help

[vital kelp]

oh, 3 set
1 from is2, 1 from cc, 1 from red cert

[limpid yarrow]

they do it when they feel nice

[wraith shoal]

doubt he can do cc

[vital kelp]

since hes specialist not caster lmao

[limpid yarrow]

ya it’s not a concern for most players

[vital kelp]

no one's dumb enough to fail 620 on new cc right? still a bit of time to build account

[limpid yarrow]

he’s still exploding event bosses to crumbs at pot0
do not be worried

[minor mica]

oops, yeah her alter. I'll keep that one in mind as well ty

[undone portal]

youve got 6months to prep for ccb5, should be enough time to throw together enough for one set of tokens. not that wang really needs the help

[dense walrus]

i damn hope so

[limpid yarrow]

620 is usually like a 2- 3op type of solve just borrow one and have the others it shouldn’t be too bad

you’re not going to fail 620 because you missed one wang pot you’ll live

[hexed adder]

Pot0 using cheat surely

[vital kelp]

alright guys enuff of this pot talk

how do i win d18 is5 ending 2 + 4 + 5

[limpid yarrow]

check my name

[vital kelp]

what does that even mean

[limpid yarrow]

🌲 🌲 🌲 🌲 🌲 🌲

[tepid barn]

🌲 🌲 🌲 🌲 🌲 🌲

[vital kelp]

oh, the self duplicating tree?

[stark gulch]

500 shrivel and sprout

[dense walrus]

is cc a permanent event?

[limpid yarrow]

no

[dense walrus]

so only annihilation, is and the reclamation thing are

"endgame"

[wraith shoal]

anni is not endgame

[vital kelp]

so lowkey get 2 encounter first floor, get claw, get tree

go to floor 2, get ending 2 relic, get encounter for amiya encounter, go in lost and found for quilon relic

go to floor 3, beat quilon faceoff, kill amiya

go to floor 4, get big egg?

what the flip this is a lot of shit to do

[limpid yarrow]

no you play erudite

[dense walrus]

well it's pretty fun

[vital kelp]

what does that mean

[limpid yarrow]

and start with 6 shrivel and sprouts
tragodia humus myrth open

floor 3 get petal everything else depends

[wraith shoal]

but it's not endgame, and after you do all of them you'll only do full runs once every 3 months

[vital kelp]

😭 i have to get out of blueprint wheelchair and use another squad??

[dense walrus]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN EVERY 3 MONTHS WHY?

[limpid yarrow]

don’t get amiya early since you’re doing everything fractured and don’t need more pressure

[wraith shoal]

cause you will have done everything already, why do it again. New maps are once every 3 months

[limpid yarrow]

blueprint is lowk buns for d18
unless you giga high roll it’s not happening

[vital kelp]

Fa

[limpid yarrow]

3 plan verticals means the infinite nodes strategy stops working as well

[dense walrus]

wtf I thought that was the rotation thing every week? in so confused

[vital kelp]

how do i enuff of the holding portable limit to hold more trees

[wraith shoal]

you do it once and then you just auto it. The practice ones you do once and never again

[dense walrus]

how am i supposed to auto it when wang comes out if i have to manually place traps

I think I'm too tired to think rationally

[wraith shoal]

you know you can insta complete annihilations after you did it once with no supports right?

[limpid yarrow]

you get 10 more starting toll limit

[dense walrus]

I've been doing it with supports all long this time

[limpid yarrow]

and good discipline with tree management 🌲 🌲 🌲

[vital kelp]

[dense walrus]

i wouldn't survive a single annihilation without someone else's wisadel or thorns

[wraith sentinel]

...

[wraith shoal]

permanent ones should be done without so you can auto it and get the weekly rewards faster

[stark gulch]

do you just throw out every inspirer other than rise and fall and industry or smth

[urban sleet]

Wisrot is something but damn thornsrot is new

[vital kelp]

bro finds fun within wisadel abuse :

[dense walrus]

that's because my thorns is e1 currently

[obtuse obsidian]

thornrot is older then most people here

[urban sleet]

Yk low rarity guides exist on youtube

[dense walrus]

I'm not wasting LMD on low stars

[vital kelp]

😭

[obtuse obsidian]

like shit that stuff is 5 years old

it being alive still is another story

[wraith sentinel]

Just use them as guides for your own clears, use your brain a little...

[frank wing]

do you have pramanix alter?

[dense walrus]

yes

[wraith shoal]

then why do you even need supports dawg

[dense walrus]

this is what i run

[urban sleet]

What does your krooster looks like
I have a feeling yoj wasted lmd on bad 5 stars

[vital kelp]

how does bro struggle without a wisadel then

[wraith shoal]

brother why do you even need supports with these units

[vital kelp]

bro would rather raise liskaram and texas over 4 stars

[dense walrus]

because not everyone is lvl 90

[urban sleet]

If yoh struggle with that roster
Sorry to say but you have extreme skill issue

[wraith sentinel]

...

[vital kelp]

chat is this real?

[wraith shoal]

ok? They dont need to be fully maxed to trivialise the annis

[dense walrus]

they're mixed levels

[wraith sentinel]

Why do you think level 90 is necessary.

[hexed adder]

V1. Means he didn't borrow

[vital kelp]

😭 this cant be bait

[analog birch]

Is IS6 DLC2 next month

[urban sleet]

Bro wants lvl 90 for annihilations when even endgame content doesnt always ask for lvl 90

[dense walrus]

so deal they the maximum amount of damage and have hp

[wraith shoal]

you should never level ops to 90, never worth it

[wraith sentinel]

My guy, Annihilations are not endgame.

[severe crypt]

You don’t know how little the difference is between lvl 60 and 90

[dense walrus]

at least lvl 80+

[wraith shoal]

hell nah

[vital kelp]

[raven ermine]

Nice 5 atk for 500k lmd/exp

[severe crypt]

Also annihilations are EZ

[wraith sentinel]

-# Some Annihilations are even cleared E0L1.

[frank wing]

Check out this channel, they have AFK guides with Pram2, just replace low rarity ops with your units https://youtube.com/@tranquil134?si=W0sjYpZ_WzFFNtf8

[dense walrus]

so i should do everyone to e2 lvl 60?

[severe crypt]

Like annihilations are just put 4-8 afk ops and sleep

[coarse crescent]

yes

[wraith sentinel]

At most...

[urban sleet]

Yes lets waste another e2 60's worth od lmd and mats to level an operator from 60 to 90 for 27 atk

[dense walrus]

because some stages ask for e2 lvl 40 and upwards

[wraith sentinel]

Those are recommendations, not requirements. Inaccurate requirements most of the time.

[coarse crescent]

if waifu over meta, do as u wish

[frank wing]

that's recommended level, doesn't matter

[urban sleet]

Those dont matter at all

[analog birch]

In exception of trag (e282 Mod3 or e288 Mod2), yea you can leave them at e260

[dense walrus]

so i won't get a damage penalty?

[wraith sentinel]

...

[vital kelp]

what game did bro come from

[coarse crescent]

just ignore the recommended

[severe crypt]

How big of a “penalty” do you think you’re getting

[frank wing]

what are you on about

[raven ermine]

No, but why are you inventing mechanics out of the blue

[dense walrus]

solo leveling arise

[wraith sentinel]

...

[urban sleet]

Is this game called solo leveling arise

[dense walrus]

less damage to enemies, more hp enemies

[analog birch]

no?

[vital kelp]

some game does have "if below recommended level screw u"

[wraith sentinel]

Damn.

[severe crypt]

That’s not a thing here wtf

[wraith shoal]

yo what is even going on

[urban sleet]

Does the game anywhere mention 'penalty'

[frank wing]

did you know that different games have different mechanics

[analog birch]

nope

Maybe in IS there are some instances

[severe crypt]

What even convinced you that that type of mechanic is universal

[coarse crescent]

even

[dense walrus]

Well no but i feel like Kroos alter or maxed out click do barely any damage in some stages

[timber finch]

tbf arknight would've had told you far earlier then e2 that you'd be screwed by it

[analog birch]

IS did not have penalties?

[severe crypt]

BECAUSE OF OTHER GODDAMN REASONS

[timber finch]

1500 defense ennemy will tank kroos
1500 res ennemy will tank click
invert both and they'll do dmg

[raven ermine]

Well
What are they hitting
Maybe check the specific enemy first

[urban sleet]

This is worse than #arknights

[coarse crescent]

unless u running for high CC , even IS at N18 is doable with not lvl 90 ops, just need luck and good farming strat in game for relics

[raven ermine]

That's not how res works

[frank wing]

1500 res

[severe crypt]

Like you’re taking a Toyota Camry to a drag strip and wondering why the top fuel dragsters are beating it

[dense walrus]

guess I'll get all of them to e2 lvl 60 then

[timber finch]

i just used the same number cause lazy
*shouldve had said 100 or 90 *

[severe crypt]

It’s not cuz the dragsters are stealing hp from the Camry

[coarse crescent]

unless ur waifu

[wraith sentinel]

That's fine, yes. Even lower is also fine if you aren't going for their Modules immediately.

[coarse crescent]

or your rich endgame

[dense walrus]

well i plan to do it for ines, pram alter, skalter, thorns,

[frank wing]

also just so you know, 5 stars go to e2 lvl 50, and 4 stars go to e2 lvl 40

[obtuse obsidian]

something like this probably works

maybe change trag pos to be next to sa idk i did way less for this stage

[drifting prairie]

you're telling me you dont max your units? 🥱

[dense walrus]

i was mostly referring to the 6 stars

[frank wing]

ik but just in case you raise a 5 or 4 star

[dense walrus]

i already did this stage yesterday lol

[vital kelp]

u can also u know

not raise any 5 star, and raise ur 4 star to e1 60

[obtuse obsidian]

i thought you wanted to do it without support wis

[raven ermine]

You do you, but that's like 2.5m lmd and 2.8m exp down the drain when you look like you're struggling already

[drifting prairie]

some 4* are worth E2ing

[coarse crescent]

5stars like ptilosis, saria, texas, lappy, shamare. etc worth raising as well

[dense walrus]

i think wang will be a good replacement for wisadel, then I'll try doing solo content

[timber finch]

(saria is a 6 star)

[analog birch]

[severe crypt]

Like lvl90ing should only be a consideration at all when NOT in poverty

[coarse crescent]

MYRTLE

[vital kelp]

name some other than niche ones like ethan or indigo

[obtuse obsidian]

i assume the texas is texas alter since you said saria

[analog birch]

no not myrtle

Send her down to e160 sl7

[timber finch]

why would you replace a top 4 unit by a top 4 unit

[urban sleet]

E1 lvl 1 in fact

[dense walrus]

i thought it was a standard, that's why i got Tragodia to 90 🔥

[coarse crescent]

i was thinking something else, bruh my hand typed on its own

[frank wing]

id probably use both but whatever

[turbid ocean]

if you build base properly you can afford to max level stuff occasionally

[raven ermine]

Smh you couldn't find a better 4* than myrtle uh

[dense walrus]

I don't have both, I'm supposed to suto it

[vital kelp]

light u think this guy has a proper base or base slave raised?

[coarse crescent]

ofc,

[analog birch]

I'm gonna call no

[obtuse obsidian]

all 4* sucks to e2 tbh unless you are some ultra nerd

[dense walrus]

i messed up my base like crazy

[vital kelp]

theres absolutely 0 chance here

[turbid ocean]

idk idc just stating whats accurate

[timber finch]

fix it.

[turbid ocean]

dont upload unnecessarily see rules in the pins

[severe crypt]

Light this is flexing right

[analog birch]

He gone

[timber finch]

i see mountain e2, and i can only respect your choice from on then.
dont e2 mountain people btw

[raven ermine]

So why are we flexing here
Do i send my roster for reviews or smth

[severe crypt]

I’m just gonna call it shit mayu dw 🥹

[vital kelp]

sure mayu we love u

what skill for sakiko before e2?

[raven ermine]

See rbp, how hard is it to be nice

[dense walrus]

i can't, i realized too late that i can't downgrade the ones on the right

[severe crypt]

Very very hard

[obtuse obsidian]

that part dont matter lol

[vital kelp]

maxed right 252 still work

[coarse crescent]

something seems off

[timber finch]

that doesnt matter, you can still do a good 252 but you messed up the left side, and the right side somehow
why is that training room lv 2

[dense walrus]

does that mean trade one factory for power plant?

[worn drift]

the placement bother me tbh

[raven ermine]

downgrade a factory lv3 and upgrade the lv1 to lv2

[vital kelp]

no that becomes 243

[obtuse obsidian]

ya spreading level is better

for your sanity too

[dense walrus]

i thought specializations were important

[timber finch]

they are, why is it level 2 tho ??
get it lv 3

[raven ermine]

also you'll have to downgrade one more factory lv3 for training room lv3

[vital kelp]

thats why u do maxed training room and leave anything else minimal

[dense walrus]

Because I can't get it to 3 LMAO

[raven ermine]

if you keep dodging the advice imma just stop helping and you do you

[vital kelp]

😭 do we have any other "solo levelling rise" player here can we have some better explainer

[dense walrus]

then I'll earn less lmd 💯

[raven ermine]

ok deal, gl 🫡

[worn drift]

that game is ahh dont bother to compare

[obtuse obsidian]

master 3 matter more then that little lmd you losing

[severe crypt]

I love it when the helpee clearly knows better somehow 🥀

[raven ermine]

Like factories are producing lmd anyway
If anything it's exp they're missing out on

[turbid ocean]

dont bring up off topic

[worn drift]

go read pins in #r-i-i-c if u want to fix ur base

[severe crypt]

Also it’s kinda hypocritical to bring up slim lmd losses when you were deadass about to lvl 90 a bunch of ops

[dense walrus]

i fixed it

[timber finch]

only 500k loss per op for little stats-

[vital kelp]

2 dorm

[urban sleet]

Wha

[worn drift]

damn

[vital kelp]

bros refusing guide while being completely glueless himself

[raven ermine]

The issue with lv90 isn't lmd
It's exp

[wraith shoal]

it's both

[worn drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBw1UW03crs
watch this please

[dense walrus]

i had to reduce dorm for power for training room 3??

[lyric lagoon]

you mean you bricked it*

[urban sleet]

I think we can join mayuhiko on ignoring this person clearly they think they know better despite having 0 idea

[timber finch]

i agree more on that one tbh
it's hella expensive thoses last 10 lv smh

[vital kelp]

i agree

[analog birch]

So is IS6 DLC2 next month

[urban sleet]

In cn it was between titi and wsng

[timber finch]

by the way make sure thoses factory are running next time you take a screenshot please

[raven ermine]

Not really
it's easy to produce excess lmd
It's not easy to produce excess exp
Just look at how much you need for lv90 and you'll see you need way more exp than lmd
Now look at your daily base income, i have 70k lmd and 31k exp daily
So i produce more than twice as much lmd when it consume like 1.5 times more exp than lmd

[vital kelp]

unless u do like 153 u wont get excessive exp tbf

[wraith sentinel]

Are there Operators other than Hoshiguma the Breacher who have all three types of Recovery in their Skills?

[obtuse obsidian]

if am going to master one skill on swire alter other then s2 which one do i pick

(IS usage will be the main reason for this)

[vital kelp]

i get like 70k lmd and 16k exp daily

[limpid yarrow]

s3 probably

[raven ermine]

s3, swalter also mostly uses s3 for IS anyway

[blissful island]

are 20 runs on sk-3 too much? not sure how many I need to have enough blue mats to upgrade everything I need in base

[timber finch]

if your base isnt maxed then it wasnt too much
if it is, oh well

[dense walrus]

ok i saw it, i traded 5th factory for 3rd power plant, now i can have 3 dorms and max out the remaining 2 factories to lvl 3

[wraith sentinel]

...

[blissful island]

oh no I haven't done all those 20 runs yet
I'm probably still at my 7th or something

[timber finch]

oh well, imo id just do your base part by part then to make sure you dont overfarm cause afterward it's useless garbage tbh
better not to have excess carbon

[wraith sentinel]

Plus you get some of the materials from dailies anyhow.

[blissful island]

noted tyvm guys

[worn drift]

did u watched the full vid?

[raven ermine]

Carbon good for 9cd
Issue being, new players don't have 9cd

[wraith sentinel]

I don't think they even read the title.

[urban sleet]

Let them be, some people are not worth jt

[timber finch]

whats 9cd?

[raven ermine]

Nine colored deer

[urban sleet]

A collab op

[gentle dove]

What did I stumble into 😭

[dense walrus]

no i just watched it fully

[timber finch]

ah, i see why
fair use of carbon

[vital kelp]

wait does sakiko s2 have passive benefit being the first one before she activate

[dense walrus]

I messed up again 😂

[gentle dove]

Son

[urban sleet]

Here have some bleach and forget they exist

Cant force people to follow shat we say+they think they know better

[median fable]

this MUST be ragebait

[raven ermine]

Before activation she has the phys notes
After she has the arts notes

That, or low tier gacha brainrot
Either way, not worth it

[vital kelp]

is it too late to get amiya relic on floor 4

whens the latest time u can obtain the one that summons the little ghost

[dense walrus]

alright i fixed it for realsies @worn drift

[limpid yarrow]

f5

f4 is a perfectly normal time to get it tbh

as long as you can kill it in time
and find a second encounter to trade it in

[dense walrus]

i just barely touch the base part, i wasn't expecting endfield in Arknights

[gentle dove]

Base is your main income for lmd/exp

[timber finch]

im just gonna say
i hope you didnt use op on getting back your drones over and over.

[gentle dove]

Geez

[dense walrus]

yes i did i do this all the time

op is temporary, my income is permanent for now

[gentle dove]

Ragebait indeed

[dense walrus]

well how else am i supposed to get more sanity to play??

[worn drift]

bro got infinite op glitch

[lyric lagoon]

it’s puffy alter alter…

[gentle dove]

Mmhmm

[dense walrus]

or to farm lmd

takes like 300 sanity for like 30/50k lmd

[worn drift]

its called patience
u got lot of lmd from base

[buoyant sigil]

Is the ashy marsh annihilation one of the harder ones? I was trying to finish my last few for first-time rewards and it felt very noticeably harder.
Not that it was very difficult at all, I mean, these are usually quite trivial 1-attempt things, but the gap felt quite large
Closest I’ve felt was the mandragora one, and that’s just because she’s slightly annoying to burst down

[gentle dove]

How didn't evolution take these people already

[raven ermine]

It's obviously bait at this point, just stop engaging idk
They're not even asking questions

[wraith sentinel]

The ones with a boss can be a bit annoying at times.

[worn drift]

yeah imma do my work instead

[timber finch]

if that help you, theres this graph

[buoyant sigil]

Isn’t this outdated or something?

[timber finch]

someone sent it today so i was guessing not

[lyric lagoon]

now it’s easy, easy, and easy diff with pram2

[raven ermine]

Might not include like the last few releases, but it's not outdated

[wraith sentinel]

Lungmen Commercial District was the bane of me for a while.

[signal cloud]

what does swire's attribute mean by having yan/investor activated on the bench? do I need to have people on my bench for it to work?

[vital kelp]

Yes

[buoyant sigil]

Fair, fair
What boss was that again? I don’t recall

[lyric lagoon]

rat

[buoyant sigil]

Oh yeah

[vital kelp]

rat

[worn drift]

what if I got Raidian on f5. do I still got all the buff?

[vital kelp]

guys amiya relic that summons the little thing that u need to kill, what floor does that appear

[urban sleet]

Do you mean the first encounter?

[wraith sentinel]

Rat King was a pain but also for a while I kept resetting because I was losing Life Points and thought somehow enemies were getting through but it was just the Command Terminals being destroyed.

[buoyant sigil]

Those are quite annoying sometimes indeed

[urban sleet]

The first encounter will be your first encounter starting from f2

[vital kelp]

yeah

[buoyant sigil]

In the reed event mechanic is it just advisable to avoid placing people on reeds because they burn and rot

[timber finch]

arent like all high grounds reeds

[buoyant sigil]

No

[wraith sentinel]

As long as you have a good healer it isn't too bad.

[vital kelp]

ok im on floor 4 its not the first encounter

[urban sleet]

are you sure you didnt skip encojnters f2 onwarfs

[vital kelp]

i did, thats why i was asking if it spawns on f4

[urban sleet]

Thats pretty strange

[buoyant sigil]

Fair. My operators didn’t die indeed
Still thanking hg for not making eblana burnslop after the reedic side story had a lot of burnslop dublinn

[vital kelp]

i did a total of 1 encounter on f1 before this

[lyric lagoon]

ulpianus buff

[buoyant sigil]

True though

[limpid yarrow]

if the buffs are active you get the money even if she’s not deployed

[native cargo]

are these limited?

[buoyant sigil]

I think only returns when the event reruns or becomes available for record restoration, 1 and 2 years from now respectively

See how the Zwillingstürme im Herbst (virtuosa) furniture only recently returned to the shop

[surreal wing]

What's the best saria skill

[ancient current]

s1

[surreal wing]

Or should I not invest her at this age

[vital kelp]

comfy raise although arguably that even

[surreal wing]

The afk skill? Thought it'd be s2

[ancient current]

s2 is too awkward
s1 is the comfier skill

[obtuse obsidian]

both are afk skills

[worn drift]

we can get free Crownslayer from this event??

[vital kelp]

yes

[surreal wing]

Alr, I'll do her after finishing other stuff. Need to do mon3tr and sakiko first

[ancient current]

yes, she was the event welfare

[vital kelp]

although im not sure why u'd want a free crownslayer

[ancient current]

gold certs

👍

[worn drift]

all this time I thought she a standard banner cha

well I like her story so

[obtuse obsidian]

tbh she is not that horrible anymore after module 2

[surreal wing]

She's kinda not a great unit but I think they kinda made her usable

Also is sankta worth investing into? Heard he does some stuff for ammo teams and laterano ops

[vital kelp]

niche

[surreal wing]

Aight I'll ignore him for now

[abstract mauve]

[vital kelp]

is hoshi2 not very good in is5

[abstract mauve]

i dont see why she'd be particularly good other than something to draft on defender voucher but ig she doesnt have a hand associated with her so there's that

oh and her s3 is +230% atk so the king's relics are heavily diluted

[vital kelp]

i thought since shes good in is6 she might be ok in is5

[obtuse obsidian]

hoshi is always good cause she is the only dps defender 🥹

[slender wasp]

hey guys which ntr knight module is better?

[obtuse obsidian]

X1

[slender wasp]

dragongjy's doc doesnt have her listed for some reason

[worn drift]

how to download CN pc client?

[abstract mauve]

he doesnt have very old mods listed iirc

[abstract mauve]

do you have CN account?

[worn drift]

no, can I make one?

[vital kelp]

tuff

[abstract mauve]

it's a bit of a process

[worn drift]

is there any guide , I thought it just download, sign up and play

[vital kelp]

#cn-lounge pin

[coarse notch]

you need to upload your government id and have it verified in cn

[lament loom]

It's CN (China). Doubt it's that easy to do as a foreigner.

[coarse notch]

shes okay

[hidden wolf]

U need cn id to sign up no?

[worn drift]

dem boi, imma ask my chinese friend for his id then. Im gonna look around #cn-lounge for now

[coarse notch]

no you can verify a foreign id
cn id is much easier tho

[vital kelp]

if u dont have one + cn phone number u need to email bilibili

[coarse notch]

hoshi2 is taken for ed5 rarely

[lament loom]

For soloing boss-type enemies, which one is more reliable. Surtr or Hoshi2?

[proven kelp]

Coughing Baby vs Hydrogen Bomb ahh

[abstract mauve]

surtr vs way better surtr

[teal latch]

trying to figure out "stacks" in the Stronghold Protocol Alliance, didn't find a link in Pins... anyone have a good guide on that? The walk through in game left me confused.

[lament loom]

A defender having more dmg and utility than Arts Guard. Damn gg

[wraith sentinel]

Each Operator has their own way of generating stacks, is explained in their description.

[lament loom]

#stronghold-hall exists if u need help with that

[vital kelp]

which module for this guy

[worn drift]

hoshi2 is limited op right?

[abstract mauve]

the one that gives more tenacity when low iirc

should be mod x ye

[raw wigeon]

His Y module is a well-known meme 😭

[fresh anvil]

yes.

[lament loom]

Y = why?

[vital kelp]

how high is high roll in is

[abstract mauve]

win with shit comp levels

[odd sky]

🚬 it's arbitrary

[vital kelp]

how do i play theresia twin stage again?

[abstract mauve]

is5 ed2?

just kill the boss

[odd sky]

bypass theresis dr with tru dmg or pull him away from theresa

[vital kelp]

how much can i brute force

[abstract mauve]

i had some fun with astgenne2 xingzhu and silence2 with hand and +350 aspd. if you plan to brute force it's rather uhhh simple

[fathom plaza]

was there an OP that buffs atk for guards by being brought like eyja with mod x does for casters?

[odd sky]

no, pepe needs deployment

[vital kelp]

i have 10k attack logos i think i can try brute force

although i didnt get cup for aspd

[abstract mauve]

i believe you should be able to surely

[odd sky]

wildmane is -dp on deploy as well

[obtuse obsidian]

use blue femboy to drag him away from his sister

[vital kelp]

i havent raised mizuuk yet

[obtuse obsidian]

stop playing IS until you do then :realmad:

[odd sky]

raise her smh

[vital kelp]

blyat

[wraith sentinel]

https://tomimi.dev/en/recruit
(This site is quite handy to check, in this case the filter would be Ally Buff > Other > Squad Buffs.)

[polar hollow]

hi is /material updated?

[ancient current]

it's up to date so far

[odd sky]

yea cyclicene is ch16

[vital kelp]

wait what now, did he just die?

[odd sky]

i guess so

[abstract mauve]

uhhh that seems to be it

[vital kelp]

damn ok this is easier than i thought

[abstract mauve]

it is rather easy yeah. there's schizo tech if you have a worse run but ye

[vital kelp]

bro couldnt resist 10k attack offskill walter

[odd sky]

this is official server see channel rule #5

did you buy it already?

[shadow bay]

can you show who u can pick instead in the selector? that would be easier

[odd sky]

i wouldn't buy tbh
your acc is fine
it's either ascalon/logos/mon3tr

[rustic pecan]

is there any events i should do before the lappland alter rerun for context?

[vital kelp]

choices are ascalon, logos, mon3tr, ines

arguably naran one tier lower

[shadow bay]

ahh if u buy it something like.... ascalon ray or monster

[shadow bay]

seems like #ak-lore would answer you better in this regard

[odd sky]

il siracusano i guess

[unreal fable]

who to build next, silverash?
https://www.krooster.com/u/faith-purple-owl-06pi

is there a good helidrop? is red or utage a good one?
i should also get gleen2 for extra anti air?

[odd sky]

kaltsit imo
and e1 purestream for base

[wraith sentinel]

Personally I like Utage a lot but she does require investment and even then can be statchecked by a lot of Elites. Still, as a 4* not too expensive.

[odd sky]

do you feel lacking in anti-air? you have pram2

[worn drift]

how many IS run is that for lvl85 raidian

[unreal fable]

days...

[odd sky]

ikr bro's grinding

[unreal fable]

somehow i cant full clear annihilation, maybe just still issue

[vital kelp]

whats quilon ending boss ship trajectory

[odd sky]

oh hmm kroos og skill level is 1

[vital kelp]

and is leaking quilon 30 lp or 99

[worn drift]

there is yt channel where they solo (mostly, not really) using pram2

[odd sky]

see tomimi

[unreal fable]

let me get em up to lv7

[undone portal]

straight across whichever row its in. they travel over the tiles around the middle to give you an opportunity to ferry ranged ops over

[unreal fable]

yeah somehow i leaked at the end, maybe i didnt have the mod for extra damage, or lv1 kroos skill..

[vital kelp]

wb ground, i wanna try sakiko solo quilon

[undone portal]

leaking quilon is only 30lp. theres even a lore file unlocked for doing so

theres also ground tiles they pass over. you should have ample opportunity to ferry everyone you want in phase2 as long as you dont accidentally kill the boats

[rustic pecan]

gotcha thx. i just dont want to get shot by a spoiler

[vital kelp]

is quilon flying? why cant i hit him

[undone portal]

hes invincible until he lands and starts moving

[worn drift]

yeah the skill kinda important and its not that expensive considering u have run IS many time u should have enough mats

[past cove]

Bro "if Mujica members attack range overlap with sakiko's, it will be treated as an extension of her own" why the hell doesn't it work half the time?

[worn drift]

maybe its not overlap

[undone portal]

their range has to overlap with sakikos original range, not just adjacent

[odd sky]

are you overlapping on skill active range

[worn drift]

and u cannot overlap with the extended range, just the original

[past cove]

I figured it would be that, but I am like 90% sure I got it extended way past her extended range

[undone portal]

original range does count the range extension sakiko gives herself through s3, but not the extension other band members give to her

[odd sky]

[undone portal]

you can extend it pretty far if you account for both her onskill range and theirs

[past cove]

Does it undo itself once it ends?

[hidden wolf]

Should i save or buy the pulls with yellow tickets?

[undone portal]

yes, theyre not onskill anymore

[worn drift]

save till 258 if u mean gold cert

[dark prism]

save until 258 to buy the whole set

[hidden wolf]

I got 258

[undone portal]

good idea to buy the pulls if you need more funds for future banners

[worn drift]

buy it then

[hidden wolf]

Is there any good ops coming soon

[worn drift]

wang

[undone portal]

wang/ch'3n in 3months, kal'alt in 6

[hidden wolf]

No i mean the shop, coming to the shop

[worn drift]

generally its better to buy pull instead of op

[undone portal]

we'll have ray/zuo le/ascalon/logos/ulpianus gauntlet fairly soon. pulls are still more worth if it means getting wang

[hidden wolf]

Did they come in china

[vital kelp]

whats quilon hp/def in second phase? i forgor to ship a medic through lmao

[undone portal]

erm. a lot

[vital kelp]

yellow cert dont follow china schedule

whats quilon 5 attack thing? i think sakiko might die

[odd sky]

ded

[undone portal]

our schedule doesnt follow theirs precisely, but their shop debut order is roughly the same. they just got to ray about a month ago

[vital kelp]

would she live

🥀

[hidden wolf]

Is ray good

[undone portal]

think lemuen + bind, - aoe

[hidden wolf]

I want ascalon or mont3r

[dark prism]

Sure, but maybe not main pick for certs

[obtuse obsidian]

432000 hp (d0) , 2 millions if max d

def always at 2400

[vital kelp]

@odd sky ok she lived the 5 hit

[worn drift]

what chap to unlock amiya medic?

[vital kelp]

and killed quilon, yay

[dark prism]

14

[junior hull]

Which mod should I pick for mumu?

[worn drift]

if I do the story chap with story environment can I still progress thru chap and unlock amiya medic?

[gentle dove]

Just do adverse

[undone portal]

do adverse and save yourself the time

[shadow bay]

iirc yeh... i dont recall amiya forms needing strictly standard or above to clr

[worn drift]

my sanity is gone

[gentle dove]

Wait

What do you want medicmiya so desperately for

[undone portal]

then wait. if you play story mode now youd have to go back and play adverse eventually anyway

[hidden wolf]

Is medic amiya good? Why are u tryna get her

[little lily]

is there any possibility as a noob i can clear sui guided tour 2 to get the raidon to e2 for free

[gentle dove]

I've heard she's best miya but yeah, if you'll get her might as well go for adverse

[worn drift]

I want to spend my sanity on side story for now

[undone portal]

shes decent in is. not really worth chasing after unless youre already an is nerd to begin with

[shadow bay]

tragodia borrow should still work on lower diffs vs yi yeh

[gentle dove]

Spend your sanity
Wait up and go adverse

[obtuse obsidian]

maybe he want to use the cute skin he bought so he chasing her, its not always meta reason for such actions

[little lily]

thanks

[wraith shoal]

medic amiya skin was in shop ages ago

[hidden wolf]

Dont u need e2 amiya to unlock the stages for new amiya

[glass mural]

Nodnod

[little lily]

not an is nerd but i am a rougelite nerd and this is the first time i have had to level charcters before being able to play the rougelite and thought have a raidion e2 maxed out would be nice for future is missions without expending recources since i am still leveling my base

[wraith shoal]

just be aware that for IS, a leveled raidian is not enough. You must get her proficiencies as well

[undone portal]

i meant this about medicmiya. raidian is worth chasing after if youre new

[gentle dove]

They're talking about Amiya. Raidian is the best is6 op basically

[worn drift]

they talking about medic miya

[little lily]

Oh whoops my bad

[worn drift]

u can follow the guide in #is-station pin
they have a beginner progression iirc to max out raidian

[glass mural]

Raidian is stupidly good for the low low cost of, play the game.

She won't be a staple when your account is developed, but when you're new, or if you're doing welfare only runs? Easily one of the biggest contributors to clearing stages.

[little lily]

I figured as much just thought an e2 maxed out would also help with story to get to the point to get more materials for building up other operators as well

[little lily]

Thank you will do

[undone portal]

building raidian is the immediate priority if youre interested in playing is6, she has so much qol packaged into her proficiencies
having a free e2 6star summoner for gen content early on is also really nice

[wraith shoal]

e2 max might be kinda hard to get if you're newer tbh

[undone portal]

e2max raidian is kinda just a natural result of grinding is6. not too difficult

[gentle dove]

My acc is currently 5 months old and even now, 4 months after getting Raidian, she's still seeing use (recently in my S-OS-5 or whatever it's called she was key). So yeah. Also nice to trust farm some stages (like chips) by having her solo them

[undone portal]

her masteries take some focused effort, but youll get there

[wraith shoal]

masteries and mod requirements are kinda hard for newer players, that's what I'm talking about, not the leveling

[obsidian fox]

Just got the 5 star selector for Ptilopsis, Cliffheart, Lappland, and Spectre (already have E2 spectre). Who else should selector from here?

[undone portal]

ptilo

[obsidian fox]

Ok is she worth the E2 or just E1?

[undone portal]

e1 is fine, e2 your damage first

[little lily]

Yeah i figured as much I just at least wanted the e2 max so there is some resources I can save because I also have tragodia I want to build

[obsidian fox]

Another question, for the general rule for upgrading skills, not mastery, do I max out most operator’s skills?

[wraith sentinel]

The ones you use yes.

[wraith shoal]

the ones who you use

[raw wigeon]

totally doable, just takes some time to learn or you can just learn flower loop and ignore all the other mechanics

[glass mural]

Because poverty. You gotta prioritize.

[obsidian fox]

Ty

[glass mural]

Can't do everything (again, poverty), but you can realistically get a 6 star online from scratch in... 2-4 weeks I think?

[worn drift]

whats this flower loop u talking about.. is it the infinite kettle?

[raw wigeon]

a fairly consistent way to get a kettle run in IS6 D11 or lower

[wraith shoal]

doesnt that take way too much time though

[undone portal]

calling flower loop consistent seems disingenuous when the prerequisite is highrolling ling leisure
theres easier ways to clear d10

[hidden wolf]

Pltosis

[odd sky]

just highroll real

[raw wigeon]

you just need to play flower squad and it doesn't require ling, that's why I said "flower loop" instead of "ling loop"

[vital kelp]

do trees populate on bosky

[undone portal]

trees?

[vital kelp]

trees

trees?

[odd sky]

oh sprouts, yes

[undone portal]

Oh trees
they do

[odd sky]

[vital kelp]

what the flip i didnt get any when i go in

[undone portal]

did we misinfo

[vital kelp]

do i get them when i come back or no u all scammed me

[undone portal]

it doesnt give you a notif, did you count how many you have now

[vital kelp]

i had 70 capped and i have 70 now

yeah nothing when i got out either

[undone portal]

wait wtf we misinfo'd

[worldly fern]

I need pramalter rerun, she never came and instead got like 3 silvers

[vital kelp]

shes never rerunning

[worldly fern]

so how do we get her, offrate?

[frigid stream]

shes standard

[undone portal]

offrate, wait for joint op/orienteering appearances

[vital kelp]

wait 2 years for yellow cert apperance

[worldly fern]

welp

[worn drift]

is hoshi2 gonna be in Kalsit2 banner?

[raven ermine]

No, hoshi is a summer pool limited

[odd sky]

we did, been a while since i played is5
others that increase rarity does increase rarity but sprout doesn't multiply on bosky @vital kelp

[lyric lagoon]

hoshi2 is apart of the carnival pool, not celebration pool

[vital kelp]

😭 mayu they lied to me

[worn drift]

what pool is wang from then?

[raven ermine]

I'm no sprout abuser i didn't even know tbf 🥹

[odd sky]

hey it's been a while ok, and bosky does count as extra floor

[lyric lagoon]

festival pool (cny)

hoshi will be offrate in the next limited banner on cn after kalter

[raven ermine]

CNY pool yeah
I find the festival/carnival thing more confusing than anything ngl

[vital kelp]

we have 3 pools, anni, summer, sui

[stone escarp]

who does mumu copy in stronghold?

[worn drift]

so we got anni, summer, half-anni, sui. is that right?

[odd sky]

random on bench i believe
you can see the clone desc

[raven ermine]

yes, anni and half anni are the same pools

[lyric lagoon]

I find summer cny naming confusing cause that aligns with cn only, and not our schedule

[vital kelp]

half anni and anni shares the same pool

[worn drift]

limited op gonna be in a banner after a year from their debut right?

[vital kelp]

as offrate yes

[glass mural]

The main exception are Collab limiteds.

[worn drift]

any website where I can see list of summer limited op?

[wraith shoal]

pins and wiki

[raven ermine]

Yeah i get that
I'm just used to the cny/summer/celeb way i guess

[lyric lagoon]

pins -> roadless camelot -> limited banner pool

[vital kelp]

so um

theres no way sparking virt is worth right in pram2 banner

unless i hit like 280 pull for pram2?

[odd sky]

pull last day

[vital kelp]

i will, i always do

[odd sky]

is virtuousa the only one missing

[raven ermine]

No, i don't know why there's been such a pushback whenever i mentioned it, but virtuosa really isn't anything special
If anything, she's rather mediocre

[vital kelp]

only one missing when i copy afk guides

yeah menpreg me wilted rose me skull me x me im afk brain coded

[toxic oak]

is phantom worth buildi?

[vital kelp]

oh well, i guess i got much better stuff to pull for afterwards

[odd sky]

not really

[lyric lagoon]

atp just use trag 🥀

[vital kelp]

sometimes they use both

i did s1m3 for trag already

welp, i guess until pram2 really avoids me then ill do it

ill come back when the banner is up

[sharp sandal]

what priority for silverash skill mastery?

[lyric lagoon]

s3> (not recommended) s2

s2 has really low gains so only raise if you have literally nothing else to raise and wanna run sash2 s2 specific team

[sharp sandal]

i just want to print dp fast

[lyric lagoon]

then just do s3

[worldly fern]

so s3 is better overall, you won't need another vanguard?

I always do s2 and another vanguard

[ebon plaza]

prints dp and gets your strongest unit on the field instantly

[worldly fern]

gotta get him to e2 after necrass then

[nova fractal]

Hello I'm sorry to bother you all but I was wondering what I should do now when it comes to my units. Here is my account: https://krooster.com/u/boredweeb I have finally finished E2ing some of the more "important" characters on my account and I was wondering what I do now, do I E2 some of the other characters I have, and if so who? Should I go for masteries since my only M3 character is Wis'adel? A second question I have is who do I want to prioritize getting Modules for? I heard the resource is very rare and you need to be a very endgame player to get it so I don't want to waste any.

[spare jetty]

wis s2m3 but her s2 is usually used in IS pls notice

[dark prism]

The module resources aren't an endgame thing, they're just available in a limited amount.

[spare jetty]

never use s1 for any reason

[vital kelp]

wis s3 > wis s1 for afk

[wraith shoal]

wis s2 for IS> didnt read above messages

[lyric lagoon]

me when rm

[spare jetty]

nuh

[odd sky]

pram2 s2m3
exu2 s2m3 mod1 at least
lemuen e2 s3m3 mod2
see /base and /baseskills in #bot-spam

[nova fractal]

Thank you all very much for the help

[vital kelp]

does sakiko s2 note have infinite pierce

[lyric lagoon]

3 enemies

[ancient sonnet]

Up you current e2s to lvl 60, then Ines/Lemuen

[nova fractal]

Will do, thank you for the help as well.

[ancient sonnet]

Wis s1 was actually a strat to interrupt deers in the last event...

[vital kelp]

how to get maximum ingot from cannot fight

[odd sky]

don't kill too fast

on 75 and 50 % he'll spawn some money thing

[raven ermine]

don't cc him too
Bind is fine, stun is not, idr about fear

[sonic zinc]

Which module is better for Gnosis?

[floral geode]

Since the event is done, what mat should I grind?

[odd sky]

is mod

[vital kelp]

rock

[sonic zinc]

???

[vital kelp]

bro is hilariously low on rock

[floral geode]

Oh well to the rock farm I go ig

[odd sky]

red cert for mod blocka

[undone portal]

mod alpha makes him significantly better in is. other mods are pretty low impact but y is alright in gen content

[floral geode]

how many rocks safe

[vital kelp]

uh, i go for 1000+

[true pagoda]

?????? Why is it not blocking

[vital kelp]

read enemy description of this guy

[true pagoda]

How do i get his deacription up? Clicking him and nothing shows up

[sonic zinc]

I mean, one gives him the ability to apply Enfeeble and increases his Fragile debuff. The other improves his SP recovery, and gives a Kjerag exclusive Resist and ATK buff.

[vital kelp]

outside the stage, next to map info

how does one get to chapter 12 without reading enemy description once

[random shard]

Rarity abuse

[proven kelp]

I barely read enemy description nowadays

[keen scarab]

surrounding tiles = 1 square around her?

[true pagoda]

Yeah i just braindead kill enemies dont needa read usually

[vital kelp]

heh chapter 12 will teach everyone a lesson

[keen scarab]

liskarm

[proven kelp]

Just adjacent tiles

[keen scarab]

ouh..

[hardy otter]

reroll? + other general starting advice, I started this week

[glass mural]

If you're rerolling, gun for Tragodia on the Orienteering banner.

Tragodia is bar none, the best possible result you can reroll for.

[hardy otter]

Okay, good to know

Wait how can you reroll the orienteering banner if it's 6000 and you get 4520

[raven ermine]

You do singles

[proven kelp]

You roll singles

[hardy otter]

ohh

[mint hound]

not worth it ngl

maybe just leave the game for 3 more months and comeback to reroll

[raven ermine]

Brother what

[hardy otter]

what's coming in 3 months 😭

[mint hound]

next limited banner

[broken flame]

The best banner in the game so far

[inner bramble]

does Zuo Le S3 hit air? nvm it doesn't

[mint hound]

Wang? Yea

[wind storm]

Does someone have a magensium cube making talent?

[broken flame]

Yeah Wang and Chen3

[proven kelp]

Telling a newbie to throw away 3 months of progress is certainly a statement

[raven ermine]

Just don't listen to whatever sleep paralysis demon took over that guy, just reroll for tragodia

[mint hound]

Wang*

[broken flame]

just reroll or just play

[wind storm]

the statement isnt totally wrong

[raven ermine]

Oh yeah sorry, forgot chen3 is garbage

[broken flame]

[raven ermine]

Me when the wisadel logos banner is really just wisadel actually

[wind storm]

Wait no ita manganese

[broken flame]

if you got Ulpianus instead of Tragodia and you're tired of rerolling you can also keep the account as consolation

[slim tusk]

are we dissing logos now?
he is not wis but he is borken at his time

[spare jetty]

he has no utils

[raven ermine]

That's sarcasm

[hardy otter]

Okay I see

[broken flame]

nah they just being sarcastic because the other person is dismissing Chen3

[vital kelp]

It’s like wisadel logos banner if logos is actually good

[hardy otter]

also what are the best 5 stars to select from the selectors

[broken flame]

it's in pins, also the beginner guide. Check Roadless Camelot in pins.

[hardy otter]

Thanks

[humble arrow]

theres way too much logos hate being thrown around

[lyric lagoon]

also one of three actually reasonable caster picks (not including niche picks)

[vital kelp]

Do we need reminders that logos is 2 years old

[broken flame]

And Mlynar is

[lyric lagoon]

and also the fact that he’s pretty much the reason why they refuse to make primal archetype good 🥀

[vital kelp]

Was logos even mlynar tier on release

[ebon plaza]

mlynar wasn't mlynar tier until his module either

[slim tusk]

he has more total than pre modded mlynar yes

[vital kelp]

That’s not an answer

[scenic wharf]

me when I wife and use surtr since her release

[broken flame]

Surely 6* Primal Guard will be good

[scenic wharf]

what counts as mlynar tier? dmg? logos had that bfr mod

[raven ermine]

Logos is not even close to the reason they won't make primal archetype "good"
Relying too heavily on synergies is a bad precedent for the game, is all

[broken flame]

Can't wait for a new op that can't move until the other pairing archetype is present

[vital kelp]

Hg when they forced to have 1+1>2

[scenic wharf]

if exalt had no gun and had to wait for jessica to give her one

[vital kelp]

Laterno guns and Jessica guns are different

[raven ermine]

I'm pretty happy with the 1+1 = 1.5
You're free to use synergies if you want to have fun with it, but you don't feel like you're missing out if you don't

[slim tusk]

laterano gun is fraud ye
all r6 can hit air with gun

[mint hound]

at least this game doesn't fall to the category "unplayable without teammates" yet tho

[slim tusk]

blaze unplayable without yu /s

[onyx mango]

Ture

[pulsar halo]

Which is better virtuosa module?

[odd sky]

x

[true pagoda]

Was randomly pulling and got her is she still relevant?

[slim tusk]

nah

[pulsar halo]

Not after pram 🥰

[slim tusk]

unless we get funni stuff like reefbreaker again

[true pagoda]

Better than eyja and ceobe or no?

[pulsar halo]

Better as burst+tank but not as general afk use

[worn drift]

is there any gamemode where Virtuosa good at?

[true pagoda]

Is she good medic?

[cinder hearth]

She can find use in most places not called Integrated Strategies.

[pulsar halo]

Damn I was just about to test her on is2 on the bear

[true pagoda]

Oh got this now too, is she good?

[cinder hearth]

Tragodia is typically better due to the s2, but easy access to elemental injury and bursts isn't "bad" by any means.

Skadi sucks.

[pulsar halo]

Not anymore 😔😔😔

[cinder stag]

is thorns worth getting when i have sakiko or nah?

[cinder hearth]

Nope.

[pulsar halo]

Hasn't been in like,,, 6 years

[cinder stag]

i c, thanks

[true pagoda]

Is she not even better than perfumer or warafin? I dont have good healer

[cinder hearth]

Warf is arguably far more useable than her.

[broken flame]

Use Silence and/or Ptilopsis

[pseudo flume]

She's quite shit

[pulsar halo]

I don't think they have those 2 yet

[pseudo flume]

I can have an excuse for Hibiscus Alt but Vendela has no excuse

[atomic minnow]

new annihilation gives more orundum?

[ebon plaza]

additionally, her being a 5* means she'd be more expensive to raise, whereas a 4* or 3* can do the same job up to e1lvl55 and is far cheaper

[pseudo flume]

The Weekly is tied to the current rotating Annihilation

[pulsar halo]

Warf is better since you have her, sussuro for burst healing, perfumer for global passive heal

[atomic minnow]

i mean from milestones

[pseudo flume]

The previous one only becomes a first clear only

[obtuse obsidian]

no you dont have an excuse for hibi

we only have a shitty one for amiya

[pseudo flume]

Its the same as usual as first clear

[cinder hearth]

Okay but vendela > Hibalt vs ch16 mortars!!

[atomic minnow]

i dont think it was giving 1k orundum as final one

[pseudo flume]

My excuse for Hibi Alt is Medic Knights

Vendela is kinda crippled in her own class niche

[pseudo flume]

Its the same as before

Was it 1k or 1.5k i don't recall honestly

[cinder hearth]

They're somewhat right. Anni rewards vary.

[atomic minnow]

just checked and this one gives more

[cinder hearth]

Some will give less than others.

[pseudo flume]

I thought it was only on the Mats side of things?

[cinder hearth]

No, it's the orundrum side as well.

[pseudo flume]

Oh well, new information acquired

[atomic minnow]

i think this is the only one that gives more

[pseudo flume]

Medic be a dear and count each Orundum from the 33 Annihilations we have rn

[cinder hearth]

You actually caught me in the middle of doing exactly that.

I have finals at 8 am tomorrow so you better be thankful smh

[rain forge]

[hardy otter]

Got him 🔥

[broken flame]

huge

[inner atlas]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/tesco59 what should my friend focus on raising

[cinder hearth]

Okay:
Perma missions have the least - no actual orundrum (non-cherno do give bonus weekly)
Most Hypothetical, older annis have 600 at max. (So this is most practice annis)
Rotating and more recent annis have 1000 at max. (I believe this is part of an increased anni reward update sometime in 2025. Please double check)

The first time the increased 1k max was available was Grand Bazaar, if the wiki is correct. This makes for 3 increased reward annis so far-5 on CN.

[inner atlas]

oops.

[formal shadow]

[neat kayak]

should i prioritize getting S2M3 or mod3 for my pramanix alter? i'm gonna get them both but i wanna know which is more important to get first

[broken flame]

S2M3

[ebon plaza]

ines, logos, no trag mod?, masteries are unfinished, lemuen needs more love, and base slaves

your friend seems to be a mostima fan

[pseudo flume]

Thanks

[pseudo flume]

Trade your Future for the Present trust

[cinder hearth]

Behold, an unthinkable present.

[ancient wind]

Is this the kernel headhunting thing I was told to save my vouchers for?

[magic crag]

How good is gladiaa without ulpianus?

[inner atlas]

yep!

[pseudo flume]

Midling

[cinder hearth]

Pretty poor. She doesn't hit terribly hard.

[ebon plaza]

just an expensive puller

[cinder hearth]

Her skills actually aren't terrible for handling trash waves, but like Mountain, she'll either die or take forever to kill anything tankier/more dangerous.

[magic crag]

Gotcha

I won't build her till i get ulpianus

[raven ermine]

You'd rather not build her at all

[broken flame]

You also don't need to build her even if you get Ulpianus. Unless you specifically want that dmg reduction and regen but eh he can live without it

[ancient wind]

So I got Rosa and Thorns

From my understanding, Thorns is good all around. Is Rosa the same or…?

[obtuse obsidian]

they both sucks actually

thorns sucks slightly less

[broken flame]

both washed 🥀

[ancient wind]

You’re joking.

[buoyant sigil]

Thorns is really really really meh

[cinder hearth]

They're year 1 "good" ops. About 5-6 years of operators have kind of marched past them.

[buoyant sigil]

Very cope option. Theoretically works but maybe consider another operator (absolutely do).

Rosa is bad. Like, really bad. Besieger without the kit to back it up.

[obtuse obsidian]

thorns was really good for a 6 star like 5 years ago

but by today 6 stars standard is below average

[ancient wind]

So this was not the kernel headhunting to use my vouchers on

[broken flame]

Thorns is only fine if you literally don't have anything else

[buoyant sigil]

Nope. Did you use singles?

[ancient wind]

I used all the ones I got from that daily thing

[magic aspen]

ye,it is true

[obtuse obsidian]

i hope this is blue tickets and not yellow ones

[ancient wind]

It was, dw

[buoyant sigil]

If it’s free then it’s a bit better

[ancient wind]

But Astrel has betrayed me

[obtuse obsidian]

ah thats fine then

its not like you will get something that good off kernal

[ancient lintel]

tf did my man astrel do lol

[buoyant sigil]

You could’ve saved them for a good Kernel Locating (which, by the way, mostly the only worth kind of kernel ever), but it’s not all bad. Could have been worse

[ancient wind]

I asked five minutes ago if I should use my vouchers and he reacted with a check mark

[chrome tiger]

Free gold certs are free smh

[broken flame]

Kernel doesn't even give gold certs 🥀

[buoyant sigil]

The thing is that Kernel is generally only gonna have old operators, most of them being… shitty. They don’t age well. I’d figure the best you’d get from Kernel is niche ops good in some specific situations like IS.

[stray gust]

quick question, top ops sniper medic nuker, should I go for kal/ng pot, chen pot, exu/archetto/poca pot, or yolo pot?

[buoyant sigil]

Do you have kal

[rustic pecan]

but mizuki my beloved

[stray gust]

everything is pot except pallas, but I don't think she is in recruit yet

[buoyant sigil]

Go medic, she’s good in IS and your other options are not very good

[hexed adder]

It was changed since grand bazaar, cause they increased gap between active rotation change 13-14 weeks now. Before bazaar 1500 for first rewards, now its like 2300 (at least CN mentioned the reason)

[buoyant sigil]

Even speaking about pots your other options are huge gambles for mid

[buoyant sigil]

Mizuki, also known as “[…] good in some situations like IS.”

[rustic pecan]

but IS is god"

therefore mizuki is worth his weight in gold and he so cute (excluding is3)

[buoyant sigil]

still not using him in general content and some people avoid IS like the plague so I’d consider IS-specific people like him niche

[stray gust]

kal pot

[buoyant sigil]

Better than the ng pot shrug

[hidden nacelle]

IS is the biggest niche so much so it's hardly a niche

[languid swallow]

Im a filthy mizuki s1 enjoyer from time to time

IS is basically the whole gameplay of AK now fr fr

[hidden nacelle]

fake 5 star user

[broken flame]

I'm just waiting for Ascalon to enter shop 🥀

[languid swallow]

Nuh uh I fuck with Snow Hunter

[hexed adder]

Bold of u assuming its for ak

[hidden nacelle]

did you get consent

[buoyant sigil]

dear god each sentence makes it worse

[rustic pecan]

so kal s3 or s2?

[broken flame]

Both

[rustic pecan]

is it not situational?

[buoyant sigil]

S2 tends to be quite good but S3 has the damage that is true and factual iirc

[rustic pecan]

aight then

[stray gust]

both kal would want s2 and s3 m3

[rustic pecan]

which one first tho

[broken flame]

S2 is more commonly used against less threatening stages or stages with lots of mobs. If you plan to use her a lot (and in IS) consider M3 both. But if not, just S3M3 sure.

[stray gust]

maybe esperanda s3 has lower m3 priority, but still

[magic crag]

Kestrel, texas, or pioneer which one should i build?

[buoyant sigil]

None

[chrome tiger]

er neither?

[stray gust]

none if possible, else e2 texas for +2 dp initially

[magic crag]

Dang

[hidden nacelle]

no pioneer except maybe vulois

[chrome tiger]

*fang

[broken flame]

Look towards agents instead

[buoyant sigil]

Pioneers are generally not worth it just use agents yeah
Flagbearers can also do the job

[hexed adder]

*yato

[magic crag]

What about beanstalk?

[buoyant sigil]

If your name is silverash the reignfrost you can also work very well

[rustic pecan]

thx for the help

[buoyant sigil]

Tacticians have abysmally horrid dp generation so I’d say she’s more worth it for her reinforcement utility than her dp not a bad operator though

[magic crag]

I see I see

[buoyant sigil]

You can raise her for IS or something if you really need it. She’s pretty okay in base and works fine in gen content as well

[magic crag]

Should i build cuora and durnar?

[buoyant sigil]

as always though look toward agents (cantabile/surfer) instead of any other vgs

[shadow bay]

cuora if u rly need a cheap to invest brick

[buoyant sigil]

Cuora is much better but generally as per the message above only invest if you really need a cheap-to-raise brick

[rustic pecan]

i mean couldnt u raise her to e2 and pair her with haruka for not dying cuora and so much art damage?

[buoyant sigil]

You could do that with a lot of things that aren’t Cuora as well though

[vital kelp]

tacticians not named closure have abysmally horrid dp gen*

[stray gust]

the joke here is that with closure sash2 and exu2 you can deploy the entire squad within 5 seconds into the stage; your only requirement of other vanguard is pretty much agent in scenario where you don't own them yet.

[rustic pecan]

yeah fair point.

[buoyant sigil]

-3 dp woman scary

[rustic pecan]

but think about the IS. she is so cheap in hope and get the collectible and shes free

[stray gust]

or flagbearers, but you need to deploy other ops to block/kill

[bright lake]

what are the farmable mats for lappy alt rerun?

[buoyant sigil]

In IS you would not be relying on haruka arts damage for any stage though 💔 💔

[shadow bay]

/cnfarm in #bot-spam

[rustic pecan]

oh yeah lol. u use steward instead

[stray gust]

mango rma fluid

[shadow bay]

also w8 wut haruka for arts dmg

[frail tree]

Who shall I get?

[rustic pecan]

silverash

[frail tree]

Huh?

[buoyant sigil]

They have him
Wait a second

[rustic pecan]

oh lol im blind, get blaze then

[shadow bay]

toss a die between likes of... saria or thorns

[fathom nest]

Saria would be the best second choice

[magic crag]

Saria

[rustic pecan]

rlly? whats wrong with blaze?

[broken flame]

i'd go for Saria too

[fathom nest]

Blaze sucks

[buoyant sigil]

Blaze sucks

[frail tree]

Wow

[magic crag]

Saria is my queen

[shadow bay]

blaze sucks

[rustic pecan]

she cant be that bad??

[buoyant sigil]

Saria is the go-to ig she lasts more than Mountain

[steady tusk]

How is sa2 and pram2 in is6

[fathom nest]

Both great

[magic crag]

Veri gud

[buoyant sigil]

She absolutely can, and she is

[broken flame]

Even more if you have Gnosis IS mod

[ebon plaza]

lower down the list compared to saria and mountain, also they have specter so centurion coverage is present if really needed

[shadow bay]

pram would be nice yeh, dont recall caster competition in is6

[frail tree]

Saria it is then ,thanks

[buoyant sigil]

Roadless agrees

[bright lake]

wait we're getting another one tomorrow??

[rustic pecan]

im just coping. she is my first 6 star

[worldly fern]

lmao I picked mountain

[magic crag]

Goated

[buoyant sigil]

Nope, that’s beginner rewards information in the document

[magic crag]

Mountain good helped me during patriot fight

[fathom nest]

Mountain only helps early game. Useless late game

[buoyant sigil]

To be fair he’d definitely be the 3rd pick in my list the others are worse

[bright lake]

i am a beginner ! i nub

[fathom nest]

Same situation as Blaze. Except he lasts a bit longer

[stoic quartz]

which SilverAlter skill to m3?

[fathom nest]

3

[broken flame]

S3

[scenic wharf]

if sa2 is used in CC is it just for the fragile on s3?

[buoyant sigil]

I think that essentially being a vanguard without dp gen kind of helps him last further as well as he’s cheap and can act as a body in some cases

[fathom nest]

Cheap deploy, self sufficient. Helps a lot

[buoyant sigil]

The more expensive you are and the less utility you have the more is demanded of you to justify usage so ye

[bright lake]

where does Nasti rank? is she worth pulling?

[stoic quartz]

the silverash alter skill that does a dmg wave, that dmg changes based on the deployed ops?

[fathom nest]

Niche buffer. Not really

[broken flame]

based on the ops atk

[bright lake]

what about titi?

[buoyant sigil]

Niche and does not justify usage spending resources especially for beginners, you won’t find much use for her
Titi is okay utility but niche and not worth either especially because wang is right after

[opaque epoch]

is crownslayer worth raising

[fathom nest]

Sleep is useless, mediocre damage and no AoE

[pseudo flume]

Not particularly unless you want to do something related to stun

[buoyant sigil]

Unless your name is “sleepknights #1 fan” just don’t bother w titi ig

[bright lake]

kk ty

Nasti' s3 ranged tile doesnt last an indefinite amount of time does it?

[magic crag]

What 4* are good for IS6? (tryna get e2 radian with atleast rank7 on her skills)

[opaque epoch]

luo xiaohei, purestream, windscoot

mostly because they fulfill yan requirement in doubt

[buoyant sigil]

iirc it does but it takes an eternity to finish being built and it’s not as useful as you may think

[fathom nest]

It does. Takes a while to build, has HP

[buoyant sigil]

She’s just unnecessary shrug

[fathom nest]

The building part of it has stages, you can put an op on it before it's "complete"

[magic crag]

Pretty anti climactic

[opaque epoch]

i mean they're also pretty decent as well, purestream has a good heal range, windscoot is good for early floors

not that you'd e2 them, just e1 max level

[bright lake]

how long does it take?

[pseudo flume]

Pretty good choices for a 4 ⭐

[bright lake]

whoaaa perfumer alt s2 is actually quite good, no?

[pseudo flume]

[bright lake]

oh nvm its not permanent, its helidrop LMAO

[pseudo flume]

She's a sad state to be in rn

Look at Socks, he's become more wilted since Perf2 drop

[raw wigeon]

you can just do something like Sussuro+Hummus and not bother with the Yan lock. After dlc1 there are always two 1-relic options for doubt and you can very likely clear one of them. That's good enough to complete the Raidian missions easily.

[dark delta]

what are some 5 star or 6 star alt for pinecone ?

[pseudo flume]

Hummus yes, Sussuro you don't take her over Purestream

[raw wigeon]

purestream sucks at pathfinder fight

[fathom nest]

50 SP required, 1 sp per second (2 if skill is active)

[pseudo flume]

5 stars you don't bother, 6 stars is Chen2

[pseudo flume]

I think she does pretty fine tbh

Well tbf my Purestream is at E2 Lvl40 S2M3 Mod3

[odd sky]

skill is 17 initial 25cost 15duration at m3
50s device on field

[dark delta]

tbh I want bcz of IS, I got quite a few upgraded e2 6 starts but only 3 4 star e2 and 2 5 star e2

[robust thistle]

you dont draft *5 in IS anyways

well, you do sometimes, but those are the exceptions

[raven ermine]

Well you draft the good ones
Not the pinecone downgrades

[dark delta]

can someone tell me which ops to upgrade then 4 star/ 5 star

I also got a few lvl 1 6 stars which I dont know if they are good

[robust thistle]

let me do some divination to see what you have

[pseudo flume]

Show le Krooster

[dark delta]

thank you, wait forgot the name of the website fahhh

[raven ermine]

Astrelgpt now comes with anticipative AI

[pseudo flume]

Ask Kerf instead

Kerf is a prophet that can predict when a scam link appears

[dark delta]

https://www.krooster.com/u/vain

[robust thistle]

who do you think sent those scam links

[robust thistle]

1. fix your base and base workers
2. haruka is a good raise
3. start working on module and masteries

[odd sky]

just surfer for IS

[robust thistle]

if you want IS raise
beanstalk humus utage roberta
maybe quartz

[fathom nest]

[pseudo flume]

Where's the Masteries, Why is Haruka unraised, Where's the Base Slaves

[dark delta]

hmm I know on the third one,
what does haruka do ?
What do you mean fix base ? whats wrong with it.

Also I wanted some upgrade reccomendations for IS

[robust thistle]

she heals

[dark delta]

Story problem, im in chapter 9

[odd sky]

see /base and /baseskills in #bot-spam

[pseudo flume]

Haruka is the best healer atm
Base mean you need to optimise it better to not be poor

[raven ermine]

You're not nearly at the point of raising 5* for IS yet

Raise your baseslaves asap, check your base while you're at it #bot-spam /base and /baseskills

e2 haruka/doro
Work on masteries/module as kerf said
Outside the 4* that were mentioned to you already, may, purestream, gummy are good too

[robust thistle]

your base workers arent raised, so naturally I would think that your base isnt properly built yet
if your base arent making 40k LMD and 20k exp per day then its not "proper"

[vital kelp]

what if i tell u im making less exp than 20k every day

[raven ermine]

click also
Indigo if you plan to e2 something but that's not your prio at all

[raven ermine]

I really really hope you're farming AO then

[pseudo flume]

Mayu preaching the Ranged Ethan Tech

[raven ermine]

indigo good

[pseudo flume]

I prefer Blue ngl

[wispy peak]

which bagpipe module is better?

[robust thistle]

x
but is not modding her an option

[odd sky]

modless

[frigid stream]

Is viy better then ebenholz

[raven ermine]

lol no

[pseudo flume]

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