknown

crownslayer is not good

[pliant summit]

I was just wondering since I wanna try and get horn and fia with yelloe certs before they become kernel eventually

[ancient current]

well, praying is your best bet

[raven ermine]

https://akgcc.github.io/shoplist/
You can refer to that and draw your own conclusions

[reef sparrow]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Friends_menu/Profile_theme

is this the same list of profile theme on cn also? or there are newer ones?

[ancient current]

ah I was actually looking for that website a few days ago, thanks

[azure pivot]

Does Ceobe scale better than Heavyshooters? Is her %def to arts damage unique to her?

[ancient current]

generally yes and yes

for her niche specifically, she is kind of hardly matchable

[broken flame]

her knives are really hot

[glass mural]

Take it from me. If you run triple power plants, double trading posts, 2 gold 2 exp factories, you're pretty much always at a deficit of gold to trading post usage (Proviso) and keep needing to supplement it by droning gold.

[frail aurora]

Fair enough

[ancient current]

@abstract mauve @undone portal @languid swallow @faint lotus thoughts on broca? just maxed him out and wondering if he really wants s2m3 mod3 or something, or if he's particularly good at anything

never really used him tbh he's been e1 50 for 6 years until now

[deep topaz]

Ive heard the module improves her kit. Id do some research or watch an analysis video to see if she fits ur play style. If you already have Texas alt or yato alt probably not worth.

[opaque cape]

How often do we get skin selectors in this game ?

[broken flame]

Not too great returns for how expensive she is to build

[abstract mauve]

outside my expertise. i basically only really know what he does but i cant give any more analysis than that

[elfin loom]

After seeing how good pram afk is I kinda regret not getting, is she limited/will she rerun?

[ancient current]

she's standard

[opaque cape]

She is not limited you can get her as an off banner spook

[elfin loom]

O OK nicenice

[ancient current]

she won't rerun, but may appear in banners like orienteering/JO which will be your best shot at getting her

[opaque cape]

.

[elfin loom]

Ah okok

[vital kelp]

shes not lim and she wont rerun

[abstract mauve]

1 time for free

[ancient current]

not very often at all

don't know the frequency

[vital kelp]

like never

[ancient current]

did cn not get...something recently? forgot honestly

[abstract mauve]

afaik no. dont have anything in my depot

[opaque cape]

Fuck I wasted it on maid kjera 🫠

[south fog]

Guys what could be considered a good amount of lmd daylie for someone that log 1 or 2 times a day?

[broken flame]

40k minimum

[random shard]

40k min.

[abstract mauve]

based but also you can only get a max of 18 . it's the same value as that so hard to say that you wasted it if you took that into consideration

[south fog]

[random shard]

That should be doable with the newbie setup in #r-i-i-c pins

Proviso instantly increases that minimum

[south fog]

If i build her she becomes even better on the base?

[sharp sandal]

which mod for goldenglow?

[ancient current]

y1

[random shard]

She's the most cost efficient base op. Do it. Easiest e2 lvl1 of your life

[south fog]

My proviso i didnt touch her i just put her to work and that it

[raven ermine]

More like, if you don't raise her, she's not a base worker
If you do, she's the best base worker in the game

[raven ermine]

Are you using proviso e0

[south fog]

After i finish tragodia lvl90 i go for her i need to work on the base slaves

[haughty holly]

If I had to m3 voucher again, do I s3m3 mon3tr or s3m3 pram3

[raven ermine]

pram

[random shard]

Base slaves > lvl90 op

[ancient current]

i'd do mon3ter but idk what pram s3 does so

[faint lotus]

Surprisingly good dps, has cc and range extension on s2, probably the best 5* guard for sustained multi target dps, his damage, range and cc are nice and the damage being arts really helps him out, m3 on his s2 reduces his self stun duration by a bit but it’s not really necessary unless you need just a little bit more damage. All in all, very solid unit that needs more recognition, spectre tends to overshadow him but their use cases are very different, you don’t need his masteries and get his module if you can spare the blocks

[haughty holly]

The 10 seconds lure burst

[south fog]

I think he is already lvl 87 or something so is not that much

[random shard]

He only needs 88 if you mod2 anyway

[ancient current]

does he want mod3?

[random shard]

But either way, base slaves > other

[abstract mauve]

have you noticed any overlap between broca and hadiya's roles?

[south fog]

Just 3 more lvl

[ancient current]

oh she has lure? didn't know

[polar pier]

In IS3, is it wise to enter bosky on floor 3 with barely any e2 ops?

[obtuse obsidian]

thats like asking to die (so do it)

[abstract mauve]

is3 bosky is kinda cancer

[south fog]

Also if i do mod 3 after lvl88 is a waste ?

[faint lotus]

Wants it but can do with out, the defence increase helps him deal with elites, but can be supplemented with extra healing

[polar pier]

I see ty2 😀

[ancient current]

I've played around with hadiya a bit, and to be fair the difference in damage type should be radically different enough methinks
hadiya really doesn't have a lot of damage so that would change it a bit as well. more for the stun niche ig
I need to play around with her more though

[raven ermine]

Pram s3 is burst art with comparable damage to logos s3, with added util
The lure is on startup of the skill

Overall i'd do pram before monster with the voucher because of cost efficiency

[broken flame]

Comparable burst with Logos S3 however he does come out on top burst-wise in majority of situations. She has true AoE though and a free freeze within her vicinity upon death+revive. Even better if Sash2 is also being utilized in the team since she doesn't freeze herself and can use that window to kill the target/s.

[ancient current]

hm ic

one thing i do really like about hadiya is how quickly operational she is. she is a stage opener

[limber flare]

Wang has like 2 months remaining before coming to global right?

[ancient current]

around 2 sure

[limber flare]

alongside pc port, I hope

[south fog]

It change something on the nervous parenting ?

[faint lotus]

He deals so much more damage than hadiya its kind of sad, hadiya only really has the low starting cost and the helidropability, whereas broca’s s2 deals significantly more damage and it’s arts

[raven ermine]

Would you do mod lv3 for 3 less aspd on enemies under NI burst ?

[broken flame]

Yeah would be really interesting to see what they plan to do for the 6* of the mercenary archetype

[ancient current]

pretty much what I figured
hadiya is quite nice as a stage opener imo. she does it fairly well. beyond that she just kind of explodes

although in the end I definitely think she is not the worst 5* like she was shunned before

[south fog]

I didnt understand nothing but it does more dmg if i put lvl3?

[ancient current]

I can name at least five 5* ops worse than her

[limber flare]

flamebringer

[raven ermine]

No, basically you're wasting mats, it's not worth it
The upgrade is very very small

[broken flame]

Alter when 🥀

[limber flare]

dunno, maybe like 2-3 years

[raven ermine]

~~Her e0 art is enough for her to be relevant ~~

[abstract mauve]

oh damn
i might be underestimating the arts vs physical difference between them. other than broca just dealing more damage overall

[grim harness]

Is she any useful

[south fog]

Oh i understand now thank you

[broken flame]

🥀

[limber flare]

we need a armored operator tho

we got miksaparato, now I want armored women

[raven ermine]

Only a consideration for base
And even then, crazy expensive combo requiring multiple units
Bis exp tho

[ancient current]

she's fine but needs very high investment to work properly
if she isn't mod3 s3m3 she doesn't exist

@limber flare remember that this isn't a blogging channel. keep comments relevant

[limber flare]

sorry.

[raven ermine]

Well even then, vivi's performance is nothing great
Using her a lot, ST damage is decent to good, but there's a few caveats to it

[ancient current]

vivi's performance is quite underestimated imo. she is not that far from surtr
unfortunately that's too much investment for a surtr downgrade

[faint lotus]

Everyone underestimates broca, spectre exists so no one even thinks to look at him

[sharp crest]

Surtr better thN Viviana

[raven ermine]

Yes

[ancient current]

yes

[grim harness]

how bout her

[limber flare]

How about zofia or the robot archer from wang event?

[ancient current]

draftable in is6, just ok elsewhere

[ancient current]

zofia is genuine balls
jie, was it? forgot. iirc shileds said he is nothing spectacular

[limber flare]

jie is sui,its ju

[ancient current]

ah right
uh, what's his name again

oh ju

[broken flame]

She is good when she gets her ModY, which should be soon-ish

[limber flare]

by the way, is viy(the new caster from ch17 event) worth investing in?

[broken flame]

He's a Mystic Caster

[ancient current]

I haven't heard horrible things about him but looks like an other mystic caster victim to me
forgot though

[grim harness]

40 pull's and both are loses eh... Well at least Entelechia looks interesting.

[abstract mauve]

his issue isnt mystic caster. it's just low numbers

[pliant summit]

• she’s very pretty

[abstract mauve]

they could've doubled his numbers to make him good
but we dont live in that world

[ancient current]

anyways i'll s2m3 mod3 him, ty for input

[graceful token]

where be yee accurate Arknights Tier List

[obtuse obsidian]

in game (stars)

[ancient current]

"accurate" and "tier list" is antonymous

[broken flame]

She has a really interesting skill in S2. Has some quite flexible applications (especially with FRDs) since it's technically global range as it follows the most recently deployed ground unit. Great for stuff that wants a lot of hit counts too.

[ancient current]

is6 bot

[graceful token]

I remember there was a google sheet with a pretty good tier list

[shadow bay]

fancy furniture killer

[limber flare]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E7HmgKWiV8pKpJpvpVzziYxnaQTP01Vtw_PXEdL7XPA/edit?usp=sharing

[broken flame]

Mod trust...

[raven ermine]

Pretty good would be very arguable

[ancient current]

if you're talking about the dead site edition one, it's pretty middling

[limber flare]

this?

[raven ermine]

Oh that one
Not good no

[abstract mauve]

it is far from a good tierlist

[ancient current]

I'll always shit on generalistic tier lists for how mediocre they all are
they will never be correct

[graceful token]

yeah

[languid swallow]

tier list when there's 300+ ops means so much cross referencing it's utterly pointless

not to mention the stage layout has a massive influence

[raven ermine]

Also completely pointless when many ops are very good to irreplaceable at some specific things

[ancient lintel]

Nothing, cause tierlist are shit

[shadow bay]

cesith tier list

[ancient current]

he did a tier list? I don't keep myself updated on pointless endeavours sorry

[abstract mauve]

he has 20 billion. he's the tierlist guy yes
he updates it very often it's just really shit icl

[languid swallow]

bro puts things in a graded format with +/- subcategories

[bright bobcat]

this resource is tormenting me how can i get more of them besides crafting cause i got a ways before that

[static glade]

The only hope you have is event shop if they have it

[bright bobcat]

[shadow bay]

iirc theres one in sss missions

check also is6 it should have that

theres also a paid pack that give material vouchers

[languid swallow]

clear 15-9

dw enantiomer is hell on earth to craft as well

[shadow bay]

but then again ur best bet is unlocking the recipe and diy

[languid swallow]

and since its a new arc you should be able to start ch15 off rip right

[raven ermine]

Should be available after like ch3 or smth

[bright bobcat]

15$ for my sanity seems worth it take my money

[static glade]

The things I do for free stuff...

[wispy jolt]

Wut

[abstract mauve]

huh

[languid swallow]

i mean lappland kills them so I would personally also try to fight back

[abstract mauve]

[broken flame]

ok i haven't seen that before lmao

[limber flare]

Virtuosa or Tragodia would be strong for this, or exuisai alter.

[wispy jolt]

No the enemy is attacking the boss

[mild yacht]

Long as they’re revealed, they will try to fight each other when in range.

[static glade]

Tbf everyone hates Lappland in Siracusa

[wispy jolt]

Even the fire dancers can burn her

[nocturne sandal]

Bro didn't read the mechanic

[wispy jolt]

I did and it didnt mention anywhere that enemies can dmg the boss

[haughty holly]

@raven ermine thx for help but I did planner and checked: apparently alrdy have all the mats for pram2 s3 compared to mon3tr s3

[mild yacht]

Sir, this is EN. Reading is forbidden by law.

[languid swallow]

hey she just wants everyone in Volsinii to find their own identity through pure chaos

[graceful token]

Tragodia's Exploding Cat Morgana Persona 5

[raven ermine]

Planner always coming in clutch

[haughty holly]

Fr I forgot it's such a goated tool

[raven ermine]

Buddy tf are you on

[shadow bay]

that 2 off topic media in a row

[broken flame]

Rule #4

[obtuse obsidian]

tragedy brainrotted him

[mild yacht]

Can’t rot something that wasn’t there.

[raven ermine]

Was about to give blue points to light

[languid swallow]

is nasti still a gimmick or have CN found funny abuse tech for her

[raven ermine]

afaik, not much she's really doing

[wraith sentinel]

Maybe when CCB#5 rolls around.

[limber flare]

Miksparato worth investing for when I have lemuen and exu?

[mild yacht]

They aren’t even remotely the same role.

[turbid ocean]

@graceful token Please familiarize yourself with the channel rules

Unnecessary media and blogging are not allowed

[limber flare]

I know, but I remember that miksaparato restores bullets or something

[languid swallow]

the ammo gimmick he has takes too much effort for barely any meaningful returns

[shadow bay]

but but... but the ammo synergy or some shit

[haughty holly]

It's not as op as u think it is

[static glade]

The ammo isn't worth it to the point you need it really

[limber flare]

then grandaddy miksaparato's gonna sit there it is

[languid swallow]

wow he restored my ammo

ok when will it make or break your strategy
and even if it does, that's a pretty yikes strategy

[mild yacht]

-# Just abuse it in stronghold so Lemuen never gets to finish aiming s3.

[haughty holly]

U build sankta if u want brick wall s3 counter attack p much

[languid swallow]

Sankta only good as a brick in Stronghold rn

[static glade]

Unless his skill was restore ammo to unit skills like Wisadel or Wang, then we're talking

[wraith sentinel]

S1 is Defensive Recovery so it's pretty unreliable and S3 only restores 4 at M3.

[haughty holly]

His s2 is good for tanking big damage tho, that was used for some stages

[buoyant sigil]

Tbf in stronghold with high laterano stacks lemuen has such a stupid amount of ammo that it’s kind of a nuclear bombing situation

[wraith sentinel]

(His Ammo replenishment only works on Laterano Operators.)

[mild yacht]

If she gets to finish pulling all three billion triggers.

[buoyant sigil]

Give wang little fairy wings and a gun, then we talk

[undone portal]

kinda just does arts/slow okayish and ends up not being really standout for either. typical centurion thing of really wanting e2 to do his job
s2 is ideally used to slow enemies before they reach him but he needs to be blocking to get his talent boost so his kit doesnt really synergize with itself
if you want melee arts damage, guardmiya/astesia exist. if you want slow, youre overflowing with options that have better cycles/uptime than broca s2

[mild yacht]

Just send him back in time to Laterano circa MT.

[static glade]

That's why iz so sadge

[buoyant sigil]

wang now wants to kill the law instead of sui, trust

[undone portal]

||laws already dead,|| exualt got there first

[buoyant sigil]

They did talk about send him back so maybe he gets there first

i was gonna spoiler a thing or two but honestly i don’t know what part to spoiler without just omitting the entire sentence

[slim tusk]

encase with ||

mod will crush lore tho

[buoyant sigil]

What’s the most generally used leizi2 skill, by that way? She’s surely a M9 candidate as I’ve heard, but I don’t know which to prioritize using

I do think I see s2 used a lot but I honestly have no idea

[raven ermine]

s2
M9 is arguable if you're not pushing IS

[buoyant sigil]

Hm? Why specifically IS? Dealing with some specific maps?

[undone portal]

s2 is the easiest to work with
s3 has the highest damage ceiling
s1 is there if you need her to cover as a laneholder instead of a nuker

[ancient current]

hm that's different from the glaze I got from pileofjunk ty

[raven ermine]

You don't really need either s1 or s3 in gen content
Yeah mostly versatility

[undone portal]

hes definitely better than hadiya, but that bar is in hell

[buoyant sigil]

I see. Is S3 the same as the tragodia situation

[raven ermine]

What do you mean ?

[undone portal]

sorta. s3 is very much designed to cover for the tight map layouts where s2 starts falling apart

[broken flame]

S3 wants cramped spaces ideally to make the most of the bouncing electric balls.

[buoyant sigil]

Tragodia’s S3 is great and everything, but it’s only really necessary in specific content because S2 does just as well in general content but more conveniently

[buoyant sigil]

And it benefits from tougher, tighter layouts because of the bouncy things yeah?

[raven ermine]

Oh yeah, then definitely
S3 is very conditional on top of all of that too, which is not really the case with trag s3
Trag s3 issue is opportunity cost

[undone portal]

leizi s3s a bit more applicable for gen content since . well, s2 isnt summoning catbombs for one, but tight map layouts and multi-tile bosses are a bit more common than the dp/rdp reductions that would justify swapping tragodia to s3

[buoyant sigil]

Interesting, interesting. And I believe that’s why both are typically considered to be able to stay E1 for long? Because they appreciate the investment but usually prefer S2?

[obtuse obsidian]

i think leizi still want earlier e2 for stats and mastery

[undone portal]

something like that, leizialt very much appreciates stats tho, liberator things

[raven ermine]

Leizi definitely benefits more from masteries and levels

[buoyant sigil]

yeah damage
and especially liberator x module

[obtuse obsidian]

trag e1 50 and e2 80 kinda the same shit tho

[buoyant sigil]

For normal enemies yeah it does… about the same, ish?

[undone portal]

yea, trag might as well play exactly the same if youre in is and skill tree renders the breakpoint meaningless

[obtuse obsidian]

trag did not even make defender/supporter that much better squad even tho he is beyond broken

[buoyant sigil]

An Ageless for a reason

[undone portal]

thats just because youd be making a strange decision to not draft angelina/raidian first

[broken flame]

This reminds me I have to raise my Ange 🥀

[ancient current]

oh ange > trag in is6?

[obtuse obsidian]

no its ange benefit from e2 more then trag

[buoyant sigil]

Don’t you get a raidian in support squad once you up her

[faint lotus]

Was assuming you had already decided to build him and just explaining what you’d get, he’s kind of a generic unit, that doesn’t particularly excel at anything, he is somewhere in between arts fighters and firewhistle in use, and you’d often rather just use one of them instead

[obtuse obsidian]

so if you use the insta e2 in IS5/6 you pick ange or raidian instead of trag

[buoyant sigil]

Uhhm probably not what it’s called but the one with the reserve ops

[ancient current]

ah well duh yeah

but trag is prio draft anyway no?

[broken flame]

people use Gnosis more than Trag afaik

[undone portal]

good draft on later floors for stall, its just that you would prefer angelina/gnosis on early floors for the damage and raidian for the . everything

[ancient current]

yeah im already building him. was just wondering about his applications mainly. but i already have firewhistle m6 so

[buoyant sigil]

Wasn’t there a rdp time tongbao that made tragodia’s catbomb insane

[obtuse obsidian]

relic and tungbao

[buoyant sigil]

yeah

[obtuse obsidian]

you can have 2 seconds cats in IS6

and 40 seconds cats in IS2

[wraith sentinel]

S2 also wants E2 because it gives her a stacking Attack buff (up to 25) for every time a lightning strike occurs and with Talent 2 all Skill Activations create lightning strikes on all tiles in range (and S2 has a range of 25 tiles at max).

[buoyant sigil]

Oh, that is… a lot of thunder

The weather forecast for tomorrow in rhodes island is leizi

[broken flame]

Passenger who 🥀

[slim tusk]

yeah you don't want e1 leizi for long
it's copable but

[wraith sentinel]

But yeah, without E2 the attack buff stacking takes a lot longer on S2.

(It takes between 7 and 13 seconds for one specific tile to be struck by lightning if I recall correctly.)

[buoyant sigil]

Quite interesting. Yeah, I mainly mentioned it because I have heard that, if you have higher priority operators, she’s okay to leave at E1/Max until you can go the rest of the way with her

Not that I currently do though. Upgrading her right about now.

[buoyant sigil]

That one stronghold protocol character?

[raven ermine]

❌
That one RA character

[buoyant sigil]

Not gonna lie he aged kind of horribly outside of RA usage right?

[raven ermine]

Can't age horribly when you release in trash tier

[slim tusk]

he was never that good so

[raven ermine]

Thanks passenger for modules

[broken flame]

Chain Caster redemption when

[obtuse obsidian]

passenger released in the grave

peeked from the grave with module then went back in to sleep in

[buoyant sigil]

Oh wow he was already trash on release hg really likes releasing trashy 30+ dp casters huh

[slim tusk]

chain caster pretty bad they buffed the archetype

[obtuse obsidian]

they even gave his archtype a direct buff

[wraith sentinel]

(Also, without her Talent 2 using Leizi S1 is pretty annoying because she gets hit by the enemy she strikes if she doesn't kill it. And you don't get the extra damage from the lightning strikes, even if minor. Visually/auditively feels very lacking too without the lightning.)

[obtuse obsidian]

tbh caster releases were extremely horrundos for long time

only when logos released he broke the curse

[buoyant sigil]

Still waiting for kal to pull up at sargon 😔.

How’s paprika?

[regal phoenix]

Hoederer vs ulpi what's the difference

[haughty holly]

Is there any other source that can silence besides lapp

[wraith shell]

Best 2op combo when proviso and quartz is resting?

[frail nymph]

if I got nothing going on atm I should be spending my sanity on pv-9 right

[haughty holly]

One is a statstick

[slim tusk]

one is good
one has cake

[ancient current]

https://tomimi.dev

[haughty holly]

Thx

[haughty holly]

When it comes to place and forget type, is normal lapp still the best for this

[buoyant sigil]

Hoederer bakes amazing pastries, that is true

[haughty holly]

Am gonna try a strat to silence those dogshit beer truck

[ancient current]

don’t derail the convo on hoe

[odd sky]

skybox silence?

[ancient current]

I mean she's definitely the most consistent

[haughty holly]

Didn't even know lapp2 can silence either

[regal phoenix]

Ulpi is the stat?

[raven ermine]

Not really, i would rather have lappalt
If you don't have her, i guess ?
Silence isn't really an often useful mechanic, and not a very "place and forget" one either imo

[buoyant sigil]

I’m fairly sure her drones’ attacks do

[raven ermine]

After her talent warmup

[regal phoenix]

Why ulpi good but hoederer not good

[slim tusk]

better skill

[obtuse obsidian]

chat do someone have the picture for IS6 diffeculty squad medals?

[lyric lagoon]

just needs some set-up time after placement is all

[haughty holly]

I'm on last stage of s stage and the left lane is genuinely giga cancer cuz of the beer
Imma try lapp2 and see what happens

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah

How’s paprika, by the way?

[obtuse obsidian]

cute garbage

[odd sky]

7% tp on cc

[slim tusk]

ulpi s3 has higher atk buff,tp,stun and better cycle

[raven ermine]

keep in mind lappalt needs 40s before she silences anything

[buoyant sigil]

Doesn’t she also have tailoring

[raven ermine]

Yes

[haughty holly]

praying mon3tr hoshi2 leizi2 can hold lane long enough

[acoustic peak]

Is this a free ten pull? I checked my inventory and didn't see any kernel ten pull tickets. Or have i just forgotten what the 10 kernel pull icon looks like?

[buoyant sigil]

Better than nothing shrug

[lyric lagoon]

and then there’s also talent 1 that stacks up a decent amount more

[lyric lagoon]

that means both kernel and regular headhunting permits (don’t do it)

[wraith sentinel]

Just press on it to see the breakdown, but no.

[regal phoenix]

According to Google, To reduce an operator's attack interval from 2.5 seconds to 1 second in Arknights, you need a total of +150 Aspd, is this true or false?

[wraith sentinel]

True.

New Attack Interval = (100 / 100 + ASPD buff) * (Original Attack Interval - Attack Interval Reduction if present)

[haughty holly]

Rare Google W

[raven ermine]

smth smth broken clock twice a day

[lyric lagoon]

not really, they’re just borrowing from wikis, they still can’t do any actual gameplay-based judgement, just calculations from formulas already provided to them

[obtuse obsidian]

bro let them have this small w smh

[wraith sentinel]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Attribute/Attack_interval#Attack_Interval_calculation
But yeah, the formula is directly there on the wiki. Not that hard to find (or use).

[lyric lagoon]

ah yes, let us cheer on the multi-billionaire corporation sucking on our data

[mild yacht]

Not like they’re the only one.

[raven ermine]

||Hi discord||

[wide knot]

Which one?

[obtuse obsidian]

2

[wide knot]

Can I ask why?

[obtuse obsidian]

conisstence buff/afk friendly which is the best she can do nowadays

[unborn kayak]

the lattest 4* Akkord, how are they?

[vital kelp]

bad

[unborn kayak]

2 and if you want more than 3, while she's an outdated unit Skalter S2 still stands as one of the rare healing choice for amity ops like Mudrock and S3 is pretty to watch.

[raven ermine]

Surely we're not shilling enmities healing right now

[vital kelp]

enmity healing is so niche

[wide knot]

Yeah actually build her just for mudrock lol

[broken flame]

Me when I heal the blue box

[unborn kayak]

Mudrock my love, that IS outfit is so pretty

[vital kelp]

also her range is awkward if u actually use her

[slim tusk]

build thorns2 ril

[lyric lagoon]

me when my frozen blue box gets frozen squared

[hidden nacelle]

what would be the top 10 IS6 units (for a thing my friends are doing these are bans) besides trag Wis raid

[hardy pasture]

IS without top 10 is still incredibly easy.

Higher difficulties need higher luck tho.

[obtuse obsidian]

exu2 hoshi2 should be banned too

[hidden nacelle]

agree, but still asking.

[raw wigeon]

Why would you call it easy if you cannot consistently pass at the highest difficulty

[lyric lagoon]

ange, mizuki, and gnosis asw

[hidden nacelle]

easy with luck

[tender heart]

bro just described all roguelites 😭

[raven ermine]

You can safely ban trag exu hoshi raidian ange gnosis

[hidden nacelle]

alrigh

[raven ermine]

likely leizi too ig

[obtuse obsidian]

ban all agents as 1 big ban

[haughty holly]

Just ban all operators

[hardy pasture]

Because it’s not like you gain extra rewards from doing it a lil more consistent.
You just save some time.

[obtuse obsidian]

no he can keep vanilla

[raw wigeon]

It's like saying IS5 is easy because you can cheese all the rewards with a one-day account. Apparently many people don't just play for the rewards

[broken flame]

Entel carry trust

[obtuse obsidian]

IS5 easy cause 1 encounter make it easy

[haughty holly]

What if no encounter

[raven ermine]

You reset

[obtuse obsidian]

the encounter chance is 90%
90% easy mode is easy IS

[pliant summit]

What’s the best factions for the new gamemode? I keep trying to do Sargon but without the high tiers they feel kinda weak

[odd sky]

kjera yan is decent early

[pliant summit]

Aight thanks

[honest robin]

What should I take from selector?

[raven ermine]

Would take ascalon/monster
You have a lot of things to do in that account

[odd sky]

ascalon or mon3tr yea
keep in mind ascalon will be in shop for 180 later this year

[woeful mesa]

Not gotten to test it yet, but does Hadiya's Child of the Wilds talent proc on Merchent DP cost?

I assume not given the wording of it, but I also don't know if Merchents thing counts as deployment internally.

[slate sigil]

will be in shop for yellow cert?

or where

[woeful mesa]

As others said, the generalist suggestion would be Ascalon or Mon3ter based on what you have.

Since you already have really strong generalist contenders though, I would also suggest Dorothy if you ever want to shake things up a bit gameplay wise. Trapmasters are a ton of fun, even if they aren't for everyone.

[honest robin]

When this skin will be in shop?

[cosmic minnow]

-# Wang:

[inner bramble]

how much total damage does Necrosis do to bosses? The DoT is stated but not the duration 💀

[cosmic minnow]

Is mylnar worth getting even with having Leizi?

[odd sky]

damn #help is dead

[hidden nacelle]

mizuki is s1, yes? (IS)

[odd sky]

s2

[hidden nacelle]

Leizi is very strong, mylanr does similar, no problem with having 2 very strong

[odd sky]

is this skill 2?

[silver sky]

does anybody have the link for the google docs with the tierlist for skills?

[waxen flame]

im afraid in phase 2 yu will be too expensive to redeploy

[cosmic minnow]

I'm just debating who to get from the selector, or if it's even worth it
https://www.krooster.com/u/meso

[bright lake]

wtf bird only got 10 res on d15 okay

[hidden nacelle]

worth royal tokebing?

[obtuse obsidian]

frankly no IS increase res on diffeculty except IS3

[inner bramble]

no, S1

[bright lake]

okay ty

[cosmic minnow]

Ive been hearing Mont3r, just wondering if theres anyone else worth it

[bright lake]

hell no

[worldly fern]

i shouldve listened not to pull in standard, 150 pulls, no leizi lol

[obtuse obsidian]

tho they do get passive damage redection for phy/arts so generally you need more damage

[wraith sentinel]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Necrosis_Damage

[cosmic minnow]

I got her in one ten today, probably because the stage that I beat to get the final currency to do the pull had thunder in the name (not actually but its a funny coincidence)

[bright lake]

generally speaking, FRDs tend to get the most out of spec royal tokens, and even then depends what pot you land on

[obtuse obsidian]

tbh exu2 is like the best current eater for royal tokens

spec ones i mean

unsure if wang is better eater or not

[worldly fern]

i would use them on wang since i prob wont get exu2 anytime soon

[waxen flame]

@obtuse obsidian risk 22 7-18 was going well with yu strats until he instakilled everyone on top with his aura

[obtuse obsidian]

bro got aura farmed

[waxen flame]

😭 i cant get a break with unc

[wraith sentinel]

Damage control probably needed then, so he only dies on Yu's tile for example.

[waxen flame]

im pretty sure i need very precise timing and damage control

[waxen flame]

maybe after he is at very low hp, i use trag cat right after yu and if that does not kill then fast redeploy mantra s3 + bagpipe s2 to hopefully kill him where they will die to the damage aura

[wraith sentinel]

The gains don't seem that good at first glance, P3 just increases the number of stones he has by one.

[buoyant sigil]

Do we have a list of side story word count I’ve seen the numbers for some I guess but not nearly all

Are there any resources where I can visualize such things

[obtuse obsidian]

1 stone thats like 5 enemies dead smh

[wraith sentinel]

S3:

[haughty holly]

What does vina vict do

[buoyant sigil]

watch as her lions all die and she has to wait half the stage to get them back

[obtuse obsidian]

deal true damage
with year 1 cooldown

[waxen flame]

@wraith sentinel so from now have to have damage control?

[silver sky]

wow this stage is nostalgic

[obtuse obsidian]

checking his pots his p4 and 5 are kinda the (big pots)

[wraith sentinel]

I relied on Yu's Burn burst to seal the deal once he got very low (removed my other damage dealers), but it was only Risk 15 so see how it goes for you I suppose?

[pine plover]

throw some landmine into him

on HCM, he has lure immunity for what its worth

[wraith sentinel]

Yeah, not such great Royal Token targets. Compared to Exusiai her P3 is quite decent (an additional+8% attack buff to Lateranos with Ammo).

[waxen flame]

im trying risk 22 which means im only not taking the +7 dp cost risk

[buoyant sigil]

In a more comprehensive analysis:
Though the S3 Lions look okay-ish at first stat-wise, they cannot be healed by your operators, (except bards, I guess?) so they are very prone to dying. The problem is that she depends on them to be useful and takes way too long to get her skill back.
Not to mention they just can’t appear on undeployable or ranged tiles, making her not only depend on summons that die with a single paper cut but that are map dependant regardless. And since it’s a 3x3 area, it’s not a common occurrence at all.
One of the few operators where I’d actually somewhat recommend using ptilopsis next to, even if the increase is small
It’s high investment for next nothing. Just don’t bother with her, even if her skin might be pretty.

[waxen flame]

the +7 dp cost risk is bs

[waxen flame]

from risk 0-15 you can pick the easier risks but higher ones you have to pick really bad ones

[wraith sentinel]

Mm, well either way good luck I suppose.

[waxen flame]

new problem is that the arty oneshots all high ground ops

[odd sky]

s1 isn't DoT btw

[vital kelp]

15 seconds

I think

[odd sky]

[frank wing]

what sash and gnosis skills for stronghold

[ashen surge]

Shu would still be 300 sparks in the next CNY right?

[frank wing]

actually ill put my question in the actual stronghold channel i forgot about that

[oblique grail]

Which one

[frank wing]

who is the first one for?

[vital kelp]

Sakiko higher prio than hoshi2

[unkempt birch]

How to unlock the third support unit slot?

[vital kelp]

Upgrade reception

Not recommmended

[oblique grail]

Hoshi2

[unkempt birch]

Why?

[unkempt birch]

Until what level?

[sleek finch]

until lv1

tldr
the main purpose of upgradint reception room is having more friendslots
but you dont really need that in the first place with like 65 default slots

[oblique grail]

I forgot he exist

Is he any good

[sleek finch]

you can continue forgetting

[west hazel]

does this game have any redeemable codes ?

[rocky pilot]

Only merchandise for cosmetics in game

[west hazel]

i gather you only get those for real purchases ?

[rocky pilot]

Two words
Male skadi

[unkempt birch]

I upgraded control center thinking it'd increase support unit slot...

[spare jetty]

keep forgetting his existence

[unkempt birch]

Now it's maxed

[unkempt birch]

Goat Fangyi

[sleek finch]

upgrading control center is mandatory

[neat acorn]

[cosmic minnow]

Do y'all think buying the $30 selector for mon3tr is worth it?

[pseudo flume]

Still a good upgrade but reception room is the Borrow Slot increase

[pseudo flume]

From a meta standpoint no

I dunno from your perspective

[rocky pilot]

Don't upgrade if you're doing 252

[neat acorn]

30$ sounds like a lot

[cosmic minnow]

well I dont really have any good healers

[neat acorn]

Silence

[cosmic minnow]

(and mont3r is like the second? best if I'm remembering correctly)

[rocky pilot]

You can still work with the 5* medics no?

[pseudo flume]

Don't worry people spent that amount of Money for the Kal'sit Maid skin 🤫

[cosmic minnow]

Might be third

[rocky pilot]

Ptilopsis, warfarin, silence

[pseudo flume]

3rd best imo

[cursive maple]

3rd best what?

[cosmic minnow]

This is who all I got rn
https://www.krooster.com/u/meso

[pseudo flume]

Healer

[rocky pilot]

Kal
Is right there

[neat acorn]

Why is your krooster picture genuinely just blank

[cosmic minnow]

Isn't she bad as a healer-

[fallow mango]

I heard that myrtle is good for newbie
I have build myrtle e2lv40
Who should i build next to carry me
(Should i show my 5star and 4star too?)

[cursive maple]

nice edit, but i can only remember haruka being above her

[neat acorn]

She’s good

[pseudo flume]

She is since her main role is Laneholding

[cosmic minnow]

But she's bad AS A HEALER

[neat acorn]

Prama2 is right there

[lyric lagoon]

she's usable as a healer (in IS)

[pseudo flume]

Nas that's why I said 3rd

[cosmic minnow]

IS 😭

[neat acorn]

Useable

[cursive maple]

this js not true myrtle is good enough at e1
pram2 mlynar mon3 sa2

[rocky pilot]

Actually shouldn't you have the 5* vouchers still hanging around either for ptilopsis or silence

[pseudo flume]

Haruka and Eyjaberry is still above Mon3tr

[modern gust]

how often do these show up?

[cosmic minnow]

About that...

[lyric lagoon]

she is top 2 medic though

[neat acorn]

What did you select

[rocky pilot]

I will throw you into a pit of infected abyssal hunters

[pseudo flume]

In healing, Mon3tr is indeed higher than both of em but the Bounce is too finicky

[cursive maple]

oh i didnt know eyja is better

[pseudo flume]

Every 6 months

[fallow mango]

I'm not good with game slang
So pram and mon3 e2lv60?

[cosmic minnow]

I started playing on mon3tr banner, didn't look to see who was worth it so I just used it on a random 5*

I do have ptil though

[neat acorn]

Wth

[pseudo flume]

Overall she should be better but Mon3tr is better at healing if they know how to use the Bounce heal well

[sour tide]

which outfit should i use on nian?

[lyric lagoon]

mainly cause of her range (and targeting) + afk ability, the burst healing from mon3tr and eyja are both comparable to each other but mon3tr has better cycling and provides more

[formal shadow]

roll a dice

[pseudo flume]

Issue is Eyjaberry is Foolproof due to the Big Range and Great Healing

[rocky pilot]

News flash
Cosmetics are your own thing, not ours

[lyric lagoon]

ask #arknights , not here

[neat acorn]

Ask yourself

[cursive maple]

you want to e2 all of them eventually, raise pram2 to e1 first then e2 mlynar and then e2 pram and others

[cosmic minnow]

?

[pseudo flume]

I asked and heard static

[rocky pilot]

Just stick with her

[cosmic minnow]

Eh, I do like mon3tr, just don't know if $30 is worth it for her

[neat acorn]

Just stick with Karl and Phil if you need a healer that bad

[lyric lagoon]

also level up your skills

[cosmic minnow]

I just heard that she was the best option from the selector

[rocky pilot]

Riddle me this
Are you simp?
If yes, go ahead
If no, don't

[cursive maple]

also most of the 5 stars are bad in this game, you will raise only for base or some handful ones for combat like tequila krooster proviso la pluma etc

[haughty holly]

That is indeed shit
Mannnnn thx for the long explanation

[cosmic minnow]

"Simp" for a robot

(or construct or whatever she is)

[neat acorn]

If you want her so bad mine as well

I am not recommending it tho

[nimble marten]

besides Pram (I dont have her) who else is good to hold the candy cart swarm in PV-1-EX ???

[cosmic minnow]

Is there anyone else worth from it?

[neat acorn]

30 dollars I can buy 2 chicken burger at arknights hq

[lyric lagoon]

$30 selector isn't really ever worth it since eventually standard ops will become certable, and it's not like she'll benefit your acc as of rn since you alr have ptilopsis, and if you still need more healing then in about 6 months is kaltsit alter banner

[cosmic minnow]

Ah, alr

[neat acorn]

Is it that stage with tons of holes

[cosmic minnow]

Well then I won't spend on that. Thanks

[nimble marten]

there is no holes

its the candy cart swarm

[neat acorn]

Uh

[rocky pilot]

I am talking about mon3tr

[sour tide]

which one should i unlock first?

[lyric lagoon]

larper

[rocky pilot]

I still don't get that joke and don't want to

[neat acorn]

Larpland

[faint adder]

Does Thorn Alter worth to build? I mean, I've tried use him in IS and quiet helpful when handling crowded enemies (specially when get aspd buff)

[neat acorn]

I just used hoshi2 and some healing

[scenic wharf]

for ulpi s3 do you make the 2nd silverash slash dmg go through consistently? sometimes it goes through sometimes it doesn't (im insta ripping s3 on pause speed)

[nimble marten]

nvm the machine gun duel did its job lol

the fukin machine gun duel beats out Leizi + Mylnar WTF ???

[neat acorn]

Nice

[oblique grail]

Ask Huang Yifeng

Maybe he knows

[nimble marten]

ik but how tf two 5 stars beat out two high tier 6 stars man

[neat acorn]

Does playing stronghold with poeple make it easier or harder

[oblique grail]

Depends on people?

[severe crypt]

Other than the extra wait time, mp is kinda a net benefit, as not all leaks end up being leaks

[slate ridge]

ideally wait 0.5s before skilling if your position or device isnt good

[neat acorn]

I am like lvl 72 so

Wow the wait time is crazy

[severe crypt]

Thats not really the wait time I was talking about 🥹

[neat acorn]

Hm

[buoyant sigil]

No problem! Happy to help.

[severe crypt]

I meant waiting for everyone to ready up each round if you finish setup early

[neat acorn]

Which strategy would be the best for first time

200 ms is decent for four poeple

[scenic wharf]

what is good position? right up against or max range of silverash slash

[haughty holly]

Amiya strat one not bad

[buoyant sigil]

Did you get w/wisadel from rerolling or nah

Back in the limited

[slate ridge]

max
the longer anchor is in air the longer Ulpi redeploys

[rare berry]

Where is the PV-SP-1 stage? I don't see it

[slate ridge]

next to PV 10

[buoyant sigil]

In standard stages after pv-10

[rare berry]

Ohhhh

[rare berry]

I just realize

[neat acorn]

Wait I thought getting 2 of the same ops promotes them to e2

[slate ridge]

if youre called Kazemaru

[static glade]

[slate ridge]

or if youre T3 - T6

[buoyant sigil]

In stronghold protocol, it’s 3 of the same op

[neat acorn]

I read the tutorial wrong then ig

This is why not reading and finding out is better

[solemn void]

Is Hoshi Alter Module worth to invest on?

[nimble marten]

I think so ???

[buoyant sigil]

Yes

Her module is quite good

[solemn void]

Alright, thanks guys!

[neat acorn]

What’s the most important thing I should do in stronghold expect

[formal shadow]

either gun for 1/2 main alliances or upgrade shop asap or something

[serene marlin]

What else do I get to level 2? So that I can upgrade my control center

[light warren]

dorm is fine, you can always downgrade dorm

[stoic quartz]

https://akgcc.github.io/
did they removed the area where we can sort and see all operators? i can't find it...

[serene marlin]

Oh if I can downgrade it later then perfect

[light warren]

dont mess with right side tho, u cant downgrade them

[spare jetty]

workshop can be upgraded

[neat acorn]

Never mess with right side

[spare jetty]

office and reception room is a no unless u dont want to profitmaxxing

[neat acorn]

Bro how much rounds is there for stronghold

[formal shadow]

fourteen

[spare jetty]

14
15 with hidden core

[neat acorn]

How does my teammate have blaze

[spare jetty]

borrowing

[regal phoenix]

Silver2 says kjera all hp recovery 1.5% hp, n then later all hp recovery effect doubles

Does it mean silver1 s2 will regen (4.5%+1.5%)x2 max hp per second later? 12% max hp regen per second?

[neat acorn]

You can borrow?

[slate ridge]

where does it say all

[neat acorn]

My teammates has an entire e2 Wis

[wraith sentinel]

Pretty sure it is only about the buffs he grants by himself, not external ones.

[worldly carbon]

where in your math your 1 operator is directly affecting the skill of other operator...
it's only sa2 talent that doubles

[wraith sentinel]

When on field, all Kjerag Operators gain Frozen immunity, +60 DEF, and recover 1.5% of Max HP every second; after being deployed for 15 seconds, DEF and HP recovery effects double

[ivory terrace]

it becomes 3% after 15s

[sand aurora]

I have a question, when monst3r uses skill 3, does she still count as a ranged unit?

[obtuse obsidian]

they bought her from the shop mid game

[clever vine]

is mountain worth leveling up? like I got him from a six star selector purely cuz of his jp va and now i sorta regret choosing him

[obtuse obsidian]

no way now sa1 can freely dps last knight :clueful:

[obtuse obsidian]

he is like ok early game

fall off when enemies start having real defense

[wraith sentinel]

Use Courier.

[worldly carbon]

a classic
you can use him to kill fodder, it's what he's good at
just don't expect him to survive or kill any elite enemy
especially in later chapters

[indigo spoke]

which chapter we get CE?

[clever vine]

dah but he looks really cool and im thinking leveling him up

[neat acorn]

How do you get Wis and Haruka

[obtuse obsidian]

level him up then he will stay useful for a good while

[buoyant sigil]

Is ch.14 still the longest story in the game or has anything surpassed it yet

[clever vine]

e2 is it a must?

[wraith sentinel]

Mountain only needs E1 to be decent so super cheap as well. E2 is not worth it.

[buoyant sigil]

E2 is a never

[worldly carbon]

he uses s2 so he's alright at e1

[clever vine]

so just stop somewhere around e1 and lvl 50?

[gritty bluff]

where can i fight 5 elites quick to get hoederer mod

[obtuse obsidian]

you can add up to 4 operators from your own account
2 in tier 5 and 2 tier 6

they added haruka and wis tho the meta is probably not choosing one unless you have a direct alliiness plan for them

[neat acorn]

Oh

[obtuse obsidian]

like i added wis to make her laterano with 500 ammo only for the boss to walk to the other side and never comeback

[wraith sentinel]

Heart of Surging Flame (OF – Obsidian Festival) stages cost 0 Sanity.

[buoyant sigil]

Can stop at E1/40 for now with skill level 7, later if anything go to E1/80 but nothing beyond that

[worldly carbon]

try of-6

[clever vine]

okay thank you

[buoyant sigil]

I always thought it was heart Of surging Flame

[unkempt birch]

Is upgrading mommy snake worth it?

[buoyant sigil]

I… should have been smarter

[wraith sentinel]

[buoyant sigil]

Arguably the worst 6 star in the standard banner pool (not counting kernel)

[unkempt birch]

I was pulling for Reed alter ;-;

[buoyant sigil]

constantly wrestles with ebenholz and lee for the bottommost spot of the list

[worldly carbon]

nah if that's the case I might have only half a braincell cus I thought the same

[buoyant sigil]

Reed alter is not much better and definitely not worth any pulls at all

[chrome tiger]

*she is way more valuable than lee and eben but yeah still not good

[wraith sentinel]

(It also says Obsidian Festival in the splash art for the event.)

[chrome tiger]

ok now you are just fucking around what 😭

[unkempt birch]

Her outfit worth all my money

[worldly carbon]

ebenholz is more valuable than her but she's also garbage*

[obtuse obsidian]

actually hool does something now so naturally she cant be the worst

[buoyant sigil]

In 6 months we are getting a free selector with her in it

[unkempt birch]

I didn't get her sadly

[chrome tiger]

hool is actually useful in IS

[knotty basin]

should i level anyone else?

[odd sky]

ela

[chrome tiger]

somehow (she scales really well with relics)

[worldly carbon]

oh wait yeah
you can leak 1 enemy in IS6

[fossil mauve]

ELa very good character

[unkempt birch]

[buoyant sigil]

Niche IS usage… ahh yes
You kinda have a point but that only makes her a little above those two

[spare jetty]

e2 ela
thats it

[knotty basin]

hmmm but wang is coming

[obtuse obsidian]

thats a million time more leak allowed in a tormoil

[worldly carbon]

you're so right bestie

[spare jetty]

ela mines r useful

[obtuse obsidian]

she become above a lot of standard hot garbage by good amount with that anyway

[chrome tiger]

wrong!
0/1≠1000000

[fossil mauve]

when did we get Portatori deivelluti rerun? i think i miss a few day just saw it rerun today

[buoyant sigil]

depends on how you view it cause even in IS is she really that good I don’t see it

[chrome tiger]

Two days ago iirc

[spare jetty]

no idea but cn smh come up with hool IS mod out of sudden for me

[buoyant sigil]

i portatori di velluti no

[fossil mauve]

ok i did not miss. nice also thanks!

[obtuse obsidian]

you are allowed to leak 0.0000001 enemies and nobody tested that to proof me wrong 🤫

[worldly carbon]

just leak 1 enemy 1million times

[buoyant sigil]

Leak the avemuji dog of taxi and despair

[chrome tiger]

hool is secretly an IS7 op

cuz maylander and stuffs
trust me frfr

[hard sluice]

Hello friends, any suggestions on who might be worth raising or what to focus on next? https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/tidy-olive-lin-64ib

[obtuse obsidian]

heard its niche

did not get many chances to try it since i just raised hool and went back to old IS, playing IS3 where arts damage is negative now

[chrome tiger]

iirc her base kit is actually good by itself in IS6

[worldly carbon]

leaking an enemy and not losing a candle is very good for a caster voucher that I'd otherwise discard if I already got pram2

[chrome tiger]

not is5 cuz uh lamp

also yeah caster voucher kinda giga dead

[obtuse obsidian]

nara is a solid raise

otherwise finish some modules like sakiko

[buoyant sigil]

Just pram2

[sleek finch]

actually, now that hool got mod alpha
we know for sure that hool lost all hope since people cant say shit like "but what if mod alpha make her relevant for IS"

and dont even say mod delta

[buoyant sigil]

If you already have pram2 save hope for something better than ho’olheyak

[spare jetty]

ed5 cope for t3 egg

[chrome tiger]

There really aint anyone worth drafting in caster that isnt pram2 aside from logos

[spare jetty]

in is6

[obtuse obsidian]

mod alpha have real copium

unlike d*sk and spalter april fool modules

[hard sluice]

Thanks, I'll do her next then. Wasn't sure if any of my extra six stars were particularly strong. My mainn team is already pretty stacked.

[raw wigeon]

Hool is the key operator in a 30-win-streak draft for IS6 235 t3

[spare jetty]

swire alter IS mod is usable just in 1 stage

[sleek finch]

but hey, 1 is higher than 0!

[spare jetty]

-# ig u would know where is it

i forgot if it is more than 1

[chrome tiger]

Spalter IS mod is so chopped