help

[reef sparrow]

1000% bait ngl

[wintry steppe]

Do y'all think he's just baiting us or he's using account from someone else as newcomer

[hidden nacelle]

as with almost every mode in the game, yes

[jaunty heron]

What does this mean?

[ebon pier]

I lowkey ain’t baiting yall I’ve played this game for over 2 years casually

[undone portal]

use workshop and disassemble carbon sticks into furniture parts

[wraith shoal]

You're tripping on something while playing then idk

[hidden nacelle]

if your on mobile games not being actively used get stopped pretty quickly to save processing power, just do you yt music stuff faster and you should be fine...

[jaunty heron]

Ah thanks

[hidden nacelle]

I think you should search up beginner fundamental guide

[wintry steppe]

He probably abandon lower rarity at level 1

[rocky pilot]

Oldest sui, terrorist, veteran with a different gear, good enough medic, best agent, rare type of a species and a elite op, former champion, sniper with high pain tolerance, a melee medic, arsonist, 6th sui sibling, R6 op

I sure hope as shit doesn’t work clearing

[maiden ravine]

i just switched it for a minute and it still ended

[ebon pier]

Yall clowning me fr hol up im gonna lock in this dum ahh stage

[hidden nacelle]

wait wasn't kirin yato more than 2 years ago

[rocky pilot]

Yes

[hidden nacelle]

uhh I try to keep it under 5-10 seconds usually

[undone portal]

-# oh i can see the garden from here

[spare jetty]

sounds like a bought acc

sorta

[hidden nacelle]

might be worse than growing w*ed

[undone portal]

humbly homegrown perhaps

[rocky pilot]

Or is he the little brother that found out about his older brother’s abandoned account

[sharp vector]

Hi guys, quick question, do the IS modules still give the base stat boosts outside of IS?

[hidden nacelle]

yeah the smol ones

[sharp vector]

Gotcha ty ty

[undone portal]

-# ange is mod is best for her dps regardless of environment ya

[ebon pier]

Ya that’s why I said more than 2 cause I took a lot of long breaks

Yall can believe me now

[rocky pilot]

Go oil those rusty knowledge

[hidden nacelle]

proud of you timmy

[undone portal]

just clean the rust off and youll be fine no reason you cant beat this entire event

[maiden ravine]

current selector headhunting banner is bait? only have 1 out of 6, swire alter

[undone portal]

very bait. do not forget we have wang in 3months

[hidden nacelle]

ulpi trag vs 3 month wait

[split sphinx]

Yes. Only 2 really good units so you have to pick 1 filler 🥀

[rocky pilot]

Ulpi is out for gold certs sooner or later anyways
Tragodia? Just wait for his rerun

[hidden nacelle]

zuo le is goated

[split sphinx]

He's aight

[quartz imp]

will the same skins be in the shop when the event gets rerun?

[rocky pilot]

Amiya, I am not approving this relationship you have with zuo le

[undone portal]

real and true. pull this banner for blazealt like a real burnslopper

[raven ermine]

Ori so real for that 🤝

[opaque remnant]

Blazealt for misery bait on next vector

[proven kelp]

A real burnslopper already own them during Yu banner

People who pull now are frauds

[undone portal]

not my fault she dodged me last year 🥀 i even sparked nian

[raven ermine]

We always accept newcomers in the cult

[maiden ravine]

i couldn't care less for wang honestly, but i do also want exu alter

[rocky pilot]

Should have given her noodles

[undone portal]

if you want exu then youve got 6months to prep. she enters spark shop with kal'alt/closure banner

exu isnt on wang banner at all, for reference

[maiden ravine]

i am fully aware if it, dw

[ebon pier]

Is wang pretty good or something

[split sphinx]

Wangsadel

[undone portal]

does someone with wis'adel range and significantly better damage sound good to you

[opaque remnant]

So you know wis’adel right, what if we made wis’adel a global nuke

[ebon pier]

mmmm I see

[opaque remnant]

That’s how you sum up wang

[ebon pier]

So wang is a must pull then

[undone portal]

only downside is that he doesnt have camo like her so you need to be a little more careful
you should already be used to keeping ranged ops alive tho

[silent pendant]

and he does arts damage so he doesn't have the weakness wisadel has of getting walled at really high end enemies

[rocky pilot]

Also reminder has res ignore

[undone portal]

to be specific, he has arts damage and 39res ignore

[split sphinx]

No one is a must pull. But I'd say it's pretty stupid to just skip him

[silent pendant]

yes that too but i like to act like he only violates the geneva conventions four times instead of seventeen

[undone portal]

hes a new kuroblood op so already a must pull on that basis alone

[opaque remnant]

Geneva convention? It’s merely a suggestion

[ancient lintel]

Wis will rise again with delta mod trust

[opaque remnant]

It’s not like wis becomes shit

[tardy urchin]

b-b-but undeployable tiles.... (his talent lets him place traps on uneployable tiles too )

[ancient lintel]

Ye ye ik but I really really really want a DEF shred mod for wis

[opaque remnant]

Wait for the 6 star corrosion ritualist

[silent pendant]

im gonna be real bro she needs to have at least ONE weakness

[undone portal]

make do with wis'adel/botanik tech for now

[ancient lintel]

Nah wifeadel should not have any weaknesses, she must be perfect

[silent pendant]

actually nvm if it means potentially allowing her to compete with the fuckass trapmaster sure

[undone portal]

-# corrosion seems like a fun idea for an ines mod delta actually

[rocky pilot]

I will held the artist at gunpoint and nerf her assets

[opaque remnant]

Wait and see

We got a shitton of experimental archetypes for the next 6 months, just need to wait for their 6 stars

[undone portal]

still waiting patiently for the skyranger

[knotty wave]

wis have a weakness, she explodes from any global aoe attacks

[karmic turtle]

I got Tragodia in 40+ and Zuo Le in 35+ pulls guys dis so worth it

[opaque remnant]

Wis when damage reflect

[undone portal]

#salt-mines thataway

[rocky pilot]

Wrong channel

[opaque remnant]

Are you asking a question? If not #salt-mines

[knotty wave]

thats more like everyone though

[opaque remnant]

Exu2 pulls up with the comically large shield

She doesn’t get oneshot unlike Wis

[undone portal]

tbf flingers suffer particularly bad because theyve got multihit baked into their autos

[raven ermine]

Yeah not everyone has 3 hitcount per auto

[foggy wraith]

Hi, was wondering if any of those expéditions are worth grinding for the operator or anything else ?

[candid badger]

yes, material/LMD without sanity

[opaque remnant]

Grind them for the mats

[undone portal]

is6 is worth it for raidian
all of them are worth it for the free materials

[hidden nacelle]

grind IS6 for Raidian --> only use Raidian in IS6

[foggy wraith]

Well, fair enough mats is Life

[foggy wraith]

Why using her in IS6 ?

[knotty wave]

is6 currently have the best welfare operator among all IS

[undone portal]

raidians awesome in gen content tho

[opaque remnant]

Your strongest operator for IS6

[hidden nacelle]

half of her buffs only work in IS6

she's like decent outside of it especially for undeveloped accounts

[undone portal]

is6 currently has the best welfare operator, period

[opaque remnant]

Isn’t tin man considered good for welfareknights as well

[hidden nacelle]

vigil is actually better in b*se

[foggy wraith]

I mainly use wis in IS6 and finished once diff 0 so far

[knotty wave]

not as useful as raidian

[hidden nacelle]

not bad but pales in comparison to raidian

[undone portal]

bryophyta is the real welfare baseworker goat

[foggy wraith]

Ah alright i see

[formal shadow]

I am obligated to say e0 vigil is scam in base

[foggy wraith]

Whats so strong about raidian, shes e1 max level so far

[opaque remnant]

When your DPS options tend to be abyssmal, yeah that makes sense

[undone portal]

e0 vigil is indeed a scam
putting e0 anyone in reception really

[ancient lintel]

Her alpha mod

[formal shadow]

me when they look at vigil base skill and place him e0 not knowing e0 vigil < e1 gitano

[undone portal]

if you want a welfare reception room worker, miksaparato is right there

[silent pendant]

she's cracked in IS6 cuz you can get her for free at the start of any run with special squad and she can get her summons out with no deploy cost and for 2 dp

kinda just aight everywhere else

[formal shadow]

just have fia :ya:

raidian has like 6 talents in IS6

[rocky pilot]

What is mechanist kit in stronghold again

[formal shadow]

it's garbage that's all I know

[undone portal]

protector defender, focuses on dealing arts reflect damage
functionally kinda just a worse nian

[opaque remnant]

Avoid drafting if possible

[rocky pilot]

Damn hopefully when he’s in IS gonna be something

[undone portal]

theyll give him the raidian treatment and make him busted for the is7 debut for sure

[formal shadow]

he'll definitely have a different kit

[foggy wraith]

Oh okay didnt know, should I use her S1 or 2 ?

[rocky pilot]

Wait a minute what’s misery kit

[undone portal]

i wouldnt be surprised if they even change his subclass to arts protector

[opaque remnant]

He’s utterly useless and you shouldn’t pick him

[silent pendant]

s2 most cases

s1 if you need to like stall a boss or something idk

[formal shadow]

you can just look it up on wiki: https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Misery

[foggy wraith]

Alright thanks mate !

[formal shadow]

I don't know what leveling is so I never experienced these temp ops :clueless:

[rocky pilot]

I just refresh

[formal shadow]

Barge stays at 1

[undone portal]

ideally you use your borrow slots to get the temp ops out of your list in stronghold. all of their kits are worse than the real ops theyre subbing in for

[formal shadow]

they are filler but they have generic ass kit

[mint prawn]

whts a good pick

[undone portal]

trag/ulpi/zuo, but you shouldnt be pulling here

[rocky pilot]

Wait…

Oh shit how much pulls can I still get in 3 months

[undone portal]

expect 150-200 range every 3months, assuming f2p budget
increase if you use op/certs on pulls

[rocky pilot]

Time to drag my ass out grinding op

[lethal sundial]

Is kaltsit available in recruitment?

[hidden nacelle]

wait what if they are saving monhun2 for IS8 and we get monhun IS

[neat kayak]

should i save up for wang if i already have a mod3 m3 tragodia?

[coarse notch]

dont see how those are related but yes

[undone portal]

twould be peak

[hidden nacelle]

you should save up for Wang no matter what even if you have every op pot6 e2 90 m3 mod3

[lethal sundial]

I think hes worth it no matter who you have

[neat kayak]

aren't they both focused on crowd control?

[ancient wind]

Hate to sound like a broken record, but considering how sacred y'all treat E2, I'ma keep asking. Who's next?

https://www.krooster.com/u/commanderketchup

[undone portal]

they fill completely different roles, no reason not to pull for wang

[ancient lintel]

This would be cinema

[coarse notch]

wang's cc is extremely strong but hes mostly used as a nuker

[undone portal]

^ wang is focused on damage and more damage
getting wang to have good cc means swapping him over to s2, which isnt the usual play

[neat kayak]

oh

[coarse notch]

in fairness his s2 is cracked as well

but you'll be using s3 most if not all the time

[undone portal]

raise frostleaf/conviction/vermeil to e1 for base first
then work on pramalt

[ancient lintel]

Pram2 > sash2 > haruka imo

[undone portal]

yea, definitely not saying wang s2 is bad, theres just an opportunity cost in using him as a cc tool when s3 exists

[ancient lintel]

Btw finish your trag dawg

[ancient wind]

Raise to what level? E1 or E2?

I’m not so invested in base stuff that I’d do an E2 on a base slave

[undone portal]

i see a matsukiri raise in progress so a finished trag will just be lv60 mod1

[rocky pilot]

I am going out

[undone portal]

i did say e1

[ancient wind]

I’m blind and tired.

Also, I like how the limited operator has lower priority, lol

[undone portal]

base takes priority above all :true:

[lethal sundial]

Is it possible to get kaltsit from specific tag combo or to tag only?

[ancient wind]

You must sacrifice your firstborn to get her

[coarse notch]

top op summon

[undone portal]

top op + summon guarantees her
otherwise shes just in medic/healing/ranged pools

[ancient lintel]

Do not trust medic pool

[rocky pilot]

500 shining

[ancient lintel]

That's what happened to me ya

[undone portal]

medic pool is improved by kals presence
inb4 you get shining anyway

[lethal sundial]

Where can i get alot of expedited plans?

[shadow bay]

u mostly get them in... dailies weeklies and credit shop

[steep chasm]

Is it better to wait for off-event to do most EX/S CM?
Since they don't offer event currency.

[opaque remnant]

Slow supporter pool seems worse, since any time it’s suggested I always see people get magallan

[vital kelp]

they literally not available after event end

[steep chasm]

eventually

[still surge]

tips for 12-17?

[robust thistle]

I mean we dont know where you failed so

[still surge]

the start with no dp :(

[sterile stag]

Break crates, kill enemies

[neat acorn]

😭

[still surge]

me rn

[opaque remnant]

That doesn’t explain anything

[neat acorn]

He is right tho

[opaque remnant]

Screenshot the map or something

And #strategy should be more helpful

[still surge]

ah i thougt i was there. that explains alot thx

[sterile stag]

It's one of those where you have ~15 dp limit if you don't break crates

Maybe try borrowing sash2 with s3 if you don't have him, it should help deploy your dps near instantly

[neat acorn]

Break the ones expect the two blocking the middle

[still surge]

i had him on s2. i swapped him over and now have cleared up enough that it should be good from where im at

[neat acorn]

S2 propaganda

[still surge]

god i love wis

[delicate locust]

what r these icons?

[old valley]

whos the best damage buff operator?

or at least one of

[pliant summit]

Skalters whole thing is S2 buffing everyone but she’s getting old idk if there’s any better options nowadays

[untold gale]

is Kal'tsit even good anymore or am im building her for enjoyment like thorns alter

[tiny chasm]

enjoyment

[plain siren]

who's the best choice here

[untold gale]

pins

[tiny chasm]

NVM

[lunar apex]

[tiny chasm]

straight up buff? wafarin prob

[hoary ruin]

Mont3r is the best offensive buffer. But she buffs aspd rather than atk.

The most accessible buffer for attack specifically is Warf.

The meta kinda moved away from buffers in general because you're better off just fielding another DPS in that slot if you have one.

[lofty vale]

Mon3tr works because she buffs while doing literally everything at the same time

[hoary ruin]

Yeeeep good old role compression

[daring helm]

do i lose this if i enter the next floor without combat

[steep chasm]

Caper hits really hard at only 12 DP.
And has one of the most charming EN voice actors by far.
Versatile range.
Mostly better than Brigid.

Contrail is strong against flyers, yes;
but she's also great for sending into dangerous territory with little backup,
due to insane skill cycles (15/30).
.
Pairs nicely with Perfumer across the map.
Surprisingly high defense on ground too (479).
Better than Tippi.

Both are very high-tier for 4*.

[knotty wave]

she also gives 15% atk

[hoary ruin]

Ah heh. I forgot about that part of her kit because the ASPD buff is the only thing that gets mentioned most of the time.

[robust thistle]

yes

[pale tapir]

people here also keep getting mad when I mention she's a bit of an atk buffer too

[knotty wave]

the mod makes it 25% atk but i think the future 2nd mod have more potential

[hidden nacelle]

people as in one monst*r hater

[robust thistle]

eyjaberry 2nd mod is still not worth yeah?

[earnest mica]

any banners good to summon on for beginners rn?

[robust thistle]

are you rerolling

[coarse notch]

only if you're rerolling

[hidden nacelle]

if you don't mind rerolling I'd hit up oreinteering

[daring helm]

if i keep the voucher, will it still have the temp 6 star when i get to the next pathfinder node?

[earnest mica]

who am I going for in that banner

[coarse notch]

tragodia

[hoary ruin]

Tragodia.

[hidden nacelle]

tragodia >> ulpianus > zuo le

[pale tapir]

see pins

[earnest mica]

alr ty

[light latch]

No, it rerolls temps if you conserve

[earnest mica]

who do I go for 5 star wise in that banner

[robust thistle]

its still a temp voucher, but the operator will get randomized each time

[coarse notch]

surfer/gracebearer/baseline
dont worry about them tho when rerolling your goal is to get trag, anything more is a bonus

[steep chasm]

This really isn't a rerolling game; don't worry about it.

[robust thistle]

I mean they literally asked on who to reroll

[pale tapir]

it's not a rerolling game but if you're rerolling play it right lmao

[earnest mica]

well I wasn't planning on rerolling initially

I just wanted to see who I should be looking out for

[coarse notch]

if you dont want to thats fine, after doing your single pulls on the beginner banner for your guaranteed 6 star, save everything for wang/chen3 in 3 months

[earnest mica]

so none of the other current banners are worth it rn

[coarse notch]

pins -> roadless camelot has a lot of useful info for beginners, including voucher usage, teambuilding, and future banner prio

[daring helm]

well hey, that's fine by me as long as it still has a temp 6 star later. good insurance in case the first temp 6 star in question is like, schwarz or hoshiguma1 or something. thanks

[coarse notch]

not worth for pulling normally correct
fyi the kernel (blue banner all the way to the right) is never worth pulling on and neither is the banner immediately to its left (standard 2 op rotating)

[pale tapir]

if you're wondering about the free kernel pull tickets save them for a better kernel locating
but no should be spent there

[radiant vapor]

Which SA Alter skill should i prioritize for mastery

[ocean mulch]

Who in kernel is actually worth waiting for?

[opaque remnant]

Uhh, kal, mizuki for IS, who else?

[spare jetty]

ange

[rocky pilot]

Gnosis for is as well…

[vale dock]

ros

[thick token]

is there a way to shuffle my friend list or sort by most recently added so it isnt always the same ppl at the top

[hoary ruin]

As a rule of thumb NEVER spend any any Red or gold bits on Kernel. Tickets only.

Everyone in Kernel pool is Niche or worse and not really used in general content. Suzu, Weedy and Ceobe have some applications in high difficulty content.

There are also a few ops with neat IS mods that are fun to mess around with, but that's only valuable IF you really enjoy the mode.

[opaque remnant]

Limited unit

[steep chasm]

Shamare, Warfarin, Ptilopsis, Pluma, Specter

[rocky pilot]

Ahem

[keen scarab]

recently you can favorite your friend support
but no way to shuffle it afaik

[hallow raft]

Which of the upcoming future Ops are worth pulling? Wang, Ch'en Alt2, who else?

[opaque remnant]

Both limited banner, wang and kalter

[vital kelp]

we actually dont know if kalter banner is worth pulling yet

[opaque remnant]

(Do you think that’s going to stop people from pulling)

[hallow raft]

Aight, we have time so it's cool.

[rocky pilot]

She isn’t out in cn yet we’re just waiting

[vital kelp]

that wasnt what they asked is it

[hoary ruin]

Before Wang and Chen3, no one really.

Closure and Kal2 after them. Maybe. I dunno if we have numbers for them yet tho.

[opaque remnant]

Yeah, just wait for the numbers today

[empty ether]

What skill should I use for silverash alter?

[hallow raft]

Aight man, cheers to y'all. Thanks for answering

[vital kelp]

usually takes a while, cn tends to argue for the first 2 weeks if its too strong/too mid/too weak then it takes longer for en to parrot and come to conclusion

[rocky pilot]

Honestly why not just call it ch3n instead of chen3

[hoary ruin]

Zima2's potentally good but, she might be a skip if the limited banner after her is strong enough.

[opaque remnant]

I do

[frozen dawn]

2

[empty ether]

Ty

[coarse notch]

you'll probably use s3 more in general tbh

[opaque remnant]

I swear the 5 stars are more interesting

[hoary ruin]

Yeah SA2 uses 2 most of the time. S3 is also useful if you just want more normal style DP gen.

[rocky pilot]

#help message

[coarse notch]

s3 is useful if you need to open faster ex. in basically every IS stage

[lofty vale]

As if people are not going to pull for Kaltsit and Closure regardless, one of the most anticipated banners in the 7 year history

[hoary ruin]

It was nice to have SA2 on the CM for the last event map because it had double DP cost for guards and defenders. I was able to swap Ulpi's cost with Gravel and deploy him for 5 DP :D

[coarse notch]

still dont see how thats relevant to their question

[vital kelp]

context? they asked if the ops are worth pulling, and the answer is we dont know

[coarse notch]

need to add more people to the dest copypasta

[lofty vale]

That was just the first message I saw when I came in

[rocky pilot]

I find it funny eben getting powercreeped by a welfare
Or is not and I am stupid

[lofty vale]

But yea people have been waiting for Closure for 7 years im surprised she released at all

[lyric lagoon]

why are you acting like that's a high bar

[rocky pilot]

Negative sanity

[shadow bay]

even if that note is true, its not rly a big thing that eben being powercreped

[lofty vale]

I wonder if the aerial block from Kalter is going to be something that matters

[hoary ruin]

Closure becoming playable gives me hope that Talulah will actually be playable some day.

[opaque remnant]

Why sacrifice gravel instead of robot

[lofty vale]

We haven’t seen aerial enemies needing to be blocked thus far

[vital kelp]

that still has no relevancy whatsoever in determining if these ops are worth pulling or not

[lyric lagoon]

all ik is kaltsit just support more frd shenanigans

[hoary ruin]

Good point. I didn't think about using a robot tbh. I'll keep that in mind for the future.

[lofty vale]

Kaltsit and Exu2 combo

[coarse notch]

grub its already been established that they didnt bother scrolling up chill lmao
not yet time for help chat fistfighting

[proven kelp]

Are you sure it's not yet time

[lyric lagoon]

wonder how she'd work for operators that are already displaced from their original position

[lofty vale]

Deploy Hoshi2
Exu 2 Hoshi2
Kalter Exu2 Hoshi2
Exu2 Hoshi2

[coarse notch]

not enough clowns in this circus rn

[shadow bay]

she will be the best true dmg source trust

[rocky pilot]

Right when will the banner be for cn again I didn’t check the date

[shadow bay]

we all know how true dmg is loved by the general masses

[lofty vale]

Considering she’s ranged I hope not or that’s just a Mon3tr power creep

Her utility is already pretty dang strong

[ancient lintel]

I would hope that's not the case, but then again it would be lore accurate

[coarse notch]

iirc someone calculated it out to be 48k true damage and 25.5k healing over 28.5 seconds

[lofty vale]

Lore accurate in a healing pack dealing more true damage than Mon3tr claws?

[lyric lagoon]

unless her s2 cycle is fast, prob not

[coarse notch]

another big part of mon3tr usage in advanced content is her ability to tank massive hits with her hp pool which kal cant so

[opaque remnant]

48k… how much fucking damage is that per shot?

[ancient lintel]

4k8

[coarse notch]

she gets 10 bullets so 4.8k

[lyric lagoon]

wonder how often she applies shield to ops

[ancient lintel]

4k8 DPH lmao
She would go crazy with amo relics in IS6 me thinks

[opaque remnant]

She flies though, doesn’t that make her untargetable for nearly all enemies

[coarse notch]

yes, hence why she cant touch mon3tr in that regard

[opaque remnant]

At least people will use mon3 S2 as intended now

[pale tapir]

monmon can eat shots like it's nothing, takes pressure off her teammates

[lofty vale]

Kal is already innately really strong being flying+ ranged true damage+ Utility in redeploying 2 units

She doesn’t need to also be Wisadel

[ancient lintel]

What if they make her a wis

Or even worse make her a wang

[silent pendant]

well she can't have the last two at the same time so more of a / instead of a +

[lyric lagoon]

hear me out, kal supports aerial blocking cause next 6* will be our long awaited skyranger

[hidden wolf]

What stage is this

[pale tapir]

IW-9?

[coarse notch]

iw-ex-8 i think

[pale tapir]

because no ranged tile row on bottom?

[ancient lintel]

Iw ex 8 ya

[coarse notch]

ex-8 was the one where the dragon advanced diagonally downwards
idk its been years since ive played that stage

[rocky pilot]

It is iw-ex-8
Played it last month I still remember

[opaque remnant]

What even is skyranger

[hidden wolf]

Reed has life stealing?

[pale tapir]

read incantation medic trait

[opaque remnant]

All incantation medics heal by dealing damage

[ancient lintel]

You can think of it like that

[opaque remnant]

How did I mix it up with abjurer…

[rocky pilot]

Unfortunately she’s a draco not a vampire

[ancient lintel]

But ye since they heal proportional to the arts dmg they deal, ya know what happens when they're against stuff with 70+ res right

[coarse notch]

stealing ❌
to each according to their needs ✅

[ancient lintel]

Haruka brainrot

[opaque remnant]

Wis’adel of healing

[rocky pilot]

I can see your mind as 10 harukas 2d png images are circling around you

[ancient lintel]

Aight now I saw haruka T posing

[crisp loom]

The new event is like magic chess gameplay right? Arknights style?

[formal shadow]

sorta ye

[ancient lintel]

It's TFT

[crisp loom]

Is this like unli staged? Been playing awhile and not sure if its gonna end so i just quit

[slender temple]

Snow hunter last pot or let it convert

[pale tapir]

do u need certs more or mats more
u decide

[reef sparrow]

u only get 5 gold cert since not max pot, let it rot

[pale tapir]

5 certs is 5 certs

[slender temple]

Already have like 360 ish atm so I guess let it rot

[humble arrow]

Pot if ur pot 6

[rustic pecan]

Is 200 pulls about 120k orundum?

[slender temple]

It's pot 5 unfortunately

[wraith shell]

I just read the pinned section for this orienteering banner is zuo le really that better of an operator generally than blaze?

[humble arrow]

Materials arw whatever tbh

[rustic pecan]

Thanks!

[lyric lagoon]

blaze's job majority of the time is bait 💀 other than that her s3 just does some burst dmg

[pale tapir]

blazeter is aggressively mid
her primary use is usually being really tough ranged bait and burnslop enabler

[wraith shell]

I see thanks

[humble arrow]

The new pramanix is pretty good bait asw

[torn elbow]

What specifically does this do

[pale tapir]

lets you change your game name

[robust thistle]

changes your doctor ID?

[torn elbow]

Ok

[rustic pecan]

Should I attempt to pull for Ulpi/tragodia? I have 178 pulls I think. That or should I hold off for wang and chenn3? I have neither ulpi or tragodia.

[pale tapir]

ig if you count her revive as bait stuff
blazeter having 6000 HP barrier and being able to "die" more than once per deployment is more useful imo

[rocky pilot]

You’re better off saving for Sui banner, don’t bother with it

[twilit crest]

does saga's debuff slow stack with other slows because its under a different name?

[rustic pecan]

Is it that good that it’s worth skipping tragodia and ulpanious? Cause from what I heard, both of them are strong

[light latch]

If you use her s3 she has lure and is still a phalanx caster and debuffs enemies with cold/freeze

[rocky pilot]

33% rate
Also ulpipi will be available for gold certs sooner or later sometime, tragodia? Just go and wait for his rerun

[pale tapir]

yes but we're talking about the purpose of being pure bait

[warped bridge]

what are the best medics in game 🤔

[rustic pecan]

How much would ulpipi cost in gold certs?

[robust thistle]

like any other *6
180

[pale tapir]

haruka eyjaberry mon3tr

[rocky pilot]

Literally the same as all the other ones

[light latch]

What part of what i said wasnt related to using her as bait

[warped bridge]

thanks man 👍

[rustic pecan]

Lowkey I don’t check gold certs that much. Would it just be worth to buy more headhunt passes instead of saving for ulpipi?

[robust thistle]

thats up to you

[pale tapir]

how is lure going to help her eat shots
and how is cold going to help her eat shots

[robust thistle]

38 pulls or one guaranteed *6
pick one

[rocky pilot]

Either burn 258 certs for 38 pulls or 180 certs for a good guaranteed 6*
Your move, decide yourself

[light latch]

The bit where the enemies walk past and she exits their atk range

[pale tapir]

??

[rustic pecan]

Thanks for the info! I’ll prolly save up for him cause I need to improve my squad more.

[humble arrow]

The 1k3 defence is what i meant

[knotty wave]

if you plan on sniping a shoperator, save 180
if you plan to pull on a limited banner, buy the 38 pulls

[light latch]

Also wdym how is cold going to help? It debuffs enemy aspd

[pale tapir]

do you know what I mean when I say bait

[humble arrow]

Pram is tanky

[rustic pecan]

Thanks for the help! I’ll go to sleep and think about it afterwards. Rn I’m fried

[pale tapir]

I'm not saying you can't use her as bait I'm just saying for the purpose of baiting blazeter is better at that
in general pramerita mogs her in terms of actually being useful

[light latch]

Apparently not, u wanna explain then?

[humble arrow]

Uh it means high ground tank

[pale tapir]

a bait operator is one that you deploy for the purpose of eating a nasty attack so your other ops don't have to
prime example being gravel
you deploy her, she tanks a fat bit of dmg, and your other ops aren't dead
the cool thing about blazeter is that you deploy her, she can eat a shot, "die", have 6000 barrier, eat more shots, then come back to life to do it all over again

[lyric lagoon]

would you want pram2 to be hit or would you rather blaze2 be hit, that’s the diff

[light latch]

How much def does blaze alter have

[humble arrow]

Like non

Shes just useful for attacks that oneshot everything

[light latch]

Ok how nasty are we talking here

[humble arrow]

Which is everything in high end content so

[proven kelp]

Ahh
Yes, surely Pram2's 260 def during s3 will make her a good bait

[robust thistle]

I mean blaze is just a better bait than pram

like no matter what the context is, blaze is fine with dying multiple times
pram can only say no once

even lin is a better bait than pram

[lyric lagoon]

like, while pram is tankier than the general population of high ground ops (not a high bar tbh), she by no means is gonna tank actual substantial amounts of damage

[proven kelp]

She's only tankier off skill
Which is not doing 90% of the time since she uses s2

[humble arrow]

whos the second best laterano to give lemuen mark?

[light latch]

first being…?

[pale tapir]

exia alt
by virtue of being cracked on her own

[humble arrow]

Im looking for another marker

[light latch]

Is “lemuen herself” an option

[knotty wave]

virtuosa/fedex

[humble arrow]

oh virtuosa is laterano?

[rocky pilot]

The wings and halo in question

[robust thistle]

if youre using arturia as a lemuen marker, something is very wrong

[light latch]

Halo should be a pretty big giveaway i think

[humble arrow]

I dont own her so idk

[knotty wave]

if theyre asking who is the second best marker theyre not playing optimally anyway

[light latch]

lemon + exuialt already covers more than a third of most maps though

[humble arrow]

using exualt is kinda not great because exu alt already kills everything in her general direction

[robust thistle]

and thats a bad thing because

[lyric lagoon]

if you need more marking for some reason, they all work just as well as long as the enemy is within the laterano op’s range

[light latch]

Why is that an issue

[slender temple]

Okay how's that not great

[rocky pilot]

You’re being too nice go kill shit

[lyric lagoon]

oh no, lobster too buttery and steak too juicy…

[silver smelt]

My steak too juicy

[humble arrow]

like she cant mark because stuff is already dead

[light latch]

If the enemy is dead why does it need to be marked

[robust thistle]

and why do you need to mark dead stuff

[knotty wave]

sounds like guy just wanna mark somw1 for the sake of using lemon. Just kill everything dude, no need for this

[silver smelt]

if the dude survived exualt then why bother marking for lemuen at all in the first place?

[robust thistle]

if you just want to mark someone, just bring a lv1 ambriel and be done with it

[humble arrow]

cuz exualt redeploy 70s

[light latch]

have u considered not redeploying her

[robust thistle]

what does that mean

[silver smelt]

idk man just play harder content where exu doesnt one cycle every enemy

[rocky pilot]

Statement so confusing I started speaking in a British accent

[lyric lagoon]

or yk, just do it with lemuen herself, she covers half of most maps anyways

[robust thistle]

and arturia has 7 second redeploy or something?

[formal shadow]

just wait for laterano executor with cs s3 range

[humble arrow]

Lemuen keeps targeting the low def enemies

[robust thistle]

you know shes still gonna do that even with her mark right

[lyric lagoon]

that’s only on her normals, she still marks any elite and boss in her range

[rocky pilot]

[robust thistle]

the mark wont change her targeting

[pseudo lotus]

https://www.krooster.com/u/swift-lemon-yak-84l0

I just e2’d surtr, what should I focus on next? I just pulled zuole wondering if I should work on him now

[humble arrow]

Wait what for real?

[silver smelt]

well no her s3 will still target shit enemies

[humble arrow]

e2 your pram

[robust thistle]

only her S2 says it prioritizes marked enemies

[slender temple]

Her S3 will still target random shit in her range despite the mark

[rocky pilot]

Just use her better

[silver smelt]

they have a valid point there

[light latch]

U could always kill the weaker enemies with someone else

[silver smelt]

if you really want to target 1 enemy and you cant afford to waste s3 bullets on shit mobs then pointing her at the wall is a good strat

[knotty wave]

s3 will target even low def as long as theyre in range. If you want her to just bombard a single guy with s3, make her face a wall and have exu mark the one you want dead

[humble arrow]

alr

[silver smelt]

And if the marked dude dies to exu then ....good? the enemy is dead

[knotty wave]

*if the marked dude dies to exu, you didnt need lemon's s3 to begin with

[humble arrow]

The reason im asking is sometimes I need to mark something but exu dies

[robust thistle]

how is she dying

[light latch]

Dies thru her 250% hp shield?

[robust thistle]

if your exu dies against something that you want to mark, youre doing something wrong

[slender temple]

Let me guess, he didn't use her skill cuz he wanna mark

[silver smelt]

if exu dies who tf is not dying? you want to spend 27 dp on miksa just to mark?

[humble arrow]

thats what im trying to find lol

[robust thistle]

I dont get the thought process here, instead of using exialt to kill the target, you just deploy her to stare at the enemy until lemuen can mark them and possibly kill them

[silver smelt]

the answer is press exu shield button

[robust thistle]

this is like using a pair of pliers to hold a nail clipper to mow a lawn

[silver smelt]

hwatever bro i guess miksa

[humble arrow]

5sp though

[robust thistle]

what are you talking about

[pale tapir]

just have 4sui

[humble arrow]

exu shield cost 5sp

[silver smelt]

and what, she insta dies? wtf are u fighting?

[robust thistle]

you do know that 5sp is shorter than whatever time it takes for lemuen to mark right

[humble arrow]

maybe im just bad and I should stop talking lol

[lyric lagoon]

just tell us the stage and enemy, no big deal

[pale tapir]

they're saying that in the time between deployment and skill ready she dies

[humble arrow]

Thats exactly why exu sometimes isnt good enough

[slender temple]

Okay so what's the stage you're struggling with? This is getting nowhere

[robust thistle]

what are you talking about, why are you dropping her in an enemy's face

[dense walrus]

6-7

[robust thistle]

she has a damn 4x3 range that outranges most ranged enemy

[humble arrow]

Im just bad prolly mb

[robust thistle]

why are you dropping her in the enemy attack range instead of letting them come to her

[silver smelt]

what? she gets her skill up before lemuen can mark. how can this possibly be a bad thing

[light latch]

have you tried placing exusialter 5 seconds earlier

[signal brook]

if you use sa, she can have skill up in 1s, that's probably short enough to survive anything

[silver smelt]

guys probs just baiting

[slender temple]

Is this the bats stage in SA2 event you're talking about?

[robust thistle]

no I think theyre just stupid

[signal brook]

he just seems lost and confused lol

[lyric lagoon]

they’re a legit lost soul

[light latch]

The bats are elites?

[signal brook]

they aren't

[slender temple]

Idk I'm just figuring out whatever that kills Exu2 before her skill are up then this stage pop up

[robust thistle]

idt the bats can even attack while theyre flying

[silver smelt]

exu oneshots the bats anw

[robust thistle]

they need to land first

[slender temple]

OS EX 6 or 7 or smth

[silver smelt]

they were arguing about only pulling limiteds

[worldly fern]

is reed alt worth getting from cert shop if my only caster is lapp alt

[signal brook]

maybe it's like os ex 6, where they're already stationary

[light latch]

I need to remind u guys this is in the context of using exualt to mark enemies for lemon, so whatever theoretical enemy theyre having issues with is an elite or boss

[robust thistle]

a person with 2 working brain cells know to not drop a squishy dps inside a ranged enemy's attack range

[signal brook]

oh good point, I totally forgot that part

[slender temple]

Based on how confused the dude was I'm not sure if he knows the mark only applies on elites and bosses

[silver smelt]

even if so exu is not "squishy" she has a 250% hp barrier

[robust thistle]

I count her as squishy before her skill comes up

[silver smelt]

whatever maybe they can use sash2 initial sp

[shadow bay]

just skillfuly manage exu2 deploy where she can surive till she have her barrier

[silver smelt]

ur talking about that guy having skill?

[pale tapir]

just bring gravel and deploy her right after exia
or right before if they target instantly

[silver smelt]

if anything all they want is miksa
laterano brick

[signal brook]

that's like 27 dp

[silver smelt]

thats wht i said

[shadow bay]

something something she will be free as one option in the selector ~6 months from now

[signal brook]

plus exu, so more like 50

[silver smelt]

but doesnt seem like they are concerned about it. or anything at all, really.

[light latch]

ahem Kill the enemy first and then deploy exusialter, vola

[silver smelt]

why would you add exu ? first of all exu is 12 dp so not 50, also miksa isa lready laterano and will mark for lemune

[shadow bay]

so bring wisadel... understood

[signal brook]

ohh, mark with miska

I thought we were still trying to mark with exu, and miska was there for survival

[signal brook]

like a really really expensive gravel

[slate ridge]

the other way is uh
P6 Confess in the theoretical scenario where its not sleep immune and has a max of 2 blockables at once with no other ranged enemy near said tile while bricking 1 squad slot

[signal brook]

12? at pot 1?

[robust thistle]

if you drop confess on an enemy, does it make the enemy sleep

[slate ridge]

if blockable and not sleep immune yes

[signal brook]

yeah, cause they're blocked

[robust thistle]

logistically if you drop a confession booth on someone they'd usually not just "sleep"

[silver smelt]

i forgot im pot3

[light latch]

Solution: use exusiai s3 to redeploy confes to block enemies to mark them

[silver smelt]

u guys act like theyre gonna read this

[light latch]

The confession booth has a gun

[shadow bay]

[signal brook]

we can summarize and @ them

[light latch]

No, we’re just bored so we’re fucking around

[signal brook]

that'll put them into the sleep they don't wake up from

[safe tundra]

is it possible to round up raidian level to exactly lvl70

[robust thistle]

theoretically yes

[light latch]

What’s actually happening is that Confess 47 has sedative laced donuts in the booth

[robust thistle]

then you'll have to stop playing IS6 forever after you get her to 70

[light latch]

Reference image

[safe tundra]

at least you could like manually claim the exp, which you dont

only downside is the red dot is gonna stick like an incredibly sore thumb

[signal brook]

lol amazing

[hidden nacelle]

never claim the weekly mission again after a calculated run

[signal brook]

are you actually willing to not touch IS6 again after you do so?

[safe tundra]

alternatively if thats too much effort i can fraud myself into thinking i have yet another maxed 6*

[signal brook]

I think it is too much effort, way too much effort

[light latch]

Just max her

[signal brook]

respect

[modest fable]

What’s blaze alter even good for

[light latch]

Dying repeatedly, apparently

[modest fable]

Is her entire kit just locked behind Yu

[pale tapir]

and burnslop enabling
no she has s2
but it's pretty mid

[modest fable]

how sad, I pulled both her and ulpianus on the orienteering banner

[lament loom]

Bro got Ulpipi, good trade

[modest fable]

what about ulpipi, I keep hearing glaze about him with silveralter

[lament loom]

I think its to do with the interaction

[modest fable]

The silveralter s2 dmg boost?

[silver smelt]

hes not good because of sash2 god the discourse surrounding sash s2 is brainrot hes good because big hp pool, good skill (s3), and afk s2 option if you want it

[surreal vine]

just got zuo le who do i send to the glue factory 😭

[robust thistle]

rosa

[wanton meadow]

Ulpi is a great unit, sash2 is a great unit, their combo is a meme team (it's not bad, it's just brainrot slop that's not practical)

[modest fable]

oh I see

it’s okay if I just build blaze alter because she looks really pretty right and I won’t regret it in the future

[surreal vine]

suuuuuuuure but that would make drones a bit more concerning though

[lament loom]

Drones?

[robust thistle]

what is she gonna do to drones

[silver smelt]

point reedic at them

[robust thistle]

she literally targets heaviest enemies first

[surreal vine]

idk bro im waffling 😭
what if kroos doesnt do her job 🥺

[lament loom]

Drones in this day and age are largely irrelevant thanks to our roster we have here in 2026.

[surreal vine]

true…

[robust thistle]

I have an M6 mod3 rosa
I dont think shes shit, I know shes shit

drop her and put in zuo le

[surreal vine]

just did

[light latch]

They dont have any of those 2026 units in their squad

[lament loom]

Oh whats their squad then

[light latch]

.

[surreal vine]

im bricked as hell sorry guys 😭
i only started like 6 months ago

[lament loom]

Oh I didnt see lol

[clever shell]

Can enemies under sleep be shifted?

[next thorn]

The newbie roadmap teach me how to farm dual chip in is but I'm lost. Idk where or which one is the middle butten after I explore then quit

[robust thistle]

yes*
*terms and conditions apply

[lament loom]

Yah u got Kroos Alter and Reedic. U are pre much fine lol

[ancient lintel]

Monthly squad

There's deep exploration
Normal exploration, and monthly squad, you get tier 2 chips via monthly squad

[surreal vine]

thanks for the advice guys im gonna go spend all my sanity grinding for zuo le e2 now /hj

[hidden nacelle]

@robust thistle why are we not encouraging new player to pull for trag/ulpi/zuo le
i have a friend who's only non selector 6 star is pram2 so seems a little silly not to pull and wait for wanger instead

[robust thistle]

depends on how poor or new they are

[quick jolt]

1 6star is fine for a newbie

[robust thistle]

I'll tell them to get 1 *6 if theyre relatively new

[quick jolt]

but no further than that

[lament loom]

Dont they have a beginner banner no?

[quick jolt]

yeah but thats not going anywhere

[robust thistle]

and its shit after 10 pull

[lament loom]

Fairs

[little pike]

Should I build tragodia?

[robust thistle]

why not

[next thorn]

I guess I have to finish the exploration first then I could click the monthly squad

[slender temple]

The answer is always yes regardless of what you have

[dreamy sedge]

Hello everybody! Do I need help with which operators are able to detect hidden enemies?

[little pike]

Which skills should he master?

[light latch]

https://tomimi.dev/en/recruit

[slender temple]

Invisible enemies? Silver ash should do for a beginner

[golden loom]

who?

[dreamy sedge]

Thanks

[dreamy sedge]

And thank you too.

[robust thistle]

if you want early game power, specter
if you want long term investment, shamare

[paper gyro]

Should I pull this (ulp/tragodia/x) orienteering banner, I have 55k

[golden loom]

can i replace shamare with light chaser

[little pike]

Can I live without pramanix?

[robust thistle]

shamare is for her base skill, not for combat

[robust thistle]

I mean its not like you can pull her anyways, does it matter

[slender temple]

Shamare so you don't have to grind for 8 T4 rocks

You can also go grab Tequila in the side stories and you'll get one of the best TP combo to use quite early

[median widget]

Is.. the new event tutorial bugged?

[proven kelp]

Did you try to make them face a direction after dropping?

[slate ridge]

uh face them ?

[golden loom]

I dont have any good vanguard are there a way to get one for free?

[robust thistle]

you have fang

[lament loom]

Shamare in combat comes in handy for niche cases

[median widget]

Ah.
Mb I havent played the game for a while

[slender temple]

Fang should do the trick, you can also aims for Healing+Vanguard/DP-gen tags in recruitment for Myrtle

[modest fable]

Should I pair ulpianus with Gladiia

[robust thistle]

maybe

[modest fable]

I have like, some empty spots in my team

[robust thistle]

surely you have better options than a babysitter

[slender temple]

Are you sure you don't have better options than her

[golden loom]

Is courier better than fang

[modest fable]

I don’t think so no,

Let me just check

[wanton meadow]

Yes but not worth the investment cos courier is still dog

[lament loom]

[paper gyro]

They're similar in roles but 4★needs more mats than a3★

[lament loom]

Fang 2 block?

[wanton meadow]

At least fang is cheap, courier is significantly more expensive and not a good enough improvement

[steep chasm]

Courier can get crazy defense, but for most players not worth yeah.

[robust thistle]

idt what courier does counts as "crazy defense"

[proven kelp]

I'd rather just raise Courier
Better than your shit dying

[robust thistle]

his supposed defense skill has like, dogshit cycle

[steep chasm]

Just don't get tricked into trying to make e1 Texas work.
She just fuckin' dies.

[tribal wyvern]

Idk if this belongs in here, but
I really want to pull some Tragodia and Zuo Le, but new operators are coming up so I could save
Should I pull on the bait banner or no

[robust thistle]

how poor are you

[glass rune]

what packs that r out rn that r actually worth it

[tribal wyvern]

Very
I went all in on Silverash Alter and got logos, hoederer, and Pramanix alter and no Silverash Alter so I don't have much

[deep sandal]

this is probably not a fair comparison but og exuisai or kroos alt is better in term of what they give compare to their investment cost?

[pale tapir]

"worth it" in terms of what
generally monthly card is highest value for pulls if you log in daily

[robust thistle]

then what are you gonna pull with

[robust thistle]

krooster

[pale tapir]

krooster because she actually provides some utility and is much cheaper

[severe crypt]

I believe kroosalt wins assuming equal investment, that’s how much exu sucks

[tribal wyvern]

My totally existent 2100 originium :)
(I know it's sad)

[modest fable]

could you guys check if there are any operators that I should build https://www.krooster.com/u/glowing-charcoal-flint-57ux OTHER THAN ULPIANUS

[glass rune]

okayy, i wanna start hoarding orundum, whars like the best way

[robust thistle]

monthly

[glass rune]

oke

[slender temple]

Ulpianus, Okay I'm blind srry

[robust thistle]

fix your base and base workers
sakiko mod2
logos modD3
can start working on saria E2
give those e2 lv1s some levels
fix your skill levels so theyre all lv7

[humble arrow]

u should at least level 40 your e2s

if you want, gladia is a fine build but you should build her later when you are swimming in resources

[ebon plaza]

how strong is zuo le rn

[humble arrow]

hes still the same as he always was

[ebon plaza]

that being?

[harsh marsh]

Got lucky on the orienteering and I obtained ulpipi at 30 pulls, unfortunately at 40 pulls (current total pulls) I got nothing good, should I continue? the only one left i need is tragodia

[humble arrow]

pretty good lane holder

[robust thistle]

orienteering value drops off a cliff after you own 1 of them

[humble arrow]

33% for trag is very bad

[robust thistle]

if you want tragodia, wait for his rerun

[humble arrow]

if u own the 2 others just skip

I have pulled 200 and not gotten the 33% this game can be pretty crazy

[harsh marsh]

honestly i want stainless too cause he seems really fun to play, kinda scared of 6* duplicates though

[humble arrow]

you should be scared of dupes lol

[slender temple]

Should've stop after the first 6*, you can stop now too

[harsh marsh]

I think I'll stop at the next 10 pulls (so basically at 50 pulls I'll stop)

[humble arrow]

you should stop at a 6 star imo

[robust thistle]

then you'll think you already hit soft pity

[humble arrow]

just pull singles until a 6 star

[robust thistle]

then you'll say 'another 10 because its soft pity'

[harsh marsh]

I still have a lot of events uncleared so, orundum grinding (for now) is the least of my concerns

[slender temple]

Save those pulls for future banners

[modest fable]

alright thanks

[humble arrow]

no reason to pull and not hit 6 star

[hidden wolf]

Will the sakiko event ever comeback

[robust thistle]

then you'll say 'another 10 since I should be getting a *6 soon'

[steep chasm]

You can never convince a gacha player to not pull when they feel like pulling

[robust thistle]

then you already spent 70 on a potential dupe

[harsh marsh]

nah im being true to myself, if it's already 50 pulls then I'll stop whether I like it or not

[slender temple]

Nobody knows

[humble arrow]

if ur pulling u should keep pulling until a 6 star fr

[hidden wolf]

Did u pull

[robust thistle]

why even ask if you should stop pulling if youre just gonna keep pulling anyways

[lofty vale]

Wait I just noticed something
Kal2 will work with SA2 cus of the redeploy setting the operators to 0dp
This means you can redeploy Ulpianus with 2 SA slashes

[faint merlin]

Oop

[robust thistle]

thats what mumu does too, they already fixed that

[slender temple]

And also pulling for Stainless out of all the people is quite questionable decision

[harsh marsh]

yeah, 40 pulls in, got ulpi at 30, results of 40 was ass though

[lofty vale]

They fixed Mumu to not do it?

[humble arrow]

wtf why

[lofty vale]

Bruh 😭

[humble arrow]

big L tbh

[faint merlin]

Damn imagine someone built mumu for that purpose

[lofty vale]

But yea Kal2 was so close to actually being broken

[robust thistle]

shes kinda not

[humble arrow]

I dont have to imagine thats me rn

[harsh marsh]

but but but his dancing cat skin

it's the sole reason I wanna get him besides him being "seemingly fun" to play

[slate ridge]

Mumu SA2 S2 still works atm but i can retest prob
pretty sure they patched Exu2 SA2 S3 from not work to work recently zz

[hidden wolf]

What are total OP from the story including the hard mode

[faint merlin]

[slender temple]

Tbf if you're even bother asking "Should I keep pulling" in here, it means you're not even sure what you're doing. So consider stoping when someone told you so

[lofty vale]

Being able to freely get Ulpi 2x SA slashes on demand would be ridiculous
Not to mention the other redeploy that can be someone like Exu2

But yea since they fixed it

[faint merlin]

This is an intervention

[lofty vale]

Man why’d they fix it 🙁

[hidden wolf]

No i mean did u do the 50 pulls

[harsh marsh]

Not now, that's why i'm asking

[hidden wolf]

Do it gogo lets go gambling

[humble arrow]

bummer

[static glade]

Better save for Wang, you might get good stuff like Wang, Chen3 and the other sui siblings

[slender temple]

Then don't ask and pull, since you ask here it's our duty to intervene isn't that right

[lament loom]

Collab Limited operator so uhh

[lofty vale]

Wait does Kaltsit retreat the operators and set them to 0dp or is it just a display

If it’s a retreat and set as 0 dp it might still work

[slate ridge]

Ye still works at the moment
To ignore class prio and just doubling down most cost

[faint merlin]

[hidden wolf]

I just want the stages to comeback tbh. I dont need sakiko

[deep sandal]

you can get all 4 sui in wang banner which can activate shu's talent which +1 sp generation
have you considered that? just get lucky

[harsh marsh]

I'm planning to save for Wang after 50 pulls in orienteering

[static glade]

Ops in her range will retreat when she uses that skill and costs 0Dp to be redeployed WITHIN her range

[lament loom]

Oh, reruns. Idk tbh

[robust thistle]

oh I thought someone said they fixed it

[bold trellis]

hello, anyone here know any reason why i cant log into tracing our steps website?

[lofty vale]

Okay it might still work with SA2 then

[hidden wolf]

U got 1 vote from me for pulling

[lofty vale]

Mumus one is different cus it’s for a clone so it might’ve been a bug

[static glade]

Might patch like Mumu and Exu

[broken flame]

They fixed the other stuff with him but the Mumu is still kept iirc

[hidden wolf]

I love gambling

[slate ridge]

might have been me when i did a wrong test since i was focused on S3 patching with no sleep
even the Exu2 S3 i said was patched got unpatched few days after my test

[steep chasm]

HG did not need to go that hard for some anime collab, but damn did they ever.
I'll miss those stages too.

[lofty vale]

Oh my god Kal2 SA2 is gonna be insane

[robust thistle]

its really not

[lofty vale]

[robust thistle]

0.1s window that gets fucked if any kind of sp modifier gets added

[humble arrow]

In global exu s3 doesnt work with sash s2 for some reason

[broken flame]

I'll just treat her like Flying OG kaltsit but as a better healer and aoe true dmg

[lament loom]

Me:

[humble arrow]

I hope they fix it

[slate ridge]

idc about SA2 S2
S3 is the bread n butter of utility maxing

and its not a bug
you just didnt use SA2 skill again during rdp time

strategist only modifies undeployed

[lofty vale]

Kaltsit into Exu2

[humble arrow]

Wdym redeploy time, i retreated him gave him 2 stacks then exu s3

[lofty vale]

[humble arrow]

I agree s3 is much more comfortable, barely use s2 tbh

[slate ridge]

you sure it targeted the redeployed after lowering cost ?

[humble arrow]

Yes

[humble arrow]

Wait you mean s2 silverash target the exu elt redeploy?

[broken flame]

6* Skyranger when

[humble arrow]

Not the operator you want to deploy?

[lofty vale]

I hope Ulpianus comes into shop by then
But yea the fact that you can do the SA combo without needing to have him AFK in your bench is so big for me

So you can have him be Ulpianus all the same while also being a deployable nuclear warhead

[slate ridge]

SA2 S2 only lowers 1 target
if the targeted Exu2 S3 rdp is not under 14 dp then you dont get stack

[lofty vale]

What

[humble arrow]

I see

[lofty vale]

From what I see it works in the vid

[lament loom]

[humble arrow]

Crazy

[harsh marsh]

preciate it

[robust thistle]

Idt you understood him properly

Ulpian has to have 2 stacks of SA S2 when you deplpy exialt's beacon

[glass mural]

Oh, that's a Muelsyse variant.

[robust thistle]

Are you sure he has 2 stacks of SA S2 in your case

Because without mumu its gonna take a long time before he gets 2 stacks on 2nd deployment

[glass mural]

Muelsyse skill up forces Ulpianus to have lowered DP cost while choosing what to replicate, which makes him applicable for Sash S2 stack.

[lofty vale]

Yes Kal2 S3, undeploy him and set him to 0 dp, SA skill twice, deploy Ulpianus at new spot
It’s a straight fresh deploy where you click and drag

So you are able to Ulpianus combo with SA2 even while having Ulpi being Ulpi for the entire match

[robust thistle]

Oh youre not the one who said it doesnt work nvm

[lofty vale]

But yea Kal S3 is gonna be big
SA2 skill2 stonks will grow

[robust thistle]

We already have that tech

[lofty vale]

It’s a lot better than Muelseye

[robust thistle]

So no it wouldnt "grow"
Its just "easier to do"

[lofty vale]

You have Ulpianus actually straight up holding a lane for the entire game and then redeploy him to nuke the boss

[robust thistle]

Turns out when the actual hard content comes, you have to do a lot more than just a 160k damage nuke

[lofty vale]

Muelseye needs him to be AFK undeployed

[robust thistle]

If its that broken then the combo would show up a lot more

[static glade]

1 limited op that does what 2 limited ops do for a niche/gimmick is optionally and financially better for your account

[lofty vale]

It probably will she’s not out yet

[robust thistle]

Because the damage is what matters right? We can already do that

[lofty vale]

It’s not just about the damage
Needing to hold Ulpi undeployed just as a boss killer is super inefficient

[robust thistle]

It does the same thing though

[lofty vale]

This has a lot of utility cus Ulpi can still be Ulpi

[robust thistle]

You just need to have faster hands for our current method

Instead of undeploying ulpian manually, its just in one button with kalter S3

[lofty vale]

[robust thistle]

In reality its still the same thing

[glass mural]

She also does the set DP cost to 0 part.

[robust thistle]

Yes thats also what mumu does

[lofty vale]

Set dp cost to zero and immediately redeploy

[little pike]

Is he needs module?

[robust thistle]

Yes I just said you just need faster hands for our current method

Kalter doesnt change anything other than it just makes it easier to do it twice in a row

[ancient lintel]

Mod3 lv82 or mod2 lv88 ya

[lofty vale]

You need both Muelseye and Exu2 just for that right now

[robust thistle]

Dude you keep repeating my point

[static glade]

Kalt'tsit alter is a good choice if you want to play around with Sash2 s2 drops

[robust thistle]

I know how the combo works, it fundamentally doesnt change anything on how it works
It just streamlines on how its done

[lofty vale]

It’s just gonna be strong and fun to experiment with
Dismissing it before it even comes out is

[robust thistle]

I'm a pessimist

[static glade]

If you want strong and fun
Pull Wang™

[slate sigil]

around 1 week i cannot get robot from recruitment, is that okay?

[broken flame]

I think their point with Kal2 is that Ulpian can lanehold a lane before you do the combo. And then when you need to nuke someone out of existence you Kal2 him out of there and do the thing. Which gives him more use outside of just the nuke in a stage.

[slender temple]

Pretty normal

[humble arrow]

I havent seen robot in months

[slate sigil]

[lofty vale]

The map control it allows with Exu2 with units like Hoshi is gonna be ridiculous as well

[robust thistle]

You can also do it eith exy, wdym

[median fable]

new Sashs2 s2 shilling?

[lofty vale]

Kal2 s3

[arctic hawk]

but the core is Sash S2... so yes more slop

[lofty vale]

It doesn’t necessarily need to be Sash2 I just think Kal2 s3 is underappreciated

[glass mural]

Couldn't you just not instantly undeploy Ulpianus while using him with Exusiai and Muelsyse?

[broken flame]

Yeah but funni new unit ig personally won't be doing those things with Kal2. She'll be on perma S2 for me

[median fable]

it's niche

[arctic hawk]

its reasonably under appreciated when its mostly going to just be used for niche

[lofty vale]

Compresses it into 1 unit that also heals but technically yes

[humble arrow]

You have to consider you are losing a whole team slot for her, look at the opportunity cost

[hidden wolf]

What skill for ulpi

[static glade]

Reposition is cool and all, but it boils down to being completely irrelevant in most stages where your units are rooted in one position in the first place

[sleek raptor]

whats the intended strat for ex-3, am I supposed to just throw bodies to the avalanches

[glass mural]

Does make me think though.

[static glade]

2 and 3

[hidden wolf]

How should i use ulpi

[lofty vale]

Good thing you can change skills around then

[broken flame]

S2 for afk lanehold, S3 for 🤯

[humble arrow]

Put ulpi down

His s3 is a nuke and makes him tanky and teleport

[slender temple]

Put him down and press his skill when it matters

[median fable]

repositioning is niche af since why can't you just put the operator where you want at the start of the battle

[humble arrow]

S2 is useful for easy stages where you are too lazy to press s3

[static glade]

Abyssal Hunter squad

[slender temple]

Seriously why are we praising Ulpi S2 at all, just use his S3

[light latch]

Does repositioning always reset sp to initial

[humble arrow]

S2 is also useful for stages where you want him to not lose tankiness

[wanton meadow]

S2 is really only useful if you SPECIFICALLY need ulpi to block 3

[humble arrow]

Like in RA where s3 isnt enough u can use s2

[lofty vale]

I’m not a fan of Ulpi s2

[broken flame]

s2 if you afkslop otherwise just s3

[wanton meadow]

That's it, you can always supplement his healing

[hidden nacelle]

is there a stronghold spreadsheet

[humble arrow]

Ulpi is just really weak offskill

[slender temple]

Tell me one who isn't

[paper gyro]

I guess we'd need an sp battery to skill him quicker

[humble arrow]

S3 just better most of the time just use that tbh

[static glade]

Funny how this game creates classes for restrictions just to throw it out the window with the units that make

[median fable]

95% of his usage is s3

[median fable]

they never did and never will

[quick ruin]

havent changed this in ages, is this good enough or should I try to pull anyone else here?

[humble arrow]

#r-i-i-c

[median fable]

Kaltsit released in 2021 was surely the most normal medic ever

[reef sparrow]

spec alter Y mod

[slate ridge]

depends
if onfield into onfield then capture current sp
if offfield into onfield then capture initial

[lofty vale]

I hope Sash2 gets a module eventually
Having nobody in his class makes it kinda hard to get modules

[broken flame]

sometimes i forget she is like, medic medic

[static glade]

Increase sp gain from 4 to 5

[reef sparrow]

matsukiri in shambles

[humble arrow]

Kalstit please heal please

[median fable]

really good
switch Cantabile for another unit though

[brazen gulch]

the medic trait doesn't say which allies it heals

[humble arrow]

Getting mad at kal targeting was peak arknights

[broken flame]

i hope Vulpis gets a good 2nd Mod

[quick ruin]

This is why I took canta i dont know the numbers tho

[lofty vale]

Me getting clue7 with this anyways

[static glade]

She has her priorities straight, js don't deploy Mon3tr

[humble arrow]

She only heals herself too

[median fable]

mind you, her range alone should be class breaking
just another reason to not focus on classes and archetypes but on roles

[reef sparrow]

ah yes infinite skill Ansel range

[steep chasm]

Why are there so many clue 7's anyway?

[broken flame]

If only her IS mod is actually one of her base mods

[glass mural]

Kal'tsit reposition redeploy forces 0 SP cost. That forces Sash Open game to apply. Which makes Yu S2 a 2 second wait to use skill, Lemuen S3 a 2 second wait, and Mon3tr S3 usable the instant she redeploys. and you deploy her summon.

Definitely not actually necessary for general content, but it's a nice synergy.

[humble arrow]

Should be tbh

[rocky pilot]

In Rhodes island you find Rhodes island

[median fable]

general consensus is that effect is fraud
you'd better consider getting a higher %
remember that promotion and rarity increase clue search speed with occult buffs
chevk the base combo file, rr section in #r-i-i-c for specific numbers

[static glade]

Is Yu worth it for burning snow tiles

[lofty vale]

Rolling for general content is kind
Like how much more braindead can we make brain deadness

[gentle dove]

Wait Kaltsit alt specialty is redeploying ops? I just arrived to #help

[quick ruin]

base is endgame

[humble arrow]

Base is endgame ngl

[median fable]

as said before, it's literally niche

[gentle dove]

That sounds cool af

[lofty vale]

That’s her s3 yes

[static glade]

That's a side ability her main one is flying foreva and blocking telepathically

[humble arrow]

Opportunity cost was not considered

[glass mural]

:nodnod:

[gentle dove]

So her skill is basically any helidrop skill, what's the sp cost?

[humble arrow]

U could be bringing someone who offers something you actually need like cc

[median fable]

no one is saying Kal2 s3 is trash, we're just saying that won't be relevant generally
Exu2 s3 alone showed how good double tp with Yu or Shu is but it's niche even in their case

[lofty vale]

No idea you can redeploy 2 units btw

[knotty wave]

I feel like kal s3 is just one of those Nasti promotion we keep getting from the new ops lately

[gentle dove]

Potentially insane

[static glade]

Everything is Nasti upscale

[glass mural]

The general one you'll probably want to m3 first is S2 though.

[gentle dove]

Watch them release operators with crazy helidrop skills to upscale kalter further lmao

[glass mural]

This is increasingly speculation territory, so we should probably head to #cn-lounge

[gentle dove]

Right my bad

[knotty wave]

If theyre going this hard for a Nasti promotion, they better release a boss that ACTUALLY necessitates blocking air because these Nasti promotions are getting annoying atp

[lofty vale]

Her s2 looks strong just kinda.. boring ?

[gentle dove]

What's her s2? Another dps or?

[static glade]

I wonder if you can deploy ground units on Nasti tiles

[lofty vale]

True damage bombs that heals AoE
10 bullets

[gentle dove]

Exists I guess

[lofty vale]

On stream it showed each bomb dealing 4845 damage per hit
So it’s 48450 damage per skill

[glass mural]

It's the Kal'tsit/Mon3tr tradition of being the best available true damage unit in the game.

[median widget]

Pass or pull?

[glass mural]

Pass.

[static glade]

Pass

[deep sandal]

pass

[gentle dove]

Big pass

[humble arrow]

Big pass

[median widget]

Damn okay

[lofty vale]

Need another 4 more peeps to say pass

[abstract mauve]

pass

[static glade]

Swap the I in big with the A in pass

[broken flame]

Now true dmg aoe with fat aoe heals. Global true dmg soon™

[glass mural]

2 reasons.

1. The banner just sucks.
2. Wang savings are more valuable than rolling here.

[gentle dove]

If you want to pull somewh save for wanker
If you're desperate pull for trago-ulpi-third option in the orienteering

[rocky pilot]

Remove the p in pass

[humble arrow]

I would pull for ulpi trag if u dont have all 3

[severe crypt]

Pas

[glass mural]

At bare minimum, someone should be missing both Ulpi and Tragodia to even consider rolling.

[nova nest]

Rolling? You mean pulling?

[broken flame]

Same thing rolls/pulls

[rocky pilot]

Someone needs to learn about gambling more it seems

[urban sleet]

Be hakari

[glass mural]

Slot 3 doesn't matter as much. . Missing only one of the two makes it a 33% shot that you get the good shit on a 6 star roll, this is flat out worse than event rerun territory (50% I think) or banners like the Wang banner (70%).

[urban sleet]

General tip: 98% standard banners are not worth pulling on
Needs to be something like a mlynar+tragodia or ines+ray combo to be considerable

[humble arrow]

Ngl the mumu silverash exualt ulpian feels kinda niche in testing

[glass mural]

It 100% is absolutely completely niche.

[median widget]

I
Have no idea who any of those are

[deep sandal]

i still don't know why they would take mlynar out of the banner, it literally makes people pull more

[bold trellis]

anyone here know how to fix sign in problem in retracing our steps site?

[humble arrow]

Think

[bold trellis]

i cant sign in cus of that, even tho i have yostar account already

[worldly fern]

my wang savings would be gone if mlynar was in the banner

[deep sandal]

it can't be that the devs feel bad for our wallets

[humble arrow]

Banner too good makes them lose money

[slender temple]

It's more to me like they know Tragodia alone is enough bait anyway since, well. I've seen people who'd risk it for Trag

[lofty vale]

You know
I just had a thought
Is the reason why people call Ros good in IS because they self ban Wisadel

[urban sleet]

2 good operators makes the banner attractive enough while rest being bad makes up for enough ppl to use quite a few pulls up

Unless they are me and get 2 units in 30 pulls

[humble arrow]

They... use both

[rocky pilot]

Okay am I remembering something wrong or
I remember getting eblana as rate up this year in one of the standard banners but cannot find it at the wiki

[urban sleet]

Wisadel is better but ros is still good in her own right
And you draft both anyways

[humble arrow]

Have you ever thought of that

[coarse notch]

when playing sniper/med and ingot/talons ros is better than wis

[humble arrow]

You still get both

[urban sleet]

indeed pillars help a lot with ground presence

[humble arrow]

No reason not to grab wis

[coarse notch]

if you can you get both but oftentimes ed4 hope cost makes you unable to

[lyric lagoon]

she was on joint op

[urban sleet]

Oh yeah lotus halves your command exp gain right

[lofty vale]

Im not exactly sold on Specter alters new IS mod

[coarse notch]

also like, without a wis ban ros is still a nice carry in her own right especially for people with limited rosters

[coarse notch]

thats cuz it aint selling shit, its not good

[lofty vale]

Sad

[rocky pilot]

When was the date?

[lyric lagoon]

jan 23

[urban sleet]

Spalter IS mod is to covee up for yours mistakes
But you shouldn't be making any in the first place and ngl idk how much of a cover-up it is considering opportunity and hope cost

[rocky pilot]

Okay yeah probably that one
Don’t know why Jo #19 got wiped off the wiki

[lofty vale]

Needing e2 for the mod is super expensive

[coarse notch]

typhon and specter IS mods are of the type where if a newbie happened to offrate them, they'll be serviceable
makes them good enough to take if you got few options and even fewer on their voucher type

[wide knot]

Btw what do you guys think Silver ash2 module would be like?

[humble arrow]

Prolly similar to saga

[wide knot]

What does it do again?

[humble arrow]

Refund dp iirc

[lofty vale]

Sash2 module..?