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with a wat now
I did read the guides smh
3 30% workers
Now that you've said this, I'm now doubting
I'll take more dmg
so what im getting from base is bascicaly I just need teams that work with other?
well if you want to try fixing my base even further you can just hop in vc atp 
Only if you have the needed ops, otherwise you just stack high percent
Or just read the noob page from the Base Combo Spreadsheet in #r-i-i-c pins
To have a baseline on what to do
Does anyone know when will RM-H-5 open?
im so confused why does it show 8 unist here when there is 5 and if i want to rotate out it should be 10?
pick the ones you have or you want
they're in sections
No, if your base is this bad, what you need is basic e0/e1 workers
Each facility tab in riic spreadsheet should have a summary of good standalone units at the bottom of the page
Don't e2 for base until you're done with those, except for proviso, that you should e2 asap
mayu who do you use with Ros?
and also how do i know which team to use, i remember asking if the rainbow 6 siege squad is good and some dude told me its ass even tho it was on the sheet
I'm a filthy non exodia user sadly 🥹
missing dusk/ling to make it work
I have exodia ops but too lazy to set up 
yo why did i e2 skybox
skybox?
should of went provisoi wasnt aware of base tech
yall be getting 24 gold records a day??
Read the name of the guy who gave the advice
33 with two factories, 44 with 3
shileds
sup
i was called
The second half
welfare knights
Now you got your answer
skybox and tequilla are same tier combatwise
mb, 33/44 is crazy tho
I don't think shileds would recommend skybox if the unit is only good for welfare niche
bro said he doesnt like base. this is not my fault
they are??
yea i dont
different use cases but they kinda are ye
still needed a good 5 star for is tho so thx
Whos exodia
skybox good in IS?
is the next go to banner silverash alter?
shileds you're kinda interesting me in building skybox
phantom alter
That's tragodia
expensive ass base team, Sui siblings, mr nothing, Ros, whisp/mullberry
Colloquial term for the perception information and worldly plight base teams
oh
Aahh
i still would have to test them more in IS. i was planning on leaving IS viability tests to EN cuz i dont have 90% of the units i draft on CN
this monstrosity of a base combo
does byproduct rate apply once per item?
It’s a yugioh term originally
Blue eyes white dragon ahh build idk I never played Yu-Gi-Oh
what % does jieyun even give
yes
proviso got e2ed 😦
are you saying that like its a bad thing?

“Damn I e2ed proviso instead of windflit”
What does windflit have to do with this
i was lkw of thinkign e2ing savage but i thought of how much battle records i could be earning in the future if i e2 proviso right here
I just hate windflit 
who are some ranged ops with unlimited skills other than typhon s2 and logos s1
Haruka 
marcille
Fia
thorns 
Pretty sure jieyun isn't used actually
what app is that
oh damn thanks bestie
tomimi.dev
Quercus, leumen, GG, etc
~~You forgot to tick ranged ~~
i missed that part
it's only 32% with mullberry, 24% with whisp I think
Yeah, unless i'm blind, she's not part of the optimized rotation https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SixW_LMuizJ-fOlRuytX623dP0-bVWfxtaM8WwYpYRQ/edit?gid=485162268#gid=485162268
so useless basically
wtf is that
Spreadsheet
the link? base teams
is that meta base
Yes
How good is windchimes
how do i copy it i dont understand the format
The one i sent ?
ya
You don't, this is base nerd shit
it requires a lot of e2 ops, just focus on the cheap slaves instead
o.
Like there's 2 7h rotations, and one 17h rota, if you don't like base, you will burn out in a day
ok i got proviso what other prioties are there
#bot-spam /baseskillls for the cheap E1 and e0 slaves
can i still get conviction? i remember he cam eback once but he didnt come back last year
every April 1st for a week
is logos better module delta or Y ?
delta mod3
even for en?
no operators are CN only
i proably missed it then.. i remembr it was the one where uplay as a reunion solder
that hasnt come to global yet
no like it wasnt delayed in 6 month
ark no nights?
well conviction came out a while ago so now they rotate every April 1st
rechord what's your thoughts on Czerny
uh i've never used him
ask @abstract mauve
though i know of his broken technology in sakiko event 
how do i unlock module on wis?
Own her and have her mod outside of rm
i have her mod and own her though
Oh then just lvl 60
probably lvl 60
ahhh ty forgot about level
lol mb i just saw this yeah i have mod so hamster it is
icl i rarely use him. most i've used him was in sakiko event. he doesnt do a whole lot outside that. shalem also generally better from my experience at least. havent needed much of a dedicated arts res defender

never used asbestos unfortunately
I might e2 underflow instead then
mmmmh
i'd go with underflow first yee
i should e2 asbestos after leizi
yaaa underflow is a good choice
is side story the only and best method for grinding op ? ( i want logos )
im at like 10 pity lmao
first clear bonus from story or side story yeah, you might struggle to get 40 pulls though
🥀
dont worry I just blessed your odds and increased the chance of logos to 1/3
🔥
actually you might get enough depending on stage sanity cost and potions
enough means 65 ?
Im pretty sure heart of surging flame doesn't take santity for some stages
you probably wont need 65 pulls to get a 6 star
should i get one of the characters from the current banners? https://www.krooster.com/u/loved-navy-weedy-76na
but i guess you're skipping sash2 or something
bag worth raising in the big 26?
:lappphone:
reroll or skip and save for sash2
Thanks for advice earlier! Tried until first 6 star and pulled Monst3r in 51 pulls, very satisfied with getting best medic and awesome character! Still have 170 OP (no orundum or tickets), so probably going to be able to store some pulls until limited banners 
Apologies if this is off-topic, just wanted to thank you for suggesting pulling
i am gonna skip sash2
myrtle and cantabile for life
i will throw the free pulls on it though
i might get lucky
sash2 isnt the target for you though, pramalter is
who's the best medic trainer?
does he know
is she a good caster ?
equal to logos, arguably stronger in advanced content for now
who?
Heard she's the best caster
Is the current orient banner worth rolling on for a new player? If so which units should I target?
yooo
then i am not gonna pull for logos
it's 133 op for 40 pulls, if you use 18 as average sanity cost per stage it's 2400 sanity which is 10 days so I don't think you can get 65 pulls before banner ends unless you're new and level up a lot
Which movement is best to unlock
i already have a decent team
mont3r could be useful but ehh
blaze is the filler in last spot
sash2/pramalter limited banner in about 2ish months give or take
your account is new enough to where you can reroll for logos without losing anything of value
if you're not willing to reroll you should be saving your pulls
i see
just skip, your team is fine
the entire banner aside from mon3tr will probably be in yellow cert sometime this year
im kinda struggling with content rn though
which account is better
i will get the healer from the selector (first img) and the spector
right
why
logoat
sash > thorns
did you reroll for logos when you already had logos or something
Both have him
ASCALON IN YELLOW CERT ALREADY???
oh both have logos lmao
i can somewhat brute force through but its really tough
yeah i just noticed lmao
this is what i'm currently runnig
i wa actually saving saving for limited so had to work with 4 -5 stars i got and it was not good
Is that with or without borrowing? You can probably do like 90% of story just with a borrow and filler of whatever you have
e1 mountain and throw him in for noir
warfarin on s1 you have no one to buff
would drop red, apart from that looks good. who are you buffing with warfarin?
that's why I'm hoping to get better 5 star
just stick with the right side account unless you're willing to reroll for logos + proviso, proviso is only used in base
whatever i can get in range tbh
yea its not doing much, you have no buff targets for her
If there's every a stage you just want to skip, you can borrow Wis'adel and she'll do the job alone 
At least that's how it worked for me in EX stages
idk the pfp is telling me he wants monst3r
if he really wants mon3tr rerolling would be the best move
how many
thats like 60 pulls, skip this banner unless you see yourself clearing 500 stages for pulls for sash2/pramalt
60
Between sakiko, logos, and lemuen, which should i m3 first?
logos
s3m3 and modd3
damm ok i see
If I already built Executor way back when, is there any strong reason to build Pinecone?
60 pulls includes the originite prime btw
i also have 27 headhunting permits
typically pullers on this banner have 150+ pulls
damm thats alot
thats what you need to have a decent chance at both rateups on a limited banner 
she is better but you don't really need either tbh, feel free to link your krooster though
when does the current event end?
f2p pull income is about 700-900 pulls a year so
so i have to be really careful who and what i want
oh i see that sounds fair then
yes unless you pull out 💳
nah id rather not
You don't have to be THAT careful this banner isn't bad, its just that the limited(sash and pram) one after it is better so its not the most optimal move for you.
maybe like the monthly thing
monthly is good value
is the SA2 banner after this orienteering one?
probably not
Yeah the monthly card is the best value if you're going that option
Nah mantra than another banner before it
probably have to watch a guide on how to get as many pulls as possible as a f2p
Is it okay to use sanity atm for the red certs to get chip catalysts
just clear annihilation to 1800
do annihilation, weekly and daily
clear events
first clear side stories and main story during event downtime
if you're not pulling on this banner you have a lot of time. You don't really need to go out of your way other than the weekly anni farm.
You can also do IS monthlys I think if you want the no sanity route. These also give you chips so its a decent method.
damn so like middle of April then maybe eh
Is typhon good?
not really, S2 afk is fine for general content though ig
She's decent
new player here.
Should i pull this banner?
never pull on that kind of banner or the banner to the right of that
Who should I level or e1/e2 next? https://www.krooster.com/u/hidi04
is Grani worth to up ?
high priority
- e2 exu covenant -> then do s2m3
- e2 sakiko -> then do s3m3
- e2 proviso and make her work in a lvl2 trading post
medium priority
- e2 reed medic
- e2 surtr
- e2 silverash
- e1 kroos alt
- e1 silence and ptilopsis
when is silveralt expected to arrive
So I put exu in the training room and wait?
around 1 or 2 months
placer her in the training room. select the skill you wanna mastery and max it (aka m1 > m2 > m3)
first she needs to be e2 ofc
Which 4 star should I use my instant e2 and s3 on?
Any recommendations to upgrade for early deployment?
There are some kind of stages that requires quick deploys and I’m struggling at keeping them alive before I can use sakiko/silverash
krooster below:
https://www.krooster.com/u/spark-mint-aak-57jj
Thanks for the info. One more question tho is ascalon not a prio?
yeah she's pretty good. medium priority
is fang not doing enough for you?
Some have 2-3 lane push so fang can't hold everything
curious question guys, should I pull for mantra if I have ~240 pulls now, or I should just skip and go for sash alter instead?
Exactly what he said 
I mean, do you want Mantra
Was I not supposed to get lvl 3 trading posts? Because I got 2 of them as the base guide said in bot-spam
you bring a 2nd vanguard then, like saga or vanilla
not as highly as ulpipi I guess, but I do want to collect everyone
Might as well try for first 6* then, you have alot of pulls
How's this squad? Should I keep upgrading them since i don't think I'll pull anything soon
I mean, if ave mujica banner treats me better I would have actually consider pulling for sakiko pot 
Roadless camelot in pins, there's squad building too and good free ops
Smh imagine not having pot6 Saki
you should at least fill out your squad
saria and mon3tr are the only good units worth raising here
U mean the sheets? I have seen it but it's mostly low tier units
Hmm, might upgrade vanilla or myrtle ig, thanks @wind blade 
At least fill with lower tier units, they aren't that useless
whisperian or silence who's better?
silence
Kroos alter and tequila are good for the 5☆s
Ok, I'll add that aoe caster girl and another 2
why ?
whisp has lower healing
Also about this banner, i already got saria in first 10 but it didn't disappear, should i keep pulling?
which ascalon module?
Just ignkre the banner
mod x level 1
between these 2 and perfumer who's last ?
Was I not supposed to get lvl 3 trading posts? Hermitz said that I should put proviso in a lvl 2 tc
Check the beginner guide on pins, there is a base building guide on it
are you on a 252 setup? if so having a level 2 TP allows you to have 1 more level 3 factory which is a big plus point there. also due to how proviso base skill works, having level 2 TP allows her base skill to have 100% uptime and basically 166% / 200% the actual productivity by simple maths.
Yes
I built my base by the guide in bot spam
silence + ansel is fine till you get ptilo with selectors or if you used it already you can use perfumer
What's the best module level for logos? And is the module which does necrosis better than the boss one?
necrosis module better
delta is better in most situations
Just check the guide for better guide
Hi, is Sakiko worth using without any of the other band members?
yes
Okay, also s3 is worth m3 rt?
yes
Ok I'm
best caster in the game
Hmm alr 
So you mean I could go 6 factories and 1 trading post because of Proviso?
That's not what that means
Aren't you limited to 5 of a single building?
probably, I don't think I've ever seen 6 factories
Ahh okay I get it now
You can also just, you know
Actually check the guide
Should I max training room
yes
who should i use my e2 permit on??
Save
is there anyone specific i want to use it on then
Provisio/shamare would be the best targets
Specter is the low skill ceiling option
Tequila is harder to use but better for damage/burst
Tequila is free from events btw, check pins
That's a newbie account, from the number of 5*
i already have blaze so im hesitant on specter and yeah its a new acc
Proviso/shamare is grief on newbie account
Role overlap doesn't mean much, if op is good you use them
I am hoping for the future
tho yeah I did forget about tequila
I would personally go for tequila, but the current recommendation is specter
Issue is, new players tend to dislike using tequila because of 0 block
im not new new i just lost my old acc and im starting over again so ill just get tequilla rn
have you tried #tech-support
You might be able to recover your account if that's something you'd be interested in
it was years ago so its hard to provide info about it sadly :c
Do you remember the mail used?
I did, and i tried logging in using it recently but it never worked so i assume it just got deleted
it didnt, should've consulted #tech-support
Well you can still get it back
Yes, because we switched login methods to yostar accounts
But there is a method to recover accounts that did not complete the migration, so check pins in tech support ya
hmm okay ill look into it i do need my skins back LMAO
yeah it doesnt work sadly
Did you follow the instructions in tech support ?
Worst case you contact customer support, hopefully you remember your 6 stars
Anyways #tech-support is your destination for future queries
alright thank you for the help, its lowkey fine bc my old account was cooked anyways i did not have much good things atleast good units now (i was using blue poison and ch'en 😭)
but ill def email support about it bc i do remember my 6*
If you have any gameplay related questions, feel free to ask
Check pins while you're at it, there's a lot of good resources too
yeah the spreadsheet is really helpful
Recovering an old account is better than starting over
Dw abiut your units being outdated, you can still clear stages
I quit after texas2 banner and resumed after trag banner
didnt face ussues clearung content with outdated units, after all that's how the gqme is designed
Is there any way to get this before chapter 9? Is Logos useless without E2? I’m on chapter 6 and having a hard time, so it’ll be awhile…
IS missions
And ch 9 is accessible after ch 3
Pretty sure the current event, rebuilding mandate, has some
I remember there were also in annihilation iirc
Idr annihilations giving t5 mats but i may be mistaken
There's one t5 per anni apparently yeah
391 hurts 
Outside of the permanent ones that is
I just leave it there 😭
Oh cool! Thanks
Surely from IS and other places you can gather 2 more, good luck 
A gamemode called Integrated strategies that you unlock when 3-8 is cleared
Basically a roguelike, we have 5 different ones
When do a run, you gain points, and based on the number of points you get, you progress through a reward track, containing lots of mats, exp, lmd etc
The first one (the one on the far left) you can see in the game is called IS2, IS1 is not available for playing anymore
IS2 might not be on screen when you open the IS tab
since its usually scrolled to the right by default
There's also a tab you can unlock when you clear a run for the first time, called monthly squad
Basically a short run with completion goals, and tied to it are some chips, mats and exp
how do I promote operator in this game mode?
by promoting them in the same menu as manual level up/skill level up
when i try click the operator it only removes from my team, im quite confused
do it in the armory
I think the top left of this jump to the upgrading page too
it was a bit confusing to see where it was but thanks
Perhaps a dumb question but why do people recommend playing IS5 so much?
For older players, because IS is fun and it gives you smth to do
For newer players, because IS5 is easy af to clear, and there's a bunch of rewards
Most easy one to get the awards
It has a tech other IS don’t that makes the clear really fast and easy
el cockroach
What is that tech? I've been struggling quite a bit, only usually just about passing three floors
Do you know about doodle of hope, and lamp of wishes ?
Lamp of wishes I do, but not doodle of hope
You can check #is-station pins, there should be an explanation of fated relics
What level mastery should I make Lemuen?
But basically, lamp of wishes with wisadel borrow is a very straightforward run at low diffs, and can be very fast
Doodle was the way to farm IS5 for new players before lamp came out, but i honestly don't know much about it
none hes a bum
s3m3 mod2
I see, I'll take a look
He?
Yeah that is why writing operator's names correctly is important
Use blueprint squad, grab wis, use lamp of wishes and refresh everything into a wish fullfill basically
Alright thats my bad bro i thought you meant the medic
With lamp at low diffs, your only win prerequisite is basically wisadel e2
Oh you're right haha I mixed up 2 letters haha
No you're good haha I spelt it wrong haha
Is Sakiko M3 priority S2 > S3
No, ew tf
S3 > s2
Ok !
s3 only works
s2 is buns
Gotcha, still got a ways to go unlocking the BP squad
just use support squad until you get bp
also on f5 you should have all the lamp relics so take the path with the least combats
and avoid having to refresh as much as possible
Schrodin what are you cooking I feel like you’ve been typing for a long time
huh, i havent, maybe my discord mobile is bugged
but yea the chance of a successful lamp refresh goes down the higher the floor, and refreshing into a combat on f5 will probably result in your death
From my experience, refreshing a combat is more likely result to a Wish
While refreshing a Encounter types is more likely to be a combat
looking at it again i was gigacapping, chance remains about the same on f5 for lamp but its higher for doodle
doesnt change that an f5 combat has a high chance to kill a lamp rush
also idk man its probably survivorship bias but ive gotten thrown into too many e regular armies after refreshing a normal chaos to trust lamp anymore 
these are the probabilities if it interests you
why is it only 50%
yea lamp fucking hurts
this makes soooooo much more sense
i feel like i get good luck on a streak then bad luck on a streak. i wasnt aware that it was a fucking coin toss
in my last run i failed 5 refreshes in a row and exploded on f4 
... it always is a coin toss
thats how probabilities work
What’s the sample size for this
a single coin toss. like heads or tails 50/50 chance. i expected like 70-80% at least
game isn’t that nice ig
so this is why my talon runs have been bullshit
How impactful is haruka mod3 ? Debating wether i keep it at lv1 or go all the way rn
its not
keep it at lv1
gonna be honest i just took it from IS central, its from this video that im too lazy to watch rn
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1yhdLYAEx4/
Lol ok I’ll just watch 
Pull
push iirc
Oh yea push towards itself
oh its reverse push, like mint
noted
i just had a stroke
bum ass goat cant even pull correctly
In game desc worded it like pull
What's the difference between pull and reverse push? 
i recently got this medic called vendela (cant show screenshot of me obtaining her but i attached her base model sprite) is she a good medic?
also she just happens to be really cute to me so i hope she is
shes pretty ass, also no need for images because we're all nerds who dont go outside and know operators by name
Her E2 art is even better. Tho she kinda sucks unfortunately 
vendela is pretty terrible even for 5star standards 
being an incantation medic means she functions more like a caster that happens to heal, and her own damage output isnt very good so she ends up not healing very much either
Forces for push/pull are not the same
Well the ratings of the forces are, the values are not
Is there a lot of tutorial slop i have to go through in the new gamemode
awww man ;-;
vendela does have the tiniest niche in being able to apply positive taunt onto an ally but that comes up once every never
Which one is the strongest per value?
dont worry about someone here not knowing who an operator is by name unless they're a brand new CN op
Mon3 s3 healing based on atk means that she doesnt have to actually do dmg to heal right
Super taunt mlynar 
why is every unit i get ass bro 
they function differently. https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Shift
ngl, I'm not a fan of Chen, how skippable is her aalter if I play IS?
How about on Asca s3 
you could lower your standards lol, #help has very high standards so 90% of ops are ass to us
is Wisadel ass
even by low standards vendela is kinda 🚮
According to dragslayer yes 🥹
Iirc Asca s3 +2 taunt on her right so she has 1 taunt from -1
Makes your brain ass
ah
bro you are physically unable to lower your standards enough to where vendela isnt ass
How about via surgery 
Depends on how you define a lot, but there’re new things to learn in order to play it comfortably that’s for sure
ok come on you know if she was a good 5*, some of us would at least try to defend her
dont get me wrong vendela's still ass like schrodingcat said 
im like john e2ed vendela cause i like her splash art (and ave mujica event) but shes staying sl1 bro
i mean i am gonna use her for now considering im just getting started
If you're not pushing some specific content, playing with shit units is only a skill check
e2l80 sl1 :clueless
closest thing to a real use i could come up with for vendela is being support for ulpianus since her talent boosts his
i mean yeah thats fine, just dont invest too much into her, keep her at e1 lv30 or something
i had quite a bit of fun with hibalt when i first started but im pretty sure hibalt sweeps vendela
A lot for me is kind of how long it took to get out of the tutorial zone in RA
hibialt is at the very least a mini reedalt, vendela attempts to carve a niche for herself and fails spectacularly
Eh, like 80% of a lot I guess, and you need to read
reading aint a problem for me
i've seen vendela be used alongside aak to snipe wisadel in icebreaker games 🫡
okay but wait
is pramanix good (i have her at e2 please dont tell me she is ass ;-;)
her alter is good. original isnt used ever
goddamn this is like worse and worser

rose salt S2 applies a DoT, so it is good for Ulpi right?
is her alternate obtainable through headhunting/recruting btw? just wondering
She's unused but prama at least has a decent niche in res shred ig
next limited event she debuts
Not in global yet but she's standard
pramanix1 is .. shes better than shamare if the boss youre trying to debuff wont immediately wipe her off the face of terra
parmanix alter might not be ass, so you can just build trust on the original to be ready
If you like bad units, feel free to use those
You'll just have a harder time clearing events/story, and we will, ofc, not recommend them
pramalter might not be ass is a slight understatement
What's Pram debuff again -60% def and -40% res??
That damage won’t proc ulpi talent I think
i mean idk what i did but she can attack two enemies at once which i guess is good?
Pramalter better than logos idc fight me
i kinda agree 
I agree too
Nah, her dps is awful. You would only use her for her debuff
i fully agree 
oooh 
shes a hexer, 2 x 0 = 0
yeah, Conviction is the best operator in this game hands down
Omg we have new John Caster real
Jane afk
Hi! What should be my next priority?
I miss ardanis, where's my fight 🥹
There are few 5* who are actually good tbh
your base slaves
then hoshialt haruka narantuya
hoshialt/haruka for combat, proviso for base
Hoshi alter and haruka? What about silver ash s3 mastery?
What's Eyjafjalla alter's best skill?
i said might because #help counts 90% operators ass so i didnt want to get targeted if i said she's op
Uhhh uhmmm I think Mantra is better? Idk
Hoshi2 Mod3 S3m3
Haruka S2m3 Mod1
Bro's hard to replicate.
how does proviso function outside of base, anyway
you have unraised proviso and shamare please raise them first
Orchid Pro Max
not
slight podenco upgrade, thats it
one of the decel binders of all time
Orchid but her cycle is kinda odd
Other than proviso what should I raise for base? I think I have most of them e1
shamare
1 for Annihilations or afk, 3 for burst healing during bosses ( i built both 1 and 3 )
proviso can be an aspd buffer for mlynar 
Never speak again
If you really want to feel whether an op is good or not for your own reference, try them in the new event rebuilding mandate.
Because you don’t spend actual account resources to raise op there
Gotcha, thanks!
The problem with mandate is you won't get modules if you don't own them.
Is Gilberta a good operator
tbf mandate meta is quite different than normal gameplay
Not to mention map/enemies differ from other gamemodes
we say angelina around here sir
check endfield server, different place
You mean Angelina or actual gil?
If you mean Endfield ops, wrong server. If you mean AK, it's Ange. And she's used in IS.
incredibly strong in IS, giant bum outside
Yeah but you get a sense which is better than nothing lol
Borrowing is kind of interesting cause some op are just not raised by other ppl
god my is gameplay is cucked by not having fuckin kernel ops 🥹
Thanks, someone actually helped.. but i still can't manage to pull her all this time
thats cuz shes in kernel jail, save 180 certs to buy her the next time shes in shop
Prob meant even before kernel
kernel jail and banned from recruitment, worst of both worlds
mizuki shoperator please 🥹
I agree, borrowing some ops would actually be pretty hard, that's true
still pullable in endfield tho
whats the chance for recruit to just fuck your tag?
when you like your tags, 100%
50/50
pretty small, but gets more likely if you set lower times
at 9h?
im not sure if theres a specific number out there but it feels like 5%ish
Actually never saw numbers for that, i'm not sure those are out, outside of huge data logging
if top/senior op + 9hrs, 0%, theyll stay
i managed to fuck myself over
good job
Well that's a skill issue
So the game just trolled me when it crossed out the Defender when I have Shift tag with it
Surviver bias but probably more likely to be crossed for 5 star combination with no senior tag
dont worry there's an easter egg 7* robot operator
no 🥐 for you
PRTS playable when
Has anybody tried picking 2 guaranteed 4* tags like frd and specialist and have one of them fail?
Yes
I usually do it as a failsafe but never failed so idk if they both get erased or just one
How do i use Ash's s3 correctly?
Never got both to drop either, or i forgot about it
Ive never seen both failed
Ash from r6?
or some other ash
Yea, her.
in CN pc client
ash sniper ?
Press skill, flashbang, get bonus damage for a bit, realize the skill is flawed and fall over
She’s kind of washed nowadays 
not a surprise that you find it awkward to use her
So it works? As in only one of them will drop (unless massive unlucky moment)
wrong skill
yea, no reason not to take both unless leaving off one of them keeps someone in the pool youre aiming for
Wut flashbang is s2 
I'm getting senile, sorry
😭
Damn I thought that was s3 too and I was like
Epic, ty guys 
you kinda .. dont
its like if ray s1 was bad, and you dont exactly see people singing ray s1s praises every day
S3 is her “ult” from r6s 🥹
What are the best units to recruit for Rebuilding Mandate? wisadel, virtuosa, ascalon?
Buff her with steroids and you got a prettier eben nuke
i like your thought process FAE

eben nuke has better sfx tho :realmad:
Virt is nowhere near of the top rm units, check #1480479361885933792 pins
Can totally do it for prettiness if you already did good with the event
Get Sakiko
get krooster 
get marcille 
See I would try to look at the prettiness if the stage didnt look like a warzone already 🥹
Sadly game doesn't allow us to use Exceptional Invitation to get 5*
Otherwise i would gotten the band already
im still missing umiri 
Said by someone who picked Nara right away 
still waiting on mutsumi/nyamu 😔
Borrow for now :bigbrain:
That's ntr
tbf the 300 aspd is still a straight buff to her s2
dont think about the effectiveness too much tho
Loopshooter aspd cap is very annoying but Idc
Yeah I think s2 is the best skill in this scenario
Rebuild mandate if I don't own the operator can I still use it by using the exceptional recruit (I recruit wis) but j can't seem to select or use her in the operator upgrade screen
#1480479361885933792 pins third one scroll down
You can select them through support
Which 6* are good to start with for sui garden IS?
Trag/Exu2/Radian, depending on your difficulty and needs
radian
radian
radian
tragodia
wisadel
hoshi is funny
where exu2 
I eat her
i must be honest
i havent tried the exu2 opening technology
i was too busy trying to make sakiko opening work rn (it doesnt, wait till dlc drops)
hoshi opening in suppdef is almost unfair tho
Just got Mon3tr, what skill should I upgrade?
2 and 3
not necessarily in that order
@primal chasm hey, are you available to help with something real quick?
Who for my next E2? Still Logos?
I’d say so yeah
Use s1 on saria
is it worth to buy bibaek from the cert orrr nop 
It's not, you can get tailoring without spending 45 certs
Cert shop no cc shop sure
Isn't it 40 gold
Unless they changed something recently, no
Bit of a weird question but does one type of damage typically scale better into harder stages or does the game consistently throw stages at you where there's a healthy preference for either/or or a mix of both?
It is 40
Didn't know bibeak was priced differently, thanks
All cc ops are
IS is not nice to arts, CC is not nice to phs.
But whether you are using an art/phs/true/elemental character in those context depends on their other utility too
That's fair enough. How come IS is not nice to arts? Only played a bit but been finding the opposite in IS5 at least
High res in some cases, bad relics boost in others
IS5 is not that harsh to arts yeah
I see, thank you.
Speaking specifically about IS5, is there any way to increase the amount of ingots I can invest per run?
Invest? I think that cap is random so you can’t do anything about it 
Pretty sure the chance to jam is random and tied to both seed, and what floor you're on
specifically IS3 is extremely hostile to arts
to an absurd degree
ther others are fine
its just that physical is usually easier to hyperscale
and most casters are trash, and the best ops are physical, but not because they are physical
Maybe you can choose to invest during later floors to gamble for higher cap but ehhhh
once you unlock shop squad in IS5 you can invest in the first tile and retreat
I think the best caster archetype is phalanx, great potential still 
Yeah what crom said is more accurate, also because of how def and res scales, if an enemy has 1500 def and 50 res, if you get your phs op dph to go over 3000 then it just does more than arts as you boost both
PHS and DPH?
Physical
And damage per hit
no one uses PHS
due to how the damage calculations work, dph is very tied to how we evaluate physical damage dealers
Defense is an entry cost you have to pay
Res is a % reduction instead
sry
Get
ed
How is defence calculated? Is it a fixed reduction?
Dmg dealt = dph - def
it's subtraction ye
Yes, 100 defense = -100 physical damage
at d10 is6 arts is still usable tho right
I see. Do enemies really reach like 1500+?
How much orudum can I get from factory If I spend all sanity for it
I'm pretty sure we told you not to do that already
Hiw about 0 since you shouldn't be doing it
I just wanna know the max ammount
Damn, thank you all
I'm not gonna do it
You're new and have originite left to farm
Each originite is around 7 times more efficient than farming orundum in base, and that's assuming 21 sanity cost for the stage
~~And ignoring opportunity cost of your base prod ~~
honestly would just rather not use any arts damage outside raidian s3 if i need it
You are gonna get 10 hh worth every month i heard but its gonna cost everything
with monthly and stockpile i believe it's like 14 pulls a month
With monthly card sanity, and spending everything you can sustain something like 13-14 pulls per month in rocks
there's still some good arts damage units but usually physical damage gooder in is6 
do we have ermmm... self select 6* ops for kernel banner?
What do ppl use I honestly forgot
yes, called kernel locating
phys
PHY
mainly phys ye
phs 
oh well I get the point across atleast
then for kernel locating, we can choose from the entire list of kernel 6* or ??? 
You get bonked too :realmad:

No, the pool is split, seemingly randomly
How much lmd for that
Did we have angelina in last kernel selecting
kernel is always bad value tho, only pull if you have free tickets, and wait for a good kernel locating pool
Riic pins have a guide on AO farming, with basic maths tied to producing oru
or save 180 certs, not recommended for the average player
I have like 28 tickets that I can't use elsewhere so 
yea just wait for a good kernel locating
Yeah, wait for a good banner/locating
96k lmd and 120 rocks per pull
Insane
It's free currency, of course it's expensive
the lmd is pretty meh, but the 120 rocc is the torture
How u farm lmd if everything is on rock
Base ?
Don't u convert everything to rock?
You're not supposed to farm lmd from stages in the first place
One tp for lmd and one tp for oru
Iirc you reserve one tp for lmd
Every factory to rock farming
you don't even farm 120 rocc daily
Ppl who do shards farm have one tp on shards while the rest is on lmd
when and what's the next banner?
Why would you do that ?
No need to full commit
And not running proviso's tp is a crime
/cnbanner in #bot-spam for next banner
you're confusing rocks with shard
I'm calling orundum red rock. My bad
not running proviso tp is a crime? 
Yes ?
imagine not running shamare tp
yes they put you in mannsfield prison
I think the bigger crime is orundum farming in the first place 
rock is the rock from 1-7
Well ok it’s exaggerated but
I know but to me orundum is red rock
Check your numbers maybe 🥱
unless you’re mr moneybags with 100 mil lmd or smth and know how to efficiently do originium farming, when would it not be a crime
Ofc it’s not a crime if you can’t obtain proviso skillfully from gacha, but if you have proviso it’s just bad to not use her
then I think newbie guide should just change to "use e2 ticket on proviso cause not using proviso is crime" 
jail
Are you playing dumb ? The context is orundum farming
No more provisio in newbie selector, that was the rec indeed when she was available
should I farm green rock or device for farming pulls?
T2 rocks
how good is demetri?
nobody is saying that, plus we already had the conversation about combat abilities comes first for newbie
Weren't yoy with cas to gauge him
was gonna ask you guys later
let me indulge and have some fun, shush
how good is mantra?
John potential in my eyes
serviceable but not worth pulling cause banner placement
is pozy good for TP if i have 4 durins locked in the basement?
Only if you can run tuye and kirara e2
and actually run gpl
the point is that proviso is "burn gold bar faster for more productivity" vs "tequila's "produce more lmd out of nothing" and EN really thinks that say paying 5 for 5 is better than paying 4 for 5?
wha
Sure buddy 👍🏻
Sounds like bad base to me
proviso consistently produces 2500 lmd for me far faster and more effectively than shamteq's 2250
not that shamteq is bad
walah cant u just use both
wtf are really debating who's better between provisi and teq am i dreaming
There’s a reason you run 252 instead of 342 or 243 or 333
The context was having only one tp open when oru farming
at the exchange of paying 5 gold bar instead of 4, and also tequila e2 gives 500 lmd not 250 
Can't forget 531
why not both on orudumb farming
Because you need lmd
And again, not running proviso is losing out on the best worker we have currently
how would you guys rate this income from 1-10? 
speaking of base when can we downgrade office 
Exp good lmd eh
If you're new, this is pretty decent
oh no 1 extra gold bar from my reserves of over a thousand that grows by the day
No but we can't sustain proviso or some shit, my man out here producing gold with pinus idk
how is this even a discussion im not running out of gold bars with droning proviso everyday bruh
Why the X, they’re hoping for office downgrade not saying it can be downgraded
are you making assumption that everyone has reserve of over a thousand of gold bars? 
i misread it and am not removing my X for it is too late
Ppl normally dont have even half of that
No, i'm making the assumption that anyone trying to farm orundum should AT THE VERY LEAST be able to sustain proviso without issue
Crazy right
i dont even need a reserve? i sustain her if you count credit shop and green cert reset
I outproduce proviso even with droning as often as possible 
another bold assumption you are trying to make 
not to mention lv2 tp means u can upgrade a fac no?
which is guess what, more gold
????
bro if you cant sustain a proviso tp you shouldnt be orundum farming
okay now this isnt even an assumption, if you CANT sustain proviso, do NOT farm orodumb
Insane
this is not going anywhere, are we really going to continue it
They dipped so we dip too
proviso good shamteq slightly less good
use both 
bro didnt backread
Shouldnt be orundumb farming in the first place
I started the discussion bruh
then again im of the opinion that you should just do lmd till you have a bazillion lmd and then only consider just using both tps to farm orundum
Why backread when you could’ve enjoy life
What do with all this sanity then 🥹
i said use both and then people said oh they want to use half oru half lmd 🥹 🥹
Convert to irl sanity 
red certs for tokens 
well it is orundumb farming, a good handful of people will start it without knowing anything.
thats on them
their curiosity
stupid decisions are stupid decisions regardless
Not like we're telling them each time that they should not 
it is not a stupid decision but rather, they dive into something without understanding 
No more tokens sir 🥹
uh huh
and I said use both as in don't orundum farm and just have 2 tp with both running 
someone orundum farming for no reason probably isnt even properly rotating their base and likely dont even have proper support for shamare team anyways, if its even been set up
even better, switch to 342 instead 
I won't fall for cheap bait again
I am not sure if you are joking or fr this timd
I thought about farming orondum but i rather have extra lmd to build a niche character if im bored 
cant sustain proviso tp
switch to 342
???
352 
they prob ain’t even orundum farming, they orundum gardening 😭
use both while also orundumb farm. win 
base tourist
lord knows if they know max efficiency orundum farm
Just get a j*b and get monthly card
good base and extra pulls
Even more sanity to spend on AO 
I mean if u mean swap between the two across two shifts on one TP that makes sense if you only run one TP
but u could also like... not farm orundum 
But farming oru is not the issue
Farming it at the wrong time is
6
7 for extra exp
who should i recruit 2nd logos? i recruited wisadel. this is cutrent progress in skill tree
pins in #1480479361885933792
i would just take mon3tr so you dont die
should have do the 130
version 
Is this just a nothing burger or I can at least have someone to work as base slave
bro atp just get haruka, she actually works with warning outpost
Can go for spec for a 2/7 at good base workers
why do you need infinite healing when mon3tr healing is already enough and a dps boost on top
Feater good at e0, waaifu needs e2 tho
are any of these worth upgrading i have extra chips sitting in my inventory
Kafka
mizuki funny for IS
gladiia for AH turbo
whats ah
femboy for IS ig
weedy if u need a good pusher
abyssal hunter
she just buffs ulpeanuts
barely any dps boost compared to healing that can actually deal a decent amount against hoards
She has decent niche even if it does not come up often
Don't upgrade her, she's better at e0
i dont have ulpipi
Don't bother with gladiia then
If you get the dog to produce fire ring dot near haruka she can boost damage too 
me when one man surtr hospital
Is it possible to reach lvl 35 for the puzzle skin in the new event without having to play it just from claiming the resource that auto gather for u?
well that’s the strat, get max efficiency then just wait
what's this gladiia slander
Did you really ping me for that
what gladiia gonna do tho
hold lane?
gladiia slanders herself no need
we are not in 2022 🥀
Guess what else can hold lane
gladiia is shittier than mountain at holding a lane dawg
Is there a way to stop raidian from leveling up when playing IS?
which lanes are gladiia holding? chapter 1-4 stages?
yes
when she is lv90
Rip I want her at 69

just stop playing IS6 when she lv69
and don't claim the sanity missions
at least it’s better than the other number pairing with 6
Just tell ppl you’re radian simp and leave everyone else at 69
Yeah that's proll what ill do lmao f rewards
well, everyone assume every players have the better alternative. plus you can only borrow one op, so if you borrow ulpi, you usually need to bring gladiia 
I missed 67 XD
there's better alternatives in welfare only lmao
Like, do you think ulpi does not function without gladiia or ??
how does gladiia even maintain a good reputation in the year of our lord 2026
“what’s this gladiia slander” -> slanders ulpianus
can we please go a week without gladiia shill
Oh yeah @raven ermine can I have the sanity sheet for mats?
myrtle and gladiia shill will stay eternal
i said usually
Did you not check your dms ?
cant bruh newbies and random ppls keep bringing it up 🥹
Oh not yet mb
they trust videos from 4 years ago calling gladiia godlike for a welfare
raising gladia for ulpi borrow is certainly something
newbies probably watch kyostin, and he also uses gladiia+ulpi combo plenty of times
Time to get better then, not waste mats on e2ing lv60 mod2 a welfare
yea but u could also just remove gladiia and put in someone else and it'd probably be just as good if not better
wut
reminds me of that guy I had a argument with cause he insisted Myrtle first e2 was the best for newbies cause of her regen talent. this was after newbie rewards got updated 😭
tht newb should watch better guide then
Tbf if they don’t read release date on a vid isn’t it kinda their fault

kyo tries to afk whenever possible because people complain when they have to use skills
That’s simply a guide not for newbies
Afk

Pretty sure it's for higher end "afk" guidess.
But again, after a while you find out you actually waste less time not doing AFK than following AFK guides.
also gladiia is good investment for versatility, instead of leveling up a low grade puller. fight me
Everyone is already fighting you
What versatility buddy
Just do low grade puller, since when do you actually need pullers
rope where
what versatility? pulling into holes in annihilation?
needing module to remove her talent limitation?
she's just a expensive rope
8 mod blok and 180k lmd?
"But ccb3 620 guide
"
But ccb3 620 guide

past issues
I need some advices
terrible damage too too, this feels like deju vu
me when newbies are like “I don’t have thorns so I can’t do kyostin afk guides!” and then the e2 mod2 sakiko in their roster
yolo
slow for suzu gamble
+slow for suzu 50/50
just from looking at that top op slow for suzu gamba
wow snail internet
Should I be using Mon3tr s2 or s3 with this roster? And which to m3 first? https://www.krooster.com/u/wildcard
Is there any reroll guide? When I search for reroll guide on yt they're all endfield
s2 first
s3 is for rare situations where u need lots of true dmg in a small aoe
Just 50/50 suzu
pins
eyyyy
#salt-mines but grats
thats a char recommendation...? or the roadless camelot one
roadless
Higuys does Weedy turret talent +1 force auto and skill means that it'll have 4 force on s3m3
roadless
Why is it always like this when logging in?, even though the internet connection is good.
#tech-support would be best.
with her and the turret pushing together, the actual force is much higher
what country? maybe it's banned there would try vpn
Indonesia, yesterday I was still able to log in without any issues.
Wait you can stack forces
physic engine
sorawao
you can also stack it with blockshifting
yeet people in lightspeed
newbies get a free e2 5* ticket, would s2m3 ines
Jesselton 30 tiles yeet
i should really screw around with shifting more
you can also use shift in a way to make the target move in parabolic trajectory
How is that one Lateran dud as pusher
why are we using ines for dmg
Masteries give her more sp per cycle too
enforcer? he works well
he has the niche of directional push which is nice
Ines s2 is 10 more aspd at m3 no?
-# He has a niche which is niche 🔥
But very cool thx
yea you would mastery her skill for faster cycle and so on
just wondering why dmg was important at all
Reducing the cooldown gives you the freedom to cycle skill more smoothly, it’s not pointing at you nose saying you’re bad at the game…
Erm
bro said no to +10 horsepower smh
More aspd more dp 
Whatever. They have their logic I’m not gonna try to tweak it 
do as u wish
ines generates more dp with mastery. is a good mastery 
i dont need ines mastery to generate dp when i can just use flagpipe to generate dp faster
Our brains are shrinking
i dont need ines mastery to generate dp when i can trust PRTS will give me dp

They deleted the message saying that they don’t want the skill cooldown to improve because they know not to span skill at random times
I don’t even know what’s going on
just use siege to feed Ines sp smh
use aak on ines for +50 aspd trust
yeah idk though after i s2m3'd ines i have literally never noticed the difference
the originiums from mail aren't even enough to do 10 pulls
Who do I recruit from my Exceptional Appointment?
wisadel then logos
Wait Vina can hit air on s3 with skyranger 
bad choice, she's single target into aoe spam mode
the aoe she does have is rng and tiny
she does well imo, shreds enemies and the aoe kicks in sometimes
she's ok but there are certainly better options
Lemuen s1 is also not mt but it’s recommended for its offensive recovery
Exu2 could maybe work but I haven’t tested her to find out
i hope this is the right channel for this but i guess i have no clue how to unlock the first mission requirements, is it 10 times total or 10 times in 1 battle or is it smth else entirely
hey chat are we allowed to talk about the new char in cn
Total
Lore no Kit fine
what do you guys think of bellone kit wise, do you think he'd be useful?
without other vanguards on the team?
Doesnt have that condition
cuz ive been using his skill in battle idk why its not counting lol
Which skill
which battle
the one it says
Which mode are you using the skill in
wdym mode
like are you using it in integrated strategies/any other no sanity stage or normal stages that cost sanity
normal stages
am i supposed to be using integ 😓
Where is the uhh channel for the new game mode? Like a thread?
oh
thread yeah
so its just any stage that doesnt cost sanity?
Nono u can do it in any normal stage
the mission doesn't count in no sanity stages
ohh Bruh idk why its not showing iupp 😭
But yeah it should cpunt then
It can be stages that cost sanity but why waste sanity
Can I see the squad u're using him in
oh wait it counts in no sanity stages?
It does count
i cant equip it cuz its not unlocked Lel
my bad I had no idea
Ur squad Ik u cant use the mod
which map did you use,doubly make sure it's not practice
oh i read the question wrong Lmfao hold on
He does 4k sgainst mudrock golems
i switch around a lot but i keep most of these ops in
Yea he's on s2
That.. is not the right skill
geeked
ReedBean
oh my fuckign god
also why is your priority ely mod

WarLaugh
im not a metaslave i play for the guys i like chill on me 😓
Hot man
doing a flag mod while lemuen is e0 🥹
if you couldnt tell by the lead op in my squad Lmfao,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Max him in rm if you really want a taste 
an ok blocker
make me happy and greets me when i log in
Very good deal for the investment early on
Anyways yea switch him to s1
thanks goat 😭 i thought they were the same skill lmao
does aak see any is usage
Now I learned how to deal with mod questions 
-# ReedBean
Exu2 s3 is higher dps against 0 def right, conpared to s2
Have not seen any ever 
^ was literally the first question asked tho 🥹
also does e2 canta do anthing
Masteries
s2 is the higher dps but lower dph one iirc
S3 higher dps lower dph
Isnt it the ofher way around 
both have virtually the same total damage
Ok I misremembered
S2 DPS
S3 utility

