Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[karmic willow]

not to mention you have to poison either sides quickly

and then they gain stats

Will take at least

2 syncs to kill one of the sides

The next one might die in one

And 2 syncs to kill latias

Already an absurd amount of tms

Then you have to deal with bar 2 dodge shinnenigans

Assuming if you got out of it scott free

There is also the guaranteed eq bar 3

(Though, might not deal that much damage)

If you don't get debuffed to hell already since bar 1

A lot of problems might come up

So I would advise just throwing in something to take advantage of her pep rally

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/6000/16800?s=5&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLDhUYHh8gIi4v

All the way

[lost juniper]

Janine can reduce accurcy though

[mint osprey]

SS Silver is only good at 3/5? I got him off 100 pull

[pearl beacon]

He's fine at base

Got inertia

So like 1/5 EX with an accuracy supp can work great

[hollow ether]

Tks Dena for the free 100 scout, only get 3 5* power ups, nothing from poke fair, no suprised for my account 😌

[pearl beacon]

I have the last two tickets

[tender horizon]

I got new Rose and 4/5 SS n so thats very good

This channel about to go crazy tmr

[rocky oasis]

got a new olenna

nice

[kind imp]

Got 1/5 SS n and 1/5 SS brendan

[tender horizon]

Also im gunna splurge on Mix again when Leaf drops

Yalls

Water and Psychic egg might suggest that Entei and Terrakion are in the next LG

[hollow ether]

Nice pull you guys got there

i was hoping to get at least copy of Rika, SS Brendan, Anniv Raihan, BT Leon for upcoming HSE, but sadly dena did not give me

[blissful rose]

I'm torn on spending paid gems on the select scouts for 1 guaranteed unit or spend them on Mix Leaf on the chance of getting something there.

[tender horizon]

You can calculate the expected cost of a unit from Mix

Accirately by only considering the chance of getting something you want

For me the chance of getting a unit i want is 2.4% on top of Leaf 2%

Which makes the amount of gems needed to get a unit expected to be 4700 paid gems

Which means as long as a guaranteed banner is below 4700 paid gems, it is more beneficial for me to pay for that

Personally im wondering if i wanna pull on the Pokefair banner since its probably 5000 paid gems...

Which isnt too far off

[blissful rose]

The pokefair banner is confirmed to be 5k gems.

[pearl beacon]

Selects are just worth in absolute means
Remember mix can shaft you to 30k for 1 limited

[blissful rose]

Thing is I just don't pull enough that Mix Scout is more tempting given the units it has.

After some math, it's 5.42% out of the 7% that could be something that I can use be it up sync level or brand new units (more on the latter).

Also, for the last few years, any selects are dead af, not even a single 5*. It's traumatizing to see paid gems down the drain without something else from it.

[pearl beacon]

Seasonals are always the best stuff
Variety too, 3k is really nice

Pf selects should be more impactful imo
And I usually skip most of them

[lost juniper]

Mix is a pretty good invesment still

Got many limited units from both runs

[tender horizon]

Ok then thats good!

5.42 includes 2% leaf though

[tender horizon]

I did the calc for you and your reference gem cost is 3500 paid gems for a unit that you want from Mix

[tender horizon]

Indeed, and for LG, mix gives me a steady source of fodder and filler units like OG Gloria

[lost juniper]

Leaf gonna be good though for gauntlet

[tender horizon]

Ye but id like to see her as a by-product of what im going for

Cus shes a premium unit and i dont like to buy stuff like tht

And if the chance of scouting the premium unit becomes higher than the chance of getting what you want, then you shudnt pull the banner based on your principle

For me, that means after getting 24 more units that i want then i wud approach that threshold

[blissful rose]

Definitely not doing the pf banner then but nothing looks interesting from the 3 seasonal scouts and 2 costume scouts either.

Mix banner it is, at least I could accumulate scout points on it.

[vagrant crypt]

Hello everyone.
Sorry for the long post.
With members of a French Poma discord, we intended to question the developers about the unjustified increase of the pity, we try to bring back a maximum of people this is why I dare to come here to ask you for help.
We don't know if this will have an impact, but it's worth a try!
Here's the message to put under their posts (on X more precisely):

"The pity raise is unjustified, especially without adjusting the monthly gem count.
A significant part of the playerbase is disappointed and worried about the future of the game.
An anniversary should bring joy.
Please reconsider this or adjust the gem count.
#PoMa500 #天井500"

[karmic willow]

The pity raise is unjustified, especially without adjusting the monthly gem count.
A significant part of the playerbase is disappointed and worried about the future of the game.
An anniversary should bring joy.
Please reconsider this or adjust the gem count.
#PoMa500 #天井500

Dude next time make it a seperate text so i can copypaste on mobile @vagrant crypt

[vagrant crypt]

Sorry, will think next time.

[karmic willow]

Funnily enough it does fit the tweet perfectly

[tender horizon]

Why u posting in LG chat lol

But i shall send this feedback

[vagrant crypt]

To attract as many people as possible; I won't talk about that on this channel, don't worry.
Thanks to those who will, anyway. 🙏

[pearl beacon]

You may be got lucky
But no guaranteed is still no guaranteed

My last mix run was abt 15K for just mBlue and Anabel

As long as you want the featured unit is fine btw

But also depend in how much you are able to spend

The 3k bundle doesn't allow for much

[lost juniper]

So share it in the feedback?

I do want to help here too

[vagrant crypt]

We put this under their tweets so other people will see it and join the movement.

[lost juniper]

Oh I see. Well I don't have twitter so can't join. I wish you all luck though

[blissful rose]

Probably the most unhyped anniversary ever when I'm more excited about the general tickets update instead to get the 5 new units.

[stuck mantle]

Good idea i send then feedback on game and twitter already

But i was not nice like you🤣

We need responce quic like it was whit gloria prestige event

So they get we dont like this

[hollow ether]

Maybe also add feedback about candy & cake?

Like exchange the 3* & 4* candy to 5*? Same as the power up tickets or add more option to get them

I've done this feedback many times but no respond from them 😐

[stuck mantle]

They never respond . This dont think can be change. Would be too easy lv up units.

But 500 scam points need change quic if not all banners soon or latter have it

Then will be too late for it

[hollow ether]

At least add more option to get it 😅

Like monthly shop can exhange 2 or more etc.

[vagrant crypt]

Yes, I see. Maybe in the future but the priority remains this pity at 500, imo.

[hollow ether]

Yeah that's more priority, as well as, monthly gem count

[vagrant crypt]

Try X! Changes are felt over time, probably not right away but by showing our dissatisfaction, they will revisit their system.

[lost juniper]

If everyone is angry, maybe that will cause DeNA to listen?

[sick parcel]

Btw random question

I have never paid attention to this before but

How long does it usually take for LG results to be calculated/finalized

[chrome halo]

2 resets iirc

[sick parcel]

Ah

Thank you

[chrome halo]

Same for HSE and ranked DC

[hollow ether]

Maybe someday i will try

[hollow ether]

Uninstall or never spend single dime is better to make dena listen ig 😂

[pearl beacon]

Nah we alrd got way worse stuff than prestige

[vagrant crypt]

I'm pretty pessimistic about this sort of thing, but a member of the frrench discord poma part, and I trust him, so give it a try, it doesn't cost anything.

[pearl beacon]

And we may get prestige event with Arc Suits

Cutoff 1k

[pliant glen]

Gauntlet video is going to have to wait until housework finishes because this ain't going to do it I'm afraid

[pearl beacon]

19gb hope you got a good connection

[bitter gate]

jesus

i wish i could record stuff like you guys unlike solos

[lost juniper]

Just remind me that my LG14 runs still weren't all uploaded

Yeah 14. I've been procrastinating on this for months now

[inner turret]

You guys do LG

Hopefully the next one doesnt suck

[karmic willow]

I mean

What can be worse than moltres?

Like seriously bring on the stupid moon duck i would beat it

[upper lance]

Moltres + Registeel

[karmic willow]

New SC Rosa solo is waiting

[river cliff]

I dislike Terrakion more than Moltres, so that

[bitter gate]

how many solos do you think Cynthia is gonna get

she won't do cress obviously

[stuck mantle]

She have healing? Eva or flinch?

Since didnt check grid im wait for stdk poma update🤣

[river cliff]

She has healing

[bitter gate]

she has soothing sand and regen in her TM

I think she might do 13?

emphasis on might

actually no

12

Tornadus is not within her wheelhouse for sure lol

unless someone actually manages to do it by replacing rain dance on the first bar

and discombulate shenanigans kek

[stuck mantle]

Not sure how she survie bar 1 and bar 3

[dawn plume]

shes not getting cresselia

terra firma 10

[stuck mantle]

Cress no chance torn too. Moltres? Hmm

[dawn plume]

yeah

[stuck mantle]

I would not be soo sure about it as well

[dawn plume]

cresselia just saying f u to ground types for no good reason

issue w moltres is dust kicker will be needed but idk i think she does too much damage in 9 turns on bar 3

[stuck mantle]

Yeap this sandstorm have no mprs

[tender horizon]

Just wipe a bar with a Sync easy

[stuck mantle]

Plus you get lowred sts

[tender horizon]

Each sync wipes one bar

[stuck mantle]

Its water weak bar 2 not ground lol

You cant kill it in sync

[tender horizon]

She has 9 Sync Move Up next

Thats like how many times?

400%?

[stuck mantle]

Yeap but its molters in sun too

Sand she kick after sync

Not befor

So he may live

[tender horizon]

She can set sandstorm but no mpr you mean?

[stuck mantle]

Yes sandstrom have no mprs

[hallow gull]

Yup, they really want you 5/5 her

[stuck mantle]

So bar 1 need cast it

[hallow gull]

[stuck mantle]

And after you only have 1 sandstrom left

[tender horizon]

Sandstorm bar 1, sandstorm bar 2 and for your ninth move you use b move maybe?

[stuck mantle]

Not sure? If she can survive bar 2/3

[tender horizon]

Just discombobulate

Sand tomb spam

[stuck mantle]

He get 3 accu

[vital ibex]

That's 90%

[stuck mantle]

Plus if you dont kill him at half bars

[vital ibex]

sync move up next is 10% per stack

Not 40% like MUN

[stuck mantle]

Then can be issue

To stack need use b move

Wat cant use bar 2/3 for it

Since will skipp half bar easy

Sandstorm and ground zone

And hit tomb? She live it just do it? Moltres hit hard even no sun

[dawn plume]

we already know sync up next multiplier?

smun no longer works as abbreviation sighhh

[chrome halo]

it's 10% per stack

[hallow gull]

Does it go away after Sync ?

[tender crater]

Makes sense it would

[river cliff]

Could just do sun as an acronym

[vital ibex]

ye

dont you love mun, smun and sun

[raven crane]

https://youtu.be/Tgz75rMLXB0?si=ZOCbqMJNg4FYl0Wn

[tender horizon]

Oh thats not as cracked as i thought it wpuld be

In that case i dont need to scout Cynthia

[heavy sinew]

Absolutely nothing from the tickets

[tender horizon]

I axtually expected 400% Sync move LOL

[heavy sinew]

The only new thing I got was a tierno

[vital ibex]

Hell no that'd be insane lol

[heavy sinew]

Everything else was a dupe

Or a dead multi

[vital ibex]

I did pretty well all things considered

1/5 argenta, 2/5 ss hilda, 4/5 paulo 4/5 steven

[tender horizon]

Wow

[pearl beacon]

[tender horizon]

Well to be fair

I got many 5 stars too

If only more of those are limited

[vital ibex]

Same

I got like 5 spotlights

All 5/5 tho

[tender horizon]

I had at least 10 5 stars

[dawn plume]

i only got 3 5 stars lmao

but 2 of them were pokefair

[pearl beacon]

So far Ryuki 1/5

[dawn plume]

so i guess its fine

argenta (new) and rose (dupe)

game said HAVE MORE STEEL TYPES

fitting for the like 5 new steel pairs this month

[pearl beacon]

Steel codex 📉

[river cliff]

3/5 anni Skyla, 1/5 Avery, 1/5 SS Korrina, a very whack set of pokefairs other than Skyla

[pearl beacon]

Avery

[river cliff]

He's funky at 1/5

[chrome halo]

you guys got pokefairs?

[rocky oasis]

i got a couple dupes and a 1/5 olenna

im happy

[heavy sinew]

Exactly

game wasn't too happy with me

[tender horizon]

Rip

Sucks to be Arzen

[rocky oasis]

3/5 ss leon 4/5 steven 4/5 ss bren 1/5 olenna 3/5 olympia

i'll take it

[hallow gull]

Man, those sound wonderful

I got total 2

[gleaming cypress]

i for sure didn't

[chrome halo]

[stuck mantle]

I got nothing too from this 100 ticket opend today and scam:)

But i expect it🤣 so game don’t disappoint me this time

[tight rivet]

90%

its 10% per

[tight rivet]

i got 3/5 lucas and 1/5 volo

[rocky oasis]

nice

[shy sinew]

I got Alder to 5/5 and… yeah that’s it

[chrome halo]

at least you guys got something useful

[bitter gate]

I got a 4/5 Brendan and that's it

I got a SS Red and base Lance after that and they were both already 5/5

[inner turret]

got a few good stuff

all i got during run up (+ 2/5 ss may)

[chrome halo]

being shafted rn means i get ultra lucky on Arc Steven banner right?

[heavy sinew]

actually now that I remember, I got 4/5 SS leaf and a 4/5 alder

so it's not too bad, right?

RIGHT?

[chrome halo]

[inner turret]

one more mult on alder is nice

[bitter gate]

that's really good, no

Leaf gets venomous and freebie

with gauge being one of her biggest issues

Alder doesn't get as much from the 4/5 benchmark, with Impervious being the main mark

but 5/5 Alder is quite good for LG, having soloed a few things already

[heavy sinew]

I thought it was a 5/5 tile

[bitter gate]

no, the 5/5 tile is her attack debuffs

[inner turret]

and power play

[heavy sinew]

no, I meant alder

[bitter gate]

and her nuke

yeah, it's at 5/5

[inner turret]

her nuke
still no way to setup

and she gotta wait a long time before side expansion since she's a year 2 unit

[sturdy steeple]

her nuke is really good still

[chrome halo]

is asking for Critical Eye and Grand Entry too much

[inner turret]

sharp entry 1 grand entry 2

[chrome halo]

get out

[bitter gate]

they literally made Mix Red a better version

[sturdy steeple]

i would be so happy with that

[chrome halo]

max crit or bust

[dawn plume]

WTF latios stole his sisters gimmick??

[bitter gate]

mix units were arc fairs before they even existed

[inner turret]

arc kantrio with the starter they're all missing

[sturdy steeple]

typical brother

[bitter gate]

Also Latios is about to be the clown of not only LG but also UB in all likelihood

[dawn plume]

fairy weak stage with fluid fortification gimmick

[inner turret]

lucy is the bigger clown

[dawn plume]

welcome back latias LA

[bitter gate]

what does DenA have against Latios

yeah, Lucy is the bigger clown for sure, just put a cookie on her

kek

[inner turret]

dies of antitoxin

[heavy sinew]

revenge

[chrome halo]

should have had 1 mil HP smh

Gladion eats him alive

[inner turret]

#1009557516369281075 message

[sturdy steeple]

nita being one of the hardest UBs vs evelyn being one of the easiest

[bitter gate]

I actually want to try Lysandre tank against this one

lol

[heavy sinew]

I have contributed to the cause

[bitter gate]

also, did the LG end with ruri leading or

[sturdy steeple]

volo person

[bitter gate]

her screenshot suggests she did

269

oh, somebody else?

damn

[heavy sinew]

I still have not done nita

[bitter gate]

the guy with the face for a name?

[sturdy steeple]

yes

[heavy sinew]

1/5 Irida really is something

[dawn plume]

i beat nita with 1/5 irida once and i don’t care to replicate it

[heavy sinew]

It has been done

[heavy sinew]

Brug

[sturdy steeple]

use sun team my beloved

[inner turret]

imagine doing ultimate battles

[dawn plume]

the trick is you have to time nc red’s buddy move well and turn deny efficiently w freeze

to get more icy winds off

if blue’s discharge paralyzes you’re screwed lol

[inner turret]

still have to beat leon, nita and giovanni

well leon i just throw rat bird 3rdwhatever at his face and ez gg but still

[heavy sinew]

I cannot do any of the teams since I don't have most of the units on the sheet

[bitter gate]

Will Malva be able to replicate the Serena magic

[heavy sinew]

oh wait ropalme has one

[bitter gate]

[inner turret]

lodge serena ?

[bitter gate]

she's literally a serena clone but

[sturdy steeple]

no her grid is worse

[bitter gate]

no regen

I think that's the saddest part

[inner turret]

sorry my girl is better

[bitter gate]

no regen

reflect is also annoying

[sturdy steeple]

why have x speed all and then have flame charge

please

[heavy sinew]

unite vibes

[copper helm]

Nothing new from tickets, but got two pairs to 4/5, Ss Morty and regular Gloria
Good I assume?

[sturdy steeple]

thats great

[inner turret]

wasnt it you that asked for sprint pairs that buff team speed ?

[bitter gate]

they tried to lean too much into supporting allies, but i thought all sprints did something that helped their allies

[dawn plume]

flame charge has a slow animation ironically

[sturdy steeple]

yes but why have the slowest normal move in the game as your attacking move

[dawn plume]

cuz it tries to buff your speed even at +6 speed

[bitter gate]

at least her theme is a banger and she's hot right

[sturdy steeple]

right and right

[bitter gate]

at least she's not Trevor

[sturdy steeple]

i like trevor more than her by far

even tho trevor is boring too

[bitter gate]

Trevor isn't a solo machine tho

[sturdy steeple]

ok but still a pretty alright support with synchro

[bitter gate]

I think he's worse than something like Lenora, unironically, but maybe I'm being an idiot

[heavy sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[bitter gate]

Lenora has soloed a surprising amount of stuff

and Trevor is just fatter on the special side

[inner turret]

trevor got synchro and grad heal and synthesis

[bitter gate]

with not a lot of anti LG stuff outside of special attack drops too

[inner turret]

i think he can do at least as many as lenora

[dawn plume]

all of the gen pools this update are… okay

as expected

[sturdy steeple]

gotta love offensive debuffs

[inner turret]

im sad chuck isnt an hypnosis wake up slap pair

[dawn plume]

chuck is a striker but has some utility w confusion and def debuffs

[heavy sinew]

They didn't even give him brutal clarity or something

[chrome halo]

should have been a Fissure unit like the sides in Noland's UB

[sturdy steeple]

exactly what fighting type needed more damage dealers (sarcasm)

[heavy sinew]

+6 acc is silly

[dawn plume]

dena make gen pool fighting type pair interesting challenge (FAILED)

[sturdy steeple]

hes fine tho

[chrome halo]

sad Buzzma noises

[inner turret]

+6 acc + acuity makes him basically have piercing gaze on rock smash

which is nice

[heavy sinew]

latias counter moment

[inner turret]

not psychic weak too

electric on a dps is a good weakness, just sucks a bit against raikou but that's it

[heavy sinew]

dodge everything with confusion ez

[bitter gate]

he has protect too

so that's nice

[sturdy steeple]

the protect takeover on some units is getting outta hand

[inner turret]

"what do we give this unit for its last move?"
"idk man"
"ok protect"

[sturdy steeple]

taking away an entire potential moveslot for buffs n stuff just for one damage guard on SUPPORTS hurts me

[heavy sinew]

max guard units:

Wtf

[inner turret]

what

[heavy sinew]

Nvm

[tender horizon]

Nah

[dawn plume]

protect is everywhere now its crazy

[gleaming cypress]

until they get protect mpr on grid

[dawn plume]

dena allergic to protect mpr

[pearl beacon]

Have mgr instead

[dawn plume]

anabel gets protect and gmax replenish

closest thing

[pearl beacon]

I think we have a 3

[bitter gate]

that's still 2 protects

Kabu actually has the most protects

max guard, SDG, and Protect

it's funny

[pearl beacon]

Yeah

[heavy sinew]

banner priority put Cynthia higher than Steven

[karmic willow]

Literally

It's just sad like

You used the move, then what?

[karmic willow]

Volo guy 275

[bitter gate]

is that what you call the guy now

volo guy

[karmic willow]

I mean

What else?

I'd be damned happy if most (if not already) people called me "the rosa guy"

Unless you know the translation or their twitter account

Pretty neat that

The top 10? 20? Don't share the same character that they simp

Otherwise nothing is stopping me from toppling the supposed next Rosa super simp

[tender horizon]

Hi The rose guy

[lost juniper]

Damage dealers are glazed af

[sturdy steeple]

i forgot their actual name so yes theyre the volo guy

[pearl beacon]

Hard choices
But I'm going too for cynthia
If lucky enough steven

Lance is boring

[shy sinew]

I put Steven over Cynthia personally, but she does so much on her own that both are very justifiable top choices

[gleaming cypress]

do we know what platform JP players use to discuss LG strategies

[rocky oasis]

twitter probably

maybe line?

[gleaming cypress]

they seem to perform well by using their own strategies

idk I’m just interested by the idea that they might know a few things we don’t

probably just tho

[rocky oasis]

they dont

[pearl beacon]

[rocky oasis]

at least not on a mechanical level

[bitter gate]

JP is a lot more individualized

as a whole

they don't band together like we do

part of their skill you could argue comes from that indivdualized dynamic

[pearl beacon]

Sure they have their tierlist and communities stuff
But ig LG is too specific
They still run popular teams pioneered around here

[rocky oasis]

we've kinda taken the game's mechanics apart i think?

[pearl beacon]

Yeah

[bitter gate]

they don't

JP fundamentally doesn't play with lists

at least the good players don't

this goes for all modes too

any smart player will refuse to tell you appraisals out of fear of controversy

they have a way healthier mentality to approach the game

it's the folks that don't care too much about external prestige that end up achieving the most

[pearl beacon]

Hmmm i remember in #916852389347196958 talkig abt ranks
Like when ssMina was uber tier or smth

[rocky oasis]

probably fewer controversial "this unit sucks" opinions

[pearl beacon]

So I supposed they have some stuff

[bitter gate]

well, it's also highly varied

you have people like Shia, who is essentially japanese poce

and then you have the smarter folk

gorin, tosakinto, ruri, rarudo

the works

tosakinto's the only one who gets ted talks

everyone else just showcases and plays

and you have to actually proactively reach out and ask

to actually learn from them

they learn way better through observation than we do, that's for sure

[pearl beacon]

That's really good tbh
We would still have Rafa around

[bitter gate]

I mean, that's a different ballpark

[gleaming cypress]

I see that they are wise enough

[bitter gate]

JP can be tribal, but JP also is far less toxic than we are

[gleaming cypress]

saying [x] unit sucks can easily trigger a flame war

[bitter gate]

like, we are objectively just that much more toxic

than the japanese commnuity

lol

[gleaming cypress]

be glad this game doesn’t have PvP otherwise it would be 10x more toxic

[bitter gate]

ofc it helps that again, JP barely interacts with each other

at least publically

[gleaming cypress]

seems like so

[bitter gate]

and sees the game for what it is

a highly individuated experience

[lost juniper]

The moment the game gets pvp is the moment it dies

[gleaming cypress]

judging by the reactions to this anni yeah this is true

[bitter gate]

I'm glad I get the best of both commnuities as a fluent Japanese speaker

I literally had to translate for Rednhoho when he dropped by

[gleaming cypress]

[river cliff]

Idk I think the pomas community as a whole is pretty upset about the scout point debacle

[bitter gate]

there's a way to be civil about that

which the Japanese are good at doing

we're not

lol

[pearl beacon]

So their comminity consist in small network like w twitter or so?

[rocky oasis]

there might be a few small line chats or smth

[bitter gate]

they have their own japanese exclusive video servers, twitter, YT, and private discords/line

they won't share them

not even for me, because I'm not Japanese

[gleaming cypress]

nobody likes having to spend 9k more gems for a pity. it’s just that some people riot while others try to remain civil

[bitter gate]

again, tribalism

[pearl beacon]

Oh, that's unfortunate

[bitter gate]

I can speak it fluently, but they'll still see you as an outsider often

but again, not trying to badmouth or anything

that's jsut their culture

it's expected

[gleaming cypress]

quite interesting indeed

[lost juniper]

Well, some japanese are like that even irl

Not all but some don't like foreigners

[bitter gate]

which is normal

[lost juniper]

Never said it's not

[bitter gate]

it's not a bad thing, I'm content being able to interact with them as is

noting that they actually do observe us arguably more than we do them

just that they just watch

and they learn

[rocky oasis]

i dont use twitter so i barely see them

[river cliff]

If the gauntlet clears are anything to go by, for sure

[bitter gate]

eg: tosakinto credits a lot of his stuff to zinfogel even though they barely interact

[lost juniper]

I actually got a lot of ideas from that japanese person who posts their gauntlet clears

[bitter gate]

you'd have to narrow that down

Boshi?

[lost juniper]

Yeah him

At least they don't put it exclusively on twitter

[bitter gate]

neither does ruri, but she posts on twitter more often

Snow uses his other platform more often

niconico

I think

[lost juniper]

Snow posts on youtube too now

[bitter gate]

you'll still find stuff not on youtube there

fwiw

so less frequent

[main ruin]

Is it possible to make an alt masquerading as Japanese

[gleaming cypress]

they can see through google translate probably

[lost juniper]

You can try, but like, why

[main ruin]

I mean like learn Japanese to C2 level

[gleaming cypress]

just like how Chinese can tell between native speakers and translator users

[bitter gate]

you're not allowed to use JP text

[main ruin]

Immerse yourself in Japanese web and irl culture for a few years

[bitter gate]

in an english languaged game fwiw

[golden jacinth]

How are we doing LGers how do y'all feel about the new units

[bitter gate]

I'm familiar with the web culture, not the IRL one

[gleaming cypress]

personally wouldn’t bother but it’d be funny ig

[bitter gate]

@golden jacinth are you here to warn us for being off topic or

sorry

[dawn plume]

steven is king

[golden jacinth]

No carry on lmao

PMEX conversation is fine

[main ruin]

I mean I guess the day a translator spits out 咋子了 will be the day the world ends

[bitter gate]

but yes, I'm fairly experienced with the Japan culture myself

[lost juniper]

Steven and Lance are broken, Cynthia a little less so

[pearl beacon]

Yeah fluent doesn't mean they eon't find out
I was in a russian telegram server when game launched
Craziest stuff ever
Maybe Adam was there too, a lot of Eue were there bcs no official releases in our countries

[bitter gate]

I also know Mandarin fluently

so bilibili players

I also know and have reach

[golden jacinth]

Interesting - does she fall behind in the LG side of things?

[main ruin]

I thought the game was like not in China

[dawn plume]

i just realized alt leon got sprint wtf noooo

[main ruin]

Or do they just 翻墙

[bitter gate]

more on the taiwanese side, also VPNs exist

[dawn plume]

worst day

[gleaming cypress]

the general consensus outside of LG is steven>lance>cynthia

[sturdy steeple]

Not really she's still very good

[bitter gate]

just the nature of her design

[main ruin]

The Taiwanese side uses Bilibili?

[lost juniper]

Well she's a damage dealer so she isn't as good as the other two

[main ruin]

Interesting

[golden jacinth]

That makes sense yeah

[sturdy steeple]

Just strikes have a lot more trouble with specifically soloing

[golden jacinth]

Mm

[sturdy steeple]

But soloing isn't the only aspect of LG

[golden jacinth]

I figure Steven will do wonders

[main ruin]

I've gotta get into the Chinese side of stuff

[sturdy steeple]

He's stupid busted yes

[gleaming cypress]

yeah strikers often lack recovery to last long enough in lg

[main ruin]

But it's quite difficult as an outlander to actually use their social media right

[bitter gate]

correct

also again, people will know

[gleaming cypress]

mainland chinese or HK/TW chinese

[main ruin]

I actually do have a 1360 phone number, so maybe I can try

[bitter gate]

My JP isn't native so people know I fumble

despite the fact that I sitll get understood

Mandarin is a different ballpark

[main ruin]

Oh my Chinese is effectively mainland level

[bitter gate]

same

[gleaming cypress]

same too

[main ruin]

I mean it would probably be better if I moved from China a little older

[rocky oasis]

i never learned how to read or write chinese

[bitter gate]

though back to your statement, I do think Japanese players are more skilled at the game than we are

[rocky oasis]

parents just never bothered teaching me

never learned mandarin either

[sturdy steeple]

Arch if you'd like to see how the units match up in LG I've already updated the matchup chart with my prelaunch matchup interpretations

[gleaming cypress]

thing about LG is, no matter how busted the unit is, they can only do one solo at maximum so value caps out quite fast

[bitter gate]

Though I attribute that more so to their mindset being better

[main ruin]

I'm surprised there's no one here that's native Japanese

[rocky oasis]

idk what the CN community is like bc ive never interacted w/ them

[bitter gate]

some lurkers might be here

[bitter gate]

it's extremely small

an endangered species fwiw

[true tartan]

there are lukers here, but not many understand english lol

[pearl beacon]

That's the beauty of it
Using every single junk to do wonders

Also cmon there's nothing more rewarding than LG

[gleaming cypress]

is there a CN poma community? I should find them someday

[bitter gate]

ask me

kek

[rocky oasis]

1/4-1/5 of a PU every win!

[bitter gate]

same deal as JP, highly individualized

EN community is the most commnuity-based by far

[true tartan]

I interact with some that can understand english lol

since they help me with the japanese part of the app

[gleaming cypress]

I love gambling all of my deluxe cookies away for SP3 for damage challenge!

[bitter gate]

figured you would

I hope I'm not being offensive here btw

[true tartan]

and funnily, I've been be able to read more and more japanese just by doing this lol

[bitter gate]

I do think it's interesting that I only interact with JP folks outside here

wish I could get to know more folks here

[bitter gate]

language learning 101

also depends on your language base

[true tartan]

spanish?

lol

[bitter gate]

decent

well, the main advantage language you have for Japanese would be mandarin, but even then

only up to a point

[true tartan]

well, for now, I have this

need to finish the Pasio circle things because they broke the calculator

[bitter gate]

hue

did you partially update the site?

[inner turret]

Multi has such a bad color

[true tartan]

I'm still waiting for the anni reset

[rocky oasis]

am i the only person who learned hiw to speak a certain dialect of chinese but not read it

[true tartan]

oh yes.... the damn color in multi...

[bitter gate]

being?

i know dialects also, but am only fluent in cantonese

[true tartan]

is not pretty

[dawn plume]

pomatools WIP screenshots

[bitter gate]

yeah

[rocky oasis]

taishanese

[bitter gate]

my eyes

[gleaming cypress]

will certain solos only be doable at 4/5 or 5/5 for arc suits

that would suck so hard

[true tartan]

some, yeah

[heavy sinew]

my eyes burn

[sturdy steeple]

Get divine'd

[heavy sinew]

too bright

[gleaming cypress]

1 candy for the solo 💀

[inner turret]

Cynthia might need 5/5 for Moltres ?

[dawn plume]

ah yes the light of god

[true tartan]

get used to it, that's the color in the game

[heavy sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[sturdy steeple]

That's not anything new for a lotta units eheheh

[rocky oasis]

wait did you update it and i just cant see rn

[inner turret]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-boom-akagi-azur-lane-hot-gif-20948624

[true tartan]

yeah, think so

[dawn plume]

not updated yet

[inner turret]

Cynthia cant do shit to Cress bad unit

[dawn plume]

lg chat gets exclusive WIP screenshots

[gleaming cypress]

dust kicker essentially gives her a field EXR

[rocky oasis]

taishanese which is pretty much canto i think?

[dawn plume]

[true tartan]

imagine she powers through it

[inner turret]

Even better than ex r

[bitter gate]

yeah

similarities are there

origins diff

[inner turret]

That'd be such a power move

[gleaming cypress]

we’ll see in 12 hours when she debuts ig

[true tartan]

KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?!?!?

[inner turret]

Arc Kantrio confirmed

[heavy sinew]

See I was wondering if arc Cynthia finally has a chance to do something to cress with some help but apparently not lmao

[dawn plume]

i remember when i was 15 and i learned kanto is a real place my mind was blown

[heavy sinew]

looool

[gleaming cypress]

unless all of the relevant lg players run out of budget and nobody does the solos

[karmic willow]

Arc Rosa soon?

[inner turret]

Terra Firma 10 exists

[dawn plume]

she would need PB

no ground units have PB yet

dena afraid

[rocky oasis]

gotta wonder if that impacts syncs

[pearl beacon]

Adam is roaming around here

[inner turret]

It does

[true tartan]

it impacts both

95% DR

[inner turret]

It does affect max moves too I believe

[main ruin]

I would have learnt a dialect...

[rocky oasis]

rip

[main ruin]

...if my dialect wasn't the OFFICIAL LANGUAGE...

[heavy sinew]

ik

[rocky oasis]

wow they really neutered a entire type lmao

[true tartan]

I'm really awaiting for the reset and do Cynthia solos

[rocky oasis]

at least moltres dies to solar flare

[true tartan]

[inner turret]

How many solos at 1/5

[heavy sinew]

unless you pity

[true tartan]

her first appearance was my first Poké Fair 5/5 back in new year

[bitter gate]

I hope everyone gets busy with the other stuff so I can do my BP rose solos

[heavy sinew]

I'm saying 4

[true tartan]

I've saved +100k for that

[inner turret]

Lmaoo

[sturdy steeple]

Believe me those are yours

[heavy sinew]

Good

[inner turret]

BP Lusamine Bulu solo lfggg

[tender crater]

Anything an EXd 3/5 Dana could do

[true tartan]

hmmm

[bitter gate]

gimme

so I can plan

well I have the chinese site so its fine

[true tartan]

no healing

[inner turret]

Who does he even solo

[true tartan]

you also have brybry's you know lol

[bitter gate]

Latios/bulu/Regi

[lost juniper]

Latios, Bulu, Raikou and who else?

[true tartan]

Registeel to some degree, yep

can see it happening

[heavy sinew]

Entei probably?

[bitter gate]

am talking about regirock for rose

[heavy sinew]

Have my doubts tho

[bitter gate]

Registeel idt he can do it

[dawn plume]

steven needs 3/5 huh

[bitter gate]

not impossible but

not gonna do that first

[true tartan]

yes, Regirock is the one I had in mind lol

[rocky oasis]

are we getting virizon and lando LA i gotta wonder

[true tartan]

the only problem I see with him is his gauge

[bitter gate]

he has the colress trick

[true tartan]

yeah

[inner turret]

Ok I was memeing but she actually has a shot at it

[dawn plume]

LAs died when ultimate battles came in

[heavy sinew]

lando with fly again

[true tartan]

but is "slower"

[bitter gate]

just spam screech freebies

with stacks

[true tartan]

is about screech -> IH

Entei is 100% doable lol

[inner turret]

Screech is slow

[bitter gate]

against latios and builu

[sturdy steeple]

Finally actually ice and poison weak stages

[inner turret]

It's not the same spam as Colress

Far from it

[dawn plume]

literally last LA was october 23 and UBs started november

[bitter gate]

isn't iron defense fast

[inner turret]

No

[dawn plume]

death and rebirth

[true tartan]

nope

[gleaming cypress]

I think they forgot LA existed

[rocky oasis]

poison weak but if swaps to flying weak on bar 2

[true tartan]

single stat buff or debuff are slow

[bitter gate]

as in even if you're maxed and spam it

[gleaming cypress]

inb4 ultimate battle gauntlet

[bitter gate]

status is faster always?

[inner turret]

Yeah it's slow

[bitter gate]

I guess

[true tartan]

but again

[heavy sinew]

"if you forgot about it, it probably wasn't that important "

[true tartan]

"not needed" for Entei

he'll stay flinching for a good time

[stuck mantle]

So stdk tommorow you update app?

[true tartan]

sigh...

[bitter gate]

I could try it, sure

gonna start with bulu first

[wise raven]

latios and bulu:

[true tartan]

ah yeah

Cheryl should also have a good attempt too

[inner turret]

Status cond against an already statused opponent
Moves with condition not fulfiled (first impression, venom drench)
Sleep under electric terrain
Move that raise or drop 2 different stats or more
Potion at full health / Full Heal with no status

All these are fast when you fail them, the rest is slow

[heavy sinew]

perona mentioned

[bitter gate]

against Latios/Entei?

[heavy sinew]

she def can do 2

[bitter gate]

idt she does bulu

i'd be surprised if she can tbh

[rocky oasis]

status when target is status immune is slow btw

ive tried

[sturdy steeple]

Fake

[inner turret]

Yeah that's why it's not in the list

[true tartan]

yeah

[rocky oasis]

its a important enough edge case that its worth noting at least

[gleaming cypress]

BP barry and melony users on rn

[wise raven]

it's hilda actually

[true tartan]

so, who's ready for Will part 2

[heavy sinew]

me

[true tartan]

instead of raising Xatu's stats randomly

[rocky oasis]

he should be able to debuff acc

[true tartan]

Slowbro reduces them

[rocky oasis]

looks miserable tbh

[heavy sinew]

and he doesn't flinch

[rocky oasis]

to solo w/ at least

[true tartan]

it WILL be miserable

[tender horizon]

HONTOU DESU KA?

[rocky oasis]

oof bulu confusion clears are the worst

[karmic willow]

lol

[heavy sinew]

Not even curative confusion smh

[karmic willow]

imagine using jessie as main attacker

omaga

[true tartan]

Morgan has potential huh

[tender horizon]

Well you know there are also multiple perspectives of what you call toxic

[rocky oasis]

no regen either

[true tartan]

he has regen

but on TM

[rocky oasis]

huh

and only 1 MP

[true tartan]

yep

[inner turret]

3 uses max

[rocky oasis]

rip my sanity

[inner turret]

After that the tm fails

[true tartan]

except when you get yor Sp. Def lowered

but yeah lol

[tender horizon]

OMG WHATS THE TEA WHERE THE NEWS ????

[bitter gate]

そうだよ

[true tartan]

Morgan will reach higher than her sisters

[rocky oasis]

theres none

just noting that a lot of the BP units are also LG punching bags

[golden jacinth]

Awesome thanks naomi! I will have a look in a bit

oops ping

[sturdy steeple]

No worries

[inner turret]

Damn she got restoring strike

Morgan gaming

[true tartan]

yup

and vigilance in grid

[rocky oasis]

latios is the cookie pinata

[shy sinew]

Cynthia probably gets thrown into duos pretty easily is how I read her kit

[true tartan]

so you can fill any LS

[inner turret]

Definitely the new 3/5 priority

[inner turret]

Arch carring about LG???

[true tartan]

mostly, Stoic 2, DC2, Wise Entry 2

[dawn plume]

ppl cared more about lg once they needed super powered 3 cookies

unfortunately, moltres

[rocky oasis]

bring back our pinata dragon

[inner turret]

Latios Entei Bulu LG

[rocky oasis]

hit latios and tasty cookies fall out

[heavy sinew]

Impossible

[karmic willow]

ngl

the japanese discord is

probably the FIRST one that i've seen that has a few players

they are definitely divided

but hey, some of them made an effort to meet irl

[true tartan]

yeah

[karmic willow]

meanwhile most of us are from way different countries lmfao

[true tartan]

they interact in other ways lol

[karmic willow]

even IN my country it's hard

[inner turret]

One day I could meet Elek IRL

[gleaming cypress]

this is the main server for the rest of the world

[rocky oasis]

I dont wanna meet any of yall irl

[karmic willow]

@hallow gull @chrome halo masters ex offline when

[magic swift]

What made Super Powered 3 so popular, increase of On Type meta?

[karmic willow]

yeah i get lmfao

[karmic willow]

Damage Challenge

[heavy sinew]

Same

[magic swift]

Ah

[inner turret]

We stinky

[gleaming cypress]

fair enough

[magic swift]

I still have no idea how damage challenge works I just grab 100 Gems

[inner turret]

[magic swift]

But makes sense

[inner turret]

Click Thunder Wave, win

Ez

[heavy sinew]

You press metronome until you get super effective

[inner turret]

Lol

[gleaming cypress]

damage challenge is heavily biased towards sync nukers

since b moves take time

[crimson stratus]

Hi, cracer!

[bitter gate]

That's the culture

[rocky oasis]

ranked is gonna be funny

[gleaming cypress]

and u only get 3 mins

[bitter gate]

I'm not in that discord tho

[karmic willow]

you're not missing much

tbh

i post their clears here sometimes

[bitter gate]

Which one is it anyway

[karmic willow]

and most of them just

"talk"

[inner turret]

Feo's

I think

[true tartan]

tapioka's discord

[dawn plume]

yeah theres a ranked dc same reset steven drops right

[karmic willow]

the one with the will face

[bitter gate]

Oh that one

It's not even that big anyway no

In terms of member size

[true tartan]

70 members

[bitter gate]

Yeah

[heavy sinew]

is there even another English discord for just LG? Or is this the only one

[bitter gate]

Massive diff lol

[true tartan]

and like, ~15 are some of here

[karmic willow]

yes

[dawn plume]

more tickets so i can actually get a gladion dupe (i will get silver instead)

[true tartan]

I think tapioka made it to help/share things about LG

since that is the name of the server lol

[rocky oasis]

i mean theres probably smaller discords

[bitter gate]

Lol

Most players have their isolated communities I think

[true tartan]

or their dms in X/groups on Line

[gleaming cypress]

I joined this place because I needed help with the uxie regirock terrakion lg

[rocky oasis]

i was in a 30 person server for a rp community that played a lot of pokemas

[gleaming cypress]

don’t regret it so far

[bitter gate]

You also have the Facebook groups

[true tartan]

I've seen it there

[bitter gate]

Of other countries

[rocky oasis]

people still use FB?

[true tartan]

nothing.... that impressive?

[bitter gate]

That are spread out

Yeah

[bitter gate]

Which is

[rocky oasis]

i know the NYC pokemon go players still use FB

thats it tho

[karmic willow]

can't doxx myself lmfao

[heavy sinew]

Damn pogo still around after all these years

[bitter gate]

Or just specify a region

[karmic willow]

south east asia

i think that's vague enough

[gleaming cypress]

it really is

[rocky oasis]

yep despite niantic trying so hard to kill it

some of us still play out of spite

[bitter gate]

Not saying much, I'm literally SEA myself so

[gleaming cypress]

I wasn’t around when it was supposedly the most popular mobile game period

[bitter gate]

Could be anywhere

[heavy sinew]

classic Niantic

[karmic willow]

yeah

[bitter gate]

First letter of your country

[inner turret]

How is giving your country doxxing yourself anyway

Like yeah sure I'm gonna knock at every single door to find you

[karmic willow]

[dawn plume]

yea i sometimes wonder if mobile game devs make shitty decisions bc they’re tired of working on the game and want people to quit so they can move on

see: dena

[sturdy steeple]

😭

[inner turret]

Omw to listen to spark's podcast

[heavy sinew]

spark has a podcast?

[gleaming cypress]

where

[karmic willow]

wha?

[bitter gate]

I'm not ashamed of it

[inner turret]

Spark and the gang

[rocky oasis]

at least they aint netmarble!

[bitter gate]

We used to just talk lists on Spark's channel and stopped a year ago

When we became too busy

[karmic willow]

we should make a podcast too

like

[heavy sinew]

Mael you should be a guest speaker

[dawn plume]

same day pokemas anniversary datamine dropped they announced the $10/month premium pass for tcg go i know where dena’s priorities are

[hallow gull]

Maybe never

[karmic willow]

"why Moltres is an asshole" - Part 1

[gleaming cypress]

lmao

[karmic willow]

so true pyuko

I will still blame you if i don't get cynthia tmr

[inner turret]

Hey guys welcome to my ted talk anyway did you ever hear about the normal type

[karmic willow]

It never ends

[hallow gull]

Smh i’m so worried for tomorrow

[bitter gate]

Anywhere le sleep

Gn

[heavy sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/okokokok-clapping-hands-yay-excited-gif-24387954

[karmic willow]

so true now do the fanfic thingy

[heavy sinew]

nighty night

[gleaming cypress]

on todays ted talk: “why otherwise trash units are great for gauntlet-arven edition”

[inner turret]

I kinda want to develop my content a bit but

• im lazy
• idk what to do
• not a whale and barely a dolphin so no pairs

[heavy sinew]

real

[dawn plume]

arven not trash

he is immortal on god

[karmic willow]

he's just

arven

[hallow gull]

@karmic willow I even “đào mộ” my old phone to pull Cynthia tmr

[karmic willow]

bro don't you doxxed us fr

but

it's so real

[lost juniper]

Arven is quite the opposite of trash

[karmic willow]

i might have to

get my old phone too

[true tartan]

ah, finally, finished making Pasio circle work

[lost juniper]

His 1/5 kit is insanely good

[karmic willow]

the one that got me 5/5 ss red at 400 points at his first run

oof

[dawn plume]

need a new character to beg for

[gleaming cypress]

pasio circle feels slightly underwhelming

[heavy sinew]

banner priority put him in bottom

[dawn plume]

lear + 2 eggmons

he boutta TANK!!!

[lost juniper]

I they did?

[heavy sinew]

yep

[inner turret]

Carmine

[gleaming cypress]

yeah, that

[lost juniper]

I have many problems with them

[gleaming cypress]

eggmons eating good with the pasio circle

[dawn plume]

arven is an amazing tank

[river cliff]

I do wonder what would happen if you roll fissure in the ground dc

[heavy sinew]

immune to ohko

sadly

[gleaming cypress]

passive blocks it

[inner turret]

To be fair
That's all he does

Tank

[dawn plume]

arvens a way better tank than ss dawn lmao

[gleaming cypress]

no fun allowed

[inner turret]

He got almost no utility

[lost juniper]

Oh these are such trash takes

[dawn plume]

ss dawn has sprint exr though so better for DAMAGE!!!

[inner turret]

I think the placement is unfair but I understand it

[bitter gate]

#contentpolarity

[hallow gull]

Dawn is also C, heck i found that SS Dawn just garbage at 1/5

[bitter gate]

Different content prefers different stuff

[heavy sinew]

They even put a teardrop on him, they hate arven

[true tartan]

stuff can't be hardly tailored to cover all contents lol

[lost juniper]

Arven carries even at 1/5

Idk what lack of utilities he has

[inner turret]

This month Lance is angy

[heavy sinew]

Malva F

[lost juniper]

Lance should be higher than Cynthia

[heavy sinew]

Steven on top

[bitter gate]

Yeah but we have units that do war crimes in LG that non LG players think are shit because they dont do well outside etc

That's just content differences

[true tartan]

yup

that's what I meant lol