help

[tiny chasm]

do anyone recommend this? nope but I think you've probably been told I'd assume.

[left tulip]

150 pulls in 3 months then? That seems like a lot too

[winter crystal]

yes not recommended of course

[frozen echo]

On 300 pulls you get 1 copy on SA2 and can spend 300 in shop

[urban sleet]

Earning 150 pulls in 3 months is normal, includes as well tho

[frozen echo]

I mean it's around 2-4 6* depending on luck

[midnight hornet]

So is it impossible to get the dahuang sprout pack (the ui theme) now?

[left tulip]

How are you getting op if you’ve got everything cleared already

[urban sleet]

Events

[subtle dawn]

What do y'all recommend I do? I have 90 pulls rn but like if I grinded I can get a lot more cuz I'm still new to the game, and should I stop pulling on the banner once I get either sash2 or pram2 so I don't get dupes?

[tiny chasm]

new events

[lyric lagoon]

new events, duh

old events also give plenty of intel certs and gold certs to help asw

[urban sleet]

Sparking is never optimal even for wisadel if f2p since it's a lot of pulls invested to get ine good op whereas it could have been used to get multiple good ops, not to mention you are more likely to get dupes of rate-ups and dupes are meaningless in this game for the most part

Then theres gold cert shop asw

[left tulip]

Isn’t it pretty variable based on events then or is the OP quantity pretty consistent

[ancient current]

limited events aren’t the only existing events. we have quite a few other events inbetween granting . the new main story chapters here and there especially, with more than 40 in each

[frozen echo]

Just get lucky and lose to wisadle, she is 5x in lose pool

[tiny chasm]

no events have a pretty consistent number of of OPs

[subtle dawn]

Will there be any good ops in gold shop? And also does that mean I won't be able to get both sash2 and pram2 without the risk of dupes?

[lyric lagoon]

not to mention 3 pulls for each event shop (which adds up fast)

[ancient current]

variable. more consequent events with S stages typically have around 40. new chapters too. smaller events have around 25~30

[frozen echo]

Me getting ready for double spark as dolphin

[urban sleet]

just get the two of them then stop once you get both

As for gold cert shop ascalon/ray are close, ulpianus/logos in the line but not as close as the other two
There'a degen and zuo le too but lower priority

[lavish bough]

is it worth it to roll on standard banner if I have the guarunteed 5 star operator

[ancient current]

you also need to consider the and pulls you will get within the very event the banner is released on, when you are planning your pulls

[tiny chasm]

no

[lyric lagoon]

and if we’re counting the limited events themselves, they should give about 40-60 pulls during the period

[ancient current]

no. never go for guaranteed 5*. 90% of them are worthless

[urban sleet]

You shouldn't be rolling on banners for 5 stars amd no standarx is not worth for the 6 stars eithee 98% of the time

[left tulip]

Goddamn I want both asca and ray i gotta grind certs somehow

[ancient current]

spam recruitment

[urban sleet]

Simply off-rate them

[left tulip]

Hopefully the bunch of pulls that I’ll get in for sash2 will give me a good amount too

[urban sleet]

Also buy out 5 stars from red cert shop during these dead days, they give certs asw

[subtle dawn]

But won't I risk getting dupes tho?

[urban sleet]

Do the dupes matter as long as you get the rate-ups

[ancient current]

it is, why wouldn’t it be

[tiny chasm]

woah woah sash alter is coming in 11 days? or that pull calculator is bugging? I swear I haven't heard a wisper about sash release date.

[frozen echo]

Banner date prediction

[ancient current]

wait a minute

didnt see predictions

[tiny chasm]

💔 oh yeah figured

[urban sleet]

Jp livestream on 8th so ppl are predicting off that

[ancient current]

it is not fine to link at all

[tiny chasm]

I see it's probably relatively accurate then good to know

[ancient current]

the ui for this on mobile is dogshit so didnt see the full interface

[frozen echo]

It was moved by a week from 9th

[left tulip]

Wait the only way to get gold certs from recruitment either way is just from 5 stars ?

[urban sleet]

Max pot 4 stars too

[tiny chasm]

max potential 4 stars then exchange their tokens

[ancient current]

4* give 1 gold cert from conversion at max pot

[left tulip]

Oh icty

[frozen echo]

You get 1 gold cert avg per day

@subtle dawn have you done annihilation for gold certs?

[lyric lagoon]

if only we got excess permits instead of excess expedites

[urban sleet]

Simply hit b2b clue echange and highroll credit shop

[rose apex]

is it worth doing a pull on joint operation...? degenbrecher so pretty...

[tiny chasm]

no

[urban sleet]

Check pins, tldr is no

[frozen echo]

Do you have 0 other ones? Also no

[tiny chasm]

it's also 1/4 chance you get her so it's kinda rough

[urban sleet]

You can buy your waifu from cert shop shortly

[rose apex]

0 other wha

[ancient current]

of the 6* in the banner

[frozen echo]

There are 4 ops on that banner

[urban sleet]

They mean oher rate-ups

[frozen echo]

If you have any you never touch those unless you whale

Learned it hard way 😭

[hexed adder]

Knowing good limited banner soon, thats bad decision. Even if u miss all

[rose apex]

ouh yeah i have lemuen

when does the limited come out?

[urban sleet]

^keep 180 gold certs ready

[tiny chasm]

just wait for her to go on gold certs she is relatively soon

[frozen echo]

SOONTM

[tiny chasm]

no official release date but live stream is on the 8th or something

[rose apex]

oki :3

[urban sleet]

Either way its mere 25% odds, just cert her

And once again this is considering she's your waifu, she's decent but we have better options around her

[frozen echo]

It took me 4 years of loosing 5050 to siege and orientering banners to get bagpipe from selector

[urban sleet]

Bro got bagpioe after her death

[hexed adder]

At least free

[urban sleet]

True

[frozen echo]

Every time I got top op I was getting vanguard

My lion is washed

[ancient current]

you should move this convo to #arknights. this is no longer related to this channel

[urban sleet]

Zima alter drops on 7th right

[potent tartan]

Just kill the mooks before the cannon activates tbh
Have spectre kill them instead, and a random 3 blocj bozo to bait the cannon somewhere else

[lyric lagoon]

honestly more excited about the corrosion ritualist

[tiny chasm]

is it honestly chill to get mostima up? lowkey her slow is kinda silly

[potent tartan]

Blocking those mooks with somebody who doesnt have aoe will just inevetibly blow up the area

[young glacier]

I don't because waiting for -120 to stack up to be profitable means another POO like bullshit is around corner

[humble nova]

Is it worth m3’ing Tragodia’s s1?

[worldly estuary]

Only s2 afaik

[urban sleet]

She has a niche for sure

[brazen gulch]

Do multi-tile enemies by chance count as several for Mlynar's talent?

[urban sleet]

S3 also good, s2 general use skill

[prime dust]

Hello everyone is there any guide available ?

[nimble kite]

Pins.

[urban sleet]

All in pins, roadless camelot section

[prime dust]

Tyyy ;3

[worldly estuary]

Hmm, is it worth to M6 then

[humble nova]

Yeah

[tiny chasm]

mostima does want s3 right? like since all of her other skills suck (even s3 sucks I can't lie what is 110 second cycle??)

[urban sleet]

I personally would but personally I can do a lot of things
Whether you have the same freedom or not in terms of priority is upto your roster's condition

[humble nova]

You can insta cast s3 trag, very good for high end especially lacking ground tiles

[young glacier]

Likely not, at least i assume potato code of game tracks them as single entity if AoE moves still hit range things only once

[urban sleet]

Unless its some schizo coding where multi-tile enemies count as multiple enemies, should not be so

[tiny chasm]

mostima wants mod Y yes?

[ancient current]

yes, she uses s3m3 mod3 (the slow mod)

[frozen echo]

Rerolling on orienteering would be best rn, right?

[boreal steeple]

Its for afknights, so not really

[urban sleet]

Its JO and yes

[humble nova]

Btw what are the ratings for Bellone? Is he good? His kit seems fun

[median fable]

above average

[urban sleet]

Good but not meta

[median fable]

will probably end up in the "skip" category but far from bad

[frozen echo]

Who have better debuff uptime him or shamare?

[urban sleet]

Yeah if you get wang and chen3 in free/very low pulls and have a young roster can consider him (also considering you have a good pull stash and schedule after zima alter isnt taxing)

[undone portal]

similar to mantra in that hes nice to have but in a bad location to be pulling for him specifically

[boreal steeple]

His dps is fine, shredding really hard to applicate, so i see s3 more usage to hold multiple lanes

[humble nova]

Cool cool so hes pullable.. perfect 👌

[urban sleet]

If he loses the dodge gamble on s3 its bellover for him

[boreal steeple]

You rather pull wang and ch3n

[median fable]

ngl, I'd shill is s2

[undone portal]

which is why you use s2

[urban sleet]

Yeah s2 is the real skill

[humble nova]

Well im planning to spark shu but if it ever comes to it I can pull for Bellone. Its rare to find good male 6 stars in these types of gacha games

[tiny chasm]

Ambience Synesthesia skins are going to rerun when this years Ambience Synesthesia rolls around yes?

[urban sleet]

The 2 upcoming limited banners would like to have a word with you

[median fable]

if it's for maleknight I doubt you'll find many better males than him

[humble nova]

Tragodia is the only meta male 🥀

[median fable]

wang exists

[boreal steeple]

Use hermitzplanner on skin planning tbh

[undone portal]

silveralt/wang forgotten

[urban sleet]

Mlynar too

[humble nova]

Oh yeah

[median fable]

there are, just not enough to not make you want to put bellon in a 12 squad

[humble nova]

Yeah yeah yeah okay okay fair but compared to the female side

[median fable]

but idk much about maleknight only, we need to ask the expert

[urban sleet]

We need a yaoi counterpart for fae

[mild yacht]

-# I thought that was Fib's job.

[humble nova]

Does Zuo Le count as a male meta

[surreal sphinx]

if a robot is the only low rarity, does it mean that I have a higher chance to get it? Or are robots a higher rarity alltogether? The only 4* I dont have here are cutter, dobberman and purestream (excluding the guard only tag)

[urban sleet]

Ig, btw hoe is IS5 meta and will also be in cert shop soon

[boreal steeple]

Except ed4 and ed5 is demanding dps

[winter crystal]

tbh i really havent seen the need for hoe besides ending 3 idk the rest just attack speed meta

[humble nova]

Male Metas:

• Silverash Alter
• Mylnar
• Tragodia
• Wang
• Logos
• Ulpianus
• Yu
  Am I missing anyone?
  Im surprised theres quite a few male metas than I previously thought

[frozen echo]

You pick nuker for gold cert

[urban sleet]

Doesnr gvg still use hoe

[mild yacht]

Robots are 1 . They have piss odds of showing up because tags that can guarantee
them are more likely to drop because of the short timer.

[frozen echo]

Yu count?

[humble nova]

Yuh

[tiny chasm]

he is indeed a man

[humble nova]

Decent laneholder, burn, tp, and global arts dmg combo with wall.

[surreal sphinx]

nuker only? And go 9h?

[sly compass]

So 190 pulls plus fluff. 200 pulls not enough to guarantee? I heard that 150 pulls usually enough to get both the limited operators

[frozen echo]

I was joking about him being twink

[humble nova]

He can be.. but uh its whatevs

[frozen echo]

On avg yes, but with bad luck it can be worse, real guarantee is at 300

[mild yacht]

If he's in Fib's collection, he is one.

[urban sleet]

150 is enough indeed
And if yiu are saving 150 outside of free pulls and limited event orundum lottery you have good odds to hit 200 with that, let alone farmjng 50 more pulls

[limpid yarrow]

he's on the council but we do not grant him the rank of man

[humble nova]

Does Zuo Le count btw

[limpid yarrow]

zuo le might tbh
his kit is still fine its just not very flashy

[frozen echo]

Yea, its 99% cutter

[limpid yarrow]

does a lot despite being a musha

[humble nova]

Lumen alter when

[hidden nacelle]

demitiri:

[frozen echo]

After talulah

[humble nova]

Aw

[pseudo flume]

No according to Fib, also I don't think Zuo Le is that meta tbh

[median fable]

male only meta is truly just Trag and Wang 🥹

[humble nova]

When operators get their alters are they completely different from their former? Or do they retain some aspects or their main feature of their former kit?

[pseudo flume]

Mlynar erasure smh

[humble nova]

Logos carrying the arts caster for years he deserves respect

[pseudo flume]

Different mostly

[median fable]

did I stutter ?

[pseudo flume]

You are senile so yes

[hidden nacelle]

astrelgpt is back

[frozen echo]

Skadi

[median fable]

90% of alters completely had different roles than their og counterpart

[lyric lagoon]

s1 and s2 sometimes retain parts of their old kit, but they are different for the most part

[pseudo flume]

Tragodia for example has the cat for lore reasons but the clones didn't carry over

[humble nova]

Will lumen alter remain a concept of negative statuses then? But with different or same role assuming

[median fable]

[pseudo flume]

Wis'adel still has the explosions but didn't get W's mines

[prime dust]

Which one should I pull ?

[pseudo flume]

Better save with how dry your savings is

[prime dust]

Okay

[humble nova]

“Which one” like u have a choice..

[lyric lagoon]

if you’re intended on rerolling, reroll on joint op banner

[abstract mauve]

lumen alter should be an arts guard that deals elemental damage

[pseudo flume]

Wait newbie?

[mild yacht]

Or don't pull and save for Silverash and Pram.

[prime dust]

OF COURSE 😭😭

[lyric lagoon]

elemental dmg arts guard when we already have primal guard 💔

buddy wants a repeat of logos

[mild yacht]

That's just Vivi with the correct kit.

[pseudo flume]

Oh just pull til 1st 6 star or you can wait for SA2 event for reroll

[abstract mauve]

i dont see any true damage class or a weakness damage guard class but we have vina victoria and chen3

[prime dust]

Okay ty

[humble nova]

Lol

[frozen echo]

Elemental dmg is true dmg

[pseudo flume]

Sorry I assumed you were some old relic because some of them has dryer savings than the face of the Sahara desert

[humble nova]

Near true dmg*

[prime dust]

Its okay thank youu

[pseudo flume]

Elem Res still exists so not completely true

[young glacier]

If you ever feel useless, remember, someone coded elemental damage resistance and it is 0 since

[humble nova]

ok

[frozen echo]

Isn't highest Ele res 0?

[pseudo flume]

Just wait, HG will remember to increase it at some point in time 🚬

[lyric lagoon]

we might as well be having true dmg phys dmg soon due to corrosion

[pseudo flume]

Yes but like they had a plan for it 🚬

Who knows if they'll flip the bus and add mega elem res

Anyways they made a counter for Lure pretty fast ngl

[frozen echo]

Watch them add another dmg type with 0 Res after that to shill new units

[mild yacht]

Return of duelist croc, now with 99% ele res.

And they'll give another 20 ops delta mods with elemental by then.

[young glacier]

Brb gonna inflict corrosion 8 times over 1 minute + whatever time it takes to actually stack it per 1k def, also 40k damage from elemental procs and whatever damage i do during stall

[mild yacht]

Don't forget to throw in Tuta or something to steal some so it drops faster.

[limpid yarrow]

nah we be gassing 120 def reduction im cryne

[young glacier]

Anyways, i have ceobe

[sour stratus]

So, what the next upcoming banners? Dont know the best place to ask so I’m asking here

[dense anvil]

Wang banner is the obvious best

[sour stratus]

I skip Suibling banners

[dense anvil]

Based

[mild yacht]

The new banner is...
-# ||the new banner that is newer than the banner that isn't new. ||

[pseudo flume]

SA2 Banner and Wang are the most notable ones

[abstract mauve]

you're just a hater. 120 defense reduciton is the difference between kroos2 dealing 25 damage and like 100 damage 🗣️

[median fable]

Sui hater when they are peak ops 🥹

[pseudo flume]

Well, we also have Titi and Nasti but eh

[sour stratus]

Both skips to me then, I’ve read people mention something about another Scirusa event?

[pseudo flume]

Also Zima Alt but like they feel meh

[pseudo flume]

Bellone, the delusional simp of Vigil

[median fable]

can you at least explain what you want because skipping the best two banners we have for no apparent reasons sounds so non-meta (and this is a meta oriented channel)

if you want good answer just ask good questions

[sour stratus]

I dont care for meta, I care if the Op has a good story behind em

[dense anvil]

He's pulling titi (based behavior)

[vivid yew]

i havent played in over 1-2 years i think, are these units good?

[pseudo flume]

Zima looks good btw but for me I'm skipping due to Wang or MonHun

[sour stratus]

I also skip summer limited banners

[abstract mauve]

zima looks good ye

[vivid yew]

• what does the senior opurator thing do?

[median fable]

#ak-lore can answer this for you since we can't discuss CN lore

[young glacier]

I can relate to that

[pseudo flume]

6 stars are solid minus Ho'oleyak

[mild yacht]

So you skip everything...

[potent tartan]

Lets you recruit a 5 star
More info and quick TLDR in the pins

[pseudo flume]

Do raise Cantabile and Proviso, use Skill 2 for both Silence and Ptilopsis

[median fable]

he clearly only pulls vignette banners

[olive mulch]

greyyalt good? ive seen someone glazing on him and kroos2

[vivid yew]

Where?

[pseudo flume]

That's for IS reasons

[frozen echo]

Lvl 2 office 😭

[median fable]

one of the good 5*, worth to raise depends on roster

[potent tartan]

[vivid yew]

chill i havent played in so long idek how to even play 😭

Ak was always so confuzzling

[humble nova]

Its better to retreat ops with 90 sp skills right?

[slate ridge]

Depends on what you have and what their sp type and their redeploy and initial sp is

[humble nova]

Silverash

[vivid yew]

where is that one website for the job tags

[slate ridge]

S3M3 P1 and no other source of sp buffer ?

[potent tartan]

Just watch out for ranged enemies sniping him to death if youre putting him in the thick of things

[potent tartan]

Krooster
Also linked in the pins

[humble nova]

💀 noted

[humble nova]

M1 and uh ptilo i guess? But generally-speaking retreating him just to activate his skill for dps is fine right?

[pseudo flume]

I recommend playing TR-1 to 15 to remember how to play AK plus go to the Training Room Stages within the Archives Tab

[slate ridge]

SA changes depending on S3M3 and mod3 and P3 P5

[humble nova]

Oh i do have mod3 on him

Wait does the redeployment cd reduction stack with sa2?

[ancient current]

yeah
it seems youre asking a lot about 5*

[slate ridge]

So 56.7s rdp roughly
And you get 65 sp from rdp and have to wait 25s totaling at 81.7s vs 69s Ptilo E2 no mod

[abstract mauve]

kroos2 is fine for newbie against drones. later on she's only really useful against low defense enemies or high buff enviroment like IS5

[humble nova]

That sounds good enough

[slate ridge]

Tldr you lose 11s for retreating SA over waiting for skill again due to Ptilo

[crimson gull]

Guys! What module should I unlock for Phantom? He has 3 modules

[humble nova]

Three modules?!?

[coarse notch]

hes not really worth using, just alpha mod him if you're forcing him

[median fable]

alpha mod exists

[humble nova]

Wait whats the difference between the module types? Such A, B, delta etc?

[olive mulch]

yes, i like 5* thats actually usable and fill their role

[coarse notch]

x/y = normal
alpha = is/ra
delta = elemental/unique

[humble nova]

Ohhh i never knew

[humble nova]

Wait wdym /unique

[median fable]

beta=IS #2

[woven mica]

Should I try hard for degen or wait for paramix alt ?

[limpid yarrow]

delta is for weird things like elemental damage or ela's flexible positioning

[humble nova]

Wait

[coarse notch]

most delta mods give elemental damage
ela's lets her deploy on ground tiles

[abstract mauve]

ela has a delta mod that allows her to be place on low ground tiles and her mines on highground tiles

[humble nova]

So unique is like a custom rule bending trait

[abstract mauve]

unique is only ela mod atp. we dont know if they'll do this in the future

[humble nova]

Also sash2 is good too dont neglect him

[abstract mauve]

wdym try hard for degen. you shouldnt be pulling on the current banner

[woven mica]

I'm new man

[coarse notch]

doesnt matter

[humble nova]

Sash2 banner is around the corner!!

[abstract mauve]

just wait a bit. there should be a big banner soon pram2/sash2 banner that's way more recommended

[coarse notch]

unless you're rerolling your account for lemuen or you're a giga whale you should be skipping this banner

[woven mica]

Total I got 80 pulls think that's good enough or should I farm for more ?

[coarse notch]

not good enough

ideally you enter sash2 banner with 150+ pulls

[median fable]

just skip, even if you had 300 pulls we would have told you to skip JO

[woven mica]

Alr then

[coarse notch]

also you already have sakiko lemuen your account power is more than enough to wait a bit

[humble nova]

Meanwhile me 60 pulls and a dream (i want sash2 more for strategic purposes)

[woven mica]

Thnks that puts my heart at ease

[humble nova]

Farm more before sash2, as priority on ur daily task on arknights. But remember u get 24 total FREE pulls from the banner (10 given, 14 one per day till end)

Get 120 pulls for two hard pity six stars, only exceed if u are near pity due to getting six star early. Otherwise stop there and move on

[crimson gull]

I might need him for Icebreaker and some contents, since I dont have Texas alter or Yato

[woven mica]

That's so much generous from a game thats 6yrs old

[signal dragon]

you're fine without him

[coarse notch]

you also get a bit over 10 pull of orundum from login

[coarse notch]

his module investments are kinda 🚮
alpha mod for the stats and leave it, if you're lacking any meta specialists at all hes copeable in IS with that mod too i guess

[humble nova]

Since your a freshie, you have so much pull income from terminal and annihilations, you can get around 600 pulls this year prob dont quote on me on that tho.

[potent tartan]

Easily more
Theres like 300 pulls just from OP from all the story and challenge modes

[frank talon]

What situations would you ever use that for other than those guys from chap 15

[woven mica]

That shi tough for me man after playing chernobog and lungemen (till downtown ) i haven't played any stages

[coarse notch]

ela delta mod is probably one of strongest modules in the game

[frank talon]

Ah

[woven mica]

For now I'm letting my team grow for 3 months till i start them again

[crimson gull]

Sandmap in expert mode (Icebreaker) is really annoying without fast deploy unit tbh, not everytime I can match a teammate has Texas alter, I play alone so I cant rely on anyone 🌚

[frank talon]

I don't have ela so I don't know shiiii so

[humble nova]

After sash2 (if u get pramalt and sash2 / or maybe wisadel ) you can play more comfortably but for now u can scourge through story well

[coarse notch]

its harder to quantify its impact than mods that just give buffs to numbers but it gives her a ton of placement flexibility

[woven mica]

Yeah fortunately

[signal dragon]

try find someone in #icebreaker-lockers if you need to

[frank talon]

Oh yeah, I'm talking about putting traps on ranged tiles

[rain forge]

What’s ines’s redeployment time with and without mod

[coarse notch]

well, the traps dont need to be stepped on to detonate so as long as theres a ranged tile around your target you can inflict fragility even if you dont have a valid ground tile around them

[frank talon]

Ooh

That's neat

[coarse notch]

yea they have a trigger radius of 1.35 tiles
if they had to be stepped on to work ranged tile mines would be kinda

[coarse notch]

35s and 23s

[rain night]

Most people get 6* by 60th pull right ?

[humble nova]

Yes upon 50, 2% chance is increased and 60 is max guaranteed

[rain night]

Just need to save up like 36 pulls then

[humble nova]

Yeah and remember 24 pulls free from the banner itself

[rain night]

Since only pulling till first 6* because need to save up wang , chen3 and tragodia ( his rate up )

[humble nova]

That is 100% fair thats what im doing cuz I want to spark for shu

[rain night]

Nice.

[coarse notch]

you have enough time between sash2 and wang to build up pulls after depleting everything for sash2
especially if you're new and have op to obtain

[humble nova]

True unless ur sparking cough

[rain night]

My reserve is 0

[humble nova]

No story income and annihilation?

[rain night]

There is story income and annihilations left I'll do those only for getting till 36

[coarse notch]

how did this happen

[wraith shoal]

what,why?

[humble nova]

Kay, well side stories and annihilations are great income

[rain night]

Well I pull on every single banner that's why 😭

[humble nova]

[coarse notch]

too late now i guess but bruh is this your first gacha game

[signal dragon]

why

[rain night]

To test my luck 😁

[abstract mauve]

[humble nova]

Ykw based

[abstract mauve]

you should stay very far away from a casino

[rain night]

Kinda. i dabbled in some hoyo slop, but played it very on and off

[signal dragon]

also stock market

[wraith shoal]

I get testing your luck,but not with all your pulls man

just do a 10 pull and stop there if you really wanna do it

[rain night]

But I really wanna get wang,chen,tragodia so I'll not gamble this time for sure

[buoyant sigil]

IF and only IF you’re itching to pull just drop a headhunting permit from login or some

[rain night]

Hey but this game is my lucky game
I have gotten very lucky in this game

But I will stop gambling

[wraith shoal]

you won't be so lucky when you are gonna need those pulls

[rain night]

[humble nova]

Thats what I said when I got wisadel in ten pulls and my luck killed me during hoshi2 and it made me cope and pulled 100x on kernel

[signal dragon]

arknights has generous rates compared to other gachas

[wraith shoal]

haha same.I got hoshi2 and haruka in my first 20 pulls,and got royally fucked after cause I was confident

[rain night]

Ye I kinda get cucked on every limited banner. Was lucky enough to get halter on the last one though

[humble nova]

I have mixed feelings about this, max pot hoshi2 pot1 haruka 250 pulls, we need an actual banner system for these limiteds cuz holy

[wraith shoal]

yeah but 2% isn't so massive you are safe without saving and planning

[rain night]

Seems so

I am gonna start an alt acc with rerolled walter though just because she is my wife

I might go insane in this process but it's worth it

[wraith shoal]

good luck with that 😭

[rain night]

Thx

[signal dragon]

rerolling wis is gonna take a while, use a emulator if you can

[woven mica]

There are many things wrong with this sentence that doesn't sit right with me but who is Walter ?

[severe crypt]

Because it’ll take like 100 rerolls

[wraith shoal]

..it was sarcastic. You're gonna lose your mind before getting a wisadel cause she's offrate

[rain night]

Sure will

[severe crypt]

Wisadel, w-alter, Walter

[woven mica]

Oh

[rain night]

Can't be worse then reclamation algorithm wood loop

[severe crypt]

Oh no it def is

[rain night]

It's fine

[wraith shoal]

man's just a masochist

[severe crypt]

Allat just for wang to show up 3 months later

[abstract mauve]

i dont remember wang being a wife tho

[signal dragon]

he's a wife to fib

[woven mica]

What is wood loop ?

[severe crypt]

The fastest way to farm point in RA

[woven mica]

Should I check the pins for this ?

[humble nova]

Teach me wood loop 🚬

[signal dragon]

reclamation algorithm, craft glowsticks for points, skip to save day, revert save to 3 days prior and repeat till you clear store

[rain night]

I am not getting walter to just bomb people though I like her.

[craggy mountain]

Wich module is best for saileach?

[humble nova]

Luckkyy u have herr, I might buy the kernel selector for her

[woven mica]

Atleast someone is developing her alongside with me

[severe crypt]

For… saileach?

[abstract mauve]

😟

[humble nova]

She has a huge flag man 🔥

[signal dragon]

uh the one that reduces melee op dp cost but you're fine without mod if you aren't doing high risk CC

[craggy mountain]

Fair

[abstract mauve]

if you dont have mod, she's almost strictly worse than elysium or wanqing

[severe crypt]

I think I’m starting to respect the Pallas simps more

[humble nova]

Then ill get her mods

[turbid ocean]

please avoid unnecessary media
see the channel rules in the pins

[signal dragon]

get her pot 6 smh

[humble nova]

Dont send big gifs that arent relevant in this channel, remove this

(I always wanted to say this)

[woven mica]

Alr my bad

[humble nova]

I guess ik what my kernel selectors will be going

[craggy mountain]

I mean i build her because i like her design

[signal dragon]

I thought she was still standard

[severe crypt]

Wait a minute, I used my kernel selector for Pallas for base 🥹

[abstract mauve]

damn based

[rain night]

Anyone know when saash event stream ?

[signal dragon]

8th

[humble nova]

April8

[limpid yarrow]

saileach second module is the better one ye
one that reduces 2 dp and refunds 2 dp

[severe crypt]

FYI it’s only a jp stream

[humble nova]

Oh..

[severe crypt]

…Yall didnt know its a jp stream

[rain night]

I don't watch stream though I just see the reddit post about the shit we get

[woven mica]

I have the power of English caption (tho not that powerful)

[humble nova]

When was the last time we got redemption codes btw?

[severe crypt]

Well for us global people the stream only serves to officially announce sash2 release

[rain night]

They don't tell what we get for free and stuff?

[signal dragon]

24 free pulls, lottery, limited time packs, bunch of skins in store, the usual limited banner stuff

[severe crypt]

We already know due to cn

[rain night]

Ok so the only free thing is 24 pulls

[signal dragon]

oh and the free top op ig

[humble nova]

Primes from event story + stuff from the event shop

[rain night]

Ah didn't think of those

[humble nova]

And mat farming

[rain night]

Ah ye

[woven mica]

What is mat farming and what top operator did we get in the past ?

[rain night]

But I meant like rewards you know
Also I wanna get a bagpipe from that top op tag pls john ak

[severe crypt]

Ah yes bench recipient #78

[humble nova]

Top operator TAG for sash2 they r not giving us an operator.
And mat farming is material farming. Event stages have specific stages with an uncommon or common rarity drops for materials in which is recommended to farm in

[woven mica]

Ah alr

[rain night]

I just wanna have her and use her skin and set it as my home screen.

[humble nova]

Have you seen wisadel’s april fools skin

[rain night]

Yes

I will buy it on the rerolled acc.

[humble nova]

Gl

[woven mica]

I'm buying even if i don't have her

[severe crypt]

…Yall do know it’s NEXT April 1st, April 1st 2027

[urban bolt]

Where

[wraith shoal]

plenty of time to get her too

[woven mica]

Yes

[wraith shoal]

there are plenty vids with it

[humble nova]

Watch youtube, for us in global it will release next year april fools

[wraith shoal]

does anyone have a website i can view the l2d arts?

[woven mica]

Though some videos shows 24 yen and it my country in could be affordable for me but is it accurate though?

[wraith shoal]

it's 4 bucks

[nimble kite]

Hermitz Skin Planner website in pins.

[buoyant sigil]

We’re all dying when the roach of all things becomes low prio not gonna lie

[woven mica]

True

[buoyant sigil]

If that becomes a reality powercreep will truly have dominated the game

[wraith shoal]

they're not animated though.Also that has only skins,not e2 arts

[fathom nest]

Game uses yuan btw
Same symbol, different currency and conversion

[woven mica]

So how much is us dollars if it becomes global?

[fathom nest]

Should be $4 like tsl said

[woven mica]

Oh alr then

[fathom nest]

https://ak.hypergryph.com/archive/dynamicCompile

[north anvil]

Chat is Pramanix Module worth or not?

[fathom nest]

The 5 star? She wasn't worth getting to e2 to start with 🥹

[young glacier]

Why you using 5* Pramanix

[humble nova]

I think they meant pramalter yall

[fathom nest]

They don't play on CN so I'm doubting that's the case

[mild yacht]

They can still be planning ahead.

[fathom nest]

You're being too optimistic

[mild yacht]

You're right. It's not like you're planning to get Lena2's module.

[north anvil]

right in the year 2026 I would still be using Pramanix 5 star

[fathom nest]

You're still using Exu1 and Ch'otgun

So

[winter crystal]

What kind of niche knights is this

[north anvil]

Do I really have to pull out my main squad my guy

[fathom nest]

Just tell us which Pram you mean, make it clear

[north anvil]

nvm ill ask other discord

[fathom nest]

[young glacier]

Incoming other discord will ask him if he means Pram1 or Pram2

[winter crystal]

Allergic to mods

[mild yacht]

This is turning into 'is your base making at least 40k' all over again.

[winter crystal]

“Wdym 153 is a bad setup?”

[fathom nest]

Bro had to make it as difficult as possible, could just say "no the 6 star" and it would have been done

[wraith shoal]

if he meant the 6 star he would probably say pram2 though

[fathom nest]

You'd expect that

[mild yacht]

Make it even more clear: make the question about Chen's module.

[young glacier]

Phrase it as chen equipment or something so we can add "4th" one to mix

[mild yacht]

Just assume they're talking about Endfield and you have your fourth Chen.

[north anvil]

bro really pulled out reciepts. I was asking questions my guy

[fathom nest]

Pram2 only needs mod1 btw

[north anvil]

oh well I guess this aint the help section

[abstract mauve]

i'd probably get higher mod level tbh for the QoL

[fathom nest]

On deploy layer isn't that big of a deal but ig if they have extra blocks

[abstract mauve]

reminder that i never have extra mod blocks

[mild yacht]

Lovin' that hobo life, eh?

[abstract mauve]

tbh if you are just getting mod1 i'd wait for her 2nd mod

[fathom nest]

Isn't modX the def/res increase?

And no telling how long it'll be until another mod releases for her

[abstract mauve]

trueee

[woven mica]

Btw if i build monster will every 5 star healer become useless? Except for aoe ones ?

[fathom nest]

Ptilo and Warf still have their uses, they just become more niche

[abstract mauve]

uhhhh. useless is in the eye of the beholder

sometimes you'd want to have 2 parts of the map with a healer or smthn

[woven mica]

If I take leumen ?

[fathom nest]

He's poop

[abstract mauve]

lumen is just very expensive

[fathom nest]

Mediocre healing for too high of a cost

[hidden nacelle]

18op skin gives +10% atk

[fathom nest]

That wouldn't even help

[abstract mauve]

there's quite a few generally better 4* and 5* healers and 2 strictly better 6* afk healers

[woven mica]

I have whisperain so should i stop building her or what ?

[abstract mauve]

oh yeah she's worse than lumen

[woven mica]

Then lumen it is then

[hidden nacelle]

no momst3r Haruka or ptilopsis?

[fathom nest]

Do you not have Ptilo, Silence, Sussurro, Perfumer?

[woven mica]

I have plitopis silence which one ?

[ancient lotus]

Why not just use 4 star / 5 star healers until you pull a good one

[fathom nest]

Use both of them

[woven mica]

No ssuurro and perfumer

[abstract mauve]

ptilo and silence generally considered better for a cheaper price. sussuro has some really good burst healing. purestream has meta usage in is5 and is6. warfarin has more fun applications. quercus has same healing as lumen but for a lesser cost and gives some sanctuary

ptilo and silence particularly cuz they are guaranteed to new player from vouchers
there's basically no reason to ever build lumen

[humble nova]

Is taraxacum good?
Cuz like a flyinv medic basically makes him untouchable right

[winter crystal]

They are also perfectly useable at E1

[wraith shoal]

for ground mobs

[woven mica]

This one ?

[humble nova]

Good enough unless monster collab is flying gameplay time

[ancient lotus]

5 star silence

[abstract mauve]

NOT this one. the 5*

[winter crystal]

Is that the silence you thought you had?

[woven mica]

I am a pure broke atp I don't see none of them or either I am blind

[worldly estuary]

Hopefully there’s no ptilo alt

[limpid yarrow]

6 star silence for that stronghold protocol buff

[woven mica]

Ye

[winter crystal]

Ok so you just have ptilo

[humble nova]

Taraxacum might become meta chat frfr

[coarse notch]

you have warfarin ptilo mon3tr you're fine
also you do have sussuro

[woven mica]

Really? Lemme check rq

[winter crystal]

He’s got monster? Oh then he’s fine wut

[woven mica]

Ye

[boreal steeple]

Use her then, she will get a module on lapp2 rerun

[winter crystal]

E1 monster to use her S2 same with ptilo if you need two healers to feel comfy

[worldly estuary]

M3 might be just fine for general content

[ancient lotus]

Then just use mon3tr, one of the best in the game

You dont typically need a second one for gen content

[humble lava]

April fool event ends at what date?

[winter crystal]

8

[worldly zealot]

which kaltsit module to get(not the is)

[coarse notch]

panacea but like why

[worldly zealot]

should i get the is one

[winter crystal]

X

[coarse notch]

just get the IS one

[buoyant sigil]

Is mon3 one of those units you only e1 40 or is she good at e260? what’s her breakpoint
I did get her to the latter but just checking

[woven mica]

Alr I am true blind i have purestream , perfumer (tho she is levelled to 45 idk how) and ssuro , tho no silence

[worldly zealot]

i dont really play is though

[limpid yarrow]

mon is a good e2

[boreal steeple]

She's good at both

[worldly estuary]

She works as a true damage dealer in e2 s3

[coarse notch]

kaltsit isnt really worth the module investment of her actual modules so just use the stats from the IS mod

[winter crystal]

There no break point but you do want her E2 lvl 60 eventually. She is serviceable at E1 lvl 40 though for general healing purposes

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah I do have her at e2
Since I’m pretty new and lack a second carry I’ve been using her s3 whenever there’s something tougher around

[woven mica]

So ,is mon3ter worth the module ?

[worldly estuary]

She doesn’t even have rn

[buoyant sigil]

Uhh… What about her module? How is it? It’s releasing p soon right

[coarse notch]

her mod seems kinda meh
its completely useless for her s3

[boreal steeple]

She will get it soon but you just focus on leveling her for general usage

[worldly zealot]

which modue for ascalon?

[coarse notch]

modx1

[signal dragon]

mod x level 1

[winter crystal]

Yeah whatever works gen content doesn’t require meta Strats. Also her S3 is goated for High diff IS

[worldly zealot]

ty!

[boreal steeple]

Reduces healing punishment of her trait and extra 10% atk buff from construct

[coarse notch]

imo just get mod1 for mon3tr

[worldly estuary]

So it’s kinda limited to s2

[buoyant sigil]

Fr, true damage helped an unreal amount on things like the annoying mudrock golems of wolumonde

[coarse notch]

normally you deploy the construct next to mon3tr when shes in s3 to buff her damage
its a pretty small buff tho and the mod changes don't really change it

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah I see that

[buoyant sigil]

Are those stats for mod level 1 or mod level 3

[ancient lotus]

Yeah S3 is also usable outside of IS

[boreal steeple]

First is mod1, extra atk buff on talent is mod3

[coarse notch]

trait change is mod1
atk buff is +5% per mod level after

[buoyant sigil]

I feel I’m probably just getting mod1 ngl

[winter crystal]

Unless you’re min maxing for IS high diff mod 1 is fine

[boreal steeple]

I love sakiko go brrr

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah it’s not that impactful I feel

[hoary ruin]

It looks like SA2 event and Porta Dei Vel rerun both should have farmable RMA70-12 (The gold spiky pyramid looking thing).

Does it matter which of those two events I farm this mat in?

I need the RMA70 more than compound cutting fluid atm so I was gonna farm the pyramid during SA2 event.

[worldly estuary]

IS buffed sakiko is just

[buoyant sigil]

Yess that s3 with the mon3 atkspd buff is nuts

[worldly zealot]

what purpose does u-official serve if any

[raven ermine]

Look at both event, check what you need, and if it doesn't clash, farm rma, sure

[boreal steeple]

Doesn't matter tbh, you can grind at both depending which resource you should focus on

[coarse notch]

stun bomb in IS
trolling your teammates in icebreaker

[limpid yarrow]

stun bomb

[raven ermine]

You can also use penguin to check which stage has the best efficiency

[worldly zealot]

she stuns enemies too?

never knew that, thanks!

||off to troll in icebreaker||

[winter crystal]

Most people would ask if she stuns friendlies

[mild yacht]

-# Don't forget to bring your Aak and Vendela!

[worldly zealot]

its april fools so i just assumed she did

[raven ermine]

And spuria

[boreal steeple]

-# If you plan to troll (and get match ban) i can slide a strat in dms

[mild yacht]

Conviction conditioned

[worldly zealot]

ty, go for it

[winter crystal]

I’ve got 3 people so far to quite the game bc I stole Wis

[light latch]

Bring ela and replace all the high ground tiles with traps

[worldly zealot]

also s2 mastery for ascalon right

[buoyant sigil]

bring raidian and fill all the important spots with summons

facing the wrong way ofc

[worldly estuary]

Is purestream worth having mod3 or she’s just fine at mod1?

[raven ermine]

Mod3 is cheap and pretty good for her hps

[winter crystal]

Place all radian S1 down to block enemies then retreat radian right before they block anything

Open the flood gates

[boreal steeple]

She's bad at it, since summons take slots

[worldly estuary]

Yeah, healing buff sounds good
Thanks

[buoyant sigil]

true…

[mild yacht]

Bring Tragodia and only drop the cat when mobs are going into their ops' range and bait them away.

[boreal steeple]

I dont see why mod3 is necessary but since it cheap you can stay at mod1 or mod3

[limpid yarrow]

the new 20% bonus healing talent is actually pretty nice to have

[buoyant sigil]

place down all your liberators and coincidentally forget about using skills

that mylnar is NEVER activating

[winter crystal]

Just always be ready to steal sakiko whn you see a full band squad

[raven ermine]

Just shiftknight the whole stage into their blue box 🥱

[buoyant sigil]

I had that happen to me once 😭

[woven mica]

Gladiia worth the build ?

[feral scarab]

I assume that SĄ alter banner after this event? Or after current banner?

[weak owl]

pramanix's snow affects only ground enemies?

[boreal steeple]

We will see after jp livestream on 8th april

[feral scarab]

When it will be?

[buoyant sigil]

They dropped the sakiko in the furthest tile possible right next to the red box used s1 too

[raven ermine]

Depend on what your current account look like, but she's incredibly niche, and basically lowest prio you can think of

[abstract mauve]

me think mayu is biased because ulpianus pfp

[boreal steeple]

Sakiko s1 with band is decent actually. Fever charge is fast

[abstract mauve]

sakiko s1 only used with umiri s1

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah except for the “furthest tile possible without a medic” she just died instantly

[raven ermine]

Maybe

[boreal steeple]

Mayu loves AH thats reasonable

[mild yacht]

The only reason for me to use my e0lv1 Suckiko.

[woven mica]

And if I use blaze alter instead of amiya will it make any difference?

[abstract mauve]

amiya is ass but blaze alter is usable so ye

[raven ermine]

In my defense, i unironically used her for shiftcancels in RAcc

[buoyant sigil]

do dreadnoughtknights in a gramophone stage and I WILL find you I promise

[neon siren]

2 more days argh

[woven mica]

Btw is it enough if my base produces 33k lmd after 24 hrs ?

[raven ermine]

It's a bit low

[abstract mauve]

the higher the better

[buoyant sigil]

I’ve genuinely seen an e2 60 skadi1 used in icebreaker and it was a traumatizing experience

[boreal steeple]

Dont swear on skadi like that :<

[neon siren]

Kinda low, 45 to 50k a day is considered enough to get by with

[raven ermine]

I used skadi
I carried my poor team mate
Methink doctor issue

[potent tartan]

Getting to 40k+ a day shouldnt take a lot of resources

[worldly estuary]

Damn, I really need proviso

[buoyant sigil]

it was a gramophone stage 😭 the one where you need range for vision yknow…

[mild yacht]

People were making more than 33k a day before Proviso.

[woven mica]

With no drone boosting right ?

[raven ermine]

45k should be the norm-ish without proviso

[raven ermine]

The near light one ? You can get vision with ground ops too

[boreal steeple]

Everything is doable with roaming squad, trust

[snow siren]

What should I do?

[limpid yarrow]

how do you randomly stumble into ed5 this is a legendary post

[worldly hornet]

Question is puzzle worth building given he's a Agent vanguard

[limpid yarrow]

lose salvation take the egg tbh

worlds first medium egg clear

[snow siren]

What's the egg?

[worldly hornet]

Damn is he really that bad even as an agent ?
Thought he's like surfer

[limpid yarrow]

body of the end and endless key

should go all the way to stasis next time tbh

[hoary ruin]

His skills are bad compared to Canta and Surfer unfortunately.

[snow siren]

BRO WHY DID YOU MAKE THE GAME MORE DIFFICULT FOR ME

[limpid yarrow]

what i thought you were trying to beat ed5

[worldly hornet]

Unfortunately I don't have any Agents well hope to get one eventually

[limpid yarrow]

you even fused despair into salvation and everythinig

[boreal steeple]

Ed5 is like that

[abstract mauve]

nae he's not particularly bad but it's better to stick with ines/sash2 or canta/surfer when given the chance

[raven ermine]

offensive recovery for both skills
S2 would be decent without off.rec, but s1 dp gen is atrocious without procc'ing his talent every single hit, and s2 cycle is uh

[limpid yarrow]

hes okay with the giant asterisk of "there needs to be some friendly device that he can constantly hit to trigger his +sp talent"

[hoary ruin]

You'll get a lot of 5*s next time you pull on a banner at least. Reasonable chance for Canta or Surfer to show up.

[limpid yarrow]

like, for example, the originium altar in ccb3
otherwise outclassed

[mild yacht]

-# Just give him Stainless s3

[raven ermine]

The 2 ops vanguard combo
Borken

[neon siren]

Does sa2 s3 work with ines s3 0 deployment cost?

[worldly zealot]

ascalon does not need slow mod lv3 right

[worldly hornet]

Gotcha he's just suboptimal compared to other agents

[neon siren]

Huh

[boreal steeple]

But then ines gets sent into shadowrealm of 48 seconds

[winter crystal]

Diff 1 triple stage boss fight is a hell of a way to get introduced to IS5

[abstract mauve]

iirc it just considered the dp cost of ines not the 0 dp cost summon

[raven ermine]

No, modx1 is enough

[neon siren]

There's a stage in the sa2 event where I want drop wis directly for dmg, to ignore the mechanic, so was planning out a team

[worldly zealot]

ty!

[abstract mauve]

if someone can find a vid of it. this is just what i remember

[neon siren]

Yea, so it works rt?

[snow siren]

Thanks for getting me to lose.

[neon siren]

Mhm alright

[abstract mauve]

if it works the way i said, there wouldnt be a difference between ines s2 or s3

[raven ermine]

Learning experience

[winter crystal]

Ok but that stage has nothing to do with ending 5, also not like I’d expect you to be able to win against ending 5 when you’re this new 😭

[mild yacht]

-# You're fine, Senomy solo.

[snow siren]

The guy literally gave me the worst advice

[limpid yarrow]

this is correct
the swapped operator will maintain ines's usual DP cost while ines will still cost 0 the first time(because first deployment is -99dp) and then the 2nd deployment is the swapped cost
and then the 3rd deployment is normal

[neon siren]

IS = Integrated Suffering

Dw, u won't make the same Mistake again

[snow siren]

I would've won if they didn't give me shit advice

[neon siren]

Hmm ig so

[hexed adder]

Its roguelike, have fun with it

[raven ermine]

For their defense, you were routing for ed5, which is not something you stumble upon randomly usualy

[neon siren]

No advice is shit advice lmfao.
IS is supposed to be a pain, plus like the 🌲 said, u were going for ed5 anyways, apparently

[snow siren]

I wasn't going for anything

[raven ermine]

That's how you learn

[snow siren]

I literally asked them not knowing that the thing they gave me makes the game harder

[mild yacht]

If you weren't going for anything, then not getting anywhere isn't a problem.

[winter crystal]

Well you made a couple specific decisions along the way to even get the choice to go for ending 5

[neon siren]

[limpid yarrow]

i feel like its reasonable to assume that someone that picked cadence, killed cadence, and then fused into salvation was trying for ed5

[snow siren]

Nah, y'all just wanted me to lose

[raven ermine]

Surely, right

[winter crystal]

Bruh

[neon siren]

🍿

[snow siren]

That's not right, you didn't even ask me if I wanted to do that

[hexed adder]

Maybe, u asked anyway

[mild yacht]

Yep, we even went into your game and made choices leading you to ed5 before you even asked.

[limpid yarrow]

yes my bad i should have clarified first 😔

[neon siren]

Dude it's not that deep, just do another run

[winter crystal]

You made every turn on the highway to go to New York, get to the toll to get into New York and blame us for telling you to pay the toll

[neon siren]

How humble of a 🌲

[hexed adder]

have everything dude gave u right answer tbh

[light latch]

Isnt reaching all or nothing with salvation on u like the final step of that ending

[potent tartan]

You do realise the only question you asked was 'What should I do'
Not 'Whats the easiest way to win' right

[neon siren]

Idk how he even died that stage
-# look at his Operators

[potent tartan]

If youre offloading the thinking process to us, you cant blame us for assuming what your goals are

[winter crystal]

Ok but like tbf I just noticed you have 10 collectibles again on floor 4

Stop actively avoiding combat notes

You had to go to two encounter nodes just to get to that screenshot alone

Any encounter node you should be refreshing for lamp or talons

Also explains why you are lvl 4 on floor 4

[left tulip]

May I ask do these refresh when a map rotates in and out of annihilation or once they’re cleared that’s it

[ember rover]

One and done

[hexed adder]

I wish

[crisp karma]

Hello… how do I get past difficulty level 6 in is2 💀 I can clear difficulties 10-11 for is3 and is6 but is2 is stumping me for no reason

[left tulip]

So do I lose anything if I don’t clear these in the next 7 days

[vital kelp]

Is2 is very luck dependent

[abstract mauve]

they'll come back in a few months time

you say is2 is luck dependent as if "highrolling" is a thing you can even do in is2

[left tulip]

I see, how about the weekly cap then? Since it requires to play a specific map?

[winter crystal]

Really depends on the ops you have to choose from, all ISs are different so being good at one and bad at another doesn’t mean anything

[hexed adder]

They all rotate in batch, so no worry. All first rewards wont reset too

[limpid yarrow]

draft stronger operator

[limpid yarrow]

high end is2 is funny
by end of f5 you have 10 relics and 6 of them are negative

[potent tartan]

The map for the weekly cap will change, so you can get the final 100 cap on a different map

[left tulip]

Also then, the only refreshing reward of annihilation is the weekly cap thing then?

[hoary ruin]

Do you want to actively avoid combat nodes in any of the different IS modes?

Or is it always just "take as many combat nodes as possible"?

[vital kelp]

I say luck dependent as in if u get bad routes/levels u could be really underdeveloped

[crisp karma]

Ic.. do you have any ops you reccomend for is2?

[limpid yarrow]

combat is generally not the worst since xp + voucher gains are usually more valuable than a very random encounter

[left tulip]

So wait, the "first clear rewards" of that map get recycled with weekly cap increase whenever a map is in the spot of the rotation?

[proven kelp]

Speedrunning low D IS5 with Lamp doesn't want you to take that much Combat!

[winter crystal]

There are specific IS combat nodes you’d want to avoid in almost every IS but they are generally towards the final floors. You do want to generally take as many combat nodes as you can though

[potent tartan]

if youre asking whether you can get +100 cap every refresh, then no
But im not sure if thats your question

[crude monolith]

when does the april fools event end?

[winter crystal]

This is also why generally bonsky is always sought after in your runs

[urban sleet]

What killari said^ and you should take emergency stages too if you can handle them, especially on lower floors

[winter crystal]

Emergency will give relics while regular has a low chance to

[abstract mauve]

are there any particularly bad combats in is2?

[limpid yarrow]

there are a lot of squadchecks in is2 it kinda sucks

[urban sleet]

There are some on lower floors depending on your drafts iirc

[winter crystal]

Oh god Idek I haven’t played is2 in a while but I don’t remember avoiding stuff?? It was mostly “do I have x op or I really can’t win”

[limpid yarrow]

ya a lot of stages boil to "do i have x op in my squad"

[left tulip]

Essentially, when lungmen downtown rotates out, when it comes back in, is it gonna be with the same first clear rewards, or is it gonna have the ones the other maps have? Do you have to replay the map that increases cap whenever an annihilation rotates? Also what’s the point of the saltfin rotation vs the ones with 7 days remaining?

[abstract mauve]

is2 squad checks are like. do you have a vanguard? do you have some healer? do you have some operator that can beat this one fuckass mortar?

but i wouldnt call those stages you'd avoid per se

[left tulip]

Like is there a set of maps that have increased weekly cap as their reward, and one where it’s just orundum, or are they all mixed and their first clear rewards are moved around

[winter crystal]

Getting a new debuff on every floor while also being naturally starved for relics is a funny experience in IS2

[urban sleet]

Saltfin is main rotating map, gives for every clear

Other rotating maps give first time rewards, you should do them as they are good (400 in one go btw)

[limpid yarrow]

luckily is2 has the class squad at its peak power so you really just have to rely on your strong drafts to beat things

snipermed a good pick here

[potent tartan]

First time rewards will not swap. Itll be the same one youve cleared before
Its permanently a one and done

[woven mica]

Is mountain good to be left e1 ?

[urban sleet]

And yeah main rotating map increases weekly cap, linit is 1.8k

[left tulip]

Don’t all maps give orundums for every clear filling the weekly cap? Is the one from saltfin increased ?

[urban sleet]

E1 max thats it

[left tulip]

Do you have to redo the cap increase on every rotation

[potent tartan]

No, only the 3 permanent one and one rotating one gives weekly orundum
The others only give the total kill based rewards

[winter crystal]

Get cap to 1800 and youre good to farm the max oru each week by auto completing the stages

[urban sleet]

Aforementioned rotating maps don't, they are only for first-time clears

And yeah saltfin's rates (or any main rotating map for that matter) are bettee than permanent maps like lungmen and chernobog

Theres the anni ticket from daily missions to skip watching the entire clear again btw

[limpid yarrow]

ye olden days of letting your phone run the clear for like half an hour each time

[winter crystal]

8th

[left tulip]

I see, btw why does saltfin have a greater first clear than like tidehollow for example?

[boreal steeple]

And get a relic that buffs from negatives right?

[crude monolith]

thanks. i couldn't find any info in game

[limpid yarrow]

how do we tell them

[winter crystal]

Just play it for a “interesting” experience

[urban sleet]

For the third time, other rotating maps dont give apart from first-time clear
So tidehollow gives you 0
Main rotating maps have a better rate since they are harder than permanent maps (relatively speaking)

[woven mica]

So do they reset the rewards? I mean the orundum

[potent tartan]

I feel like Higuruma in court rn

[winter crystal]

The 1800/1800 is reset each week to 0/1800 and you can farm 1800 again

Is that what you mean?

[woven mica]

Ik it's bum question but trust i dont touch anni stages

[left tulip]

I meant for the first clear as well, saltfin has 1000 for 400 kills while tidehollow has 600 iirc. Is that tied to being seen as more difficult as well?

[woven mica]

No

[winter crystal]

Ok well start touching them

[potent tartan]

Sorry, venting
But only the weekly orundum resets in annihlation. Absolutely nothing else

[woven mica]

Ah so that's it then

[urban sleet]

Main rotating map bonus

Touch all these annihilation maps if yoh havent, we have a limited banner coming soon

[left tulip]

I see, is it always the same maps being the main rotating ones? Like, next time saltfin comes up, is it gonna be 1k again?

[hexed adder]

All first clear rotation is 1500 orundumb tbh

[potent tartan]

Wasnt it 1200
I forgor

[raven ermine]

Why ? You do know that's one of the main sources of orundum right ?

[limpid yarrow]

doing 4 first clear rewards is a 10 pull right there

[urban sleet]

Once you get the first clear reward for a map you cant get it again when it returns

[inland swallow]

who's the best chars to pair proviso with in TP lv3?

[limpid yarrow]

and useful materials as a bonus

[grizzled tangle]

Should I use Warfarin or Perfumer.

[urban sleet]

#r-i-i-c pinned guide has info on that

[urban sleet]

Do you have sussuro/purestream?

[woven mica]

I mean I do the dailies but no to other stages

[winter crystal]

Ptilo, silence, purestream if you can

[grizzled tangle]

I got purestream.

[potent tartan]

For general content?
Warf is a supporter in a medic skin

[winter crystal]

E1 her

[urban sleet]

If no ptilopsis/silence raise purestream, need to e1 her for base anyways asw

[raven ermine]

Glad to hear that, i thought you just didn't do your weeklies
If you ever farm stages for originite, consider doing annihilations sim first, they're way more efficient

[grizzled tangle]

Did that a long time ago

[inland swallow]

got it, thx for the reminder hmm more order acquisition efficiency

[woven mica]

This community is literally the nicest community i ever found other pure toxicity for asking help or get death threats for having opinion tho I won't say the names

[urban sleet]

cough we do factcheck to death cough

[winter crystal]

Average help experience

[left tulip]

I see, but then, are there a set of maps which have 1000 as their first clear reward for 400 kills, and those are always the main target ones?

[grizzled tangle]

Also I've been using 2 medics at once because most things happen on 2 fronts where 1 medic doesn't reach. And Warfarin feels a bit. Eh. So I'm thinking if replacing her with Perfumer (Other medics incase they are decentt?)

[mild yacht]

-# How dare you call us friendly!

[potent tartan]

Nicest
Im sorry to hear that

[urban sleet]

Bro you do have sussuro
Raise her for your 2nd medic

[winter crystal]

use warf and purestream since you have them E1 (suss if you want to replace warf) what do you need more healing for?

[grizzled tangle]

I'm blind, yay!

[raven ermine]

I wouldn't invest further in other medics
Just use warf s1, and pure for now
If you need more for a specific stage, try to fill with ansel before considering sussuro

[woven mica]

Bro is me fr

[urban sleet]

Clear every map for which first-clear rewards are pending priority kinda useless in this case unless you realised it too late and can do only one before they close up, in thag case yeah the map which gives you more total orundum is your go-to

[buoyant sigil]

Is this another victim of exu1

[grizzled tangle]

What's exu1

[urban sleet]

I tried to unsee it shush

[woven mica]

He is not too far gone like me

[winter crystal]

And no owls which is concerning

[raven ermine]

Also use s1 on myrtle

[urban sleet]

Now thats one more thing to unsee

[buoyant sigil]

Exusiai. They’re really bad. You’re better off using kroos the three star as a sniper I’d say

[urban sleet]

Its fine, invested quite a bit already

Just keep using her but yeah not all 6 stars are the samd

[potent tartan]

Shes better now that shes levelled and promoted
It is what it is

[grizzled tangle]

I used exu before I even joined this discord, was absolutely Doing random stuff on my own.

[buoyant sigil]

I guess
The spread out levels also hurt a little since you should usually not spread your resources thin between ops for uneven levels

[winter crystal]

If exu was E0 id agree with you but just don’t raise her any further

[urban sleet]

And dont e2 her btw

[woven mica]

Bro is literally meee

[buoyant sigil]

I feel like that Ray also would really really like the e2

[grizzled tangle]

That is on the way, I'm poor in every other area apart from money

[winter crystal]

Baby steps

[buoyant sigil]

Good, good

[urban sleet]

Now that I think about it
Perfumer is a base slave that isnt e1
I have a feeling their base slaves are untouched

[raven ermine]

Raise your baseslaves too
Perfumer not being e1 makes me think you haven't

[buoyant sigil]

Also did you not claim Ptilopsis/Silence in vouchers? What did you get from the beginner vouchers

[grizzled tangle]

Let's not talk about my base, alright guys?

[urban sleet]

shouldn't have said that, now we will

[grizzled tangle]

Been months man. No clue what the choices were even.

[raven ermine]

Fix it early on, invest in it, and you'll raise your ops faster

[gentle dove]

Yeah do your homework

[grizzled tangle]

wait is silence some rabbit in dark clothing?

[steep goblet]

I got softlocked idk what to do

[keen hedge]

Owl

[potent tartan]

shes noctowl

[woven mica]

That's amiya

[raven ermine]

Nah, she's a 5* medic looking like an owl

[urban sleet]

Elaborate

[winter crystal]

She’s an owl 🦉

So is ptilo

[woven mica]

She looks like this

[grizzled tangle]

I'm thinking of the white hair 1. Forgot imma js send krooster

[potent tartan]

literally how

[gentle dove]

Ya

[urban sleet]

Thats silence alter

[woven mica]

With glasses

[winter crystal]

So close yet so far

[steep goblet]

I ran out of lmd and i cant do story

[hexed adder]

Its contact lense in that form

[raven ermine]

You too, should raise your baseslaves

[grizzled tangle]

https://krooster.com/u/baral

[urban sleet]

Check beginner guide in pins (roadless camelot) for base guide
Your base will provide you with all the lmd/exp you need

[winter crystal]

Time to start IS5 or do the icebreaker event for sanity free rewards or RA 🥀

[grizzled tangle]

IF YOU DARE MENTION ROSMANTIS. Idk man.

[woven mica]

Uhhh lapland ?

[gentle dove]

Yeah it's quite easy to hit 50k lmd daily

[urban sleet]

Lvl 49 yeah get to work on yohr base already

[buoyant sigil]

Uhh… praying you didn’t choose lappland, specter or cliffheart in the voucher that had Ptilopsis (image below) as a choice

[grizzled tangle]

Someday

[grizzled tangle]

Guess what.

[buoyant sigil]

do you remember what you chose in the voucher that had her

[steep goblet]

Is5?

[gentle dove]

I love ptilopsis tap dialogue thing in base

[urban sleet]

Right now base is like getting a job in terms of exp/lmd income

[winter crystal]

E1 your click

[potent tartan]

...but you dont need LMD to do story?
unless im reading this wrong
Most of the story map can be solod by a good op from support unit. And you can always just come back to the story later
That doesnt make it a softlock

[grizzled tangle]

More than likely it's lappy

[raven ermine]

don't invest in rosmo
But yeah raise your baseslaves, check #bot-spam /base and /baseskills
outside of that, just e2 ray, mod2 for surtr, mody2 when it's out for ray
Raise skill levels to 7 for your team

[winter crystal]

Integrated strategy, it’s a roguelike game mode that gives you a lot of resources and doesn’t cost sanity just need to grind and IS5 is the easiest

[buoyant sigil]

Oh my god where did you get your projekt red btw? Was it a voucher? If yes, rip

[keen hedge]

Be sure you don't miss U-Official from April fool's event 😬

[rocky pilot]

What have I woken up to

[raven ermine]

What's the point of arguing about what they did or didn't pick

[grizzled tangle]

Red? Idk i got her from Recruiting iirc, ye it was recruitment

[gentle dove]

Oh right how are conviction potentials obtained?

Seriously chat

[mild yacht]

Did you look at the op?

[grizzled tangle]

Huh?

[steep goblet]

I mean my squad is decent ig but i just cant do 2-8

[gentle dove]

Hold on

[raven ermine]

can you sort your roster by rarity and send it ?

[winter crystal]

Like regular story stage 2-8?

[buoyant sigil]

it happens..

[woven mica]

Show us the squad

[steep goblet]

Yeah...

[gentle dove]

Yeah just looked my conviction. Like, it can't get potentials?

[keen hedge]

Free 1⭐ operator you can only get on early April, I noticed she isn't in your roster

[vital kelp]

Yes

[winter crystal]

Ok…yeah we need to see your krooster that shouldn’t happen

[potent tartan]

Then borrow a unit that can solo it
You dont need to unlock auto deploy on 2-8

[woven mica]

That's a joke operator

[gentle dove]

I see thanks

[buoyant sigil]

oh, oh wow.

[grizzled tangle]

I'mma go get her now then

[mild yacht]

Which means nothing when Eureka is also a joke character but has pots.

[buoyant sigil]

This… I’m pretty sure this can clear 2-8, no?

[potent tartan]

Yeah no this should win

[young glacier]

Bring 3* kroos for handling drone on another half of map or something if you leaking drone

[raven ermine]

roster would've been better but that'll work ig
ditch shaw/shira
Use spot over gummy, noir corne instead of shaw, and kroos 3* over shira

[woven mica]

Uh yes if placement correct

[winter crystal]

https://youtu.be/1D_cx7W4JbQ?si=_3MFpkaQPAt-lG03

this is the squad and video notice how none of his ops are even E1

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking

[raven ermine]

Also use fang, you don't have a vanguard

[woven mica]

This can solve his problem

[steep goblet]

Its prob skill issue

[buoyant sigil]

It’s likely to solve their problems yes, 2-8 is pretty easy

[winter crystal]

Yeah just comes with time like knowing your last deployed op drawls aggro from enemies so place your defender last etc

[steep goblet]

I have problem with drones

[woven mica]

With time u can get anything that you need if u grind enough

[raven ermine]

Which is why we're telling you to use kroos 3*

[winter crystal]

Use 3 star kroos with 5 star kroosalter

[steep goblet]

I dont have xp mats to level up 3*kross

[winter crystal]

That’s fine the video literally shows E0 ops

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah

[potent tartan]

Just bash your head in until you win
Some of those OPs can already do the heavy lifiting

[gentle dove]

You have 5 star kroos you're fine

[potent tartan]

Spectre + Mountain can already deal with almost the entire ground troops

[gentle dove]

Just replace what you see in the video with similar/better ops and adjust to your roster

[steep goblet]

I will try

[buoyant sigil]

Is 2-8 the one with only the drones + jetpacks or is it like skullshatterer
Am I thinking about the wrong chapter

[woven mica]

The first

[winter crystal]

You got this

[potent tartan]

No its just some random map on a rooftop with drones and some metal spiders

[woven mica]

U need shaw in this stage

[raven ermine]

Just borrow then

[buoyant sigil]

Oh is it the one with the improves pushing tile and the early drones

[potent tartan]

ye

[buoyant sigil]

Ohh that one ye makes sense you just need to get kroos asap ig

[gentle dove]

I remember the first stage I had to surrender and watch a guide for was 5-7 and I was dumbfounded by how kyo cleared it with these low end ops and called it easy

[dry sentinel]

Anyway i can speedrun the integrated strategies rewards or do i have to just grind it out slowly

[gentle dove]

What do you mean

[dry sentinel]

I wanna just get the typhon and mudrock skins and move on with my life but every run takes so long snd every completed run gives like 3 levels

[buoyant sigil]

Mine was the third-fifth stage of dossoles holiday since I was very early game and good op-less

[steep goblet]

I lost

[buoyant sigil]

Try to see what’s going wrong and why you’re losing and have another go
What enemies are getting to the blue box?

[left tulip]

Wait how do you get such skins from IS👀

[steep goblet]

Drones only

[gentle dove]

They're level rewards on is

[steep goblet]

I will farm cargo escort and e1 kross alter

[dry sentinel]

You get to level 80 for the typhon one. 100 for mudrock i think. It's such a drag

[left tulip]

Which?

[buoyant sigil]

Do NOT farm cargo escort

[steep goblet]

Why

[gentle dove]

Dunno, i know that there's a typhoon skin in is4 lvl 80

[buoyant sigil]

is4 and is5. Typhon skin = sami is, mudrock skin = sarkaz is

[steep goblet]

Should i just add exusiai to my squad for this mission only?

[keen hedge]

Try to have fun instead of just grinding for the reward. That's the best tip I can give. 😎 Also, don't worry if you can only clear low difficulties it's fine. 😇

[buoyant sigil]

Very sanity inefficient for the resources you get, if anything just try again and again place the kroos as soon as you can

[left tulip]

If you’re desperate a borrow can carry the stage

[gentle dove]

Yea

[steep goblet]

Borrow makes it so easy its no fun

[raven ermine]

Well are you stuck or are you not ?

[gentle dove]

You'll make me faint

[raven ermine]

What's the difference if you ask for us to handhold compared to borrowing

[buoyant sigil]

Even if kroos is level 1 she should have a chance here