help

[raven ermine]

And i'm pretty sure i told you the value from selector is heavily skewed toward niche units for hard content
Which, ceobe excels in when she's needed, logos doesn't come even close to her

[humble nova]

is kukkikaze a good source to learn IS

[woeful zodiac]

I already have mylnar for phys dmg so I just skip every phys dmg operator from now on right guys ???

[cold void]

sounds good thanks for the help

[raven ermine]

If you don't want ceobe, there's still suzuran/ng/weedy, but they won't be useful in general content, ceobe is usable there to some extent

[cold void]

just chose ceobe thanks for the help

[turbid ocean]

if you wanna really get good at it, alot of reading
hardly any real good videos on how to get started, but this website is a deep dive:
https://is-central.github.io

[woeful zodiac]

good ending

[humble nova]

ty

[median crypt]

does that have is6 info?

[cold void]

someone mentioned the name of somebody that I could watch for a better understanding of the game? I cant find the message

[median crypt]

just dont watch tectone

[cold void]

is there a content creator that posts helpful information for new players?

[violet siren]

ethan pot5 worth?

[median crypt]

kukki is someone I used to watch

[magic venture]

Can I recommend Supah?

[crisp dawn]

[silver smelt]

Can you like not give me ptsd

atleast censor the name

[cold void]

kukki or supah? thank you I will check them out

[woeful zodiac]

dont look at supah pls

[raven ermine]

The supah bit was a joke, don't

[crisp dawn]

Kyo/Ecko/Arflanyr are mostly stage walkthroughs, DragonGJY have really good analyses for newer ops but not general game knowledge

[cold void]

oh okay, just kukki then thanks

[silver smelt]

I watch DragonGJY for operator kit rundowns

[ancient lintel]

can I recommend storn

[copper oracle]

is kukki even a good player?

[raven ermine]

I'm sure he's good enough to give advice to newbies

[copper oracle]

chat is this real

[median crypt]

I agree with mayu

[crisp dawn]

Who is kukki

[copper oracle]

kukkikaze

[silver smelt]

in the upcoming event do we know what mats are farmable

[fiery canopy]

the one who brought upon the blue poison ppl

[shadow bay]

visit #bot-spam and do cnfarm for future mats to farm

and yeh it also shows the one in act or die

[fathom nest]

We have 6 months of foresight

Of course we do

[silver smelt]

ah ok it only differs for banner dates?

[fathom nest]

Yes

Stages don't change

[silver smelt]

so i should end the event with around like 200 of polyester and alloy?

[fathom nest]

[median crypt]

preferably

[copper oracle]

possibly

[shadow bay]

id stock alloy more... poly atleast have t2 source

[undone portal]

however many is enough to last you to the next event

[silver smelt]

mk, and do we have any sources for Cyclicene anytime soon like i would like to raise Tragodia atleast within this month

[median crypt]

u have green cert shop for it too

[copper oracle]

is cyclicene the piss jars

[ancient lintel]

the piss jar?

[silver smelt]

Not the piss jar, the other one to make Piss prism

[shadow bay]

the one blue adn white box thingy

[undone portal]

cyclicene is the purple/white bismuth looking stuff. next source is pepe event rerun

[marble solar]

u fell off proceed to wiki reading 📖

[silver smelt]

but yeah i also need piss jars i used parashop for that

[copper oracle]

🪞

[silver smelt]

is mat farming in general always like this? farm during event then get shafted for a year till it reruns or

[undone portal]

pretty much. use greencerts if you find yourself lacking

[raven ermine]

Yes
Altho you end up with enough after a bit

[shadow bay]

good thing we have 30 pots from monthly card to stock up alloy 🥹

[raven ermine]

And events are mostly just a way to restock when you're there

[undone portal]

yes, you usually end up with a large enough stockpile of mats you dont need where you end having more than enough sanity to farm what you do

[silver smelt]

0 green certs and 8 piss prisms to craft 🥹

[undone portal]

can you wait 2months 🥹

[silver smelt]

tragodia modless for 2 months

[cold void]

Im thinking I replace hibiscus with ceobe in my lineup, thoughts?

[undone portal]

tragodia works fine tbh, hes more for stall than for the elemental dmg

[raven ermine]

Recruitment should be enough to get to phase 2 + pulls monthly
Pulling on banners will be enough to start stacking up green certs

[severe crypt]

Why is liskarm and harmonie e2

[quaint matrix]

how do i unlock this

[marble solar]

u can farm 15-9 if u really need the nodules for piss jar mat

[undone portal]

pretty easy swap, yea, though i would probably suggest dropping whisperain instead

[cold void]

I dont have any high rarity defenders so I had to upgrade liskarm

[shadow bay]

eg-6 is a secret stage... i think #bot-spam have it under... /secretending or something

[cold void]

heard, will take your advice thanks

[silver smelt]

I did parashop piss jars so im good for that atleast for now any other source of piss jar reasonably soon?

[maiden thunder]

use reedic s2/3 and ptil s2

[shadow bay]

yeh the help peeps would correct me for the command

[marble solar]

ato has piss jar mat farming

[silver smelt]

~4mo?

[raven ermine]

Ato
That's it
Players with enough green certs are just buying it from cert shop monthly too

[quaint matrix]

ah so its not from doing hidden front???

[severe crypt]

No use crying over spilled milk ig, just be more weary of who you e2 next time

[maiden thunder]

beat 14-18 with amiya in squad(e2)

[undone portal]

clear 14-18 while keeping wis'adel alive
clear 14-21 with e2 amiya in your squad

[shadow bay]

#bot-spam message

[quaint matrix]

do i need to deploy her?

[maiden thunder]

its just amiya in 14-18 wis can die

[cold void]

where can I find information on what I should e2?

[severe crypt]

Here actually, we woulda told you not to e2 liskarm and harmonie if you asked us 🥹

[cold void]

😂 I joined the discord afterwards

[undone portal]

theyre e2 now though, so use them until you have stronger alternatives

[severe crypt]

Ah, well now you know

[cold void]

can I ask whats wrong with harmonie? the attack stacking has nuked all the bosses ive fought so far

[undone portal]

bosses are gonna get too tanky for her to nuke very soon, and then her dps post nuke is uh. bad

[abstract mauve]

she's just a bit clunky. damage doesnt stack compared to better units

[maiden thunder]

because she is over leveled and you are fighting piss trash boss

[undone portal]

very liable to waste her nuke on trash since her s2 doesnt filter as well as it needs to

[cold void]

thats fair, Ill look for an alternative soon then thanks for the help

[cold void]

I have noticed that, very true

[maiden thunder]

just dont invest anymore into the mentioned 5*+myrtle and dont invest at all into amiya,wind,rain(amiya maybe way way way later)

[cold void]

I didnt bother investing in amiya atleast haha, I know that the free units games like this give are bad

[silver smelt]

errrm

[undone portal]

amiya becomes much more usable with story progression, but while shes stuck as a caster shes terribad

[silver smelt]

well youll need e2 amiya anyway for story progression later on

[ancient lintel]

he doesnt know about the existence of tequila

[abstract mauve]

there's like 6 stages and you can skip them and continue progressing the main story normally

[severe crypt]

LATER later on, you can skip those levels anyway

[silver smelt]

yeah true

[cold void]

thank goodness 🙏 I dont have the material freedom for that right now lol

[undone portal]

building amiya is an angle you should only consider once youre an integrated strategies nerd like me and like having medicmiya as a draft option

[ancient lintel]

he doesnt know about the existence of a free unit that's regarded as 1 of the best base workers in the game while also being solid for combat

[undone portal]

^ tequila is one of a handful of welfare units that are actually quite solid

[ancient lintel]

*he doesnt know about the existence of a rabbit that performs just as well as exusiai but for 2/3 of the price *

[undone portal]

you can also get the best workshop skill you will have for likely quite a while

[cold void]

Are unit banners on a set rotation? where can I find info on when a specific banner will be available again?

[odd sky]

rotating banner availability is speculation which this channel does not allow

[cold void]

okay so its not a scheduled thing, noted

[undone portal]

no clear set rotation, its entirely up to yostar
unit debut banners can be roughly predicted based on cn server release order

[odd sky]

generally an operator get put into gold cert shoppable 2 years after debut

[cosmic zealot]

Guys does Texalt have new skin in cn?

Awww

[odd sky]

lappalter yea

[cosmic zealot]

I skipped unemployed.....

[quaint valve]

Will we have event with unlimited rock to farm, based on CN?

[quaint matrix]

did those two, still not unlock. do i need to do it without support?

[cosmic zealot]

Cant you just farm 1-7?

[maiden thunder]

was amiya used in 14-18? e2? non support?

[undone portal]

not sure if support affects things, try doing it without just to be safe
it does have to be your own e2 amiya

[quaint matrix]

ye used my own

[slender citrus]

Is Base Lapland good

[maiden thunder]

as a newbie? serviceable

[undone portal]

shes alright if you need someone to apply silence debuff

[fiery canopy]

just shoot the exploding bugs

[undone portal]

silence shuts down a lot of enemy skills newbies are usually scared of, so quite servicable for earlygame

[sleek finch]

i guess you can say, silence shut them up

[silver smelt]

is this tile not safe? whys the hitbox so wonky

[sleek finch]

its safe

[cold void]

Ive just ran out of sanity and all of my sanity refreshers, Im assuming I shouldn't use originium to refresh more sanity? seems pretty rare

[coarse notch]

op should only be used for pulls or skins

[cold void]

okay thank you

[vivid yew]

Is Ines S2M3 no module a good stopping point? I rarely use her S3

[silver smelt]

Does last deployed have higher "aggresion level" than Block? Because exu s2 stole aspd from ptilo, instead of Gummy/Spot.

[ancient lintel]

exu targets the most recent deployed ye

[slim tusk]

exu just steal from taunt>last deployed
doesn't care about block

[faint marten]

who good ?

[silver smelt]

Does everyone have the same taunt level except those that explicitly state otherwise, like Mlynar?

[ancient lintel]

top + support to gamble for suzuran
i dont remember suzuran having debuff tag or not

[safe wave]

is kichisei bad

[mental gull]

is qiu bai bad?

[cold lion]

anything useful in here?

[slim tusk]

yep
ambusher has explicitly state lower taunt

[maiden thunder]

vanguard senior for ely gamble

[fiery lynx]

She is okay. Has a niche in some situation

[faint marten]

top support best ?

[cold lion]

I do have elysium already tho

[maiden thunder]

just get the ifrit

[maiden thunder]

more reason to do it then, 5 certs+a unit u might use>1 cert+dead unit

[faint marten]

I already have ifrit p3

[prime lichen]

Should I get clicks module

[maiden thunder]

then yes either u get another ifrit pot or get saria here(saria you'll get from anniversary selector anyway)

[faint marten]

I already have saria

[maiden thunder]

sure mod1

[fiery lynx]

Ng and suzu gamba is the option. If you already have them too. Go for yolo then

[maiden thunder]

#help message this but 10 certs

[mental gull]

and SUPAH is not a reliable youtuber hm? he said qiu bai is bad

[faint marten]

I have every operator in the pool.

[frank wing]

if there's nobody here you want just get a pot for the yellow certs

[knotty wave]

deploy your defenders last so she'll steal from them

[formal shadow]

personally i do not trust his takes

[mental gull]

yeah... Same

[cold void]

I was told to watch kukki instead of supah earlier

[faint marten]

got ng p6 👎

[fiery lynx]

Youtuber isnt really a good source either. Unless they are talking about number or doing some high diff run.
But I still take them with a grain of salt.

[shadow bay]

at the end of the day u need to sieve what info u take in yt

and with that... i would entertain u why AH is the best team synergy in game

[mental gull]

AH?

[formal shadow]

abyssal hunters

[mental gull]

I heard that gladiia gives ulpianus the best buff?

[wind storm]

Best health buff
Monster gives best aspd buff

[formal shadow]

compared to other Abyssal Hunters? yes

[copper oracle]

out of everything he has said, and u chose a real fact?

youtuber only good if they hold records for clears 🤫

[slim tusk]

modded sa>qb ril

[abstract mauve]

bad is a bit harsh 🥹
maybe just mid i think

[copper oracle]

mid n bad same thing to me\

[slim tusk]

elitism smh

[cold void]

how long does it take for sanity to fully regen when empty?

[red oasis]

he has way worse takes this is literally factual

[copper oracle]

idk man i selectored qb and did m6 just to never use her

[mental gull]

ok

[formal shadow]

cap depends on your level
it's 1 sanity per 6'

[copper oracle]

its cos shes so bad bruh 🚬

[quaint matrix]

i dont get it anymore, i did it with my own caster amiya e2 on both 14-18 and 14-21 with no support, and yet eg-6 is still not unlock

[abstract mauve]

she just has bad cycle smh

[mental gull]

how about the gummy over saria though?

[quaint matrix]

do i need to not do it on adverse difficulty what else i need to do holy

[abstract mauve]

it's a meme. surely he doesnt seriously believe this :clueless:

[cold void]

okay, so roughly 16 hours until I can play the game again

[copper oracle]

this one is false for sure

[mental gull]

mayhaps..

[formal shadow]

weird. try to uhh do both on standard maybe that'll do the trick

[vivid yew]

Is Ascalon much better than Mizuki outside IS?

[red oasis]

ur ass picks saria over gummy in is5?

[copper oracle]

i pick neither in is5 🗣️

[quaint matrix]

[copper oracle]

both do nothing in relicless 🥱

[shadow bay]

if u have read the link i send u, apparently u also want to clr 14-23

iirc thats where eg-6 would appear

but ig if u complain not seeing 14-23 that means u have completed it already

[fiery lynx]

14-23 is a cutscene stage.

[mental gull]

best guard operator?

[abstract mauve]

between ulpianus mlynar and leizi2 depending on situation

[formal shadow]

melantha

[fiery lynx]

With 0 context. Luo Xiaohei

[odd sky]

cutter alter

[slim tusk]

leizi>=mlynar>ulpi fr

[mental gull]

hmmm.. general content + high hp enemies

[abstract mauve]

general content doesnt have high hp enemies

[thorny edge]

[fiery canopy]

the 500k hp boss in chap 14

[formal shadow]

100k hp 0def 0res. surely that counts as high hp

[abstract mauve]

krooster kills that in 1 skill 🥹

[odd sky]

75k hp capybara on BB

[silver smelt]

where can i see upcoming gold cert ops

[fiery canopy]

🔮

[fierce needle]

u cant, cus thats speculation

[silver smelt]

ight

[safe tundra]

i know that the next gold cert operators are 5* and 6*

[maiden thunder]

u forgot saltfins (100k HP)

[main slate]

i watched a video on trag and im curious is it truly worth to build him past e2l60?

[fiery canopy]

theres a breakpoint for nervous burst on bosses from what ive heard

[cloud void]

hmm should i pull for tragodia or save for hoshi alter and haruka?

[fiery canopy]

but id just keep him lvl 60, mod3

[past cloak]

Pull for tragodia

[formal shadow]

all in on the catboy

if i say this and there's a standard banner with stainless on i'll be damned

[fallen depot]

Do we have breeze skin in CN yet?

[lime steeple]

same, hope i could get him, cuz i thought he was a limited and we will get 10 free rolls and 1 every day

[safe tundra]

[copper oracle]

mlynar

[formal quartz]

How can I easily defeat the sarkaz casters? They're so annoying tbh, I think I will have a hard time grinding story mode because of them

[fierce needle]

she's dead, found on the ditch for being skinless after years in game

[maiden thunder]

The binders? just bait with fast redeploys

[safe tundra]

ch4 sarkaz caster?

[fallen depot]

The one that binds you? Red s2 or any stun/sleep source can counter their bind. Else just bait with gravel

[woeful zodiac]

which one. the sleeping one or the bind one or the dp one

[formal quartz]

Yeah

[safe tundra]

as referred above, gravel, yato or similar fast redeploys

[woeful zodiac]

ye as said, just bait them once with redeploy

[formal quartz]

Ohh okay thanks I'll try that

[safe tundra]

optionally you can tank the bind with some defender but it slows down the run

[fallen depot]

Kafka s1 is prob the cheapest option

[ancient lintel]

OG yato

[odd sky]

there's this for boss
s2 1 summon use
pot1
mod2 ele breakpoint for boss is lvl88
mod3 is lvl82
you can go here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mSZ5Kfs1Lkavwq_IdJi_3Kl5kFIQepwf9ytdMqWTfXo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[safe tundra]

jaye if youre not DP tight

[odd sky]

@main slate

[fallen depot]

I have 30 pulls. Still go for trag? Would i have enough pulls for ave muji?

[fierce needle]

I assume this is because of module lv 1, correct?
the burst in 1 skill 1 auto in elites

[safe tundra]

thoughts and prayers. trust

[odd sky]

for you skip trag

[woeful zodiac]

meta wise, always trag. if u dont wanna miss collab then yeah skip trag

[odd sky]

you can read @fierce needle

[fierce needle]

idk what after build means

[fiery canopy]

[fierce needle]

my reading comprehension

[odd sky]

🥀

[red oasis]

yeah tragodia has breakpoints but using him in general content means you won the game regardless of said breakpoints

[fierce needle]

i didnt notice that lil window in the corner sorry

[cloud void]

pluh i just realized ulpi's banner is sandwiched between trag and leizi ;-;

[odd sky]

[fiery canopy]

shrimply offrate him pulling trag

[safe tundra]

that wont work because shrimp is smaller than whel

[fiery canopy]

femn u removed ur zuole

[fallen depot]

Offrate all 3 in hoshi banner

[silver smelt]

Which Sui units are good (besides Yu/Shu)

[fiery canopy]

yu shu

surely the unreleased ones will be good

[fallen depot]

shu > yu > ling > chong > nian > dusk

[safe tundra]

nian is still the toughest on skill DEF brick

[silver smelt]

surely , say i drop x amount on cny banner enough to spark, so i'd have at the very least new one + shu, who would i hope for offrate besides yu for 4th sui unit?

Ling/Nian?

[safe tundra]

l*ng is notoriously mid nowadays

[fallen depot]

Ling summon god, nian is a brick

[fiery canopy]

[silver smelt]

[odd sky]

ye someone asked for ascalon
zuo le again?

[lavish monolith]

who is gonna be the next 200 on cny?

[fallen depot]

Nian dusk ling chong shu yu in that order

[fiery canopy]

its fine ig

trag in 2 days so

[silver smelt]

..what order is this

[odd sky]

release

[silver smelt]

Bro what

[fallen depot]

Release order. Someone asking who is the next 200 spark in cny banner. Idk who is the current 200 spark and too lazy to check so i just list it for them

[silver smelt]

ah

[stark gulch]

iirc nian got 200 spark on yu banner so next cny will have dusk 200 spark

[sleek relic]

Phantom alter or leizi alt

[coarse notch]

phantom

[stark gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588958885150721/1437576886686453810/pn0gGXM.png?ex=6913bf4e&is=69126dce&hm=f5f831315a606a570debdbb8b6ac69102de6c2b70b0b491ad3d52b6c43162df1& this image is rlly good makes it easy to remember which ops get 200 spark

[fallen depot]

Plantom. Leizi is just a mlynar sidegrade

[lavish monolith]

Thats neb's creation

[sleek relic]

Does leizi used in cc?

[languid swallow]

I used her once

[sleek relic]

Like high risk cc

[red oasis]

ofc

[coarse notch]

vital to final max risk ccb4 comp, very strong in is6

[sleek relic]

Ok imma get leizi instead. It seems i dont need phantom that much

[coarse notch]

...phantom is also used in the max risk ccb4 comp

[abstract mauve]

[coarse notch]

tragodia is in another universe compared to leizialt tbh

[sleek relic]

I can just borrow. Leizi seems more fun. Phantom is just another nuke

[abstract mauve]

bro????????

[coarse notch]

er, other way around

[woeful zodiac]

is he schizo

[sleek relic]

Wait why

[red oasis]

Green name debuff

[severe crypt]

So the dps “is more fun” but the cool lure bot “is another nuke”

[stark gulch]

yea sounds like you got it the wrong way around leizi is the nuke

[hollow sparrow]

phantom is a staller

[proven kelp]

So true
Just borrow Trag

[coarse notch]

phantom is a crowd control staller, leizialt is a nuker/tremble bot

[severe crypt]

Maafalu you are not helping

[sleek relic]

Oh i see, leizi alt takeoff invis seems useful though

[proven kelp]

Wdym sir
Im helping save pulls

[coarse notch]

well, phantom also happens to break the game in half

[fiery canopy]

trag is just another nuke

[coarse notch]

fun is subjective but following the purpose of this channel, it would be a big mistake metawise to skip trag for leizi

[severe crypt]

Does Leizi actually gain invis off skill?

[languid swallow]

no she just floats

[coarse notch]

take off is close to invis but not quite

[abstract mauve]

she's just a shy little goober that decides to distance herself a little

[sleek relic]

I dont seem to lose much by not pulling him is what im saying. Got enough good roster already so missing 1 op either leizi or phantal is fine. But i need to choose one

[severe crypt]

Yeah i thought so, what’s the diff between her and mlynar offksill other than the rando lightning bolts

[red oasis]

don't choose
pick both

[coarse notch]

and if you have to choose one, we're all saying its an easy win for trag

[proven kelp]

I mean she basically has
Since she can't be hit by anything other than another Air

[sleek relic]

My pull cant. I need to pull 120 on the collab too. Worst case scenario

[coarse notch]

if your mind is already made then no point in wasting our time, trag is the better option no contest

[shadow bay]

i was told i would suck if i skip trag

[woeful zodiac]

you lose more on skipping phantom than skipping leizi, thats all im saying.

[sleek relic]

Ok then ty lov u all

[severe crypt]

You suck regardless 🥹

[coarse notch]

trag can't make up for hands diff

[proven kelp]

I mean you really aren't
You're already an old player no? You should already be able to clear the game regardless of owning him or not, and in contents that want him, you can also simply borrow him

[red oasis]

who says you can't
just pull leizi sakiko trag in 3 pulls

[coarse notch]

skillfully only pull 6 stars

[severe crypt]

Ok but what if offrate fartooth

[proven kelp]

You can't get pot6 Sakiko with only 3 pulls, realmad

[woeful zodiac]

I thought fartooth is always on rate

[safe tundra]

wish granted you will hit your 6* droprate on every 80th pulls

[red oasis]

proof?
thats right
no proof

[coarse notch]

so when is fartooth getting banished to kernel

[proven kelp]

Wtfart

[copper oracle]

no she gets targeted but can't get damaged unless air enemy

[crisp dawn]

gets cursed with her in standard anyway

[safe tundra]

what

[coarse notch]

is6 seals moment

[severe crypt]

So what about ground ranged enemies like crossbowmen

[safe tundra]

youre telling me ranged but grounded enemies cant aim takeoff operators?

[red oasis]

how do you not know this

[coarse notch]

correct, ground ranged enemies cannot target takeoff ops

"must have been the wind"

[woeful zodiac]

bluds has no neck to look up so they cant shoot takeoff or somethin idk

[safe tundra]

erm i didnt build contrail

[copper oracle]

?? why tf does samivilin target leizi then

[nimble zenith]

smh

[lavish monolith]

Is there any exact time of the year for the kernel pool to get some changes?

[coarse notch]

mountain doesnt need to look up to see her

[copper oracle]

🤯

[formal shadow]

damn I didn't know mountain was so tall

[sleek relic]

Oh wait i just realized. Does leizi alt can block air indefinitely causing rosmon to be attack it as long as the skill3 is active?

[turbid ocean]

Liberator guard

[coarse notch]

no, liberator trait sets block to 0

[severe crypt]

Block is 0 offskill

[copper oracle]

no cos liberator trait is 0 block offskill

[sleek relic]

Ah, such a bummer

[silver smelt]

who should i pull after trag

[severe crypt]

green name debuff

[coarse notch]

depends on how many pulls you have left but ideally leizialt

[copper oracle]

pull p6 tragussy so i can borrow from u

[chrome prawn]

Which banner I should gamble on as a beginner

[coarse notch]

are you rerolling or no

[chrome prawn]

No

[copper oracle]

EN so poor bruh i havent found anyone pulling for p6

[silver smelt]

what about Hoshi2/Haruka over Leizi2?

[copper oracle]

hoshi > leizi > haruka

[coarse notch]

personally i think skipping leizialt for them is gigacopium but others here may have different opinions

[silver smelt]

EN doesnt like men enough to p6

[copper oracle]

where are the p6 monstas then i cant find any either

[turbid ocean]

I know someone if you need the P6 Tragodia

[coarse notch]

pull singles on beginner banner until you get your guaranteed 6 star, then save for the banner in 3 days

[silver smelt]

does his pots even do anything? if P3 does somehting i might pull for it

[safe tundra]

did you consider that since they cant read, EN accidentally skip banners

[coarse notch]

wheres my p6 yato

[nimble zenith]

i do but i am unfortunately constrained by monetary factors

[proven kelp]

Pot6 makes him cheaper to deploy

[chrome prawn]

Ohh okay

[copper oracle]

p5 is -4 aspd to enemy
good for ice cold image 3 ops

[silver smelt]

amazing.

[red oasis]

Pot 5 good for ccb4

[coarse notch]

shilling the hot men in sami video huh

[nimble zenith]

is tradogia mod3 btw

[chrome tiger]

ice cold goobers will say yes

[nimble zenith]

what about non ici

[turbid ocean]

Mod2 is fine
But if you wanna min max breakpoints he wants like what lvl 81 + Mod3

[copper oracle]

i need to shill my clear ‼️

[fiery canopy]

82 mod3 ye

[nimble zenith]

ok i will do lvl 90 then

[copper oracle]

jennie so rich donate lmd pls

[nimble zenith]

how is that rich
you might just be poor

[mental gull]

yo dude.. why'd you suggest that I e2 qiu bai btw?

[copper oracle]

true im just poor 🥀

[nimble zenith]

the poor must die 🪒

[proven kelp]

So true 🍋

[red oasis]

i agree with jennie

[copper oracle]

[shadow bay]

[silver smelt]

Leizi2 is that good? Can't i pick up Mlynar later on to fill similar niche or something

[odd sky]

i guess i'm dead

[turbid ocean]

because shes a decent raise...

[lavish monolith]

you got nothing, bro. qb is the best option for you to raise

[copper oracle]

shes a 2nd mlynar why wouldnt u want a 2nd mlynar

[nimble zenith]

yes you can but also you can just have two mlynars

[tender fjord]

Vulcan or indra ?

[proven kelp]

Doesn't matter
Just pick whoever
You will get both anyway later

[copper oracle]

its like if u can have 2 exus or 2 wisadels why wouldnt u want to get 2 of them

[coarse notch]

wtf paralysis disables sami's icicles?

[proven kelp]

That's considered cheating

[copper oracle]

that is a basic attack yes

tragussy and gnosussy is made to destroy this map :icant:

[coarse notch]

gigantic mountain can't move 🥀

[chrome tiger]

me when immovable object doesnt move

[regal phoenix]

In the whole arknight roster, who would benefit the most from +50 atk spd

[mental gull]

I see.. Since my krooster is not exactly the strongest eh?

[chrome tiger]

Mlynar leizi

[copper oracle]

monster

[turbid ocean]

Well I don't know what the context was but I presume you're a newbie?

[fiery canopy]

wbout hoshialt ?

[mental gull]

uhh... check my bio

[silver smelt]

what if i have like a severe deficiency of defenders and medics

[turbid ocean]

I meant when I recommended that

[copper oracle]

u can clear without defenders or medics if ur dps is good enough

[chrome tiger]

i dont really remember what she does but she should be good too

[turbid ocean]

The date I told you to build Qiubai was a little over a month ago
You literally just had Qiubai and Surtr lol

[fiery canopy]

something something 200k total dmg

[woeful zodiac]

age old answer of 'kill before they kill u'

[fiery canopy]

the humble vector 12 no buff

[mental gull]

yeah.. I e2d surtr and modded logos to stage 3

[copper oracle]

2 op cleared wisadel ray

[turbid ocean]

Looking at your current roster, given its up to date,
Qiubai is still the best next E2

[copper oracle]

:realmad: edited

[turbid ocean]

No one else comes close, don't continue Chen

[fiery canopy]

[mental gull]

Oh don't worry, I dropped her off a long time ago

[turbid ocean]

Good

[chrome tiger]

Overclock equipment being giga cracked as per usual

[mental gull]

How bout tequila though? some people told me to replace someone in my squad with him

[copper oracle]

no shit the +100% atk aspd hp buff is op

[turbid ocean]

Well did you use 5* E2?

Oh Amiya

[chrome tiger]

waiter waiter quadruple my dps please

[turbid ocean]

Tequila is still raised because he has mileage via base.
However, not priority over Qiubai

[copper oracle]

teq is so bad bruh (when compared to 6 stars)

[turbid ocean]

Fib stop confusing the newbies

Everything is relative

They barely have worthwhile 6*

[copper oracle]

thats why i added the parenthesis at the end

[turbid ocean]

Everything is a resource cost comparison

[red oasis]

fib just mad tequila isnt enforcer

[copper oracle]

????

[turbid ocean]

I found where the Qiubai "is bad" started from

Yeah this channel will shit on anything that isn't used in the top 1% of content

Doesn't mean its not one of your best operators

[copper oracle]

its true 😇

[white mesa]

#help
Hello, I am a returning player... I've played this game back in 2021 - 2022, it's been like 3 years since I last played this game.. Today, I've decide to return but I am lost and already forgot nearly everything especially team building.. I've search on the internet but to no avail and still not manage to understand nor remember how to form a team... So, I would like to ask you guys, who should I put on the team, BUT, I'd prefer the team consist of them 3 (Mudrock, Surtr, W)

Here's my operators list : https://imgur.com/a/OxwhvqV

Thanks In Advance

[copper oracle]

euthy agrees too 😇

[turbid ocean]

Consider making a https://krooster.com account

[turbid ocean]

No i think your metrics suck lol

Misleading for the average player

[white mesa]

what is it for?

[turbid ocean]

Sharing your operators

[fiery canopy]

import ur whole roster

[turbid ocean]

Without screenshotting 17 times

[white mesa]

ahh alright let me check

[turbid ocean]

Also allows you to plan upcoming materials and what not

[copper oracle]

nuh uh i selectored qb m6 her then never used her cos this channel told me to :realmad:

[turbid ocean]

You're n*che player

Silence

[copper oracle]

literally 1984

[turbid ocean]

Yes

[regal phoenix]

So if I aak +50 atk spd, Angelina module +13, stainless module x2 device +12, thornalt +5, saileach +15, whislash s1 +24, m3ster s2 +61, I can achieve 180atk spd on mlynar n destroy everything ?

[arctic hawk]

Singular tear aint gonna cut it

[copper oracle]

stainless aspd from device doesnt stack L bozo

[slim tusk]

where wanqing

[copper oracle]

wher shu 37 aspd

[slim tusk]

why are we using goober like thonrsalt

[odd sky]

you have mon3tr potted?

[copper oracle]

thornsalt is 10 aspd no?

[turbid ocean]

Shu is 37?

Could've sworn it was 25

[copper oracle]

better than stainlussy bro 🚬

[red oasis]

no you'll get destroyed because setting this up is schizo and bad

[regal phoenix]

But u will need x3 same op for shu on field right

[copper oracle]

talent is 12 and s3 is 25

[turbid ocean]

[copper oracle]

its 37 ‼️

[white mesa]

hey sorry to ask, is that "Krooster" safe?

[red oasis]

yes it is

[turbid ocean]

Uh yes, your account login data is stored locally in your browser

[white mesa]

alright thanks

[arctic hawk]

Its not safe when I go on your computer and steal your cookies 👍

[turbid ocean]

hush

[chrome tiger]

literally 专制主义

[white mesa]

https://krooster.com/u/kiraly_hel

[vivid yew]

Is Ascalon much better than Mizuki outside IS?

[odd sky]

base worker

[turbid ocean]

Ascalon is great, Mizuki is kind of bad

[turbid ocean]

Hm damn this is very old huh lets see

[copper oracle]

yes

[white mesa]

yeah, it's been like 3 years since

[turbid ocean]

Fib calculate how long it will take to reroll for P6 Kafka

[copper oracle]

with how many rolls

[turbid ocean]

Newbies start with like 6

[turbid ocean]

Okay errr yeah this games powercreep isn't crazy, and your units are still workable, but you may feel some pressure
your main goal right now should be getting:
SilverAsh modx3, Surtr modx2

[copper oracle]

3.5e-8 %

[turbid ocean]

[vivid yew]

Is Mod X the better option for Gladiia?

[turbid ocean]

to play AH or Ulpi sure
thought I would've recommend even bringing Gladiia unless you love to AFK

[copper oracle]

it depends™

[white mesa]

noted, thanks .. and who should I put on my team?

[turbid ocean]

Ngl my understanding of how these old ops are against each other is a little low

Silverash, Thorns, Angelina, Mountain definitely get a spot
Maybe also Mostima, Phantom,
Add Elysium + Siege + Ptilopsis

[vivid yew]

I'm planning to pull Ulpian if i get Tragodia in less than 100 pulls

[turbid ocean]

Would say just get Ulpi and build him first before considering building Gladiia

[opaque turret]

should I build Saga

[turbid ocean]

Its not cheap to build her

[vivid yew]

... she is E2

[turbid ocean]

Dang 😔

Even then mod blocks are expensive wouldn't throw around

If you feel like you are a casual player then sure go for it, ModX3 is nice to have for Ulpi

[vivid yew]

I have 90 of those

[turbid ocean]

But only bother after you get Ulpi

Mod blocks are eaten very fast if you build a lot of ops properly

[copper oracle]

wtf phantom ril?

[turbid ocean]

Don't get too excited

Oh wait they need a second medic
Ditch phantom

[copper oracle]

no im asking why r u recoing phantom outsude IS

[turbid ocean]

Because hes E2 and built

See their account

[copper oracle]

okayge

[turbid ocean]

Actually Im genuinely curious what you would rec

[copper oracle]

i can check 🚬

[odd sky]

base worker 😔

[turbid ocean]

Oh I overlooked Schwarz completely

[white mesa]

please do, any recommendation would be much appreciated

[turbid ocean]

Also btw, check up on your base

[copper oracle]

assuming everyone is built
thorns mudcork surtr SA schwatz mosti shamare (pick 2 from silence ptlopsis nearl) elysium
i think unironically aak s1m3 mod3 is one of ur better units but its definitely not worth investing into that 🚬

[fallen depot]

windflit s2m3 yes?

[turbid ocean]

Aak is one of the things I was thinking about lol but masteries...

I don't know if they want to mastery any more of their ops for general use

[copper oracle]

yes he needs mod3 to be worth using as a "dps"

[turbid ocean]

I would love to shill Angelina because IS usage too

[copper oracle]

ange is so bad outside IS

[turbid ocean]

Is Rosmontis actually terrible in their case?

I thought it would be copable

[copper oracle]

no, she has 0 dph

[chrome tiger]

ange is like rosmontis

[turbid ocean]

🥀

[red oasis]

ros is piss garbage for gen content

[copper oracle]

unless u find some hp bloat 0 def enemy then go ahead and use rosmo 🚬

[turbid ocean]

Euthy hi look at their account and build a team

Shamare is a good consideration ya i like that

[copper oracle]

i think blemi is good too cos they dont have anyone else better

[lavish monolith]

If anything. Schwartz s2 and SA s3 could be his main phy dps,.. for now

[copper oracle]

u run shamrare for sure 👍 shes op

[fallen depot]

rosmontis have cost issue, without IS context its hard to apply her

unironially mizuki s1 would be a good raise

[copper oracle]

i would unironically slot weedy too but idk if they can use weedy

[turbid ocean]

🥹

Infinite damage

[copper oracle]

weedy is op 🚬 (terms and conditions apply)

[turbid ocean]

[white mesa]

how to use em?

[turbid ocean]

Shes a push stroker

[formal shadow]

skill activates and she pushes

[turbid ocean]

shes good if you can uh push things into hole

[copper oracle]

for stall/shift cancel/reroute

[fallen depot]

she pushes. the farther enemy gets pushed the more damage she deals. her pushing projectile is a bit weird so be careful with it

[red oasis]

checked
i agree with fibs team suggestion

[white mesa]

ahh I think I get the idea, still need to learn to apply it tho

[copper oracle]

omg euthy fianlly agreeing with me 😇

[turbid ocean]

Ideally you don't wanna stall but your roster might not have a choice

i do too

[chrome tiger]

hi returnee here! can anyone give me advice in building my account? https://krooster.com/u/notsomeoneyouknow

[turbid ocean]

Crazy how that works

[fallen depot]

they have enough dps for most general stages. they can borrow their way through S stages

[severe crypt]

You ain’t slick kertaxxxx

[copper oracle]

i think they lack dps to comfortably clear EX8 🚬

[red oasis]

yeah they need to borrow
then its fine

[copper oracle]

yep borrow exu or W :clueless:

[fallen depot]

comfortably sure, possible yes

[cursive maple]

mewnaar mod level 3

[turbid ocean]

mod3 greyy if you love your IS5

😋

[pallid basin]

As a beginner lvl 39, what should i mainly prioritize to do?, i find myself farming for stuffs way too early like trying to max out my ops and base, wasting sanity on materials that i dont need as of right now, etc

[copper oracle]

build puzzle for RA danger mode 😇

[turbid ocean]

S3M3 castermiya for Theresis

S2M3 + Mod3 medicmiya for heal chests

[cursive maple]

build silverash in anticipation of gnosis mod

[copper oracle]

silverash fucking sucks as gnosis enabler bruh

[fallen depot]

maxing out base is great. then you just progress through story stages while e2 your main dps in tandem. base would be your main resource farm, and for materials you go farm them in older stages. we have farm stage list in #bot-spam /material command. when event happens you focus everything on event and its farm stages

[turbid ocean]

??

😭

Steward drafters rise up

Caster ticket no longer useless

[red oasis]

you are so bad

[cursive maple]

so who do you propose?

[copper oracle]

a boss that applies cold to all enemies for 5s every 10s

[cursive maple]

which op

[copper oracle]

no one, he is benched until theres another boss like that 😢

[chrome tiger]

meet potential IS module
“just give me another ice cold image bro”

[vital solstice]

is ~30k lmd per day pretty good for base?

[turbid ocean]

What gnosis / trag skill for ici

[copper oracle]

s2 both

[fallen depot]

if i equip windflit battery to a guard and uses s1, will that guard get 1 sp when s1 procs?

[chrome tiger]

Everyone is on s2 iirc

[ancient lintel]

you'll want 50-60k

[cursive maple]

50k

[copper oracle]

light u didnt watch my clear wtfart :realmad:

[vital solstice]

what about the exp?

[turbid ocean]

I meant trag1

oops

Idk what gnosis/phantom skills look like

[copper oracle]

phantom is s2 too

[lavish monolith]

40k+

[vital solstice]

i kinda messed up in the beginning by upgrading the right side to the max

[fallen depot]

aim 40/40 for now if youre new

[copper oracle]

with 2 s2 stacks he can assasinate the sax dudes with 32% frag from gnosis modA

[fallen depot]

doesnt matter. 252 is still best

[copper oracle]

well "assasinate"
trag cato deals 15k, gnosis deals 20k so he only needs to do 35k :icant:

[vital solstice]

Anything I can do to make it better?

[pallid basin]

So should i save up my sanity pots for events or the story?,

[cursive maple]

proviso, better base slaves

[chrome tiger]

the layout blows but it looks good enough as is, maybe downgrade one trading post for factory if you have proviso

[fallen depot]

event i would say, but you can use as you see fit

[lavish monolith]

Start by building a good tp worker. Use your drone on TP

[white mesa]

So .. like this? .. is this team correct? (don't mind the level, I'll build em all)

[vital solstice]

I do have proviso since someone told me to e2 her

But I’m using proviso sa and jaye for tp

[lavish monolith]

Do you put gnosis on cc?

[chrome tiger]

wait i just realized i can actually do the sa jaye gnocci combo now

[opaque ridge]

is there a way you can count standard banner pity

[vital solstice]

Yes

[opaque ridge]

cmiiw it transfers right?

[dire whale]

what do i buy in red certs

[chrome tiger]

the 6* chance pity yea, the operator rate up no

[ancient lintel]

mod blocks if you havent, ethan and quartz for base

[dire whale]

oh ok

[lavish monolith]

Hmm.. and you only get 30k daily?
Something is missing here.
Are you logged in once a day and let the order getting capped?

[opaque ridge]

is there a way to count it in game? i lost my manual count uuoooug

[chrome tiger]

nope we cope and slander HG until we get it

[opaque ridge]

ty for the answers

[ancient lintel]

shouldn't proviso be in a lv2 TP for better efficiency?

[mental gull]

when having proviso... downgrade a TP for her?

[lavish monolith]

Yes. Mainly because lvl2 to cannot produce 4&5 goldbar order which is very good for proviso

[mental gull]

ok

[chrome tiger]

technically speaking LMD wise both being lv3 is better for cashflow but the factory level is more valuable

[vital solstice]

wait so just downgrade a tp then?

[ancient lintel]

ye I find that out in the hard way, like tp lv2 proviso = min 1k5, max 2k5 so in my brain I think "oh I can just use her in a lv3 TP and make in min 2k max 2k5" and then my gold drop from 64k to 55k

[lavish monolith]

Plus. You can use the excess power for factory instead

[vital solstice]

downgrade a tp and upgrade a fac?

[lavish monolith]

But you need to find a good % as her pair

[coarse portal]

hmmm whos a fun operator to upgrade here?

[mental gull]

it wouldn't be recommended to have all your factories and TPs at lvl 3 when having proviso around?

[vital solstice]

who would be a good pair

[chrome tiger]

i mean if you actually can get that sure

[ancient lintel]

quartz can be a good pick, quartz e1 provides 30 + 2 per different fac formula -> 34% minimum if you have exp and gold in fac

[lone valley]

Mizuki for IS

[chrome tiger]

Lv3 still beats out lv2 by having more raw efficiency

[coarse portal]

upto level 60? or just e2 lvl 1

[mental gull]

All my factories and TPs are lvl 3 in 252 base formula

[chrome tiger]

unless you conjures that mr nothing team

[pallid basin]

You think i should pull for mudrock? Or wait for tragodia banner?

[ancient lintel]

he needs his IS mod

[lone valley]

Uh ofc lvl60
IS mod needed

[manic nacelle]

Mizuki and Gravel are useful, hoghly ranked and mix things up

[lavish monolith]

Depends on your combo.
Wp/ PI could use Mr.Nothing & Eben.
Pozy team could use tuye.
MH could use TRC
Other just use the raw high % individual. Og EXU, Quartz, 🅱️ igil etc

[lone valley]

U never just put an op to e2 lvl1

[ancient lintel]

why would you pull kernel lol

[manic nacelle]

Blaze the Ignition Coil is fantastic if you have other burners like Yu, ifrit etc (Still great even if not)

[ancient lintel]

unless ur whaling sure but 99.99% of the time you shouldn't pull kernel

[pallid basin]

I heard she was good op

[mental gull]

Proviso being paired with 2 +30% productivity ops

[chrome tiger]

just check the #r-i-i-c combo spreadsheet if you want to know the specific maths

[ancient lintel]

Her prime is over
she's still decent though, but there are people better than her now

[safe tundra]

if this statement was back in 2021, sure

[pallid basin]

Ohh, got it

[rose nest]

Vortuosa skill mastery?

[chrome tiger]

proviso is ~1,8x efficiency multiplier in lv2 and ~1,5x in lv3 is what i remember

[ancient lintel]

so sad that mudmud fell off

[signal saffron]

Is it ever worth farming sugar in a event? The main catch was RMA which I already got 200 of so should I switch now or still farm RMA?

[pseudo flume]

Sugar is good

[fiery canopy]

3

[safe tundra]

we received several operators with her as a metric. l*ng is a summoner that “can summon three mudrocks”

[marsh pewter]

How and where to upgrade HR office

[ancient lintel]

so does wisadel

[lethal smelt]

30 trag pulls and a dream

[lavish monolith]

Just leave it on lvl1.
Dont upgrade your office

[marsh pewter]

Why

[spice solar]

midrock is just too expensive while providing too little value
ulpianus banner is coming up if you want a brick wall

[rose nest]

Module Investment?

[chrome tiger]

hint: dont pull ulpianus

[vital solstice]

but according to this, if i have a lvl 3 tp and put proviso with jaye sa ill get 192.59% compared to quartz?

[ancient lintel]

not recommended for a 252 setup, which is the most optimal setup for base
/base in #bot-spam for better info

[lavish monolith]

Mainly because you better allocate that power for factory level and it is not worth it to unlock another rec slot.

You are still getting cuck by recruitment voucher anyway

[chrome tiger]

Office upgrades do nothing, is irreversible and reduces your base potential efficiency

[lime steeple]

oh i alr upgraded it

[lavish monolith]

And you cant downgrade the right side

[marsh pewter]

Dangg

[ancient lintel]

welp, gotta live with it then, adapt and improvise

[chrome tiger]

unless ur a lazy bum who recruit once a week you are almost always gonna encounter recruit voucher starvation

[lime steeple]

can i send ss of my base so yall collectively can mourn it?

[chrome tiger]

nope we’re busy go send it in #r-i-i-c

[spice solar]

not the end of the world
slightly less efficient base but its wtv

[vital solstice]

what do i do with 1000 rec voucher

[marsh pewter]

Can i get 6s char from this

[lime steeple]

but also why cant hg make it so we can rebuild base without letting it be how it is? like i didnt know i couldn’t fix later my base

[charred summit]

why is tragodia considered so good

[ancient lintel]

if you have that expidite thingy sure
just burn through them

[lavish monolith]

If you get top operator tag. Yes

[ancient lintel]

enemy pathing manipulation
-> fun and op

[spice solar]

yeah but you need the top op tag

[marsh pewter]

What s that

[lavish monolith]

Shiny golden tag. You will notice it

[chrome tiger]

rare tag with 2% spawn chance

[fallen depot]

he has a summon that can make enemy walk backwards, and he deals a lot of damage while giving status that shuts down enemies with slow attack speed. he does this in a 3x3 aoe

[robust thistle]

0.2%

[ancient lintel]

notice how the chance of getting a 6* in the headhunt banners are also 2%

[fiery canopy]

erm ackshually 0.21%

[chrome tiger]

Idk i dont do recruits that often

unless a new robot drops

[manic nacelle]

What level for farming LMD? (besides base, pins didn't really have the info)

[pale peak]

Shpuld I get ptilopsis for my selector

[robust thistle]

Is not farming LMD an option

[burnt cedar]

it's rare but yes, also never upgrade the HR Office/Office, it bricks your base production

[manic nacelle]

she's a good AOE medic, maybe only Mon3tr is better

[ancient lintel]

DNE

[manic nacelle]

do you already have an AOE medic?

[burnt cedar]

build your base and it will farm LMD for you more than any stage

[formal shadow]

there is ce6 but it is terribly inefficient and a waste of sanity

[manic nacelle]

well i don't always have all day to play the game

[ancient lintel]

or if you havent touch on integrated stratergies then sarkaz's furnaceside fables welcomes you

[manic nacelle]

is there a better level?

[untold turtle]

u can literally clear 6 stages at once now

[robust thistle]

Wow a person with responsibilities

[formal shadow]

managing base is a single-minute affair once you're done with it. god bless auto team switch button

[untold turtle]

and base u literally just click auto switch if ur not minmaxing

[manic nacelle]

oh i could try more of that yea!

[ancient lintel]

If you havent done IS5 then just speed run it with blueprint + lamp
15 min 1 run

[burnt cedar]

says he doesn't have enough time to build base
wants to play IS

[manic nacelle]

she

[vital solstice]

which IS is the easiest lol

[robust thistle]

The lengths people go not to actually touch base

[manic nacelle]

IS is a new mode to me

[formal shadow]

sarkzas' furnaceside fable

[burnt cedar]

well mb I don't click on people's profiles, either way it's genuinely nowhere near as lengthy as playing IS

[ancient lintel]

IS2
be ware that it's the longest one to grind

[manic nacelle]

I like the base I just need more than 6k lmd

[robust thistle]

Yeah thats because your base is bad

[vital solstice]

why sarkaz?

[burnt cedar]

easiest is IS5, do not listen to the font name man

[coarse notch]

easiest to cheese

[severe crypt]

Is2 is mechanically simple but is5 is the easiest/fastest to grind

[robust thistle]

An average base produces 40k LMD per day

[burnt cedar]

it's not a singular instance, once you build your base it's permanent passive income

[vital solstice]

wait need more info on is5 or should i just go in blind?(not the best doctor)

[coarse notch]

are you planning on actually playing or cheesing it for rewards

[manic nacelle]

I said I know the base exists in my question

[robust thistle]

But if you prefer burning your sanity on LMD instead of materials, CE6 is your best bet

[lavish monolith]

2 mil is equal to 52-53

[ancient lintel]

IS5 is the easiest to grind ye, but IS2 is the easiest in terms of mechanics, but it's also the one that fucks you up a lot of the times due to the fact that you have no way to manipulate nodes or vertically travel

[vital solstice]

maybe cheesing it for rewards lol

[manic nacelle]

yay okay ill see about IS first but good to know

[robust thistle]

Just dont get tired of people asking "base where" everytime you ask here

[manic nacelle]

I could make my base better, some of my ops are picked at random

maybe level some robots or 2stars or something for logistics skills

[robust thistle]

Thats what people are telling you
Fix your base

[severe crypt]

Base ain’t rocket science man

[coarse notch]

i swear base takes literally like all of 20 minutes and you permanently 10x your lmd/exp income

[robust thistle]

We have a ready made bot spam command for base setup

[manic nacelle]

not a man

[burnt cedar]

go to #bot-spam and do /baseskill for easy to upgrade low-tiers

[manic nacelle]

ok ill learn base too

[manic nacelle]

nice! ok

[ancient lintel]

you just need teq + shamare in 1 TP, proviso in the other lol

[coarse notch]

play support squad until you unlock blueprint squad
blueprint squad -> wisadel/gummy/click -> grab lamp of wishes from fated encounter node -> overload mental burden to bring life points to 1, refresh every node (except shop node) into a wish fulfilled and grab the relevant hand/kings and whatever is good after -> unload thoughts before floor 5 boss -> oneshot fremont with wis -> repeat on d10 forever

[burnt cedar]

just TL;DR the ops highlighted in yellow are for factories, blue are outposts

[robust thistle]

Idk about you but calling it "woman" or "female" is more offensive than saying "its not rocket science, man"

[fair tulip]

Woman has man inside the word

[severe crypt]

Thanks kerf 🥹

[burnt cedar]

IMO nobody here is saying anything to deride you based on your gender

[coarse notch]

nobody here gives a flying fuck what your gender is, we're all just morons

[ancient lintel]

recruit another DPS cause if fremont TPs your wis facing a wall then ur in big big trouble XD

[burnt cedar]

we're all deriding you for not building your base for LMD

[coarse notch]

wis shouldnt be tped

[ancient lintel]

how? my wis gets TPed 100% of the time

[coarse notch]

you retreat her before he does it

[burnt cedar]

bro has never learned "leave 1 op undeployed so when fremont tps everyone you can just undeploy her and have that op free her from the coffin after he finishes teleporting everyone"

[ancient lintel]

and she sits there, traped in a coffin no?

[fair tulip]

My wis gets tped in a much more favourable spot

[coarse notch]

and then you break the coffin and get your wis back

[ancient lintel]

fair enough lol

[coarse notch]

stage condition if you dont have anasa karma gives all ops reduced redeployment time

[manic nacelle]

ok have fun aggressively not caring im gonna go dink around in base

[coarse notch]

and you have a solid 5-10 seconds of time between end of phase 1 and start of phase 2 to get wis back up

[copper oracle]

phantom crinsom solitare

[lavish monolith]

You dont just bring a single wis to ed1 no?
How broken is using other ops to free her.

[vital solstice]

I got tped by fremont and im like wtf is this

[copper oracle]

no, lol do u just cry when u roll merc

[ancient lintel]

I usually bring wis + exu

[vital solstice]

my wis facing a wall

[burnt cedar]

no, lol do you join the conversation with a stick up your ass?

[copper oracle]

sorry for actually playing the game 😢

[fiery canopy]

ur supposed to retreat her when u kill phase 1 yeah

[hardy merlin]

Is tragedian in game

[coarse notch]

blueprint lamp and its consequences for the average IS player's IQ

[burnt cedar]

you got 3 days man

[severe crypt]

Wait 3 days

[blissful berry]

is it 13th nov America?

[copper oracle]

yep they reroll emer chaos into merc then skillfully alt f4 😢

[severe crypt]

America spans multiple time zones but yes

[blissful berry]

ah because im asia i was thinking it was like 13th Nov in some SEA region

[severe crypt]

The server time that ak global uses is in NA

[burnt cedar]

why are people here acting like blueprint and lamp is harder than IS2

[distant estuary]

i have approximately 150 pulls for tragodia

[blissful berry]

I see

[severe crypt]

And the question is?

[copper oracle]

do u even know the success chance of rerolling into a wish node?

[formal shadow]

me when I fail to roll wish node 5 times in a row

[coarse notch]

how bad is d18 245 if you're not playing under tournament conditions anyways

[odd sky]

forgot about our maint time reducing
just see pins, it shows you on your timezone @blissful berry

[copper oracle]

its very likely that u reroll into a hard stage and just lose on the spot, in is2 theres literally no hard stages enroute

[formal shadow]

surely just wisadel it :clueless:

[blissful berry]

currently looking to get trag who else do you guys think i should get next

[copper oracle]

lmk when u finally wisadel emer merc 👍

[coarse notch]

same as anyone, check pull prio in pins

[formal shadow]

it'll still be ass to get the right conditions

[copper oracle]

ez 90%+ winrate

[burnt cedar]

I guess it comes down anecdotal experience then, I've had far better experience with IS5 than IS2

[coarse notch]

er, that screenshot really doesnt help your case here

[copper oracle]

its cos is5 is faster to grind exp, and but definitely not easier

obv u would rather see ur lvs go up quick instead of slow, but that doesnt make it easier

[coarse notch]

thats what i assumed actually, is this just bp lamp flinger comp or what
feels like its too voucher rng dependent tho

[distant estuary]

is5 is easy for me when borrow wisadel

[ancient lintel]

Fck no lmao
Using wis on merc is suicidal, there's no spot for her camo to work

[copper oracle]

bp nerfed at d16, sniper med better

[burnt cedar]

my case is that I've had a less frustrating time playing IS5 than IS2 because it just feels more consistent, AKA anecdotal

[distant estuary]

yeah u must have ines to do that stage (or other anti invisible)

[copper oracle]

you never rerolled into merc?

[coarse notch]

yea but the issue is that you clearly havent played enough of either to form an informed opinion
im not interested in debating but im just sayin, pulling up with barely any bp levels is not a good look

[formal shadow]

[distant estuary]

never get into that stage since i always fail so far

[ancient lintel]

Using wis on dispute is even more suicidal because a fck ton of low hover dudes are infested with epochs

[full ocean]

should i E2 my Nightingale?

[lavish monolith]

but the same IS allows you to win with only 0 ops and tons of luck.

I bet the newbie isnt even care about the alternate ending let alone doing it on multiple (245)

[lean jewel]

is civil eterna good for IS?

[bitter anvil]

depends on what else you have to build and what else you have already built, link krooster

[red oasis]

nope

[coarse notch]

actually ive seen skalter drafted in is4 tournaments before, whats up with that

[copper oracle]

im not talking about alternate ending or 245, im talking about elusive merc, a normal floor 4 stage, elusive merc literally harder than any stage in is2

[full ocean]

link krooster?

[distant estuary]

bard mainly for annihilation for me

[copper oracle]

skalter good for ed2+3 👍

[vital kelp]

i mean, is it wrong that is5 is more fun than is2

[coarse notch]

burst atk buff core for both?

[burnt cedar]

for your information I do, I'm just trudging along slowly

[lavish monolith]

elusive merc is ass. dev should feel bad for making that kind of stage layout

[red oasis]

skalter is a good buffer for ed3
can heal on ed2
also can flex into ed4 tank
the problem is her ass is too expansive

[bitter anvil]

krooster is a website which shows pmuch your whole account to anyone you share link with

it takes a min to import all your account data automatically

[ancient lintel]

Somewhere to link your account and display it to everyone

[copper oracle]

the question was which one is easier and not more fun

[full ocean]

ok on my way

[bitter anvil]

Is Vector Breakthrough the longest Ak event ever? Or we had something even longer

[vital kelp]

i saw their screenshot saying "better experience"

[copper oracle]

idk then

[coarse notch]

what happened to heidi then
and so is skalter actually a good niche solve or just kinda schizo tournament tech

[copper oracle]

the ed4 skalter s1 to heal wis turret + ng to give res to wis turret technologies 🤩

[red oasis]

you pick heidi 99% of the time
skalter if you have excess hope

[copper oracle]

skalter doesnt align with degen cycle u need to preactivate, also heidi is cheaper

[coarse notch]

oh so shes still used cool
was really hoping i didnt have to give her up

[pseudo gust]

Do I e2 my ptilopsis?

[lavish monolith]

But still, elusive merch is easy to dodge with plans or proper paths. Unlike the stiff route of IS2

[odd sky]

low prio, trag is close too

[turbid ocean]

I raise you frequent dispute

[vital kelp]

logos s2m3 worth?

[burnt cedar]

S1 and S3, S2 is unfortunately just not it

[vital kelp]

what is it socks

[formal shadow]

thing is none of the is2 stages are particulary that hard. just some annoying ones like justice

[turbid ocean]

what?

[coarse notch]

mods are all just one hivemind now apparently

[vital kelp]

you said you are going to raise a frequent dispute

[turbid ocean]

yes to their emerc

[burnt cedar]

the stage from IS

[turbid ocean]

freq dispute feels terrible on non-emergency too lol

[ancient lintel]

Fck your child, and everytime he ruins my run

[lavish monolith]

Am I the only one that thinks that epochal gaps (with no flag/agents) harder than frequent dispute?

[strange tusk]

Any recommended upcoming banners i should save for? Or shld I pull from the current ones?

[coarse notch]

epoch/sordid are blessed run accelerators wdym

[ancient lintel]

Pins

[turbid ocean]

idk what we doing reaching epochal without flags or agents

[maiden thunder]

Check pins for banner priority and for now save till Tragodia banner which is soon

[burnt cedar]

for the record I said he had a stick up his ass cuz he came into chat and immediately said "lol do you cry when you reroll into merc" which is just ????

[ancient lintel]

Why lol, those gave you a fck ton of plans

[strange tusk]

thx

[burnt cedar]

3 days, good luck with your pulls

[coarse notch]

kazdel kasino rewards not taking plans from sordid/gaps

[ancient lintel]

The abyssmal luck gang welcomes everyone

[burnt cedar]

always anytime

[turbid ocean]

And bloodline

[lavish monolith]

I got greedy and focused solely on DPS. Mostly with just a beanstalk from the starter

[turbid ocean]

greed is how we explode in high diff IS

learn discipline

☺️

[ancient lintel]

Oh c'mon its only 2 plans

[haughty holly]

discipline in a gacha game

[turbid ocean]

strategy game

[haughty holly]

also hi light

[coarse notch]

hence why its only $120 compared to gaps $200

[lavish monolith]

But it does pay-off if you can get away with your greedy ass

[vivid yew]

Which IS is the fastest to grind between 2,3, and 4?

[fiery canopy]

3

[haughty holly]

5

[turbid ocean]

reading check

[haughty holly]

ik that's why I put clueless

[coarse notch]

what happened to is5
of those is3

[turbid ocean]

may have already farmed it

[manic nacelle]

ok I replaced all the remaining random ops with decently skilled ops

should be about 25% better that's cool

[vital kelp]

ok

[burnt cedar]

if you want optimal base setups check pins in #r-i-i-c

[vivid yew]

Finished + full medal

[burnt cedar]

seeing you have a tier 3 reception I'll just let you figure out how to set-up based on the pins there as well as how built your current base is

[real scaffold]

What tragodia module do

[manic nacelle]

yeah I'm not going for optimal but i do like to improve things

[copper oracle]

u can reroll elusive merc into a different ass stage like chaos or disputes

[coarse notch]

the e disputes -> e merc -> e chaos special

[burnt cedar]

based on CN:

[haughty holly]

chaos is true chaos especially e

[odd sky]

[twilit shoal]

what skill is better for Exusiai? (Not Alter)

[vital kelp]

3

[burnt cedar]

s3

[pseudo flume]

S3

[odd sky]

not using her is also an option

[coarse notch]

not using her is the best option

[twilit shoal]

i will use her anyway cuz awesome

[past cloak]

Why is kernel regarded as the worst banner of all time

[vital kelp]

bad op bad rate

[haughty holly]

doodoo rates and old ops

[burnt cedar]

the operator selection is just old and not great

[ancient lintel]

Eh I find chaos to be relatively simple ngl
Gummy + tilop + wis + exu
Ines for invis reveal top lane = done

[past cloak]

Was there a time in which kernel was okay? good even?

[burnt cedar]

no

[fallen depot]

what do you get for completing D18?

[vital kelp]

bragging rights

[burnt cedar]

ego

[ancient lintel]

It will always feature old + outdated ops

[vital kelp]

also fib will shill u less

[past cloak]

so, you should just never ever use it?

[haughty holly]

https://krooster.com/u/pusheen_
What should I do next after lemuen mod2

Do I just e2 nantunya or

[coarse notch]

issue is you dont normally have space to draft ptilo and exu with lamp and its a pretty volatile stage where your stuff just randomly explodes
assuming d18 ed4/5 of course

[lavish monolith]

Chaos isnt that bad, tbh.
Not even close to elusive merc

[coarse notch]

chaos should be cause for hesitation, e merc is just a nope out of there

[ancient lintel]

You should never roll on kernel, however if you have free rolls, the answer might be yes, you'll want either ceobe, suzu, kaltsit, Nightingale n 2 others that I forgot the name

[haughty holly]

Angelina

[coarse notch]

typically you want to wait until the 5 star selection on it is decent tho

and you have 10 pulls to guarantee a 5 star

[ancient lintel]

Shamare is in the kernel pool right?

[lavish monolith]

Is there even a legit proper clear for elusive merc. Without relying on inv reveal or good collectible?

[past cloak]

How good is ceobe?

[burnt cedar]

she's fine, I don't believe you should specifically roll on kernel for her though

[ancient lintel]

I dont think there is lol

[haughty holly]

yeah

[past cloak]

Is she useful end-gameish?

[vital kelp]

which one is elusive merc again

[robust thistle]

W

[lavish monolith]

W

[haughty holly]

vividly remember debating on spending yellow cert for her

[rustic reef]

guys what is the chance to get tragodia when u hit the 6 star pity

[vital kelp]

[robust thistle]

50%

[haughty holly]

W + frost drone spawn

[ancient lintel]

Her dmg scales with enemy def, so once def got high enough she might can have higher DPS than even logos

[burnt cedar]

50%, if you hit hard pity the next one is guaranteed to be him

[vital kelp]

i dont remember is2 that much