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mountain and thorns are the same flavor of mid
why do you call tragodia that
no one who actually plays the game consciously would say that Mountain is good or as good as SA
Do I just stay with the first 6* I get
mountain is holding the lines better 🤔
mountain has zero range
hes a brawler
yeah thats why hes worse
Only valid defense for Mountain is him being alright compared to other E1s
He is not in fact SilverAsh tier
hes the reason why brawlers are even relelant anyways?
- just wait a couple of days to pull for Leizi2
- even if you had another 6* you won't have the resources to properly use them anyway
just to make sure, ptilopsis right?
edit; Ty
they are in fact not relevant
logos and ulpianus is crazy
brawlers being relevant does not make him better or on par with SA
They are not relevant and Chongyue is right there
I got the
mountain
idk if I should put you in my black list or not Milen 🥹
omg ikr, I was very much blessed, I ended up pulling for ulpianus cause husbands and managed to snag him pretty early so I’m quite set *^
Not the end of the world, he’ll carry earlygame once you E1 him
I didn't do nothin wrong 🤔
I mean it doesnt matter who they get on the banner
they'll have SA either way, the rest are just different flavors of mid, the only dud is exy
what if it's saria
Saria is unironically the second best on there
Mitm or blacknight lizard?
saria is decent ig
it's more that sometimes you says the same outrageous takes that I can find on reddit
like what
I said what I said
behind silverash?
Who is the best
Mountain being good
Mountains on par with SA
Bagpipe being relevant
I could go on if I search your channel history 🥹
Just asking
Mitm or blacknight ?
sash but the ops you get from future banners (eg. Leizi) are leagues above the beginners anyway
SA > saria
I’ll just stay with mountian then
both kinda niche but Mitm sees more usage
the answer should be none
silverash, but it doesnt matter anyways, you'll get him on day5 selector
Is this nicheknights or just in general
but they don't really matter since you'll use selector for SA and many 3* defenders will get the job done early until you get a gacha replacement
why is he so valued it is the burst damage?
Silverash by a large margin
if none isnt an option, mitm imo
i found more overall use in mitm generally than blacknight, although the latter still works
I’m getting mixed answers
Idk what to choose. I need y'alls suggestions please 🙏
it is silverash
Silver Ash is the answer
Hank
future ops>>>sash>saria>…
kinda everyone answered Silverash. But you'll get another selector for him on day 5
can we PLEASE find a diffrent accronym for silverash 😭
All about trying something new. You get tired of using the same things over and over.
Mitm has some nice stalling capability if you want
Yeah I heard
SS?
dw, we all wen through that
Just call it silver bro
Just call silverash his hard to rememebr name
the ntr era 🚬
I had that name in the back of my mind but thought it'd be best to not say it
sa is a bit ambiguous and silverash is too long 
do you have some potentials on any of those
Is it that hard to say silver
silver what
ngl, I'd go for Texas
Sh
theres gonna be a second version soo
Hank do not abbreviate silverash
for more gold certs in the future
Ifrit even worth in big 25? Or gamble i have weedy alr
Ifrit still used sometimes for res debuffing like in ccb3
Aight sounds good
niche, but better than almost all the melee options lol
Its -40 res right
talent is -40%
s3 is flat -20 res
Do I just focus story now
Percent first?
flat reduction first
Sad
I corrected immediately since I noticed I was misleading
the way i remember which is first is i try to think which would be worse 
Damn i thought hg is nice
Is the summer thing still here or is this just outdated
even without it she's like one of the best at that job
They’re all still there in the terminal , this is up to date
Isnt she the best? Others are harder to use in most cases no
purely from a stat perspective probably
Hey so I decided to reroll again
Do I still choose silence if I have a 5* medic already
which 5 star
Whisperin
Just get silence
you shouldnt build whisperain
whisp isn't good, so
Whisperain < lumen and evem lumen isnt worth your time so 
silence is very strong in comparison
Intresting
Why tho
Both mods are kinda useless honestly
no reason
Surely mod y makes her worth using 🙏
mod x not good?
Neither the mod nor Ifrit herself is good enough to justify spending mod blocks on it imo
If you just want a mod to throw on her then modX lv1 is fine
Delta mod is entirely useless
2nd e2? I discovered the guide for new player vouchers way too late. I still have the lvl 80 voucher because i leveled blue poison on my own, so my next 5* e2 can get max level instantly
(my biggest regret so far is no silverash and i dont like tequila)
Don't over level anyone like Blue Poison again that put a massive dent in your wallet rip
Work towards E2 Lin
Don't use Projekt Red or Lucilla both are terrible
Tequila requires some thinking but hes unironically one of your best damage dealers right now
well i completed all pinboard missions in time to get Texas, so i can slow down. Blue Poison and Lin carried me through story and annihilation missions as well
Is this going to be a dead week?
Suspecting voucher use
Don't use Texas either
Its most likely Leizi2 event soon with the skins announced
Which is vignette so the event doesn't have good farming stages
manually lv80ing blue poison is diabolical
Yes you can basically farm like dead week
Ideally chips, redcerts, skill books, or progress story
Its a banner with no rerun, right?
Yes
Gotcha, I’m tempted to go for it…is she a big improvement compared to other meta guards/nukers?
shes a sidegrade of mlynar, one of the best units ingame
what is the best skill of Quercus?
ig i messed up the account badly
meh nothing not recovable
Bad decisions but no account is completely ruined regardless of what you do
Especially early on
Is silverash really that big comprared to the other choices?
I need some advice from muelsyse enjoyers. Which module is better?
Tbh he’s carrying me right now
oh get his skill 2 makes him invincible in early game
Well
ModX2
I will learn how to do that sooner or later
elite 1 and elite 2 give skills
6 stars gain skill 2 at 1 and skill 3 at 2
silverash is my most picked units from friends' support
why not wisadel
i dont have a friend with wisadel
wisadel makes game not fun
I dont think you need friend
if you want masteries levels yeah
no like for support
Damn, was hoping you'd say y lol. Back to farming crystalline components i guess
and isnt wisadel a sniper? i have blue poison and exusiai already as snipers in my squad, so i dont pick snipers
she ins't just a sniper she nukes half the map
and is also a flicker that can hit aerial enemies
She makes others in the sniper class look like they're using straws and paper spitballs dawg
need help with base skills. does vermeil combo work in originium factory or is it only used for exp factories? im currently using a combo of vermeil, ceobe, and noir corne but need someone to replace noir corne due to his morale leaving earliest, any suggestions?
It's not exclusive to metal or exp so should work for orundum
strongest 6star sniper in the game vs weakest 6star sniper in the game
pins in #r-i-i-c has details about both gold and exp
is she really the weakest cuz she is really good atleast for early
depends on who you're using as partners and what's written there
Isn’t weakest 6 star sniper like schwarz or farthooth
Exu when she meets a foe with 3 digit defense:
I'd take either of them over Exu any day lol
Man the exu hate goes hard 💔 💔
You will only get like 85% from that team (for oru).
Noir is equal to basic 30%
So, you could replace it with someone like cuora, lava, midnight, or chestnut.
Not really the best but you do what you have to do.
actually, if you don't know how vermeil combo works I don't think you should do oru farming since high chance newbie
Thats what my concern too
It exists for a reason
Alter is her only redeeming feature
Like the way he still uses noir 
actually Idk if Exu is truly the worst
like, in RA she's able to cut trees. It must mean sth for sure
RA doesn't exist
true...
normal exu is overhated. just invest in her more 🥱
Upgraded from spitballs to a bb gun
im endgame and got enough resources. i just dont care enough how base skills work. not to mention, i know vermeil combo well enough for exp but im stil learning originium farming
you might want to use the universal team then.
probably. was trying to make it work but seems lik not worth

doro & highmore team gives slightly better %.
even the 3 basic oru worker still better than those verm comp.
just saying 
it seems so. ngl it seems lik a waste to not use the combo anymore but i guess this is what originium farming is
Can someone interpret this for the poor Dragonball fan?
Only the chip catalysts, information fragments and module data block (30 days cooldown?) remains forever in the purchase certificate store?
And the operators
Once I buy them, does it pop new operators? I guess not
The second condition for the mission
Gotcha, thanks
clear that level perfectly using a max amount of 7 ops. use your own warfarin and the rest of the ops are guards
Use your own Warf and 6 guards
Is Qiubai good
She's okay
excluding bind in IS, sakiko just outclasses qiubai in every single way right
what can i change to this team?
now that you mention it. they have close to nothing in common so i dont see why even compare them
as a dps, using qiubai s3
yeah, vigil/whisp won't do much
who can i replace them with ?
i feel like their s3's are atleast somewhat similar but obviously i dont have sakiko lol
while doro/amiya/tecno/underflow can be justified to an extent, it's good to use lower rarity ops at the beginning
well doro isnt really replaceable role wise generally so
what's your roster
roster?
all your ops
qiubai is multi target with a bind and deals arts damage only. sakiko is ST no bind and deals both physical and arts but also she has res and def ignore. they are most similar in that they both have shit cycles. sakiko can make up for that in IS tho 
How good is this team?
i mean ill just use both anyway i love qiubai and saki
click can replace amiya
steward can replace tecno once you get him
cuora replaces underflow
ptilo will replace whisp once you get her from the selector
check pins for tequila and krooster, and squad building in general
higher rarities don't always mean better
its pretty good but missing the other half.
Warfarin mission
yea ur good then
theres a serious problem if you dont clear
WAIT. ur 1 over
are they
i saw the skull earlier :susge:
anyway sakiko does have like 180k or something total damage while qiubai is like 80k but like yeah they both of their s3 feel annoying to use outside IS imo
is this about my comment?
no
its right next to the emoji button it was a misclick i swear
but yeah tbh i rarely use qiubai s3 i kinda have to force myself to use her nowadays
guys i got the top operator tag and the other tags are: "Ranged; Crowd-Control; Defense; and Shift"
which combination should i pick?
Sakiko is nice even outside IS, but i think she's overhyped in the general community
ranged crowd control for a chance at ceobe, or shift for weedy
i guess
she got the "Thorns powercreep" tag so you can imagine what people think of her outside this channel
there are somehow a lot of people who unironically think thorns is still meta
which one would you recomend more in general? (i don't have either of them)
I'd gor for 100% for Weedy personally speaking
crowd control+ranged is a 33% for Ceobe, 33% for Mostima and 33% for Rosa (which is trash)
How do I deal with the flyers?
brother
brother...
hmm alr, thanks!
Degen hits air
By getting the second half of your team
He's doing a module mission, limited to 7 ops
Naturally?
With skill 3
theyre doing warfarin module mission which requires 7 ops max
is a rule that none of them can be a marksman
7 ops, 1 Warf 6 others have to be guards
maybe it's a rule that he cant place thorns correctly
if not, just replace some of ur other guards with ones that hit aerial units
ah mb, thorns should definitely work tho no? https://youtu.be/4aXNy8dqHZg?si=55dbUhDD4DtT8LL2
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i know we shit talk thorns a bit here and there but thorns definitely works here
thorns is the chapter 2 champion
There is no value in adding any of the other ones right?
e2 thorns is the chapter 2 champion
Where's your Kroos and Lava alt?
I don't have neither of them
they're welfares
Get them, they work with Hibi
Hibi?
not much to really say
Ah
Invitation to Wine and Who is Real
Good time to clear side stories since no other event happening now
Should I upgrade mod or skill first?
Can do both
I see I use my sanity mainly to upgrade chars currently
90 from paid voucher?
So
Chat between cantabile, surfer,greyalt,or kroosalt, which one is the best to e2? (I have limited resources so can only afford 1)
Is there any like banner or character I should save for
Yes
I heard something like leis
Greyy2
do you already have Ines?
Leizi is the next event
Alright
Yes
then Greyy2 yeah
Which ones?
What’s are those ontop
Those pics on lower right really disturb
banner order
And why is there girls kissing in the image
because
Blame Fae
Hm yes pls tell them,I want to see actual banner guide not some yuri
you get both
Specifically CN banner order
@proven kelp you heard 'em
It's the maker's signature 
Which banner are we on
3 more days 😔
its not speculation anymore atp is it? its really fucking obvious anyway
Ye
Well we know for sure that it'll be Leizi with the skin announcements
And these events are always on maintenance day, so you can infer

Kroos alt is basically just a better version of Kroos?
Yuh
Do I have to pull on any of these banner if I started like 3 hours ago
I would recommend either rerolling now for Ulpianus or waiting a few days for Leizi to start
The latter is stronger if you can hold off
is hoederer a good op?
hes decent, meta in is5, just okay everywhere else
any synergies with stainless s3?
No lol

What
Explain what was unclear
I kinda rerolled to get silverash
Shouldn't reroll on the beginner banner
i mean rerolling on beginner banner is kinda pointless
mmm that's a bit of a waste
You get a selector on 5th day to get who you want
I swear I’m going crazy
you're guaranteed to get silverash anyway from day 5 selector, and whoever else u get from pulling beginner banner (after rerolling on a standard banner) doesnt rly matter
So should I just reroll again
id recommend it, youll be able to start with another really strong 6star and still get silverash
I mean if you got sash from the singles that would be nice
Like right now or in 3 days
I'd say just stick to your account, what do u have
Can do it now and then use whatever pulls you get to try for Leizi
if you can wait 3 days you should, but ulpianus is still really good
Literally just said he rerolled for SAsh
Like only silverash

I did say I started 3 hours ago
genuinely dont know what to do now? Pool resources? are any of the modules I dont have worth?
Oh, bruh
I mean.......
Sure go ahead, personally I'd just stick to the current acc ngl
I like to min max stuff anyways
Ulpianus mod lv1, Qiubai mod lv3 if you're keeping her in squad
Would kick Archetto, Gladiia, and Amiya
Not much to go off of with just who you're using right now
this isnt my squad, I dont really use archetto or gladiia. I just sorted by rarity this is my current squad.
How dare you use ulpi without gladiia! 
#arknights this way, sir
archetto is basically filler tbh I have nothing better except maybe krooster
If I wait 3 days I will definitely forget I was playing this game ngl
is qiu mod lvl 3 more important than ela mod lvl 3 or SA mod lvl 3?
Nah, raise those first
should I get qiu mod 1 first? or just get ela and SA lvl 3 asap
I'd focus on maxing things out first
so much lmd needed eeeeyikes
Get proviso from the selector in jan
so much RA and IS grinding...
Wait like how much better is Leizi compared to pianus
Base slaves?
Smh sounds like a them issue if they can't even look properly to the left instead of focusing on the right
What about your production?
3 xp 2 metal
Not materials, LMD income
Nah like daily income
Open your cc
Generally much better
this?
Yea u need base slaves asap
Start with proviso from the 5* selector this jan

I dont have like aaaaany of the TP setups on the guide
And why are you only trust farming amiya and perfumer?
There's like 3 more slots for other people no? You have CC lv 5
I uh completely forgot that was a thing
Don't really need combos. You can use basic base slaves from /baseskills to fill your buildings
Maybe he lacks TP workers
mostly tp workers I think

Can't really do much about it
Just continue doing recruit and pray you get them while pulling for Leizi Alt
Or just do Jaye + 2 other 30% acq eff worker, and amiya in cc
107% 
I have tequila
Oh wait I'm fckin blind
Tequila isn't gonna do jack without Shamare
yeah no shamare. I ran the jaye + SA + slots operator
Casually forgetting the last 3 minutes of the conversation
idk if its worth at e0 jaye? I havent really been doing any maths
You could do like jaye + courier + matterhorn or something
No
Just start with proviso on the selector in january
If you get proviso by accident via pulling for leizi or somethin then that's good, use the selector on shamare
Noted
I normally do Jaye + SA + Courier or Matterhorn or any op that gives slots
Why are you rerolling on beginner banner?
Dawg beginner barely matters stop rerolling
I got it from the 1 pull in tutorial
Why r u rerolling on that instead of anchor in the deep 
They started rerolling like 2.5 hours ago
Ah good
I should actually just wait 3 days
But only rolling beginner apparently?
That was their tutorial pull
Just stick with one acc for now, save for Leizi, if you don’t get her first 6* just reroll for her then
Worst of the bunch but that's lucky
Wait leizi comes out in 3 days right
ty for the help ill be in RA/IS purgatory till jan then <3 when is the leizi alter banner? she's like a mlynar "sidegrade" right? But like slightly worse?
I mean if they're rerolling they might as well reroll for Ulpi then roll for Leizi in a few days
You have a good chance getting her while grinding
Rather than not rerolling at all
Most likely
sidegrade means not better and not worse
Most likely?
yeah thats why I put it in quotes lol
We don't have dates
u can clear Ra within 5 hours btw
Guys is mylnar good, i got him instead of ulpinus in the banner
im saying that because you said "slightly worse" which isnt true, there are areas where leizi is better and areas where mlynar is better
yep I already got a ton of help in the RA channel
I might sound stupid but maybe he saw the guarantee 6* in first 10 pulls on the beginner banner and thinks that's better than ulpi's banner since ulpi only guarantees 5*
What are you guys using to predict the release dates
Skins announced from the event means she is next
Very good, better catch
better than ulpianus
Maintenance on the 11th means she's likely then but not 100% guaranteed
We know she's next because the skins that are released with her are announced
But unless #game-news specifically said what date, we don't know when
I have to admit that I am very new but it seems like mlynar is way more general than she is
Oh wow alright thx
for the most part they are interchangeable in daily use
there are obviously exceptions before someone nitpicks
How do you come with the conclusion that Leizi is worse on general?
Ignoring dmg because anything in general content will still die to either of them regardless so it's really that relevant comparing it
leizi does more total dmg less dps right
More total dmg at a certain point I think, like before enemy has 4 digits defense stats
on s2 i mean
UB is just a big ass aoe whereas leizi s3 has one less range and is terrain dependent?
leizi s2 is her most similar skill to mlynar s3
just seemed easier to use UB less thinking
is mlynar s3 like 93k
and her main skill aswell
its ~120k iirc. pre sure it was more than 100k even before mod
oh so it checks out
yeah s2 is also terrain dependent right? I'm not arguing against ofc since im the new player just wondering why they were considered similar in terms of ease of use
Chisa would know by memory 🥀
leizi s2 130k iirc mlynar 120k
it can be, the thing is that leizi with her take off making her immune to ground enemies allows for very aggressive placement, which can circumvent the range cutoff issue sometimes (probably)
All 3 of leizi skills has its uses, while mylnar is a 1 trick pony 
"kill everything" is a good trick to have ngl
I mean range isn't really everything, general content enemies will still funnel to you
Leizi is better because she has flexibility on her kit
Need constant dmg? S1
Need high dmg? S2
Big range? S3
Take off is also honestly a much better passive than taunt
But he gets weaker and weaker as he kills more
Leizi gets stronger and stronger as she kills more
s3 big range?
You act as if Leizi's skill also isn't Kill everything within range
Well not technically but the more lightning strike she does the more atk% increase she gets
Relatively big range compare to her other skills atleast
tru tru I just never spent too much time thinking on it
i mean s2 is massive
I think Leizi's frighten talent is also super good
s3 has massive range if you factor in the orbs right?
atleast at max it is
s3 is known for the big range? 
When wave gets big enough mylnar struggles to keep up while leizi just dont care lol
arent they like 5 tiles?
Shush, I forgot the use of s3
Can't concentrate rn since im grinding
u should see nasti s3 technology video
Did you see leizi s2's range
im not falling for nasti propaganda
It's like close to 20 tiles or somethin
yeah 3 tiles, very big
nasti showcases are showcases of other characters but with +60% atk
????????
is it not 3 tiles? am I going crazy?
Leizi2 s2 has a range of 3 tiles????

Skalter with perma buff for her to buff sounds busted frfr
s2 range is 3 ground tiles in whatever direction around leizi
It's a fckin diamond shape with 20 tiles or more, it looks small cause it usually gets gimped by terrains
personally i counted more than 3
mhm
yeah 3 tiles in any given direction?
its a big range.
I said it was big! ^^ this wasnt sarcasm
especially in more open maps
That's bigger than the horse uncle bruh
just dont deploy her on ranged tile after you got jet-black shoes collectible
i think mlynar's front tile is 4 ahead but anyway leizi does overall have more tiles to work with + can just be placed in the middle of the map without dying
I was agreeing 😭 UB just seemed more braindead cause you dont need to care about terrain
oh nvm its 3 ahead for mlynar who am i thinking of
im so doing this with s2
still 3 yeah
Does Leizi S2 mean it stops extending when it reaches a ranged tile?
he also only get 2 tiles to the left and right, more like SA downgrade amirite?
for the record this is a joke
i have unironically found the extra side tiles of silverash useful before he does so much less damage though
cant even say something wildly wrong as a bit anymore 😔
leizi s2 is 3 ground tiles in any direction starting from the 4 adjacent ground tiles to her
the regulars here are completely incapable of comprehending jokes you get used to it
often ill find that on maps with 2 tile wide ranged sections the extra 1 tile lets SA cover 2 lanes at once which is comfy
please understand that we deal with enough people who dont say it as a bit 
I was very active on limbus help for limbus company for ages the takes I saw were crazy
yes
if you've played Minecraft before, just imagine putting a lava bucket on her position, her range is how far the lava flows
Why not use a water bucket
weird but accurate comparison
because water goes 8 tiles, lava is 3 tiles so exactly Leizi2 s2's range
it cant extend beyond its natural range though right?
Fair
some of the limbus players spilled over to AK after the AK collab. i think we can grasp a general idea of what you had to deal with
Whats the best way to get EXP/battle records besides the base? Are the EXP specific stages even worth farming?
not being able to hit over ranged tiles is gonna be annoying
Events, and one time rewards from IS and RA
And no
roblox... so much... roblox...
Ah okay, tysm 
its map dependant but like i said before, her take off allows for pretty aggressive placement, so you can kinda circumvent it
just remember that it's off-skill, so unless you're using s1, the take off only allows her to charge safely
generally when she is charged everything in her range will fucking die anyway
Rose ur pulling right? ur pulling .
i cant i did math on my future savings and i cant risk it
Newbies also has Silence, so they can just dump her drone on her while on skill
are u actually locked in on p6 saki
her s2 is probably the skill that leaves her the most vulnerable tbh, on s1 she's just basically invulnerable, and on s3, in the situations where it's good the enemies will most likely be permanently frightened anyways
no ill have barely enough for hoshi+haruka if i wanna save 100 for saki 😭
what is the next event coming? i forgot what the order is
Leizi alt banner
Leizi2 then IS6
is6 was announced ?
Leizi is tied to is6 just like how Nymph is tied to is5
neither were technically announced
It won't be released with Leizi
is6 will most likely be a week after leizi, like is4 was with typhon and is5 was with nymph
Will be shortly after, yeah
are there ways to buy module with real currency?
module materials?
the module block, yeah
there are occasionally some packs with them but idt they are really worth it just for that
Real currency? Like irl money? Then yes
which one is it it? i can't seem to find them
dont think there are any currently
mod blocks are a pain you kinda just gotta make due with red cert shop / event shops / SSS monthly
sometimes they will appear
ok ok
Oh also which one has higher dps mlynar s3 or leizi s3
mlynar has higher dps, leizi has higher total dmg (on both s2 and s3)
also leizi's main skill should be s2
mlynar's dps falls off really quick if hes killing multiple enemies too
yeah ik im just wondering if masteries for S3 would be worth since S2 has a pretty bad restriction
s2's restriction isn't that bad tbh
its still s2 even with that restriction. do s1 too. s3 is the least used skill iirc
module economy cannot be this bad
it is
I got moduels on most of my operators im not exactly out of resourses
new players are swimming in module blocks
i often cannot get mods for weeks after their release 
I am constantly running out of mod respurces 
but vets are yeah
leizi total dmg need terms and condition applied
for s2 its pretty consistent no?
How else am I going to afford for things like dororat mody and flametail modx
i'm missing 12 module resources block and i wanna crash out 😭
just use nasti s3 trust
i know it has SOME rng but not a lot i thought
because her total dmg depends on the lightning strikes
im new but i'm also running out of module block
everyone is a victim of module block drought
are u mod3ing everyone or smth
a lot of my unit are only mod1
definitely it is
that's wierd
actually i could get 12 block rn but i have to farm is5 for 80 level dies
you can do that in one sitting is5 is easy to farm
better than spending irl currency though, i guess
it's rng but it also isnt. it's more based on the amount of tiles in her range. the actual lightning rng isnt completely rng according to fib but regardless all you need to keep in mind is to try to keep a decent amount of tiles in her range for her to ramp up quickly
honestly it's probably because i mod1 the 4* thinking it's just 1 mod too
but there are like 80 4* so thats 80 module block 🥀
right, i just re-read the talent to confirm, its 10% every second for each tile so that makes sense
somewhat adds to the restriction of ranged tiles reducing its range ig, but in practice i doubt it matters often
s2 at best is like what 120k?
that's around mlynar total too
130k 
atleast im pretty sure this is an average and not max... i havent checked in a while 
i got like 3 mod3s and still have 60+ mod blocks so i figured new ppl just got alot of modblocks early 
Hi, im trying to beat Quilon on IS5. If i have the chalice, should i use Wisadel S1 instead of S3..?
S2 actually
no, use s2. s2 scales extremely well with aspd, its always better than s1
Ah ok.
I've only used wisadel s1 for sss 
infact you should be using s2 for like every stage that doesnt need anti-air
if you dont have masteries on it, itd be helpful to get them
60 mod block is crazy 😭
i just take a quick look at my total mod use, and it's 120 module in total
idk if that's a lot or little compare to you though
I got Dorothy around 7 pulls which skill do I mastery ?
new players start with a lot ye. i remember new account at like 60 mod blocks. now all my accounts are at 0 
That’s for module Y right?
you do want module Y lvl1 iirc, but mastery is for skill 3
maybe it's time for me to just lock in and grind IS, IS5 should be fast with lampingot strat right?
mod y ye. lvl 1 is fine to stop at. lvl 3 is good if you want to invest more
use blueprint squad, wis start, take lamp, refresh every node into a wish, put wisadel in f2 scout node, her + gummy + click can trio every f3 boss and fremont on all difficulties. 8-12 min runs
Freemont
how does wisadel deal with bad teleportation?
youll get rumble and all kings which is all you need. anything else is a bonus
retreat her after phase 1, kill her pillar with click and let gummy lanehold for like 30 sec, redeploy wis in same spot to kill phase 2
i see, so it's w2 solo -> deploy click to handle and gummy at blue box, then win
you place click and gummy after he does the tp animation
oh and what's the max difficulty
18, but 10 for exp. no point in going past 10 if you're farming
although you can use the same wisadel speedrun method to unlock d18 really quick then play normally on it afterwards
id say for fun but is5 isnt fun
realest line ever spoken
generally i like to also pick up any random 4th op from the first voucher i see just to bait his orbs so i can kill phase 1 like 20 sec into the stage. dont think you necessarily have to do this
I used to hate on is5. But I watched Kazdel Kasino not sponsored :clueless:
IS5 is more fun when you dumb stuff
explain... dumb stuff
yeah if you're actually trying to play 245 seriously its the most boring slop gamemode ever
Like tanking theresis with friston or doing last phase amiya with melantha
theres no sense of accomplishment
i maxed narantuya's s1. worth upgrading s3 still?
yes, s3 is generally her best skill
More like why did you do s1 first 
pretty sure u s3m3 first before u touch other skills
afknights
not a real thing
Afk mindset real
if its not real then why am i here. anyway does she have a module coming?
yes and its good
sweet. ok ill work on her s3. running out of stuff to do
ur not real
if everything is not real, then everything is real
who is real?
does leizi alter have an afk skill?
no
false advertisement
They draft for those biases and try to highroll. How is it related to whether or not IS5 is fun with or without those "dumb stuff"?
is5 is fun when you dont play it
Opinion rejected
Basically the simple thing. Things can stop being fun after repeating 10k times
at least it's giving me enjoyment of people's sufferings
IS in general is fun until youre 120 levels in and just want it to be over
i somehow saw an ah squad trying to clear ed2 on d10 in a tourney
cmon just say its a burnt out atp 🥀
true?
you know im always right jack
At least it isn't is3 🥀
Trying to play it again has traumatized me.
I hate dice so much I might start shilling dice squad
SGL 1 winner used dice squad 
since yall seem to be so knowledgable on IS. what's the better option here?
Wao a Defender supporter player 
option 1 surely for your enmity defenders
IS2 🚮
please understand im just sankta miksaparato player
no enmity defender
Legitimately I don't know is2 much at all. I just grab the hope :clueless:
Is this subject to change? Especially if CN get a new CC
yes there will be dusk nian yuri
I never get the 2nd encounter roll anyways 
2 hope unless you hunt for this node or doing some sort of low ops 0 healer.
you need that and the numbness or obscenity relic to form another relic that gives you a 2nd chance whenever you lose all your hp on a map that isnt a boss node
its like that 1 relic in is5 that i cant remember
ye.. brown books that gives similar effect to the end of times clock.
plus it gives you 10+ LP iirc
i think its also in is4 i just dont remember the name of the relic
arch of glyph lads
yes the circle thingy
Why do my gummy cost arms and legs to upgrade? 
I don't remember any relics that can increase this much.
Is this is2
Is5
Ohhh it’s that deep investigation
this is a deep investigation effect
Well yes, by the time a new CC comes high priority list will be have free slots so someone needs to fill in the vacant slots 
They just became high priority by default
Oh 
Spawning a lot of Doors thoughts has a reason. 
Is it safe to say that Nasti will probably ends up in skip tier?
Yes
Unless CN find some IS usage for her to be promoted, she will be in skip
Yeah this deep investigation wants you to scout/portal to e2 your ops
reading is a dying tradition
this isn't permanent right?
You already finish all the perma buff on that node, any upgrade will just last for this run
yeah but the way it's worded outside make it sound like unlock this make it so you have a chance to have the buff from the start
the last buff, no
look at this wording and tell me if it's not confusing
Which Saria module is better?
will last for the entire exploration
cost 2 plans
for a run yes
well yostar has been bad with translation apart from this
A random effect will occur every exploration, it means every run a random one between those 3 possible option is available
y level 1
yeah now i know, but when you think about it there's 0 differentiation between "a random effect will occur, and spending 2 plan on this will make it last for that exploration" versus "spending 2 plan on this will make a random effect occur every exploration until the end" 💀
the top 5 is permanent
the last one isnt
if you really think hard enough or experience it in a few run it becomes clear apparently
true just fuck around and find out
not like ur account gets deleted if u lose in IS
i genuinely do not think is5 is fun or exiciting enough to fuck around and find out unfortunately
then dont play it
play is3! you will love it
i don understand how people play IS then say IS isnt fun
cuz they play for rewards?
for the material??? 😭
i'm playing is5 to get reward and have more fun in the better is (read: 3 and 4)
me and my unfinished is5 battlepass watching while i boot up another is3 run (i finished rewards 3 years ago) 🚬
I mean, i never really got the impression that it implies its also a perma buff
theres a reason why they separate Consolidation Effect, which already says "will provide permanent effect"
If they're both Perma then theres no reason for them to separate them into Consolidation and Amplications, then it implies that one of them isn't perma
It doesn't help that from costing 3 plans to costing only 2 means that this is not the same branch anymore since theres no reason for them to make a perma upgrade cheaper suddenly
Is elite 1 silence worth the resources
Yes
Just e1 is okay I guess
You can use skill 2 as pseudo global heal
can ling's summons be healed by shu's ricefield?
If they are on a sowed tile yes, but they cannot directly get healed
it was boring af when i had a total of 2 units 
wubout perfumer passive?
That also works
All types of regen - not direct healing
tnx
ye IS sucks for smol roster lol
So I'm at 149 pulls on ulpianus, if I do 10 pulls at once, will the 150 rule apply? Or should I find a way to pull once and then do a dozen
depends on your pity, when was your last 6 star?
150 rule will apply
it will apply but god know where pity will take you 🙏
150 is not pity btw
it will apply but remember its next 6 star, ulpianus is not guaranteed at 150
the 150 guarantees the NEXT 6* will be him
it doesn't guarantee him on 150th pull
is it possible to bring support units in IS?
RA is even worse tbh
Only at the start
only up to three yeah, and only if you can afford it at the very beginning
ah i see, cause i wanna get the rewards for clearing IS but since im a week into the game im very underprepared, however isaw someone suggest just abusing a support to get the rewards to help accelerate progress
so using the 4th squad composition, which has the guaranteed free 4* voucher, is very helpful for using support units (cuz you get 1 support + another cheaper support + the free voucher)
you just gotta reroll it a bunch of times
If ur really itching to beat is you can get pretty far with one hard carry + a supporting cast
Just arguably boring and monotonous
its cos its not meant for new players
?? borrow wisadel = isntant win
beat me to saying it xP
itll be nice since free mats is free mats so ill probably jus do that
Hey2, does Penance use case is completely similar with Mudrock?
They have polar opposite use case
Mudrock for slow hard hitting enemies
Penance for fast hitting not that hard hitting enemies
they both fell off. nowadays mudrock is uhh more interesting for her shield talent but they both kinda just hold a lane
and they dont do it very well
Eh, shield is for Penance no?
Thats barrier
Oh ya, i remember. Thx all
With Sash2, will both (or one) of them become relevant if 0 DP?
no
DP cost is not the reason why they're not relevant
its their kit
they could give you dp to place them and you still wouldnt bring them

Imma be honest, how is lappland the most reccomended 5 star from selection, when she is just a glorified arene with the ability to apply a niche status effect and be able to hit two enemies in a uptime of no more than 50%
least shit option. there's basically nothing else in that specific selector
Warfarin? Or specter?
have you seen the selector
an argument can be made for either of those. problem with warfarin is that you'd be getting 3 medics from selector. specter is just debated if you'll ever use her. e2 is very vital to her but you e2 tequilla usually
But people tend to pick silverash either way, and they are bound to eventually e2 him or mlynar
why specter is even in competition
brooo have you seen the selector
specter is doodoo at e1 and you re not e2 ing her
Warf is decent if you start with a strong 6* that has atk scale like the recent Exu2 banner
Specter is just not
Abyssal hunter faction, can block and lanehold without a tank, and she is hard to kill
what's on the lapp selector again?
Which one, there are 2
Coping AH for base spec is crazy
we are really telling newb to e2 mod 2 gladia for uh lol specter
ptilo and silence are from another selector. so argument between lappland feater specter and warfarin basically. doesnt matter what you pick ngl
chats, should I build crownslayer?
Depends, but hardly no
too much investment. very likely you have better things to build
it's ptilo lapp spec cliff
the big one is obv ptilo
oh mb this one is login one
oh wait the lapp selector is lapp/silence/ptilo/specter right?
If you have mats to waste and no one else to raise sure
Texas and yato alter exists
bassline good? i dont have saria
or just use gummy?
Just use gummy
I don't have no texas and yato alter 
i sent you the selector with lappland in it
should i e2 her?
Projeckt red is a budget version of them, but use her for the stun rather than for the dmg
oh it's the general selector? i guess it's really just kinda mid
Just e1 skill 7, unless you looking to do a big investment and have no one to build, then go for her only for module and skill 1 mastery 3
the only reason you spare a glance at gummy is because she cost 0 hope at is 5 
Might as well just do Bassline at that point
She can also stun 
gummy deal damage trust
And she cooks
no verifiable evidence that anyone has ever seen gummy s2 animation in an actual stage
Supah
Just got a top operator tag, should i use it with supporter, dp recovery, or just do melee and gamble?
actually for the first selector (lisk/pram/silence/red), isn't red a better pick than silence?
Melee, and pray it is mountain
god no
I was lured and seduced by the most hated Italian rrknights youtuber to max out my Gummy. kind of mid outside IS5.
Silence keeps your team alive, that sounds better than stalling stunning bosses
yeah but you could just use sussuro instead
ok but silence tho
but sussuro tho
what will red do
Got thorns from it 🔥
Can sussuro spawn a drone with 5 dp cost that can be placed anywhere tho?
If you don't have Suzu then pick Supporter
Nice, now e2 him, and get his module
she seems pretty useful in is in general borrowed her once and it was a mini healer
can silence compete with +100 atk & +100 aspd tho?
drone
Yes, and she also emuachs saria
wtf truth nuke
what is emuach?
no clue
she kisses saria, little known fact
oh it's an indonesian slang
When two girls love each other so much and kiss
this is my squad, who should i build next?

oh my god
modules
oh wtf... help chat getting raided by Indonesians
finihs building current before build next need modules
grab their mod and mastery
anyway idk if silence skill hps is the same as sussuro, but i'll take your word for it then
Module them
i dont have enough modules thingy
Then wait for december 11 and clean the event shop, and then so IS monthly squads and ops
e2 gracebearer holy
i like herv
she's quite nice for a 5*
E2 grace is the meta option tho
Tell me a use case for her aside of 5 star only clears 
If you started during exualter and got her, she was the better e2 ticket pick
you can make the same arguement with literally every other 5* that's not used in base
New IS coming?
Idk, ask hypergryph
Yeah, it’s likely to come after leizialt
soon
i do started on exu event, but sadly no lemuen
You’re fine without Lemu, Exu was the better pull anyway
Ptilopsis has global sp battery, surfer and cantabille can function both as fast redeploy and early sp generation and even early laneholding, and shamare does both atk and def reduction with a very good uptime and being cute
Ok but ptilo gets replaced with most 6 star medics, and shamare is kinda sorta only used for buff army clears
Triple healer in a squad is a bad idea, right?
Like Ptilo,Perfume and silence
Ptilo and silence is more than enough
holy yap
newb need dps
use e2 voucher for dps 🤯
can we move on from all this bait
I thought that was obvious 
ptilo is mainly used for healing ability. if you look at good team comps they usually run mon3tr or eyja2 or soon to be haruka. canta and surfer are good in general and quite good for 5* but the thing is... ines. shamare is niche. very niche. there's 5*s that are niche yes but you wont generally be using them
I have lem and Exu alter
Depends on stage and strategy, and reed alter is a medic, but functions more as a caster, same with skill 3 mon3tr, but instead boss killing with true dmg
hey guys should i start with a comp for mizuki or wisadel in IS?
i mean the specialist comp or sniper comp
Wis is the better start I think, for spec start you do Exu
Atleast everyone can agree wis adel is absurdly broken
if you arent banned from using wis, you use wis 👍
Whos banned from Wis usage other than in tourneys
alr should i do 300 for her? i have 200 now
Will she rerun or will she forever be support slave?
theres ban mech? 
people who want to play the game and experience its mechanics 🤫
Sparking her, don’t bother
As a featured unit, i don't think, but in silverash alter you can spark her
if you lucky enough in anni banner, you will have like 5% of wisadel if its a 6* 2 featured ops is 70% total (35% each)
Soooo like 1% of en
maybe less
i wont be surprised if 98% of the players failed basic math
sound like before wisadel we dont play the game
it is not about wisadel
You’d be surprised by the people who forget that pre-Wis era existed
i forgot i have wisadel tbh
is there a specific mission I should be doing to get my orundum weekly done?
isnt chalter still OP?
Like maybe, 3 years ago
yea she is top tier when she released but she got powercreeped
She’s still a good op, but nowhere near the podium now
how good is poca guys?
Say, Thought on NTR, I actually wanna have her that I'm willing to Whale for her.
got better with her module but otherwise not amazing
honestly to check meta just go through kyostinV's 1 6-star guidfes and see who he uses
Fell off hard, like barely has a place in current meta
there is ops deal more dmg than her, there is ops slow better than her -> she is powercreeped
Shame
true damage dealer has issue of being backloaded
she was really interesting on release ig
still has the "takes 0 deploy slot" niche but it hardly matters
the 6 star fast redeploys do her job but better and on a significantly shorter cycle
tip: someone that fell off can still be used if you like them, you just wont get justification
can I just proxy any old annihilation to fill out my 1800 weekly reward?
ofc
Tho we certainly will advise against sparking her
either do the rotating one (if u can) or do lungmen downtown
yeah I did the rotating but not on auto because I used a borrowed unit
What's SA2's main skill and does he have a higher DP gen than agents?
then proxy lungmen downdown
the old rotating map no longer give orundum, so you either do the 3 permanent site or current rotation site
2
dp gen is not his forte
he has this gimmick to mess with your deployment deck
ok thanks
why am i getting x?
considering just from initial deployment to the end of his skill on s3. he produces 0.62 dp per second for 53 seconds
amazing fact
also the dp swap thing and all that
you didnt mention his dp gen at all lmao
is this normal? if so thats really annoying...
i dont give a shit if you say his s2 is his main skill. saying that dp gen isnt his forte is objectively false
Spend a module 😈
sanity is refunded if it overflow the reward
it isnt
ah nice
ok you're wrong 
If you can auto sweep the rotating annihilation at 400 kills that won’t happen
Are all nearl been powercreep?
isnt the dp swap a one time thing? for sash2
not the rotating im doing downtown but I didnt realise it refunded overflow. I am much less annoyed
It does, but less so. You get 1850 if you run it 5 times
Like the nearl family? Only mlynar hasn’t
That’s true, I was just thinking of being 50 short specifically
mlynar nearl? no
between trag, wis, thorns, and exualt, which module should i unlock first? wis already unlocked first stage
The family
Only mlynar is still meta these days
maria is a circus
Were any of the other horses ever meta?
You could maybe argue for ntrk back in the day?
whislash and og nearl was never meta
blemishine was mid even on release i think
ntrk idk
zofia has aunty syndrome
is there a guide/image for optimal ways to farm each material?
the legendary blemishine meta ever happen
Wis > Exu > Trag >>>>>> Thorns
Holy fuck I forgot whislash even existed 
Wis mod 2+3 probably still the top priority. Exu2 and Tragodia modules are both great + they’re top 3 operators. Thorns modules are great but Thorns is still mediocre with them
Sorry, so what kind of content is SA2 good for? high end IS/CC? General use? pram2 buffer?
blemishine mudrock was a thing trust huff copium
SA2 can speedrun stages into few seconds
People still try to cope that shit it's sad
Still???
Speedrun?
i tried it one time to never again
As in plopping down all your ops very quickly
Being able to reduce dp costs and all
what should I use OP on as a f2p (I do not care about skins)?
i can't lie i think sa2 s3 is pretty good for general content. you get 48 seconds of nuking shit early on alongside with 33 dp, life seem simple enough
Wait i have 23 originite prime on my account how did i get them
Pro enhancement packs and pulls
finish a stage in less than 2 seconds
How to get to ishar mla in is3? I killed the knight and notin hapnd..
ty ty <3
bagpipe mvp
She's the first 6th floor boss, there are different requirements you need to meet
that's different ending
Wait that sounds pretty good then. What's the catch? Isn't that the main role of VGs? Sounds like a great pull/banner unless Pram2 is bad outside of AFK
Not as good as it sounds
I thought there were only two 😭
Unfortunately
unfortunately ines + flag is still a thing
IS3 has 4 endings
Ok then how do i get the other two ones..
Oke
Are people thinking Ines is still going to be preferred in most content over SA2?
isharmla boss fight kinda underwhelming
Does story give you these originite things
Every stage has them for first clear
Very generous
Even the cutscene stages give them
Can executor alt hit air enemies?
Nah
Wait what
is it better to farm directly for the t4 materials? or farm their components and craft them?
Motherfucker had a shotgun
why would a reaper hit air enemies
Does the senior operator tag have a chance to get removed when recruiting?
Shotguns only shoot down I guess
Shotgun....
Using 50lbs slugs, can't aim higher
It’s obv cod logic
Not if set to 9 hours
Gotcha
The other tags can still fall off at 9 hours, just not top and senior
So is SA2 just gimmicky? Worse DP than agents and flags but has some utility?
Does og lappland hit air?
Yes
Yes cuz she’s a lord


