help

[urban sleet]

Optimally pulls

[slender temple]

Buy level up pack/ pulls

[scenic yoke]

Dosent exist 🧐

[wanton meadow]

Other than ritualists (and even they don't need lv90) there's no need to push a unit past e2lv60 (except in certain use scenarios but those are rare and you'll know when it happens)

[urban sleet]

Mb replace slave with skill

[scenic yoke]

Ah alright

[vivid geode]

Liskarm specter good pick?

[somber gate]

just read the pin but surely it only specify the s3 > s2 for salter but not which one to prioritize between salter or pramanix alter...? or am i blind

[urban sleet]

How did bro not find it yet smh

[vivid geode]

😭

I'm new to discord's new layout

[slender temple]

What are you talking about again, like who to mastery first or smth

[wanton meadow]

Do pram2 s2m3 first, then sash2 s3m3

[hexed adder]

I don't have problem with my 60 trag so far, definitely not needed

[somber gate]

yeah, im talking who i should mastery first

[urban sleet]

#help message

[frozen dawn]

alr

[wanton meadow]

There's important usecase with trag e2lv88 mod2 or e2lv82 mod3 being able to proc nervous impairment in 1 s2 to bosses

[polar hollow]

hi does raidan have a skin on CN yet?

[hexed adder]

Looks like skill issue

[wanton meadow]

It's not skill issue, it's for difficult content that you're not tackling

[hexed adder]

Which difficult content "im not tackling"

[urban sleet]

I mean you dont rely on trag's dmg on bosses, you use cat for the lure

[sick night]

Mod3 lv82 tragodia without potentials can trigger his impairment in one less attack or s2 vs elites and bosses, so I recommend getting him to that

[wanton meadow]

Yea it's not for the damage, it's for lure + instant nervous on high risk bosses so they can't punch the blocker and instantly delete them

[frigid stream]

pretty sure its the proc that matters not the dmg

[hexed adder]

U didn't answer me smh

[urban sleet]

Nvm I misinterpreted yeah

[fallow salmon]

i am still a bit confused about pramanix s2, what happens when i deactivate it?

[slender temple]

It's deactivated

[urban sleet]

Nothing, skill ends
Its just phalanx casters have increased def and res off-skill

[slate ridge]

trait

[worldly estuary]

It just… don’t longer have her skill active

[static glade]

Nothing happens, just go back to a normal phalanx and recharge that skill

[fallow salmon]

so it has no postivies sides or any scenario where i should deactivate it?

[urban sleet]

Indeed none

[wanton meadow]

Basically stages with bosses with too much damage to tank and is too difficult to keep locked down far from a blocker

[fallow salmon]

so basically never deactivate it and im good? 😂

[static glade]

Like Lin's s1, would you deactivate it

[hexed adder]

Tell me which stages

[wanton meadow]

High risk boss stage stuff etc

[polar hollow]

can I pull one of you into #is-station message thanks

[frigid stream]

max diff cc

[teal ibex]

Virtuosa S1M3 or S3M3 first?

[random mountain]

S1

[hexed adder]

Atk down good job

[frigid stream]

huh.

[hexed adder]

IS? There is tech tree, forget about relics

[shy quiver]

Does this include SilverAsh Alt himself? Am unsure what Kjerag operators are

That's fire. Thanks

[novel stone]

what character farming calc is good/

[restive sedge]

does pram's ice box get healed by skalter?

[slim tusk]

trag breakpoint is overstated

[slate ridge]

huh they have details for Laterano but not Kjerag

[static glade]

People born in kjerag like snow hunter, Matterhorn, courier, pramanix or Steward etc (you can in game for kjerag born Operators)

[wraith shoal]

degen, kjera, sash too

[frigid stream]

I mean trag is trag regaurdless of the breakpoint, not sure why you wouldn't want the breakpoint though

[urban sleet]

Degen is only karlan last I checked

[static glade]

Iirc it only applies to kjerag born and Degen is from leithanein

[wraith shoal]

they'll change the karlan to kjerag iirc. Karlan will be a subfaction

[urban sleet]

Its not a current thing regardless

[spice portal]

Anyone know when we get Lappland Alter Event Rerun and Lessing Event Record Restoration?

[static glade]

Oh really? Nice buff to Degen ig

[wraith sentinel]

The former will be after this event sometime.

[sick night]

Kjerag is where they’re from, it includes the original silverash, pramanix, their alters and gnosis notably

[wanton meadow]

I'm not a max risk player so i can't recite it off the top of my head but iirc the most recent usecase was 7-18 max risk holo?

[wraith shoal]

lessing is bad anyway, why do you want him

[spice portal]

Im welfare only 😛
And i need him

I even have M9 Vigil

[coarse tide]

Shileds?

[hexed adder]

for low ops lv matter most of the times, but for most ppl that shit doesn't matter

[urban sleet]

@abstract mauve your successor 🥹

[wraith shoal]

zwilingsturme is next in line for restoration so probably pretty soon

[warm tide]

Dude why did i receive defeat/mission failed when karlan saintess had her hp go down to 0,Ain't she supposed to revive after that? (all non boss unit were defeated)(so basically 91/93)

[spice portal]

That i know 🙂
But still would have been good to know...

[wraith sentinel]

The stage has a time limit, did you maybe hit that?

[hexed adder]

And u dont need lv max trag on that

[rain forge]

Degen is part of karlan trade and karlan trade is part of kjerag iirc

[warm tide]

Ah?

[random mountain]

Check #game-news

[gray grove]

what is the core character formation of a squad?

[static glade]

Mb mb I thought it only applies to characters whose birth place is kjerag

[spare jetty]

define "core character"

[wanton meadow]

Hey the guy was asking if it's worth taking ops to 90 and all i said was only ritualists have use for level past e2lv60 other than specific usecases like def cutoffs which are rare

[vivid geode]

Silverash alter and pramis alter is a fund duo

[gray grove]

like how many vanguard anti air smth like that

[spice portal]

Already did but didnt say anything.
Atleast not about Lessing RR

[random mountain]

Exactly, no news

[spare jetty]

1 vg

[hexed adder]

And i said skippable, plenty way to work around with it

[slender temple]

You just needs operators that kill things, that's it, the rest are optional

[wraith sentinel]

Eight minutes, all stationary bosses have a time limit.

[spare jetty]

others is up to you

[gray grove]

ow ok thanks

[wanton meadow]

Bro was asking if there's a use to it, i gave a use to it. Idk why you're making it like i was saying something wrong.

[slow lava]

any other place i can earn chip catalysts without spending red and yellow certs

[hexed adder]

??? U dont need it

[light latch]

IS

[wraith shoal]

IS and annihilation first clears

[slate ridge]

?

[wanton meadow]

You also don't need any 6* in the game to clear most stuff, i don't see your point

[wraith shoal]

what in the vanguardknights is this

[warm tide]

Didn't know that 💀

[static glade]

I mean frozen immune is a really good buff on annoying stages

[hexed adder]

U admit urself thats funny lmoa

[frigid stream]

You're just rage baiting

[wanton meadow]

Nah i just don't understand why you're arguing with me when the original asker asked if there's a usecase for a level past e2lv60

[paper swan]

How does Trag's S3 combo with Mantra's S3?

[sick night]

It’s also very useful for pramanix since she freezes when she revives herself

[urban sleet]

I returned from #is-station and see this

[static glade]

Yup true 🔥

[hexed adder]

And that usecase doesn't matter most of the time

[wraith sentinel]

Gnosis Talent 2 powercreep.

[wanton meadow]

You should tell them that, not me

[urban sleet]

No its mostly you

[hexed adder]

U replied to me idk

[wraith sentinel]

The fact that it doesn't matter most of the time doesn't mean it isn't a use case that they can be made aware of.

[wanton meadow]

I specifically said it's a small usecase too, i don't see how i could've been more clear

[sick night]

It’s definitely worth mentioning that ritualists have a usecase for getting close to max level, idk why you’e digging into them

[hexed adder]

Holographic not really good case (u dont even need that breakpoint), max risk CC its quite obvious. Except CC7

[wraith sentinel]

You can wait for a Kernel Locating banner with a better pool.

[ashen surge]

What stage is best for farming the new event currency?

[paper swan]

Not yet Ferb

[hexed adder]

Other are skippable

[slender temple]

OS7/8

[paper swan]

Check /eventfarm in #bot-spam for more info

[sick night]

Yeah, wait for kernel locating and snipe the operator you want

[wraith sentinel]

21st of this month I think.

[frigid stream]

do yall use sash alt s3 more often than s2?

[urban sleet]

I use s2

[wraith sentinel]

I like S2 more.

[slender temple]

I use S1

[static glade]

Never touched it once since I got him

[sick night]

I use S3 but most people prefer S2 from what I see

[sage torrent]

Hello gang its me again, the unlucky one, how good is SilverAsh alter because for some freaking reason they give me him instead of Pramanix

[wanton meadow]

Personally s3 for daily content, s2 for IS

[sick night]

He is amazing and the best vanguard in the game for me

[urban sleet]

Good but shines in hard content

[frigid stream]

Yeah I found it the same. s2 seems to be a bit overkill for gen content

[static glade]

S2 freeze gets the job done

[wanton meadow]

For me it's not the overkill part, i just like the flexibility of s3 not being restricted to the 3 classes that s2 is bound to cos my roster is smaller

[sage torrent]

I see I see

[static glade]

When you're trying to stop a horde or one enemy from approaching you, especially unlockable ones under special conditions

[sage torrent]

Thanks for clarification

[wanton meadow]

And s3 already generates a crapton of dp anyway when it matters the most

[urban sleet]

S2 has no restrictions, only priorities

[somber gulch]

what skill is most used on SA reignfrost?

[granite needle]

I should M3 pram2's S2 right?

[random mountain]

S3

[dry summit]

Hi guys, i don't know who to choose from the Celebration Operator Permit, who would you recommend ?
Here are all my 6* Operator so far

[wanton meadow]

That's the thing, it locks you to the deploy order it wants you to deploy in, and during daily stages where most of the time i trust farm it gets very annoying

[urban sleet]

Bro did not just skip the msgs above him

[cerulean root]

wait what i can pull more than 1 10x on the beginner banner? :O

[neon siren]

Hey, a general question,

Does Atk steal stack?

As in, if I use ines s2 and narantuya on patriot for example, if narantuya steal 30 atk as ines steal 30atk, does patriot loose 60atk or 30atk only?

This is during ines skill activation, not during cd

[urban sleet]

You said you have a small roster, how are you getting locked out of other classes

[frigid stream]

I mean you can ignore it but yeah, I can kinda see what you mean

[static glade]

It's called stealing, ofc it stacks

[wanton meadow]

Trust farm lower rarities and stuff

[pallid creek]

New annihilation reset is in 2 weeks, right?

[urban sleet]

[wanton meadow]

Like i bring shirayuki and boom i can't deploy ulpi or pram2

[neon siren]

Hmm? Alr

[wanton meadow]

It's just too much of hassle for daily imo

[urban sleet]

Robbery has no limits

[neon siren]

[urban sleet]

Apart from minimum 5% atk mechanic

[static glade]

Amiya guard passive is amazing

[humble nova]

So uhm yall, you can use mumu to make all ur ops cost 0 right? Then allow sash2 s2 to make them all gain slash charges.
Thats bonkers aint it

[frigid stream]

is it possible to change the order sash2 s2 lowers dp cost for same dp guards?

[humble nova]

Sash2 lowers the unit in the priority it says on the skill and nearest to the eye of the storm, anything above 14/15(?)* dp

[static glade]

Have to control it by deploying ops

[humble arrow]

is it ordered by alphabet

[humble nova]

By cost

[humble arrow]

after dp and class

[humble nova]

Hmm

[frigid stream]

Yeah i know, this was more cope on my side since I had SA and sakiko both at 20 dp and it SA is closer

[humble arrow]

its a chinese game so I assume not

[kindred plover]

Hallo :D quick question, should i save my kernal headhunt for a future better kernal banner? I have surtr (just not built)

[humble nova]

Thats very easy, if u read how the skill works

[wraith shoal]

is tin man any good outside IS5 or only in there?

[static glade]

The cheaper ones and priotized class gets discounted first, if everything is on the left side of the eye, the right one nearest to the eye and prioritized class gets discounted first

[vale dock]

save for kernel locating

[humble arrow]

no one knows and I asked this a few times alr

[frigid stream]

Yeah its more how does the ordering for the deployment zone work when ops have same dp cost and class I think.

[humble nova]

I think its rng atp

[chrome epoch]

guard/sniper/caster > who is closest to the eye maybe?

[kindred plover]

Do you have the next kernal locating date? Or is it pinned somewhere here

[humble arrow]

theres a lot of 23 cost guards and its making it hard for my degen

[frigid stream]

its not rng

[split forge]

how good is windchime? or rather how bad

[wraith sentinel]

21st of this month I believe, it's in the ingame news at least if you scroll down.

[severe crypt]

Baaaad

[frigid stream]

shes buns

[humble arrow]

kinda bad in comparison to her competitors

[kindred plover]

Ah alright ty!!

[static glade]

I have a 23 dp blaze and 23 dp Irene, but Irene is the last besides blaze, so alphabetically

[sick night]

God awful

[split forge]

that’s tragic 🥀

[sick night]

I could not believe how bad windchime is when I used her tbh

[humble arrow]

but its a chinese game is it really in english alphabet order

[split forge]

she looks sooo good tho 😔

[frigid stream]

The code isn't written in chinese bro

[static glade]

This is the en version

[sick night]

I know man, it’s a shame fr

[humble arrow]

I'd expect it to be the same between no?

[static glade]

Idk anything abt the cn one

[sick night]

I mean her art looks good btw not her kit

[humble arrow]

fact

[split forge]

how awful are we talking tho

[humble arrow]

its usable ig

[wraith sentinel]

※The order of selection of fee reduction effects: Eye of the Wind and Snow The nearest guard/caster/sniper operator on the right (class level) > the nearest other operators on the right > the nearest operator on the left; after the fee is reduced, immediately rearrange the area to be deployed, and then use the new fee to determine the attack effect given to other operators
MTL from prts.wiki.
The game by itself already has a sorting mechanism for operators with the same DP costs.

[wanton meadow]

We know it has a sorting mechanism, the question is what's the ordering logic?

[humble nova]

Whats some good low rarity ops that synergizes well with sash2 s2? Ik melantha is a great one for her high atk and low mat reqs

[split forge]

gravel isn’t too bad

[slate ridge]

Havent checkee SA2 but this is default

[humble arrow]

the 5 star ones with atkboosting skills

[humble nova]

Oh I already use her too

[slate ridge]

I'll do it later

[slender temple]

Any fast redeploy atp

[humble nova]

I use her for freeze tho rather than her atk but also bait

[chrome epoch]

gravel if you want to proc freeze for whatever reason

[wanton meadow]

Why gravel specifically, she's just an frd for that case

[split forge]

yea that’s why

[humble nova]

Hm fair

[wanton meadow]

She doesn't exactly bring anything other frd doesn't for sash s2

[chrome epoch]

there's not really that many low rarities with good atk stat

[humble arrow]

just use yato alter for the cost reduction

[open raven]

Red Texas yato any frd with higher attack to get large burst

[humble nova]

Does this mean building red is now justified 🥹

[slender temple]

0/10 rage bait, you're not even trying anymore dude

[chrome epoch]

redd has always been a decent pick

[split forge]

she’s just a decent frd for low rarity anyways. might as well use her for more dmg

[wanton meadow]

Enlighten me then, idm being wrong but pls explain

[humble nova]

Gravel is also just one of the best bait frd cuz of her s2 and she can also reduce my mylnars deployment cd

[humble nova]

Texas2 should also work right

[static glade]

As you can see Narantuya is N and Ptilopis is P, N comes before P same with Amiya with Lappland and Blaze with Irene, it's alphabetical, tho idk much abt Chinese version

[wanton meadow]

You call me ragebait, so here's a peace offering. Please, enlighten me, I'm here to learn

[zinc crown]

Texas1 isn’t an frd

[cyan owl]

Should I invest in Virtuosa? What are her usage?
(I don’t have Nymph)

[frigid stream]

Doesn't seem to be alphabetical. I think it actually might be release order. Probably and int ID has their release dates.

[humble nova]

Well they just suggested normal texas so I figured her alter would also work cuz its a frd

[regal pilot]

help logos, cheese damage reflection enemies

[open raven]

No I did not suggest Texas base lmao I said frd as in the fast redeploy

[chrome epoch]

you can kinda sorta maybe since she's a vg

[humble nova]

Maybe cuz texas1 has high atk..?

[cyan owl]

No Logos, he abandoned me 5 times.
Might roll for him after Wang though.

[humble nova]

Oh br

[sacred flume]

don't bother, she's not that good

[chrome epoch]

yeah, great cc and elemental dmg

[humble arrow]

Does using logos s3 make nymph s3 a lot stronger?

[cyan owl]

What a mixed selection of perspectives…

[split forge]

gravel is a useful frd even before sa2. and since her fast cooldown + low cost complements his s2, gravel is one of the better low-rarity choices. i think

[humble arrow]

Virtuosa is very good sometimes...

[humble nova]

Shes also the best bait for nukes

[proven kelp]

I would rather just use Sash2 s3 than use s2 when my only atk options is Gravel

[static glade]

Alphabetically

[frigid stream]

Its not

[wanton meadow]

Yea but that's true for all frd tho, what does gravel bring to the table that other frds don't in context of sash2 s2?

[humble nova]

True, sash2 s2 is reliant in team composition

[static glade]

Explain this

[proven kelp]

Gravel's pathetic atk won't do jack when his s2 scale on hers

[humble nova]

True but it applies freeze so its whatever and the atk is just extra stuff its still DMG

[cyan owl]

Figurino is there, I suppose.
Or any frd with decent damage, being Red, Mr Nothing, maybe Waai Fu?
Canta S1 works too, I suppose.

[split forge]

we don’t really have good frd in th way of low rarity/easy to raise. and since many people already have her raised, seems logical to make use of her

[light latch]

Correlation != causation

[humble arrow]

small sample size tbh

[slate ridge]

should i send this again

[chrome tiger]

hi what are we on today

[frigid stream]

I have silverash, thorns, then sakiko for mine.

[split forge]

can u get it pinned?

[cyan owl]

Hear me out: merchants with SA alt s2.

[polar hollow]

hi how do I not explode here (everyone's e1 except exu)

[chrome tiger]

what does that achieve like at all

[proven kelp]

And S3 applies Fragile, much better on most cases since it's not limited to Arts dmg inc, and it doesn't get fucked if the enemies are Freeze immune

[frigid stream]

The ordering is most likely based on Release order, when the operators came out. that matches with your ss

[humble arrow]

try and 2 cycle the boss with exualt

[split forge]

i just surround the boss with raidian s2 and spam

[wanton meadow]

So it's an issue of availability, not cos gravel is especially better with sash2 s2 compared to other frd?

[cyan owl]

Frd nukes I supposed.

[chrome tiger]

merchant has piss base atk

[split forge]

essentially yes. if u have better units, make use of them

[static glade]

;-;

[slate ridge]

its not release order
its unit id
year 2 ops can have higher unit id than year 4 ops

[cyan owl]

Wait, I thought it’s pretty high, no?

[humble nova]

THAT MAYBWORK CUZ SASH2 DOESNT CARE ABOUT DP although they take dp away so we might need a dp source unless u make the merchant team 0 cost but meaning u have to go through every slot unless you put a minimum squad limit

[polar hollow]

does that still work for e1 raidan though

[chrome tiger]

no it's pretty bad

[split forge]

i think so? depends on diff tho. if it’s high it won’t rlly work well

[cyan owl]

Merchant takes 3 DP every 3 seconds.
SA s2 takes 1.1 to fires.
Hence you only lose DP on the deployment, not from their trait.

[humble arrow]

sash 2 does care about dp

[frigid stream]

Yeah that was my second guess. I thought the unit id was based on increasing order of release. Where does it say this though?

[light latch]

Dont merchants also not refund dp when retreated

[humble nova]

Does each merchant stack tho?

[humble arrow]

yes

[chrome tiger]

ofc

[rain forge]

wouldnt work

[split forge]

@polar hollow this is good strat

[rain forge]

SA s2 doesnt produce dp

[chrome tiger]

also merchants arent even good targets

[humble nova]

Hm well its interesting team composition

[light latch]

You’re going to quickly run out of dp if you try to cycle merchants i think

[wanton meadow]

Yea then we don't disagree on anything, my questioning comes from a stance that since gravel is recommended first with no roster context i would expect it to be something where there's actually sauce in there

[rain forge]

there are like 0 good merchants

[slate ridge]

every wiki should have their 3-4 digit number

[chrome tiger]

they cost like 5 dp and has a 30s rdp

[urban sleet]

Raidian solos this stage

[humble nova]

-20% frd due to sash2

[rain forge]

the only "good merchant" is lee and in the grand scheme of things he's abysmal dogshit

[cyan owl]

Doesn’t SA alt s2 reduce dp cost?

[rain forge]

merchants eat 3 dp every 3 seconds and it stacks

[humble nova]

Not the problem

The problem is no one is producing dp

[humble arrow]

Thank you 🥺

[chrome tiger]

merchant base dp cost is like 5-10

[split forge]

oh right. yea. it’s just general advice coming from the assumptions that they have gravel raised + not much better alternatives

[light latch]

every merchant eats 3dp/s and you’re required to keep them on board for 1.1s before they fire

[humble arrow]

merchants tend to want to stay on field for a bit for any value anyways

[split forge]

dw pookie 🥰

[light latch]

Not refunding dp cost just makes the problem even worse

[chrome tiger]

if anything chargers are straight up better options because they at least refund dp

[humble arrow]

Just use fast redeploys bro they are called that for a reason

[chrome tiger]

even when the cd is 60s

[urban sleet]

Or yk stop using s2 for its slashes and use it for dp reduction

[humble arrow]

im ngl slashes already useful for just deploying your ops down u dont need to look to use tem repeatedly

[jovial horizon]

hello, which skill should i m3?

[chrome tiger]

it's not like 2 slashes is gonna be of any significant value on 80% of the units in the game anyway

[urban sleet]

This astgenne2 seems to be raised cuz you felt she's good and not cux waifu since not maxpot

[jovial horizon]

got the mats first

[chrome epoch]

but shes 200% trust so there was def original astgenne usage

[urban sleet]

You have a point

[chrome tiger]

fuckk this is a hard one nobody actually care about astgenne alter so idk what her good skill is

[open raven]

Well if your gonna raise her probably just s3

[chrome epoch]

s3

[chrome tiger]

maybe just do s3 or something that's usually the default setting

[urban sleet]

I am pretty sure she uses s2 but let me check

[light latch]

Solution: m9

[wanton meadow]

For sure shileds can answer this

[humble arrow]

i found astgenne really useful when I got her as temp recruit in is3 tbh

[jovial horizon]

to be true i only doing m3 because i have every 6 star with at least 1 m3

[urban sleet]

Shileds has written an essay about her indeed

[jovial horizon]

only to the loved ones

[chrome tiger]

i mean even if she's the posterchild of mediocrity it's still 6* tier mediocrity

[open raven]

Fairly sure most of the clears I saw on arc rec were with s3 but there's not many of those

[static glade]

I feel like astgenne alter s2 is most used

[open raven]

Seems to be that both have niches though

[static glade]

This is what happens when no one gaf abt one operator, you don't know how to use them or what's best for them

[jovial horizon]

this feels like silence alter to me

[wooden hornet]

is it good=)?

[chrome epoch]

based matterhorn

[wanton meadow]

Wait for mr welfareknights so we actually have an informed consensus

[wooden hornet]

[chrome tiger]

omg matterhorn for is6

[timber finch]

i mean, with sash2 matterhorn does gain regen

[chrome tiger]

wait
where module

[wraith shoal]

based kichisei

[wooden hornet]

[chrome tiger]

who gives a shit about regen bro the 4 block count is where it's at

[chrome epoch]

p2 kichisei no haruka/hoshi2? unlucky banner?

[winter crystal]

Matterhorn has is6 ending 4 usage

[urban sleet]

Shileds did praise astgenne2's s2

[open raven]

I saw a couple clears with s3 from welfare knights yesterday but that's all I can say. Both link 2 enemies both have ways to increase length of time on the slow so idk would have to check more on math and what not as well.

[median fable]

just saying, but being good in welfareknight doesn't mean it's good also for general players

Astgenne2 is in the higher end of welfares but I'd struggle recommending her to people, and if I do it will be with low prio

[winter crystal]

Also 2 if used as healer

[urban sleet]

Context was a guy asking which skill to m3 for astgenne2 (alresdy maxed out and wsnt to m3 a skill cuz ocd)

[open raven]

We were talking about someone that was specifically asking what to raise since they already raised her to level 90 e2

[wanton meadow]

The context is the original asker already e2lv90 her, and is asking what to mastery

[open raven]

In no situation am I going to recommend her

[median fable]

yeah Ik, but repeating things never hurt since people forget and just parrot from others. Just added more context on astgenne2 situation

[inland vale]

how's my squad looking on day 2?

can auto SK-5 and 2 out of 3 event farm stages (OS-7 & OS-8) with ease

[median fable]

no e2 6* --> trash
jokes aside, why are you using hibiscus? Shouldn't you have SIlence already? Also midnightkinda iffy

vanilla also kinda a bum

[slender temple]

Bro didn't give him a chance

[frigid stream]

dawgs shitting on his entire roster

[winter crystal]

Between pram S2 and Wis S2 thankfully you won’t have to worry about your team comp for general content for a while but this isn’t optimal

[wraith sentinel]

(I'll just say OS-9 is also easily clearable with only 3*s.)

[inland vale]

i did, but i need to farm tier1 mats first

is it ok to use snegurochka? i don't have any good vgs

[median fable]

I just shitted on 3 operators over 12, it's basically a 75% on how good he did

[glad raptor]

what the best skill for rosmo on IS?

[wanton meadow]

You don't need multiple vanguards, just fang will do

[glad raptor]

2? okay

[median fable]

use fang + cheap operator like noir corne
once you get myrtle from recruit by dp/vanguard+healing tag use her

[winter crystal]

Make sure you have her IS mod unlocked before using in IS

[glad raptor]

...
well fuck im poor, i thought i can just go for it

[winter crystal]

It only costs mod blocks and nothing else

[slender temple]

IS modules cost basically nothing

[glad raptor]

but i need e2 level 60 no

[wraith shoal]

what's the difference between deep exploration and a normal run difficulty wise in IS5?

[winter crystal]

Oh I just assumed, yeah you shouldn’t draft ros if you don’t have her E2 with IS mod

[wanton meadow]

It's basically like a run with specific rules added that's detached from the IS progression/bp system

[lunar apex]

deep exploration is like IS run with specific mission and they often give you certain relics/condition to work with

[glad raptor]

well fuck, is there any event that give bajillion amount of LMD soon?

[wraith shoal]

is it like way more difficult though

[static glade]

What about the current one rn

[winter crystal]

600k during this event

[glad raptor]

gone, for salter and his sister

[lunar apex]

its easier

[wanton meadow]

Nah it's just normal IS with some preset stuff instead

[static glade]

Just collect from base then

[slender temple]

Can you let me know how your base's doing

[glad raptor]

26-30k a day

[median fable]

difference in? Deep exploration is just a run where you need to accomplish specific objectives and you start with some relics that will help you for that, also there can be extra rule like "more gold ingot rewarded in the run"
difficulty wise it's kinda easy, some objectives are easier than others though

[winter crystal]

Actually keep playing IS you’ll get plenty of lmd just don’t use ros until you’ve E2 her with mod

[karmic urchin]

is playpass worth for a9?

[glad raptor]

wqit this isnt good??

[wanton meadow]

26-30k? Xp right?

[glad raptor]

lmd....

[median fable]

acceptable income would be 50k lmd per day on average and around 30k exp

[wanton meadow]

Well i guess something has gone very wrong with your base setup

[glad raptor]

THE FUCK???

[slender temple]

Pram2 imo but do you have the materials for it

[glad raptor]

something something like this

[astral galleon]

65 pulls no 6 star how likely is the next one to be a 6 star

[wanton meadow]

Mine isn't particularly optimized but it's probably not too bad (although i am using proviso and shamteq)

[winter crystal]

Even with that set up you should be making more so it’s down to your base slaves

[glad raptor]

is this normal, isnt i suppose to have more

[slender temple]

Drones...you use your drones right?

[winter crystal]

Ok well you need to pair good base slaves up with each other and you also aren’t spending your drones

[severe crypt]

I think the answer is clear 🥹

[glad raptor]

for what

[wanton meadow]

Oh wait the drones are capped

[gloomy sundial]

You should have enough 30% tp workers to never use steward or melantha (if you raise base slaves)

[severe crypt]

THE ANSWER WAS CLEAR

[wanton meadow]

No even without drones 30k lmd a day is abnormal

[glad raptor]

OKAY I DONT KNOW WHATEVER THIS BASE IS, I NEVER THOUGH ITS GON BE THIS IMPORTANT ON LATE GAME 😔

[severe crypt]

I was focusing on drones only, I didn’t know about the 30k 🥹

[slender temple]

Either SA or Lappy alt

[spice portal]

Little question...

Can someone make a video for me with Leizi Alter S2, Mostima S3, Mlynar S3 and SilverAsh S3 all activating at once?

I really want to see the 4x Swing Swing 🙂

[raw wigeon]

what's steward doing here

[glad raptor]

....
am i cooked

[severe crypt]

Important? If you don’t have a good base, every op building session will be a struggle rather than something done in a few seconds

[glad raptor]

well that the reason

[frank talon]

What's the difference between factory productivity and operator productivity?

[spice portal]

YOOOOO FELLOW ADO FAN

[timber finch]

you can fix the base ops tho

[slender temple]

Both of their best skill are S3 anyway so you'll eventually have to do both, yeah

[warm tide]

Is there anti freeze operator

[glad raptor]

[severe crypt]

Let’s get you started at the basics:
/base and /baseskills in #bot-spam, read through and change accordingly

[glad raptor]

okay so anyone down to helpin me how to increase my base

[spice portal]

USEE USEE USEEWA

[winter crystal]

That’s going in the meme folder tyvm

[glad raptor]

HEY I NEED HELP

[slender temple]

Let's start by not forgetting to use drones

[spice portal]

How did u like Ado's Songs in One Piece?
TOT MUSICA

[frank talon]

[split bronze]

do 252

[glad raptor]

how to use drone....

[slender temple]

Speed up orders/factory

[glad raptor]

i deserved to get shot in the head isnt it

[timber finch]

check acquiring order area => use drones

[deep sandal]

did I unlock game journalist mode or something?

[severe crypt]

kinda there’s ops that either have status resistance and/or give status resistance, however this only halves duration, not fully nullify

[winter crystal]

Everything that rbp said follow it to a T, go to #bot-spam and #r-i-i-c for everything and anything base related

[wanton meadow]

It's right there in your face ngl

[split bronze]

lumen?

[sterile ledge]

salt?

[warm tide]

Ok which one have decent cold resistant

[timber finch]

tbh sash2 can be an anti freeze operator for kjerag

[split bronze]

and sash2 for kjrag

[severe crypt]

Idr if s3 cancels freeze

[slender temple]

Yea you can, start with Wis should be more than enuff

[warm tide]

Silverash alt?

[timber finch]

yeah
also give regen and def ontop

[severe crypt]

Oh right sash2 does have anti-freeze, tho that’s diff from status resistance

[round charm]

Should I build mantra rn since I had pram2 logos and nymph

[warm tide]

SA2....

[glad raptor]

do i need to like, downgrade the facility?

[timber finch]

you still do get cold tho

[winter crystal]

Yeah

[slender temple]

Keep pulling cuz why not, the next good banner is 3 months away anyway

[split bronze]

yes theres a pin on #r-i-i-c

[gloomy sundial]

252 isn't a huge difference if you already have max right side facilities

[split bronze]

it is in the long run imo

[severe crypt]

Overall tho? You shouldn’t really worry about lessening or being freeze immune, you can easily complete stages just by tanking through them

[winter crystal]

#r-i-i-c message

[gloomy sundial]

Fair, base slaves should be first prio though

[wanton meadow]

Yep you downgrade all the dorms to level 1, the factories to level 2 except for 1, swap 1 power plant for a level 2 factory. And you're done

[cyan venture]

is it more worth using the 6 star mastery card for monster s2 or wisadel s3 matwise?

[glad raptor]

after that, what should i do

[winter crystal]

Wis is higher prio skill wise but for mats I would just check what you have and whichever you’re lowest on use the ticket on that skill if you’re worried about your mats

[gloomy sundial]

Check here for sanity values https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1knwIQHQXDfmAIEShW3QuybzBh9OerfHsYJgCVVYXqtw/edit?gid=1746695797#gid=1746695797

[wanton meadow]

Then you're done with the factory itself, just set up your worker schedule

If there's anything to add, once you get access to e2 proviso, you downgrade 1 trading post to level 2 and upgrade 1 factory to level 3 again

[glad raptor]

like this right

[wanton meadow]

Yes exactly

[gloomy sundial]

They are basically identical sanity-wise btw, use it on Wis since dps is higher prio than buffing

[glad raptor]

how to set up worker schedule... i somehow forgot

[ancient lintel]

presets

[winter crystal]

It’ll all be in the #r-i-i-c channel pins

[wanton meadow]

Honestly just copy the beginner one from #r-i-i-c

[south fog]

Guys i have around 380k lmd is enough for e2 lvl 60?because i dont have any xp left and i need to put the base to produce xp

[glad raptor]

okay

[timber finch]

no

you need 200k by itself to e2 someone, no exp

iirc its like 760k

[slender temple]

700k+ for a 6*

[median fable]

this doesn't work well, are you doing a 252 setup?

[south fog]

No like if is e2 how much to put lvl 60 and sorry because i made the wrong question

[pearl forge]

if i have s3 sa2 and ines s3, then the 0 cost dagger would be swapped with the highest dp cost right?
Is Ines's real cost after dagger placement still at that high swapped dp cost?

[winter crystal]

You can literally check for yourself in game

[severe crypt]

En wants spoon

[glad raptor]

u think, how many lmd i could get now

[wanton meadow]

Omg it's all red

[median fable]

a single ss showed us your problem
fix your base

[ancient lintel]

can u spoon me

[south fog]

I forget to check base regularly

[severe crypt]

30% APR Jeep renegade

[winter crystal]

You’ll at least go up by 15k a day if you follow the guides

[glad raptor]

HOLY SHIT
ILL BE RICH

[wanton meadow]

Like around 50k a day if you use the beginner set up op by op and you rotate your base workers properly

[severe crypt]

*middle class

[median fable]

252 with 2 factory for gold, 2 for exp and 1 flexible depending on what you need
check regularly and you'll produce more exp/lmd to raise operators faster

[timber finch]

you already make more then that a day tho

[glad raptor]

shut up

[median fable]

Ik it can be a chore but with the inital investment in time to make decent setup you only need to click a couple of buttons everytime you login and the job is done
there is basically no excuse to neglect base nowdays

[wanton meadow]

Yep if you set up your base rotations properly you just need to login when it's rotation time, click the rotate button on each facility that needs rotating, and you're done for the next 12 hours

[south fog]

Thank you

[glad raptor]

ill be gone from this channel for quite sometimes, probably gonna do something something than if i Alr made rosmo e2 im. gonna back here to ask more advice

[winter crystal]

For now like I said earlier you can keep grinding IS for the lmd you’re missing while you’re improving your base

[glad raptor]

time for do is (i somehow love it)

[winter crystal]

Got any questions always ask

[junior hull]

Do people even still use Civilight these days? Like, consistently??

[median fable]

if you need for rotations check #r-i-i-c pins, 4th link for base rotation, go to newbie section and copy the newbie preset
even only using 30/25% is a good starting point
remember to login twice a day (you should do it anyway) and the job is done

[winter crystal]

Token waifu in squad sure

[median fable]

idk, ask yostar to release number on operator usage
it's not like she was used much even on release

[glad raptor]

anyway what the best to choose here, i somehow always choose the special squad (sorry for the is6 ss, i forgot to ss is5 and im gonna fo is5 first)

[timber finch]

tho a question i still wonder, what if you fail your rotation timer, how do you "reset" ?

[median fable]

leader or support squad early on I guess
after that you can shift to class squads for example

[median fable]

take the loss and move on, unless you invent time travel

[glad raptor]

what about this all here

[wanton meadow]

If you don't wanna think thru complicated recoveries just let the ops rest and just rotate like nothing ever happened on the next shift

[queen monolith]

Good team?

[marble viper]

pepe s2 or s3 guys

[median fable]

blueprint squad if you want to speedrun
otherwise class squad depending on your strat
ingot and soul escort are good but especialy the latter require time to learn how to play

[slender temple]

What do you need 3 vanguards for

[queen monolith]

What should i use and change for

[gloomy sundial]

Drop myrtle, what else you got for the slot

[median fable]

remove myrtle at least
Ines and Sash2 in squad is redundant, pick you you like more and add other ops that can help
finish building your ops before doing other e2 imo

[winter crystal]

Gathering squad if you don’t know what you’re doing bc you’ll have fodder

Tactical ranged squad if you have Wis and know what you’re doing somewhat (but any of the class squads are good)

Blueprint squad is always great

Spearhead squad if you want a little extra boost with lamp but not needed.

Ingot squad if you want to spam donations to cannot and for high dif runs

The rest are fun to play around with
#is-station can give a more thorough explanation of each squads niche

[cyan venture]

is bubble a good base slave and if she is whos she good with on a lvl 3 factory?

[wanton meadow]

So uhh do i use mastery ticket on mlynar, logos, or lapp2?

[wanton meadow]

Bubble is basically a locked pair with e2 vulcan, plus either ceobe or bena, otherwise not worth

[queen monolith]

Ok

[median fable]

no

[wanton meadow]

Without e2 vulcan, every other combination you do with bubble is worse than just using a 3x 30% worker team

[cyan venture]

i see thanks

[slender temple]

Could put skalter in ig, or any healer if you feel like haruka can not cover enough area (also W Reze enjoyer bro )

[gloomy sundial]

Can you make a krooster account and send the link?

[south fog]

Ok i gonna take a look at that thank you

[gloomy sundial]

Otherwise yeah, second healer would be comfy although haruka should be enough for most content

[queen monolith]

Bet, yeah i rlly like her

[median fable]

even with vulcan, it's a shit combo

[wanton meadow]

It's shit cos vulcan is a shit raise, not cos the combo is not worth using

[queen monolith]

wait

[wanton meadow]

Bubble vulcan bena is 93% which is worth using if you're cooked on fac workers, but the problem is raising vulcan sucks cos she's balls useless

[quaint valve]

Hey2, where we can see the most efficient farming stage (non event)? Roadless camelot?

[median fable]

even without considering ROI it's till a mid factory combo

[tropic schooner]

Hey guys, new player here. I tried rerolling for silverash but he keeps on dodging me and got wisadel instead? Should I settle on her or do i aim for more 6 stars when rerolling?

[pine plover]

shure, wisadelis good start for an account tbh

[urban sleet]

#bot-spam message

[wanton meadow]

Oh ROI shouldn't be a factor, raising anything to e2 other than proviso means ROI is out the window anyway

[distant sparrow]

cleaning factory rooms gives me 2 drones per room, but I need 60 drones to upgrade my factory. how do I get more?

[urban sleet]

[tropic schooner]

Cool! thanks

[pine plover]

i missed by one message reply

[light latch]

Most of my factory workers have paid themselves off at this point i think

[urban sleet]

Yet the slavery wont end 🥹

[pine plover]

you willl need to progress the story to unlock next floor

[median fable]

Bubble, Vulcan and Bena is at most a 93% combo
atp it's marginally better than three 30% worker and way worse than other combos (like Bryo or Vermeil/Scene)
you're going into a loss of opportunity costs of placing such an unremarkable combo in a lv3 fac that can be used by better ops

[split bronze]

even tequila shamare?

[light latch]

them too yes

[pine plover]

even clearing the hallway and elevator gives drones max cap

[light latch]

Even proviso takes like 2/3 of a year to pay herself off as a single e2 5* operator, much less 3 of them with weaker effect

[queen monolith]

https://www.krooster.com/u/reze

[wanton meadow]

Yep it's only marginally better but i think it's important to note that even 2 months in I was still using 75% teams cos there just aren't enough good 3/4 star workers

[brittle kestrel]

Guys anyway I can see my past pulls for my account? I remember there's a website that helps to track it and count how many pity it took

[gloomy sundial]

Wis is a great start, theoretically you could keep going for pram2 plus another good 6* but it's up to you and how much you're willing to reroll

[severe crypt]

Go to the yostar website and sign in, only up to 90 days previous pulls can be viewed

[median fable]

they are the breakpoint of what is acceptable, and Shamare is used in niche context so making it worth to e2 even if only for gameplay
it takes 2 years to pay back which isn't so much if you will play the game for that much

[cyan venture]

which mizuki skill is the best for IS?

[lyric jewel]

would it be fine to only pull on the limited and collab banners?

[median fable]

doesn't make sense unless fomo

you pull good banners, would you have skipped Tragodia only because standard?

[tropic schooner]

Yea, I think i will go for wis she seems unga bunga busted

[split bronze]

you can cert them or buy 30$ always right?

[median fable]

top 4 ops but she certainly lost the appeal imo

[willow zodiac]

What was the amount of HH tickets from yellow cert shop per month?

[gloomy sundial]

Okay yeah I'd say swap in skadi alt for myrtle since you have her raised already

[wanton meadow]

Not for a while no

[median fable]

you can cert them 2 years later after release so good luck waiting that much
also 30$ aren't exactly a little amount and there are many f2p in the chat

[urban sleet]

• Certing takes 2 years
• You are limited to one selector per anni
• And tf you mean you will spend resources on a bad limited banner but pay extra for a good standard inatead of redirecring your resources there

[median fable]

in the end, do what you want but be aware that metawise it doesn't make sense

[wraith shoal]

do I take the top option? Are the relics good?

[median fable]

limited banners also have the problem of rate up being harder to get for example, so if you want to be sure to get the operator you want you need save more compared to an event banner

[lyric jewel]

yea bc fomo. i started pretty late and i wanna collect all the limited operators so im planning to do the 200 spark for all 4 limited banners a year

[gentle gust]

with pap released do we get a dedicated ursus segment or is it gonna be shoved in tales of terra again?

[median fable]

I'll just tell you that it's a shit idea since the 200 spark ops are mostly shit except a couple
that said, do what you want

[spice portal]

Is Kaltist now in recruitment?

[ancient lintel]

top option is for ending 5
i.e debuff relics

[wraith shoal]

so I stay away from them, thanks mate

[urban sleet]

And I hope you do not blame us for losing on a normal stage before f5 endjng

[pine plover]

mandarory curse relics

[ancient lintel]

all units +2DP cost, enemies take -20% phys + arts dmg
leads exploration to another different ending

[ancient lintel]

nah I'd take them tbh
unless ur not prepared then ye skip

[gentle gust]

why is it always the prerequisite stages being harder than the boss stage itself

[sinful tapir]

which mod for swire alter (her main skill is s2)? and to which lv should i upgrade her mod

[median fable]

the one that make her consume less dp, lv1

[sinful tapir]

alright

[wraith shoal]

this is my second serious IS5 run, still dont know most stuff about it. Got king set too so if ed5 isn't crazy bad then I guess I can take them

[ancient lintel]

ok it seems ur clueless then, dont do ed5 lol

[median fable]

fafo, use wiki and/or discover things at your pace

[coarse notch]

i would not take ed5 if unless you're planning on exploding to the boss, which is perfectly fine but just fyi

[wraith shoal]

I dont know the strats since I just started IS5, only did the fremont dude once and he almost rocked my shit

[balmy moat]

Any of these guys worth getting? (No i havent bought it yet)

[wraith shoal]

dont buy kernel selector

[urban sleet]

There are only niche picks here

[balmy moat]

Okay got it

[ancient belfry]

any tips? this is completely rng right

[sacred flume]

don't know if this answers your question, but it is showing its own Ursus timeline in cn

[urban sleet]

Chain combos

[ancient belfry]

how does one trigger it

[gentle gust]

oh yay thanks yes this is it

[split bronze]

do combos and plan to several missions at the same time

[split bronze]

gather in a row like 1,2,3 they need to be consecutive numbers

[severe crypt]

En players when they have to count:

[urban sleet]

I will explain with an example

Lets say you got 12335

You advance wjth 1
Collect with 2
You'll see a combo higblight on 3
Collect with 3
You'd need 4 for the next combp on collecting
But since theres no 4, 5 would not wor due to the break
And repeats like the other 3 dont coumt for combos either

[regal patrol]

orundum in purple cert shop doesnt refresh right?

[severe crypt]

It slowly gets added every rerun, like +20 count or smth

[regal patrol]

alright, thats nice

[hybrid pier]

Chat i have only done mostly normal modes of all the events and like only 5 full annihilation is reaching 300 is still possible

[ancient belfry]

So 5 then would be designated as Advance instead? ahh thank you, ive finally got it, so it needs to be consecutive

[urban sleet]

Why do you want to hit 300

[wraith shoal]

100 pulls just to spark wis

[urban sleet]

If you pick 5 right after, it would yes, with 3 having collect option and vice gersa

[severe crypt]

And bro is poor 🥀

[frozen dawn]

sparking? i suggest dont

[cyan venture]

is it fine it only have SAalter as my solo vanguard? i only got elysium and myrtle as my other options

[opaque remnant]

If you’re trying to spark, don’t

[sacred flume]

he is more than enough

[gloomy sundial]

The strat is to check which mat you need the most across all 3 active missions and chain combos on the node for it. Even better if it's a 2x node

[hybrid pier]

idk whats spark is actually 😔

[split bronze]

just pull till u get the rate ups

[frigid stream]

bro is going for 300 without a spark target

[ancient belfry]

spark = guarantee

[opaque remnant]

Did you not get either sa2 or pramalt yet?

[nimble kite]

The buying old Limited from shop directly without gacha thing.

[glass mural]

It refers to pull x amount of times, guaranteed high rarity unit to buy esque systems.

[hybrid pier]

i got like 3 pramalt and no silvalter

[glass mural]

It's a term borrowed from the GBF community originally, and has made its way over to others like AKcord.

[opaque remnant]

Ouch, just keep pulling then

[fallow hinge]

wow that sucks so bad

[ancient belfry]

so 54 pulls without 6 star is possible, my 2nd account is sht.

the chances to get 6 stars increases by 2 percent right

[spice portal]

OMG I GOT HER

[hybrid pier]

never give up never back down i guess...

[frozen dawn]

damn 200 pulls for that is crxzy

[frigid stream]

#salt-mines

[wraith shoal]

#salt-mines

[ancient belfry]

#salt-mines

[spice portal]

Sorry guys new player

[left tulip]

do i raise perfumer or purestream, for both base and usage

[ancient belfry]

did you pull on kernel?

[severe crypt]

She’s new to recruitment

[wraith shoal]

she's also in the kernel

[ancient belfry]

I did get her on recruitment, im asking if she got it on kernel instead

[gloomy sundial]

How old is your account? E1s are cheap so raise both for base (Purestream first for 40% gold worker). Perfumer for gen content if you don't have Ptilo, Purestream for IS6 if you play it

[runic willow]

Would Kal'tsit focus heal monster the operator too?

[severe crypt]

Where in my statement did I deny that

[vale dock]

doesn't kernel pulls always give blue certs?

[prime kayak]

Are dual chips gated behind story progression? I cant seem to craft it despite having a level 3 workshop

[inland osprey]

thats like 58k orundum , yeah you aint reaching that amount without burning your op

[robust thistle]

You mean factory

[prime kayak]

yes*

[robust thistle]

Are you sure its not there

[balmy moat]

How do i get my units to level 60 without spending all my freaking sanity on exp levels

[robust thistle]

Build a proper base

[severe crypt]

Base

[fallow hinge]

time and base

[robust thistle]

Youre not supposed to use sanity for exp and lmd

[balmy moat]

Oh yeah i forgot i xan just make exp tickets

[eager tapir]

Who should I pick for this selector

[inland osprey]

base and event reward , and ra

[urban sleet]

Nobody spends sanity on lmd/exp stages, you build a proper base

Also during event you should be farming event stages since better t3 mat drop rates and event shop

[robust thistle]

Dont buy either

[severe crypt]

You’re supposed to make exp, a good base makes around 30k exp a day

[eager tapir]

why?

[snow siren]

How good is sakiko outside of teams that include her band members?

[robust thistle]

None of them arr worth the money

[severe crypt]

Still good? She works completely fine solo

[balmy moat]

Will i ever be able to get the best exp tickets in base or is it just t3 tickets

[prime kayak]

Nope, because Im stupid. Thanks I see where I was wrong lmao

[robust thistle]

Her use case has always been teams that dont use her band mates

[opaque remnant]

Her band members are simply extensions of her capabilities, she’s already strong

[severe crypt]

It’ll only be max the purple tier tickets, but that’s what gives 30k exp a day

[fallow hinge]

I believe if you insist on bringing a band member, it's always Mutsumi Wakaba for Fever stacking

[inland osprey]

people says technically shes the best lord now right? (well thorns is the best lord and i wont change my mind)

[severe crypt]

Technically yeah, but that’s cuz the competition for lords is either ooold or niche

[snow siren]

How about qiubai?

[severe crypt]

Niche

[balmy moat]

Ah so thats… a week and 2 days for a level 60

[cyan venture]

is there a way to see the mon3tr module coming in the future, like read what it does

[severe crypt]

Well that’s just base itself, and you also passively gain exp from daily/weekly missions and various events

[urban sleet]

Much bettee than what exp stages give regardless

[fervent mica]

What skills are worth building on Ascalon?
and
Do you think it's worth building Ulpianus S3 for the Silverash Alter tech?

[severe crypt]

Yeah the lmd and exp stages are aaaaasssss

[gloomy sundial]

Check the wiki

[hoary ruin]

S3 is Ulpi's main skill, so you'd master that one anyway. The "tech" with SA2 is a meme anyway, very impractical.

But yes, master S3 on Ulpi.

[severe crypt]

Asca uses s2 only

[inland osprey]

well i prefer s2 , since im lazy af , just put him there and let him whack enemies, also he can tank most bosses in the game

[fervent mica]

So Both S2 and S3 are very viable for Ulpi?

[grim tree]

With SAlters passive, does a mod3 OG SA have the same cycle as Mlynar?

-40% redeploy time basically cuts his redeployment time to 42 secs right?

[fervent mica]

Which mod?

[inland osprey]

ulpi be saving my ass from steam knight , that boss hit like a truck

[severe crypt]

Modx1

[fervent mica]

Impractical but works no?

[hoary ruin]

S3 is generally enough, but S2 has it's uses too. The main issue with S2 is that it takes forever to activate, and you could have thrown multiple S3s by then.

[left tulip]

https://www.krooster.com/u/apt-black-rat-72x3

could anyone tell me out of these who are the best 4 star e1s who are both strong units and valuable in base? ive been looking at the riic doc but except purestream i cant find particularly convincing upgrades

[inland osprey]

also if you dont hv galdia invested prob dont bother investing on hsi s2

[fervent mica]

I have gladiia fully built

[shy moat]

just started and after 90 pulls ive gotten only 2 silverash dupes and no good 6* (a single one anyways) should i restart? that was a lot of pulls unless later you'll get a lot more

[robust thistle]

You forgot inital SP

[gloomy sundial]

The timing is very tight, you need to activate his s3 before the SA2 slashes appear to get the attack buff from his skill

[severe crypt]

Even sans gladiia s2 can work solo, just use a medic like a normal person

[urban sleet]

2 in 1 is just purestream yeah

[inland osprey]

well just build whatver suit your playstyle

[fervent mica]

There's a .1s window

[gloomy sundial]

It's definitely viable. Just not a "play the stage in 2x" type strategy

[left tulip]

i see, is it particularly necessary to raise some E1 regardless or can i wait for some better base units (vermeil shamare idk) to then raise based on that

[fervent mica]

Should be fine then

[urban sleet]

Shamare isnt a 4 star anymore according to your criteria

[fervent mica]

Anyways how do I farm T5 materials?

[robust thistle]

You dont

[grim tree]

Oh right, then I guess he is behind by 11 secs

[ancient lintel]

U craft them

[inland osprey]

ive tried it before , 2x is just impossible

[urban sleet]

IS monthlies and reqards
RA rewards
Event shop

[fervent mica]

Materials for T5 I meant

[hoary ruin]

The main issue with it is we have much easier ways to nuke bosses. But hey if you wanna use it, go nuts. As I said you'd want to level S3 anyway and both units are great anyway.

[left tulip]

true true, i just meant units that would make raising specific 4 stars worth raising over others

[robust thistle]

Farm T3 mats slowly

[ancient lintel]

U farm t3

[fervent mica]

Do you have a list for the most effective levels for those?

[urban sleet]

They are mostly for combat not base

[ancient lintel]

Right now it's OS-7 and 8

[left tulip]

then do i need to raise higher than 4 star for base?

[olive mulch]

saw this in other channel, what software is this?

[wraith shoal]

in IS5, do I have to use my tinman for the medal or can I just borrow one?

[ancient lintel]

I think borrow works ye

[random shard]

Typically not. Aside from prov/sham/tequila/(bibeak or substitute) the return on investment for 5/6 stars are in the years

[urban sleet]

E2s for base outside of shamare and provisio have bad ROI, only vets can afford to do it since they alresdy have established accounts

[random shard]

Until you have all of your combat units functionally complete and you're just kinda spending resources you don't raise anyone else for base

[left tulip]

so do i raise any base slaves

[urban sleet]

Pnly those in /baseskill
Amd provi/sham/teq if you get them

[gaunt vapor]

1. Since some of the facilities cannot be down great anymore. 2. Is 252 better than 243 still ? 3. wanna just do 5-7 day of ordumgma farm every month. Which is better ?

[grim tree]

4* and below works. Just pick those who are useful at E1

[left tulip]

hmm then i guess im relatively static for now

[urban sleet]

252 is still better
And orundum farming guide is in #r-i-i-c pins

Obligatory 'orundum farming is bad' before you set off to that channel

[gloomy sundial]

/material in #bot-spam

[severe crypt]

Obligatory “96k lmd and 120 rocks per pull” also

[random shard]

Raising the fancy combos that use non-combat units is effectively a luxury

[hoary ruin]

I hope you've done the math on how much it costs to make pulls out of rocks.

[random shard]

It something you do when you're bored with excess resources

[severe crypt]

The math has already been done

[left tulip]

i just saw so much "raise your base slave around" i thought i wouldve had more options yk

[severe crypt]

After the basic base slaves, the rest are just a luxury due to ROI

[spice portal]

Should i get Warfarin to E2 Skill 2 M3?

[urban sleet]

I see 2-3 unraised base slaves I throw that phrase

[random shard]

The max level/e1 2/3/4* ops are plenty for the start. The sham/tequila/prov set really are the best bang for their buck

[urban sleet]

You have far higher priprities tban warf s2m3
Unekss its with the ticjet

[spice portal]

It is

[left tulip]

hopefully i roll shamare soon then so tequila can be put to good use

[urban sleet]

Pins for ticket candidates

[urban sleet]

Sham in kernel unfortunately

[gaunt vapor]

I mean only do it 5 days every month should be fine. Since I just farm 1-7 when outside of big events

[spice portal]

In which channel?

[wraith shoal]

well this one

[random shard]

Well good luck with that idea since she's only on kernal. Your best bet is a selector or gold cert buy

[spice portal]

There is none for the Senior op M3 Ticket

[severe crypt]

How many pulls do you get from only 5 days

[grim tree]

Aside from SAlter and Bagpipe, are there any other ops that give out initial SP?

[spice portal]

Thanks!!!

[gaunt vapor]

I have no place to really use some of the resource I barely build 1 OP every 2-3 months

[grave fulcrum]

is hoshialter module worth it?

[severe crypt]

Mod 2+

[gaunt vapor]

I think like 3000 so 5 pulls ? That’s extra 60 pulls over a year so 1 extra 6 stars a year on casual rock farm on avg luck

[severe crypt]

3000 actual orundum or shards

[wraith shoal]

shards probably. Orundum farm aint that efficient

[severe crypt]

Cuz 5 pulls in 5 days seems a little fishy unless massive stash

Cuz it’s 10 pulls a month on avg
Bullshit 5 pulls in 5 days

Wait how many shards is 1 orundum

[limpid yarrow]

its like 2 pulls in 5 days

[gloomy sundial]

I'm pretty sure this graphic assumes the ops are already e2. Roadless camelot in pins has rec's for the 5 star e2 voucher

[severe crypt]

Orundum farming just for 24 pulls a year fuck naw

[rain forge]

Why are Ely wanq teq and chilchuck grey

[fierce needle]

males

[severe crypt]

Chilchuck and Ely are welfares????

[rain forge]

elysium and chilchuck aren’t welfares

[fierce needle]

im sorry

[wraith shoal]

idk graphic aint mine, took it from killari

[nimble salmon]

if the enemy in IS6 is 1 weight and i have "Gravity Defying Machine" relic that -2 weight does my enemy becomes weightless?

[snow siren]

Has CN gotten another crossover that global hasn't yet?

[severe crypt]

It’s by FAE, the resident yuri enthusiast

[rain forge]

not yet but monhun2 collab soon

[indigo spoke]

who should i use m3 ticket for
https://www.krooster.com/u/alert-mauve-surtr-78xp

[nimble salmon]

guys pls help me

[fallow hinge]

it's just an announcement right? no ops or date yet?

[rain forge]

Actually have we gotten news for monhun2 yet or nah

[echo venture]

probably will be announced in the next stream

[nimble salmon]

anyone pls

[indigo spoke]

weight just become 0 iirc

[fallow hinge]

oh so possibly right after People, A People?

[indigo spoke]

i dont remember whats weightless

[nimble salmon]

so weightless is only able through skills ?

[rain forge]

We don’t know

For all we know it could happen in 2092

[indigo spoke]

if you can wait when i search back

[gloomy sundial]

Saki s3 or lapp alt s3, SA2 s3 if you don't plan to use them and want a good m6

[indigo spoke]

thanks i dont plan to use sakiko so ill use on lapp2

[shadow bay]

should have check planner what skills seems harder to farm for their m3

[indigo spoke]

i have the planner but i know nothing about mats

[shadow bay]

just pick the skill u have 0 to none?? consider it like a skip ticket

[boreal steeple]

"I dont plan on sakiko" what

[shadow bay]

like
"oh no.... why hoederer need gaziilion ceu...

good thing i have m3 voucher to cut need of ceu..."
something like that

[indigo spoke]

like some mats i lack of? alr i though some mats that unfarmable

[calm raptor]

What’s ascalon’s main selling point?

[rain forge]

cc and slow

[indigo spoke]

aoe dmg

[median fable]

def not the main selling point

[indigo spoke]

well i usually borrow her when i lack dmg

[robust thistle]

Its the damage and the slow

[median fable]

I hope it's a joke

[rain forge]

if you lack damage you borrow an exu2 or a wis not an assclown

[shadow bay]

some mats u lack
and u seem it would take rly some time to farm.... atleast thats how i approach it

well u can also just... use it to whoever need m3... skip ticketas i say yeh

[median fable]

she has good dmg but if you want good dmg it's not the first choice you pick

[shadow bay]

also what supposed to mean of mats that unfarmable???

[calm raptor]

Might be a stupid question but is it better to have someone like her for utility or is it better to just have more damage and stuff

[median fable]

you can't farm amiya's birthday cake for example

[robust thistle]

Why not both

[indigo spoke]

like drop rate is terrible and not worth the sanity unless there is an event stage, just said what i thought dont blame me

[shadow bay]

who would farm amiya cake haiyaaa

[rain forge]

The people of #arknights

[ancient lintel]

Cake or cake

[indigo spoke]

weightless just a debuff mean reduce weight by 1 and do nothing more, but levitate can benefit from weightless if you have any op applies this debuff. Fix me if im wrong

[past ferry]

Does Lee's Stun immunity works with U-oficial stun?

[robust thistle]

Yeh

[timber finch]

if i were to do a staggerless base, could i still use rotate button and have ~50k lmd a day?
i really fear my sleep schedule and brainfarts to do a 12h thing

[tardy vortex]

Hi, in clue delivery menu right, are the dark grey boxes the clues that my friends do not have?

thanks!

[robust thistle]

what does that mean

[timber finch]

not do the delayed sleep of operators
like 3 operators that trade seats for the 2 power plant etc

[rain forge]

Just press the “distribute duplicate clues” button and it’ll do it automatically

[robust thistle]

I dont think "staggerless base" means what you think it is

youre asking if you can just rotate whenever you want and still get optimal production

[timber finch]

basically, yeah

[robust thistle]

no you cant

[indigo spoke]

which skill of ethan to m3

[tardy vortex]

was just curious hahah, means i have been sending people duplicates the whole time XD, i thought the grey ones are the clues people do not have

[robust thistle]

you can minimize your loss, but optimal production needs stable rotation

[timber finch]

how big would that minised loss be?
like if it's still 50k instead of 60k a day etc

[past ferry]

#r-i-i-c dwellers would know better

[robust thistle]

depends on your base workers, ask #r-i-i-c

youre sacrificing productivity for capacity

[indigo spoke]

you forget to update this

[timber finch]

yeah ima need to dtake a good hour on this base at some point

better do it once and never again tho

[robust thistle]

it takes like less than 30s to rotate a base

[timber finch]

yeah but i mean doing the full prep, i don't think rotating is long, just that i don't trust my dumb ass to do it lol

as often, the problem rely between the screen and chair

[eager totem]

draft trag or e2 radian first

[timber finch]

nvm i understand now

[robust thistle]

raidian first

[formal quartz]

Is Ines good? I got her from the limited banner instead of the limiteds

[sterile ledge]

one of the best vg in game

[opaque flame]

is kroos alter good?

[jaunty anvil]

Returning player is this acc still good?

[robust thistle]

sure why not

you can roll up with a year 0 account and its would still be 'good'

[opaque flame]

she's might the best agent vanguard by now. evey time she retreat from the battlefield, she put shadow Sentry that has the same as her talent (slow & reveal invisible enemies)

[severe crypt]

It’s the skill that matters, cuz many players still eat shit even with Wis

[severe crypt]

Btw surfer uses s1 and Lapp uses s2

[formal quartz]

Nice starting to regain hope after not getting any 6star ops after so many pulls

[rocky onyx]

is spending 300 permit worth for wisadel? (im not struggling in stages, just want her for convenience)

[robust thistle]

wang is coming so

[rocky onyx]

aight

[opaque flame]

she is really that good, first attacking enemies bind for 5 second, s2 become invisible & hit like shit good too

[mild gust]

I just got pramanix the prerita is she any good

Thanks

[opaque flame]

she can freeze the entire battlefield, even make blue box has 3 block & 3500 hp

[mild gust]

And the new silver ash is better correct? Despite her doing all that

[regal phoenix]

what does wang do

[opaque flame]

do wang bomb hit like tragodia nuke cat?

[coarse notch]

kills everything dead

[regal phoenix]

how

[coarse notch]

much much harder

[opaque flame]

new silver ash is the new Leader of the battlefield. s2 make ally cost 0

[robust thistle]

just watch a youtube video or something

[mild gust]

Whattttt

[coarse notch]

each mine is basically getting hit by a wisadel s3 shot

[wintry steppe]

It take time to get ally cost 0,not just instantly

[robust thistle]

you know what I hate, people using hyperboles to overhype an operator when they dont actually do the stuff they said

[mild gust]

Should I save for dead or spin for limited silverash

[severe crypt]

That’s cuz they parrot

[robust thistle]

no SAlter doesnt make your ops cost 0 with S2

[coarse notch]

not necessarily, very different operators
pram is the stronger general carry, sash2 isnt carrying shit

[opaque flame]

after all allies move to the left by using s2 many times, then the closest ally that are on the left of the eye of the storm will have -11dp reduction, then go to 0

[robust thistle]

you say that and then in realty your ops literally have to wait in a queue to get the DP reduction

[regal phoenix]

oh, the reduction stacks infinitely or what

[robust thistle]

no, left side operators cant get more dp reduction, youre thinking of S1

[severe crypt]

Why are we even shilling the less used skill

[coarse notch]

left sided can

[mild gust]

So I should save for wang yes yes

[severe crypt]

WHO’s DEAD

[coarse notch]

s2 can lower dp to 0 but it takes like 10 years

[mild gust]

Wang* sorry

[opaque flame]

that's how it played

then at times u can drop them for free

[robust thistle]

me waiting until all right side ops to get discounted before left side gets reduced

[wintry steppe]

You don't have to maximize the reduction to 0 DP, it's not like you don't gain DP to place 2-8 DP cost operator

[severe crypt]

Plus you use s3 for most of the time

[coarse notch]

after this banner yes

[nimble kite]

Depends, for example Sanctuary effect doesn't stack and apply only highest, but things like Gladiia DR talent will sums up.

[mild gust]

Alright, thanks

[robust thistle]

then say what it actually does instead

[regal phoenix]

oh i mean the dp reduction of sa2

[opaque flame]

and that units is either guard - sniper caster

[nimble kite]

Oh, DP

[robust thistle]

"SAlter S2 makes your ops cost 0DP"

proceeds not to mention the stage would end before it happens

[mild gust]

Also is there an official up to date tierlist, the site i use stopped updating their tierlist (Arknights Tier List)

[robust thistle]

no one uses tierlist here

[mild gust]

Oh...

[wintry steppe]

You goes to F tier

[mild gust]

😔

[buoyant sigil]

Things very subjective and we don’t wanna fight

[severe crypt]

And even if a tierlist exists, it’s likely to a very specific use, like is5 gvg d18 ed245

[cursive maple]

mei's tierlist!

[buoyant sigil]

You’d never find something truly accurate if we used them anyway

[mild gust]

I guess

[coarse notch]

just ask here if you have an questions about an operator

[severe crypt]

I was taking the piss ain’t no way that exists 🥹

[limpid yarrow]

no yeah mei has literally posted exactly that

[cursive maple]

wtf i was too!!?? taking a piss i maan

[limpid yarrow]

much to the dismay of all redditors who found out thorns was not in fact a top pick🥀

[severe crypt]

Well good because anything to make thorns a fraud

[coarse notch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/s/bcYHScaWq2

[severe crypt]

Well I’ll be

[limpid yarrow]

growing up is realizing mei was right all along

[vestal pine]

should ines use s3 if paired w sash s2?

[wary vector]

wtf am i looking at? flamebringer not being useless?

[indigo spoke]

is there the clear lungmen downtown annihilation using pramanix yet?

[safe tundra]

would you call a former taekwondo master a fraud because hes too old to bend his knees

[coarse notch]

whoops wrong link
https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/s/JhmF7XHjN8

[wary vector]

are you talking specifically SOLO pramanix?

[cursive maple]

mei my goat

[gaunt vapor]

You get 500 ordum a day (max was 600). And you don’t convert your base into making ordum but you still farm 1-7 the other 25 days anytime possible

[coarse notch]

healing isnt so bad when you have 300 atkspd
hes still bad tho nobody drafts him

[severe crypt]

500 orundum or shards

[coarse notch]

you get 1800 orundum a week from orundum farming with monthly card so thats wrong

[wraith shoal]

what's so special about vanguard-guard runs in IS?

[hexed adder]

Its not really per day, thats not how you count it

[severe crypt]

Also what’s the shards to orundum conversion

[cursive maple]

niche squad

[twilit swallow]

Where this stage is

[rain forge]

Iirc 1:10?

[gaunt vapor]

With monthly card you should able to farm 300 ordum a day with 1 sanity to 1 ordum conversion rate. So 25 days to farm 5 pulls seem really promising. Even you half that still 13*300( with monthly card ofc) that’s 3900 ordum worth of rock a day. And you focus concevetting roc into actual ordum last 5-6 days with great base seem possible

[wraith shoal]

it says the name right there

[wintry steppe]

Doktah lobotomized

[severe crypt]

IS IT SHARDS OR ORUNDUM WHICH IS IT

[coarse notch]

with monthly card orundum farming gets you 10-14 pulls a month

[rain forge]

shards to orundum

[severe crypt]

NOT YOU MAN

[rain forge]

[coarse notch]

[safe tundra]

guys idt theyre doing orundumb base

[raw wigeon]

It's just a squad that somehow works really well in IS5 shit in IS6

[coarse notch]

its not bad in is6 wat

[severe crypt]

Diabolical profile banner

[safe tundra]

erm

[rain forge]

Good lord that’s agonising to look at

[twilit swallow]

Yeah because there is thousand of event in this section

[coarse notch]

mlynar sash2 duos every bosky relicless and guards are turbo meta

[candid badger]

heart of surging flame

[severe crypt]

Nope you need red circles and arrows

[wraith shoal]

it says heart of surging flame man

[rain forge]

#help ran out of red paint budget months ago

[buoyant sigil]

is5 highrolling and weird ass strats never cease to surprise me

[safe tundra]

budget went to RR clue QoL update

[wintry steppe]

thousand of event and the event count barely touches 100

[wary vector]

all i know is, is5 is king relic + aspd and bye

[radiant mantle]

Man I read the pins but the gains for sa alter's s2 seem too meager

[regal phoenix]

How to do combo thing in mini game? Consecutive number what does it mean

[severe crypt]

12345

[candid badger]

1 2 3 4 5
sequence

[cursive maple]

its good in is4 too

[radiant mantle]

I've got the mats but it still doesn't seem too worth it

[candid badger]

3 4 5 you get combo too