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Check the Beginner guide for Side Story Priority
If you already gotten the recommended ones, just pick whoever, it doesn't really matter
hello, whhere's the pin for base comps ?
#r-i-i-c 's pins have a lot of base related info.
You can also head to #bot-spam and type /baseskills for a list of cheap to raise base workers.
thank you
Oh yeah the pinned message, yeah I'll check that since i got 3 more ops to upgrade , lappland alter, silveralter and pramalter
Is there a way to get the basic chips to promote units beside the farming stage? The ones needed to E1 ops
RA and event shops
Event shops usually have a few of one specific type, but I think that's it.
The game shop also has chip packs for like $5.
Sadge, I'll wait tomorrow then, ty
RA takes a while to set up but the boost in chips is really nice
What’s elysium’s main skill?
let me guess she sucks right?
You need her burn mod to make her usable. There's better options, but she's fun if you got nothing better to raise
Is Weedy a good operator? I can get her guaranteed through the "Shift" tag. However, I could also potentially get Ceobe through the "Crowd-Control" tag (who I want more), but its not guaranteed and I only have a 1/5 chance of getting her since there are 4 other operators I could possibly get besides her.
ill reroll ig...
Hi, who should I recruit from the headhunting data contract? I don't own the ops from Virtuosa onwards, is there a best choice among them or do I just follow my gut?
Oh yeah, lol. If youre rerolling don't settle for her
Inc wisadel? Have rosmontis i assume
Have wisadel not rosmontis
How many pulls did you do? If you don't have enough to spark someone, it's generally recommended to not keep pulling just to be able to spark
it is if you’re only like 10 or 20 pulls away
I pretty much spend 270 to get silver ash
Should i be saving my distinctions for characters or spend them on pulls?
Idk if this count as help chat but do anyone know where i can download W voicelines?
Newbies like you can raise her
But if this is a reroll account yeah dont keep
pulls since most of the time characters worth certing won’t be in shop, though it’s recommended to have 180 saved just incase there’s an op you really need
Tbf theres really no ond good in next 6 months outside of IS certs, which well you wouod be knowing beforehand if you need them and hence woulfnt ask
Most ops in the gold cert shop won't be worth buying, but you also don't need to prebuy the pulls as soon as you have 258 certs either.
There should be some pretty good ops in the cert shop at some point this year (Ray, Ascalon, Logos or Ulpianus) so I'd hold on to at least 180 certs at all times.
Always wait until last minute to cash in your certs
If you're out of pulls on an important banner and you still don't have the rate-up you want, THEN maybe consider buying the headhunting permits, but only IF you have the 258 certs required to get all the permits.
hhmm i only started a little bit ago with the game and currently trying to pull on the event banner to get the rate up since i was told they were good. so i only have 44 of em right now and was wondering if it was worth it to put them into the current banner or not. (a little bit being like maybe a week ago?)
the two rateups on the current limited banner are both good yeah. How many gold certs do you have atm?
they just said 44💀
Rosmontis quite nice if u enjoy IS, other than that just waifu purpose. Which is no need to explain to begin with
And please don’t use them in the standard banner, even if it interests you! I kinda regret spending mine for pozy, even if I did get everything I want regardless
if with gold certs you mean the distinctions i currently have 44. (not sure if it is the right one as i am colorblind)
This is why you dont twke op recs from #arknights 
Then just wait imo. The problem with grabbing the certs now is that the "cost" is pretty expensive unless you can get all of them.
I didn’t. She’s my second favorite operator in the game, so I got her from personal liking.
I never go to #arknights 🙏 my eyes wouldn’t survive a minute there
To be fair I used up my certs cause I was angry
they made me go to 90 without a single pozy so I just went the rest of the way with certs
Still mad at getting typhon + fia (two 6* standard banner snipers that are so mid I won’t use at all) instead of my preferred, rate up 6* standard banner sniper
alright, thanks for the advice
bud got the #arknights rec sniper special 
😭 in a single ten pull too
Is it really bad to have a squad of mostly 5*?
Nobody expects a newbie to have all the shining 6 stars, and 5starknights is a form of nicheknights too
Half of my squad are 5*
ok but that’s for a different reason 

Who let thjs mujica fan in 🚮
Ok so yeah between Ines, Mon3tr and Logos which one do you guys think is better worthwhile?
Is it the yu- yep the yuri + avemuji special
all of the above
Wait you play mujica, do you draft them in IS asw?
Ok but I can only choose one so... Yeah
I feel like Ines makes it so you can't live without her but mon3tr...
Is the x reaction means it's not bad?
5*s work fine for story content. I wouldn't E2 them in 95% of cases though.
The main "problem" with 5 star units is that they cost about as much to E2 as 6 star units, while also just generally being worse because they don't get a third skill and have less stats.
These are my characters rn
Is that from selector? Pick mlynar
Yes 
But I'm not really a competitive IS player so I don't really do those multiple endings stuff
I looked him up and I didn't really like his kit (maybe I'm missing something)
I was looking for alternatjve comps for exu2+raidian ban medal, oh well
he waits and he does BIG damage in BIG area
and he has a BIG ||spear with his skin||
Tf is a ban medal
if you are talking about the 30 dollar selector, mlynar is the best pick due to his insane dps output
Ouh right. Okay I'll just not e2 them thx
IS Central medals
moreso roles

what is an IS central medal?
He needs E2, but his damage on S3 is crazy. Like wipe out elites and bosses crazy.
His only drawback is he doesn't do anything off skill, but his skill only needs like 20 seconds to charge befor first use.
i did it with trag and flower squad it wasn't too bad
not even infinite flower squad run
Relicmaxxing with flower ic
Is Snow Hunter any good
lotto winner 🤑
You won the ressonable reroll lottery
nice, 3 rerolls is all it took
I know but that's the thing I don't like about him, having to wait. I like the other three becouse I find them super interesting (aside from them being super good too)
well you’d have to wait for them as well 
mlynar wait is him being offskill I think not...this
IS Central is I think the official IS counterpart of this server 
Just deploy him early. He costs like 13 DP or something. Then hit his skill when something nasty or a bunch of enemies come in range.
It might seem bad that he can't do anything immediately but...he can hold entire lanes by himself easily.
Yeah that's what I meant, him only doing the thing when his on his skill is not that appealing to me... 
https://www.krooster.com/u/sanct
It’s that time again! How’s my squad, based on my owned operators? Currently getting lmd for sash2 e2. I know I have quite a bit of stuff to raise, but I’m doing them one by one.
Kroos2 switched around for other stuff regularly, really.
basically a run doing multiple endings with a few bans? that's...fine I guess
actually never did d18 is5 so maybe not
Whats a blocker
I deploy him just like that
A person who blocks
-# omw to block you
why the “🥀” I’m 2 months in 
someone go help the mlynar hater
I did think about Ulpianus but I don't know...
lowkey i dont get why quite literally every single newbie ive seen seem to hate liberators 
Why are you not running lumen/wis/jess2 ?
Why are your baseslaves not raised too ?
It's not that I hate him, is just that I don't find him as interesting as the other characters
not to mention the 🐘 in the room (
)
because every other operator that isn't a phalanx caster or liberator is doing something offskill which makes it feel like they are doing more
besides, ALMOST every liberator is male
Leizi2
Leizi2 is a male now ? 🥹
Oh that's neat
You mostly just need to raise Wis and you should be able to cruise through the rest of the story.
forgot leizi2 exists
even when I'm literally raising her next 
Exactly, I feel like they do more (even though I might be wrong)
they see their peashooters killing 20 hp slugs but the liberator don't
I was raising base slaves and then the limited came and I got confused and now I’m out of lmd due to raising other people. Uh, I’m making good lmd and everything, should raise tomorrow or so I have 170k so barely anything til sash2 e2
Lumen switched for ptilo on a reular basis as well.
Got jess2 on the standard banner w/ pozy but didn’t have time to raise her yet. Just not a priority right now, at least not over sash2 or my missing base slaves
Consider the fact that almost every operator offskill is quite useless, and liberators don't seem so bad now
it’s not like uptime is bad either
The best suggestion I can make is for you to borrow Mlynar from someone and try him out tbh. Put him on S3 and just watch as everything in range just melts once it's ready.
Wiš’adel… if there’s people who would do anything just to get and raise her, I’m willing to go to hell and back just to not
least favorite operator. I’d rather leave her at E0/1
I'll do that, yeah
I’d raise windflit to e2/80 but not wis
well that's the thing
every liberator is good cus they do alot of damage when they are using skill which compensates for them doing nothing offskill
you can't quite say pram2 is any worse for not doing anything offskill either
and liberators can be deployed very early due to their small cost so they can get to charge their skill and with module, they get full charge of their trait on deployment so it's even faster damage
borrow someone's liberator and you might understand yeah
Yeah, that's fine. If she's being ignored on purpose then you're good.
I wanna do some pram2 burn slop
also doing nothing off-skill is wrong considering mlynar has aggro and can tank significantly better than the average op
Focus on base slaves
You can use lumen since you already did most of the work to make him viable, just get his mody1 and use s3
Sl7 mountain/kroos2 if you use them, but focus mostly on wis e2 mod3, e2ing your sash (guard) and masteries for your current ops
Jess2 over spot when you have the chance
… mountain isn’t sl7? Did I just miss this
According to your krooster at least, he's not
Oh wow. He is. Okay, just switched tabs to ak and did it. Should help
what should i choose 😭
Fair. Since sash1 is e1/75 would he be over jess2 then? Or nah
He would, damage is better than defensive stats
would pick taxes
Texalt > mumu > the rest methink
Cube can I cope taxes anywhere in IS 🥹
shes decent in 3 and 4 i think
She used to be pretty good in IS3
Neat. Oh yeah, what does jess2 provide besides the riot shield? Taunt, healing, some chip… like, what’s she for
I never really read her kit I got her by pure accident and unluck

for 6 shes yan and is technically decent but yato is better if you have her
Yo chat which ones
am i gonna be doomed if i miss silverash alter or nah? this is my current squad
Ic thanks 
Thanks 
A good defensive option, with a bit of damage on s3
Mostly a pocket redeployable defender with s3, with decent phys dph and a stun on top
No progress in 6 months
Exu2 and Pram2 existing there already has you beat a large part of gen content for basically free.
oh lol
i hopped on for the first time when exu dropped, got her in one pull and my friend hated me forever
is she really that good compared to others
sash2 probably isn’t as important as you believe him to be, you already have very powerful carry units so you’ll likely never have to stress missing a character anyways
thats amazing
@coarse notch hey I'm gonna just keep pulling for pram 2 even if I have to go to 300 because now there 167 pulls until 300
nasti on the other hand..
Top 3 units in the game in global rn
167 pulls js a lot
Ooh, neat. Pretty nice. Should I keep sash2 at e2 1 or get him to 60? He doesn’t have a module, breakpoints or… anything really, as well as working just fine on e1.
oh wowies
exu2 is a top 3 operator in the game lmao
her s2 deals way too much damage and has a very fast cycle. also has utility on her s3 if u wana play around with that
Yeah but I have like 200
if you have other things to focus on, yeah e2 lv1 is fine
yeah ive been told to use S2 over S3
and having 33 after isn’t a lot
Yeah but I have plenty of content and time to save for Wang
Yeah he's not your priority imo, you can even keep him e1 until you're done with sash guard/important masteries
But ultimately you'll raise everyone to e2 60, even if only for stats
Pull until you have both banner units 
Yee haha that's what I'm doing
Gonna wait for last day though
is saving for wang and chen the dawnstreak a W move?
Fair fair. I’ve also been told cuora > spot for brick purposes but to be fair I use him mainly for blocking with a little healing utility 
i don’t need it as much because sakiko + mutsumi and sash2 is just solid shrug
how bad of a decision would it be to pull for nasti 
nasti is based
For "brick" yes
For blocking most things, spot would be enough and the healing is pretty nice early on
yea. arguably strongest banner in ak history so far 
You'll use jess over cuora anyway so 
ok i lowk got like 3k orundum rn so i gotta save starting now
not my question 
u will be fine the upcoming 3 months until wang banner is full of super mid banners anyway so ez skips 
mayu send help
I feel like making a bad decision
like would she really be any good for anything?
Depend on your savings when she drops
Imho between nasti and titi, i'd rather go for nasti
But niche operators are always "can you afford to consider them ?" rather than anything else
im still on ep 6 of the story though dont know if thats a bad thing
For now, both nasti and titi are kinda jobless tho
Hg delaying ccb also means we csnt say for sure if her niche is relevant or not
I might sadly not pull for wang
cus dude just has a bad design imo and that just makes me sad
pull for nasti if u like to enjoy chen alt alt shenanigans
Well obviously the meta advice is to go for wang
And chen3 is on the same banner too
Guess so :p
and so it goes like:
-> Sash2 e2/1
-> Base Slaves
-> Sash1 e2 + probably module as well
-> Lumen mody1
-> Jess2
Did I get that right?
Kuroblood blasphemy wao
Additionally, does nasti’s tile serve as a roadblock as well? Was wondering 
a character design isn't just how he is drawn
I like wang as a character I don't like him as a playable character
a strategist that just throw bombs at enemies is a much bigger blasphemy to me
Nope, more like
Base slaves
Wisadel (if you don't like her, feel free to ignore that ig)
Sash guard e2 mod3
jess2-sash2 e2-lumen mody1 on the same-ish prio
Imho
im glad im not the only one who feels this way. that, and i dont like how he looks either.
enemies won't avoid it so it's like a defender that you can deploy something on top of it I guess
But this is meta channel what are u smoking
im going to get rsi dragging all the bombs on the enemies every second
Theoretically as a trapmaster he should be strategically be deploying his chess on tiles to hit enemies but his absurd kit makes it so it’s… basically a point&click to murder everything on sight so I get what you mean
Just use s2 instead then 
then u have the answer
what do u think the gameplan should be for me (3k orundum and on ep 6 of story, this is current squad)
- Pull for silverash alter as much as I can
- ignore silverash alter and save up for wang and chen dawnstreak
Feel free to ignore the second coming of the roache ig
do u even need wang if you already have wis
I don't have wisadel pot5 cus I want
I didn't stop until Logos
Do you even need 2000 bucks if you already have 2000
Instead of clicking a button you have to click a button AND drag a summon?!?!! 😱
just get em all
Need is a strong word.
It's more, value per pulls spent and such.
And we all know Wang is objectively a high value pull target. 
also ch3n
Pull on wang for offrate shu 
i see
someone 🥹
Sides, how many of you rolled for Silverash Alter when you already had Ines? 
Also tysm for this. Writing down yes yes
You may as well keep trying for SA2. There's plenty of time to save up enough pulls between end of SA2 banner and Wang's banner.
As for your actual question. 
well thanks guys I shall plan my spendings for the next months
U can go broke and still have enough pulls until wang (as long as u play regularly) tho u still have plenty stages to grind so whatever, can go for 1 more 6* ig. Thats quite slow for 6 months acc just want to say it
You already have Pram, so that effectively lowers your odds of getting a good pull result from 70% of 6 stars rolled to about 35% of 6 stars rolled.
Are the “optional” people noted on /baseskills also mandatory in terms of help regulars calling out unbuilt ‘slaves
lemme check idr the command
nah i just wasnt tapped in with the game till now, i hopped on when exu dropped, got her in 1 pull then had to focus on finals. now that i got into uni im starting the game for real
With that in mind, the higher value overall bang for Orundum buck choice for you is to save and gun for Wang/Chen tbh. 
i wish i had exu2 (and lumeun) cus they just look so pretty
real i had no knowledge that she was op i just pulled cuz she looks tuff like that
Welp its ur choice, wont hurt regardless
im thinking i do one more ten pull on ash then save for chen and wang
Just keep grinding out story when there's no event to farm and you'll have a TON of pulls by Wang's banner.
thats amazing
whts like the top 5 past events with the most stages to farm
Exu2 can be offrated from the next celebration limited onwards so every other limited starting 6 months from now. Good luck.
Lemuen’s standard, uh, pray for a spook!
Atleast 1 more 6*, no point otherwise. It doesn't carry
excellent. so i skip wang, spark exu2, and buy the selector for lemuen
…. Absolutely not
yeah i dont think im getting that lucky though, i only got 3k orundum rn
Most aren't great
Just raise if you need more workers, if you stagger properly you should be better off, but you may need tp workers, and vermeil pairs are always good, vermeil will always be good for base, up to the bis setup
I’ve been using them with bubble and noir. Is it good enough?
Grind more stages thats it, anni first rewards, event shop, green certs shop
bro ive already dropped 100 pulls on the banner i can barely afford one more 😭
Firstly, don’t spark. Secondly, the selector doesn’t have lemuen, since it only has operators 6 months old at the very least. Finally, don’t skip wang
Only*
oh i thought it was october? (nextr selector, not this one)
is tragodia buyable in gold cert now?
Ahh… Technically you could then, yes.
Operators generally tend to go to the gold cert shop once they’re about 2 years old, though there is no confirmation at all and we do not follow any set schedule. Thus, no guarantees
Noir is good enough
bubble isn't great, substitute with either cuora e0, or bean/click e1
U said only in ep6 i believe, but if grinding too much for u. Just dip. Simple as that
Eventually, but not any time soon. OPs generally don't show up in the cert shop until like 2 years after their first banner. Trag came out about 5 months ago.
i dont wanna rush through the story that's the thing, i got studies too so i wanna take it nice n slow
5 months actually
Yeah sure, its in around 3 months btw. So make sure not another 6 months gap playing
yeah im not planning on doing that again LOL, thanks for the help 👍
Tragodia didn't even rerun yet
If you want him, better bet on that, but i would wait before 7th anni/MH collab reveal before drawing conclusions
I'm gonna guess that she's mid, but that makes sense for her being the first ever free 6* from a replayable event
She is
Absolutely not worth your mats
too expensive for someone that just pull stuff into holes
you can argue she's a good support for ulpianus but so is a damn healer
Eh, she's cool, I'll probably raise her if I end up having the mats to spare (which I won't for a while)
Just unlocked base level 4 and so now I've gotta go through the hell that is gathering all the random materials for any given e2
Gladiia has 2 usecases imo
First one is AH nicheknight, and that's her weakest one, overall the buff is decent when applied to multiple team slots, but the operators are all low quality outside of ulpi, and the niche is bad
The second one is shift gimmicks, that's her best niche, be it pulling things or shiftcancel, tho this is something that you will use very very rarely
Just use weedy fr 
The inferior squad
Broooo I'm not beeing able to find someone with a Mlynar for me to try
ç
what about rope
is she good
I don't have module sadly cus I don't use him
sorry I only use waifu
I have only mod1
the cheapest puller you can get, you level her skill to 4-7, leave her at lv.1 and use her every once a year when it's convenient
she not good if not for pulling something into a hole
Does exactly what gladiia does with very little differences except the absurd investment difference between them, which is what makes rope better as a cheap operator to raise (for the hook niche, which is rarely used btw)
i see, ok. i wish there was a rope alter... she is cool
Get lucky™
I want beagle alter
Arknights hates this one simple niche
A Rope2 possibly stealing enemy weight for shift power would be a cool idea 
add me
Huh
is she ok as a replacement for jessica?
is shiftknights a thing?
Yes, and it's very fun to play
It’s very likely. Anything can be a niche.
i love arknights
What’s the lore reason for her having the transparent thing on btw
not a question for this channel
Hell you could probably do theatreknights or whatever it’s called (Tippi/Trag/Phantom) and you would be likely to just win lmao
She won't replace your anti air option
Which should not be jessica in the first place, use kroos/kroos alter
Ok yeah I'm picking Ulpianus, mainly because I do feel like I need some kind of lane holder
I mean she does kill better than Jessica but doesn't prioritize air enemies
a reason to raise enforcer and FEater?! but I feel like any nicheknights requires you to git gud and that's hard...
rip ok
feater is used in is5 👍 and i draft her in is6 👍
enforcer has a niche 👍
Enforcer is awesome 😎👍
It is, imo, one of the more mechanically/knowledge demanding niches, but it's not rocket science either
Grain buds thoughts 
don't you draft snowsant in is4?
think about something pretty bad
there you go
Minimalist?
uh meh
Is weedy played anywhere in IS
Puzzle…?
think about something pretty bad
there you go
(Althought I could also get Thorns or Saria, specially Saria, from the Starter Top Operator Transfer Permit)
think about canta/surfer but not good
there you go
Quite a few solves for specific stages with her you can look into
Weedy is is3 queen
Yes, she's the easiest izumik solve for is3, and kinda good en route too
I mean, given time, food, water and a lock at my door and I might learn rocket science I just feel like I should just choose a niche instead cus I'm poor...
wanna help me someday?
I see
Ask rain instead, they know 10 times more than me about the niche
rain?!
The worst part of doing shiftknights is you would have to gimp your ops to level 1 so they can shift instead of killing the enemy 
Brigid
it’s almond who solos d15 e.nmtf
not snowsant 
That rain 
oh so it's worse
think about something kinda mediocre
there you go
Taraxacum
idk wtf he does icl
I just bring kafka when i want to goof around, but ig you have bigger ambitions than me
I was gonna ask for cairn/skybox as well if you know them but they’re not in en yet either iirc
the what
cairn is nice from what shileds told me
Is Kafka used outside of goofing around a btw
Elaborate??? Skybox being tequila tier is unexpected wait a second what do they do again
is he? why???

damage wise prob
is knowing meta not required to be mod?
@abstract mauve why was skybox tequila tier again
Oh if only Shileds can explain well 
Fairly sure just sleepknights or some. I’d say she’s good as is I guess, that’s also exactly what she does in the story shrug
She's definitely on the "very" niche side, but overall a very good operator imo
Also way more versatile than it lets on at first glance
S1 S2 is solid damage
Pretty sure Shileds mainly use S2
I will be testing if S1 is patched when he comes
minimum requirement is being alive, which i only fulfil at half but im good anyway
She seems cool asf
Is mudrock still worth to get or is already outdated ( I more or less like her)
whats wrong with s1?
outdated for years
Outdated but still useable to an extent
It gives sp back like Cutter if it kills
Since it has a trigger that thinks the skill failed = refund sp
But damage is still done
She is, one of my favorites actually
Also incredibly cheap to raise, since you just, don't raise her at all
P6 if anything
Her dmg too low for the modern era 
wouldn't spend even a single pull
lemao
So she is still usable?
anyone is usable
Is the glitch your talking about, the one that spams S1 a ton?
Ye
That glitch is funny 
the bar for usable is very low
shes still alright as afk op but struggles to keep up in pretty much any department with modern ops
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how broken is skybox...
I do think about playing a niche often but then I realize I don’t have half the operators I’d need so…
What all should I buy out of the event shop, or like where should I start just buying stuff out
Do you have the skill, time and patience too? 
First is lmd, exp and skill books
lmd exp. get your squad up
I have 246 distinctions so I'm thinking to buy her
Then get the Module, Furniture and Pulls then the Materials then Tokens then chips and costumes
Absolutely the patience but I have my doubts about skill depending on which. Regardless, I feel as though I have the stubbornness to bash my head against a wall however many times I need to
I think about vanguardknights just cus I like vanguards then I remember they have no damage and I want to raise other stuff
does Lumen needs any mastery?
Well she's definitely not worth 180 certs
That's 27 pulls
The niche I recommend playing is Awesomeknights and you get to choose who is awesome 👍
i wouldnt recommend spending certs for her, even if theres no better shoperator alternative in the near future you're better off just buying out the pulls
Isn't that just vibeknights
so how i supposed to do the last minigame map for the medal idk how make 12 points in 10 turns
Awesomeknights™
Plan ahead?

as i say i dont know
-# Offbrand waifuknights © 
Just utilize the chain yea
nothing really special, land on the nodes you need while preserving your highest combo cards (eg 3 4 5), and use excess to move forward for the chest rewards
Which should i get?
the cat
whens cn anniversary livestream again?
Buy rosmonthis
Its like deciding when to do combos and forgoing chains for more urgent needs
My casual try has gotten me to 18/12
is she still good in IS tho?
what uses does she have in IS? i tried seeing some videos but i didnt really get it
guys Lumen needs any mastery?
Spam walls, deal Arts and be buffed by Caster Relics too
Shes only good in IS
would you consider entelechia s3 as hp% dmg?
Abuse flinger relic and spam shields w mod
i c, shes good without promoting her there or needs e2? (i mean within the gamemode, e2 outside ofc)
Not really but if you already did E2 then S3M3 Luck1
I mean you need E2 for the module
is she decent with e1 for opening or u should just use someone else to open tho?
Someone else, E1 can work on IS5
i c, thanks!
do we have 4 free daily pulls left?
I think so yea, since banner ends on the 28th
Around that much yes
No, her damage doesn't scale off hp value, only the candles do
If anything, it just bypass the minimum damage threshold
Hello! May I ask who should I pick in this pack? Below are the operators I currently have and are elite 2 plssss help me choose all of them in the pack r so mouth foamingly good 😭
Fluid is worse than the optimal story stages, so skip grinding fluid on the event
You can use /eventfarm in #bot-spam so you always know if it’s worth grinding on x event
/hotdog
It's inefficient, sure but it's not worse than story tho ?
Where are you getting your numbers ?
It wasn't meant for you, should've replied mb
I said it was not optimal, so it was better to grind from story… hmm
Which is not true
You said that it's worse than optimal story stages too, which is not what you just said either
Kinda
Like by technicality, it's basically HP% Dmg
Since regardless of how much the enemy HP has, her s3 can always cut up to 60% of their HP
But it's really just worse than an actual HP% since she needs to work towards it, and not just a upfront dmg like the rest
Avoid off topic here
"others" being just ch3n?
I mean, it's not HP% damage if you just spawn a dummy that you have to hit for the damage to be applied
On huge HP pools you can go 3/4 cycles easily and still not be done
I know I tested this at some point but I forgot
like how entel s3 interacts with a defense debuff like shamare's
...I should just try it
Are necrosis-focused operators only:
Valarqvin
Logos
Virtuosa
Nymph
Ebenholz
Diamante
Philae
PhonoR-0
Any others?
Candles are treated as allies, so you can't really debuff them
As far as i can tell, you need to debuff the enemy before you apply the s3
I mean if you debuff the enemy before using s3
does it copy original or current stats
you can filter through tomimi to get the confirmation
Oh, ty!
when do we get a tomimi.app? 😔
I haven’t read the part of ”expected sanity per main drop” which is a lower value than 12-17
Thought at first that the “efficiency” rate was the one that means how much worth is grinding the stage.
Is that the reason why my answer was wrong or anything else?
It’s my fault for not reading and misinforming others, I’m sorry for it
Do celebration limited banners always come with paid standard and kernel selectors?
if the devs want to, idk
and they happen twice a year yes
hi light bestie you take over i'll go sleep bai 
damn that was fast
All good
Efficiency is a bit of a bait too, since usual mats calcs are made with sidedrops in mind, so the actual good efficiency stages for a given mats can be a bit buried
You were right when saying that fluid isn't efficient to farm right now tho, the efficiency isn't that far from story stages, and sugar/RMA are both better to farm
Sheesh.. only this
welp. Thank you for directing me to tomimi
and most of the time it's just virt and logos doing necrosis shits 
Phonor gaming
Instructions for rerolling acc?
check pins, look for roadless camelot
Valarq is a worse virt, eben is eben, nymph likes fear more, diamante/philae I don’t even need to say and phonor is a robot. So, yes, mainly virtuosa and logos
Nymph procs it very well on S2
Yeah, since sugar/rma has a higher drop rate than fluid, it’s better to spend sanity on those stages instead.
So fluid is a “fine in a pinch” if you need it rn.
Thanks for correcting and explaining all this 
Ping me to it please
its the bottom most pin
Still though 
what
shes a fear bot and is her main purpose sure
but shes also very good at procing necrosis
it's fear but she still do it
thanks light, defend my girl
Hey don't you spoon me, i'm lazy, it's faster than explaining how you access pins
ig yeah ill take any nymph ws I can get
is it possible to perma sleep cycle with 2 ops?
Just ask Fae to post the picture
honestly might need to make it a shaw command
remind me in 2 hours
yes boss
I’m trying to cope with not getting her/getting her not really being the wisest decision with my current savings 
CC6 was Liskarm Blacknight permasleep no
Nymph doesnt have a clear purpose at the moment
Well she does technically have very good single target stall but thats incredibly niche
you're gonna get her as an offrate someday
just like me
Yeah. Tragodia exists and necrosis as a niche is.. yes
It’s a thing but definitely not an important thing
Yeah with 2 ops you can't unless pretty specific conditions
Your best bet is blacknight s2, it's somewhat easy to sp battery her with devices
do hunter have the 120% atk multpiplier on their skills? (talking abt wheter snowhunter s2 get that 120% or no)
I mean not using some liskarm battery shenanigans 
how long is erato skill tbh
I pray for that day to come 🙏 especially with her new-ish skin
so whats the end game? i got a lot of story left to do but im not sure what the end game is. is it just building more ops?
and doing harder content
you are free to set your goals in that department
the skill ceiling is very high
5s according to tomimi
whats the harder content?
5 secs sleep, 9sp cd
that damn giraffe that makes my life miserable
that's harder content
idk how hard high end RA is but surely
skill ceiling goes higher than an individual player can realistically achieve on their own if that says anything
Very
why do you say this
because modes like IS has incredible depth even outside of playing actual stages very well
Well it's mostly tedious when you're set up, but getting to the setup can be very tight timing/mechanics wise
mayu played alot of RA, right?
when should i start RA? theres a lot of rewards in here
Not a lot, i'm trying to push past day 500
Which is quite something already, but not as much as the good RA players
well, I know who to ask about RA if I need it I guess 
Ok but you haven’t played danger mode day 6000 therefore you’re bad, drag said so 
hardest challenge possible on the previous CC iteration took two giant strategy groups 4 weeks of playing + 6 months of planning to clear
its an irrelevant goal to basically any normal player but its just an example showing that theres enough complexity to push your goals as far as you want
damn thats kinda crazy
if you just want to get rewards, there is a learning curve but the game is pretty forgiving
CCB4?
is there a pin in a channel i can read up on for RA?
I mean there were max risk clears on week 2
but the current record was set in JP yes 6 months later
i really just want the rewards haha
yea, reg and tsg collabed for the final 7 op clear and got it on the last day
if you just want rewards its way easier
same for IS
thats still considered very lax content
requires some learning of course
damn i didnt even see that that channel. is there something i need to check off to get all these channels?
i wonder if wis is a roach because she’s the skill floor of brainrot and filth
No one played RAcc 6k days 
wait there's a cheatsheet for IS clearing rewards? 
technically yes
Ok but drag did (in his dreams)
uh not really
i guess IS5 feels like a cheat with node refreshing
other than that its just grinding but its not hard
Pretty sure the good players are pushing 1.4-1.5k day count right now
the cheatsheet is knowing the map 
collect my hands
playing 1 run for ~45 mins is 
where was that 14 hr is5 run ss again
high end players easily spend 3-4 hours per run
it just tracks how long since the run was started
not time spent actually playing or even on the IS menu
this is why we need to ban pausing in IS!
Makes sense
nuh uh not touching that
for the perfectionists
with a 1.5 week account I can already beat is3, 4 and 5 low diff so I'm sure it's just patience and some experience 
you can play D18 and not spend that long
but it probably means you're playing on a coinflip
What about an hour per raid in RA instead then 
I can say I have decent ops for IS but the hard part is the motivation to play it 
just let me do it I love IS
So long as you have a decent roster and an understanding of the mechanics it should be fun

honestly I thought IS was bs before I understood it
I only haven’t played much of actual is beside the borrows because I have stuff on way higher prio
but like it’s pretty fun from my short lived experience
congrats so does most of the playbase
love you too light 
just look at the takes on that one reddit post complaining about raidian
don’t remind me..
well they never come around to understanding that its not bs*
i understand not enjoying the gamemode and i understand disliking how raidian was locked behind is6 but a lot of the comments there displayed an incredible misunderstanding of the mode
Yep, as always, kruger was right
its okay getting your skull caved in by quilon is a rite of passge
might want to get some coaching for ED4 for sure
pathing, drafting, and even playing the map
🌲 🌲 🌲
is shining worth investing even as e1
is petal the most oppressive relic
no they made petal 2 for is6 
is6 ed5
damn she got it tough
I'm scared of coaching
I'm a dumbass and I cry if people yell at me 
aw shit
idk if its obligatory or optional
but its pretty bad on the hard settings
basically petal2 and superlargeegg2
isnt is6 less hope starved in general though
dlc2 is stupidly hard overall tho from what ive seen
is6 gets you in a far more nefarious way
voucher drought
they changed voucher drops from previous ISes
interesting, havent played it much so this is new to me
F4+ maps used to give more diversity so you could finish your line up easier
now you best draft BIS or get fucked cuz you aint getting the voucher again
my issue with is6 is either not getting the vouchers I need at the right time or not doing enough damage prob cus skill issue
Quilon is basically
A solve for quilon
A solve for healing his thingies
A solve for p2 quilon
Optionally a left side solve for p1 quilon but it's a relatively easy job with lamp route imo
and mon3tr basically fulfills all of those
what a broken operator
Requires basically 3 dpses, 2 medics, 1-2 agents
1 medic+dps Mon3tr possible if you are schizo
I use silence bro
and I'm not that schizo I very much am
silence is one of the best for ED4
Yeah silence/pure are very decent for the job
still m3 is preferable
also available for 30$ rn
silence purestream should work for more
eyja2 is luxury but good to have with melee comps
hm, wonder if faceoff rec will change from leftside for 2 tongbao to rightside for 2 vouchers after dlc2
yeah I don't think I can use eyja2 cus don't have her
idk i dont play
its almost always gonna be tongbao i think
good tongbao are run winning
guys...help me decide
u see i have a starting acc lvl 28
it has sash 2 pot 2, pram2, and suzu
I made an alt last week
now it has wisadel, sash2, and pram2 should i just give it up to the roach
i guess rightside is only taken if you're really screwed by voucher rng and are trying to desperately fish out the ones you need then
yes, pots are meaningless and lvl28 is a baby account
If that's all you have on the other account, i would just jump ship and use the alt instead
my icebreak medals tho 😭
the roach calls for you
Do you need to be friends in order to send clues? Cuz I am missing o ly 1 which is the number 1
Can someone be a dear add friend me and send me 1 clue?
You’re already missing years of medals. What’s one more event?
#friend-id and #trading-post get to it
i skipped IB medals because id rather lose clout than play with those animals smh
you gonna love stronghold protocol

Light what exactly do you play
get out of my head get out of my head
Should've asked, i would've cleared with you schro 
How much extra atk% per enemy does pram2 get from her module?
3%
Hmm
is vetochki decent/good def if no cuora
no you'd rather use the 3 stars
use spot/noir for now
damn
vetoch for killing, cuora for tanking. so no 
bubble is good too but rather have cuora
light is an is5 tournament prodigy
broke a record in kazdel kasino 2
I see, thanks
so I can bother him with IS5 stuff
you already know what i'm going to say!
will dlc2 in IS6 affect previous floor's stages or just add the boss stuff?
it'll add more stages
but for general content no dont use her
every DLC adds new stages I guess
or am I crazy?
yes it does
no that sounds right
and also tweaks some node mechanics
Might be having a brain fart atm but I am sure that before dlc1 stages were different
still crazy tho
adds relics / changes node generation sometimes
but existing stages themself dont usually change
light in iscmt when
what
what is iscmt
D18 introduces a mechanic similar to routeweave net in is4
on F4 and later every stage has something new
Stage alters and boss stage alters or smthing
i have cantabille mod1 but is mod 3 worth the upgrade? its 6 aspd, 6%dmg and +15 atk
no
if you're pushing content where it matters you will probably do it yourself
not the place
learn some patience
Sorry just really like the character
its not about patience and you dont need to include reason
just keep it in the above mentioned channels
brave man
Yeah must have lost my mind for a sec couldn't help it sorry wont happen again
how do you add someone with id? Like where's the option for that
you can just paste in their id
same way you search name
The same way you add using ign
tried it and didnt work, probably did something wrong then
Are there any OPs besides Gnosis, Angelina, Cheeto, Mizuki and Hool that have IS modules?
kaltsit
doesnt phantom have one too
you could also filter with tomimi.dev
oh the header is just Specialized
Is that the first normal/elite immune to lure in global ? I can't think of anything else

Best skill for SA Alter?
I feel like I never tested but can you bind boat? lol
s3 in general, s2 if you wanna run specific squad for it
For Phantom when it says he can " summon a clone with the same abilities as Phantom", 'abilities' in this context is....his currently selected skill?
you can prob count the number of enemies immune to bind with your own hands, right? 
Tragodia can always find a skill to use 
I recently discovered the IS6 dragons can actually eat his cages tho he can just creates another I guess? so who knows
I can only truly think about 1 enemy that can get immune to bind
I mean, why wouldn't it
It's technically blocking it
just feels like it's eating the air
who to use?
For people who said to give up and don't pull for pramalt cause I won't get her now due to the fact that I keep getting offrate and sashalt
DONT EVER GIVE UP HAHAHAHAHHAHA
390 DRAWS I GOT HER HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Also who to prio now 🧍
Don’t spam and keep unnecessary commentary out of the question please
Oh after pram who next? Texas or Virtuosa
did you spark texalt over pram ? 
300 spark for a mr boom 
? No i didn't spark Texas alter
I sparked lappland alter, I got the other offrate limiteds from the banner pulls
virtuosa if you want pseudo true damage
Pram > texalt, don't even consider virt for now, you don't need the small amount of elem damage she will give you
I mean atleast I got all of them now
If I wanted to buy the kernel selector to get an older OP for IS shenanigans, who would you suggest I get? I already have Angie and Gnosis, so other than them.
On my own I think I would pick Mizuki or Cheeto.
Hmmm okok
those two probably and maybe kal
Would pick mizuki > cheeto, you can consider kal too, especially if you don't have chetto drafts
...I keep forgetting I have Kal heh
phantom like a real is3 head
Cheeto is technically higher skill ceiling
Mizuki on fraud watch for high end right now
chetto has the big upside of being very fun to play
But for low end Mizuki is broken
passenger for RA and a certain other mode
Cheeto is unfortunately not just slop
👀coming in 4 days
I know Cheeto pairs with Lemon. Who else?
how many sugar packs should i farm from this event before it just becomes unnecessary? i have like 241 rn
In the kernel banner who's a good operator to get there?
And while being a medic since I know there's only 3 medics there
But I mean just for the general game
Should i buy pulls from yellow cert shop or wait for good ops?
Are you trying to pull?
Do you have 258?
sakiko m3 mostly
ange trag for older iterations
sneg tin man and kroos for the lower rarities
And how many pulls do you have
Yes
Then it’s fine to buy out right now
Monster, saki, wis/rosmo can work too, but it's not that good imo
Tuya/hoshi2 are decent off.rec
105
Which IS gnosis is particularly good on
And outside of those ones how does he perform in other ones
just good with sa2 in general
Should have enough time to technically get all 3 even if you buy out right now
I already have logos. Is he coming later or earlier
Hm, I actually have a fair amount of options that I could use with Cheeto then.
there's no point to autofarm EX event nodes, nor no point to their challenge, right ?
CM for more OP
that's one clear, not auto tho right?
yeah one and done
Literally just do them twice for normal and challenge for the event shop and
and hop off
No point autofarm when there’s nothing to begin with
There's also a few 4* drafts like may, humus, sneg
And things like entel s1, etc
Sash and pram decent freeze comp
IS6 he’s used
IS5 I don’t think so
IS4 is dated at this point so a lot of stuff is viable
IS3 not sure
any knowers for this
which characters should i prioritise e2 rn https://www.krooster.com/u/agile-mint-ashlock-62bo
yeah was just making sure incase one specifically would have something special
You're good then
If you want to be sure, make a planner and check
But 250 should be plenty
Raise your baseslaves first, check #bot-spam /base and /baseskills
I would e2 pram > kal > monster
Raise your ops to skill level 7 if you use them too
how do I unlock this stage
play darknight memoir until you see it
what is that is it normal story stage?
an event already in record
is it worth using gold certs on lee right now or is there something better coming
uhh I have 0/2 record rn how do I get more
It's part of a side story. Darknights Memoire is the name of it.
Red certs
you wait next week
there is absolutely better stuff coming
lee isn't even worth considering tbh
I wouldn't pay 35 gold certs for him
Even if no ops were ever added to cert shop ever again, lee wouldn't be worth 180 certs
That's 27 pulls
the disks refresh weekly
Wait until next weekly reset
I am half asleep again 
tomimi glazer is confusing info fragments for the discs
I didn’t have my coffee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNSVCPlI83M this seem fun make me not sure 300 ticket trade in for lapland alt or muel muels
You all baited me into buying Mumu from the shop, and now I am out of orundums for Wang.
Muelsyseless start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfxb8Pi5hsw
#Arknights #SunlitPeak
bait
Lappalt is better for gen content
Muelsyse is niche but better for "endgame" content
is pram alter worth it if i already have lin?
always worth it
i'd pay 45 gold certs for lee cuz pot 6
Does lapp alter mod aspd affect S3? I assume not?
S3 has 2 part, the DOT effect is fixed interval, then the normal attack tick still scale with attack speed
meaning in reality, that 10 attack speed is more like 6% dps up
Who to change for wisadel?
Gravel 
bro is still running flag pipe
Sash2 and Flagpipe is overkill 
Who supposed to go there 😂
wisadel
Who should I use my senior operator skill training pack?
Someone didn’t read sash2’s talent/skills 
none of these bums
they're not a horrible use of the mastery pack but def replaceable
would just save it tbh
Same I’d save it too
Does merchants have any place in the meta?
maybe only jaye
meta? no
jaye is alright for his cost
mr nothing can permastall something with exu2
swire has a goodish IS module and good in stronghold protocol
lee was good in is3 but is a bit outdated there now
Mercenary 6* gonna show how it's done 
merchants just take all your money DP for a unit that is kinda mid at best
jaye is atleast cheap, can silence or heal himself/others 
Is anyone aware of any sort of reasoning as to why deploying a Raidian S3 summon in the tile directly above her would cause it to immediately force retreat?
Before I chalk it up as a bug or something, report it and move on
CEOBE ALT OR BAGPIPE ALT
lee had a use?...how? why?
so why doesn't #friend-id allow us to just send our ingame profile image instead of plain text? for visual purposes and proof
2nd module
Check what module she's using
Hot take, ptlopsis alt
With sp regen talent aswell
solves the last knight + stops jellyfish in ed4
lee vs last knight simulator is still on tomimi.dev 😭
isnt ptilopsis alt already a thing
oh wait nvm, that was perfumer alt
ptilo alt would go insane tho, sp bs
Or mabye silence alt
gotta do with some drone tech I hope
I don't believe I ever manually changed it to her second but honestly I don't know why I didn't think of that sooner, probably the case, thanks
it auto equips when you unlock it 😭 change it outside IS and it should default to first module still
That would explain it, om
Wdym nowadays
He always been
-# fae always making me depressed
Very much so 
I have fun with Swire2 S2 but like practically I can't run it most of the time 
Lee has always been mid, doesn't even deserve to be called washed, since it implies he was useful at some point
He has niche uses against low weight enemies, but that's really whatever
I wish her S3 was better tbh it’s her most fun for me
Is the only way to beat the wonderland map with the enemies that drain dp placing a vanguard and killing the praying enemy?
it is satisfying to press after charging 
merchants will become good once chen4 comes out
Monhun collab will have op merchant trust
yo fae what is a secretly good pick in IS? 
Or have that coin that gives you tons of DP right away
The map kinda stun lock you if you don't have any answers for it
Ave Band
oh shut up
nvm
wisadel is a sleeper pick
BAGPIPE HOLDING GUNLANCE SHOOTING WYVERN FIRE
Or the swordaxe I forgot the English name
Switch Axe, idk who would use it tho
Raidian with -summon dp cost relics
ed2 relic works too
Exu2 works
Just have DP pots smh
Is it worth sparking reed alt on the new banner??
I do have 360 gold certs (so I still have extra when ascalon comes around again) BUT I do eventually plan on getting Titi so I’m unsure how necessary
No
Ok good to know
Thankies
Which of Saria's modules is better in most cases?
mody1
I need suggestions to give one guy a team, I am not sure who else to add. Second screenshot is what I am thinking of right now
(Ash alter -> Base, Decadenza -> 5* version)
You can't replace the alter with their non alter version if thats what your saying
how lnog does it take for an OP to appear in cert shop
Quick Question. the event chapter that unlock later are they gonna be harder than OS-EX-8?
2years after debut
More or less 2 years after debut
Silverash alter is a vangaurd and "base" silver ash is a gaurd with a completely different role
add silence and laplland
No I am just trying imitate like I have them (I dont)
what 4 stars should i build for good base skill
hi guys are there any sneg builders here
what mastery does she want, or is it m6
Assuming you meant 5* > Decandenza and not the other way around
The squad is okay
Add Tequila, don't bother with Perfumer, just use Silence and Ptilopsis that you get later on the Voucher
Add Bubble for 2nd Blocker
Roberta doesn't really do much, better to add Kroos and Krooster
The right side is your account i suppose ?
Roberta/cutter/snowhunter have nothing to do there
Ditch gummy for spot instead, you need to e1 him for base anyway
the squad should be sash/pram/lappalt/myrtle/silence/humus/kroos/kroosalter/tequila, e1 perfumer for now, they'll replace her with ptilo with day7 selector
Did they pick their selector yet ?
roberta more used in IS yea
Can use noir/bubble for early brick needs too
Yesh I suppose I shouldnt have sent my team sketch just to not confuse everyone, my bad
Is totter better than platinum
I mean, there's like only guy who didn't understand
The explanation was understandable
I still do not understand it
I'd raise Astegnne2 tbh, atleast e1
Not much other option anyway
I tried showing the box of the player that would want help and second screenshot is my sketch of a potential team thinking I would need suggestions.
And I sure needed seeing the responses
the way they perform are very different, in some situations totter can be infinitely better (attacks invis) or infinitely worse (can’t hit row in front) than platinum
generally it’s still comparing ass to shit, don’t invest in either too much and focus on better operators once you get them, they get the job done early on but you’ll drop them soon enough
I get that part. Was more confused about why you were saying the alter counterparts when they don't really do the same thing.
mentally replace silverash with his alter, it’s a hypothetical
(i think that’s what he’s getting at)
I was trying to say "imagine if that ash alter was base"
That's not the point...
He's just using it because he don't own them for some reason just to convey that they should be using it for the team example
Totter is more relevant than Platinum
Platinum is just a generic AA Sniper, she doesn't really do anything else
Totter has some niche uses with Attacking Invis enemy, so he can have uses when the situation comes, unlike Platinum
also since you have lappalt and pram you probably don't need to worry about drones all that much
Especially that uh encounter before is4ed4
just a 3* kroos should do the trick if you really need it (and totter can take care of the ones further away)
Yeah its just my newbie selector wasnt for Silver Ash, it was for Blaze. Thankfully it didnt really matter at the end of the day, my account is stacked.
this is truly a exu2 sa2 combo
“I do NOT need early defense, just give me 3 seconds!”
ok i googled and wtf her s1 is so shit
is she just s2m3 or is s1m1 copeable
I forgot, rosmo skill in IS5 is S2?
usually, yeah
I just returned after like 6 months of quitting is she good
good, not broken
And when will she be good or is she good by default
good at e1
I’d say she’s kinda broken
ok you would put her at like top 10 maybe yeah?
Doesnt Ines and Ash Alter provide early defense? Am I stupid
Top 10 no 
nah im just not too sure if shes top 10
Pram2 is one of the top casters in the game atm. At S2 she comes with slow and great AoE damage on a comfy AFK skill (S2).
just curious what do you get for returning? is there returning player event
id argue she’s not even like top 20, she’s just an afk caster with decent damage and melee unit slow util
every single one of those stages that are dependent on the days that they are supposed to appear are all temporarily open for a while
not to say she’s bad, the top 20 are just that good
yes there is, free mats for doing stuff, some pull currency, etc and resource stage being all open
the chip stages red cert stage etc
super big cup wise she's not top 20(but even wis is barely 36)
but otherwise she murders gen content and has high end usage
You can just drop Pram2 somewhere and once S2 activates she'll pretty much kill most enemies. I dunno how she is against bosses offhand. Great at clearing crowds of enemies though.
great for annihilation
top 2 gotta be tragodia and wang or something
its like people love pretending logos does more damage when they have comparable burst while her afk is like three million miles ahead
outside of literally any case besides afk slop i can think of dozens of operators id choose before her
but 20 operators? which ones
You get these by playing stages, not much but it’s enough for me to get going
probably top caster at least
if top caster isn't top 20 its because casters suck 😔
As a bonus Pram2 S2 can also freeze the Blue Box, turning it into a generic 3 block defender.
the chen toilet strat
no way beginners get 1 ceu??? 
Guys, how do CC work?
I tried the Alter team but the Morale consumption is still at 0.25 not 0.75
What are the best defender drafts for IS6?
hoshi and thats it
gummy to save hope ig
private server 
Which hoshi?
hoshi2
Chillchuck? Hes good?
his dp regen is kinda broken actually
damn i missed that collab unit
yeah not top 20 is a bit of an exaggeration
like unironically chilcuck's dp regen is stupid if you're willing to reset for his talent
because it makes his dp cost close to free
modern ops crushing old cc,how shocking
Yeah, I was confused.
I can understand why you wouldn't put her at top 5.
But she's such a fantastic combo of fuck off damage, CC, and being deceptively bulky.
You realise she completely took over what Logos used to be
How is Pram2's DPS with S3?
Tragodia existing and Pram2 existing means Logos might as well not xd
pram dps is on par if not better than logos s3
while also having lure
It’s kinda crazy
She's also easier to use.
and snow tiles
and scaling better with buffs
she has lured?
Logos has a minor tendency of dying horribly if enough things look at him the wrong way.
that's like most ranged unit
Pram2 is the same
Comparable to Logos S3 burst and higher total dmg with more enemies. She has a free revive and freeze too if things go south during 
if you're willing to plan things you her self revive freeze can be used for another bonus res debuff
most ops do
i mean projectile slowdown skill 3 with 4 enemy targeting and elemental damage…
Better defense stat + revive freeze gives her a lot more effective bulk to work with.
Pram2 revive esp with Silverash is pretty darn strong
Especially when she can also kill everything at the same time
projecting slowdown is novelty
4 targets when pram2 is true aoe 
If she's already killed once, what made you think whoever killed her won't just kill her again after
you know that cannon firing from the throns alter event when it gets slowed down by logos s3 its very funny
It comes up in that one IS6 map favoring ranged units with all those drones.
This violates server rule 5. Don't bring it up again
wtf we arguing about now
They’re frozen and if you’re using S3 they are getting nuked like crazy
personally? trag sakiko exualt ines sash2 wisadel shu mon3tr hoshialt ulpianus mlynar leizialt lemuen ela haruka ascalon probably even vulpis naran eblana, not to mention cn ops
solely because 90% of her schtick is just afk, maybe her slow can be useful but i do not see her doing allat, especially if there’s a decently tanky ranged enemy who will just run her down
Oh I didn’t realise okay mb
someone said pram is outside top 20
this is so fire
many are saying vulpis > pram
Why are we arguing about operator rankings
We've been over this time and time again
We're done
vulpis who
Who should I replace the snow leopard girl with
Doesn't really change the point that they already killed her once, it means her dmg isn't enough in the first place to prevent them from killing her
Like the Revival is nice, but it's not really something that significant
who invited rosmontis to the team
most likely your courier…?
Ok
does e1 virt even do anything?
who invited gracebearer
Courier serves more purpose than Rosmo
i didn’t rank them smh someone just asked me to list 20 ops id rather take over pram2
gracebearer e1 is a fine early carry
Have you used her 
Also not everything has a constant damage and maybe it’s just 1 massive nuke
E1 Virt does 12k Ele Dmg!
Pram 2 survivability is really good for a caster
thats phalanx caster things
blaze alter can revive infinitely how broken is she as a caster
How good is vulpisfoglia?
Gulp
I'll go ping them in offtopic. 
super. niche.
mid
medium cup 😔
does nothing
Guys doesnt lemuen s2 ignore dodge?? Why doesnt it work on nethersea predators
pretty good, she does her thing and can hold mid pressure lanes
I heard she’s only good in IS
best pioneer, but pioneer is pioneer
just premium pioneer,worse than agent
what is vulp doing in IS
vulp go stop that envy
vulp go stop that broodmother
then so is pram revive, no double standards
now moving on
this is why i made my suggestion regarding the new channel
she needs to mark them, nethersea predatoes arent elites
Oh....bruh aight
is players unable to comprehend new players not touching high level is 🤯
nobody brought up IS btw
someone asked 
can yall fistfight about something interesting rather than a tierlist discussion in disguise
correcting misinfo 
I mean the argue was more on Pram2's Survivability than ranking
what if we don’t argue 🧘♂️
i think we should move to strategy
So I have cantibelle, should I use her over vulpis?
end it already
just take both if you feel like you’re lacking vanguards
Ehh, doesn't matter in general content much.
oh an argue happen
hope its interesting one
too late
DP requirements aren't stringent in general, Vulpisfoglia has advantages, Cantabile has advantages, take your pick if they're both raised.
oh i come too late🥀
if theyre not raised just dont bother with vulpi
I see
she's basically dead weight until e2 yea
pioneers just old design in general 😔
just flag/agent for dp generation
or sa2 if you really need a block 2 early on
and even at e2 shes not that much better than an agent
exactly
vulp s1 and s2 are terrible
chat whats this, this worth?
you can get a random skin at a very slight discount
ya
and its random???
does this thing expire?
yeah, ideally you would only use it if you bought all the cheaper skins
I will only buy that if I completed everything and run out of
honestly
Are there any future banners worth pulling?
da flip this is so bad
upcoming banner priority in roadless in pins
It's a trap yeah.
If you want an older skin it would just be better to wait for the REAL fashion review with SA2 tbh.
Wang is The main target in 3 months
potentially good orienteering banner
Yeah....I wish they'd announce who's on that already.
Too bad
Eben
Hey eben is like top 5 casters with delta module!
is viviana a good dueling option, i mean sometimes i feel like its gonna be nice to have one thats constantly there and surtr dies by herself
Huh?
I’m confused
Not sure where you gonna use dueling out side of that one ra stage but ya vivianna is good at that
wait for chen3
if you want an older skin 15
is cheaper than 2800
plus it's not random
When limited banners happen, a thing called "the fashion review" also happens, which is a rerun of all non-collab skins at least 2(?) years old.
I believe that person was on the TW server, which is like a month(?) behind global. We had that random skin thing back when Mantra Banner was around.
Can you use Trag's S2 to damage the Maiden of Snow and Ice?
i mean sure?
So we are saying that it’s better to just wait for limited banner to buy skins is that it?
15 x 180
2700
Saving 100 
yes that is indeed what cheaper means
Isn’t it happening right now xd
they're playing on TW not global
We're global though.


