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S3 for lemuen?
Any ideas on who i should e2 next?
Vigil is really terrible but he's so close to E2 that you may as well commit
Everyone on that team is a bad op, even for male knights tbh
40% tp, expensive but decent proviso slave
Any mastery breakpoints or do I just m3
3
His e2 is tp? Krazy
i guess if thats the case i might start farming orundum, i guess ill look up how to do that
Yeah but you need office lv3 iirc
Or rr idr
Not recommended but there’s a guide in #r-i-i-c pins, check that

Texas and Chen.
But also get ela and exu mods asap
i get its not recommended but i should have everyone upgraded and i should have plenty of stuff for the future operators i want (tragodia, SA alter... well thats it
)
RR yeah
25% +5% for each level
i missed thorns alter and yu because i didnt play then 
I figured, just wanted to give the usual disclaimer lol
Any info on hol IS module?
Not until release
i could work on some niche modules but idk
ho'ol is getting an IS module?
Yeah
yes!!! I'm coping on it being good
i hope its good i rly want to use her more
Do we know date for cn release?
1st
Anyone got Hoshiguma I can borrow?
the module will be insane, trust!!
looks inside
dusk mod level
Praying Gnosis mod is good
Hoshi alt mod res shred 🙏
:(
You need 4 block or high DEF? Mines only high DEF.
Not if I didn't unlock it
Hoshi borrow? Weirdge
saileach or myrtle
Shortie
What saileach pot?
M3 s2 or s3 for Ines
2
ah she needs pot?
For upcoming CC yes
wb normal stages
Take shorty
Don't really need flags for normal stages anymore 
alr ty
Exu being 13 actually a vanguard powercreep
Combination of low op cost and stages being slower 
yall which is the better zuo le mod
modX
The one that gives him more sp, as they say if he dies once, he'll die again. There are some arkrec clears with the other one due to higher DPH, but survival usually better with X cause sooner skill.
Well I just need to beat mt-s-3 and someone recommended I use them
Ah, to tank the snipers... Yu S1 works better me think
with this roster you always get ascalon from selector right
Mt s 3 is solo's by eblana so 
Damn haha I don't even know how to do that level but I'll try it out
Its either yes or dont buy it
Anyone got a Yu I could borrow lol
Either asca or nymph. Asca will be useful in the upcoming IS, unlike nymph who I mostly use in is3 to stall the knight
Nymph when tragodia 
She can still push them into zones with no deployable tiles, but yeah tragodia has infinitely more options.
$30
Neither is worth it, so I'd say don't, but it's their money. If they wanna keep the game alive I support that.
aoe for ⁵⁰/₅₀ ifrit mosti imo
Who am I hoping for ifrit or mosti?
What would be the best units in the vector events banners to select, I really want degen and reed alt, who to choose besides that, i have like 380 pulls rn
BBQ
You skip 
Guys could you pls remind me what’s to not level up in the base, it’s the office and what else?
Ray
Mosti has global slow, ifrit is still the best res reducer in the game. Both have a niche.
Reception
even if I have exu2 and lemuen, they do fill similar roles
She's still the best pick
both are pretty niche tbh, either is fine
ifrit is for res shred
mostima is for movement speed reduction
We got mostima
Then ur not supposed to have ur support units?

Idk who you have. Should probably skip anyway
Lv2 is fine
Ok i was asking cause there was a mission to get Texas
It's a trap
Does Attack speed have any affect on Exu alt S2?
I see
oki, she needs high investment so if you're relatively new you can leave her till later
Bye yellow cert
alright thanks, i shall think about it ( horn is pretty cool and so is thorns alt but i heard he is mid as hell )

So is horn
Yeah Im a returning player I’m focusing on e3 a few skills right now
@hallow swift based pfp
But seeing that tag was a jump scare
Thanks you too 
I mean, well ye?
Its in her skill itself so
Guys what’s the main incoming source of yellow certs?
Should i build qiubai for IS
Pulling and recruitment
4 star from recruitment?
I see thanks
That and just pulling a ton
It’s insane how I think I get more 6 stars from pulling then 5 stars from recruit and I always check the tag combos 😂
It’s not very insane
Ig
Lmao
How much health did u have
1
shields don't count towards king relics dw
Then shudt of
What do I do now
Kill the boss 
I mont3red it
Yes I think so. Have wisadel dps the boss for any shred of hope
Oh you have monster 
is S3 the best for Texas Alter?
Free win
Sure
Which skill should I use on Shu?
3
Honestly, nah
3 for sure on Shu
saria goes for modY yeah?
seems like its better overall for her tankiness and the healing isnt too far from modX
a sentient, self-thinking person??!
Yes she uses modY1
I've got a 10 pull for the kernal banner from the beginner log in event any recommendations on who to select for the 6 star units?
was looking at my inventory and forgot I had it lol
nvm found the recs in the pins lol
is the polyester farm on the tragodia event any good?
yes
Do two lvl 3 facs generate enough gold for proviso
It’s an event tier 3 farm. Yes it’s good 
is this a good team? I just got to chapter 8 and it feels good, but I think I could change some things on it, just not sure what
What about two lvl 3s and one lvl 2?
Is there any way to get more 4* ops than 3* ops from recruitment? I read something about 7:40 having a higher probability of recruiting a 4* op than 9:00, but I don't know if it's true
Get zuo le and logos modules asap, but yeah looks good
That’s insane cope.
Only way besides luck is to just be sure not to accidental neglect 4+ star tabs
3 is generally enough, depending workers
Yep and the rec is to not pick on this specific banner
Mm so the third one being lvl 2 is enough with e1 4* base slaves?
Yeah mt-s-3 is impossible haha
Bro has to come back and shit on dude using free pulls on relatively decent kernel locating 🚬
I got zuo le's module and im trying to level it rn
Stop blogging


Is jj up? Ig I'll ask him later if he's not online rn
ask him what? It just depends. I don’t have enough info to answer you and neither would he
it would depend on your factory workers, could ask riic
Okay, thx anyways 
Well I said tho 4* e1 workers the basic ones newbies have usually, ig I'll take this to #r-i-i-c thx suraj
Okay yeah but we don’t now your TPs nor the other 2 factories. The only info that tells us is like, +50% on the level 2
Well it's a proviso quartz tp lvl 2 the other preset is a generic one
The lvl 3 tp is a catapult midnight gummy for preset one for preset two it's a e0 Jaye Texas and lappland
Space is right, three gold facs are needed. Which levels they are on depends on both the Proviso's partner and the ops in the gold facs
Mm okay tbh it's not for me it's for my gfs acc I'm asking here cuz Idk what I'm doing when it comes to base set ups ngl
you can also just check your report card and see how much lmd your gold fac produce and how much lmd you're actually producing to see how large the deficit is
The other day jj was nice enough to make one for me which I really appreciate btw 🥹
Mm okay ig we'll do that and just follow the sheet for now
2nd pin in #r-i-i-c works if you want to calc the exact production, you need to manually set it up but that's it
You need to match gold made vs gold traded, taking into account that you get about 10 gold per day on average for logging in and friend shop.
So if you trade 120 gold on average, you want to try to be making 110, etc
Closer to 100 is probably okay if you have tequila e2 but yeah that’s more details
Should the first thing I do is to rush my research base?
iirc tequila needs shamare right?
Okay tysm space and jj💗
you're welcome 
Not necessarily first, you need to progress story to unlock the cc levels, but it’s important.
Check /base in #bot-spam and check some of the links included
u want ur base built as soo as possible for passive income yeh
and it is ur main source of lmd and exp
The lmd and exp stages are not worth doing?
Btw is the vermil team better for gold or exp
nope
cost way too much sanity, while give little
and if u think about it, u also need to use sanity to farm other things
sanity is better spent for better things
Ah damn I should have asked before spending like 1K sanity over there..
just think u farm ur capital so u can invest to something more 
if you're using only noir corne/cuora and beanstalk you can use it for both depending on your needs
for "high end" combo you'll want to use it for exp
Better for exp, you have strong and cheap team members like click, you can pair her with beanstalk for like 85% or so
oh w8 nvm u come from there... uhhh... peeps asleep atm try later
and i have list full
Okay thx a lot
it's better for high end simply because there are better partners for exp than gold
and even for gold one of the best is nara that requires dorms level, feasible only for xx3 setup
I wouldn’t recommend anyone e2 miss Christine, but if they did, her trag and vermeil is very strong for exp
they certainly saved ticket for her usage in base, right? 🥹
Is it worth it to get sankta mixer (event operator) to pot 5?
should try to max pot him for rerun
worth to get because on rerun it will get converted into gold certs
but this apply to all welfare ops that are debutting
geexu should keep aspd stolen even if ops she stolen retreated yeh?
Ok thank you
yeah, it ends when skill ends though (obv)
neat tnx
am trying to get 400 kills on annihilation 3 but need specific support units, how do i friend people in order to use those specific units?
ask/look in #friend-id
What does special action mean when selecting an assistant for your home screen
certainly it must be sth special (idk what it is)
If you're looking at the support units on the borrow screen, you click on the unit, and you'll see a "add friend" button towards the top
Otherwise it's add friend => username#4numbers
Current team, haven't opened the free 5star selectors yet, any changes I should make?
would ditch vigna, reed cause bad archetype
weedy niche
can swap Amiya for click or Stewart
would add kroos
check pins for newbie vouchers
vigna for gravel? and then drop reed for kroos?
can swap Ansel and hibiscus for ptilo and silence
add lappland
add tequila and kroos alt when you get them
uh gravel is kinda situational you usually just bring her when you need her
there's a newbie squad building infographic in pins too
Reed is also just terrible tbh
I went through that, just trying to not brick my acc
Is sankta miksaparato worse than a 5*? I know he's a bad 6* but just wanna know out of curiosity
dw it's hard to brick an account

same situation as Lumen, he's better but not cost effective
Is archetto worth getting through certs for her IS module?
spending the senior operator transfer permit for lapp, and op voucher for ptil?
there is hardly any 6* worse than a lower rarity
at most you'd level bad ops and not have resources to level good ops for a couple days
uh just follow the infographic, I think the ptilo voucher is a couple of days later
wait yeah there is another one, ptilo and lapp are on that
i dont understand how theres some people that can level 90 all their units, i feel like no matter how much i farm i can only afford to level 60 80% of my guys (just as an unnecessary question). unless i start whaling for energy i feel like im missing something?
they have base built and rich enough to casually lvl 90 someone... which is mostly the older players
thats it.... ig they light spender that includes the lvl 1 to lvl 90 voucher... but eh
where to
ga is guide ahead
look in side stories
iirc under "the blessed"
guide ahead, it can wait till after the event ends though
Nomnom side story tab doesn’t exist 🥹
also whats the benefit of 200% trust for ops?
I think it’s under “the blessed” section, no?
what's the diff betewen a kernal token and regular token
All trust voicelines unlocked, and anyone borrowing your op gets full trust stats
aside from some lore bits unlocked to some ops
when someone borrow the ops, they have full stats from trust points
trust stats? wait so if I get them to 200 trust I get free permanent stats?
regular token exchange to gold cert
kernel exchange to kernel(blue) certs
trust stats max at 100%
but when borrowing trust is halved
should i just use them either way, or should I save them? is it just from different banners
Can you compare dps between lvl 60 and 90 with the graph bot? I'm curious what diff it makes on sash and lemuen
Bruh I gave up trying to do mt-s-3 and just started farming main story to get more originite for next banner. Finally have about 110 pulls
u should use em to ur operators potentials since u have no use to them other than that
the spares(when someone is at max pot) should be used to convert to certs
ideally u should mostly have regular certs, since ur not supposed to pull kernel
had that free 10 pull from login that's why 
if i already have my main roster build is it worth it to e2 kroos alter?
yeh except the free kernel pulls... u not supposed to spend premium currency to kernel
nwnw I didn't
Is this enemy bugged in mt-s-2 CM?
Spot is holding 2 of these enemies and a sniper (to some extent) with hibiscus heal skill in the back.
Each one of these enemies deal like 5 hits and all of a sudden Spot gets oneshot with 1k-1.3k hp
Are challenge modes worth doing on the Masses event because I've only done the regular one on every level, not the challenge one
sure but still depends
who are ur other list to e2?
Do you not like originite prime 
we only do it for
and... ig medal 
none, just kroos alter 
Lmao true. But up to what challenge mode should I do because I heard they are difficult
i mean yeh sure... that s2m3 krooster gonna kick something more
If you can I would, op is eventually a finite resource
Doing it now costs 15-25 sanity while earning it in a cpl years could cost you 180+ sanity?
You do it up until you can’t do no more
as far as u can?
its free cancer stones 
cancer stones when it cure my gambling addiction 
Cures? Will you ever be free of it?
he plays other gachas so no
how do I brick my account
You can't, really
pulling kernel is the closest thing I can think of
Guaranteed 5 star every banner and kernel, yeah

Saving for half a year just to spark wis 
check mine and you'll see how
should I buy furniture in sweat dream hall?
❓
sure but focus on everything else first
if you can buy it it's nice since it's purple certs on rerun in 1 year
Oh is that what the shop is called
sweet, not sweat, but ye
how does one maximize the output of the base towards this goal
Ah exodia
me
will this event rerun like the others?
The masses travel? Yes, only vignette/mini events don’t rerun
also are decorations worth buying like certs or just focus on manganese?
Does gladia particularly benefit from any masteries? I'm mainly using her for her module, but I'll grab a mastery if it has any particular uses
furniture? yes if you buy it now you'll get purple certs during rerun
If ur only using her as an ulpi medic not really, if you’re inclined for masteries, s3 for crowd control, s2 for damage, s1 for afk
You want to buy everything except for the lower module materials and furniture parts. Rerun gives you extra goodies if you have everything bought
35/70 gold certs depending on the welfare rarity, and a bunch of intel certs used to buy orundum/materials
Do swalter coins count as ammo
Don't think so
no
Kk
No

where can i check how much atk an op has a set level
aceship, link should be in pins
Alter is decent, guard Ch'en is booty
Should I promote Ines first, or should I focus on Exu2's module?
Do you guys recc locking an op in dorms for morale boost or no?
Unless they have a specific purpose (WP/IP) then no
Do we know when next lemuen banner is or nah
i only lock fia to free myself on hassle digging to her
but even at l1 dorms, morale recov are 🚮
Nah
Rule 5.
Damn, more time to save I guess
i know
in far future
as to exactly when... i also dunno
she wont get a solo rateup banner ever thats for sure
building all the 4*s, which is chestnut's better skill?
What about the gold certs
gonna be 2+ years
S1
S2 looks awful
That's the funny thing, they're both trash
I can't think of a single situation where i'd want chestnut over another 4* medic
Especially when purestream is right there
yeh now that i see it, s2 is trash...
did he just have his range to an ifrit one??? 
oh wtf S1 is just a normal heal
their elemental healing is that pitiful?
Fuck I guess I have to hope for some type of 6star selector in one of those paid bundles next year
anyway even on berries his healing is... so underwhelming even if u don't expect on it given he is a 4 star
selector in a year should have her
Well, yes he's a 4*, and the issue is that his actual healing is hot garbage
4 stars players just use purestream instead and tank the elem burst
there's situations where chestnut will prevent the elem burst, but fail to keep the operator alive anyway
I seeeeeee. so I build him to look good in the collection and not to use.
s1 is basically just an animation reset
chestnut to cope quillon healing for some reason u dont pick pure or much better ones 
Heals per second - skill active/skill down/averaged
Chestnut P6 S2 ModX3: 378/164/235
Purestream P6 S1 ModY3: 2284/190/305
Purestream P6 S2 ModY3: 954/190/415
That is so much worse than I expected. i feel so sorry for this guy, he's useless useless
Is it fine to aim for Weedy?
Well, he'll get a pity M3 just so he doesn't feel left out from the other 4*s. enjoy the shelf dork.
👍
sure if u wanna net on the guranteed
suzuran would be the higher priority though, but then again she is on the gamble side
Sure, it's the best here imo
You can consider suzuran too, but that's not guaranteed, so i would go for weedy anyway
so all this chestnut pity is because I'm working on finishing to clean up the 4*s, all E2M3 and I can not believe i don't have a mastery on my girl Shaw yet. I've failed
Ok, i hope the tag won't drop
x or y
just checking, so exu2 with Lv60, Mod3, and 100% Trust would have 802 ATK and would thus be doing 802*300% = 3208 DPH with S2?
y1 if you must
802*300% is 2406
ah right typod 4 instead of 3 
wait i forgot to account for the 18% atk so 802*1.18 = 946.36, so 2839 DPH?
next on the list, Indigo, S2 is better right? it triggers the bind.
u use s2 coz its better with how her kit is and s1 is trash
u don't use mystic caster s1
they're all the same
(ok fine i've heard of ONE harmonie s1 usecase)
lucky harmony 
What do I wanna mastery for exu alt?
s2
what skill(s) to m3 for p5 apple pie?
edit: nvm i saw the above message
No new banner alt, no wisadel, no leizi alt, no degen in account
Silverash s3m3 mod 3
Mlynar mod 1 or mod 3 or no mod?
Mod 3
Is Sankta Miksaparato good/decent? And if so, which skill?
Mid, not really worth raising
Mid and expensive to build, not worth it
Is there a recruit/ headhunt guide for newbie? Also any codes and who I should get from operator voucher and senior operator transfer permit?
no codes :)
o
check pins for voucher guides, and save your pulls. an upcoming very broken operator is coming soon.
Question: Out of these 3. Who is worth the most?
True. But was wondering since it's a possible option.
hoe only has his IS niche and for nymph, well tragodia is the only answer you need.
I don't understand the tragodia.
nymph is a stallbot with her s2, however tragodia fills the same role while being much better.
Ah. Okay. Thank you very much for answering my question.

Tragodia is standard banner op right?
ya
yes
Is hoe still good in future IS or he is only good at IS5?
2 yrs after his banner debut
only is5, you cant really farm relics in is6 iirc.
although is6 expansion might change that or is7 so theres a chance.
Only for IS5
He is ass elsewhere
Getting him will prob be a dream then 😭
i mean every is6 run ends with 50+ relics
but he's still ass because ur not guaranteed aspd
There is a chance of getting him, a year after debut banner, rerun banner
Hahaha

Dang I'm missing all these too
New player here, not too sure what to grind or focus on
- Am I supposed to just focus heavily on clearing story stages or try to get all my units to a certain standard before doing anything?
main focus should be building your base, which will require advancing story stages, yes
you should be clearing the event
The Masses?
yes have you bought out the store?
Nope
well get to work
I'm out of DRONES
how good is Arturia right now?
not
damn
I need to decide between sparking her or texalt and I know texalt is the better operator but I really don't care for her as a character unfortunately
Guess I'll have to pick her regardless since I still don't have a fast redeploy and Arturia seems kinda washed
gravel is enough
truth nuke
its a real information btw
ts pmo icl tbh
what's ur question
does e2ing gravel do anything
if youve already sunk the 300pulls, then get texalt. better unit these days, and virt will still be soft rateup during silveralt banner so youve got a non-negligible chance to get her in 6months
better dp refund
o
mod base effect is nice i guess?
not rlly useful for most but it's nice when it matters in some hard content
she did carry me on mt s 5 today unironically lmao
reroll
being the cheapest executor means gravel will continue being useful until eos :ya:

For lemon, is it mod 2 or 3?
2
2 is enough, you just want the +1 skill ammo
which skill of exu alt do u specialize?
So she will have 10 bullets with skill 2?
2
2
3 is also worth it if you have ideas in mind for it
9, she gets 7 (8 with talent) ammo w/o mod
where is this
guide ahead, laterano storyline
guide ahead
is that stage hard?
not particularly, effectively a 1lane map and exualt has the dps to punch through everything there
youll probably have a harder time with the stages before ex-5 than ex-5 itself
I'm tryna build my first team by following the stater squad building infographic. I rerolled for exusiai covenant and lemuen. What roles do they replace?
theyre both ranged phys dps. same category as kroos
how long until I lose the spark from exualter's banner
exu2 is a dps that is able to just hold lanes by herself, lemuen is burst aoe dps
it tells you 
alr ty yall :D
<2 days
theres a giant timer plastered on the shop button 
Hi guys is Pepe good generally? Or not worth building at all
and its not like you can earn any more spark points from the banner, its gone already. just spend the points now
decent if you happen to still need a good laneholder
Her mod is ass right
RA mod actually
wait for her ra mod, the stat gain is kinda ridiculous even outside ra
What? RA mod isn't like IS? It works outside of RA?
no
is/ra mods work the same, talent upgrades wont transfer but base stat boosts will
but you still get the stats outside of RA same with IS mods iirc
Oh the flat stats are just really big? Damn
pretty cracked when these are the stats youre getting 

Exualt what is the best s2 or s3?
2
Okay thanksss
any1 know how to get more reception room furniture? i need to make it laggy as possible

it takes me 2 seconds to fully load all the props in the room but im sure i can do better
looks like you already have everything in there 
all the reception room usable furniture, as many plaques as you can fit on the wall
in the new banner who is good to pick?
ideally no one, there are much better banners to be spending your pulls on coming soon
Tragodia is almost here soo just save for that
oh alright
when's silver ash alter's banner?
It's gonna take a while, since it hasn't even released in CN yet
just revealed in cn, in 6months ish for global
For virtrousa,it's mod 3 ?
would wait for mod y imo, or just dont build at all if youre gonna be pulling tragodia
isnt modx better?
any support unit that i should use for the first stage challenge mode of the new masses travels stages? ive been using yato
zuo le was pretty good for me
mine instantly died to the snipers
oh then borrow mlynar if snipers are ur problem
Is Miksaparato has any good things to consider building him?
ah alright thanks
just use cuora hes too expensive
So there's nothing? Got it
good tank, invis reveal, helps out lemuens damage
very expensive to e2 to have access to all this, consider carefully
Good for scanner alr, thx
Sorry for a stupid question let’s just say I was drunk and now I have e2 greythroat s2m1 what should I do?😅
Can use support. I just did it few weeks ago
finish s2m3 mod3, no balls 
does pity in this game save? like the amount of pulls i did in exu alt banner will transfer to next limited?
Sir yes sir!
on limiteds? no
no, limited banner pity goes away after banner ends
standard pity carries between banners

ok what is lemon useful for when i have wisadel exupie mlynar logos ela etc
your c section is tomorrow sir. please be there on time sir
i feel like i just wasted a buncha lmd and s2m1 on her
lemon s3 is ranged degen s3 or something
lemon s2 have dph similar to ray or something
and i alr beat mt s 5 cm w/o her
why does the boss have to have high defense
basically statstick
welp global range is global range ig
who are these 2?
left: mon3tr
right: kal'tsit
at least i can 3 op h15 4
Please avoid unnecessary media, channel rule 4
Skill specialization is usually just more numbers right. As in higher modifier etc.
sometimes lower sp cost
more starting sp too
Can also affect skill duration
ok wheres the link for cn clears
arkrec
thnx
arkrec works. can also just search on bilibili if youre versed in searching in chinese
I hadn't seen the channel name. Sorry
We dont have 4 star op that reveal invisible enemy right?
he dies with three medics on the field am i doing something wrong
yes u arent killing the ammo reloader medics wait what stage are u doing again
first stage challenge mode of the new ones
mts1
Not reveal but Totter can target invis
what do i do when im out of sanity
play IS or RA or SSS
Gellato machine (red) also refill ammo, just in case u didn't read
activate his skill when the guys helidrop but he should be able to tank that stage just fine
yeah he cant just tank the snipers forever because they have batshit dps with ammo reload
ya gotta spawncamp the snipers or convert and maintain the ice cream dispensers
The point of bringing mlynar is that he will relieve you of deployment order concerns and also burst down the air drop wave + anything else that get in his range
Weedy and Gladiia the only 6 star of their class?
yep
i accidentally built the office is there a way to remove it?
Haha...
Thats fine, just dont upgrade it
U can place office there yeah, room above it would be TR
ok
Also use 2 trading post, add 1 more factory for flex
legendary bottom office 
i am following a old guide called 351
its bad
That's cringe af setup nerd denial on rushing base
if you say so then I will follow /base guide
how long until logos in shop?
1 year minimum
whats pity for 6 star
from 51st pull w/o 6*: chance increased by 2% per new pull until ya get one
Do we have any farming stages for chiral refractors or coag nodules coming up?
Ok, these are all of my Operator's, what Operator's do you recommend me worth getting or one I really need?
Pull prio in the pins
#bot-spam /cnfarm
does this mean we can gold cert monster?
would ines be enough here or should I use another vanguard? I feel like my squads a bit expensive on dp
isnt this banner kinda good? has monster and logos
Gold cert shop is only for the regular 2 ops banner
Coag nodule too low level to show for cnfarm
they always change the orienteering banner for global
if that banner is the same would that banner be good to pull on or na
If u miss the good ones
whats the difference of these being blue and red?
What?
Chat what's the fastest way to farm trust for an op
Blue is allied, red is enemy
blue ones restore your ops sp and red ones restore enemy skills
hit the red ones to make em blue
put them in: riic top floor, acitivity room, a facility
use all your sanity with them
ohh ok ok was confused since red one also said nearby allies. so it refers to enemy allies
guys i have a question. the new exusia figure is out. but i only can find 1 website who sells it. is that normal? the website is called orzgk.com
that guy was trolling when he told you to ask here btw
Putting them at Riic assistant?
And activity room.
Hm.
Does leaving them to work on control center count as a facility 
depends what ops release until then
like the top of RIIC yes
Alright thanks
uh yes control center it self is also a facility
u can send me the link and i'll review it (dm or send elsewhere tho, not here!)
yostar official store not selling it?
so thats 3 things in base basically
Alright time to farm trust for wis ig
idk if trag is before or after that idek banner dates
ok thx . second
Usually HG, yostar never sell smt like this
iirc the yostar store never sells those figures
So yeah 🇨🇳
Does it show all farmable tier 3 mats
did you do /cnfarm...
it shows for as many events it has been updated to
Would I be asking if I didn't do it?
do it on #bot-spam
I wasn't sure if it showed lower tier mats
All of them t3
Thanks
yes it only shows the t3 mats
Is archetto worth getting from certs at all, for her IS module?
U dont farm t4 or above, u craft it
should i wait for ato event or farm 15-9 for jars
not really
only consider if you play is for fun very often and want something new
15-9 has shit rates
Yes I'm aware that's why I asked about the base mats for it
just wait for ato, 15-9 rates are painfully low
i would wait for green certs, if this is for lemuen s3 just grind IS5
have you bought all from parametric shop
is there any better way to get piss jars before Ato? cause basically all of my planners need it 
Aside from what kirin said. Have you opened the event crates? You might get lucky and get those mats you needed
buy with greencerts/parametrics if you havent already
No I thought coag nodules were tier 2
Its because smoll png
at that point you don't farm green anyways
Yeah I just missed it
I've used the m3 card on lemuen s3, but her mod0->mod2 and trag will need 11 prisms in total 
Just look at the circle color next time
is bubble good for base?
wait harder, parashop also updated.if u smh have urgency for them u can cope 15-9 (the droprate not that good btw)
she needs vulcan e2 or something. probably better off using standard 30% efficiency ops
yeah its horrible something like 60 sanity/jar no
yea probably around that, just look at penguin logistics sample
how much does parashop sell?
oh it has infinite jars?
What icons signal to you that lemuen has the elite enemy attack buff and the 20 second deployment attack buff?
Yea if u can afford it, green certs only 10/month
the wanted mark is a red square cross hair, im not sure about the talent +atk buff
the talent atk is when her gun has a white flare
ah okay, was just confused cause the wiki doesnt list jars as available on parashop
wiki could just be outdated, make sure you’re using terra wiki and not fandom wiki as well
Its updated when exu banner release
I see her gun go gold and the target icon appear but the damage falls short because I didn't wait long enough. I wonder if these not related to the talent or they have them appearing to early
for the atk buff
Bought most things in the event shop. Should I spend the rest on Sankta tokens for yellow certs, or Loxic Kohl?
so in theory this should do full damage?
This, right?
ya
you wont get certs when u first buy them during debut only rerun after u got them during debut,yes get sankta pots
that has dmg taken increase + 20s atk buff active
easy way to tell is just to see the atk raise
not updated if its not there
yep that’s the more updated one, though don’t take everything on it as the truth, there is some inaccuracies (and in this case outdated)
aright
Bunch of pages not updated for sure
can't check rn, how much does 2 jars cost? is it 50 as wel, so 500 para for 20 jars?
50 yea t3
at what point did people stop using chalter 
if you can read chinese/bother to translate your web browser, you can use prts.wiki as well
don’t people still use her? it’s not like she’s bottom of the barrel now
Probably the general public
Mlynar got released and chalter fell off
Is this for the CN 6.5th anniv? so global will get it later on too?
Didn't get the damage buff so I'm not sure whats going on
Damage buff or atk buff, those are different
Graphics must not actually line up with the mechanics on Lemuen
Atk buff you can see on her stat
Damage buff is tied to the mark
yes we'll get them later
So the gold glow means nothing related to the atk buff?
Just check if she has increased atk
no news yet on when tragodia banner is?
Usually yeah, for normal items like this
Well yes i can check the attack stat but it seems there is some confusion what the gold glow means
its not dmg buff but dmg taken increase debuff for the enemies with mark 
Rifle glowing means the atk buff is active
Yeah it must not be accurate to when the actual buff happens so thats weird
Are you sure
I mean i did a skill 3 with the gold glow and there was less damage
Dont check the skill damage, check your attack stat
Theres multiple factors that can affect the skill damage, not just her talent
the /baseskill have not much slave, where i can go for more easy access slave? the base guide have most combo from headhunting is hard to access also
Those are the easiest ones
I mean i don't think there is an outside source but i can check
Did you check her atk stat first
Guy really be doing anything but check her atk stat before and after the rifle glows
No i get that but the longer i wait the more damage i seem to do which maybe there is another graphical signal? I'm literally just asking what the gold glow and the test shows that not entirely true?
Dear lord
No the talent doesnt do more damage the longer you wait
The talent is active after 20s/15s depending on module
she's prob doing less dmg because the enemy wasnt wanted 🤷
so ur getting more dmg from wanted + atk buff, not just the atk buff.
I could feel that sigh of pain
If the rifle glows, then the talent is active
The marked cross hair is there so no

Have you checked her attack stat compared to the one that oneshots the boss
Inb4 p3 exialt
putting my bets on pot difference. tell me when the answer is found
dude probably copy pasta low ops or smt
what the heck is even going here 🍿
I'm just trying to figure out why Lumeun's buff icons both being up results in less damage
isnt the mark different than the atk buff..
Theres a lot that can affect that, the most direct way is to just compare the atk stat
Sorry less damage than expected when waiting a few seconds after
Like if you just compare your atk stat to theirs, this would be done in less than 5 minutes
differences in lemuen/exualts levels, potentials, mastery/mod levels between yours and whichever clear youre copying will account for these. compare to video
My damage is compared to waiting like a few seconds after both buff icons appear vs waiting like 10 seconds after both buff icons appear. It is absolutely not comparing damage on someone elses video
Both?
Yes
Oh the mark and the rifle?
The gold glow as well as the mark
Then show screenshot on the bigger and smaller damage
to make sure, youre checking for:
pink glow on lemuen rifle, red orbitals from exualt, wanted mark on saint
Mobs also factor
Yup
giving us the numbers youre getting and the build levels of the lemuen/exualt youre using will help. if lemuen is on s3 and is getting distracted at all by the mobs, that would also check out
Anyone down to hop on call so i can stream them my box 😭 just confused where to go / what to focus on
pic or vid would help better
Trust, Exu2 talent, Mod levels make a relatively big damage different too
just use krooster or SS roster here sort by rarity
you can just send your roster here, i suggest importing your roster onto krooster.com so you can send it all as a link
s2 exusiai alter good?
If the damage number is visible then people can just math it out
The thing is u don't really need copy pasta low ops
I mean s3
If you know how to use it, yes
how
Wdym how
you said is you know how
s3 is a little worse damage wise against high def, but its there if you can make use of the revive utility
if you know how to use it
So what tells me i don't have the max damage buff here?
is ines stealing def
Sorry does this need spoilered?
surfer
i lowkey forgot what ines does
Can you just, screenshot the damage numbers
ines steals aspd and atk not def(thats surfer)
ok got it
Like these indicators mean nothing if we dont see the damage numbers
okay that my issue then I'm trying to figure out when the buffs are all up so I can max out damage
Because you said with all the passies active it does different amounts of damage
screenshot when she hits the saint, lemuen deals enough damage to get the giant red numbers
telling us how built the lemuen/exualt youre using are would help
just make video or smt
So when it fails 4690
you cn figure when the buff all up when you check her atk stats
iuno why this take so long
When it succeeds the boss is sent to 0 hp in the same setup so not sure what I'm missing
I literally said the guy did everything but check her attack numbers
Like since 15 minutes ago
^ literally all you need to do is tell us what her atk stat is before pressing skill
Like the one thing that can affect her damage, they didnt show and insist on these vague indicators that show zero numbers
how much damage
does the boss hit 0 in both cases
1799 atk stat. not sure how this helps me identify when the attack buff is active
it’s probably just the ramping hitting the hp cap at different places
Now screenshot the damage you did on the boss, the red numbers
Sometimes i kills and sometimes it doesn't despite all icons being shown. So what I would then believe is that the visual buff icons aren't reliant and so checking the atk stat would be more reliable yeah?
How invested is this lemuen, masteries, mod, trust
lv60 mod3 lemuen + exualt buff (no pots on either) should = 1833 atk for lemuen
no masteries, mod 2 
Ori#6261
please just borrow my lemuen and save yourself the hassle
sob
all this time and bro using skill lvl 7
This guy always peak
Is this P1
Okay so back to what I was saying why does it do less damage if i do it early but all icons are showing? I can wait like 10 more seconds after all buff icons and do more damage. Also I'm using s3.
man just use a better lemuen
its doing less damage than its supposed to because this lemuen isnt fully built 
be careful of this
the guy is using s3 
mod2 still 20s
oh, if its s3 then ignore my lemuen, not doing s3m3 until is6
Is lemuen talent atk_scale or damage_scale
Yeah thats the question i've been having but we just kind of ignored that one. Which is why i want to know if the graphic icons for buffing are reliable
MandroDrugal#5171 lemon s3m3 mod3 pot2 let me put her up a sec
atk scale, +18% on her base atk
her talent is just regular +% atk buff
they should be
i think it’s hard to say the cause without a video or a clear image
the icons are reliable. the issue is that youre using a sl7 lemuen
Oh so the damage taken is atk_scale and not dmg_scale?
I don't know if people are still misunderstanding my question so i'm going to get a video of both runs that show case the same setup but me waiting like a little longer after all buffs are visible
Toxic*
ok thx you
Huh the numbers dont add up
just add the account and bomb saint alr
what skill does Exualter want mastered?
2>3
Chat whats the difference between thorns x and y module?
thanks
1st talent dmg scale, 2nd talent just +%atk
thorns y may not exist i fear
its x and delta,delta better but mod3 is expensive mod2 fine
thorns has x and delta. delta works slightly better
if u already have x dont build delta,the differnce is not worth the mod blocks
Ah ok
I've ranged/support as option for tags
I only have magallan and suzu
Do I add ranged or even if I get silverash it's good?
Why is that so? Doesnt nervous impairment means better? Or not really since there is no impairment teamcomp yet?
silverash is nice to have, you can keep him in
it’s expensive
I heard Nightingale is pretty good. Saria and SA too.
the NI proc usually doesnt proc most of the time
Alr ty
still go support top op for mostima NG yes
So with 1799 atk, their lemuen should do 5.1k damage to the saint per shot
Why are they only doing 4.9
Mod 2 still need 20s so probably that
thats a big difference
accounting for sl7 and mod2 yea?
trust value might explain it
screenshot shows wanted mark on saint so the 20sec are assumed
No they said 1799 is her atk when she did S3
what's the boss def
1000+1500 assuming phase 1
mutiplier for s stage?
Oh right theres S stage multiplier
wont know until retracing steps actually releases
Well heres the same team but i did stall a little differently. Idk would gravel buff?
Yeah with S stage multiplier it checks out
only place ines when the boss starts walking to the 3rd tile, the boss wont move for a bit when it walks to the 2nd tile
is left regular and right cm?
If my base has every building maxed out how much Factory Productivity would Minimalist give?
please @ me next time and sure
Np
Is Lemuen s2 really good?
Or just MT S5 was desgined to make Lemuen look good
Is this how arknights events always designed, like make the rate up unit look better than they actually are?
40, you can #r-i-i-c pinned link #4, it has all stuff like this
check lemon talent, she have atk buff after 15s
i just done that guide mt s 5 challange this morning, feel free to ask me
Thanks, I'm looking for someone to replace Asbestos and Vanilla
Its only better on one single stage
9/10 times s3 is still better huh?
If they want to do that, they'll make every single stage tailored to her
No they don’t usually design around the rate up, in an obvious way at least
S2 isn’t good but does well when the boss just kind of does nothing except move around a lot.
Similar to typhon s3
252 is better btw, you probably heard that but just wanted to say
No we're not h*yo, the meta doesnt revolve around the new shiny toy
is 351 good? I am following a guide for it but people here say otherwise
It’s just so happen this boss is made to be a lemuen showcase
351 is smurf base
351 is excellent, just complicated to set up and youre supposed to swap back over to 252 eventually
It’s good but most people don’t bother or didn’t know until it was too late so they don’t have experience
Or they just assume you meant 153 lol
There was a stage, MT S4 i think
Where Wisadel couldnt do shit cause the enemies always healed up in time
Do event stages always have a wisadel counter?
ok
No
Enemies healing is an every dps counter
They still heal even if you dont use wisadel
I wonder how arf guide is coming along 
it was mt s 3 if u mean healing enemy stage
Yea maybe got spoiled by exu alter's attk speed,
Yea mt s3 wisadel couldnt atk faster
try out necrass solo guide and use that necrass also for challenge mode

Ah i replaced wisadel for lemuen in that stage, s3 could kill the healing enemies early whereas wisadel couldnt ouput enuf dmg in a short amount of time
right cause wis cant one shot those healer
Person discovers the braindead dps still has a weakness
Thats why i cant tell if its just this event where lemuen looks good and actually a nice QOL for these stuff where u need to kill things fast
weakness is dont have enough dps

grr my nuclear bomb got out healed
oh hi suffer 
and then theres spiked enemies that can heal themselves 
If you thjnk bout it wisadel doesnt excel at dps, takes forever to launch another atk
right the event actually for lemon and apple pie xD
tell that to spike chest
Yeah that’s why you s2m3
we got pianus for that
M3ing s2 wisadel is also recommended?
wis has another skills? 
only really advisable if you play is a lot
it's good in IS5
Even if you don’t use it here it’s better in IS with aspd scaling
If you use her for more than just braindead stage clear, yeah
Oh right i havent touched IS since i returned minths ago
sound like me every IS game
Should I ask what you mean or is this not gonna go anywhere
nvm
are we getting another addition to the help tier list
theres a tierlist??? 
ill send elsewhere
check faes (maafalu) bio
Is necrass any good?
He knows
It’s nomnom guys
yes i like her design but meta? idk
she can solo mt s 3
oh im blind 
Good laneholder
steamrolls most content
falls off in difficult content where her summons cant really keep up with enemies anymore
is it worth it to keep farming the events just to buy manganese ores?
The people who gave out their friend name and number for some reason no results are found when searched
There will be manganese in every event from now on, so if you have enough of all the mats for now, then no need
Honestly the search for adding friends on my end seems to just not work
Would necrass fit here? I'm just trying to put a bunch of DPS together.
Case Sensitive?
I have to think less with 243
she has solos in vector breakthrough as well iirc
Well i copied the names from this channel so unless the people typed it wrong or idk it seems just very weird
You mean 243?
I disagree tbh
Yea 243 my bad
Link me the message?
Also fair just
I built 3 units this patch to M9, M6 and M3 and all will get Mod 3. I still have 9M+ LMD left

well tell us what make you think 243 make you think less, or use less effort
and Ori#6261. I just think my thing is messed up and maybe it needs a restart. Codes aren't working for me personally
that does not explain 243 is better
it means you have resource stocked up already after a long while

you probably copied whitespace
Yeah let me see if the restart worked cause like when i searched names I knew were right it didn't even work
yeah that should be typed right, thats me 
my lemuen only has s2 masteries so not what youre looking for, mb
I guess not the best choice of words. I'm just too used to 243 by now since its been that way for me since I started back in Darknights rerun
Is there an invisible space at the end or something
I have s2m3 s3m3 mod2 pot3 if you need it
Sploofie#1237, just put Sploofie and it should work (it worked for most ppl)
It’s never too late to make more resources with simpler schedule
then isnt this a case of fear of the unfamiliarity
since 252 does not require more effort or click compared to 243
I checked on both ends is google plays for pc just messed up?
Is 252 the best comp to make Orundum?
actually 342
which is just a deviation of 252
342 is best, but setting up your base for orundum farming is certainly a choice
did you figure out the lemuen thing
It’s good, you can make the shards with the 5th factory and then convert to 342 for the AO conversions
who should i e2 first
I mean at this point its what I would care most about since I have an abundance of everything else
Exu
how abundant are we talking
Lol i think copying the text straight from discord breaks it because i saw no spaces but retyping it without copy paste did it
exualt > texalt priority
consider blaze/penance afterwards
maybe its bc your computer idk but its work
What specifically did you want to see?
Good question
Well thank you for the help
orundum farming is either a completely drowning in lmd/exp or out of units worth building situation, im asking to make sure youre in a good position to be doing this
He just said he m18 mod9 with 9m lmd left over 
Here hold on
Incoming #salt-mines post
Bingo
fair enough
is there event shop infographic? i need to know how much sanity needed left to clear the shop
'Why do you not use your boxes' I like having 1 of everything
Yeah that’s pretty common
same
Collection
check peteryr youtube channel
Ye, same reason why I still have most of the Insta E2/M3 tickets too

That one very common lmao
You can never have too much gacha currency, especially since I'm rolling for Tragman and Collab soon (and also maybe Ulpipi rerun)
Is gracebearer good?
item from event that unique and cant be obtained again
Still have a Skin Voucher
yes
decent laneholder if you dont have better options
That one also purchasable later, but yea sure
Anyone know the name of the ost that plays during the masses travels bossfight before somniomancer null set kicks in?
Who would be a better replacement for her?
La pluma or 6 star
one of many 6stars
U can check mass travel album on msr channel
Omg kirn 
Between la pluma and gracebearer who is better?
hi i.a

'underneath the sanctuary'
Thanks
Grace
La Pluma have better afk skill but ehh
Okiee thanks!
grace is easier to use
Both can carry yu well in early stage of game, just pick one tbh
I’m using lappland and Matoimaru rn I’m just thinking of adding another melee combat to my team
grace has better onskill range and can be directly healed by medics if the stage is hitting her with more pressure. why the ?
What would be worth doing?
Summons?
4* tag
Anyway
More gravel
Damn haha
Doesn’t matter since it’s just a guaranteed 4*
nothing better than a 4star. pick whoever needs potentials still
- place la pluma

Quick question I have 300 pulls (spark?) and IDK what to get, do I just max pot wisadel? (I own every character in the spark list)
I actually got waaifu from it this morning, so never lost ur hope
Why did you 300 then 
Kirn is John have faith 🛐
Is waifu worth trying for here or just go for gravel
Cause I wanted exia 2 but she wont come home I went all the way to 300 to get her sadly
How would you try
Is not having a healer on team good?
It’s just put the same tag and gamble
Melee and fast redeploy
@iron wigeon fuck your clue bomb giving me everything but clue 5 im gonna find you
It’s not good or bad, it just is
It might not worth tho
my condolences on the exualt results
max pot wis is a decent idea, but check the others if theres high impact pots to get
Yeah so those are the gravel tags as well so you’re gambling by for him either way
Depends
If you know what you doing, healer is just eye candy
You just better rely on them so you don't need afraid of damage
The chance there but most likely it will be 4*, other can be 5* or crossed
Go away kotkai-adjacent
@astral bear ive been 5less for 48hrs 🥹
I forgor to put /
was exalter available for purchase at 300 tokens in any previous CN limited banner?
She’s brand new
For context I’m using saria and gummy for self sustain, and the rest focus on huge damage
lord i've been 5 less for a week atp
E2 haze tech
She can be sparked in CN’s next limited banner (eg. ~6 months away for them, ~1 year away for us)
They are healers. Not a good one, in gummy’s case…
Uh interesting team
Which timezone is this
man.... 
🦅
IM LYING ines/ch'en literally just pulled one in. it will go to you 
utc-5, in game time
Ahh okie, idk how to compose a team yet lmao just joined like a week ago
utc -7, en server time
Did you buy the elite 2 tickets or something



can we move this to