#Champion Stadium
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I see what you're saying
Is it enough to just multi level up my pokemon I have at level1? And which support would be good for raihan and which dps?
I dont wanna lock out other good pokemon
Well of course level it up, 125 would work. The support you could use is…
Do me a favor would ya? Could you filter out all the units only to support?
I apologize but I need to take my leave, however use a support that is fire type.
I say, good luck on the Type Journey.
Thank you for the help! Ill try a bit. Have to go soon too
Could I beat Sidney 3K with any of these characters?
SS Wally + NY Lisia + a support should be enough
can any damage dealers here clear phoebe with 3k, i cant ontype or poison stall her 💀
Arc Lance + NC Nate
anyone i can also use to offtype drake? he’s been giving me a hard time too
nvm i got the 2 mixed, Arc Lance team should go to Drake
Drake wants Phys damage so definitely
you can try SS Lysandre on Phoebe, or SS Steven
Can any single unit solo phoebe dark type?
I got 3/5 SC zinnia, NC marnie amd 4/5 akari
3/5 NC Marnie might be able to do it but the run will be extremely reset heavy
i recall there is a CS solo sheet somewhere
Oh
Thanks i apreciate it
I think this week is my best chance to make a solo in all stages
i’ll try them, who should i bring as the support, skyla? idk if melony will help since she doesn’t raise speed
i want to bring a rain/terrain setter to enhance the dmg dealer, for support, preferably who provides them SMUN
or defensive support if they can't pre sync
Someone with sync CD could also be nice to not rely on quad queue to get to 2nd sync
here’s all my supports
both are EXRd
if you’re talking about silver and elio
Yeah
is silver at 1/5 enough though?
yeah that’s kind of what stopped me from using them lol
i was looking more towards the special side here
Leaf + Lysandre + Rain Setter
Leaf + SS Steven + psychic terrain
You could also replace Leaf with Alt Elio for some SMUN like Gakon suggested
i can try that, should i inflict weather/terrain right away or wait?
Vs Phoebe you can wait until after supp EX
1st sync - weather/terrain - damage dealers move
I used NC Cheren and SC Irida and they handled it well!
Against Phoebe
wait should i use presync or postsync params ☠️
Which supp are you going with?
my cheren and irida are both at 1/5, so idk how they’ll do
leaf
if she doesn’t work out, i’ll switch to elio
Try presync
Cheren 1/5 can devastate anything in CSMM!
And once Phoebe summons the Ghost Zone Irida also hit much harder! 
If you are still trying different things and nothing is working then you can give them a try! (Use a Def buffer support with them maybe)
hmmmmm
Also Irida's attack debuffs can save you from sync move!
Strength 1, strength 3 and half ally hp at start
Phoebe's attacks are all single target until after sync. Just heal Leaf at the start.
Also, you can give the team Tony suggested a try. It might work better than this setup tbh. Especially if you have NC Cheren or SCIrida EXRd.
Yeah NC Cheren ExR is nice! AoE
my nc cheren is EXRd so he could work?
Sync
Ofcourse
Yup
SCIrida also bring guaranteed flinches if you need to interrupt hard hitting moves
Leaf works. Grid her for Adr, Ramped Up and Crit Squad.
Or a supp who can buff both defenses.
Phoebe has both Phys and Special
Yeah!
Like BP Morty
im not really liking this half ally hp param though
Better than giving them hp honestly
I mostly use post sync with high opponents HP and High Strength parameters!
leaf’s literally just dying before she can even sync
I try to avoid attack parameters
BP morty alive?
Nvm he is not Exed
still got him but yeah i don’t have him exed
Still you can try him for Both Defence buffing and flinch, so he can survive more!
And sync with NC Cheren both the times!
Melissa I'm blind. You can pick can't change weather terrain zone instead of half hp
does cheren need flying zone here? i had anni skyla slotted in solely for zone
I'd bring SCIrida for personal damage and because it allows you to pick can't change wtz for free 150 pts
wait so
(this looks stupid, idk who to bring)
aren't both of them 4 gauge abusers
Bring Leaf and go with these params.
If you feel like you need the mp, swap half ally mp to atk 3. Leaf can max Irida's and Cheren's stats with TM + sync.
SCIrida has 50% FMUN so can be worked around with some luck
attack 3 is nothing to be afraid of, i'd say grab it always
DUDE. I WAS SO CLOSE.
my failure with quadqueing once again costing me another battle are you serious
holy shit at last 😭 had to reset a few times to hope phoebe would start off with x speed. irida really does take advantage of phoebe using ghost wish
thanks for the help with phoebe, now drake’s next and idk who to put as my support or what params to turn on and off 🤡
Do you have a team planned for Wallace?
i have something like this, erika is just there to replace rain
Mallow is 3/5 right?
5/5
yeah, i was planning to brute force with erika too, just haven’t gotten another copy of her lately so she’s stuck at 2/5
this is the team i have for drake, elio is tentative
unless i know i can keep him on the team
That's why I asked you what you're planning for R5
But since you have a solid team, it's okay to use Elio here
aight cool
Try and see if not changing the weather is hurting your run too much
what other params should i include?
I forgot you can use SS Steven to tank as well! 
😭 i’m so used to using him as damage dealer lmfao
I barely use him that way!
So it's hard to remember
Atk 3 and max hp 2 or max hp 4
Grid Elio with Sand Shelter, Lithic Healing, First Aid 4 and Rock Zone team DR

no way melissa first hoenn csmm 15k clear?????? thanks to everyone that helped me 

Big accomplishment, congrats!
thank you arch, couldnt have done it without everyone who helped me here 
Nicely done and congrats! 
thank you trout, you helped me a lot with this stadium 
Always happy to help 
Gakon and Tony came in clutch with their suggestions as well!
yep, owe them a lot too. tony fr came in clutch with the phoebe team, i would have never thought of that team myself LOL
Just throw two busted DDs and any CSMM 3k can be conquered! 
I concur
Duly noted in their favour - they're awesome 
Congrats!! Was asleep and missed the moment tho..
I agree
So happy for you…this drake old man is giving me a hard time
Which parameters should I get? I really need the championship sync
The pins have recommended master mode presets, as well as which round parameters should be avoided against specific stages
I suggest replicating the 850 pts sets first to get used to MM
is it impossible to have 15,000 pts?
It's not, but it's a bad idea to jump straight to 15k without much experience
If you don't pick interference param you will clear Wallace easily
I assume you choose r2 params for perma field effects
Yeap
Tbh Dawn doesn't work well, because Wallace stage is fully special, keep that in mind
The tank doesn't matter much when sure flinch is involved
I will try without the interference params and special defence support
Or you can replace SS Lyra with SS Erika and keep no interference
Erika is a beast ontype when invested, not to mention permanent sun massively benefits her
I tried her but she dies too fast
Well because you used the wrong type of tank
Maybe I have make the enemy strong with the params
Ok let me check some runs
Pick sync buff instead of that
so i ended up poison stalling sidney to death
Drake remains
hail teams are a lil awkward since iron head chunks the steel weaks
Down he goes
And done!
Gotta say lyra did get a nice kit glow up
Was reluctant to use her but then i saw what she got from expansions
has anyone run arc cyn on drake?
i just dont have good enough ice damage to not run out of uses of hail so im considering using the sand against him
wait beans then i cant do the on-type damage param
ughhh
i think astro used arc cynthia on him
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god i appreciate discord's pseudoforums for many things from a moderation standpoint but also good god i hate that you cant search in them
#1009554906568462476 message
beans i cant see what /5 astro (or azu who also seems to have used arc cyn on drake) have her at
oh yeah, that does suck
might have to ask astro or anyone who used cynthia
my mpr options for weather otherwise are sygna erika (who i was hoping to use for wallace), may, and candice
i brute forced drake with nc nate and arc suit lance without clearing weather
hmmmm lemme see if i can recall them
my goal rn is to try and clear 9500; i'm at 5250 after 3 but i know i can ramp up a lot on wallace
infinite sun go brrr
but even so taking off the non-se dmg reduction param puts me behind by 300
something similar to this but i cant recall the exact ones. maybe i had max hp 2 on but i dont really remember
gotcha
infinite wtz went so hard for wallace, especially if ur using ss erika
god yeah i had so much fun my first go round
i cleared him with arc steven, as erika, and mallow
yeah, on master mode too lmao, she actually worked wonders
my first clear for was finishing out my medal so it was just brain off at that point since i had my 3 missing medal pieces
so i did sygna erika bp lusamine and i think lyra? since her tm likes sun
idk it was a massacre lmao
lmao hard mode clears have some silly looking teams for sure
i had koga in mỹ wallace team only bc i needed poison for the medal
mine was using oak nido to tank on glacia for poison but before we got him it was almost always janine
just throw her in there, she buffs speed to help everyones gauge and then she just does whatever
ugh this is truly so atrocious. irida pls cycle back in i have no ice types and i must scream
i feel you, i used hala as an attempt to ontype but was getting nowhere so i saved drake for last and brute forced him 
i have 0 seasonals, maybe i need to go back for summer steven bc despite being one of the oldest seasonals hes also somehow. the only innate hail bringer unit??
pal bea is prob better overall bc she has it on entry and on sync but
im just so lacking in ice damage 💀
same, candice is just
and hala slows himself down and has a gauge heavy move
oh damn pal bea is also an astonish unit?? damn
damn shes really kinda cracked
also i cant believe we dont have a mamoswine unit yet... but who would be the best fit for it....
avalugg is wulfrics ace!! im all in favor of that one and in favor of whenever they add his ancestor and hisuian avalugg
gaeric? i think thats his name
Astro's Cynthia is 3/5
She do be soloing like 10 legendary arenas with astonish and no damage sync
So far i use my steel boys and my dragon boys for this fight
Just a noobie just started out and got lucky on arc banners what 2 other teams should i make to clear this
Lance and cynthia easily beat 2 rounds
I notice you don't have all the legendary adventures pairs yet? Get Silver and Ho-oh for fire
Please read his kit and the teambuilding guide, to see who can cover his needs. After that you can post your team here for feedbacks
I don’t get why he is good?
he is your best Fire dmg dealer you have got
Showing your type medal progress helps us to assist you on making teams
Where can i access the type medal access?
Go to teambuilding menu -> the progress button in the below the edit screen
Which is the teambuilding menu
Go to fight any stage is CS -> when you get the menu to select your team there'll be a Type Medal Progress bar at the bottom right
Ohhh
But as of now i am trying to beat it
I have ss steven too
And chase
But i don’t know what to build my team with
No reason you can't beat it while progressing type medal
Please do this
Build teams for:
Silver vs Glacia
SS Steven vs Phoebe
and AS Lance vs Wallace
So overstimulating too many pairs
We are not playing the game for you, we are guiding your step by step
Teambuilding is the most important aspect, so you should learn the basics of it asap
Which team is for which round?
You also would like to have more type coverage, I'm only counting 7-8 distinct types which paces to finish the type medal in 3 weeks rather than the minimum 2
you also duplicate one of Sonia or Chase, which CS explicitly disallows

Ohh not using the chase flying team
I don’t have much type that synergises with the rest
You don't need the synergy necessarily - Arc Cynthia and SS Steven will both be more than capable of carrying their respective teams and so you can add type diversity there
Are there options that are considered easier? Like Max HP vs Strength or Attack/Def up?
You never pick defensive stats up
ok yeah i have no ice strong enough for this. time to figure out how to make up the 300
i think im just gonna offtype brute force it with arc cyn arc steven
It comes down to the stage gimmicks, your team and your playstyle
For example you want to use Arc Lance to clear a stage quickly, that means you don't want to take too many defensive params like HP up
In general str up with only +1 (sometimes 1+3) atk up is the most manageable to kill before sync
But if you can't kill fast enough better go with a mix of hp and str
Thanks!
We have recommended param sets pinned here, they can help
it always feels good to take half mp when your team is all 1/1 anyway
free points wahoo
damn this team was so close... gwg is nice but i think i need to return to the ssa cynthia + vigi on erika comp bc shes just made of paper
yeah, i was packing lodge dawn for mpr to max spdef
bc i was thinking that + -spatk might work
Dawn is fine
but i think ssa + sygna erika + a third grass is better
maybe base dawn for razor leaf chip on sides since im running -spec params anyway?
gotcha
i mean the other idea is just move erika to side and put brendan in center as sync
take off inertia and solar flare to skill into solar blade boosts and let him do the syncing
If Brendan is 3/5 and EX, consider that. The positions don't matter, tactics do tho
ah sorry, my default is center = main sync/dps/tactic 3
also yeah hes 5/5 and ex from way back when
ok yeah i could probably go higher than 9500 with this comp but 9500 clears the dense pocket of champ spirits and i def cant get to 11500 ir wherever the next us so o7 tysm!!
now to ex arc steven for that good good 2x sync buff
i just learned that steel weak glacia has sentry entry so uh, can my team be revised or anything
She's not hard to brute force with lillie
You have -2 rebuff and zone
And an extra Def dropper
ah alright, guess i’ll stick with this team then, thanks 🫡

Hoping for half-sync tomorrow 
yeah i wouldnt worry about sentry entry you'll be fine
honestly you might even want to swap out one or more of those units to use elsewhere
Also
Ex your lillie
don’t let melissa cook again
Easy sweep for you next reset
done
Looks easy for you
for once a champion stadium isn’t tackling my weaker rosters 
that final corner team is a+
poor wallace getting murked by a steven 2 weeks in a row
look if hes gonna get merced by anyone he might as well get merked by his boyfriend
this is still the fruitiest image ive ever seen in this game dena Knows
Why was she exrless in first place, did you forget?
could be conservation of spirits
Did it myself too
i was low on spirits LOL
my anni lillie is queued up but is in "i have 0 spirits" jail bc exing arc steven > exing her
i also wanted to save spirits for arc cynthia and riley 🤡
im right there with you
my heart wants to ex riley asap
my brain says i need to wait 😔
there’s a fighting weak glacia next week so i need him exed asap
i just love him and hes my BOY so
fighting weak glacia is an added benefit dfgjkjkhdfg
watch her have sentry entry
oh wtf
sentry entry AND wise entry, she wants us dead
Those aren't x2 passives. Just means she gets +3 def and sp def on entry.
They're inconsequential
ahhh aight
yeah, those just mean you need to debuff
looks like im bringing colress next week then
honestly steven > colress here
oh right i forgot
im so used to using him to tank and boost that i forgot his b move lowers defenses
lmao
it’s over glacia
unless that drake team has smth to mandate special in which case we're all doomed you might want colress on him
bc rock has 3 spec syncs and the rest phys and not great damage all things considered
next week is weak to rock
incorrect hes the love of my life and he and cynthia have been gender since day 1 of diamond and pearl i will hear no criticism
He really wants EXR too but he's not as great even with it unlike lillie imo
hes like those people who will die on the hill of janine for me
If he's fave that's another deal
yeah thats what i meant by my heart
Can't have Riley slander on my watch
that’s this week though? this coming reset
ok i would say this week is the current slate, next week is after it rolls over
just a diff in language
riley’s the true champ
never slander my boy like that again
My face when you can do this with most units with sync cd on half cd condition:

Here's one that's not on half-sync
And I'm pretty sure "most" units can't do this, half-sync or not. Maybe the busted ones, but for a free pair this is amazing.
now im wondering if i should start a champion stadium clear log, i have tons of undocumented stadium clears that date back to like april lol
I love documenting my clears. Also shows you how much you've improved when you look at your old teams/clears.
true…bc my oldest cs clears were…very questionable!
right then, i’ll try to create a post then, it’ll only be champion stadium since that’s the only game mode i take seriously LOL
Free pair with EXR
Without it he wouldn't have won either
Wow! That's awesome!!

He would've won either way. EXR made the run effortless, not possible.
you got cs2 on him?
Sync KOs mid, SEUN CC quad queue OHKO's side and denies move, either 2 shot the other side (eat one move) or OHKO, im not sure whether he OHKO's either. But, yeah, its definitely possible without EXR.
The "eat one move" part is the one that's pretty doubtful
To me
I really struggle to see him tank an AoE
It's possible to reset for better move RNG. This is just the successful run, but if they use TM's to start RIley is a lot healthier at the end.
Yes
Yeah I mean if I run morty and just never get hit I guess I could beat 1v3 ghost
Doesn't make Morty great

Agree to disagree
I say this only because I personally never cared for it, it's been done hundreds of times before ofc
I Stan Riley
wasn't there an all-electric special stadium earlier this year? i remember it bc aaron in that lineup took me FOREVER
Yeah Cheren special stadium
ok phew i didnt somehow hallucinate it
also, theres no way to go back and see the teams/order you used for a prior special stadium right? only if they choose to rerun it?
even if they rerun a special CS, you won't be able to see your teams used in the previous one
best to just make screenshots of them when you clear'm.
i typically put my clears on a spreadsheet so i can adjusts my teams for cs or special stadiums
ye, i'm making a #1010274591601598555 thread and realizing i have no records that i can dig up
alas
i used to put it on stage-clears too but it can be difficult to search specific clears 😭
very fair... i was working on a spreadsheet that had a search function so that i could call the specific icons for each pair (particularly for gauntlet teambuilding like cs where you can only use pairs 1x/need to draft a number of simultaneous pairs not just one at a time); maybe i'll finish that and put my logs in there
updated
Half sync when
i went too overboard 💀
hoenn deserves overboard
phoebe and drake deserved it for last week
i think this is the first time i did a 15k clear without even asking for help bc these teams were too killer
Struggling with R2 Phoebe 
and bless arc suit steven
i almost struggled with wallace bc i synced with ss steven first lmfao
My Roster + BP Barry included
You can try Fantina, an off-type damage dealer you don't need for the remaining 3 fights, or ol' reliable Poison stall
Saving poison stall for Wallace since my psychic roster even worse
I tried Fantina + Victor but realized ghost zone also benefitted her
Olympia might be able to handle Wallace, even without psychic terrain
you dont have Bianca right?
No
Almost presync’d everything, could have presync’d rock had I not turned on special attack reduction lol
Ready for next week
i would make teams for next week rn but it’s like 3 am 💀 adios
Should I poison stall then and pray Olympia + Sycamore + sp def reducer can beat Wallace?
I think she'll be fine, go for stall
Get a good tank, Haze Phoebe right away
That furious brain is awful
Fantina and Victor is a good core
A good tank who can max sp def should be able to eat a few ghost zone boosted attacks
Melony is good, also helps with sleep denials
This week params are pretty good for my personal challenge 
If I can get through Aaron , I can hopefully accomplish 15k again
For Off type Post Sync , which other Params can I add?
Team is
SS Nemona , Penny , Argenta
Probably adding a lot of HP
Aaron?
Yes
Am I missing something? Aaron is Sinnoh
Do you have Lodge Skyla?
guess who swapped for lodge dawn
and my only option is the suicidal bird
I have a plan
My plan did not work
What was it
Permanent field effects you say
First Try Wallace. This felt way easier than last time. Getting used to it I think.

Almost certainly
Is that team ok?
You would want a more defensive support
Might need to adjust the Support a bit, yeah
Gridded 3/5 Olivia should be enough
tierno is not a defensive support
Someone who can buff atk and defense. And replace Gordie with Alt Selene.
rock drake doesnt need weather iirc
You can save Drake for R4 for perma field param so Selene doesn't have to worry about circle running out
It’s round 4
That's great
Should I use only selene for dmg then
well no
Cause I take either special or psyc attack reduction
olivia has an actual nuke and i dont think she can dps hard enough
if this is 3k anyway
You can get 3k without picking either special or psyc Atk reduction
I’m dying fast from this dragonite
Is Olivia’s sand boost sync preset good for nyke
Have you shared your parameters? That's the most important thing to check first
params look okay, but I think you should pick the 50 pt dmg reduction and atk param instead of max hp
you'll probably need to reset if enemies spam AoE moves
I think the problem is my strat or the teams supp
So what are the gimmicks for the elite four this time around? Like per round

Didn't realise. Sorry
You could consider bringing someone like Hop or Sonia for faster offensive buffing on top of defensive buffs. Note that Hop is weak to Fire so left's Flamethrower could be a problem.
depends on who's available honestly
Hmm so for me looks like Glacia is round 4. Phoebe will need to be round 1 or 2 by the looks of it then
Already used hop I will maybe poison stall it
That works, just make sure you have a plan for Wallace
hm, sand (drake) or lillie's steel zone (glacia) for r4? we dont go ghost wish (phoebe) since that boosts her too
almost definitely doing sidney third, pidgeot go brr
glacia would probably be obliterated r4 if you send in anni lillie 2024
i mean i can prob obliterate her either way, but its more who is easier to make up the 150 points from wtz change
given the types i should be fine with 9500 this week and could maybe do 11k, but
If Lillie is paired with AS Steven, go Drake R4. If not, go Glacia R4.
this weeks types were much kinder to me, 15k baby, only remotely difficult one was phoebe since my lillie and irida are both 1/5 (plus all the spread attack rng)
Also, note that Sidney's Dark Pulses will hit very hard on R3
i totally forgot about the round-based conditions 
i used that same exact team for glacia, she didn’t stand a chance lol
colress just kinda died instantly to a spread attack (mines 2/5 so kinda worthless anyways) but steven and lillie were able to clean sweep
my colress is also 2/5, he somehow didn’t die
rn ive got (not ordered by round, just by type)
- flying: blue (ex) or lodge serena + lodge volkner or darach (-evasion)
- ghost: ssr cyn (exr)
- steel: anni lillie, poppy, and/or arc steven (exr)
- rock: uh... kukui?
- psychic: bianca, giovanni (ex), lucian
arc steven might be more helpful supporting the rock team than on glacia
i totally forgot i have renegade cynthia why did i not use her for phoebe i was cycling a bunch of different tanks lmao
Depends on who you go with vs Drake. But yeah, its possibele to save Steven to be used elsewhere
im thinking ssr cyn + colress if i do phoebe on the stat reduction round
yeah i feel 2024 anni lillie can do glacia well enough on her own where arc steven can let you win basically any other round
ok yeah ty for that confirmation, that helps me settle things up!
ok so if i do drake r4, i can do half mp bc i would only need to set sand 1x/there wouldnt be an overwrite
frustratingly gordie has his gmax instead of setting sand on max move but
bertha kukui steven would probably work, sand + stealth rock + lowering atk with sand tomb, steven and kukui both lower def, steven's contrary should be fine in terms of guarding from the speed drops but otherwise i can always grab haste or smth im 99% kukui has it in his grid
ok. so r1 phoebe, r2 glacia, r3 sidney, r4 drake
that can work
that’s the exact order i went in but it just depends on who you have on your team
ye, ill put colress with lillie since i dont have ex on her for lack of spirits and then i have a bunch of supports who would pair well with them
.... i have what might be an absolutely insane idea
dawn 100% covers fierce entry and will probably/hopefully cover unbreakable bonds to some degree. so then who raises spdef and helps with the fact that we've got two extremely slow units?
anyway triple sinnoh double dawn comp lets GO
ok messed up right at the end with the timing of my ghost wish (accidentally gave phoebe two boosted shadow balls instead of one) but 2k on phoebe clear B]
hm.... colress anni lillie redlax for glacia seems like it would genuinely work its just making me laugh bc. dc core breaking containment
Is there a document I can use for Champion Stadium
The pins have helpful resources that you could make use of
First time all on-type clears! 
I know i shouldn't say this, but
Poopy
I didn't get the chance to sync second time against last three battles! 
Loving all the Hoenn overkill this week! 
hoenn deserves it anyways
real
Hey Glacia's side grunts, miss your blizzard please (at least on my striker) so I can beat you
Now do it in 4k pts. 
man if i could but gems id definitely select sc irida cuz phoebe is annoying the shit out of me
who was she even made for anyway
like what ghost type has attack drops
ok besides sc irida but she released like a year after
Time to unbench Lucian
again he is not a ghost type
i love spdef drops
Might be a combo of SS Korrina & Fall Morty
I forget how the releases line up though
base morty has demoralize 1
why did this dragonite legitimately just triple flinch me
I felt like I overkilled too for my level 
fall phoebe also has a passive to ignore target having raised atk when being hit?
idk how that would work here tho
rng is biased towards dragonite
oh damn summer 24 acerola also has this
ahh and ny dawn is feather dance double drop with power posture
and power posture
Fall Phoebe and Summer Acerola are out for “who is this designed for” since they released way after Hoenn CS did
Iirc she released after since I think Hoenn CS happened before 3rd anniversary
Fall Phoebe was part of the most recent batch of fall seasonals alongside Fall Roxanne
No worries
but yeah im guessing its honestly demoralize 1 on base morty plus a general incentive to bring more than single type teams
maybe even actively including normals as ghost counters? idk
would skyla anniversary 2022 be better or gary's pidgeotto in terms of damage for this mode
prob skyla, right
A. Skyla has a better Sync nuke, Blue + Pidgeot has better regular move damage (though requires taking 1st Sync to do so)
what are their respective move levels?
I can't even finish Sydney even with Steven
who are your other flying types?
Which Steven we talking about here?
Skyla is my best lol
Arc Steven ( but that's because I added no type reduction )
what i was going to say was: pidgeot 5/5 can do great damage with air cutter boosted by brutal clarity and ramp up 2 compressing both his tms into 1, then using sync power flux and brain sync 5 to give him respectable damage vs a 1/5 anni skyla
If you have Lodge Skyla then her + A. Skyla for Flying Zone (not necessary if this is just Hard Mode) + a Support will work
My flying roster is shit
Even though Skyla anniversary was a freebie from that event pick , but... She does not live up to the anniversary name
It’s a slightly goofy team, but A. Skyla + a Winona gridded for Hurricane damage + a Sp. Atk. & crit Support would probably work
5/5 kahili could work too
Kahili has a solid Sync nuke
yeah
If gridded for it
shes definitely a tech
Oh.....
I gave her NOTHING except levels from free sync trainings and other training dailies
What point value are you shooting for, btw?
winona or kahili are your best options imo. or you can pick up bp falkner
Ofc everyone's going for 3k
Depending on how new you are to Master Mode you may be better off going for a lower point value
i did 2k on phoebe and might try for 11k for a new pb but generally aim for 9500
Especially since the difference between 2.5k and 3k isn’t very much rewards-wise
you get all the important rewards from like ~4k+ points i believe
most of the higher rewards are just tickets and champion spirits
850 per stage (4250 total) nets the important rewards with little to no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode
Well I need the champion spirits and only at 15k they give the most champion spirits
6k is 2k orbs, ditto for 7.5k, 9.5k is the cluster of champ spirits
then its 5 tickets 5 champ spirits alternating
You will be swimming in Champion Spirits sooner or later with just like, 10k per week (if not lower)
It's 85 champion spirits per week if u get to 15k
Don’t tunnel vision on instant gratification, this game is about bit-by-bit of progress each day
imo - if you do a clear aiming for 9500 for those champ spirits, then reset and aim higher, you will get way way more out of it than trying to immediately do 15k
Wow that feeling exists in the upper tier ppl? I'm like in need of spirits lol
9500 is plenty difficult, and you'll get the majority of the spirit rewards even if you cant then finish the higher score second run
Yes when you ascend to high tier you have unlimited CS
(higher tier?)
Dropping from 15k to 12.5k will be like, going from 3 EXs’ worth of spirits every 2 weeks to 4 EXs’ worth of spirits every 3 weeks
Well the thing is I have all arcs units and thought that was a guarantee 9k but no... (My Lance cannot 3k - Cynthia I can, and Steven maybe I haven't tried Steven on non type)
Referencing the upper tier people comment
You will be swimming in spirits before long since the real bottleneck is the 5-star powerups
As an example, I have like 200ish 5-star powerups vs. like 2.5k+ Champion Spirits
Interesting thanks for letting me know. I thought you get way more power ups.
At the start perhaps
but yeah theres no shame in aiming for a lower point total that you can actually achieve (and have fun with)
OH I do lodge..
i probably could brute force 15k but i dont want to, so i aim for what i need to get the rewards that actually matter
sure
very diff worlds
in a 5yr old game im both an oldhead from having played when the game dropped but also a newbie bc my cumulative play time is~430 days
which is approximately half back then and half now
you only really hit the middle solid tier from like, a year? year and a half? of play imo, with a bias towards ppl who started that year more recently due to power creep
so you have a ways to go. its fine, so do i!
anyway brb gotta go
Another thing to keep in mind is that you don’t have to do all of CS in one day
Weekly reset just happened today, so if you don’t have what you need to get your teams properly put together yet you can come back to it tomorrow after getting more stuff from tomorrow’s dailies (Sync Orb area and such)
yeah i'm not in rush. just getting some advice - the kahili advice really might help considering i thought she was useless af.
and i have glacia and drake down for 3000k by practicing without finishing.
The 3- and 4-star pairs generally range from decent to amazing
for single nukes id suppose
Also, worst case scenario don’t forget that you can go with Poison stall
I’ve done it a few times in the past (though I don’t do it much these days since I have a roster that can on-type with relative comfort)
A Poison stall team usually consists of:
- A Poison inflictor (preferably Bad Poison from Toxic or Poison Fang).
- A debuffer (Janine is generally the premier pick due to Venom Drench, but loads of others work too depending on the stage).
- A tank (a defensive Support with good healing, ideally Potions and/or a heal-on-Sync passive).
Most of the options for Poison inflictor are low-rarity like Koga, Lucy, or BP Erika
You don’t need to make the team monotype, BP Erika is a Grass Sync Pair and she’s in the top 3 Poison inflictors (Lucy and SS Leaf being the other 2)
Just Really buff support I suppose yeah
They don’t even need to be a “broken” Support, just defensive-focused with healing
BP Morty is one of the best options for Poison stall teams since he has Potions, +2 to both defenses per Trainer Move use, and Synchro Healing (or whatever they changed that passive’s name to these days) in his grid
Depending on the stage options like Skyla + Swanna can work too
Cool do you know any video or guides on this poison thing? Getting one 3k down would always be help in the future in case in the future I don't have good type lineup.
I should learn.
Basically your Poison inflictor just applies Poison (and Trap if they have it) to all opponents, your debuffer debuffs enemy offenses to keep them at -6, and your tank buffs the teams defenses, heals as needed and usually is the one who Syncs since usually they’ll have a passive that heals them (or the whole team) on Sync.
And of course make sure to triple queue so you can get that on-Sync healing as much as possible.
Give everyone Vigilance Lucky Skill if you can so as to avoid bad crit RNG
We have some example parameters in the pins, when going from 2.5k to 3k just make sure to avoid picking parameters that increase the opponents’ damage output unless you cannot reach 3k otherwise, and if you do have to pick offense-boosting parameters then the flat stat increases of Strength ^ will be less of an increase than the parameters that directly increase a stat
wow im learning a lot.
janine is USEFUL actually in one situation and i have her at lv 1 COMPLETELY unused once in my whole game.
thanks
ill def check out the parameters in the pinned
and maybe check videos and such
Looking at the teams I've made, each has one team member at level 100 while the other two are at 140. I don't know about that really. I also still need to fix up sync grids too but maybe it'll work? I'll need to list the teams later when I check what I'm thinking of running
Level 120 is the benchmark to hit, it’s cheap and sufficient for basically all content. Don’t worry about going beyond that, it’s not any sort of significant improvement.
On grids, it really depends on the individual Sync Pairs’ Move Levels. Most Sync Pairs don’t get anything of value at 1/5, for example
Yeah. I'll need to look up what to do for sync grids. Biggest snags I can think of are rock and flying teams on the top of my head. Ghost is iffy too but I think I can probably eek out a win there
as someone who hates clay and palpitoad/seismitoad and marlon and carracosta it makes me furious that theyre genuinely quite useful these days
even ramos is good now for sleep chaining!!!
i think the only ones that are truly still "bad" are iris/hax, norman/slaking, flannery/torkoal (largely due to the amount of grid that is effectively useless due to being a co-op mechanic), and candice for being so bad but also basically the only free hail setter so you Have to use her and feel the pain
ik everyone is thinking itll be ciris/hydreigon arc suit but an iris/hax alongside blue/pidgeot would be huge as far as revamping an older unit goes
Got Phoebe down at least
And uh... looks like Sidney is going to be the biggest problem
whats your flying roster?
5 star wise is just 1/5 Blue and Pidgeot and 5/5 Darach. Got Kahlili as the final member
ok but as we discussed before, you can do a lot without 5*s
5/5 darach sounds like a perfect sidney counter tho
I think for that team I might need to use other elements to provide support or back up for Darach
Blue doesn't do much and Kahlil is just there
sidney's only +evasion is one x evade all, grab this grid and go for feather dance + defog as many times as you can
if i knew the rest of your roster i would be better equipped to help you draft a team
+tracker
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
Sync Pairs Tracker for Pokémon Masters EX
I was trying to "poison stall" against Phoebe and she had "Lessen Poison" effect pop up everytime her dusknoir suffered so the poma website didn't include that... Maybe should report to them of this info.
Every stage?
Wait, why did I find Sidney "poison stalling" WAY too easy...
In stadium they all have it
Some stages have less resistance because they're meant to have it as weakness
like his team literally (sides ate up 50% everytime they attacked with badly poison/wrap) suffered way harsher
And they don't include that specifics in the poma?
Wish they did.....
yeahhhh just know that all enemies in cs will have lessen (status condition/change) even if pomatools doesn’t say so
Hmm... close call, probably needs fine tuning
Glacia is straight up free so outside of Sidney, the only issue I can see is the champion
it does
just not on the passives menu
oh ty for pointing that out. I guess Ididn't know how to read everything
yeah
bottom tab on the stats has all the statuses and debuff resistances
some stages have lessened resistance
For poison, they're ALL 9...
OHHHHHHH
specifically the poison weak stages
Urgh... one unlucky crit doomed an attempt
yeah it all depends on the rounds
you see here that wallace has lessened resistance
and hes also poison weak
so yeah i think thats a correlation
most stages are lessen 9
thats psychic weak
oh you talking about diff weeks?
i specifically said poison weak
yes
poison weakness cs tend to have less poison resistance
but 9 is the norm
Aha.
Got it.
Thanks
but sucks this week for stalling then, there is no poison weak they ALL 9 resistant
Lessen poison 9 is still stallable
no sc irida? 
Nope
oh def... just had an unlucky round.
one day!
I'm contemplating on just taking out Sidney first and suffer the consequences
also, if you're poison stalling you generally want bad poi not regular poi right?
bc bad poi ramps over time
which eventually overcomes the reduction from lessen 9
Guys any tip for poison stall drake
I get -6 speed debuff from salamance and can’t sync with morty for heal
I LOVE this girl Janine. Her debuffs and ninja evasiveness dodging everything making them all rot in poison and wraps... My first poison stall win! 😀
Phew... champion was a close call but got the clear. Rock one was also shaky but Arc Cynthia was able to pull of a win but barely
Definitely know what you mean. I also did practice run w arc Cynthia and managed 3k but wasn't a ball in the park. Saving Cynthia for the rock weak dude.
Yeah. Rock was so bad I thought I had to use her for there because there was no hope otherwise
Slow-mo shouldn’t prevent Poison stall
At worst it might slow down your Sync Move at times
But generally speaking, depending on the point value you’re going for and such a 2/5+ Olivia gridded for Sync nuke + Stone Edge Amped Up is a good damage-dealer to build the team around
That’s why I’m losing I get -6 speed
And can’t sync for heal with morty
I have 3/5 Olivia I tried but she died 1 shot
What’s the team, point value, and parameters?
I’m inclined to suggest Bertha + an Attack buffing Support so you can take advantage of Sand Blaster
For Olivia’s teammates
Depending on who you have there may also be solid off-typing options available
Actually, wait
Rock weak Drake doesn’t have Wise Entry x2, so just build around Selene + Nihilego
And ignore Olivia
If you have another circle setter Selene would enjoy having them on the team so she doesn’t have to worry about it as much, and since B Meteor Beam buffs her Sp. Atk. she doesn’t have to worry about an external buffer all that much.
You may want to consider swapping some Strength parameters with some Attack & Sp. Atk. parameters to lower enemy bulk, but worth trying your current setup 1st to see how it goes
What do u mean circle setter?
Like how Selene sets Alola circle
Other pairs have other region circles, and since B Meteor Beam would take 2 turns to use if a circle isn’t active, having a 2nd one for more uptime would help Selene spend more turns Meteor Beaming and fewer turns on setup/circle upkeep
It’s permanent circle it’s round 4
Selene gets 1 shot I need to change the params probably
If you’re not using Iono elsewhere she’s good for the Special Up Next, Anabel is good for increasing team survivability, NC Bede is a good all-arounder if you’re not using him elsewhere
To name a few
I’m gonna change the params for post sync
The slow mo is the issue I can’t gauge with Selene when it slows me so much
Can bring gauge assistance for one of your team members then
Be that Speed buffs or gauge accel
Can’t do it 😩
Every time this drake is a problem for me wtf is the problem with this old man
I clear 3k on everyone except him
🤣
No shame in dropping the points a bit if you feel you’re just slamming your head into a wall repeatedly.
Alternatively, you can take a break for now and come back to it later this week, see if a solution you didn’t think of previously arrives or if you get someone who offers a boost to your success chances
Also an option
Could try Kris under Rain
I’m gonna get back to it tomorrow thanks for ur time
lookin at colress/anni lillie/redlax vs glacia - i'll be hunting for mprs from red to max spdef, but my thinking is sync red -> use lillie's bmove pre-second sync -> sync colress. current params are both spec reduction; int immunity; strike 3x; all +hp tiles; and standard damage reduction which puts me at 1550. is redlax a good enough tank to start loading up the +atk/+str params?
im also wondering if theres maybe someone better than redlax to use since para + -def are covered by colress
... ok part it was being carried by getting 2 paras on blizzard but
yeah i can ramp this up
colress's sync damage is not as good as i was expecting tho, hm
hmmm would shauntal be able to nuke phoebe or not enough dmg?
its sentry entry x2
You’d probably wanna run a dual damage-dealer setup since Shauntal’s Sync nuke isn’t the best






Type:
Weak: 
HP: 548
ATK: 146 | DEF: 137
SPA: 416 | SPD: 183
SPE: 266
General Pool
None
Shadow Ball (3/5)
+ Sync Boost
+ Sync Boost / Critical Eye
Lucky Skill: Critical Strike 2, Gritty 3
and i'm running a screecher, whats ur point
rip... i can have victor aside her... but
i dontttt like victor just immediately casting ghost zone in the beginning
Shauntal + Victor can probably work
x2 doubles base defense
and i can't ghost zone in time for shauntal's sync
thats why its not as good
but ima give shauntal a chance. will let yall know~
isnt sentry entry just +2def on entry. once screech and she loses the buff
i tried steven and lillie sentry entry x2 and it works despite sentry entry. but prob bc steven rebuff steel
read what i said
i think it was that i forgot redlax wasnt maxing his def so i wasnt getting full towering force
they are two different passives that do very different things
Sentry Entry 2 and Sentry Entry x2 are different
The former buffs Defense by 2 stages on entry, the latter doubles the base Defense stat
instead of 78 its 156
christ i hate the naming of this game. they took away synchro healing but they dont care about things like this
sigh
fwiw once i increased the params so lax took more dmg and proc'd alert mind i got the kinds of numbers i was expecting so its np, got 2500 on a non-champ stage for the first time woohoo
hm, +150 for no wtz on sidney.... or tanking with rika....
Wow miss shauntal actually managed.
W victor ofc... Can't deny his contribution to dmg
arguably i could exit and hike the difficulty more bc even with max hp params i still took out sides on first blue sync but
he just does such good damage for a f2p unit. love those 60k+ syncs
YES I DID IT 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 TY for cobalt suggesting me to poison stall!
MY FIRST 15k feels... AWESOME
.... did you photoshop that or do you have a blessed model of phone that lets you get it all in one screenshot??
I put it together
ok lmao i was gonna say
so "photoshop"
its not that hard aligning with paint lol
it just looks prettier
i hateeeeeee separating images ESP parameters freaking 5 diff pages.
true i wish my screen was that big lol
nah my samsung can't fit that in
but i dont wanna do it bc 1. lazy, 2. it won’t match the date of the original pictures
def work of just copying two images and aligning them together
on computer ez, on phone hell no.
if i stitched together my first cs clear, the day would say sep 16 instead of april 10
ok. so r4 kukui as core, want to take off berserker + crit infliction bc ill have steven to max atk and crit
i could reach soothing sand OR surging sand OR the second sync tile + throw the remaining 5 energy wherever it fits
What is a good flying team for 3k I’ve been trying to use Ethan and Lucia, Starapter, and Skyla and Swanna
Ethan is fine but you should use a proper support for him so he doesn't rely only on his TM for crits and offensive setup in general
monotype is usually not a good thing to focus on when building a team unless the units in question happen to synergize well
If the specific team you’ve tried is all those 3 at once then it’s no wonder you’re struggling since your damage-dealers aren’t getting the buffs they need
Fixed the above since I misread which Skyla that was 
Where is the list about proper teams I think I saw it somewhere?
Also I tried to create a team that was all offense but my number 1 would get defeated in one hit
Teambuilding 101 can be found in #1010307000346878062 or by using the +101 command over in #bot-zone
Remember, you don’t need to make a monotype team
DIE DIE DIE
Against Hoenn but every other team has Hoenn Champion! 
Tbh I feel like I can push for 15k
What other parameters can I add for poison stall?
Currently 2.5k with it, based it on the guide here
Strength 1, Gradual Healing at start, Half-ally hp at start
dang, thank you
i can finally attempt 15k 
All the best!
best of luck!
Who the hell ghost pinged me
Done!
Realized it was actually possible for me this week so went for it.
My first 20k point CSMM run!! 
My bad didn't mean to ping
It's fine
I don't mind it
Posted the runs and params in stage clears post if anyone is interested.
Is that Chase 5/5?
3/5
I'm so proud of you
Congrats!!
Tysm!
There's no one way to get 3k points on all stages. Your strategy and parameters rely heavily on which team you use and which stage you're battling.
I still have 10 types I think I need to get through the Elite Four and Champion next week... that's going to be agonising
Oh yeah I forgot stadium reset
bug weak sidney doesn’t have sentry or wise entry?
bc i feel like i have to offtype him for csmm bc i feel like 1/5 sc barry isnt enough
Isn't this week flying week Sidney?
i’m talking about next week, should have said that, oops
oh haha
no he doesn't have sentry or wise entry
you can always check here https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
alright
now i gotta see which one of my powerful off typers will be left
Could this work?
I mean, you could try it and tell us 😂 got anything to lose?
Didn’t work 😂
Hahaha okay then, now we know!
I wouldn't necessarily go for 2 techs.
I don't know much but I think there is the fault.
Yeah I’m sure it’s 50% the team and 50% the params
Or poison stall
Yeah I suppose
Any recommendations for deoxys comps?
I'm definitely not the person to answer that 😂
Oh well thanks anyway
You're welcome! If I manage to find something I'll let you know
can you send your params? i feel like a team like that should be able to clear
seems like you have the tech pairs taking more damage param on with two tech pairs on the team
Oh maybe I put wrong preset of the previous battle then
you can also turn off the cant change wtz param and turn on the half ally mp param. if you use the permanent field effects param when fighting wallace, you won’t need to worry about psychic terrain vanishing
Yeah I will try that and see
oh and try syncing with sycamore first if that helps
That’s what I’m doing but maybe I was dying cause of the x3 dmg on tech
if you’re still struggling, you can also try to give sycamore the antitoxin lucky skill so the enemies can’t poison him, but yeah try what i said above first haha. best of luck!
yeah definitely replace that with strike pairs taking 3x damage since you aren’t utilizing any strike pairs anyways
Hmm sycamore dies fast cause can’t heal with leech
what’s your support roster looking like rn?
sadly sycamore isn’t that much if an effective physical tank
i'll see if someone else can help u, i gotta go to class rip, hope you can figure things out!
what move level is your leaf?
I did it I used protect for 2 of my unit when he sync and then killed him
oh nice great job!
3k clear?
Yeap but still 14,500
I couldn’t 3k drake
Every week he is the problem 😂
can’t blame you, i had a hard time with him last week and had to brute force him, but congrats on the clear!
Thanks mate…btw I couldn’t even poison stall him cause of slow-mo passive
I couldn’t spam so my morty could heal with sync
yeah i couldnt poison stall phoebe last week. she also got brute force treatment
you’ll get there one day
i was pretty bad at master mode like a month ago even with a developed roster
you’ll continue to acquire good pairs 
I guess I should ex my supports
that would be a great help, support exes saved me many times
Yeah I got 5/5 arc steven and 2/5 arc Cynthia plus nemoma this anni can’t complain plus I only came back like 2 months ago I was playing like couple years back
the double sync buff is a blessing
That’s what I’m thinking
haha i feel you, i returned to the game in november 2023 and had no damn clue what i was doing for like a good 4-5 months
Can’t seem to gather gems fast this anni though
definitely consider exing leaf at some point down the line, especially if she’s 3/5+
I think she is 2/5
I have around 14k paid gems I could possibly get arc lance too I guess by ur profile pic u suggest him 😂
halelu i got 3/5 sonia from 5* tickets so shes finally actually helpful
shes good below 3 but her grid is just so solid
meta wise he’s a pretty good debuffer and has crazy multipliers. though i haven’t seen the craziest from him yet since i only have him at 1/5
when will this be me, i still have her at 2/5 🫠
shes been at 2/5 for me for so long
trust one day your 3/5 sonia and my 3/5 bertha will arrive
definitely just happy it hit a non dupe tbh. i got a string of max dupes recently like cmon you cant even slightly weigh behind the scenes towards the non 5/5s? sigh
but anyway shes about to leapfrog up the ex queue
I will think about it maybe I won’t even get him
Thoughts on this team?
Dealt 0 damage and got one shot
Used the 2k preset parameters
Nate is fully grid too
According to the preset I found
I feel like it's more like the parameters and not the team
sabrina has no reason to be there
she’s mainly a special support which doesn’t correlate with nate
she also can’t tank physical attacks (which sidney and the sides utilize a lot) very well
yeah I only put her for the accuracy up
so you're saying I should put a tank?
with a lot of hp?
and def
Nate doesn’t particularly need accuracy buffs. You’d mainly want at minimum crit and Speed buffs from your Support if you’re dead-set on Nate, but tbh you’d likely be better off either off-typing or using another Flying damage-dealer
My other option is Blue
Depending on his Move Level he can work just fine
ok. im 3/5 done and current score is 6500. to hit 11k i need 4500 across 2 fights - should be relatively easy given the units i have available, but is there anything i should be wary of taking as the added condition into wallace?
i think wallace gets more powerful if you’re poisoned but that’s all i remember
my thinking was perma field and run bianca with stored power nuke but i realized i now also have olympia, who has a much better nuke so maybe no field boost and take smth else?

