help

[spare jetty]

purestream,ethan

[nimble kite]

You should. Like you have to kill them.

[waxen flame]

Should I change all ops to ranged

[inland osprey]

is it a good idea to raise eyja now ? considering i need ranged caster, since most of my arts dmg came from melle units

[nimble kite]

No, some should be melee.

[urban sleet]

I have no good ones ❌
I am not good enough ✅

[rain forge]

What ops are good for trolling in icebreaker

[simple mortar]

Are the pro enchancement packs worth it ? Not really planning to buy skins

[slate ridge]

you can block if you just break blocks and get a force 2 puller or Yu but even Kroos kills them in time no

[waxen flame]

also its adverse mode 12-19 btw

[frozen echo]

If you dont have logos, yes

[shadow bay]

depends on who are ur list for e2

[brazen gulch]

sorry magnanimous was probably the wrong word. but yeah like i said i use him in both gen content and IS (not super high diff though) and he's just great. i just don't know what others think and if my experience is the exception or not

[nimble kite]

Aak, Spuria, U-Official, Conviction.

[spare jetty]

always

[obtuse obsidian]

eyja is solid for those who dont have any logos/mantra/reed

[glossy schooner]

Yes, gives extra rewards and equivalent orundun to converting the prime to orundun directly

[opaque remnant]

You should buy them if you can, it gives back the op in orundum with extra resources

[inland osprey]

yep dont have him , or any good caster except her to be fair

[urban sleet]

Barely changes anything
Your roster is more stacked than mine but I dont find the stage remotely challenging since I read enemy mechanics

[frozen echo]

Ceobe? S2M3 + mod

[shadow bay]

packs are good esp if u plan to use for pulling

packs basically to conversion with freebies

[rain forge]

why spuria

also what’s the minimum level I should build spuria uoff and conviction to in order to troll people

[urban sleet]

And didnt you beat this stage on normal omce

[inland osprey]

https://www.krooster.com/u/bright-brown-shu-38mh heres my kroster

[obtuse obsidian]

ceobe is a lot worse in most stuff then eyja

she have more niche usage in stacked accounts but like for average player eyja is more useful

[nimble kite]

Always. Note that 1 = 180 in convertion rate.
You literally lose nothing.

[waxen flame]

its adverse

[rain night]

Didnt knew this existed

[inland osprey]

oh yeah i kinda forgot ingkt ceobe , but shes pretty niche isn it ?

[glossy schooner]

This is why you check the shop!

[frozen echo]

yep

[urban sleet]

Barely changes anything
Your roster is more stacked than mine but I dont find the stage remotely challenging since I read enemy mechanics

[nimble kite]

S2 stun the snipers with that "buff".
Especially viable VS Exusiai.

[waxen flame]

I think this should be ok for 12-19 adverse since logos and wisadel can deal with the guys that makes civi unblockables

[frozen echo]

Where are your meta ops 😭

[urban sleet]

Yeah man thats 3x more stacked than my entire roster

[rain night]

Cool team

[obtuse obsidian]

actually best troll is to pick ops your allies want to have and not use them

[nimble kite]

Aak: E1-1.
Spuria: E1-1.
U-Official: already works at E0-1 lul.
Conviction: E1-1.

[inland osprey]

wdym those were very meta back in the days , also i just got back to the game after 3 years

[urban sleet]

Dont complain you dont have good ops, you are not playing good enough
Bengal and rainchan gave you tips, go try the stage with them

[waxen flame]

im trying but its always the megamind looking thing spawning ufos or the unblockable civis that kills me

[obtuse obsidian]

raise eyja get alpha module on mizuki and wait to see how sa pulls go assuming you pulling there

[nimble kite]

Bruh, that's awkward, Naratunya solos the top left and Gladiia solos bottom right. Both alone. And also cheap.

[rain night]

How to make wood loop enjoyable
I kinda wanna raise ulpi and ray

And maybe gladiia too

[nimble kite]

Put some music from your playlist.

[inland osprey]

ig eyja it is , wait mizuki?

[pine plover]

are you in glowstick farming cesspool?

[obtuse obsidian]

mizuki alpha is like second best specalist in IS
after broken exu

[pine plover]

[mild turtle]

is sankta miksaparato worth e2ing or no

[frozen echo]

Sentanced to be a hero English Dub on 3rd monitor

[shadow bay]

looking at ur 6 stars, seems like justify enuf to invest eyja
although u also have ceobe... u can also consider her since she have niche more valued with high end contents

[waxen flame]

yes

[rain night]

I play on mobile

[shadow bay]

random question though

why is she invested???

[inland osprey]

oh this guy , i kinda forgot why did i raise him in the first place, but hes good to use now?

[glossy schooner]

Then on a TV

[waxen flame]

ulpi?

[inland osprey]

i forgot why 😂

[urban sleet]

What bengal said, those elites should not be a problem
As for those aerial enemies,
Tragodia just deploy him somewhere safe smh

[rain night]

I'll just try listening to music and not think of the time while doing the wood loop

[glossy schooner]

They stopped playing 3 years ago, i don’t think they Have Ulpi

[obtuse obsidian]

for that one anni where she get used of course :cluefull:

[rain forge]

what skills

[shadow bay]

thats actually a reason im lookin
but if look at krooster, he doesnt have ulpi (not to mention she modless)

[glossy schooner]

I feel your sufferinf

[obtuse obsidian]

anyway i think questions like why X is invested is irrelevant in help

[inland osprey]

ill start with eyja fjrst then , been needing a good ranged caster for a while

[urban sleet]

I am no expert on grandpa but last I checked his thing is being a brick amd bricks can stay e1 max unless you are done with other priorities

[rain forge]

Can you borrow ops in icebreaker

[shadow bay]

oh well not a biggie... but atleast know why ur investing stuff... 6 star arent cheap to build yeh

[frozen echo]

his S3 is really nice, you exu2 s2 him

[nimble kite]

Aak: S2 is fine, but if that doesn't kill, it makes it harder. To ensure he will die, should be S3 (which needs E2-1).
Spuria: S2.
Conviction: S2.

[waxen flame]

How is my krooster looking? I'm thinking of replacing myrtle with the matsuki guy or sash2 and maybe buy ines selector ticket, is that a good choice?
https://krooster.com/u/sleek-tan-bee-34ii

[mild turtle]

what if icebreaker games is just april fools and instead of killing enemies you have to kill other players' operators

[rain forge]

what does uof do to troll

[tiny abyss]

Stun

[nimble kite]

7sec stun on friendlies.

[inland osprey]

well to be fair all those ops are invested way before i got off from the game 3 years ago , so yeah i guess some of them are severly outdated or just need some work or synergy to be good

[rain forge]

Will we be able to get both uof and conviction if we don’t have them

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[mild turtle]

who is uof

[urban sleet]

U-official

[nimble kite]

U-Official 1☆

[shadow bay]

yeh it is indeed... i am somehow gauging how he thinking on who to build next since he have krooster and all

if its worry some better fix it

[mild turtle]

the 1* non-robot operator?

[rain night]

I'll try to power through with the power of yoasobi , zutomayo and aimer inside my ears

[obtuse obsidian]

finishing the masteries will be my prio here
also ray e2 is good still even with lemuen

[nimble kite]

Yes, the streamer.

[tiny abyss]

Also Stainless turret with Vendela

[glossy schooner]

Yeah, she stuns EVERYONE around her

[rain forge]

[mild turtle]

then just don't deploy your ops around her

[tiny abyss]

The turrets have 6k HP

[rain forge]

can we borrow ops in icebreaker or no

[obtuse obsidian]

trolling have no meaning nowadays since the gas trucks are never coming back

[waxen flame]

oh ok

[rain forge]

[obtuse obsidian]

iirc you cant but you can borrow entire people :clueless:

[mild turtle]

can you deploy multiple of the same ops

[rain night]

That would be funny

[mild turtle]

and how many ops per player

[obtuse obsidian]

you can deploy each version like 3 chens
but exact same no

[rain forge]

Troll people by bringing e0l1 meta ops 🤫

[inland osprey]

imagining 3 chen on the field

[rain forge]

And placing them down first

[rain night]

3 (saki + her gang)

[obtuse obsidian]

you have 2 squads
main squad
sub squad

when you match both of you will have to draft the dupes in both mains and then fill squad from sub

[mild turtle]

what if i put my e0l1 sakiko bandmates for the sakiko player

[inland osprey]

the state of arknight operators right now lookin like mental ward full of patient with personality disorder

[nimble kite]

Unfortunately, if both players picked both same unit, you will have pick 1 by order which one will have it. The other person should pick other unit from Low Prio.

Yes, you will have High-Prio squad, and Low-Prio squad. Later one works if you wanna replace units occupied by your teammate.

[rain night]

Lmao

I think playing icebreaker with random would be kinda tiring

Ill try to find a partner...

[obtuse obsidian]

in normal maps matching is fine

in football is the pain

[nimble kite]

I make Autogoals more than normal Goals. 🥹

Literally the Weedy meme.

[obtuse obsidian]

deploying weedy in foot ball to get a shot but the ball get to a corner before she get her 5 sp cause idk wtf my ally is doing

[mild turtle]

oh speaking of, is she worth raising?

aw.

[obtuse obsidian]

she is niche good op

she have her moment in Ice breaker

[frozen echo]

push/pull is niche

[nimble kite]

She isn't powercreeped yet, but you draft her once if you want to push something far far away.

[obtuse obsidian]

football favor push so thats that

[mild turtle]

oh right i remember

there was this one boss that loses 1 weight when hit i think?

so some guy decided to torture the boss by putting shift units and angelina for weightless

[rain night]

How are the babel stages in terms of difficulty?

[shadow bay]

sorry thats on me deploying frds to manipulate balls asap

[nimble kite]

Like the nasty boss you don't want to fight normally.

[frozen echo]

difficulty is relative to your account

[glossy schooner]

And so that means, time to send that Krooster if you haven’t already

[gentle dove]

Yup, learnt the hard way

[obtuse obsidian]

tragedy victim

[rain night]

https://www.krooster.com/u/vansh14124

[nimble kite]

Literally the Weedy promo.

[rain night]

Eh my saki is lv60 it's lying

[frozen echo]

should be easy

[rain night]

Usually use this, I switch out canta with a laneholder usually

Trying to slowly raise ulpi,ray and gladiia in last

[frozen echo]

give lemon 20 levels

[rain night]

I think I have some lmd lying around

[frozen echo]

E2 20 is free compared to how much you spent on E2

[rain forge]

No need to raise gladiia

[urban sleet]

Why are your base slaves not raised

[frozen echo]

10 e2 ops may answer that

[urban sleet]

No it does not

Cuz they are supposed to be your priority I dont want to imagine the amount of sanity wasted on exp/lmd stages

[obtuse obsidian]

the e1 base slaves should before your first e2 (ignoring the free e2)

[eager totem]

what justifies building mumu

[urban sleet]

You like mumu

[eager totem]

not really

[urban sleet]

I meant to say thats about the only justification to build her

[boreal steeple]

Poor last knight

[worldly estuary]

Played him dirty 😔

[robust pond]

I have two phones now. What will happen if I simaltonously enter arknights in both phones and pull.

[shadow bay]

i want a vg that can stall thru bind

[slim tusk]

ines can bind for 5s how opie

[shadow bay]

she not an elf so she out

[slim tusk]

she is woman

[nimble kite]

One same acc can be entered by only one device at the time.

Should you login via new device, the previous one will immediately catch an error: "Verification expired. Please login again", and throws into Login screen.

[robust pond]

Meh it's the same as genshin

[shadow bay]

yeh sorry we cant break quantum physics shenanigans

[slim tusk]

isn't it the same on most gacha lol

[rain night]

I thought it was ulpi plus gladiia?

[robust pond]

Jokes on you. I'm determined. I'll build identical two accounts and pretend I'm pulling the same account to a fool.

[rain forge]

he doesn’t need gladiia

[rain night]

I kinda have been neglecting base a lot

[shadow bay]

ulpi is fine on his own

If hes dying plopping a medic also works

[rain night]

Hmm okay then no gladiia

[sick holly]

What 4*s are the best options for using lvl 70 training apparatus on?

[shadow bay]

ideally dps

but then again its just levels, u can use it however and ull be fine anyway

[prisma thicket]

Best combination?

[shadow bay]

esp its 4 stars, u would mostly raise utility units here like ethan or myrtle

[robust pond]

No clue use it wisely

[nimble kite]

Spec+Shift literally yells for Weedy.

[shadow bay]

seems like weedy angle

[hidden nacelle]

[prisma thicket]

Weedy good?

[shadow bay]

for her niche she is the best unit u can lean on

[prisma thicket]

Oke

[pine plover]

mostly because HG havent make a new stroker

[urban sleet]

Go work on base slaves before working on any 6 star

[shadow bay]

but then again, how can u best weedy??

something like weight ignore for pushing

[pine plover]

we also dont have any new hooker

[nimble kite]

I'm Glad(iia) than those two doesn't get powercreeped.

[pine plover]

tbh, there is really no a good way to make a better shifter

[slim tusk]

bigger shift

[shadow bay]

we still have ignoring game mechanics

[urban sleet]

Weedy but %hp

[shadow bay]

or maybe something like nightmare but actually good

[pine plover]

weedy alone has pretty big shift strength since her water cannon pretty much double it

[sick holly]

I have been wanting to build some other three/four stars for IS, which ones are useful?

I already have Myrtle Ethan and May E2 and have Spot Melantha Fang Midnight Kroos Lava and Steward maxed. I have Click and Vigna e1 lvl60, is it worth it e2ing or focus on building other ops

[potent tartan]

Just put Angelina's s2 on their shift

[rain forge]

surely we get weedy alter on cn anniv

[urban sleet]

Pinned guide in #is-station cam help with general 4 stars

[pine plover]

did you even know which angelina skill improve shift?

[urban sleet]

No its motima alter I swear

[potent tartan]

Oh
I may be stupid

[rain night]

I once got a list for base ops are these fine
castle3
steward
spot
perfumer
roberta
vermeil
frostleaf
gravel
ray
canta
pti
mutsumi
uika

Do I uh add or remove someone from here ?

[urban sleet]

Remove band 5 stars

[robust thistle]

whats ave mujica, ray, and canta doing there

just check /baseskills in #bot-spam

[carmine trout]

for base is e1 vermeil good enough?

[rain night]

I dunno someone just told me this after looking at my roster

[boreal steeple]

She's very good tho, put in lvl 3 fac

[pine plover]

4star and 3star only get base skill upgrade at e1 promotion anyway

[carmine trout]

i currently pair her with e2 fedex and noir corne

idk if that's optimal or not

[urban sleet]

Yeah remove canta too
Ptilo asw, 5 star e2 for base skill is a luxury you cant afford atm, especially when its a generic 25%

[boreal steeple]

You can put fedex in other tp and replace it with cuora if you have less workers

[rain night]

But pti is in my squad too

[carmine trout]

oh why so does she benefit more from the capacity instead?

[boreal steeple]

More like spreading efficiency

[urban sleet]

She will work fine at e1 max, ptilo e2 is either one of the last things you do or dont do at all

[carmine trout]

fed ex e2 has 4+ cap and some productivity and cuora only has 10+

[carmine trout]

ooo okay

[sick holly]

Thank you!

[boreal steeple]

You can put fedex in first or second vermeil rotation

[carmine trout]

and for my level 2 tp is e2 proviso and some generic 30% productivity good?

[rain night]

Basically my new list is
Castle3,steward,spot,perfumer,roberta,vermeil,frostleaf,gravel,ray

[boreal steeple]

Quartz has 34% btw

[carmine trout]

idt i have more than 30%

[potent tartan]

Pti should be e2 for her use case as a unit, not for base
the goal of raising base slaves is for passive generation of value
The cost of e2 someone for solely the base would take months or even a year+ to net back positive income

[urban sleet]

Just follow /baseskill in #bot-spam

[carmine trout]

e1? so the rule of thumb is just e2 proviso and anyone with highest productivity?

[rain night]

Got it

[eager totem]

whens is6 d18 dropping

[boreal steeple]

Very soon, with dlc2

[eager totem]

with which upd in cn?

[formal shadow]

buddy we just got dlc1

[carmine trout]

last question 😵‍💫 uh is jaye e1 with e1 lapp and e0 texas workable?

[urban sleet]

Last I checked you were on d4-d6 why does bro want dlc2 for new content

[boreal steeple]

Yea, its one of the highest tp eff combo, but e1 jaye is making it a bit eorse. Better if you have gnosis in tp and make karlan combo

[carmine trout]

oh e1 makes it worse? i have neither huhu

[formal shadow]

to beat d0 shuo duh!

[rain night]

I am missing so many characters from here

[boreal steeple]

E1 for that combo - yes, e1 requires karlan combo to get his efficiency

[carmine trout]

worse as in worse than e0 jaye?

[potent tartan]

Its worse if you rotate jaye optinally
If you dont though, it diesnt matter much

[boreal steeple]

In karlan combo e1 is better, if you dont lapptexas is working

[formal shadow]

jaye is slop raise glasgow instead!

[fallow hinge]

I just finished Lonetrail, does Silence alter have any usecase?

[robust thistle]

pretty sure lapptex jaye isnt pme pf the highest anymore
not to mention non E2 texas killing herself

[carmine trout]

ahhh i just have two presets for each post i rotate when the other is sleepy I don't really rotate that optimally

[formal shadow]

no

[carmine trout]

menu assistant she's cute

[urban sleet]

Silence alter crawled so that haruka could soar

[carmine trout]

not me getting lumen just for menu assistant

[nimble kite]

She's shitter than her previous version.

[shadow bay]

quercus: 🥹

[fallow hinge]

aigh hahaha, thanks! that's a brutal critique

[formal shadow]

which raise the question of why did they knock off her kneecaps after releasing quercus

[nimble kite]

I don't have any else.

[fallow hinge]

I guess I'll just save resources till Silverash and Pramanix alter banner

[nimble kite]

Wise choice.

[eager totem]

im done with dlc1
was only doing d4 for the fuckass beta module

[lethal void]

if Degenbrecher appears in the gold cert shop should i get her? this wasnt in the pin and i want a opinion

[formal shadow]

i'd wait for logos asca etc.

[urban sleet]

Kinda low prio

[boreal steeple]

Yea she's decent. But other gold certs ops are better imo

[fallow hinge]

have those two ever been in the gold cert shop?

[nimble kite]

She's not prio, so no.
Would be nice, if you get her as offrate, but do not pull or buy her voluntarily.

[urban sleet]

Welfare tax

[urban sleet]

They are about to debut

And debuts are the only somewhat predictable show-ups, repeats are completely on yostar's whims and fancies

[formal shadow]

should be there ~1-2mo after degen's debut roughly so unless you dump big on the banners there you aren't recuperating enough

[fallow hinge]

ohh that's good to know. I already have enough for one so I hope I could get enough for two.

[obtuse obsidian]

wdym tax, lessing is like top 100 6 star guards

silence have no excuse

[rain night]

Is logos in gold cert after wang banner?

[glass mango]

We don't know

[rain night]

Ok maybe no logos for me then.

[brazen gulch]

ain't no quantum physics, just something the devs didn't bother to implement

[rain night]

The quickest way to get trust is just to throw the op in base ?

[pine plover]

it will break server data storing for your account and at worst get your account data corrupted

[rain night]

I kinda need to level up saki module

Today I finally m3 her

[kindred drift]

i am new at the game and what 6 star units or 5 star units should i get?

[formal shadow]

those from beginner vouchers are outlined in pins (also including welfare ones)
nothing to pull on really right now, wait til ~1mo to pull on limited banner

[brazen gulch]

it won't if the devs make it so it won't same way you can watch youtube on two devices on the same account without the universe collapsing

[kindred drift]

okay, so that means i should just save up my pulls till the limited banner comes?

[formal shadow]

yeah

one thing I forgot: single pulls on beginner banner until you get a 6*

[kindred drift]

okay tysm!

[vivid yew]

Is there any good welfare from side story?

[pine plover]

it prones to glitching, and people will abuse those glitch to generate resources for free

[formal shadow]

tequila/kroos2/rosesalt are within "decent" range for general use

[pine plover]

it doesnt work same way as hosting service

[neon siren]

Is sankta miksa worth pre farming for?
-# assuming masses event will rerun in the future

[brazen gulch]

i mean look, i'm not saying it's easy or that they should or shouldn't do it, i just noted that it's possible because, well, it just is, many edge cases notwithstanding

[vivid yew]

Huh guess i'm finished

[neon siren]

I don't have any other 6star defenders too

[pine plover]

implementing it cost money for shit that doesnt benefit them more money

[formal shadow]

would you raise eunectes if she was your only 6* defender

[brazen gulch]

yeh, totally reasonable

[neon siren]

I mean, idk who that is lol

[floral light]

bad defender

[neon siren]

Ah

[carmine trout]

meow how good is reedalter mod

[pine plover]

it only improves her healing, which is optional for her

[carmine trout]

ah so nothing on her output?

[livid lark]

this year april fools will be arknonights?

[pine plover]

i think they purposedly didnt announce it for... surprise

[nimble kite]

Modless is fine. We still coping for her second mod.

[remote parcel]

is this game had sanity notification? like when reach max my phone telling me that its time for me to play this anime plant vs zombie?

[nimble kite]

No, sorry. Despite it has that notification settings, I didn't saw that message even once.

But probably it's my only problem.

[carmine trout]

oh btw is puzzle obtainable now? i missed him first time around

[rain night]

Same

[vivid yew]

Realistically, 10 yellow cert is more useful than operators that i will never use right?

[rain night]

Yea some FC event

[nimble kite]

Yes. ReedAlter event welfare.

[carmine trout]

okii ty

[remote parcel]

damn... someone need to make a mod when it finally release on PC

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[ancient current]

these 10 certs build up to operators you will use

[toxic oyster]

Can Cuora tank Patriot in IS5 ending 3 with 2 healers only?

[ancient current]

easily

[nimble kite]

Lowdiff sure. Highdiff - if buffed af.

[vivid yew]

Is Aak useful for anything

[silver smelt]

Not rly

[random kestrel]

he is marksmen with s1 if that interest you (without the special targetting ofc) the other skill is simply buffer

[silver smelt]

apparently hes getting some sort of healing frd mod

[nimble kite]

Killing your teammates
Can provide huge ATK and ASPD buff to tanky units. You may do it for weakly Ranged ops too, but you need Shining buff for that.

[random kestrel]

the mentioned buff is useful or not its up to you

[silver smelt]

buffer in general not that useful ya

[pseudo flume]

He's meta soon
-# in Icebreaker 🤫

[vivid yew]

Well, another bench warmer

[pine plover]

or use Barrier provider like Catherine to soak up the damage

15 times 500 physical damage

[nimble kite]

Either way build trash units to justify another trash

[silver smelt]

great so now we are using 2 units

[shadow bay]

listen listen

aak to buff liberators

[pine plover]

aak to fill SP for operator with defensive recovery

[pseudo flume]

So Hung

[pine plover]

so i can use croissant s2 twice

[random kestrel]

[pine plover]

smh, so narrow-minded

[nimble kite]

Aak S1 is solid pick tho.

[random kestrel]

using her s2 either so pro or schizo

[pseudo flume]

I don't remember anything else with defensive recovery tbh

[nimble kite]

Practically a KroosAlter, but with self-sustaining.

[pseudo flume]

Offensive recovery more common

[pine plover]

hoshi2 s1

a-sorry-excuse-of-a-knight blemishine

[pseudo flume]

I honestly forgot it existed 🚬

[vivid yew]

I used to be AH fan, after seeing Ulpian release, i feel like AH squad is better with him and Gladiia as emotional support. The rest feel awful to use due to year 1 kit

[reef sparrow]

AH is overrated to begin with

[nimble kite]

SpecAlt is still fine to use, tho.
Cheap cost, Immortality.

[vivid yew]

Limited, ain't no way i'm gonna spend 200 pulls to get her

[reef sparrow]

ulpi truly their leader, carrying his faction

[pine plover]

what people see: AH team buff
what i see: ulpianus' external modules

[pure coral]

In the process of building hool, module Y?

[pseudo flume]

Modless

[nimble kite]

May I ask why you E2 her?

[cyan venture]

is it possible to get a 6 star without top op like with 5 stars?

[pure coral]

I already have enough units to trivialize every stage, building units i like now

[nimble kite]

No.

[random kestrel]

what her module do again?
i recall her IS mod is the best one tho
despite its not top tier in IS world

[nimble kite]

Ah, you can build IS mod. It should be better than normal one.

[pure coral]

I plan to use her everywhere, but for what i see, Y is better than X no?

I will also get the is one dw

[nimble kite]

Lemme read both real quick.

[ancient wind]

Someone said I should invest into Naran and Pozy

Who is Pozy?

[pure coral]

X ignores 10 res and amps the damage to lifted
Y gives 1 sp on elite attack and inflicts arts fragility on minus 50% hp

[latent wraith]

Where do i find H stage?

[reef sparrow]

holy shit, IS mod of hool is a better modx

[vivid yew]

Pozemka? Pink sniper

[nimble kite]

Ew...
Ymod, I guess, is more versatile indeed.

[reef sparrow]

pozy depends on ur ops

[nimble kite]

If that shit can be called "versatile" tho. Still advise to Alpha Mod only.

[pulsar bison]

is this only during the event

[pure coral]

For skill, idk about s3, 60 sp makes me want to cry

[random kestrel]

took the Y one
x mod being restricted to certain enemies make it worth less

[reef sparrow]

adverse I think

[nimble kite]

Permanent.

[ancient wind]

Ah, ok, it’s Pozemka

[nimble kite]

You need to clear Simulations in Adverse Mode. And they should be in very right.

[tawny turret]

guys, can someone help if this is recommended in CC too. In the base combo guide, sakiko team isn't there so im not sure if the guide is just outdated:

[latent wraith]

Thanks

[obtuse obsidian]

if you did enough challenge mode you will find it near the end of the map

[reef sparrow]

avemuji cc is in the "special" tab of base combo guides and ye just use them if you don't have any better

[random kestrel]

look like another R6 CC base thing to me

[reef sparrow]

hey they provide stats better than r6s

[random kestrel]

which is idk... look shit to me

[brisk ice]

hello! horn's X module reads "Increases ATK to 110% when attacking blocked enemies". does this mean when horn melee attacks enemies she is blocking? or does it apply to enemies being blocked by any operator e.g. another defender whilst horn attacks from range?

[random kestrel]

base nerd players should answer better than me tho

[pine plover]

yes and yes

[obtuse obsidian]

any enemy blocked will take the bonus damage

[brisk ice]

ah! that is good news. thank you!

[odd sky]

which guide? the sheet is updated until cn

[reef sparrow]

while not the best in cc comp, they still provide decent bonuses so you wanna just use them if no alternatives

[tawny turret]

is okay, i saw the special tab in the google sheet, i dont usually browse that. but already found the answer

[karmic urchin]

how do I get the robots? they are so hard to recruit

[odd sky]

3hr 50m only

[nimble kite]

3:50 on Recruitment and pray.

[random kestrel]

well certain robots easier to get

[vivid yew]

150 pulls should be safe enough to get either SA or Pram?

[nimble kite]

But 150 is the decent amount.

[round charm]

Who to pick

[random kestrel]

no idea
i just say the followed rule 300 pulls

[obtuse obsidian]

150 almost always will get you one of the 2

both need some luck in 150

[lofty dragon]

mountain

[round charm]

Ok

[potent tartan]

bruh

[lofty dragon]

immuine to power creep

[nimble kite]

SilverAsh

[potent tartan]

Have you read the pins for beginner guide yet?
Pick one after reading up on that

[nimble kite]

He's dead year ago or more, bruh.

[potent tartan]

But the usual answer is SA

[lofty dragon]

pick mountain you thank me later if you are in the end game

we will have silver ash alter later you can just get that

[opaque remnant]

follow the pins, personal opinions should not be subject to this

[spare tide]

Is the upcoming joint banner worth it if you only aiming for the... Uh the non permanent sniper from Pepe banner or dtay saving for Pramalter?

[obtuse obsidian]

what the hell does mountain do in end game?

getting out classed by vgs?

[round charm]

Ok

[lofty dragon]

afk

[obtuse obsidian]

bro his afk kinda sucks

[nimble kite]

You save for PramaAlter, because this banner is trash.
It has Hool.

[spare tide]

Got it

[spare tide]

How long until her banner btw?

[nimble kite]

Stay tuned

[obtuse obsidian]

we dont know exactly but its very soon

[spare tide]

If we follow CN but ok

[pure coral]

Hoping for hool alter

[obtuse obsidian]

they will make that worse then og hool somehow

[surreal python]

💀

[lofty dragon]

what?

[nimble kite]

Shhhhshhhhh, Rule 3.

Despite it was a bad advise, keep it civil.

[lofty dragon]

you cant get mountain in standart banner he is only on kernel if you are looking to future proof your account by afking then get mountain

[boreal steeple]

Others are also kernel

[lofty dragon]

???

[nimble kite]

You know that Mountain is in Kernel, right?

[boreal steeple]

Newbie selector is all kernel, and everyone from there recruitable

[steep pivot]

what the best option if I already got thorns ?

[lofty dragon]

what did i just read

[nimble kite]

Supporter for Suzu gamba

[spare tide]

TO sniper for Exu gamba

[boreal steeple]

Exu is dead

[nimble kite]

You know she's washed and won't considered to build at all?

[spare tide]

Just saying that's the chance

[odd sky]

defense for thorns :ggnod:

[potent tartan]

There is like
A million things you can do better than worry about afk clearing stages
Auto deploys exist for farming stages
And hard stages aint going to see a night and day difference just from a Mountain S2

[nimble kite]

Like, thx, but next time, advise useful ops, plz.

[urban sleet]

Yeah man 25% for one specific op in a rainbow bag

[spare tide]

Wait who else in sniper TO tag?

[thin torrent]

Ill still be able to get the medal and the mission rewards even the event is over right?

[boreal steeple]

Archetto offrec IS niche

[obtuse obsidian]

hey she can be used to prefarm exu trust and then pull off banner exu alter

[urban sleet]

Futureproofing your account by getting afk ops is something I never thought I would read

[spare tide]

Yeah suzu seems better

[nimble kite]

Schwarz, Rosa, Chetto.
Latest one is viable in IS.

I could also shill Rosa, despite everyone hates her.

[obtuse obsidian]

we can shill her together
i have not used her for few years but am ready to shill

[odd sky]

no one hates rosa, just bad

[random kestrel]

i wil follow previous schwarz shiller

[obtuse obsidian]

ngl chetto gamba aint bad for new IS nerds
better then most top ops lmao

[reef sparrow]

+13% atk for sniper just being in squad

[vital kelp]

Rosa is the best ursus 6 star besieger

[urban sleet]

And pozy is the best heavyshooter

[nimble kite]

If she can deploy writing machine. Otherwise Schwarz wins.

[lofty dragon]

mountain is still better for lane holding as you don't need any extra medic you can probably look at kyo guides mountain is used way more than sa

[shadow bay]

i do see two big reasons why

[urban sleet]

Typewriter alone outdamages schwarz last I checked in 2022

[vital kelp]

Chat is this true, mountain > sash

[random kestrel]

if can deploy it correctly
something that i never see on typewritter shill

[nimble kite]

Are you stuck on older guides, or what?

[potent tartan]

Cause Mountain is like the most nice to have operator ever
He doesnt change the game for a new player compared to having a nuke button that also reveals invinsibility

[echo oasis]

Coming back to AK to pull lemon

[pseudo flume]

Mountain is washed for new content

[nimble kite]

Too late, should come in October. F.

[urban sleet]

Mountain can only kill trash mobs these days, whicb even my 4 star brotato humus can do asw

Kyo uses mountain in afk guides for same reason, killing trash mobs

[echo oasis]

Sash2 is skippable, right?

[nimble kite]

No, you will pull for PramaAlter.

[urban sleet]

Do you not want pram2

[thin torrent]

So i don't need to fully clear stage 16 right? Still too hard.

Only clear the shop?

[echo oasis]

Someone told me pram2 is worse than sash2 or smth

[pseudo flume]

Ya, if you want Wang or MonHun Collab stuff

[urban sleet]

You can block that person

[obtuse obsidian]

SA him self look like a nerd pick so you can skip if you are not nerding

pram is general good caster

[median fable]

it's a 49/51 situation, I can see reasons for both. It all depends on context

[pseudo flume]

Requires context

[random kestrel]

everyone is skipable if that what you ask
it just happen he is one of highest value in future banners

[echo oasis]

Should I just show my team?

[lofty dragon]

is e2 easier these days than it used to before? i have no idea if you can instantly e2 sa then sure

[potent tartan]

yeah just clear the shop, and get as far inti ch16 as you can

[echo oasis]

I haven't played for months

[median fable]

yeah, no one is a must pull in this game
but skipping pram2/sash2 is kinda meh since the other banners are just trash (except Wang/Chen3)

[obtuse obsidian]

pull for pram at least

[pseudo flume]

Good team tbh

[reef sparrow]

nearl user in 2026

[obtuse obsidian]

pull pram save for wang nonsense and whatever after that

[urban sleet]

More meta roster than mine

[echo oasis]

My only other option is Miksa

[nimble kite]

More like, one month? I see Sakichan.
Squad is also decent.

[pseudo flume]

Nearl is still good for a 5★

[echo oasis]

Pulled and dipped

[reef sparrow]

hey if old dude is raised then he's better

[echo oasis]

Bruh what, people told me otherwise

[pseudo flume]

Don't raise him

[obtuse obsidian]

i still use her for medic defender

ancient relic here btw :clueless:

[echo oasis]

They're both on the same level

[potent tartan]

the question you should be asking for a new player is if mountain S2 is easier to replace than SA S3
and the answer is absolutely yes

[pseudo flume]

Use Nearl

[echo oasis]

I have E1L40 Mountain too btw

[reef sparrow]

ye how about drop your krooster now

[pseudo flume]

She's cheaper and does the job enough

[random kestrel]

me too btw

[opaque remnant]

doesn't look bad, but where is mlynar mod-

[potent tartan]

And e2ing your first 6 star OP only takes about a month if youre slow

[echo oasis]

I'm in chapter 5-

[vital kelp]

Like 3 days if ur quick

[obtuse obsidian]

mountain will get 1v1d by average elite but people will shill him cause kyo used him in an afk guide to kill 4 dogs
not even chapter 11 dogs just casual ones

[reef sparrow]

damn and you have 7 6* e2 now

[pseudo flume]

Team is overkill then

[echo oasis]

Was in chapter 3 with this team

[reef sparrow]

holy

[pseudo flume]

Yep definitely overkill

[obtuse obsidian]

bro murdered skullshatterer

[reef sparrow]

as how the story should be

[urban sleet]

Using afk guides as your standard for ops usage is where you went down the wrong path in the first place and believing that obtaining afk ops futureproofs your account is tbe second

[median fable]

outside of cn beta we got no other news of pc client, right?

[formal shadow]

yeah

[obtuse obsidian]

button allergic mfs

time to shill miz s1 button allergy

[urban sleet]

Yup none

[vital kelp]

Me when I m9 trag just cuz trag s1 use in arks

[nimble kite]

Nope. The same for EN, not even a small datamine.

[median fable]

pretty sure many times they just use s2 for the extra aspd lol

[echo oasis]

I have an E2L80 Tequila with skill level 7 too btw

[vital kelp]

Also xiaoran doesn’t even use mountain anymore

[surreal sphinx]

what does "afk" operator even mean?

[urban sleet]

Why is that squad still in ch 5 smh, play story more, its dead days rn

[median fable]

use it over surtr btw

[lofty dragon]

and my answer to that is just e2 mrytle and borrow W isadel if i wanted to make a new account right now mountain is my first choice as i dont need to spend resources in the kernel banner just to get a good lane holder for trashmobs in the future

[brazen gulch]

deploy and forget

[urban sleet]

E2 myrtle

[cyan venture]

logos mod y or the other one

[echo oasis]

I picked surtr cuz I needed smth to block/play pseudovanguard

[reef sparrow]

not this e2 myrtle again

[nimble kite]

Delta (Pen), Lv3.

[surreal sphinx]

as in also having automatic skill?

[echo oasis]

What are the current banners

[potent tartan]

but why would you need a lane holder if youre borrowing a friend support as a new player
theres like a billion ops you can borrow that solo stages better than mountain

[brazen gulch]

typically. usually unlimited duration stuff like haruka s2 also counts

[echo oasis]

I'm waiting for Logos in cert shop with +250 gold certs

[nimble kite]

The PramaAlter S2 indeed auto-activation.

[urban sleet]

You can cert 2 more ops by the time logos arrives

[lofty dragon]

yes

[potent tartan]

and again, laneholding trash mobs is an easy job that is super replaceable

[formal shadow]

wait another 6mo

[lofty dragon]

give me an example

[surreal sphinx]

I dont know those ops as I am new. Was just wondering on what afk means. Is removing ops from the field a norm in later stages?

[urban sleet]

Even frostleaf can hold trash mobs (well earlygame)

[formal shadow]

hoshi2

[jade mantle]

is lemuen worth pulling for on this joint banner

[pseudo flume]

Logos

[potent tartan]

Freaking Narantuya S1
Heck, Radian and all summoners in general

[lofty dragon]

as a new player?

[tribal root]

any1 i should raise?

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/trusty-lime-yak-398y

[urban sleet]

Odds to get lemuen in a rainbow bag is 25%
Too low
Also pram2 banner incoming

[nimble kite]

AFK is at general means a strategy that implies an starting unit deployment and pressing some skills before they become Unlimited Duration.

So the second part of stage you just go completely AFK, winning by doing absolutely nothing.

[pseudo flume]

The context was borrow no?

[jade mantle]

is pram2 more significant than SA alter

[urban sleet]

If you are a casual pram2 is your higher priority
Cuz sa2 shines in hard content

[pseudo flume]

For the casuals yes ig

[formal shadow]

baseslaves (in #r-i-i-c pins)
otherwise you're fine

[tribal root]

thanks

[rain forge]

Does sa2 s1 see usage in IS or does s2 and s3 dominate

[potent tartan]

You keep saying "for a new player"
Why wouldnt a new player have access to a narantuya friend support?

[jade mantle]

do people need narantuya in friend support, i barely see her at all, i can put it up

[urban sleet]

A new player can also do with a sl7 support by refreshing for strangers, no need to hunt someone from #friend-id

[brazen gulch]

not really, more common for me in Integrated Strategies but usually formations don't change on the fly

[raven ermine]

Is tuya even drafted tho
Especially as a starter

[potent tartan]

Narantuya us nice to have for easy stages cause of her s1 and range. Itd help a bit for some peeps

[jade mantle]

...i just went for wisadel straight

[potent tartan]

Theres like a million other wis tho

[median fable]

right now? Nope

[jade mantle]

yeah, why are you struggling, i thought there was a specific use case you needed narantuya for, if you just need strong units, there are many

[potent trellis]

Does Yu need a Module or nah?

[median fable]

his mod is in like 4 months, probably will be mod1 but we still need to do the proper calcs

[raven ermine]

Yeah didn't feel like a decent draft

[surreal sphinx]

so far until stage 3 I have just been building blobs of operators tightly packed at choke points under a healer's range as it seems the most effective thing to do so far, yet tutorials keep telling me to send individual ops to random places to intercept enemies. How viable is it since that OP will die without healing? I am trying to diverge from blob strat to learn more on how the game works since I dont think blobs will work forever

[potent trellis]

Ah mb i thought he got one already 💀

[median fable]

maybe mod2 now that I'm reading it

[potent trellis]

Aight will save some mats

[brazen gulch]

this is called helidropping an operator and is not the default strategy (but viable in the right circumstances, yes)

[formal shadow]

ignore them and continue #chokepointmaxxing

[odd sky]

very lappalt yu pilled

[urban sleet]

You drop that operator far off to intercept a particular annoying enemy, off it there and retreat the operator before they die (hald dp cost refund on retreat)

Rn tutorial teaches you to use melantha but later on you can obtain ops with skills with good initial sp/fast redeploys to activate skills right when you deploy them, its called helidropping

[surreal sphinx]

the only operator I have been using sparingly so far is gravel, but shes more of like a "oh shit" button more than a strategic thinking

[urban sleet]

Gravel is used as bait

And maybe few secs of stall

[lofty dragon]

we have our very own preferance and opinion i dont wanna go back and forth all i wanted is to say mountain still can be used in the very late stages as a trash mod lane holder.

i dont know about you but if i were a new player that has reach the end game but still doesnt have mountain to follow afk stages guides because top operator tag didnt give mountain it. ill be pretty mad if i choose sa when the game give me option to pick in the early game

[surreal sphinx]

how do you define "bait" ? diverting aggro for a few seconds?

[nimble kite]

Yes. That includes a skill that may oneshot or disable an valuable operator.

Like Sarkaz Casters from Ep4.

[raven ermine]

Why are "afk stage guide" a consideration in the first place ?
If you like afk that's another point entirely
Afk doesn't make an operator more valuable than one that would function better if you clicked one button

[urban sleet]

No you won't, afk-ing is not some endgame stuff
Saying a 6 star can see use in hard stages just to hold trash mob lane which even a 4 star can do is copium

[surreal sphinx]

not far enough yet where any particular enemy posed a threat more than being tankier/ doing more dmg

[urban sleet]

Ppl will really shill and raise outdated/bad operators and skills just to not play the game more, not to mention do all this while following a guide

[lofty dragon]

what 4 star can do lane holding in the late stages that doesnt require addition operator to use?

[surreal sphinx]

just that so far its always deploy lane holders > put a healer on them > put ranged if stage has air enemies > put casters and my strategy hasnt really diverged much from that and I want to learn other ways to play

[nimble kite]

Ummm, Lutonada? Jaye?

[urban sleet]

Nice of you to remove the 'trash mob' part
And humus can do that very weil

[lofty dragon]

just add trash mods there as i can miss word sometimes

[opaque remnant]

a good thing to do is to always put defenders last in most cases

[raven ermine]

You're deploying in the wrong order then, it'll be an issue at some point
The way you're deploying right now will make your ranged units/medics take aggro over your ground ops

[potent tartan]

oh im not struggling
i was just bringing up Narantuya in an argument to make a point
And then also just saying how convenient she is to use to carry easier stages

[surreal sphinx]

I dont even have a defender in my default loadout currently

[urban sleet]

No cuora/spot?

[opaque remnant]

they're always good to have in a loadout

[brazen gulch]

early game do be like that, treat it as an introduction. rest assured later on the game will be presenting more and more mechanics/gimmicks for you to take care of

[surreal sphinx]

I usually just have enough melees to do lane holding and not more

so I rarely have a melee available after holding lanes

[raven ermine]

You'll have to adjust at some point, but as long as it works for you, that's fine

Just be aware that the last operator deployed take aggro first, we get that one a lot here

[opaque remnant]

it will work to a certain extent, though the prio will shift later on

[opaque remnant]

unless you have someone like mlynar

[urban sleet]

All those people who struggle at 7-14 despite having an overkill roster

[surreal sphinx]

I have a hard time dropping any of these, except maybe matra or one of the healers. Idk where I would fit a defender

[gleaming timber]

just use crownslayer, she solos

[nimble kite]

Matoimaru

[opaque remnant]

tequila needs at least e1

[potent tartan]

Im surprised people dont realise the last deploy targetting thing by 7-14, when mephisto was already punishing you for doing that in chapter like 5 or 6

[surreal sphinx]

work in progress

[nimble kite]

Also Meteor doesn't cook shit. Better to replace by KroosAlter 5☆.

[urban sleet]

Use kroos alter instead of meteor btw, she's free unit from 'Invitiation to Wine' sidestory

[surreal sphinx]

I dont have a better laneholder. Unless a 3 or 2* is better

[raven ermine]

matoi isn't great, meteor too
You could replace matoi with noir corne, he's cheap
And krooster instead of meteor yeah

[raven ermine]

Yes, noir or spot would be better than matoi

[nimble kite]

She isn't a laneholder, she's helidrop.

I see Specter - that is the real laneholder. If you want a helidrop, Melantha 3☆ at early stages is enough.

[fading saddle]

Executor2 Mod X or Y?

[raven ermine]

modx3

[urban sleet]

There's also the regular 12-19 where ppl apparwntly never managed to read what the one elite does (who makes unidentified civs unblockable)

[nimble kite]

X, Lv3 and forget he has different one.

Unless you into his S2.

Which I highly doubt.

[surreal sphinx]

yeah, specter is great but she only holds down 1 lane

[formal shadow]

and matoi holds 2?

[opaque remnant]

but she hits 3 enemies?

[surreal sphinx]

but I will look into replacing matoi with noir

[nimble kite]

Put a defender like Cuora/Gummy/Spot, and make Specter stay one tile ahead, looking at defender. That way, she will hit both lanes.

[surreal sphinx]

I have cuora. Will level her then and replace matoi

[formal shadow]

2 before e2 mind you

[opaque remnant]

his is at e2

[formal shadow]

gah

[raven ermine]

If you didn't already, check #bot-spam /base and /baseskills too
Spot is a good candidate fill a slot in your squad, and need e1 for base
It's important to invest in base early on, so look into that

[nimble kite]

All Dreadnoughts are ass due to Block 1 always.

She ain't a exception.

[raven ermine]

They said "one lane"
Not blockcount

[surreal sphinx]

base has been a doozy for me so far. Most of the recommended ops I dont have

[formal shadow]

its meant to be satirical

[nimble kite]

She's more "kill that one guy over here".

[surreal sphinx]

good, then I just misunderstood her role

[boreal steeple]

More used ≠ actually useful. You don't need mountain in most of content, especially for a newbie

[surreal sphinx]

I usually just put her behind myrtle so whatever gets past her gets sliced

[raven ermine]

You'll get there in time, just make sure the ones you have are raised enough to get their base skills and fill what you can for now
Even an operator without corresponding base skill can work in a facility and they'll have an innate bonus for the facility being filled

[urban sleet]

That conversation ended man

[potent tartan]

Thats normal for a new player until theyve rolled some more
You kinda just have to live with it for now since there arent any good banners

[opaque remnant]

just leave myrtle in a corner and retreat her once she prints enough DP, you don't need to have her on field all time

[karmic pivot]

is the joint operation banner worth pulling

[formal shadow]

bait

[boreal steeple]

I'm just surprised how brainwashed player can be in this chat

[opaque remnant]

sa2 and pram2 banner is next, and the only worth op is basically lem

[nimble kite]

Ass. Hool is here.

[surreal sphinx]

shes the first I deploy to hold first lane and immediately gets doubled up with another melee. I retreat her after unit slots are full

[formal shadow]

but but but is6ed5

[nimble kite]

Also unnecessary media, Rule 4.

[surreal sphinx]

tho that is starting to work less and less as she starts to get one shot

[urban sleet]

Yeah but they dipped already, dont dig up cold corpses

[boreal steeple]

Other options exist too, you dont wanna pull just for that

[limpid galleon]

https://www.krooster.com/u/duggy is there any units i should focus on rn?

[opaque remnant]

well that works for now, though I would remind you that myrtle isn't good at defending so you should ideally have someone else to lanehold

[raven ermine]

Don't use myrtle to hold anything
It can work in a pinch for like a dog or so, but that's definitely not her role

[potent tartan]

You will sometimes need to deploy Myrtle 3rd or even later just to stabilise the early phase
But yeah, just keep doing what youre doing

[urban sleet]

E2 ptilopsis but skill level not 7

[formal shadow]

leizi2 proviso baseslaves

[opaque remnant]

is that a mastery myrtle

[boreal steeple]

Leizi alter asap s2 main skill, executor alter maybe, proviso e2 for base, and base slaves

[limpid galleon]

oh lmao forgotten she was not at lvl 7 lmao

[karmic pivot]

mb all

[raven ermine]

Your baseslaves
#bot-spam /base and /baseskills
Then raise leizi2

[urban sleet]

My gut feeling was righr, no base slaves raised either, check /baseskill in #bot-spam

[raven ermine]

and e1 saria ig

[urban sleet]

Mountain sl5 as well

If you are investing in them for combat atleast raise their skills to lvl7

[limpid galleon]

oh yea im slowly making sure all that i use are at lvl7

[potent tartan]

tbf it could just be a mat that they havent unlocked a good stage to farm

[raven ermine]

Better to just make sure they get that sl7 is a big deal, it's a frequent occurrence here

[urban sleet]

• leveled and promoted but skill level lacking
• base slaves untouched
  These 2 are pretty common like mayuhiko said, better to make sure

[surreal sphinx]

also, I have a very hard time actually using tequilla. How are you supposed to use him? He is unusable when immediately deployed. Does he just reward better foresight planning?

[opaque remnant]

you first need to e1 him

[urban sleet]

newbies continuing to prove light's point

[surreal sphinx]

what changes?

[opaque remnant]

he gains his S2, his actually useful skill

[urban sleet]

His main skill is s2

[slender temple]

Use his skill when there's enemies, and he'll kill things

[opaque remnant]

don't even bother using his S1

[potent tartan]

kind of
drop him when theres a lull in the stage and activate him when the mob gets big
his 0 block is actually a boon if you use him well

[raven ermine]

Yes kinda
You drop him, he does nothing and just spend time raising his atk stat without blocking anything
When a troublesome enemy/wave is coming in, you click his skill and he handles it
But as they said, teq e1 is important

[wanton meadow]

Basically just drop him a bit ahead of time but after your ranged units so he gets aggro over them, wait for his skill to turn red, press to kill dangerous enemies

[raven ermine]

If you didn't already, read what liberator's trait is

[stray gust]

assuming my only 6* sniper left unraised is pozy and fartooth, I can convert all my excess sniper dualchip to caster right?

[pure coral]

Question, Hool s1 (attacking with the actual skill) with mod Y, does it still give 1 sp on elite or boss?

[urban sleet]

Reading goes a long way in not just this game but life as well

[wanton meadow]

Tequila is so so so so useful for new players, he carried a lot of fights i wouldn't have been able to do when i started my account

[opaque remnant]

a mini mlynar is always good to have

[surreal sphinx]

hes usually expensive enough for me to click a different option and usually I need to deploy something with immediate effect to not die on the spot. I rarely have enough spare DP to get him on board

[urban sleet]

Well its technically a sanity loss but sure ig

[wanton meadow]

He doesn't just do damage, he's pretty significantly tanky so he's a useful ranged attack bait

[raven ermine]

I wouldn't
Converting chips is a straight loss, just farm for more

[lament loom]

Who

[slender temple]

Expensive? Isn't he 12 dp or something

[surreal sphinx]

tequilla

[slim tusk]

liberator is like cheap af dp wise so if you have dp trouble uh

[lament loom]

Liberator is cheap tho

[opaque remnant]

print more DP with myrtle

[wanton meadow]

10dp at max pot

[stray gust]

expensive in the sense of raising the ops to say e1 60 or e2 1 I guess

[wanton meadow]

13 at no pots

[slender temple]

Oh yeah I'm just used to Mlynar cost

[raven ermine]

He's cheap but i understand your point, he won't do anything for you right away
Deploy and stabilize the stage first, then drop tequila

[wanton meadow]

I remember when I started during ave mujica event and he was my go to priority target killer for sure, anything that needs to be dead asap

[lament loom]

Either that or helidrop immediately to clear the way then set up safely from there (I think)

[potent tartan]

That shouldnt be normal, with good enough units and deploy order
This is why deploying Myrtle early doesnt always pan out btw

[surreal sphinx]

so far by the time the stage stabilizes theres max 10 enemies left. 90% stages are life or death every second for me. I dont dislike that, but I rarely feel like I have time for tequilla

[opaque remnant]

he'll do well once you face against tougher enemies

[wanton meadow]

Tequila also helps stabilize lanes with tons of strong enemies cos he'll help draw ranged aggro when deployed last, so your blocker doesn't get mogged

[stray gust]

that is very interesting take, because for some of the general or IS stages deploying mlynar is actually more viable if you are facing difficult rush.

[raven ermine]

Usually elites/bosses won't be an immediate threat in the stage, they'll come around the midway/late point of it
If you drop like fang/noir, then a medic and a sniper, you should be stabilized already, or close to it

[surreal sphinx]

then I guess its just an early stage thing where the difficulty comes from managing multiple lanes with weaker enemies and you have to deploy wider as opposed to stronger. At least thats how I feel

[potent tartan]

There are some stages where there are like one or two magical squares that can also just lane hold the early map sometimes

[lament loom]

Oh so instead of having enemies funnel into a kill zone, you struggle to handle multi-lanes?

[wanton meadow]

Idk, for me personally I've seen tequila start benefit me as early as around ch3 with skull shatterer and sarkaz centurion

[surreal sphinx]

when the lanes dont really funnel, thats my issue

[potent tartan]

In those cases then yeah it becomes an issue

[lament loom]

Hmmm interesting. Are they constantly throwing enemies in multi lanes or just periodically?

[raven ermine]

It will be easier with spot and noir, they're both good at holding for cheap early on with a little bit of support from someone like kroos
Specter will handle a lane on her own too

[surreal sphinx]

so far its like 1 in 4 stages. I beat them, but without tequilla

[wanton meadow]

That's cos tequila is not for rush maps, he's there to handle strong elites and bosses

[runic willow]

Do you have motsuki(?)? He can print dp while also hold a lane somewhat if you don't have ines

[slender temple]

Matsukiri

[lament loom]

Matsukiri

[runic willow]

Got the initial letter right

[stray gust]

I am guessing my caster raise order should be mantra > pram2 when released > carnelian > eben > hool > indigo/haze > god?

[lament loom]

Whos god

Logos?

[potent tartan]

Still though, just keep going for now
Fang + Kroos plus a 2nd laneholder should be good enough for a lot of maps. Youll start appeciating Teq more when you start facing bosses or elites with big Def or HP

[wanton meadow]

What are carnelian, ebenholz, and hool doing there

[marble viper]

god hmm

[reef sparrow]

Passenjesus I presume

[nimble kite]

Passenger. This is his codename.

[stray gust]

there is only one true god in AK

[lament loom]

Passenger oh

[opaque remnant]

why not pram2 over mantra

[raven ermine]

Pram > mantra > hool if you play IS > indigo if you play IS > passenger if you play RA > eben > the rest

[stray gust]

pram2 isn't released yet?

[wanton meadow]

If he has mantra rn why not build her now

[opaque remnant]

oh, they mean that

[rocky pilot]

How good are the sui siblings from best to worst?

[lament loom]

Shu my beloved

[marble viper]

shuuu yess

[stray gust]

lack of dualchip, I barely have 10

[raven ermine]

Wang > shu > yu > nian > the rest

[nimble kite]

Wang > Shu > Yu > Ling > Nian > Dusk.

[balmy panther]

this is chungus erasure

[wanton meadow]

Poor chongus

[ancient lintel]

Wang murks everyone
Shu is still great
Yu for torch wood
Nian if you want a better brick than hoshi
Ling if ur brain is big enuf
And everyone else is just whatever

[stray gust]

wait for shuo the chongyue alter

[nimble kite]

Always forget about him.
Wang > Shu > Yu > Chong > Ling > Nian > Dusk.

[potent tartan]

Oh is this how i find out Leizi isnt a Suibling

[opaque remnant]

does nian survive just because she's a defender

[raven ermine]

Because she's the best phys brick yes

[wanton meadow]

Insane def numbers

[raven ermine]

Everything else here is kinda whatever

[ancient lintel]

Nian is the definition of "the wall"

[wanton meadow]

Wasn't it smth like 2.2k def off skill on a maxed nian

[balmy panther]

nothing like the good old shining + skalter + nian vs the cc4 golems

[lament loom]

Unstoppable force meets immovable object stuff

[balmy panther]

no lol
offskill shes like 1.3k

[raven ermine]

Definitely not offskill numbers lol
Idk about on skill, but offskill it's like 1.3 ish k def

[surreal sphinx]

this stage in particular took me the longest. In the end I had to learn that pusher is really OP on this stage, but untill then it was pretty hard to figure out

[balmy panther]

2.2k is the s2m3 value

[opaque remnant]

so she's tankier than even base hoshi?

[nimble kite]

S2 Hoshi has like 1.5k or sum.

[potent tartan]

idk bro i dont read

[balmy panther]

thats cuora

[raven ermine]

On skill yes

[wanton meadow]

Whoops mb got stuff mixed around

[boreal steeple]

After pram2 you can skip other part

[lament loom]

Stage is basically guards and vanguards right?

Or support and guards chip stage

[ancient lintel]

Eh there's a lot of solution for this, for example instead of pushers you can just slap a bunch of centurions on it, but u work with what u have I guess

[surreal sphinx]

chip stage

[raven ermine]

not raising indigo smh

[urban sleet]

If you see holes in a stage, chnces are pushers/pullers can cook

[boreal steeple]

All are nice(i love jie)

[balmy panther]

nian has higher base defense than hoshi
both get the def+20%
hoshi has s2 with +30%?
and then the talent with +11%?

while nian has the +21% talent

[nimble kite]

21% one is only HP one.

[lament loom]

It seems like guards specialist chip stage

[balmy panther]

nono
the 7% atk and def buff per shield consumed

[surreal sphinx]

thats the only time I ever adjusted my lineup since the start

[lament loom]

I should check first tbh

[raven ermine]

Hoshi talent is 6% without pots, 8 with

[balmy panther]

im talking with mod3

[stray gust]

wait is dualchip the crafted version or uncrafted version?

[surreal sphinx]

it is. first one

[wanton meadow]

SoonTM

[balmy panther]

look at the other mod

[raven ermine]

Oh yeah mb

[nimble kite]

Then 16% HP instead, because wrong mod.

[remote parcel]

which mantra best skill?

[lament loom]

Ohso u use ops accordingly then lol

[balmy panther]

im not counting the HP yet (which gives nian like 700 more hp or smt, including higher base)
i was talking only defense

[wanton meadow]

My resources are so cooked for the next 6+ months or so

[balmy panther]

arent we all

[opaque remnant]

back to back events?

[raven ermine]

And wait for the 6 next months after that, i'm predicting the good old banger after banger each banner

[nimble kite]

Damn, that cocaine bear really makes us to debate about bricks in AK.

In the very 2026 btw.

[brazen gulch]

i look at my old income recordings and i wanna do something to myself for not dealing with the base earlier

[opaque remnant]

your brick is either ulpian S2 or a traditional defender

[pine plover]

man, can not have a dogshit limited banner for once to skip

[balmy panther]

you wont skip any limited banner

[raven ermine]

What about fomo

[balmy panther]

people still didnt skip the mumu x hool banner, and that has been the absolute worst limited banner to date

[pine plover]

at least im skipping the paid pull

[wanton meadow]

Tinfoil hat i think 16-12 is meant to teach casuals how stalling is important

[opaque remnant]

isn't 16-16 the boss reading stage

[brazen gulch]

i'd pull

[balmy panther]

no thats just returning to the basics, the actual stall check is the H16-2 with turbo cocaine bear

[limpid galleon]

quick question for these base units they just need to be lvled up and that is it right not there skills and such?

[potent tartan]

lvl to e1
thats it

[wanton meadow]

I'm literally stuck there rn lmao

[opaque remnant]

skills don't matter for most of them

[potent tartan]

nothing more beyond e1 lvl1

[nimble kite]

4☆ and below - E1
5☆ and above - E2

[wanton meadow]

Hence why I'm building my stunners and binders

[limpid galleon]

gotcha will do

[clear hollow]

What is the best stage to farm Incadescent Alloy?

[opaque remnant]

Ray appreciation

[potent tartan]

The faster you can reduce the rage bar (aka just deal dmg), or the longer you can keep your defense upped, the less threatening the bear is
He doesnt do anything once hes off rage

[lunar apex]

check roadless camelot in pins

[raven ermine]

16-14 if all you care about is t3 alloy
Refer to /material in #bot-spam if you want the best sanity efficiency, including sidedrops

[clear hollow]

Thx

[wanton meadow]

I literally don't have a proper brick built and i want to wait for a 4* e2 ticket for cuora

Surely we get upgrade packs on sash2 event right?

[opaque remnant]

wasn't there one for the mujica event

you joined during that right

[potent tartan]

Could also just borrow a brick

[wanton meadow]

🙂

[opaque remnant]

something tells me i've staggered my account progression for too long...

[wanton meadow]

https://www.krooster.com/u/gvm idk man my account isn't exactly well fleshed out but i do build my ops

[bronze swallow]

any recommendations which 3 ops I should prioritize?

[opaque remnant]

more built than mine and I joined during leizi2

[boreal steeple]

Also can we stack talent with roberta?

[raven ermine]

Without context, surtr qb ng i guess

[opaque remnant]

can I honestly say none, also use krooster

[wanton meadow]

Susge i don't believe you

[bronze swallow]

aight I'll try it out

[urban sleet]

If you want to stretch it a lot, mosti crownslayer and blaze2 asw

[wanton meadow]

Oh speaking of crownslayer I'm so building her when the event reruns

[potent tartan]

joined in ave mujica
member since 2022

sus

[opaque remnant]

I haven't finished the main chapters and it's still at EP6

[raven ermine]

Seeing that amount of unraised 6* makes me believe you have an issue with base btw, so maybe look into that

[jolly moth]

does anybody here has ling?

[wanton meadow]

I lost my account after a hiatus since then and restarted during ave mujica

[urban sleet]

Can we know the reason, we could offer alternatives

[potent tartan]

I guess you just spammed IS and did all the annihilations then

[urban sleet]

Also searching by ling as filter in #friend-id works too

[wanton meadow]

Also grinded RA out

[boreal steeple]

No fr

[potent tartan]

Yeah thatd do it
Im too lazy to do that 🥀

[opaque remnant]

yeah, makes sense why there's more progress

[wanton meadow]

Honestly idt i grinded that much IS tho, I'm kept up with IS6 BP but I'm only lvl30 smth for IS2 and IS5, haven't touched other IS

[urban sleet]

Gl grinding out is2 and is3

[wanton meadow]

IS2 is p fun ngl

[boreal steeple]

Is2 is boring

[wanton meadow]

I actually like how the maps are designed

Feels a lot more like a puzzle compared to IS5/6

[light latch]

You dont have very much control in is2

[boreal steeple]

I feel like its the opposite

[light latch]

its very easy to just randomly autolose in a way entirely out of your control

[boreal steeple]

OOC? Traumatized

[wanton meadow]

Idk i think it's part of the charm, sometimes roguelites are like that

[light latch]

I think a roguelike is pretty poorly designed if it has instant gameover scenarios on a dice roll personally

[urban sleet]

Which map is OOC

[median fable]

I have perfect control on is2, enough to know that I shouldn't play it

[light latch]

Is3 f5 map full of bonethrowers

[boreal steeple]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Out_of_Control, there is also one in is6

[nimble kite]

Out Of Control
IS3 F5.

[light latch]

Survivalist + any map with sleeping enemies already spawned for example can just immediately dump 3-7 enemies into the blue box

[urban sleet]

[wanton meadow]

I'm definitely biased but i do like how scrambly IS2 gets at times, i like having the game go south on you on a dime occasionally

[light latch]

Is2 cursed relics + hallucinations often result in the first enemy subtracting -4hp btw

going south is whatever

im not expecting to only highroll runs, but i would prefer if u dont just instantly die with no say in the matter

[pine plover]

meanwhile in IS4 you can just stack all Collapse effect at once

[light latch]

Other fun combinations include +5 hope cost to your next 4*+ recruitment, and having 1 deployment slot

[median fable]

"skill issue", Fib probably

[wanton meadow]

YOO 1P RELAY

[pine plover]

in other IS, floor debuff is either of one or two
in IS4, you can have all (technically 4) of floor debuffs as one package meal

fuuuuuuuun

[raven ermine]

What, you don't like getting ran over by a turboboosted collapsal ?

[pine plover]

The fastest path of descent is not a line between two points

[turbid ocean]

And if you play IS5 245, pathing itself is the puzzle which makes or breaks runs

[prime flame]

Do Alchemist's regular attacks deal physical or arts damage?

[pine plover]

all operator deals physical damage unless trait, talent, or skill said otherwise

[stray gust]

based on speculation from CN schedule, assuming we have a full week dedicated to icebreaker in which it is not a farming event, is it better if I use all my sanity pots to farm more mats and supply crates this week?

[pine plover]

they can always shove lapp2 event rerun on top during IG2

[slate coyote]

hi guys, theres no reason to rush ch 16 right if the limited mission only for the shop currency?

[obtuse obsidian]

yes

[urban sleet]

Do clear event shop

[opaque remnant]

I don't think you even have enough time to clear the shop by now

[obtuse obsidian]

going further for more crates is good too

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[urban sleet]

Oh wait geah

[potent tartan]

There is some limited time rewards/missions, but they dont give much

[opaque remnant]

just buy the modblocks and some then dip

[slate coyote]

yeah i think i dont need much mats, as long there's no such like limited medal i can take my time. thnks people

[opaque remnant]

you should always farm for event shop mats if possible-

[median fable]

pretty sure the medals are time-limited

[light latch]

?

[ripe beacon]

What is mantra's preferred skill

[nimble kite]

For Main Story?

[median fable]

I read the question wrongly. I thought it was about IB

[obsidian fox]

Which 3 and 4 stars should invest into?

[stray gust]

based on my reference at prts, the event schedule from CN would be icebreaker #2 > retracing our steps > stronghold protocol: alliance > I portatori dei velluti rerun, and my assumption is that EN wouldn't be too far off.

[median fable]

depends on context. If new read the beginner squad guide in the pins

or send krooster account here

[obtuse obsidian]

we might get all 4 events at once next week who knows

[shadow bay]

well they do overlap event nowadays.... who knows rly

[median fable]

yostar easily changes event order, I wouldn't bet too much on that

for example they run Pepe event rerun before the Hoshi2 one in global instead of Hoshi2-->Pepe like in cn

happened the same with Yu and Shu rerun iirc

[slate ridge]

Just wait when EN pulls a TW

[median fable]

they really should put some sort of calendar

[winter crystal]

Had the whole “Ines should arrive in the cert shop soon” for like 4 months bc

[opaque remnant]

how close was ines's banner to logos

[median fable]

which "ines banner", the og one?

[severe crypt]

Did you mean Ines to hool/mumu

[rain forge]

Ines released with chapter 11 iirc logos released with ch 14

[neon siren]

Does anyone know the rewards for ice breaker games?

[opaque remnant]

has she showed up in cert shop at all yet, I was trying to use it as a point of reference until there was apparently more than 1

[severe crypt]

Ines was chap 12

[rain forge]

[winter crystal]

Yes

[rain forge]

lmd and some other mats iirc

[winter crystal]

My example was in past tense 🥀

[rain forge]

She was in shop when exu2 released

[neon siren]

DAMN!
hmmmmm guess im still waiting for sa2 side story

[opaque remnant]

I should've paid more attention...

[rain forge]

[opaque remnant]

well was anyone else significant released close to logos other than ray and ascalon

[raven ermine]

https://prts.wiki/w/促融共竞2共竞目标

[neon siren]

Ooobthx

[winter crystal]

Ulipi wisadel

[nimble kite]

Battlepass with mats.

[opaque remnant]

right

[wraith shoal]

are both sash2 and pram2 limited?

[opaque remnant]

only sash2

[nimble kite]

Only SilverAsh. PramaAlter is Standard.
There will be only one Limited at the time.

[neon siren]

Yea they not that good

[winter crystal]

There’s only ever one limited, for wang and chen3, wang is limited

[rain forge]

any news abt the ursus side story yet

[nimble kite]

Nope.

[wraith shoal]

yeah for some reason I thought that both were

[winter crystal]

Other money hungry gacha games do that

[rain night]

I put one pull on the standard to get the pink hair girl but got Irene instead
Now she is pot1 xdd

I saw her is module in one cn video, is she worth building for the future ?

[opaque remnant]

-# granted they do both look like they'd be limited, but thank god it isn't

[winter crystal]

🍋? Yes

[severe crypt]

They got Irene

[wraith shoal]

well pram2 isnt limited but y'all say getting a 6 star offrate takes a huge amount of pulls and with no consistent reruns the chance of getting said non-limited is ultra low

[rain night]

Noo the rate up girl besides jessica alter

[winter crystal]

Oh “to get pink” EN moment

[wraith shoal]

older limited ones too,since they dont have reruns

[severe crypt]

So you got neither rate up and got Irene instead

[rain night]

Yep

[neon siren]

Wait until she sin a oreinteering or joint operation or sm, even cert shop exist

Pls she might just jump out randomly

[rain night]

Hey she has pink hair
Her name is just hard to spell

[raven ermine]

Yes ? Doesn't make her limited
Getting a random standard offrate as a spook and a limited one is very much not the same thing

[tulip cliff]

Question If I use Saria should I bring Haruka or lumen as my other healer...

[severe crypt]

Haruka cuz saria isn’t healing much, don’t bother with lumen

[opaque remnant]

haruka s2m3 mod1 will fulfill all your healing needs

[brazen gulch]

if you have both built why not

[wraith shoal]

yeah ik,just saying that she's practically limited,but what do i know i guess

[severe crypt]

I shudder at lumen being built 🥹

[winter crystal]

There should never be an instance you pick lumen over Haruka anyways 😭

[potent tartan]

6 star shiny so 6 star good

[quiet sandal]

anyone have hoshi alt s2m3 i can borrow plssss 😭 im struggling to complete last stage h16-4

[severe crypt]

XE40#3335

[opaque remnant]

hoshi alt is not taking the bear if that's what you want it for

[wraith shoal]

he wants og one edit:im dumb