help

[gray mulch]

Better than red

[urban sleet]

True better than e2 red atleast

[native cargo]

i hve her maxed

[gray mulch]

You didn't need to do that just prefarm sash pram

[safe tundra]

kroos was an e2 angle at some point in the past (1.5 years)

[abstract mauve]

i still think she's a fine e2

[safe tundra]

probably because “shes easier to use than tequila” :terident:

[native cargo]

but i need aerial dps

to farm stages and get ops aswell

[pale tapir]

do you really

[boreal steeple]

Get second sniper

[gray mulch]

She works fine as is

[abstract mauve]

my points against tequilla had nothing to do with him being harder to use. the other guys made that arguement

[safe tundra]

why was that even an argument was still impressive or not

[abstract mauve]

tequilla just isnt needed early on and gets powercrept very quickly by competent dps. he doesnt even hold a lane alone early on

[native cargo]

yes this is what i thought aswell

[slim tusk]

that's certainly a take

[abstract mauve]

the "he has use in base" doesnt work either cuz shamare is kernel

[urban sleet]

Isnt the powercrept part true for most 5 stars if not all

[slim tusk]

he is just bubbling nonsense

[gray mulch]

Ya'll keep forgetting the argument is e2 teq e1 lapp vs e2 spec e1 teq. Teq is in both scenarios

[abstract mauve]

yes but krooster still is a good anti air even with you having your 6* powercreep. if you have a mlynar, you are very quickly dropping tequilla. while kroos2 still sees use

[rain forge]

[abstract mauve]

ye tequilla doesnt need more than e1 40 sl7 to function early on anyway

[boreal steeple]

Free dps is a free dps

[urban sleet]

I mean she can do that at e1 max too

[slim tusk]

i'll drop krooster first lol

[abstract mauve]

good for you ig

[native cargo]

is it possible for 5 stars to have more than 1 module did tht alr happened in the past

[abstract mauve]

never happened

[rain forge]

cough cough amiya

[tiny abyss]

-# Supreme Leader Amiya
None so far Iirc

[gray mulch]

Give it a couple years

[slim tusk]

krooster fucking obsolete faster than tequila

[abstract mauve]

for a new player no

[boreal steeple]

Spam vs skill

[safe tundra]

kroos can be skipped if you magically spawned exu2 or logos into your account because as far as im concerned we do not lack melee dps

[gray mulch]

You mean ranged?

[safe tundra]

no you need 6* if you want good ranged

[boreal steeple]

Even ranged melee 6☆?

[safe tundra]

what

[boreal steeple]

Melee that hits air

[native cargo]

i need 4 aerial dps should i replace eyja for amiya

[gray mulch]

What does kroos have to do with melee

[pseudo flume]

What?

[urban sleet]

Can i shill raidian e2 here

[slim tusk]

why do you need 4 aerial

[boreal steeple]

Use click. Eyja is better than amiya

[gray mulch]

Actually yes just e2 raidian

[native cargo]

for a certain satge

[abstract mauve]

which stage

[glass mural]

She's very shillable as a raising her is literally free unit.

[tiny abyss]

Is it skill books

[slim tusk]

like what stage

[native cargo]

S5-3

[urban sleet]

I mean they are a newbie so raidian has value for them outside of IS too

[boreal steeple]

Irl sanity instead

[abstract mauve]

you do NOT need 4 ranged units for that

[pseudo flume]

That doesn't need that much firepower though

[safe tundra]

shiled argued that tequila becomes obsolete faster than kroos because you do not lack options for melee dps where the general mobs are. the specifically tanky ranged enemies like vina drones on the other hand theres not much option without getting remotely good 6* so kroos can get handy here

[rain forge]

you need 4 ranged units for the skill book stages

[safe tundra]

thats unless all you do is borrow

[tiny abyss]

I just point Exu2 at the bluebox

[native cargo]

i need to farm 😭

[pseudo flume]

Why S5-3

[boreal steeple]

RA / IS

[urban sleet]

I am pretty sure s5-3 isnt a farming stage but let me check

[abstract mauve]

never farmed it myself so i highly doubt that it is

[boreal steeple]

s stage is always farm stage, just not optimal

[safe tundra]

S5-3 is what, the earliest crystal farm?

[tiny abyss]

Polyester

[safe tundra]

oh zzz. please ignore

[gray mulch]

Also just use eyja s2

[hexed adder]

T2 even more

[pseudo flume]

Its a Farming Stage

[urban sleet]

S3-2 recommended for that

[boreal steeple]

Ye

[tiny abyss]

Tell that to the guy

[pseudo flume]

The shittiest kind because Story Stage droprate is abysmal

Except for 1-7

[safe tundra]

is it at least listed as an okay alternative or just exist as a drop?

if latter, sleep

[urban sleet]

Only s5 stage listed even as an alternative is s5-7

[pseudo flume]

Its not in the Bot Infographic

Same braincell moment

[tiny abyss]

Whats s5 7 drop

[urban sleet]

Gel

[gray mulch]

Even the infographic stages are the last resort, farming story not even on the list is such a bad move

[pseudo flume]

Its for desperation

[urban sleet]

Desperate times need desperate measires, like the guy who started this convo dipped after realising they are being flamed

[pseudo flume]

This is why I question people on why the need on making everything be available on Autoplay when you don't even farm it

[dense fulcrum]

Y'all the orientiring says it ends at around 3:39 on 3/20. Is it on American time or Asian time?

[native cargo]

wat

[olive mulch]

what does hoolheyak is module do? I dont understand the description "hoolheyak skill will inflict levitate and damage an enemy and other enemy around them". So AOE levitate?

[urban sleet]

Nvm they are here mb

[royal swan]

It ends with the day reset for EN/global server so in 5 hours

[gray mulch]

I always end up remaking autos later anyways to update trust farm ops. It really is pointless lol

[dense fulcrum]

🥲

[urban sleet]

-# damn so much effort to trust farm, I shrimply drop them in actibity room and make them assistants

[pseudo flume]

The IS Module?

[gray mulch]

Face the consequences of your actions and farm IS smh my head why you farming gel from story

[urban sleet]

Its s5-3 not 7, its polyester and even then s3-2 is better

[native cargo]

bruh fk ts so hard ima just wisadel it

[gray mulch]

Oh it's poly?

[tiny abyss]

Wont the bombs hit Wis

[pseudo flume]

Levitate and Aoe Dmg

[urban sleet]

Wisadel for a ch 5 stage, the future looks bleak

[tiny abyss]

Since that stage has the bomb drones right

[pseudo flume]

Its been like that since her release?

[urban sleet]

It does indeed, circling bomb drones

[pseudo flume]

Just bait with Gravel or Yato

[urban sleet]

Dont ignore the first part of my msg

[pseudo flume]

I mean I've seen people use her for Ch 2 or 3

[urban sleet]

I think I had too much discord for today, time to dip

[pseudo flume]

[royal swan]

There's the guy who complained he couldn't wisadel a tutorial stage in ch 0-2 I forgot where

[pseudo flume]

Wis'adel is the greatest debuff indeed

[pseudo flume]

I can wait for them to suffer in TR-15

[royal swan]

https://fxtwitter.com/SUPAH_SUPAH/status/2009205641194426841

SUPAH 🇮🇹 🎅🎄❄️☃️🎁🦌 (@SUPAH_SUPAH)

Dude yesterday I was watching this Arknights stream on YouTube and the dude had a Lv90 E2 Wis'Adel in CHAPTER 2
︀︀
︀︀After, he got stuck on TR-S-2 for a long while and complained tutorial stages don't let him use Wis😭

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[rocky pilot]

I am putting wisadel on a fentanyl bottle

[robust pond]

How do I get my trust up. I have all the mats to M3 sakiko. But my trust is 75. I'm losing it.

[pseudo flume]

Base Assistant or Trust Farm

[tiny abyss]

Uh mod u mean
Base being RIIC Assistant/Activity Room and yeah spend sanity

[native cargo]

icl naratuya is better than wisadel

[robust pond]

Yep

[pine plover]

lock her in 3 different rooms in base

base assistant gains like 4 times trust of floor assistant

[royal swan]

• Control center -> base assistant -> top spot
• Activity room
• Control center -> regular base team (prob along with her band) so she's either in cc or in dorms when u collect trust

Apart from the base stuff above, use her in ur team when ur farming stages

[pine plover]

the 2nd trust collection is only for base and floor assistant

[mild wagon]

Farming adverse/standard doesn't matter right

[pseudo flume]

Also Reminder all ops get the same amount of trust, it doesn't get diluted by other members and 1 Sanity = 1 Trust Point

[pine plover]

base assistant actually gets more trust than floor assistant

[cerulean elbow]

Who does Mantra work with, alongside Tragodia?

[eager totem]

skill with charges

[gray mulch]

S3 works with any spammable skill

[cerulean elbow]

Like exualter?

[pine plover]

s3 with any fast activating cheap sp cost skill, not exclusively charge tbh, during heavy crowd of enemies

[pine plover]

there exists, skill with charges, with pretty costly SP cost
p-ass-enger s3

[eager totem]

heck u can even use tuya s1

[pine plover]

just kroos s1

[pseudo flume]

Godsengger Mentioned

There's also Tinman and Greyyalt S2

[pine plover]

john lodestar

[royal swan]

Pinecone sweep

[eager totem]

does anyone actually use chain caster

[pine plover]

oh right minimalist s2

[pseudo flume]

Who?

[pine plover]

stitch canvas

[tiny abyss]

Materialist Antagonizer or smth

[pseudo flume]

Welfareknights, 4★ Only, Yanknights

[eager totem]

who do they use

[pseudo flume]

Welfare and 4★ use That pink haired woman in Red Cert Shop and Yanknights use Leizi

[eager totem]

oo ok

[tiny abyss]

Pudding

[gray mulch]

Her name is pudding

[pine plover]

podeng

[tiny abyss]

And I thought red cert isnt counted as welfare

[pseudo flume]

I forgot about her and only remembered podenco

Was it Welfare or No Gacha?

[pine plover]

i thought welfare are those who are cursed with +2 base DP cost and -3 DP potential

[pseudo flume]

Both Niches are the same face of Poverty anyway 🚬

[tiny abyss]

Main story isnt counted as welfare deapite having the 3 dp pots

[gray mulch]

Seems arbitrary to me but it is what it is

[pseudo flume]

Weird Chinese Rules ya

[tiny abyss]

Also uh does doing adverse cost double sanity or not if u havent done standard

[pseudo flume]

Chen3

[tiny abyss]

Chen

[rocky pilot]

Chen live reaction

[pseudo flume]

Doubles Cost and Does Standard too

[gray mulch]

It costs double only if you haven't done standard

[tiny abyss]

Ok yeah

[lunar apex]

I think they changed that after ep 15

[pseudo flume]

It saves time

[tiny abyss]

Chen3 released last month

[pine plover]

was

[pseudo flume]

Chen2 is washed

Still useable but washed

[lunar apex]

exualt would replace her

[slim tusk]

chalter? no

[pseudo flume]

She was the face of Meta back then

Her dmg ain't comparable to the new Meta Dps

[abstract mauve]

narantuya is also kinda 1 to 1 better than chalter

[gray mulch]

-# But her new skin is nice

[pseudo flume]

"Afk"

[rocky pilot]

Deploy, done

[pseudo flume]

They use those because most ancient relics have those bozos

[gray mulch]

EN guide makers like to use old ops because most of their audience will have the ops

[pseudo flume]

Afk uses the most accessible for the majority

[pine plover]

they are getting replaced by new afk

[lunar apex]

Most of the old meta 6 stars can still perform well in modern stage if they are maxed out yeh

[tiny abyss]

Kyo with Afk Premium

[pseudo flume]

Lvl90 raise

[gray mulch]

I mean it's story afk not hard content, you can do it with low rarity

[tiny abyss]

Do vouchers count for no gacha

[pine plover]

getting out dps'd even at max

[pseudo flume]

Eyja is just Logos Atk Buffer 🤫

[abstract mauve]

anyone know if h16-4 has a 4* record?

[wanton meadow]

Maaaan give sash his +15 starting sp

Let him perform as a real helidrop HG

[safe tundra]

🧑‍🦲

this implies ines isnt a real helidrop because she isnt instant

[wanton meadow]

That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is sash is too slow as a helidrop

[abstract mauve]

by modern standards he isnt really a helidrop anyway

[safe tundra]

he has similar if not identical first deploy downtime as mlynar

[pseudo flume]

I don't see any but there's a Welfare one

[abstract mauve]

im well aware. fucking 9 op kms

[abstract mauve]

16-16 already forced me to learn the mechanics

[tiny abyss]

Thats 12 no?

[pine plover]

at least you can stack it with other relic

[wanton meadow]

Naw i mean like outside of IS, inside IS you can basically fix anything from an op's kit as long as the payoff is worth it

[tidal pumice]

Wisandel it

[tiny abyss]

Exu2 and Sash2 can give total of 10

[wanton meadow]

Sash2 gives how much starting sp again? I forgor if it was 6 or 9

[tiny abyss]

4

[wanton meadow]

Wait it's just 4?

[pine plover]

exu2 gives 6 or 7

[tiny abyss]

6

[undone portal]

i pray he gives more with mod

[tiny abyss]

-# 67

[pseudo flume]

Oh hey Ori, your now awake

[undone portal]

hi

[pine plover]

hi uncle

[outer ermine]

spoilers ?

[undone portal]

-# uncle? 💢

[pine plover]

check the event task

[undone portal]

^ event missions give you a pair of story-related items. this is one of them

[nimble kite]

Missions on Event Main Menu.

[native cargo]

when doing IS what supp op should i use if i dont hve good dpses

[nimble kite]

Wisadel.

[silver smelt]

Which IS?

[native cargo]

IS6

[undone portal]

when in doubt, wis'adel/exualt

[silver smelt]

Exu2

[native cargo]

raidan?

[undone portal]

would rec exu for is6

[outer ermine]

what's this for then

[silver smelt]

your prio is getting your own raidian proficiencies then just using her

[nimble kite]

For other EG cutscenes.

Just like the flag you showed to us.

[radiant wyvern]

what is that

[lyric lagoon]

item that allows you to see a secret cutscene after fulfilling conditions (aka clearing 16-19)

[nimble kite]

EG cutscene.

[polar pier]

Is this true? I see a lot of videos that include CE as welfare.

[lyric lagoon]

if I get yelled for semantics, can we just ignore counting welfare and free operators differently, cause like atp it serves 0 purpose

[haughty silo]

how many yellow cert do i need to fully bought HH ticket?

[lyric lagoon]

258

[silver smelt]

258

[haughty silo]

dang..
okay thanks guys

[paper gyro]

Did we have a shop event when chapter 15 released like we have now

[nimble kite]

Had.
The Ep16 one will also gone when event ends.

[barren dust]

is Mantra good
if yes, should I pull

[nimble kite]

Yes. And no.

[barren dust]

folk

[lyric lagoon]

pins

[true summit]

Naran worth s3m3 and new module ?

[robust thistle]

You'll most likely use her S1

Unless you know what youre doing with her

[true summit]

Does she need module

[pine plover]

not to the point of need, but it's a nice upgrade for her

[silver smelt]

if u dont have atleast 200 saved for sa2 banner then dont

[barren dust]

tears

[silver smelt]

or if you like her then pull

[neon siren]

Guys, pramanix alter req mod1 or mod3?

[pseudo flume]

💳🤫

[silver smelt]

mod3 if you use s2
mod1 otherwise

[pseudo flume]

Mod1 I've heard

[neon siren]

I'm m3ing s2, soo mod3?

[neon siren]

Mod in which skill

Is s2 her best skill?

[pseudo flume]

S2 ya

[neon siren]

So i should mod3 then?

[pseudo flume]

If you want but she's perfectly fine with mod1

[neon siren]

Okay alr.
So mod 1 okay

[pseudo flume]

Yeap, I asked that question back then for my to do list

[neon siren]

Hmm
Just finished pre farm for wis and sash2, need to see what I need for pram2

[olive mulch]

if i borrow someone's raidian, will the effect carries over? (like the -4 hope kn recruit, -2 hope promote etc)

[robust thistle]

Proficiency doesnt carry over

[ruby knoll]

I don't get farm event (one with no blue box), i am kinda really late and I have no idea how to farm for reward.

[inland steeple]

are any of the ch16 stages worth farming over the stages in this list?

[nimble kite]

Look, while event is on, they're all worth. Increased droprate.

[pine plover]

yet to be updated

[nimble kite]

Later they will drop down and this sheet will update to newer chapter.

[neon siren]

So right now any resources i need is better to farm from ch 16?

[nimble kite]

Should be, but I won't guarantee it will be better than event one.

[neon siren]

Kay.

[nimble kite]

But logically should. Maybe with rare resources will still a struggle, like Nodule.

[neon siren]

Gel, alloy blocks etc and all I'm gonna grind from ch 16 then until event over

[pine plover]

RMA-17 drought return from the dead

[nimble kite]

I will have LappyAlter and SilverAlter event for that.

Let me grind Red Certs for newer ops.

[split sphinx]

any source on the stage efficiency?

[nimble kite]

Refer to Penguin Logistics.

[valid violet]

wait even chapters get boosted drop rates for a little? i assumed it was just side stories

[nimble kite]

https://penguin-stats.io/

[pine plover]

huh, wasnt the giant bear supposed to have 2nd phase?

[split sphinx]

hmm this is raw sanity/item tho

[pine plover]

oh it just forcefully enter phase 2 when escaping for the first time

[nimble kite]

It has.
Inside one HP bar.

[neon siren]

He comes back dw

[pine plover]

that's such half assed phase transition

[neon siren]

LMAO

[pine plover]

[nimble kite]

You know who has more ass transition?
PRTS.
And it's fucking not triggered when HP 50%, but when dropped for first time and killgate, lol.

Which is pretty cheezy.

[neon siren]

The H stages are what are being referred to by extreme modes in the medals right?

[nimble kite]

Yes.

[neon siren]

Kay.

[brazen gulch]

literally

[thorny cape]

Does hoshialt survive rage mode of bear with a set of medics?

[robust thistle]

a lot of defenders do

[nimble kite]

Idk, mine E2-90 get squashed after attack 7 animations.

Hoshi Normal tho tanks easily. E2-60 ModX3.

[thorny cape]

Damn, alright. Thanks!

[robust thistle]

the wonders of maths

[lyric lagoon]

it wanted to throw rock

[nimble kite]

Btw, don't take the ATK+ risk, or she will die on 3 attack animations.

[split sphinx]

m*th

[lyric lagoon]

nian struggles off-skill/without mod

[kind igloo]

Which module is better for saria?

[pine plover]

dmg taken reduction

[kind igloo]

So module y? The one where it upgrade her 1st talent

[robust thistle]

just do mod1

[civic island]

Is Mantra worth pulling for or should I save

[ionic fractal]

Who can tank the kodiak bear?💔

[nimble kite]

HoshiNormal.
E2-60 ModX3 is enough. Don't take +ATK Bear risk.

[ionic fractal]

Wait she has mod now?

[nimble kite]

Hoshi
NORMAL.

Not Alter Breacher!

[ionic fractal]

Well i saw hoshi and assumed alter,mb

[ionic fractal]

Eeesh thats hard to find theres no normal hoshi’s in support anymore😭

[nimble kite]

I believe Cuora with mod also tanks easily.

[slim tusk]

i mean even cuora works,bear is a wuss

[abstract mauve]

what is implied with "even cuora"

[slim tusk]

it means what it means

[ionic fractal]

have to get my cuora to e2l40 then

[jaunty heron]

Does adverse combat give more chances to drop mats?

[nimble kite]

No, but it automatically consider Normal Difficulty being cleared immediately. And gives its rewards.

[jaunty heron]

Ok thanks

[hushed niche]

should I prio logos mod3 (mod2 rn) or surtr mod

[vivid yew]

Greetings, i need an up to date guide to catch up with the META, QoL, and new gamemode, i want to rush my progression before the end of April. Where can i find such thing?

[robust thistle]

what does that mean

if you want a beginner's guide its in the pins, roadless camelot

if you want to jumpstart your account, you can go to #reclamation-algorithm-hub and farm glowsticks, then grind IS monthly squads+deep investigation

[vivid yew]

Thank you, this is exactly what i need 👍

[hardy gate]

are we farming the new "event" or just clear each stage one time and farm the usual no event stages?

[chilly mulch]

I cleared chapter 16. Why do I have zero simulation score?

How to unlock h16-1?

[split sphinx]

redo the stages with the modifiers

[hardy gate]

need to do in adverse then simulation

[split sphinx]

adverse doesn't give any points

[hardy gate]

so we is there any stages worth farming here?

[robust thistle]

doesnt it cost 0 sanity

[chilly mulch]

So i did adverse. Which stages do i need to clear in normal mode to unlock H stages?

[split sphinx]

only cyclicene according to peter's sheet

[hardy gate]

simulation yes but if you didnt do it in adverse need to spend sanity again

[split sphinx]

based on cumulative simulation score

[chilly mulch]

Which 16stage map should i grind for materials?

[robust thistle]

none

[chilly mulch]

So i just clear any stage for chp16 and gain points right

[boreal steeple]

But you need to choose the simulation and choose debuffs. Each debuff = 1 point out of 2 per stage

[robust thistle]

you know you can get points from supply stages or any story stages right

are you talking about event currency or the simulation score

[boreal steeple]

Not really story ones

[karmic pivot]

is the event currency drop outside the new chapter the same as the chapter stage drops

[split sphinx]

do ch16 stages have increased droprates rn

[robust thistle]

pretty sure no

[boreal steeple]

Ye it shows a cart box 📦 where it gives event currency

[karmic pivot]

so I don't need to catch up to the chapter under 13 days to clear the event?

[boreal steeple]

Yes but in there's limited rewards for the first time clear of extra event currency

[robust thistle]

did you check that you can already enter the story stages now

[nova arch]

which ch 16 stage is best to farm

[robust thistle]

is none an option

[boreal steeple]

None, except one

[karmic pivot]

yeah but what if i wanted to go as the game recommends and play the chapter in order

[robust thistle]

then thats on you

[nova arch]

should i not try to buy out the shop then?

[karmic pivot]

okay that's a dumb question i can skip the dialogue sorry

[robust thistle]

the game already has the graces for open access

[robust thistle]

did you notice that every story and supply stage drops the event currency

[boreal steeple]

You get currency almost everywhere, you cant really miss out

[robust pond]

i swapped my entire factory production to gold bars. Should I atleast keep one on exp mats. I have 3

[robust thistle]

/base in #bot-spam

[dusk osprey]

Can someone tell me what happened and why enemy change targets?
https://youtu.be/J0pnJ5qVArE?si=5NcixyD6Tsq0UzDz

[boreal steeple]

Yes. Do you run 252?

[nova arch]

oh i didnt know

[robust pond]

I have no clue what that means

[rough tangle]

is it me, or ifrit hard to get as support unit these days...

[robust thistle]

because ifrit sucks

[robust pond]

Why on terra is base in bot spam

[boreal steeple]

2 trading post,
5 factories,
2 power plants

[robust thistle]

type it in #bot-spam

[robust pond]

Everything is 3/3/3

[robust thistle]

yeah no

[hardy gate]

is that cyclicene?

[robust thistle]

read the base command as I already said, it tells you the basics for base

[boreal steeple]

Yes but you shouldn't grind it too much. Use planner in krooster

[proven kelp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/969192347965456414/1483420294650531911/Your_paragraph_text_23.png?ex=69ba864e&is=69b934ce&hm=e3103a11c75362619751e6787b8bc046aeee45b8cc1e2f0573bf21759996d195&animated=true

Base guide under Beginner guide

[rough tangle]

well, exactly, but no one would give her for annihilation... what do you think i use instead? logos...

[robust thistle]

is this anni 3? the ifrit strat is literally 6 years old

[split sphinx]

clearing ch16 stages during event gives 3 t5 + 11 t4 just skip story if you don't want spoil

[robust pond]

yeah I'm gonna become a monk.

[robust thistle]

the "solo carry guide" has been redone to hell and back

borrow wisadel and be done with it, learn some skill timings too while youre at it, you'll need it

[rough tangle]

Annihilation 5 frozen abandoned city, and one is the dungeon sand dunes ones...

[split sphinx]

typhon probably the most brain-friendly carry for downtown

[robust thistle]

frozen city can be done with wisadel
long spring is logos S1

[boreal steeple]

You know who's even more braindead? Pram alter

[split sphinx]

pram alter isn't real

[rough tangle]

... hmm, let me see

[boreal steeple]

YOURE REAL TO ME

[bright lake]

is it just me or is uh, Sneg' s2 DP gen / cycling pretty bad for even that of agent?

[boreal steeple]

Yes

[lone valley]

Ye cuz shes quite dogshit lol

[formal shadow]

her skills are awful

[bright lake]

but shes hot.....

[robust pond]

I have 150 pulls. Should I grind more. Or am I good.

[bright lake]

how she hot but bad....

[boreal steeple]

She's kinda puzzle downgrade

[robust thistle]

entry number 43

[lone valley]

Cuz she is

[bright lake]

b-b-b-but she has ST slow lock... for like 9s lol

[urban sleet]

Doesnt hurt to grind more, its no-event period anyways

[robust pond]

Well... Going back to the mines. I guess.

[robust thistle]

sneg is so shit she cant even kill the mortar on AP5 at E1 max

figurino at E0 max kills them

[slim tusk]

e2 lv1 sneg can so e1 max should be able to

[untold spire]

If in event page there is something like this, i can unlock it only after i get some deeper in related story before?

[robust thistle]

it'll unlock eventually

[split sphinx]

grind more how

[slim tusk]

but idr my sneg pots

[robust thistle]

is it p1 or p6

[robust pond]

I have every single side story ex difficulty left. I haven't touched those yet.

[bright lake]

damn... what it is to be a new player

[robust thistle]

those dont drop event currency

[slim tusk]

pot 4 so no dmg increase pot

[robust pond]

I need pulls. Not mats. Maybe LMD.

[robust thistle]

clear the shop first, then do side stories

[robust pond]

Ok.

[robust thistle]

what do you think you'll need after youre done pulling with those OP you got

[urban sleet]

Smh I thought you had grinded out shop mats already go do that first before grinding pulls

[robust pond]

Op? Original poster.

[robust thistle]

aspd+5

also E2 has another extra +5 aspd

[slim tusk]

no aspd pot so er pot 3

[robust thistle]

then the +5 aspd is the breakpoint

[split sphinx]

I mean.... technically dead week (after clearing shop + ch16) so you are free to do whatever you want

[mellow flame]

is the chapter 16 skin reward permanently available to obtain?

[robust pond]

I'm doing chapter 16

[frosty mason]

do emergency sanity sampler have an expire date? if so how long?

[nova arch]

is the random skin for 2800 worth getting

[maiden thunder]

Fuh nah

[median fable]

just buy the skin you want once it drops

[median fable]

they shoud last a month iirc

[frosty mason]

i was thinking of buying them on last day so they last til sa2 event

[median fable]

or 3 weeks, I don't remember

pretty sure all of them have the same expiration date unless I got dementia

[waxen dove]

Surtr s3m3 is a good idea even if you virtually don’t ever need her in squad right?

[waxen dove]

they don’t expire afaik @frosty mason

[abstract mauve]

if you dont use her then m3 is a bad idea

you m3 skills you use in general

[waxen dove]

💔🙏🏻😴bro im already at m2
should i stop

[abstract mauve]

[spice patrol]

H stages available in 1 week from now right?

[waxen dove]

ya

[maiden thunder]

Last time I used surtr was IS4 monthly

[median fable]

all sanity potions have an expiration date

just bought one, it lasts a month

[runic willow]

How many units do you still need to upgrade?

Right answer is if not using then don't upgrade but I'd finish

[proven kelp]

Uh huh
Right

[runic willow]

About ch16, does all progress carry over to the regular chapter later? Which of the rewards are limited?

[waxen dove]

oh
mb ig

[waxen dove]

hoederer is the only one

[solar knot]

dose down grading for 252 makes that big of diff in base production ?

[waxen dove]

yes it does
the checkpoint part of rewards is limited u won’t get lmd and other rewards later
except the ending collectibles

[median fable]

you mean going from 243 to 252?

[solar knot]

maxed

[median fable]

it's not a downgrade but an upgrade in production
no reason to not doing it, the difference is like at least 15+% more production and more flexible

[solar knot]

but you need pov and tequil e2 right?

[median fable]

no

[solar knot]

anything works ?

[median fable]

252 is just better than 243

[runic willow]

What does checkpoint reward mean

[waxen dove]

footprints sorry

[solar knot]

but i dont undwestand how much workers i will need there is no specific rotation for that ?

[median fable]

and e2 tequila without e2 shamare is useless overall speaking

[solar knot]

yeah thats what i mean you need 3 e2 to down grade

[median fable]

what do you mean "how many workers I will need" or "specific rotations"

[solar knot]

like 2 worker teams for each

[pseudo gust]

Why can't I find chapter 16

[median fable]

ok, I still don't understand what's confusing for you

[solar knot]

there are plenty of combos but rotations are not specified

when one team is down for moral eg pov team then who will be working

[median fable]

1. you have more than one team per facility
2. staggering

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zYc2JU46X0XWmV7s1503bN4feRdOMa1eehrTQ2jGaiE/edit?gid=800801592#gid=800801592
read this sheet and the links that are there since you're clearly a newbie

[split sphinx]

you should downgrade regardless

[solar knot]

thats what im asking what is will other team ? random bs go ?

[waxen dove]

you can’t find it here yet
go to events page
like the first page

[median fable]

https://youtu.be/0si4HMQuYBo
@solar knot

[acoustic peak]

wtf? how come exceptional appointment doesnt give you the unit you dont own, but takes ur fkn recruitment anyways.
yeah you can just use them in support but i still lost a fkn recruitment

[maiden thunder]

🚬

[lunar apex]

you just explained how gacha works

[hardy gate]

who is still playing AK on mobile, can you guys tell me how big is it in your storage

[lunar apex]

16GB

[ancient belfry]

are there any sheet for recommended reading order?

[rotund saddle]

Hi, new to the AK discord. I would like to find someone who has fully built Młynar as a support unit that i can friend and I can borrow him for annihilation. Which channel can i do it in?

[lunar apex]

Just follow the calendar/release date I guess, for specific "region" the game already show you story related to it

[hardy gate]

dang it, I know something is wrong with mine, its almost 50GB!
46.94 it says
and im only using two voice lines English for primary and if no VA yet I do Japanese

do I uninstall and reinstall?

[inland steeple]

#friend-id

[lunar apex]

Sure why not, I think it might be due to the voiceline other than that Idrk

[rain forge]

16 gb

[rotund saddle]

Thanks 🙂

[lunar apex]

Des why are you french

[rain forge]

How did you only notice now

[hardy gate]

@rain forge am I losing anything if I uninstall and reinstall, its been on my phone since I started playing in 2020

[rain forge]

why would you lose stuff by redownloading the game

[pine plover]

this isnt offline game

[rain forge]

just make sure you have access to the email your account’s binded to and you won’t lose anything

[hardy gate]

idk why its so big, maybe legacy files

[lunar apex]

Maybe your cache is the problem

[pine plover]

nah, they dont do legacy files, all old side stories are playable as ever

[haughty obsidian]

jesus holy bear

[pine plover]

they still use the old content

[acoustic peak]

no for the rebuilding mandate, i used the exceptional recruitment but i dont have them and they didnt appear in my armory. but i can use them in my supports?

[pine plover]

15 GB is the average size

[bleak crown]

This mantra S3M3??

[hardy gate]

no cache is fine
its says user data

[silver smelt]

voicelines?

[lunar apex]

aight just reinstall it if you need more storage

[pine plover]

voiceline aint that big

[hardy gate]

just English and Japanese

[pine plover]

you can actually just delete user data and redownload from ingame

[hardy gate]

how?

[lunar apex]

"clear data"

[pine plover]

clear data button on the bottom?

it's your phone, why i know more about it?

[hardy gate]

ohh I thought you do it in game

[pine plover]

well, ingame you can also do it tbh

before title screen, there is clear cache top left

[lone valley]

Hi pookie
Whag if i use trag s3 with her s2

[silver smelt]

you dont

[pine plover]

[hardy gate]

will any of these options log me out?

[lone valley]

Was i asking you :realmad:

[pine plover]

well, ofc

surely you bind your account already

[ancient belfry]

Do Radian's summons all deal art damage?

[hardy gate]

I think so, but how do I make sure I did it?

[pine plover]

only the s3 does iirc

[lunar apex]

try login with your yostar account on yostar website

[hardy gate]

link

[lunar apex]

🥄 😔

[grave bramble]

What's this for?

[pine plover]

for secret stuff

[lyric lagoon]

secret ending after clearing 16-19

[pine plover]

-# and maybe stoning people

[median fable]

you can, but it's not the optimal choice. S3 is preferred since it can apply par way more times than s2

[lone valley]

Was joking mostly

[median fable]

stop baiting me :realmad:

[median fable]

dw, Ik

[lone valley]

Stop replying to it then

[raven junco]

Only up to 16-17 are the limited time rewards? I dont have to do more during the event?

[lone valley]

Why not do more

[echo venture]

even better stop making troll questions

[lone valley]

Who tf

[echo venture]

you already know what happened to the last guy making troll questions

[lone valley]

Oh herm
Hi

[split sphinx]

who is this last guy

[young glacier]

~~I don't, what happened to him? ~~

[raven junco]

Im doing earlier stories, now can you answer the question instead of answering with a question?

[median fable]

I think he's talking about puffy

[honest lichen]

i upgraded my trag to e1 I don't see the cat why !

[mighty smelt]

you didnt select skill 2

[tiny abyss]

Wait for skill to charge

[pine plover]

you didnt read the skill

[pine plover]

you didnt rejoin him in squad

[tiny abyss]

Yeah wait for it to charge

[mighty smelt]

in squad too because they never fixed that for some reason

[honest lichen]

is there a bar to check during battle ?

[young glacier]

In squad. Default affects only when you selecting them to add. It don't affect selected in squads

[split sphinx]

default skill doesn't affect existing squads

[pine plover]

literally the green bar under him

[tiny abyss]

It's the green bar, wait for it to become full (orange) and then you'll see cat

[pine plover]

also skill level smh

[tiny abyss]

The fabled

Is unhelpful a channel ban from here

[echo venture]

yes

[lone valley]

The whole help category

[echo venture]

not #tech-support tho

[tiny abyss]

Zamn

[honest lichen]

it depletes automatically

[mighty smelt]

thats s1

[tiny abyss]

Yeah that's s1, change it in squad

Man someone should really make a gif for this

[vital kelp]

😭

[mighty smelt]

6 year old game you gotta uinderstand

[lone valley]

Be the change you want to see in the world

[tiny abyss]

I dont have Ak rn

[young glacier]

As person who had issue with selecting right skill for like first 2-3 months I felt personally attacked with you instantly guessing

[mighty smelt]

[honest lichen]

like this?

[pine plover]

[young glacier]

Yes

[vital kelp]

a small step for kizap but a big step for humanity

[lone valley]

Nice grammar

[echo venture]

please don't make this kind of comments. you're not supposed to flame here

[honest lichen]

damn in my old account i never selected this option i always thought it switches automatically

[mighty smelt]

devs forgor about it 🥀

[abstract mauve]

pretty sure they didnt forget anything

[waxen flame]

how do I beat 16-10?

[gentle bluff]

Show roster might be helpful

[pine plover]

which one is it again?

[pine plover]

the miners will help alot if you keep them alive

[waxen flame]

https://krooster.com/u/sleek-tan-bee-34ii

[lone valley]

Wtf

[young glacier]

That's like summary for 70% of stages

[pine plover]

[waxen flame]

I thought they respawns?

[lament loom]

There's a reason why event mechanics exists

[abstract mauve]

yooo sankta miksa e2'd

[pine plover]

repurpose them miners

[gentle bluff]

Sir you have anything in your pocket already

[abstract mauve]

im not used to event mechanics mattering

[pine plover]

activate the device to toggle between standby and dispatch the miners

[waxen flame]

i just dont get the reflecting bugs and the enemy so many that i cant block

[waxen flame]

i just activate once and thats it? they go fight for me

[lament loom]

Ah yes, the classic counter to Wisadel

[pine plover]

yeah, the miners will clear the slug reflecting spikes

[abstract mauve]

tragodia kills them pretty well with his normal attacks

[honest lichen]

now its working thanks guys

[pine plover]

not if they are invisible

[abstract mauve]

they arent here tho no?

[waxen flame]

i dont even have wisadel...

[pine plover]

there is one toxin generator

[abstract mauve]

yeah on the right tho

[pine plover]

and that's where the unblockable came from

[waxen flame]

every single op i use dies to reflecting bug

[abstract mauve]

that thing is dead like 2 seconds into the stage

[gentle bluff]

Let the miner blocking the slugs etc.

[lament loom]

[pine plover]

isnt trapmaster mine damage unsourced?

[waxen flame]

what? miners cant block

[rain forge]

why aren’t you placing down your better units like blaze and stuff

place down medics too

[royal swan]

iirc no

[pine plover]

there is also passenger s3 unsourced damage

[abstract mauve]

tragodia. normal attacks deal with them

[lament loom]

They do block certain enemies

[waxen flame]

wait i think I need to read what miners do

[pine plover]

wang mines are sourced for the sake of yu synergy

[lone valley]

Cuz its e0 blaze?

[rain forge]

wang torchwood

[royal swan]

Some enemies get taunted basically and engage them, works on wraiths especially for this chapter

[gentle bluff]

Yes it does

[waxen flame]

whats wraith

[pine plover]

miners can block the unblockable

[worldly estuary]

Miners aren’t completely meatshields btw

[lament loom]

Gotta read! Like the unblockable enemy that only gets attacked by miners

[rain forge]

it’s chapter 2 does it really matter

blaze outstats fang unless fang is e1

[royal swan]

The unblockable guys from the early chapters

[waxen flame]

oh the running guys

[lament loom]

They do get healed by medics but it has lesser effect.

Event mechanics gaming

[lone valley]

Exactly that its ch2
Fang is fine

[pine plover]

they recover health when in medic range but isnt healed by medic

[lament loom]

Oh yea that's how it works

[rain forge]

[pale scaffold]

can cocaine bear attack ambushers

[pine plover]

umiri perished

[jade latch]

Guys, do you know where is the strategy to defeat IS6?

[pale scaffold]

understood

[urban sleet]

Rrad slug mechanics indeed
Also given your roster slugs shouldny be a threat at all

[urban sleet]

#is-station pinned guide

[urban sleet]

Yes

[worldly estuary]

Cocaine bear

[urban sleet]

I think "yes" thar is cuz he attacked my 0 block mlynar too

[idle furnace]

is logos better than mantra? i got him in one pull

[pale scaffold]

yuh

[worldly estuary]

One pull W

[urban sleet]

You can skip mantra if you got logos, save pulls for upcoming limited

[idle furnace]

ah tyty

[eternal pawn]

Is arknights down?

It's showing newtork error.

[ivory terrace]

try again

[robust thistle]

are you sure its not your network

[eternal pawn]

I mean, youtube is working, so it shouldn't be on my end.

[robust thistle]

well it kinda worked on everyone else

[eternal pawn]

It works now

Oh, I left the game open in background in the loading screen.

That's why it was acting up.

[primal zealot]

is sp cost the only thing i get from s2 masteries?

[crude sage]

Should I S1M3 Ines?

[robust thistle]

no

[crude sage]

May I ask why?

[robust thistle]

because she has s2?

[ivory terrace]

aceship has sepcific number on atk interval reduction

[pine plover]

more duration

[primal zealot]

oh right didnt see that

[tiny abyss]

m3 reduces interval more

[crude sage]

So S2 is better?

[pine plover]

mostly her S2 damage scale on enemies' DEF

[robust thistle]

yeah?

[crude sage]

????

[ivory terrace]

y will u use ines s1 over s2

[robust thistle]

why would you use ines s1

[crude sage]

AFK?

[ivory terrace]

u actually keep ines on the field?

[robust thistle]

afk is almost never a consideration

[urban sleet]

Raising bad skills just to not play the game is certainly a choice

[primal zealot]

the only time ive used s1 is in is when i have a billion aspd

[runic quest]

skip mantra?

[urban sleet]

This too ines is not meant to stay on the field

[urban sleet]

Skip regardless, check pins for more details

[crude sage]

thank you for your insight

[ivory terrace]

maybe to double up on her invis reveal but even then, i still used s2

[echo venture]

from this particular one yes. but it's not always the case

[honest lichen]

blaze is lvl 1 e0 and I don't know if ger damage is better than the kunai girl

[ivory terrace]

someone forgor "+1s duration" that was mentioned

[echo venture]

[tidal badger]

is exxualter spinnable on silver ash alter banner?

[ivory terrace]

not yet

[wanton meadow]

I've never seen someone call pulling spin in my life, but no not yet

[urban sleet]

Casino visitor trust

[runic willow]

you dont gain anything from chapter furniture right?

[urban sleet]

They dont rerun indeed

[ivory terrace]

just cosmetic ye
since ch release dun rerun

[steady tusk]

Is Sweep technically RI?

[karmic pivot]

what's the nicest thing i can get my hands on in this tag pool

[wanton meadow]

By technically do you mean ingame or inlore?

[steady tusk]

in lore, but also in game is nice to know

[ivory terrace]

r u talking ascalon branch

[wanton meadow]

Inlore yes sweep is under RI although not officially known

[west mantle]

https://www.krooster.com/tools/recruit - stick it in here, see what your options are

[ivory terrace]

50/50 suzu

[urban sleet]

Top op+slow should be 50/50 suzu

Alternatively top op+specialist js 1/3 weedy

[ivory terrace]

slow is alrdy 50/50
support adds redundancy

[urban sleet]

-# go specialist for aak gamble to aak your incompetent teammate in upcoming icebreaker event

[tepid thistle]

He can guarantee aak with specialist+support

[urban sleet]

Oh

[ivory terrace]

how gimmicky is aak 2nd mod

[honest lichen]

which 2 dps characters worth e1 ?

[robust thistle]

Aak himself is already a gimmick

[vital kelp]

un-e2 provido unacceptable in help

[robust thistle]

Follow teambuilding guide in roadless camelot

[ivory terrace]

to put it another way, is aak helidrop healing with 2nd mod even viable

[boreal steeple]

Click and kroos. Also tragodia is goated character

[honest lichen]

i dont have most of it

[robust thistle]

Pretty sure you do

[honest lichen]

how good is shirayuki

[robust thistle]

Theres also newbie voucher guide there

[ivory terrace]

e1 for base lol

[vital kelp]

good for base

[boreal steeple]

Mid, but it works

[honest lichen]

i need someone that can attack multiple enemies

[ivory terrace]

lava is cheap enough for that
or u know... trag s2

[robust thistle]

Did you read the voucher guide
Tragodia does that too

[pale scaffold]

what's the worst that can happen if i run medicknight in icebreaker

[urban sleet]

Get aaked

[pale scaffold]

idk if that's possible with all the medics

[robust thistle]

What would even happen, thats just called griefing

[boreal steeple]

Possible(to lose)

[urban sleet]

The target needs to survive the aak-ing to be healed

[worldly estuary]

Medic gaming

[pale scaffold]

i mean there's a whole team set for supporter/medic play

[vital kelp]

they go afk and u both lose

[robust thistle]

Idk sounds like a good way to get reported

[pale scaffold]

wdym, they literally made a whole system for supportive player, it's official yo 😭

[vital kelp]

its supposed to be a game where u help each other and have fun, not one intentionally griefing

like if ur newbie sure ill carry u but like

[pale scaffold]

you dps i heal 👍

[vital kelp]

do u really need to say that when like everyone here knows its bs

[ivory terrace]

medicknight be basically

• all incantation medics like reedic
• mon3tr n kalt
• silence for smol aspd

[pale scaffold]

ok how many incantation medics are there

[robust thistle]

3

[pale scaffold]

hibiscus, amiya, reedic?

[robust thistle]

4 with vendela

[pale scaffold]

unowned

[karmic pivot]

should i actually gamble for aak

[urban sleet]

that was meant to be a joke but if you are into bullying incompetent teammates sure, also you can guarantee hin with specialist+support+top op

[karmic pivot]

yep i want to air out exusia for stealing goldenglows aspd

[robust thistle]

What does that mean

[vital kelp]

cant everyone just play nice

[urban sleet]

sounds like skill issue, simply deploy a gravel or sth in her range

[pale scaffold]

deploy mlynar

[valid violet]

does ch16 have rated up mat drops for the event duration?

[vital kelp]

is GO-7 on event better than 1-7? if so by how much

[pale scaffold]

nuh ionthink so

[karmic pivot]

though i wanna know if suzu is better than nightgale if not i can go for aak

[boreal steeple]

Nothing is better than 1-7

[ivory terrace]

different purpose

[vital kelp]

thats not true

[urban sleet]

Iirc better for rock but 1-7 wins cuz of sidedrop

[ivory terrace]

but uh ig GO-7 because event currency -> manga/kohl

[pale scaffold]

rocks

[robust thistle]

That is actually true, because 1-7 has the best efficiency for t2 rocks

[vital kelp]

i have like 500 manga/kohl overflow

[vital kelp]

t2 rocks specifically ig

[urban sleet]

Do you havr haruka

[icy condor]

Should I or Should I Not, build Gladiia?

[karmic pivot]

nope i didn't get her in the banner

[urban sleet]

If you have to ask, no

[robust thistle]

I mean that also translates to better T3 efficiency

[icy condor]

Okayy, but her S1 works even without any levels right?

[urban sleet]

Go for suzu simply becase better gamble rate

[urban sleet]

If its for mountain border anni, lvl4 works

[karmic pivot]

how good is she

[icy condor]

Yes it is, okay thankss

[ivory terrace]

at least sl4 or smth
because increased force

[urban sleet]

Niche but like everyone good in top op pool is niche

[karmic pivot]

do i build her if i got her

[urban sleet]

You may have higher priorities but can build her indeed

[robust thistle]

I mean if shes not worth building people wont tell you to get her

[vital kelp]

i just checked, GO-7 is 19.2 sanity per t3 rock

t3 rock = 5 t2 rock, 1-7 is 4.82 per rock which is 24.1

[robust thistle]

Side drops

[ivory terrace]

efficiency number takes into account side drops

[urban sleet]

Yk I did say GO-7 is better for rock but 1-7 wins cuz sidedrops

[vital sparrow]

What is the requirement for amiya to turn into a guard?

[ivory terrace]

beat jt8-2

[vital sparrow]

Thx

[echo venture]

she has to be e2

inside the squad

[ivory terrace]

ye first time u attempt that stage u will have to bring her at e2. to unlock her form

[boreal steeple]

T1 rocks also exist

[vital sparrow]

E2 level 1 is fine right

[ivory terrace]

ye

[vital sparrow]

Thanks

[vital kelp]

u get 1 t1 rock per 50 sanity used in 1-7

[pale scaffold]

i see a secret thing in 16-13, what's the unlock condition

[boreal steeple]

Beat the chapter

[pale scaffold]

well that's straigthforward

[split sphinx]

Not so secret condition

[ornate vigil]

Whats the preferable skill for leizi?

[robust thistle]

2

[dry rose]

2 for mantra ?

[boreal steeple]

Leizi alt?

[ornate vigil]

Yeps

[robust thistle]

Pins

[dry rose]

oki

[ornate vigil]

Thankssssssss

[acoustic peak]

if in rebuilding mandate i get an operator im using as a support from recruitment its safe to remove them from the support list and they'll retain their current level right?

[icy condor]

I need to increase her range don't I?

[slate ridge]

Only if you have the operator in real game

[icy condor]

I'm trying it rn and she's lacking the range to pull the enemy, and I assume it's because I only have her at lv 50

[robust thistle]

Needs e1 then

[ivory terrace]

prob e1 for range yee

[icy condor]

Oh well, I'll try balling on it

ok so moving her here works for now

[robust thistle]

Isnt that where shes supposed to be

[icy condor]

in kyo's vid no, she's supposed to be right by spawn, pulling the enemy as they appear

[vital kelp]

congrats you just learnt to improvise 👏 👏 👏

[icy condor]

LOL

[steady kraken]

Mantra is so hot but I wanna pull of silverash alter 😣😩

[icy condor]

RELATABLE AFFFF

[round charm]

Is qiubai good

[vital kelp]

not the place to be commenting about that, try #arknights

[pine plover]

is that gladiia E0?

[icy condor]

...yes

[vital kelp]

mid/decent

[boreal steeple]

Decent, better at IS where scales from aspd, still not among the best but funny

[pine plover]

or in SSS with aspd stack

[runic willow]

Just get both in one pull?

[rocky pilot]

💳

[vital kelp]

just have 400 pulls saved up

any ways, can ulpian by himself tank steamknight big punchie thingy

[slate ridge]

If you have 2.7k x 3 ehp sure

[teal elk]

hey guys did mantra powercreep logos

[rocky pilot]

Hell no

[teal elk]

so fib lied to me

[rocky pilot]

I have a mantra owner pass right here with me I can say

Not the worst, not the best

[boreal steeple]

She's more conditional character while logos is self-sufficient

And logos better against higher stats and a bit debuff on enemies

[silver smelt]

wouldnt mantra be the better one vs higher stats

[haughty holly]

Me as I see 7k logos atk on s3m3
Yeah mantra def powercrept logos

[teal elk]

he said a bit debuff on enemies idk what that means wouldnt it make logos more conditional

[boreal steeple]

Its not condition wtf

[haughty holly]

Mantra also doesn't need trag s3 fr!!

[teal elk]

the condition for logos to be better against higher stats is a bit of debuff on the enemies unless i interpreted your sentence wrong

[silver smelt]

This makes no sense why would logos be better against higher res?

[haughty holly]

I think the fact alone that mantra needs trag s3 kinda make her worse no

[teal elk]

depends

[silver smelt]

Does Mantra not just not care about arts res? No enemy has elemental res at the moment

[haughty holly]

U lose cat for faster NI recovery

[teal elk]

trag is already very good so he wouldnt be a waste of slots

[haughty holly]

@teal elk @silver smelt

[teal elk]

yeah well trag is most likely already there making the condition null

[silver smelt]

If you do happen to have trag s3 up it's still 180k ST damage. making her out to be izumik oneshotter and nothing else is disingenuous

[teal elk]

he is not really a dead slot

[haughty holly]

Or... U can just logo s3 and still have trag s2

[silver smelt]

Kid named 90 arts res

[haughty holly]

Another kid named wisadel

[silver smelt]

Kid named 10,000 def

[waxen flame]

what is the improvement between mantra s3m2 and s3m3?

[teal elk]

ceobe is more efficient than both atp

[haughty holly]

Kid named monster/kal/ceobe

[vital kelp]

is it possible to get 56 yellow cert in 10 days

[haughty holly]

Uh

[silver smelt]

Elemental damage is literally true damage

[teal elk]

but trag + logo does more than mantra + trag?

[haughty holly]

Imo stall better than damage
Cuz stall leads to longer time to blue box = more damage to dish

[teal elk]

theyre the same thing

[craggy stirrup]

Whaaaat???

[silver smelt]

we're not even within the scope of the original conversation anymore

[random kestrel]

better skill cycle
didnt check the dmg numbers

[rocky pilot]

By doing 60 pulls or idk or so

And hope recruitment give you enough dupes that are 4* or higher

[waxen flame]

was 16-17 that hard? I found it so much harder than 16-16

[haughty holly]

Considering there's like 2 digits number of enemies that are immune to lure

[boreal steeple]

Nothing is hard with precision

[silver smelt]

If you need elemental damage chances are you are already using Trag s3

[rain fjord]

Anyone got mountain fully upgrade ?

[teal elk]

i dont

[abstract mauve]

definitely wasnt meant to be

[random kestrel]

i dont

[waxen flame]

or virtuosa or lappy + yu

[proven kelp]

Pretty sure Mantra will do more simply because Trag and Logos will fight each other lol

[haughty holly]

Or.. I can cat and get elemental damage after cat explodes

@rain fjord check #friend-id

[teal elk]

lol

[silver smelt]

And in the off case you are not, Mantra still sees usage for very high res enemies
See: H9-2 R25

[waxen flame]

although virtuosa is more like an elite killer

[silver smelt]

Also what the fuck do you mean cat literally does like 25k or some shit like that
Are you going to cat max risk enemies to death?

[teal elk]

depends on how much time cat is stalling

[proven kelp]

Logos is Necrosis
Trag is Nervous Impairment

Trag will always win on the Elemental Race, so Logos will do squat for his Elemental Dmg

[teal elk]

lower dmg higher dps window vs higher dmg lower dps window
tomato tomato

[waxen flame]

logos got the damage while trag is focused on cc

[haughty holly]

First one seems more feasible if no time limit

[teal elk]

stalling is generally easier ig

[haughty holly]

@proven kelp how goodge is logos s1m3 again

[silver smelt]

like what's with this mass psychosis of Mantra s3 doing 0 dmg outside izumik 1203812080213 bounces

[boreal steeple]

No. But usually just depends on usecase

[proven kelp]

Its okay, decent AFK skill

[nimble kite]

Will singlehandly trivialize Ep10 and Ep13 for you.

[teal elk]

how much dmg does logo do without his elemental proc i rmb he was miserable to use

[haughty holly]

sad I past those chapters alrdy

[silver smelt]

Logos S1 is an afk skill
You dont usually mastery afk skills

[random kestrel]

yes its miserable

[gentle gust]

can i still get end3 collectible if i do end of times in pathfinder node

[nimble kite]

Maybe HG will bring some maps with low HP shit spam for instakill.

[haughty holly]

Birds in that exu2 event
Funny as hell

[silver smelt]

End of times doesnt give rewards so no afaik
also clarity isnt that hard....

[safe tundra]

unlike most primal caster logos damage consist of both arts and elemental instead of exchanging either

[split sphinx]

Surtr tier without necro

[gentle gust]

its not abt clarity cuz im lowkirkenuinely fucked in end2 i have like no life points

[ivory terrace]

except logos isn't primal

[safe tundra]

because primal casters wish they have such damage

[silver smelt]

Now they do

[restive sparrow]

Question what skins are in this pool? Just the new ones ?

[silver smelt]

You say he has both arts and elemental damage as if elemental damage isn't just superior quality damage

[safe tundra]

..tap to view

[teal elk]

dont buy it

[ivory terrace]

u can tap preview to see list

[haughty holly]

Don't lol

[boreal steeple]

I mean its your fault to lose shields and not using tavern

[teal elk]

alway use default skins and currency for pulls

[restive sparrow]

Oh I’m blind ty XD

[gentle gust]

couldnt find tavern fast enough

[restive sparrow]

But gamba 🙁

[safe tundra]

sure id prefer 70000 sole elemental damage to a combined of 200000 damage

[haughty holly]

This is personal preference BUT best case scenario is u dont spend orundums on this

[teal elk]

not a personal preference buying skins is personal prefence
not buying is optimization

[ivory terrace]

2800 on random chance at ancient swimsuit skin, sign me up

[haughty holly]

Considering the outfit will return again anyways

[restive sparrow]

I don’t want them anyways but was curious what’s in it

[silver smelt]

Didn't i just say quality? Primal casters having low quantity of damage isn't the fault of elemental damage type itself Mantra happens to have good quantity of damage if conditions are met

[safe tundra]

why would damage type matters

[split sphinx]

The deal sucks. It's random and high chance of going negative

[silver smelt]

Because one is totally inaffected by enemy stats? I'd say that's a pretty big deal. Why does anyone care about true damage?

[teal elk]

200000k dmg > 10k dmg from debuffs

[safe tundra]

if a dps operator deal too low total damage than the current standard they suck

[split sphinx]

Who doing 200 000 000 dmg

[signal dragon]

lancet alter

[teal elk]

hyperbole but it really does feel like your operator got all their limbs off and blinded when theyre debuffed

[lethal sundial]

If i already have enough money, xp and materials to level up all the ops i need, what should i spend daily sanity on?

[silver smelt]

So, you notice how the line goes down?

[wind storm]

Roccs, or next ops or red certs

[signal dragon]

rocks, red certs

[safe tundra]

your point being?

[silver smelt]

#help message

[safe tundra]

bro

[lethal sundial]

How to get red certs? Also i thought getting onundrums is bad

[random kestrel]

depend on your priority i guess
can be farm orundum, pre farm future ops, etc

[wind storm]

Rocc=/=orundumbs
supply stages, the one with the pic of red certs

[ivory terrace]

base farming is bad cuz it takes away from getting lmd n exp lol

[split sphinx]

you need hella rocks for upgrades

[signal dragon]

ap-5 and I meant rocks for your ops, you'll always need rocks

[lethal sundial]

Does it make a lot of onundrums

[signal dragon]

check #r-i-i-c pins for ao guide

[teal elk]

cant stretch stats too much because you either compete with ceobe(always lose) or you just go do a diff strategy you have to account for hp and debuffs too

i cant believe drag went from bloodwolf cc disciple to asking where he could get red certs

[haughty holly]

At this point if u can't complete isnt it just roster issue

[random kestrel]

is it 3 pulls/week(?) not remember
and it will eat bunch of lmd and rocks
i mean really a lot

[lethal sundial]

Does everything stem from roccs or what

[silver smelt]

Yes but youre fighting imaginary demons here, neither of the ops we're talking about have low total damage

[ivory terrace]

just the ppl who eat them? need more of it cuz it drop often

[teal elk]

just farm that one rock stage 1-9 or whatever

[ivory terrace]

7

[teal elk]

7-9