help

[short steppe]

Not even Ling?

[dense copper]

try replaying the level if you havent or closing and reopening if its a glitch maybe

[thorny edge]

she's m9 pot 6 and no i havent used her in years

[quiet moat]

Already did both but eh ig I'll do it again

[short steppe]

Tragic

[prisma pecan]

It been awhile when I do main story event, is H stage open next week?

[dense copper]

if it didnt work the first time doubt it will a second but your free to try if you want

[thorny edge]

not rly, i got all the mileage off her when i got 6 copies in 114 pulls

[raven ermine]

Damn, go flex elsewhere you mongrel

[signal dragon]

bubbles can you do my sa pulls

[prisma pecan]

Thx

[thorny edge]

uh dont blame me if u dont get anything

[signal dragon]

it's ok we'll use amigo's credit card

[pine plover]

3 eben in 300 pulls and nothing else

[short steppe]

I nearly have 300 pulls saved for SAalter already

[gloomy sundial]

You need to claim the mission for clearing that stage

[raven ermine]

You're not planning to spark, right ? 🥹

[shadow bay]

ok but amigo already ded

[pine plover]

limited banner dont really have guaranteed outside of spark and 300 pulls consolidation reward

[short steppe]

I hope not-

[signal dragon]

hibernating

[quiet moat]

The mission only gives 2 out of the 4 thingy tho

And I already claimed everything

[raven ermine]

Did you check your depot ?

[balmy hatch]

Vigil vs sags vs bagpipe which one

[pale tapir]

sags?

[floral light]

saga

[thorny edge]

none of them

[signal dragon]

what's this even for

[quiet moat]

Ye, I had 3 and the lantern is missing

[pale tapir]

between cooked and washed, bagpipe helidrop tbh

[raven ermine]

Which stage is the lantern already ?
You can check PRTS, it has the secret ending requirements

[pine plover]

was saga even good to begin with to be washed?

as expected

[balmy hatch]

I need another vanguard besides my vulpis for stages where enemies rush when I have low dp

[pale tapir]

yeah exialt works great for that

[abstract mauve]

can i shill vigil

[pale tapir]

or surfer/canta

[pine plover]

nope

[abstract mauve]

but but but vigil is exactly what this guy is asking for

[pine plover]

get vigil's gay husband and think about it

[raven ermine]

What they ask for is a myrtle e1 lv1 sl7
Or a noir corne

[abstract mauve]

you make a solid argument

[signal dragon]

btw shileds what skill to m3 for vigil?

[abstract mauve]

s1. you wont be using s3 realisticly and it's even rare that I use it

[pine plover]

s2 and s3 are cooked since it requires the dogs

[abstract mauve]

but the only skill that can sustain the dogs is s1

[lyric ginkgo]

is it worth it to spark lappland alter or virtuosa on silverash banner? i dont have yu but have goldenglow, want more casters because ive been overreliant on logos lately

[pale tapir]

no

[signal dragon]

no

[abstract mauve]

spark bad

in the next 6 months there's pram2 wang and chen3

[signal dragon]

also pram2 is a good caster

[pine plover]

the best ranged arts dps already moving away from caster

[lyric ginkgo]

true, forgor she was on the banner

[abstract mauve]

literally top 3 arts dps in the next 6 months

[raven ermine]

Yeah you'll get pram2 and she's way better than goldenglow/lappalt

[silver smelt]

best ranged arts dps is a defender

[wraith shoal]

He can still get her if he's lucky no?

[abstract mauve]

we're assuming average luck so likely not
but if lucky then ye

[pine plover]

or you can get screwed and have eben off rate instead

[raven ermine]

If i get spooked by lappalt instead of pram2 i would be fuming

[abstract mauve]

sometimes average luck is quite lucky

[wraith shoal]

Average luck is how many pulls for a 6*?

[raven ermine]

34.6 iirc

[short steppe]

who else can you get on that banner

[wraith shoal]

Pretty low, expected higher

[silver smelt]

does anyone have any numbers at all for mantra s3 + trag s3

[boreal sentinel]

Luck is the only argument against logical pull planning

[raven ermine]

On the sash2 banner ?

[pine plover]

i cast misfortune

[short steppe]

Oui

[silver smelt]

err wisadel

[abstract mauve]

someone before said like 180k?

[silver smelt]

what does this assume? Single target? No bounces ever?

[abstract mauve]

ST total damage i believe

[silver smelt]

Yes, total damage assuming what 😭

[boreal sentinel]

Hey, not on me man, I need me my siblings (both pram2 n sashter and wang)

[pine plover]

W, Ros, Skadibard, Specter the Unstable, Water Elf, Texas the Homeless, who else?

[raven ermine]

Basically every standard ops + the old limiteds from celebration banners, outside of exu2 if i'm not mistaken

[silver smelt]

Huh alright thats not too terrible ig if youre already using trag s3 to block something might as well slap a mantra on it

[signal dragon]

wis, virt, lap, Ros, nearl I forgot if anyone else

[tiny abyss]

Plus standard yeh

[silver smelt]

the only good hit there is wisadel

[abstract mauve]

^

[pine plover]

it's still ass to use her against single target instead of crowd

[tiny abyss]

-# Add in Stainless turrets so it can bounce

[wraith shoal]

Only like 3 of those worth it for me,will probably get unlucky too

[boreal sentinel]

Isn't there ops that got removed from the pool already? And is just sparkable?

[silver smelt]

oh ofc but 180k st is pretty promising considering she hit 2 enemy at once and theres potential for bounce. 180k being the absolute minimum is good, is what i mean.

[short steppe]

Considering I already own

• Wis'adel
• Virtuosa
• Skadi alt
• LappAlt
• Texas Alt

Would it be better to get a pot or anyone else I don't have; if that becomes the case while getting a 6 star on the banner

[vestal sapphire]

yes

[pine plover]

i could get a 3rd muelsyse off rate for pot 4 tbh

[tiny abyss]

Erm no their rate up is just removed so they have the same chance as any other standard

[signal dragon]

the last 3 limited have 5x weight, the rest are still in off rate pool at regular rate

[silver smelt]

you can just keep the spark tokens for parashop btw

[pine plover]

standard yes, limited no

[boreal sentinel]

I do actually do that lmao and use puzzle to trigger the paralysis on skill gimmick of s3, it's some complex set up but it's funny, I don't even know if it works properly

[split sphinx]

holy chat clogger

[turbid ocean]

Please avoid unnecessary media here

[boreal sentinel]

Hmm, I see I see

[vivid yew]

I have both Logos and Mantra, if i managed to pull Silverash Alter before Pramanix, is it better to keep pulling or save?

[pine plover]

if you set up mantra s3 properly, your phone should die too

[tiny abyss]

Wait so the turrets can get paralysis

[short steppe]

[raven ermine]

Buying rosmo is an option, and if you have to go to 300, getting dupes of the 5* should net you a lot of certs back

[silver smelt]

i guarantee you nobody is bothering to setup izumik oneshot

[short steppe]

What about investing in more SAalter pots

[boreal sentinel]

I'mma go record and observe properly to answer this, brb

[pine plover]

they already did

[silver smelt]

save for wang pots instead if you really want pots

[signal dragon]

next notable banner after is Wang so you could pull but ask when it happens cause no point in hypothetical scenarios

[short steppe]

Is Wang the better op between SAalter and Wang?

[silver smelt]

yes as in the average player isnt doing it

[vital kelp]

why are people pulling pots

[raven ermine]

They meant if they have to go to 300 on sash banner

[radiant grail]

Is e0sneg tech

[short steppe]

[pine plover]

if your phone not exploding, you play the game wrong

[silver smelt]

if you go to 300 on sash banner then you either spark pram or if you already got her just keep for parashop considering they already have the copable sparks anyway

[tiny abyss]

What if pc

[silver smelt]

you do know mantra does damage outside the schizo bounce tech right

[tiny abyss]

Wait what's the range of s3 bounce

[pine plover]

inconsistent

[tiny abyss]

[raven ermine]

I would definitely get 5* dupes for certs instead of parashop tho
If you had to go to 300, that's likely 50 certs, unless you somehow didn't hit p6

[random kestrel]

uhh
you can dream its consistent

[tiny abyss]

Is it at least like s2 inconsitent or is it totally different

[neat acorn]

If I go above 200 pulls should I just go to the 300 pull point on the sa2 banner just for Wis

[silver smelt]

yeah u can also spark 5* but its kinda awkward at 75 each but whatever

[pine plover]

there is possibility that the bounce has minimum range unlike chain caster attack that cause it like that

[neat acorn]

[short steppe]

Im probably still gonna try and get the Pot 6 SA alter considering out of Wang and SA alter- SA alter seems more appealing to me and my playstyle

Ill still pull for both of course

[silver smelt]

if you can still guarantee wang its not worst choice

[split sphinx]

only assuming you're already at 200
100 pulls to guarantee wis is good

[raven ermine]

That's exactly 4 copies tho ?
I don't get what you mean by awkward

[pine plover]

75 x 4 = 300

[silver smelt]

i misread ✅ ye up to hwat you need then

[neat acorn]

Ch’en alt

[ancient wind]

Does the strategic simulation go away when the event ends?

[signal dragon]

no

[silver smelt]

is this a question

[pine plover]

3 ch'en still suffers of having whack modules

[silver smelt]

atleast shit module is easy to fix rather than shit character

[boreal sentinel]

It weirdly can but their attacks are considered skill activations so they still work

[raven ermine]

Well that's if HG is merciful

[pine plover]

well, the first chen has both issue

[silver smelt]

good thing were not using the first chen

[pine plover]

[split sphinx]

guard chen is good

[ancient wind]

Dual question

Is Mantra a limited operator or will she just fall into the standard pool?

And is Tragodia worht E2ing/maxing?

[signal dragon]

thx for reminding me of my mistakes

[silver smelt]

Mantra is standard
Tragodia is worth e2 lv88 mod2 s2m3 & s3m3

[signal dragon]

she's standard and yes trag is worth

[short steppe]

[vital kelp]

arguable

[sleek finch]

he meant chen 3 btw, which is still a guard

[proven kelp]

Trag is only worth E2 when you can reach his breakpoint, otherwise there's little benefits getting him to E2 since he stalls basically the same as e1

Note that in general content, it's not even necessary to reach breakpoint, it's an very expensive upgrade for very little benefit

[ancient wind]

And breakpoint is... what, exactly?

[sleek finch]

e2 82 mod3

[split sphinx]

Mod2 88

[silver smelt]

No, lv82 mod3 or lv88 mod2. the latter is recommended because modblocks
the breakpoint in question allows you to proc ni on any mob with 1 cat

[proven kelp]

Either Lvl88 with Module level 2 or lvl82 with module level 3

[raven ermine]

The breakpoint is basically when you are able to proc his elemental impairment in a single s2 deployment, on any target that doesn't have Eres

[vital kelp]

ch3n is overhyped

kinda feel like the same situation as logos tbf, in the same banner as a really goated char while being pretty good and overhyped to be the same level or near

[boreal sentinel]

The bounce does work properly, the turrets does get paralysis but they still attack due to the attack being a skill, not an attack, so, yea, that's interesting

[ancient wind]

Oh, so breakpoint refers to any status effect op

[vital kelp]

maybe im underlooking logos but idk, he just doesnt feel that meta

[silver smelt]

I wouldnt really say ch3n or logos are overhyped lol. Logos was the best caster by far at the time and still holds up damage-wise today.

[sleek finch]

its simply because for elemental ops, a single stat point can be a difference of procing 1 second less

[astral thorn]

Where do we spend flint? Do we need to beat ch 15 first?

[random kestrel]

yes it is
the different is logos far better compared to any other caster
the context is caster only

[boreal sentinel]

The time he came out, he's pretty much a golden child of roll compression being the best afk, dps, and elemental caster with a side niche of ignoring enemy projectile mechanics with s3

[proven kelp]

It's only important for Trag because he his cat can only hit for so many times and he cannot do a follow up so you want to get as much benefit for each cat

[unborn kayak]

any of the new stages worth farming?

[raven ermine]

Breakpoint is a term we're using to refer to thresholds in investment allowing you to reach certain milestones
In tragodia's case, it's not needing to deploy a second cat to proc the effect on a boss

[heady ruin]

whats the secret end requirment of 16-13?

I sure hope it is not keeping all miners alive

[raven ermine]

"Leaking" a miner

[pine plover]

CN folks actually didnt expect him to be playable because as NPC his name is written in english alphabet

[heady ruin]

I'm confused.

[silver smelt]

keep atleast 1 aliven then he go blue box

[raven ermine]

You just need to have a miner enter the blue box

[fiery swift]

Which skill for vulpisfoglia

[pale tapir]

3
she only has one skill

[heady ruin]

aaaah, right

so stalling opposed to killing everyone

I just completed the stage so quickly I didn't even realize they could get to the blue box LOL

[raven ermine]

Just let them break the pollution thingies and they'll complete the objective on their own

[pine plover]

they could also enter red box depending of the stage

[random kestrel]

me too actually
but somehow he made it
maybe caster being shit for a long time hg decide to release him from npc jail just to keep caster being relevant

[fiery swift]

Is vulpisfoglia a good like lane holder?

[vital kelp]

As good as a vanguard can be yeah

[astral thorn]

How do we unlock the flint shop?

[fiery swift]

Alr thanks

[random kestrel]

better mountain if you want me to shill vulpis

[pine plover]

it's like top right on chapter 16

[astral thorn]

Oh so you need to beat ch 15?

[pine plover]

or under the event task in event menu

[fiery swift]

The new caster good?

[astral thorn]

Where's event menu?

[raven ermine]

Don't pull, you're broke

[fiery swift]

Lol ik

[astral thorn]

Ooohhh nm I found it

[pine plover]

[ancient wind]

So I won't be able to E2 Tragodia anytime soon. What's the best level he can be at for E1?

[raven ermine]

Just e1 50 ish, can even be slightly less if you're really broke
What's important is sl7

[ancient wind]

Already done. He's E1 50 sl7. Just making sure

[pine plover]

could play IS if you need more LMD

[raven ermine]

As fae said, breakpoints are not really impactful for general content, and expensive for what it would actually bring to your roster
Don't sweat it for now, you'll bother with that later

[pine plover]

speaking of which, what to m3 after ray s3?

[robust thistle]

Why wouks you do her other skills

[ancient wind]

Either way, Tragodia's probably my number 1 pick for feeding. His S2 is a fucking game changer

[split sphinx]

feeding?

[pale tapir]

s1 if you like pinecone gameplay ig

[teal latch]

See invis... SilverAsh, Ines skill, and that Supporter who starts with a V skill, right? anybody else?

[pale tapir]

wiki has page listing every op with invis reveal

[robust thistle]

Tsukinogi, not valarqvin

[pine plover]

how pinecone ended up here?

[raven ermine]

If you have damage dealers, i would focus on those first
You already have the bulk of what tragodia bring to your roster, investing more won't be the best return on investment compared to like, sash e2

[brazen ferry]

How good is Mantra?

[robust thistle]

Pins

[pine plover]

Scene can have pretty big invisible reveal coverage

[robust thistle]

Deployment cost eater

[pine plover]

[vivid yew]

Is shamare rarely used in combat and more in base?

[ancient wind]

Kind of hard to tell who to build next since I maxed Sakiko and she generally carries the team.

[pale tapir]

ray s1 is used like pinecone s1
see enemy u want dead press skill until u run out of charges or enemy dead

[raven ermine]

Feel free to send your roster if you want advice on what to prio
Sort by rarity, or use krooster.com

[ancient wind]

I’ll have to do that sometime tomorrow

[robust thistle]

This you?

[ancient wind]

Nah, that’s a different CommanderKetchup

[raven ermine]

[robust thistle]

Pretty sure its not but ok

[raven ermine]

Well base slaves first in any case

[ancient wind]

Might use the E2 voucher on someone from the Ave Mujica band just because I like using them

[pale tapir]

are none of them e2

[ancient wind]

None except Sakiko

[pine plover]

[ancient wind]

Hey in my defense, I’ve been blasting my way through missions

[quartz plover]

Whose module do I get first sakiko or trag

[raven ermine]

Sakiko methink

[short steppe]

Sakiko and lvl 2 min

[pale tapir]

sakichan because she's washed without it

[quartz plover]

Do I m3 her s2

[pale tapir]

s3m3

[short steppe]

s3m3

[pale tapir]

fae forever typing

[radiant grail]

Chat is it better to keep sneg at e0 than e1 for is

[raven ermine]

You said saki and washed, they're busy calling the mafia on you 🥹

[proven kelp]

[ancient wind]

Alright then, before I go to sleep, who’s the next person I should attempt to E2 on ave mujica?

[quartz plover]

The bard ig

Heard she's good or the ambusher

[robust thistle]

Its the dollkeeper

[ancient wind]

Might do ambusher because I use the bard as glorified sakiko range more than anything

[quartz plover]

When kazu exists?

[robust thistle]

Mutsumi is the glorified sakiko range extender

[pale tapir]

mutsumi first before uika
umiri if you aren't gonna run mutsuika

[proven kelp]

Mutsumi and Uika wants E2

[robust thistle]

Mutsumi is a lot better than kazemaru, idk about you

[cinder hearth]

Aren't you just gonna use the ambusher instead if you're going for range extension.

[coarse notch]

when did you escape is central celeryi
i feel like if you're using sneg for her intended usage as 2nd vg and ball bouncer in chetto then you'd want her tankier to survive
but idk how the wish + rnf math works for her hp

[robust thistle]

Guess who the ambusher is

[pale tapir]

umiri

[proven kelp]

Umiri

[robust thistle]

Dear lord I mixed in the ambusher and the dollkeeper

[cinder hearth]

Umiri, Mutsumi is the dollkeeper.

[pale tapir]

[coarse notch]

great heavens

[tiny abyss]

Yahata

[pale tapir]

oh my days

[cinder hearth]

Chat, put him to the stake.

[robust thistle]

Yeah umiri is the glorified sakiko extender

[proven kelp]

I mean Mutsumi also has good range on Skill
Which is pretty frequent with how low her SP is

[ancient wind]

SO WHO AM I E2ING FIRST

[robust thistle]

Counterpoint: manual skill

[pale tapir]

mutsumi wakaba green one

[proven kelp]

Did you not read what i said

[robust thistle]

I mixrd them up again 😭

[cinder hearth]

On the topic of the green-haired schizo, I can leave Mutsumi mod1 and call it a day for the most part, right?

[abstract mauve]

yall are kinda hating on umiri icl

[robust thistle]

You can just, not mod her really

[cinder hearth]

I'm just modding her for some extra stat bumps.

[abstract mauve]

that's what im doing ye

[robust thistle]

Dolllkeepr modules are frauds anyways

[abstract mauve]

spalter 🥱

[cinder hearth]

I'm using her for 4/5* clears so ime the bump matters.

[robust thistle]

Spalter is a fraud herself so

[abstract mauve]

im like 99% sure the mod stat increase will never matter

but it's cool ig

[cinder hearth]

It's a bit extra hp and def and notably a 15% hp increase in dollkeeper mode, I've made worse decisions for less.

[proven kelp]

Mod3 or fraud

[abstract mauve]

i agree with the worse decisions part. it's why i have mutsumi mod1 rn

[cinder hearth]

She's a bit survivability focused which is kinda a shame, but might as well get mileage out of it.

[short kettle]

hey guys

[abstract mauve]

hey

[rough osprey]

How do I get rid of the bear?

[short kettle]

is mantra opie for us new player?!

[vital kelp]

hit them with damage

[cinder hearth]

Holy shit it's the #strategy guy

[storm grove]

what the flip is this

[rough osprey]

He kill me nefore I hit

[radiant grail]

Is there any benefit for e0

[raven ermine]

Just use a defender and a medic
Defense completely invalidate him

[cinder hearth]

Unlocks a secret cutscene once you complete the chapter.

[vital kelp]

lore item

[cinder hearth]

Easy answer to the bear problem is a borrowed hoshiguma/cuora. Either works, either facetanks fine with a healer.

[coarse notch]

its just the 2 dp cost no? on a non sescort operator too
by the time you're drafting sneg are you really still dp starved? i dont play chetto so...
go ask mei or bait or something why is bro asking the bums in ako
i dont want to be responsible for perma account damage

[short steppe]

[opaque remnant]

What about using hoshi2 S1 since it significantly increases her defense once it’s activated

[short steppe]

Am I mis-remembering something but isnt there another || Monster Hunter Collab || Coming?

[tiny abyss]

What's this 'occupied structure' in Mantra second baseskill

[raven ermine]

Basically any facility

[raven ermine]

Yes, there is
We still have no tangible news about it tho

[cinder hearth]

Good luck keeping her alive until it pops. Unless Haruka or a good burst healer goes down early, my bet is she explodes before or shortly after reaching the 15 hit threshold.

[tiny abyss]

Occupied facility then
John Yostar tl smh

[tacit anvil]

best to farm for event? 1-7?

[coarse notch]

skillfully aak her to charge s1

[short steppe]

Just making sure

[tiny abyss]

Does it include activity room

[cinder hearth]

"Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power" ahh strategy.

[raven ermine]

I don't know, but if i had to guess, it does not
You reach 10 without those anyway, just... dont have empty facilities, but that's the norm

[tiny abyss]

Yeah Ik the 10 cap just wanna know so if I do weird stuff it includes the 6

[mystic badger]

We have to skip Mantra, huh? 😞

[raven ermine]

Mantra for base is not really usable for now anyway
We don't have enough elite ops, and uh, they're not very good in base for the most part

[tiny abyss]

Isnt she 45%

[raven ermine]

In theory
But you can't reach it

[tiny abyss]

Huh what

[vital kelp]

u dont have to

its just recommended to do so

[raven ermine]

Oh did we get the hg special for mantra's base skill ?

[mystic badger]

Yeah... I have 257 pulls, so it's tempting.

[raven ermine]

Did they not specify we need elite ops in game ?

[tiny abyss]

John Yostar TL vro

[raven ermine]

Another banger

[tiny abyss]

Ok yeah she sucks

[opal remnant]

who should i build first saria or suzuran? ps: for saria when i do afk team 5* guardian sometimes died when damage is too much ps2:for suzuran cuz s2 for afk and slow+fragile from s3.

[cinder hearth]

Frankly speaking, if you're not interested in the next rotation of ops (mainly the Silverash duo) you probably can afford to blow some pulls given how far the Wang/Chen3 banner is.
This chat's just here to tell you the optimal method, which is technically to skip Mantra. What you do is your choice.

[pale snow]

Which mod for FedEx

[raven ermine]

modx3

[vital kelp]

why do u have the little newbie tag behind ur name

[tiny abyss]

Wiki.gg takes desc in game right

[robust thistle]

Yes but actually no

[vital kelp]

sometimes but depends

[raven ermine]

Oh that's not in game description ? If that's from wiki, they tend to have inaccurate info from time to time

[robust thistle]

They have their personal liberties on text

[tiny abyss]

So does in game tell that its for facilities with EO

[raven ermine]

Missing caster chips, so i can't tell you rn

[tiny abyss]

Cant you uh see on the banner preview her e2

Idr if it contains baseskill

[light latch]

its the wiki that's wrong here

[raven ermine]

Oh yeah you can
Ingame it's accurate

[cinder hearth]

I leave and rejoin this server on a whim. Every time I rejoin, I'll keep the little greenhorn tag for a few days.

[light latch]

Heres her ingame

[tiny abyss]

Oh so its John Wiki.gg

[neat eagle]

Any strat with this stage?

[light latch]

what's your current team

[vital kelp]

didnt u already pass(

[light latch]

they're asking for help with simulation i think

[boreal steeple]

Think of it or switxh to #strategy

[cinder hearth]

Well, I'd rather pick more fortbreaker mk2's over buffing the boss, first off.

[neat eagle]

Guess i'll ball it
2nd

[abstract mauve]

you struggling with first phase or 2nd phase?

[lethal chasm]

Guys I just got ulpianus, so who should I replace?

[boreal steeple]

Surtr

[wanton meadow]

Why is the surtr e1

[feral kraken]

hullo what do i pick

[lethal chasm]

Idk haha

[lethal chasm]

Oh you reacted to my post lol also thanks I'll switch them out and level him up, hopefully he was worth the 4 pulls

[boreal steeple]

All tags are ass sadly. Only phantom guaranteed

[light latch]

idk who you have but i would personally just full gamble instead, these options seem kinda questionable

[dense anvil]

is there still no vanguard m3 trainer?

[severe crypt]

Don’t think so

[wanton meadow]

Ulpi has been really good for my daily stuff, worth the m6 I'm throwing into him

[raven ermine]

Sash2 is a 90% m3 trainer when he'll release

[feral kraken]

alright thanksies I'll just go for the one I'd like

[dense anvil]

i am m3ing salt rn..

[lethal chasm]

Nice I'll level him thanks

[wanton meadow]

I thought he's 75% but i could just be stupid and misremembering

[raven ermine]

I had a suspicion it was for sash indeed

[lethal chasm]

I missed out on him during his banner because I didn't want him but I just pulled for fun and got him after the 4th try haha

[rocky pilot]

Gaze long enough into the abyss and the abyss will stare back

[dense anvil]

do yall reckon nasti s3 or blazealt s2 would be better to m3

[robust thistle]

Is neither an option

[proven kelp]

I'd do Nasti

[tacit anvil]

best to farm for event? 1-7?

[dense anvil]

er choose from this list

[boreal steeple]

Wouldn't use them, nasti has some supporting niche while blaze is another dps

[robust thistle]

Idk which one is and isnt M3d

[dense anvil]

they're all sl7 on the selected skill

[severe crypt]

You are pulling everyone huh

[raven ermine]

methink haruka s3

[sand grail]

Is there a way to know how many pull since the last 6 star from the previous standard banner?

[robust thistle]

I'd do bellone first

[boreal steeple]

I wonder why haruka s3

[dense anvil]

i ran out of good skills to m3 atp so im just raising whatever

[sand grail]

Cuz the last standard banner I pull was like 3 years ago

[severe crypt]

If that’s hoshialt s2, then I’d personally do that, I use it a lot

[abstract mauve]

haruka s2 likely already m3

[raven ermine]

That's what is implied yeah

[wanton meadow]

This bouta be one of those accounts with 200+ m9s

[severe crypt]

Would expect nothing less from Kermit

[abstract mauve]

bellone s2 should be pretty good me think

[lethal chasm]

Thankfully the eyes of the abyss were friendly

[boreal sentinel]

I think the verdict I've been hearing is like the Ines situation where everyone looked at s3 so much and disregarded them just cuz of that when the main skill is their s2

[outer hazel]

whos the best healer in the game?

[boreal sentinel]

IMO Haruka

[boreal steeple]

Ye bellone s2 has some usage against melee, degrading hoshi to s2 idk, others have their main skill

[outer hazel]

i see i see

[boreal steeple]

Healer - haruka
Medic - mon3tr

[raven ermine]

shu

[wanton meadow]

Ima ragebait and say gladiia

[vivid yew]

this may be a genuinely very, VERY stupid question

does unlocking the fit also unlock the operator (if you dont have them)

[frosty flame]

no

[rocky pilot]

Obviously no

[frosty flame]

why the heck would banners exist if that was possible

[vivid yew]

yeah very stupid from my part i am very stupid my bad everyone

[rocky pilot]

Ain't no way they gonna make you get any ops for 18 or even lower or higher

[reef sparrow]

anyone got aak real quick? Last aak post in friend ID is a month ago

[light latch]

do u need masteries or mod

[reef sparrow]

Just the buff

[abstract mauve]

do you need e2?

[reef sparrow]

s3m3 yes, just doing some shits rn

[wanton meadow]

Should i get the fire department on standby

Cos this sounds like overcooking is about to happen

[reef sparrow]

Exus#3092 for anyone or can drop yours too

[lethal chasm]

Should I E2 Ulpianus? And what skill do I use on him

[stable brook]

Can the boss be revealed with SA on p2?

[boreal steeple]

Mainly s3, s2 to cope as a blocker

[wanton meadow]

Both s2 and s3 are useful

[stable brook]

Or boss can only be reveal if there miner?

[silver smelt]

s2 is tank skill

[undone portal]

both s2/3 are good, but put masteries on s3. any situation that calls for ulpi s2 already works with him at sl7

[rocky pilot]

Permanent uptime or temporary but higher stats and also reposition

Your choice

[lyric lagoon]

s3 doesn’t have bad uptime btw, so only use s2 if you really need heavy laneholding

[boreal steeple]

P2?

[raven ermine]

And stun, and big dph, and iframes
S2 is just a poor choice overall

[vital kelp]

ok but afkslop

[lyric lagoon]

phase 2

[rapid oasis]

So i have Wis, exu, hoshi alter, and haruka
However, if i also borrow a mantra, would it make 16-12 easier?
Cuz I want to go for strategic simulation too

[silver smelt]

mantra does nothing in 16-12

[undone portal]

is 16-12 the bear stage

[wanton meadow]

I would even say the cycling isn't just not bad, it's straight up good

[iron dirge]

when does La Pluma fall off compared to Rockrock cuz people told me to use the Lv80 on La Pluma over Rockrock rn-

[rapid oasis]

Yeah

[undone portal]

unironically you should borrow hoshiguma/nian

[lyric lagoon]

just brick the bear

[boreal steeple]

Strategic sim can be done with that team, gl on figuring out

[rapid oasis]

Ah
The defense and dmg calculation

[vital kelp]

lapluma is better because shes phys dmg and needs the attack more, she also blocker so def and hp also helps

[dawn canyon]

In the context of like general usage can just throw onto a team how good is yato+texas alter still after two years

[lyric lagoon]

you could also do a funny cheese with mr nothing and exu2 if you own exu2

[raven ermine]

They're right
Pluma will singlehandedly carry most of story stages
Rockrock will not

[rapid oasis]

Woah
Nice job showing off your mind
I don’t have the energy so thanks

[formal shadow]

general usage? anything can go in

[vital kelp]

mr nothing second use case after IS3 knight erato permastall aaaha

[rapid oasis]

I see
The dmg calculation

[wanton meadow]

Can't fall off if you're never flying high in the 1st place

[light latch]

do u still need

[dawn canyon]

Ig just like how good of an operator they r n nothing new overtook the role they do

[rapid oasis]

That why I said, Tragodia
But I don’t know if you understood it

[iron dirge]

I just Lv60 Rockrock then?
just need a few more Ranged operators

[undone portal]

rockrock falls off the moment you own better arts dps, lapluma when you own a better laneholder
plumas the recommendation because having levels on your aoe dps helps for earlygame

[silver smelt]

if you have wis'adel you can easily beat the stage solo or together with ling s2 braindead

[reef sparrow]

yes

[light latch]

Lucent#2646

[rapid oasis]

That seems like a better help
Thanks a bunch

[wanton meadow]

Do you not have click? Atleast she's cheap to raise

[vital kelp]

they are both e2 i assume

[iron dirge]

what there really isnt any better Reapers rn?

or like 5 star Reapers?

[undone portal]

if you own rockrock i would raise her over click, rockrock has significantly better damage
click should be raised for is usage eventually

[harsh rivet]

thorns alter any good?

[vital kelp]

mid

[undone portal]

the better reapers are both 6stars

[boreal steeple]

All reapers are good tho

[lyric lagoon]

5* reapers, no, 6* reapers yes, even humus as a 4* is used in IS since 0 hope

[undone portal]

hes alright, very usable and perfectly average unit. one of the operators of all time

[crimson yarrow]

are any of the new mods good

[iron dirge]

Yep both are E2

[vital kelp]

theres more laneholder than just reapers

[proven kelp]

Meh
Mediocre

[lyric lagoon]

not worth building if you already have a solid team

[wanton meadow]

Notabene, nice base skill but that's already p ok at e0

[abstract mauve]

thorns2 is the perfect mid unit

[undone portal]

all the loopshooters ate good this update
execalt/eyja/raidian mod2 all suck unfortunately

[crimson yarrow]

Lol..

[raven ermine]

"No, not you highmore, go away"

[abstract mauve]

what ori said is quite accurate yeee

[wanton meadow]

+100 def gaming

[abstract mauve]

WOW ok buddy. i wanna see you handle exactly 70 nervous impairment every like 2 seconds in the same way that highmore does it

[vital kelp]

highmore is good in IS3 d18 trust, she have massive aoe huge debuff and good damage

-80 aspd is crazy!!!

[iron dirge]

it's just a bit weird cuz I got too many lane holders at this point LOL

But I still should use the insta Lv80 on La Pluma over Rockrock yeah?

[raven ermine]

I can draft non welfares y'know 🥹

[abstract mauve]

highmorb you mean. cuz she morbed into a giant jellyfish

[formal shadow]

they'd do fine. yato2 more so

[abstract mauve]

yato2 is still used in high end IS play. they are both kinda mid in general content tho. still very usable and good but literally just too much effort to use

[undone portal]

append for the new ops, since they have mods too
mantra mod excellent, vetochki mod nice if you use her, snegurochka does like the aspd

[dawn canyon]

Why is it too much effort? Is it just cuz other operators r easier

[abstract mauve]

if i wanted 6k damage on a frd cycle, i'd just use tragodia and turn it into 18k damage and inflict paralysis and have a huge aoe

[vital kelp]

how much dmg is yato2 s2 any ways

[dawn canyon]

I c its just i came back after long time so dont got anything new at all besides sakiko

[abstract mauve]

oh if that's the case you are in they are still plenty good enough

[crimson star]

Should I build logos or exusiai first, maxing out ascalon is too expensive and I don't think I'd even use her

[abstract mauve]

it's just more recent operators just have bigger numbers tied to them

[lethal chasm]

But I do E2 him right?

[wanton meadow]

When people recommend exu they don't mean the sniper one

[boreal steeple]

Ofc

[crimson star]

Ohh

[rocky pilot]

Ditch the exu and go for logos

[vivid yew]

Is it possible to get all the rewards or am i too late?

[robust thistle]

logos and ascalon, use ascalon s3 not s2, youre using her wrong skill

[rocky pilot]

Have you done max efficiency on everything yet

[raven ermine]

All i see there is 30k dps

[wanton meadow]

You can still manually grind the stages for 800 pts a run but ngl i find it insane to do that

[robust thistle]

and no you dont need to 'max' anyone, lv60 is the furthest you should go

[abstract mauve]

i dont see any reason to ever use this over tragodia

[vivid yew]

Only RM 1 and RM 2, havent cleared RM 4

[boreal steeple]

Still possible if you do max efficiency asap

[gentle dove]

If there's 5 days reaming, then likely?

[rocky pilot]

Max efficiency, then wait for them to fill up then collect, do them over and over again if not enough

[robust thistle]

you can get all the rewards in like 4 days

[tawdry lion]

What's the hidden requirement for main story 16-13?

[robust thistle]

just get the sensor and outpost ASAP

[vivid yew]

Isn't Ascalon main skill her S2?

[boreal steeple]

6 days isnt it

[plain hemlock]

He meant the other way around

[robust thistle]

yeah I mixed them up, the other way around

[gentle dove]

Yeah checked and it says 7 days

[eager hull]

Is s3 ever used

[robust thistle]

so niche its not even worth mentioning

[winter crystal]

it is cool looking tho (but no)

[raven ermine]

I used it once to gain 200
That's it

[winter crystal]

on a side note tho the mod Y she never uses can be used during this event for the spiky slugs

[rapid oasis]

Thanks again
It was a great suggestion

[fathom cape]

got mantra from a random 10 pull does she replace anyone here

[robust thistle]

no

you dont have trag so shes pretty much shafted

[winter crystal]

trag will replace necrass Banana when you get him tho

[strange tusk]

Mantra does need Tragodia to function properly

[wanton meadow]

Could use mantra s2 without tragodia but then she just turns into another caster i guess

[strange tusk]

Also because she is gonna get outclassed by Pramanix Alter

[abstract mauve]

yall are kinda haters tho

[radiant wyvern]

why didnt we get witchfeast rerun

[strange tusk]

I would pull for Mantra, but my pulls r lacking, so I have to sacrifice ;-;

[robust thistle]

sadly despite being a hot hag, doesnt affect her actual usage

[feral quest]

for saki 2nd skill if enemy has same def and res would her physical or art side do more dmg

[robust thistle]

how do they have the same def and res

[feral quest]

like on the info they are both B

[robust thistle]

thats not how that works

[random kestrel]

uhh
how it can be same def res? is my question

[robust thistle]

the letter ratings have their own range

[severe crypt]

N-no? Isn’t res a percent and def a flat number?

[wanton meadow]

Defense works with subtraction, damage dealt - def = damage taken. Res works as percentage, reducing the damage taken by x%

[raven ermine]

Just check on wiki.gg the actual values for each enemy
The letters can be misleading

[feral quest]

ok i guess in general do ppl use saki 2nd skill physical or art i am not gona wiki every enemy

[fathom cape]

RES is 0-100 for how much percent arts damage they resist and DEF is a big number like 2000

[wanton meadow]

You use s3

[robust thistle]

you use s3

[random kestrel]

ohh that
should go to tomimi.dev or something to get an actual number of stat

[robust thistle]

otherwise just do physical

[slender temple]

S3 has both notes, don't bother with S2

[wanton meadow]

S2's use has been really small even for daily stuff

[feral quest]

I like s2 cos i like try to have saki hit the other end of the map by linking her bandmates attack range

[robust thistle]

all her skills can do that

[random kestrel]

the same goes to all her other skill too yeah

[robust thistle]

all her attacks do that even

[eager hull]

Linking attack ranges isnt a skill effect its one of her passives

[feral quest]

yeah I know her s3 is stronger as boss killer but i just get her to snipe the lil guys so s2 is more afk

[robust thistle]

just say you like afk

[random kestrel]

[feral quest]

I like afk but also i activate wisdel s3 when boss comes out

[verbal tangle]

The event is the main story right

[slender temple]

You can pretty much use S3 on anything it's just that you don't want to time a skill activation

[wanton meadow]

The only time I'd use saki s2 is against nonstop horde of small enemies, otherwise s2 just really lacks damage to stand on its own

[winter bison]

What does this exactly do and how to use it probably?

[eager hull]

Also, is s1 sakiko and s1 umiri an ok combo before i get saki e2?

[robust thistle]

you attack it and it turns into an outpost

[eager hull]

Place it. It gets attacked by your operators. Then you can place on it.

[verbal tangle]

Your ops can damage it and it will be a platform for ranged ops

[winter bison]

Wdym by "attack" it?

[robust thistle]

you attack it?

[strange tusk]

Allows u to place cliff operators once u deplete it's hp

[wanton meadow]

It works, not exactly gonna be omega damage tho

[random kestrel]

to fill the empty tile slot

[robust thistle]

idk what you mean by what I mean by "attack" it

[winter bison]

Ohhhh so my operators attack itttt
Alright thanks alot for the help!

[feral quest]

generally i just use saki and ulpipi to afk the little guys and then wisdel and sutr can do the boss

[eager hull]

K thanks.

Im just waiting for another 200k ish LMD and ill get her e2

[wanton meadow]

With a little extra effort just sakiko and ulpianus should be able to kill the bosses themselves anyway

These 2 are p strong bosskillers on their own right

[feral quest]

yeah but i use s2 on them both

[raven ermine]

We figured

[hidden nacelle]

why is new agent bad

[strange tusk]

Needs Trag to function

[tiny abyss]

Erm

[feral quest]

I have both of their s3 m3 too but i just like having some op do afk and some kill boss

[wanton meadow]

Erm they're talking about sneg

[radiant wyvern]

which vigil module is better

[tiny abyss]

What's Sneg Trag tech

[rocky pilot]

4* mantra
Are we getting unalter ops

[slender temple]

How's the new 4* agent

[robust thistle]

hot

[proven kelp]

spicy

[wanton meadow]

Mantra the ursus fugitive bozo

[slender temple]

That's it?

[robust thistle]

yeah?

[rocky pilot]

Nice women but that's about it

[wanton meadow]

Sneg basically does not function

[rocky pilot]

Gameplay wise don't bother
I don't think she can do much in base either

[rocky maple]

should i spend orundum on skin voucher guys?

[robust thistle]

skins are personal preference

[raven ermine]

Take puzzle
Make him worse
That's sneg

[silver smelt]

base skill

[wanton meadow]

She's new BIS for automation weedy teams

[rocky pilot]

Your own preference
I honestly wouldn't waste my pulls on random ass skins on ops I don't use but you do you

[robust thistle]

if you feel like getting one random skin is worth 18OP in orundum, then feel free

[silver smelt]

when do h16 stages unlock

[robust thistle]

one week

[wanton meadow]

Bruh y'all are rushing

[raven ermine]

It's that or 1-7, so

[rocky maple]

fair enough, thanks

[silver smelt]

Also when do the squads get buffed in IS6?

[robust thistle]

expansion 2 iirc?

[silver smelt]

So right now it's best to stick wth class squasd? or are Sui's shadow/Perilous/Blooming flowers better?

[orchid ravine]

Hoshi2 skill 2 or 3 prio?

[robust thistle]

3

[wide zenith]

What’s the investment priority for Mantra? What’s her main skill?

[robust thistle]

pins

[lucid scarab]

Can u speedrun RM in a day

[robust thistle]

or watch storn's video or something

[rocky pilot]

Right what does occupied uh that word means

[robust thistle]

its for each facility with an EO stationed

[fathom hawk]

is eyjafjalla or smth good 😭

compared to haruka 👀

[robust thistle]

they do different jobs what

[abstract mauve]

what are we talking about

[fathom hawk]

oh. don’t they heal am i dumb 😭

[silver smelt]

think they mean eyja2

[coarse notch]

if you're talking about eyjalt then haruka is generally better

[robust thistle]

please dont just say eyjafjalla, thats the caster version

[fathom hawk]

oh mb 😭

ty 🙏🙏

[robust thistle]

eyjalt is slightly worse

I just treat them as sidegrades for range options

[abstract mauve]

is this a case of lumen vs quercus

[fathom hawk]

got it

[slender temple]

Can use both anyway (aside the fact that 1 of them in a team is enough)

[fathom hawk]

when would be the next opportunity to get caster ver

[wide zenith]

Is there a good guide for RM?

[robust thistle]

dont bother

[abstract mauve]

just comparing lumen vs quercus to eyjalt vs haruka doesnt seem fair. haruka is clearly better than eyjalt

[fathom hawk]

oof oke 😭 ty

[robust thistle]

eyja is so washed you might as well just wait for pramalt

[fathom hawk]

lmao oke was asking cuz her skins cute 😭

[robust thistle]

shes kernel so

[fathom hawk]

but ye im meta slave above all

[abstract mauve]

wtf meta slave

[fathom hawk]

[wary vector]

if you want to go pure meta slave then skin should never be in your radar

[abstract mauve]

there's a skin meta 🥱

[fathom hawk]

fax 😭🙏

[rocky pilot]

Swimsuit squad

[strange tusk]

skins r skins, they look the same to me.

[coarse notch]

a couple of skins cause atks to change by a frame

[strange tusk]

wtf

[fathom hawk]

[wary vector]

and those atks on the non meta ones so either way you breaking the meta slave rule

[wanton meadow]

Angelina/flatinum

[abstract mauve]

some skins change where attacks originate from as well

[coarse notch]

just you wait for the mon3tr skin that delays her s3 by exactly 3 frames and throws my is5 run

[slender temple]

Is it their coral coast that do that

[wary vector]

soon 120fps become the p2w game mechanic

[light latch]

skin moves the projectile spawnpoint over a few pixels causing it to travel 1 frame longer missing the frame perfect timing u need or something

[winter crystal]

imagine game ties ingame speed to frame rate

[light latch]

isn't it the opposite

[inland steeple]

for 16-13, ||how am i supposed to keep the miners at the start alive for the secret level? or am i supposed to do something else?||

[wide zenith]

Do we know how long until Ascalon will be in the shop? She’s one of the few recent ops I’m missing

[robust thistle]

we dont know

[coarse notch]

by the 2 year pattern she'll be in the shop near the tail end of this year
but we legit dont know especially this far out

[strange tusk]

Only time will tell

[wide zenith]

I see…I’m also missing Horn. Is she worth getting for someone who has most units?

[coarse notch]

no

[robust thistle]

no

[eager totem]

yo…about the thing that rides on your operators in is6
when does it only move in a straight line and when does it not

[robust thistle]

hitcount

[strange tusk]

Unless yr trying to like get all the Operators

[native cargo]

Can animated skins rerun?

[ocean mulch]

Had anyone done so

[robust thistle]

pay attention to the pathing the stage shows at the start

[coarse notch]

its pathing is preset depending on the stage

[inland steeple]

it has a set path in each level

[ocean mulch]

Sacrifice your medics

[slender relic]

can you not do adverse mode on ep16 stages on ur first try without completing normal mode?

[abstract mauve]

you can

[inland steeple]

you can

[coarse notch]

theres a switch button near the squad select entry

[slender relic]

oh i see it

[eager totem]

do u know where i can find all of the lvls

[tiny abyss]

Wait huh it doesnt consume double sanity

[crystal flame]

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to unlock my 2nd support character in my friends profile. Thanks!

[robust thistle]

level up reception room, ideally you dont do that

[balmy granite]

How do I unlock H16-1 to H16-4, I completed the entire story but those 4 stages aren't appearing.. I did the Stage:S but I dont see it still..

[vivid swallow]

how does new fedex mod compare to the old one

[inland steeple]

do strategic simulation

[robust thistle]

one week

[balmy granite]

we have to wait a week for it to appear..?

[robust thistle]

yeah?

[balmy granite]

i didn't know that.. i dont want to wait ;-;

[robust thistle]

its been this way for 6 years

[eager totem]

they can only ride on the things in their path right
not like they can ride anytjing in their surrounding 8 tiles?

[nimble kite]

Yeah. That rule is always applied.

[robust thistle]

well thats really not our problem so

[nimble kite]

Well, I'm afraid you will.

[vivid swallow]

^

[robust thistle]

bad

[nimble kite]

Shit

[vivid swallow]

ok thanks lol

[inland steeple]

what do i do to get EG-7 in ch16?

[inland steeple]

the secret level

[formal shadow]

apparently you have to clear 16-13 and 16-19

[ivory roost]

180 cert for 6 star or 258 cert to gamble mantra, whats a good idea

[sudden bramble]

it's not every stage that has challenge mode? i wanted to try it now but as i check it here on 2-1 it doesn't have much

i was doing normal history mode so i dindn't take a look on challenge mode until now btw

[severe crypt]

Well cm is a thing for chap 0-9, and all event ex and s stages, chap 10+ has the adverse system and h stages don’t have any cm

[severe crypt]

Latter cuz what 6 star could you possibly get rn that’s better than mantra

[drifting prairie]

How do I clear this stage, it’s so hard 💀

[robust thistle]

#strategy thataway

[ivory roost]

ayy 20 pulls in and granny came home ty

[thick dock]

guys whats risk ba for simulation, does it mean lvl 1 rhs, lvl 2 lhs?

[inland steeple]

man i thought i had to actually use my brain or something, i wish we could go back to act 1's way of doing secret levels

[silk laurel]

which boss do i need to defeat on IS6? to unlock raidians's new module?

[sudden bramble]

so, it depends on the stage?

[inland steeple]

you need to clear ending 4

[boreal sentinel]

Is Mantra a good start for IS6?

[sudden bramble]

and i thougt here "heh free originite" XD

[coarse notch]

hell nah

[boreal steeple]

Too far from truth

[robust thistle]

me when I cope s2

[fleet granite]

is there a ch16 stage i should farm during the event

[honest estuary]

Guys should i gacha on mantra headhunt or wait for sashalt

[rain forge]

are the supply crates worth buying in the event shop or nah

[robust thistle]

if you want something else other than mangoes or kohl

[rain forge]

I have like 130 of each is that enough

[robust thistle]

dunno

[honest estuary]

Uh what does ➡️ this emoji mean

[subtle dawn]

Is gavial worth using? Should I replace purestream or ptilo for her?

[rain forge]

the second option

[honest estuary]

Oh ok

[subtle dawn]

And also who should I E2 first, logos, silver ash, ptilo, or la pluma? I'm thinking ptilo cuz of the sp generation buff and I'm thinking La pluma cuz I'm struggling to hold the top right corner of saltfin graveyard and upgrading her will help a lot for it

[rain forge]

logos

[subtle dawn]

Okie

[rain forge]

don’t bother with ptilo or lapluma e2

[subtle dawn]

Oh ok

Who should I do after logos? I also use surtr, tequila, mountain, kroos, kroos2 and purestream

[chrome prawn]

Silver ash

[rain forge]

surtr and silverash

[subtle dawn]

Ok that's what I was thinking

[halcyon remnant]

What's the best mod for gladia? Or is she even worth it leveling up?

[runic willow]

Afaik no

The one time a year you'd need her you could borrow her
Ulpi works well without a abyssal

[rain forge]

abyssal hunters module but not worth levelling her

[chrome prawn]

The one that dragged enemy while dealing art damage

[subtle dawn]

I don't use surtr that much to be honest, a lane holder + logos is usually enough to take down every high defense enemy where I'm at rn in the game

[halcyon remnant]

Thanks guy 🙏

[plain berry]

should i build matsukiri

[robust thistle]

maybe

[rain forge]

If you don’t have another vanguard built sure

[boreal steeple]

Depends on squad, sash alter soon

[neat eagle]

How can i unlock this eg9?

[robust thistle]

is that not already unlocked

[nimble kite]

Check Missions on event main menu. I falled to the same trap.

[sinful tapir]

Hi chat. Naran mod lv2 is enough yea?

[rain fjord]

How to get the secret of 16-13

Also is mantra good ?

[cinder hearth]

Solid, but skippable if you're budgeting your pulls.

[nimble kite]

End the whole Chapter. You don't need to do anything special.

[cinder hearth]

Pins should have upcoming ops, pull prio, etc

[rain fjord]

Damn

[valid violet]

how do you unlock the secret for 16-18 and 16-19? i finished the chapter i think but don't have them unlocked

[undone wren]

Hello what does unlocking clue exchange does? Been doing it but doesnt really know the function because I speedrun for the mujica collab back then

[nimble kite]

Check Missions on event main menu. I falled to the same trap.

[valid violet]

oh 😭 😭 ty

[nimble kite]

After passing 24h, you get 210

[undone wren]

Ah aight thanks

[cinder hearth]

You spend 7 clues each time.

[fierce viper]

is there any good 4 star medic

[nimble kite]

Sussuro, Purestream.

[thorny ravine]

doing extra strategic simulation dont give rewards right? like no medal?

[boreal steeple]

Only adverse give, you can unlock hell stages for some medals

[sacred cave]

Should I build mlynar if i have alr built my leizi2

[robust thistle]

maybe

[urban sleet]

More dmg doesnt hurt

[sacred cave]

Would you ever use two liberator guards together?

[urban sleet]

There do be 12 slots in a team

[sacred cave]

Alright will build him ig

[sweet warren]

Is Tequila mod improvement any good actually?

[robust thistle]

are you playing *5 only

[sweet warren]

What's the % improvement? Or what level of mod recommended

[robust thistle]

you didnt answer the question

[sweet warren]

Let's just say I have every *6 raised

[robust thistle]

its a yes or no question

[sweet warren]

Yes yes yes.. whatever that answer for

[robust thistle]

then mod1

[sweet warren]

Does your answer would be different if I say no

[robust thistle]

yes

[tawdry aurora]

New grandma, whats best M3?

[robust thistle]

check pins

[light latch]

i would assume the answer would be something like "why are you even getting tequilla's mod if you're not playing 5*knights"

[royal swan]

If u said no then the answer would be to not get his mod and just use the 6* liberators

[sweet warren]

Though my actual question is what's the % of improvement so that I can consider myself lol.
But thanks I guess

[robust thistle]

you also said whats recommended mod level

[past wagon]

Wondering as a new account whether to focus on main story, side story (for more operators), or building up operators first. :V (and base, but that's limited by drones)

[robust thistle]

you can do all of them

[light latch]

improvement of what

[urban sleet]

Which tier mats does the crate drop again

[robust thistle]

should be t3 no?

[urban sleet]

I see

[sweet warren]

Of the damage. What else?
You know even with slight +atk... Liberator get good damage because how stupid the scaling is

[ivory terrace]

not as dramatic as u think

[robust thistle]

its a whole 28 more dph

[sweet warren]

Fucking shit then

[light latch]

this sounds like someone's just too lazy to look up the wiki themselves but ok

[robust thistle]

youre conflating liberators with 'mlynar'

[light latch]

his mod3 gives +25 atk and he has 352 atk, so about 7% more atk i guess

[solar knot]

where can i check base setups

[light latch]

#r-i-i-c pins

[severe crypt]

Surely we ain’t forgetting his trait right

[ivory terrace]

then scaled up by max 3x followed by atk scale of s2

[robust thistle]

its a whole 83 more dph

[ivory terrace]

mod 1 is also kinda in conflict with his charged s2 mechanic

[severe crypt]

But if ur playing 5 star knights, wouldn’t you want any and every possible upgrade to ur team possible

[robust thistle]

are they

[ornate vigil]

Is logos module even necessary? Im only using logos s1 currently

[robust thistle]

its practically mandatory

[severe crypt]

Delta is a 70% dps increase

[robust thistle]

people keep throwing this 70-80% improvement when its already proven wrong

[ornate vigil]

Oh noh...

[severe crypt]

Legit? What’s the real value

[ivory terrace]

even for s1 being able to supplement damage with necrosis is helpful

[robust thistle]

its like 30-40

[stoic quartz]

16-12 has any trick to fight the bear?

[boreal steeple]

I got tequila's mod bcz the trait(and im rich)

[severe crypt]

Huh, where’d 70% come from then

[boreal steeple]

#salt-mines message just stall the enraged as much as you can, phase 2 you can dps after he's done with being enraged mode

[robust thistle]

they probably usd full necrosis uptime

[zenith pagoda]

is ascalon worth pulling for

[severe crypt]

But ig it’s not really applicable if logos kills before then

[robust thistle]

just like how eblana dps calc uses 3 enhanced solders full uptime with full skill spam

[glossy schooner]

Use cheap ranged units to drag the bear back and around, meanwhile you get yourself set up with your tankier defender and some healers

[robust thistle]

depends on your savings

[eager totem]

im quite sure i dont see the path of the thing that rides on your operators in is6
did i miss something huh

[zenith pagoda]

i have 100 pulls in the vault and lowkey ascalon is one of my favorite ops in the game

[robust thistle]

you cal clearly see the route it takes in the stage

[gray mulch]

Just cert her later this year

[eager totem]

in the stage preview?

[robust thistle]

no, in the stage

[zenith pagoda]

How long is that

[eager totem]

yeh i didnt see the path just now
its from the drone spawn

[boreal steeple]

Omg waifubait🥹
You can pull but we consider you pulling on sash2 banner since both rateups are insanely good

[ornate vigil]

Can you suggest any units that could tank his ahh?

[ivory terrace]

if u missed it, well there is ark-night

[gray mulch]

Should be this autumn

[robust thistle]

you missed it then, you can just watch the talisman moving

[urban sleet]

E2 defenders work with medics, hoshi2 with mon3tr

[zenith pagoda]

Waifubait MIGHT end my sash alter savings

[ornate vigil]

I see, thanksssss

[boreal steeple]

Borrow hoshi alt, i was just testing how low i can get and you need jaye s1 or lappland1 e2

[severe crypt]

Just buy her later this year from gold certs man, or buy paid selector

[stoic quartz]

@glossy schooner
Hoshi was able to hold him, thx

[steel juniper]

Anyone 6 stars I should build? I have most meta ops and I wanna know if anyone is good for IS or other shenanigans.

[robust thistle]

eh

[urban sleet]

-# Dorothy can be fun

[robust thistle]

maybe mostima
hool is apparently good for IS6E5

[eager totem]

what about statuegeist i also dont see the path

[ornate vigil]

Pepe is love, pepe is life

[gray mulch]

Hool has IS mod

[robust thistle]

that one you figure out on your own

[formal shadow]

zuo

[steel juniper]

yeah i was thinking of zuo next

[languid compass]

what r the main ways of obtaining pulls

[robust thistle]

dailies, weeklies, annihilation

[eager totem]

yeah well i lost a run becauase of those things just now 😭 😭 😭

[formal shadow]

annihilation, new stage clear, daily, weekly, gold cert

[robust thistle]

just try again, big deal

[urban sleet]

#help message

[worldly sky]

is entel new mod coming out next patch

[crisp vine]

Viviana melts everything in her range not a lane holder but she melts
Zho le is great in is6 because of faction and some relics

[robust thistle]

please dont raise viviana

[crisp vine]

Not worth mentioning

[robust thistle]

also zuo le isnt 'great' in IS6, he gets statchecked to hell and back

[severe crypt]

actually yes cuz apparently she has use now in is6 ed5

[gray mulch]

She sees use

[royal swan]

Isn't that with SA2 patch?

[ornate vigil]

Any note worthy units to build? Im still thinking of which team i should build up with.

Im almost done with tragodia s2 and logos s1.
I also just tooked haruka's module and then ditched

[robust thistle]

yes its with gnosis IS mod

[crisp vine]

So far

[royal swan]

Logos delta mod lv 3 please

[robust thistle]

logos mod, leizi mod, saria mod, lemuen mod2
use saria s1
ascalon, ray

[formal shadow]

ascalon, ray

[ornate vigil]

Im on it, im still at ch10😭

[severe crypt]

If you want something to build why not build something that does see use, vivi, doesn’t see any use rn

[gray mulch]

Raise shamare tequila for base

[crisp vine]

They are fun to use in general as well

[robust thistle]

also 'viviana melts enemies' dude she dies vs the croc champions in IS6
her skill cycle is ass

[royal swan]

Hoshi2 mod coming with SA2 patch

Ascalon is a good unit to build

Shamare e2 for base

[crisp vine]

Her skill cycle isn't that bad man

[robust thistle]

if she dies vs the stuff she should be facing agaisnt, then shes bad

[severe crypt]

It kinda sorta is, and that’s the least of her problems

[gray mulch]

Saying hool is irrelevant while reccing vivi is crazy

[boreal steeple]

His coin is great tho

[severe crypt]

Damn should I start cursing vivi now

[crisp vine]

And Viviana advice was more in general than for IS
Currently only using lazyalter in is as a guard very nice unit

[safe tundra]

vivy in general is still mid

[robust thistle]

dude I use hung as defender in general content, you can throw shit and it sticks on the wall

[severe crypt]

Considering the rest of bros roster, vivi is not needed

[gray mulch]

As if vet needs gen recs

[rain forge]

Vivianna vs gen content is like dying ant vs decaying leaf

[gray mulch]

-# Curse me hool first tho

[urban sleet]

-# same vet struggled with 16-12 sooo

[robust thistle]

they should test if viviana clears 16-12

[boreal steeple]

Everything is possible

[abstract mauve]

naaa vivi is still usable tho

[royal swan]

16-12 is OP, ulpianus can't beat it

[gray mulch]

-# Vivi won't fix that skill issue

[rain forge]

ulpianus has 0 def that’s why

[safe tundra]

no way

[abstract mauve]

that's not the right answer

[rain forge]

16-12 is bear right

[boreal steeple]

Bear has increased dmg ye

[glossy schooner]

Yeah it’s big ol bear

[urban sleet]

-# hey she can work as bait

[abstract mauve]

ulpianus didnt have enough healing ✅

[tiny abyss]

I want Vivi can u do it

[rain forge]

Iirc e2 cuora can tank bear right

[royal swan]

There's a bunch of things that can tank the bear and u can also just cc it to death

[safe tundra]

wow you guys are overusing this feature
-# do not

[gray mulch]

Thornsalt prob the new curse

[abstract mauve]

any remotely usable brick defender can tank the bear. yes

[boreal steeple]

"When dealing damage, inflicts a debuff to the target that causes them to take +100% damage from the Rampaging Abnormal Manglerbeast for 20 seconds."

[boreal steeple]

E1 can do that too but with 3 medics

[safe tundra]

what statuses are they immune to, can you cheese tragodia

[rain forge]

should I bother raising cuora or should I js borrow hoshi1

[abstract mauve]

iirc almost nothing

[royal swan]

Just borrow a brick if u don't have one raised

[safe tundra]

oh lmfao

[boreal steeple]

Tragodia cheese works, needs some extra cc to inf stall

[pale tapir]

fear and sleep

[abstract mauve]

you can perma stun fyi

[light latch]

its immune to fear and sleep

[tiny abyss]

Fear and other one i forget

[royal swan]

Or u can throw 100 cc units at it like indigo ethan ascalon etc

[safe tundra]

fym extra cc

[gray mulch]

Raising cuora should be useful and isn't too expensive, but you can just borrow if you want

[safe tundra]

all i need is the 3 paralysis stacks to permastall

[abstract mauve]

everything under the sun is immune to sleep. fear is just uhhh nymph fell off anyway 🥱

[boreal steeple]

Crowd control bcz a bit too fast

[urban sleet]

Can also tragodia it, will need cc help tho unltil its fatigued

[pale tapir]

mostima suzuran blazealt ray ines

[tiny abyss]

Is bind a cc

[urban sleet]

Shrimply tragothy the bear

[abstract mauve]

just borrow someone if it's just this stage

[royal swan]

I'm fairly sure ethan + indigo can duo it or maybe they need one more unit, altho ig u need rock bait for phase 2

[abstract mauve]

yes but it's very rarily if ever that enemies are immune to it

[boreal steeple]

Hoshi1 borrow has way too much def so bear deals very low dmg

[royal swan]

Or well silence works ig

[abstract mauve]

not a chance in hell

[urban sleet]

Yeah rockthrow is silenceable

[sour phoenix]

What does flint the material do

[urban sleet]

Its shop currency no

[royal swan]

Ch 16 event shop currency

[gray mulch]

It's shop currency not mat

[neat eagle]

Should narantuya be mod 3 or mod1?

[sour phoenix]

I see

[abstract mauve]

i would say she has enough defense. calling it way too much implies that it is much compared to the other options which it isnt

[native cargo]

worth? i only hve 4 aerial dps

[safe tundra]

hmm yes probably (what is?)

[native cargo]

mb the image got left out lmao

[neat eagle]

Should narantuya be mod 3 or mod1?

[urban sleet]

Kroos2 mod wow

[boreal steeple]

You have no resources, not really

[gray mulch]

Bro you're poor as balls

[urban sleet]

Kroos2 shouldnt even be e2 unless you play 5starknights or sth

[neat eagle]

:<

[abstract mauve]

mod1 is the main increase with the trait change. upgrading from mod1 to mod3 is around a 6% damage increase

[abstract mauve]

kroos2 s2 has good masteries 👍

[native cargo]

im more like kinda speedrunning as i want to save for sash banner

[urban sleet]

But does the average player need her at e2 tho

[gray mulch]

Not really

[urban sleet]

Also iirc this person is a newbie

[native cargo]

i used e2 ticket on her

[urban sleet]

Okay wtf

[abstract mauve]

not the worst choice imo

[native cargo]

lowk rare kroos is better