Champion Stadium

[fading cradle]

dude, lysandre’s buddy move literally keeps missing nate, what are the damn chances of this

[lean lion]

Why Mina?

[mellow linden]

You don’t need to run a monotype team. Mina isn’t getting any help on her self-buffs and the entire team is fighting for Sync

If you wanna run Mina then shift gears to a physical team, if you wanna run Diantha then swap Mina and Sycamore with teammates who can help with Diantha’s setup without fighting for Sync

[old orchid]

Keep trying until it hits

[fading cradle]

can anyone take a look at my recording of the battle? i did end up replacing gordie with brycen for haze bc i got sick of the evasiveness buffs

https://youtu.be/rqjoCzoBxDc?si=My-1bS4cU9qOPvQZ

[signal plover]

im getting my ass beat on drasna lol

[woeful wolf]

Same

[signal plover]

i was trying a strategy involving stacking pmun to shred with like a single play rough… have gotten to like +7 pmun and play rough does about 50% of the centers health

just not enough, im done by first sync

i wonder if there are parameters that could make this work

rosa and wally are both exr, vigilance on rosa adrenaline on wally cs2 on valerie

[grand steppe]

Nate has a passive similar to Acute Senses. In order to deal unmitigated damage, you need to inflict a negative status change on every target. Negative Status changes include .
is not a status change, but a status condition.

Also, you could've beat the stage had you decided to actually cycle May's Trainer move, instead of spamming Muddy Water with 0 buffs.

[grand steppe]

Depends how much you raised their strength and hp.
But I imagine with rebuff, zone and it would get close.
with 1 sync buff and the above mentioned it's about 6.1 mil raw with 7 pmun

[signal plover]

im doing with 3 sync buffs

but its hard to keep rosa and valerie alive

dragon rush hurts

[grand steppe]

there's no way Drasna lives thru a play rough with those conditions and 3 sync buffs. Unless Physical DR wasn't toggled off

[fading cradle]

that really helped, tysm 🙏🙏 i swapped brycen out for viola for infestation and it did work out

[signal plover]

i mean maybe i have her strength too high idk

like 17k

3 sync buffs and +6 pmun

this isnt gonna work

and yes fairy zone is up screenshot was timed poorly

you would think seun +6 pmun 3 sync buff zone + rebuff play rough would be enough but i guess valerie just sucks

[grand steppe]

How much damage did it deal?

Looks like zone expired.

[silver dirge]

That looks pretty strange, most likely a parameter issue

[signal plover]

17k

ish

im like 99% sure zone was up

[grand steppe]

And you're certain, Physical Damage DR 8 isn't on.

It'd probably deal a lot less damage if that were the case.

[signal plover]

im certain

[silver dirge]

What other parameters do you have picked up?

[grand steppe]

17k is about ~1/4 of what I expect from the calculator.

Other questions would be, are you sure you have 7 pmun, because the screenshot doesn't show it.
Do you have max atk ranks and fairy gear?

even 1 pmun would bring you to about 25k damage, so somethings off

[signal plover]

+6 pmun here

im just doing normal 3k parameters

[grand steppe]

and how much strength and def parameters did you choose

[signal plover]

9 strength and 8 def

and 2 hp

[grand steppe]

So you're complaining about a 3 bar move, not one-shotting when you're fighting an opponent with with 2x base health and ~223 defense.

[silver dirge]

8 Defense? 😭

Those are pretty far from normal params

[grand steppe]

17k damage, puts me at only +2 in that case. Which matches up.

+6 would be about 24k damage

but uh... +def is for post-syncing strategies.

But even so, I'd imagine wally's sync should've taken a chunk out of her initial hp, however the screenshot shows you only took her to 50% at the very end

have you considered... not raising the defenses so high

[signal plover]

then how do i reach 3k lol

i raise the offenses i die in 2 hits

raise the defenses i cant do enough damage

i gotta do one or the other

(i already beat the stage i just stalled it but i’ve used these parameters for years and haven’t had any issues until now)

[silver dirge]

There are general pointers in the pins, but you just build on top of the 2.5k presets

For standard pre sync clears, defense is the main thing you make sure to avoid, and then try not to stack too much HP. Nowadays units are overpowered for 3k standards so you can get by just fine regardless, but you're making the fight so much harder than it needs to be

If your tank struggles with survivability you can go for denials and buy some turns that way

[grand steppe]

So to get around the entry MGA I used a sing to fail a turn, so I could sync before it expired.

But it was mainly strength, offenses, and some hp.

[signal plover]

so hp parameters are better than def parameters?

this whole time i did not know that

lol i neglect this game mode too much

[grand steppe]

Drasna may have been a bad a choice to do additional HP, since it's already pretty high. But it worked out.

[silver dirge]

But yeah, always go HP over defense

(If you have to) Prioritise what you can from the others first

[left storm]

ATK1>STRs>HP2-4>ATK5>HP6-8>DEF1≥ATK3>DEF3-5

This is my usual priority

[north crown]

is atk1 really that insigificant of a change?

[grand steppe]

It's only 50 pts. So yeah not much.

[sharp willow]

it's a 10% boost and most of the time it takes quite a bit more of that for attacks to become a threat

[left storm]

Atk 1 (5pts per 1%)
Atk 3 (3.33pts for 1%)
Atk 5 (3pts per 1%)

Different values

But atk 1 is just overall more optimal

[sick inlet]

Consider me stupid what does that mean

[sharp willow]

it's how many points you get for every 1% extra attack the parameter gives

for attack 1, you give a 10% boost for 50 points, for example

[woeful wolf]

Im honestly struggling. Im trying to save my good Fairy team for Nate. Just not sure how to get pass Hala and then Drasna last

I have max points rn but maybe i need ti take off some stuff but not sure if i should risk it?

[north crown]

Pasio CS difficulty? What difficulty?

[north crown]

mind posting your team comps here?

[woeful wolf]

Sure

Forgot a 3rd unit for the steel team was working on something lol

Trying to definitely save the electric team for Drasna cause she’s a pain

[north crown]

Are these all meant to be used in CS/offtype?

[woeful wolf]

Yeah their my general teams i use on the regular depending on the matchup

Anything wrong? I can fix something if needed

[north crown]

Just a lot of meticulous optimizations on my part.. here we go

[woeful wolf]

For the record i only made team 18 for one of these battles forgot to mention that

[analog timber]

How does the no negative status change for Nate work? Seems like it’s still impacting when burned or poisoned

[steel kelp]

That’s status condition

[analog timber]

What impacts status change? Like a type buff

[sharp willow]

confusion, flinch, trapped, restrained and rebuff are the main ones

there's a few other ones you don't see often like No Evasion, as well

[analog timber]

Ah ok thanks

[north crown]

yo 😎

Electric: Arguably the best team in the game, lmao.
Fire: Consider dual striking/adding another DPS pair.
Water: Suicune is counter intuitive with those physical water DPS pairs, tho idk if there's much that can be helped. Consider adding a physical offensive support.
Grass: Meta grass team lmao.
Ice: SSElesa is literally better due to sync countdown !! 2+1 = entire turn shaved off!
Fighting: If Lucario is 3/5, then you don't need Raichu. Just grid focus group 9 on her, and grab someone like Hilbert, Nita, or Lana depending on what you're running; if you're running 3+/5 Hilbert, you don't even need focus group 9.

Poison: lmao.
Ground: Decent. Should be enough , especially if you turn deny left side on turn 4 via DMax.
Flying: No support lmao. I'd suggest SSElesa, Lillie, or Sabrina to replace Lucian. Shouldn't matter if they die early; Hurricane & Nuke SLAPS!
Psychic lmao. Consider replacing SSBrendan with literally any other support, as I've spotted him in multiple other teams.
Bug: This is the messiest team yet. I strongly urge you to replace both supports, unless SSBren. is 3/5. Consider Sabrina or a aimilar unit.
Rock: lmao. sync accel + def debuffs go brr.

Ghost: Replace Mortoh. Your options would include units like ChampionRosa, Leaf, Sycamore, Marley, and LodgeDawn.
Dragon: If you have either Redlax or Chase, I highly encourage you use them in the support slot, as you can shave off a turn while also setting up restrain for Zygarde's nuke.
Dark: You really only need Skyla for this team to wipe the stage, yet if you want max crit on Darkrai, this team should still be serviceable. More gauge efficient alternative includes Leaf, Marley, and Sabrina to an extent.
Steel: lmao. Just add a random def debuffer.
Fairy: lmao.
Team 18: Good enough. Be careful, as you cannot quadqueue with Sonia's passive going off.

[rich needle]

its like unit prices when you buy groceries

and honestly its a bit odd that buying in bulk is less efficient

[woeful wolf]

Ok wow haha. Gonna have to screenshot this so i don’t forget nothing 😅

[rich needle]

pomas didnt balance economy kek

[north crown]

mostly just relatively general advice + sync accel shenanigans

[woeful wolf]

Most of these i had just taken recommendations from some of the others here. And then filled in the gaps with what i thought could help. Sadly most of the units recommended i don’t have (the newer ones) womp

[rich needle]

dark and grass and ice and electric are all autowins

ncred goes brr , sslyra goes brr, cyrus infinitely sleeps, and electric just murders

[woeful wolf]

Is SS Elesa the one with Rotom or Emolga? Cause I think they are both SS right? If not forgive me since im not to familiar with the Emolga one on account of not having it

[rich needle]

emolga is classic

rotom is sygna suit

ssac also hard carries fighting in general

because she just doesnt die

[woeful wolf]

And which Syla would ya recommend for the Dark team? I have all of em minus the Christmas one

[north crown]

Most people refer to the original unit whenevr the trainer's name is used.

[north crown]

Don't even need Darkrai's perma sleep; ChampMarnie wipes the stage first sync.

[rich needle]

well yeah

[woeful wolf]

Will admit my accidental overuse of Latios is mainly cause of needing special debuff 😂

[woeful wolf]

For which stage? Or we talking in general?

[north crown]

you don't necessarily NEED spdef debuffs, especially for some of these teams.

[rich needle]

Anything without resilience gets permanently slept

[north crown]

general, but especially in dark-weak stages.

[rich needle]

Cyrus and Lyra both do this, but Lyra is more effective under resilience conditions

But regardless with proper(ish) timing both of them negate a stage

Completely

It’s why I call them an auto win

[north crown]

broken ass kits

can probably even t=run Lodge Cynthia as sole gauge support

tho Skyla would be the safer choice

[woeful wolf]

Oof SS Kris is my best rain setter 🙃

[north crown]

You coulud just omit Nessa; you don't need 2 nukers.

[rich needle]

sskriss is an amazing water support in general

cuz rain just does that

[woeful wolf]

Well she is honestly my best water nuker i use however i can see what else i have.

[rich needle]

She’s kinda tedious to set up

[north crown]

Oh I forgot to mention that I was thinking of replacing nessa instead. The quicker we set up, the quicker Urshifu can DPS.

[rich needle]

I’d just use may tbh

So long as she raises attack kriss can raise crit

[north crown]

wonder if they have any OP special water DPS pairs

[woeful wolf]

Im getting close to beating Hala with the grass team but something always seems to just go wrong

Any I should remove?

[north crown]

change tech to strike

[woeful wolf]

Welp nvm i did it. Somehow? And beat Drasna with ease using the electric team 😅

Time to crush Nate

Or not everyone is dead

Ok got it

[gleaming jolt]

15k Unova CSMM done!
Now it's Fairy type time. Eventually I have to off type every stage for Fairy CSMM.

Is it easier or tougher than Unova one?

[dark osprey]

Congrats again. Fairy special would be quite difficult. Can use some sleep, poison stall strarts with offtyping

[woeful wolf]

Personally i find it wasn’t to bad but also no easy either depending on the peramaters and teams. Then again it’s gonna be on a player by player basis

[dark osprey]

Drasna, Nate and also Sidney are the bulky and difficult ones compared to a regular Unova CS

[gleaming jolt]

Ouch!
Ngl I found the Unova CS quite hard!
Aah!
For Nate I'll use Rei
Drasna - Geeta
Sidney - let me see later
Bruno and Hala - some SpA strikers SC Irida and someone else
I should start building team arround them!

[woeful wolf]

Not sure if this will help anyone but here’s everything i used

[north crown]

1. Would be better if you used #1010274591601598555
2. All teams have at least one MasterFair 💀

[silver dirge]

Periodic clear posts here are fine, if they're not we'll let them know. And I'm not sure how the latter matters

[silver dirge]

We just went for straight up destruction I see

[woeful wolf]

Oops im sorry

[main crow]

Me when I throw SS Gladion/SS Mina/Penny straight to Nate's face

[old orchid]

the correct way

Nate deserves the overkill

[woeful wolf]

Mh hm such a monster

[main crow]

When the bmove did 100k on full str

[grand trout]

I chucked gladion on drasna

Nate belongs to ss wally

[fading cradle]

trying to see if i can 3k one stage on unova cs but i don’t know which parameters to put for my team or what the pinned message even means for pre sync 🧍‍♀️ someone explain to me like im a newbie

[old orchid]

pre sync = you clear the battle before the opponent's first sync. usually you pick offensive parameters

post sync is the opposite of pre sync

[fading cradle]

got it, what would be appropriate parameters for a team like this? i haven’t fully completed a csmm yet, so im still a little lost on which parameters to use (other than no status conditions for this stage)

[old orchid]

that team can definitely do pre sync

for pre sync, you aim to clear as fast as possible, so dmg dealers with great firepower are suitable for this playstyle

tho i would replace Shauna with another sun abuser, or simply a Grass dmg dealer

[fading cradle]

got it, who would be ideal?

[old orchid]

the best option is Brendan, he is self sufficient

but you have to give him Dauntless skill and turn off both physical and special dmg reduction parameters which cost 100 each

Selene is slow to setup (she has to buff attack by herself, not to mention applying restrain on each target)

another option is using a defense debuffer like Nanu so Erika hits a bit harder

[fading cradle]

alright, added him. my current parameters are no status conditions or interferences, special damage reduction, support strike and tech 3x damage, sync buff 5, special damage reduction, and gradual healing. currently that’s 700 points, what else can i do?

[old orchid]

don't pick Tech and Strike x3 dmg, you are using SS Erika and Brendan

unless you are certain they won't faint during the battle

the pins have recommended presets for 2,5k pts, you can adjust the params to fit into the team. then carefully read the 3k guide to add the remaining 500 pts

[fading cradle]

hmmm i tried on type pre sync more hp and got absolutely wrecked LMAO, i must be doing this wrong

[old orchid]

remember to try to adapt the parameters to fit into your team

if you failed with the HP set, switch to more offensive / less bulk on opponents params

[rich needle]

I did a little trolling

And yes @old orchid it was with those horrific parameters from so long ago

[old orchid]

[rich needle]

Lillie might do more damage if I exd her but like

Man xerneas fairy power goes hard

[loud stratus]

I'm trying to clear drasna stage with base lisia (altaria) as the main damage dealer. She counters dragon zone. Just need the right set of params.

[rich needle]

i cleared with lisia by uh

using ncblue and ncleaf

they dragged her across the finish line

and yes i had standard damage reduction

so lisia could actually use moonblast xd

[loud stratus]

So only lisia's moonblast was dealing damage?

[rich needle]

well

that was what was supposed to happen

but ncleaf sync damage still does 12k

but it was mooostly lisia

sorta

[loud stratus]

I'm pairing her with sycamore. I need to weaken sides with dazzling gleam.

Also, almost didn't recognize you Kirby

[rich needle]

hey i have a rowlet there

but i think you need a more broken support to carry her across the finish line

[loud stratus]

I almost cleared with lisia + togeburgh + sycamore. Died to salamence's final heat wave

[rich needle]

im shocked that almost work

tho my params are a bit harsher than most

[loud stratus]

But yeah lisia's damage isn't great

With lisia i can pick up no wtz and crit defense params

[rain turret]

I freaking did all E4 offtype to save gladion for nate and I cant beat him

supports are mina and hop
any tips?

[rotund lagoon]

Which Gladion and which Mina?

[rain turret]

magearna and tapu fini
both exd 1/5

gladion has ex role too

[rotund lagoon]

Don’t you need a status change on opponent Nate?

[formal vigil]

Basically rebuff restrain confusion trap

[rain turret]

oh that's the issue

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah try using that, cause SS Gladion should wreck the stage as long as the gimmick is met.

Whoever you choose, switch out Hop, and make sure they’re fine on gauge.

[rain turret]

I already used nc rosa and sst red

[rotund lagoon]

I mean, these apply

Could aim for trap, that’s the most accessible one.

[rain turret]

so Im trying with gladion, mina and variety kiawe(arcanine), but the issue is that fleur cannon keeps missing

nvm done it

[north crown]

10k with a pretty new F2P account 😎

[sweet umbra]

Bruh, did a flawless no-hit battle against NC Nate 3k with non-limited pairs (BP Valerie, BP Clemont and Serena)

[rich needle]

I mean

Sleep chains do be chaining

[left storm]

^

Esp with go viral involved

[sweet umbra]

Yeah. Didn't expect that after all the practice runs. Somehow one of the side mon woke up before putting NC Nate to sleep again and make it attack, but in my recording try, the stars was aligned

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah that happens sometimes

[placid shell]

What’s the highest number go viral has? 9?

[mellow linden]

Yes

[rich needle]

Is there even a lower go viral

[paper summit]

yes, VLance only has Go Viral 4

[rich needle]

That’s wild

Why

[old orchid]

All of these are pre sync

[sick inlet]

14 units like me

[old orchid]

I could only use 10 units but i am not insane yet

[sick inlet]

I definitely can't do duos with just fairies

I used my whole fairy roster for that 14 units clear

[old orchid]

[low linden]

Then there's me where I overkill csmm each time either ontype or offtype

[gleaming jolt]

I did Pasio Special CS without MM, it felt like I can't do MM offtype at this rate!

It's way tougher than a average CSMM!

But I am satisfied with the 700 gems also!

[mild hatch]

Yeah I feel that I’m in the same boat. I just don’t care for MM because I never seem to use the right parameters

[sharp willow]

We do have presets for 2500 points per stage pinned here, id recommend at least giving those a test

[gleaming jolt]

Well you can start with general CSMM going on!
I feel like I am getting better every week!
But still a long way to Pasio Special CSMM!

[mild hatch]

Oh I’m just gonna tackle Pasio special without param. I just want the gems lmao

[gleaming jolt]

Give it a try atleast!
Begin with the weekly CSMM they are not that much tough.
If something is not working, ask here. They are great help!

And also there is a YouTube channel dedicated to 15k CSMM F2P! It is great help too.

[rose ermine]

15k slightly worrying this week

[rich needle]

Bloop the only hard one is Nate and drasna

Cuz kalos

The others are from their respective csmm

[old orchid]

Hala hits really hard if he chooses to use Hammer Arm

not to mention the innate boost to his atks

[rich needle]

Do the elio thing

[old orchid]

no

[rich needle]

I mean hey if u run out of options

You have 3 autoclears

Sleep chain and poison stall

[gleaming jolt]

It's wierd!
I have struggled most against Bruno and Nate!
Bruno is the worst imo!

[old orchid]

you can split Poppy and BP Valerie for 2 on type clears

also bringing Roxanne to a Fighting stage is not a good idea

[rich needle]

That Nate team have like no rebuff no

Or trap

[old orchid]

yeah

[rich needle]

Seem like all damage from flinch

Which is wild

Your Bruno team is also just ur weakest one

Leon has no support to help his awful setup

[old orchid]

Ghetsis is also nearly a deadweight in Geeta team

[gleaming jolt]

I used it like that because Bruno is at lowest HP

[gleaming jolt]

For lowering Atk and SPA as mentioned in the Boss details!

Also I used Blue instead of Leon at first but they are nearly the same for offtyping!

[old orchid]

with Geeta she can carry the team, you don't need to worry much about debuffs when you bring a good tank

[rich needle]

Put bpvalerie on bruno

Poppy can probably do it without her

[gleaming jolt]

Both are 1/5. Not much of grid option!

But I will try

[rich needle]

Eh?

Zero candy?

4* I mean

[gleaming jolt]

BP Val is 5*

[rich needle]

Er

No

[gleaming jolt]

Oh! I thought all the BPs are 5*

Let me check if I had some candies left!

[grand trout]

aw

I won't have enough 5 stars to ex gordie

I was hoping to ex him before next week cs

Would his nuke be good enough to ko alder even though he's not exed?

[lunar meadow]

I haven't ever seen anyone talking about Gordie nuke

The issue is that he sets fire rebuff, and sets sunny day.

He's just better to treat as a secondary support/tech to buff a fire type unit, than a rock type damage dealer or sync nuke

[grand trout]

I suppose I'll ask @left storm

[sharp willow]

It should work fine, his nuke has a decent bit to it

Inertia + Scorching Sync + Cakewalk, even if not fully setup, should do plenty to Alder if youre not giving him a ton of bulk

[left storm]

Yeah

The issue is sides

You'll want someone like dojo Gloria to compensate his TM buffing and his debuffing needs

His max move is pretty nice so you can kill a side with it likely

The problem is the third opponent

Even with ramming speed, 40 BP is 40 bp

[grand trout]

I'll try him with paulo then

[left storm]

I recommend a burner possibly too

His grid likes burn multipliers because of the tile placements

[civic crater]

You could probably deny left use second sync for middle and use the max to finish off right immediately after middle if you have good enough multiplier enablers

[weak sleet]

For the special stadium is Nate designed for champion Gladion?

[mellow linden]

Penny would be the main pair the fight is designed to favor

[weak sleet]

Wait it's designed for a support pair?

[mellow linden]

At least partially. The opponents have damage reduction unless affected by a negative status change (which Penny counters via Fairy Rebuff) and the center opponent has evasion shenanigans + Good Form & Rising Tide (which Penny can counter via B Move)

[weak sleet]

I plan to off type using the rats, maybe frogs, and even champion red. But what else could I build?

Ah so basically penny as support then a damage dealer can take care of Nate?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, Penny + one of your stronger Fairy damage-dealers should destroy Nate no problem

[eternal lodge]

rapidash and magearna with basically any support should be able to deal with any stage

[weak sleet]

What can I build for the other stages?

Bruno should be easy to off type with anything I assume?

[mellow linden]

The other stages are just repeats of existing stages, so should be easy enough

Main stage to look out for is Drasna’s high damage output

[weak sleet]

So a strong support for that stage, would diantha and Wally be sufficient?

[mellow linden]

Any reasonably strong team should do fine, so sure

[weak sleet]

Adaman, ice champion red, and rats can clear the others?

[weak sleet]

Is there a particular order I should do these in? Or at least certain opponents I should avoid at certain points

[mellow linden]

Consider doing Bruno or Hala on round 2 since they aren't able to take advantage of the boosted special damage, otherwise it doesn't matter much (if at all)

[weak sleet]

Noted thanks!

[noble plaza]

Can I do stage 5 of the regular CS with special dragon pairs?

[old orchid]

no one is stopping you from doing that

[noble plaza]

yes i know but is it a good idea?

[old orchid]

yes, why not

your best options are special ones anyway

[north crown]

Ingo/SSKris/SSMorty, Zinnia, Lucas goes hard

[sinful heron]

Ok so, what sort of params should I be using for offtype?

I don't offtype ever since the jump from 2k but I have literally 2 workable fairy options

Maybe 3 at a push if you count SS Hau as damage and not just an enabler

[old orchid]

SS Hau's fairy dmg is bad

[sinful heron]

Ok so enabler as usual, good to know

[old orchid]

but he can enabler Katherine for example

[sinful heron]

I genuinely don't think I've ever used him for more than fairy zone and speed support/fixing a fucked quadqueue

So atm there's my A team of Sycamore/SS Hau/NY Lisia, that's on reserve for Nate. I can probably harangue something for Mawilerie, that's two, and then... Idk

Penny might be able to enable lodge lillie or katherine?

[old orchid]

that Nate team doesn't have a status change to counter him

move Penny + a special nuker to there

[sinful heron]

Then I'm fucked

No special nukers

[old orchid]

Katherine

[sinful heron]

Unless I offtype

[old orchid]

or even Valerie works

you are underestimating Penny's enabling potential

[sinful heron]

Really not, rebuff never feels that impactful

I had to be told the values bc it felt like 10% per stage

[old orchid]

30%/50%/60% actually

1/5 is enough to make Valerie great

[sinful heron]

Ok so Penny/SS Hau/Katherine for Nate then, hope it works.

NY Lisia and BP Valerie can conjure something I hope

[old orchid]

yes, split them into 2 teams

[sinful heron]

I don't think lodge lillie or bede are doing shit here

[old orchid]

and bring physical supports to help them

they can

[sinful heron]

Bede is 1/5 and lodge lillie just kinda sucks

[old orchid]

also you should bring a Fairy Zone setter to Drasna
the old lady has Dragon Zone

[sinful heron]

Iirc she only pops that before her sync so I'll probably resort to my NY Lisia strat of "kill her first"

[old orchid]

she doesn't suck if you know how to adjust teams and parameters, like what i did here: #1053291896778264597 message (EX does help but non EX is possible)

if you don't feel like using them then it's fine to offtype

but don't trash good units

[sinful heron]

Offtype is my main issue bc normally when I try and offtype, half of them just don't cut it on 3k

SS Steven doesn't if they have AoE, he dies before he can sync again

[old orchid]

that's probably parameter issue

1/5 SS Steven doesn't struggle at offtype 3k with Bianca and a good defensive tank

[sinful heron]

Yeah my usual params are very aggressively presync so you get like, max strength and both power up on hits

Offtype I just drop standard damage reduction for something or other, I forget

[old orchid]

that doesnt sound aggressive, you can trade some str params for offensive ones

[sinful heron]

It's very aggressive, because a chunk of the time the support dies before my second sync

[old orchid]

how about trying the suggested ones in the pins out?

you still have to adjust a bit for them to fit into your teams

[civic crater]

I cleared Drasna with Lodge Lillie lmao, she’s fine here

[main crow]

Pretty sure LLillie can pre sync Drasna given the appropiate set up

[old orchid]

People are shitting on f2p units because they are not 2 buttons dmg dealer

[main crow]

imho some people are too overrelying on them ngl

[civic crater]

I presynced Drasna with LLillie so you definitely can

[lean lion]

prsynced drasna with Sycamore + Furisode girl

[gleaming jolt]

Imo the only problem with F2Ps are they need more investment, but once they reach their maximum potential they rock not gonna lie.

[old orchid]

There are indeed shit pairs, but Fairy doesn't have anyone at that level

Yes even Valerie

[viral sapphire]

Any gimmicks need to aware of before trying spl stadium?

[old orchid]

Yes, check the pinned infographic

[main crow]

Nate wants negative status change ie rebuff, restraint, no evasion, etc

[lean lion]

have never tried regular Valerie but BP Valerie is really good

[old orchid]

Valerie just needs zone at minimum to shine

[main crow]

guaranteed SEUN on SD is nice

[old orchid]

While pairs like Lorelei, Brycen and Wulfric are hard to setup why are they Ice type is this a coincidence

[lean lion]

difficult to set up is fine as long as they get the job done when set up properly

[civic crater]

Doesn’t Lorelei want like freeze and hail to setup?

I feel like if you can set up Lorelei you probably have no need for Lorelei on your team lol

[dark osprey]

Lol. True. Her grid could have at least made her more tanky

[civic crater]

I love most of these FTP units. Clearing Bruno with Valerie and Sycamore was admittedly pretty hard because no rebuff or zone to boost Valerie, but BP Valerie and Lodge Lillie went pretty hard. My only limited fairies are SS Gladion and PalSerena

[old orchid]

I'm willing to make Valerie or BP Erika nuking work but not Lorelei lol

She needs NC Red enabling her

[dark osprey]

The 3K parameters have made it even more harder to make bad units work. Maybe there were older videos of Lorelei clearing

Haven't seen any egg clefable clears this time around though. Used to be passable dps

[main crow]

If DeNA was bothered to add new parameters when 3k dropped there's a chance it could still work

[old orchid]

Maybe it can but it demands heavy support

Penny and a zone setter

[dark osprey]

Since there are a few decent fairy nukes maybe egg clefable could help with dps at least

[dark osprey]

Just curious. Was BP Valerie hard due to being vulnerable to sides with earthquakes?

[civic crater]

No I mean original Valerie lol

I used BP Valerie on Sidney I think and that was very smooth

These were my clears. Bruno and Drasna gave me the most trouble iirc but it was more because I couldn’t come up with a solid move order than anything

[dark osprey]

Ah ok. Original Valerie does have her damage issues

[civic crater]

Yeah it was just the pairing really didn’t have great damage output and Valerie do be squishy so the sync took her out if I couldn’t wrap it up presync

Unfortunately I forgot to record that clear and my Drasna one didn’t save for some reason

[dark osprey]

Look like fun clears

[civic crater]

Yeah somewhat unsurprisingly dropping the opponent’s defenses really takes some burden off of the DPS to have crazy output lol

Secondary DPS would be better but I just didn’t have many fairy units

[dark osprey]

Didn't have egg Sylveon I guess. Also Mina would have been a good choice to add

[civic crater]

I was originally going to use Mina for one of them she just didn’t really fit into any of the comps

And unfortunately I don’t have any of the egg Eeveelutions I was inactive during the event

[empty portal]

What are some good unit combos to beat Pasio stadium? My fairy units are ok but missing a few I see being used regularly.

[sharp willow]

It depends on your roster, but really most competent teams should suffice

[civic crater]

MrUNC MOST fairy units are totally fine for it. I even managed to do a stage with the Valerie you get from the story alongside Sycamore. As with any other stages just be sure to cover what they can’t do by themselves

[onyx ice]

BP Valerie is a great f2p fairy striker, sycamore can also deal decent damage

[civic crater]

For sure. BP Valerie is easily spotlight pool level

[rich needle]

i used lillie sycamore as a team with unoptimized parameters

i wouldnt recommend using them as ur only damage but on a giga post sync team you can do it

[noble plaza]

Struggling with Bruno

[old orchid]

Katherine takes too many turns to setup and buff herself

you should replace Kali with a crit buffer at least

NC Blue is the best option, he also helps with atk debuffing

[north crown]

Could also probably run LodgeElesa to round out the team with her kit

[grand trout]

CC can go suck ass

[north crown]

Just Sleep ™️

[grand trout]

Not a lot of fairies can induce sleep, which makes it a challenge in monotype

[north crown]

Just don’t do monotype, smh.

[grand trout]

Just don't comment as well, because you're not helping.

I can deal with cc. It still sucks ass.

[north crown]

It is what it is.

Fairies don’t have much physical bulk

[onyx ice]

Isn't just summer lyra (and only on sync)

[keen jasper]

I mean, a lot of fairy units have Charm so that kinda helps

[polar stone]

This Valerie comp looks pretty cool. What parameters did you use?

[undone ether]

CSMM for tomorrow o/

[gleaming jolt]

Isn't she is Dawn! Seen it for the first time.

[undone ether]

wat

[gleaming jolt]

Dawn and Oricorio!
Nvm

[undone ether]

ou

[dark osprey]

Just got lucky with a copy of SC Lyra recently. Is yours more than 1/5 and if so any good to candy her?

[civic crater]

Unfortunately I forgot to film that one. I THINK I presynced so I probably had the minimum possible HP since otherwise no chance they’re taking mid out soon enough. I’m pretty sure you have to queue up another draining kiss after your second sync before they can queue theirs or you lose.

[polar stone]

No worries at all! Still should be enough to go off and mess around with options, so thanks for reply!

[civic crater]

I also remember using X Sp Atk turn 1 with Sylveon to buff up the following 2 draining kisses before Sycamore can sync, though I can’t recall if stat boosts work exactly like MSG to know if that was worth the turn lol

I also allowed status conditions in case I could get a poison on mid with poison tail, but I don’t believe I did get one on my winning run so it likely doesn’t matter

[undone ether]

Shes 1/5 for me. There were times when she'd want 3/5 but its tough ive got so many supports that want the candy

[dark osprey]

Ah thanks. Don't know what teams benefit from her since there's Courtney with the zone as well and yeah same issue with the candy requirement

[old orchid]

Ground Zone is much better there

[dark osprey]

Yeah I guess. Maybe will use Lyra with Courtney then

[civic crater]

Phanpy is cute that must count for something

[civic crater]

What are the weaknesses for this upcoming week’s CS?

[paper summit]

or pomatools, whatever you prefer

[civic crater]

It’s all a mess on mobile idk I’ll figure it out ig

[tired sleet]

+pins

[frozen depot]

See below on how to check channel pins!
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[wild scaffold]

Whats with this nonsense CS

Good Fairy unit still struggles

[mellow linden]

I assume you mean the Nate fight since all the other stages are just copy-pasted directly from other CS regions

The Nate fight seems to be primarily designed for Penny. If you don’t have her you may want to bring someone with Haze, Snatch, or another way to remove buffs

[wild scaffold]

Normal one

Im using Diantha for Bruno

And he is tanking dmg

[noble plaza]

These are my fairy types

not a lot to work with unfortunately 😔

[wild scaffold]

This CS is BS

You need high fairy units

[noble plaza]

😔

[old orchid]

nah your roster is good enough

[wild scaffold]

How these can’t beat Bruno

[old orchid]

replace Elio with an offensive support, and use Bede instead of Kali

[noble plaza]

No sleep?

also what do you mean by an offensive support? Someone who can boost Special Attack?

[old orchid]

you don't need sleep

yes, someone who can buff spatk and crit for Katherine

so she can focus on debuffing

[noble plaza]

alright

finally got through it! thank you!

[old orchid]

[mellow linden]

Diantha is getting basically zero help from teammates

[noble plaza]

who do I use for Bruno R2? Or do I offtype? I dont want to use my good offtypes too early

[mellow linden]

You need to adjust the team so she doesn’t have to spend so many turns on self-buffs

[old orchid]

Bruno is easy so you can on type without much trouble

[mellow linden]

Also Skyla and SS Blue are redundant

[old orchid]

save offtypes for harder stages

[dark osprey]

Probably try and replace ss blue with ss elesa maybe and try

[mellow linden]

If you must use one of them then pick one or the other

Worst case scenario BP Valerie should be able to win with a solid team

[wild scaffold]

I just beat it

[noble plaza]

Wait I meant Hala I'm sorry asdfgfdsa

[old orchid]

Hala just asks for a bulky tank

Lodge Lillie has good matchup against him

[noble plaza]

i was actually thinking Lodge Lillie

I'm not sure if I should do dual support though for special attack buffs and critical hit buffs.

[old orchid]

double supports work, but do note that Lillie doesn't have dps to handle sides

so the supports should have strong healing or any kind of stun to help her out

[noble plaza]

Hmm. So a sleeper or flincher, maybe?

[old orchid]

yeah

[noble plaza]

got it

where should I use BP Valerie? Sidney, Drasna, or Nate?

[old orchid]

Drasna imo, Volo is also a good counter because she got Dragon Zone

you can offtype the rest

[noble plaza]

yeah I was planning on using Volo for Drasna

Sydney doesn't have Acute Senses or something does he?

[old orchid]

he doesn't, but he demands spatk debuffs and paralysis cure

[noble plaza]

got it

[old orchid]

Bede is the best counter, mb for suggesting him earlier

[noble plaza]

i already used bede unfortunately

yeah 😅

[old orchid]

there is plenty of good offtype options to brute force tho

[noble plaza]

sure

I have SST Red and NC Red, but I might save the latter for Nate because I also have Irida

[old orchid]

good plans

[noble plaza]

what sort of support should I go?

[old orchid]

Sidney is mainly special but his Close Combat and sync are physical

any decent tank is fine here

[noble plaza]

i should also have special attack debuff?

[old orchid]

yes, for more comfortable clear

[tulip python]

What’s the preferred order for Neon Champ this week?

[old orchid]

Just avoid Sidney and Drasna on R2, because they have special moves

[noble plaza]

What sort of support should I have for Volo and BP Valerie vs Drasna/

[old orchid]

A bulky tank

Drasna hits hard even without zone

She also wants her attacks debuffed, but Volo's exclusive lucky skill can deal with it

In short, just a bulk tank

[wild scaffold]

This CS was horrible

But got 15k points

Valerie is surprisingly good

Very good, had to EX her and saw potential

A nice physical fairy unit

[noble plaza]

I can't seem to hit Drasna hard enough for my nuke, or survive post sync

[old orchid]

what params are you using

[old orchid]

don't pick def up

if you are aiming to pre sync don't pick too many bulk params

[noble plaza]

but if i go the opposite route i'll die in a few hits

also it's only the 10% defense up, is it going to make that much of a difference?

[toxic cobalt]

It can yes, if you’re worried about atk take hp

[noble plaza]

which one?

what parameters should i swap out?

[old orchid]

at very least replace def up with interference immunity

also don't use Volo's B Move until after Drasna casts Dragon Wish

[noble plaza]

right

[old orchid]

if Volo was EX'ed i would recommended syncing with him first

[noble plaza]

...that's not a bad idea

[old orchid]

all Field units want to get to EX, for the extended field

[noble plaza]

Sycamore is not taking hits well

But idk who would be better

[dark osprey]

Would you have Ss blue at 2/5 or so?

Thing is that Drasna is mainly special but also has a deadly dragon rush

Since Volo isn't EXed, you'd need an EX support at least.

[noble plaza]

Yes, I do!

And I just EX'd Volo

[dark osprey]

Oh. Then it gets better I guess. You could try using the B move the first turn after EX support sync. Then get boosted play roughs and use Sinnoh circle before the next sync with Volo maybe to replace zone and a SEUN boosted play rough after to try and finish it

Not sure if Volos sync would be that great at 2/5 especially though

Could give it a try

[noble plaza]

Shouldn't I nuke with BP Valerie?

I mean, I have special damage reduction on

[dark osprey]

Ah. Can try that first then

[noble plaza]

I'm trying to but my support dies before I can

Or I struggle with gauge

[dark osprey]

Oh. Even with Ss blue having gauge Accel

That's weird

[noble plaza]

I've been trying with ss blue but he's squishy

[dark osprey]

I actually tried a run but the sync just feel slightly short to pre sync

[dark osprey]

Hopefully gridded with wise entry and syncing first

[noble plaza]

Not syncing with EX Volo?

[noble plaza]

Also he's only 2/5

[dark osprey]

Oh ok. But still the safety net will help in surviving mostly. If you've got better supports could try with them too. Wonder why Sycamore wasn't cutting it

Maybe the unlucky dragon rushes

Plus volos sync damage would be nullified and you'd want as much sync damage as possible for them bulky centres like Drasna

[swift swan]

Updated

[keen jasper]

All of the rounds except the 4th round are poggers

[toxic cobalt]

Untrue, it's 100% poggers

[main crow]

Remind me status condition is things like confusion, flinch, etc right?

[undone ether]

Is that Infinite Ffield effects? 😮

Kewl.

[noble plaza]

I got to 13% on Drasna but sync killed me 😭😭😭

[dark osprey]

Argh. Btw any other fairy tech nukes left?

[noble plaza]

Mmm

[dark osprey]

Can try the EX support sync followed by Volo sync plus a boosted play rough after that

Oh BP Valerie is EXed. Then she's the best option I guess

Can try removing a little more bulk and hope for better RNG

[north crown]

huh... that team should theoretically clear jsut fine

[dark osprey]

Status conditions is the other one paralysis, sleep etc

[north crown]

have VOlo use TM on himself, spam DG, use circle turn 5, BMove on turn 6, nuke, ez.

[noble plaza]

I MANAGED TO DO IT AFTER SOME RNG AND MESSING WITH PARAMS

GOD THAT WAS NOT FUN

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HELP

[north crown]

did you not run adrenaline?

[noble plaza]

I did

[grand trout]

@left storm i did it

[trail smelt]

Only thing of note this week is that I used THE WRONG FALKNER so I entered the battle without any support. Still won LMAO

[toxic cobalt]

What self-buffing does to a striker

[dim depot]

Okay, this Fairy CS is gonna be hard. I'm noticing I only have one viable Fairy striker. No wonder the Water/Fairy High Score was so tough for me.

I thought I'd start with an easy one, Bruno. But I can't win without holding back my only striker

[toxic cobalt]

Use Mina, has the right debuff for Bruno

[north crown]

r u fr? you can ontype every single stage

[grave wyvern]

There's really no need to be so rude, they're asking for help

[dim depot]

These fairy tech nukers have let me down every single time

[toxic cobalt]

Tech nuking can be rough it's true

[north crown]

gardevoir nuke, summermarnie nuke, deer post sync, slurpuff nuke, mina nuke

just roll for crit and you're good

[toxic cobalt]

Mina's 3 bar is not bad though as dps

If you can run her with a disruptor all the better

[dim depot]

Who works better on which battle?

[toxic cobalt]

Mina is fine for Bruno

Sidney and Drasna are the ones you want to be wary of

[dim depot]

This is hard. Not sure I'm gonna bother with max points for this one

[toxic cobalt]

Round 4 is good for stalling

[keen jasper]

Oh god stalling

[silver dirge]

Nothing wrong with stalling

[toxic cobalt]

Oh god an easy way to win

[manic kiln]

tEcH nUkE iS bAd
And those 2 are f2p units, just some testing I did the other day. Also worked for drasna…

roster def enough to ontype, so just work on team building and parameters

[left storm]

Noice

[left storm]

Gib ex please DeNa

[manic kiln]

now show your whale supports

[grand trout]

[left storm]

1/5 penny 1/5 SSwally

Both without ex role

[manic kiln]

still
you had zone, rebuff, -spdef

[left storm]

"1/5 supports = "

Idk about that tbh

[manic kiln]

~~limited units = ~~

[left storm]

Breh

[dark osprey]

Taking the example of the fairy CS, Is it easier to offtype/poison stall the easier, less bulkier stages or the other way around?

[swift swan]

Doesn't matter since poison deals damage based on percentage as far as I know

But ofc if you want to poison stall imo it's better to stall the bulkier stages so you can offtype the less bulky ones. Considering offtyping forces you to add bulk anyway

[left storm]

^

[dark osprey]

That's a valid point. So are Drasna and Sidney for eg. easier to stall even with their gimmicks and stronger attacks? Like Drasna with dragon zone and all. Guess Sidney should be straight forward

[old orchid]

For Drasna you need to clear zone by any means, Sidney demands spatk debuff and paralysis Immunity, tho the latter can be ignored methinks

[left storm]

https://x.com/pokemas_game/status/1795050152031330777?t=eQTG0FYcDZ_34a8ijGoLGw&s=19

Lol

[old orchid]

Took them 7 hours to acknowledge the bug

[hushed sorrel]

are there any gimmicks for this week's clears?

[trail smelt]

Well there’s always gimmicks in CS

[hushed sorrel]

I read through the passives. Am I missing anything?

[grand trout]

What bug

[old orchid]

The perma field param doesnt work on Grimsley stage

[old orchid]

You are missing Marshal's correct name

I'm sure Shauntal has one more gimmick besides the Dauntless, i don't remember it is Sunny Day after sync or Will o Wisp before sync

[undone ether]

The sides do hypnosis 😭

(the left one)

[toxic cobalt]

Valerie gaming

[swift swan]

Oh gosh it's that valerie

[dim depot]

Finally, Bruno down. I'm skipping the last 2 rewards since I don't need them. I had to take off power on hit 1 and auto heal

[keen jasper]

Not the other one? You're insane

[left storm]

Is she EXed?

I really struggled when pairing her with torchic back 10 months ago

[latent bison]

Anyone know who to do for round 3 Marshall I usually do skyla dararch and Leon but I already did Leon.

[loud stratus]

5/5 blue is great
Also no lodge skyla?

[latent bison]

No I have been focusing on leaf and it's been a nightmare

[dim depot]

So I'm finally at Champion Nate. What am I supposed to do here in this "made for Penny" battle? Been hard enough getting here essential with no strikers.

[toxic cobalt]

Nah, basic weak Valerie doing her thing

First time she's ever worked tbh

[old orchid]

Replace Lillie with a bulkier tank

[toxic cobalt]

Does Champion Nate have the bad sentry entry or the pointless sentry entry?

[dim depot]

But also, don't I need to lower stats?

[swift swan]

you kinda have to, yeah

[swift swan]

pointless

[dim depot]

Alright! Summer Marnie pulled through after all

[dark osprey]

Other than the good form and some other attack increase

[dim depot]

Rising Tide. So annoying. I forgot to sync with support first but I guess it didn't matter

[dark osprey]

Nice. Hope you got the 15K.

[swift swan]

but he has good form so it's not really pointless either

[dim depot]

Nah, I did 14k. This was among the hardest Champion Stadium runs ever for me

[dark osprey]

Ah. So close. Could do a couple easy ones as offtypes and then get the 15K a bit more easier

[dim depot]

Even on normal CS runs, I only do 14.5k. It's difficult to justify off-typing on these because of how you have to redistribute its points.

[toxic cobalt]

I have no idea what this means

[old orchid]

nov meant he is very healthy Good Form powers up move the more raised stats the user has

[toxic cobalt]

Ah yes, already planning to debuff attack. Trying to figure out what status condition to apply and how.

[mellow linden]

It’s a negative status change

Not a status condition

So Rebuff, Restrain, Trap, Confusion, Flinch

Maybe some other uncommon ones I can’t remember rn

[toxic cobalt]

Yes that thing

Obviously not flinch

[mellow linden]

Confusion’s probably the most accessible

[toxic cobalt]

Does gradual healing work?

[mellow linden]

Not this time, iirc

It’s something different from Acute Senses

[toxic cobalt]

never know if these new names are new things or just renamed old things

[meager agate]

Was gonna use Ethan on Grimsley R3 this week, met with a brutal awakening

So that sucks

Now I gotta use my fallback fire team

[dark osprey]

Ethan with the power boost grid under sun does some decent damage

[meager agate]

yeah but Grimsley 🅱️roke

so no infinite sun

also my support was NOT built to take it lmao

[toxic cobalt]

Strikeamore and his backing vocals

[meager agate]

i got 8 days to figure out how to make this work
something’s gotta give eventually

[old orchid]

you don't need to use Sycamore

any bulky support with gauge works

[meager agate]

no you don't understand

fairy only

and i don't have any of the overpowered mfs

like

any of the supports

provided any exist

idk

[old orchid]

well that team can do it pre sync

[meager agate]

right now the problem is sycamore dies too fast

i can take out sides ez but when the scale shot hits he's gone

[old orchid]

how about going for hyper offense that everything dies to Gladion's B Move

[meager agate]

so all atk nodes and then pray i live long enough for b move to ko?

[old orchid]

it's TM -> Fluer Cannon -> B Move

Lillie just has to land the Wrap

[meager agate]

Which is fairly consistent actually

Assuming R2 for the bonus dmg

[old orchid]

that team doesn't need to sync to win with hyper offense, but yeah it helps a lot if you can reach sync somehow

[meager agate]

how much strength is acceptable

[old orchid]

you may not need strength

go for -3 sync cd + max atk

[meager agate]

yep ok

ah shit can't do tm and wrap same turn

[old orchid]

open with X Speed first

[meager agate]

don't use sycamore accel?

[old orchid]

you have to do triple queue at the start, the MGA doesn't take effect yet

[toxic cobalt]

Could be spending that stamina to get turn them into and EX Gladion

[meager agate]

this is closest so far
first screenshot chose to sync with sycamore, second screenshot synced with gladion

[left storm]

Why aren't you just running Gordie over lodge Lillie for a consistent status change

[silver dirge]

.

[left storm]

Ahhh

[meager agate]

As you can imagine pretty much all my other options went to the last four battles

Much as I would have liked to have Penny here, she was required elsewhere
either way this fight is too close to not be winnable, just gotta figure out what tips the needle

[dark osprey]

Is Katherine used already? Maybe better for the evasion. Can also 50% confuse if gridded. Plus would also recommend gridding Sycamore for recuperation and moonblast on a roll since the horn leech recommended grids do not help with std damage reduction

[meager agate]

this pains me to say but katherine happened while i was on hiatus

that was out of my control

these are definitively my only options

[dark osprey]

Should be doable for sure without as well. Just some RNG. Maybe try to deny the sidemons with B move queued after EX support sync and dazzling gleam

At least there's more chance to reach second sync then

[meager agate]

I have reached second sync with my original strategy (once), however unfortunately it wasn't really enough to overcome the hp count in center

[dark osprey]

So probably a parameter thing

[manic kiln]

def parameter issue, you shouldn't need 2nd sync at all

also 1/5 gladion, 1st sync sycamore

bmove should wipe the stage

[meager agate]

well you saw my numbers, and that was following the hyper offense params gakon laid out

[old orchid]

did you pick Special dmg reduction by accident?

[old orchid]

your numbers are in half of Lost's numbers

[meager agate]

just checked, that's a negative, it was correct

[old orchid]

what are your used params?

[manic kiln]

just all str and atk

[calm marsh]

His B Move reachs full power when enemy at -6SpA

[manic kiln]

yeah i just noticed that

+2 sp atk you should be at -6

if you miss too many time reset the run

can also use satisfied snarl in lillie's grid

[meager agate]

already got that

[manic kiln]

ok so if you got your parameter right then it's just execution/RNG, just make sure the mid is at -6 sp atk, it's +2 in your image

[meager agate]

right side either kills sycamore by dragon pulse, kills everyone by heat wave, or ruins the run by x sp atk all

[manic kiln]

sycamore is going down anyway, grid for OAR moonblast for another sp atk drop, you just need bmove to clear so after sync sycamore can die

[meager agate]

well he doesn't die in your screenshot so idk

either way he does live a first turn scale shot

[manic kiln]

because they used buffs mostly in that run, that's rng

[meager agate]

ok but isnt the run ruined if right side uses x sp atk all

[manic kiln]

it's just +2, all 3 can drop sp atk, gladion can drop -2, my runs were consistent, it's not like I have to reset too many times

[meager agate]

most i can get is -1 so far

[manic kiln]

don't wasting time using trap on the side, lillie should be using gleam after trapping Nate

[silver dirge]

Can your gauge afford another Fleur Cannon instead of X Speed? That's another -2

[meager agate]

negative, no room in the budget when the other two are attacking after turn 1

still waiting on good odds, right side used heat wave 5 times in a row

[manic kiln]

xspeed -> dgleam -> trap
gladion's TM -> syc's TM -> lillie's dgleam
fleur cannon -> moonblast -> dgleam
syc sync
after that just spam 3 fairy moves till they're at -6 or to finish your sync cycle then use bmove before they sync

[meager agate]

brb gonna go jump off a bridge

in minecraft

[manic kiln]

[meager agate]

any use of special moves is run over because round 2 clause so there's a lot of immediate resets happening + right side is addicted to using heat wave

[manic kiln]

pick the stat drop

[meager agate]

just a bad night for me, earlier tonight i had a 12 streak where ny lisia's tm didn't MPR

for drasna fight

[old orchid]

only 12? rookie number

[meager agate]

bout a year and a half ago i had a situation where ss blue's force field 4 didn't proc 12(ish) times in a row too, and that's supposed to be a coinflip chance

[old orchid]

this run of mine took me 3 hours of playing to get the win with a lot of rng involved

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[silver dirge]

Do you have 5 stats down picked up?

Impervious on Sycamore & Gladion reflects it on center

[old orchid]

oh yeah good tech

[meager agate]

no need to bother, i'm already at a 1% situation

just need good odds

[silver dirge]

Sure but this is a free param

You get SpA & SpDef drops

[meager agate]

it doesn't decrease the amount of rng unfortunately, doing so doesn't cause the turn order to change, or the reset conditions to change..

still waiting on good odds again btw

[old orchid]

you can replace str/atk 1 param with that one, for less change for Sycamore to faint

Arch's solution is brilliant

[manic kiln]

def can reduce rng in some way, I can still clear if they use sp atk buff but there's a run when gladion missed 3 fleur cannon

[meager agate]

still a dice roll

and right side using heat wave is a run ender that is not affected by that change

which is still happening at an abnormal rate

[silver dirge]

I mean up to you I just really don't understand why you wouldn't pick it up at 0 detriment

[left storm]

You considered using impervious syca + team stat down ↓ 3 to alleviate some atk and neuter good form?

Since you're using Gladion anyway

That'll give you some spa drops early too

[silver dirge]

That's what we're talking about yeah

[left storm]

Replacing atk 1 is never a good idea

[meager agate]

ok straight up did not see this part lmao

didnt consider gladion reflect

thought the whole thing was pointless lmao

gta6 is gonna come out before this salamence chooses to cooperate

k cool got it

it's amazing how i feel very little accomplishment from this

i did fairy only mostly out of spite lmao

[manic kiln]

still a cool challenge to do mono clear tho

just to see your roster grow

[meager agate]

i really should be EXing my rock units tbh LOL

i've been neglecting that type hard recently

lodge steven is slept on fr

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[toxic cobalt]

Just had a thought

[left storm]

Speaking of Nate, made me realize there's basically no good poison support in the game

Couldn't even do 3500 with janine

[meager agate]

crobat's great wym :)

"couldn't even do 3500" whoops sorry forgot my standards didnt exist lol

[left storm]

Not much for CS tbfh

Her dodges are very unlikely to happen and no Def buffs kinda sucks

If she had endure she'd be much better

[meager agate]

nah i meant my bar for viability ends at the max point limit lmao, that’s why i said my standards don’t exist

[left storm]

Your standards are the norm

I just find her to not get much worse between 3k and 3.3/4

She gets melted so easily as soon as you give stages 6 str and some atk

[toxic cobalt]

And yet Nate dodges every second move with +2

[left storm]

Ofc

[old orchid]

Me practicing for the hypothetical Battle Factory game during the upcoming server event

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[keen silo]

good lord nate is just unbelievably unviable to offtype

got to the point where nothing other than the 3 pikachus would work

[silver dirge]

if it works it works

[keen silo]

could've used ss wally but i was planning to offtype nate from the start since I don't have penny and already using SS wally in stage 3

[keen silo]

Yeah I'm glad they pulled though

[manic kiln]

offtype using mono team for fun fire, water, grass, psychic, ice can easily off type if you have 1-2 key units, just like the rats team

[left storm]

Poison too

SC Steven also makes him muuuuuuuuuch easier

[civic crater]

This is NOT my video and I’m not sure if this is even something we’re allowed to post, but this person had some super cool Special Pasio Stadium clears and I wanted to give them some attention.

https://youtu.be/op8l23YVIgA?si=InslwZ5lZTud45wc

[rich needle]

Wut makes it cool

[civic crater]

Idk I thought the comps were pretty neat. Most weren’t relying on a typical fairy

[manic kiln]

They still use fairy moves so it’s still ontype, most of the runs were carried by good utility units tho

[sweet ivy]

does round 3 not count sun as a field effect?

[old orchid]

If you are fighting against Grimsley, there is currently a bug that the perma field param doesnt work on his round

[sweet ivy]

i see

thanks

[main crow]

NCheren CS is electric weak yeah?

[old orchid]

Looks like its Electric yeah

[sick inlet]

Rats galore

Rat for every stage

My theme will be only rat pokemon allowed

How many rats do I own 😂

[undone ether]

the only one i remember is Siebold who does -spd aoe down whenever he attacks.

[sick inlet]

Lets see
Redchu
Ashchu
MCChu x2
SurgeChu
PikaboyChu
LetsgoChu
HauChu
Nemona
Marnie
Sophicles
Any more rats?

[undone ether]

eggmons?

[sick inlet]

I don't have classic Elessa

Already counted MC pikachu eggmon in the MCx2

Each of Ash and Red can Solo
That leaves like 9 Pokemons for 3 teams
Yikes

Doable. I'll do it.

[undone ether]

Hrm. Phoebe has Healthy Advantage 4
Siebold has Defense related Offenses, Healthy Advantage 4, Slo-mo 9.
aaron is Sentry Entryx2, SP.ATK + Speed stacker.
Acerola ... nothing too dangerous.

depends on NC Cheren's gimmicks

Siebold is definitely getting SST Red lol.

aaron is likely going to get SS Hilbert kek

[swift swan]

If anything the champion is usually the most difficult so save your best electrics for him

I wonder if i can fully monotype electric CS

[undone ether]

my usual team for Siebold (Electric) is SST Red + Holiday Whitney

ew.

seems to be Zapdos area 😐

[swift swan]

Hostile environment heat wave lmfao

Assuming you're not dead by the heat wave

[undone ether]

Rebuff required so yeah zapdos gaming.

[swift swan]

25k is surprisingly not so bad

Not even high offenses

[undone ether]

the sides are 9k hp

so doable.

[swift swan]

The fairy-weak nc nate was worse

[undone ether]

oh most definitely.

well the sides dont need the rebuff

what the heck is Blackwind Storm though?

uhhh.

so basically, gotta run Impervious Zapdos too.

[swift swan]

That one is bmove effect

Regular blackwind storm could be different

[undone ether]

hrm

The sides hve Sentry Entryx2

their normal move is 30% chance to drop SPD down

i'm checking if for some reason, his stage starts raining for some reason.

[swift swan]

Sides barely matter

[main crow]

hmm
Hau or BP Soph
LodgeVolkner
Elesa
NY Volkner
SS Piers

i think im interested in running duo for this CS

[undone ether]

i think i'll do Ash with NC Blue

the only other one that's nasty is Siebol

the rest, not so much.

[vast dome]

Heck it

NC Leaf vs Nate

[vast dome]

Disregard my Eusine. I got 14 fairy pairs

Due to a lack of Penny, I'll be off-typing Nate with NC Leaf

[old orchid]

as long as you got someone to counter Nate's gimmicks, you are fine

[vast dome]

His gimmicks are

[old orchid]

Good Form and the negative status change demand

so you want to debuff/haze his stats and bring a status change user

[vast dome]

Is NC Leaf usable

Should be, she has a rebuff

[nocturne pawn]

nc leaf shits on nate fight

[vast dome]

use her?

[keen silo]

Katherine is an insanely underrated sync nuke

Or at least I just found it out in this CS

Other than nate this was a good experience to utilize my fairy rosters and make certain sync pairs work for 3k

[vast dome]

use her

[dark osprey]

Could surely try.

No harm in that

[lunar meadow]

Anyone without EX is hard to take note of these days

I found Asumarill was an amazing tank in the HSE

[grand harbor]

Why cant i clear any stage in the pasio stadium 😂

I got 15k on the CS Mm

[mellow linden]

Sounds like a team or parameter issue

All the stages except Nate are copy-pasted from the various CS regions, so you’ve likely encountered one or more of them before from a regular CS run

[grand harbor]

Idk hala is dealing alot of dmg

Giving me hard time

[north crown]

What team are you running atm?

LOL no wonder you're struggling

[grand harbor]

This is the team and parameters

[north crown]

dego13 Roster
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009564564821639379/1239606548422987796/SyncPairsTracker-1.png?ex=6658a10f&is=66574f8f&hm=026bbc37f674e6b5fc260a6a2dbd2d8adbb02bbc181d2bfbf1be318e54b4f8ab&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[grand harbor]

I am saving my fairy squad for the final

[north crown]

I doubt Bellelba buffs def quick enough to not get KOed.. NVM that, WHY IS MAX HP +8 ON!??!?!

[grand harbor]

From the presets for normal CS 😅

[north crown]

bro what the hell

[grand harbor]

2500 runs off type

I want to do a 3k run 😅

Help me set it up please

[north crown]

you're basically made the stage set on nightmare mode 💀

first of all, no more MAX HP NODES

[grand harbor]

👌

[north crown]

actually, there ain't much you can choose outside HP...

You might want to invest in Mina in this case. She seems to be the best available counter to this stage.

At the very least, Mina will allow you to build a more defensive oriented team

either that, or free up a space for some kind of disruptor or utility pair

Another alternative is to run SSMorty, SSErika, & MRed. Her DPS is insane, even offtype.

sun and grassy terrain boosted solar blades be like:

[dusty blade]

can i get some help please? im doing shauntal and my team is bertha courtney and falkner

[north crown]

Isn't Courtney self sufficient? Replace Falkner.

or perhaps send a screenshot of that team in case move levels are an issue.

[dusty blade]

bertha is 2/5 courtney is 1/5 and falkner is 5/5

[north crown]

Falkner isn't really that great unless you hae extra speed/gauge to roll flinches, which doesn't seem to exist in this team.

I'd replace both Bertha and Falkner for better alternatives

[dusty blade]

my only other ground type is like naomi

should i put lyra as support?

[north crown]

She's literally better due to more accessible move level upgrades LOL

[north crown]

frail and sets sun, which is useless for this team

[dusty blade]

she helps with gauge and has light screen thou

[north crown]

light screen is only 30% dmg mitigation, wheras spdef buffs are permanent & protect more

[sharp willow]

Kali

[north crown]

or if my guesstimation is off, it's less than buffs regardless

[dusty blade]

ig il try naomi

she rly sucks tho

are my parameters ok?

[north crown]

Did you even try gridding her?

[dusty blade]

ye

[north crown]

first option you picked is already a mistake

[dusty blade]

which one

[north crown]

as for why,

[north crown]

sync move countdown -1

[dusty blade]

i didnt pick that

[north crown]

omg I hate this UI

whyt he fuck is def/spdef -5 on?

[dusty blade]

idk what else to pick

[north crown]

What round are you on?

[dusty blade]

3

[north crown]

You mind posting your roster? I feel like there's some kind of obvious answer in there.

[hushed sorrel]

When are we getting those amazing CS graphics updated in pin 🥹

[dusty blade]

idk how to i'm playing on my tab

[north crown]

also considering the fact that we have one of the most broken parameters, permanent field.

[dusty blade]

but i dont have any better ground pairs

[north crown]

You know how to screenshot?

[dusty blade]

ye but my tab doesnt have discord

[north crown]

Can it access Safari/Chrome, or any website browser?