Champion Stadium

[grand harbor]

😂

[trail smelt]

I did Malva for R4

[undone ether]

i did Siebold R4

Malva takes R3

[keen jasper]

I might do Wikstrom on R4

[manic kiln]

With premium units you can presync all of them for R4. Using f2p/genpool units Siebold > Malva, avoid the other 2

[keen jasper]

Gonna brute force with Bea

[manic kiln]

Wikstrom r4 is fun with sprint team

[keen jasper]

Nah, sprint is unnecessary

[grand harbor]

R1

But 2 muddy waters wipe out my team

What would u modify guys?

[grand harbor]

Now trying this team for sp att down

[swift swan]

grass-weak siebold hits hard, sometimes you have no choice but to reset to avoid muddy water

or you try to deny it with sleep/flinch

[old orchid]

Using Sycamore and Barry together is not a good idea, because both want to sync first

You can use OG Misty for spdef buffs

[grand harbor]

Tried her died quick 😢

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm, it might not help but Siebold has lesser Sp. Atk. debuff mitigation

[grand harbor]

So viola not useful?

[cyan escarp]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[old orchid]

The pins have your question covered

[old orchid]

Is she 4* at least? Can you grid her for X Spdef and TM MPR? assuming she is not 3/5

[grand harbor]

She is 1/5

Buf 4*

But*

[old orchid]

alright, grid her for X SpDef All at least, sadly her TM MPR is not available at 1/5

use TM once on herself, and one on Barry

you want to replace Viola with someone having sleeping or flinching move

[grand harbor]

Would misty and elio be good for sp def up?

Elio sleep and sp def

[old orchid]

Elio wants Troublemaker skill to make Sing reliable

[grand harbor]

This is his grid

[old orchid]

his grid doesn't help much

acquiring Troublemaker is more important

[grand harbor]

Lucky skills?

[formal vigil]

Troublemaker gotten from and boost accuracy of status moves like sing

[grand harbor]

He has it

Trouble maker 1

[old orchid]

great

[grand harbor]

So which lucky skill would be better for misty?

[old orchid]

she doesn't need a lucky skill for this battle specifically, but she appreciates Vigilance like most supports

[grand trout]

Congrats to us for getting through 15k at the hardest cs

[grand harbor]

I have movr candy for misty should i use it?

[old orchid]

i would use them on Skyla first

[grand harbor]

👌

Skylla is great

[grand harbor]

Oh wait the 1500 guide parameters include status condition immunity

What can i replace it with?

To be able to make him. Sleep

Replaced it with interference

[old orchid]

good point

[grand harbor]

Done

Thanks alot

[old orchid]

[grand harbor]

Since this is my best team should i save it for the final fight and phys attack boost or capitalise on fight weakness of wiki

[mellow linden]

I'd recommend splitting Riley and NC SIlver across 2 separate teams for Champion Stadium

[steel kelp]

What’s usually after kalos

[sharp willow]

looks like its traditionally been unova

[fading cradle]

i did drasna for round 1 of kalos stadium, who should i do for round 2 and what sync pairs should i bring?

[old orchid]

The pins have a list of current round params and it says who should you avoid on certain rounds. Go give it a read

About who should you use, we can't give suggestions without knowing your roster

+tracker this site is great to show your roster when you have some time to fill it out. Otherwise taking screenshots of your units at move level tab is fine

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[grand harbor]

So for drasna

Which one of those should be swapped for supp

Thinking of savibg lisia for wikis

[keen jasper]

Show your support roster

[old orchid]

Lisia won't help here. And Ghetsis doesn't make sense either

Don't focus on building monotype team. You can improve Cyrus by bringing someone to buff spatk and speed faster and/or someone to debuff spdef

[grand harbor]

Like this?

[keen jasper]

SS Elesa is... Questionable

[hard notch]

Very

[iron mist]

How does my on type Siebold 3k damage dealers look? It feels rough, but maybe I’m missing something

[swift swan]

What move level is that brendan?

I like pairing him with ss erika

Should deal with siebold just fine, but you have to avoid AOEs

[iron mist]

He’s 1/5

I tried using Brendan OR SS Erika, but haven’t tried both. I’ll try that out, thanks!

[wicked junco]

Light Screen Lyra might buy you some life time while Brendan and SSErika obliterate their team as quickly as possible

Might have to deny some turns killing sides

[swift swan]

Just remember you want both damage reductions off then

Brendan wants 2/5 for nuke at least. But it's worth a try

[wicked junco]

You could keep Sp damage reduction on and swap Brendan for Tsareena if gridded

[swift swan]

I'm sorry but light screen lyra is still frail af 😭 it can't save her, not with those stats

[wicked junco]

She will most likely use sun better

Given that Brendan is 1/5

[iron mist]

Yeah Tsareena is gridded, and if any of these pairs desperately need level cap unlocked I can wait and do that

[swift swan]

Yeah, you can try nuke Mallow with SS Erika as a side DPS. Get a physical support, flinch the muddy water or reset to avoid them

[wicked junco]

I mean, it could still work even if she doesn't survive till 2nd sync, as long as she allows Brendan and SSErika survive a move, it's fine

[swift swan]

Make sure to turn off interference immunity

[wicked junco]

I still use Lyra from time to time for 3k

[iron mist]

Here’s my other top supports if any stand out as a great option

(I am trying to reserve SSA Cynthia for Wikstrom though)

[swift swan]

From what I saw Lodge Blue should work fine. He has flinch for days too

Aaron if you want more bulk

[wicked junco]

Dawn could help Mallow set up damage lowering attack as well if you're going for the mono

[grand harbor]

So who 😅

[iron mist]

Thank you all! I’ll try out a few things and see if anything works

[swift swan]

Then no one would buff mallow's attack, she can't do it herself

[wicked junco]

Mad Strength 2? Yeah, probably best to stick with LodgeBlue

Sonia, Aaron and Hop are also fine options for ditching the mono

[grand trout]

Aaron's flinch capability is expensive though

[swift swan]

2/5 cant flinch anyway

But aaron's still good for his buffs, healing, and defenses

[wild scaffold]

Who got 15000 point in fire cs?

[grand harbor]

Conquered CS this week

Starting to get a hang of team creation a little bit 😅

Thanks fornur guidance all

[peak stirrup]

Are we supposed to use physical vs r4 drasna?

[mellow linden]

If anything physical damage-dealers are slightly less desirable against Dragon weak Drasna due to Terrify 2, but the round parameter has nothing to do with it

[peak stirrup]

I dunno, my Lucas/SS Elesa/3Serena isn’t having the success I had hoped

[mellow linden]

What specifically is going wrong?

[misty yacht]

hello guys, I´m wondering if there is any chance I can complete the champion stadium.

This is my team

Everyone's grid is 0 except for mewtwo, xerneas and zamazenta

[fading cradle]

what should i bring in for malva 💀 water weak malva isn’t my greatest strength, and im not sure of an ideal water type striker for her

[eternal lodge]

swampert or palkia with rain setter should be enough

[mellow linden]

Can almost certainly do Hard Mode

[mellow linden]

Fortunately Water is an extremely stacked type, if you have May you’re basically set (and even if you don’t Winona can set Rain too)

[peak stirrup]

Drasna should either be super bulky or hit super hard, not both

[nocturne pawn]

param issue

shes not really that threatening on either side unless you majorly fuck up parameters

her types are fairly easy to cover too besides fairy (but even now we have bp valerie)

[peak stirrup]

My parameters are the pinned ones. She eats sync, 2 core enforcers and 2 roar of time all under zone and it’s nothing, and her sync team wipes me

[nocturne pawn]

are you sure you dont have special damage reduction 8 turned on

she shouldnt be surviving that if you’re using presets

[peak stirrup]

100% it’s not. I have separate for physical and special

[nocturne pawn]

well idk what to tell you. check if you have too much defense or hp with strength cuz its really hard trying to guess what the issue is without actually seeing them

[peak stirrup]

I do have a lot of strength but 0 def 0 hp

[nocturne pawn]

dunno what to say

[rich needle]

This is dragon week?

[undone ether]

Drasna

[rich needle]

Hm

[undone ether]

Needs to debuff sp def her otherwise she hits hard

[undone ether]

What team though? Dialga and ss serena?

[peak stirrup]

Lucas/SS Elesa/Zerena

Zerena 3/5 EX

[undone ether]

Did drasna sync with dragon zone up?

[rich needle]

There no way that no do damage

3/5 zerena is so much damage

How low do it actually get

Also you can probably sync with zerena twice

[undone ether]

That was her sync. After her and zapdos

Didnt crit ;-;

Full HP and Full Level

[rich needle]

No zone either

Just a dawn doin her best

Also u have +2 crit

[undone ether]

Forgot to press zerena's or nc blue's tm but yeah

Zerena sync nc blue sync and zerena sync

[old orchid]

Can you send your params and your strat? Like who synced first and second and did you sync twice before Drasna

[peak stirrup]

Only beat it cuz got stupid RNG and got 3 MPR on breathtaking

[latent eagle]

This team should work but it’s nooooot

[undone ether]

A clear is still a clear though. Nice.

[wild scaffold]

Use Ho-Oh

[latent eagle]

I am??? Unless you mean silver who was already used

[wild scaffold]

Yes sorry, I should had specify

Oh, okay

SSRed is strong. I would replace N

at 3/5 Red, get the Sun buff sync and Haymaker

On N place, someone that can buff Red atk for Haymaker and nuke dmg

[latent eagle]

This is the furthest I’ve gotten

[wild scaffold]

3k run?

[latent eagle]

Yep

[wild scaffold]

it seem NCRed has special shield?

[latent eagle]

I swear to god if torchic doesn't refresh attack....ughhhhhh

[wild scaffold]

try to get Red special to maximun too.

I would sync with Ho-oh first for double sync stat and then with Red

Is your Red caked?

[latent eagle]

No

[mellow linden]

That’s irrelevant, Light Screen is ignored by crits

[mellow linden]

Try Hop instead of Torchic

[wild scaffold]

Didnt knew it bypassed it

[mellow linden]

More team survivability, you don’t need to run monotype teams

Would also give Adrenaline if you have his EX so you can Support EX Sync

[latent eagle]

Hop has been used

[mellow linden]

Any other Attack + crit Supports?

Or I guess just Attack if SS Red has Sharp Entry gridded

[latent eagle]

Uhh maybe? Hop n torchic are the only ones I know off the top of my head and I'm attempting another battle so can't check atm

[mellow linden]

Aaron, Sonia, Hilbert, Shauna, off the top of my head

If your SS Morty or one of those options is EXd then do Support Sync 1st

[latent eagle]

WHY CANT YOU JUST SURVIVE SYNC 😭😭😭😭

[mellow linden]

I’m certain SS Red can pre-Sync, try EX Support Sync for your 1st Sync

[latent eagle]

I did 🥲

[mellow linden]

What’s your SS Red’s grid?

And what parameters are you running?

[latent eagle]

Gonna try switching torchic for Sonia to see if that does anything

[undone ether]

Any flinchers?

like SS Lyra or something similar?

[latent eagle]

Will obviously be changing state condition and interference immunity around when my Sonia run attempt

[latent eagle]

Switching out torchic for Sonia to see if that does anything

[wild scaffold]

I would toggle off the Hp 4

[manic kiln]

hp 2 and hp 4 just pick the ally healing down and gradual healing

[wild scaffold]

and select ally healing down and stat reduction since you wont be lowering stat

[old orchid]

Gradual healing is usually a free param

Your dmg dealers should outdamage the amount of HP the opponents heal

[wild scaffold]

you can trade gradual healing for HP2 and Special Dmg Reduction

[latent eagle]

HAHA SONIA FOR THE WIN W/ DEF DROP

[old orchid]

If they don't, that means the dmg dealer is too weak or params isshe

[old orchid]

Def drops don't help here

[wild scaffold]

Sonia lowers physical def, doesnt it?

[old orchid]

It's the atk buffs that matter

Yes

Not spdef

[wild scaffold]

yeah

Congrats!

[latent eagle]

Ah well it doesn’t matter lol, pretty sure I forgot to switch status and interference immunity around as well 😂 so no flinching was done either

[wild scaffold]

SSRed is a monster, even with HP6 you were dealing big damage, and down to 12%

And thats not even Red at full power now with tech cake

[wild scaffold]

You beat this with HP6?

[latent eagle]

I used the same parameter I shared just switched torchic for sonia

[old orchid]

Keep it in mind, that if you are struggling to beat someone pre sync, stop adding bulk so you can clear faster

[wild scaffold]

damn SSRed is still a monster

and yours is 3/5 uncaked and lv.140

[latent eagle]

True but I was originally following a video as that's not my regular parameter I use, even tried that w/ no winning

[old orchid]

I don't think it's a good set of parameter

Given how some free params are not picked

[fading cradle]

huh who’s a good support to have battling malva with may

i tried elio and he isn’t really working out

[wild scaffold]

MasterMode?

May... she needs like spatk buff

[old orchid]

An offensive support to buff May and another dmg dealer is a common core for her

Elio has a busy kit, and he is not an ideal partner for May either

Common picks like Sabrina and Elesa die to 1 or 2 Dark Pulse, so we want to see your support roster

[wild scaffold]

Roxxane is good with spatk buff grid

[fading cradle]

nah hard mode

[wild scaffold]

So normal mode?

[fading cradle]

yep

here are my support rosters (i can’t use vfalkner)

[old orchid]

No crit buffing and being frail really holds her back

Melony is pretty good

[fading cradle]

got it, and who would be a good striker? i have new years wallace tentatively

[sonic blaze]

any advice against koga for fire stadium?

did r1 glacia, and that's it

[old orchid]

oh you are against hard mode, so you can bring a filler that covers one of your missing types

[old orchid]

try to beat him before the crit shield, that's it

that's already a good team, you should reduce Koga's bulk and add more offensive to him

[sonic blaze]

unsure of what to try, he keeps buffing himself like a madman so can't really burst him at 3k and using x speeds and stuff when i try stalling his sync... not sure what to try

tried offtyping with my dark sleep/flinch team but no luck either

those defensive/evasion buffs are nasty

[old orchid]

that's normal, he only uses items when falling asleep

time the sleep wisely so you can keep all of them not moving

[sonic blaze]

is koga one of the tougher ones? i did glacia r1... but not sure if to leave him for r4 for bonus s.atk

but with his bulk buffs i am struggling to kill him before sync

[old orchid]

R4 won't help SS Hilda much, because V-Create is still stronger

you can try nuking with Serena

[fading cradle]

what should i bring for wikstrom?

[old orchid]

Please provide your available roster when asking for suggestions. We need context to give accurate advices

[keen jasper]

If you want to know his gimmick, then his main gimmick is preemptive steel zone

[fading cradle]

yeah, saw that, that’s probably how he ko’ed my team pretty quickly

[keen jasper]

BTW, BP Falkner is a good counter for this week's Diantha right?

[silver dirge]

If you really need to remove Crit Shield then yes, defog helps with that. Otherwise not really, just kill her before that

[keen jasper]

I mean, Falkner also has Overwhelm

[silver dirge]

Strange aspect to focus on for a pre-sync clear, she has no attack related passives, no boosted offenses. Her only strong move including sides is Close Combat

[wicked junco]

Might as well use Darach for that, faster debuffs and Defog as well

[keen jasper]

Well, I'm going to use a special-oriented team against her even if she has Discourage

Ethan doing DPS while Falkner does nuke and NC Blue is my tank and support

[wicked junco]

Why would you care for Atk debuffs having NCBlue then?

[keen jasper]

Double Overwhelm might be redundant, but I'm just gonna be sure that Diantha doesn't immediately kill Blue

Even with Initial Guard

[silver dirge]

All you need to do is avoid Close Combat

[wicked junco]

No one should be able to inmediatly kill NCBlue, what params are you running?

[keen jasper]

4k

Tho replacing +5 offensive buffs for crit shield

And I'm also gonna have half HP on my team as well

[wicked junco]

I mean that's just a click for NCBlue

Or do you also run lowered healing?

[keen jasper]

Oh definitely

I always run half healing

[fading cradle]

yeahhh i don’t think this is working out on my end, are any of my sync pairs able to disable the steel field wikstrom sets up?

[keen jasper]

Defog it

[fading cradle]

alright got it, who should be my support roster? tried using hop and he died a bit too quickly

[wicked junco]

Hop is most likely the most resilient unit that you got there considering their levels

Any of those are gridded?

[fading cradle]

hop, lillie, rosa, and elio are

[wicked junco]

I would still try to rely on good RNG with Hop, I don't think any of those are going to endure more than him

But you could try Elio for sleep shenanigans and nullifying their moves while steel zone is up

They don't have any extension nor way to reapplying it

[keen jasper]

You can try what I said about BP Falkner

Actually NVM

[fading cradle]

got it, any idea on who i can use as a striker?

okay god dammit, school wifi chose to be ass and not send the pictures

work, dammit

sweet arceus finally

[old orchid]

You are attempting hard mode, right?

Giovanni, Zinnia and Solgaleo are not 5/5, especially Solgaleo who is a good pick for completing the medal

[wicked junco]

Solgaleo does fine for this stage, can take advantage of the first steel zone turns, then do SE damage with Focus Blast

But probably needs some leveling up

[old orchid]

Yup

[fading cradle]

yes, and leveling up moves is tedious for no reason 🥲

so if solgaleo were to take advantage of the steel zone, then i can’t bring a defogger, huh

[old orchid]

You have a lot of time to level him up

And no, that's not the reason to use Solgaleo. He has Focus Blast and registers Steel theme unless the medal already has it filled

[fading cradle]

yeahhhh steel theme was filled already, im more focused on beating wikstrom

[wicked junco]

Wally can do fine here then

[old orchid]

Can you show your medal progress?

[fading cradle]

i don’t know if the picture will send so here:

im missing normal, bug, psychic, fighting, dark, and ground pieces

[old orchid]

And Wikstrom is the second round, is that right?

[fading cradle]

3rd 🤥

[old orchid]

I don't think you can comfortably force all 6 remaining types into the last 2 rounds. You have to unlock Master mode by next week

I don't see Misty or Skyla in your roster

Wait nvm

For Wikstrom, try using Leaf, Sabrina and Wally. You have to stall the zone for a bit. Or replace Leaf with Nanu for flinching to buy some turns

[fading cradle]

yeah honestly it isn’t my main priority rn since i only beat cs two times so im still trying to get comfortable with it

[rich needle]

Leaf flicnhes

[old orchid]

That's a good way to get used to the mode. Next week is the final week of Kalos CS and we will move to another region after that

For each region you have to fill in the medal once. After unlocking Kalos' medal you don't have to fill the types in again when it comes back

[old orchid]

30% vs 60% chance and both fill the missing types anyway

[wicked junco]

Not gridded anyways

[fading cradle]

earthquake is killing my team way too quickly 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[old orchid]

Reset when that happens, at least during Steel Zone being up

[grand trout]

I thought this is the final week

[silk rain]

What are the gimmicks for kalos

It kinda just feels like they click big damage buttons

Can barely get like 3 turns in on tanks before they get nuked

[silver dirge]

Each stage has its own gimmick, there's a link to the CS page on PoMatools in the pins where you can see each one

[silk rain]

Ok

[silver dirge]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium

[fading cradle]

okay yeah this isn’t working out, everyone is dying too quickly and i reset plenty of times already

[silk rain]

So siebold is actually just I hit hard

It feels like I have like infinite phys supports and like zero spe support

Is there a special version of growl?

[silver dirge]

To debuff SpA you mean? Snarl

[keen jasper]

In terms of status, none. If it's any move, then Snarl or Struggle Bug

[silver dirge]

But you can use the bot in #bot-zone to search for everyone who can debuff SpA

[silk rain]

Ok

[silver dirge]

There's a lot of different ways through passives etc that you can debuff SpA

Also consider a SpDef buffing support

[silk rain]

Yea I have lucian Lenora

Oh buffing

Yea a special version of hop would be really nice

Gastly and ss elesa kinda do that but slower and not as tanky

[cinder summit]

Conditions:

1: 3* Min Rarity | Permanent Pairs (General Pool/Story/BP) | All allies Special Defense Up‎

------------------------------

Aaron & Vespiquen
‎　⤷Defend Order
‎　⤷Team Full-Bracing Infliction 1
Adaman & Vaporeon
‎　⤷A Sight to See!
Bertha & Hippowdon
‎　⤷Quite Something!
Clemont & Magneton
‎　⤷Eureka!
Courtney & Camerupt
‎　⤷Team Wise Entry 1
Cynthia & Gastrodon
‎　⤷Don’t Worry!
Dana & Regice
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All: Barricade Buddies 1
Dawn & Wormadam
‎　⤷Big Stretch!
Drake & Salamence
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All
Elesa & Joltik
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All
Elio & Primarina
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All
Evelyn & Entei
‎　⤷Protect Us All!

‎

Glacia & Glalie
‎　⤷Attention Here!: Barricade 1
Gladion & Golbat
‎　⤷I’ll Protect You!
Jasmine & Magnemite
‎　⤷Team Full-Bracing Infliction 1
Leaf & Clefable
‎　⤷Hit ’Em with Love!: Full-Bracing Command 9
Leaf & Eevee
‎　⤷Endless Possibilities Extreme Evoboost
‎　⤷Let’s Go!: Barricade Buddies 1
Lenora & Watchog
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All
Liza & Lunatone
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All
Lyra & Meganium
‎　⤷Light Screen: Force Field 4
Marlon & Carracosta
‎　⤷X Defense All: Barricade Buddies 1
Melony & Lapras
‎　⤷I Won’t Hold Back!
‎　⤷Max Guard: MAX Barricade Buddies 2
Misty & Starmie
‎　⤷X Sp. Def All

‎

Morty & Mismagius
‎　⤷I See You!
Olivia & Carbink
‎　⤷No Introduction Needed!
‎　⤷No Introduction Needed!: Barricade 1
Player & Mesprit ( Support)
‎　⤷Light Screen: Barricade Buddies 1
Professor Sycamore & Xerneas
‎　⤷Gentlemanly Geomancy
‎　⤷Force Field 1
Roxanne & Probopass
‎　⤷Study Buddies!: Barricade Buddies 1
Shauna & Chesnaught
‎　⤷Team Dauntless Defender 9, Team Wise Entry 1
Sygna Suit Blue & Blastoise
‎　⤷Force Field 4
Sygna Suit Misty & Vaporeon
‎　⤷Go with the Flow!
Wally & Delcatty
‎　⤷Let’s Win For Sure!

[silver dirge]

Here are some of the accessible options that do that

I should've filtered by support but you get the point

[silk rain]

Ok

Yep

Is leaf eevee supposed to be a slower pair

Like buff wise

[silver dirge]

In terms of buffing or actual spe-

Ah

[silk rain]

I like using her but she feels really bad on early nuke rounds

[silver dirge]

Yeah, she uses her sync to buff so it's a lil slow

[silk rain]

Yea ok

Just double checking

[silver dirge]

Although she does have some buffs off her grid too

[keen jasper]

Yeah, mainly Critical Squad and offensive buffing on her TM

[silk rain]

Yea the + atk/spatk

[silver dirge]

I.e. Barricade Buddies on TM for SpDef

[silk rain]

Or that

Ok ty, I think I’m probably just gonna chill at 12k this week

Too many offtypes

[shut forge]

Sorry but what’s “buff”?

[sharp willow]

stat boosting, in this case

Most of Leaf's stat boosting is locked behind using her Sync Move, which gives +2 to every stat except Evasion and Critical rate

[shut forge]

Is there a guide for this tool? Don’t know how to use it

[mellow linden]

It’s just a database for the stats, moves, and passives that the opponents have. Can tap the different icons to switch between the center and either side

If a number is yellow it’s higher than the base, if it’s kinda greyish instead of white it’s lower than the base

[shut forge]

Ok but the number under “poison” etc what does it means? And also the number in the right column?

[silver dirge]

It's the level of mitigation they have to those things

[mellow linden]

99% of the time you won’t need to worry about those mitigation numbers, btw

[shut forge]

Ok sorry for my dumb questions but does it means that to mitigate that stas I need to use a stats move that decrease that stat X times as the number express there in that column?

[mellow linden]

No

Mitigation just means they’re not affected as strongly by the effect (debuff or condition)

Which is why you won’t need to worry about it like 99% of the time

[shut forge]

Still not understood but thanks for helping ❤️🙏🏻

[mellow linden]

A quick thing to illustrate (not the exact numbers since I don’t know the exact numbers, just something that demonstrates what I mean):

If -1 Sp. Atk. would be a 20% decrease without mitigation, with their mitigation it would be a 15% decrease

The exact numbers should be somewhere in #916852044692856834 pins, iirc

[silver dirge]

Like Cobalt said don't worry about these too much, it's just on their end to reduce the impact of defensive debuffs for example

As simply as I can put it, say you had your enemy at -6 defense, if they have Mitigation 5 in that column, they would take less damage than they would if they had Mitigation 3 in that column

[vocal perch]

hopefully this is the right place to ask for help so i want to try and attempt doing the champion stadium as i've just been using one roster for the majority of things i do and i kinda of feel like i'm missing out on stuff by not doing it so i'm trying to figure out what teams i can build to tackle it as i don't want to go throwing resources at anyone so i would appreciate any valuable insight if possible

thats all the sync pairs i have

[old orchid]

Do you have someone having Defog? Looks like erasing zone is a must

[fading cradle]

i have lisia and darach i believe, unless there’s other units with defog

[old orchid]

Both are good options: Darach buffs team speed and lower attack, Lisia can flinch and tank if needed when Sabrina is on low health

[misty yacht]

any tips on beating Drasna? Got the other 3 elite but I cant even kill 1 of the 3 pokemon

[keen jasper]

Do you have Lucian or any Sp. Def. debuffer?

[old orchid]

What team are you using against her?

[keen jasper]

Drasna hits harder when her Sp. Def. is raised

[misty yacht]

rayquaza clefairy starmie

[misty yacht]

ok, i didnt know that

was focusing on buff my sp def cuz she 2 shots me with aoe attacks

[keen jasper]

Lillie's Unfortuitous 9 is unreliable

Also, do you still have Cyrus? I'm guessing you used him for Malva

[old orchid]

That team is not good. No permanent crit buffs

[keen jasper]

And yeah, no crit buffs

[misty yacht]

I have him

[old orchid]

And Zinnia wants weather to activate her multipliers

[keen jasper]

Use him for Drasna

[old orchid]

Have you planned anyone on Malva? Cyrus also has strong Water dps

[keen jasper]

They said they've done the other 3 E4 except Malva

[misty yacht]

i cleared malva already

oh, no

[keen jasper]

Drasna

I mean

[misty yacht]

forget i used him

[keen jasper]

NVM

[misty yacht]

mistaked him for ghetsis

[keen jasper]

Show your dragon units

[misty yacht]

he was literally my only water dps deales

[old orchid]

Can you show us your available units?

Even 3 and 4*

[keen jasper]

No, actually show your entire roster

[misty yacht]

ok give me a moment

this is what the available

everyone is 0 grid

[keen jasper]

Who did you use?

[old orchid]

Drasna is perfect... against herself

[keen jasper]

Exactly

[old orchid]

She only needs some level up books

About teammates, bring a defensive support and someone to cure Toxic

[misty yacht]

and the tactic is to toxic her?

[keen jasper]

Yes, since Drasna has multipliers for poisoned enemies

[old orchid]

Only toxic the middle opponent, to save turns for attack

[keen jasper]

Well, she also needs someone to give her +2 Sp. Atk. and +1 crit

[misty yacht]

clefairy zamazenta?

[keen jasper]

Do you still have Lucian?

[misty yacht]

think i dont even have him

[keen jasper]

Well RIP

[misty yacht]

falkner swellow?

[keen jasper]

His defenses are frail and his Fly ruins sync dountdown

[misty yacht]

probopass?

[keen jasper]

Very low HP

[keen jasper]

Are you attempting hard or master?

[misty yacht]

hard

[keen jasper]

What types are you missing?

[misty yacht]

normal, water, electric, fighting, poison, ground, rock, ghost, dark, steel

[keen jasper]

Then, Roxanne will do assuming she's at least 5 stars

[misty yacht]

she is 3

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm, since it's hard mode, I guess 3* Roxanne is fine

Just always sync with Drasna

Although you still won't complete Drasna's buffs

[misty yacht]

roxanne drasna and who else

[keen jasper]

Have you used SSR Cynthia? Prolly not since you haven't unlocked the ghost type yet

[misty yacht]

nope

[keen jasper]

Cool, then you can use her for this fight on Drasna even if it's 2/3 chance to debuff Sp. Def.

[misty yacht]

damn, thought toxic would hit harder

[mellow linden]

Unless you’re specifically doing Poison stall you really only use Poison to set up modifiers or other passives

[keen jasper]

After using Toxic with Drasna, you immediately use Draco Meteor

Also, don't use SSR Cynthia's Ghost Wish, just use TM then spam away at Shadow Ball, maybe use a few Shadow Forces

[misty yacht]

but shouldnt I use the TM on drasna?

[keen jasper]

Oh you definitely should

Otherwise she's not gonna deal any damage

[old orchid]

Hop or BP Surge works fine as the support slot

tho Hop is more useful against the Champion battle

so Surge, SSR Cynthia and Drasna

[misty yacht]

ok i had a lot of luck and won

[keen jasper]

[misty yacht]

avoided two surfs with 1 hp dragalge

thanks guys for your help

[keen jasper]

Well, now you have Diantha left

You have Darach, but you've already used flying

[old orchid]

they don;t have to be ontype

[misty yacht]

but whats with the types

do i need to use each type to win?

[keen jasper]

You need to obtain all 18 types to unlock master mode

[misty yacht]

too early for that anyways

[mellow linden]

You can get a good amount of points on Master Mode with little to no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode, so it’s worth working towards completing it

[misty yacht]

ok, noted

now lets create a team to beat the champ

Darach must be there

mallow maybe

hop zamazenta

[keen jasper]

Darach already lowers all of the enemies' attack stat anyways

Why is Mallow there?

[misty yacht]

idk to lower more

[keen jasper]

His Feather Dance already does -2 attack to all enemies

Because of Ripple Effect 9

[misty yacht]

the special parameter i guess I should pick is the "Stat lowering effects have a greater effect" right?

[old orchid]

Darach is not good at normal attacks, because there isn't any dmg multiplier and Darach has low recoil resistance

it's better to pick a strong offtype dmg dealer and use Darach solely as an utility bot

[misty yacht]

and who could that be

plumeria?

[old orchid]

try looking into your roster and suggest us who would be

[misty yacht]

no nvm

[old orchid]

Plumeria is not, sadly

[mellow linden]

Is there a particular reason Darach was the only Flying option you mentioned?

[misty yacht]

Olivia

[mellow linden]

Even a 1/5 Blue + Pidgeot can work for Hard Mode

[misty yacht]

but I have powered up physical attacks

and she can sp atk down

[old orchid]

that works better for filling 2 other types tbh, i should have thought of that earlier

[mellow linden]

You don’t need to force your team to use the round parameter and depending on the team the -2 Sp. Atk. may not be an issue

[misty yacht]

• the stat down attacks are doubled

im missing 9 types, so i think its unobtainble

[keen jasper]

Well, I'm here recommending Darach like it's master mode, but yes, Blue can work here even with Discourage

[old orchid]

it's just -2 spatk on entry

[mellow linden]

You can just have your Support/other teammate remedy the debuff issue or run faster move gauge for the 2nd round parameter if you’re worried about debuffs

[keen jasper]

The fight is more in tuned for Darach due to Feather Dance and Diantha having lesser attack debuff mitigation

And also physical damage is increased parameter along with the debuff is more effective round parameter option

[misty yacht]

masked royal incineroar?

[keen jasper]

That can work

[mellow linden]

Something I should clarify

[misty yacht]

or nessa croconaw

[mellow linden]

Since I realize it may not have been realized

[mellow linden]

The more potent debuff round parameter does not affect the number of ranks you’re debuffed, it affects how potent those debuff ranks are

[misty yacht]

oh

[mellow linden]

And since it’s just -2 on entry Diantha’s debuffs aren’t really a problem at all

[keen jasper]

Well, even if it's hard mode only, the fight for Diantha this week just screams Darach

[mellow linden]

It’s also Hard Mode, I wouldn’t worry about who the fight was originally designed for

[keen jasper]

Yeah, I guess

[mellow linden]

Regardless, just make sure the team is competent and you should be alright

[keen jasper]

Also, a question I have of my own that's for a different region:
Is EX H. Viola like the only actual direct counter to bug-weak Sidney as opposed to someone like SC Ingo who needs to use a turn to use Bug Wish and will ruin queueing if Sidney survives the nuke?

[mellow linden]

I suppose? But tbh if you’re running Bug Zone against Bug weak Sidney I’d be surprised if he survives any competent Sync nuke

[vocal perch]

so SS Lysandre for Malava
SS Red for Siebold?
i think i can brute force with Lunala on Drasna and Victini for Wikstrom then use Liza Summer for Diantha?

[rotund maple]

ooof, another half sync one? any suggestions who to battle on halfsync? had the worst experience with siebold for it last week

[swift swan]

it depends on whichever one of your team can confidently presync, even under half sync conditions

or whichever team you're comfortable can take the sync

[north crown]

Time to migrate here

[sick inlet]

I haven't even looked at my CS or Rally Because of the final LG sprint

[hushed sorrel]

What would be my best dragon duo

[sullen geode]

What should I do to improve my ghost CS team?
Struggling to do 15k with my current team

[old orchid]

Is there any reason you want to use Anni Lillie or Allister?

[sullen geode]

They're the best I have rn

I think

[keen jasper]

Do you have Event Victor?

[sullen geode]

Spectrier?

[keen jasper]

Yes

[sullen geode]

Yeah

[keen jasper]

Then I might replace Allister for him

[sullen geode]

Tune him up and replace Allister with him?

Aight

Thanks

Just give him CS2/SE3

?

[keen jasper]

CS2

[manic kiln]

Unova next month but with the release of the new units we’re 1 step closer to paldea CS it’s definitely coming very soon

[grand trout]

Do we have info on the special cs yet

[old orchid]

Lost is working on it, may take a while

I don't know if absol included the Nate fight in the Quest pastebin

[loud stratus]

Fairy CS is gonna be a bit tough. I have 3 damage dealers in ssglad, diantha, and lodge valerie. Maybe if i squint really hard i can add sycamore and ss wally.

[vocal perch]

So I managed to take 3 of the elite four and I only have Wikstorm left but I just don't have anyone left that can deal enough damage, I just feel like I'm wasting resources by trying out different pairs

Ideally I want to keep Snorlax and Red Diantha

[fading cradle]

still stuck on wikstrom sigh

how should i order this

[mellow linden]

Bea + appropriate Support + Fighting Zone setter (or Defog user if no Fighting Zone) if you have them, Defense debuffer or someone to further boost the team’s survivability if you don’t

[mellow linden]

Current Tactics order is about as good as it’s gonna get, if Sabrina ends up being too squishy you could take a gamble on Lisia tanking since it’s Hard Mode

[fading cradle]

hm, wikstrom uses special moves a lot for me, lisia’s tm only boosts her defense. everyone is still dying in like 2 hits

[mellow linden]

Do you have Riley, perchance?

[fading cradle]

indeed

[mellow linden]

He’d be better than Wally and it lets you adjust your Support to someone like Aaron who can buff both defenses

[fading cradle]

so replace wally with riley and someone else with aaron?

[mellow linden]

Worth trying to see how it goes, yeah. Doesn’t have to be Aaron, btw, as long as they can give at least +1 crit

And buff defenses

[fading cradle]

it worked with all 3 sync pairs not fainting, thanks!

alright, moving on to siebold, what type of sync pairs would be ideal to bring in? picturing all my grass rosters

[mellow linden]

SS Erika is an easy choice to build a team around on Hard Mode

[fading cradle]

alright, got it, whose best paired with her? siebold is the last e4 member i need to defeat

[shut forge]

I cleared siebold with Rosso Venusaur in the team, but without Giga Frenzy Plant move i think i couldnt

[mellow linden]

Teammates who can provide Attack, crit, and Speed buffs are helpful

[shut forge]

which units has the Fighting Zone?

[mellow linden]

SSA Cynthia and NC Hop

[fading cradle]

hm, not sure who to put with her, i tentatively tried her, ss hilda, and rosa and almost had it but his sync move does a lot of damage

[trail smelt]

Do we know what the next region CS is?

[fading cradle]

unova

[mellow linden]

This is Round 4, right?

[fading cradle]

yep

[mellow linden]

Run a team entirely focused on boosting SS Erika, get Sun set up and get her to +6 Attack and +3 crit by your 1st Sync, Sync with SS Erika. If you can grid her with Inertia get her Speed stat as high as possible too by 1st Sync

[fading cradle]

i can get inertia if i lvl up erika’s moves one more time but i only have one tech move candy, wondering if it’s worth it?

[mellow linden]

Don’t

Don’t candy gen pool pairs

She’s totally fine at 2/5

[vocal perch]

Yeah I've been trying with Bea / Hop Zam / Sabrina and I can kill Wikstorm with Bea in the end but there isn't enough move gauge for finishing off the other team

[mellow linden]

Bring a gauge Support instead of Sabrina then

And don’t touch Behemoth Bash on Hop unless he has a Free Move effect

[vocal perch]

Tried using Leaf with Eevee but that doesn't seem to work out

Yeah I haven't touched Behemoth Bash I've just been using Hop to tank any steel moves and just heal other pairs

[mellow linden]

Speed buffs or Move Gauge Acceleration is far better than just a gauge refill

Gauge refill basically requires perfect prediction and execution, Speed buffs and MGA are just passive boosts

[fading cradle]

yeah i fr don’t know who to put with her, tried hop and sonia and his sync move keeps knocking us out

[mellow linden]

Who’re you running as the 3rd teammate, how close to 0 is the center opponent by the time he Syncs, and are you able to quadqueue?

[fading cradle]

siebold’s health is at minimum in the 70s once he syncs if i do decent damage to him, most i can que is triple que, i also tried ss erika with ss hilda and sonia instead, the side teammates get knocked out and siebold is almost down but his muddy water kills us (even when i literally have sunny day up)

[mellow linden]

Are you targeting the center opponent first and are you making sure to Sync with SS Erika?

[fading cradle]

yep, all that

[vocal perch]

You got any recommendations or? I don't really know any speed buffs that I have exactly like that's everyone I have left after doing the three previous ones

[mellow linden]

Fill out the rest of your roster, you’re missing a lot of the story freebies

Skyla at minimum is an excellent Speed buffer

[mellow linden]

Can you show your full roster? You may need to just off-type entirely

[vocal perch]

I've used Skyla

[mellow linden]

Still, fill out the rest of the roster for future reference

Marley’s a Speed buffer as well

[mellow linden]

Also make sure Move Levels are accurate for everyone, your Legendary Adventures pairs get 5/5 for free

[vocal perch]

That is the full roster I'm not missing anyone outside of Ghetsis, yeah all the levels are accurate at the moment

Like the full list that I've had but I just removed the ones I used from above

[mellow linden]

Go 5/5 20/20 your Legendary Adventures pairs then

+legexchange for reference

[frozen depot]

When completing a Legendary Adventure in the Main Story section, you will be awarded a sync pair, 4 vouchers and 20 power-ups (usable on that pair only)

• Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
• DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
  https://i.imgur.com/gGHPQjd.png
  For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[fading cradle]

fun, pictures aren’t sending

[vocal perch]

Thank you for the advise, I'll do that then

[fading cradle]

apologies for butting in, but where do u get this roster thing again? someone sent it to me but i lost it

[mellow linden]

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[fading cradle]

thanks 🙏

[fading cradle]

also can’t use riley, aaron, and lisia now

[mellow linden]

So first off, don’t worry about levels past 120 for now

Just focus on getting whatever Sync Pairs you’re using to level 120

Actually SS Erika being very underleveled might have a lot to do with the problem

[fading cradle]

i actually did lvl her up before the fight, the screenshots are just a bit old

she’s past lvl 125 rn

[mellow linden]

Ah

[vocal perch]

Pretty sure May is Hoenn

[mellow linden]

Could give SS Hilda + Gordie + Support or SS Steven + Bianca + Support a try

Wdym what region?

[keen jasper]

It's Unova

[mellow linden]

Oh, the month

Not the trainer

Yeah, Unova is next

[vocal perch]

I've leveled up all my legendary pairs now, except Ghetsis

I don't know what I did with the vouchers but I pretty much mucked them up during his event that was going on I think

[mellow linden]

Ghetsis’ 5/5 and 20/20 isn’t tied to an event

[vocal perch]

Well then no idea what I did with the custom vouchers then

[mellow linden]

If you can’t get his extra copies for Move Level then you just didn’t do all of his Legendary Adventures. If you can’t 20/20 him then either you didn’t do all of his Legendary Adventures or you accidentally traded his custom powerups for regular powerups

[vocal perch]

Ah I just remembered I rushed to get Ghetsis last night so just did the legendary adventure up until I got him didn't do the battles after

All good

Yep got all the legendary pairs 5/5

[fading cradle]

literally nothing is working 😭 his sync does too much damage, and then muddy water follows and it can hit everyone on my team and wipe them out instantly

oh siebold, when i catch you siebold, when i catch you…

[vocal perch]

@mellow linden using hop at 5/5 with a proper grid worked out with me in the end using Bea and Sabrina thank you for the advise once again

Flash Cannon did quarter instead of half so it was much easier to deal with

[mellow linden]

Hopefully this has taught the importance of planning half-Sync rounds before doing anything else, at least

Could try Sycamore as the Support and Sync 1st with him, maybe?

The +6 Sp. Def. might make a difference

[fading cradle]

i could try, also what form of steven should i utilize? attack form dies too quickly but defense form doesn’t do enough damage

[mellow linden]

You'd be using Attack Forme, if you're using anything else then you should try Gordie + SS Hilda instead

[fading cradle]

ss hilda, gordie, and sycamore worked out, thank you!

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[fast ruin]

I wanted to see if I could push my point total further if I planned better the second run this week lol
Dragon weak Drasna sucks

volo was also there he just got wrecked by the last sync

[sweet umbra]

I assume next CS is Unova, considering it's the last one without a 15k run, or am I wrong?

[old orchid]

Yes it is

[lunar meadow]

Do we have next months infographics yet? I don't see them pinned

[old orchid]

if you don't see them, that means Lost hasn't uploaded them yet

[lunar meadow]

I want to know when the next ground week is, for Clodsire testing

Heck, even pomatools isn't updated with grids yet

[main crow]

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Next week we get ground

[lunar meadow]

Thanks!

I hope I get clod in the first 3 multis then lol

[undone ether]

Fire, FFlying, Rock and Ground aand Ghost at the end of the month

[shadow path]

Oh right, is the Nate stadium out yet?

[shadow path]

As in the info

[old orchid]

not yet

but you can find the stage info in absolutelypm's Quest pastebin

[shadow path]

Got it, thanks

[undone ether]

Champion Nate Battle o.o

[shadow path]

Woa thanks a lot

[undone ether]

Evasive Rush 3
ooof.

[north crown]

Fairy right? ez counter with acc all on Clefairy

[undone ether]

Rising Tide + Good Form though :/

seems like a job for Volo

[north crown]

eh.. we have a ton of debuffers fairy type debuffers alr

[old orchid]

Penny says hi

also most people just pre sync him

[undone ether]

Bruno is gonna be easy enough.
Paralysis Sidney
Drasna Dragon Zone sheningans.
Hala is gonna be easy enough.

(why does it have to be the 28k hp Drasna & Sidney?)

[shadow path]

Damn, I only have Summer Marnie and New year Lisia as my fairies.
AND THEY ARE PHYSICAL

[undone ether]

you can offtype tbh.

[old orchid]

is there something wrong? none of the stage have Sentry Entry x2

[shadow path]

Ah nvm then, I suppose it should not be a problem then

[old orchid]

also BP Valerie is a solid pick

[shadow path]

Oh lol I forgor about that

Wait isn't she physical as well

[old orchid]

yes

[undone ether]

Sidney and Drasna are gonna be itchy to deal with, hope we get decent round params kuku.

(Infinite Field Effect for Drasna kthnx)

[mellow linden]

I guess I’m gonna have to off-type some of the stages

Because I got like 3 Fairy damage-dealers

I guess 4 because Mina

[undone ether]

i'm not too sure what to do with Evasion Nate Hmm.

Penny + Pal Serena + Katherine

is probably what i'm going to do.

[mellow linden]

Oh yeah, Katherine exists

Huh, maybe I won’t have to off-type anyone

[undone ether]

then Volo for Drasna

(maybe NC Serena for offtype sheningans)

or NC Leaf lol

actually yeah, NC Leaf against Sidney

with Palentines Dawn

she sshould have enough firepower to kill Sidney heh

i thought Pal Dawn only had -ATK Down, more sync damage, but she's got NC Leaf's damage mod xD

[old orchid]

what is offtype?

also i'm a Katherine enjoyer

[mellow linden]

I can actually just barely pull off on-typing the whole thing, it seems

[old orchid]

yeah the accessible options are not really great

most of them are nukers with bad dps

[nocturne pawn]

and then theres valerie who just sucks

[old orchid]

i can make her work

[mellow linden]

Mina + Gladion for one stage, Sycamore + Katherine or Lodge Lillie for another, BP Valerie for a 3rd, NY Lisia for a 4th, Diantha for a 5th

[undone ether]

i think Mina iss gonna be nice against either Bruno or Hala

[old orchid]

i think Mina + egg Sylveon work better

i assume you don't have SS Wally or Volo

[mellow linden]

If I need to use my singular Fairy Zone (Egg Sylveon) before the Champion then that’s how it’ll have to be, but we’ll see how it goes

[nocturne pawn]

urgh

its not looking good

i do have ss hau for fairy zone but thats technically cheating

[old orchid]

you have summer Lyra, she is enough to solo

[undone ether]

oh i should EX Pal Dawn

[trail smelt]

Man

[nocturne pawn]

she was the only seasonal i had for like 5 months and im like damn she fucking sucks

[trail smelt]

Gonna be a while before SCelene gets her CSMM debut

[undone ether]

If you find a Infinite Field effect in Unova

maybe xD

[keen jasper]

This next special CS is fairy-weak?

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[old orchid]

powercreeping at its finest

[nocturne pawn]

nc nate is the champion

[undone ether]

Evasive sheningan, and Good Form + Rising Tide

[keen jasper]

They really want SS Wally for Nate

Or Katherine

[undone ether]

Katherine gaming lets go

[old orchid]

Penny in shambles

[mellow linden]

Evasion only happens after Sync, which you don’t want to let him do because Rising Tide

So evasion is basically a nonissue for the vast majority of players

[undone ether]

Agile Entry 2 is 2 EVA on entry right?

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[undone ether]

its either lillie or katherine .-.

[mellow linden]

Oh, whoops, he does have Agile Entry

I did miss that

[old orchid]

Luckily Penny also counters Nate's Acute Sense or sth like that

Wait nvm she completely counters him

Katherine with Gosmack 4 too

[nocturne pawn]

yeah im pretty sure nate was for penny

[keen jasper]

More like SS Wally

[grand trout]

With gradual healing we needn't worry about acute senses tho right?

[sharp willow]

Yeah the gradual healing parameter shuts that down

[old orchid]

That's not Acute Sense, you need a negative status change like interferences or rebuff

The name is so long that i didnt want to write it down

[grand trout]

Obtuse senses?

[sharp willow]

Oh yeah thats "negative status change"

[grand trout]

You can also use bede

I think bede can provide aoe confusion? Not sure

[old orchid]

Yes

With his max move, unless you have higher move level

[grand trout]

Something something gob

Wait that's his sp def reducing passive

[grand trout]

Well he also has

Uhhh

Psybeam

[old orchid]

10%

[lunar rose]

3/5 ny lisia haver nice

[old orchid]

Her outfit is very cute

[grand trout]

I should be good

...i hope

[old orchid]

More than enough tbh

[crimson wolf]

Has anyone beat siebold yet? There’s this perimeter where sync countdown has reduced. My team was one shot it and wiped away. How can higher up the Sp def faster? And lower the SP attack?

I use Victor and it did take down the two side. But not close enough to beat the middle

[mellow linden]

Focus on the center opponent first if you aren’t already

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode, and what point value if Master Mode?

[crimson wolf]

Master 3k

[mellow linden]

Can you show your Grass roster? Depending on what you have you may just need to do the fight on lower points or Hard Mode and reset so you can pick different fight for round 4

[crimson wolf]

Even I sync rushed it, it’s still not enough to take it down.

[mellow linden]

What team(s) have you been trying thus far?

And what parameters?

[crimson wolf]

Not sure it’s the same as before. But here

[crimson wolf]

Victor Serena and ello

[mellow linden]

You’re putting too much bulk on him, drop at minimum the Defense and Sp. Def. ^ 3

That team needs significant adjustments, Victor isn’t getting the buffs he needs fast enough on that team and unless that Serena is her Palentine’s variant or you’re trying to do mega Sleep stall she provides literally nothing to the team.

Do you have Egg Leafeon?

[crimson wolf]

No? I don’t think so?

[swift swan]

That's fine. Remove the defenses, you should see a difference in damage

Are you using terrain or weather?

If your team doesn't rely on it, consider picking up the No WTZ parameter

[nocturne pawn]

no? penny stat leeches and has consistent debuff she also more readily deals with rebuff so hes not taking halved damage

[keen jasper]

Using Penny's B Move just to get rid of the preemptive evasion buff seems like a waste IMO. Wally's Disarming Voice never misses and he has Gobsmack to get rid that pesky passive too

And he also comes with offensive debuffs on his B Move too to prevent Nate from hitting your team hard

And OFC never forget that sweet fairy rebuff to permanently disable that passive

Oh shit, I forgot Penny has Disarming Voice too

But Wally is still good for the fight

[north crown]

idk.. the Fairy CS seems a bit easier than the rest just cuz all you really have to deal with for the champ are evasion shenanigans

Half the fairy types off the top of my head have some sort of acc buffs/counter for this.

[steel kelp]

me who laughs with piercing gaze

I’m gonna offtype the whole thing cause fairy is not it

[north crown]

I'm gonna try to ontype the Ice Fairy CS, not like that'll pose much more of a challenge anyways.

[steel kelp]

I like my ice roster more than fairy

[noble plaza]

Who should I avoid for r4?

[mellow linden]

Based on the troubles multiple people have had I’d say Siebold is a strong contender to avoid for the half-Sync round, but in practice half-Sync rounds are fairly dependent on the strength of the teams you plan to use this week

[noble plaza]

I have Adaman so I should be able to handle Siebold early

[mellow linden]

Yeah, you probably have a roster better able to gun him down fast enough

[rapid zephyr]

Are there any standard debuffs to go for?

[onyx ice]

Did it with half sync round, so by using SS lyra + adaman he just wasn't able to land a single hit

Really hate muddy water spam

[mellow linden]

Wdym

Wait

This isn’t the questions channel, whoops

So I assume you mean parameters

[rapid zephyr]

yes

sorry

[mellow linden]

There’s parameter recommendations in the pins

[mellow linden]

It’s fine, the confusion was entirely on me

[onyx ice]

I guess there are some staple ones like standard damage reduction if you are going on type

[rapid zephyr]

is it the pin by Arch

[mellow linden]

That’s specifically a small writeup on doing 15k total (3k per stage), for anything below that point value it’s the 1st pinned message

[rapid zephyr]

ok thanks ill take a look into that

[onyx ice]

Personally I really like hyper offense for master mode, but you need strong units to do it

[fast ruin]

Malva is going to be the end of me I stg

[rapid zephyr]

wdym by hyper offensive sorry

like just high dmg units, glass cannons?

[nocturne pawn]

usually it means not using a tank at all

just dpsing so hard that they cant really hurt you

[swift swan]

hyper offense just means giving the enemy as few bulk as possible, and in return, they're going to have quite a lot of firepower. it makes your team very vulnerable to attacks (sometimes half HP, max sync -3 are included). the goal is to kill mid ASAP, usually on or before 1st sync

[nocturne pawn]

ehh isnt that just presync but more words

[swift swan]

presync but even more dangerous you mean

[nocturne pawn]

tbh i tend to associate hyper offense with pure offensive greed oftentimes not even running a tank

what you described just sounds like an average tuesday

[rotund maple]

Would drasna be the easiest to deal with post-sync? Would 1. Malva 2. Siebold, 3. Wikstrom and 4. Drasna be the most recommended order?

[old orchid]

Wikstrom is the easiest to deal with on post sync, because he only setup shield while the others buff their spatk

the rest doesn't matter

[rotund maple]

ah ic ic, ty

[civic crater]

How does the game decide which three pairs show up at the end of CS?

It had 2 from my champion battle and the third was a random unit I used earlier on

[old orchid]

you used 2 duplicated trainers in the last fight, didn't you?

[civic crater]

Ok so if you do that it uses center of previous?

[old orchid]

if yes, the game will pick a trainer from the 4th team

[old orchid]

i think it's random, no clue tho

[civic crater]

Interesting ok ty

And yeah I used double Skyla lol

[old orchid]

so that's the case

[civic crater]

I’d used Hilbert earlier on for something so he wasn’t available

Drasna was a lil rough with decreased sync countdown lol

Did any of yall use any fun comps this week?

[old orchid]

i did a themed run this week #1053291896778264597 message

[sharp willow]

A couple runs i quite enjoyed this week, #1158462549096939580 message and #1158462549096939580 message

Nothing too fancy but just fun characters

[undone ether]

Wikstorm... got destroyed by 2 supports .-.;

Tough Cookie Aura Cynthia xD

[rich needle]

Hoooooooooly

[undone ether]

surprisingly, NC Rosa can hit a lot with her BMove lol

[silver dirge]

Reprimanding you both for self promo smh

[old orchid]

🏃‍♂️ 💨

[sharp willow]

Is it really self promo if its relevant

[trail smelt]

Oh yeah

Definitely not gonna monotype Fairy LMAO

Ready for next week

[wicked junco]

15k monotypeable?

[old orchid]

possible, but won't be comfortable

[wicked junco]

Yeah, would need to EX Lillie and LodgeLeaf for that, I'll pray for good round conditions

[silver dirge]

Summer Lyra can solo 3 stages on her own so you just need 2 more teams

I'm legally required to inform you that this is a joke

[wicked junco]

I was about to ask you about that juicy glitch to use the same unit for 3 different teams

[silver dirge]

[faint compass]

What's a good team against the fire E4?

Can anyone help with a good sync pair team suggestion with these?

I've been playing for 3 months only. Only F2P.

[left storm]

You'll need to remove sun

So Winona is likely your best bet

[mellow linden]

Yeah, a Water damage-dealer + a Support who handles that damage-dealer’s offensive buffs + Winona for Rain is an easy Malva clear, especially since I assume this is just Hard Mode

[pearl harbor]

Hello 👋 I’ve been playing the game for a bit more than a month, and I was doing the Champion stadium in master mode. Can you guys suggest what modifiers should I activate in order to gain as many points as possible while still being able to clear? How many points should I be aiming for per run?

If needed I can send my available Sync Pairs!

[mellow linden]

If you’re new to Master Mode I’d recommend sticking with 850 points per stage (4250 total), maybe 1500 points per stage (7500 total) if you want some extra challenge.

For the specific parameters we have recommendations in the pins

[left storm]

Rewards go all the way to 15 thousands (3k per run) but the really good rewards are only until 7.5 thousands iirc

[pearl harbor]

Thank you so much!

[mellow linden]

The important rewards stop at ~4200, which is why the 850 per stage is the recommendation for players new to CSMM

[left storm]

So you can make do by having harder stages be low (500-1000 points)

And the ones you have good units for can go 1000-1500

[mellow linden]

850 points can be done with little to no difficulty increase over Hard Mode

[faint compass]

Can you suggest a team from the images I sent?

[mellow linden]

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[faint compass]

Hard

[mellow linden]

Then you can just pick your favorite Water damage-dealer and pick a Support that gives them all the buffs they need. On Hard Mode pretty much any Water damage-dealer under Rain will shred Malva

[faint compass]

Are Sygna Suit Grimsely and regular Krys any good?

[mellow linden]

Either one will do fine for Hard Mode

So one of them + a Support who handles their buff needs (you want them to reach +4 to +6 Attack and +3 crit by your 1st Sync, with no more than 2 of the damage-dealer’s turns spent on self-buffs) + someone to set Rain

[rose ermine]

I'm gonna make kalos suffer one last time

[manic kiln]

Pin is updated with the new CS

[mellow linden]

Can it really be?

A Special CS without a half-Sync round?

[cold tusk]

penny is the only one with fairy rebuff right?

[old orchid]

SS Wally too

[cold tusk]

rip i have neither

[old orchid]

you can bring someone having interference or other types of rebuff

[grand trout]

Scteven

[trail smelt]

OH YEAH

I knew detective dude will come in clutch

[keen jasper]

Weak

[rapid zephyr]

Ah ok ty

[hearty lynx]

fly team looking good

Anni Skyla with SS Ethan

[sharp plaza]

would zinnia without mray be strong enough to pre-sync drasna?

[swift swan]

Sure, she just wants heavy support

Offensive support for one, weather support for two. If you can fit both in 1 unit, even better

[sharp plaza]

oof that might be hard

[grand trout]

Who are your units?

[sharp plaza]

i'm trying to solve malva and drasna cos i can only use cyrus for one of them

[grand trout]

May can be the weather support

[sharp plaza]

i wanted to run may for malva

[swift swan]

Yeah, may on malva would be better

Then a special support who can buff zinnia + weather setter

Any weather works

[grand trout]

Thing is tho

Nov look at her roster

There's not much in the way of special supports

I see sycamore but she'll compete with zinnia for sync + zinnia needs Crit buffs

I see ss blue tho which can be useful??? I guess?

[swift swan]

I'm thinking sabrina

1/5 ss blue can't fully buff crit

Hmm, neither can a 1/5 sabrina ig

[grand trout]

She could work, albeit I'm a bit worried she's not the tankiest yknow

There's lodge blue but he's special

[swift swan]

Well there's torchic, if candies are available

[grand trout]

Physical*

[sharp plaza]

(they're not)

[swift swan]

Ah, and you missed acerola's copies, did you

[sharp plaza]

when was that?

i started at the end of march

[swift swan]

Last month iirc?

[grand trout]

There's...hop?

I guess??

[swift swan]

Hop or Lodge Blue's your best bet. Zinnia will still have to click her TM twice. Which is honestly what I'm trying to avoid

[sharp plaza]

or maybe i use cyrus? and find another water striker

[grand trout]

Also shauna with sync burst but that'll also mean she'll compete with zinnia for sync too

[sharp plaza]

yeah me too i see that drasna has some aoe moves

[grand trout]

You'll find Siebold is very good as a water nuke tbh

..at least ontype

[swift swan]

Mm. Well give Zinnia + Hop + Acerola a try. Grid acerola for astonish aggravation and try to flinch as much as possible. Zinnia still needs to click TM twice sadly

If that doesn't work, we try Cyrus

[old orchid]

Be careful of Drasna's boosted attacks because of spdef buffs on her

[sharp plaza]

lmao i'm basically rolling for no one to press hyper voice or heat wave

[sharp plaza]

okay i don't think i can do it

maybe i'll drop below 2.5k or swap to cyrus

[swift swan]

Is zinnia gridded for sync? Is weather up when she syncs?

Acerola should also get some flinches in to help with survivability

[sharp plaza]

yep to both

but after the special damage reduction is gone any aoe move one shots zinnia and flamethrower one shots hop

i koed altaria once w full hp on everyone and the side mons hit surf and heat wave which one shot zinnia

and i don't think i can flinch both before i can ko them

this is with the on type dmg preset and when i tried with the hp preset i can get altaria to 22% before she syncs

[sharp plaza]

how about 2/5 actually i just pulled another

[grand trout]

Thing is, i don't think she'll help either

Seems your main problem is tankiness and Sabrina doesn't provide enough for you to withstand drasna special attacks

[sharp plaza]

that's true

though i was hoping that not needing to tmove on zinnia could let her survive the aoe attacks at the end

[grand trout]

I mean you'll have to do it anyways

Sabrina can buff zinnias offense and crit that's true

But not at the same time

[nocturne pawn]

tbh unless your blue somehow isnt 3/5 i dont see a reason to use zinnia

[grand trout]

And it isn't

It's only 1/5

Ss blue that is

[nocturne pawn]

zinnia has +4 from tm its mainly crit support she needs

[grand trout]

Tbf, zinnia can ko drasna

[nocturne pawn]

sorry shouldve said blue pidgeot

wait

shes dragon

i cant read

[grand trout]

It's the sides that's killing her

[nocturne pawn]

:idiot:

uhh

is there a reason why they dont wanna use cyrus

[grand trout]

Yes that's what i said as well

[nocturne pawn]

cuz even for dragon weak hes just a lot easier to use

[grand trout]

They're saving him for a later stage

[nocturne pawn]

ok

[grand trout]

Along with may

That's why we're using acerola

[nocturne pawn]

did they post move levels anywhere

id like to have those rather than just guessing

[grand trout]

Here

[sharp plaza]

i mean i don't mind using cyrus for this one but that just means i need to find a different water striker for malva

someone above mentioned that siebold could be good

[grand trout]

It's me lmao

[sharp plaza]

oop

[grand trout]

Siebold has insane sync

[sharp plaza]

right i'm looking at his grid

[grand trout]

Well maybe not insane but v strong

[sharp plaza]

i tried using the calculator and it does seem like i can pre-sync malva with siebold

[grand trout]

DO IT

[sharp plaza]

HAHA

maybe later i'm off to bed

[grand trout]

Well ping me the aftermath if ever

[sharp plaza]

looks like it should be a cakewalk the sidemons aren't obnoxious like drasna's

(inb4 wiped again)

[grand trout]

I'd like to see that wench getting blasted by the water pulse of the day

[mystic anchor]

Any best teams for poison stall? I’m having trouble beating Siebold 3k

[mellow linden]

Poison stall teams generally consist of a Poison inflictor (ideally Bad Poison like from Toxic or Poison Fang), a debuffer (debuffs the appropriate offensive stats), and a tank (a Support who ideally buffs the appropriate defenses and has Potions)

[rotund lagoon]

Note that 3k is really hard to Poison stall. 2.5k should be just fine.

[mystic anchor]

Gotcha

[fringe valve]

Holy didn't expect pomas to cap at 15k. Been gone for a bit .