help

[split ermine]

[severe crypt]

you can do normal ed1 into ed3

[hollow sparrow]

you just need to clear ed1 iirc

[split ermine]

Amazing, thank you!

[twilit ingot]

ye i almost forgot abt that yes this is true

havent played IS2 for a very long time (alrd maxed out on the pass)

[lilac valve]

Is GG's Y module any better than her X or just meh?

[late magnet]

whats the best way to quickly gain lmd that isnt factory related?

[severe crypt]

IS and RA rewards, and event shops

[dusty hollow]

When do we get IS6? Is there an estimated date?

[severe crypt]

legally isnt confirmed but it would likely come after this event

[thick dock]

oh yeah guys, is there a way to check for operator acquistion date beside ranking

[turbid ocean]

ModY is a little better for less enemy situation
But realistically shes just clearing trash, and modx1 is enough
shes not worth more mod blocks

[hoary ruin]

What is this IS6 everyone keeps talking about?

[formal shadow]

Sui's Garden of Grotesqueries

[turbid ocean]

Integrated Strategies 6th Theme: Sui's Garden of Grotesqueries will be open sometime soon

Side game mode

[formal shadow]

Can't wait to pretend it doesn't exist in a month :ya:

[humble arrow]

Narantuya worth building? Just got her

[hollow sparrow]

yes

[humble arrow]

Which skill is best?

[formal shadow]

S3

[hollow sparrow]

3
1 is good for afk

[versed stone]

how much does it take to but of the yellow certs shops summons?

[severe crypt]

258 assuming you meant the headhunting tickets

[humble arrow]

These are my snipers plus exualt

[severe crypt]

shes def better than pozy

[versed stone]

yeah i menat those im at 232 so close

[humble arrow]

Is she better than lemuen? I never really bring pozy and lem

[versed stone]

depends on the situation

[livid dawn]

imo lemuen handles bigger targets better, narantuya is good at killing waves of trash

[versed stone]

ive seen narantuya do some insane things

[livid dawn]

narantuya s3 can deal a lot of damage to enemies though, as long as they don't have crazy high defense

[severe crypt]

shes basically the updated version of what the marksman class was meant for

[humble arrow]

Barely anything threatening that has low defence nowadays? Or is this wrong take

[obtuse pawn]

Any benefit to running Leizi on my current team?

[severe crypt]

that pot2 shu looking real outta place

[livid dawn]

narantuya s3 is around 1700-1850 DPH, so it's not terrible. Lemuen just has much higher DPH

[severe crypt]

plus naran is a really good mumu clone if that interests you

[humble arrow]

1850 is lower than pozy !

[obtuse pawn]

Yeahhh, I had just started playing when she was on the rerun for sparking 🙁

[hollow sparrow]

naran has actual dps and pozy doesn’t

[turbid ocean]

Mlynars probably easier to use and maybe slightly more applicable for general play anyways
Everything else can stay

[unreal timber]

Leizi which skill to m3?

[humble arrow]

Naran has more dps than optimal pozy?

[obtuse pawn]

Isn't Leizi basically a second Mlynar?

[distant raptor]

who are the 5 stars on leizi's banner?

[livid dawn]

7.2k DPS on S3, assuming minimum range and no module (this analysis was pre-module)

[turbid ocean]

well yes but you wouldn't replace skalter would you 😇

[obtuse pawn]

You know me too well 😂

[slender temple]

Record keeper, a vanilla medic

[humble arrow]

They can replace lemuen tbh

[turbid ocean]

You can slot out Lemuen if anything

[hollow sparrow]

here’s from the dps bot
dunno how accurate this is
tbh both pozy and naran have their own tile restrictions in order to get max dps but i think pozy is more restrictive in placement

[obtuse pawn]

Yeah she's probably an easy swap

[turbid ocean]

Thats about it, Im just think about ease of use for you not necessarily whats just strongest
But everything you use is pretty straight forward anyways

[lilac falcon]

Are Any of these paid packages worth?

[elfin loom]

whats lezi mastery prio?
ty

[humble arrow]

This is prolly without typewriter, and pozy has def shred too. Although it is single target making pozy worse still

[obtuse pawn]

Yeah I'm not trying to run super complicated lines of play

[unique grail]

Is this enough for one full kitty proc on bosses or do i need mod3?

[wary vector]

exu alter s3 redeploys the unit with longest redeploy cd right?

[formal shadow]

Mod3

[ashen token]

Leizi good or what?

[formal shadow]

Or level 88 at mod2?

[slender temple]

Yeah longest CD at that exact moment

[thin ravine]

hmm so leizi is strong but not strong enough to all in because of the future good characters?

[umbral kernel]

I need a good and cheap aoe caster

[thin ravine]

Did I interpret pins correctly?

[wary vector]

so if let's say i use exu alter s3 to redeploy mudrock, can i retreat mudrock for +20 dp

[unique grail]

Damn

[livid dawn]

aoe casters are pretty much all bad, but if you are a new player you can use Lava

[turbid ocean]

But nothings really that complicated... maybe Tragodias too much interaction for you though not sure
Leizi main skill is a little weird range since doesn't go over walls either

[unique grail]

Monki
(There are none)

[umbral kernel]

Damn

[slender temple]

I mean sure you can do that if you insist

[livid dawn]

lava gets the job done on some of those early stages with waves of enemies coming at you

[unique grail]

Should've gotten marcille smh

[formal shadow]

Aoe caster

[hollow sparrow]

this is no typewriter

[humble nova]

leizi alter is high investment right?

[livid dawn]

she wants module 3 and has two great skills + one good skill

[humble nova]

darn

[hollow sparrow]

also dps charts should usually account for def shred

[ebon torrent]

What's that site again? I wanna look at Typhon too

[unique grail]

Does res matter?

[hollow sparrow]

it’s the bot in dragongjy’s server

[obtuse pawn]

I just like making big number bigger and hyper-optimizing as you know. And I like cheap options that work for exu2's aspd steal and yes, Tragodia s2 is way too complicated for me LOL

[livid dawn]

you don't really have to M6 Leizi2 if you don't want to, can just start with S2 since it's closest to the Mlynar liberator experience. Or go S1 for the most unique thing she does

[ebon torrent]

Hmm dunno the server

[hollow sparrow]

no
it just has both in the case of mixed damage ops

[thin ravine]

https://www.krooster.com/u/dorodancestomp Do I benefit a lot from getting leizi

[humble nova]

gotcha, her s3 also seems strong too I think

[soft lion]

Can i set my bday to tomorrow (Dec 13) and immediately get bday stuff?

[haughty holly]

Ok I checked pinned
I didn't see warmy
I'm guessing she's mid because primal caster + burn? @turbid ocean

[livid dawn]

it can be a little map dependent but definitely has some uses

[turbid ocean]

5* + bad = turbo bad

[slender temple]

You do, but real question is how many pulls you've got

[hollow sparrow]

i dmed you the invite link

[haughty holly]

Holy turbo shit bad

[turbid ocean]

burn isn't necessarily bad

[ebon torrent]

Tysm!

[thin ravine]

Hmm should I follow what pins say and don't go below 125 pulls (btw why is it at 125 pulls)

[humble arrow]

Narantuya benefits really badly from aspd?

[unique grail]

Maybe in the long run
Needs quite a bit of investment

[turbid ocean]

because of how loop shooter projectiles are programmed

yes

[haughty holly]

Who are the good burns anyways
Blaze alter?

[hollow sparrow]

mainly just yu

[turbid ocean]

Yu burns good
Doesn't do much with it

[soft lion]

lil help

[hollow sparrow]

blaze is ok but not great

[turbid ocean]

Blaze can't burn by herself on the skill that does damage

[livid dawn]

she benefits decently from attack speed up until a certain point, and then not at all.
The distance of the target also matters, since it's her projectile travel that limits attack speed scaling

[haughty holly]

[hollow sparrow]

loopshooters still speed up their throw animation against far enemies so they gain some dps but it’s kind of nothing

[wary vector]

with s3 naran somewhat benefits better from aspd cus you only waiting 1 boomerang to return instead of s1 where it still chains

but yeah biggest factor is distance between you and enemy

[unique grail]

I feel like ASPD should make loopshooter bullets travel faster imo

[left ginkgo]

is the next collab sanity free

[hollow sparrow]

next mod branch surely

[unique grail]

Surely

Or a new covenant geek situation type deal

[hollow sparrow]

i think that projectile speed is a reasonable avenue for hg to explore next though
but that would probably be in a future kit

[unique grail]

The only sanity free event is the Ceylon one

[wary vector]

i feel a dmg multiplier if enemy is near sounds more plausible than projectile spd, like 1.2x dmg if it's 1 tile gap/ certain 0.xx s travel time

[unique grail]

Oh wait nvm

[left ginkgo]

Ceylon event isnt sanity free

[unique grail]

Is6 is sanity free
(The first part is)

[hollow sparrow]

reverse deadeye
yeah that makes sense

[left ginkgo]

ok, but im asking about this, not IShttps://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Gyoko_Kichion

[unique grail]

No stages iirc so yeah

[kind abyss]

Is Leizi worth pulling if i already have Mylnar and other strong units? I heard she's similar to Mylnar.

[left ginkgo]

how many pulls do you have

[kind abyss]

300+ OPs
And around 40k orundums

[left ginkgo]

then no

[kindred root]

Is collab soon after anniv

[placid niche]

leizi skill mastery priority?

[stray flame]

Why didn't this bounce

[long smelt]

In the interest of being efficient with my resources: is it more worthwhile to focus on 4 stars and up?

[gaunt vapor]

I was not going to pull for Leiz( that was the plan for past 3 weeks). but idk what get to me i just go all in :/ I had 404 pulls ( if empty and exchange everything), now i only got 346 pulls( if empty everything). Am i fucked for Hoshi alt + Sakki event ( probabbly coming in Feb and Marhc)? I will continue buying month headhunting pack for next 3 months. but feel really short on pulls still

[hollow bloom]

She says fuck off to logos/jk

[stray flame]

that's crazy vro

[hollow bloom]

I dont think a line like that bounce or am i wrong idk

[stray flame]

i mean someone said its 8 tiles around

Just weird why didn't it work

[hollow sparrow]

it bounced to her

[stray flame]

ok thanks

now i feel like patrick

[tidal pond]

Got 4 warmys and no record keeper, leizi in 50 pulls. Do I pull for record keeper?

[bitter anvil]

ur fine, dw

[tardy crescent]

Guys, is leizi event doesnt have something to redeem like previous event to increase the currency shop???

[hollow sparrow]

what

[knotty wave]

because you deployed logos first. The crystal bounce prioritizes latest deployed op. You deployed m3 after logos so when you healed the crystal it bounced to the latest deployed op...which is m3 herself

[distant raptor]

im confused on how the event works, do i want white to attack white and black to attack black so that they dont blow up in my face?

[bitter anvil]

oh my god is that written in game? I had the same damn question and now I realize

[tardy crescent]

Uh… kinda hard to explain. Like after you clear the stage, you usually unlock a mission to get additional curency for event shop

[tidal pond]

I thought medics always prioritize lower health? Is that not the case with bouncing heals?

[neat mirage]

what was harukas highest hps skill again

[knotty wave]

its yinyang, black enemy = counter with white vice versa

[slender temple]

You mean event missions and yes there's none in this one

[hollow sparrow]

oh ig this one doesn’t
mini events work differently than full side story events

[distant raptor]

ohh so i want to attack with the opposite colour?

[tardy crescent]

Owhh its a mini event? So thats why the duration is short

[distant raptor]

thank you 🙏

[knotty wave]

now you know better 👍

[tardy crescent]

After this is Hoshi Alter or Another Rerun?

[knotty wave]

is6 bro

[neat mirage]

?

[hollow bloom]

Raidian will be worth building right?

[fathom nest]

She's built through playing IS6 so

[shrewd peak]

theres no resources for you to spend so yes

[gaunt vapor]

we getting kinda ok/CHEAper 20 pulls pack during sakki or hoshi alt banner too?

[late magnet]

how many yellow certifications did i need to get the max amount of pull tickets?

[coarse notch]

258

[fathom nest]

You get 10+14 on Hoshi
10+10 on Sakiko

[formal shadow]

Where's my newbie guide to get raidian e2? :clueless:

[gaunt vapor]

like free or as pack?

[formal shadow]

Free

[unique grail]

What does Lee do?

[gaunt vapor]

will there be packs too? i wanna overstack for Silver ash and his sister

[fathom nest]

Push 0 weight trash around

[fathom nest]

Likely

[unique grail]

That's it?

[formal shadow]

I think there's usually a 10 pull pack

[fathom nest]

You can visit the wiki to see all upcoming event packs

[unique grail]

Then I'm keeping him lvl 1

[gaunt vapor]

i am low on resource kinda ( and i got leiz at 58 pulls) do i build and max her S2 or S3? also i heard her S1 actually OP in IS ( ofc she need module 3)

[formal shadow]

Lee diksa permastall to make my phone scream in pain

[knotty wave]

s2

[unique grail]

Only op with two is modules right?

[neat wyvern]

Is leizi alt worth it?

[unique grail]

Mostly

[neat wyvern]

Wdym mostly

[gaunt vapor]

not really worth it as new account

[formal shadow]

If you have the spare pulls, yes

[gaunt vapor]

i feel like librater a bit hard to use if u dont already have Half a good team. like tragodia solo carry quite hard earlier on

[unique grail]

She's low priority if you're low on resources (high investment) and if you already have uncle

[coarse notch]

thats a joke lmao leizi is cracked on a new account

shes worth it as long as you have the pulls for future banners

[gaunt vapor]

how? with no resorce she mostly at E1 and cannot block. module need to grind

[formal shadow]

E1 leizialt isn't that terrible

[coarse notch]

she has usable skills at e0 and e1, blocking is a nonfactor when you have 11 other slots

[gaunt vapor]

yes E1 leiz is ok. but not as tradgodia E1

[unique grail]

Tragodia passed so who cares?

[coarse notch]

no shit its tragodia

[knotty wave]

you put a liberator in front of a blocker so it doesnt leak -.-

[unique grail]

Nobody saying she's better than him

[formal shadow]

There's a reason tragodia was the highest prio of recent banners

[neat wyvern]

I don't think I really need her but wanted to know if it's broken or something

[unique grail]

About as broken as młynar

[coarse notch]

shes the strongest single operator in the next 6 months

[hollow sparrow]

reroll for offrate tragodia angle

[median fable]

tragodia AND leizi2

[gaunt vapor]

leiz is better than mlynar if counting IS but mlynar is more easy to use/higher dps ?

[median fable]

[gaunt vapor]

cuz mlynar got shoter duration but doing more damage? but total dps leiz is higher

[median fable]

arguably Leizi2 is easier to use since you don't care about her getting hit

[coarse notch]

not that simple, they're just different units
mlynar is better across IS except for is6 where hes still kind of a sidegrade
and leizialt is arguably easier to use on her own because of takeoff, you can deploy her super aggressively

[gaunt vapor]

but isnt S2 air damage cut down by alot?

[median fable]

I'm pretty sure Leizi2 is used more in almost all ISs

[crisp dawn]

mlynar gets the upside of hitting through walls on his main skill

[coarse notch]

definitely not is4
mlynar solves ici, sentinel, and ee much better

[gaunt vapor]

but leiz can be usable at E1 inside IS but mlynar S1 ,S2 kinda meme

[crisp dawn]

only because she's usable at e1 or is she just straight up (slightly) better

[coarse notch]

well yea, you dont do mlynar start obviously

pretty sure is3 also features mlynar more, same with gvg is5

[dapper bridge]

Why my weekly orundum still at 1800 while others 2000?

[coarse notch]

idk anything about is2 so i cant say anything about that

[odd sky]

who's 2k

[fathom nest]

Because 1800 is max, no one has 2000

[dapper bridge]

Really?

[coarse notch]

2000 is the amount of orundum you get from first clearing a new anni, its a one time thing

[fathom nest]

Why would I lie about something like this?

[median fable]

eh, idk honestly. Enroute she should be better

[dapper bridge]

Maybe i misunderstood some content lmao

[formal shadow]

Idk how well leizi would be doing in is3

[coarse notch]

mlynar still good enroute and he takes the icicle in ici, prevents your entire team from blowing up in sentinel, and is the easiest way of cycling cannon on yellow king

tho ngl if you're running lemuen burst sentinel i guess leizialt might be better there

[median fable]

nevermind, you're absolutely right

[coarse notch]

lemuen/exu2 took everyones job in is4 anyways

[dapper bridge]

Is 2? Idk i start with typhoon or wisadel mostly, then maybe thorn can be option if u have e2 promoted guard card

[median fable]

thought more about is4 meta and yeah, you'll draft mlynar over her

[turbid ocean]

2100 is the new anni clear reward

because they are now like 12 weeks apart instead of 8 weeks was it before

[coarse notch]

oops

oh, somehow i never noticed that

[odd sky]

scammed

[fleet oak]

does unlocking the event story with disks give rewards like the stories in the archive do?

[median fable]

outside Wisadel the others shouldn't be drafted

[turbid ocean]

I might be lying about the 2100 let me check

[coarse notch]

2000/8 and 2100/12, this math doesnt check out hg

[turbid ocean]

I lied, its 2300

i remember us profiting

[odd sky]

still scammed

[turbid ocean]

but not resource wise

only 1 chip cat, still 150 red certs, 1 T5 mat
but 2300/12 > 1500/8 yes

[red hare]

who are some fun operators to build? i already have most meta 6*'s built and can clear risk 18/trimmed medal comfortably, overflowing in resources and need to use them somehow

[earnest sparrow]

132 pulls enough to get leizei or I should just wait for another unit?

[coarse notch]

build random niche ops for IS and then never use them like me

[coarse notch]

id try for first 6 star at least

[red hare]

yeah like the time i built the mystic casters and then i still only use click

[plush light]

So uh what do I pick?

[odd sky]

caster

[formal shadow]

Yeah I'd top caster yolo

[dapper torrent]

Anyone know how long it takes to M1 a skill without any specialized ops in the training room? I wanna swap logos out but I don't remember if it's been 5 hours yet

[wind blade]

Pick your favorite welfare unit, they have fun kits although bad stats

[plush light]

Got ifrit

[wicked charm]

Which recruitment calculator should i use

[gaunt vapor]

for leiz do you just retreat her after used S2?

[coarse notch]

no

[dapper torrent]

Krooster

[wicked charm]

Okay thanks

[coarse notch]

just leave logos in there you barely save time if you time him down to the minute and if you mess up you lose hours

[red hare]

sure, thanks for the idea, will try it

[odd sky]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CREtCyRRBss3pg5C-Ob7wQ5gZqobtJFk/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=111522252847593928863&rtpof=true&sd=true
copy the excel

[ancient lintel]

How much different is leizi pot 4 from likr leizi pot 1?

[dapper torrent]

This is assuming I use the regular trainer first and then logos? I did the opposite, but I was a bit busy so I didn't check the time

[hollow sparrow]

you can’t do the opposite
logos skill will get canceled

[odd sky]

oh yea logos have to finish the mastery anyway

[dapper torrent]

Wait, really? I thought he only needed 5 hours in there and then could be swapped off

[hollow sparrow]

it gets canceled if either leave the room

[dapper torrent]

Alright, good to know then, thanks
In that case it's too much trouble to micro manage it lol I'll just leave it

[raw tundra]

does leize have animation for fully charged passive? just cant notice it

[odd sky]

more glowy sword

[hidden nacelle]

is leizialt s3 just fraud

[raw tundra]

lmao HG fixed that with Mlynar skin
they did it again?

[odd sky]

you're fraud

fixed? it's intended more like, just like mizuki's talent on his accessory or smt

[fervent merlin]

It's alright

[waxen otter]

I want archetto very bad shes my favorite design, will she ever be rate up on a banner

[formal shadow]

It just works

[odd sky]

wants enclosed spaces

[fathom nest]

In kernel, yeah. Best bet is to wait for a locating banner so you can guarantee her in the gold cert shop

[formal shadow]

Nasti s3 leizi s3 tech 🗣️

[odd sky]

she will, but not on standard, she's kerneled

[austere imp]

Leizi alt main skill is s3 right?

[fathom nest]

s2

[raw tundra]

mlynar skin have nimb above the head when passive fully charged
very clear very comfort
and we have to check the leizi sword glowing again?
thats shit

[austere imp]

ty

[frail thunder]

How worth is this compared to just the monthly card? Also do I get the 6 OPs?

[odd sky]

that's a skin

[fathom nest]

No OP

[formal shadow]

Surely leizi skin will have the same to be p2w :clueless:

[raw tundra]

(how to sale the skins quick guide)

[frail thunder]

Aw man

[fathom nest]

$2 more but you get 2 more pulls in comparison

The 6 OP is just over 1k orundum worth

[rotund girder]

Are the stages in the new event worth farming or should I keep farming normal stages since they still drop the event currency?

[hard sluice]

First time seeing these limited drops in the main story, is that part of the event or something? Should I be trying to get those instead of farming the event currency?

[fathom nest]

Better off farming supply or something else

[formal shadow]

This is how vignette events work

[pale scaffold]

unlock entel mod1 to improve survival?

[fathom nest]

The marked stages give event currency

[odd sky]

vignettes or mini events stages has exactly the same rates as main story

[hard sluice]

Oh so is it worth doing the most marked stages over just the event stages?

[odd sky]

this is like the time to farm supply or first clear main story

[hard sluice]

Oh I see, it's actually potentially worth doing supply stages right now because they can give event currency

That's fantastic I was about to make my first e2 but I need about 300k XP I'll go do the XP stage

[fathom nest]

Please don't

[hard sluice]

Sorry I meant lmd not XP

[odd sky]

god

[fathom nest]

Not as bad but still

[hard sluice]

How would you go about acquiring the lmd?

[fathom nest]

With your base

[chrome tiger]

exp and lmd stages are so comically inefficient dont do them unless there’s really no other option

[fathom nest]

Plus the event shop has 100k or so

[glass folio]

is leizialter worth getting or is she just skippable

[hard sluice]

I just finished getting my 252 setup ready yesterday actually so my base is just now starting to do stuff for me properly

[fathom nest]

Both, just depends on your pulls

[hard sluice]

But yeah unfortunately a bit slow if I want to get silverash e2 today

[fathom nest]

Have you tried IS?

[hard sluice]

Yeah I just finished all the monthly squads in is2 and I'm starting is3

[fathom nest]

Millions of LMD for free, no sanity required

[hard sluice]

I'm just super hungry for lmd right now especially because I was building my base

[fathom nest]

You get more LMD through playing the main part instead of just the monthly squads

Can borrow a strong carry

[hard sluice]

I know but most of my units are significantly worse than whatever the monthly squad gives me to start with

[fathom nest]

.

Steal someone's Wisadel or Exu2

[hard sluice]

I do have a friend with a wis I might end up abusing it but I like this mode a lot and don't want to ruin it for myself LOL

[formal shadow]

Then IS grind with other units :ya:

[hard sluice]

For now I want to see how far I can get with my account and progression without support units

[formal shadow]

then suffer the normal IS grind

[dapper torrent]

I don't think you'll ruin it for yourself. You can do lower difficulty now, and when you get a good roster you can do the higher difficulties

[hard sluice]

Works for me, my current plan is basically to do every monthly squad in all of them and then start from is2 banging out normal and leveling

[odd sky]

how is the prospects of mod3 leizi

[dapper torrent]

Lol I was about to ask the exact same thing. Anyone know the gains on mod3 vs mod1?

[raven junco]

For this event's medals i need to unlock the stories within the event period or can it be done later?

[terse talon]

is it only people who get picked get to play endfield early or do i have to preregister or do somethihng specific

[formal shadow]

This isn't the discord for that

[fathom nest]

The buildup is whatever, really
You'd mostly want that for s1
Attack scale works on all damage during skill
But it's only a ~15% increase overall or something like that

[oak shale]

I saw the pin, but what makes leizis s2 better than s3?

[daring vigil]

bigger range and more reliable dmg

[fathom nest]

Doesn't rely on having the bounce for optimal damage

[oak shale]

Ah makes sense. Less rng to deal with

[dapper torrent]

Alright, ty!

[daring vigil]

its not rng it needs walls to bounce

[odd sky]

buildup?

[fathom nest]

The trait

[oak shale]

Ohhh it's obstacle based? That sounds kinda fun

[fathom nest]

100% on deploy, same as Mlynar

[odd sky]

what about mod3 gain compare to mod1

[lone valley]

Small
Stop at mod2

[fathom nest]

Well you're not really gaining anything with mod1, just the atk from the mod

[odd sky]

2% 🥹

[dapper torrent]

Btw, before leizi released I heard she was safer than mlynar because she could fly, did I misunderstand that? It seems the same as mlynar, since he also doesn't get attacked by melees unless on skill. Does her flight have any significance or is it basically cosmetic?

[lone valley]

Mod1 -> mod2 was like 4% dmg increase, mod3 like 2
Forgor

[daring vigil]

she doesnt get hit by ranged unless its a drone and ignores stage effects

[odd sky]

that's talent upgrade, sadly no one here actually calc leizi dmg themself sigh
i guess i'll do it at some point

[dapper torrent]

Oh, really? Alright, thanks. Seems weird that ranged units can't attack her but I'll take it lol

[lone valley]

No what im saying is the dmg diffrerence

[crisp dawn]

Mlynar has increased Taunt

Leizi flight counts as Take Off and most enemies can’t target her, including ranged enemies and excluding drones (S1 has some weird interactions with this depending on enemy attack speed and whether they’re mid animation and whatnot)

Both only block during skill

[odd sky]

dmg difference is the same as talent upgrade? questionable

[lone valley]

Im feeling shit rn so maybe mistaken the numbers
Just backread my chat with light, i asked him about leizi mod and he gave me the numbers

[dapper torrent]

#help message
Found it @odd sky

[odd sky]

alright 10% increase is decent, i've had worse improvements invested

[chilly apex]

do you get yellow certs from ops you buy from yellow and red certs?

[odd sky]

yes but not worth it

[timid inlet]

is thunder bringer good or my Mlyna still better

[quick jolt]

shes equally as good as mlynar. not better or worse

[slender trail]

i feel so stupid to waste 160 pulls on leizi when hoshi/haruka and ave collab is comming

[odd sky]

[burnt cedar]

sidegrade

[slender trail]

might aswell quit arknights

[odd sky]

blog somewhere else please

[raven osprey]

it didnt give me leizi at pity...isnt it supposed to if i didnt get her once in 150?

[humble nova]

To get these easily, do I wanna farm for the rock cubes or the rock clusters with my sanity? which seems more efficient sanity-wise? (other than 1-7 for rock cubes, i dont trust the other sources for material farming and a few from /material, its outdated)

[timid inlet]

wdym

[wheat flare]

the 6* after 150

[eternal depot]

What event comes next after Leizi alt event?

Okay thanks

[burnt cedar]

1-7

[raven osprey]

Focused Selection: In the current headhunting, if you make 150 headhunting attempts without receiving the current rate-up 6 star operator, the next 6 star operator received is guranteed to be the current 6 star operator. I got an Ulpianus

[odd sky]

we don't know

[severe crypt]

legally

[median fable]

#tech-support

[wheat flare]

did yostar do an oopsie again

[median fable]

well, if he's so sure he did 150 pulls without Leizi2 and the 6* after it was Ulpi it must be an error. If he's so sure

[median fable]

or #1211608727103340616 I guess

[humble nova]

bro no way, can this server be any stricter

[median fable]

for what?

[burnt cedar]

mlynar has taunt, whereas leizi has takeoff

mlynar S3 has less range than leizi s2 but it's range isn't constricted by high ground

etc.

I'm saying both are in fact "good"

[median fable]

really good

[arctic hawk]

its just this channel thats strict

[raven osprey]

used up the 150

[wheat flare]

it could be the pull before 150

[arctic hawk]

It could be the 150th

[raven osprey]

i did 20 extra pulls after

[wheat flare]

then got ulpi?

[raven osprey]

no ulpi was the 150th, i did 20 after thinking it was a mistake

[cold skiff]

which to farm in new event

[arctic hawk]

None its vignette

[wheat flare]

yea you gotta hit another 6* then

[raven osprey]

thats bs

[humble nova]

If I have no pulls currently for the hanabi exiled event, do I still want to use any accumulated pulls to pull it? or save for the orientating banner (logos, ascalon, monst3r) for either the healer or caster if im lacking both roles for meta purposes? Thats if the orientating banner is kept that way (iirc I heard orientating banners of their featured characters can change)
Also yes, this god damn channel is strict af

[autumn rivet]

it only increase 6% ? man

[wheat flare]

worst case you go up to 249 pulls until you get leizi

it IS bs

[median fable]

it's "after 150 pulls", not "the 150th"

[turbid ocean]

mod1 ->2: 6.0%
mod2->3: 3.5%
mod1->3: 9.7%

[raven osprey]

im at 200 already

[median fable]

problem solved

[median fable]

keep pulling atp, do singles

[dapper torrent]

Yeah standard pity is pretty bs tbh, might as well not exist, since it's pretty rare you'd want to go so far for a standard character

[odd sky]

just unlucky

[median fable]

it's kinda great, he's just an outlier who got really really unlucky

[raven osprey]

never had issues in years. last standard i did this bad was i think for blaze

well got leizi...225

[severe crypt]

Ask me when I got yu and lappalter

[timid inlet]

what is "take off"

[dapper torrent]

If you hit standard hard pity, it means you were very unlucky, that's what I'm saying. At that point you're already screwerd lol, I'd rarely want to go over 150 pulls fo a standard, unless it's like tragodia or something

[median fable]

75 pulls for a 6* is also one of the worst I've seen

[cold skiff]

what mats to farm in event

[odd sky]

red cert

[burnt cedar]

the unit flies and becomes immune to ground ranged unit attacks and environmental effects

[raven osprey]

well im in a rough spot for the collab now

[median fable]

well, it depends on your pulling plan. I did over 150 for Mon3tr

[dapper torrent]

I literally got Yu in my 298th pull. Was pretty salty about that, ended up sparking nian

[odd sky]

she's mid anyway

[timid inlet]

hum ok, idk if im gonna up her because i arealdy have Mlynar

[severe crypt]

I got both yu and lappalter at 300

[wheat flare]

you still have 200 pulls. you only need 100 to guaranteed sakiko, unless you want p6 or something

[humble nova]

man just hearing this makes me depressed forthe upcoming banners bruh

[burnt cedar]

I mean if you already have mlynar you can still pull her but ALSO you don't have to unless you wanna do some more specific stuff

[median fable]

missed the 200 pulls he has, surely not even in a rough spot

[severe crypt]

Let me help you: ||offrate hool||

[timid inlet]

i first pull her for the joke and got her so that why im asking ;_;

[turbid ocean]

We can stop yapping now,
its already in the pins, don't drop below 125 and you should be fine for hoshi2+sakiko

[slender temple]

If my math is mathing 9 t4 rocks = 180 t2 rocks right?

[raven osprey]

shouldve prefaced i want every character for the next 5 banners. skipping 1

[burnt cedar]

I mean then yeah both are very good

[raven junco]

If you are done with the event stages first clears including cm just do regular content you were in the process of doing before as long as it gives the sweets

[slender temple]

Oh god now I see why you guys call 1-7 hell

[turbid ocean]

Farm redcerts/skillbooks/chips first if needed
prefarm next 6 months need be

[timid inlet]

imma do some stat calculator and see showcast and see if i up her

[gaunt vapor]

But her module only work ok her first deployment right? Next time I need to wait full 40 sec?

[slender temple]

Trying to prefarm for hoshibanner and realized haruka need tons of rock

[turbid ocean]

she does mlynar equivalent total damage, two is better than one

[coarse notch]

every deployment
and by the time she gets her skill back up her trait is fully charged anyways

[turbid ocean]

keep on different parts of the map
keep in same place and have 80% liberator up time

[timid inlet]

idk im not ganna use both of them in my team anyways

[cold skiff]

oh wait so no material to farm? just event currencies?

[median fable]

are you gonna use only 1 dps in your team, no way 🤯

[turbid ocean]

you don't have to, but it is a good thing if you want the accurate answer

if you already have a well built roster it hardly matters anyways

[timid inlet]

yeah ik

[gaunt vapor]

For leiz do I just M3 her S2? Do I need to get M3 on S1 as well if I wanna use her to farm IS6?

[coarse notch]

you dont farm vignette stages

[timid inlet]

anyways first step its maxing her x)

[turbid ocean]

S3 is used in IS6
not for farming, for try hards

[median fable]

one day people will realise that dmg is dmg, no matter how similar the kits are all you care are numbers

[coarse notch]

you only need the main skill if all you're doing is farming

[gaunt vapor]

That s why I wonder if I should keep redeploying her cuz module

[turbid ocean]

Dont even build shit just for IS unless you dedicate yourself to playing IS

👍

[coarse notch]

no, that doesnt make sense, her redeployment time is longer than her skill cd, why would you do that

[cold skiff]

what does that mean

[gaunt vapor]

Ok so just lv7 then M3 S2?

[timid inlet]

oh ok

[turbid ocean]

If your goal is to simply max level an IS, you aren't even at the right iceberg

[gaunt vapor]

🙏 thx

[median fable]

the event we have? Don't farm its stages
currency is dropped in basically all stages

[coarse notch]

it means you dont farm vignette type event stages like the one we have rn

[dapper torrent]

Vignettes are mini events, leizi alter is not a regular event

[turbid ocean]

the event stage drop rates aren't good

[gentle zealot]

GG, new/old mod comparison

[timid inlet]

imma do it for ori frag

[dapper torrent]

Where is Leizi S1 and S3 used?

[humble nova]

is there a best method to farm the event currency? or is it sanity based doesn't matter?

[coarse notch]

sanity based

[coarse notch]

s1 can be used anywhere, notably in ccb4
s3 is terrain dependent

[cold skiff]

i want to farm this but i haven't reach chapter 12 yet

[tardy crescent]

Guys better farm FM-7 (Durian) or FM-8 salt?

I am not on a crisis on my ops, so idk

[coarse notch]

just buy with green cert tbh

[dapper torrent]

Ty. Guess I'll upgrade S1 too then

[coarse notch]

farm neither, vignette events are bad for farming

[turbid ocean]

Well do you want to lose efficiency...

No ones stopping you

[cold skiff]

the alternative is how many story stages though

[tardy crescent]

So just farm it from regular stage?

[turbid ocean]

Well the alternative is you find a proper event

[severe crypt]

just farm chips/gold certs

[cold skiff]

i am like chapter 10

[slender temple]

Unless you NEED it to upgrade something asap it's still a big no

[turbid ocean]

You wait for a proper event with a proper farm stage

[severe crypt]

legit just treat this week like a dead week

[turbid ocean]

#bot-spam /cnfarm

unironically you can just progress story this week lol

[coarse notch]

you could also just play through the story now, its effectively a dead week

[turbid ocean]

best time to do so

[tardy crescent]

Wait, can i get the sheet? I wanna maximaze my farming method

[severe crypt]

as stated, maximizing farming is only farming during main events

[tardy crescent]

Yeah, its been so long since i do story

[frail thunder]

is lin worth raising nowadays?

[severe crypt]

only if you somehow dont have good casters, shes very mid currently

[median fable]

/material in #bot-spam
use Peter spreadsheet linked

[wind crow]

is GG's new module better than her old one? (I know it's still bad, but is it better?)

[median fable]

but generally, you don't want to farm story stages. You want to farm event stages, gets a big stash of t3 mats that will last you for long enough til next event

[tardy crescent]

Alright thank you

[bleak badger]

Is Vina Victoria any good? I got her in like 16 pulls

[cold skiff]

okay os chapter 15 doable rn? i need to reach 1515-9 to unlock recipe

[bleak badger]

Oh boy

[frail thunder]

what is she mainly used for?

[turbid ocean]

15-9 isn't hard to rush especially with a borrow

[severe crypt]

she can be used as just another aoe caster, with some niche against fast hitting low dmg enemies to recharge s3 faster, cant compare to logos

[bleak badger]

And Narantuya? Aparently I got her too

[floral wedge]

Is it okay if I skip this banner? Or is this banner really op?

[turbid ocean]

Narantuyas solid

[severe crypt]

really good sniper

[turbid ocean]

see pins, don't need to upload an image

[bleak badger]

Nicee

[shadow bay]

should have included the pull stash in that ss smh

[wind crow]

aight just read the pinned. So, "focused damage", will this work better with Yu's S3?

[frail thunder]

man why do they keep giving so many skins to never used ops 💔

[severe crypt]

shes useful if you have jackshit in terms of casters

[barren niche]

Anybody use bluestacks?
somehow the update won't start loading and it just stays on this screen

[frail thunder]

yeah ik but i have every single caster 😭 😭

[turbid ocean]

BlueStacks has a awful reputation

[severe crypt]

then, you build cuz you wanna

[turbid ocean]

Consider LDPlayer or MumuPlayer

[frail thunder]

good point

[chrome prawn]

In is Blueprint squad free refresh is for every node right?

[barren niche]

or the eventual PC version that they mentioned... a year ago?

[turbid ocean]

yes once per node, and you get an extra refresh too

[turbid ocean]

that there is no news of 🫡

[chrome prawn]

Ahh hell yeah

[paper swan]

Is GG's recent module an upgrade compared to her old one?

[barren niche]

yeah...
sigh

out of the 2 you recommended, which would you recommend more?

[turbid ocean]

LDPlayer

-# If you even downloaded Google Play Games there might be a setting that you need to change

[paper swan]

So Y for bosses, X for mobs

[severe crypt]

actually, x for everything cuz gg isnt used against bosses

[turbid ocean]

wouldn't say GG will be DPSing bosses too hard

but sure

[barren niche]

anything else I need to know or do for the setup?

[muted anvil]

Is the new operator worth it for a new player? I am currently clearing anihilation stages at 400/400 and not enoigh exp to even attempt hzrder story stages. So perhaps i better wait?

[turbid ocean]

Thats the only weird caveat,
other is having virtualization enabled in BIOS but it may already be on
To check: Task Manger -> Performance -> CPU -> Read under the graph whether Virtualization is enabled or not

Almost all emulators benefit from virtualization

[balmy panther]

fun fact
today is the perfect day to prefarm ATO chips

[lean jewel]

Something with. Nox here

[barren niche]

?

[lean jewel]

Stuck at loading like for 3 hrs

While on phone is fine

[barren niche]

sheeesh
I'll just switch to mobile for today

[raven junco]

I saw calculations for event shop clear ignoring mod items, should they really be ignored or is it a more complex answer?

[neat acorn]

Wisandel

How far has the story stages reached

[odd sky]

ch15

[crisp dawn]

Always buy mod blocks, but you usually have a large surplus of the other mats

[neat acorn]

Also what are these sweeties drops

[raven junco]

Got it, so after clearing the rest i can ignore the other two mod items and furniture parts, and focus on information fragments? (Im way behind on them cause i started a few months ago)

[fathom nest]

They're for Leizi's event shop

[frail thunder]

is there any website where i can see the list of skins with the l2d animations?

[fathom nest]

https://ak.hypergryph.com/archive/dynamicCompile

[frail thunder]

tysm

[lethal chasm]

Which of these should we unlock

[neat acorn]

Is there anything good to buy as a beginner

[olive mason]

all of them so you can get the medal

[tawny schooner]

Whatbis leizis alrer skill priority to lvl up? S1 or s2?

[fathom nest]

All of it. You're basically getting free materials for just playing normally

[neat acorn]

They will be useful in the future ig

[astral bear]

is leizi2 a m9 candidate

[turbid ocean]

I condensed pins again

but should be fine

[cinder stag]

is it worth it to get typhon mody when i only use her for s2 (and my modx is lvl 2 already)
55 blocks if it matters

[astral bear]

does not matter

[turbid ocean]

they're literally stories

[turbid ocean]

dont bother

you wont use her for very long unless you love to afk

[grave fulcrum]

what's the best module for spalter? especially in AH team

[regal dust]

In krooster, how to share my operators page?
Just copy the page URL link?

[turbid ocean]

yes

[cinder stag]

got it, thanks

[turbid ocean]

you can change the name in the url via settings

[runic willow]

wait leizi is s2?

[fathom nest]

Has been for 6 months

[runic willow]

I alr s3m2d mine

[fathom nest]

m9 her, each skill has a use

[formal shadow]

Just do m6 then :ya:

[floral wedge]

Are these like skins or operators?

[fathom nest]

Neither

They're story pieces

[quick kiln]

yoo so is leizi alter good?

[wheat oyster]

yes but not limited

also her passive looks really cool. not that that matters to help, but its cool

[humble nova]

should I lvl.90 my lin for more dmg 😌

[wheat oyster]

not unless you are absolutely swimming in resources. in which case don't use them on lin

[dapper torrent]

Yeah she's mlynar 2

[stone hinge]

wanna ask, is 409 pulls more than enough for both 2 limited banners and collab banner?

[burnt tree]

elaborate on that?

[dapper torrent]

Wdym 2 limited banners?

[wheat oyster]

409 pulls right now should be, 409 total - you're going to need average luck, and you really don't want to count on average luck

[stone hinge]

hosh alter and sl alter banner?

[lavish monolith]

The key is.. always count for the worst. Collab is 120 guarantee (20 are free). While limited depends on your luck. Getting one should be easy but getting two is a little trickier sometimes

So, it should be enough if you have normal luck

[cyan cove]

Who’s better on this team, Ptilopsis or should I level Reed TFS?

[dapper torrent]

Silverash alter? He's like 5 months away from us still, you have al ot of time, that's plenty enough pulls

Odds are if you go hard pity on both hoshi and the collab, you'll still be able to get SA alter if you have that many pulls rigght now

[idle finch]

Holy stacked

[spiral sail]

What's the in-game download size?

[stone hinge]

cool, thx

[mental ledge]

It is worth to e2 myrtle?

[lavish monolith]

Only if you want to s1m3 her right away

[dapper torrent]

After you e2 your main dps, yeah

[quick jolt]

not really

[mental ledge]

Ok, thanks

[lavish monolith]

Do agents instead, if you have one

[quick jolt]

she does her job fine at sl7 and theres no reason to e2 her other than masteries. as soon as you get like any agent you can just build them instead and pair them with her

[dapper torrent]

In-game only it's like 800mb I believe. The store one is about 1.7gb

[mental ledge]

Which one would recomand upgrading first?

[hollow sparrow]

ulpi

[mental ledge]

Ok

[lavish monolith]

for is5 draft. which one do you guys prefer canta or surfer? even a slightly better performance is appreciated

[turbid ocean]

surfer

is almost always prefered, slightly

fuck i mistyped

[lavish monolith]

[turbid ocean]

surfer is prefered because of talent

[lavish monolith]

remind me again of her talent. dp refund?

[turbid ocean]

and technically less built in ASPD = benefits slightly more

yes

[lavish monolith]

[turbid ocean]

canta produces more by default from skill itself because ASPD
but for the same reason shes less effective to buff

also, technically surfer s2 is usable

in very niche situations on IS5 when you have a certain debuff

[odd sky]

like freeze on deploy ?

wtf so niche

[lavish monolith]

would you e2 surfer later on or just e1 until the ending? also, her mod matters?

[turbid ocean]

yes and niche

IS5 gives you alot of ASPD yet you will still find yourself struggling on things like ED5

forced to redeploy ops on map change and spend DP to bounce the balls

even agent modx's taunt down is useful

[lavish monolith]

sense make

[turbid ocean]

Amiyas range is massive and she will instead target anything else and not surfer

[runic willow]

When you use cantabile do you prefer s1 or s2? Or both equally

[turbid ocean]

without some HP relics, agents get merc'd

S1 is the better skill technically but S2 is easier to use

S2 for general content lmao, enemies can die too fast and waste skill duration

[silver smelt]

how worth are Leizi2 mod levels past 1?

[turbid ocean]

mid

[fading scaffold]

is leizi worth m6 (s1) or even m9?

[quick jolt]

you probably wont use s3 in gen content

[turbid ocean]

actually mod2 angle

justifiable

i compared it to modless doesn't seem bad

[neat acorn]

Is it me or does wisandel not hit air

[turbid ocean]

Flingers can't hit air

her S3 is special

[silver smelt]

she doesnt unless s3

[quick jolt]

she doesnt, thats flinger base trait. but she can hit air with her talent and target air with s3

[candid moon]

which skills to mastery on leizi?

[quick jolt]

pin

[silver smelt]

what about Mod3?

[turbid ocean]

hard to justify

I updated pin for mod levels

[oblique haven]

im really confused aobut this IS stage

its the one with the yellow raincoat people

with magnifying glasses above their heads,
Why am i sometimes losing life when they enter the blue box, and sometimes not

[kindred root]

Whats best lin mod

[hollow sparrow]

x

[turbid ocean]

IS4 or IS5?

Basically its from chapter 12, main story mechanic

[silver smelt]

how is is5 leizi start

[oblique haven]

is 4 i think

[turbid ocean]

Special stage from encounter?

[kindred root]

Do mod missions care if theyre done on adverse or standard diff

[oblique haven]

dont recall, the level has 3 blue boxes on the left, with a red box in a lane below. Three red boxes on the right where the civs enter from, and two big destroyable boxes in the way of the three blue boxes

i cant go back and get a ss, going to have to describe it

[turbid ocean]

Well you have to either block or keep in your operator range for certain time to reveal "unknown" people
They can be enemies or allies

[ancient lotus]

Can beat every f1 EM on E1

[oblique haven]

oh ic

that is going to save me alotta tilt in the future, ty

[turbid ocean]

afterthey are revealed to be good guy and enter the box, your DP limit gets increased

if they're bad guy, you kill them obviously

[silver smelt]

i assume like Wis'adel/Exu2 start still stronger?

[turbid ocean]

uh i don't know what stage that is

[ancient lotus]

Wisadel definitely, exu2 got hand + book

[silver smelt]

alright ty

[turbid ocean]

just confirm with me which IS (IS4 is Sami - Typhon) (IS5 is Sarkaz - Nymph)

Oh

Its "Unwell", yes, IS4

Floor 2 map - ideally you use some ranged operator at the top rightish to start revealing them early

then set up near the checkpoint, just careful not to break the boxes else you have to then manage two lanes

[formal shadow]

Yeah cause there's the invis guys

Really annoying when you break the boxes

[oblique haven]

thanks fellas

[eternal helm]

new character worth the pull or save for anniversary?

[vagrant gulch]

I got Leizalt and got spooked by Ulpipi first, which of the 2 is a prio for building? (I dont have uncle horse)

[ivory roost]

is it worth to get dorothy from cert shop? I have like all the meta cert ops(mlynar, ines, logos, etc) just debating if I get her or I wait until they put newer non limiteds

[oblique haven]

if you dont have mlynar shes really good, otherwise it depends on what you want

[eternal helm]

she skippable?

[frail thunder]

id save incase you dont get haruka/hoshi2

[ivory roost]

imo leizi not really that much if a must pull, I would say wait until limited since you can get her on it too prolly

[severe crypt]

How many pulls is stock

[eternal helm]

like around 100k orundum

i have mynlar

[severe crypt]

Then what the pins say apply to you

[ivory roost]

the gold certs? I dont like haruka nor hoshi design ngl, I do need funds for monster hunter but thats late future

[frail thunder]

well i personally would reccomend against dorothy but if you really want

[vagrant gulch]

I got Leizi then got Ulpianus as well, which of the 2 is a prio for investing and whats their build pth incase I finish investing the first op?

[frail thunder]

also damn yeah their deisng is eh

[ancient lotus]

Depending on your roster rn

[ivory roost]

okie thanks for your thoughts, i really hope we get new alters in mh lol

[wet summit]

Is tragodia, ulipanus, Mountain and saria a good first 4 six star operators?

If yes, should I pull for Leiza, or am I better off saving for others? Thanks

[frail thunder]

yes and depends on how many pulls you got rn

[wet summit]

5 pulls lol. Just starting chapter 3

[ivory roost]

yes it is good, no do not pull leiz2, save for future cracked banners

[frail thunder]

shes good but the next banner is even better

[wet summit]

Awesome. Any banner specifically I should focus on?

[vagrant gulch]

Here’s my current roster btw

Im broke on mats its why Im thinking between Leizi or Ulpianus which should I build first

[silver smelt]

what stage do you farm during event ? 1-7?

[ivory roost]

imo focus on limited, those being anniversary and collabs, collabs generally tend to have good units but anniversaries drop big units( walter and apple alter) silverdaddy can make units 0 dp with ines too lol

[severe crypt]

and/or red certs, chips, incomplete story stages

[stray flame]

Yeah i feel like patrick putting his head in a water gallon

[ancient lotus]

Would do leizi first S2M3 and then you can build ulpi

[silver smelt]

Do CM/Hell story stages give event currency

[slender temple]

Prefarm 200+ rocks for haruka rn

[vagrant gulch]

Got it thx

[faint dust]

who are the best 4*s to level? besides myrtle

[oblique haven]

if you have mlynar and dont desperately want her, she is going to standard so you can get her there later

[eternal helm]

ok

[ivory roost]

ethan and gummy are good for is gameplay

[severe crypt]

looking at it, CM and H stages dont but adverse stages do

we cant keep calling everything insane man

[faint dust]

I also still havent used the 5* operator training invitation letter, who would be the best to max from what I have?

[proven kelp]

Lmao Gummy wish she's remotely close to Ethan lol

The only reason gummy is being used is because she's 0 hope, she literally doesn't do jack otherwise unlike Ethan who's actually useful

[formal shadow]

grace

[ancient lotus]

nothing worth investing here tbh, gracebearer is a hard maybe unless you're in actual poverty

maybe save them for ave mujica members

[proven kelp]

Myrtle is not even "best" 4* to level up

Humus, Cuora, Pinecone, Sussuro are very strong for 4*
Ethan has niche that is useful for high end content but newbies probably won't use him as much

[proven kelp]

Leizi Alt is very worth
Pull for her unless you're really broke on pulls

[opaque loom]

Should i buy the bison skin? I'll never use him but im not sure if i dont buy it will i miss any future rewards

[proven kelp]

You won't

[opaque loom]

So no bison skin. Thanks!

[shadow bay]

isnt bison skin in shop?

[maiden plover]

Should i just skip leizi alt? I only got 2 qiubai dupes and an ascalon dupe from 90 pulls

[formal shadow]

[proven kelp]

Depends on how much pulls you have left

[shadow bay]

poor

[proven kelp]

Then no
Not like you have a choice

[formal shadow]

What skipping? You're broke

[oblique haven]

ethan is a whole ass beast

[dapper torrent]

There's no reason not to buy it, you'll very easily earn enough currency to buy out the entire shop

[shadow bay]

ahh yeh

would u suggest typhon new mod if one build her 1st mod3???

[proven kelp]

No, i won't waste more resources into it

[ivory roost]

counter claim, what you gonna do with your other selectors in is, select the reserve ops? op wanted units that are good 4 stars, I answered units that could be used well in is, but also in story mode and events, besides, 4 stars have a bit more complexity from 3 stars, so rather than picking a worthless defender like spot, you can have an actual decent defender within the 4 star rarity in the form of gummy, ethan on the other hand, can offer utility through stalling; in the current 4 stars roster of course other than myrtle, majority of the units are meh when considering the power differences in the rarities within the game, you wouldn’t want gummy if you can simply deploy shu, you wouldnt want ethan if you can deploy ascalon, you wouldnt want pinecone if you could deploy chen alter, but thats besides the point, i do want to ask then, what 4 stars do you take in is? or do you simply ignore is?

[shadow bay]

understood thanks

[formal shadow]

Hard for me to justify building mody even when I don't have modx

[shadow bay]

them someone build a wall of text

[shadow bay]

need a reason to minmax her to see her beach skin in action

[woeful zodiac]

ye its better for s2 but not rly worth

[formal shadow]

Saying spot is a worthless defender is wild

[silver smelt]

Wtf spot catching strays

[shadow bay]

my gummy just standing menacingly when i need heals

[woeful zodiac]

spot has more spotlight than gummy so far, gummy is only at is5 cause she is free there 🥀

[ivory roost]

its my hot take and my hot take i stand by, is5 having 4 stars as 0 to take is goated

[silver smelt]

yeah but we talk about IS and not just IS5 no

[magic sundial]

they should all have that tbh

[formal shadow]

Sure 0 hope cost 4* is nice but there's few 4*'s I'd bother building and ethan and purestream are the only ones I bothered getting e2 for IS specifically

[magic sundial]

honestly even 5* should cost only 1 hope

[shadow bay]

also i rarely draft myrtle outside of barometric

[ivory roost]

then spot is fine for what hes worth, i hope is6 is an improvement on is5 mechanics

[formal shadow]

I drafter agents instead these days :ya: (shame the 4* agent is ass)

[woeful zodiac]

eitherway, gummy isnt all the rage. If you play is5 with spot its not all that different tbh 🤷

[shadow bay]

ig theres also the mouthpiece coz the last time i run the stage i have hard time with agents, but ig i need more testing in this scenario

[formal shadow]

Can see that. The DoT the bears do is more than I expect every time I do it

[shadow bay]

listen listen....

indigo??? 🥹

[formal shadow]

I did actually e1 indigo to try as is5 starter

[shadow bay]

not e2 🚮

[formal shadow]

I e2'd click instead

[shadow bay]

i still haven't bother giving click her 3 blocks of module

[ivory roost]

i get horror moments from his skin, dont like how he looks lol. nor do i like clicking his skill every time i need him to lock in

[woeful zodiac]

indigo technologies will not happen 🥀

[proven kelp]

My issue is you calling Gummy "Insane" while adding Ethan on the same sentence like they're remotely on the same level

And yes, just pick the free unit
The guy is a newbie, why would he waste resources on Gummy specifically for IS? When he could have used it on other more useful units to raise or atleast pre farm. And oh please calling spot useless is not true lmao, he's very good on all IS because he's free, Gummy is only useful in Is5 because she's free

You don't need to own the upgrade to not use those units, simply because they're not worth the resources. And for the record, Ethan is still used even with Ascalon
Ethan has better stalling capabilities than Ascalon

Literally in any IS that isn't IS5 you don't even draft 4* because they eat hope. You can easily do IS by simply only drafting 6*. Unless you're doing high D specific End stuff that i doubt he or you will, 4 stars aren't getting drafted

[woeful zodiac]

its just preference atp, not gummy being good

[turbid ocean]

We can rest the argument now

If you want to keep debating take it to #strategy

[woeful zodiac]

wallbuilding battle 🧱

[turbid ocean]

I’m talking to both of you @ivory roost @proven kelp

[proven kelp]

I'm not even typing anymore

[turbid ocean]

I just want to be clear

[formal shadow]

[shadow bay]

[turbid ocean]

👍

[rocky vortex]

Leizi2 is fairly strong as expected liberator guard, but you probably don't want to drop pull balance below 125 to have a good shot at both Hoshi2 and Sakiko
So depends on my balance i should just skip this banner sirs?

[ivory roost]

I would like to continue my conversation with you @proven kelp if you are ok with debating, in the ither chat

[shadow bay]

u can skip if ur that uncomfortable yeh

[formal shadow]

That is indeed what the pins say

[proven kelp]

Sure

[dapper torrent]

You have 48 pulls, I'd just save for hoshi

[blissful berry]

if i have roughly 190-200 pulls should I aim to get both hoshi alter and haruka or do I stop when I get either one

[proven kelp]

Stop when you get Hoshi Alt

[rocky vortex]

Is Hoshi super OP ?
I would need a medic so should I get Haruka first Sakiko is a collab so she's a must right?

[polar swan]

Skip or pull

[dapper torrent]

A medic isn't a super high priority, more of a luxury comfort thing. Silence and ptilopsis will get you by just fine until you get a good 6* one

[shadow bay]

ur rich i would grab a copy

another dps to ur collection aint hurt anyway

also deym gladiaa raised but i dont see ulpines... ig u just love pullers

nvm im blind

[ornate sable]

Guys. Is sand reckoner good?

[opaque loom]

It still costs 350, which is like 5 manganese or loxic kohl, or some cash

[bright lake]

how is Leizi current mod? purely for damage

[proven kelp]

No

[proven kelp]

It's not the biggest upgrade
Stay at level 1

[rocky vortex]

I see ty

[bright lake]

see thats what i thought. but then apparently it increases her damage by 33%

[dapper torrent]

Idk, I see no world where I would pick 5 manganese, kohl or 10k lmd over a skin, but I guess you're right, if you're never going to use it, there's no reason to. Just seems like a waste to me

[lofty axle]

Leizi mastery priority and module level?

[shadow bay]

deym must be hard to be rly in short of materials

but ig if u badly need those mats u can skip bison skin

[ornate sable]

Can anyone explain this Paddy mechanic on the event? What the heck am I suppose to do with that sniper filth

[opaque loom]

Not THAT short, but more lmd is always good

[proven kelp]

The calc i seen doesn't improve it as much

[dapper torrent]

Deploy a defender last so they get attacked

[ornate sable]

Anyone has a preview? I'm running out of practice tickets

[shadow bay]

that 10k lmd wont hurt tbh

but yeh about the materials u can argue with that and go ur merry way...

[prisma sphinx]

Is the new banner worth pulling?

[proven kelp]

Yes

[kindred root]

Depends

[prisma sphinx]

thanks

[prisma sphinx]

On?

[kindred root]

Have mlynar/strong dps and low pulls and want the upcoming banners more, id say skip

[earnest saddle]

Is this a bug, both buttons point to same location and we dont get bonus curreny...?

[shadow bay]

iirc we dont have bonus currency in vignette

[proven kelp]

The entire melee tiles are made up of Farm Fields

When the slug enemies dies, they contaminate the Field and makes your units take Arts dmg, the more contaminated it is, the more dmg you take

The ranged enemy does is applying the current level of contamination that he's standing on to the target. But if he's standing on clean field then he will shoot out clean water

[earnest saddle]

ohh

[thin torrent]

Who do i swap for leizi?

[prisma sphinx]

I just started a few days ago I haven't pulled on anyone except the discounted with a guaranteed 6 star

[ornate sable]

So you spam that water purifier to the spawn?

That snipe hits like a brick

[kindred root]

You could reroll for leizi if youd like, but yes pulling would be a good idea here

[proven kelp]

Yes

But assuming we're thinking of the same stage, they should already have a built it purifier on the tile that the sniper is at, so just avoid killing to much enemy on his tile

[faint dust]

what module to get first? I kinda forgot abt them until now

[ornate sable]

FM-3 I'm stuck there

[blissful berry]

depends on what ur struggling with if you need dps then grab her

liberator guards are generally quite good and she will help in some niche situations

[prisma sphinx]

I just want to expand my roster a dps sounds nice and most of my struggles are lack of thinking

[oblique haven]

exusai leizi or ulpi imo, depends on what you need the most. all three units are staples rn

[blissful berry]

oh I mean shes quite flexible on how you place her since she normally doesn't get targeted and has 0 block both a good thing and bad

[fossil fern]

does pins for leizi still apply if u haven't got mylnar?

[prisma sphinx]

Is anyone next worth pulling

[pseudo flume]

Do you have enough Pulls for Hoshi2 though?

[oblique haven]

a good liberator is really strong to have, just make sure you have enough pulls for hoshi. you can get leizi later when she eventually comes around for yellow certs

shes a standard unit

[brisk shell]

Im in the same boat. No Mlynar but do have a ton of guards

[shadow bay]

if u dont have mlynar u would appreciate leizi

if u have mlynar ig u kinda have 2 mlynars

pulling leizi mostly matter on ur pull stash and pull plans

[blissful berry]

yeah next few banners in a row are really good, next ones a limited and then a collab (semi real limited)

[hollow sparrow]

basically every upcoming op minus nasti and mantra

[fossil fern]

i have like 120 but i have quite a few past events, so i can farm more, i was thinking of going for just first 6* on her banner?

[spare jetty]

have u opened the pins yet

[median fable]

guess

[oblique haven]

thats what im doing too

[shadow bay]

weeb not blue named anymore

[blissful berry]

imo tho I would try to go for limited first since hoshi alter and haruka are really good themselves

[hollow sparrow]

got removed for inactivity

[pseudo flume]

Probably skip if you really want the Collab op and Hoshi2

[loud nimbus]

So should I get Lez here, or should I just save for Hoshi Alter?

[burnt tree]

also v*na rerun too but yeah

[hollow sparrow]

reruns aren’t real😌

[pseudo flume]

Who?

[median fable]

depends, read pins

[brisk shell]

Hoshi looks less uniquely impressive than Leizi

[spare jetty]

kinda 🥀

[stray flame]

how did raditz get his blue back

[pseudo flume]

But is harder to get and is paired with a really good healer

[spare jetty]

but where is rechord again

[prisma sphinx]

Thanks I saw it, I guess I'll save for now

[stray flame]

he's somewhere

[blissful berry]

I mean shes very unique too, 2 hp bars spinning beyblade and tanking hits that would kill your teammates

[oblique haven]

really dont care for hoshi lowk, just want haruka

[brisk shell]

Yeah but neigh-immortality isnt a new feature

[pseudo flume]

Wait 2 years for a guarantee

[brisk shell]

The floating tile stomp is really calling to me

[oblique haven]

a move straight outta keijo!!!!!

[brisk shell]

Like a mario crusher block

[burnt tree]

what if it's neigh-immortality by being untargetable

[blissful berry]

more interested in the healing beyblade

managed to get leizi in 30 which is nice though

[oblique haven]

how many pulls on average would it be to get hoshi, haruka, sakiko, and her 5*'s
should i be fine with 300?

[oak shale]

This is an interesting one. Any five stars possible with it?

[blissful berry]

30 pulls if you believe in yourself

[oblique haven]

robot is a particularly good tag to roll on becuase its the only way to get them, id use that instead of any of the others

[burnt tree]

make that 15 pulls

[oak shale]

Oh ok I'll try that

[oblique haven]

remember robots are 2*

[ashen stone]

you need to use robot with 3:50 on the timer

[signal swan]

When Leizi s2 gives attack based on lightning strikes, is that strikes that hit an enemy, or all her lightning strikes anywhere?

[ashen stone]

or whatever allows 1 stars iirc

[burnt tree]

should be the latter

[signal swan]

Thanks.

[oblique haven]

these are the robots

[oak shale]

Oh I got this right after lmao

[oblique haven]

wowe, heres the list, lmk which one you want and ill send over the tags

[ivory roost]

consult krooster for they have the power to see what is possible in recruitment

[burnt tree]

also fun fact this mean that a leizi with max s2 range immediately get full bonus, as it's exactly 25 tiles

[oblique haven]

@oak shale

[silver smelt]

what map even has that big space

[blissful berry]

randomly pop top op and gamble

[burnt tree]

the football one

[oblique haven]

only good vanguard there is bp so id probably skip that tag

[oak shale]

Based

I think it's a tie for me between mountain and saga

[woeful zodiac]

wack tags, top op dps ranged for ceobe suzu if u dont have or just solo yeet it

[oblique haven]

personally think mountain is a little more useful in more situations

never borrowed a saga before, but i borrow mountain for maps that start quickly and have two lanes i need to def

[burnt tree]

bagpipe is still useful trust huff copium

[oak shale]

Yeah his is just mega yolo

[oblique haven]

i dont have ines T-T, im still flagging it

could build surfer tho i guess

[woeful zodiac]

start surfing it... unless u also dont have

[oblique haven]

really coul i guess huh, is she that good?

[wary vector]

Hot take saga is ass
*Assuming you own either flametail/suzu mom

[brisk shell]

I spent 45 yellow on cantible and just realized yesterday her S2 works with Exu2 passive and its absolutely made it worth it

[woeful zodiac]

surfer canta is very good

[oblique haven]

canta?

[broken dove]

what order should I e2? ulpi tragodia silver ash and penance?

[wary vector]

Cantabile

[woeful zodiac]

cantabile, the other 5 star agent

[oak shale]

I got bagpipe. Sad days

[blissful berry]

isnt she like a trillion years old atp, is flametail any good i do have her heard shes giga rng tho

[oblique haven]

ulpi, trag, sa, trag s2m3 mod3 l82 imo idk about pennance, dont use her

[valid violet]

is nasti's platform atk buff additive or multiplicative?

[median fable]

good in base

[prisma sphinx]

Should I dump all my stamina on event stages even tho I'm still new or just go through the story

[blissful berry]

what does she do

[burnt tree]

none of the pioneer vanguard are good i fear

[oak shale]

Saga was just for the pokedex. Looks cool though

[median fable]

#r-i-i-c combo base file, special section

[woeful zodiac]

dont bother building penance, also you should e1 ur squad before going for more e2s.

[wary vector]

I wouldnt call "80% dodge" as "ass rng to play with"

[burnt tree]

just go 1 flag + 1 agent (or bagpipe) and that solve your dp problem on every stage

[oblique haven]

i have surfer, not cantabelle

[blissful berry]

clear as much as u can, events are usually always better value this event doesn't have much to buy however

[wary vector]

At least compared to vulpis, flametail has the -4 dp mod option

[blissful berry]

I see I was lowkey just using texas for the time being since I heard she has rng involved

[woeful zodiac]

actually that is full squad e1 nvm, then start building base workers.
go to #bot-spam and check /baseskills e1 the list

[blissful berry]

didnt want my auto deploy to get cooked by the rng

[burnt tree]

there are no rng involve in any of the unit i mentioned

[median fable]

rng seed is saved

[hollow sparrow]

flametail just doesn’t do that much damage
i don’t think rng is her main issue

[oblique haven]

what skills would you run on cantabile and surfer?

[blissful berry]

was talking about flametail since thats all I have for 6 star vanguards

[wary vector]

Gradually gains 8 DP over the skill duration. Attack Interval reduces, ATK +90%, Block +1 and gain 80% Physical and Arts Dodge
8s duration, 16 SP

[burnt tree]

no you don't need any of the 6* pioneer vanguard

[median fable]

rng skill can't make you fail an auto since they save the tesult of the skill (like dodged or not dodged)

[blissful berry]

oh

[burnt tree]

just cope with surfer/cantabile and myrtle 😭

[median fable]

there are maybe only a couple of ops who don't like Widadel afterinage targeting

[wary vector]

Canta +myrtle the goat

[oblique haven]

do you even need myrtle in this? I take it you just run the deployment passives right?

[hollow sparrow]

rng can make your autos susceptible to failing because frame drops can shift rng

[broken dove]

gotcha tyty

[median fable]

yeah, rng drop is basically the reason an auto will fail most of the time
or stats change

[blissful berry]

was that always like that? some stuff I dont recall since I played back when before we could skip auto deploying the annihis and the first W banner dropped

[burnt tree]

sometimes the way stage function scuff an agent's dp gen and that's when you want flag as insurance

[blissful berry]

shit was so cooked back in the stone ages

[burnt tree]

also flag is just stable, idk

[median fable]

always has been like that, even W rng bomb placement is fixed

[stray flame]

Prepare backup plans

[oblique haven]

youd start with surfer with the 12 second deployment passive right? and then drop cantabile with her invis skill?

[stray flame]

back in my day backup plans helps a lot in auto

[median fable]

kroos crit talent is fixed, dodge is fixed and yada yada yada

[blissful berry]

ic I usually never really use rng units since I thought they'd mess up the auto deploy thats very good to know

[burnt tree]

idk about using 2 agent instead of agent + flag tbh, but someone more experienced on this can help out

[median fable]

there is basically no reason to care as long no framedrops is involved

[median fable]

why do I want to use 2 vanguards?

[oblique haven]

ive just been using ely/myrt and bp

[slender ridge]

Hello, I would like to ask, which skill to M3 first for Leizi alt?

[blissful berry]

life without ines is rough

[burnt tree]

so you can afk a stage 5 seeconds earlier?

[oblique haven]

s2 or s1, doesnt matter you want both m3

[median fable]

I played for a long while only with Canta
it's fine

[oblique haven]

kinda regretting my option to take logos instead of ines from the 6* selector last time

[wary vector]

Huh?

[median fable]

the whole point of using an agent is to use less vanguards

[woeful zodiac]

myrtle is such a fucking brick I hate that thing 😠

[slender ridge]

Got it, thanks!

[oblique haven]

you might eventually want her m9, becuase all of her skills are strong, s3 is just strong is a rare niche