help

[robust pond]

I checked CN pulls unfortunately 300.

[urban sleet]

Won't texas alt be sparlable at 200 pulls next anniversary next as in 2027

[raven ermine]

It's not that your luck is "that bad"
It's that hitting a random offrate on a 30% chance is very very unlikely

[robust pond]

Imagine wisadel getting discounted and still broken. 💀

[raven ermine]

Check limited gacha odds in pins

[abstract mauve]

errr not a chance she'd be broken by then

[urban sleet]

Discounted ops die down by the time they get discounted

Look at chalter and ling

[abstract mauve]

she'd probably still be good but the average level of units released recently has increased a lot

[robust pond]

Btw I mange to reach the boss of story 9. How strong is it. I haven't fought it yet. My sanity is gone.

[raven ermine]

nian still bis brick all i'm sayin

[slender temple]

I mean I'm going to just pull for both rate up, but Hoshi2 banner took me like 160 so I'm just anticipating for worse case

[random shard]

I mean sounds right. They were running numbers the other day and around 150~ is around 50% chance for both banner characters on a limited

[brazen gulch]

pretty sure that's mandragora. if that's the case, as long as you have someone to stall her she's very easy. unironically harder to kill the floating guys on the left in time

[urban sleet]

Also use pillar mechanic on her, removes her damage reduction or sth iirc

[woven fjord]

Click e1 level 60 for IS5 to get spikes early,
Beanstalk is also good for is5 and 6 at e1 as well but you can skip levels and just go mastery 7 on s2,
Heidi is good for is4 at max investment + s2m3 but kinda luxury as a build since she doesnt fit into gen content all that much.
Krooster is great for is5 as a quilon burst and decent at lower diff is3 as a stunner (but kinda unnecessary nowadays ebcause of the ops we have beign so strnog),
Nowell is good If you plan on doing nofeed ed4 in is3 in the future but again thats a niche luxury build since its hyper specfic
Mint and Wildmane are also decent at e1 since u want s2 for is3 ed4 as a top left pick but thats it (luxury)
Greyy alter if you want to play flinger comp in is5 you really want s1m3 and mod3
Shamare is good for is3 ed4 nofeed as well as is5 in ed4 and 5 but also a luxury build
Gravel is good in IS4/5/6 and really wants mod1 at least for refund dp
Gummy wants e2 + mod3 + levels and s1m3 for is5 and 6
May can be left at e1 but certain strats in is5 like theresis stall really want mod3 + s1m3 investments
Warfarin s2m3 is really good for is4 ed3 burst and ed4 on ur carry for a king
Medic Amiya kinda really wants mod3 for is5

Mainly look at the picks that are good for multiple ISs first

[teal elk]

proof?

[brazen gulch]

if you don't she goes from piss to hard

[robust pond]

I just raw power everything with an executor and sakiko combo.

[woven fjord]

wtf i thought you got evicted

[teal elk]

nope

[brazen gulch]

sakiko will kill left lane easily, idk what exe does but right lane is very easy even with 3/4 stars. for mandragora you just stall her until she gets tickled into second form and then use pillars to nuke her after that

[median fable]

is Degen still used in is4?

[cursive maple]

woah big thanks goat

[hexed adder]

Actual tips

[teal elk]

she is good for the eye guy i think

[cursive maple]

nope but you can use her

[woven fjord]

yes, some older players prefer degen still but exu is superior in my opinion, but nowadays you mainly play speccast and if u get overflux of guard vouchers you take mlynar

[robust pond]

Executor doesn't die easily and can defend a lane 80% of the time.

[median fable]

wouldn't heidi lose appeal in that case? She was basically her bard bot

unless I'm missing sth new

[ancient current]

wasn't modded whisp shilled for izumik? nowell performs better?

[woven fjord]

not necessarily since heidi cycling well with sentinels cooldown was a main reason why she was the preferred bard. Exus standard placement for sentinel still gets bard buffable and is warf isolated buffable as well. You want to squeeze all damage you can onto that dps check of a boss so bards are still wanted since trag also works at e1

[woven fjord]

whisperain doesnt perform it at base at d18, nowell does because you can preemptively give status resistance to ur ops and himself.

[full trellis]

Can lappland silence the boss on go-ex-8

[abstract mauve]

wtf powercrept by a m*le

[ancient current]

yes

[ancient current]

wow... nowell usage...

so whisp is completely a bum

[woven fjord]

sadly yes

[median fable]

one of the rare chance it will

[abstract mauve]

i dont think she was beating the bum allegations even before

[median fable]

she's core in exodia, at least some usage

[full trellis]

That means I can sutr the boss D:

[ancient current]

🥹

y'all coping more than i am

[median fable]

I don't see the correlation

[full trellis]

I wasn't able to sutr bc I would have to sacrifice all my units

[abstract mauve]

wa

[ancient current]

I see the correlation
surtr does no dmg so she needs lappy to buy time to kill

[spare jetty]

wuh

[median fable]

what you can silence is Alistair "time talent"

[abstract mauve]

i used surtr on my main she still performs fine

[median fable]

needs to be defeated in like 400 seconds or sth like that

[full trellis]

Yes no more sacrificing my entire team for time and then losing yo the big unit push.. I hope

[spare jetty]

-5 mmm

[fossil herald]

Hi. I'm a returning player from about 2020 I was wondering what I should keep in mind since going to be trying this game again. (my account got reset it seems and starting off fresh)

[median fable]

how does the silence on him even work. Does the timer reset or it stops only for the silence time

[spare jetty]

u still can get it back

[urban sleet]

You are doing some very questionable things but you are new so we won't judge dw

[ancient current]

it stops. the moment he gets out of it he uses the talent and you die

i mean it doesn't exactly stop

[median fable]

it just doesn't proc

[abstract mauve]

so what you are saying is i should prepare a stun for him as soon as the silence ends

[ancient current]

more like it keeps counting down but doesn't do anything once it reaches the threshold

[urban sleet]

Delayed better term

[ancient current]

it will proc as soon as silence/sleep/stun will end

[full trellis]

Oh.. it just delays the nuke

[median fable]

I hope his Lappland is e2 then

[hexed adder]

Doesn't proc better yea, cause once silence removed he will explode

[full trellis]

It is e2

[urban sleet]

Is your surtr e1

[ancient current]

surtr s1m3 lappy e2 for slow afk kill

👍

[median fable]

consider borrowing btw
and #strategy if you want specfic stage recommendation

[bright bobcat]

this gotta be worth pulling on right?

[urban sleet]

They will actually end up doing s1 masteries stawp

[median fable]

the boss is kinda a joke

[urban sleet]

Pull stash and account dependant, check pins for further details

[full trellis]

The boss is killable for me but it requires the support wisadel which then leaves the big units to crush my weaker units defending

[teal elk]

i wouldbt pull that banner ray pots gud idk logos pots monster probably gud for aspd

[valid walrus]

i wish you could just upgrade raidian the normal way. I hate this mode and it hates me

[raven ermine]

Tbf, looks a lot like banner bait

[urban sleet]

It is a bait banner indeed

[rocky pilot]

How much did you progress?
You can get it back but if is not much I would suggest continuing on a new account instead

[abstract mauve]

it's a good bait banner at the very least

[median fable]

3rd best banner in the next 6 months btw

[waxen quarry]

other than the extra shop points, if i am in a lack of time, can i do the event EX stages after the event ends to get the originite prime without losing out on anything

[urban sleet]

I will be coping for trag+ulpi pick3 banner asw

[raven ermine]

both upcoming limiteds look very good power wise imo, and we still have upcoming mh collab somewhere along next year

[urban sleet]

You get evenr currency for clearing ex stages on normal mode, more than the usual 1:1 ratio

[median fable]

next year, yeah
this doesn't apply for vignette events though (or mini events)

[urban sleet]

Oh wait I misread mb

[waxen quarry]

even this grand overture event?

[fossil herald]

it wasn't much at time time had a few characters from the gacha thingy so im kinda ok with the new account

[hexed adder]

Medals too if u care (not vignette ofc)

[old sapphire]

is it too late to start playing this game?

[raven ermine]

Obviously not

[urban sleet]

What sort of a question is that

[median fable]

this event will be unavailable as soon it ends
it will be added in record restorion with all the other old events 1 year after the rerun

[sacred cave]

When's the trag rerun? End of the year?

[old sapphire]

idk maybe theres like tons of stuffs I already missed on which would hinder my progression and maybe overwhelm me

[slender temple]

I'd say too soon cuz no good banner to reroll rn, wait for tomorrow then

[urban sleet]

Maybe, it's not out on cn either so dk

[old sapphire]

game is around 7 years no? iirc?

[waxen quarry]

I see, so to get the originite prime for this grand overture event the only remaining chance i have left is to either do it now or wait 1 year

thank you!

[old sapphire]

wait banner refereshes per day? wtf

[median fable]

this is the 7th year

[rocky pilot]

Yeah just go with the new account
The older version of new player bonus rewards still applies for older account which sucks honestly

[teal elk]

you missed a ton of stuff namely 7 years worth of progress and probably never getting kernel operators again

[raven ermine]

Progression/powercreep wise, arknight is very tame
There's very little endgame content you'll struggle to clear, and it's mostly for flex points, and there's no rewards associated to those

[rocky pilot]

A bunch of free pulls is always better than a cliffheart

[slender temple]

No but new banner hitting tmr and it's a good one if you start fresh

[modern pilot]

There is a Bibeak in the shop, should I get her? I heard she is good for the base.

[raven ermine]

Kernel operators are mostly trash, but for the few that are good, they are pretty much niche picks only and you'll still be able to buy them in shop

[teal elk]

if u have shamere tequila e2

[raven ermine]

I wouldn't buy bibeak even with shamteq e2'd

[hexed adder]

This siege event usually always on side story cause intermezzi (u just missed medals and event points)

[old sapphire]

yeah shits lowk putting me down... I mean, after those 7 years I never touched the game.. would it even be worth it?? lel

[bright bobcat]

all pin says is what the event is unless im reading wrong

[rocky pilot]

I mean is based on you

[raven ermine]

You skillfully disregarded everyone else's advice, and went for the doom posting one
You do you

[fossil herald]

the rainbow six siege collab?

[old sapphire]

but one thing really intrigues me are THERE ARE SO MANY COOL FUCKING CHARACTER DESIGNS

[rocky pilot]

I joined in launch, then didn't play, joined back on 2022, only returned this year and missed out a lot myself either, but got addicted to the game and that's what has keep me going

[hexed adder]

Vina victoria, siege alter

[teal elk]

stated 2 facts
doompost

[old sapphire]

I want to get atleast some of them 😭

[sacred cave]

What exactly are you trying to achieve here? Do you want the people here to convince you to play the game?

[rocky pilot]

They hired a bunch of artists to work on them to begin with

Also this is still help channel

[slender temple]

I've only start playing for like 4-5 months and I'd say it's never too late to play AK

[weak owl]

hi, guys
are we getting any event next week or it's safe to dump all sanity potions rn?

[slender temple]

Iirc next event doesn't consume sanity to play so yeah dump your pots

[fossil herald]

oh that character... i used to have her lol

[weak owl]

thanks

[raven ermine]

One of them isn't even true, so it's a pretty bad ratio, especially when talking to a complete beginner

[hexed adder]

Its fine ignorable unit too lol

[old sapphire]

maybe I want an objective approach on how would my progression go? how long would it take for me to reach endgame smh? how grindy this game could be?

[frosty flame]

Been using this and there are already stages I cant 3 star, I feel like im missing something, cant do above the level 3 supply missions, enemies just bulldoze me

[teal elk]

its very likely
not optimal to try and catch up and then also dump ur pulls to get gud operators

[rocky pilot]

If you focus on ya pulls and building and base it shouldn't take too long

[old sapphire]

whats your progression state currently? are u in endgame already?

[rocky pilot]

I only played for like 2 months and got 3 6* on e2 already and aiming for more

[junior vessel]

Hello there fellas i wanted to ask , is there any way i will find about the future distinctions certificate shop ? I really want reed the flame shadow and necrass so i am trying to see how long i have to wait to get either of them from there

[teal elk]

endgame is a state of mind

[old sapphire]

about how "too long" are we talking abt here? would it take me like weeks? or maybe a month?

[teal elk]

it would take years to reach end endgame or max risk cc

[frosty flame]

I usually place fang first then saria to either help defend or cover another lane, multi lane waves are also something I just cant manage

[raven ermine]

It's true that there is no definitive "end game"
you're stressing yourself over nothing, just try the game and see how it goes

[rocky pilot]

Stop talking and try it yourself

The more you ask the more you don't want to play

[slender temple]

Idk what is exactly considered as end-game but I can clear most content with ease now (Main Stories, Events and their challenge mode etc.) so yeah it's not too long until you find your peace here

[teal elk]

you would need to collect older ops + some pots while also trying to get good ops to reach there and then there are collab ops u missed

[rocky pilot]

And eventually a total waste of time

[old sapphire]

may I know how many 6 stars you have already?

[sacred cave]

Yeah the only way you can know if the game is for you or not, if you like it or not is by playing. All the talk here won't amount to much

[rocky pilot]

Okay this is going nowhere for me ima just stop

[rain forge]

was orienteering today or tomorrow

[sacred cave]

JUST PLAY THE GAME HOW HARD CAN IT BE

[rocky pilot]

Tomorrow

[rain forge]

god damn it

[rocky pilot]

About 20 more hours specifically

[frosty flame]

Idk what im supposed to do here

And rec level is 20 so I shouldnt be underleveled

[hexed adder]

Around 24 hrs

[rocky pilot]

You can always borrow a support unit

Wait a minute did you even try to deploy your defenders

[raven ermine]

Recommended level is a lie for every level
Fang is not made to tank/block those enemies

[teal elk]

more arts damage and idk maybe try to place a defender to block

[sacred cave]

Place saria one tile below what you have

And use amiya orchid lava if you have them

[hexed adder]

U have tutorial for that with beagle as rewards

[raven ermine]

not orchid, not amiya, steward/click most likely

[wary vector]

learning aggro also helps, like trying to deploy the defender last

[slender temple]

Around 27 but the number of 6* you have has nothing to do with progression tbh. What's more important is how good they are

[hexed adder]

And orchid tutorial at start of ch2

[wary vector]

or if you need to block early, deploy defender, then once you deploy all your ranged units, replace the oldest defender to re-aggro the molotov guys

[teal elk]

lit just needed to do what hes doing but replace fang with saria later

[frosty flame]

They still just walk through

[hexed adder]

Tutorial means nothing for this guy

[teal elk]

😢

[raven ermine]

Kill them faster idk

[abstract mauve]

2 defenders 2 healers no damage dealers

[rocky pilot]

[opaque remnant]

I think you need more dps

[frosty flame]

The damage dealers just insta die when I used them

[plain hemlock]

there's 0 damage in that image

[hexed adder]

The reason they gave u orchid from tutorial, she doesn't need lv

[sacred cave]

You're not using your arts units, you haven't deployed your amiya at all

[signal gale]

How to do this if no friend?

[raven ermine]

Didn't they tell you about aggro mechanic ?

[opaque remnant]

don't let molotovs aggro onto them

[abstract mauve]

get friend

[frosty flame]

Isnt antal also arts damage?

[signal gale]

No friend accept request

[plain hemlock]

deploy vanguard(s) > high ground operators (snipers, casters) > blockers (guard,defenders). Retreat your vanguards if needed to make space for the blockers

[opaque remnant]

him alone will not be enough

[sacred cave]

Yeah you need one more arts unit

[keen hedge]

Hello, any operators increase enemy movement speed?

[frosty flame]

Tbh I barely notice her doing anything when I place her but ig ill try

[uneven kernel]

Does new event tomorrow take sanity?

[lavish schooner]

Guys is this squad strong enough for do all content or need to change?

[raven ermine]

don't use amiya and use steward instead

[rocky pilot]

E2 your sakiko

[raven ermine]

Also you can still deploy kroos/other damage dealers

[teal elk]

not strong enough to do all content

[hexed adder]

Borrow atp

[lavish schooner]

I mean if I build that said is that squad strong enough to carrying my whole content? Except for event content. Event content I think it's can using friends operator that I always borrow someone wisadels

[soft trout]

Aak good?

[frosty flame]

Well this did it, I think getting the saria to aggro the bosses was what saved me

[sacred cave]

Nah bro you're still a beginner by the looks of your squad. The more you play, more stronger units you get and your squad will drastically change. Don't worry just keep playing the game

[severe crypt]

Aak will do nothing for this roster

[hexed adder]

Bosses...

[plain hemlock]

I mean, you can but you should (imo) aim to get a team that can do event content without using support units

[sacred cave]

Yeah agro goes to the last unit deployed. So you typically wanna get your frail units on the map before you deploy your tanks

[frosty flame]

I dont think I have em

[mild turtle]

doesn't aak just kill your teammates iirc

[frosty idol]

hm

[frosty flame]

Thats kinda weird I thought it was proximity based

[raven ermine]

caster + dps in recruitment for steward
He's a 3* so just spam caster tags you'll get him pretty fast

[plain hemlock]

only if they can't survive it aka low defense

[hexed adder]

Mainly only for farm node, other than that borrow is fine if allowed. No need to hesitate

[teal elk]

brodie forgot the 50 aspd

[slender temple]

There literally was a tutorial stage that explains this btw

[frosty idol]

i ask once but then forgot about it becuz of work and other game but how my 4-5 stars

[lavish schooner]

Yeah I knew it's beginners squad ,because I think someone said I need to save orundum for silverash alter and ptilopsis alter ,because these two are good and also if I lose rate off I can get wisadels there ,so someone said to saving ,that's why I ask is my team strong enough for farming ?

[mild turtle]

which one was the one that did that

[frosty idol]

and oh this chat is in slow mode opps

[sacred cave]

It is. If there's more than one unit in the enemy's range, they target the latest deployed one

[lavish schooner]

Yeah I just wait until silverash alter and paramix alter ,I think

[frosty flame]

Alr, also is daily currency really only 100? 1 pull per week from dailies? Seems awful

[lavish schooner]

Thank you

[mild turtle]

is E2 L90 necessary or only e260 for mod

[abstract mauve]

e260 for mod

[plain hemlock]

Sakiko can already do a lot of heavy lifting, even more if you invest a bit in some of her band members

[spare jetty]

e2 max when its ur waifu/husbando

[abstract mauve]

[teal elk]

past a certain raise threshold its better to lvl to 90 than e260 new ops but ure asking that question to i doubt it

e260 also looks really ugly so

[abstract mauve]

cant a man show love for another man without coating it with husbando or in other cases waifu

[lavish schooner]

I'm so stupid when ave mujika event ,I forgot to do the event so I didn't had all AVE mujika member from the event ,I only have wakaba and Uika

[spare jetty]

well uhh atp its dark magic for me

[reef sparrow]

there's also 500 from weekly task and your main source of orundum will be annihilation

[mild turtle]

uh no

you get 700 orundum per 7 days, 600 from weeklies so that's 1300

then you get 1.8k orundums from annihilation (if you've cleared Chernobog, the lungmen stage i forgor, uh.. and current annihil stage)

you get 3100 per week, 5 pulls

[spare jetty]

u get 5pulls/week btw

[raven ermine]

more than that even

[lavish schooner]

I forgot "borrow operator" features and not doing AVE mujika event 😭😭

[spare jetty]

since when its 600 from weekly

[plain hemlock]

oof, well at least you won't have to decide which ones to invest lmao. Luckily, mutsumi is pretty cracked at generating fever

[mild turtle]

oh sh- it's 500 my ass forgot

😭

[sacred cave]

You have mutsumi, she's the best out of them

[rocky pilot]

@frosty flame Okay know you beaten it already but this is what you should do

(Amiya is too overleveled so I used click and I don't have saria so nearl work just fine, maybe)

[frosty idol]

i come back later for my question lol

[plain hemlock]

just ask

[lavish schooner]

Owhh ,I think she is useless ,the I kick her from squad and realize that my Sakiko a little bit weaker than before 🙂

[teal elk]

help i can not play the video

[lavish schooner]

Owhh ,maybe I got wrong invest because I do more invest to Uika than mutsumi

[plain hemlock]

she's iffy by herself, but you mainly want her to generate a ton of fever so sakiko gets double skills

[hexed adder]

Focus on ur sakiko, u can worry about that later

[lavish schooner]

I still don't understand about AVE mujika special pasif ,but i still try to understood about that. Maybe there Will have a way for me

[lavish schooner]

I hope I can do it ,because Sakiko upgrade resource is too expensive 🙁

For newbie 🙂

[plain hemlock]

just think of "fever" as a bar that fills up when the band members do certain actions (which are mentioned in their talents). when it fills up, which you can see by the musical note below your band members, when you use one of their skills, the whole band will use their skill for 20 seconds.

[hexed adder]

Humus click and pinecone fine for general use (e1 them). But priority wise e1 ur base workers first /baseskills #bot-spam . For 5*, tickets and teambuilding stuff read pinned stuff here. ptilo on of the nice to have 5* in that pic

[lavish schooner]

Ahh ,i see so did it work to all Sakiko skill? Or just her 1st skill?

[plain hemlock]

Also, only the skill you activated uses the SP so you can activate Uika or Mutsumi skill to use up the fever and preserve Sakiko's SP so she can cast again

[lavish schooner]

I only have these operator

[hexed adder]

Yea its all about grind and patience, u can grab her stuff from annihilation drill first rewards, IS, or even RA. Nowadays newb has abundance resources, no need to hesitate to grab them (their main purpose to help u with faster building units)

[plain hemlock]

it works on every skill from every member. The ones that have no duration, like Sakiko S1 will just be spammed (once per second or something, not sure)

[lavish schooner]

Sorry ,but I think I made a mistake about that

[lavish schooner]

Owhh ,ITS cool

[hexed adder]

U mean dualchip, then yea work on ur base and workers first, i can see a lot cheap workers not raised

[subtle dawn]

So since I only have like 40 pulls and I doubt imma get 150 by tmro so should I just skip logos and invest in click?

[formal shadow]

it's alright

[lavish schooner]

Maybe just need a little bit more time for grinding again

Did Ethan really need to upgrade?

[hexed adder]

Raise ur base slaves first

[lavish schooner]

And gravel

[formal shadow]

he's a good upgrade option

[honest plinth]

skk s2?

[formal shadow]

s3 unless afk

[honest plinth]

skk>leizi right?

[formal shadow]

er duno

[lavish schooner]

Did Ethan > amiya?

[formal shadow]

two different tools mate

[lavish schooner]

Owhh ,I think both are dps

[plain hemlock]

different operators, assuming you mean leizi alter

[honest plinth]

what's leizi good for?

[nimble kite]

Killing everything around her.

[ivory terrace]

leizi2 has damage

[ancient current]

ethan is a staller with bind. he has 0 dmg
amiya is a dps-ish

[hoary ruin]

Leizi Alter can wipe entire waves of enemies by herself.

[copper oracle]

he has good dmg for hitcount enemies ‼️

[honest plinth]

and sakiko does something similar?

[sly hedge]

Brothers you guys know when is the SilverAsh alter banner release for global?

[paper gyro]

Does arknights cause windows pc to freeze sometimes when running

[nimble kite]

...
Yeah.

[copper oracle]

shes single target

[formal shadow]

somewhere around may

[lavish schooner]

Owhh ,I see. Amiya arts DPS ,and Ethan just bind and make enemy stop for a moment ,I see

[plain hemlock]

Leizi is more multitarget/aoe oriented than sakiko

[hoary ruin]

What's better than one nuke? 2 Nukes.

[copper oracle]

shes not demolishing waves lol

[undone wren]

Hello anyone with silverash e2 to be borrowed please?

[rocky pilot]

Ideally for ulpipi I go s2 yes?
I am making him a lane holder

[formal shadow]

can't expect a power drill and a pizza cutter to do the same thing even if both separate materiel eh

[nimble kite]

Lanehold is S2, yes.

[lavish schooner]

I think it's around 2 or 3 weak?

[ancient current]

did you check #friend-id

[paper gyro]

Mine is skill 7 no module though

[hoary ruin]

Some time in April or May. Is our best guess.

[lavish schooner]

Sorry ,I'm just too stupid for make a difference between all operator ,who is good for now and future who is good but in back days

[plain hemlock]

Also, Leizi is significantly tankier than sakiko

[rocky pilot]

I can use someone like surtr or degenbrecher if I am not using his s3 yes?

[sly hedge]

ooh I hope before 35days, cuz I have advance materials ticket from daily log in rewards, planning on using it to boost E2 him if I got lucky lol

[plain hemlock]

like almost 2x as much hp and a bit more resists

[mild spoke]

any good beginner resources?

[raven ermine]

Check pins yes

[formal shadow]

this channel's pins and #r-i-i-c and #is-station

[echo venture]

/newtips in #bot-spam also pins

[slender temple]

Yes you can, it has nothing to do with Ulpianus skill. (Although I'd prefer using S3 for most situation but it's up to you)

[raven ermine]

I'm not sure what you mean there
Also for most intent and purposes, s3 works just as well for laneholding, and is the better skill overall

[rocky pilot]

Alright noted

[raven ermine]

No warmup time, versatility, and i frames you can abuse easily

[frosty flame]

I see, ive been following the beginner teambuild guide in pins but is it really ok to level operators that fit there? Idk if itd be a waste of resources to level lower rarity operators

[rocky pilot]

I'll decide

I could go for both but will waste me more resources I see which works the best for me then

[slender temple]

Instant stun + high dph, reposition when it does matters. I don't see why'd you use S2 over S3 unless you're too lazy to press the button

[nimble kite]

I would use S3 that way, if you want to click skills.

[rocky pilot]

The problem is that I am not lazy I always tend to forget some skills can be used when they're up

[ornate dust]

Afk ops are a thing

[plain hemlock]

that's a pretty significant part of the game for you to forget

[raven ermine]

It's better than reposition, it's redeployment
You clear elemental buildup, and you have iframes both when you click it, and when you retreat

[slender temple]

Isn't that like 90% of skills in the game

[nimble kite]

I could say for sure: if your Gladiia is unbuilt and you ain't gonna tank the boss with his face, just use S3 for everything.

[sly hedge]

Im a beginner aswell, and 3* Ops is great. they can help you progress the story with little resources/mats. and you will also need them to farm resources for your higher Ops. I maxed all of my 3* ops then if my maxed out 3* ops cant progress anymore because of my skill issue I will use my higher star Ops then.

[raven ermine]

Maxing all your 3* is a waste tho
Some are good, but most are trash

[slender temple]

The thing is that you don't have to max EVERY 3* ops as a beginner, only the significant ones is fine

[sacred cave]

Do not max all your three stars, most of them are terrible

[slender temple]

Like Kroos, Stewart, That furry dude I forgot his name

[ornate dust]

Ansel is a decent IS healer for 0 hope

[slender temple]

Each 3* cost 100k lmd to max out so yeah it's still quite expensive if you go for everyone

[sly hedge]

and the other thing is as a beginner, knowledge gap is really a big deal. so 3* Ops with a simple, safe and easy to understand kit is important for me as a beginner.

[rocky pilot]

3 stars are cheap to max but honestly I say no
Only the ones that's useful to you or can work as a base slave, maybe

Just save them for 4* or 5* and 6*

[sacred cave]

Kroos, spot, steward, fang, ansel, midnight, melantha are good

[raven ermine]

uh no
Midnight melantha and ansel are a waste of mats

[sacred cave]

Definitely, but they're at least better than the other 3 stars

[slender temple]

The thing is they can only get you so far, I'd say around chapter 4~5 and above you'd already need better ops to help you out. So knowing which 3* to prioritize is also important

[teal elk]

i loveeee kross

[rocky pilot]

@frosty flame Maybe listen to what they're saying rn about 3 stars

[patent heron]

Ansel will very likely be used to help with is 2 3 and 4. Can't call it a waste of mats lol

[teal elk]

raise kross and stewerd

[minor sonnet]

Guys I'm returning player and "unfortunately" I have the 243 base. I have to upgrade some good units like Shamare Tequila etc but can someone let me see how a "good" day should be in terms of productivity? At least an average one, I don't pretend the best setup possible, rn I'm pretty familiar with the best/good units to combo but I want to see the numbers at the end of the day, thanks in advance

[nimble kite]

Bro, it's even better than mine.

[raven ermine]

Early on it's definitely a waste of mats
They have access to silence/ptilo and worst case scenario, there's sussuro
They'll raise 3* for IS when they'll need them

[abstract mauve]

are you able to send the output of the last 3 days

[sly hedge]

uuhhmmm I think that is the point of a 3* Ops... when you reach that point of the game I think we will already have the resources for the higher * Ops, and replace the 3* Ops that you have a better rarity Ops

[patent heron]

Fair

[sacred cave]

80k lmd is very very good, but you might wanna up your gold production as well

[abstract mauve]

80k is very good if it's every day 80k

[urban sleet]

That's either exodia or 80k ome day 10k other day

[raven ermine]

This is bricked base if it's 80k daily anyway, your gold prod is nowhere near enough

[abstract mauve]

if you drop to 30k for 1 day then it isnt really 80k

[teal elk]

u need better gold bro -1 fac

[raven ermine]

You take the average over 3 days

[slender temple]

Yes but you don't have to max out 10 unnecessary 3* for that still, that way you can start building stronger ops faster

[minor sonnet]

No way it's the best but I re-arranged some units now, yesterday it's not even close and honestly I don't even know how I reached 80k proabably some massive drones usage

[severe crypt]

80k peak =/= 80k avg

[raven ermine]

That's just "overflow" from one day to another
Work on your gold workers, exp is a bit low too

[sacred cave]

Yes but when you say 3 stars it's not all of them, you need only some of them. The heavy lifting these days is done by the higher rarities anyway since the game gives out a lot of freebies which decreases the need to use lower rarities

[teal elk]

80k average is for cursed proviso aim 65k maybe
but ure missing 1 fac its suck gold production and exp

[sleek finch]

well that is 57k average

[minor sonnet]

yeah I meant I don't even know how I reached that, it seems way too high honestly. Should I aim for? 60k daily? 70k? I don't know. The 51k I know it didn't work the whole day cause of re-arranging thing

[nimble kite]

On LMD you're actually in perfect condition.

But yeah, EXP and Gold production are running low. Pump their numbers.

[raven ermine]

60k is good ish, 70k is a good base, 80k is exodia most likely
But you need to sustain it gold wise

[minor sonnet]

Safe zone is like 1k gold bar? I feel like I swicth off 1 battle exp for 1 gold bar?

[sacred cave]

Atp you'll run out of gold

[nimble kite]

100 at least. But according to your data, maybe 300, because lost per day is actually fast.

[raven ermine]

Safe zone is enough gold prod to sustain everything
If you're running shamare/tequila you can leave a slightly higher gap between gold prod and lmd prod because it's kind of "gold bar discount" in a way
But just look at your depot over a week while droning tp, and see if you lose or gain gold

[minor sonnet]

Is it even possible to downgrade and swicht to a 252? Unfortunately I have all maxed out, back then I stopped at Rosmontis, I don't remember

[nimble kite]

It's not me like who has 1-2 Gold lost daily and can make a decision in about 6 months later.

[raven ermine]

You can, max right 252 is still better than 243

[slender temple]

My base is 252 with maxed right side, can still ditch out 65k+ lmd a day just fine (only if I don't screw up the shift switch)

[raven ermine]

I'm a bit busy with endfield nowadays so my base is a bit of a mess, but i hit 70k lmd 30k exp daily with 252

and that's without exodia

[plain hemlock]

wait, what's the use case for 243 then?

[sly hedge]

Brothers what skill to use for Honeyberry? is it S1?

[minor sonnet]

wait when you say exodia are you referring to some specific units combo?

[robust pond]

Any Gacha wizard here. I was telling my friend I had 100 pulls ready for silver ash alter. I said. I need 200 more for a guarantee. He's telling me I only need 40 more. And is claiming 140 is guarantee. Huh...

[slender temple]

Only if you have exodia set up which requires lotta limited ops to pull off

[raven ermine]

Slightly more credits per day but most likely, none
Exodia iirc is ran with 243 also

[winter crystal]

You have like a 70% chance at getting him with 150 pulls. Something like that

[plain hemlock]

no need for wizardry. you need 300 to guarantee him but 140 pulls is usually enough and gives you a fat chance at him

[raven ermine]

Yes, a mix of two very expensive teams, with multiples limiteds in it

[robust pond]

Extreme confused noises

[slender temple]

150 pulls is already a good chance of getting both rate up, 200 if you're unlucky. You have to be the unluckiest mf to actually hit 300 to get the limited

[winter crystal]

If you have the worst luck then you’ll need 300 pulls but it’s so very rare I wouldn’t expect that to happen

[dense anvil]

What they meant is the expected value, you're expected to get him at more or less that number, but not guaranteed by any means

[reef sparrow]

yes just s1, but don't invest too much on her

[nimble kite]

Trust farm

Most ops skills (like Minimalist) works correctly with 243

Perfectionism to max out your base

[coarse notch]

unit combo consisting of 9 limited units, including every sui sibling, virtuosa and rosmontis

[robust pond]

I'm getting 300 mainly for wisadel. I'll probably get silver ash before. 300.

[sly hedge]

u know any Ops can remove debuffs like frost, etc? that a beginner can get easily?

[minor sonnet]

oh, I want Virtuosa and Sui I want them all, maybe maybe 😆

[raven ermine]

Just don't invest in honeyberry imma be honest

[abstract mauve]

lumen mainly. therapists in general can reduce the duration of stuff like that. it's not worth using them however

[robust pond]

I lost every single rate up pulls up to now. I don't trust this game. I lost on Haruka and that green hair guard 2 times

[slender temple]

Wandering medics are just bad, the only exception is Eyja alter herself

[dense anvil]

😔 we quickly realized that we don't actually care about elemental healing except if it's slightly annoying in the form of nervous impairment, then wandering medics just suck ass at actual healing

[robust pond]

I have no sanity. I wanna grind. This ain't fair.

[raven ermine]

Grind IS and RA

[hoary ruin]

Have you completed all IS stages and RA?

[nimble kite]

IS awaits ya

[winter crystal]

Buy the monthly sanity booster

[plain hemlock]

it's more that they didn't push a lot of elemental damage in content tbh. HG could be making our lives hell without elemental medics if they wanted

[robust pond]

What is that????

[sly hedge]

oooh gatcha, I have Lumen tho not max Pot cuz I cant complete SN-10 LMAO

[raven ermine]

the main takeaway there was to not use lumen

[robust pond]

That doesn't sound F2p friendly.

[slender temple]

Building Lumen for this specific reason is kinda ehhh questionable too tbf

[minor sonnet]

Thanks guys for the heads up!

[hoary ruin]

Roguelite game mode with 5 different modes and a lot of good 1 time rewards.

[winter crystal]

Sparking wisadel doesn’t sound free to play friendly either but here you are

[robust pond]

LMD currently broke

[abstract mauve]

i wouldnt say questionable. just straight up a bad idea

[sly hedge]

ooh so just stick with Honeyberry then ye?

[nimble kite]

Roguelike.

[robust pond]

That's no life grinding. Which falls under F2p.

[viscid flare]

vina best skill is 3?

[hoary ruin]

I dunno how much, but I'm pretty sure each IS gives out some LMD.

Anyone know offhand how much LMD you can earn out of the various IS?

[raven ermine]

Good thing for you, there's a lot of lmd in IS reward tracks

[slender temple]

Just use your typical medics. Silence, Ptilopsis, Sussurro, Puresteam etc

[robust pond]

MONEY MONEY MONEY

[winter crystal]

That’s poor decision making that falls under sparking 🚬

[robust pond]

I don't trust my luck. Blame fate or something. Literal fate not fgo.

[winter crystal]

The real question is if you get sash alt in 30 pulls are you going to keep pulling 270 more times to spark?

[slender temple]

If I ever has to go 200 pulls in SA2 banner who should I spark, is it Rosmontis

[raven ermine]

most likely yes, there's nothing really relevant there

[winter crystal]

Ros is actual monster in IS5

[robust pond]

🐧 will you believe if I say I haven't even thought of that possibility.

[plain hemlock]

100 pulls for rosmonpipi? ah nvm, she's only 200

[winter crystal]

“Only”

[slender temple]

20 pulls for both rate up trust

[raven ermine]

The average for both rate ups is like 150 ish from memory
So nowhere close to 300

[robust pond]

Btw fought the stupid boss in floor 9. Got destroyed.

[abstract mauve]

which boss

[raven ermine]

Mandra ?

[robust pond]

Idk her name. She fires light beam or something and destroys my hp.

[plain hemlock]

100% mandragora lmao

[robust pond]

I need to level up a certain fire chicken and snipe her.

[cinder stag]

can u only use exu alter s3 deploy thingy on her range?

[raven ermine]

There's pillars on the map ?
Mandragora isn't really hard, keep at it you'll manage

[urban sleet]

Fia?

[winter crystal]

Oh god fiamenta no 😭

[cinder stag]

got it, thanks

[raven ermine]

You can use a blocker and medic to pretty much perma stall her early on

[slender temple]

Yes only inside her range, has to be ground tile also

[robust pond]

won't that work?

[winter crystal]

Just a bad use of resources raising her

[reef sparrow]

why would you think using fia would work

[plain hemlock]

I am obligated to tell you that you're based before (and after) help chat starts calling you names

[slender temple]

Use the mechanic against her or else you brute force her with some OP ass ops (I did the latter)

[plain hemlock]

she was a challenge back then but now you can just murder her with current top tier ops

[robust pond]

She mechanics?

My plan was just to sacrifice my guard to hold her down and kill her from a far.

[ebon plaza]

are there any centurions still worth e2'ing? i've left blaze at e1.40 and have just been running mountain and sakiko to do the same thing

[urban sleet]

leave it chat, they will get better with time, they are relatively new

[plain hemlock]

just use a gravel if you want to hold her down for a bit

[raven ermine]

Erm tbf even back then mandragora was nothing crazy

[robust pond]

I might have not level her up.

[raven ermine]

No need for anything meta to bruteforce her

[slender temple]

Centurions kinda washed atm I think, the best is gavialt I suppose?

[urban sleet]

#r-i-i-c pins for base slaves
She was meant to be e1-ed for base anyways

[plain hemlock]

only gavialter and pretty creeped by ops like ulpi and hoshi2

[robust pond]

There are base slaves.

[urban sleet]

Slavery is eternal

[ebon plaza]

that's unfortunate, i haven't been able to get my hands on the more meta units so far so ig i just gotta make do for now

[urban sleet]

If you have nothing meta you can raise her yeah

[robust pond]

damn

[winter crystal]

That’s a crazy statement outside Arknights 😭

[slender temple]

You've got Sakiko so you're good, just make sure you pull for the right banner so you have more of busted ops

[winter crystal]

You can show your krooster account and we can see if you’re ignore anything useful

[plain hemlock]

Tbf, the more meta units are usually overkill so gavial is fine unless you're tackling very hard content. Like ulpi will obliterate pretty much any enemy and you will never see hoshi2 close to dying

[robust pond]

guess it's time I start using my brain to play this game. Ooga booga can only get me so far.

[urban sleet]

Indeed feel free to visit #strategy if stuck

[robust pond]

Nevermind. I'm too lazy.

[hoary ruin]

Yep, Saki just needs someone to stand in-front of her sometimes, her S3 melts stuff pretty well.

[ebon plaza]

lemme pull that up one sec

[plain hemlock]

the more good ops you get, the less brain juice you need

[urban sleet]

Get wang in future ez

[robust pond]

💳 = solves everything.

[ebon plaza]

i asked this channel a while back and the consensus was e2 sash > saki mod > sa mod
https://www.krooster.com/u/banji

[plain hemlock]

wang will completely brainrot the playerbase

[urban sleet]

I have seen ppl with the most meta units syruggle so dunno about that

[hoary ruin]

I dunno....people have trouble flying Liberators. Wang gonna confuse people even harder.

[slender temple]

Tbf Leizi banner kinda damaged my account to this day, lost 90 pulls total, got Reed and Jessica but the hag didn't show up

[urban sleet]

Imo wisadel would still be tbe comfy pick cuz so much clicking needed for wang

[robust pond]

💳 = Solves all problem = 🧠 20% brain power.

[plain hemlock]

I mean, wang is basically a "click on enemy to murder him and his entire house" op, can't be that hard..... right...?

[slender temple]

Having a problem with liberator at all sure is concerning

[robust pond]

🐧 btw I recently used a support character. That uses a cat. Is he standard or limited?

[urban sleet]

We are talking about ppl who use typhon and sakiko s2 for afk

[trim bough]

In is4 ending 2 you can still hit the boss when it starts running from hp loss right
So things like tragodias cat can still affect him

[slender temple]

You mean Tragodia? He's a standard op

[winter crystal]

Since your whole squad basically revolves around sakiko you can raise her band members which will create good synergy, you want to raise mustumi, uika and umiri, umiri can be sidelined for a much cheaper E1 Ethan in the mean time if lacking resources,

Consider building enchilada as her Y module is coming and it gives her a significant buff

[hoary ruin]

It confuses me too tbh. They boil down to placing them in a good spot early and then using skill when boss or a lot of enemies coming.

[robust pond]

💀 That cat is op. He's just there.

[plain hemlock]

Damn, I can't believe there are players who will actually need to rack up their brain to play Wang

[severe crypt]

They’ll prolly activate skill 3, and wonder why his ammo isn’t going down despite attacking 🥹

[desert mulch]

Should i upgrade Saki module to lvl 3 or its optional? Also same question abt skill specialization

[severe crypt]

Damn, that might genuinely happen

[ebon plaza]

are these before or after sash s2? i'd love to build empanada cause her kit seems super cool but i'm not too sure if i'm in that position rn. also i'm probably not gonna build the other band members aside from the ambusher

[urban sleet]

Lvl 2 minimum as its her breakpoint
And masteries are a must for main skills of good units you use

[slender temple]

Optional but if you got nothing else to do and not broke, yeah sure

[hoary ruin]

"Why doesn't Mylinar do anything when I place him?!"

[winter crystal]

Ok well the ambusher is the one op you can sideline I was talking about 😭 also I’m not sure on the specific date of the Y module

[urban sleet]

Erm we actually had that case 💀 a guy said mlynar sucks because he doesn't attack off-skill
His mlynar was e0 asw byw

[severe crypt]

Someone ping me in 6 months when someone has this exact issue with wang

[desert mulch]

Also i have a question, i saw a lot of ppl who rate Surtr really good, but i dont see that much impact at E1, guess she has a lot of potential at E2 and what is it?

[slender temple]

I bet some don't even read ops abilities before bringing them into a stage

[severe crypt]

No, no they don’t

[languid lance]

may I ask why I can't block the spies on this stage?

[random shard]

Read enemy description

[ebon plaza]

wait really? all the information i've seen says that the ambusher was the only one worth building

[urban sleet]

Had a recent case about this indeed

[slender temple]

She kills things on S3 then she off herself

[urban sleet]

Read enemy descriptions, there's a guy who makes unindentified civilians unblockable

[plain hemlock]

oh god, just thinking that this will surely happen to someone in the planet

[urban sleet]

Outside the band comp idea none of the 5 stars are worth building

[desert mulch]

Damn, guess its good for bosses or a lot tough enemies if her damage worth retreating

[slender temple]

To make it simply she has a good burst DPS skill that can potential 1 cycle some bosses and elites, she used to be the best op and a delete button when she's released

[plain hemlock]

umiri and mutsumi are the good ones of the bunch ASSUMING you're using them with sakiko to support her

[tender sleet]

Is Tragodia Good?

[urban sleet]

She retreats only if deactivate her skill during skill duration

After deactolivating her skill, hoshiguma2 and her allies in her range are effectively immortal for 11 seconds (yes thats right) amd she triples her skill dmg iirc

[plain hemlock]

Insanely good

[winter crystal]

Yes she’s very good but remember what I said, if you’re low on resources, I said this specifically bc these 5 star band members want E2 to function fully with sakiko

If you have all the resources then it’s mustumi umiri and uika last bc uika will replace a healer imo

[ebon plaza]

e2?? damn that is expensive

[slender temple]

He's asking about Surtr btw

[urban sleet]

I am blindeth

[ebon plaza]

in that case for now i'll do e2 sash > e2 ente, i don't fw avemuji enough for allat

[winter crystal]

Umiri is a side grade to Ethan and Ethan is a cheap 4 star that only needs E1. Ethan doesn’t have any synergy bonuses with sakiko tho

[desert mulch]

Wait, u talking abt hoshi2, i was talking abt surtr or did i get anything wrong?

[plain hemlock]

Yup, ig that's kinda why they made that "build 5* characters" mini event

[urban sleet]

I was blind dont mind me
As for surtr she was the 'wisadel' at one point of time, now she's relegated to being decent and not meta

[winter crystal]

Try to at least add E2 mustumi to your squad at some point to see how it is or borrow her

[ebon plaza]

hey but lowkey the uika s1 actually completely nullifies the ghost dogs back during the event

[modern pilot]

Hey guys, how much gold is too much? I’m sitting on 800+ and my trading posts can’t keep up, even with provioso and tequila. I’ve even droned a bit and I can’t get it down for long.

[desert mulch]

Oh, ok. So if i dont have Wisadel i think it will be good option to E2 Surtr?

[urban sleet]

That was a metaphorical comparison

[slender temple]

Can you send your Krooster here in case you're missing some good op in your roster

[desert mulch]

Sorry, but what is krooster?

[urban sleet]

Mental note: never make metaphorical comparisons whem not talking with non-regulars

[ebon plaza]

i'm reading her kit but honestly don't really understand what the fuss is about? like geniune question cause dollkeepers were not a thing back when i was playing

[severe crypt]

Krooster.com, a roster tracking website

[ancient lintel]

After they die they revive into doll form and heal up

[native cargo]

aint this a better stage than 1-7 for rock farm

[desert mulch]

I found it, but should i put my ops manually or i can put something like my id or anything else?

I think im kinda dumb

[ancient lintel]

If it doesnt guarantee the rock then it isnt better than 🇧🇷 - 🇩🇪

[ebon plaza]

import button

[copper axle]

where did all the skins in shop go

[ancient lintel]

Their rerun ended

[plain hemlock]

Gone with the wind

[ancient lintel]

Wait for another rerun XD

[native cargo]

oh ig GO-7 is better than 1-7 no?

[ebon plaza]

right but from what i'm reading her talent 1 is damage reflection right? is the necrosis the main part of her kit?

[native cargo]

what

[plain hemlock]

it is if you still have stuff to buy in the shop

[ebon plaza]

i do not believe so although i cannot prove it

it's better if you wanna buy in the shop though

[native cargo]

21 for a guaranteed blue rock is so much value than 1-7

[ancient lintel]

Which op is that? The collab ones?

[ebon plaza]

mutsumi wakaba, dollkeeper

[urban sleet]

GO-7 has higher efficiency for rocks iirc but 1-7 has sidedrops hence 1-7 prefered more

[ancient lintel]

I believe she's just a tank lol
Idk what the necrosis part is about

[ebon plaza]

talent 1 reflects damage and sends it back as necrosis

if i'm reading this kit right

[frosty flame]

Who? Andy?

[urban sleet]

just read

[ebon plaza]

i'm not? damn

[plain hemlock]

it's a reference to her very "good" mental health. she takes both damage and necrosis damage so she generates 6 fever per hit taken or dealt while in skill

[ancient lintel]

Ah she's a fever generator, right

[ebon plaza]

SHE GIVES HERSELF NECROSIS?? lol that is hilarious actually

[desert mulch]

https://www.krooster.com/u/dmakhs

[abstract mauve]

the main thing with mutsumi is that she is able to build up fever very quickly to support sakiko. she builds around 60-70% in 1 skill usage. that's using her s2 btw. s2 is also just a decent-ish damage skill especially for a 5* unit

[plain hemlock]

she receives less damage, but the tradeoff is that some of the damage is dealt in necrosis instead

[ebon plaza]

honestly hearing that she gives herself a debuff i'm sold on her. so like, e2 sash > e1 max mutsumi > e2 ente sound like a good timeline then?

[plain hemlock]

she's basically a punching bag with liquid brain inside

[slender temple]

Yeah building Surtr should be your next prio also consider raising Sakiko and Hoshi2 S3 if you could

[desert mulch]

Ok, tysm ❤️

[abstract mauve]

entel is higher prio but e1 max mutsumi is less investment needed. should be fine either way

[desert mulch]

Is it worth to pull next banner with logos and others or its better to save for sash alter?

[ebon plaza]

noted, got my plans for the next like, month and a half then

[slender temple]

How many pulls you have rn

[desert mulch]

~40

[plain hemlock]

only if you can still afford a lot of pulls for sash AND you don't have the best of the bunch in the orienteering banner

[ancient belfry]

Where can I farm these faster?
farming individual crafting mats or RA or IS?

[ember grail]

whats the better skill for ely?

[native cargo]

does ptiliosis also buff sp recovery of offensive and defensive recovery units?

[raven ermine]

If they are available in IS try to get them there
Farming mats outside of events is pretty inefficient
If you decide to farm, check penguin logistics and farm t3s, then craft in workshop
Also, you can get a bit of mats in green cert shop and parametric shop in a pinch

[raven ermine]

For dp generation, s1
When you need your flag to do a bit more than raw dp, s2

[boreal steeple]

Sole exception is 1-7 for rocks

[raven ermine]

Yes, i forgot to mention that

[ancient belfry]

Thanks, will farm them from IS.

[raven ermine]

Usually, you stockpile 100+ of t3s during events, so that you can last until the next event
But yeah, story can get quite expensive for not much gains

[ember grail]

welp, i guess what made him better than mytle was the talent and sometimes s2

[urban sleet]

Pretty sure ely produces more dp, just the rate is slower than myrtle

[raven ermine]

No the dp gen is higher too
First cycle is faster with myrtle, but starting second skill cycle, ely wins

[ember grail]

ohh i see thx

[ember grail]

This is compared with s1 ely right

[raven ermine]

Yes, s1 ely vs s1 myrtle

[severe crypt]

Technically all other flag s1s as well

[ember grail]

[rain fjord]

Should i invest in theresa ?

[coarse notch]

no

[brazen gulch]

if you have to ask, no

[rain forge]

“Should I pull Wang”

[lone valley]

U should never show up here again

[rain forge]

[lone valley]

So lucky i cant get nitro rn :realmad:

[rain forge]

[candid eagle]

should i get mon3tr

[void summit]

@rain forge Help me

[rain forge]

no

[void summit]

So much for a #help er

[signal dragon]

hi endy

[rain forge]

im on uto today

[void summit]

Hi

[rain forge]

(unpaid time off)

[teal elk]

i cant help u

also u cant use that emote in help

[raven ermine]

Which is a shame, bring back our rights

[next socket]

Need help out of all the beginner characters who is the best to get? im new and when i search for a tierlist it always show endfield

[coarse notch]

also avoid tier lists like the plague

[frigid stream]

check pins

[next socket]

Oh ok

Is the new banner good? she looks awesome

[severe crypt]

If vina is still up, she sucks

[next socket]

Ouch, her banner looked majestic too

Guess I will have to make tthorns work

[severe crypt]

Tomorrows banner would be much better for newbies

[next socket]

Oh ok then imma just keep my yellow orbs

[severe crypt]

You could consider rerolling on that, and then just following the pins for selector choices

[next socket]

Oh is thorns bad?

[severe crypt]

Well th beginner banner/selector ops are all old with Silverash being the only ops with proper dps burst

You’ll end up with 2 of them anyway

[frigid stream]

hes not bad, hes just powercrept into oblivion

[next socket]

Oh ok, maybe teh 3k orig wasnt worth uit

[lusty snow]

Welp I can’t pull on orienteering, I didn’t save enough

[thin jungle]

Soo just download and got some free stuff

Senior operator voucher and classic one

[frigid stream]

predicted it

[thin jungle]

Do I use it now or wait

[severe crypt]

Pins have the best choices for those selectors

[thin jungle]

Oh alr thanks

[rain forge]

Also

[severe crypt]

Also

[rain forge]

for the record, imo the specter e2 reccomendation isn’t worth it

[severe crypt]

It’s still a point of contention rather

[thin jungle]

What’s that

[abstract mauve]

F.A.E. explains the choices that are available and makes the recommendation for Specter

tequilla already functional at e1 max

[rain forge]

the newbie voucher guide reccomends you pick specter and use the e2 voucher on her

imo it’s not worth it, the main reason that reccomendation exists is because newbies were too dumb to use tequila properly

[abstract mauve]

or even e1 40

[thin jungle]

Oh alr

[abstract mauve]

the "too dumb to use tequilla" part i dont agree with either. tequilla just isnt a particularly good carry in early chapters

[severe crypt]

The e2 specter rec kinda grew on me, I agree with it now

[abstract mauve]

yess more must join the hivemind

[frigid stream]

resource and base wise its better still i would say.

[abstract mauve]

base wise? where is a newbie getting shamare??

[frigid stream]

well tequila is free

[abstract mauve]

ok?
his base performance isnt worth the e2 if player doesnt have shamare

[rain forge]

[coarse tide]

Okay but they can wait till summer event

[severe crypt]

Not now block

[frigid stream]

why e2 yall said he was functional at e1

[abstract mauve]

yeah that's why we are recommending specter e2 since tequilla works at e1 ye

[neon siren]

Guys when is maintainance??

[rain forge]

tomorrow

go to sleep

[severe crypt]

#game-news message

[hidden wolf]

how long is maintainence

[frigid stream]

ok i feel like you just came to the same conclusion as me

[neon siren]

In how many hrs from now?
Also how do yk it's night for me

[severe crypt]

Believe it or not also #game-news message

[rain forge]

pins

don’t question how I know

[coarse tide]

Omg how worth is orientation

[hidden wolf]

when vina banner ends

[neon siren]

😭 alr

[severe crypt]

For you? Dump all pulls in

[abstract mauve]

ye it is the same conclusion. i was just confused by what you meant

[coarse tide]

Must get hoe🗣️

[hidden wolf]

bro go in game and see how many hours until the current banner ends, u will know when the maintainence starts

[lyric lagoon]

pins is also an option

[severe crypt]

Sadly en wants spoon

[frosty flame]

This is the best base layout?

[abstract mauve]

no because training room should be level 3

[lyric lagoon]

this ain't even spoonfeeding anymore, this is mouth to mouth feeding like a mother bird to a baby bird

[neon siren]

Alr alr

[coarse notch]

also ignore the nonsense its saying about 243

[severe crypt]

Yeah you stick with 252 for the indefinite future sans some special cases

[coarse notch]

im special thats why i run 243

[severe crypt]

No it’s cuz you lazy

[coarse notch]

[abstract mauve]

is a 531 base setup possible?

[raven ermine]

[lusty snow]

Uhhh

[abstract mauve]

bleck is special case. this advice only bleck should follow

[random shard]

#r-i-i-c message

[lusty snow]

Oh, I already know I won’t be pulling since I have 23k

[rain forge]

with no dorms probably

[sinful tapir]

Hi shat, what’s rebuilding mandate abt

Great, #help hell hole is finally dead

[ancient lintel]

From what I know it's just another species of RA

[abstract mauve]

loop hero

[signal dragon]

ops start at e0
you build your roster through rebuilding mandate gacha
your clear stages, you'll gain more passive income which you'll use to upgrade your ops
there's buildings that give a resource when placed in a stage
stages have a resource cap

it's way better than ra

[abstract mauve]

it's worse than RA

[signal dragon]

I found it more fun

[sinful tapir]

Hm i see, sounds like the thing made for masochist

[abstract mauve]

i liked the croc priestess fight

RA is like 3 actual stages in a trench coat anyway

[signal dragon]

fair

[next socket]

is it possible to go past chapter 1 without doing a x10 summon

[signal dragon]

yes

[coarse notch]

yes but like why

[raven ermine]

ofc, there are no pulls account

[next socket]

Someone said not to pull for the beginner banner and wait till tomorrow

[raven ermine]

That's if you're rerolling

[coarse notch]

thats if you're rerolling
fuck

[severe crypt]

No no I didn’t say that I said rerolling

[next socket]

I just did reroll

[coarse notch]

...tomorrow, not now

[raven ermine]

misinfo rbp

[signal dragon]

rerolling is making new accounts for optimal start

[severe crypt]

I SAID TOMORROWS BANNER GODDAMNIT

[abstract mauve]

rbp ASKING to get slimed

[coarse notch]

ref do something about rbp

[severe crypt]

[next socket]

Im sorry i did it now 😭

[rain forge]

rbp don’t listen to them slime him out

[coarse notch]

you've lost nothing just reroll tomorrow

[next socket]

so do i just abandon this one that i made? or do i not play this til tomorrow

[coarse notch]

if you're rerolling you'll be abandoning a lot of accounts tomorrow

or maybe you get the target in one reroll who knows

[rain forge]

between mon3, logos asca and ray who would be the best one for a new account

[next socket]

Oh then i wont play this incase i dont get...the one i need

[signal dragon]

you can play to learn the game till tomorrow if you want

[raven ermine]

Basically what rbp said was
Start an account, pull, if you get something good, keep it, if you don't, start a new account and do it again
The thing about the banner is that tomorrow's banner has better target than our current banner
Also beginner banner is basically guaranteed, so you can always pull it afterward

[coarse notch]

logos > ascalon > ray > mon3tr imo

[next socket]

whats the name of the operator im getting tomorrow?

[severe crypt]

Thanks favourite frenchie 🥹

[coarse notch]

logos

[rain forge]

there will be a pick 3 banner tomorrow

pick logos ascalon and ray

Logos is the best outcome

[raven ermine]

i'd tend to agree, with ray being somewhat interchangeable with asca imo
She's just worse at e1

[coarse notch]

all three are strong, depending on how much time you want to invest in the reroll you can stop upon getting a 6 star or keep rerolling for logos specifically

[next socket]

Will it be good if i got all 3?

[signal dragon]

ofc

[rain forge]

Obviously yes but the chance of getting all 3 is low

[coarse notch]

yes but unless you have ungodly luck or reroll for a billion years that wont happen

[abstract mauve]

uhhh if you get 1 you should stop pulling btw

[raven ermine]

You won't even pull a x10 anyway so shileds is right

Just pull singles until you hit and dip

[next socket]

Oh ok, i thought its like "if y aget one, get all to optimize"

[coarse notch]

getting all of them with the 7 pulls you get to reroll might actually take you weeks

either reroll until you get one of them (lowest time commitment) or until you get logos specifically
either option will give you a monumentally stronger start

[drifting prairie]

What skill to master on blemishing

[coarse notch]

can you go with none of them

[signal dragon]

if you insist id lean towards S2 but honestly just use the resources elsewhere

[lone valley]

Mastery me instead

[safe tundra]

erm

[jade herald]

[winter crystal]

How much lmd you cost?

[lone valley]

More than u can afford

[winter crystal]

So like 3 fiddy

[urban briar]

Is typhons talent 2 per enemy or actually once per skill

[raven ermine]

Per enemy

[waxen dove]

how many max level exp cards for level 1e0 to level 90 e2

[raven ermine]

https://www.krooster.com/tools/level

[waxen dove]

555.557

[echo venture]

s2 to spam sleep on enemies. s1 for afk
but overall blemi isn't good

[drifting prairie]

I’ll go s2

[echo venture]

@winter crystal @lone valley please use any other channel of the server if you guys wanna make jokes or yap. not here

[drifting prairie]

I’ve found it’s nice to have at least one mastery on heroes, Lee is next on my list

[rain forge]

Please for the love of god do not invest into lee

You are just throwing away resources on dogshit operators

[severe crypt]

too late

[drifting prairie]

Okay Lee is not that bad, and yes already too late

[rain forge]

[echo venture]

that's not how #help works. first you reply what they want. then you give extra advice if needed

if they want to mastery X operator and they want to know the best option OF that operator. you reply that

[rain forge]

isn’t the channel meant to be based off meta advice

[hexed adder]

They probably build everything

[rain forge]

[safe tundra]

lmfao

[hexed adder]

See

[severe crypt]

Aye there’s the rub

[drifting prairie]

I need masteries on these last few favorites, so Lee, Angela, and blemishine

[echo venture]

please refer to channel rule 3

[rain forge]

good lord

[frank talon]

Its called rule number 2 of #help

[drifting prairie]

Which masteries to do on Lee and angelina?

[coarse notch]

s3

[rain forge]

i see

[echo venture]

you can give extra advice. that for example lee or blemi aren't good

[coarse notch]

you will probably never use lee but angelina s3 is cracked

[echo venture]

but first you answer

[drifting prairie]

Bet, is that in IS only or general content as well

[coarse notch]

IS only

lee's only usage is in IS as well but hes severely powercrept there by several iterations

[drifting prairie]

Hmmm okay, ty

[vital kelp]

is one day they gonna add 4th squad slot in base rotation? like currently u can only have 3 lineup to button switch

[frank talon]

We don't know

[hexed adder]

#1211614253354852362

[odd sky]

true 3 slot staggered is pretty ass rn

[vital kelp]

i cant do 4 op rotation for level 3 fac if theres only 3 team slot

[odd sky]

what i did was manually do the last rotation

just do the old trick with the morale manipulation sorting

[grand wigeon]

Do we know who are the best units for mandate? It’ll be my first time doing it

[signal dragon]

don't worry about it
you upgrade ops using resources you earn by playing rebuilding mandate
the ops you get are also sort of random

[astral thorn]

Are they permanently yours

[signal dragon]

rebuilding mandate is its own mode, whatever happens there stays there. doesn't impact your account at all

[vital kelp]

no

[glass cipher]

can you not sustain gold bars when using proviso + drones

[vital kelp]

if u have enough gold production yes u can

[boreal steeple]

Triple gold fac

[balmy panther]

you need 3 gold factories
else you cannot keep 100% uptime

[glass cipher]

yea, im running 2 gold factories, i should run 3 sometimes

[earnest sparrow]

um where to get these?

[vital kelp]

click on "go"

[signal dragon]

red cert store

[earnest sparrow]

no other way?

[grand wigeon]

Thanks

[vital kelp]

u get one from logging in every month and some login events have them

[signal dragon]

IS monthly squad

I can't remember if rotating annihilation gives chip catalyst
it gives red certs though

[earnest sparrow]

btw when should I consider trying my first IS?

[vital kelp]

whenever

[lyric lagoon]

they do

[signal dragon]

you can just borrow a carry
also check out #is-station pins

[nova nest]

Would you guys suggest just YOLO "Senior operator" alone here, assuming I've got red characters?

[vital kelp]

this is god damn hard to read

[nova nest]

These are tags if helpful

[vital kelp]

tbf theres not enuff good op in senior op so like

id do medic gamble for maybe silence but like

[echo venture]

gamble for ptilo/warfa those are the most impactful

[vital kelp]

they have ptilo and warf hermitz its in the picture

[nova nest]

But I have them already

[echo venture]

even if you gamble 50/50 for specter she wont contribute much

oh i misread. thought you wanted the red marked ones

[brazen rock]

Is there a pull prio thing somewhere? There used to be one

[vital kelp]

pins

[lyric lagoon]

roadless camelot

[brazen rock]

What is that

[lyric lagoon]

pins -> useful links -> roadless camelot

[hard prism]

when will camelot have roads

[hoary ruin]

It's a very useful collection of information about the game put together by a dedicated community member.

[proven kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/901726884298100777/1477634343944847461/image.png?ex=69a579b8&is=69a42838&hm=8d3a3df6de00e137a3021193365ffa87021b0396243ea17d5373871539fd3779&animated=true

[proven kelp]

After it gets funded

[hard prism]

faerie knights in shambles

[rain forge]

We barely have enough to fund our red paint

[neon siren]

Is highmore worth building? The fivestara from is3

[vital kelp]

no

[red crypt]

is there any way to guarantee a specific character in orienteering. Or could I just get 1 of the 3 selected over and over again?

[coarse notch]

the latter, hence why you stop after getting one of them

[vital kelp]

ggetting lucky ig?

[red crypt]

I want mon3tr but since she's not getting a rerun I gotta win that 33%

[hard prism]

does ending in monthly squad count for unlocking ending story in is archive

[random shard]

I think most people would just say that if it's 33% monster or 66% dupe you just don't pull at all

She will eventually be in cert shop

[buoyant sigil]

What’s the tankiest op in the game?

[ruby cliff]

Whats the locked one?

[vital kelp]

depends

[buoyant sigil]

For physical, what would it be?

[vital kelp]

still depends on big hit or many small hit over how long

[buoyant sigil]

oh, I just mean raw stats

[vital kelp]

highest defense is cement on s2

[buoyant sigil]

what about res

[abstract mauve]

hoshi2

[buoyant sigil]

Ooh, interesting

[lyric lagoon]

das conk creet baybee

[proven kelp]

Tankiest op is Specter2 for 20 seconds

[buoyant sigil]

Right. Uh, about this, what if it’s 100% new unit I don’t have any of the people in orienteering

[proven kelp]

Read pins

[buoyant sigil]

Yeah, then just wait for sash2 I’m assuming

They better be good. Really good.

[proven kelp]

Maybe read the pins first before assuming anything

[vital kelp]

sash2 is good but really really really good? eh

[winter crystal]

Mudrock can periodically block 99999999999 damage

[proven kelp]

So does Specter2 for the whole 20 sec

[vital kelp]

ulpianus can take 420 damage 9999999999999 times

[abstract mauve]

yall are sleeping on vigil x mod

[vital kelp]

and he can do it longer than 20 min

[proven kelp]

Tbh
Does he have dodge? I honestly can't remember

[abstract mauve]

50% dodge for 10 seconds when wolf head dies. stacks

[astral thorn]

Thx

[hoary ruin]

If you're not F2P, there will be a $30 paid selector coming with SA2's banner in a few months. Mon3tr is one of the ops you can choose.

[vital kelp]

ummm actually umm actually beanstalk with little handie +1 block component is permanently invincible

[proven kelp]

Smh just use Flametail! Unconditional perma dodge!

[vital kelp]

not even dodge it just wont die

[proven kelp]

But Beanstalk does

[vital kelp]

i used to do that when doing SN cuz i didnt have anyone else to block the bloke that deals more damage with each attack

any ways

when S stages open the banner is gone right

[stray gust]

quick check, what farming event is there after the current one (vina)?

[vital kelp]

/cnfarm in #bot-spam

[stray gust]

we waiting for chapter 16 to drop now?

[buoyant sigil]

was it not so? i might recheck things. I clearly remember it saying sash2 is much higher prio ><

[vital kelp]

second message in pinned message

[lusty snow]

What.

[red crypt]

ah thanks. yeah I'll try my luck on the orienteering anyway. no other op I'm looking forward to anyway

[proven kelp]

SA2 is prio, yes
But what I'm saying is to read first before assuming
It's not a good habit to assume things right away

[lusty snow]

If I get paramix alter is she still good

[coarse notch]

crazy work

[onyx mango]

Damn

[coarse notch]

the very thing fae is asking people to read in the message you replied to answers that

[vital kelp]

is sash2 or pram2 the lim

[jolly seal]

top caster

[glass cipher]

paramix cute

[coarse notch]

sash2
most people will be targetting pramalt tho

[hoary ruin]

The next limited banner (the one with Silver Ash Alter AKA "SA2") will happen around april or may.

One of the things coming with the banner is a $30 selector that will let you choose a standard* (non limited/collab) 6* unit of your chose with as long as it's Mont3r or anyone released before her.

[lusty snow]

I’m f2p😭

[random shard]

*non limited/colab released before

[lusty snow]

May have to break the f2p ngl

[onyx mango]

Hi f2p, I'm bayu

[buoyant sigil]

I see, I see
yeah, sorry. Should’ve read before anything.
I see people commenting on sash2; how’s pram2? Is she less prio than sa2 or do people simply mention silverash more

[lusty snow]

Hi bayu I’m f2p

[coarse notch]

pramalt is higher prio for most players

[random shard]

Sash just the face of the banner so mentioned more probably

[coarse notch]

best caster in the game next to logos, all three skills are good and very easy to use

[buoyant sigil]

Wow. Peak banner then. Great utility in one and amazing caster on the other? Yeah, I’m definitely pulling

[coarse notch]

sash2 is one of the best vgs but hes finnicky to work with and shines the most in advanced content so most players will not utilize a large portion of his value

[lusty snow]

Aw

[abstract mauve]

pram2 is both good in advanced content and absolutely shits on general content

[coarse notch]

also ines exists
hes still very very good and excellent in general content

[random shard]

And haven't actually had content released to justify him yet

[coarse notch]

eh, he seems to be a core draft into is6 ed5

[random shard]

That's a far more niche kind of content than a cc or something where it might showcase him more

[abstract mauve]

err. sash2 is only ever gonna see niche usage. same with how ines is

[coarse notch]

not really, a huge chunk of the playerbase doesnt touch cc either

[urban sleet]

Demetri drops on 10th right

[random shard]

Maybe. I just feel like cc is a splash on the front page where people look up homework and try. Alternative endings of IS a lot of people probably literally don't know about

[coarse notch]

cc is just more publicized because of its history, whereas IS tournaments are obscure and comments consist of people throwing hands over operator uage

[boreal steeple]

Ngl after seeing some shit that sash2 does for me he's slightly better than ines

[coarse notch]

in fact id argue that although one instance of either IS or CC isnt a good measure of an operator's strength, the necessity to adapt to low rolls and run state makes IS a better indicator

[random shard]

Fair

[coarse notch]

but yea basically we agree, most players arent gonna push sash2 to his limits either way

either they copy hw or they dont even try the hw

[vital kelp]

to be consistently drafted in high diff IS means that they are worth the cost, like u dont see people drafting ines in is6 but the 5* agents cuz her utility aint worth the hope

[honest plinth]

how do I make useless civilians on the right not die

[coarse notch]

block for them

[honest plinth]

they are

[vital kelp]

throw ur op in front of them

[odd sky]

you have logos

[abstract mauve]

i've always been a sash2 believer. ines aint allat but people glaze her like hell anyway
some people have valid reasons to glaze ines. most dont tho

[honest plinth]

they died even before flame spam

[coarse notch]

did you let the artillery drone get to them

[odd sky]

bait the every 19s double hit from talulah

[honest plinth]

I killed drones in first 5 seconds

[coarse notch]

or the double ignition

[honest plinth]

talulah comes, I deploy smth unkillable?

[odd sky]

the double igniton prio ops not ignited so

[abstract mauve]

either bait or just having a tanky squad

[lusty snow]

If I’m mistaken would crownslayer be used as bait

She’s fast redeploy, right?.

[coarse notch]

preferably you use gravel and two agents

[odd sky]

sure not s3
s3 can be used to block the fireball wave i believe tho

[lusty snow]

Oh

[honest plinth]

killing talu really fast won't solve half of the problem?

[coarse notch]

crownslayer s3 is an issue so use s1 or something

[balmy panther]

shes a stunner
her skills are based on not being targetted

[lusty snow]

Oh

[pale tapir]

her s3 literally takes her off the field lol

[coarse notch]

if you can burst her within the first 19/38 seconds

[abstract mauve]

if you are using crownslayer, just use something other than s3 so she can bait the attack

[lusty snow]

Ik

[honest plinth]

wait a sec, ng's cages won't work as baits?

[abstract mauve]

they do

you only get them when you deploy ng tho. so not enough in this stage

[balmy panther]

NG abuse is the OG way to beat talulah

now just kill

[coarse notch]

its much safer to just bait with two frds
you have logos and three cages, with two frds just reserve the cages you need to block off two lanes and then proceed

[abstract mauve]

just borrow ng or haruka smh

[honest plinth]

borrowing wisadel

[pale tapir]

can the goldfish keep the team alive by herself? never tried it

[coarse notch]

they have both and logos

[abstract mauve]

.............

[honest plinth]

for summons, pretty helpful

[coarse notch]

you dont need to save any cages for deathless inferno, haruka + ng s3/logos s3 just facetanks everything
oh and wis summons also just tank everything

[abstract mauve]

how did haruka die

[pale tapir]

obsessed crazy fan onk style

[proven kelp]

Tulula eat her

[formal shadow]

we struggling with jt8-3 again?

[coarse notch]

h8-4 so jt8-3 pro plus max premium

[formal shadow]

🥀

[lyric lagoon]

satoru logos moment

[formal shadow]

boy do we love civs

[winter crystal]

Whats the website where you can see all the different stage layouts? I’m looking for specific IS6 maps

[coarse notch]

https://map.ark-nights.com/
tomimi.dev is better for IS

[winter crystal]

Ty

[formal shadow]

to tomimi you go

[coarse notch]

idk when they added it but the stage simulator in tomimi is huge

[honest plinth]

......does baiting with evil dragon lady summons not work