help

[haughty holly]

Just do /materials in #bot-spam

[wide estuary]

I guess I can play limbus if I can’t contain my addiction to pulling

[cloud storm]

Its just the feeling of not needing a busted character to win 🥹🙏🏻

[haughty holly]

[pale tapir]

you can always borrow pudding if you want

[neat acorn]

High cortisol gameplay

[sick night]

Okay, thanks, damn, the positioning of my units is bad for filling the bars multiple times

[pseudo flume]

Just said it because mods are pretty strict about it

[inland swallow]

yeah... but usually non collab limited is 3 months apart so

[undone portal]

'happens within a months range of the usual date' seems close enough to being a safe assumption
events havent gone any further if you ignore dorothys vision

[pseudo flume]

cough cough

[dense veldt]

bet, what abt hoshialter? is mod 1 good enough?

[inland swallow]

just look at the pattern, guys

[young path]

schedules can always change or something

[mellow fossil]

when i take perma upgrades in IS that are gated behind d3, d6, d9 etc. are the upgrades only available at those levels and above?

[pseudo flume]

We don't talk about Dorothy

@dense veldt mod3

[robust thistle]

she wants mod3, mod1 is fine if youre poor

[inland swallow]

not changing much

[undone portal]

mod3 is quite nice, easier max tenacity hp requirement

[inland swallow]

esp for non collab limited banner

[wintry steppe]

Abuse roadblock and use suport unit as damager

[wide estuary]

Dang I gotta wait til August for wang? That’s cruel

[young path]

assuming it wont change is speculation in of itself 🤫

[robust thistle]

dude, we're telling you this because the channel rules exist
why keep challenging it because you want to say what month you think it'll drop

[haughty holly]

Reading is hard

[inland swallow]

tbh the speculation for non collab limited is almost if not all spot on, speculation that isnt certain is shoperator most of the time

[inner bramble]

can Miksaparato's ammo replinishment for other Laterano operators on S3 stack over their initial ammo?

[wintry steppe]

It's more cruel if it's released by now, considering ppl orundum goes burnt after silvalter banner

[rocky pilot]

Wang is wang
He doesn’t have a alter

Also no, I’ll just give some examples, og chen, skadi, specter, texas, pram are all in kernel while their alters are in standard or limited banners

The only character that both alter and original version can be obtained in the same banner is W, both are limited characters

[robust thistle]

still against the rule so

[undone portal]

unfortunately no, you need to wait for them to consume 4ammo first

[mellow fossil]

e.g., if i unlock shop refresh is it available below d6?

[pseudo flume]

I don't think it does just replenishes the bar

[wide estuary]

True true

[inner bramble]

dang this suck, looks like the timing is tight for funny Lemuen shenanigans

[cloud storm]

OHHHHHHHH I thought wang was already in da game and getting alter with Chen

[pale tapir]

do they know

[inland swallow]

i think if it is true, then no doubt but rule is rule so yeah

[pseudo flume]

He's in Arknights CN

[wintry steppe]

Wang alter before Wang being global releassd

[rocky pilot]

I just come back from a nap don’t ask me

[inland swallow]

unless u make wild speculation, i dont think thats wild tho hehe

[cloud storm]

Also how to beat 15-5 with my bricked acc

[pseudo flume]

The Alter is just Chen

[wintry steppe]

Wisadel it

[wide estuary]

Ngl I don’t think KyostinV can save this

[robust thistle]

no one's gonna stroke your back if you said the exact date and its true, people here already know most of the time
they just dont say it because its against the channel rules

[cloud storm]

I cant pussy my way into supoort unit..

[pseudo flume]

Kerf you handle that while I go skedaddle away

[rustic pecan]

then ur kinda cooked

[wintry steppe]

Never was supposed to be beginner friendly chapter

[timber finch]

chen chen chen chen probably is first

[worldly sky]

technically we have kalsit alter alter if u count monster

[cloud storm]

I thought they progressively get harder as you go on:p

[wide estuary]

Also mb yall I didn’t know asking for release dates was like a no no, I did not read the rules at all

[young path]

new chenknights niche

[rustic pecan]

it jumps once u make it past talulah

[inland swallow]

i only said the month it is just not a wild guess or baseless speculation but i understand, rule is rule

[rustic pecan]

u go from e1 lvl 60 to e2 lvl 30 just in chapter 10

[cloud storm]

Yeah ik what that is

[inland swallow]

thx for the reminder hehe also sorry

[undone portal]

do you want your workshop enantiomer recipe or not

[timber finch]

played enough to learn this scale isnt factual
and theres always that dude to bring a elite 0 video most likely

[rustic pecan]

was I off then?

[rustic pecan]

then again, that person is really techy for the most part

[neat acorn]

Recommend for new player maybe

[undone portal]

the stage level rec is a suggestion at best

[timber finch]

even then it depend of the units a lot more too, and general stategy

[undone portal]

usually just an active deterrent for newer players from trying stages they absolutely could clear

[neat acorn]

Just a skill

[sick night]

Okay, I modified their positions so ascalon facing up hits one tower, lappland alter on the bottom hits another and pramanix hits two at once and killed it easily, thanks guys

[stoic quartz]

the modules guide only covers 6*, there are 5 or 4 stars modules that are worth?

[wide estuary]

Should I invest in tragodia or just focus on upgrading silverash alter and pram alter

[timber finch]

pram e2 first, then sash prob, then trag

[undone portal]

4stars: ethan/purestream/jaye. no really thats it unless you like the others
5stars: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ogb76FF6offyyTW2H3QpxFxs5P7D1cLuDpdTiwFu41U/edit?usp=drivesdk give this doc a read

[timber finch]

trag will want e2 82 mod3 or 88 mod2 at some point tho for boss breakpoint in 1 cat

[wide estuary]

I’m poor man… I guess I’ll go back to mountain and piggyback

[timber finch]

thats why i said last, e1 is fine for most common things, sash s3 has more importance
pram e2 just for dps rly

[rustic pecan]

how far do i need to promote warfarin for the sp boost?

[inland swallow]

isokay, most new players would ask when is the banner, i would if i didnt know hehe, but we def can see the pattern between each non collab limited is 3 months apart so all good

[neat acorn]

Why is the most challanging part of SN navigating the ui

[timber finch]

get a good base then

[wide estuary]

Uhhhh

[undone portal]

checks for kills within range
1sp at e1, 2 at e2, 4 with mod if the death is an elite/boss

[rocky pilot]

[wide estuary]

listen I didn’t permanently brick my base, someone else did

[timber finch]

#r-i-i-c im too stupid for it

[cloud storm]

Uhhhhhhhhhh what

[neat acorn]

My base was bricked the moment I upgraded the right side

[timber finch]

you can still get 60k lmd and 30k exp with a bad 252 iirc

[undone portal]

rephasic enantiomers, tier5 material
clearing 15-9 is required to be able to process them in your workshop

[cloud storm]

How does a lad brick base if I may ask... sint it all the same

[timber finch]

leveling all right side make 252 not max but still better then 243

[neat acorn]

Most of the time they are exaggerating

[inland swallow]

the moment u upgrade office 🥀 tbf they should let us downgrade it

[rustic pecan]

ah bugger then. ill have to do that for is then 😭

[cloud storm]

Wtf do these numbers mean yo- im newgen and suck ass, put it into beavis and butthead terms pls

[neat acorn]

Factories trade post and something

[undone portal]

right side cant be downgraded after youve upgraded
the best base setups (252 variants) intentionally allocate power away from reception/office to have more available for tp/factories

i think you see where this is going

[rustic pecan]

2 is trade post, 5 is factories, 2 is power plants

[timber finch]

xyz
x trading post
y factory
z power plant

[rustic pecan]

thats the layout. People dont like maxing right side because YOU CANT DOWNGRADE

[wide estuary]

I thought Silverash alter S2 was the better option

[rustic pecan]

as such u cant get the sweet sweet benefits of a 252 base

[cloud storm]

Uhhh is there a max to what you can upgrade or smth? 😭😭

[timber finch]

s2 s3 are both good, i use s3 more rn but i like s2 in is

[rustic pecan]

lvl 3 for all rooms

[undone portal]

well, you can. just not as strongly. max right 252 is still better than alternatives

[neat acorn]

Most new players upgrade the right side

[rustic pecan]

lowkey i just read a guide

[severe crypt]

That’s cuz they aren’t told otherwise by the game

[haughty holly]

Blame the pinboard mission

[cloud storm]

No, I meant like, why feel the need to downgrade in the first place? If you can level everything up to max eventually, then why is leveling the right such a bad idea

[timber finch]

btw dont mod or mastery him, do for the other 2 at some point tho
he has no mod so thats out of it anyways

[haughty holly]

Because it fucks ur TP and factory level

[neat acorn]

Useless

[inland swallow]

including me 🥀 i didnt know i shouldnt before i see the guide here, alrd up office to lv2

[haughty holly]

Ur dorms will also be shot

[inland swallow]

dorms still can be downgraded

[undone portal]

the prospect of having texas usually blinds newbies from checking to see if theyre about to make an irreversible decision
i would know, i was there once

[coarse notch]

because you cant level everything to max

[severe crypt]

Funny thing is, getting Texas actually doesn’t require max right

[haughty holly]

Yeah but imagine u didn't upgrade right
U could have higher dorms level no?

[cloud storm]

Uhhh did I brick mine

[neat acorn]

My entire right side is maxed

[haughty holly]

Just level 2 for office and reception if I recall

[timber finch]

nit even office
even the game doesnt care of office

[cloud storm]

Why not😭

[neat acorn]

Energy

[severe crypt]

Cuz of a certain thing called the power plant

[unborn fulcrum]

genuinely how does mont3r's chain healing work
bc i be putting the reconstructing thingy right next to ela and mon3tr is js healing the drone and herself

[halcyon remnant]

Who should I e2 next?

[wide estuary]

Why the hell does the game not allow you to downgrade the right side

[cloud storm]

What, does it basically shut down everything or smth... I didnt read the explanation when they showed me the base

[neat acorn]

Because yes

[pseudo loom]

How do i get durable stacks? I see someone having 100 i wonder how

[timber finch]

cant go over max power

[neat acorn]

Each lvl takes energy and you have a certain amount of energy

[undone portal]

module mlynar next
then e2 ray

[inland swallow]

hmm i thought it'd be factory lv3 coz even with 252, i think ur dorm should be like lv2 or less, for me, i only up dorm to lv3 for mission, then downgraded it

[undone portal]

also get to lemuen/hoshialt mods soon

[opaque remnant]

ray works, but i'd prio modding lem mlynar and hoshi2

[haughty holly]

If u read her kit the reconstruction gives nearby unit the buff without having to be healed

[cloud storm]

So..what do I want to downgrade.. im still highkey lost

[timber finch]

can exu2 steal aspd of summons or roadblocks?

[undone portal]

prioritizes lowest hp
if no one in bounce range is hurt, go to most recently deployed

sounds like you deployed mon3tr after ela so the bounce after reconstruct sees mon3tr first

[haughty holly]

So as long as they're within the square range of reconstruction they get healed

[neat acorn]

You basically can’t downgrade the right side anymore

[fallow sonnet]

which skill do I upgrade for mlynar

[wise totem]

So i was curious about what would be a good Contorl Center setup in the Base? Currently I got Wis+Blaze Alt with the three alters (Kroos, Hibiscurs and Lava) to keep their morale from dropping since i'm too lazy to change them but some ops got interesting skills

[neat acorn]

Just follow the guide in #r-i-i-c

[cloud storm]

3 I thinks

[neat acorn]

180k is 300 pulls ?

[undone portal]

good cc teams include:

• amiya/mon3tr/wis'adel/civ,eterna + one of the a1 alters
• mlynar/flametail/viviana + 2 'smile' morale boosters
• dusk/ling/chongyue/saileach + whoever
• hit gothic rock band ave mujica

[wise totem]

ooh

[undone portal]

check #r-i-i-c pins for more details

[cloud storm]

I have the second corner of mlynar s3 hehehehe idk wtf theyre called

[wise totem]

i assume they don't got the "infinite" morale up though, rite?

[timber finch]

...masteries?

[neat acorn]

Tbh I didn’t even see your message but ye the guide helps with that too

[cloud storm]

Uhhh I guess... whatever is in the training thingy yes

[undone portal]

no, youll have to cycle these
you should have enough dorm slots to do this

[wise totem]

still thanks

[timber finch]

please dont flex half baked characters
atleast m3 them

[wise totem]

its fine just a pet peeve cuz i log in once most days

[cloud storm]

HOW IS THAT HALF BAKED 💔💔💔💔

[proper robin]

ulpi mod level 1 or 3?

[haughty holly]

3

[timber finch]

1, 3 for afk support or not leveling 50units

[neat acorn]

Because that’s m2

[proper robin]

kk ty

[timber finch]

m1 is a start
m2 is just bad sight
m3 is the max

[neat acorn]

What lvl is your mod

[cloud storm]

Im ngl I dont even have mod because im harcore stuck 9-12

[undone portal]

its hard to make m2 sound like an achievement, is all
it is an improvement

[shadow bay]

just stick to either mod1 or modless tbh

[timber finch]

just throw rocks at people
genuinely btw, chokepoints and pillars are the big deal

[neat acorn]

Don’t you get his mod from a side story or am I remembering it wrong

Probably remembering it wrong

[robust thistle]

thats just the unlock mission

[neat acorn]

Ye the unlock mission

[wise totem]

gals can i get good 3 ⭐ , 4⭐, and 5⭐E2 reccomendations for IS? I haven't done a lot there cuz im still confused overall but i feel like i use lower rarities more often there

[undone portal]

mlynar mod asks 11-15

[robust thistle]

#is-station pins

[wise totem]

do i copypaste there?

[neat acorn]

Oh ye

[robust thistle]

you go there and you check the pins

[pale tapir]

no you read the pins and click on the resource linked in there

[wise totem]

ok thankes1!!1!!1

[hidden wolf]

Is silverash worth modding

[undone portal]

-# craziest mod req is still miksaparato mod x youre supposed to be newbie accessible why are you asking 14-5

[hidden wolf]

And surtr

[undone portal]

if you use him, quite. its a good mod, lv3

[timber finch]

mod2
mod3 if rich rich and love

[obtuse berry]

What module should da sheep use 🤔

[pale tapir]

sheep damage edition or sheep undamage edition
I thought u were asking what level

[obtuse berry]

Only sheep damage got 2 modules iirc

[neat acorn]

I haven’t taken sash out of my team and I still, don’t have his mod

[undone portal]

sheep undamage only has one mod rn, no?
sheep damage wants x

[neat acorn]

Sash is the best meat shield

In the beginning

[cloud storm]

Nvm guys im not stuck on 9-12, it seems to be I just didnt have Mlynar as the time

#Carry

[undone portal]

average wednesday for mlynar nearl

[opaque remnant]

get him to M3

[cloud storm]

Im trying im trying..

[neat acorn]

I hate civilians

[undone portal]

i love civilians <- post ch16

[obtuse berry]

Siracuso civilians are chad tho

[timber finch]

i dream of getting to ch16 to not have useless civilians liability

[neat acorn]

The civilians in ch16 are goated tho

[undone portal]

laterano civilians

[obtuse berry]

The unblockable dud in c16 with invinsibility and tons of HP . Still miners are chad

[neat acorn]

I forgot who that is

[inland swallow]

miners are willingly die for us

[undone portal]

yurodstvo?

[pale tapir]

is yurod unblockable I can't remember

[neat acorn]

Ye

[pale tapir]

oh interesting
I always used ines so ig I never noticed

[neat acorn]

I always killed him before he came close

[wise totem]

just to make sure in case im being slow, i went to the IS Central in the pins of #is-station and in the low rarity recommendations it says they perform well in IS6, does this also applies in other IS?

[neat acorn]

H16-4 took me a while because I tried frame copying a guide for hours then did it first try when I decided not to copy

[formal shadow]

some do, some don't. 4* aren't free recruit in IS before IS5

[wise totem]

oooh i see i guess i'll check old guides as well

[neat acorn]

What does rosmontis even do

[formal shadow]

flinger things

[undone portal]

in gen content, basically nothing
in is, lots of phys/arts damage + free debuffer summons whenever you deploy a sniper/caster

[wise totem]

i love the concept of a sniper deploying defenders a shame they didn't do more

[formal shadow]

they do more with IS mod

[pale tapir]

be cute
provide ground presence for flinger strat in IS5
spawn bricks with casters in IS
be perfect
do phys and arts dmg in IS
be cuter

[coarse notch]

live your fantasies out with the IS mod where you can spend 10 minutes on a stage stalling out a rando for plans

[wise totem]

my main reason to play IS actually though i barely understand anything there

though she can be useful when there's global enemies on a map and they target by latest deployed op but that's overly specific

[worldly fern]

its worth pulling for leizi alter/hoederer??

[coarse notch]

no

[undone portal]

leizialt arguably, but how are you doing that right now

[worldly fern]

they just announced the upcoming banner leizi alt/hoederer

[coarse notch]

next standard rotating has them and people still havent learned to never pull on that banner

[undone portal]

oh, thats the next standard banner
nice reroll target for newbies but, no

[neat acorn]

Check game news

[undone portal]

no amount of good rateups makes standard actually worth pulling for any account older than like, a month

[opaque remnant]

still got the orienteering running at the same time

[neat acorn]

I want tragodia but these picks are not it

[undone portal]

right, newbies still get to reroll for tragodia
once orienteering ends i suppose

happy to have dropped 40pulls for blaze

[static glade]

Is alt Leizi good

[wise totem]

Who should I M3? I feel like I'm only upgrading DPS chars

And how people M3 a lot of chars my resources are two orirocks

[robust thistle]

how do we know who already have masteries

[undone portal]

yes
no one is 'worth pulling standard for' good

[opaque remnant]

you're missing... so many mods, well exu2 S2M3

then hoshi2 S3M3

[shadow bay]

a true helper would know masteries even with a slight of image real

[robust thistle]

I sure hope theyre not typing all their masteries manually

[neat acorn]

[static glade]

Do you have krooster

[wise totem]

Sorry, Exia 3rd, Saria 1st/2nd, Surtr 3rd, Chalter 3rd, Ebenholz 2nd/3rd=Same for Eyja, Goldenglow, ExiaAlter and YatoAlter, Nightingale, Skalter and Mudrock 2nd, Ascalon 1st

[robust thistle]

what did I just say

go make a krooster and import your account

[opaque remnant]

it'd be beneficial if you just made a krooster account instead, you can find it in pins

[grim forum]

is kroos alter worth building even after building exusiai

[opaque remnant]

you built base exu?

[wise totem]

Sometimes I avoid mods because I compulsively get E2 to my ops and choose to do that instead, should change my strategy tbh

[grim forum]

uhh yeah I guess

not by much though just e1 30

[wise totem]

YesS

[pale tapir]

how "built" is exia
oh just don't level her more

[opaque remnant]

not the unit

[shadow bay]

u can skip her until u need her maybe like in is3 or something

[torpid walrus]

3 best picks

[wise totem]

Wait what is a krooster

[grim forum]

e1 30 skill 5 I think

[neat acorn]

Son

[static glade]

Acc check website + more stuff

[shadow bay]

https://krooster.com/u/NhamNham

[opaque remnant]

you already bought it?

[pale tapir]

krooster will have more utility but you can use exia for the time being just don't invest further
assuming you're still new

[robust thistle]

is not buying that an option

[torpid walrus]

@opaque remnant no

[opaque remnant]

preferably don't buy it

[neat acorn]

[torpid walrus]

@opaque remnant why

[robust thistle]

kernel isnt worth

youre paying for a 3+ year old operator

[pale tapir]

kernel just had old washed ops like half of which are recruitable anyway
the useful ones are pretty niche

[robust thistle]

basically the ops that are in the 'old and decrepit' pool

[neat acorn]

Can’t wait for someday someone ask for their krooster then they just send a ss of kroosalt

[winter carbon]

Looking to buy the 6* selector but dunno which op to get. I'm thinking probably Ulpianus or Mon3tr?

https://www.krooster.com/u/tater

[civic drum]

Is reed alter worth it to buy?

[robust thistle]

no

[vital kelp]

guys how do i share my roster here i think im over the file limit

[neat acorn]

[pale tapir]

file limit?

[neat acorn]

File limit is 20mb

[opaque remnant]

there's a file limit?

[neat acorn]

Around there

[static glade]

File limit for none nitro dudes

[pale tapir]

oh they're rping nvm

[neat acorn]

Larpknights

[sharp crest]

How much I should save up for the next limited?

[young path]

as much as you can

[lament loom]

What is build prio for SA2? S2M3 and S3M3?

[neat acorn]

Like 300

[sharp crest]

300k orundum?

[neat acorn]

Pulls if possible but as he said as much as you can

[coarse notch]

theres no one to pull between now and wang so as much as you can
150+ pulls minimum

[sharp crest]

Rn I have 19k so rip ig

[neat acorn]

I find myself using s3 more but I have s2m3 because of the YouTube propaganda

[lament loom]

U have enough time I am pretty sure

[hexed adder]

Keep saving, more better. Also for future banners

[sharp crest]

It's 3 months right?

[lament loom]

slash slash

[grim forum]

300 pulls is 54k orundum that's so many

[broken flame]

S3M3 then S2M3 if you use it a lot

[lament loom]

Can't predict, just rough estimate..

[sharp crest]

180k

[neat acorn]

180k

[undone portal]

s3m3 is fine enough. its what he uses in real highend content (im an is enjoyer but im not counting whatever the fuck is going on in is6)
s2 mastery gains are giga ass

[vital kelp]

rough estimate would be 2 month and 3 weeks no since its been a while

[grim forum]

wait I miscounted lol

[lament loom]

Cheers

[wise totem]

i made the krooster!111!! https://www.krooster.com/u/kurisutian what do I do with masteries now

[neat acorn]

90k is 150

[vital kelp]

no irrelevant image attachment

[undone portal]

jumpscare

[grim forum]

It's like 600 per pull right so yea ig 180k

1000 originite primes

[sharp crest]

That's achievable for 19k rn?

[vital kelp]

yea

[neat acorn]

Wth s2m3 larp

[wise totem]

ok

[neat acorn]

If you are new very possible

[broken flame]

even if you're not new it's possible

[undone portal]

mlynar/sakiko mods Now !!
then finish tragodia/hoshialt/haruka/mon3tr

[sharp crest]

A week is around 2k orundum if a do everything?

[neat acorn]

Sakiko mod first

[coarse notch]

3k

[grim forum]

What is the next limited anyway, is it worth saving up that much

[neat acorn]

Wang and Chen alt

[coarse notch]

300 is unnecessary, 150+ gives you a very good chance at them

[vital kelp]

mlynar mod
sakiko mod3
hoshi2 mod1
trag breakpoint
haruka mod1
ela mod

Mon3tr s2m3/s3m3 optional
rosmontis and archetto IS mod if u play IS

[wise totem]

wait with those i focus on S2 onwards right

[neat acorn]

300 is if thing go bad bad

[grim forum]

have no clue who Wang and Chen is

are they like super op like idk pramanix or or exu alter or something

[sharp crest]

3000 x 4 x 3
Not sure if that 90k

[hexed adder]

only from daily,weekly and anni, can get more from other stuff

[unreal surge]

Wait wrong channel

[broken flame]

The next limited banner is the best banner in the game so far. And the most braindead op Wang is basically arts Wisadel with global range

[vital kelp]

600 x 150 = 90000

[undone portal]

trag/haru s2
hoshi s3
mon3tr is up to you depending on if you find yourself using s2 or s3 more. genuine m6 angle

[grim forum]

Ok that's very reassuring though I've never tried wisadel

[sharp crest]

Nah I'm talking about saving up until next limited

[neat acorn]

Doesn’t Wis summons do arts already

[coarse notch]

factoring in dailies/weeklies/monthlies you get 573 orundum/day for 51k/86 pulls
then you still have anni first clears, op, and yellow cert pulls

[grim forum]

I'll start buying the monthly pass ig lol

[neat acorn]

You don’t even have to buy it

[coarse notch]

f2p income is around 800 pulls a year

comes out to around 200 pulls per limited banner timeframe

[sharp crest]

If do absolutely everything without missed a single day?

[vital kelp]

We get 5 pulls per week from dailies (100 orundum per day), weeklies (500 orundum per week), and annihilation (1800 orundum per week). We also get one pull from monthly login calendar and three pulls from monthly green cert shop. This totals to 24 pulls per month, or 144 pulls in 6 months
When limited events have an orundum lotto, data has shown an average of 14 pulls over the full event. Limited events are every three months, so that's around 28 pulls from two of those
Event shops each have 3 pulls in them. In the next 6 months, for example, we have eight difference events that'll have 3 pulls each, so that's 24 pulls
The limited banner itself has 24 free pulls
We get 35 gold certs per month on average from recruitment + the login calendar. Over 6 months, this is 210 certs. The other pulls you're doing on the banner easily get you to 258 certs for a 38 pull buyout
Originite from events. In the next 6 months, we get around 180 originite from first clearing event stages. This is about 54 pulls.
If you total up these pull sources, it's over 300 pulls in 6 months

[sick night]

Thank you to the help user who told me to put goldenglow s2 blocked into a corner by roadblocks to free my operators from stun without spreading the cages in H14-4, I finally managed to beat it

[grim forum]

yes but there's no such thing as too little orundum

though how long until the next limited anyway?

[hexed adder]

Green certs, event shop, and gold certs. If counting other stuff more

[lament loom]

Is Pepe Limited op? Is it possible to still obtain her?

[coarse notch]

limiteds are every 3 months

[vital kelp]

yes and as offrate/spark in summer banners

[neat acorn]

Speculations are speculations

[grim forum]

and how long has it been since the previouslimited

[wise totem]

talking abt IS are my currently leveled up low stars good or do i need more

[coarse notch]

a week

[lament loom]

Cheers. 200 or 300 spark?

[sharp crest]

Ooh alright, so I just have to keep playing and don't pull anyone that's not limited

[lament loom]

Damn, for Pepe... ah well

[coarse notch]

theres not really anyone to pull for in the next 6 months besides the two limited banners so

[lament loom]

Wasnt there rumour that one of the limited ops will reduce to 200?

[vital kelp]

raise click and purestream for IS

u might also want indigo, deepcolor, sussoros

also raise ur base slaves

[coarse notch]

gavialter will next year

[vital kelp]

how to save: play and not pull shit banners

[sharp crest]

How about pulling for the guarantee 5 star?

[neat acorn]

There’s another way to earn more spend to get more sanity to get more (not recommended)

[coarse notch]

never, thats a bait

[lament loom]

Welp, at least I can think about it lol

[coarse notch]

its quite easy, do everything you need to do every day and do not spend a single pull until wang

[lament loom]

I fell for it as beginner. Realized how much pulls I wasted.

[wise totem]

ok thanks which one are bases slaves? like proviso?

[sharp crest]

Is wang coming in 3 months or more?

[vital kelp]

check /baseslave in #bot-spam, u have several unbuilt i see

[coarse notch]

around 3 months

[vernal drift]

was wondering if i have any major improvements to my account or something i should be working towards https://krooster.com/u/silent

[shadow bay]

more or less yeh

limited tend to stick with the schedules

[wise totem]

i'll check

[sharp crest]

Alright I can save up a full spark in the next 3 months

[neat acorn]

Wang is this century ye

[vital kelp]

sakiko mod3
ulpian mastery

other than that looks stacked

[shadow bay]

[vital kelp]

who are you sparking bruh

i mean theres 400 pulls farmable by previous event but its ass value to spark someone

[sharp crest]

Wang isn't a hot girl this is bad

[chrome epoch]

he can be if yyou try hard enough

[vernal drift]

cool i literally just got done with all my base slaves as well so i'm pretty happy

[vital kelp]

chen alter alter is fire tho

[broken flame]

He's a depressed man with a fat tail. Must pull fr

[grim forum]

is using originite for sanity that bad

like there's so much content I wanna do that I won't be able to without refilling sanity

[sharp crest]

Always assume worst case scenario man

[coarse notch]

very bad

[robust thistle]

you can just wait and touch grass like a normal person

[chrome epoch]

so much content you can do with time. there's no rush

[vital kelp]

i always do, i saved up 450 pull for sakiko

[broken flame]

you can play IS instead while waiting for sanity to refill if you really wanna play. gives you mats as well

[vital kelp]

go play intergrated strategy or something

[robust thistle]

its not like the content is getting anywhere

[grim forum]

actually it looks like I need to be quick if I want to have enough pulls for next limited which apparently is best so I better not miss out on that

[undone portal]

-# 'plan for the worst, hope for the best' type shit

[chrome epoch]

you have 3-4 months youre absoutely fine

if youre a new player originite prime wil rain down on you like water if you just..normally progress the game

[vernal drift]

how big of a increase is sakiko mod3?

[grim forum]

I'm at 7k orundum and 89 originite which isn't that much I think

[neat acorn]

Won’t get that far in IS but ye go do IS

[broken flame]

you have plenty of time

[robust thistle]

we did the math, we know the math, youre fine

[vital kelp]

pretty big

[undone portal]

damn near doubles her dps against anything with more than like, 500def/40res

[neat acorn]

We are the math

[robust thistle]

as long as you play regularly and dont slack off youre gonna get at least 150 by the time wang gets here

[chrome epoch]

5day old player is forced to play IS. found shot 38 times by talismans

[vital kelp]

i recommend sakiko mod3 not because i simp sakiko but because sakiko mod3 is good

[sharp crest]

How unlucky is no wang after 150 pulls?

[vernal drift]

??? what the hell i would of done it a long as time ago

[robust thistle]

normal

[formal shadow]

moderately unlucky

[grim forum]

i don't know if I can do annihilation though which plays a big part

last time I tried it I didn't get far at all and got 0 basically but I'll try again soon

[vernal drift]

na i didnt doubt you i did it as soon as you said but was just curious

[robust thistle]

we have countless youtube guides

[neat acorn]

Wait is soft pity 50 or 60

[undone portal]

a little unlucky, but too realistic to be an ignorable possibility

[grim forum]

I was more stat checked than anything

[vital kelp]

borrow wisadel

[robust thistle]

then raise your ops

[sharp crest]

It is realistic, I remember sparked on swimsuit hanako's banner

[grim forum]

I did since last time I tried it so we'll see after this

[undone portal]

20.45%, in other words

[torpid walrus]

Top 3 picks

[neat acorn]

Me

[robust thistle]

mlynar if you wanna buy it

[sharp crest]

79% is too low

[vital kelp]

mon3tr ascalon mlynar

[broken flame]

Ngl you can borrow Pram2 for most of them and fill with low rarities. There's a whole yt account that does Pram2 solo 6* clears for all annis

[robust thistle]

if you have leizialt you can consider not buying it

[coarse notch]

if you enter the banner with 150 pulls you will achieve 200 pulls by the end of it

[torpid walrus]

@robust thistle nah

[robust thistle]

why do you ask if you dont even wanna buy it

[torpid walrus]

I did buy it@robust thistle

[opaque remnant]

mlynar, asc, mon3? I think

[sharp crest]

Now this is hope 🙏

[robust thistle]

no need to mention everytime, then get mlynar

[chrome epoch]

mlynar

[torpid walrus]

I am thinking monster or asc

[undone portal]

mlynar/mon3tr/ascalon are the big picks here. get horse uncle

[vital kelp]

did u know if u went in with 300 pulls theres still chances u wont hit wang and have to claim him after 300 pulls

[robust thistle]

sure bothr work, mlynar have more value objectively

[torpid walrus]

Monster or asc?

[broken flame]

Just cert Ascalon in a few months

[robust thistle]

I wouldnt pick either

[limpid yarrow]

stronghold going on rn tho

[sharp crest]

Is it lower chance than got hit by lightning, if yes then I don't need to worry

[limpid yarrow]

you want asca for stronghold

[vital kelp]

no, since chances of u being hit by lightning is a lot lower

[undone portal]

i wouldnt spend $30
pick mon3tr and prep certs for ascalon in a few months i guess

mango stop being strongholdpilled for a moment :mad:

[torpid walrus]

@broken flame which certs can you buy him with

[robust thistle]

gold

[opaque remnant]

you can just reply to the person directly next time

[robust thistle]

and ascalon is a woman

[shadow bay]

@opaque remnant nope tagging more cooler apparently

[robust thistle]

and yes, this isnt twitter, no need to tag people

[broken flame]

180 gold certs. She should be added in a few months if you can wait.

[vital kelp]

@robust thistle but i want to

[lament loom]

Any feedback on my acc, am I missing any important skill masteries / modules on any operators I have?

https://www.krooster.com/u/love_red_panda

[sharp crest]

It's 1% chance, I'm not that unlucky

[undone portal]

:clueless:

[shadow bay]

glad s1m3 only

[undone portal]

blame ccb3 probably

[lament loom]

Oh yeah I forgot that. Glad s3m3 missing oops

[haughty holly]

@lament loom mod3 ulpi when

[robust thistle]

lemuen mod2
trag mod2
gnosis IS mod
thats it

[shadow bay]

ascalon mostly use s2m3... but ig if ur not bothering with said skill and just afk enjoyer u do u

[undone portal]

wait gladiia no mod y nvm

[vital kelp]

@lament loom trag not at breakpoint, need mod2

what the flip is this gg mastery

ascalon no s2m3 before s1m3 is crazy

proviso above level 1 is a crime

finish ur sa mastery

[lament loom]

That GG mastery was when I was broke on mats, then found Logos while I was a midgame player lmao

[hushed niche]

Is it worth rock farming for extra orundum in base?

[vital kelp]

why did u mod every other band member but nyamu im :realmad:

[undone portal]

what are they supposed to do, delevel their proviso

[shadow bay]

people usually go s2>s3>>>s1

[robust thistle]

10 pull is 1200 rocks and 960k LMD
you decide if its worth

[lament loom]

Oh shoot, I'll keep that in mind

[lament loom]

sorry :(

[sharp crest]

Is it possible for endfield collab with arknight or vice versa?

[robust thistle]

they already did wdym

[lament loom]

Yah

[undone portal]

technically happening right now if you count web events

[shadow bay]

they what???

[undone portal]

theres even an ingame profile icon to be earned

[shadow bay]

ohhh web event ... thats on me im under the radar nowadays

[vernal drift]

no? endfield is the future i think.

[fresh anvil]

check profiles real quick

[inland osprey]

where else we could get data supplement stick ?

[robust thistle]

SSS

[undone portal]

play stationary security service
youll never run out of them again

[lament loom]

I was AFK enjoyer back then lmao

[silver smelt]

meh who cares they can do whatever they want

[vernal drift]

is their a certain IS you should start off with or just go from the first release and move up?

[inland osprey]

i reach the cap

[vernal drift]

yeah thats fair

[robust thistle]

event shop, IS battlepass

[undone portal]

then i ask what youre doing with your modules to run out of sticks

[vital kelp]

is5 and is4 is the best rated one i think

[undone portal]

is2 is the simplest, is5 is the easiest

[shadow bay]

u can do whatever

is2 can be good to learn stuff
is5 being cheezable due to how relic and strategy plays out u can breeze it to collect rewards asap

and theres is6 who actively updating atm, and is4 which is also good one

[broken flame]

and there's IS3

[inland osprey]

how many in total we get from a single is rewards?

[shadow bay]

yep... never missed one is there fr

[celest vortex]

guys i forgot i had arknights and now i dont know how to progress the gam i need help

[vital kelp]

who everyone hates

[robust thistle]

one mod3

[undone portal]

and then you avoid is3 like the plague until you know what youre doing

[lament loom]

Any IS is fine.

Is2 is the stepping stone, introduction to roguelite mechanics.

Is5 is pretty fun and abusable by newbies and is6 is unique mechanics with operator levelling and relics.

[vernal drift]

huh alright then i guess i will work on those first then

[inland osprey]

damn only 1 , and sss reset for a long ass time

[vital kelp]

current one is is6, dont count wrong

[vernal drift]

yeah phantom is IS2

[lament loom]

Is4 is just mob rush in general so u can figure out a counterplay to that. Just avoid EM Manmade Carnival lmao

[broken flame]

Play IS3 it's fun, trust

[undone portal]

is3 is fun!
-# at d18

[coarse notch]

mfw d16 is easier than d15

[vital kelp]

well is5 d9 is easier than d8

[young path]

what makes is3 so bad? never touched is so i dont have a clue

[robust thistle]

try it

[coarse notch]

its not really that bad especially with modern ops
d18 is another story but still

[undone portal]

i hope you enjoy nervous impairment

[broken flame]

Seaborns, the floor is lava, screaming running flowers, spiky balls, nervous impairment in-game and irl

[shadow bay]

tentacles?

[coarse notch]

corrosion is more prevalent in the seaborn IS than NI for some reason

[shadow bay]

oh do u wanna see a mother non effortlessly throwing her babies on you?

[undone portal]

pov: metastatic aberration just rendered your carry useless going into floor2

[young path]

just borrow eyjaberry from what im seeing

[undone portal]

eyjaberry opener is like. nonfunctional

[shadow bay]

good luck starting with eyjaberry

thats 7 hope already sinked in my good sir

[broken flame]

if you're just playing it to farm mats, it's fine. I used to do it with Texalt carry before IS4 release

[shadow bay]

its even rng if u can start with 7 or 8 hope lol

[young path]

forgot about the hope stuff, i think im good with staying away from is

[coarse notch]

yall scared away a future IS tournament player smh

[undone portal]

is has a ton of free rewards tho. worth learning eventually
its even pretty fun once you start being good at it

[shadow bay]

and nope dont say people squad dont deal with 7 hope bs

[coarse notch]

its the only thing some people play too
think ive logged 4-5x more hours in IS than in the rest of the game

[undone wren]

Suggestion?

[lament loom]

Is this considering those with or without module?

[undone portal]

same icl. is keeps ak a game instead of a chore

[shadow bay]

just in general

s2 just comfy of a skill with nice cycle
s3 more on big crowd control

and s1... well for afk pulls

[undone portal]

mods/masteries dont really interact much for gladiia

[lament loom]

Tyty

[undone portal]

for general use i would suggest s3m3 x3

[shadow bay]

and on paper u mostly m3 gladiaa skills for force breakthrough.... if u just using gladia as ulpi nurse, u can just dip mod2 and call it a day lol

[undone portal]

gladiia doesnt really have the numbers to lanehold so s3s crowdcontrol is nice for letting other ops do the work

[lament loom]

Makes sense to m3 all Gladiia skills then

[shadow bay]

i just personally hate s3 not casting until one enemy is in her range.... but the control is nice ig

[undone portal]

not really wait on the m3 until you see a clear that actually needs it

[nimble kite]

Last S1 Gladiia usage is CCB3 620 Risk btw.

[shadow bay]

i have her m9 yeh, but ofc not recommend... she is just a puller after all

[hidden nacelle]

is saki highest single target dps

besides wangus

[lament loom]

Better puller than the rest of the pullers just by purely being 6* with +1 pull strength?

[lament loom]

Wuhhhh

[undone portal]

exualt wins at low def, but generally yes

[slate ridge]

depends

[shadow bay]

w8 im not fully familiar with the pull strength per rarity but most likely its like weedy case vs pushers

[lament loom]

What server has dpsbot in it

[undone portal]

try dragongjys server, its in his yt channel description iirc

[lament loom]

Yeah that's about it.

[slate ridge]

S1 she loses to Almond in speed
S2 she loses to Cliffheart in certain cycles
S3 uh that

to be better than Rope or Almond in general would want modY which #help is against im sure

[lament loom]

Cheers

[hidden nacelle]

almond wouldn't make the golden age return again

[undone portal]

for hookmaster usecases, gladiias kinda exactly like weedy in having access to +1 higher force and generally better combat stats

[slate ridge]

i always prefer S1 > S3 > S2 in terms of mastery tho
not many people can think what S3 is used for and when its available its less application than S1
if you use her as 8s AoE bind every 35s its ok ig if you can handle the aftermath pull if said enemy somehow doesnt die

then again her skill changes depending on what map or strat you use so nothing is concrete

[robust thistle]

s1 is more 'universal' in a sense

its just a standard pull with charges

[vital kelp]

its just power strike with auto charge

[humble arrow]

it does work decently as vaguard as it has the fastest startup too

[slim tusk]

it's always funny when people cope glad s2 for lanehold
s3 doesn't feel as good without spalter

[paper needle]

do i get LMD and Exp from RA?

[nimble kite]

IS gives more

[slim tusk]

how many is gives tho

[proven kelp]

I prefer S2 for Lane holding
The wider range feels better for dealing with enemies, especially with longer duration

[paper needle]

any IS?

[nimble kite]

50k LMD per some cap, and x20 by 2000 EXP packs.

[paper needle]

which one easier?

[slim tusk]

feels like you get more by grinding uh glowstick

[nimble kite]

Yeah. Just look into Battlepass rewards.

[onyx mango]

Do we actually have the total reward from is?

Does anyone have the data

[paper needle]

i need lotta exp for my base slave

aswell with base mats

[nimble kite]

Phantom IS2

[proven swan]

yu to m3 is s2 n s3?

[slim tusk]

just s2,s3 if you like global slop

[nimble kite]

S2 first. S3 if you want to use GG or LappyAlter.

[hidden nacelle]

probably not
easiest to win early but definitely not fastest rewards wise

[proven swan]

yeah very situational, but i'm using him for IS

[nimble kite]

S2 only then.

[paper needle]

also need lot of exp for my unit to lvl em to E1 55

[slim tusk]

you don't need to e1 55

[errant summit]

Should I pull or skip unit Sui siblings banner?

[nimble kite]

Skip

[proven kelp]

I won't really call IS2 to be "easiest" to win early

Other IS are inherently easier to win than IS2 simply because Phantom has more mechanics than others

Dodge can be a bitch if you don't know how to remove it, and you have the issue of having units to survive long enough for your carry to DPS him

Other ED1 boss are simple burst and die, aside from IS6 since he can also just burst your ass

[tight marsh]

I am trying to fix up my Base rn and uh, is 2 Trading Post, 2 Gold Factory, 2 EXP Factory and 2 Power Plants the ideal setup?

[sour phoenix]

Mlynar or Leizi alter

[nimble kite]

Where one more factory?

[slim tusk]

add 1 more factory

[opaque remnant]

just so you know, level recommendations are a scam

[paper needle]

then its just my skill issue

tho idk, my vang unable to handle early LS-5

[proven kelp]

Why not use both

[slim tusk]

don't bother grinding ls 5
just get your base running

[paper needle]

i need exp tho for my base slave

[nimble kite]

You have passed 3-8?

[paper needle]

but yea, ill js focus on upgrading the base

[opaque remnant]

better to do other side content like IS or RA

[paper needle]

yea

[nimble kite]

Then into IS you go.

[paper needle]

hmm, okay, ill js spam IS

[neat mirage]

does anyone have the shoperator history doc

[tight marsh]

I'm following a guide rn, and even if I want another factory, what do I sacrifice?

[sharp crest]

Is grinding for exp cards inefficient? Should I just let base and time do it?

[sudden bramble]

On is6 there is a node that gives me +80 aspd on toss but -20 aspd everytime it tosses again, so my question is, if I just use (PLAN) to remove this node will I keep my +80 aspd and with no risk of debuff or it removed entirely the buff?

[silver smelt]

buf only active when coin tossed
if you plan it away obv u cant toss it

[sudden bramble]

But now my coin is not even tossed and i still got the 80 aspd

[silver smelt]

from where

[sudden bramble]

I can say cuz my logos is being a machine gun

[silver smelt]

you sure its not from a relic?

[sudden bramble]

Both outside and inside the realm

[sudden bramble]

No, the relic ik that increases the aspd is the one on every 5 coin i have but this one is not even tossed and I still got the buff

[coarse notch]

send a screenshot of your relics

[silver smelt]

This?

[shadow bay]

how can u know again if someone rly get the 80 aspd?

by feelings or...????

[sudden bramble]

That's the thing, I died cuz I haven't got a single raidian, but i still wanted to know why the buff was still activated

[silver smelt]

It wasn't

[urban sleet]

You were either schizo or it was some relic

[sudden bramble]

I might be schizo then

[sudden bramble]

Wonder why my logos was so fast, it was just like exusiai s2

[silver smelt]

relic

[urban sleet]

Or a vagary tile tongbao whicj gives aspd

[robust thistle]

its probably vagary tile

or its painter's realm inside bosky

[sudden bramble]

I only had 1 relic of aspd and it wasn't that much, that's why i was confused but maybe It's that, I never knew how vagary tile works, not cuz I dindn't wanted to read, I just don't even know what vagary means since my english sucks

[robust thistle]

vagary tiles are just the piss colored tiles

[nimble kite]

I don't see your base to advise you with that.

[sudden bramble]

Oh, so that's why every time I click it, it says "random effects" the effects depends on the relic I got I see

[tight marsh]

I got this layout?

[robust thistle]

ew 243

[ancient lintel]

convert a power plant to a factory

[nimble kite]

You said 2 Powerplants.
Why you have 3?

[tight marsh]

I'm in the process of switching 😭

[nimble kite]

You basically DIDN'T followed guide at all.

[hollow bloom]

Do we know when could leizi alt join shop

[tight marsh]

Uh the guide says 2/4/3

[robust thistle]

pretty sure it says 252

[nimble kite]

Did we have 243 guide, Kerf?

[tight marsh]

Oh, I wasn't following the guide from the server but on YT

[robust thistle]

like this server had a literal war with the fandom wiki over 243 and 252

wait not fandom wiki, its gamepress

[nimble kite]

Show him the real useful YT guide, lads.

[urban sleet]

If the sourve doesnt explain why 243 is better withour evidence, chances are they are speaking from vibes

Ik a certain guy om yt who does thjs

[robust thistle]

https://youtu.be/eolMMsRn794?si=FdxDC8CbEBfmZVtH

[tight marsh]

Does their name have South, Heart and Violence in it.

Fuh

[grim forum]

the true strat is 072 and then downgrade when you have a lot of materials

[bitter hornet]

mod level for hoshi2?

[urban sleet]

2 minimum, 3 best

[robust thistle]

3 is ideal, 1 if youre poor

[sudden bramble]

Damn i really really really wanted thorns mb, but I also wanna save for ch'en, do yall think It's safe for me just do a few pulls like 10-20 and then save or just don't? (I still got 700-1100 op worth on side story)

I mean i get that he is a old character but i really like him, so i wanted to know if i could atleast try spending a bit of pulls

[robust thistle]

youre burning money if you pull kernel

[coarse notch]

no, no, and wrong banner

[tight marsh]

I have to downgrade some of them? Well that's new.

[opaque remnant]

don't pull unless you have kernel tickets

[coarse notch]

just because you have a backlog of op doesnt mean you should pull irresponsibly

[sudden bramble]

Will he ever be available to buy on the shop with gold certs?

[robust thistle]

every standard op goes to gold cert eventually

[urban sleet]

If tou like him yoi can either pull for hisbalter or save certs fpr him, thing with these bqnmers is that rate for a single rqte-up is low (25%)

[sudden bramble]

1-2 months or more?

[vale finch]

Ooh leizi in cert shop soon?

[robust thistle]

I dont work at yostar

[coarse notch]

thorns is literally in the cert shop right now

[broken flame]

more like uncertain

[sudden bramble]

Yeah sorry

[safe tundra]

no shes just featured banner. its hoederer

[opaque remnant]

it's always the op with the non e2 art

[urban sleet]

No its hoederer (e1 art unit is available fpr certing)

[gentle gust]

depends on how long is soon

[safe tundra]

leizi is gonna be several years

[vale finch]

Ah...is hoederer worth getting with certs?

[sudden bramble]

It's okay if I pull a bit just to get enough certs if in 12 days i don't get enough?

[coarse notch]

only for try harding is5

[coarse notch]

bad idea, go spam recruitment

[robust thistle]

pulling for gold certs is actively losing money

[tight marsh]

@robust thistle I'm getting the notification saying Downgrading will result in insufficient power, what do I do here?

[gentle gust]

do we have like future free 6* ops on the line like

[coarse notch]

downgrade the stuff that isnt your power plant first

[robust thistle]

didnt the video also tell you to downgrade all your dorms to lv1

[sudden bramble]

Alr I'll check how many stuff i got thanks for the idea i totally forgot abt this

[gentle gust]

kaltsit event surely has one

[broken flame]

just spam recruits or if you really become desperate farm red certs and buy 5* dupes in red cert shop

[tight marsh]

So essentially I have to downgrade mostly everything 😭

[coarse notch]

just dorms, some facs will be lvl2

[stark gulch]

you will probably get enough certs from recruiment

[keen scarab]

Downgrade all dorm then factory if needed

[robust thistle]

isnt crownslayer token coming in like 1 day

[coarse notch]

yea but something tells me they werent here for her initial run

[opaque remnant]

if they played last year that is

[robust thistle]

L

[stark gulch]

i mean you do get 1 cert from her contract

[sudden bramble]

I actually have crownslayer

[coarse notch]

bruh its free then just wait for her and get 70 certs

[opaque remnant]

all her pots as well?

[sudden bramble]

No, I got her on lappland event

[coarse notch]

well yes, but did you buy the pots in the shop

[urban sleet]

[opaque remnant]

so you didn't buy the potentials?

[coarse notch]

regardless its fine, even just owning CS should give enough certs to get 21 in 12 days

[sudden bramble]

you could do that?

[coarse notch]

unless their recruitment is bricked

[robust thistle]

pot1 already gives 10 certs

[tight marsh]

What's a good level for the Dorms to stay at?

[coarse notch]

i really hope you've been buying the pot tokens for every event welfare so far

[opaque remnant]

did you not open the event shop..?

[robust thistle]

wdym, you didnt notice the item literally named "Crownslayer's Token" in the event shop
cant you just look at your own crownslayer and see her potential

[urban sleet]

Someome jist said lvl 1 for dorms

[plain salmon]

I feel sorry for those who dont buy pots as they could benefit off a lot from it by gaining more yellow certs

[keen scarab]

Yes

[robust thistle]

did you not read what I said

[nocturne sandal]

Bro never opened event shops

[nimble kite]

Are you aware that Thorns is piece of shit nowadays? To begin any hunting for him.

[tight marsh]

My discord's in the process of being taken over my originium so legit everything's having a stroke rn, sorry

[robust thistle]

you literally replied to the message where I said lv1

[urban sleet]

There are many who dont evem finish mats from shop
Sth sth gotta play the hwme too

When in reality they are increwsing the time they will spend grinding for mats

[sacred cave]

Is stainless good

[robust thistle]

no

[broken flame]

gatito

[sacred cave]

So not worth building at all

[severe crypt]

I mean puffy loooved stainless if that means anything 🥹

[polar scroll]

random q, not sure if this goes here, how do I get slug stickers in stronghold protocol? someone on Reddit said swipe left but nothing happens 🥺

[urban sleet]

#stronghold-hall

[tight marsh]

I'm very dumb so I'm assuming 2 is Gold, 2 is EXP and 1 is flexible?

[plain salmon]

Stainless is good if you know how to abuse from it otherwise as a sidenote he can effectively paralyze lappland alter 3.

[nimble kite]

Like you would build him as SP battery, ATK buff via summons, or cringe turret tactics that makes me sick? Just for wasting your squad slot.

[robust thistle]

yes, pretty sure thats also what the video said

[broken flame]

unless you like/want to use him or you play nicheknights

[sacred cave]

I see, i don't mind him though I just wanted to know why he's good/bad

[nimble kite]

You had to play Icebreaker Games #1, where you did rewarded by this emote pack.

**If you didn't played that, no slug emotes for ya unfortunately. **

[ashen surge]

Ray just use Roadless camelot in the pins.

[tight marsh]

I think I understand it now 😭

[ashen surge]

I'm assuming your right side is bricked so the factories won't be all level 3 but it'll work.

[tight marsh]

I've been neglecting my Base since Nian dropped

Also, is there a guide for which Operator is best for which facility?

[robust thistle]

/baseskills and /base in #bot-spam

[tight marsh]

Thanks alot 😭

[nimble kite]

Also base combo in pins in #r-i-i-c

[plain salmon]

good: offensive recovery skill, pram alter talent stack, dot damage like ascalon can spam it continuously
cons: anything that can make ur ops waste bullets, lappland S3
this is how far I saw using with him.

[ashen surge]

Leizi alter is sidegrade to Mlynar?

[sudden bramble]

Yep, I just really like him as a character and like his history, if I like a character enough I wanna get then

[nimble kite]

Then just cert him or be lucky to get him from Recruitment

[neon siren]

She can't hit through walls tho

[sudden bramble]

Yeah I'll wait 12 days, if I don't get then I just wait for another moment

[ashen surge]

Ik ik

[neon siren]

Alr

[sharp crest]

Is using this worth it?

[nimble kite]

Like you have other option to use them.

[sharp crest]

To collect ofc

[nimble kite]

Bruh.

[radiant pelican]

which skill to m3 for entellechia?

[nimble kite]

S3 > S2

[radiant pelican]

which one gets used in is?

[nimble kite]

Depends on situation.

[broken flame]

s2 usually but yeah depends

it's nice with frds

[sour phoenix]

Mlynar or Leizi alter

[nimble kite]

Mlynar

[fallow hinge]

For AFKnights using Ulpianus Gladiia should be used alongside him instead of relying on medics?

[nimble kite]

Ulpipi+Glad for times you need to tank very strong enemy/boss. Like Harold in Degen Event.

Otherwise just use medics, since they can heal everyone.

[proven kelp]

Depends on what you're tanking

If it really hits hard, sure
Otherwise I'd rather use Mon3tr

[sharp crest]

She not garbage, right?

[nimble kite]

Yes

[fallow hinge]

I don't have Mon3tr so I guess I'll just use the medics I have. I'll hold on my resources for now.

[nimble kite]

You would replace her in future tho.

[sharp crest]

Still long time until I pull for chars anyway

[keen scarab]

she's your friendly starter

[broken flame]

she's cheap enough to max E1 and can be used for IS fillers so go ahead

[gusty star]

Hello chat

Thinking of buying reed alter
Is that a good idea for a potato phone?

Cause ppl said shes FPS killer and such

[nimble kite]

Questionable, if you have many other casters.

[severe crypt]

So if you have a “potato” phone you won’t buy Reed?

[gusty star]

Kinda im a bit skeptical I heard shes good for aoe and mob rush

[nimble kite]

If there's 100+ enemies on the screen, sure, you might get 1 FPS.

[broken flame]

You can grab her from the free 6* selector for 7th anni instead

[gusty star]

Oh I was planning that for logos tho or ines

[severe crypt]

the FREE one

[nimble kite]

If you take Logos, you don't need Reed.

[broken flame]

the free one is different

[gusty star]

Oh I forgot what do they have on free one

Also I dont have any good aoe caster...
https://www.krooster.com/u/awesome-honey-snail-55mx

Lapipi is Single target technically

[broken flame]

Saileach, Surtr, Pozyomka, Reed alter, Suzuran, Mizuki, Mudrock, Passenger

[severe crypt]

No good aoe caster
has pramalt

[gusty star]

Ain't she supporter?

[severe crypt]

ALTER

[gusty star]

Oh

[inland swallow]

pramalter is the best afk caster

[severe crypt]

So now i think the final decision is clear

[gusty star]

Yeah not buying reed alter

[slate ridge]

tfw Marcille is also there

[gusty star]

Isnt she a good aoe caster back in the days?

[severe crypt]

All the more reason the original question is pointless

[broken flame]

[gusty star]

Im just asking cause im curious

[pale glen]

Is Leizi Alter worth the 180

[broken flame]

yes

[formal shadow]

she's not on the shop

[urban sleet]

Except she isnt the shoperator

[broken flame]

wait like 1 year

[pale glen]

Oh

[severe crypt]

Hoe is the shoperator

[pale glen]

Good for pulls then

[urban sleet]

No lightning aunt for you, only a hoe

[inland swallow]

[broken flame]

he got the cake for it just sayin

[urban sleet]

He do be a hoe

[gusty star]

Wait can prahmanix alter atk flying enemies?

[broken flame]

yes... she's a caster

[pale glen]

Yea

[gusty star]

The ice summon thing can hit airborn enemies!?

[broken flame]

No

[severe crypt]

What ice summon, the blue box?

[gusty star]

You know her s2 passove where she generate ice field and such

[broken flame]

She can hit them herself. The ice tiles won't, and the frozen blue box is a stationary brick.

[undone portal]

the blue box doesnt attack if thats what youre asking
her snow tiles dont hit aerial, but she does

[gusty star]

[pseudo flume]

It can with Entel S2

[undone portal]

keep in mind it wont block aerial enemies, they will leak if they reach

[pale glen]

Got myself hoping in that Leizi Alter game news lmao

[gusty star]

I just realized im severely lacking on AA unit...

[broken flame]

what

[urban sleet]

Kroos and Kroosalt:

[gusty star]

Anti Air

[slate ridge]

?

[undone portal]

are hoshialt/mlynar/sakiko/lemuen/wis'adel/ch'2n/pramalt not enough aerial damage for you

[broken flame]

You don't really lack, what more do you need

[urban sleet]

Wtf thats their account?

[undone portal]

elas kinda shit against air actually, bad example
point still stands

[slate ridge]

?

[pseudo flume]

Biblical levels of Greed

[undone portal]

exualts there too

[formal shadow]

it's the new flexing meta

[severe crypt]

Oh yeah
This the #help bullshit worth living for

[pseudo flume]

I thought it was some random cursed tech that gets spouted here

[gusty star]

I just realized I dont have kross alter

[severe crypt]

THATS NOT THE POINT

[undone portal]

do you even need her at this point 🥀

[broken flame]

Christ

[pale glen]

You don't even need her atp

[urban sleet]

Thats not the point anymore

[broken flame]

yeah you're definitely lacking, I don't see Wang frfr

[undone portal]

any worries, aerial or not, should be thoroughly blasted away with all the dps options you own

[gusty star]

I see

[pseudo flume]

Bruteforce enough and you won't care about really specific roles ya

[sharp crest]

I hate drone enemies

[gusty star]

Same I still getting clapped by that praying seal

[pseudo flume]

Thats just within ch 0 - 8

[broken flame]

reminds me of that one stage in IS5 that I hate

[supple frost]

uh

[severe crypt]

Save it, both ops suck

[pseudo flume]

Tbh Drones aren't that common

[supple frost]

gg

[undone portal]

@sharp crest just use kroos
@gusty star just use lemuen

[supple frost]

no its quite literally only those 2

[gusty star]

Speaking oof drone what happen to that bomber drone where but drop big bomb again?

[pseudo flume]

Just choose whatever both are bad anyway

[sharp crest]

I already invested in regular exusiai rip

[supple frost]

alright

[broken flame]

pick whoever you vibe with

[severe crypt]

Stop investing in her

[undone portal]

oh lol, that works

[pseudo flume]

Ursus Artillerymen?

[gusty star]

Yeah and those smaller one where it has ice variant

[sharp crest]

Because she sucks?

[gusty star]

That thing got me suprisingly...

[severe crypt]

Yes exactly
Well you can still use her, just start investing in better ops

[undone portal]

those drones stop showing up after ch8 because uh. youre not in ursus anymore

[pseudo flume]

Oh you are talking about the Bombtails and Oneiros

[gusty star]

Hmmm
Would it be possible for them to go back in zima after event?

[undone portal]

youll see them again once you come back to ursus in ch16

[broken flame]

Can the Londinium Cannon hit Kal2? Shower thoughts

[gusty star]

[deep topaz]

In your opinion, which ops benefit most from yuu s3?

[gusty star]

Well in cooked.

[pseudo flume]

Ya I recalled when he said ice variant

[broken flame]

Blaze2 because she's literally not a unit without him

[glass mural]

Blaze Alter in the current stronghold protocol.

[undone portal]

lappalt/goldenglow/blazealt/reedalt/viviana

[deep topaz]

Man I completely forgot that viviana exists, gotta e2 someday maybe

[gusty star]

Speaking of stronghold protocol
Is passenger actually good there or just cn making them overhyped?

[pseudo flume]

Pram2, Lapplter, Tragodia

[undone portal]

hes good because sargon alliance buff is good

[nimble kite]

Use S1 and you will see how he's good.

[gusty star]

Wait that mean executor alter and silence alter also good in that game mode huh?

[undone portal]

passenger s1 charges the buff fairly quickly

execalt yes, laterano buff is good
silencealt not so much, aid/assist arent

[grim forum]

is ceylon worth building

[nimble kite]

That's not we actually meant, but what you said is also right.

[pseudo flume]

She's shit

[onyx mango]

She's defective

[grim forum]

💀

[broken flame]

4 star better than her

[pseudo flume]

Her only use is for crafting in Base

[nimble kite]

Would you read her talent?

[undone portal]

ch'2n synergy waow

[gusty star]

Oh yeah can I ask about base talent in here?

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[grim forum]

would if i have her, i just saw that she's a prize from the side story thing

[pseudo flume]

That's normal

[grim forum]

if she was good i could prioritize that one quickly

[gusty star]

Im curious what base talent that give you clue you didnt get?
Like raise the chances?
I only know 2 but im curious if theres more

[undone portal]

you should get her, shes one of the best workshop workers already at e0

[broken flame]

Also you can use that event stage for module missions. The 0 sanity stages

[undone portal]

try checking phlegyas spreadsheet in #r-i-i-c , its pinned

-# i only redirect because i dont have the answer memorized myself

[gusty star]

👍

[undone portal]

@gusty star more of them than i thought there were actually

[hard gulch]

Who i should promote next (except mon3tr because i already planning on it)

[undone portal]

ascalon, she appreciates mod x access

[pseudo flume]

Valarquin Erasure 🥀

[gusty star]

Hmm suprisingly I dont have puzzle and valarqin

[undone portal]

idk why her icon isnt there 🥀

[urban sleet]

Ascalon and provisio

[hard gulch]

Alright

[glossy schooner]

(Just saying this cause I like the character, not an actual recommendation even if Mitm is fine)
How about Mitm?

[undone portal]

proviso because she prints lmd for you

[polar pier]

What Stainless module for overall use?

[undone portal]

mitm is definitely a bias pick, but a decent one, functionally speaking

[undone portal]

would personally go for y so whoever youre buffing with s1 also gets a little aspd
neither mod really does anything big for s3 if thats your prerogative

[glossy schooner]

Exactly, it is bias, clarified it as such too, some what of a damage focused Beanstalk since his skills either make his tac point explode or boosts its block and damage

[undone portal]

i will always appreciate a chance to shill mitm s1

[glossy schooner]

I even bought his Halloween skin!

[minor shale]

how do i get gambling money fast

[undone portal]

rob banks what is this about?

[glossy schooner]

Empty your bank account or do events and challenge mode stages you haven’t done if you want it Fast.
Otherwise just do your daily’s weekly’s and annilations

[minor shale]

k

[pseudo flume]

💳

[undone portal]

oh lol. everything mosie says
buy the enhancement packs in the store that cost , if you havent already

[sharp crest]

Empty your account's goldmine (old events)

It still takes time tho

Did I killed chat?

[undone portal]

just help having a slow hour

[broken flame]

one silly question is all it takes to revive the channel

[urban sleet]

True I am playijg with my dog

[undone wren]

Hi any suggestion guys?

[urban sleet]

Senior op+shift for feater gamble (for base)

[undone portal]

debuff gives you a 2/5 for shamare or waaifu
shift gives you a 1/3 for feater
all of these are for base

[urban sleet]

Debuff has shamare heah forgot

[sharp crest]

Feater is nice and thicc

[cursive maple]

??!

[void thistle]

whats a fast way to get furniture parts?

[glossy schooner]

I mean, Shamare is pretty good for Patriot and really any other boss that has a fuckton of defense or res if you’re at that point of the game, she certainly helped me.
Buuut then again most can just get the funny win button ops that kill him in two seconds because of borrowing, so yeah.

And yes her base combo with alcohol dog is great(Tequila)

[cursive maple]

uh

[ivory terrace]

buy from event store

[undone portal]

oh yea, theres highend uses for shamare for sure. goated is2/6 draft if you know what youre doing
just that for most people her base usage will be of more note

[onyx mango]

Shamare shill in 2026 :yatta:

[glossy schooner]

Yeah, fair.
Still, I like having her around for if she’s needed, better to have the fragile nuke on hand than not I suppose.

[cursive maple]

is5 as well

[cursive maple]

5 stars are ass wcyd

[glossy schooner]

I wouldn’t know myself IS wise seeing as I’ve really only played IS6 and won One run on IS 5 and 3

[paper needle]

better to use raidian or tragodia as sp IS?

[paper gyro]

How good is shamare if I have Suzuran

they both have fragile

[glossy schooner]

Suzu has her massive slow range on S3 while Shamare is just, toss a debuff 3x3 wherever there’s place for the doll to be placed, I feel Suzu would be better though since she also has the slow

[formal shadow]

shamare reduces def & atk and suzu fragiles & slows

[onyx mango]

Shamare is used for her 50% atk&def debuff, her fragile is ass

[glossy schooner]

Idk the specifics though, that’s kinda just a guess seeing as I’ve never used Suzu

[cursive maple]

suzu costs 10 hope as well

[ancient lintel]

eeh suzu can debuff a large area, sham can debuff 9 tiles anywhere on the map (most of the time)

[onyx mango]

I've never known shamare doll can gives fragile ...

[formal shadow]

it's her talent no

[vital kelp]

shamare doll doesnt give fragile

[ancient lintel]

it's her trait, she's a hexer iirc

[glossy schooner]

It’s not that, it’s enemies being in her range below 40% for fragile I misremembered and edited my message to correct it

[lyric lagoon]

either way, both are niche so don't raise them if you have other stuff to raise (unless you're raising shamare for base, then do e2)

[nimble kite]

She doesn't.

[vital kelp]

its not range expansion like skalter, she only has fragile in her own range

[onyx mango]

That's why I've never heard that

Unedited message was 3x3 fragile smh

Comparing suzu and sham is kinda weird this whole convo

[formal shadow]

-def frag it's all kill more options anyways

[paper gyro]

I happened to have both Suzuran and shamare from recruitment