help

[turbid ocean]

huh
its more so that all other operators do way more damage

degen has usable DPH w/ some ignore but the problem is total damage

[split sphinx]

blaze2 s3 got similar numbers to degen?

[opaque helm]

Yeah but that kinda applies to like 80% of the older ops 💀

[undone portal]

frighten immune isnt exactly common, other ops just deal more damage than her even with

[turbid ocean]

yes, without burn
but no res shred or anything so damage quality is also poor

[radiant fog]

Yall think it’s worth to summon on the new banner for Hoe and ray? 2 out of 3 chance I get smthing new or a Ascalon dupe

[turbid ocean]

well the point is that degen isn't that old
she was just very popular by circumstance and a factor of flashiness

is4 favored her cycles and invincibility and by chance that her e1 can clear f1/f2

[undone portal]

she got a moment in the spotlight to be the 2nd best guard when mlynar was leagues beyond everyone else

[split sphinx]

ngl arts degen sounds a lot better than using steward/click

[turbid ocean]

if you don't have any other arts damage you would build Blaze2

thats about it

but theres Pram2 and Wang upcoming so its kind of a stretch even then

[opaque helm]

the humble mint:

[arctic hawk]

shes humble not by choice

[opaque helm]

never said she was

[balmy panther]

2 years old

or was it like 3?
remember she was there to open IS4

and CN will have is7 soon

[turbid ocean]

i was thinking more from a year ago perspective

though she was considered good a year ago, even then her damage was low

[undone portal]

as much as blazealt gets shat on, shes still a 6star, and not even really a bad one compared to some of the other stuff we've got (cough ). if you would otherwise be running with no good arts dps, build her

[boreal steeple]

She's just true aoe burst with short cycle, where ak prioritizes longer bursts tbh

[turbid ocean]

ehhhh depends on the content

[boreal steeple]

Thats ehy priorities

[turbid ocean]

the fact she can short cycle was particularly advantageous to IS4 which is why she was so popular

[honest lichen]

which acc should i play with?

[boreal steeple]

Second

[undone portal]

for is4 ed3, lemuen kinda stole her job but yea theres definitely contexts where burst damage is valued

[balmy panther]

last year perception was her IS4 performance carryover

she still is a solid waveclearer

also comparing 30K arts to 30K physical is kinda unfair

considering you need 30 Res to neuter blazer Vs like 1.2k defense in Degen to reach the same neutering

[honest lichen]

why

[pseudo loom]

entelechia s2 (stacked) or s3 for boss killing?

[boreal steeple]

Logos is a core unit, sash also pretty good for story/early game

[shrewd peak]

Blazealter burst is very inconsistent with her bad targetting

[undone portal]

acc value is about the same for both, but logos/sash is easier to work with

[turbid ocean]

But what counts as high res / high defense also depends heavily
but in general both feel like shit on average

[boreal steeple]

S3 is a boss killer, but you just go for s2 since shorter cycle and map-wise dmg

[turbid ocean]

Degen feels slightly better because a little higher quality sure

[undone portal]

s3, but at that point i have to question why youre using a reaper to bosskill

[shrewd peak]

I wouldnt say degen is only slightly better thats quite crazy

[pseudo loom]

rm-4 boss. ente's my only physical burst until i unlock 300aspd for fia

[balmy panther]

I mean light
we all agree Degen isn't wis, Wang, logos, leizi, exu2, hoshi2 etc

but she's not blaze2

[shrewd peak]

Degen is still one of the strongest guards its just newer content has been tailored about these abberrations with 100k+ damage per cycle aoe ignore all defenses operators they keep releasing

[turbid ocean]

i think from the perspective of the top, both look like shit
ill give that from the perspective of blaze shes way better sure

[boreal steeple]

Just use s2 and lane hold at bottom, use other characters to spawn right on top of boss

[shrewd peak]

so a regular nuke operator from 2 years ago doesnt have as many targets to pick

You get bums like chen3 that just deal damage based on max hp 😴 so it just makes it worse for everyone else

[balmy panther]

don't worry sator

the new meta will be teleporting st immortal assassins

[formal shadow]

misery soon...

[turbid ocean]

there is a gap for sure
it just im being critical and the gap seems small from the top

[undone portal]

i would say blazealt feels like the better unit if only because she has the opportunity to deal significantly better damage if you go through the burn application hoop for her. degen gets no such luxury

[turbid ocean]

anyone know if E2 Irene start is better than Degen start now? (is4)

[balmy panther]

lappphone
you mean with Irene mod?

[undone portal]

irene start sounds kinda rough even with mod

[turbid ocean]

how else without irene mod

i guess for properly mileage you want operators to deploy to rdp irene

forgot how it exactly works

[undone portal]

irene seems built to be a mid-run draft, not your opener

[coarse notch]

im kinda doubtful of that

[boreal steeple]

I use saki e2 draft for is4 since she eats almost against every debuff and steady dps, and f3 is free too

[sinful tapir]

2 options for me:

1. raise bobbing - s2m3 to use blaze alter s3
2. give blazer alter s1m3 and use her to lane hold
   i'll give her mod lv3 regardless

[coarse notch]

sakiko in is4 🚮

[undone portal]

leaning 2 if you change s1 for s2. not a fan of blazealt s1 tbh

[boreal steeple]

I dont think so

[sinful tapir]

oh her s2 is solid?

[turbid ocean]

i mean sakiko just does a shit ton of damage
and is4 gets stat checked right now im sure it works

[undone portal]

bobbing absolutely requires s2m3 mod3 to feel fully functional so unless you like him enough to do that dont bother

[turbid ocean]

not what i asked though
if you just want the best start you just do Exu

[coarse notch]

im sure she works but i dont see why you'd bring her when she doesnt really offer much for ed3/4 and folds if you lowroll

[arctic hawk]

no offense bro but you're at like D10 is4 i don't think you have realized the full damage scaling

[boreal steeple]

No im on d13, and know every ending. For ed3 you just draft degen since burst

[coarse notch]

sakiko is like 1 mistimed skill activation away from getting blown up by a shattered champion

[undone portal]

[sinful tapir]

i see, probably will just s2m3 and mod3 blaze alter for now then

[arctic hawk]

that isn't even at the tip of the competitive ice berg unfortunately

[coarse notch]

degen is the 3rd best strategy for ed3

[arctic hawk]

even just dabbling in d15 doesn't mean anything
the goal is consistency which is an entire theory

[undone portal]

ed3 is lemuen country now

[turbid ocean]

its wang now

[undone portal]

oh does wang scale better? noted

[turbid ocean]

and shes right, what "works" in IS isn't the same as whats consistent
consistency is king

5 op sentinel

[coarse notch]

if you have decent relics exu2 core works for ed3 as well
problem with lemuen is that shes underwhelming enroute and ed4 is tragodia creative mode

[turbid ocean]

yeah is4 is cooked until D18

[coarse notch]

is4 is just vaporvenus playground now anyways with exu2 ela and wang

irene opening is interesting tho, ngl her mod is still weird to me

[undone portal]

is4 expansion soon

[boreal steeple]

I mean her conditional module feels kinda tough if she wastes dp

[boreal steeple]

Dp is not really a problem, but well it can work if optimized

[undone portal]

does irene spend dp to deploy herself? should just be automatic if you deploy someone in her aura and shes ready i thought

[turbid ocean]

what why is DP the problem

she deploys for free

[versed shoal]

who should I pick for the orienteering headhunting? I only have monster

[sinful tapir]

is haruka mod worth lv3? it's lv1 rn

[undone portal]

not at all

[sinful tapir]

got it, ty

[pseudo flume]

Sp gen from her isn't that good

[coarse notch]

#1345871184524476457 message
i was curious what the nerds over there thought, its not lookin too good
even if degen open is lower power than irene open somehow, i think you throw away too much power later if you choose irene

[brazen gulch]

||"got the module, thank you" ||

[hushed niche]

is purestream and windscoot worth e2ing for IS?

[coarse notch]

purestream is a maybe, windscoot can stay at e1

[copper axle]

Is annihilation clearable for noobies

[coarse notch]

but they both work well enough at e1

[pseudo flume]

Just strategize well or brute force it with Wis'adel or something

[latent wraith]

This one is the better cockroach right?

[pine plover]

[blissful plover]

Why is there nothing on the support page in RM?

[blissful rain]

im confused what am i meant to do here?

[pine plover]

bugged tutorial

[pseudo flume]

Place the bush

[blissful rain]

where the bush at?

[pseudo flume]

Its because you don't have permission for em, you need to pull the unowned op from the Gacha to get permission to borrow or unlock the Tech Tree Node that removes Support Limitations

[pine plover]

we are going dora the explorer moment to find the bush

[undone portal]

until you hit the support expansion node in the skill tree, you can only borrow ops youve pulled through rm appointment

[pseudo flume]

Also no module and max pot for you because you didn't have em and the pot and module is based on if you had em already

[blissful plover]

Wack lmao, ty

[formal shadow]

try skipping

[pine plover]

was RM tutorial stage also bugged in CN original release?

[undone portal]

tutorial worked fine for me just let closure keep talking

[pine plover]

like closure yap to early before the bush is generated in your hand

[pseudo flume]

Worked fine for mine

[pine plover]

mine was also bugged

[blissful rain]

ow

[urban sleet]

Mine was also not bugged

[blissful plover]

Does it do anything if I own everyone?

[pine plover]

useless tbh, we do have player who own everyone

[blissful plover]

Like me lol

[pine plover]

no like crom_5421

[blissful plover]

#salt-mines message

[feral quest]

for rebuilding mandate after picking wisdel whos the next best operator for big aoe dmg? or do i just grab logos

[pine plover]

outdated

[silver smelt]

what determines ch3n s3 dragon pathing?

[robust thistle]

turn right

[pine plover]

fiammetta

[silver smelt]

And the initial direction is Ch3n's orientation?

[undone portal]

bump into wall? turn right
lots of things count as walls. map boundaries, ranged tiles, red box,

[silver smelt]

So if it never bumps into a wall, it just goes straight?

[blissful plover]

Better? #salt-mines message

[silver smelt]

What about boss hitboxes?

[robust thistle]

bosses are not walls

[pine plover]

not max pot all operators

[undone portal]

bosses are enemies, even if theyre stationary

[feral quest]

no troll? she better than aoe caster ejya or logos with execute

[silver smelt]

So say i point ch3n up at ed1 is4, itll go up, right, right, right and then out for a total of 4 hits?

[pine plover]

s3 with warning outpost to give her +300 aspd

and her s3 is perma skill

[robust thistle]

idk what youre talking about, just make the dragon turn right everytime it hits a wall

[undone portal]

fiammettas in the 12op standard pool, youll get her regardless
if youre gonna use your selector, drop it on tragodia/exualt/hoshialt

s3 dragon just keeps going until skill duration ends

[ancient belfry]

who's worthy to set the tags for?

[robust thistle]

CC dps is shamare?

[pine plover]

the dragon is somewhat similar to what the stove in OR spawns

[silver smelt]

So this is 3 hits to boss?

[undone portal]

kerf thats top op

[pine plover]

top op bro

[robust thistle]

I meant to say ceobe

idk where I got shamare from

[silver smelt]

cc dps is ceobe phantom weedy rosa

[robust thistle]

eh 50/50

[silver smelt]

id take cc ranged for mostima/ceobe/rosa

[pine plover]

in the same way yato s3 hit large boss multiple time?

[coarse notch]

the dragon only hits once per turn

[silver smelt]

idk bro it says enemies can only take 1 instance of dmg before dragon turns

[undone portal]

phantom/weedy are better consolation prizes imo. aim for ceobe regardless

[ancient belfry]

i was hoping to get Mountain but I dont think it's possible given the odds.

alright Ceobe it is.

just asking, why? just short answer

[silver smelt]

good niche op

[pine plover]

so it's less effective against fat ass bosses

[feral quest]

also in rebuilding mandate how do i unlock modules on operator?

[pine plover]

by owning it in the firsthand

[undone portal]

starts outdamaging logos against enemies with ridiculous def values

[silver smelt]

or like its just not more effective

[pine plover]

what the different between less and not more

[silver smelt]

r u fr rn

[ancient belfry]

this doesnt reset if i dont set it yet right?

[undone portal]

wdym

[robust thistle]

it resets if new ops are added to the pool

so you cant 'save it until a better op comes'

[feral quest]

I definitely have wisdel module3 but my e2 wisdel lvl 30 still has module locked

[silver smelt]

how do you get mods in rm

[pine plover]

well, module requirement include level too

[undone portal]

6stars need lv60 for mods, rm takes that into account

[undone portal]

by owning them yourself on the actual operator

[silver smelt]

ah so no mods for borrowed ops

[ancient belfry]

oh so i can leave it for later tonight before deciding carefully on the tags. i thought it would refresh or something

[undone portal]

it refreshes in 2months. you have time, but you cant save it indefinitely

[feral quest]

thanks that solved it

[tepid thistle]

What is the best way to trust farm?

[signal dragon]

base assistant, activity rooms, bring them to a stage you're farming

[echo venture]

the idea is to make a clear with the least amount of operators. then fill the rest of the team with the ops you want to trust

[echo venture]

also

[pine plover]

good thing AK doesnt have gifting system toward operators

[orchid plover]

Hello, why i use ling summons 20 times in is6 to do the sightseers' scroll but it doesn't validate

[pine plover]

did you start with free ling given by monthly squad or your own ling?

[haughty holly]

What mats to farm during down time

[orchid plover]

i used a borrowed one

[pine plover]

well, that where the wrong, you press wrong start run

[orchid plover]

oh ok

[pine plover]

red voucher or whatever you need

[echo venture]

use krooster planner. you can pre farm for future ops

also check /material in #bot-spam

and /cnfarm

[signal dragon]

rocks, chips, red certs

[haughty holly]

omg its suraj

[tepid thistle]

Best support operators to pick for rebuilding mandate?

[pine plover]

see the Explore button on bottom right

you start run from here, not regular operation

[undone portal]

wis'adel/tragodia/exualt/hoshialt/ascalon imo

[tepid thistle]

Is shu any good?In rebuilding mandate?

[orchid plover]

Thank you

[wet pine]

Is this team awesome or should I delete the game and NEVER interact with the fanbase or anything relating to it EVER AGAIN (What do I improve)

[undone portal]

i imagine you could use her for stalling out the mobs to make sure they dont stray too far
keep in mind you start losing life points if theres too many enemies on screen so youll have to kill them quickly

[pine plover]

what she gonna do against crowd?, you need to kill them faster so you dont lose Life Point from overcrowded

[nova nest]

Fandom wiki says:

"All units have 100 ASPD by default"

Are there any hidden reasons for why "+12 ASPD", for example, is written like that and not as "+12% attack speed", which would be more natural, especially since they do "+12% damage" on different effects?

[pine plover]

fandom wiki is abandoned for 2 years

[undone portal]

because aspd is a flat number that gets plugged into the attack interval formula to determine how often the operator hits

[wet pine]

I need help

[nova nest]

Any source for formula or some more in-depth calculation?

[undone portal]

check attack interval on arknights.wiki.gg
fandom wikis been abandoned for years

[median fable]

the attack interval involves two part:

1. the aspd value: every ops has a base value of 100 and it can range from 20 to 600. Aspd buffs are additive between each other, these basically tells you in % how faster (or slower) an operator atk interval is changed
2. attack interval is a stat that's unique for each archetype. Some skill will directly change this value

the math formula is final atk interval=(atk interval+change in atk interval)*100/(100+aspd modifier)

which is to say, if an atk interval is of 2 seconds and we got an aspd buff of 100 the result is that the final atk interval is 1 s (100% faster)
if there is an atk interval of 2 seconds, a direct change in atk interval of like -1 second and an aspd buff of 100 the final atk interval is 0.5 s since you first change the atk interval and then you calc the aspd buff

either use the terra wiki for this infos or the mechanic list sheet in the pins

[pine plover]

a=100/(100+x)*(b+y)

[pseudo flume]

Wao meth

[median fable]

or prts wiki I guess

[robust thistle]

dont we have a mechanics sheet

[median fable]

yeah, we do

it's not updated but covers most of the basic things people need

[nova nest]

Very interesting, thanks a lot!

When you're talking about "direct change of -1 second" in your "0.5" example, that's not from ASPD in any way, but rather from something like a skill of Ptilopsis, right?

"1/(1+aspd/100)" is basically what I was looking for in terms of formula, appreciate it!

[tepid thistle]

Another question I have is that support operators don't have their modules unlocked despite being upgraded to E2Lvl60.Is this a bug?

[robust thistle]

your friends are poor

[tepid thistle]

The modules are unlocked in support

[median fable]

yeah, like Ptilo s2. Everytime you read sth like "reduce/increase atk interval" it falls under that category

[nova nest]

You mean in new game mode? You don't get modules there unless it's your unit

[robust thistle]

or if this is RM, then no modules for supports

[tepid thistle]

Oh ok

[pine plover]

you cant use module if you dont have the module

[brave thorn]

I think Bison could be replaced by someone like Cuora or Gummy. Both are just straight up better. Other than that pretty solid I think

[paper gyro]

Is there a standalone installer via Google play beta for arknights

[pine plover]

nope,

it's essentially just another emulator

[paper gyro]

My game gets signed out and I need to redownload 10gb again, long for a way to back up

[nova nest]

Bison is tankier than Cuora and does some utility (if remembering it correctly), the issue with him is that you don't want to raise 5 star and get his module for slight advantage over Cuora

[pine plover]

he has taunt on s2 or something

[nova nest]

Also gives defense to operator behind him, but yea, he's just way too much investment for what he does

[pine plover]

you can also just kill enemies faster

[proven kelp]

Kill it with Music

[pine plover]

so eben

[ancient current]

cuora is tankier than bison off skill btw

[pine plover]

cuora talent is just raw DEF up

even more DEF with module when blocking

[brave thorn]

Yeah so he's not much better than a 4★, so unless they like him, I'd say not worth using.

[pine plover]

welfare debuff

[brave thorn]

Underflow is pretty good though for welfare 5★

[ancient current]

bison's angle over cuora is that his phys tanking is really good on a reasonable cycle (you use S1 exclusively, S2 is for niche situations), and he has good utility for ranged units ya

the main angle to NOT build bison is that cuora is pretty much equivalent to him for the average player. and cuora is way cheaper to build than him. so cuora is the unit we advise building over him

and to be clear, bison IS tankier than cuora on skill

but

[robust thistle]

something something bread

[pine plover]

new sentry ModY that give +1 range as trait update but she will never get

[ancient current]

underflow is pretty solid, but her util is completely different from the Bison vs cuora angle

[brave thorn]

True, I was just talking about the "welfare debuff" thing.

[fiery canopy]

shileds debuff

[proven kelp]

It has a different debuff than simply being a welfare

[paper gyro]

But welfare = insta pot5

[ancient current]

"welfare debuff" isn't incorrect though 🥹

[pine plover]

Arknigts max pot is 6

[copper oracle]

look at what their pots do
nothing bruh

[pine plover]

-3 DP cost on already bloated DP cost from being welfare

[copper oracle]

the -3dp cost and -10 rdp does nothing bc they have 2dp cost more 10s more rdp vs the same rarity and subclass units

[paper gyro]

Welfares have bloated dp cost?

[slate ridge]

welfare moment

[paper gyro]

What other debuffs do they have

[pine plover]

AK max pot is 6 because havibg the operator is pot 1
unlike enfield

[mental gull]

is schwarz good?

[haughty holly]

Is it ok to farm polyrimized gel instead of the regular gel

[robust thistle]

sure why not

[ancient current]

serviceable but only if you have literally nothing else. not advisable

[pine plover]

whatever the answer, still not good reason to waste pull on kernel banner

[mental gull]

chen the holungday better?

[haughty holly]

ok thx and just farm the one with highest percentage in penguin stats io right

[ancient current]

if you have chalter, yeah just use chalter lol

[robust thistle]

if you would rather farm a t4 mat with single digit drop rate then sure

[ancient current]

that sounds like terrible sanity management

[nova nest]

You could look at PeterYR tables to check where to farm things to be sanity-efficient

Maybe one stage gives ROCK 100% of the time, but another one give it 90% of the time but also drops a bunch of other things

[ancient current]

^ penguinstats does not account for sidedrops, which are just as important. /material in #bot-spam does

[tepid parrot]

Do we have an idea how long till sash alter?

[pine plover]

long enough to save pull

[robust thistle]

check last year's celebration banner

[proven kelp]

Yes
It can come from today to next year

[haughty holly]

well I just did 6 runs on 11-12
got 1 poly gel and 2 regular gel
it is indeed quite horrible sanity

[pine plover]

where are you last rerun

[robust thistle]

I think you already know what youre doing

[pine plover]

we had gel farm just couple days ago

[haughty holly]

surely 100 of them didnt disappear

[frank talon]

A while

[pine plover]

well, you need twice as many alloy for it to be usable

1 alloy to make t4 alloy, 1 alloy to make t4 gel

[frank talon]

What's a good stage for farming R-whatever it's called, the tier 3 star looking stuff

[robust thistle]

/material in #bot-spam

[frank talon]

Ty

[pine plover]

RMA

-# endfield recolor it to blue

[wind mason]

is ejya alter a good healer? Should i replace silence with her? Also who should i replace for surtr ? Blaze/surfer?

[pine plover]

haruka is still better healer in most case

[tropic pond]

Quick question, does mandate have any daily associated?

Okay good, thank you

[frank talon]

Is the green text the best stage to get materials from?

[signal dragon]

just claim resources before it caps in 48 hours

[robust thistle]

if you read the whole table, it tells you what the text color means

[pine plover]

only time you replace haruka with eyja2 is when you cant just shrug off elemental burst or range placement issue

[frank talon]

Oooh I didn't see that part ty

[halcyon solar]

s2 or s1 for m3 on ascalon?

[frank talon]

S2

When do the new stages open for the event

[pine plover]

around 12 hrs

[tropic pond]

Gotcha

[wind mason]

i see ,tho i didn't mean to replace haruka ,she is really good . I just wonder if silence is still good for the distant blocks that haru can't cover . Also how about surtr?

[frank talon]

Ooh okay okay this event is just super fun lol

[tropic pond]

It said limit reached once for me, is it fine?

[signal dragon]

you have hoshi, no need for surtr

[nova nest]

Can you convert tokens to certificates (or whatever it is they get converted to) before full potential, or is it always safe to just increase potential because there's no other use for them?

[uncut fox]

Do lords count as melee units?

[signal dragon]

yes they are melee

[pine plover]

it wont even appear for exchange if the operator isnt max pot

[ancient current]

if you need healing for distant operators you may not have placed them correctly

and anyways silence drone doesn't heal much so it's just peanuts when compared to actual healing

you'd rather just place them correctly than try to compensate

[frank talon]

Melee units means they're placed on ground tiles

[pine plover]

melee and ranged actually refer to their default tile placement rather than attack behaviour

[split sphinx]

shifters can go on low and high (melee)

[nova nest]

What does Gladiia count as? Heard she can be place on either

[glass panther]

What do I choose

[pine plover]

melee

[nova nest]

You mean out of those in the picture?

If not, there's Wis'adel and Logos (so if it's only on image, then Logos probably)

[glass panther]

Already got wisdel

[pine plover]

just pick more AoE dmg dealee

[nova nest]

Logos S1 is great as well, despite Logos not being AOE caster

[proven kelp]

I'd pick Saki

[ancient current]

there is a https://discord.com/channels/586503387072167937/1480479361885933792 thread btw

[glass panther]

Oh fr?

[uncut fox]

That's what I thought, but Ela then exists

[proven kelp]

If you put Ela in ground tiles then she's considered as Melee

[wanton meadow]

JEEZUS the proviso output is real

[winged herald]

Ground = Melee and High Tile = Ranged. Simple logic but wait... Guard Instructor then?

[lethal sundial]

Guys how do i get this background?

[vocal badger]

how do i add modules in mandate

[half sparrow]

Do activity rooms give more trust?

[proven kelp]

You must own the operator and have its module

[cursive maple]

yes

[vocal badger]

no modules for supports?

seems like i gotta roll my own lemuen or smth

[winged herald]

Temp operators from specific armory recruitment have it for free. Like Quercus or Nearl.

[signal dragon]

if you have that operators module and you borrow, then it'll have module
if you borrow an operator that you don't own or don't own the module for, no module in rm

[nova nest]

White to move, what would you guys suggest doing here? (Other than modules)

E2 Shamare?

https://www.krooster.com/u/wise-gray-squid-77kz

[prisma thicket]

What combination to pick

[ancient current]

it was a login event for ch14 as it says at the bottom, don't think it has been available again on CN so far

specialist sounds like the least bad option

[urban sleet]

Top op+specialist for weedy gamble

[maiden thunder]

Phantom IS mod🤯

[ancient current]

finish up your masteries
and a couple more 4* base slaves to e1 ig

[uncut fox]

Wait, does this apply to high tile units being deployed on low tiles using the shoe collectable in IS?

[prisma thicket]

Is aak good

[ancient current]

my condolences

[maiden thunder]

cope his upcoming mod in 6 months

[urban sleet]

Pinecone masteries before sakiko's is certainly a choice, work on masteries
Raise base slaves to e1, look up #r-i-i-c pins for them

[prisma thicket]

Damn

[urban sleet]

You lost the 2/3

[nova nest]

I'll get 6 star M3 ticket from IS6 at some point, will slap it on Sakiko S3, so she's waiting for that, and Logos is in process

[urban sleet]

Wait a min your specter is e2 but sl5

[wind thistle]

do we know exact date when the banner where lappy alter will be sparkable releases

[safe tundra]

only one is required to activate, right

[urban sleet]

Predictjng exact date is against rules, tho we are free to say april-may

[wind thistle]

oh okay thanks

[urban sleet]

Think #r-i-i-c would know better

[safe tundra]

erm

[signal dragon]

should only need one yeah

[maiden thunder]

Didn't even called it SAlt banner but lappalter spark able banner💔

[urban sleet]

Clear priorities, no distractions

[nova nest]

Wanted Texas from Pinboard missions, didn't have Sakiko E2 back then

And now that you mention it, Specter is indeed SL5, she got ticketed to her current standing and wanted materials I didn't have for SL6

[urban sleet]

How does pinecone masteries help with pinboard mission

[nova nest]

Pinboard wants you to get M1 and M2

[signal dragon]

pinboard is permanent btw
also Texas isn't worth it

[urban sleet]

man pinboard such a scam

[nova nest]

She is a cool character though, and I started after Penguin Logistics all got LIMITED alters, so didn't exactly have a choice

[safe tundra]

mind you they dont dynamically update the missions to show how much both HG and oystar doesnt care about it

[urban sleet]

Wait the mission says any mastery right
And not a 4 star mastery

[safe tundra]

it didnt specify so it should be anyone

[nova nest]

Yea, but all I had back then (at E2) was Pinecone, Specter and Amiya

[urban sleet]

[proven kelp]

Probably
You can try it with Exu2 s3 to tell

[dusk cobalt]

mon3tr's mastery priority?

[nova nest]

Speaking of Texas, how serviceable is she if you only have access to Myrtle / Puzzle?

I'm going to maybe get SA2, but that's about it for next 6 months in terms of DP, would E2-ing her be fine?

[safe tundra]

still mid

[nova nest]

There's a mastery guide in pins, says her S3 is the best mastery

[urban sleet]

We recommend s2 these days

[safe tundra]

since you want your vanguards to generate DP, you want them to be alive always

pioneers are built to block waves and thats less survival

[native granite]

what's the best op to choose for exceptional appointment in rebuilding event?

[urban sleet]

Or tbf just do both tho I was told s3's dmg is mid

[dusk cobalt]

oh okok thanks

[safe tundra]

the afk s1 skills theyre built in are also just slower than flagbearers and agents

[paper gyro]

Is her dps that good despite being an healer

[spice nexus]

I don't have ascalon, I don't have Ray. I picked Ascalon, Ray, Logos for this custom banner
Should I roll?

[nova nest]

Check out mastery guide, it has explanations

[urban sleet]

How many pulls do you have

[spice nexus]

49 tickets and 138K orundum
But I want Silverdaddy and Pramanix

Ascalon is used a lot, I'm not sure if I should pull now

[urban sleet]

yeah pull, maybe stop at first 6 star if you cant grind after your pulls

[safe tundra]

you can wait

[urban sleet]

If you want ascalon badly cam wait, she will be in cert shop soon

[safe tundra]

i dont recommend you this but you have enough to spark someone if you dont get silverass early

actually on second thought you can spare some

[spice nexus]

As in 300 pulls?

[glass panther]

Pull or save

[urban sleet]

Refer to pins

[safe tundra]

you have approx 270 pulls in hand

honestly sparing a few on orienteering shouldnt hurt much

[paper gyro]

60k like 100 pulls though..

[glass panther]

Uhm huh?

[safe tundra]

replying someone else

[urban sleet]

Not you shoo, go back to pins

[nova nest]

I'm trying to figure out if she clears "meh, does her job but so many better options like Ines / Elysium / Cantabile" sort of barrier, because if she fits that bill at least, I'll probably E2 her

[glass panther]

[urban sleet]

Tldr: pull if you have lot of pulls/can grind enough to hit 100-150 after pulling on this banner

[spice nexus]

Welp I pulled, not Ascalon
Such is life

[urban sleet]

Save gold certs to buy from shop latrr

[forest ocean]

should I choose to swap click for eyja or should I build surtr?

[urban sleet]

I am still leaning towards surtr ngl, cant go wrong with more dmg

[gentle bluff]

Get eyja and buy her skin

[urban sleet]

[gentle bluff]

Hoshi2 is better version of surtr itself

[forest ocean]

is that for the healer eyja?

[slender temple]

"Buy her skin" it literally does nothing btw

[urban sleet]

True but surtr still helps given the rest of their ops

Well whataver you pick just dont go for bagpipe

[forest ocean]

haha thanks for the suggestions

[spice nexus]

Just grab Eyja

[harsh rivet]

what's the new event about

[warped jewel]

is it better to get the pulls or cert ops

[warped jewel]

RA 2

[forest ocean]

do you all level up masteries for myrtle? which skill is good to level up for her?

[safe tundra]

i raised her and she has proven me that i shouldve never

[urban sleet]

No need to go any higher than sl7 for myrtle

[safe tundra]

too fragile to survive modern fodder, no chip damage

[cyan owl]

So, if I have, say, 279 pulls without OP, I could spare a few rolls on this orientating banner?

[forest ocean]

ok ok thanks

[slender temple]

The only good options to buy with cert rn is like Mlynar and Ines, I'd say buy pulls when there's limited banner active so you got more chance at it (only buy out pulls btw, 258 certs for 38 pulls)

[urban sleet]

Hey you forgot the cert debuts

[safe tundra]

keep your reserves above 200, only if you insist to pull

[cyan owl]

Excluding OP still, correct?

[split sphinx]

do all your dps masteries first. myrtle's is low low prio

[safe tundra]

sure

[burnt snow]

Is it worth unlocking arturia's new second module when I have the OG one.

[slender temple]

Isn't that kinda like, future stuff

[urban sleet]

Not all that far, and we are allpwed to say who's arriving at cert shop

[split sphinx]

with or without OP doesn't really matter just count them all

[urban sleet]

I mentioned earlier since with enough uncleared content you cam grind a lot of pulls in short time, it has nothing to do with your current pull stash

[wraith flame]

How's Phantom in IS?

[woven crown]

can I also unlocked the support operator's module?

[wraith flame]

Apparently no.

[urban sleet]

Find a friend who has the module and borrow from them

[woven crown]

als o if I cancel or remove them, the resources I spent on them will be lost right?

[urban sleet]

If you mean module then no

[wild cedar]

Is this rm

[woven crown]

yes

[wraith flame]

I didn't know this so I took off Mlynar from support, now he's from 0.

To be honest the game reminds you of this, but I was in a hurry.

[wild cedar]

In order to unlock mod u have to own the op and have mod yourself, and yes if you change supports your resources won’t be returned

[urban sleet]

Ah support not mod

[boreal steeple]

Even if i use exceptional appointment on that char?

[wild cedar]

Yeah, they just don’t give you the mod unless you actually unlocked it yourself

[paper gyro]

Do we have a schedule for kernel shop ops? Like who's after ceobe and then who's after that so I can save my certs

[neon siren]

Is she any good for base?

Also who to pick here? Got the selector from a medal??
Like what?

[ancient wind]

Vulcan or Indra

[urban sleet]

Just look up base skills and select

[ancient wind]

Oh shit, we have the same question

[grave seal]

from these i only have mostima and weedy, anyone i should try go for specifically?

[neon siren]

Lmfaooo

[vivid yew]

Is this a good reroll?

[paper gyro]

Monster good

[neon siren]

Id say so yea

[urban sleet]

Crowd control for phantom/ceobe
Or 50/50 for phanyom

[paper gyro]

How many pulls have you dropped to get this roster btw

[woeful marsh]

which of ascalons mods are better?
x is more slow
y is more survival

[neon siren]

Lmao I was wondering too

[vivid yew]

I played until TR-5, so maybe 10 or more

[paper gyro]

Lucky

[urban sleet]

Modx lvl 1
I heard mody has its uses but niche

[woeful marsh]

alr ty

[neon siren]

How many accounts?

[woven crown]

related to the event again, beside W alter, Logos, and Ascalon. who's worth to get first?

[vivid yew]

About 25 - 30, i lost count

[paper gyro]

I find arts dps comfy to use, like entellechia or surtr or hoshino alter

[neon siren]

Oh alr

[wind thistle]

roughly how many pulls does it take to reach the requiresd 258 distinction certificates to buy out all hunt permits

[woven crown]

Nymph good?

[boreal steeple]

mostly from recruitment

[urban sleet]

I assume for RM again?

[woven crown]

yes

[vivid yew]

I'm a returning player, my old account is probably powercrept by now (last played before covid outbreak) and apparently there was a migration so i started a new one

[boreal steeple]

Not really, you need investment and other dps options or aoe options are better

[wind thistle]

mm i see so ive been doing a silly by giving up on bothering with tags for recruitment

[neon siren]

Ohh alr

[glad spade]

who is the best free healer (not including resources needed to build them)

[reef sparrow]

covid outbreak is like mid 2020, so your old account is just months old?

[boreal steeple]

Sussuro and purestream
maybe sneak-in gavial for afk heal

[urban sleet]

We have a thread for this btw
https://discord.com/channels/586503387072167937/1480479361885933792

[glad spade]

isn't lumen better than purestream

[boreal steeple]

Lumen is high-cost and purestream also has status resistance in her kit

[urban sleet]

Yeah but would you be investing in lumen tho

[vivid yew]

Outbreak in my country is around mid 2021

[glad spade]

I meant like not including resources required

[polar pier]

He said it himself excluding the cost meaning he doesn't care

[urban sleet]

Oh wait thr context was RM

[proven kelp]

Purestream doesn't cost a leg to raise
Gamemode tends to prefer to have burst skill than a afk healing, which is Purestream is better
Purestream is one of the highest hps in the game
Lumen is a mael

[urban sleet]

Last point is his real reasoming

[split sphinx]

purestream also usable in IS cause free

[glad spade]

I like males

[urban sleet]

Brocamalacho shrimple the context is RM

[proven kelp]

Lumen still eats more resources than Purestream regardless

Why waste EXP lumen when you can give it to your dps

[paper gyro]

I went all in for hoshialt skill

[fast vigil]

anyone know what does it mean when they say "basic/advanced armoury plug in" for the rebuilding mandate event/

[proven kelp]

It's the stuff on the right of your screen in battle
The buffs

[polar pier]

Why people keep pointing out costs when its said he doesn't care about the cost already. EN players can't read?

[wild cedar]

Leveling resources pretty cheap in rm just don’t waste your skill books

[glad spade]

who's the best afk medic hps wise

[crimson steeple]

When is the exact date for the silverash alt event
I need those star shaped rock farm

[maiden thunder]

Haruka🤯

[proven kelp]

I mean
The other points are still valid

[glad spade]

Medic

[urban sleet]

Such things are againsy rules, most we can say is april-may

[proven kelp]

Who really give a fuck about his afk healing when burst healing is better

[split sphinx]

rule5

[wild cedar]

Monster

[maiden thunder]

Why does it have to be a medic? U want a healer no?

[crimson steeple]

In ask in #cn-lounge then

[glad spade]

no I want a Medic

[undone wren]

Yep same as daily reset. Thank you 🙏🏻

[urban sleet]

It isnt allowed in the entirr server I think

[polar pier]

Which point are valid? Hope? It's cost. Resource? It's cost. Op simply want to know healing strength, not costs.

[median fable]

speculation is only banned in #help

[crimson steeple]

I'll ask in the endfield offf topic chat then

[glad spade]

really? Still not lumen?

[wild cedar]

Obviously no

[polar pier]

You said free right? Mon3tr is not free

[median fable]

as long people don't share datamine content they can guess whatever they want outside of here

[glad spade]

I didn't say free in that message

[maiden thunder]

🥱

[polar pier]

Oh ok, so it's not the previous message where you're asking about free?

[proven kelp]

The part where i said Afk healing is worse than burst healing

[glad spade]

what if I'm afk

[wild cedar]

if you really want to raise lumen how could we stop you
Do what you want

[maiden thunder]

Go haruka🚬

[glad spade]

I just wanna know his niche I guess

[median fable]

you're typing, so you can't be AFK
unless you mean you use in-game afk ops

[proven kelp]

If you want to raise Lumen just raise it

You don't need to fit your needs just to justify building him
It's your acc, do whatever you want with it

[fallen minnow]

So for Rebuilding Mandate, are you supposed to keep repeating some of the stages?

[glad spade]

well thanks

[polar pier]

That's content specific tho. 7-18cc prefers strong AFK healing instead of burst

[split sphinx]

no. get high efficiency and let the idle income flow in

[pseudo flume]

Not really just get Max Efficiency and chill

[random kestrel]

the goal is to reach max efficiency each map

[pseudo flume]

Also move le RM talk to #1480479361885933792

[proven kelp]

If you want to Speedrun, yes
Otherwise you can just wait it out

[cursive maple]

good in relicless clears

[median fable]

yeah, so not Lumen

[knotty wave]

anti negative status like stuns, frozen, etc but its not rly worth the investment

[abstract mauve]

he doesnt really have a niche. he's mostly an AFK healer that's been long overshadowed by better options. he is able to remove negative status effects from allies but being able to do something doesnt mean that it's good or that you even want him to do it

[median fable]

he's one of the best aoe dorm workers :realmad:

[knotty wave]

[odd sky]

3 pp detected

[polar pier]

Ok I missed the part where op didn't say he doesn't care about IS hope usage so my bad. It's definitely not Lumen. So among the free operators, who is the best then. @proven kelp @median fable

[astral thorn]

Is there an rm guide in who to use?

Or besr chars?

[random kestrel]

tldr....
entel with some fodders

[wild cedar]

Ptilo if you count vouchers

[undone wren]

Hello, as a newbie, who should I get in emergency dispatch other than wisadel? For the rebuilding mandate event

[median fable]

depends on context

if it's a newbie then Tequila

[urban sleet]

We have a thread for this event now
https://discord.com/channels/586503387072167937/1480479361885933792

[wild cedar]

Logos, Reed alt, Asca, hoshi2, and yea bring rm conversation to the thread next time

[bronze swallow]

is sad cat alt fun?

[urban sleet]

tragodia?

[tired ledge]

do i need to use drones on tp instead since the lmd production seems low? i'm using proviso with 2 30% workers and shamare-tequila team on the other

[bronze swallow]

rich sad cat alt

is she fun

[urban sleet]

Jessica alt?

[abstract mauve]

fun? fun to use ye. she isnt insane gameplay wise tho

[wild cedar]

If you’re just talking about fun… sure?

[median fable]

next time just say the name

[brazen gulch]

it seems you would benefit a lot from staggering your rotations, i'd suggest looking up "peteryr rotations" on youtube

[urban sleet]

And you shouod be droning your tps regardless

[median fable]

drone proviso tp, should net you around an extra 10k a day

[wild cedar]

@pale tapir someone asking if jessicat is fun to use

[brazen gulch]

is rose salt's passive positive and at what breakpoint? i don't math

[tired ledge]

noted

[thin scaffold]

I have question should i e2 my healer or tank first

[abstract mauve]

e0 pot 5

[median fable]

e2 Saria first

[wild cedar]

Healer if you have no dps to raise ig

[undone wren]

Hoshi2 is hoshiguma alter? But thank you 🙏🏻 and koo too

[median fable]

Saria gets a talent upgrade that makes her more bulky
Ptilo extra +0.15 sp/s is kinda irrelevant

[thin scaffold]

Noted

[median fable]

obv the choice would be to e2 another dps first if it's available

[ancient current]

shileds bestie where do you think Breeze is situated within the 5* chain/aoe medic pool viability wise

[opaque remnant]

can we see your krooster, i'd like to see if there's other options

[thin scaffold]

I don't update it

IM new in this game,i came when sakiko banner release

[pseudo flume]

Press import

[median fable]

ngl, it's impressive

[wild cedar]

Raising ptilo bulk her hp a little so make her a little less likely to get nuked by ranged enemy but that’s just imo

[median fable]

in theory you could get tequila and raise him

[opaque remnant]

I don't see most new players have an e2 max level radian

[thin scaffold]

I grind with suport char

Grind radian

[subtle pecan]

how much time does it take to complete the latest event

[ancient current]

see? that's why I keep shilling IS for newbies!

[thin scaffold]

let me update my krooster

[wild cedar]

Ptilo hp is just too low sometimes she can’t take anything

[raven ermine]

Good thing she's not supposed to get hit

[split sphinx]

wait, you're not supposed to tank with the healer?

[abstract mauve]

healing wise she seems to compare quite well to the other options. still easily worse than ptilo tho. her s1 cycle is actually really quick with slightly more healing than rose salt for instance and a lot better of a cycle but it has no special effects and she loses out on a target

[wild cedar]

No? Ofc you’re avoiding that

[abstract mauve]

s2 has pretty damn good hps but awful cycle

[half sparrow]

Who can tank Talulah's fireballs?

[dusk cobalt]

who is mon3tr's best pairing?

[pseudo flume]

Haruka, Logos, Nightingale

[paper gyro]

How good is horns if she runs as a banner rate up

[abstract mauve]

honestly s1 isnt a bad option for general healing ability

[ancient current]

that was my impression, and although I have never used rose salt even once I was thinking Breeze had the angle on ST due to S1 multipliers. but idk how rose salt performs on ST

[paper gyro]

Isn't logos a caster not healer

[urban sleet]

Garbo, take it from a guy eith m9 horn

[abstract mauve]

rose salt isnt the best on ST

[pseudo flume]

But he can delete the Fireball wave

[urban sleet]

Logos s3 can stall and dekete fireballs

[paper gyro]

Nice

[abstract mauve]

her hps actually isnt allat

[ancient current]

oh I thought the last part of your last sentence still included rose salt in the equation

who does?

[median fable]

Attack range expands, ATK +300%, and attacks strike 4 targets at once; enemy projectile speed in attack range is greatly reduced, and all projectiles are removed when the skill expires. 

read the last part

[abstract mauve]

for the s1 comparison ye

for s2 breeze easily heals more

[urban sleet]

Iirc you are planning to touch content beyong general content akki, get used to reading operator kits for starters

[ancient current]

yeah but garbo cycle for sure. im ngl I never unironically used s2

s1 is just really good because of its cycle, so I sometimes use her over ptilo

[tiny abyss]

-# can't logos s2 also tank the fireballs

[brazen gulch]

projectile removal comes up so rarely (never once borrowed logos for that reason) that i wouldn't blame them for not recalling

[ancient current]

but would ptilo > rose salt > breeze > the rest, make sense

[abstract mauve]

ye that seems fair i think

[paper gyro]

I wanted his s1 to insta kill them but HG said no fun allowed

[ancient current]

ive genuinely never used rose salt so idk about that last part

I'll be honest I want to shill breeze so i was gonna compare numbers and cycles

[pseudo flume]

I like Rose Salt alot because that Dmg Delay is really nice

[abstract mauve]

which part exactly?

[ancient current]

rose salt over breeze

[proven kelp]

Rose Salt doesn't cost an leg to get so she wins!

[waxen dove]

how to get is5 ed4 i forgor

[abstract mauve]

i need to check smthn rq. i've never actually checked if rosesalt talent applied to allies
just kinda assumed it does

[raven ermine]

Check the wiki for those

[waxen dove]

who is rose salt?

[urban sleet]

Or the guide in #is-station

[wild cedar]

Welfare in thornsalt event

[abstract mauve]

5* aoe healer welfare

[median fable]

acshually, it's multi targer healer 🤓

[proven kelp]

This would be next level TL BS if this is somehow doesn't say what it is

ATK -5%, but allied Operators within range receive 15% more healing

[thin scaffold]

https://krooster.com/u/king-2994

[robust pond]

I got everyone's module. I can finally horde resources and prepare for future characters.

[thin scaffold]

any suggestion to build?

[static arrow]

Hey, why rush center for RM?

[formal shadow]

center?

[static arrow]

Center in tech tree

[paper gyro]

I got concrete is she good

[coarse reef]

I just started arknights. What character should i get first?

[pseudo flume]

Base Slaves and E2 Saria, SilverAsh

[static arrow]

No, but she's conk creet baybee

[abstract mauve]

ye took like a second to check and it does apply. so me conclusion is if you are making use of rose salt's talent to buff other healers or if you want to make use of her s2 to survive big healing check then rose salt better. me think that implies rosesalt usually better

[static arrow]

Use Kroos, better than jussica

[paper gyro]

There should be a few selectors in depot

[formal shadow]

not sure what this center is being referred to

[cursive maple]

first dont build the assistant on your screen
second check pins for beginners guide

[reef sparrow]

would you consider to reroll?

[static arrow]

The center of the tech tree, the one with the archive and the big circle
The construction strategies thing

[wild cedar]

Buy Ethan from the red cert shop

[zinc ingot]

Ethan ma king

[thin scaffold]

buy 1?

[static arrow]

Another note, how farm advancement tokens for op promoiton

[paper gyro]

Can't I exchange tokens when my operator is not max pot

[zinc ingot]

No, they gotta be max pot

[formal shadow]

they gives you production system thingy to spawn enemies in stages. when you kill these enemies you get advancement tokens for op promotion

[paper gyro]

Even the kernel ops?

[static arrow]

No but I want more, are there specific modules that are the best

[raven ermine]

E2 sash instead of saria
E1 quartz for base

[formal shadow]

er its in rm pins i think

[wild cedar]

Bring the conversation to #1480479361885933792

[raven ermine]

Also mod3 for logos asap, i assume you lack trust or smth
Mod2 surtr also

[paper gyro]

How good is 5★ fang

[thin scaffold]

yeah not enough trust

[paper gyro]

Is she atleast good in base
With Kroos alter

[raven ermine]

No

[wild cedar]

Idk I just want to say read kit more, as koo said last time

[static arrow]

Oh didn't know that existed, ty

[slender temple]

I'd say I find her pretty fun to use, but for a newbie she's not worth building by any means

[paper gyro]

Does logos have a "breakpoint" similar to how tragodia has at e2lvl78 module

[thin scaffold]

so i need to e2 ethan,sash and e1 quartz,sash can do tank job?

[urban sleet]

Biy ethan not e2 him, you have other priorities

[coarse tide]

Lvl 90 mod3 logos can execute enemies faster

[raven ermine]

Logos elemental buildup depend on his actual damage
Tragodia's is fixed

[thin scaffold]

ok

[coarse reef]

All i have rn

[glad spade]

who would be good for exceptional appointment (6 star of choice appointment) if I've already recruited exualter, wis'adel, logos and ascalon [rm]

[urban sleet]

You'll get more with time

[paper gyro]

Which ops does logos go along with
Similar to tragodia + gracebearer combination

[worthy belfry]

Who should i pick?

[glad spade]

virtuoso

[urban sleet]

If shamare is in there, her

[slender temple]

None, and no. Tragodia doesn't actually need anyone to use with him

[wild cedar]

The breakpoint mainly applies to trag skill2 where the cat’s hit counts are fixed, when enemies are in range needing to give one/two more hits doesn’t really matter that much

[raven ermine]

Ew are we shilling virtuosa logos rn ?
Tragodia grace is a new one too

[glad spade]

I'm not shilling I'm just saying which ritualist pairs with his elemental dmg

[worthy belfry]

dont see her

I also have this

[urban sleet]

Whataver the pins recommend in that case, had a feeling this is an old selector

[worthy belfry]

got this cause i js started game so idk

[raven ermine]

Might as well say none atp
Bringing either grace or virtuosa is just straight up tanking team quality

[urban sleet]

Silence

[glad spade]

I'd take silence pins explains thoroughly

[jade stag]

I havent played for a week. whats new?

[glad spade]

rebuilding mandate, sanrio re run

[paper gyro]

Does logos need e2 to deal elemental DMG
His unit page doesn't show "does elemental DMG" at e1

[glad spade]

module

[tiny abyss]

His elemental damage is module delta so e2 yes

[jade stag]

I'll say Lappland because of silence

[slender temple]

It's from his module, you have to E2 him for that

[wild cedar]

Read…. Wiki…..

[tiny abyss]

He's a core caster

[jade stag]

dang rerun again for something I didnt run before

[glad spade]

sanrio probably won't come back so get the skins

[tiny abyss]

Sanrio also has new stuff

[worthy belfry]

alr thankjs

[coarse tide]

Logos needs me

[jade stag]

definitely. I even buy skins before the having the operators, just in case

[coarse tide]

Mod3*

[glad spade]

[raven ermine]

Twink need twink

[coarse tide]

❌

[azure flax]

which bagpipe skill is better?

[signal dragon]

s3

[echo venture]

2 for afk
3 for burst dps

[azure flax]

aight

[ancient current]

s2 if you don't want to think much and just let her hold trash
s3 if you want to helidrop her

ngl s3 would be more applicable but it needs m3

[wild cedar]

s2 if you’re using mantra

[azure flax]

oh how about lappland

[ancient current]

guard? s2

s1 sees approximately zero usage

[echo venture]

s3 bagpipe makes more sense tho. so id go with that one

deploy. get dp retreat

[knotty prairie]

help

[azure flax]

o lol

[ancient current]

slow for suzu gamble methinks

[gentle bluff]

Gambling for suzu

[echo venture]

krooster has a recruit tool

that will show you all the options

[echo venture]

yeah suzu gamble is best option

[rocky pilot]

Just slow, gamble for suzuran

[urban sleet]

Suzu gamble

[knotty prairie]

alright thanks imma pray

[rocky pilot]

Also what's with the amount of top op tags with trash tags I seen lately

[echo venture]

s2 bagpipe doesnt make sense because that will imply you will leave her on the field for long time. and thats not her job

[echo venture]

thats just pure rng

[azure flax]

didn't knew that's her function

[echo venture]

her job is to deploy her early. get some kills until you have enough dp to deploy the rest of the team

[flat valve]

why i cant find wisadel after i recruit her in rebuilding mandate?did i miss some reading?(i dont own her)

[urban sleet]

Need to have a friend to borrow from via support

[knotty prairie]

I DID NOT GET SUZU AAAAA 😭

[forest quest]

60 people in my friend list, 0 sup unit found for rebuild mandate…

[flat valve]

aaaah

[wild cedar]

In order see an op in support you have to pull them out from the pool first

[flat valve]

fuck did i just waste my points

[rocky pilot]

Well at least the next time you get top op you can at least get some gold crets if you got unlucky again

[urban sleet]

Can cope with trying to solo/duo stages with mayer

[slender temple]

At least the penguin is cute 🐧

[wild cedar]

No you didn’t? Just borrow

[cyan owl]

Hey, welcome to the no Suz team.
(I died three times)

[urban sleet]

#friend-id exists

[rocky pilot]

And at least you tried
Don't be like me who go top op tag only even though the supproter tag was also right there

[flat valve]

okay i'll do that,30 friends and not a single support unit for rebuilding mandate

[forest quest]

I pulled Ejya

[slate ridge]

unlimited support nodeless needs you to refresh the page multiple times
sometimes maybe more than 10 times

friends dont matter since theyre all modless and just take strangers

[wild cedar]

Ejya1 is special recruitment no need to borrow her (nor that you can) the game gives you her for free

[azure flax]

also should I continue pulling in orienteering headhunting banner? I got ascalon now and can do 30 more

[echo venture]

no

next limited banner soon

and its pretty good

[coarse reef]

Well... i got 6*

[ancient belfry]

how good is mostima?

Ceobe is the best pick for this right?

[azure flax]

aight thanks

[urban sleet]

Specialist
Mostima is omrga niche, even then I doubt there's usecases for her outside of clears dependent on your account

[raven junco]

There is no specialist tag in the image

[wild cedar]

What isn’t it supporter in the image

[urban sleet]

Mb top op+dps+crowd control

[ancient belfry]

can i send a pic of my current squad to give context on what i need, i more or less want someone I can use frequently

[ancient current]

dps + cc methinks
mostima will dilute your pool more than anything. do you have suzu/magallan?

[signal dragon]

would take supporter for suzu gamble if you don't have her

[robust pond]

Recruitment is confusing

[urban sleet]

I can assure you that you dint need mostima rn

[ancient belfry]

ill just delete it if it's not allowed

[wild cedar]

There’s hardly anyone in top op recruitment that can be used regularly…

[signal dragon]

all the recruitment options are niche or bad

[ancient current]

it is perfectly allowed, generally though we prefer a https://krooster.com/data/import account to reduce clutter

[robust pond]

I never seen a top recruitment tag

[urban sleet]

Once again, top op+cc+dps

[ancient current]

I would go top operator + supporter, but oh well

[urban sleet]

Wait supporter is 50/50 suzi right?

[ancient current]

yes

[ancient belfry]

im sorry, but Im afraid of giving token, there was a recent case of hack due to access to token (the pull tracker thing in enfield) but this is a different discussion. but thanks for the reminder

[urban sleet]

[wild cedar]

[ancient belfry]

alright thank youuu

[urban sleet]

Supporter also works

[livid lark]

what 5* are good to max?
i have 3 of the e2lv1 to e2max for 5* thingies

[urban sleet]

How about usinh all 3 tags

[ancient current]

krooster remains a safe option, but you aren't wrong to be careful. just keep in mind you can get reprimanded for sending too many screenshots at once, long as you dose them it's ok

[ancient current]

what are your options

[urban sleet]

Showing your roster helps

[wild cedar]

Did you somehow thought angelina was in the pool

[urban sleet]

No I thought supporter had saria shining etc

[ancient current]

that's Support

not Supporter

[urban sleet]

Yeah I misremembered

[ancient current]

ye supporter refers to the class exclusively
Support is a role

[digital pike]

What's Mon3tr main skill?

[ancient current]

s2 generally, s3 is sometimes preferred notably in IS

[livid lark]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/bonker

[digital pike]

Thanks

[wild cedar]

Mutsumi imo

[balmy ibex]

Who would be a good exceptional Recruitment?

[ancient current]

can use one on firewhistle
it doesn't really matter anyway

[urban sleet]

Shamare or save

And holy moly your priorities are all over the place
Check #r-i-i-c pins for base slaves
Raise that mlynar
Ptilo masteries before any of your 6 stars is certainly choice

Can ignore second para if uninterested

[balmy ibex]

fair enought

[wild cedar]

Shamare doesn’t need max level

[livid lark]

i uh
am a bit of an idiot 😔

[urban sleet]

Oh its e2 max mb

[ancient current]

wat will lv80 shamare do

[urban sleet]

I am not free from EN's curse

[urban sleet]

Well now you can un-idiot

Wait whats your base setup I am highly concerned

[wild cedar]

Not a helpful reply duh

[signal dragon]

prio cheap baseslaves #bot-spam /baseskillls
/base for base set up

[livid lark]

i just put all the ones with the highest numbers 💀
proviso and shamare for trading posts tho

[opaque remnant]

I see an e0 level 1 mlynar...

[urban sleet]

Setup as in factory/trading post/power plant

[urban sleet]

Its okay I mentioned all of em let them off now

[honest plinth]

purestream s1 or s2

[wild cedar]

It’s tp/fac/pp (as in 252) no?

[livid lark]

oh
im using 2-5-2

[ancient current]

tbh generally s1, but she uses s2 notably in is5 and probably in IS in general since it scales so well with aspd
may depend on the stage and util you want her to have (consistency/burst) so adapt in function

personally, I mainly use s1 and it's serviceable enough

[urban sleet]

Phew

[ancient current]

but if you have aspd, absolutely use s2

[wild cedar]

Sir I think you need rest

[delicate scaffold]

can anyone point me to a good IS guide? I cant even complete tour guide and cant figure out what Im doing wrong...whether its my operators levels are too low or whatever

[urban sleet]

#is-station pins

[livid lark]

-# did you see my contrail masteries

[wild cedar]

I mean, it’s fine

Use the level 80 stuff on Mutsumi was my suggestion in case you forgot

[urban sleet]

I clicked, I saw, I ignored

[raven ermine]

No need to max shamare tho
Not sure i got the context right, but levels really don't matter for her 90% of the time

[urban sleet]

The context was me misreading e2 max ticket as e2 ticket

[raven ermine]

Oh gotcha
E2ing shamare is pretty good yeah

[ancient current]

uh, either way, using the ticket on an already e1 40/50 shamare sounds like a loss

just e2 her directly

[urban sleet]

Yeah thats why I said either her or save

[raven ermine]

If you care about base you have good targets
Bryo, waai fu, aroma, underflow
Cantabile good for gameplay

[ancient current]

already surfer and puzzle raised so eh

[raven ermine]

They have way enough firepower to not need mutsumi or any ave add ons for that matter

[livid lark]

the first 4 are for base?

[urban sleet]

Thats for e2 tickets not e2 max

[raven ermine]

Yes first 4 are for base
Bryo is the best
Waaifu and aroma synergize together
Underflow is bis tp with ulpi in base

[wild cedar]

You really don’t have better options for e2 max thing other than mutsumi
Or Tin man if you play IS5 specifically

Or surfer I guess

[livid lark]

how much dmg does mutsumi deal?
compared other 5* arts dealers

[raven ermine]

Surfer is a better one ngl

[wild cedar]

She deals a lot more due to fever uptime

110k with fever iirc

[livid lark]

maybe im just not used to seeing total dmg, but that seems like a lot

[raven ermine]

It is, but it's conditional

[opaque remnant]

she's the best of all the ave mujica 5 stars, correct me if i'm wrong

[ember condor]

i picked ulpipi in rebuilding mandate, but he doesn't appear... is it because i don't have him?

[signal dragon]

you'll have to borrow support

[wild cedar]

borrow, and we have a thread #1480479361885933792

[ember condor]

ooh that makes sense

[ebon plaza]

at what point can i actually finish an is6 run? my account's like a month old and idk how far i can get with just a borrowed raidian

[livid lark]

is the conditional fever?
i cant help but feel thats free
since her 1 use of s2 basically fills the bar completely

[ember condor]

okay no one is in support

[signal dragon]

then none of your friends set him as support

[ember condor]

so my armory only got units i own?

[urban sleet]

Get better friends

[urban sleet]

Maxed raidian can solo d15
Really depends on you

[ember condor]

well, lets just say i know now that i have many units i previously don't recall owning

[signal dragon]

rm gives a handful of free ops

[abstract mauve]

compared to other 5*? one of the best. there's only a few that reach those numbers for 5* being rockrock shalem techno and santalla. it's just that each 5* unit has some sort of limitation to them with mutsumi having the least severe one. she gets necrosis'd and loses sp while not being able to activate skill if she takes too much damage but that usually isnt an issue. the other thing is low duration which leads to low total damage numbers. when paired up with the ave mujica group however and activating fever, her short duration can be circumvented

rockrock only deals good damage for half her skill duration and she is stunned after skill. shalem is a defensive recovery skill lmao. techno needs her summons for that good damage. santalla needs a specific setup to reach her potential damage amounts. mutsumi on the other hand is just press a button and she has a good skill cycle

she's basically the least hassle to use and she has a viable niche of supporting sakiko

[ancient current]

santalla damage? really?

[abstract mauve]

her attack interval goes from 2.9 seconds to 0.5 on skill 🥹

[ancient current]

barring the niche at-the-edge-of-the-map-facing-the-edge shit please 🥹

[dire furnace]

her damage is good

[abstract mauve]

i caclulated it to be 2k dps anyway

[dire furnace]

its just gl aligning the planet to get all hits

[ancient current]

i've always used her for the freeze, never really observed particularly good damage (reaching shalem levels, at least) outside of flinger hand slopwork

[abstract mauve]

btw shalem with mod has respectable dps lowkey tho

[dire furnace]

smh

[ancient current]

bro shalem already has more damage than surtr at some point

[dire furnace]

well ye, shalem mod is good

ngl why im on help, i should be on strategy anyway bye

[ancient current]

im nowhere near downplaying shalem damage, I fully know it's good
didn't mention anything about him

[abstract mauve]

i didnt mean that. i meant the mod is good

[ancient current]

how broken is shalem (modless)

[abstract mauve]

it's not even close with mod

[cursive maple]

shalem alter

[ancient current]

holy shit

[abstract mauve]

anyway reason to mention santalla is that she's the only aoe option you can even consider for arts dps

[ancient current]

surtr is a giga fraud

[ancient current]

yeah that's fair. aside from leonhardt, but he doesn't have utility so

[abstract mauve]

the up-time on the res reduction is waaay better with mod. has me excited for it

[ancient current]

santalla is one of the rare 5* splash casters i'd shill. i'm not saying she's bad or anything, just that i didn't see the comparison with her with actual dps ops like rockrock

[cursive maple]

shes good with aspd relics no?

[boreal steeple]

With is2 talent tho

[ancient current]

it doesn't really change that much

[abstract mauve]

it kinda do

[ancient current]

ya she is. great with undulation slop or flinger hand slop. but that's niche and you're buffing her to death

[ancient current]

nevermind idk what i'm talking about

what were talent numbers again

[abstract mauve]

Elite 2
In [Phantom & Crimson Solitaire], ATK +15% and ASPD +30

[boreal steeple]

+15% atk +30 aspd

[ancient current]

idk why i remembered them to be abysmal- what
ok nvm i had WAY lower numbers in mind

mb i dont play is2 let alone draft shalem at all

[abstract mauve]

still currently not worth using in is2 i think atleast but ill try is2 more when his mod releases

[boreal steeple]

Yea mod is crazy dps add

[ancient current]

i don't think shalem is worth drafting in any IS at all

i've experimented with him in is5, he's ok but def recovery + necrosis = explosion
tried him in is6 with aosta start and he's been middling so far but zzzzzzzzz

[abstract mauve]

yeah i cant really make a case for him either. just hope that he'll feel better to use with mod

at the very least s1 i would argue is a potent res debuffer with mod

[ancient current]

s1 is a good skill, though
i think he may have an angle for is6 ed1 with s1 extra max hp and his innate res

still gotta test tho

[abstract mauve]

like imagine going from 25% chance to apply 25% res reduction for 3 seconds to
45% chance 30% res reduction for 6 seconds

[ancient current]

🥹
anyways, this is branching out, moving on

[wild cedar]

Maxed Contrail is ~60k when hitting 2 (~90 when there’s arial and 3 enemies), and her damage is considered good among low rarity

[ancient current]

contrail is lowk a good unit

[abstract mauve]

that feels very uhhh misleading. tequilla has 180k total damage when hitting 3 enemies type shi

[rain forge]

How do I properly use the advanced receptor + river combo it feels like it takes too long to set it up

[abstract mauve]

total damage is only really measures ST
AOE value is taken into account in actual usage

[rain forge]

also how do I effectively use the teleporter

[wild cedar]

Idk they have contrail raised so I’m using it as an example

[sacred cave]

Scale of 1-10 how good is degenbrecher still currently?

[abstract mauve]

the issue isnt that you are using contrail as an example. it's more that total damage is measure ST

[rain forge]

Like a 7

[amber cipher]

Should i buy ceobe if i already have logos & eyja?

[rain forge]

Decently good

[sacred cave]

What's the threshold for being good usually?

[abstract mauve]

probably also 7

[rain forge]

no

[sacred cave]

So she's still gucci, she should be fine then for laneholding with some support right

[rose mist]

Thoughts on using Eyja S3 as helidrop?

[abstract mauve]

extremely outdated ability

[reef sparrow]

been like that since 2020

[wild cedar]

I mean I can use st damage but that great of a difference (30 vs 110) would sound misleading too

[ancient current]

kinda works but so many better options exist now
if you feel the need at any point though, serviceable ig

eyja moreso uses s2 nowadays

[abstract mauve]

she's a nuker not a laneholder. if the enemies are coming around every 30 seconds then sure she can have her ability ready by then

[rain forge]

Did ch3n kill ceobe’s niche

[sacred cave]

Does degen need mod 3?

[ancient current]

mod1 is fine

[rain forge]

1 iirc

[rain forge]

Yall?

[wild cedar]

I don’t think so

[unreal olive]

Is chen3 good

[sacred cave]

Oh then I'm sorted thank you guys, she does work well with ptilo though, i like degenbrecher she's cool

[unreal olive]

Comparable to surtr or totally different

[humble nova]

is Ray better than narantuya?

[abstract mauve]

depends on the situation

[ancient current]

would say ray has different util than naran

[boreal steeple]

Ch3n needs her placement right and maxhp, while ceobe just more conditional on high def

[rain forge]

isn’t ceobe’s whole thing like kill high res + def enemies and ch3n % dmg just does that already

[ancient current]

i don't see naran making elites explode as well as ray

[rose mist]

Can you suggest some good ranged ops for helidrop? Id rather keep Eyja on S2 because of how good it is

[rain forge]

Don’t ch3n’s regular attacks do % dmg on s3?

[wild cedar]

The enemy might not have very high hp

[humble nova]

well I want to put ray in, cuz I rlly like her and her kit. Is there anyone here I can replace

[ancient current]

what's your roster, or the context?

[abstract mauve]

depends on the elite. also naran mod is coming soon anyway

[rain forge]

[wild cedar]

Watch rainchan video in the thread ig

[mossy quarry]

Hello! I have a borrowed Wisadel for Rebuilding Mandate, its supposed to be maxed out (minus pots) but for some reason I cant use her module… why is that?

[ancient current]

ngl, naran can go, or mon3ter

[humble nova]

aight ty 🙏