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oh i see
or was that IS4, forgor
IS4 still can, I have only cleared end1, end 2 and 4 I encountered and failed
is5 does allow ed2 immediately i believe
is vigil good?
Oh right forgot ed2 is from F2
yeah basically
main distinction is whether it’s a 6* you’d get at all costs or a 6* who you still want but would be fine skipping
any mastery/mod recommendations? here's my krooster
https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/roo
mlynar mod3 and ascalon mod1 are the main ones sticking out to me
silverash mod3 is good but it depends on if you use him at all
i rarely use him since i only ever used him for the invis reveal (but i already have ines)
which mod for ascalon btw
X
yeah i just checked mod y, makes sense
also do ange/ros is mods if you play is
ange s3 ros s2 too
oh then ill look into that since i plan to play is5 after being gone for a long while
hoederer is good in is5 if you plan on playing a lot
which skills to m3?
s1
hmm alright thank you!
is5 lets you stack aspd easily and s1 scales well with that
Module? Or that is skip
Mod1 is fine, sure
What sidestory stage do we have to do for leizi alter's mod?
dv-7
Alright,Thanks .
After their first reruns do limited operators get anymore reruns
limited ops don't rerun
they just get added as siderates in their respective limited banner pools
So when Dei Velluti gets a rerun, alter lapp will be a siderate?
when her event will rerun, there won't be a limited banner
Im not understanding what you mean then
can anyone check my krooster in my bio and tell me which operators are best for IS?
which IS?
Wouldn't build specific operators for IS unless you want to dedicate time to playing those IS
hmmm... Sarkaz, Expeditioner, and mizuki
For general, several 3* for IS2-4: Spot Ansel Orchid Kroos Fang Steward
IS5: Gummy Click Beanstalk May Deepcolor Ethan (E2)
E1 max is fine for everyone here 3* and 4* alike
Ethan goes to E2+S2M3+mod3 though
ok 3-5
-2
i mean just gummy click and maybe ethan for is5, aside from that there’s not much else you can do but play better 
so we use lower rarity operators for IS.. makes sense.. 6 stars always cost a lot of hope
5* are mostly used when you know what they are doing
their cost in hope is high and its hard to justify unless you also know what you are doing
your 6* draft prio tends to just be your best DPS too, atleast when learning
with how few (built) 6* you have you’ll likely end up drafting most if not all of them in a lot of your runs but don’t let that convince you that you need to start building 5*
Coming back to ask for help! What should I do now? 
Build base slaves
Is Tragodia's s2 considered a summon?
https://www.krooster.com/u/jamong
Yay. I made my profile.
Are any of those worth leveling?
I'm doing an IS3 run and was wondering if the summon-stats-boosting collectible I got affected Tragodia or nah
degenbrecher maybe, she’s kinda a one trick pony though (click button, kill things, wait 30s, repeat) ft possibly for base but it doesn’t look like you need her, irene and stainless are forgettable
Afaik ye, IS summin relics work
But shit like ente s2 doesnt
Its kinda weirdge
yes it counts, you can check this way in an operators profile
Oh alright
the button will appear/disappear depending on the skill for some operators as well (tragodia, silence, etc.)
Honestly even with that description I wouldn't know what to make of it, but thanks for the tip
ex.
I havent played in ages are the new IS themes more worth than old ones?
i just mean that the fact that the button is there means the game considers it to be a “summon”
Mods! Hes flexing!!
They give similar rewards
nop my sexu is p1 so she sucks balls
Got it
ty! I checked the IS channel but I couldnt find any guides on the older IS. Do they exist?
What a garbage human being
drop this atp
Just borrow wis and you should be fine
o, ive just been using ela and SA and shu
Wisadel is really strong while also ignoring a lot of threats with her camo
Hello chat, what is the conclusion of Ray ModX vs ModY, and also M3 mod considering the +10% atk.
I have a guess but I'm not certain.
new mod does more dmg but personally i like the modX sandbeast buffs more
i also only have a guess which is that mody encourages more of a “use skill at 8 ammo for (supposedly) more damage” while modx is the more consistent and reliable mod
light did some maths and testing tho so maybe ask him when he’s on
Dmg vs cycle
I habe her mod3 already
Mod in 6 months, not relevant enough to get her mod6 
ela should be a fine carry for most of the old IS, though yeah it wouldn’t hurt to bring another top tier at the start, esp if your roster is lacking
If I do go for ModY lv2 is fine, right?
ModY (83K) without sandbeast (72K) does almost identical damage to ModX with it (74K)
wao how broken
So barely any diff, roger
i save my mod blocks
Depends on what you are doing
if its IS5 with high ASPD, her reload is a problem, so ModX can win
I'll wait then tbh, 4 less mod blocks and better off-sandbeast numbers is more tempting.
How about M3 mod? The numbers were higher than I thought
is this assuming 8 ammo start or…?
heh… imagine no aspd breakpoint
ModX and Y don't seem to change much for how many are fired but maybe im doing something wrong
This is your chance to prove me fraudulent
And let me be lazy
didnt you say it was 6?
we dont need to prove it light
yeah that’s so piss idt she’s getting another shot off just based off of intuition
no proof 
well shes only reloading one at a time here
From math i did mod3 gives her 6.7k more total dmg to s3
So about a 14.2% increase
something tells me im wrong to think theres no difference but it could just be that ass
But her s2 healing got quite a massive buff i refuse to math
i mean modx just reloads once for 2 bullets and skill ends halfway through second reload which is a decent amount of time
Nevermind im not wrong 8*1.6 + 0.4 + 1.6 = 14.8
1.2 seconds of leeway is enough to reload and fire
10 shots makes sense for mody
with the little extra ASPD definitely helps
Are we able to obtain operator Misery for free anytime soon?
no
Thats not really an operator
not playable
Oh....
he was only in stronghold protocol no?
Her s2 number improvements assuming it gets all 3 targets look kinda crazy given all the reductions to healing loss.
🫡 👍
wha ghost ping i closed discord for 2 seconds
Too slow
It also just buffs atk better so like ion saying no to that. Guess she's mod3. Rip blocks.
Oh
Im dumb, i see
I did monster s3 math wrong
Whatever, take like 1k dmg off of my math
Cuz i mathed it like u have her construct next to her thru entire s3 duration
But u cant have that
Can only for the final 10~s
Oh well, its a diluted buff anyway
I use her for s2 mainly anyways
Also, just to confirm Nasti s2 is kinda ass right
I was trying to napkin math her numbers and got absolute slop.
Idk
Outside of her gimmicky s3 high tile creation, she looks kinda ass to me
dorothy or irene,?
Neither..
ok im skip
it seems like units on the created high tile are stronger? from a tiny amount of gameplay i saw
Up to +60% hp, +60% atk
Or is it x1.6? I forgot, this is actually rather important too.
seems not bad
Well, sure
But its just +60% atk that will get diluted by ops skills anyway
Outside of few exceptions perhaps
Exu, ray, eblana
Can make use of it i suppose but
Yk
Exu2 probably is most notable use case imo.
narantuya fans crying

Why is Exu2 most notable when they are all attack scales
Exu2 is just strongest obviously
Isn’t it 160%
Whar
No?
Am I tripping
Oops
Maybe I am
Thats to herself genius..
That's herself.
no news about leizi yet uh, what events are left before hoshi2 banner?
Bonus of the tile, is written on the tile
I think this should be accurate
Read the tile part.
Yeah I saw
Anyways she seems good when needed but like most supporters, niche. I'll probably just borrow her if I need her instead of blowing pulls.
nope. stay tuned at #game-news
Mafu

Yahallo Fred 
hi mafu
Yahallo JJ 
What do I do with pledge of Babel for ending 2? Just carry it to the final boss?
Si
On the node just before the boss on f5 you can choose the 1st option and give it up for ed2
yeah, use it on the last prophecy node on f5
is crownslayer worth the investment if my only fast redeploy is texalt?
no
nope, CS with the new module is at best a niche operator. And there is no need to raise another expensive fast redeploy operator if you have texalter except yato2
has anyone read nasti's kit
I did, you also can do it
too early to have a definitive opinion, but it seems like she will be relegated to being a niche operator used in specific contexts
attack +160% and def +160% on s3. im wondering if thats talking about the operator on the placable thing
What’s the best choice for this?
save and use them when you are in dire need. Peter had a sheet with best mats ordered iirc
Any idea where I can find it?
it's +60% btw
How is Raidian?
oh no, that +60% was for the operator on the platform
She is fine. Thanks for asking
ohhhhhhhhhh wish it was for the operator thats placed on the platform
meta in is6, outside of it she does summoner things
yeah, got a little confused in the translation
listen I tried to do normal IS2 but I kind of failed how many floors are here
same. it wanst very clear and i got confised even though im chinese
artificers known dps operators
the only is i like is is6.
it's not even out
there are 5 floors, you only need to reach floor 3 for the monthly missions reward
they play cn
question
if i pick Nuker + Sniper + Caster, will Leonhardt and Firewatch both be in the pool? does it work like that

you wanted me to get to deep investigation remember
one tag will get crossed out and you'll get either
deep investigation has different objectives depending on the mission
amazing
yeah I kind of died at the last node
absolutely fantastic
so I didn't unlock deep investigation
some are easy requirements, others are hard
check for mission that gives the mat you want but that are affordable
borrow Wisadel/Exusiai2, it should be pretty easy doing ending 1 that way
why theres endings man I dont uh whatever you know I have wisadel
ending 1 is the "standard" ending that you'll get
depending on some actions during the run you can aim for other ones
I died at the red mist stage it's at the floor 5 right?
defending 4 lines is difficult
is the upcoming week a blank week? No news on next event
ins't next week when leizi alt comes
no idea, no in-game news
news are released like some days before the event drops, there is no need to think we'll have an entire dead week between Ulpi and Leizi2 event (if it's that we'll get)
also you can check wiki, more than that we can't tell you
yea, guess so, thanks
you don't need to block all laneholders, I'm pretty sure Wisadel can take care of 2/3 of them alone. Also, who are you drafting
wisadel cannot do the middle line
unless I placed it wrong
It wasnt difficult at all.
You just need to defend the mid lane. Then put heli drop on bot and top lane
I placed my best laneholders on the other lines 💔
what do i do with this? save it for now?
check pins
oeuah
I mean if you dont want to gamble just save it yes
Use when you're rolling in the gacha
okay so from what i gathered, ulpianus isn't really my top choice right now. im saving
hes not bad at all but next banners are cooler
is nasti limited? and i switched to 2-5-2 recently and i have 800 excess crude gold, is this normal?
shes not
one of the main point of using 252 is that it's more flexible that other counterparts
you have 2 fac for gold, 2 for exp and a flexible one
if you have an overproduction you can simply do 2 gold/3 exp factories
building up gold excess is normal if youre running 3 gold factories and dont have proviso/shamare/tequila to process it fast enough. consider swapping to 2gold/3exp
or you can improve the trading posts by using better ops, we'll soon get a selector and you should chose Proviso from there in case you don't have her. She eats so much gold that it will disappear at a fast rate and 3 gold fac will be the only way to sustain her
should i e1 or e2 proviso just for base, im end game
e2 her, e1 doesn't improve her base skill (like 99% of the 6/5*)
ok thanks
also i see, im running 4 gold, so i should switch to 3 instead and 1 exp? (since im gaining excess)
wait, are you using a 252 layout?
Which is easier to farm?
not really with like the min maxing, only with the factories, trading post, and power plants
[2 trading post, 4 factories, 2 powerplant]
check Peter sheet, I don't remember. /material in #bot-spam should give the link
is it wrong? 😩
where the other 1 factory go?
yeah, since you have 9 total facilites on the left so you're missing sth
youve got room to build 1 more
OMG im doing 2 -4 - 3, so i have 3 power plants
switch to a 252, better production overall. #r-i-i-c has in the pins a way to go from 243 to 252 in 80 seconds
ok
okay I found which stages* better to farm, but the question was which material was the easier to farm since both have effiecency but no comparison from the sheet
you farm what you need 
im about to use vouchers so this is important
vouchers?
Vouchers - Guaranteed given items of the materials
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WSEzjegLKeFXaOKPgpyNkw5vWQsa4woCQ8m2sm-UFQY/edit?gid=2112700769#gid=2112700769
check this then
and Ik what a voucher is, I just didn't understand the implication
ah
ok the /material thing may be outdated cuz chapter 14 stage seems cheaper by 3 sanity and rarity is tiered at "uncommon" which iirc is more common than "rare". for Oriron Clusters.
why does this keep showing up? is it important?
what's the difference between a regular token and a kernel token
a dupe is a token for the specific character, the other token is a purchased one by the shop which can be used to dupe any character of that archetype and rarity
@median fable i feel really uncomfortable downgrading like everythhing, even my factories, is it that efficient?
I never bothered checking that, but you can ignore hg nomenclature. You can check penguin stats for actual sanity needed per material
ohhh, so kernel tokens are like.. universal?
are underflow tokens worth it to buy?
regardless u get returned materials 100% refund of downgrading em, except drones, which are accumulated currency over time
do you want the short version or the long one?
long
if its gold and black its for 6 stars, if its pure gold its for 5 stars if its blue its for 4 stars (not sure what the lower ones are), but u also look at the symbol, so in this case yes its universal dupe, but u need like 4 of em to make one dupe (they are expensive somewhat)
did you buy during them during the original event? If yes buy again, if not skip
ye cos throughout the years everything's been maxed and now im gonn ahave perma lvl 2 stuff and dorm that not maxxed, feels really weird
can you sc your base if you dont mind, or anyone that has a proper 2-5-2
wouldnt ulpi's event* have a rerun again sometime
this is the rerun
pretty straightforward math
243 has:
- 6 tp worker slots
- 12 factory worker slots
- 3 pp worker slots
- 206% innate order efficiency (0% workers)
- 412% innate factory productivity (0% workers)
- 15% innate drone charge speed (0% workers)
252 MR (we'll use 2 lv3 tp version for simplicity) has:
- 6 tp worker slots
- 11 factory worker slots
- 2 pp worker slots
- 206% innate order efficiency
- 511% innate factory productivity
- 10% innate drone charge speed
can remove the tp stuff from equation and now we have:
- -1 factory worker
- -1 pp worker
- +99% factory productivity
- -5% drone charge speed (roughly equal to 2.5% fac prod)
which in turn means the combined productivity of your 12th best factory worker + 3rd best power plant worker has to equal 96.5% in order for 243 to match 252 MR. This is not and never will be the case even assuming you have e2'd every op in the game now and for the foreseeable future
not mine, I just copied and pasted it
Oh I didn't
Which material should I buy with the excess currency then?
If it helps
the infinite resources ig (after u buy headhunting permits, and all the materials though)
can you show th lvls please (building mode)
Yeah but which infinite resouce
yeah, I also gave a 252 maxed right. Pls, trust me
preference, make a planner
Alr thanks
they are shown right there the levels
manganese
the levels are already shown wdym..?
true mb
are you already max right
in the video i saw that he left 1 dorm at lvl 2, if i downgrade that, can i upgrade a factory to lvl 3?
or not enough energy
not enough
here to you, so you can be sure I'm not trolling you
thanks, ive been very negligent when it comes to base
jj have no peanuts sadge
when is next CC?
it should be after Ato event if we follow CN
thanks man
the lv2 tp is only because I'm using Proviso btw. But you already said you have her so no problem
you can probably ask in #r-i-i-c , almost surely someone will help you (given enough time)
also start checking base combo file in their pins, even only the noob section as a starting point is nice
your highest %
thanks
you use the best % worker you can pair her with, in my specific case i'm doing mr nothing but it's hard to replicate. During downtime it's Underflow
I was gonna say something but I forgot most early/mid game players have ~30% as their best % so yeah she works.
from what he's said himself he's lategame player
Any clue when would the next chance to rate-up Angelina?
idt we even illegally know that man
You could use CN kernel banner order for a guestimate but even that isn't exactly reliable if I remember right.
An approximate 6 months since last rate-up, or if next Kernel Locating could have her
That's usually how rate-up rotations end up going, to my knowledge
yeah we dont really follow cn kernel banners either
On CN ange ran with SA as shoperator from 2025-09-18 to 2025-10-02.
She wasn't available in either CN kernel locator.
6 months is way too short as this is the kernel pool.
I remember she was available...2 kernel locators ago? 3?
Yeah, Kernel pool is larger than Standard... I remember last time I calculated shoperator it was standard, not kernel, so 6 months difference might be too little
and we have different kernel pool
I didn't calculate it on CN banners at all
well don't speculate here
Mountain had been rate up 6 months prior, and was currently running shoperator. I then saw Kal'tsit had ran a bit after that, and when I expected her to, shoperator. But that was on Standard
Anyways we don't know, and it's a bad idea to pull for her if she shows up and isn't shoperator, so just pray and sit tight.
best you can even 'predict' is to just estimate from shop appearance time gaps, like nfzen does it. even still, not a reliable enough method to be following it to the letter
What do i pick
debuff for shamare is the best choice in a vacuum
use krooster.com recruit calculator
who should i invest in and should i focus on maxing exualt mod or getting mod for others
I have shamare, do i get her pot
generally try to aim for someone you dont already have
are you pulling leizi alter?
idk probably yeah
exualt mod3 isnt a bad idea
silverash gets a lot out of mod3, ascalon mod1 is good, ulpi mod1 is nice qol, thorns wants delta2
Can someone remind me how much the effective DPS increase from Exualt mod1 to mod3 is?
i'd do masteries if you haven't, then save for leizialt mats
Better to look at total damage output difference
its like 7K or so between mod levels 1->2->3
not crazy but i feel like alot of people invest more for mods that don't do that much
though for exu herself, its not really high cuz shes already halfway through the ceiling
whats mastery prio my exualt is s2m3 ulpi is s3m3
leizi aura farmer event date isn't confirmed yet correct?
can't find it in game news
i should pull for leizialt if i dont have mlynar right?
Not officially announced but has been datamined.
As per usual.
Check pins for pull prio, plan, see if you want or can even afford liezi alt with your pull plan.
medic said the d-word
I'll give you the d-word.
Is Jaye a good base worker and should I e1 him for his base skill?
What makes Grey alter good for IS5
flinger hand and aspd
He's good. Leave e0 if for base
hes good at e0, his e1 base skill actually makes him a bit worse unless youre also running gnosis in control center
okay
- yes, he's nicey in base especially if new player
- unless you're using Gnosis you should leave him at e0
Greyy also happens to have a reasonable talent. Chance to slow + aspd means essentially aoe permaslow.
flinger hand, king set and lots of atkspd
flinger hand is cracked and he brings a level of crowdcontrol through slow that wis/rosmo dont provide as easily
w8 we have day left after event before weekly reset yeh?
Which module should i get next 
Yes. Check wiki.
atleas give degen mod1
hmm idk about ray if the new module is better or the current one good enuf
ok neat my sense of time kinda lost atm tnx

Imo Ray new mod is better in general content because even mod1 is an unconditional +13%, then mod2 is +8%.
It comes down to cycling your sandbeast and reload mechanic vs hitting harder.
new mod has notably better dps. if you would rather just optimize her damage and can go without as much of the sandbeast utility, wait for it
no way a mod6 char 🥹
In who should i pour my resources into now? Do i go for silverash module even tho i don't use him? Level any module? I am in chapter 8 currently, and i hella struggled in r8-8
Honestly I'd only mod2 Ray modY. Mod3 is minor stat buff and only +4%, half of mod3.
mod.. 5?
Me with my mod6 mudrock 
i have blemishine maxed beside the potentials dw 🥹
Help, idk who to pour my resources into, chapter 8 got me stressing
get silverash mod3, not sure why you wouldnt use him at your current roster size
e2 ascalon/zuo le/dorothy
If i e2 proviso for base, would she have utility in battle at all really?
If you had to say the priorities, could show it?
proviso is basically a slightly better podenco, if that helps
Well, she deals arts dmg and silences in aoe
shes also a very marginal mlynar buffer if youre bringing him
Ok so ig she wouldnt be too helpful for me
Zuo > asca > dorothy imo
New player here any tips on how to farm the gacha currency?
you should do it for base anyway. It's like looking at free money and say "nah, I hate money"
zuo le > asca > dorothy = silverash mod
Dailies + annihilation + weeklies
You get 5 pulls a week
lvl your saria or ptilopsis, and gladia
it's the only operator worth to e2 only for base for a reason
There's also free pulls in cert shops, 4 in green certs and 38 in gold certs, make sure you have enough for all 38 pulls in gold certs tho cause it resets monthly
Oh ok how many gold certificates I need?
its 258 gold certs for the full 38pull set
Is there any future units I'm supposed to look out for?
Pins, pull priority
Thank you
damn unfort
whats the mastery priority my exu is s2m3 and ulpi is s3m3
Asca > ines > sash/thorns
did you watch the video in loop for hours to come to this conclusion?
also, hi fib
evenly or focus on mastery 3
No CN sugar whales, bro just might be a fraud
no
Fraud
understand him, he's an "average" player
True, he really should be in #arknights
Anyways, early opinions on Skybox for 5* standards?
Question, where can i spend my sanity after cleaning event shop so my irl sanity and hair don't drop
Blow it on infinite mats by further farming the event.
Chapter 8 got me stressing fr
skip to ch9
Or just go to ch9 and farm the scrubs there, yeah.
And ruin my playing experience? Nonthx
ch9 is a different act
Wait he's goated ❤️🩹
It spoils some parts of ch8. I get it myself
heard sth like similar to Tequila, he does nth off skill and on skill similar dmg but aoe instead of multi target. Better ask shileds for this
Hey2, whats the use case for Mitm? Not for Dp i suppose?
Stall.
stalling niche
Do we draft her on IS?
Fun fact, if you ask what any tactician's niche is, the answer is at least partially stall.
him and I heard of some maps where he's great like hunting group
@copper oracle do you have more infos on Mitm IS usage?
walmart faust
end of list
hes copable in bsl too ig

Big Sad Lock. The teddy bear.
Imma just do is runs with monthly squads and see who will be blessed
elemental recruitment tag really only has a robot? 
Yes
hi can i ask for ur pfp source 🚬
It's technically Logos' Mom on VC, however, so allg.
Which one shoyld i upp
how much time do I put to get it
jess
3:50
Fib, we cannot be asking for twink pics in public...💔🥀
Jessalt.
To expand upon what socks said, too low and tag drops, too high and you get higher rarity. 3:50 is the sweet spot for robots, and even then there's a good chance the tag still drops or you get the wrong op.
Why tho
Has her tactical shield which gives her a lot of flexibility, a controllable aoe stun on s3, passable DpH on s3.
Also not tied to enemies attacking her in order to deal damage, like Grandpa is on s3.
Gramps biggest claims to fame is a bit of ammo reload and resisting lethal damage on s2, which, uh, has a fat 50 SP.
s2 resist lethal doesnt exist
seeing clips of skybox s1 immediately activating again after landing kills, is this intentional? its not written in his kit as far as i can tell
Bug
errr. what. send clips
didnt witness that fucking around with him
his s1 lowkey abyssmal dogshit
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https://youtu.be/vzku40aB9zk?si=hJdTWMB_EqdhNu-d happens pretty much immediately here
oh there was a patch like 2 hours ago maybe that fixed it
I heard there are some banners that never comeback, as far as I can tell they are collabs with other games. how do I know when they will happen and how much I have to save ?
HG patches mistake in few hours
Yostar fucks up event name and banner and never fixes it 
Does W's 100 DEF ignore mod also apply to her s2 and s3 or is it just for normal attacks?
fuck
there go my dreams of actually good welfare aoe phys dps
will stick to s2 then
You check announcements/news from CN for and guestimate event timing based on CN event timing, plus 6 months to account for the delay.
s2 is alright. also jieyun exists 
Just like any banner, really.
His s1 is an AFK skill though!
Annihilation metah!!
s2 currently without masteries and trust and full pots feels a little shit. but i think with them it will actually be on the better end of welfares
S2 looks good to me, imo because it's phys without masteries and missing stats ofc it looks bad.
i didnt know it was afk going into it. i had such a good laugh when i saw it auto cast for the first time
how much orundum does an banner like that require tho? is there an average or pity threshold
100 pulls for a guaranteed copy of the collab op.
i think maxed, he should be comparable to tequilla without mod
shes better
thanks 
5* Liezi Alter /s
jess and miksa feel about equal to me
Miksa has the simple problem that s3 is entirely dependent upon being attacked, and s2 is both weird as fuck and costs 50 SP.
best way to farm orodum ?
He's just way less flexible on average vs Jessalt. He also clearly is meant to synergize with certain Laterno ops, whereas Jess is very individualistic in her kit.
Do dailies, annihilations, clear all events + side stories if not done yet, etc
ok
Best way to boost it with 💳 is monthly card.
s3 cycle is quite quick for how long it can last though that depends on the enemy. if sankta isnt getting defense checked by the enemies, he does deal a decent amount of damage. jess s3 just feels a little annoying to use in similar situations
Yeah but you basically are just doing trash clear atp.
Jess shield, stun, SP boost via shield, etc all help her cycle faster than Sankta and survive better overall.
prolly overall she's better there but even with her shield and what have you it still depends on the enemy
It's really down to the fact that the blender, just like in his story, is really inflexible. Boomers are like that.
Jess is much more flexible at coping with a variety of enemies.
how good is wisadel s1 in IS5 compared to her s3?
S2 >>>> S3 >>>>>> S1
You use s2 instead, yeah.
miksa definitely has a bit less utility to work with if only because jessicalt s3 is a really well designed skill, but i find his s3 reacting defensively means he gets a lot more uptime out of his stat boosts onskill
when i use miksa his s3 is on then instantly off

? are you putting him against poison mist or smth
is it worth doing this?
not at all
Nope.
alright thanks
Which one is better for caster click or Ms Christine?
Click
click, christine is unfortunately quite horrible
Ms Christine, like most cats, is lazy and not really trying so her output is bad.
lol
does anyone know how the defense stat works
flat reduction to physical damage
atk - def = damage taken
Physical damage = Atk - Def, down to 5% of original Atk minimum as damage.
I mean anyone does if they actually paid attention to the tutorial
well post mitigation amps also apply
And yes, the tutorial tells you this Fae very kindly pointed out in a way that is exceedingly constructive.
the game tells you what def does, sure, but its not like the formulas are told to you directly
Fae don't kill me I'm ribbing ya
I mean the question is how it works, not the formula
well i played the tutorial 3 years before i actually started playing the game lol
Always worth going back. The tutorials don't cost sanity.
time is money
the real angle is to tell them to read a wiki
It's also nostalgic to play old stages. Money can't buy TR-15.
The loading screen tips also says it
vintage pipe
I tell this and no one listens. I chose to change my angle.
Maybe if it's in their afk point and click adventure game they just might click it.
no one listens isnt rly a valid excuse tbf. no one listens to "check the pins" either
Should i m3 lemon s2 aswell?
Should have keep trying
tr-15 my favorite plume propaganda stage :ya:

Please consult the prts.wiki article 67420329 for why I stopped trying.
may i suggest
Is is6 out
On CN yes
what's it about
Surely you know the answer to this one. Check what event is next.
What's that I haven't logged in in a while
Same shit as always. Run stages, fight enemies, reach endings
Look at the wiki.
Has new mechanics
socks
Honestly all i know it's that it's Sui theme and you want alot of units on that faction
is she good 💀 i somehow got a double
Pretty good
She's fine.
She is good for muelsyse
pretty good
thx guys
what is whisperain's main skill?
s2
Ideally you use neither and use ie Silence.
If you want to force her, s2 is arguably the only one worth considering.
I just got her in is5 as a temp recruit and i was wondering which one was better to use
Thunderbringer banner on the december 11th right?
Oh IS5. That changes things-with the aspd spam you use s1 instead.
Nothing announced for it so making a guess would be speculation
Any advice on who to E2 I was thinking thorns but I already have Lapland and Ulpi E2
Give your e2s some levels
And Thorns would most likely be your next best e2 target
Should also use Surfer

Who can i replace for Hoederer?
Executor
horn>thorns thoughts?
Wouldn't be the worst option
Nightingale or ceobe

What level should I be getting them to 60?
Neither one really get used much, generally. So I guess it depends on your other medic and caster options. NG used for res mitigation and Ceobe sees CC use
For ops that want module 60 is ideal
Others can go to 40
pinching hand emoji lowkey
thorns need mod and mastery to be whatever afk slop
Horn is cheaper, true
I have the elemental and robot tag, does that mean I'll get PhonoR-0 regardless of how much time I put for the recruitment? I assume it could remove the elemental tag and give me another robot
If you go over 3:50 it'll drop
horn maybe fell off but the range and burst is pretty fine
Oh is that because it eleminates 1 stars?
Yes
thanks
I pull on every banner so not a problem for me
ehh. i appreciate what thorns does more than horn nowadays
I'm struggling with 7-9, but that might be due to DP management.
ur loadout?
each time i try to replicate newb roster with thorns,he just does nothing
Horn is dedicated afk slop now too 
well yeah you need mod and mastery. you get mod and mastery and he's alright. they wont replace him for a long ass time anyway
LOL it removed both of my tags, I didn't even know that was possible
Should I just wait until my Myrtle is Potential 5 before attempting the stage?
whats the main issue for you in that stage?
Oh, so this isn't even bad luck. Common failure I see
yeah robot tag does that
it is what it is
Are you doing 4 star and lower only or something?
why u using lancet and not ansel
Like I said, DP management.
there's other questions id ask before that
Freaking dogs are really fast.
Meaning I should have gone higher than 4 hours but lower than 7:40 for the maximum odds?
3:50 for robots. any higher and 1* units dont appear and tags drop
I don't think this is a dp issue more than it is a damage issue
Sure the dogs charge quickly but if you eliminate them... well you don't need to worry
kyostinV ahh team
idk then i just use cantabile for my starting since she has dp management and good dmg
Oh I thought some rare robots might be 2*, rip
i only use flag bearers for annihlation
That makes sense. I'm just worried I won't have enough DP for my heavy hitters.
brother where are your higher rarity units 
what cursed squad is that
just place vanguard+sniper on right then a defender on left and stall out the fights
These are my 6 star options.

My man
bro

bro
you have mountain for rush
why are you struggling with dogs
mountain is right there
bro he has a better loadout than me i only have 4 6 stars 😭😭
i need that one emote bait or profound
You can get gladiia for free by playing past event right
yes
just don't deploy anyone until enough dp for mountain bruh
yea, she has some niche uses but overall not worth raising
I was trying to go a budget route first before pulling out the big guns.
Which lane do I put Mountain?
also why are you raising goober isntead of idk e1 ing that typhon
Dang, and here I thought she was the best roper out there and mandatory on some stages
But she’s very good with ulpianus
his lineup better than mine 😭
pulling is niche?
I mean, she can make Ulpi even more tanky.
yea thats the niche part
i see it more often than aa snipers
you can get 22 dp by the time the dog reaches the blue box 
shifters seem more of a newbie friendly mechanic where they may not have the dmg to kill a tanky mob so they have to push it off hte map
Prob because marksman suck 👌
glad does have decent dmg tho
erm
But seriously, which lane do I put Mountain?
glad doesnt have decent damage
What's the next upgrade after shaw? I remember seeing a push-sniper operator once, but I'm guessing e2 shaw can do the job in most cases?
weedy
weedy only
Got it
why use shifter when can just kill enemy
FEater, technically, but yeah. You'd only really use Weedy
left, vanguard right for DP and block first wolf. just whatever lane has pressure u need to relieve
wherever the enemies are rushing at you fast. if theres multiple, just use mountain to plug one and focus efforts on the other
Top and bottom lanes are pretty even at the start from what I remember
What do y'all do when recruitment has trash tags? I never know if I should spam 1 hours or 9 hours for random 3-4 stars
wolf goes right first hten left so depends on ur team rlly
Tagless 9 hours
Tagless huh, alright thanks
nowadays i do 1 hour for a chance at 2* and 1* pots but usually 9 hours tagless
even if the tags are bad, stick to 9hrs. anything below 7:40 can give you 2stars, and 9:00 minimizes the chance you drop tags in case you want to filter to up your chances at getting 5stars you dont have
I never noticed 1* robots had potential, good tip
they have low dp and can be used to bait attacks/block early rushes is what i understand for why ppl use 1 stars in their team
robots main thing is their potentials. it's the main thing you can upgrade about them. but they dont tend to really do things. more for collection
the robots are basically one-use temporary buffers in case you need to squeeze out a little more damage/survivability but dont have any extra deploy limit to work with
People have been coping the new vg robot for Lemuen 
Oh yeah I gotta check which 5* I'm missing, nice one
Nope. Still got rushed.
just cope plume smh
Right side kept getting rushed.
the new vg robot is good tho. it's like imagine uhhh texas talent but it's an on command sleep
why do u have 3 vanguards anyways. one vg into a guard should be enough
i will say confess is good for robot standards
DP generation.
You're losing more dp than you're generating trying to put down slow pioneers
Waow Sexas powercreep 
more vanguards doesnt help much if theyre dying before they can make back their own dp cost
Rq
Which banner should i be rolling on?
What's most useful in commendations 2nd stage? I'm guessing stacking up on ressources should be the priority since permits and vouchers cost so much
ulpianus if you want him, otherwise save
leizialt soon
Then I don't know how to deal with this. I placed down Mountain on left side, right side gets rushed. Then I tried putting him on the right side, not enough DP and his skill wasn't ready, so I get rushed.
might want to check skill levels on your vanguards
Ight
Im pulling (gambling addiction)
All of them are level 7.
never pull on kernel (blaze, ifrit), probably should never pull on standard (irene, dorothy), and maybe pull on featured (ulpianus, but there will be better featured banners soon)
Ah alright
i just noticed your funds
with what pulls
I had tickets
what modules do i want for an abyssal hunter team
yes 
is M1 on Degenbrecher good enough?
You put masteries on any operator you use often
Unless you mean module, then just mod1
lv3 everyone, all in
gladiia x3 and spectalt (take your pick)3 are the only ones to really look out for
skadi wants x3 for herself, it wont help the whole squad though
spalter would want the mody if inside AH and using inside s3
modx is mostly when used in s2 to abuse doll
oh does spalt uses s3 in AH, the sp buff looks pretty good
is mod3 on Lemuen a bit overkill or is it fine?
mod2 is enough for most purposes, lv3 is mostly just there if you want exualt s3 to shoot 1 more time
in total, how much buff can ulpianus get from skadi spalt and gladia
andreana i assume its pretty insiginificant right
do u have poncirus or cantabile? i used them to deal with early rush stages
when killing is hard, simple
3 vg is excessive since ur putting all that dp into units that dont really do much
poncirus is waste of resources when you have agents and flag
Mod3 benefits isn’t that amazing it’s just not worth it
Mod2 is ideal
she good for 2 block, good enough for the stage hes suffering in
oh... i did a misclick and went Mod3....
u dont need flagbeareres at all in story
err the only time two block vgs were good was in chapter 12
“Need” vs “best” is different things
he losing cuz they rush. if vg can block 2 enemy that mean alot
Nope. Neither.
other units can too
i just cantabile vs early rush stages, never rlly had a problem in that aspect
cantabile into humus on the other lane
skadi have 22%atk and 20%hp at mod3
spalter mod3 give 30% sp and the sp regen, .5/sec
gladiaa mod3 would give -30% dmg rdc while having 3.5% of their hp healed
andreana is uhh whatever but she buff 20 aspd
and to add og spec at mod3 boost dmg by 5%
but the thing to note is... u need the module to reach those buff 
thats why mostly stop with glad modx2
🥀 they dont have to be deployed right
Only glad and og spec
You dont really need all the buffs tho since ulpi can only die on
Texalt's CM S boss stage to Zaaro
Jessicalt's CM EX defenders spam stage
The mass travel CM S stage with Gelato Stops (if you dont kill the snipers fast)
P1 Patriot
The bear
Instakills
There could be 2 or 3 more but i dont remember
is this relying on Cuora's ability to give herself 4 block?
Trog was a blessing for me. I was able to beat this too and I started Arknight on 11/9. Love Trog
. But only Trog, Zuo Le, and Miss Christine does any good damage in my team.
Hopefully Hoshiguma or Haruka helps in the DPS department. I really want them.
wouldnt rely on haruka for dps, but hoshialt will help for sure
I am so excited. Saved up 200 pulls so far. Can't wait.
will misty city UI design ever come back? or maybe in future IS?
not in IS but it comes back in event shop
event shop? in what event and do we know when?
https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/jamong
Do I have any Sniper much better than Krooster? I actually hate Fiametta...
Or like a 6 star welfare sniper?
nope except kroo alter. But fiamette is good for base
Man. I wish I had Typhon, Exualter, Leumen, or Wis'adele...
But I won't have any pulls for them. Just have to pray for accidental Leuman during Hoshiguma2 pulls 😞
I am so glad this game has awesome character barrowing system. Made the starting journey so fun. Trying bunch of different characters.
There's always the $30 option for two of them
pretty new n clueless player, and i think this is the right channel to ask? i'm having a bit of trouble with teambuilding and who to focus investment on, since i got a ton of guards and not sure which ones would fit my team. currently trying to unlock autoplay on ls-5 but im struggling a bit
God bless your Exualter. Your character list looks amazing.
there is a team building guide in pins iirc
Use saria s1, e2 ulp when you can.
Get tequila and kroos the keen glint
folks what's the angle on skybox
s1 is abyssmal dogshit but it was bugged for a bit apparently. s2 seems aight after i get mastery + trust bonus + full pots
you want the office lvl1 lol
s2 is basically artilleryman with higher atk stat and slightly faster atk int yes?
for most optimal yeah but id rather have 3 ops on my profile and take the small debuff
do what you need to do but it's useless gain.
i think overall skybox is comparable to an unmoded tequilla in damage output
Office doesn't let you put supports, reception room does

same dph with around half cycle and around half the total damage
both their off-skill utility is equally shit
It genuinely is the Leizi vs Mylnar debate in terms of offskill. Skybox flies and can shoot in a shit range, Tequila can bait and reflects with some weak Arts.
the battle of who's shittier. it's kinda crazy
HG actually just saw us debating the two liberators and were like "what if we scaled it down to 5* (dogshit)?"
should i get silverash to 60 and buy his module?
If he's your main DPS still, sure. He wants his mod.
Then go for it
for numbers:
tequilla is 40 sp cost 30 duration. multi target 60k total
skybox is 25 sp cost ammo based skill with overload mechanic so around 11 second duration. aoe with 3x5 range 24k total
dph is about 2.4k each. tequila has higher cycle dps at 867 vs 679 from skybox
he's uhh alright 
dp cost is fucking awful tho icl
Probably because how the trait inherently gives AoE. HG usually makes AoE trait subclasses pricier than others.
what's his dp cost
21
Technically 24
eh that's on par with normal guard
he's a marksman tho 
Pots just drop it down 3 and he's a welfare.
Ts is NOT a marksmen dawg 💔 🥀
oh i meant sniper. idk why brain defaulted to that. brainfart 
it's 3 am i had a long day ok
anyhow 21 is pretty on par for non marksman
ill probably be using him a lot for welfare so i cant complain
finally ranged burst option :ya:
isnt that weird? why sniper tho? esp when we already have a sky ranger as a specialist.
(it is similar class)
In terms of welfares he's pretty solid imo.
yee he seems aight. it's just that without mastery and trust and pots he feels very... uhhh gifted child playing valorant vibes
Holy shit Valorant reference.
I love playing Fade from the hit game.
Feed the childe then give final thoughts imo. Phys ops usually feel a lot worse before they max out.
33% more dph on-skill. -5 sp cost. initial skill deployment from 14 second wait to 5 second wait. trust gives 85 atk and pots give another 35 
does anyone have this guy at mod 3? im testing something
Especially welfares since they get gimped a bit more statswise.
yoooooo
halo im a returning player havent played since logos release what are some thibgs i gotta know
send ign
in my username (i can also send in dms
Check pins for the new upcoming banners. Use wiki to learn what they do. Besides that play the game.
thanks
i imagine someone at hg realized skyrangers dont have a way to block aerial enemies that path over ranged tiles 
that makes a lot of sense 
ok ty
I feel this is also setup for more aerial hitting threats in the future tbh.
does he know
bracing for impact (the return of invis drones
clueful.png
oh he does know
bibeak liskarm
it great combo?
it's a meme gif, wdyt?
no
No 
for carpal tunnel
the most impressive thing about that gif is liskarm living through allat 
owl s2 stronk
still trying to decide on who to pick on my selection ticket? what makes logos good?
ptilop s2 honeyberry plus skill uh, yeah, my spot is living through that
those mf give nightmare
sn indeed had nice mechanics
lil handy borken
the best caster atm?
that's not a good reason. casters kinda shit. logos being the exception
he is the best caster but that doesnt set a high bar cuz casters are shit in general, if i say he is overall a very good arts dps, one of the best then it is a great thing
ah
i dont know his other option though 🥹
you dont need to!
and he just ask why logos is good
i'm just trying to figure out who to pick on this thing before time runs out
and who are the bachelors in... this thing?
cuz he just decimates everything
but anyways send your options
25 mil dph on s1 
me when i dont know the conditions to fulfill that
it's the paid selection ticket from anniversary(?) patch
He's asking you to show which ops you can choose from
u can press use to see what avail to pick yeh
miweenar 
logos overall
Yep, best picks are either 🐴 or Lo🅱️os
who is horse
Mlynar
mlynar
Him being less attractive solely because Leizi is on the horizon
he might be in shop but logos will take time
Also that
Mylnar, but he also is bound to rerun as shoperator. Eventually. We pray. And Leizi Alter is Soon™
hes not attractive thats true
i was about to nitpick
🥀
twink 
ok executor simp
Enforcer, but that's not the right topic for the channel 
Does Thornstar S1 and S2 benefit from Ulpian's Mod +20% Healing Received? 
💔
is Ulpianus worth pulling?
check pins
nah
do i want to keep pulling on banners? used all the pulls i got from the mail on ulpianus banner/beginner banner and got these guys
just save
ok
save and check pins for newbie selectors and teambuilding
wait i had to set the new module as default all this time and it doesn't automatically enable
set it in operator page
oh my god i had exu2 m3 not being used the whole time 
Is it me or tragodia dps seems kinda lackluster? Why is he ranked equivalent to wisadel or exu2 who does so much more dps
cos he makes enemy not go to blue box
once the operator is in squad it will not show the changes you have made, you have to remove and select them again
u win by killing enemy before they enter blue box
tragodia stops them from going to blue box
it doesnt matter if they have 3 million hp or what wheras wisadel and exu cries when enemy has 3 million hp
But does that really justify ranking him as high as the other two who are dps monsters
proof?
yes
if i had an op that makes enemies never go to blue box they would be op
wisadel literally struggles against beefier enemies lol
dps monster when they cant dps!
play tn-4 ultimate
point exu or wis against the first boss
see if they kill it
trag just kills the boss (eventually) but he never reaches blue box
ok but what if theres time limit
theres no time limit
big sad lock
fibs first L 😔
trag is op against bsl too
bro forgot about sentinel. 🥀
me when boss cant attack nor move
sentinel isnt real
who're the upcoming strong limited banners?
idk
hoshi2
Hoshi2 / Haruka
hoshialt
how many months till those two come out
sash2 is niche stuffs
Anniversary banner, at some point in January
around anniversary, so january
dare i say, skip angle
wait for cc5 before u make ur pull decision
what nasti skills do?
wht if he is used on cc6 instead
you said the same before ccb4 when you were shilling pepe and vina, you do this often?
buy six stars selector
whats cc5
guro hax with limited selector
nice they so fast
nope vina is trash and guards only use pepe in their clear
damn not much time left
what does nasti s3 do actually

it does the nasty
read skill
pepe high dph good for guards
beside the ranged tile
Scroll up, there's a link
hp & atk buff
ranged tile give atk buff 👍
What's the stacking logic of new items on top of expiration items? It always use the previous expiration date when I stack a new item?
but how are we supposed to put our efforts into helping when you arent giving a little bit effort to read 🙄
If they have the same timer they stack, if not, they don't
should I e2 my lower rarity units first? I was initially planning on prioritizing Tragodia.. but that may be a bad idea for me... And who do I prioritize among them if I should e2 them first?
guys what BP means in the current event?
battle pass?
My emergency sanity booster only get 9 days now, even if they are 12 I believe
Beacon Pathway
You don't always get them at the full timer
e2 trag poop and silver ass
low stars bad
are you talking about monthly card? if so, each sanity pack from any given week (monday-sunday) has the same 14d timer that starts counting down on monday, so the first sanity pack will have a 14d timer, second will have 13d, third 12d, etc.
the timer resets each week ofc
Nerd
Does trago needs s3 m3 too? Did s2 m3
i mean if you think you'll use the skill go for it, its a decent skill and does more dps than his s2 (i guess) but is just a different way to stall, mainly for higher aspd enemies
what i mean is no matter how "m6 worthy" or "m9 worthy" an operator is, if you'll never use those skills then whats the point of masterying them
~~you will not use it 🤫 ~~
Ccb4
IA fell off 
hmm are they doing max risk tho?
is e2 ptilopsis worth
trag is just a good solution max risk or not
global +30% SP regen says yes
ok wait so atleast inside atk range it goes from 0.15/s at e1 to 0.2/s and then 0.3/s global from 0.2/s to 0.33/s for ops inside range?
but again do you really need masteries? on s3
Hii so it's been a while since i played this game, which operators should i look out for and save for?
is 15-9 hard to do
oh this is about masteries? no one commented on s2m3 when we dont know whether or not the guy has mod and lvl 82/88 to make it count
alright great i need to unlock yellow pyramids for mlynar
:joyplush:
*0.35/s inside attack range ☝️ 🤓
she is a good healer you can go for e2 if you are done with everything else
silverash and thorns kinda fine as is no
kinda shite to waste more resource on them if im getting leizi2
i guess all thats left is necrass mod3 when 100 trust and ines s2m3
or am i missing smt that i should do before pti e2 mod3
mod 3? mod 1 is fine
Ehats the fastest way to up account lvl
Burn up
for 
*don't
monthly card
at what part of the game should i start doing IS
You can do it as soon as you unlock it
subjective but you can start pretty early
Borrow ops for a stronger start
👍
How do I get Caper's summer skin?
Wiki says its in RA, but I can't find it
basically. you dont. 4 year wait type shi

her e2 is cool anyways
skin is super duper nice tho
ik what you are
hello guys im new, can someone guide me how to reroll in this game(what banner i should pull first and what unit i should prioritize) 🙂
There's a whole guide in the pins
oh wait mb
The jist is guest > roll > delete until you get your desired account
Mlynar, Logos, and Trag are your best targets, but much harder to get, so aim for Ulpianus
so i should pull for the beginner banner first until its out?
pull on ulpianus
oh okay
#salt-mines message
im not helping 🙏🥹
btw do we only get like 8 pulls(4800 orundums) everytime we reroll?
correct
alright ty
get logos from selector
proxeeds to pick fartooth
my friend is telling me he cannot spoonfeed + handhold + training wheels + backseat me through IS, is this true
you need to get better friends!
your friend is either bad or hates you
he says he will consider it if i slide him a twenty i got my solution
@quick jolt will you backseat me 🥹
okay
So Tactitian Vanguards like Beanstalk & Myeuseleye don't cost Deployment Limit to summon their reinforcements?
not DP, like how many ops can be on screen at once
i can sit behind ur back
nope, they dont use deploy limit
??
ur friend is bad or lazy
probably both!
i too do not spoonfeed + handhold + training wheels + backseat new players through IS
nice I dig that
theres hardly good IS players on EN
let alone people who can teach you
be cool and make friends here or the IS central server
cus u r bad? :glueless:
fib pls hand hold me
i taught my friend is by just playing a whole is5 run in front of them on their account. find better friends 

