Champion Stadium

[lean lion]

Easiest option is to pick perma field param. And try to end the fight before Wallace uses Toxic, like Melissa said.

Yeah perma psychic terrain is what you want

[rapid osprey]

ok cool. worst case bianca terrain pairs well with gio

[lean lion]

You can run them together with a special support

[rapid osprey]

his dmg is truly nuts

[fading cradle]

that also makes the half ally mp param free for the most part since you wouldn’t have to reapply psychic terrain

[lean lion]

Bianca + Olympia/Giovanni

[fading cradle]

but some tms have 2 mp so yeahhhh

[rapid osprey]

true, and gio's mp is kinda useless on second application

[lean lion]

As long as you can max stats with half mp

[rapid osprey]

bc most good support will cover it

hm tentacruel is a mixed attacker so maybe not sycamore but

[lean lion]

You'll need someone to buff Giovanni's special atk

[rapid osprey]

sycamore would max it on sync

but then i have no source of +def

so the phys moves will hit hard

[lean lion]

Does Sycamore have powerboost and EX.

?

[rapid osprey]

nope

not until they rerun the kalos event

my giovanni was boosted from way way back when

[lean lion]

Better off going with another support. It's a waste to sync with Sycamore without the 2x sync buff imo

[rapid osprey]

ok so this might be insane but

sync with lyra first to set sun with solarize

use team toughen up to cover +def and permanent light screen for spdef

[fading cradle]

so i got teams for next week prepared (for hard mode bc i like doing hard mode first) but i have a strong feeling phoebe and sidney are gonna be offtyped in master mode 🧍‍♀️(1/5 sc barry pain)

idek about glacia either

[lean lion]

SC Barry will wreck Sidney no problem

I mean if Bugsy Noland can handle him

[swift swan]

idk about glacia either
bestie that's arc steven, you'll be fine

[lean lion]

For Phoebe, you can use the same team as last week

How dare you doubt ASS Steven?

[swift swan]

i mean everything looks doable on 3k MM. is Grimsley there for flinches and def debuffs? he's too slow

get Nanu instead

[fading cradle]

oh wait yeah whoops i forgot i left him there LOL

thought i moved him elsewhere

[swift swan]

nah arc steven is the best support for physical atm

keep him if you're not planning to use him anywhere else

[fading cradle]

he’s only 1/5 and so far i’m not really satisfied with his performance

[fading cradle]

🫡

[fading cradle]

i couldnt 3k dark weak phoebe last week with karen so idk if next week will be any different

[swift swan]

his bmove only usable every other turn is rough, but should be fine still

Karen works fine for Phoebe as long as you quadqueue well enough

which requires practice

[fading cradle]

that’s like the main reason i failed to 3k her with karen

i’m usually a button masher and it never works in my favor

[swift swan]

i button mash too

you get lucky after a while

[sharp willow]

i also button mash to quadqueue

you just gotta tap fast enough in my experience

[swift swan]

slow down your game to 1x (they say it helps)

[fading cradle]

which one is 1x again? i havent really changed the speed of the game in a while so i forgot which ones which lol

[sharp willow]

depends who you ask but it helps my consistency a fair bit

the lowest one

[fading cradle]

oh aight

all there’s left for me is pray for good rng

[lean lion]

This is my personal opinion, but the sooner you learn how to time quad queues the better. Makes so many runs that seem impossible doable.

[sharp willow]

quadqueue is a super helpful mechanic for sure

[lean lion]

I learned to do it by using audio queues. Once you get the timing down, it becomes 2nd nature.

[fading cradle]

does having adrenaline 1 have the same effect as quadqueue?

[lean lion]

Yes

[sharp willow]

yeah, adr1 works for that

[fading cradle]

wait shit i realized i do have that on leaf

[sharp willow]

especially helpful for Arc Suit Steven

[lean lion]

This is to say, we should encourage more new players to learn it asap

[fading cradle]

ive never really been a natural with quadqueing as you can see

[lean lion]

You'll get there. Like Nov said, it just takes some practice.

Try to incorporate it in your daily battles that are low stakes. It'll start to become easier to pull off in harder/sweatier battles with time.

[swift swan]

idk how much this helps, but i know people who time their quadqueue using the red circle that appears after you sync

when that circle goes off, that's your quadqueue window

personally i could never get it down

[sharp willow]

never even noticed that existed ngl

[fading cradle]

yeah i saw that in that quadqueue video but i can’t grasp it LOL

[rapid osprey]

unexpected lyra dub

[fading cradle]

no way a lyra clear?????

[rapid osprey]

had to adjust my params so she didnt die to the second attack before getting everything set up but

[fading cradle]

BASE lyra too?

[rapid osprey]

even if meganium only has one passive solar shield is so solid

and as long as you get at least one mpr on her tm post sync you have max spatk on giovanni basically for free

not to mention the tile that adds smun to that tm

but yeah wahoo new csmm pb

• week 212 | +added effects; +stat reduction; +spec; ∞ field; +status | csmm: 11000

phoebe -{ lodge dawn – ssr cynthia – dawn | 2000
glacia -{ colress – 5th anni lillie – redlax | 2500
sidney -{ penny – blue – skyla | 2000
drake -{ bertha – kukui – arc steven | 2250
wallace -{ bianca – giovanni – lyra | 2250

not too shabby B]

[undone ether]

for next week o.o

[rapid osprey]

oh youre gonna shred

hell yeah

[undone ether]

for next next week

[fading cradle]

wondering if i should ex sc barry or karen for next week’s stadium

[rapid osprey]

show your dark and bug rosters

and i can offer some degree of insight

its most likely barry, but

[rapid osprey]

ok yeah. you have a wider variety of good dark units, so even tho ex on karen would be nice its gonna help way more on barry

[nocturne pawn]

im actually about to kill someone

what the fuck do you mean phoebe got a double nat crit eq into crit shadow ball

[rapid osprey]

i presume youll be candying him too

[rapid osprey]

game rigged smh

[nocturne pawn]

BEST PART IS THAT SSRC HAS NOT CRIT HER SYNC 3 TIMES IN A ROW

[fading cradle]

i dont have enough resources to candy barry

[rapid osprey]

not imminently but over time

like, he will eventually get dupes youre not leaving him at 1/5

so the investment appreciates

[nocturne pawn]

i need to cake ssrc cuz using her in cs is so toxic

[fading cradle]

when in doubt, i can always whip out my overkill fire team at sidney next week

[swift swan]

brycen man

one thing you can do is bring brycen man with karen and a great gauge support

[fading cradle]

oh

i forgot about him

hmmmmm lemme see my supports

[rapid osprey]

yeah if you're gonna ex a dark unit it should be brycenman probably of your current roster

but also

i think barry will be better for the short term

brycen and karen will do fine without ex

[old orchid]

Brycen Man is not worth EXing unless 3/5

[fading cradle]

[rapid osprey]

yeah, but unlike karen he has exr

[fading cradle]

SHIT I FORGOT ONE SCREENSHOT

[rapid osprey]

specifically tech/strike

[fading cradle]

there

[rapid osprey]

so the overall value out of fewer spirits would be brycenman > karen

[old orchid]

EX 3/5 Karen beats non 3/5 Brycen with EXR

[rapid osprey]

ok but im not just talking immediate term is the point

[old orchid]

Not sure if melissa is willing to invest in Brycen

That's my point

[rapid osprey]

fair enough

[fading cradle]

i have enough for one tech coin but it’s not enough to 3/5 him

i’m willing to invest solely bc brycen is a fave

[rapid osprey]

real

[old orchid]

real

[rapid osprey]

me investing in riley, rika, and cynthia (and, when they eventually add her and complete my polyamory, raifort) like

[fading cradle]

so could i potentially replace lucian with brycen man and bring a support?

not sure who that support will be

[rapid osprey]

karen maxes her own spatk and crit; brycen doesnt quite max his own but close enough

so you want +speed and +whichever defenses matter for the fight

oh its her ghost wish set

so its 2 single target spec attacks, 1 single target phys attack, and phys sync

sawyer maybe?

[old orchid]

Sawyer's bulk is not quite good

You can pretty much run a bulky special support

Like Melony

[rapid osprey]

... special support? even tho the sync is phys?

like, we're going to be neutering the sp. atk anyway so probably +def +speed if we have to pick two, but

my thinking with sawyer was he can buff both defenses, has decent bulk if not great, and offers both mga and dark theme skills to boost hp

plus he gets karens spatk up without her needing to take damage first

[fading cradle]

damage????

[rapid osprey]

if you have a 4* supp candy i would say hes worth it here for getting sync burst + synchro heal if youre worried about sustain

or even just mpr

smth like this

i unfortunately only have rachel of the two so i cant test him out myself to see how well this might work but

[old orchid]

Sawyer needs to sync to get access to team recovery is not really good, especially Karen also wants to sync

When i said bulky special support, i meant someone who can buff special offensive stats while having good bulk

[rapid osprey]

do you not think you can do karen sync -> sawyer sync -> karen sync?

[old orchid]

With Melony you can perform turn denial with sleep

[peak lark]

noticed something about astonish units, are they busted?

[old orchid]

She has Team Regen Sync even

[old orchid]

The problem is that Sawyer can't live until his turn to sync

I have 5* 20/20 Sawyer and he still struggles to tank in CSMM

[rapid osprey]

damn. his stats seem like he should be able to tank just fine

[old orchid]

The HP is damn low

And the defense stats are quite average

Not to mention the lack of on demand recovery and slow defensive buffings

He has stun at least but i doubt you have enough gauge cuz the other 2 also consume many gauge bars per attack

[gleaming jolt]

Wdym by Astonish Unit?
Are you saying flinchers??

[manic mica]

Next week teams , looking for feedback

[lean lion]

Sidney - replace one of the supports with another damage dealer (Bugsy or 3/5+ Guzma)

Glacia - Why is Wulfric there? Can replace him with another damage dealer.

Drake - Replace one of the supports for either Bertha or Courtney, move level doesn't matter.

Steven and Phoebe - Good

[manic mica]

Sidney- I used Skyla for defense and gauge support while Morgan took care of the offensive buffs while I spammed Fury Cutter with Noland but I can try that.

Glacia- cuz

Drake- Sure but I doubt I'll need it since Cynthia one shots but we will see.

Thanks!

Although tbh with Morgan you don't really need that much gauge support considering my moves take really low gauges

(but I just got her EX'd so wanted to try her)

[lean lion]

Noland needs to keep spamming Fury Cutter to keep up the buff. That's why ne needs a 2nd pair to nuke and additional dps. But you can grid him for sync nuke as well. Just know that you might fall short with just him trying to deal all the damage.

[manic mica]

Yeah I get that , my plan was to sync once for mega Pinsir then just sync with supps but if it falls short then I'll try a nuker

[near coral]

I need to have a look and see what I can maybe use for next week. Hopefully I can also fully finish up the badge (For all 18 types being used)

10 types left to use which isn't ideal though

[peak stirrup]

Pretty rare my SSR Cynthia struggles with ghost stages but I guess first time for everything

[mellow linden]

SSR Cynthia + a 2nd Ghost damage-dealer should be shredding Ghost weak stages

[peak stirrup]

Sync and Shadow force wasn’t enough even with Fantina and NC Calem

[lean lion]

Maybe a param isssue

[mellow linden]

I’d recommend avoiding Shadow Force unless you literally cannot use anything else since it screws up Sync countdown

[true bloom]

I forgot, in special stadium, is the master mode unlocked immediately from the start?

[gleaming jolt]

Yes

[true bloom]

Oh wow good to know, thanks (⁠・⁠∀⁠・⁠)

[mellow linden]

You don’t unlock the ability to reset the run until Master Mode is unlocked, and Special CS doesn’t have an automatic weekly reset like regular CS does

So if Master Mode weren’t automatically unlocked it wouldn’t even be accessible at all since you are physically unable to get the full 18 types on a type medal in a single run

[sharp willow]

just gotta unlock it on the rerun in 25 months

[pastel lantern]

Any recomendiations for what point options are the easiest to complete 3K champion stadium?

[mellow linden]

It depends a lot on the team(s) you’re using and your personal needs/preferences, there isn’t any “one size fits all” for 3k

[toxic cobalt]

Use the 2.5k base in the pins and add what you can

[fading cradle]

really random question bc i’m curious, if hoenn, sinnoh, and kalos are considered the harder stadiums, which regions are considered to be easier?

[old orchid]

the rest

personally i consider Kanto and Unova to be the easiest regions, despite Unova being introduced later than Johto

because of Koga

[fading cradle]

unova i can definitely see. i came to unova stadium as a newbie after getting beaten up by kalos expecting to get squashed but just breezed through it, it was super easy barely an inconvenience

definitely gonna have to try csmm in kanto and unova then, i didnt attempt them back then bc i was a coward ☠️

[old orchid]

[fading cradle]

is koga difficult or something lol

[old orchid]

he is more annoying tbh

[lean lion]

Flying and Fire weak Koga are really annoying

[fading cradle]

not much different from his battles in the games i see

[old orchid]

fun fact: Flying weak Koga was designed for NY Lance

[fading cradle]

💀

[old orchid]

so he had Wise Entry x2 and sides had Sentry Entry x2

i blame Lance

[fading cradle]

sorry flying weak koga, may i introduce you to champion cheren then

he may be a special attacker but he’ll still sweep i hope bet

[fading cradle]

what are the gimmicks with fire weak koga?

[old orchid]

with good supports he can brute force just fine

[fading cradle]

me staring at skyla and vfalkner who are usually leftovers for a cheren team once i place my op supports on different teams

[lean lion]

toughen and tighten up 9 + crit shield before sync

[fading cradle]

💀 goofy ahh koga

[old orchid]

and Look Alive 1

[lean lion]

forgot about that

[fading cradle]

guess he’ll meet 3/5 ss hilda, 2/5 ss morty, and 1/5 ny wallace who are all 6* + exr, would be a shame

[lean lion]

yeah that too, but its only 20% chance, still annoying

[lean lion]

blow em up with first sync, I like

[fading cradle]

oh he’s gonna get burnt when johto stadium comes back around

[old orchid]

he deserves to be nuked

[calm marsh]

Enemy 20% is 50%

[fading cradle]

sorry koga you are my fave kanto leader but sometimes even my faves need a beating

like lance in the kanto stadium

so i take it that will, bruno, and karen are “easier” than koga if that’s the best term to use for them?

[lean lion]

all other stages are a breeze iirc

[old orchid]

they are still easy generally, but they still have annoying and/or inconvenient gimmicks

[calm marsh]

Agatha even shot herself with her tm

[old orchid]

like Ghost weak Will has Impervious

[fading cradle]

what’s that again

[old orchid]

debuff immunity

[fading cradle]

silly agatha

[fading cradle]

oh. free no stat reduction points?

[old orchid]

yeah, but some Ghost dmg dealers don't like that

SS Korrina sad noises

[calm marsh]

Tbf cant debuff him is really anoying

[fading cradle]

oops, looks like yarrdenia and sc irida won’t be lowering bro’s stats then

out of all passives, they gave him one that gives the ghost pairs a disadvantage??????

[old orchid]

mainline accurate Xatu

[fading cradle]

and he has sentry and wise entry 1? so he gets his defenses raised by 1 stat and you can’t even lower them 💀

[calm marsh]

They really want you to crit them

[lean lion]

crits will ignore stat ranks so its okay

[calm marsh]

[fading cradle]

ah right that

still goofy that i can’t use yarrdenia to weaken him

[lean lion]

Cant even poison stall him ig

[fading cradle]

yeah what the fuck is wrong with poison weak will too 💀 hostile environment

[lean lion]

or just power through without debuffing

[fading cradle]

lol what if i bring ss morty who i have antitoxin on for some weird reason to poison weak will fight

[lean lion]

laughs in SS Lear

[fading cradle]

☺️

yeah i’m just researching johto’s gimmicks (if i’m not wrong, they’re after hoenn in rotation) and yeah, these gimmicks sound so annoying

[calm marsh]

Koga still the most anoying one for me

Anoying passive

High HP

Crit shield (ew)

[fading cradle]

yuck

i gotta nuke him before sync

[lean lion]

you'll be fine, outside the few stages mentioned here, the rest arent too bad

[calm marsh]

Cant wait for next CS Factory

[fading cradle]

fire weak koga is just 💀 wdym bro raises evasion AND defenses when you hit him

[calm marsh]

I got too much fun last time

[lean lion]

its usually during server anni right?

[calm marsh]

I think so ?

I only have attempted it once

[lean lion]

I missed the most recent one due to irl stuff 😦

[calm marsh]

My CS factory was just sleep them to dead

[fading cradle]

grass weak bruno has cs2?

hmmm, it would be a shame if i brought someone with vigilance…

[old orchid]

he doesn't use dire hit until right after his first sync

so it's barely a threat

[calm marsh]

• Lorelei (4750): SST Red-Anabel-Dana
• Agatha (4800): SC Irida-Roxanne-Agatha
• Bruno (4400): Adaman-Hilbert-Ramos
• Lance (5000): Anni Lillie-NC Calem-Melony
• Blue (4400): Clemont-BP Janine-SC Jasmine

3/5 stage had sleep

[lean lion]

only a 20% chance to crit before that

[fading cradle]

bug weak karen when my best bug striker is sc barry

[lean lion]

All roads lead back to Bugsy + Noland. The best bug type duo!!

[fading cradle]

both are ex?

[lean lion]

those are some crazy high scores damn

[lean lion]

neither EXd, level 120-140 is all they need

supp EX helps a lot

[calm marsh]

Tbf i had really good rosters and that was Kanto CS after all

[fading cradle]

ahhh, who’s the support?

[old orchid]

i still remember the first CS Factory being held during Sinnoh CS

[lean lion]

5k on Lance is so disrespecful lmao

[fading cradle]

don’t disrespect my man like that 😢

[calm marsh]

Moonblast dps Anni Lillie too lol

[lean lion]

anyone who can max atk and crit, I usually go with either Aaron or Hop depending on enemy moves

[gleaming jolt]

I have seen a Moltress clear with Noland's Fury cutter with flinch, you can try him along side SC Barry and support!

[fading cradle]

aaron it is, love my boy

[gleaming jolt]

Infinite fury cutters

[lean lion]

yeah they can be run together if you dont have bug zone

[fading cradle]

now that you said that, i might have to level up noland just to slot him in for bug weak sidney next week…

[calm marsh]

Sinnoh is hard

[fading cradle]

i wonder if exing a 1/5 sc barry is worth it just so i can stop struggling on bug weak stages

his performance without investment is pretty underwhelming to me

[lean lion]

Its not a bad investment but I honestly dont think Barry needs it for 3k CS

[fading cradle]

it just hurts that his b move can only be used every other turn

pin missle lmfao who would have thought

[lean lion]

does Barry's Piercing Gaze function like psuedo No Quarter?

[fading cradle]

what is no quarter

[calm marsh]

It makes move that has multiple hit always land 5 hits

[old orchid]

that's the big reason to always sync with Barry first

[calm marsh]

Sync Tax

[lean lion]

ahhhh i see

No quarter post sync

[fading cradle]

oh

so if i were to put non ex sc barry and ex aaron on a team together, barry wants the first sync more?

[old orchid]

yes, he always wants to sync first

so he can spam B Move every other turn

[lean lion]

this may be the reason you've been finding him underwhelming Melissa

[fading cradle]

that might be it

i’ll try this with him next week in bug weak sidney battle

[signal garnet]

Is this a good score?

[sick inlet]

All about perspective

[mellow linden]

As long as you’re comfortable with it you’re fine

~4200 total (850 per stage gets 4250 total) gets you all the important rewards, everything past that is far less valuable

[signal garnet]

Alright so 4200 is the sweet spot thanks for telling

[rain turret]

as you progress and get more pairs and ex them, you'll get to 15k at some point

[signal garnet]

ooooooooooooooooooooooo

that would also require some luck in getting good weaknesses on the opponents

also how do you get lvl 2 champion stadium?

does it even exist?

[fading cradle]

no

[mellow linden]

It does not

The “lvl 1” is meaningless

[eternal lodge]

nah, just wait 10 years for the lv 2 champion stadium

[fading cradle]

ultra coping

[eternal lodge]

I think im ready for next week

[brave halo]

Hmm OK this isn't so much who is better but rather asking who should get the finishing line tomorrow?

Oh nevermind, lillie it is, I forgot I used argenta's victory back in sinnoh, even if it is the same as lunala

[wheat dragon]

huh

so...special stadium, eh?

man did they pick a poor time to be steel weak

[fading cradle]

not being able to quadqueue once again being the death of me, how the fuck do you do this

[manic kiln]

Somehow easier to mono than some other types, don’t have Lear and ASteven

[loud stratus]

is this red's 2nd pasio stadium?

[lean lion]

+quadqueue

[frozen depot]

Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

• If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
• If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)

[fading cradle]

trust i watched this video quite a few times already and always resort to button mashing too, and it NEVER works in my favor

[calm marsh]

Done 2 mono steel duo so far

[trail smelt]

Man I only got 17 Steels to work with not counting eggs

[lean lion]

Don't button mash. Try to time it. Only so many times you can mess that up. Once you're kinda familiar with it, only a matter of repetition for it to become consistent.

[trail smelt]

19

[lean lion]

Button mashing is too unreliable on top of dealing with stage RNG

[fading cradle]

i hate glacia, anyways bertha r2. is there even a way to counter head start 1

[undone ether]

Take thissss

[fading cradle]

that thing said to time quadqueue right when the spiral fades huh? then idk why i can’t time it right

[old orchid]

in order to do quad queue reliably, you need to practice a lot

[fading cradle]

sighhhh

[silver dirge]

It really is just a matter of getting used to it

[fading cradle]

does the enemy having adrenaline 1 also affect quadqueue? this time i was actually able to time it right but bertha still managed to sync

[silver dirge]

Yes it does

Well, not quadqueue itself, but you're one sync cycle behind

[fading cradle]

man then there’s no way i’m able to 3k her now are you serious

[silver dirge]

So even with quadqueue you need to interrupt them somehow to get ahead (flinch, freeze, sleep)

[fading cradle]

my hatred for steel weak bertha grows every day

[fading cradle]

fuck i already used vfalkner too 😔 he’s my best interference and status applier

[silver dirge]

What team are you running at the moment?

[fading cradle]

i was trying to run my nc nate arc suit lance team with leaf as the support

[lean lion]

you can either rush -3 sync (Anni Lillie + someone with -1) or sleep/flinch hacks

[silver dirge]

The output there should be very strong - are you close?

[trail smelt]

What the hell 50% damage?

[fading cradle]

VERY close two times. but the inability to quadqueue killed me the first time and adrenaline 1 literally existing killed me the second time

[calm marsh]

It has passive so dont worry about it

[trail smelt]

Oh yeah Steadfast 9 lol

[silver dirge]

Try adjusting your bulk a little bit

Reduce some HP or Strength if possible

[fading cradle]

what params can i even put? i feel like i’m out of options

[silver dirge]

Mm you are stretched pretty thin

How is survivability?

Wait you're running Leaf right? Does she have staggering gridded

[fading cradle]

without the earthquake and high horsepower rng? okay i guess

[silver dirge]

If you can flinch one of their moves (and quadqueue successfully) you can overcome bertha's headstart

the 2nd sync should let you clear

[fading cradle]

doesn’t seem like i have that gridded. idk what to change her grid to just to accommodate that though

[silver dirge]

Let me have a look. You'll also want to drop the interference param

[silver dirge]

You don't need crit squad nor Ramped up for this team

Endurance will also help

[fading cradle]

got it, what do i replace no interference with?

[silver dirge]

If you quadqueue you don't need Adrenaline 1, but you can also just get that through lucky skill

[silver dirge]

Try Def 1

[wheat dragon]

awkward realization: I have 12 steel units but only a few strikers

and many i have no practice with

maybe this wont be as easy as I thought

[fading cradle]

the rng is so shit…

ofc leaf doesn’t flinch bertha until bertha uses a STATUS MOVE, i’m gonna snap my phone in half

[silver dirge]

Hold on - your team is NC Nate & AS Lance yeah? Lance's BMove is special & the big brunt of your damage

[fading cradle]

aw man so does that mean i have to turn off the special reduction param or something

[silver dirge]

Hm drop special dmg reduction & strength 1, pickup Max HP 4

Save that BMove until after you've synced

And have -6 def spDef on target

It should do a ton of damage, more than enough to offset the extra HP

[fading cradle]

i was about to ask that lmao, alrighty

[lean lion]

You'll need to quad queue the bmove though I think

[silver dirge]

If Leaf can get in a stagger should be fine

[lean lion]

It's HS1, even with stagger Lance syncs when Bertha sync is ready. No?

[fading cradle]

so do i sync with lance or leaf first then 😭

[silver dirge]

I'm under the impression they're going to have Adr1 on Leaf but if not then yes

[silver dirge]

What move levels are your Lance & Nate?

[fading cradle]

nate is 3/5 lance is 2/5

[silver dirge]

Sync with Nate for first sync

No need to QQ there Nate's BMove has -1 accel

• Nate takes 1st sync and queues a BMove after his sync without quadqueue. Make sure you have Unova Circle up before his sync
• Leaf is looking to get a stagger on one of the enemies
• 2nd sync can go to Lance, I'd be surprised if the stage is still alive, but quadqueue his BMove

This is stringent on Nate having his EXR though, if that's not the case give first sync to Leaf instead

[fading cradle]

holy shit it worked, thank you so much for your time, arch

[silver dirge]

thought it would no problem!

[frosty pilot]

such a chill CS (15k)

[old orchid]

This is easier than I thought 1 hour ago I even doubted myself and considered using all pairs having Steel move for the self challenge

Details: #1053291896778264597 message

[fading cradle]

15k

fuck glacia fuck bertha fuck glacia fuck bertha fuck glacia fuck bertha fuck glacia fuck bertha

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[old orchid]

Relatable

[trail smelt]

DAMMIT

14/15 steel monotype

Has to give on Glacia and substitute in Ash

[manic mica]

What is Pasio Special Stadium and What does it do

[true bloom]

Special Stadium based on Neo Champion where every stage has the same weakness

Currently it's Red CS with steel weakness

[exotic orchid]

Excuse me but someone knows how to get all 18 badges? I mean, there were five battles, 3 each, counts as 15 in total badges i collected, different types per battle.. Anything i'm missing? I could show picture but, doesn't allow me to, just doing it for those 1500 first time crystals

[true bloom]

Need 2 week to complete 18 types

And tomorrow is reset so you can clear 15 now

[exotic orchid]

@true bloom oh so it carries per week, the medal collection i mean? Thanks a lot for the assistance.

[true bloom]

Yupp and no problem 👍

[lean lion]

First time mono-typing a Special CS!

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[calm marsh]

Video for my clear : #1100102557109588099 message

[sick inlet]

Don't have the 2 most op
But have everything else the type has to offer

[sick inlet]

My tip is actually quite funny, button mash but slowly

Like I used to always mash because the videos never did me any justice

But now the sweet spot for me is to tap repeatedly, just not too quick

Might take a few tries to get used to it

[calm marsh]

Meanwhile when i try to mash, i cant quad queue it

[sick inlet]

Try the slow mash tech

[calm marsh]

I need some kinda beats

[sick inlet]

Ill turn you all into slow mashers

I wonder if i can record it

My phone probably explodes if I do

[lean lion]

Just as another example: I use the sound of sync landing on the enemy to time qq. The tips in the video are nice, but you'll have to figure out what works best for you as a queue.

[sick inlet]

The best visual cue to use is the "aura" your pokemon gets after the sync
You can start pressing after that

(But Slow mashing the best, why focus on aura when you can braindead quadqueueueueue)

[lean lion]

queue as in indication ( dont know if thats the correct word)

[sick inlet]

Cue is the word you want
And the word I also wanted

[manic kiln]

Other than steven at 3/5 all of the limited are 1/5. if we had 15 non limited steel units I would have used them

[sick inlet]

Cue and queue
Pronounced the same
Whooosh

[versed meteor]

Where lvl1 lear clear?

[sick inlet]

I mean most base kits are really solid for some of these

I am a believer of many 1/5 > 1 3/5

[manic kiln]

Yeah more units is always better than 1 strong unit

[sick inlet]

Just put him next to Steven, he will clear at lvl 1

[near coral]

So how hard is the new stadium?

[manic kiln]

Even the old 2020 2021 units can 3k at 1/5 with the right supports

[sick inlet]

How's your steel roster

[grand trout]

It's hard by virtue of lack of good steel units

[manic kiln]

Bertha and Glacia are still annoying to deal with for most players

[grand trout]

But otherwise manageable

[near coral]

Got to check fully for details but 3/5 Arc Steven can handle any of the fights at least. Anniversary Lillie and Bettie with Solgaleo should hopefully help with another

[sick inlet]

Everything is hard by the lack of [insert type here]

Steven is your free out of jail card
Can solo any of the 5 stages

Easily

[grand trout]

Theres a permafield stage so there's that

[near coral]

Either way, odds are I'll throw Steven at Red but the rest I'll have to consider

Maybe throw Arc Cynthia into one of the matches. She's not steel but she is one of my stronger units (That and not got 15 steel anyway so...)

[grand trout]

Red wants to overwrite his ice zone

So you can use solgalillie with him as well

[grand trout]

You just need around 5 steel strikers tbh

Not strikers mb, nukes/dps

[near coral]

3/5 Jasmine/Steelix, 3/5 Grimsley/Bisharp, 3/5 Arc Steven, 5/5 Hop/Zamazenta, 5/5 Bettie/Solgaleo, 5/5 Anni Lillie. That's the steels I have that aren't base four star

[eternal lodge]

3/5 Arc Steven 😳

[violet spindle]

Can I post my 15k special CS run ss here or is there better channel ?

[near coral]

I will say Hop and Protagonist Solgaleo do lack the full sync grid which sucks but it is what it is

[lean lion]

It's okay to share it as long as no one is being actively helped here. But if you like sharing you CS and other clears, you can also start a https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1010274591601598555 post.

[violet spindle]

Thx.

[shadow notch]

Please advise modifiers that do not fit the type.(Sorry if Google translated it wrong)

[lean lion]

I think thats Glacia? You want a sp def buffer instead of Sonia. Also, send your params so we can look them over.

[old orchid]

Avoid picking Standard Damage Reduction when you are doing offtype at all cost

[left storm]

Funky special stadium, wish I had poppy to 1v3 all E4s but whatever

Also lear 1/5 goes gard

[old orchid]

Urshifu and Nidoking my favorite Steel types

[near coral]

Curious on the only one pokemon used teams though... why not 3?

More points for one only?

[lean lion]

For the challenge

[near coral]

I see

[old orchid]

We do self challenge for fun and we hate ourselves

[near coral]

Least I don't need to worry about that then. So long as I can somehow scrape a clear that's good enough for me

I am still dreading the next lot for the regular stadium though... got to force types I've not used yet into the teams

[lean lion]

Swap Sonia for Penny and use these parameters

[left storm]

Ikr

I tried Gloria Riley

But Riley steel damage is ass

[left storm]

As gakon said, challenge

Once you play the game enough stadium becomes extremely boring without some self imposed challenge

[gleaming jolt]

Done!

[manic mica]

Missing a few big hitters here, who do you think I should invest in to beat 3k? Or should I save resources and try some cheesy strats instead

Or is it just possible with what I have? Not pictures is 3/5 Gloria&Urshifu, 3/5 Gioking and 5/5 Riley

[true bloom]

It's possible I think? but you might need good supports?
I got 3k with 1/5 Gloria

I saw Gakon clear earlier too with f2p teams hmmm

Where was that

[gleaming jolt]

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[true bloom]

Oh yupp there we go

[gleaming jolt]

We use very much same team against Glacia!

[true bloom]

HAHAHA almost, I don't have Leon though 😂

[gleaming jolt]

All steel is not that tough, so you can offtype Grimsley and Olivia!
Also use Anni Lillie 2024 or SC Selene against NC Red for the zone!

And against Bertha you can use MC Solgaleo

You can offtype Glacia too with a very good Special striker!

[manic mica]

Thank you all so much

[shadow notch]

Thank you more

[gleaming jolt]

SS Kris can't replace ice zone!
But you won anyways! Great!

[manic mica]

Oh yeah, I have Arc Suit Lance I completely forgot/blocked out the memory, I just need to remember to take Standard Damage Reduction OFF

[lean lion]

Nicely done!

[gleaming jolt]

I felt the Steel Special Stadium much easier than electric one!

[true bloom]

Electric one was hell but that's probably because I was still new-ish too at that time hmm

[old orchid]

Steel type is an accessible type, so it's huge factor

And Electric CS was more annoying overall

[gleaming jolt]

Yeah!

[old orchid]

Pretty much only Bertha and Glacia are annoying, some people may consider Red too

[gleaming jolt]

1 triple axel and AS Steven reach 13% HP!

[velvet parcel]

First Pasio Special Stadium with NC Bede

[shadow notch]

Yes, but the main thing is already behind us)))

[grand trout]

Did we already have a cs where red is the champion or am i just tripping

[gleaming jolt]

Yeah we had a fire weak earlier

I guess before electric?

[grand trout]

He wanted to overwrite the hail that time right?

[gleaming jolt]

Idk

[old orchid]

Correct

[urban needle]

I had fun ngl, steel is my fav type

[old orchid]

It'a weird and reasonable at the same time about this CS. Only Red has a pokemon being weak to Steel among NCs

Wait nvm there is NC Silver

[grand trout]

I guess it's because silver would summon a sandstorm

And weather manipulation is not exactly original

so is zone manipulation but hey

[old orchid]

I think the reason that they didnt't choose Silver is that some Steel benefit from sandstorm

[grand trout]

Oh that too

[old orchid]

or they want to tease people waiting for Red rerun

[rain turret]

had to do 2 off-types, but still got 15k

[idle warren]

Can I use the same team for the whole event stadium

Or is it just like regular CS

Oh nvm

[lean lion]

You need 5 teams for the 5 stages

[idle warren]

Ok for the best rewards am I supposed to have about this many points for each battle?

[lean lion]

Yeah, that's how many you need on average to get the gold move candy coin

[idle warren]

Okay ty

[bitter veldt]

Awesome...

Ty Lear... 🥲

[manic mica]

This was surprisingly easy. Mine looks hella lame compared to most but 15k is 15k

[keen jasper]

Now do all of them on-type

[manic mica]

Here's the fun part. I don't have 5 steel type units!

jk I have 5 not 6 tho

[left storm]

You definitely can have 5

• wikstrom
• molayne
• solgaleo
• hop
• solgaleo 2
• Alola Grimsley

Pick your favourite destroyer of worlds

[idle warren]

Trying to do master mode cs but no idea how to clear the e4 without using my strongest units. Any advice?

I have the standard preset btw

[noble plaza]

Is Sidney particularly weak to physical or special moves or does it not matter?

[idle warren]

Im not really sure, this is all it has on the boss tips page

[mellow linden]

Doesn’t matter

[noble plaza]

Why is Maylene there? I feel like she's best with physical attackers

[idle warren]

I wish I could tell you, I think its because last time I used this team I was out of supports

[mellow linden]

You may want to consider rolling with different teammates if you’re gonna use Blue, yeah

[idle warren]

I can send all the supports I have if that helps

Its slightly outdated

[mellow linden]

Go for it

[mellow linden]

If you’re not using Morgan elsewhere she’s a great pick

And the 3rd team member can be a gauge Support and/or Sp. Def. debuffer

[idle warren]

Even at 1/5?

[idle warren]

Oh, do I not really need trapping against sidney?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, Morgan’s 3/5 is nice, but leans more towards QoL

[idle warren]

Ohh okay

[mellow linden]

Nope, he doesn’t have anything that requires it. The in-game recommendations can be a bit arcane and will sometimes treat decreased resistance to a particular status change or debuff the same as actually restrictive gimmicks

[idle warren]

Okay thats really good to know

[mellow linden]

In Sidney’s case, Trap is more effective against him than it usually would be in CS, but he doesn’t have any gimmicks that require a status change (like Trap or other interferences) to be dealt with

[idle warren]

Thx again!

[noble plaza]

Should I R3 Phoebe or Glacia?

(The special attack boosted one)

I don't really have any special steel pairs besides 1/5 Raihan and Duraludon

[fading cradle]

if anything, it’s advised to avoid those two specifically for r3 unless you have some strong damage dealers that can take them out before they sync or a strong tank who can take their hits

[noble plaza]

... I didn't think about that but I feel pretty alright about Phoebe because I have SC Irida

[fading cradle]

sc irida should be able to handle the stage easily

[manic mica]

The first two would definitely need investments that I can't afford , even if I could it wouldn't be "efficient" and I would like to be "efficient" rather than "torturing myself for bragging rights"

[left storm]

They just need to be 5* to survive more but they definitely can beat 3k at 4* with decent supports enhancing them

[manic mica]

Can't afford the 4* PU's unfortunately

[left storm]

Well 4* is possible

Just needs supports

Molayne + leaf ex + a filler unit can definitely take out either Olivia or Grimsley easily

[manic mica]

It's not Olivia or grimsley or Glacia that's the problem.

It's the stupid grandma with too much HP , too much HP , too much defense

Thankfully Arc Cyn allowed me to 3k easily

But yea , for future reference I will keep that in mind

[left storm]

Well for glacia Anni Lillie 24 is pretty easy

Debuffs speed and spa

And had potions and nerves of steel to avoid to get twoshot

Even on heavy params

[manic mica]

Hmm , alright

I could try that

[cold tusk]

for some reason kept thinking anni lillie was special lul

3 battles till i realized it was physical and why i wasnt doing any dmg

[gaunt condor]

quick question, is it possible to clear the new stadium event without many op, s tier sync pairs? im trying to get to 11k points by having 2.2k on each fight, but glacia and grimsley i can't seem to beat (im saving lillie and arc steven for red)

[cold tusk]

ezy

[mellow linden]

Should be plenty doable. You’re not required to on-type the stages, you can always off-type or Poison stall if you don’t have a lot of Steel pairs available

[left storm]

Steven is enough for red

Lillie is great for glacia

[gaunt condor]

i see, follow up question, if i want to reach 2.2k on each fight, is it better to take many low point parameters or a couple of the high point parameters? are there any recommendations for which to take?

[mellow linden]

You can always use the 2k parameter presets in the pins and take some low-impact parameters to make up the 200-point difference

[manic mica]

Finally got there. 15k. MVPs:

[covert badger]

first on type special stadium lfg

put steven on auto and folded my laundry 💀

[versed sorrel]

Rank each battle from easiest to hardest

[gaunt condor]

is there a guide to play this game in general? even with lillie i cant clear, i must be doing something wrong, i dont get it

[left storm]

Glacia is easily the hardest
Then bertha and red
Then other two

[left storm]

Try recording and posting a failed clear so we can help

[mellow linden]

When it comes to CS Master Mode issues clearing are usually team- or parameter-related. What’s the team and what parameters are you using?

[manic mica]

Yeah send over screenshots, it's enabled in this chat for all

[mellow linden]

What round is this?

[gaunt condor]

glacia

[mellow linden]

I mean when are you facing her (from 1st to 4th)?

[gaunt condor]

3rd

still have grimsley and red to go

[mellow linden]

That’s a double-whammy of problems then, since only 1 cast of Steel Zone means an overall harder fight due to Sentry Entry x2 and round 3 boosts Glacia’s damage a lot

I’d recommend coming back to Glacia on round 4 so you don’t have to deal with her getting boosted damage

[karmic zephyr]

I need help to fast clear this

Cause I had a busy week

tried going for 1.5k with Nate/Jasmine/Sawyer against Sidney

Didn't work

And yes Cobalt said not to go for Nate but he is my only flying striker and he's 3/5. And my other options is Blue Pidgeot 4/5

plus, I grided him too

so idk

[old orchid]

Blue is way better than Nate

Nate is definitely not your only Flying strike

[karmic zephyr]

Yeah I have Kahili too

Kahili Blue and Nate

So Blue?

[old orchid]

Yes

[karmic zephyr]

Okay how's Sawyer and Jasmine with him?

and I need to check which grids do I take with him

okay got the grids on blue

I need someone with potion instead of Sawyer or Jasmine

[lucid solstice]

Does your Nate have EX?

[karmic zephyr]

No I'm a new player

[lucid solstice]

And sawyer is the 4-star one?

[karmic zephyr]

yes, kinda useless ngl

Replaced him with Sabrina though and somehow she was more useless

[lucid solstice]

He's not that great of a pair

[lucid solstice]

That's because SE Dark

[karmic zephyr]

SE?

[lucid solstice]

Super Effective. As in Sabrina is weak to Dark moves

[karmic zephyr]

ohhhh

right right

Tbh Jasmine isn't that great of a choice either

But maybe I should put another pair that raises def

[lucid solstice]

The thing is Sydney has Special damage for sync move, so you want to buff SpDef

[karmic zephyr]

I'm trying to pre sync

I can use Elio Popplio

I'll evolve it

If it's better

[fading cradle]

elio is weak to grass

[karmic zephyr]

oh damn you're right

[lucid solstice]

They have a Sceptile there so yeah, not a good decision

Honestly I will change Sawyer to either BP Clemont, Olivia or Morty

[karmic zephyr]

Let me check who I have

[lucid solstice]

For BP pair, you don't need more than 1/5 unless they are going to be the main tank

[karmic zephyr]

why did you pick clemont though?

I'm checking his moves now

[lucid solstice]

BP Clemont & Magneton

[karmic zephyr]

oh I was looking at heliolisk

[lucid solstice]

All the 3 pairs I mentioned are from BP, and they give good defense buffs

Morty is the breadwinner for having Flinch/Confuse, +4Def/Spdef and also Potion

[karmic zephyr]

I have Olivia

I have Morty too

So I was only missing Clemont

OH WAIT

I'm totally talking about a different Morty

[lucid solstice]

You want BP Morty & Mismagius

[karmic zephyr]

I have Drifblim

So I guess Olivia it is

With Lycanroc right?

[lucid solstice]

The 3 pairs I mentioned can be exchanged from BP store. Do you have any BP vouchers?

[karmic zephyr]

I don't have any 5 star ones

I have 4 stars

[fading cradle]

bp olivia is with carbink

[lucid solstice]

No, the 4-stars

They are all 4-stars

[fading cradle]

all those bp pairs mentioned above are 4 star

[karmic zephyr]

why am I so dumb

tell me

So I get Morty I guess

[lucid solstice]

I can imagine this game can be overwhelming for new players without any guide

He's definitely the best out of all 4-star there. Though you need to watch out for his SE Dark

[karmic zephyr]

Also I wanted to ask

With Blue

Do I buff 2 turns with his TM?

and then which attack do I do?

[lucid solstice]

You should be spamming Hurricane for best output

[karmic zephyr]

yes but I'm asking before that

take 2 turns for TM?

[lucid solstice]

As much TM you can get, since the TM also buffs his SpAtk

I suppose you do 2 TM and then SpAtk to get +6 SpAtk with this grid

[karmic zephyr]

there's something very strange happening

so you know how before I used Blue, Jasmine and Sawyer and somehow I managed to defeat 2/3 pokemon before sync

after I changed Sawyer, I can't defeat anyone

It's a crit thing right

[idle warren]

Is it okay for me to do a stage w/ 2300 points instead

Can I still get all the rewards

Im p sure I need 2500 minimum for each stage but idk

[vague solar]

Like for all the rewards?

[idle warren]

Yea

[vague solar]

You need 3k on every stage

[idle warren]

Ohhhh….

[vague solar]

Tho you get the important rewards with like

2.2k?

[idle warren]

Thats good enough for me lol

Ty

[karmic zephyr]

I can't with this game

[old orchid]

What parameters are you using

[karmic zephyr]

Vinny how can you even 2.3k each stage? I can't even 1.5k myself and you said you had trouble with teams. Get out of here 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[old orchid]

You want to use a spdef buffer + a potion bot like someone pointed out earlier

[karmic zephyr]

the 1.5k preset. Maybe I changed the special attack ones with something else but not def/hp parameters

I also changed the gradual healing with no weather change

which was a great thing to do

it's the useless team that keeps dying with everything

😭 😭 😭

I wanna cry

[old orchid]

Lemme check the preset later. If you wanna stay at 1.5k range you can just pick GHealing and remove 150 pts worth of offensive option

[karmic zephyr]

somehow barely managed to clear it with blue 10% only alive

okay let's see round 2

who should I do

Drake?

[old orchid]

Depends on your team comp

[karmic zephyr]

Round 2 I'm supposed to lower stats

[old orchid]

You should use a debuff-focused comp on this round

[karmic zephyr]

wait let me check the other rounds

[old orchid]

You don't need to do that

But you can use round parameters to your advantage

I mean, you don't need to always follow the round parameter. They sometimes limit your teambuilding. As long as they don't benefit the opponents badly

[karmic zephyr]

mhm

I will keep Drake for round 3

I'll do Glacia now

[idle warren]

Lol it was just for 1 stage and I used ss lear + one of my only ex supports

[karmic zephyr]

I will get more angry if I talk more about this 😂

[old orchid]

then don't talk about it

let's keep this as a friendly and helpful chat

[karmic zephyr]

are the round buffs designed for specific trainers?

Like Sidney 1 Phoebe 2 etc

[old orchid]

nope, none of the special rules is designed for particular stages

this is the same to every CS region

[karmic zephyr]

okay I was really wondering

okay

hmm I guess Glacia is where I off type

I don't have any special steel striker

damn

will it be stupid if I try Cyrus Palkia?

I want to save Marnie for the end

[fading cradle]

do you have the free anni lillie? she cheeses glacia pretty easily despite sentry entry

[karmic zephyr]

Yeah

But I tried and it didn't work?

huh

that's weird

[fading cradle]

what move level is she?

[karmic zephyr]

wait, are we talking about Lillie Solgaleo that we just got right?

5/5

[fading cradle]

yeah that one

if you have arc suit steven, pairing him with her clears glacia really easily

[karmic zephyr]

are you sure this is a good idea? because the tips say Glacia buffs deff

[old orchid]

that comes down to parameters and team comp

[karmic zephyr]

if i don't

[old orchid]

crit ignores defensive buffs anyway

and like melissa said, she easily brute forces through Sentry Entry x2

[karmic zephyr]

I don't have her grided

[old orchid]

(i highly recommend ignoring ingame hints)

[old orchid]

do it then

[karmic zephyr]

wait I do

but not sure if I have the right ones

[fading cradle]

yeah you don’t absolutely have to follow what the game tells you, there’s times where the game’s advice sucks

[karmic zephyr]

wait why I can't find the sentry entry 2 tile

it's supposed to be yellow right>

[fading cradle]

she shouldn’t have sentry entry? that’s glacia’s passive

if you’re using anni lillie solgaleo as your main damage dealer, you should follow the zone + nuke grid

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/11804/79100?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFCQwSFRcYGx4hLi8

[karmic zephyr]

okay mb I was confused

ty

I was looking for that

I have her wrong grided

[fading cradle]

if you have the resources, exing and caking lillie do help a lot too

[karmic zephyr]

no I don't

but ty

So Lillie

[old orchid]

the EX is free from login bonus

[karmic zephyr]

I don't have the spirits

And I don't have cakes for anyone

So anyway

I used Hop Zamazaneta

Lillie

and I need another who buffs crit?

[old orchid]

no, Lillie herself and Hop handle that already

you need to bring a spdef buffer

[karmic zephyr]

oh just these 2? are you sure?

oh

how about Melony?

[old orchid]

the crit caps at +3 so it's none of a concern

you can try her and see

[fading cradle]

there’s also lucian, not sure how different he is from melony

[idle warren]

Ive hit a wall

[old orchid]

Lucian is not a spdef buffer tho

[old orchid]

get rid of Roxanne asap

[idle warren]

I wanna save the special attack increase for sidney since im struggling with him

[old orchid]

do you have 2/5 Olivia?

[idle warren]

Shes 1/5

[karmic zephyr]

I can't do damage but I feel like it's because I forgot to check my parameters

[old orchid]

oops

anyway, replace Roxanne with a bulkier tank

[idle warren]

hmm alr

[fading cradle]

oh i read debuffer, whoops

[old orchid]

are you using his physical attack only or both Hyper Beam and his sync?

his sync is physical btw

[idle warren]

just spamming hyper beam and sync

oh actually??

thats so weird

[old orchid]

you are trying 3k right?

if yes you need a heavy support

[idle warren]

no this is like

2.25k

[old orchid]

okay then, get rid of Roxanne asap

[idle warren]

i dont think i can do 3k cuz i dont have a lot of ex

alr

[old orchid]

it's fine, you will get to 3k eventually

[fading cradle]

yeah you might want to check your parameters if something’s going wrong

[old orchid]

Hoenn is unfortunately one of the hardest regions

[karmic zephyr]

yup, got it

[idle warren]

dang

[karmic zephyr]

moving to drake

[fading cradle]

can confirm i was running up walls trying to 3k this stadium’s stages for the first time

[idle warren]

and its gonna be around for a while huh

[karmic zephyr]

I want to ask, have the presets been reviewed recently? Or where they just made like 2 years ago and still remain the same?

[sharp willow]

Theyre the same as quite some time ago to my knowledge, but there hasn't really been any significant changes to Champion Stadium in the time since they were made

[karmic zephyr]

mhm

okay

[tulip python]

If I save Arc Steven and Lear for Red, can I make do with Raihan, Rose, Lily, and Colress to get past most of those folks?

[old orchid]

Lear doesn't need Arc Steven

Save Steven for the hardest E4 fight, usually Bertha or Glacia

[tulip python]

Gotcha

[wheat dragon]

okay i lied it was actually kinda easy once i realized i didnt have to mono steel all 5

Glacia was probably the hardest for me but after that easy

also dang BP Rose is kinda 👀

no strike ex but he ate

[karmic zephyr]

done with 9k

not bad

[lucid solstice]

Glacia is probably the hardest since she demands Special Steel on top of spamming aoe

[wheat dragon]

What i ended up doing was using my round 1 vs her so i could use V Sawyer and have perma screens up, alongside anni lillie 24 and Alola grimsley

[lucid solstice]

I am sure there's a stage where Special Attack is reduced too

[old orchid]

Bertha's sides have Wise Entry x3

[wheat dragon]

Screens really helped with overall survivability

[lucid solstice]

Oh no special steel damage. I don't have any of that

[wheat dragon]

I was seriously contemplating using SC Jasmine and thorton for a time

but that was just overthinking

turb brain off, go full unga, hit hard, hit good

[swift swan]

wow they really didn't bother to change Red's gimmick for the steel CS?

arctic arrival 💀

[old orchid]

askually the Fire weak Red's gimmicks were hail

[fading cradle]

pain

[swift swan]

jeez how will my steel types change the weather

[gleaming jolt]

Either flinch lock or die

[lean lion]

I can think of one steel type who just doesn't need to bother changing weather

[lucid solstice]

This special cs is rather easy, as long as you know how to deal with Glacia

[sharp willow]

I'd say Bertha is also pretty annoying for it

[fading cradle]

tell me about it…

i think i hate steel weak bertha as much as electric weak siebold now

[lean lion]

It was this bad since all stages were steel week. If you run into her in regular CS, Steven + Lillie will make it a lot easier.

[toxic cobalt]

The fact Siebold is even in contention

[fading cradle]

i still think of that surf spam on his stage ☠️

[lucid solstice]

Should be Glacia then Bertha then Olivia then Grimsley

Hoenn CS is a tier above most regions with their stages being harder to deal with. Though Sinnoh started the difficulty creep

[sharp willow]

Tbh, I find the sinnoh stages worse than both Hoenn and Kalos a lot of the time

Bertha being one of the more prominent examples

[swift swan]

Old lady is out for war crimes

[lucid solstice]

Meanwhile Hoenn has Drake and Glacia spamming weather and aoe

[fading cradle]

“here we go!”
“together!”
“there’s your opening!”
“ha!”
“now’s my chance!”
“leave it to me child!”
“my my, impressive!”

says bertha as she prepares to deconstruct your entire team with earthquake and high horsepower

[lucid solstice]

At least only she spams EQ and not her sides

[oblique karma]

Having trouble with Glacia

[swift swan]

updated

[swift swan]

if this is for the steel CS, she has sentry entry x2 so physical attacks deal half the damage. preferably you use special moves

(which is rare for steel, admittedly)

this doesn't mean physical steel won't work, though. a strong physical steel damage dealer will still clear just fine

[keen jasper]

No half sync again

[fading cradle]

permanent field my beloved

[sick inlet]

Me looking at today's csmm wondering where my Solo Steven will be but there are no steel weak type

So now I want to offtype solo

[lean lion]

[trail smelt]

Had the darndest time trying to get Guzma past Sidney until I rechecked my parameters and saw I still had physical damage reduction on LMAO

[left storm]

Glacia should be really easy

17k hp and 800 attacking stats lol

[sick inlet]

Ill try her if I failed the one I have in mind

[left storm]

All other E4 have 28k this week iirc

So it's gonna be way harder

Steven has 23k

[sick inlet]

They all can't outtank the best in the world
I am a firm believer of that

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week

[old orchid]

@swift swan you should remove the quad queue failing warning this week

[sick inlet]

No
One
Can
Outtank
The best in the world.

Bring on the 100k hp

(don't listen to me Dena, I am just happy I don't need to force ontype on types I hate)

[left storm]

I mean sure

I did offtype solo with NC Bianca 28.9k hp myself

And Steven is much better

But yeah GG

[keen jasper]

Now do this on Phoebe

[pine schooner]

I did it bois

My first 15k clear

[sharp willow]

nice one

[sick inlet]

I believe in realism, too

[keen jasper]

Great, now do higher points

[silver dirge]

[silver dirge]

Congrats! Big achievement on Hoenn of all regions

[sick inlet]

Hoenn is quite difficult, if you can 15k here, you can 15k anywhere else

[pine schooner]

I’ll try 20k when pomas 2 comes out

[true bloom]

[brittle steppe]

Anyone know what i should pick?

[manic mica]

Its completely dependant on your roster and team. The pins have parameters for UpTo 2.5k points , you can check that out.

[brittle steppe]

Where can i check out the pins?

[dusty crater]

+pins

[frozen depot]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[brittle steppe]

What does on type pre sync all this mean

[manic mica]

On-Type means you are hitting the enemy for super effective damage. Off-Type means you're using a type that doesn't hit the enemy for super effective to deal damage. Pre Sync means you kill the enemy before they use their sync move , Post Sync means you kill the enemy after they have used their sync move.

[near coral]

I struggled with the Pasio Special one. I was able to win eventually but only barely and that was without master mode on. Now I need to do the hard level 1 mode again while trying to get the 10 types I never used in at some point... rip

[manic mica]

i have a itching urge to go for 17.5k run This week was easier than the last but still took a bit of thinking

[fading cradle]

wonder if i should have done sidney r1 instead 🧍‍♀️

that snarl is so painful r2

non ex 1/5 sc barry is just not cutting it

[near coral]

Meanwhile I'm looking over the gimmicks and figuring out where I'm going to use others. Odds are I'll throw Arc Steven at Steven but the rest is blurry, especially since I have to throw in 5 types not boosted into any of the 5 teams

[fading cradle]

if you’re on hard mode, it shouldn’t be too much of a hassle

[near coral]

Yeah. Although if the special stadium was anything to go by, even hard mode is a challenge. Never mind all the bonus gimmicks master mode can toss on

[idle warren]

Same here, I cant figure out how to tank sidney’s sync move

If I could then I think barry would mow him down

[near coral]

Last week Sidney caused me a lot of trouble. I found it's better to take him out asap even if it makes the sides stronger

[fading cradle]

sidney sets up dark zone before sync so it’s either you replace the zone or get rid of it and hope your team survives just the sync or kill him before he syncs

[idle warren]

Maybe I need to lower his defense or smth

Yeah I probably do need a diff zone

[near coral]

Anni Lillie might be a thought then on the top of my head

[fading cradle]

too bad i already used my arc suit steven so idk who to pair her with

but even then, you gotta save lillie’s b move before sidney syncs then to overwrite dark zone

[near coral]

Yeah. Requires perfect timing

Only alternative is just to nuke him before the sync

Or even just cutting his attacks down hard

[idle warren]

Should I make any fixes

This is 2k points

[steel kelp]

What’s lillie doing

[idle warren]

Zone

[near coral]

To remove the dark zone before the sync move likely

[idle warren]

Cuz I die to dark zone + sync always

My only other zone setter is victor i think

[manic kiln]

Lillie just for zone is a waste tbh, just need to kill him before, do you have anyone to buff PMUN to help Barry clear faster, or def debuff

[idle warren]

I do have def debuff

[fading cradle]

also barry really wants to sync first for mega heracross

otherwise it hurts to only be able to use his b move every other turn

[manic kiln]

Yeah barry needs the sync. You don’t need support sync here

[idle warren]

Alr

[manic kiln]

Just need to help him increase the bmove dmg

[idle warren]

I dont have morgan at ex anyways

My only pmun is ss lear and as cynthia

Ill try colress for def down i guess

[manic kiln]

Yeah should be fine, this was 3k

[idle warren]

Still not enough for me to kill him pre sync

[lean lion]

Can you show params?

[old orchid]

Since you are ontype, the standard dmg reduction is literally a free param

Same to the 50 pts physical dmg reduction, it just setup Reflect which is ignored by crit

[idle warren]

Ohhhh I didnt even know that

That only applies to the 50 pts one right

[old orchid]

Correct

[idle warren]

Ok

Im at 2400 now but I still dont think I can beat him pre sync

[old orchid]

Can you record your gameplay?

[idle warren]

Sure

[old orchid]

Also you can remove some strength params and pick up atk up ones

So Barry can clear easier

Do this first before recording

[idle warren]

Oh alr lemme re record then

Ignore tht

[lean lion]

Can you show your available supports?

Guage is really struggling here

You want someone who can buff defense and help with guage

[idle warren]

AS steven is also ex and has exr

[lean lion]

Both power on hit params and the can't change WTZ param (since you're not using them) are free points.

[idle warren]

I just havent updated

[idle warren]

Ooo ty

[lean lion]

Have you defeated any other E4 members already? Which round is this?