help

[pine plover]

because e2 potrait kinda meh

[sleek ivy]

the face of someone who caught you midjork, thats E1 wis

[granite trout]

help me. What tags i should use now

[vital kelp]

dont know who u have

[pine plover]

top op slow to gamble suzuran

[ancient lintel]

e2 is good art tho

[ancient lintel]

top + slow for suzuran

[formal shadow]

:clueless:

[granite trout]

aight!!

[odd sky]

i cast penguin

[ancient lintel]

too bad she aint catchin me lackin, cause it's nov

[vital kelp]

chat my game is broken help

[bold mist]

Is it worth E2'ing reed alter? Just got her

[vital kelp]

what do i do

[bold mist]

Oh lol

[formal shadow]

looks normal to me

[odd sky]

should not pull orienteering anymore

[bold mist]

Huh?

[odd sky]

sure e2 her

[slim tusk]

if you don't have good caster else low prio

[bold mist]

Caster? I thought she's a healer

[sleek ivy]

I hate how easy MT-S-5 was after I realized what I was doing wrong

[ancient lintel]

incantation medics

[sleek ivy]

I spent near 6 hours on that damn thing, the moment I killed that statue and did the S3 my problem was solved

[wide tusk]

I don’t have another specialist, is he worthy the investment?

[ancient lintel]

she hits things to heal people
if you didnt read her trait lol

[high flower]

hey guys i kinda need some help, i forgot my account login and only remember my name id and 4 numbers, do you guys know if u can see my id in game somehow with that information? (name + 4 numbers afterwards)

[bold mist]

Ohhhh, that explains it, man thats the reason why I pulled her in the first place 💔

[turbid ocean]

Don't worry about filling classes, this games hardly about that

[ancient lintel]

niche asf, clunky as hell

requires too many brain power + setup to use 🥀

[wide tusk]

I guess I’ll save for phantom alt

[odd sky]

so many people fell for bait that is orienteering damn 🥀

[rough sierra]

Hello, #help

Which skill of Lemuen do people use for mt s 5? Thanks

[odd sky]

some use s2 some use s3, whichever mastered ig

[rough sierra]

Got it

[sleek ivy]

Personally I'd say 3, I struggled for a long time on it

Just pop it whenever the saint comes in, BESIDES THE FINAL PART ON THE SIDES, kill the statue in your middle first then blast it

[ancient lintel]

I used 2, and got through s5 first try

[dense frost]

when is the tragodia banner arriving?

[sleek ivy]

2 may be better, depends. I was borrowing a lemuen so I could only use 7. but S3's burst killed it the moment it shown up

[vital kelp]

chat wheres the h15 levels

[odd sky]

a week after

[dense frost]

what do these emotes mean?

[vital kelp]

stay tuned

[odd sky]

we don't know keep an eye out for #game-news

[dense frost]

ah i see, on a rough estimate, when would it be tho?

like, next month? this month?

[vital kelp]

later

[odd sky]

🤫

[solemn mauve]

hi, i'm a new player and luckily im at a point where i could take one of them to e2 pretty soon. who should i prioritize first? i was thinking lem since her s3 seems more useful for casual usage but im open to other suggestions

[ancient lintel]

We're not allowed to speculate since rule 5 exists lol

[ancient lintel]

exu alter -> lemuen

[odd sky]

don't have to pick cuz MT event shop has all exu2 e2 mats

[solemn mauve]

i have mats for both of them, just not enough currency so i have to pick one of the two

[magic dome]

His event will be in 11 days, if the banner comes at the same time then 11 days it is

[odd sky]

lmd on event shop ran out as well?

[solemn mauve]

yup

[dense frost]

i see, thanks

[ancient lintel]

exu the new covenant

[odd sky]

lemuen first

[hollow wigeon]

What story mode is S9-4?

[ancient lintel]

ep 9

[solemn mauve]

why so, her s3 doesnt seem useful for me at the moment? is there a particular reason i should prioritize her

[pale scaffold]

Get entelechia mod?

[odd sky]

unlocks s3 for lemuen

[pale scaffold]

Oh wasnt to me

[hollow wigeon]

It's different from this one?

[ancient lintel]

+13% atk for all ammo skill ops, x2 effect for laterano ops, so lemuen also benefits from exu e2

[magic dome]

But this applies if she pot3, if not then +9%

[fiery canopy]

its further down the line

[solemn mauve]

okay thats a good point, but i think ill probably get her after lem since i value skills a bit more than just raw numbers at the moment, thanks for the help everyone ❤️

[hollow wigeon]

thanks! guess i'll grind main story then

[ancient lintel]

oh, still 18% for lemuen though, and it's infinite as long as both of them are alive and deployed

[odd sky]

did you clear event shop

[wild mantle]

is chalter useful in vec?

[pale scaffold]

If i dont get a mod for my op what lvl should i stop at

[pine plover]

20

[pale scaffold]

20 it is

[odd sky]

sure for the pet dino thing, maybe phase1 mechanist

[earnest saddle]

anyone know where i can get high resolution images of E2 art of opertaors

[pine plover]

E2 lvl 20 is very cheap, it's almost free

[fiery canopy]

femn its a giraffe !

[pine plover]

puppiszunnis toolbox instead of wiki

[earnest saddle]

alr thanks

[pine plover]

wiki usually rescaled the image for more fluid page loading

[earnest saddle]

i see

[odd sky]

wiki editor

[round turtle]

i thought the mob battle mode was permanent. did i listen to misinfo

[ancient lintel]

mob battle mode?
the gamble one?
ye it's not permanent

[south parrot]

are there any additional resource rewards in vector breakthrough other than from the lv50 reward ladder?

[round turtle]

ah F

[peak summit]

Would gladia be a better option to hold lane hold than thorns

[ancient lintel]

fck no

[peak summit]

What if i changed ur mind

[odd sky]

that's it

[south parrot]

ok guess im farming stage 1 some more

[ancient lintel]

you can't

[peak summit]

Ok what r the cons then

[ancient lintel]

smaller range than thorns and less DPS

[peak summit]

Ok u convinced me thanks

[ancient lintel]

plus gladia has downtime, while thorns if you manage to set him up has 0 downtime

[north burrow]

the downtime comes front loaded

[peak summit]

Wisadel revenants need to have 3 block

[ancient lintel]

nah I'd prefer wis to have a def shred mod

[north burrow]

it's such a fail they didn't let Wis reveal invis

[signal dragon]

she can for 6 seconds with SA alt

[peak summit]

What r ur guys thoughts on skipping phantom alter

[odd sky]

he will rerun i guess, but a year later

[signal dragon]

shy isn't your account already stacked af?

[peak summit]

Yes

[pulsar turret]

Been playing for 2 years but do you guys continue farming event stages after clearing shop

[nimble zenith]

yes

[pulsar turret]

tyty

[signal dragon]

id pull trag for utility then

[peak summit]

But i ask cuz thete is a possibility i would skip him , i only got like 340 pulls or something with like limiteds coming up back to back

[signal dragon]

next limited isn't till January, you'll be fine

[ancient lintel]

I'm thinking of skipping trag too, but his kit is just too good to pass

[peak summit]

Yeaa dude but i would hate to pity him

[signal dragon]

pull till 1st 6* and see what happens

[ancient lintel]

my main target is leizi, but haruka n trag are also too good to pass

[peak summit]

She looks fun but idk how "good" she is

[ancient lintel]

on par with mylnar imo

[peak summit]

Like actually dps too?

[signal dragon]

she has good damage yeah

[magic dome]

Meaning if you have Mlynar then its not a priority unless you want 2 schwing schwing

[ancient lintel]

ye, and she has 2 skills that you can use, while mylnar only has 1 XD

[signal dragon]

3

[peak summit]

o shit

[ancient lintel]

her s3 is also good?

[fiery canopy]

all 3 skills usable with 3 being the niche

[ancient lintel]

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii m9 candidate fr fr

[magic dome]

She solo Emperor's Blade with S1

[peak summit]

no way wtf

[ancient lintel]

ye that's the problem, I dont have mylnar
so I'm gonna go for leizi

[peak summit]

Is she as tanky too

[magic dome]

Look on YT

[fair tulip]

She just flies iirc

[fiery canopy]

she has more survivability cause she floats

mlynar's +1 taunt kills him sometimes

[magic dome]

She flies so the fart can't get her

[peak summit]

Shit man

[ancient lintel]

mylnar has 502 DEF and 15 res, leizi has 491 DEF and 15 res
kinda the same ngl

[fair tulip]

Where the hp stats frfr

[ancient lintel]

our first 6* sky ranger looks weird asf ngl

[pale trail]

They say every inch counts

[ancient lintel]

she chills in the sky while mylnar just stand there reading a newspaper

[peak summit]

What ur guys thoughts on the cn backlash for silverash alter. Kit? He seems very broken with fast redeploy spam

[ancient lintel]

and ye since she's in the sky no ground mobs can target her, even casters cant

[magic dome]

Having Silverash alter makes everyone goes schwing schwing

[ancient lintel]

she's a guard but she can fly and block aerial enemies
she's definitely our first 6* sky ranger

[peak summit]

I saw a video i was very surprised i thought he would only make 1 unit do that but its actually the whole team

[fiery canopy]

cn just wants him to be broken so they bullied lowlight but failed

[peak summit]

As a vanguard he is actually really good i like him

[signal dragon]

sa S1 feels meh
sa S2 fun for general content, doubt it'll see use in harder content but we'll see
S3 isn't gonna see use outside of CC dp risk

[peak summit]

The fact he can swap DP cost also helps with some EX stages with class dp increase or something even cc

[signal dragon]

he's fairly tanky too, good defence stat and has regen

[jovial urchin]

I'm pretty against it. Arguments about him dictating how you play is just not it. I don't play CN but I really like the idea of him shuffling DP around and giving everyone some kind of support

[peak summit]

Yea saame

[peak summit]

He has 20 res right?

[signal dragon]

S2 feels quite comfy
lower operator cost, give them invis reveal
also 15 res

[gleaming zinc]

what skill for reed flame shadow

[peak summit]

Wait he gives them invis reveal globally??

[pale trail]

invis reveal, my beloved.

[signal dragon]

6 seconds of invis reveal when you deploy an operator that has received his buff, they'll do one silverash swing which reveals invis
inflicts cold too

[fiery canopy]

3

[jovial urchin]

Till this day, I don't really get why this is a controversy in the first place. His kit is unique, he does decent damage when you have the means to facilitate it (Having people with high base attack stat) and he provides a niche for high DP units to be placed early while sacrificing another poor vanguard in your teach

[peak summit]

Thats all in 1 vanguard wtf bro

[signal dragon]

stacks twice so you can freeze enemies it's fun

[peak summit]

I feel like the ppl who complained are newer players

[signal dragon]

oh forgot to say , when they do the mini silverash slash it uses the operators attack stat

[vague lintel]

logos prio mod delta or mod y?

[signal dragon]

delta

[thorny edge]

the thing is, why not just use ines anyways

[jovial urchin]

I actually am not even sure about it. On one hand, they definitely seem to be experienced enough to see how shuffling DP can cause harm, but at the same time they don't realize that you are also getting a big chungus with a low DP cost out

[signal dragon]

Ines feels better overall imo

[jovial urchin]

Because she's the goat

[signal dragon]

if I'm gonna use sa alt, it would be alongside Ines

[peak summit]

It would actually suck if every new operator just does omega damage dude im happy about silverash

[safe lily]

Whose module do I prioritize between exu2, logos, and lappalter?

[thorny edge]

sash feels like extra steps to do what ines does anyways. although his invis reveal is already available at e1

[plush falcon]

Logos > Exu > Lappalt

[safe lily]

Do I go for delta?

[plush falcon]

Yes

[jovial urchin]

Lappland doesn't even need mod btw, it barely changes a thing about her

[thorny edge]

uh i'd grab exu mod 1 tho

[plush falcon]

Tho just grab at least mod 1 for exu

[safe lily]

I'll try, I'm broke rn cuz I just e2'd logos

Thanks

[ancient lintel]

did the wiki "kinda" translate leizi's skill wrong?
cause I dont think initial sp is meant to be higher than the required SP

[young glacier]

Can store charges

[vague wasp]

It's charge skill

This why virt deployed with 2 charge at m3

[ancient lintel]

wait that's a thing?

[jovial urchin]

Who's gonna tell bro about Virtuosa's skill one

[jovial urchin]

3 charges

[vague wasp]

[ancient lintel]

damn ok, I'm a dumbass apparently

[jovial urchin]

It's an 18/6 skill, so 3 charges on deploy

[vague wasp]

Ok nerdge dude

[severe crypt]

Apparently?

[jovial urchin]

Oh trust me, I'm the LEAST nerdy out of everyone here

[vague wasp]

[formal shadow]

In EN we can't math

[jovial urchin]

Lies

[young glacier]

Let me 3D graph everyone's nerdness

[fiery canopy]

[jovial urchin]

See?

[tropic fulcrum]

Hello! sorry to ask is shining still good to build ono? she's my only 6* medic

[vague wasp]

No

[nimble zenith]

no

[tropic fulcrum]

aw oke thanks

[jovial urchin]

Probably wait till you're much older in this game

[vague wasp]

Omg jennie

[tropic fulcrum]

should i build lumen instead?

[vague wasp]

A no too

[tropic fulcrum]

aw'

Do you recommend anyone here?

[vague wasp]

You can wait haruka instead for 6* healer
And just hold the urge with silence ort ptilo now

[jovial urchin]

You're probably doing just fine

[severe crypt]

Silence and susurro

[tropic fulcrum]

oooooo oke thank ou

[vague wasp]

Also, build your base worker

[signal dragon]

build purestream for base
check #bot-spam /baseskills for other slaves

[pseudo flume]

I am

[pale trail]

Who here is worth building

[severe crypt]

Susurro ig

[crystal holly]

umm so i accidentally missed the exusiai banner, which banner should i save for next?

[severe crypt]

Tragodia

[crystal holly]

thank you

[tropic fulcrum]

silence alter is free right? but since the lone trail event is over i can't get her anymore?

[severe crypt]

You have to wait for record restoration, also she sucks

[signal dragon]

did anyone try her in vec-12?

[severe crypt]

Would rechord do such thing?

[signal dragon]

he's using bad 5*s only I think

[fiery canopy]

silence alt is peak in vec12

[slim tusk]

cope seeth

[sleek finch]

im sure you can just use a doll keeper to face tank the initial blast, much like for cliff

[signal dragon]

fair, I was just curious
also hii

[young glacier]

Not sure because he repeats it 3 times, and I would be me if I didn't had experience with dying to skill shot because dollkeeper was untargetable on switching

[mental gull]

is it recommended not to go for drill records in base? And that I should instead go for tactical & frontline battle record?

[crystal holly]

have there been any collabs since marcille?

[formal shadow]

for now? no
cn got some of em coming up though

[crystal holly]

okok thx

[young glacier]

Go for highest EXP ticket, I don't recall names, most factory space per unit

[ancient lintel]

susurro, and also paprika if you have spare resources, you build paprika for base purposes, not combat

[high flower]

guys how can i use prts website to look up this? (example image)

[pale trail]

[sleek finch]

dont build paprika btw

[pale frigate]

is this what i need to complete to get the last 100 orundum from the annihilation missions

[sleek finch]

yes

[river palm]

what operators other than silverash and ines can remove enemy invisibility?

[sleek finch]

actually i need to ping you, for fuck sake dont build paprika, she is terrible in combat and in base

[ancient lintel]

scene

[formal shadow]

there's a prts website that does this?

[cinder hearth]

Tomimi.dev has the info you need.
Scene, Elysium, are examples.

[high flower]

its that a confirmation or a question?

[formal shadow]

's a question

[high flower]

i saw a guy, do that multiple times just with the name and the # , was wondering if i could do the same to find out my id

thats why i ask

i guess i can contact him directly, i guessed what he did was common knowledge around here

[marble solar]

ID is visible in your profile, in game

[high flower]

i dont have my account

[dim sluice]

[high flower]

im trying to get it back, only have number and # but they ask me for my id too

[dim sluice]

Yo star id?

[maiden wasp]

anyone have typhon s2 m3?

[formal shadow]

game id

[high flower]

yes

[dim sluice]

U didn't link with gmail?

[formal shadow]

yeah i think you need email verification or game id

[high flower]

i honestly dont remember how or what i linked it too, tried multiple gmails but it didnt work out

it was a long time ago, probably couple of years

[dim sluice]

Use all email u yave

[high flower]

i searched for yostar mails, everything and i got some but when trying they got me a new account

[delicate vapor]

Which one should I go for on this one

[pseudo gust]

Why is thorns considered bad nowadays? He used to be one of the top 3 operators.

[formal shadow]

ceobe/ng but don't pull on it

[abstract mauve]

used to. we have newer better operators now

[formal shadow]

is this 100% uptime slow about astgenne2

[abstract mauve]

significantly better in fact. you wont see him used seriously for any hard content nowadays

[dim sluice]

Saria bagpipe surtr?

[abstract mauve]

my niche has like 16 different slow operators. astgenne2 is just an easy way to pull it off for max efficiency

[dim sluice]

Nichenights

[abstract mauve]

but ye astgenne2 + underflow + umiri is almost full uptime on their own. 5 seconds of downtime i believe

[dim sluice]

[marble solar]

can't find it, best bet is to ask #cn-lounge for the time being

[unreal reef]

depends on your need? but i would say nightingale if u dont have healer yet

[dim sluice]

Have u seen saki

[abstract mauve]

ill send you a DM on discord

[sleek finch]

you know, saki is not why thorns fell off

[dim sluice]

Just a bar to show the gap

[high flower]

sure

[unreal reef]

whos saki

[sleek finch]

you dont need to show someone to lift 300kg to know someone who cant lift 10kg is weak

[dim sluice]

[surreal nexus]

Where do I find this mission/unlock it

[dim sluice]

To show the gap

[cinder hearth]

Darknights memoir

[dim sluice]

[cinder hearth]

It's an intermezzi. Well, ex-intermezzi. May as well be a side story with the new UI.

[sleek finch]

well its known as misleading or misinformation

its like saying amiya is bad because logos exist

no, X is bad because Y is better tend to mean powercreep or powergap

in this situation, X is bad because X cant even pull themselves up

[delicate vapor]

Im new i dont rlly have anyone

[dim sluice]

No op is bad ur gaslighting urself

[sleek finch]

then you dont get anyone
save for future banners

[delicate vapor]

Okay thanks, if u were talking to me lol

[sleek finch]

seem like you are a WOT

[turbid ocean]

Just see pins for pull prio

[dim sluice]

I don't know what that even means 💔🥀

[past bramble]

Are the badges obtainable during the rerun of the event? I really don’t feel like completing cm for 3 of the s stages

[cinder hearth]

Tbh DPS and max damage numbers would help with these kinda comparisons.
Oftentimes players convince themselves of opinions numbers can disprove.

[sleek finch]

yes

[cinder hearth]

ie one could give Thorns' rather pitiful DpH and DpS, then compare it to some simple modern meta examples.

[dim sluice]

[delicate vapor]

Wait so what about this should I pull on this??

[cinder hearth]

Pull to first 6*.

Assuming you don't plan to reroll your account until you get a good op on the standard banner.

[sleek finch]

i mean
you dont even need to put them into a modern meta for comparison

thorns already eat shit back in cc3 and cc4

well in cc2, he barely pulls his weight but still on life support

[dim sluice]

[delicate vapor]

I just want to save for future banners I was told a strong op was coming next patch too so, but this banner seems to have good offer

[dim sluice]

Maybe do 1 pulls to get reed or smth

[ancient lintel]

it's to help you get started ye, that's why we tell you to do singles, because ur guarantee a 6* in <=10 pulls

[delicate vapor]

Wth is reed

[marble solar]

just save ur pulls

[delicate vapor]

😓

[unreal reef]

operator name, reed

[dim sluice]

A Harmacist

[cinder hearth]

You can Google this, by the way.

[ancient lintel]

it's fine, he's new, should have like a fck ton of sanity to grind for

[delicate vapor]

I prefer human interaction, half human interaction but I prefer it. Plus it’s good to have more than one opinion by the way.

[marble solar]

that does not mean it's good to waste pulls 😭

[rough yarrow]

If I have Taquila do I really need Mlynar?

[ancient lintel]

teq is more of a base slaves, he's no where near mylnar's level lol

[undone portal]

mlynar does a lot more damage

[dim sluice]

Maybe get leizi

[runic rain]

is exupie mod lvl 3 significantly btr than her mod at lvl2

[shadow bay]

imagine mlynar is tequila but on steroids

[white kraken]

can i still get the trimmed vec breakthrough medal if I wait until the third set of buffs unlock?

[cinder hearth]

No.

[runic rain]

b4 6th nov

[sleek finch]

and he could also use the same for more important and stronger ops, very soon

[rough yarrow]

I mean if I theoretically were to get the selector, would it be worth to get Mlynar over another top tier?

[ancient lintel]

it's not that much though, c'mon man even if you have to do 10 singles that's like 6 pulls on the standard banner

[marble solar]

@high flower did you get the site? i found if you wanted

[runic rain]

guys

[cinder hearth]

3rd set unlocks on the 6th, and that's the day the trim deadline expires.

[undone portal]

exualt? shes honestly already fine at lv1, upgrades are just a boost to the aoe talent, no huge dps jump

[runic rain]

time to start praying for rng

[sleek finch]

he was talking about orienteering, not beginner banner

[ancient lintel]

oh, mb

[dim sluice]

[shadow bay]

no pulls will be wasted if u just refill it back with 💳

[high flower]

somebody helped me found it, thank you very much though ^^

[dim sluice]

Credit card power creep when

[white kraken]

so to get the trim, I have to do it with only the buffs we have now and the ones that unlock in a few hours?

[cinder hearth]

Yeah. Fun fact, it's 4op'able buffless

[dim sluice]

U can spam stage 1 like I did

[cinder hearth]

Hope you pulled the right ops for the job.

[shadow bay]

no way... i can trim medal on stage 1 doing repeatedly???

[sleek finch]

fyi, the goal is trim medal, spamming stage 1 does not give medal

[dim sluice]

Ywa wait no

[shadow bay]

wow i got lied this chat fell off

[dim sluice]

mb

[undone portal]

trimmed medal for vector breakthrough is to clear vec-12 during week1. good luck

[wild vapor]

Whats the prediction to Tragodia?

[ancient lintel]

Soon

[shadow bay]

is this 4 op sui???

or the 4 op include yu on it?

[undone portal]

yu/shu/exualt/reedalt

[cinder hearth]

Yu Shu Exualt Reedic is the standard, yeah.

[shadow bay]

reedic???

[cinder hearth]

Yu middle lane, Shu bottom. Exualt and Reedic cover both.

Simple enough to understand.

[dim sluice]

Wow I just found a way to cheese it

Imma go search for someone to borrow yu from

[calm raptor]

Is leizi alt worth going for if you already have a mlynar?

[unreal reef]

does everyone need to be max level? my exualt only lv 70

[maiden plover]

Is she worth to e2?

[ancient lintel]

e2 lv 60 is enough

[dim sluice]

60 shud shud be good no

[undone portal]

shes quite nice to have, but fairly skippable in comparison to everything else around her

[maiden thunder]

if u are trying to play a lot of IS primarily IS3 sure,but it's a low priority for you.

[maiden plover]

Alr

[undone portal]

everyone can be at lv60 with masteries. shu/exu mod1 at minimum but otherwise everything works

[dim sluice]

[cinder hearth]

Funnily enough, fae actually rates her over Sakiko, Mantra, Ulpi, and Silveralter/Pramalter so far.

[dim sluice]

[tropic wraith]

So uhhh
Whom do I pick, surtr or suffering?

[shadow bay]

skip

[maiden thunder]

I think operator wise it's Tragodia>leizialt>hoshitalt but banner wise it's Tragodia>hoshitalt>leizialt

[undone portal]

dont
surtrs free in 3months on a selector, fia just isnt worth it

[dim sluice]

Mhmm

[tropic wraith]

the gacha?

[cinder hearth]

Anyways Tragodia and the Haruka/Hoshialt banners are undisputably the most important upcoming banners.

[cinder hearth]

No you literally get a 6* selector ticket for free and Surtr is the best option in it.

[dim sluice]

Surtr free in anniversary

[undone portal]

we're getting a voucher that lets you redeem for surtr/bagpipe/eyja/saria, your pick

[white kraken]

mod levels for shu, lin, ascalon, ceobe, ines?

[shadow bay]

selector

surtr/eyja/saira/bagpipe will be in selector free months from now

[maiden thunder]

Just take gold certs if u are not a newbie from the selector

[maiden thunder]

Shu?modless. Lin modx3.Ascalon modx1. Ceobe modx3 . Ines modless

[dim sluice]

Ines skins are so cool

[shadow bay]

lin want mod3 of more sp gain chance when hit
ascalon mod1 for more slow
ceobe do the bread module 3
ines is fine mod1 for more redeploy action on her first retreat, but can be modless

[dim sluice]

I get the urge to try luck on standard sometimes ngl

[maiden thunder]

Just quit/close the game when you feel it encroaching

[dim sluice]

I reroll an account

[shadow bay]

inb4 someone would tell u we dont care with ur poor decisions and go to #arknights

[dim sluice]

Makes sense

[white kraken]

shu modless? are the gains that bad? I thought shu was meta so any buff would be useful

[maiden thunder]

It's QoL,she tanks just as well without it and module blocks are too limited to be spending on QoL

[crimson moth]

Any must pulls from the banner? I don't have nay of them

[formal shadow]

no

[shadow bay]

i got baited by the is4 geeks to mod3 her

but yeh she is fine modless

[sleek finch]

yeah gain is shit, you either mod3 because thats the only change it matter, or mod0, anything in between are minor stat gain

and high chance she get better 2nd mod

[cinder hearth]

Shu actually has a pretty decent mod.
Question is, do you need those extra numbers anyways.

[warm scarab]

is spot better defender than beagle?

[white kraken]

are we waiting for a second mod to buff the 4 sui trait?

[maiden thunder]

Prob yeah so CCB5 will also be 4 suis meta amazing

[cinder hearth]

Like are you even having her or an ally she's keeping alive dying by small enough margins the mod buff can fix that!

[maiden thunder]

Usually yeah and better base skill too

[quick jolt]

hes not as tanky but is overall more useful

[warm scarab]

alr

[cinder hearth]

Spot overall is the superior raise.

[white kraken]

reed2 and mudrock are also mod0?

[warm scarab]

who's a good dp recovery operator?

[maiden thunder]

Reed modless and mudrock modx1

[tulip oxide]

I noticed there's a timer in the outfit store. is everything there gonna change once the timer runs out?

[severe crypt]

change/go away, each event brings new/old skins

[vapid anchor]

Does tragodia make Virtuosa homeless

[severe crypt]

trag and virt do different things, but trag is objectively better

[tulip oxide]

by "event" do u mean it changes per patch?

[vapid anchor]

What are some scenarios where youd wanna bring Virtuosa instead of tragodia

[warm scarab]

who is a good dp recovery operator?

[severe crypt]

pretty much yeah, either a bunch of old skins rerun and/or new ones get released

[warm scarab]

hmm okay

[severe crypt]

actually that would be the 5 star+ flags and the agents

[warm scarab]

5star flags?

[severe crypt]

elysium, wanqing and saileach, all of them have the same s1 with the best flag dp gen

[warm scarab]

oh

[icy plinth]

This is enough for Exalter, right?

[severe crypt]

tho realistically ines is the current best vg overall

[warm scarab]

so these are reco dp recovery operator?

[severe crypt]

flags are mainly for dp recovery with some extra support features, but you really only bring them for dp gen

[warm scarab]

flags? where can I get them?

[ancient lintel]

flags are for DP gen, they're also your best friend in annihilation clears

[severe crypt]

however if you get your hands on an agent that isnt Puzzle or that 4 star one, youd end up using them instead

[ancient lintel]

vanguard + healing in recruit tag = myrtle

[maiden thunder]

Pioneer s1🤫

[shadow bay]

and chil

[warm scarab]

oh okay

[severe crypt]

ok but nom, which new player would have chil in their account

[warm scarab]

how many star does myrtle have?

[ancient lintel]

fair enough

[shadow bay]

new players with homegrown account 🤫

[maiden thunder]

4* and the best 4* vanguard for general content(beanstalk for anything else)

[warm scarab]

alr

[ancient lintel]

she's a 4*, should be easy to get her to e1 lv 40 sl7 and boom, you can use her pretty much anywhere

[severe crypt]

yeah i was wating for you to say that

[loud nimbus]

Is Radiant Knight Nearl still worth upgrading as a guard, or not?

[severe crypt]

e1 lvl1 only actually

[maiden thunder]

E1 lvl 1 is enough just sl7

[white kraken]

was Lin meta at any point besides CCB2? reconsidering spending the mod blocks on her and just borrowing a maxed Lin when needed

[maiden thunder]

You have to be pretty down bad on Dps to consider raising her

[warm scarab]

look at my squad hehe, what should I do

[loud nimbus]

Ooof. Well, what guard should I prioritize? All I got is Mountain and Surtr.

[maiden thunder]

Surtr to e2 and keep mountain e1

[severe crypt]

shes a good caster, but not logos level, and i dont think she has any must have uses anymore

[ancient lintel]

did you use the selector?

[warm scarab]

selector?

[formal shadow]

swap jessica with kroos1

[ancient lintel]

the 6* selector thingy

[maiden thunder]

Kick plume and replace amiya with click/steward while base kroos replace Jessica

[warm scarab]

kroos1?

[severe crypt]

did you pull or use the selector on silverash

[formal shadow]

kroos

[dense anvil]

good day, who to raise from this

[warm scarab]

i pulled him

[severe crypt]

obv blaze sister

[ancient lintel]

good, wait till you get the selector then use it to get either mountain or thorns

[dry ruin]

Does anyone have a max out Shuu? I really need one 😭

[white kraken]

Lin is still the best ranged tank right? PramAlt S3 does more damage than Lin now I believe so she's not even the best Phalanx by damage

[loud nimbus]

I also have Pepe, Chongyue (somehow, I never seem lucky enough to get any of the sui siblings), Irene, and chen. Oh, and Executor altar, and I've long since upgraded thorns and silverash.

[warm scarab]

isn't that like the 5th day?

[severe crypt]

i mean, i dont really see the need for a ranged tank these days, especially when you could just have wis summon tank it instead

[unreal reef]

i have, whats your id ill add you

[ancient lintel]

yes
wait you already got teq e2, that means ur day 14 already

[warm scarab]

whose click and steward?

[formal shadow]

my vote on kjera

[warm scarab]

no man, I just started 3 days ago

[ancient lintel]

oh, then wait till day 5 for the selector, you'll want either thorns our mountain, personally I'd pick thorns

[warm scarab]

alr

[loud nimbus]

Mountain is just a place and forget kind of operator.

[spring obsidian]

how good is la pluma?

[shadow bay]

who in the world would buy mulb skin and not build her???

[loud nimbus]

personally, I like Honeyberry. Very cute.

[ancient lintel]

pretty good 5*

[dense anvil]

i buy skin to put as assistant, i dont necessarily raise em

[ancient lintel]

1 of the best 5* imo

[spring obsidian]

is it worth it to e2 la pluma for vector breakthrough garrison?

[dry ruin]

Mycks#5604

[shadow bay]

in general she may worth e2ing... she is that handful of an operator

[warm scarab]

are 3 star rarity worth to e1 ?

[dry ruin]

Definitely

[shadow bay]

sure they are cheap

and some of em even utilized in integrated strategies

[hallow raft]

They're your baseline operators.

[warm scarab]

alr

dang I don't have click or steward

[maiden thunder]

Click is a 4* and steward is a 3* caster both of these are better than amiya at e1

[warm scarab]

ye but I don't have them 💀💀

[silver smelt]

anyone know how to not exit fullscreen with 'esc' on ldplayer

[maiden thunder]

Considering you have been playing for a long time to get this big of a roster I don't think surtr will do much for you unless your ranged DPS are also bad

[ancient lintel]

should be able to get them easily from recruitment

[jovial urchin]

No you're not, you are anything but not nerdy

[loud nimbus]

It's just that I feel like I need more alternate units.

[warm scarab]

i don't wanna waste red thingy tho 😓

[valid karma]

any1 got a m3 surtr?

[ancient lintel]

just wait 9h bruh

[maiden thunder]

Trust me a unit that can only DPS once very 70s is not a great addition you can work FedEx if u havent

[warm scarab]

yea

[loud nimbus]

I also found out I only have like....2 viable medics. I have no idea how I've been playing for so long with only two medics.

[ancient lintel]

she's a helidrop alr, but tbh 70s cool down aint really worth it lol

[hallow raft]

Feel free to add me, Plekkx#7769, I am modless though

[maiden plover]

should i replace any of them for lumen? or should i even consider raising him or not

[maiden thunder]

Don't raise lumen yes

[cinder hearth]

Lumen kinda ass.

[maiden plover]

alr

[ancient lintel]

dont raise lumen, you already have tilop

[cinder hearth]

Ptil, not tilop.

[ancient lintel]

tilop + saria should be more than enough for healing

[short kettle]

is that you nein

[ancient lintel]

tea apple sauce

[cinder hearth]

Nein kampf.

[loud nimbus]

Oh yeah, I have blaze too.

Should I even raise Tequila?

[ancient lintel]

dont delete it bruh

[cinder hearth]

Tequila fries blaze in terms of DPS

[hallow raft]

Tequila for base n dps if you lack any

[ancient lintel]

OG blaze in this econ is wild

[thorny edge]

i dont remember the last time i used a proper medic outside of ansel in IS
so ur fine

[shadow bay]

probably a newbie and somehow landed a blaze

which is.... still a handful unit for laneholding

[ancient lintel]

especially when hoederer and ulpi exists lol

[loud nimbus]

I didn't get lucky for the horn lady who's name I have trouble typing.

[hallow raft]

We can't assume everyone holds a hoederer or ulpi in their rosters

[loud nimbus]

It's been so long since I've played. ;w;

[jovial urchin]

There are plenty of horn women in this game

[ancient lintel]

I mean yea but blaze isn't really prio, unless she's the only good laneholder he has

[olive mason]

degenbrecher is just okay anyway

[thorny edge]

how tf did you know it was degenbrecher

[shadow bay]

inb4 its not degenbrecher

[hallow raft]

Yeah, I was going to go there. If you really lack lane holder, I guess Blaze won't be a bad option

[ancient lintel]

degen from the orientering?

[modest goblet]

Anyone have the list of reward for the full front event

[hallow raft]

In fact, if you keep asking on whom to raise, like. Can you share us your roster? We're assuming at this point @loud nimbus

[loud nimbus]

I'm waiting for Phantom Alter. Which was one of the many reasons I came back.

[loud nimbus]

I would, but i have no idea how to show. It's not like Genshin where it's a neat little page.

[hallow raft]

screen shot if you have a few units.

[jovial urchin]

In Arknights, there is a neat little page if you click on "Operator" in your main lobby

[olive mason]

operator page -> sort by rarity

[hallow raft]

If you got a lot I suggest you go to Krooster, import your account roster there.

[thorny edge]

if you have the time
https://www.krooster.com

[unreal reef]

ok done

[loud nimbus]

Oh shoot, perfect. thank you!

[shadow bay]

krooster easy to input now since it have import function

[hallow raft]

Well it also depends on how willing you're to trust a site with logging in but yeah.

[odd sky]

if krooster did something wrong, we know who to go to
the dev is here lmao

[lofty mauve]

Just need a quick reminder, best case scenario, how much DP does Ines S2M3 get with no added ASPD aside from her steal?

[jovial urchin]

I wonder if haimao is an undercover helper here

[thorny edge]

like 17-18?

[loud nimbus]

Considering how much security I put on all my accounts, I'm not entirely worried.

[shadow bay]

inb4 he is actually under alias of kotkai

[turbid ocean]

👁️

quit the yap

[oak shale]

Any upcoming absolute units to save up for that we know about?

[hallow raft]

Tragodia

[shadow bay]

look in pins... should give u rough idea on who to save

[loud nimbus]

Okay so how do I show my collection?

[oak shale]

I always forget there are pins ngl

[turbid ocean]

Link account to krooster.com

[jovial urchin]

Chat, how decent is Astgenne (Idk i forgot her name spelling)?

[maiden thunder]

Bad(includes her alter)

[indigo spoke]

whats the different between crusher traits and centurion traits ? both are attack all blocked enemy

[shadow bay]

if u linked it already, go to account settings and copy the link there

[maiden thunder]

Crusher has 0 defense and has a stun in their kit always

[sacred elm]

crusher has block 2 at max right?

[jovial urchin]

Sick, imma upgrade her once she comes. Btw how bad is she? What is her unique mechanic?

[maiden thunder]

Link damage, linked enemies take a % of damage taken by other linked enemies the problem is that the % is low

[fiery canopy]

she has potential

[shadow bay]

surely good dmg and fast hitting ones would benefit greatly in chain dmg mechanic like most of the games

[jovial urchin]

Does the link damage ignore overkill damage or does the other enemy get the full damage?

[lime steeple]

imagine her with aspd relics

[maiden thunder]

That is something you gotta ask the dalao(more than likely not)

[jovial urchin]

[odd sky]

@abstract mauve

[indigo spoke]

is dusk still a good splash caster ?

[thorny edge]

when was dusk ever a good splash caster

[hallow raft]

The best splash caster isn't even splash caster

[loud nimbus]

https://krooster.com/u/fresh-maroon-fuze-137l To preface, I came back very recently....and mostly exhausted my excess originium from this new event, and briefly for like...a couple of days a few months ago before really returning. I'm mostly asking: "What units should I focus on/am I neglecting?"

[indigo spoke]

can we talk about silverash alter here yet?

[hushed moon]

The midboss for is2 is so cancer bruh

How do I deal with this unicycle guy?

[shadow bay]

u can yeh... just avoid lore stuff... and non gameplay related stuffs

[jovial urchin]

You can talk about his kit as soon as he comes out

[hallow raft]

There doesn't seem to be an immediate need for a laneholder like Blaze on your account

[ancient lintel]

burst him dead right off the bat

[indigo spoke]

ah ok avoid lore stuff, got it

[signal dragon]

block him, kill him or out heal

[hallow raft]

In fact you probably just don't need her.

[hushed moon]

My units die before I get there I never get a healer recruitment 😬

[loud nimbus]

Probably not. I just have no idea what to do next. ;w;

[ancient lintel]

bad luck

[lime steeple]

if i alr have thorns from beginner banner, should i choose blaze or saria from free selector?

[thorny edge]

weedy, mizuki, greyy alter, proviso

[indigo spoke]

silver ash, check pins btw

[hushed moon]

How do i unlock shop refresh for is2?

[ancient lintel]

s2m3 exu2 and get mod for lemuen

[stuck wigeon]

what do i do with top op tag if i have every 6* from recruitment?

[lime steeple]

isnt mlynar better than him?

[jovial urchin]

No you don't

[shadow bay]

u dont

[hushed moon]

That sucks so bad

[shadow bay]

u ummm chase for potential or someone p6 for gold certs

[ancient lintel]

he still has the reduced redeployment time and invis reveal

[lime steeple]

oh i never knew he could reveal invis

[maiden thunder]

Work on proviso e2,Finish your masteries and then u can work on FedEx mod3 s3m3 lemuen mod2 s3m3 if u like IS u can work on Angelina ISmod3 s3m3/mizuki ISmod3 s2m3 while a good raise would be narantuya to e2 60 s3m3

[ancient lintel]

so he has some usage in mid - end game content

[thorny edge]

yeah but do you have mlynar

[stuck wigeon]

i have p5 phantom and fast-redeploy tag

[lime steeple]

i was hoping to get him as off-rate in future banners idk

[shadow bay]

then u can p6 him for ummm... trophy shelf or something

[maiden thunder]

Mlynar is better than blaze and saria too?

[lime steeple]

idk

[ancient lintel]

good luck with that lol

[thorny edge]

its rare but it can happen. so just raise sash in the meantime

[ancient lintel]

in like 40 ish different offrates

[stuck wigeon]

usually you dont hope for off-rates actually

[lime steeple]

blaze and saria dont have uses for newbie anymore?

[maiden thunder]

It's not like u have to choose 1 burst dps the main way to play this game is rotating burst dps so just use both mlynar/sash and rotate their s3🥱

[thorny edge]

blaze is a washed up relic of a laneholder, saria is just a tank

[ancient lintel]

blaze is the 2nd worse one you can get from the newbie banner ngl
the worst one is exu1

[frank wing]

which side story is the one with the gravity gimmick that would move the balls?

[maiden thunder]

Blaze makes u wait 70s so she can struggle to mid lvl DEF enemies

[maiden thunder]

Those who take the future>Lone trail

[stuck wigeon]

superior s1 blaze users

[frank wing]

Oh thats getting record restoration next right?

[indigo spoke]

simple question, you can get mlynar rn?

[loud nimbus]

I've seen this twice- What does Proviso do?

[thorny edge]

u have a 1.2% chance to get mlynar from a 6 star bag. the chances of that happening isnt worth banking on at all

[maiden thunder]

Turns every 2/3 gold trade into 4/5 every single time

[shadow bay]

it should be soon given LT was 2 years ago

but still, wait for announcement in #game-news

[maiden thunder]

1000/1500 to 2000/2500

[ancient lintel]

1000/1500 LMD -> 2000/2500 LMD

[loud nimbus]

Oh my lord-

[ancient lintel]

a LMD farmer fr fr

[thorny edge]

yeah she makes you money so put her ass to work

[maiden thunder]

Shortest ROI

[loud nimbus]

I NEED that actually.

[ancient lintel]

her on 1 TP, teq + shamare + bibeak combo on the other
profit
50-60k LMD per day

[shadow bay]

good good

u also need to prepare lot of gold bars coz proviso will need that

[fiery canopy]

u can hit 60k without shamare combo actually

[lime steeple]

goo goo gaa gaa i alr got answer for my question what do u want from me

[fiery canopy]

so with shamare combo might be like 65k something

[loud nimbus]

Side note- I am out of LMD anyway, so- any good sources for that?

[ancient lintel]

ye she devours gold, like right now she's eating more gold than I can produce

[ancient lintel]

Intergrated stratergies welcomes you
and Reclamation Algorithm as well if ur into that

[fiery canopy]

good thing we get alot of gold from certs monthly

[nova moon]

loughshinny mod kinda ass aint it?

[fiery canopy]

ya reedic is fine modless

[stuck wigeon]

im just gonna yolo it, maybe i can get p6 schwarz or p6 bagpipe or even p1 mountain or thorns

[quick jolt]

its a great buff to her healing but thats not rly her main job

[formal shadow]

wdym, that +aspd goes hard surely :clueless:

[indigo spoke]

whats the different between supporter trait Hexer and core caster ? both deal arts dmg

[odd sky]

you shouldn't get hung up on archetypes

[stuck wigeon]

hexers do less damage but can debuff, depending on their kit
casters focus more on dealing damage

[quick jolt]

atk. core casters on average have almost double the atk of hexer supporters. core casters' skills also tend to be more damage focused

[stuck wigeon]

either way its per-kit so just read who does what and what're their stats

[formal shadow]

sometimes archetype trait descriptions give little on what the archetype does :ya:

[quick jolt]

archetype barely matters yeah. keep in mind lemuen and fartooth are the same archetype

[stuck wigeon]

and lunacub

[ancient lintel]

wis and ros are the same archetype

[odd sky]

hg break archetype all the time now
our preconceived notion of them is obsolete

[maiden ravine]

new anni this reset?

[stuck wigeon]

btw does anyone still use chalter, ever?

[ancient lintel]

they open almost every anni this week iirc

[quick jolt]

shes still fine tbh. and her upcoming 2nd mod is actually pretty significant for her

[slim tusk]

too expensive for uh not so impressive performance

[shadow bay]

is3 starter when tired of the newer ops

ig I would use her soon as garrison unit

[quick jolt]

-8 dp cost, and iirc ~800 dph increase on skill?

[ancient lintel]

its time to first clear everything and get that sweet

[stuck wigeon]

she do be quite expensive as a starter unit, 32 cost is a lot

[stuck wigeon]

i guess its less bad with that module

[quick jolt]

shes at least cheaper than wis now 🥹

[fiery canopy]

[stuck wigeon]

and can hit air without skill

[quick jolt]

so true, with her 2 damage

[turbid ocean]

Chalters module honestly pushes her into good tier

But such heavy investment

[quick jolt]

i agree but i didnt know if thats a hot take

[stuck wigeon]

dam since when chalter is 2 damage

[quick jolt]

okay, maybe 3 damage

[stuck wigeon]

she used to be compared to silverash, is silverash 1 damage now?

[oak shale]

Chalter is only good tier now? Wtf

[turbid ocean]

She was pretty mid like 3 months ago

until new mod dropped

[stark gulch]

SA is like 1.5 damage with module i think

[quick jolt]

and on globally currently not even, until she gets that mod

[oak shale]

Wild. She was arguably best unit in the game when I last played

[turbid ocean]

but "good" isn't good enough for this chat lol

[stuck wigeon]

well at least SA has that passive utility

[quick jolt]

yeah idt that module is gonna make people here recommend building her still

[slim tusk]

modded sa with exu s3 ril

[fiery canopy]

sash mod + trag car tech

[oak shale]

Well when you have wis and exu2 I get why

[stark gulch]

any future use for lemuen s2? trying to figure out if i should give it masteries

[quick jolt]

no, not rly

[turbid ocean]

Silverash also does 3 damage

[quick jolt]

i genuinely dont see the point in using lemuen s2 ever

[stuck wigeon]

when you want to fuck over that one guy over there

[turbid ocean]

They have a differnce in like what? 150 DPH but chalter does have mild def shred

[stark gulch]

its good for this event but that was about it, i havent found any other use for it

[quick jolt]

s3 was good for this event too. s3 kills the boss in one cycle

[stuck wigeon]

its also just passive 90 aspd and atk buff

[turbid ocean]

S2 is only shilled for low end clear

[stark gulch]

yea but s2 is easier to use cuz you dont have to worry about lemuen nuking a bird

[turbid ocean]

and when you go low end

you work with whatever

her problem with s3 on low end is that phase 1 and phase 2 are immediate

[stark gulch]

but w/e ill just do some other mastery, doesnt seem like its worth

[quick jolt]

atleast you can be certain that bird is definitely dead

[fiery canopy]

lemuen s2 can lanehold

[stuck wigeon]

imma be real i m3ed her s2 before s3
(because i didnt clear 15-9 then)

[stark gulch]

true

[quick jolt]

i simply waited until cert reset to m3 her s3

[warm scarab]

is myrtle the only good flag?

[stuck wigeon]

i used her to hold 2 lanes in first guard chip stage

[quick jolt]

no, shes actually the worst one. flags generally just arent worth building and myrtle does what you need from them perfectly fine

[oak shale]

Is saileach the best?

[fiery canopy]

ely max pot is better than saileach isnt it

[quick jolt]

no

[warm scarab]

so i just use her for dp but not invest on her?

[fiery canopy]

[ancient lintel]

e1 sl7 and leave her be

[signal dragon]

E1 level 1 skill level 7 is fine

[warm scarab]

alr imma get her first adios

[stuck wigeon]

imma be real i have all the flags and just use myrtle anyway cuz i m3ed her s1 and cant be bothered wasting mats on s1 for other flags

[quick jolt]

i m3'd her s1 then got elysium pot6 and m3'd him too because hes cuter

[turbid ocean]

well yeah for the sake of most players myrtle is enough

[stuck wigeon]

i m3ed elysium's s2

[turbid ocean]

but that doesn't mean the other flags isn't better

[formal shadow]

I got sail m6, surely I also get mody for ccb4 :clueless:

[signal dragon]

we mald 880 together

[quick jolt]

is 880 max

[stuck wigeon]

to be fair myrtle was my emergency first e2 back during old cc#1 so i could borrow e2 saria
and all my other flags are just as old, i haven't invested into them in years

[formal shadow]

4 sui core is ass though

[quick jolt]

surely i will do 880 despite having no sui

[lone valley]

No 4sui in 2026

[formal shadow]

-# also I got no pulls for tragodia

[signal dragon]

does ccb4 have attack speed risk btw?

[hexed adder]

not having all flags m6, fake brag

[formal shadow]

yeah pretty sure that's why agents aren't used

got destroyed by the -aspd

[ember spear]

As a newish player, should I spend my sanity consumables on auto completing the highest stage I can on the event to complete the shop?

[stuck wigeon]

even cantible? her skill is ammo based

[formal shadow]

doesn't matter it's dp based per hit, takes too long

[quick jolt]

aspd affects ammo too

[lethal chasm]

130 pulls saved so far

[cloud void]

would warfarin's blood angel combo work with exualter as well?

[turbid ocean]

You wouldn't even use cantabile S2 in CC anyways

You'd want S1 to pump out more DP in a period

[stuck wigeon]

i meant as the skill doesn't run out faster, you get the same dp, but i understand, its just faster with an actual dp gen skill

[hexed adder]

Use the one that expire in 7 days

[slim tusk]

same dp,takes longer.deadge

[stable shuttle]

is archetto s1 m3 worthy?

[ember spear]

alr thx!

[turbid ocean]

Exu2 benefits from it very well but
in most situations you aren't playing for just one operator on your team

[quick jolt]

just s3 if you're using in IS iirc

[stable shuttle]

oke ty

[formal shadow]

don't forget there's sp risks as well

[cloud void]

true that but still +60% atk is still kinda crazy m8

[quick jolt]

usually its just unnecessary

[cloud void]

well for 15 seconds atleast

[turbid ocean]

Its +90% on M3

[stuck wigeon]

60? no mastery?

[turbid ocean]

Exu S2 is dumped out in 14 seconds, its enough time

But few situations where its necessary

[quick jolt]

i think vector is literally the first time ive bothered using it and it isnt even necessary there either

[turbid ocean]

Idk what your account looks like, but like 95% sure you won't benefit from it over having another DPS

[oak shale]

Exu2 module worth maxing or am I wasting resources

[cloud void]

haven't sadly, my sanity is being drained because of e2'ing certain operators

[quick jolt]

its worth it but lvl1 is good enough for most situations
you should do it eventually when you can

[turbid ocean]

well you may haveo ther things to prioritize

but it is worth it

[hexed adder]

U e2 warf for mastery yea, after ur prio ofc

[latent berry]

who to choose in 5s recruitment new player?

[turbid ocean]

not the same guy

[oak shale]

I'll go for it then. I don't have many units to build right now

[loud nimbus]

I feel a bit weird being in here often but- What's a good IS? So far my experiences with all of them have been....negative.

[fiery canopy]

is5

[oak shale]

If it makes you feel better I like having you here

[ancient lintel]

IS5
lamp of wishes go brrrrrrr

[hexed adder]

Is4

[stuck wigeon]

doesn't lamp need a lot of tree unlocks?

[fiery canopy]

not really

[ancient lintel]

not really

[hexed adder]

Blue print very close if u meant that

[sour tide]

is she good?

[fiery canopy]

shes broken !

[cinder hearth]

Good for yellow certs

[vague lintel]

is it still impossible to get 3 support operators with 252?

[fiery canopy]

its possible but youd have lower lvl factories

[stuck wigeon]

you can do 252 with maxed right, its not a big deal

[cinder hearth]

252 remains superior even with a maxed right side of the base.

[turbid ocean]

It is impossible without lowering production permanently yes

[cinder hearth]

For optimized 252 yeah you can't raise it.

[oak shale]

Between narantuya, ines, ejyalter, thorns, and mountain, what should my module priority be?

I'm thinking ines

[fiery canopy]

ines is fine modless

[stuck wigeon]

why?

[quick jolt]

naran prob

[maiden thunder]

Narantuya mod1>thorns mod delta 2

[oak shale]

Ok naran it is

[oak shale]

Delta is the triangle?

[vapid anchor]

Is 243 better than 252 maxed right if you have a lot of 3 operator combos?

[quick jolt]

243 is almost never better

[vapid anchor]

So even if you have like all the 3 op combos including the Automation team that wouldn’t work in a 252 max right?

[leaden quiver]

which one should I pick? its my first time seeing this tag

[stuck wigeon]

mmm a 5*

[severe crypt]

Automation works in 252 tho, I’m literally using it

[signal dragon]

automation, pinus, what's the third team?

[severe crypt]

I use karlan but I’m guessing we’re focusing on factory teams

[signal dragon]

I misread

[stuck wigeon]

looks like emergency mode icon

[vapid anchor]

Vermiel EXP, Bryo Gold team

Just kinda curious cause there seems to be quite a bit 3 op teams, not to mention automation is stronger in 243 than 252

[torn galleon]

Ohh

[turbid ocean]

Catastrophe is a epoch in IS5

[severe crypt]

Smooth one Suraj

[balmy panther]

it's either the emergency mode or the extra spikes epoch

[turbid ocean]

Oh

thats emergency yes

Blind

[severe crypt]

Are we assuming completely max right 252?

[vapid anchor]

Yes

[stuck wigeon]

i feel smart

[severe crypt]

252 max right has 2 three op factories, so both vermeil and bryo would work there, no?

Or was it only 1 three op

[stuck wigeon]

assuming lvl 2 tp proviso

[fast hornet]

genuinely what happened to red numbers
how much damage do you have to do to get them now cause the only red numbers ive seen post sashalter is exu2 and wisadel

[severe crypt]

If we’re maxing out then we should consider that yeah

[leaden quiver]

senior op + crowd control here?

[signal dragon]

would go supporter for shamare if you don't have her

[vapid anchor]

Yea it’s 2 lvl 3 factories assuming proviso

But that still means you can only have two 3 op teams instead of 4

[loud nimbus]

Personally, I think that's the worst one. I've been told so much about how easy it is, but like most IS, it just kinda feels awful. And I play roguelikes, IS is terrible as a roguelike.

[fierce needle]

how many tiles can pramanix alt t1 cover when her s2 is active?

[signal dragon]

just rotate them

[stuck wigeon]

you have to rotate teams tho, two teams per factory

[severe crypt]

It makes is5 easy to farm but don’t say is5 is easy until you’ve done d15+ ed4/5

[leaden quiver]

is shamare in this list?

[viral oak]

need atk_scale attacks/skills for it to appear, heck 0 red number exists

[vapid anchor]

It’s still lower uptime assuming if you have Mlynar who can make them work 36 hours

Also Vermiel can work 60 hours

[stuck wigeon]

support =/= supporter

[ancient lintel]

it's pretty easy to speedrun it though, just refresh node constantly, you also have wis, just get tactical ranged squad or blueprint squad, get lamp of wishes and refresh node for wish fullfilled until you get full king's set + hand of rumble

[leaden quiver]

ohh okay thank you

[fast hornet]

no in the new cn update it seems like the atk scale threshold got increase or something since degen was doing nothing

[severe crypt]

Maybe the folks at #r-i-i-c can help elucidate you

[viral oak]

ah beats me then

[stuck wigeon]

inb4 you get glaucus

[severe crypt]

Or tsukinogi

[fiery canopy]

tag drops

[stuck wigeon]

senior tag drops, you get orchid

[pseudo flume]

I mean they don't really drop when on 9 hours

[stuck wigeon]

i've had plenty of regular tag drops on 9 hours

[pseudo flume]

If it was back then using the 7:40 strat then it will definitely drop

[stuck wigeon]

when a combo would guarantee a 4* but then it fucking drops

[pseudo flume]

Thats a 4★ you see

[maiden thunder]

We were too harsh on her,now hadiya takes her throne

[cinder hearth]

Toilet seat throne

[severe crypt]

I’m ootl is she that bad

[pseudo flume]

Top or Senior Operator will never drop at 9 Hours

[maiden thunder]

85 dp for 1755 dph

[cinder hearth]

Like 550 base atk and regular aspd.

[pseudo flume]

If it's a combination of 2 tags that isn't those but gives a 5 star then it will have a chance of dropping

[stuck wigeon]

well that's good, hope they set it to 9 hours then

[severe crypt]

Damn

[cinder hearth]

Marksman sniper looking ahh DpH.

[stuck wigeon]

yeah i think that happened to me two weeks ago

[severe crypt]

Did they get an intern to create the kit

[pseudo flume]

Is this the new Snow Hunter op?

[fiery canopy]

they are trying their best please understand !

[maiden thunder]

It's a good E1 for newbies

[pseudo flume]

Wait who is Hadiya then?

[cinder hearth]

Her s1 is afk which means she's the goat

[severe crypt]

But not like grace or tequila?

[maiden thunder]

An interesting things is that if her s2 kills something her talent will go attack another target in ranged so her talent isn't waste

[cinder hearth]

Merc guard.
You pay her, she becomes less useless.

[signal dragon]

the guard that eats dp

[pseudo flume]

Oh

[cinder hearth]

Imagine if figurino was a guard.

[pseudo flume]

I'll take the Hunter instead

[stuck wigeon]

that's just a merchant with extra steps

[maiden thunder]

Below teq,grace,la pluma but a good E1 nonetheless

[pseudo flume]

A merchant that doesn't constantly embezzle your hard earned money

[silver smelt]

are instant e2 packs worth it

[cinder hearth]

Now she just launders it

[silver smelt]

or are the sanity/$ too disproportionate compared to other packs

[stuck wigeon]

if im bringing a merchant i know what im doing, why would i bring a guard that wants extra payment

[maiden thunder]

Up to you I really only recommend monthly card

[pseudo flume]

@ember pine is it fine to share that pack spreadsheet you have?

[silver smelt]

i do have theh pack math sheet open

[pseudo flume]

Ohhhh

[silver smelt]

what's the opinion on 30$ selector for logos

[pseudo flume]

Pretty good tbh

At least its someone you'd actually use 24/7 and not fuckass Carnelian

[stuck wigeon]

mmm selectors are quite interesting to buy indeed

[maiden thunder]

Her DP is 10 and each time you spend DP on her skills she gets atk from her talent,each time u pay her skill it will cost 15 dp and her talent is able to stack up to 5 times this will comes out to 75+10=85 dp for a whooping total of 1755 DpH at e2 lvl 80 m3s2

[silver smelt]

yea i mean the thing is im not entirely sure if id use logos 24/7 seeing what my roster desperately needs isnt dps but blockers

[quick jolt]

wow this is really good sounds like the new best 5star

[mighty smelt]

🥹

[pseudo flume]

Um, can't I just plop down Mountain or Chongyue for cheaper and they'd do more damage that whatever she's doin

[lone valley]

I mean, u get more dps = no enemies to be blocked

[silver smelt]

i did just spend like 3 hours on damazti cluster the other day so

[stuck wigeon]

or i could just bring an actual guard that costs 25 and deals 1700 dph off rip

[pseudo flume]

Tbh Lapluma is cheaper than her overall and she's doing pretty fine

[quick jolt]

dont worry the 6star will be broken

[pseudo flume]

inb4 its the new sui smh

[worthy ember]

Which Irene Mod is used More Skill Damage or Def Ignore?

[balmy panther]

6star do more damage than 5stars
more news at 8

[maiden thunder]

Skill damage lvl 1

[quick jolt]

oh god, next limited announced will be sui already

[pseudo flume]

That's just a joke smh

[quick jolt]

what if u willed it into existance 🥹

[pseudo flume]

Do I look like some Prophet to you 🚬

[fiery canopy]

🔮

[stuck wigeon]

you know, it does fit into another sui sibling being a fucking gambler and wasting your money for some bullshit strong effects

[pseudo flume]

Oh ya hows the low rarity blast caster

[quick jolt]

what do u think 💀

[balmy panther]

next Sui will either be Wang or Jie or the Doctor brother

[pseudo flume]

Im hoping for something on the level of Pinecone or Cutter 🚬

[maiden thunder]

Silvergun says she fine for a 4* obvs that also includes max investment for general people,yeah she is bad

[balmy panther]

every blast caster not named ifrit will be bad

[stuck wigeon]

they have to contend with ifrit, there is no winning that

[pseudo flume]

A man can dream ok 🥀

[balmy panther]

because surprise
-44% Res carries the unit, not the range

[quick jolt]

40 fucking res shred

[muted edge]

After I build proviso; which therapist do I build?

[pseudo flume]

None

[fiery canopy]

purestream is already good enough for a therapist if u need one

[rose mist]

Guys what will do if Endfiled is too peak. I can't juggle 2 gachas

[stuck wigeon]

you have purestream already

[pseudo flume]

Don't raise them because you already raised Purestream

[balmy panther]

are those your only medics or did you filter by therapist?

[muted edge]

I filtered

[pseudo flume]

Better send that to #off-topic or #arknights

[quick jolt]

just stick with purestream

[turbid ocean]

keep it to Arknights gameplay questions, endfield is considered #off-topic

its not #arknights

[rose mist]

Oh crap I did not notice I was in the help channel mb

[shadow bay]

did they fix is5 for certain devices recently??? early floors not laggy anymore

[pseudo flume]

It is, if you send Thornification edit of the endministrator

[quick jolt]

it was broken?

[pseudo flume]

Was IS5 broken?

[shadow bay]

kinda??? frame drop was awful, presumably, to lower end devices

[pseudo flume]

Ohhhh

[stuck wigeon]

i might have to actually try is5 to check

[turbid ocean]

oh that sounds like engine things

no one had that issue

[chrome tiger]

IS5 is jank by design

[shadow bay]

thats atleast to f1 and f2... f3 onwards works just fine

[muted edge]

Wait….so I don’t even build a single extra medic unless I want to use them for base or unlock lore files?

[quick jolt]

thank god is5 broke instead of a good gamemode

[turbid ocean]

You don't need to build operator of every archetype mate

Therapist is one of the most dead branches

[quick jolt]

you build operators for their individual kits

[hallow raft]

You already got plenty of healers

[stuck wigeon]

you have more medics than you will realistically use

[nimble kite]

Eh, you don't, lol.
Same for every class. In lowend terms, Ansel/Sussuro is basically enough for everything.

[ancient lintel]

mon3tr + tea apple sauce is probably more than enough ngl

[arctic hawk]

Did they mention low end?

[muted edge]

Both ends actually

[ancient lintel]

mon3tr for buffing and ptil as SP battery, both can burst heal pretty well too

[stuck wigeon]

there are some edge cases requiring NG but you're already set

[turbid ocean]

Wouldn't build anyone else,
If anything purestream is the best value because of 4* cost

[lone valley]

Its always mid ptilo sp gen point

[turbid ocean]

always

make it sound like their util is their main strength

[muted edge]

….so basically what I’m getting at is like 90% of all casters/medics are basically either unoptimized or too weak over the remaining 10%?

[turbid ocean]

Uh

[quick jolt]

that really goes for all classes ?

[turbid ocean]

Its in porportion to all operators in teh game

Not just within their classes

[stuck wigeon]

the only reason to build most units is nicheknights

[slim tusk]

shu sp battery is used on cc bit no one glazing it smh