help

[odd sky]

yes cheetos

[spare jetty]

chips

[formal shadow]

One of my favs. Funny offensive recovery IS mod

I'd actually try cheeto + lemuen s1 if I could but I'm lacking lemon 🥀

[mild yacht]

I’d loan her, but she’s not a rat.

[boreal steeple]

Lemuen start is decent ngl

[formal shadow]

Surely I'll cheeto + luto s1 strat

[stray gust]

cheeto lemon is actually decent since lemon gets to mark elite/boss that stays within cheeto range for 8 seconds and cheeto gain range with IS mod.

at least that in med sniper squad that is.

[formal shadow]

Yeah I keep forgetting cheeto is laterano

[winged thunder]

are the medals for ch16 locked to the event's duration or can i earn them outside the event?

[stray gust]

in non class squad cheeto mon3tr sakiko might be a better option though

[spare jetty]

can earn even outside of event

[formal shadow]

Yeah probably. Cheeto saki tech real

[winged thunder]

okay thanks! feeling bit lazy to do the H stages

[grizzled galleon]

AFTER SPAMMING HEAD HUNTING and RECRUIT I BEAT THE BEAR

[stray gust]

quick check on /greencert, is there any update on the sanity efficiency list? or I should just spend my green cert on whatever my stockpile is getting low on?

[odd sky]

that's already up to date

nothing really changed since pissjar

[stray gust]

grindstone/mango?

[opaque remnant]

in how many months will the recruitment shop be updated...

[hushed niche]

Is grey alter worth e2ing

[odd sky]

right grindstone is inf in sash2, i believe help been telling to not buy grindstone since exu2 tho

[opaque remnant]

used in IS I believe, not sure what else you'd use him for

[stray gust]

if you play IS most of your time. he is a very decent choice in most if not all IS.

[keen knot]

which module should I get for nightingale

[odd sky]

that was my bad, been so used to trash value mango grindstone, how outdated is that command wtf

[spare jetty]

good pick in is5 especially for ed4

[stray gust]

kohl is shit value in /greencert now with 0.06 sanity per cert, while cutting fluid is 0.596 sanity per cert.

[spare jetty]

i am 100% sure that he can solo left side with proper aspd and some sort of bait on ed4

[stray gust]

kohl is 0.06 sanity per cert while mango is 0.821 sanity per cert

[odd sky]

yea mango grindstone is outdated that's it

[abstract mauve]

you ever ask yourself why that is

[stray gust]

nothing else changes?

[odd sky]

mango value should be at 0.06 as well
while grindstone 🚬 peter hasn't taken future crash into account so

[steady tusk]

when is grindstone stocks crashing

[formal shadow]

Soon™

Pretty sure they've started adding it to event shop

[odd sky]

sash2
we've known since exu2 ends

[safe tundra]

its on silverass event right

[odd sky]

i remember farming grindstone on exu2, then as it ends sash2 announcement

[steady tusk]

If I forget about cn details I can be hyped when it comes to global

[formal shadow]

[grizzled galleon]

Now I’m getting abused on 16-15

[odd sky]

get a restraining order

[rocky pilot]

How many pulls at minimum can I get in 5 months grinding everything that gives

[safe tundra]

excluding oridinite prume?

[odd sky]

do you count AO farming?

[grizzled galleon]

Have you done all story and challenge stages?

[rocky pilot]

Yes I am outfit collector

[grizzled galleon]

Ggs

[rocky pilot]

I was not answering this

[formal shadow]

I'm too lazy to calc that

[steady tusk]

at least 120

[rocky pilot]

No

[safe tundra]

purely from weeklies and monthlies orundumb, there should be something around ~100

[boreal steeple]

You can stop here idk, you need lots of healing and dps

[steady tusk]

probs can get afew from tickets from events

[grizzled galleon]

Aw shucks

[formal shadow]

You'll get a couple of pulls from each of the event shop and orundumb from 2 anni events

[grizzled galleon]

Time to beat story chapter 5 I guess

[formal shadow]

I forget how many pulls the anni event daily rewards

[rocky pilot]

I am pulling sash2 banner

[formal shadow]

and I am the next Pope. yeah buddy

[rocky pilot]

After that I am broke on pulls again I am just counting how much I can get after pulling on sash2 banner

[boreal steeple]

https://b23.tv/J4bPfbm this clear exists if you're desperate to finish entire chapter

[hidden wolf]

These can be done after the event?

[thorn token]

Which module should I get for Saria? X or Y?

[boreal steeple]

Yea, only flints limited rewards will dissappear

[boreal steeple]

ModY lvl 1
Modx lvl 3 is niche usecase at bursting things(which is unnecessary)

[thorn token]

alr thx

[left tulip]

Oh imma use this too👀

Btw which mod is best for ascalon?

[brazen gulch]

the 20% passive slow one, level 1 is enough

[analog birch]

What do I get

[spare jetty]

yin

[manic hazel]

Is killing yis best choice just spamming tragodia?

[spare jetty]

trag+raidian

[inland osprey]

i still couldnt wrap my head around this IS mode , are they like CC back in the day , or do we still have CC now?

[spare jetty]

ccb
IS is simple,it just like a roguelikes

[manic hazel]

I haven't E2 raidian sadly
I only beat yi just now after abusing 2 Risk coins

[spare jetty]

do u have hoshialt and haruka?

if yes u can run both

[wraith shoal]

with some luck,hoshi2 isnt needed

[inland osprey]

oh damn , i guess ill scrap the surface first and learn my way down there , tbh all these new stuff kinda overwhelmed me little bit 😅

[spare jetty]

u can just fuck around and find out

[inland osprey]

it cost nothing right ?

[wraith shoal]

yeah,can do as many runs as you want

[manic hazel]

My plan just now was kaltsit and trag grind him down
Worked kinda well with some summoning buff

[inland osprey]

so its like permanent game mode ?

[livid crest]

Between CA 4 and CA 5, which one has the most gain out of the purple skill books?

[wraith shoal]

all of them are

[inland osprey]

aight imma fk around a bit , thz for heads up

[vivid yew]

should I build warfarin as of now? can she replace silence or something, is she good (warfarin)

[narrow canopy]

Just want to no which model I should pick for not alter hoshiguma?

[livid crest]

Not in whole area group of 3 heals no, but massively increases your dps output yes when mastery skill 2 lv3

[scenic yoke]

Should I E2 mantra first to replace necrass or monster, who will either replace gummy or will be swapped in as needed (I have tragodia s3m3 ready)

[rocky pilot]

You already have 3 healers to begin with so I say no for now

[spare jetty]

until u get raidian to e2,use special squad,it gives free raidian

[livid crest]

Her skill 2 lets her buff a random operator within her range and herself which you can set her priority by positioning her placement by up to 90%

[ancient belfry]

When can I change the difficulty?

[rocky pilot]

Reminder she buffs both the operator and herself you also get more heals out of that which is nice

[ancient current]

gummy thinks she's on the team

[spare jetty]

refresh icon

[ancient belfry]

thank youuu

[scenic yoke]

She is, as a meat shield

[ancient current]

the humble hoshiguma

[livid crest]

And especially for saki, it's perfect since she gets to have uika's heal if you brought her too and pumps the fever mode faster a side bonus

[narrow canopy]

Just want to no which model I should pick for not alter hoshiguma?

[chrome epoch]

is there any way to control who warfarin targets with s2

[rocky pilot]

Is always random, you can't

The only "way" you can is literally just use it on a singular dingular ingular op

[livid crest]

Just place her and your operator of your choice away one tile from everyone

[rocky pilot]

Social distancing everybody

[waxen flame]

how do you do the 3rd stage

[opaque remnant]

so, she can buff a medic?

[brazen gulch]

any operator, yes (maybe other allies like summons too, the game is not very consistent in it's wording in this regard)

[rocky pilot]

ANYTHING

[boreal steeple]

Upgraded spec squad is after getting e2 raidian

[rocky pilot]

Also can confirm this now
Even summons

[wanton meadow]

Uhh how much should i invest into shamare? I know i want s2m3 but what about the module situation?

[boreal steeple]

Lee s2, or make warfarin target only op you need to buff, or pray for rng

[olive mulch]

just curious, is there any vanguard without dp-recovery tag? if no, then what is the point of HG making dp-recovery tag if it is dependent to vanguards?

[limpid yarrow]

she buffed the m3 crystal summon once 💀

[boreal steeple]

Vg is the same to dp-recovery since its an archetype they have

[reef sparrow]

yato

[slate ridge]

even Confess doesnt have it

[reef sparrow]

so there's 2 then

[safe tundra]

if you try hard enough, charger vanguard cant make DP

[narrow canopy]

What model good for not alter hoshiguma?

[safe tundra]

X

[median fable]

X1

[ancient belfry]

Would this be faster than the one in the Roadless Camelot?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4yvIS57R-I

Commence, click three nodes, wipe save, rinse repeat.

[grizzled galleon]

Completed it thx

[hidden wolf]

Im getting molested by 16-15

[worldly estuary]

Thats what I did, also crafting some glowsticks

[rain forge]

just follow the glowstick farm guide man

[boreal steeple]

@hidden wolf

[median fable]

not even close

[flint onyx]

With enough dedication you can get 100k within one minute with glowsticks. Just need more time for wood farming

[boreal steeple]

He's cc somehow but not dp i wonder

[rain forge]

If it was faster then it would be in roadless Camelot instead of the glowstick guide

[boreal steeple]

You're kinda exaggerating about 100k in a minute but total 100k per reset possible yea

[median fable]

easily doable

[rocky pilot]

Need more...

[median fable]

just depends on how much wood you want to farm before starting the cycle of crafting-->points

[brazen gulch]

the "100k within a minute" doesn't count the preparations i imagine

[grizzled galleon]

16-16 gets even more fun

[rain forge]

H16-4 🤫

[grizzled galleon]

I can’t downgrade reception room?

[rain forge]

Nope

right side can’t be downgraded

[wraith shoal]

except activity rooms

[boreal steeple]

Activity rooms are activity rooms

[grizzled galleon]

So I can’t get max pinboard unless I sacrifice perfect base?

[wraith shoal]

exactly

[grizzled galleon]

Frick

[rain forge]

Pinboard is worthless after getting the 3 pulls

[grizzled galleon]

ok

[rocky pilot]

You don't need taxes anyway

[median fable]

you shouldn't complete pinboard mission because exactly for that

[rain forge]

just get spooked by Texas during recruitment smh my head

[rocky pilot]

Trust me you can either get her randomly in recruitment if you really wanna use her to begin with

[short steppe]

[boreal steeple]

Deployment smh

[rocky pilot]

I only slept for 3 hours my bad

[brazen gulch]

the satisfaction from seeing "all missions complete" is priceless

[rain forge]

the satisfaction of 70k lmd per day is even better

[wanton meadow]

https://www.krooster.com/u/gvm shamare e2 s2m3 next should be ok to do atp right?

[wraith shoal]

how many of y'all actually left the reception lvl1 though? Cause every lvl 120 I see has 3 supports

[crystal flame]

Anyone know what this limited currency is for? I don’t see a place to spend it

[rocky pilot]

Those players at that point probably can do what they want because they grinded to the point of not worrying about resources to up ops anymore or so

[median fable]

most of veterans have it at lv3 because back then we didn't have enough infos to know that it was a bad thing

[wanton meadow]

A lot of older players fell for the 243 trap and can't downgrade

[median fable]

be sure if we had this knoweledge back then more people would have lv1/2 rr

[rocky pilot]

Only beta testers or something as well as cn have the knowledge smh blame them should have told us first day when arknights released in en

[median fable]

e2 shamare for base, masteries can be done in case after an eventual Sash2/Pram2 pull but idk your exact context
mind you, shamare is one of the best 5* if not the best but her usage is still niche

[median fable]

which limited currency?

[short steppe]

[crystal flame]

Flint, I think

[urban sleet]

Ch 16 event has an event shop

[wanton meadow]

Aight I'll get to prefarming sash2 and pram2 mats then 👍

[crystal flame]

I’m a new player. I’m on chapter 5-3. Can I access the event shop still?

[rain forge]

yes, go to humanitarian assistance in the event menu

[median fable]

I'd rather do s3m3 on Mon3tr first for example, somehow I missed that

[abstract mauve]

😟

[rain forge]

gulp

[wanton meadow]

That comes up?

[rain forge]

totally non suspicious file

[rocky pilot]

Maybe send it again on a different screenshot...

[wraith shoal]

Can someone tell me ops I should focus more on? Mostly want to level lower star ops but if any unleveled 6 star I have is good that changes things. https://www.krooster.com/u/ster

[bleak kraken]

What do y'all think would look better 🤔

[boreal steeple]

Grace

[brazen gulch]

happened to me as well, typically when using the "share image" function on my phone. god bless 2026 technology

[opaque remnant]

what kind of person would borrow myrtle from support

[urban sleet]

Smh 0 base slaves raised
Go look up #r-i-i-c pins to know which ones to raise

[crystal flame]

Idk how to get to the event shop. Idk if I can… is it this square to the right of ch15?

[rain forge]

Sakiko s3m3 mod3, hoshi2 s3m3, logos s3m3, mon3tr s2m3, haruka s2m3, raise surfer, and e2 proviso

[boreal steeple]

Enter main screen and choose the ch16 like usual

[wraith shoal]

gathering resources currently since I leveled too many 6 stars and run out of lmd and xp

[rain forge]

Main menu > abnormal spectrum > humanitarian assistance

[rocky pilot]

Flying cars they said

[urban sleet]

Ofc you would
You are supposed to raise base slaves before venturing out to e2 anyone

[median fable]

which is exactly why we recommend raising base slaves first

[wraith shoal]

does saki really need mod3? Heard mod2 was enough

[rain forge]

Also don’t use myrtle s2 use s1

[boreal steeple]

Spend them on more important things if you can. Tomorrow weekly reset

[crystal flame]

lol, ugh, sorry guys. Thank you! Found it 😂

[urban sleet]

Mod2 is minimum but mod3 would be best

[rain forge]

Mod2 is enough mod3 is better

[rocky pilot]

I sacrificed my exp and lmd for the 6* I am raising for base slaves and it got way better

[wraith shoal]

yeah,chose to fully master s2 thinking it was better lol

[rocky pilot]

Before I was just getting dirt without base slaves

[rain forge]

Also kick out myrtle and use surfer instead

[median fable]

base slaves are so cheap and will bring huge gains in the long term. Think about all the missed opportunity cost

[rain forge]

Surfer s1

[urban sleet]

Biggest example would be des, aroumd the same account lvl as you but much better account

[wraith shoal]

appart from slaves though? Like what are some good 4 or 5 stars for general content and IS?

[rain forge]

🥹

also im level 76 rn

[urban sleet]

Oh thought it was 67

[grizzled galleon]

Ye 16-16 is smth else

I got teleported into a domain expansion or smth

[urban sleet]

Pls read boss mechanics

[wraith shoal]

should've asked for help sooner, but forgot there was the server so lost out

[urban sleet]

never late to improve

[rocky pilot]

Act or die will take a long time until rerun right?

[rain forge]

around the end of the year

[grizzled galleon]

@boreal steeple pls save meee

[rain forge]

#strategy with your krooster

[rocky pilot]

Damn should have return to the game sooner

[boreal steeple]

LMFAO

[bleak kraken]

Is Wang the limited or Chen3?

[rocky pilot]

Limited

[winter crystal]

wang

[boreal steeple]

Wang like any other sui sibling

[rain forge]

All the Sui are limited

What level does your sanity cap out at 180

[boreal steeple]

https://b23.tv/y2SnGOe add more ops to make it easier

[rocky pilot]

Wait can wang potentially can do more damage than wis or am I high on drugs

[urban sleet]

He does indeed

[opaque remnant]

he does deal more damage than wis

[vital kelp]

A lot of ops can do more damage than Wis potentially

[rain forge]

sakiko already does more dmg than Wis against single target

[vital kelp]

Potentially potentially

[urban sleet]

Yeah iirx ray with mod asw

[rocky pilot]

Ima just save my pulls after getting one 6* from sash2 banner might as well

[opaque remnant]

I have heard 0 information about mody, the fuck even is the stat change

[rain forge]

Better cycle or smth I forgot

[opaque remnant]

isn't that the current mod

[urban sleet]

Y is more dmg iirc, x is cycle

[rain forge]

[urban sleet]

Havs a hool

[opaque remnant]

how much is the increase on mody

[cyan venture]

how many green certs to buy out entire phase 1 and the hh permits on phase 2?

[rocky pilot]

I am not spending 70 useless pulls on useless standards like last time

[opaque remnant]

actually, just use /greencert

[rain forge]

how worth it is pram2 mod3

[tulip inlet]

Why are some of the tags greyed out while others are black? Is this a garantueed tag vs a non garantueed?

[median fable]

Ray mod should be mody2

[opaque remnant]

the fuck is the stat change on mody, I have not seen a single showcase

I can't even find one

[median fable]

around a +17% in dph, total dmg is equal to mod x but require one less shot

[boreal steeple]

Y is more dmg yes, and dph is higher with 7 extra aspd. X is just faster beast

[ancient current]

none of these are guaranteed. the only ones that are guaranteed with 9h timer are top operator and senior operator
during recruitment, black tags are the ones that have been found and will apply. greyed out ones are the ones that have not been "found" yet, so you are still unsure whether they will be crossed out or not

[urban sleet]

Cuz its in cn rn not out yet in en

[wraith shoal]

for base,do I need to do all the combos too or doesnt make such a big difference if I just dump some good ones each rotation?

[rain forge]

The instant snow layer doesn’t seem that useful to me

[opaque remnant]

yeah, I just mean I haven't been able to see a single showcase of it in something like youtube

[ancient current]

idk tbh

[urban sleet]

Cn folks dont post on yt

[boreal steeple]

1 layer of snow, depends how early you gonna place pram2 or lower op. Mod1 is enough for most players, mod3 i personally would like

[ancient current]

wouldn't take the graph at face value considering how janky the bot is sometimes but

[rain forge]

The other thing is

Instant snow layer doesn’t seem that useful to me

[opaque remnant]

I wonder how many targets does many refer to

[ancient current]

huh, I see

can stop at y1 then tbh

[boreal steeple]

~3-4k arts dmg and -12% mvspd, not that crucial but its comfortable to me

[rain forge]

number of people in her range iirc

Mod1 has a 15% attack buff depending on people in her range

[rain forge]

aight

What does the snow do again aside from slowing and making the blue box a defender

Also which skills to prio m3 for sash2 and pram2

[urban sleet]

Pram2 is s2>s3 wirh s1 having niche applications

As for sa2 uh idr about his s3 (iirx it is also niche) but s2 mastery gains are pretty bad

[rain forge]

yeah s2 masteries is just dmg which you don’t need on a vg

[urban sleet]

Ye

[ancient current]

arts dmg

[boreal steeple]

S1 is sl7
S2m3, then s3m3. S3 has dps burst with lure, s2 is strong afk skill

[rain forge]

ig sash2 stays at sl7

what skills do they use for gen content and IS again

[urban sleet]

Think IS is both and s2 for gen but let someone else confirm

[boreal steeple]

He buffs others not himself wtf

[opaque remnant]

is this the rare case where the AFK skill is the best skill for the unit

[urban sleet]

Inflicts cild too iirc

[urban sleet]

Theres haruka too
Mountain and thorns also have afk skills as their bwst skills even back when they were good

Pluma also prefers her afk s1 so does humus

[boreal steeple]

I'll mote that its on s2
Enemies on Snow tiles will receive 20% of ATK as Arts Damage per second and are inflicted with Cold for 5 seconds when exiting them

[urban sleet]

Unusual yes but not rare exacrly

[rocky pilot]

Counting the random login ticket thingy plus all the daily pulls and 10x free pull at mail for sash2 banner how much pulls at lowest can be gotten

[opaque remnant]

ah right, best healer that's not even medic

[urban sleet]

Iirc a guy said everage pulls from orundum event is around 14
So 14+24=38

[rocky pilot]

Alright that's enough for me

[rain forge]

Worst case scenario ~40 pulls (24 from banner, 4 from daily orundum and 41 originite from the event)

[urban sleet]

Well thats average not lowroll

[rain forge]

This is assuming you low roll all the orundum

[boreal steeple]

I'd confirm tbh

[rocky pilot]

I am planning to only use the free pulls on sash2 banner then only use my own pulls I saved up on the last day if I don't get a 6*

[rain forge]

Yeah that works

[urban sleet]

Thats what you should be doing optimally anyways

[rain forge]

Just don’t forget to pull on the last day

[rocky pilot]

I tend to be impatient when it comes to gambling have to fight my addiction

[urban sleet]

Real

[rain forge]

I think a guy in #arknights did that once and forgot to pull on the last day of the hoshi2 banner so they accidentally skipped the banner

[urban sleet]

Banner simulators exist online

[grizzled galleon]

Does IS 7 exist or nah

[rocky pilot]

We're not in 2028

[urban sleet]

Il Siracusano side story

[opaque remnant]

il-siracusano, IS no

[rain forge]

IS-7 (il siracusano stage 7) yes

IS7 as in integrated strategies theme 7 no

[grizzled galleon]

aight

[rain forge]

What was the time gap between is5 final update and is6 release again

[boreal steeple]

Same

[rain forge]

How good is wang for IS btw

I heard he wasn’t that good in IS because he couldn’t benefit from aspd

[urban sleet]

Fib uses him for his relicless runs if I am not mistaken

[boreal steeple]

1st september last update, 1st october some addition and finalized is5
18th december is6 start

[rocky pilot]

From what I see he wants his bombs but not aspd

[boreal steeple]

He doesn't like homeless people

[carmine trout]

Meow

[boreal steeple]

He's great starter tbh, you cant really statcheck wang

[rocky pilot]

What contents of the game I can use degenbrecher on
Or just mostly versatile

[urban sleet]

She was used for some is4 ending iirc but better ops exist now

[boreal steeple]

She's versatile but short bursts are kinda rare where it requires it

[rocky pilot]

Okay good enough

[boreal steeple]

Degen+warf is used sometimes too, pretty strong combo

[opaque remnant]

wouldn't irene be a better pick for IS due to mod?

[urban sleet]

-# mudrock also recommended for an ending in pinned guide, ik she has been optimised out but all those neighbouring mudrock simps got a W for a period of time

[boreal steeple]

Not really tbh. She's kinda fragile some people say

[urban sleet]

I was asking for gvg recs the other day and uh irene didnt pop up

[opaque remnant]

shame

[stray gust]

quick question, how good is mantra in IS?

[urban sleet]

Someone crashed their pc around her release while trying her out against izumik

[limpid yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1484171266461012109/VID_20260319134332-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

but realistically not really super useful

[winter crystal]

where do you get these gifs

[limpid yarrow]

quite good in IS4 at the time, still okay in IS4 today
IS5 and up you have archetto + degen core as well

[stray gust]

realistically how good is she aside from highground tiles invis reveal?

[limpid yarrow]

top DPS if we ever get another CC

but basically no other content needs that level of setup

[stray gust]

but if we managed to get that kind of setup she is quite decent?

[limpid yarrow]

you can still use her in normal content it's just hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby matchup
(plus there are more comfy picks like logos or wisadel)

[stray gust]

like, tragodia mantra nuke paired with mizuki stall in IS?

[rocky pilot]

I wanted irene when I got back into looking at arknights videos then degenbrecher took the spotlight so I am asking these questions

[limpid yarrow]

other than the jellies ™ her IS performance is not great

[rocky pilot]

But anyways good to know

[limpid yarrow]

casters are all buns generally which is not a great help
but her advantage of consistent elemental(true) damage is weakened a lot when everyone is gigabuffed by relics

meanwhile it shines when everyone is debuffed like crazy(like, for example, CC)

and enemies are taking like -70% arts damage and such

[winter crystal]

^this is also why you saw monster blazalt and yu S3 play in the last cc

[stray gust]

another question, for those who stockpile a lotor spam build ops, what should be a desired amount of lmd or xp kept in stockpile

[limpid yarrow]

id ballpark it at like 1 million ish for a e2 60

[brazen gulch]

i would certainly desire about an infinity lmd right now

[lunar apex]

less than 700k iirc

[limpid yarrow]

but there are calculators online

[snow siren]

Is chongyue coming back?

[rocky pilot]

Actually last question how useful is eblana special summon

[limpid yarrow]

okay in IS5
great for daily content
middling everywhere else

shes another laneholder in a sea of laneholders
a role that isn't even particularily important these days

[nimble kite]

Banner - never.

As a offrate and spark - on Wang banner.

[left tulip]

What are the cc meta ops btw

[winter crystal]

[limpid yarrow]

cc meta is weird because you have to think about like
saileach, magellan, crownslayer, etc. as decent picks

[winter crystal]

ive actually had a lot of fun with banana start for d15 IS4

[stray gust]

is it weird that I have like 8.8m xp and 9m lmd while not building ops?

[limpid yarrow]

ya you should build more ops

[rocky pilot]

Build the tomimi

[left tulip]

Im invested👀 and extremely far lol

[winter crystal]

well thats ok bc we arent getting cc anytime soon lmao

[limpid yarrow]

depends on tags but generally
dp gen: either agents(- sp tags) or saileach(-aspd tags), and probably sa2 now that he's out
dps: wang(default dps) or mantra/m3(-arts damage tags) and i guess ceobe is still a thing
stall: tragodia/ela/leizi2/suzu etc...

[left tulip]

Hey I guess I have mantra and am potentially getting sa2 and wang , btw what agents that are busted generally struggle hard in CC?

[abstract mauve]

wdym by the agent question?

[nimble kite]

Ines, Canta/Surfer.
Obviously first option is very much yes.

[left tulip]

Wdym by first option?

[nimble kite]

Ines. She's very busted everywhere.

No matter which gamemode you play, you will 100% use her in any moment.

[limpid yarrow]

other than sneg who just released the other agents have all done some things I think

[left tulip]

But so, she struggles in CC?

[limpid yarrow]

no probably top 3 op for cc even with -aspd

[nimble kite]

No, she has uses. On latest CCB4, she's the one who starts your 620.

[left tulip]

Wait then why bring her up

[limpid yarrow]

invis reveal, slow, bind, and some dp gen

[scenic basalt]

what r your thoughts about Wang, guys?

[limpid yarrow]

another great dps
not much more than that

[abstract mauve]

he's the damage cap in the game but has less utility
his utility is his other skills

[scenic basalt]

can you break it down? i wanna know

[left tulip]

Wait maybe I asked my question wrong, but what I meant is, what agents that are very good overall, instead aren’t good in CC

[scenic basalt]

i mean, dump all the info, guys, i really wanna know

[rocky pilot]

He puts bombs

[abstract mauve]

would just recommend you read his kit on the wiki atp

[limpid yarrow]

cantabile ig

[limpid yarrow]

wisadel but you have to manually place the bombs

[abstract mauve]

unless you dont really get some part of his kit it should be somewhat self explanatory once you watch a video using him

[rocky pilot]

Also deals art damage and they can link to deal more damage, also have some res ignore

That's all I can sum up in a short sentence honestly watch a showcase video if you really want to know his kit

[scenic basalt]

now, i heard some people call him "bad". why is that?

[abstract mauve]

it's mainly that his damage is very high quality. 36 res ignore with no pots and very high total damage with ~150k total arts damage. his mines from talent and s3 can ignore trapmaster placement restrictions. when using s3 he can hit air iirc and durign s3 he can straight up place traps on enemies. he has 5x5 range as well. his s3 traps have same range as texas s2

[limpid yarrow]

supah video title

[rocky pilot]

Just watch the video to begin with

[abstract mauve]

cuz it's good clickbait

[rocky pilot]

I see that vid too and I already know the full context without watching it because I am used to it at this point

[left tulip]

Cuz he’s lame asf

[scenic basalt]

tell me more

[abstract mauve]

[rocky pilot]

Are the titles sarcastic? Are the titles passive aggressive? Are the titles misinfo? Are the titles glazing?
You never know until you learn it yourself

[left tulip]

Wait what video

[limpid yarrow]

the scheming mastermind guy that’s always planning something steps ahead has the most unga bunga kit yet

[boreal steeple]

Carnelian sucks yes

[abstract mauve]

for 99% of people he is the most unga bunga type character. for like 3 people, they might actually get good usage out of him

[rain forge]

he's just point at a tile and place bomb

he's good but boring as shit

[scenic basalt]

is it somehow ruining Arknights? or is there any other thoughts on him?

[abstract mauve]

arknights is easy enough as is

[limpid yarrow]

it’s hard for an operator to “ruin Arknights” it’s just a little disappointing is all

[boreal steeple]

Like hg likes to make an operator that ignores it's archetype restriction. Why

[abstract mauve]

at least sui finally has some "good" dps

[boreal steeple]

Wang is already doing everything himself

[scenic basalt]

disappointing as in Wisadel case back then?

[abstract mauve]

not remotely close

wisadel was light years ahead of the rest of her competition at that point

[limpid yarrow]

(similar total damage to mlynar)

longest running river in arknights unc still got it

but she was much easier to use

being a ranged operator with camo and good off skill dps
instead of doing zero things

[abstract mauve]

smh. unc had to get given his meds to compete better

[ancient belfry]

I can't plant it, how

nvm, im not on headquarters -_-

[rocky pilot]

Someone take away his newspaper

[abstract mauve]

mlynar was a good contender but in hindsight ye she's a decent bit better off

[sand folio]

Was Wis very obviously strong on launch or was it something only realized some time after her debut?

[abstract mauve]

she was very obviously strong at launch

[scenic basalt]

so which one do you feel disappointed most, is it Wisadel or Wang?

[rain forge]

he's just disappointing he isnt ruining arknights in any way

[abstract mauve]

actually, i wasnt that tuned in to CN news back then. EN side had foresight of 6 months and everyone was like "this is the best banner in AK history"

[rain forge]

unless they release an operator that lets you straight up ban other people's accounts i doubt any operator would ruin arknights as a whole

[neon siren]

Talulah playable when this shit happens

[rain forge]

talulah playable next cn limited banner 🤫
source: me

[abstract mauve]

you dont ruin a game by adding another crutch operator. it's an accessibility option for those who want to use it. high end play will differ from how players normally play the game

[rain forge]

you can clear shit with just 4* ops

[neon siren]

Chen got 3 versions talulah not even playable.

-# hg deff has a fav daughter

[abstract mauve]

just dont expect it to be remotely easy tho

[rain forge]

-# or fun

[frank wing]

for is6, would a humus, purestream, radian start, cutter, purestream, radian start, or myrtle, ethan, radian start be better?

[left tulip]

12 gravels

[neon siren]

[scenic basalt]

okay, thank you for answering my questions, guys
God Bless you and have a great day

[sand folio]

Quick q
Based on past experiences is it reasonable to expect Ho2hi's mod anytime soon?

[rain forge]

confirmed to be released with silverash alter

[boreal steeple]

Humus purestream, or just spec squad with exu2

[neon siren]

Do both sa2 and wang limited events give a top operator tag?

I've seen H4 16 clears on bilibili with just sa2 and pram alter.

They way too fucking broken together

[rain forge]

sash2 yes wang no

[neon siren]

Oh alright

[rain forge]

how often do they give out the free monthly pass again

[wanton meadow]

The issue is cutter is miserable to play at e1, so a cutter start would be rough unless you use an e2 start

[neon siren]

They gave out a few monthly ???

[rain forge]

last one was during masses travels iirc

[limpid yarrow]

for big evnets sometimes

[left tulip]

Wait wut? For recruitment?

[neon siren]

Yea

[left tulip]

I didn’t know that was a thing, very cool

[humble nova]

Is quibai good

[undone portal]

alright in a vacuum if you need dps options, but theres a lot of ops who match/exceed her dps output with less required synergy

qiubai asks for someone to apply slow for her during s3. in practice that means you should be gluing her to suzuran s3

[humble nova]

Oh cool okay 👌

[lone valley]

We dont know
It happened only twice in entirety of the game
On full anni's
Altho it happened twice on the same "thing"
We cant say it will continue to

[undone portal]

^ 'once a year during celebration events' seems to be the precedent but you cant really assume a pattern off of something happening twice

[left tulip]

Btw will lappalt get a banner rerun or did she already get one

[undone portal]

shes a limited unit, limited banners dont ever rerun
she'll be back as an offrate during silveralt banner and future celebration limited banners

[left tulip]

Bruuuuuh so if I really want her I gotta spark

[boreal steeple]

Just roll offrate early

[brazen gulch]

tomorrow isn't guaranteed to happen just because yesterday did

[south parrot]

which so tag would be best to pair with? i lack ptlio from medic, dont really know who the other good ops to go for

[left tulip]

Yea surely that will work…..

[neon siren]

You act like that's easy

[boreal steeple]

Senior medic, warf or ptilo are best from there

[boreal steeple]

I'm trolling and giving hope for people

[neon siren]

[left tulip]

Btw what are the actual chances of getting a 4 star or 5 star off recruitment, when getting a 3 star is a possibility?

[scenic basalt]

if i already have Logos, would i still need Lapptop?

[boreal steeple]

You dont need anyone, but only want them

[neon siren]

Laptop had global range, if u are looking for global range you need her, if not logos covers the whole caster class.

If u like her then you need her

[scenic basalt]

i like her 😭 but umm

[neon siren]

[neon siren]

I do too, I'm going to offrate her

[left tulip]

At least all 3 high chances off rates are rly cool

[rain forge]

i see

aside from exu2 when was the other time it happened

wisadel?

[rain forge]

wisadel, laptop and who else again

[left tulip]

Virtuosa

[neon siren]

Arturia

[rain forge]

oh right funny violin woman

[boreal steeple]

Yes tutu/tuta wtv

[neon siren]

*Funny violin woman who has committed war crimes

[left tulip]

Oh btw wouldn’t virtuosa be pretty good for CC

[undone portal]

she was useful in previous ccs when tragodia wasnt real yet

[sand folio]

I vaguely remember using a mage on SSS's tutorial with global range during skill and some crystals or drones iirc (can't open the game now). Anyone knows who that could be based on this short description?

[left tulip]

Gg?

[ancient belfry]

will this replenish?

[left tulip]

<

[sand folio]

Yup, after the season changes

[sand folio]

Oh, could be, I vaguely remember the pink hair. She looks pretty fun, will she be on any confirmed banners anytime soon?

[left tulip]

Im not knowledgeable on the topic but I think she’s not? And not a particularly recent op as well

[sand folio]

Ye, I mean, she is on SSS's tutorial so I assumed she is at least some years old

[left tulip]

How does SSS work btw? like the system of it being open and so on

[fathom hawk]

how much mastery? (the thing after skill lvl 7) should i give ascalon

[rain forge]

s2m3

[pale tapir]

s2m3 is good

[fathom hawk]

oke ty 🙏

[undone portal]

pair of maps that get rotated out on 12week seasons, theres season missions for clearing them under specific conditions
data instrument/stick earnings are reopened every month

[undone portal]

on cn, the joint op banner that ran alongside stronghold protocol: alliance was goldenglow/lemuen/degenbrecher/ho'olheyak
joint ops are subject to change when they reach global so no guarantee gg stays, and these banners arent really worth looking at unless you have a lot of pulls to spare and happen to be missing everyone on the banner

joint op banners wont give you offrate 6stars, which means the banner value plummets the moment you get one of the onrates

[native cargo]

What chapter is back to the flames s9-2?

[rain forge]

chapter 9

[native cargo]

Does this mean story stages before chapter 9 will now only cost 0 sanity?

[rain forge]

no

theres two difficulties

standard: costs sanity and gives on first clear
story: much easier than standard, costs no sanity but does not give at all

[lyric lagoon]

story environment is just a new difficulty that costs 0 sanity but gives no and barely any rewards

[native cargo]

Ah like an easier version of the stage tht gives rewards apart from prtice

[pale tapir]

story is literally for what it's described as

[knotty wave]

to put it simply, its a difficulty slider

[native cargo]

I dont get it how does this affect my game it's still the same

[lyric lagoon]

that doesn’t* give rewards

story mode gives first time clear rewards for exp books, that’s all, no campaign mission clear, no material drop, no , nothing else

[pale tapir]

what really matters here is the ability to clear adverse
instead of doing the stage on standard then on CM, you can just do adverse and save yourself the hassle of doing the same stage twice
you spend same amount of sanity as clearing standard then CM, but get the rewards for both simultaneously

[native cargo]

Ah ye I saw the slider at the bottom ig it's just diff mode

[lyric lagoon]

also you can’t access challenge mode for chapter 9 if you clear story environment

[knotty wave]

in the later chapters, youll be able to select Adverse Mode that makes stages in that ch cost twice as much sanity but if you clear it, will give you the rewards from story, normal, and adverse in 1 run

[lyric lagoon]

aka during the very next chapter you move onto

[native cargo]

Ohh the rewards stack

[ancient current]

the entire point is getting all rewards for all difficulties in one clear

it's like autodeploying 6 times for 6x rewards, but you only play the stage 1 time

[knotty wave]

it also saves you time. Back then, you have to do normal and challenge mode separately. With adverse, it only takes you 1 clear per stage

[glossy schooner]

Any ops that I should level or anything?

https://www.krooster.com/u/real-beige-aak-33l4

[undone portal]

also no dealing with a strategy working on normal but not on cm and having to change it. one clear counts for everything

[lyric lagoon]

cn account?

[native cargo]

Ain't story broken for farming then since it costs 0 sanity regardless of low drop

[undone portal]

story environment doesnt drop mats

[glossy schooner]

No, I made a mistake with Krooster I think, ignore the reignfrost he isnt supposed to be there

[pale tapir]

did u read what nao said

[glossy schooner]

I’m EN

[pale tapir]

@native cargo

[native cargo]

Well he said doesn't give rewards and I looked in the game it does give some

[pale tapir]

read his message again please

[native cargo]

Oh okok

[lyric lagoon]

mon3tr s2m3, degen s3m3 mod1, lemuen s3m3 mod2, e2 proviso (e1 doesn’t do anything for her)

[glossy schooner]

Needs chapter 15 chirals, I can get that, Chapter 15 chirals again and chapter 14 stage, I’ll get E2

[lyric lagoon]

also finish your hoshi2 s3m3 mastery, tequila e2 since you have shamare

[shy quiver]

When is the banner/event w/ SilverAsh alt?

[lyric lagoon]

in about a month or so, just and follow #game-news

[shy quiver]

Thank

Hoarde until then right?

[glossy schooner]

Chapter 15 chirals Again, Tequila I’ll grab his E2

[left tulip]

What ops have a similar effect to ptilo where they give a passive buff to sp regen? if there r any?

[knotty wave]

some ops give class-specific sp regen like suzu or mosti

[abstract mauve]

shu gives sp/s. not exactly sp regen

[frank talon]

Mostima for casters and Suzu for Supporters iirc I don't have Suzu tho

[rose mist]

Is Mudrock's module worth getting? If so, which should I get?

[undone portal]

ch'en gives sp/s for off/def.rec

[frank talon]

Yeah

[abstract mauve]

mudrock kinda fell off like a few years ago. wouldnt personally invest in a mod

[ancient current]

the magical website
though Heidi doesn't show so

[glossy schooner]

Fucking hell so many of my masteries need chiral reflectors

[lyric lagoon]

use tomimi.dev in pins to filter results

[undone portal]

x1 works, ive seen good applications for y3
hard to justify modding mudrock in the big 26 tho

[left tulip]

What does this mean btw, the second part

[rain forge]

she gives sp regen for offensive and defensive recovery skills

[left tulip]

Oh I see ty

[abstract mauve]

isnt chen only for offensive

[rain forge]

[knotty wave]

its like archetto's but worse

[rose mist]

x3's SP restore sounds kinda cool tho

[lyric lagoon]

oh no, it’s for offensive or defensive

[abstract mauve]

apparently so. i was checking the wiki as well rn

[native cargo]

Can op only have 3 module on its existence

[abstract mauve]

yes quite a lot of them have 3

generally it's due to IS mod or RA mod

ebenballs gets a medal for being first delta mod while having an x and a y mod

[undone portal]

its def.rec too. ive used her + hung too many times to be wrong on this

[abstract mauve]

this gives me ideas with sankta miksa and shalem

[ancient current]

the accursed blemishine dagda s1 technology

[lyric lagoon]

he’ll get IS mod when leithanien IS trust

[severe crypt]

Is it better than the zuo le gravel tech

[ancient current]

most certainly
dagda died anyways

[left tulip]

~~who’s hung again? What’s the combo ~~

[ancient current]

the furry 5* guardian defender

[left tulip]

Oh I thought it was an abbreviation mb

[lyric lagoon]

the combo is he has all defensive skills so chen just regens sp for him, that’s about it

[ancient current]

isn't ch'en talent only for guards

[abstract mauve]

na

[ancient current]

did i forgor

[lyric lagoon]

no, any op with offensive or defensive skill

[abstract mauve]

archetto is the one that's limited to snipers

[undone portal]

ch'en1s goated what can i say

[ancient current]

ah im mixing her up with chetto then probably

[left tulip]

Oh btw do people buy the tokens for potential in yellow cert shop

[abstract mauve]

on this note, should i cert archetto when i get the chance?

[abstract mauve]

only for whales or collectors

[limpid yarrow]

if you plan on playing IS her IS module is very heat

[fathom nest]

Or those that don't know better

[limpid yarrow]

but otherwise marksman class in the big 2026 💀

[undone portal]

archetto + sakiko lowkey feels like The IS Blender™ if you can safely draft and e2 both. i would

[ancient current]

or schizo people (me)

[undone portal]

archetto + umiri clears low floors pretty consistently from my testing

[fathom nest]

I'd throw them (you) in that category

[left tulip]

What brings you there

[ancient current]

-# don't look at my krooster

[abstract mauve]

umiri + what is the equivalent of an sp charger is pretty good from my experience as well

[grizzled galleon]

Might need 2 more days to beat ts

even with the guide I’m cooked also what can I use to replace the defender

[boreal steeple]

Borrow wisadel

[grizzled galleon]

Aight

[maiden prawn]

Hello!! I know that there is a way to check the next upcoming FEATURED banners but is there also one for the next standard banners?

[ancient current]

standard rotating banners? nope

they vary in function of HG's mood and what they ate this morning

[boreal steeple]

Standard - no, there's joint operation eith icebreaker games but we dont know who will be there

[maiden prawn]

I’M CRYING OKAY THANK YOU ANYWAYS

[languid swan]

Is Typhon still relevant? Does she have a niche and what are her competitors in terms of alternatives in a team?

Also are her mods worth it? What skills are good on her?

[ancient current]

typhon's niche is being a comfortable afk bot

that's it

she wants mod Y
she usually uses s2

[languid swan]

Oki

[ancient current]

tldr giga zzzzzz unit but very much workable

[polar hollow]

so like thoughts on this thing? better or worse than just buying skins with op?

[glossy schooner]

Do not

[polar hollow]

this does not really help

[pale tapir]

only marginally "worth it" if you have all the 15 skins in the pool already
even then it's completely random and u might get a skin for an op u don't have

[nimble kite]

If you get 15 OP skin that way, you lose money more than get it from it.

[ancient current]

well check the pool and gauge your chances at getting the skin you want
we will advise you to not use it because that's direct pull currency for cosmetics, obviously
but if you're a skin buyer, it isn't really worth it over if there's like 1 skin you want among 18 options

[clear hollow]

We should be getting the buyable 6 star selectors from the shop for Silverash Alter's event right? Idk if they'd include ops like Haruka and such since they are new

[ancient current]

it goes up to mon3ter, and yes

[balmy plinth]

is lappy a worthy candidate for the e2 ticket or should i stick to the default and give it to specter? i feel like specter is more universal and gets a better upgrade out of e2 no?

[clear hollow]

Ok so anything past like Exu Alt released standard 6 stars are not on that voucher then (Starting from Lemuen)

[ancient current]

well I recall the pins advising specter now but tequila also works
realistically lapp isn't an outright bad pick but the other two have better value

[ancient current]

yep

[polar hollow]

how many of the skins actually are 15 op normally though?

[ancient current]

quite a lot

mostly old ones though, down the line we got more 18op skins than 15op

[pale tapir]

yea 15op is mostly y0 y1 maybe y2 stuff from what I remember

[ancient current]

we've still been getting 15op skins here and there recently

but most skins get effects now so

[frozen echo]

You can get ch 16 medals later right?

[shadow bay]

yep as long as u have access to ch16 later on

the only limited in the event atm seeing the ch update trend are the missions that give flint

[polar hollow]

what event is CN on rn?

[frozen echo]

/cnevent in #bot-spam

[polar hollow]

yes but is that actually updated though

[frozen echo]

yes

[frozen echo]

instead of getting flint I spammed random events for OP, today realized it dont give me flint

[ancient wind]

Saria S1 or S2?

[shadow bay]

1

[frank wing]

do we have an ETA for icebreaker?

[frozen echo]

depends if you need range

[frozen echo]

no

[vocal rapids]

Is she good?

[frozen echo]

Very

S2M3 asap

why are you pulling

[lyric lagoon]

similar to sash2, in about a month or so, just and follow #game-news

[frozen echo]

half a month

[frank wing]

I thought sash2 was mid april though

[lyric lagoon]

“or so”

[frank wing]

fair enough

[shadow bay]

most fawned vg atm due to her multiple utilities

[vocal rapids]

Miss click.

I got mantra as well

[lyric lagoon]

buddy there are confirmation screens

[vocal rapids]

In the same pull so I’m not buddy

[vocal rapids]

I was checking how much I needed for a 10 pull since I had 7 headhunting permits😭

[shadow bay]

wdym u can misclick pressing 10 pulls, and misclick confirming u actually gonna do the misclicked 10 pull

[vocal rapids]

It was a miss inputttttt

[frozen echo]

1800

[vocal rapids]

I know that know.

[pale tapir]

congrats on the W mistake
keep saving and don't touch the gacha if you value your ability to get new ops

[ancient wind]

Also, who should I focus next?

As a side note, I have Ethan but I don't really know if he'd be a good fit for my main squad (check favorites for main). Should I use the instant E2 Max voucher on him anyways?
https://www.krooster.com/u/commanderketchup

[vocal rapids]

I’m saving up for silver ash alter

[pale tapir]

blud lookin a little abandoned

[ancient wind]

So Tragodia, then

[lyric lagoon]

so not only can en not read, en can’t do simple math 💔

[shadow bay]

seems like ur dps kinda on barebone, that u might actually invest to naran and pozy first

trag can be used at e1 till he get his turn for e2

u only have sakiko as the dps atm so.. uhh

[dusk cobalt]

is there any reason to get m3 on raidian's s1?

[frozen echo]

its free

[pale tapir]

surtr and teq too

[ancient current]

yeah for ed1 it can help
also f1 shop rob though idt it requires m3 and it's doable at e1

and anyways it's free

[undone portal]

youll m3 her s1 before her other skills regardless because of the unlock conditions
it gets used for f1 shop and ed1 yi fight

[ancient wind]

Well I kinda use all of Ave Mujica as my DPS, but if that’s what you think

Haven’t really used Narantuya all that much.

[undone portal]

e1 s1 doesnt have a cycle that prevents leaking at least one lancer, so be ready to lose a few lp on f1 shop rob. small sacrifice for the early snowball tho

[dusk cobalt]

er, ig ill get s1m3 when more rewards are given

[ancient current]

ah ic

[limpid yarrow]

shop rob after dlc1 🥀

[dusk cobalt]

i have her s2 and s3 m3 already and mod3

[pale tapir]

naran is nice, would be worthwhile for you
your other e1 6* are kinda low priority e2 tbh

[limpid yarrow]

you wanna save the shop since the 2nd shop always sells whistle now

[ancient wind]

Oh while we’re on this topic

If Dollkeepers aren’t considered DPS, then what are they?

[frozen echo]

laneholder kinda

[light latch]

Depends on what the dollkeeper is doin?

[frozen echo]

also ops in same class can fulfil different functions, so its kinda bad way to categorize them

[lyric lagoon]

zombies

[ancient current]

mostly baits or niche util im ngl

[short steppe]

[lyric lagoon]

they eat damage while doing their own stuff

[surreal sphinx]

can you even get anything else beside 3* from the 9-hour recruitments? I have 31 tickets and I feel I should just do shorter burst because I am not getting anything better than 3*

[ancient current]

check /rectags in #bot-spam

[limpid yarrow]

some tag combinations force 4/5 stars
that and sometimes you get senior op or top op

[ancient wind]

I’ve gotten some 5*s

It’s just low chance because… you know

It’s free

[ancient current]

outdated btw

use the one in /rectags

[ancient wind]

“Force” isn’t the correct word here imo because it’s entirely possible that the tags simply don’t get selected

[lyric lagoon]

if you need more details than this like operators inside a tag pool, then visit aceship in pins through puppiiz

[frozen echo]

I have not seen Top Op in 4 months I want Archetto

[lyric lagoon]

well good thing we getting a special surprise soon

[frozen echo]

yea im swiping

[surreal sphinx]

what does it even mean? If I dont have any of the good tags, do I just jam whatever?

[ancient current]

i mean what dollkeepers even are there
verdant is purely and entirely a bait + tank
bena is...also a tank
kaze is more dmg focused but her dps isn't allat (5* stats mainly). still nice though and mostly used for dmg, sure
iana is...iana (more utility based, reveals invis and yadda yadda)
umiri is just an ave mujica enabler, though her dmg is nice so sure
spalter is just an AH buffer

[frozen echo]

if you select combination you have a very high chance to op from smaller pool

[ancient current]

pretty much. since you're new, aim for 3* you don't have or just dupes if not. doesn't matter too much. once you get all the max potentials going you can start farming green/gold certificates

[surreal sphinx]

how do you get green/gold certificates out of these?

[ancient wind]

Duplicates

[ancient current]

4* dupes give 30 green + 1 gold

3* dupes give 10 green

[frozen echo]

when you have max pot you convert them in store

[ancient current]

at max pot for both obv

[wary vector]

back in is2 i use kaze as cheap 2block guard

[frozen echo]

@surreal sphinx bottom left

[ancient current]

you should view recruitment as a way to farm 3*/4*

for dupes, for certs

[frozen echo]

also as new acc you got get enough green certs to clear store

[surreal sphinx]

well, I've done 10 recruitments and only gotten 3*, was just wondering if I was doing something wrong

[ancient current]

nope

[frozen echo]

always 9h, DONT LEVEL YOUR OFFICE

[surreal sphinx]

they were all 9h and I dont think I have an office yet

[ancient current]

consider this:
you will get 3* like 65% of the time
4* like 34% of the time
5* and 6* like 1% of the time

[frozen echo]

its here and it stays level 1

[wary vector]

that's normal
6-star drop rate is like, every 1-2 months or smth

[surreal sphinx]

I mean, even 4* and 5* would help, not going straight to 6*

[pale tapir]

that's assuming you're running recruits constantly too
sometimes you can go a couple months without a senior op or top op tag
certain tags guarantee 4* btw

[frozen echo]

most 5* are not worth raising

[ancient current]

literally the graph we sent

[pale tapir]

yea was just about to say look at the rechord thing nora posted lmao

[hoary ruin]

If I wait to buy the sanity pots out of the Ch16 event shop will it make them expire later? Or is the expiration date always the same?

[rain forge]

same expiration date

[wary vector]

so TIL the burning tile from ch16 cannon counts as them attacking so stuff like mlynar/hoshi reflect works fully every tick
surely intended right

[ancient current]

i haven't started ch16 at all, is the cannon a physical entity you can kill or damage?

[wary vector]

yeah cannon is a mob

[ancient current]

well that means the DoT is sourced to the cannon so it's normal

[pale tapir]

haruka s3 can also levitate them
sadly her uptime isn't high enough to handle all of em all the time

[pliant valve]

which one faster, the caster bind my texas, or texas stun his ass?

[wary vector]

texas S3 stun still goes through even if she's CCed iirc

[pliant valve]

aightt, thankss

[waxen dove]

texas s3

[wary vector]

is it possible to teleport enemies into a hole with yu's S2?
like, cluttered so much some are pushed to hole kind of thing

[young glacier]

While it is not outside realm of possibilities we are not GemCraft, where you find that density of enemies

[pale tapir]

is this like the confess-47 MT boss hole strat

[ancient current]

this is like Shu teleporting Gardener invincible boss into the hole

[young glacier]

That was pathfinding feature and one of events of all times

[waxen dove]

should you pull on annie banner day 1 or exhaust your single pulls to check out your luck and go all in last day

[wary vector]

annie?

[ancient current]

anniversary

[young glacier]

I think he refers to this new 6* which i for love of me can't remember exists

[ancient current]

the more reasonable approach is obviously the latter. but god forbid literally anyone does that

[wary vector]

i normally do wait until final day to exhaust my pulls harder
ideally i aim to leave the lim banner at 0 pity

[waxen dove]

my biggest fear is that im gonna forget what the last day was and boom

[hoary ruin]

Technically waiting until the last day would be 'optimal' but....you also run the risk of forgetting to pull at all.

Maybe do half and half and wait until 3-5 days before end of banner?

[ancient current]

well, up to you

[young glacier]

Just don't be one of 299/300 people

[waxen dove]

true
it’s not like both of them are wisadel level shit so i don’t need them built so fast
i’ll pull on the last 2 days

[waxen dove]

ironically me in wisadel banner ( i ended up not getting both

[hoary ruin]

How many free pulls will we get on SA2 banner anyway? One 10 + ?

[ancient current]

around 35 like all limited banners

[waxen dove]

10+14+680 on average everyday so + 14 pulls so 38jsh

[young glacier]

1 10x and 14 daily x1 and event

[ancient current]

wow 680 free pulls

[hoary ruin]

ahhh so there'll be origundum from a login bonus?

[ancient current]

yes

like on all limited banners

[waxen dove]

our brains are umazing 🧠

[hoary ruin]

This'll be my 2nd limited banner >.>

[waxen dove]

good luck and don’t forget to save some for wang

[cursive maple]

3 months gap

[hoary ruin]

I have most of the side stories left at least, so plenty OP to farm there.

[waxen dove]

oh yeah you’re cool

[frozen echo]

most side stories are around 6 pulls

[modern gust]

are kernel tickets super rare to acquire if not bought?

[ancient current]

yeah we don't really get a lot at all

[waxen dove]

more like 9

[grizzled galleon]

Lowkey feels like chapter 16 was designed for a specific operator 🤔

Anyway was able to get to part 2 of 16-16 then died

[ancient wind]

Might be a question for #strategy if I'm understanding the channels correctly

[wraith shoal]

is there any chance we get multiple RAs just like IS?

[shadow bay]

next ra iteration is actually announced in cn, we dont have info yet as its only about to released

[wraith shoal]

do we know if it's gonna be just like IS where you can play the older ones or is this one gonna be removed?

[bright lake]

are story debut events still the most lucrative sanity efficient stages to spend sanity on?

[hoary ruin]

Once RA3's(?) playable on CN we'll know, but for now we have no idea.

[shadow bay]

should be former

it would be funny if they remove ra2 coz why not

[bright lake]

holy Magna has been here in a hot minute

[hoary ruin]

At least we'll have 6 months notice. I haven't had time to start working on RA. I'm finally caught up on main story at least.

[wraith shoal]

yeah true.I just wanna know since I've done nothing,so if it's going away I'll just focus on this instead

[severe crypt]

Ra3*

[hoary ruin]

Yeah...if the current RA is getting removed that'll be my next priority.

[severe crypt]

It’s highly unlikely to get removed as it’ll be like is, both ra2 and 3 will be playable

And just like is, both is1 and ra1 were ltm “test” modes

[frosty flame]

Besides quartz and apparently ethan, is there really no other red cert op worth getting?

[severe crypt]

Not really no, at least not any needed

[frosty flame]

Alr, a shame

[ancient current]

gotta save those red certs for module blocks and occasionally chip catalysts if you ever run out

[median fable]

I can push at most Caper for base reasons, but rr is fraud facilty

[serene slate]

Just opened the 2nd ending.

Any hints of how to complete the stage? What should i pay attention to?

Well, fortunately, i got GoldenChalice. Hehe. :v

Idk if it's gonna help.

[pale tapir]

you don't have enough LP to leak left side rip
generally you bait sui foot to mid and blast it from the right
remember that it will stomp multiple times in a row
you can go to tomimi.dev in pins and see the stage fight sim

[serene slate]

Oh shit.

[pale tapir]

left side is a bunch of annoying hitcount enemies and will kill you if you attempt to kill them without an appropriate hitcount op like ethan or ascalon or wis or whatever

[raven ermine]

Don't deploy everything at once
I hope you have at least a partial solve for left side
Bait it and burst it, when mid life everyone is retreated

[serene slate]

Is the SuiClaw has 2nd phase?

[ancient current]

what's ur squad

[serene slate]

Ok, wait. 🥲

[raven ermine]

No second phase, but it retreats your deployed ops when at 50% hp

[serene slate]

Everyone in the field?

[raven ermine]

Yes

[serene slate]

Oh wow. 🥲

[raven ermine]

That's why you don't deploy everything at once

[serene slate]

Here. ↓

Idk if Thorns passive gonna work or not. For those hitcounts enemies.

[ancient current]

idek if firewhistle can handle left
not without support, most likely

[pale tapir]

might need wis s2 on that
idk about downtime tho
might be rough

[serene slate]

Alright. But who's gonna defeat that SuiClaw if it's not Wis?

[raven ermine]

Your best bet is managing around half of left side and leaking the rest imo
Pozy/wis can burst the boss
You can use wis for both left side/boss if you bait it into the middle left tiles

[ancient current]

I- errrr...
ermmm
idk that squad is kinda ass im ngl 🥹
make it stomp in wis range ig, and use pozy

[subtle dawn]

Guys is there a better way to get the blue materials tell me why I be doing like 10 runs and only be getting 2 like cmon

[ancient current]

which material are you talking about

[raven ermine]

Because farming story stages is ass

[subtle dawn]

I forgot what they called but it's the blue sugar cube looking things

[ancient current]

cyclicene?

[subtle dawn]

I'm tryna level up silverashs skill and I need 7 I'm pretty sure

[subtle dawn]

Idk bruh the white cubes 😭

[ancient current]

uh yeah cyclicene ig
yep they're ass to farm outside of events

point in case

[serene slate]

Do u mean, my squad is kinda trash? 🥲

[ancient current]

er 🥹

[raven ermine]

Yes 🥹

[ancient current]

im afraid so...

[serene slate]

But, what is the SuiClaw att patterns btw? Stomping at the last op deployed?

[serene slate]

Damn. 🥲

[ancient current]

stomping at the biggest cluster of ops > leftmost ops > downmost ops

[subtle dawn]

So my only option is to drop 100's of sanity??

[ancient current]

green cert shop, or IS idr if it has some
but else yah

[pale tapir]

btw what is christine doing in ur squad
I'd rather have thorns or umiri or something

[ancient current]

oh oops mixed them up

[raven ermine]

Who is right there, i never paid attention

[raven ermine]

Oh gotcha 🥹

[serene slate]

Wait, wait, wait. Stomping like 3 claws at once?

[raven ermine]

No that's the priority order for where the claw will drop

[serene slate]

Oooh, ok ok!

[frozen echo]

RA takes around 10h to finish

[raven ermine]

I usually just clump with a raidian summon or smth, so i wasn't sure about the other priority order

[serene slate]

Idk, just got it from that 0 hope things, and take it. And also curious about the gameplay of Phantom's cat. 'Cuz i don't have her.

[raven ermine]

Pretty sure i can boot up an account and get through RA in less than 3h
If you know what to do, glowstick method is very fast

[serene slate]

Alright then, thanks for the help, guys! Hahh, i hope i can complete this shit. 🥲

[raven ermine]

gl 🫡

[boreal steeple]

~1-1.5h to setup, and other time is pretty boring glowstick buying and repeating

[frozen echo]

i spend 3h on setup on my alt, to have less resets to do

[raven ermine]

You don't need that much lol

[odd sky]

someone should calculate the least amount of time and loading save needed

[frozen echo]

resetting drained more sanity than just skipping days for logs

[raven ermine]

And even then, just skip days and farm the 120 wood node over and over with sending ops on wood gathering
I swear you're done with the setup in an hour or so at most and you still have like 1.5k wood

[boreal steeple]

There's also 80 wood nodes are pretty good

[frozen echo]

I checked if lvl4 had higher multi on score

[raven ermine]

It's both daycount and HQ level

[hoary ruin]

When you're choosing simulation debuffs for your squad, what's generally easiest to deal with?

Like how much attack or ASPD do these remove from my squad?

[subtle dawn]

I got my base to lvl 3 now do I just grind wood and buy glow sticks or is there something else that I gotta do? I crafted like a 100 glow sticks and only got like 2000 of the currency it's gonna take forever to buy out the whole shop

[raven ermine]

Yeah because you need way more wood than that
Are you using the reset method ?

[pliant valve]

ulpianus work just as fine without gladia right? i kinda don't want to waste my hope for drafting her. Aight, thankss

[frozen echo]

get more wood to craft more glowsticks per reset

[frozen echo]

gladia is free

[subtle dawn]

By reset do you mean getting all the wood from the stage and then skipping days until the season changes?

[raven ermine]

Drafting her, not pulling

[pliant valve]

yeahh, wrong wording on my side, mb. I'm currently on IS

[raven ermine]

No, i mean getting a ton of wood, skipping until end of "week" for a save, crafting a ton, getting points, and loading the save again

[frozen echo]

Load save after calculation day to save scum

[boreal steeple]

Reduced aspd since mon3tr exists, or sakiko second talent. Its also better for the phys dmg cuz of def

[subtle dawn]

Ohh bro I thought I would just have to grind wood and buy glow sticks until I have enough to buy the whole shop this would make it so much faster ty

[stoic nebula]

Blaze mod 1 or 2?

[hoary ruin]

Ah good point. I forgot about Mont3r's buff. Thx.

[wraith shoal]

was RA1 this junky that they had to remove it?

[raven ermine]

You'd rather not mod blaze, but if you really want to, modx

[ancient current]

mod1 and mod2 refer to levels here btw
we use X, Y, delta, etc. to refer to specific modules

she uses modX3

[boreal steeple]

And no questions about which blaze hmm

[subtle dawn]

Also how much wood would you recommend I grind before I start resetting?

[ancient current]

blaze2 only has 1 mod

[frozen echo]

1200

[boreal steeple]

1k is enough

[pale tapir]

have we seen anyone referring to modx mody as chi and gamma

[ancient current]

erm, no
though gamma has been said a couple times before

simpler to say Y anyways

[subtle dawn]

100 had me burnt out tf you mean 1200 😭 🙏 💔

[obtuse obsidian]

is there a difference between first option and second option in IS6 faceoff node other then candle stuff?

[frozen echo]

this or 24x amount of resets

[subtle dawn]

Isn't it just faster to get 100 wood and then reset that many times

[frozen echo]

have you done reset yet?

[subtle dawn]

Nah

[frozen echo]

it takes like 3-4 min

[subtle dawn]

Oh

[raven ermine]

Just go to left side
There's a node with 120 wood
I doubt you'll be able to clear it right away but if you manage to destroy the stone/pillar thingy you can send ops on gathering missions
Also craft a few harvesters and go to town deforesting everything for a few seasons

[subtle dawn]

Is there a video explaining this stuff in detail this stuff is too complicated for me 😔

[frozen echo]

can you vc?

[subtle dawn]

Yeah but I can't talk

[frozen echo]

Rhine Lab HQ and stream the game

[subtle dawn]

Oh I can't stream is it ok if you can and show me the steps

[heady ruin]

gng how good(or bad) is she.

[frozen echo]

dont use

[ancient current]

not worth it

[heady ruin]

💔

[pale tapir]

does she even see use outside of azling teams

[knotty wave]

just treat her as a gold cert

[raven ermine]

Depend how new you are

[ancient current]

I find her solid in 5*knights
honestly she's on the higher end of 5*
on a scale from tequila to sand reckoner, she's close to teq
I've used her before in IS (is4 ed2a she's goated to deal with imperial drones)

[waxen dove]

Is wang the lisan al gaib (is he top1 op)

[obtuse obsidian]

is1 and ra 1 were temporary events

kinda like a beta test

[boreal steeple]

Has no utility. But raw dmg is highest

[heady ruin]

scale from tequila to sand reckoner is crazy

[ancient current]

I honestly don't have that much experience with firewatch as i haven't built her, but her s1 is good since its cycle is so goated and she hits reasonably hard for a 5* while enabling you to tactically place her in tough spots without worrying too much
her s1 is giga long so it allows her to stay there for a while

main problem is her targeting system inherent to her trait, targeting dogs sucks. but it is how it is

[heady ruin]

so she's like somewhat like a gracebearer in the scale

[raven ermine]

You can't build her rechord, she's good

[boreal steeple]

Both are good 5☆, i used sand reckoner in my 5ops bear

[heady ruin]

mhm, I see.

[waxen dove]

who gives a fuckall about util

[ancient current]

ya but rn im building random 5* i like!

[boreal steeple]

Me. Those are the same people saying trag is top1

[heady ruin]

you could had just used radian and achieved the same thing 😭

raidian even ergh.

[raven ermine]

New players usually just see the shiny and flashy s2 and don't use s1
Then they think firewatch is ass because s2 sucks

[boreal steeple]

He's cheaper, and i banned 6☆ and e2

[heady ruin]

tbh it's cuz most of the time

for 4 stars and 5 stars skill 1 does absolutely nothing/generic shit and s2 is their actual skill, Firewatch is an exception.

[boreal steeple]

Also greyy2

[heady ruin]

oh I didn't knew he also was one of those.

[ancient current]

does that mean spuria is top1 op since i let her solo vec sp03

[obtuse obsidian]

tbf even if you use s1 average player wont see much use cause average player just overpowershit not cheese them with invis

[ancient current]

greyy2 uses both skills. s2 outside of IS, in IS he uses s1 more

[heady ruin]

hell, even 6 stars are kind of like that tbh, for the love of my life I can't name an OP that I have where I actually use their S1 with maybe Horn when there's an off chance I need to reveal other invis enemies.

[ancient current]

I can name a lot of 5* that prefer s1

[raven ermine]

Not really, even specter should use s1
The issue with 5* is that they are usually kind of a test field for weird mechanics and gimmicks
Sometimes they still end up being good, or at least, better, with the generic non gimmicky skill

[hoary ruin]

The only 6* I can think of off the top of my head that uses S1 sometimes is Leizi2.

[heady ruin]

isn't specter's S2 her main better gimmick though.

[raven ermine]

No lol, specter s2 is shit
Even in AH i run her s1

[boreal steeple]

Niche usecase s1 is common. S1 main skill is rare

[heady ruin]

oh yeah that too.

[keen hedge]

I've never used Specter S1 🤯

[obtuse obsidian]

saria s1 is the main skill average pleb gonna use

[heady ruin]

S1 is her actual "main" skill.
tho i use 2 since I lack Mlynar.

[boreal steeple]

S2 is niche(immortality), s1 makes her a bit better laneholding and no punishment

[hoary ruin]

Ah yeah, Saria does use her S1.

Any other 6*? I'm honestly curious.

[raven ermine]

You're missing out
You don't want your laneholders to "not lanehold" because they are stunned for no reason
And immortality, well we have a lot of examples proving this is very much not as useful as it seems

[heady ruin]

for firewatch I might end up leveling her cuz S1 seems cool to deal with some drone filled stages

[obtuse obsidian]

you are missing out if you are using specter anyway in 2026

so just missout more

[heady ruin]

that one victoria stage that I hate

[ancient current]

i actually plotted something a little while ago
blue = generally prefer s1 imo
red = arguments for both skills, around a 50/50 imo

[heady ruin]

well Gummy and uh...practically any guardian defender uses s1, irrc.

[ancient current]

hung uses mostly s2

[heady ruin]

can't you clear the stun with a therapist tbh?

[keen hedge]

I just use her skill by the end of the stage so she either defeats or is defeated or when she's low HP to rescue her

[heady ruin]

I'm honestly clueless as to why immortality is kind of bad since to me it's just extra time/stall

[raven ermine]

Weedy s1 is good, eyja2 is usually using s1, tho i prefer her s3, logos s1 is overglazed but still there, tuya too
Hoe for IS
Just from the top of my head so i'm sure i'm forgetting someone

[boreal steeple]

Cuz you don't proc 1hp often unless you have bad roster. And stun punishment can ruin her main role(laneholding) and leak

[obtuse obsidian]

greythroat is 50/50

cause am one of the 2 who use her and i use s1

[keen hedge]

Don't worry building 🛠️ Estelle for that gorgeous E2 art

[ancient current]

i actually tried something similar for 6* too but it is way less accurate because i barely use 6*

[quick jolt]

only lumen can cleanse status straight up

[obtuse obsidian]

miz is s2, otherwise fine

[raven ermine]

That's even worse then, you're bringing lumen in order to clear her self inflicted stun when you can just use s1, and lanehold just as well, without needing to cope other slots

The reason why immortality is useless is because if you really want to "stall" you don't even use specter in the first place
And the thing that bashed her head in has a very high chance of still being alive by the end of it
Same reasoning for zuo/skadi module
A second life won't fix the issue that made them die in the first place

[boreal steeple]

Isnt the gladiia s1

[ancient current]

this is for gen content
he uses s1 for gen content iirc
s2 is IS special no

wait if this is for gen content hoe is not s1
im contradicting myself!!!!!

[obtuse obsidian]

s2 is still better in general stuff

or at best its 50/50

[heady ruin]

I mean, I thought there'd be some cases (instantkill), or for just as a quick helidrop (since her masteries allows her to trigger her skill almost immediatly, I think), and on cases like CC, IS, etc rather than just "oh i'm fucked"

[boreal steeple]

Cuz hoe is IS unit not gen content fr