#Champion Stadium
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Seviperrrr
So I can have 3 poison stall teams?
4 atleast
Ariados gets thrown in any poison team to help you take hits. Be it with snake or anyone else.
SSLeaf needs minimal help
They all gonna be able to get 2500 I hope? Master mode is hard if you dont have the right typing
okay cool
Tends to ignore typings
Should I show my tank/supports?
Yes
This all what I got
This the new pairs I got. I think they Missing
Good support roster, you def can go for Stalls
Skyla, Xerneas, Leaf, SSBlue, SSMorty
To name a few
okay
HOw do I filter out units that can poison? I went to filters and selected "can poison/badly poison" but it didn't show SSleaf
Iirc if it's caused by a passive it doesn't show up in the filter
Oh. So how am I supposed to know what all can poison/badly poison?
By playing the game and reading kits?
I'm supposed to read 150+ kits?
Leaf/Venusaur and Karen/Houndoom are the only two off the top of my head that might not be searchable by default
I mean, read the kit as you get it 🤷🏻♂️
Isn't having a variety of different kits to play with like puzzle pieces to solve a fight the reason to play a game like this?
Leaf/Venusaur was famously the only AOE "badly poison" for a long time
These look good?
Are you trying to toxic stall multiple fights?
Egg Nidoqueen is a second "Venom Drench" unit, as a option.
Kyurem makes a good debuffer that isn't venom drench based.
With Gacha options, Hydreigon is also a great debuffer for toxic stall teams.
Put SS Erika in one of your teams as a damage dealer & not stall, she's incredible
dont have hydregon
Sycamore and Bulbasaur from the trainer Lodge is able to do 3000 points CS this week.
Wait, he has Leafeon and thinks he doesn't have a good grass type?
I thought it only good for sync nuke 
It's sun blade is really strong.
Especially alongside Ho-oh so Leafeon doesn't have to worry about setting the sun for itself
Ya, Solgaleo and Riley/Lucario are both solid for steel or fighting type CSMM
Good free choices.
And I think Riley event is still here for a free EX
For fighting I got Champ Hop and Bea. Dual strikers work?
PB Solgaleo will only ever somewhat struggle against steel weak Glacia, and even then it's doable with the right team/params
I was thinkning of Swanna, Bea, Chop. Sounds good?
Both birds with a physical support (Zamazenta, Yamper, etc) are a strong combo.
Ohh okay
Ya, Swanna works too. You just spend a couple more turns buffing
The one risk is that this week the fighting-weak fight starts with +2 evasion. It can be annoying, but your sync nukes will kill them
There is no resistance or immunity in this game, based on typing.
A few specific fights have "type guard" passives, which are like resistances. But it's not specific based on their weakness or sync move.
If you use 2 units of the same type on a team, you activate the "type skills"
okay so I only need the damage dealer of the type mentioned in the stage
What's that?? You mean the theme skill??
Ya, the supports can be any "type".
You just want to bring a support that fills the niche your damage dealers need
okay
I guess I only need 1 poison stall
Oh right and ground too. Can SSSerena solo?
I don't have many ground units
Zygarde can carry ground type damage, yes.
She suffers from low move gauge support, so bring someone that buffs speed or something to help her
I don't use Zygrade much coz it gauge heavy a bit too much
Swanna/Zygarde is a good base for a team
okay
Heck, this week I did a 100% free to play run. Didn't use a single 5* gacha unit.
Even the lodge units I used were only from free units to invite to lodge.
For CSMM at 15000 points.
It was an easy week
Nidoking was free?
So many EX 
Ooh I'm blind LOL
Is the big horse a good unit?
Mudsomething
it's not
Okay
SS Serena is your best Ground option
Okay. So SSSerena, Swanna, Melony. Sounds good?
No.
Mudsdale is awful. I just wanted to challenge myself lol
Who sync first?? Swanna is EX but Zygarde change form
always sync first with Zygarde, no matter what comps she is in
Okay
Okay... That was way too easy. I cleared pre sync...
AND everyone was at almost full health
pretend to be surprised
how many poitns were these clears?
15000 points.
3000 per fight
oh damn. nice
https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1011675077764456519
You can try a few of the comps here, I didn’t have lodge sycamore so i off typed with SS Steven
Gardenia/ramos comp is surprisingly fun. Only issue is you need dauntless lucky skill on gardenia
R2 is permanent weather so you can use ss erika vs bertha for perma sun
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I'm a big boy. I did this week's Johto Champion Stadium all on my own.
What's R2?
It just works
Round 2, the second fight you do
wdym by second fight?
The fight you do after the first one, and before the third one...?
You can choose what order to do the elite four, and the champion is always the fifth fight.
There is a fight modifier for the first 4 fights that is in place based on the order they are fought, not based on which trainer you are fighting.
@warped jungle This tells you what the current round modifier is, and you can see what all 4 will be in order with the "i".
Ooh I see
I used SSErika, SSMorty, Meganium. I was able to defeat the middle pair pre sync but the side units killed everyone. They hit hard. Any advice on what to do?
Side units AOE hit way too hard
It was earthquake I think that Killed everyone
The modifier that says "sync moves have half cool down" is the worst.
The modifier that says "field effects are permanent" is probably the easiest.
When I did it the sun wasn't permanent either.
Meganium isn't providing very much to that comp.
Bringing a second damage dealer (like sceptile) or someone who can more readily buff defense for the team might help
okay. I just briught meganium for the +2 atk buff to max erika's atk
My sceptile is only 1/5
We don't have the modifier for permanent field effects this week.
So your sun won't be permanent on any fight.
Oh but someone said R2 is perm sun?
infinite field effects
Someone either lied/is bad/mixed up weeks
oh wait thats pasio stadium yeah
Ah. They might have been thinking of the grass specific stadium
ohh okay
But ya, permanent field effects is super nice for players.
Even just getting reflect or light screen permanent is strong. It also works for move gauge speed.
But if you have WTZ, that's what it was designed to use to abuse
Yes
okay
Bea, CHop, Leaf/Eevee works for fighitng?
For Steel I was thinking of Solgaleo, Yamper, Hop
need speed buffs
thats redundant
if you’re planning on nuking with bea
er how?
It should.
Bea and G-Zapdos are quite strong. I'd probably swap out Eevee for someone more useful for buffing Sirfetchd though
bea buffing herself would take far too long
oh
well hop subdps isnt bad and pre pb solgaleo isnt amazing
Yamper and Zamazenta basically fill the same role on a team.
Just Yamper and Solgaleo on that team is fine.
Put Zamazenta on a team with Sirfetchd and G-Zapdos for some big murder.
well idt theirs is 3/5
Hop was there for crit buffs 
sonia does that
Oh she does? I do have 4/5 sonia

At 3/5, Yamper gets crit buff.
At 3/5, Yamper is by far the best gen pool support ever. It's better than some Pokefairs and seasonals
yeahhh... so solgaleo, sonia, ???
whatever third really
@warped jungle
Are you doing hard mode, or master mode?
If you are doing hard mode, grab a pokemon of a type you haven't used yet
master
okay so for Erika team you said I need defense. Does SSBlue works?
SSBlue, SSerika, SSMorty
Then I'll have Yamper for Solgaleo and Hop for CHop + Bea
Sounds good?
IMO swap around those 3: SS Blue for Solgaleo, Hop for SS Erika, Sonia for NC Hop + Bea
Okay so def down not as useful?
Just use Nanu for Defense debuffs. Sonia provides Bea’s Attack buffs, helps the Speed buffs get done faster, and helps with crit buffs on the Bea + NC Hop team
i mean nc hop already does def down
so thats kinda redundant?
That's literally what I said??
Hold on, lemme type up my reasoning for the swaps
from sonia its not as useful
you want someone who can buff speed not only for bea but just general gauge management
isnt chop like 4 bars normally or is that just b move
he is 4 bars
riiiight everyone on that team gonna be 4 bar 💀
- Hop on SS Erika team: SS Morty handles gauge and Speed buffs for SS Erika, so Hop can handle Attack + some crit buffs to let Erika spend as few turns on setup as possible.
- SS Blue on Solgaleo team: Assuming Solgaleo is Power Boosted (heck, even if it isn’t you can just grid Sharp Entry) the only buffs it needs are +1 (+2 if no Power Boost) crit, which SS Blue provides along with gauge.
- Sonia on the NC Hop + Bea team: Sonia handles Bea’s Attack buffs, helps the team’s gauge via speeding up the Speed buffs and potential gauge accel, and helps with some crit buffs so the team spends fewer turns on setup.
Should I just use 1 fighting/dps on fighting team?
I think as long as you’re smart about queueing you’ll be fine with Bea + NC Hop + Sonia
okay
either one is fine on theyre own but you can use both
Well his rotations are fixed by TM giving free move and buddy costing 0
oh
Erika only needs one turn to set up right??
With Hop + SS Morty she’ll only be spending 1 turn on setup in the ideal scenario, just 1 click of X Speed and then start Solar Blading
If your SS Erika has Ramming Speed and/or Inertia gridded then you’ll wanna try and get her Speed as close to maxed as possible
THere;s some tile that increase speed
SS Erika doesn’t need to use Sunny Day with SS Morty on the team
The main reason I say 1 turn of setup is because you ideally want SS Morty to use Sunny Day as the last action of your team’s 1st action set (so Hop -> SS Erika -> SS Morty), which means Sun won’t be up for Erika’s 1st turn and so Solar Blade would be a bad move to use as her 1st turn
If you set Sun as the 1st or 2nd action of your team’s 1st 3 moves (so something like Sunny Day -> other -> other) it’ll wear off right before you Sync, which can make things awkward
(so Hop -> SS Erika -> SS Morty)
After doing this, do I start solar blading with Erika? Or do I still need to use "Soaking upi the sun"
Just Solar Blade with Erika, Hop and SS Morty will cover her offensive buffs (+5 Attack and +2 crit minimum by her 1st Solar Blade, +5 Attack and +3 crit minimum by the time you reach 1st Sync)
Since Hop is EX, should I use his sync first or just use Erika's sync?
If Hop is EX you can grid Adrenaline on him and Sync with him 1st
When will the grid expansion be available for hop?
When the “Hear the Cheers!” Event starts. #1012256199128915968 for start and end dates
Hop’s extra grid tiles are mainly QoL or focused on a meme-ish damage-dealer build, though. Adrenaline is in his base grid
Did you pick the More damage one or the more HP one?
And again, what round is this?
More damage
And what round is this?
But what round is this? As in, the number of the round you’re facing?
I am aware this is CSMM
??
How many fights have you done so far?
ohhh okay, so a poison stall would work better here?
Don’t try to shoehorn round parameters
They’re not all the impactful in the majority of scenarios
half sync and perma field are like the only big ones that matter
I’m inclined to think SS Erika just got crit, try again and if she gets KOed immediately again you can try the More HP pre-Sync parameters
Should I reset?
Oh, yeah, she definitely got crit
CS2 popped up on Bruno
No need to reset the whole challenge, just run the fight again
okay
Now a mud slap killed it. Leafeon was at around 80% hp.
Is it because it keeps getting crit?
also, how did a mudslap hit leafeon? isn't it a single targeting move?
considering the unflappable pop up on morty, im gonna take a guess that it was a rock slide and not a mud slap
Yeah that. It was something aoe
ah, that makes sense, nvm then XD. I thought it was because of tactics that somehow had leafeon as the first target XD
I'll just try it tomorrow, it's getting annoying now 
Why does Leafeon keep dying tho? Do I need to keep it at full health all the time?
You just happened to pick parameters that boost the opponents’ damage by a ton
its kinda just not built to tak many attacks, and pre sync parameters usually involve boosting your enemys attack significantly
Can try the More HP pre-Sync parameters or even post-Sync parameters for a bit less damage threat from the opponents
So I should change the parameters to somthign else?
I am unable to understand what does it mean by poison stall and low bulk?
I think on type means I am using the Sync Pairs type opponents are weak to.
Pre sync is before opponents can land a Sync Move I have to defeat them.
Right? If I am wrong please correct me!!
Poison stall means you poison them and then live until they knock themselves out. Other assumptions correct.
Poison stall is a strategy where you poison the opponents and just focus on surviving while they die to poison damage over time. Low bulk is just giving the enemies as little hp as possible to try and kill them before the sync.
Oh that's what low bulk is
I thought you knew already 
i thought you've already been doing this
Now I can't tell whether you're joking
it was such a thing that dreamy called me a masochist when i proposed max attack params to reduce bulk 
These people with their super EX limited units smdh
you not having any EXs beside rosa, gio, and for some reason brazil brendan is entirely on you
I don't need EX to use the low bulk accelerators! (I just need to use NC Blue)
Thankyou people!

One more thing! Which one is more preferred?
Or does it depends on team and I have to figure out myself?
Depends on the team, although I'd ignore the right 2 columns completely
1st column: if your damage dealer is on type and can KO mid before sync even if they're a little bulky.
2nd column: on type damage dealer can't deal with too much hp so we give them max offenses, low hp.
3rd column: you have great defensive bulk so you can survive enemy sync and KO mid after the fact
Poison stall: if you don't have a good damage dealer to deal with the current stage. Pretty much all stages in CS can be poison stalled. Just happens to be a long drawn fight.
5th column: similar to column 2 but damage dealer is off type
6th column: similar to column 3 but off type dd
And like Aurochs said, ignore the last 2.
I think, my battle style is mostly ontype and post sync! But I will give others a try too! Thankyou sm!

Poison stall sounds particularly very interesting
It takes forever just know that
Sooner or later you'll have to use a few others. Some stages from the harder CS regions are very difficult to post sync without having Uber tier supports.
But looks very funny when they KO themselves
Oh I see! Even if I complete this CSMM I will reset and try all the options multiple times with different teams!! Probably find good teams for each one
Cowards talk'
I haven’t done stall in forever and I’m gonna keep it that way
I'm not sure who it was but someone did a 4k stall maybe last week
ewww
Stall time isn’t affected much by points as damage is percentage based
Low bulk aka presync
The problem is that for 4k you need to give the opponent some offenses too, and for stall is a bad thing
Personally I always do fastest clears
Post sync is rarer so keep that in mind young ones 
me who uses post sync even when I am pre syncing
Rare you say 
This is the way
using postsync parameters to presync 
me whenever I stack HP so the battle doesn't end embarrassingly quickly
There is some weird love for full on STR and a few HP on top
Ofc, That's not what I am recommending unless you have a good roster and have good basics
Whoever is reading it wherever you are 
I've lately just been doing as many points as I can fit in because otherwise the battle ends way too quickly 

Why should they survive when they're johto-ians peasants.
yeah no unless i'm testing a new unit, they don't deserve the battle lasting long. i'm humiliating them as quickly as possible
that is, until they bully me whenever i start doing theme clears
burn them all to the ground
Ya know, I should make a hyper aggressive set next week to try some ohko-only shenanigans or something similar while I have the chance
I’ve got pairs for each type to prob make it work
A ohko-or-bust theme just sounds fun in easy land
you have no potion left, better resetting
I won LOL
Brealy help on to the last 100 hp
Was way easier than SSErika team. I jsut couldnt do it
Oh and I got a question about the stage. How did the Onix remove badly poisoned??
I had to poison it twice, and the second time took forever to land a poison on it/
it has Full Heal
Ohh okay
No faith in Leaf
Spamming tackle to flinch them so you can sync 

That's what I did, max def and opponents -atk saved me from dying
And they were -6 spd
So I did like 4 moves before they did 1
Sync heals ftw 
Should I increase the difficulty?
I only synced once by Sonia
points for that battle?
if you want to get more rewards, why not
2500
They all literally got one shot
Didn't even get full buffs on Bea
Can I reselect this incase I lose?
ye
Full str is more efficient if you have to give both defense and offenses since str is additive while other parameters are multiplicative and strength tend to give more points compared to atk + def or hp parameters
Hp tend to be more efficient than defense
i just do Full HP and Full STR~
Who's colress?? What type?
Okay
HP and strength are the most efficient parameters, but not the bestest for presync
Oh klinkklang dude. I do have him.
there is no gauge issue in that team
unless you used Rats i suppose.
if your Colress is 3/5, he is better
I mean strength is fine for presync, maybe hp instead of strength if you have the DPS but lack the defenses
otherwise keep SS Blue
Last week, i basically did full str and HP. Lance died before he couldd sync rofl.
Yeah he 3/5
grid Infliction Freebie and he won't use any gauge
Aye nice
colress TM has MGR if you need. should be fine till you get to your first sync
The best is when you do literal presync (I mean you clear before your own sync)
you can try 100. his only job is to Screech
okay
125 is quite cheap to get
What's the difference between the two?
Go viral is for status, ripple.effect is for stat debuffs
Okay so go viral is for paralysis?
Go viral for stuffs like thunder weave, ripple effect for stuffs like screech
Zamazenta if he's exed
Support EX sync first, damage dealer sync second
That's what I do, and I run all +str parameters. I usually go for reliable post-sync clears.
For pre-sync clears, your goal is to clear with your damage sync nuke ASAP
That was ez
sunsteel strike one shot everything
Didnt even get to the second sync
What's the next point difficulty after 2500?
3000 is the final milestone for rewards
You can pick more points to challenge yourself, but 3000 is the cap for each stage
So no presets for 3k points, gotta use my own head LOL
you can use 2.5k, and add from there
Can poison stall work with 3k points?
I ended up poison stalling the grass stage coz doing it with SSErika pissed me off... Can I do the same for 3k points?
okay. What were your parameters?
Phys/Spe Dmg Reduction (100)
Def/SpDef 1 (50)
Strike x3 (50)
Def/SpDef 3 (100)
Phys/Spe Dmg Reduction 8 (200)
Crit Def (150)
Def/SpDef 5 (150)
WTZ (150)
Max HP 4 (200)
Last 5 reds (1900)
Oh shit you took the strenght +6?
okay I'll take your word for it
You didnt even need the strikeX3 coz 3k level cap xD
This a good team?
isn't poison stall just Janine/Ariados, Lucy/Seviper, and some tank that has Potion + sync heal of some sort (either Leaf or BP Morty for me)
you can also try this for Bruno
This is what I used on 2.5k 
I used janine, lucy, Leaf/eevee for Bruno
4 bars on Frenzy Plant. might not work well with Sleep Powder
Sleep Powder needs 2 bars
or just use SS Erika, who is much more simple to use
No I mean poison stall for Bruno
yeah you can just use SS Erika too
no reason to stall if you have a strong ontype dmg dealer
like. even Gardenia works. lol
I tried 20+ times using that team. That's why I ended up using poison stall
I lost so many times
Just stall don’t listen to the haters
i do need egg nidoqueen
so i can have a 2nd venom drench unit
lowkey i want oleana too for a 3rd venom drench
LOL
but no gems
Usually you only need to debuff atk or spatk
I used Seviper, ariados, Leaf/Eevee for Bruno. He kept one shotting Leafeon
Leafeon, SSMorty, Zamazenta was the team
i'm not a hater, i just don't believe that SS Erika is not a free win on Bruno 
But how!? She kept getting one shot
use sleep
no, use sleep / ss erika / tank
check again if you accidentally picked Tech x3 dmg param
SS Morty is excellent
with him you dont even need Zamazenta there
Morty is 1/5 so he dont really get those potion refrezhes
shouldn't matter
okay
Potions rarely matter, and his 1/5 is really really good
chosen struggles
I've identified the issue 
Choose post sync parameters but presync anyway 🥱
The rats combo?
Practically most modern damage dealers given the proper setup
I've already been presyncing strength 11 comfortably, a few more HP won't hurt
(but newbies pls don't torture yourself like this)
i actually just Full HP and Full STR a lot.
I did 4k Geeta 2v3 with fucking Bianca yesterday
Like, most high tier units can 2v3 with 4k and shit/useless second unit

16k points
Can rei solo Karen?
I answered my own question
Able to pull of 14k, the params chart was too good!
Successfully did 2 poison stalls too though it took hours lol!
R1, 2 & 3 are 3k and remaining two are 2.5 k with some modifications!
Next week I will try for 15k!

Tbh I don’t recommend Rosa for toxic stall
It’s just such a waste of a good unit
You can have similar results with a synchro healer
Synchro healers that are free and good for stall include bpmorty
I think mesprit and Lillie are aight but no defensive buffs is a bit scuff I admit
Bp morty's a good one
Lf team and setup suggestions for csmm rd 4 team on Bruno for 1200 points. Preferably with minimal additional investment 😊 leftover strike/tech/support as shown
Haven't picked up Riley yet?
Or saving him for Lance?
Picked up, used on karen
Oh, also don't worry about saving for lance
If I can get 1200 pts on Bruno, I'll probly call it a week 🤣
Blaine is used already?
Gordie can only set sun once and I was going to suggest running Solar Beam HooH with a sun setter and
Ic ic
Yea, I think 2 of my original thoughts was palmer bruteforcing it or poison stall janice with sycamore's horn
Yeah both are viable options
Just wasn't sure how I'd set up the points for either to hit 1200 without trial and error 😂
Do Sonia + Palmer + Nanu
Sonia? Can try that, don't have infinite potion like on hop. Also, any recommended point setup?
These + ally move gauge -2
You can also replace Nanu for someone like Skyla since Sonia debuffs defense anyway. Her spd buffs are kinda slow though so Skyla can take care of that, max out defense and extra survivability if that's an issue.
Got it with the first team, ty 😊 hardest part is def the point setup, still not familiar with what to pick up and what to leave
You should give the detailed descriptions of the parameters a read
With the little + icon on top right corner. Understanding those will make CSMM a lot more manageable and fun.
Will do 😊
Has anyone soloed Lance with rose?
i could but that means redoing all of the cs stages
mine is also 4/5
i feel like you could just go tm -> max -> iron head
and fish for flinch
Yea im trying to similar. Just fish for flinch 1st move then tm
But not enough dmg
Adjusting params
Can't ay not enough dmg die too fast lol
I mean I have to take then down before enemy can do 3 moves
That's the trouble
3 moves I'm guaranteed dead
Yes side die in 2 hits
But mid crunch yall dead
Even if you deny sides
Trying diff ones
Come join me
Yeah I know that but other sync pairs are just fainted very early, iirc I tried 19 different tanks other than her but only she was able to withstand!
Also that's why I had to decrease the points to 2500 for R4 when I am using Sycamore.
HHaha
I don't have bpmorty atm! Same goes for Mesprit
And I have watched some videos regarding the poison stall, but sadly most of the sync pairs required 3/5 to be able to use their full potential and majority sync pairs I have are just 1/5.
Can always use Skyla
Sure I will! Gonna reset it again anyways. I have to try the battles in different order now! Bruno is quite challenging at 3k Params.
This time I will try Off type as well
But I still don't think 15k is possible for me this week
Even getting close to 3k per stage is quite the achievement, don't fret it
You'll get there over time 
I believe koga is special sync this week so misty would’ve been a great boon here for next time
She evasions a lot and can flat out heal
You just need to fish for some resets
Skill issues. Had to turn on the cheat codes.
I tried it with Misty too! Idk how to do it. Let's see trying again! 
She is 3/5 for you right
Yis she has ridicure and stuff
Mpr on her tm
And it
Wait lemme just post my grid I think it’s faster
So this but take the x spdef mp refresh all on the right
And ditch agile entry
To me it appeared quite useless sync grid when I first saw it.
I will give it a try!
Thanks 
Wallace and Milotic good for poison stalls? Just got him 
Passives are in favour of it I guess
Mm, not really
There are better options
Sure he has healing on sync but he has no way to buff defenses so you'll still need someone else to do that
unless you got every other role covered everything else in the tam
Milotic isn't a great tank, but pokey trap 5 is nice for trap damage
With more copies he can actually tank really well imo
Yes for stall at 3/5 can tank decently with healthy healing, first aid 4, sterner stuff 2 on top of recuperation 2
Am i good for this week?left 7.5k right 15k
I think Koga 15k might have a bit of a struggle with the gauge
looks fine, just be mindful of the gauges when running SS Gio
@somber monolith how many types have been filled in your type medal?
Fire water grass ground flying rock ghost and steel
Ash should clear Lance without much trouble
so bring 2 units with unregistered types to help filling the medal
like Fairy and Normal, which are rare types
Fairy is easy, Sycamore
Normal use Cheryl
Grass striker, steel striker.
Ground..striker if you have otherwise going to suffer through Hapu
Flying easy tank with Skyla
Rock easy support with Roxanne
Water can tank with Misty or Hilbert
Ghost use Acerola
Fire can use...Blaine? Flannery?
these are their completed types on the medal
they mentioned using Hop in an E4 round earlier
Oh well, the other way aroudn then 
Updated
Who's a support that debuffs both defensive stats at once?
Man they’re really throwing this week with the rounds huh
Oh pog I can get another sprint candy
Lenora
This is so beautiful 
Rare Noland sync 
Oh snap Lance had Crit shield?
haha 50k Guzma
Just presync Lance before he got crit shield up 
with all the dragon types at our disposal i sure hope killing lance before crit shield would be easy
i went post sync on him, he died to Zerena's Core Enforcer. After 3 syncs. (Zerena -> SS Morty -> Champion Iris)
My boy Palkia has done it
i uh
idk which type benefits most from perma wtz r2, def using for r5 but
for the rest... its hard to pick between ghost, psychic, and ice.
You don't need for ice
Irida has extended
And you have extra weather users there
As for psychic, you got Steven, Lucian and any piece of paper
No need for terrain
You probably want it for ghost
a lot of the lodge supports do that actually, also nc bede
recommended order for cs?
It’s a chill week, pick the round that makes your team the happiest t
And how to get through it?
Pins have the 12.5k, from there you have to add additional parameters fitting your team
Don’t combine attack and defence that’s going to make the battle almost impossible
What are some good crit buffers in the gen/F2P pool
I got through 12k pretty easily but then I bricked on Cyrus not being able to crit
Also Lucas isn’t a full dps right
Did you grid his crit focus tile?
Is that the one where he gets crit if he crits?
Yeah
Uh I didn’t
Spacial Rend has an innate 50% crit chance so it's easy to activate it
Oh
If you don't have an external crit buffer you should definitely grid that tile
Yea I completely forgot spacial rend did that
Lucas Cyrus is a decent damage core
Is there a special version of sc Steven
He feels unbelievably strong on any physical stage
Cyrus and Lucas don’t need a SC Steven lol
Tru
Run Roxanne
But just like in general
I’m using sycamore as the tank but he really falls off when horn leech doesn’t do damage
Yep, he has been nerfed, use Roxanne
because the standard damage reduction x3 parameter renders horn leech almost always useless, so he can't vampire tank as well as he used to
You have a better Roxanne?
No, I just don’t know what she does there specifically
Ok makes sense
Imagine Sycamore but no need to sync
Cyrus does but in a lame way, much better to let him get those crit buffs in
It also lets you avoid taking a majority of Cyrus's health as recoil damage
She has it on grid as well as endurance
You don't really need it though, she can die and so long as she has done the buff Cyrus and Lucas will win
Ok, that might also be a Cyrus/Lucas diff tho
No va cyrus and Lucas is pretty bare bones 1/5 no upgrades
I’ll tinker with it
Ty for the help
Well, I went through the rest of the rounds calmly with the modifiers of the dead, except for one on HP
Well, now I’ll think about how to get through, and if not, then I’ll have to drop points (
so if i use 9 types the first run would i have to use 9 different types the next time?
Yes, to unlock Master Mode
okay thank you
We recommend trying for 12ish types week 1 to make week 2 stress free
i already used 9 the first week so after i used all 18 i dont have to worry about it anymore?
Not for Johto, but you need to do it separately for each region
Not sure what you mean here - are you stuck on the final stage with the Leaf/Skyla/Cyrus team?
Yes I'm stuck on Lance
Okay, Aurochs advised you above to drop the defense params in favour of something else - have you tried that?
I think I'll need a coach to help me do the first four members on 3k
I'm in despair
What's your highest MM score?
They got Lucas thoughhhhh
And 3/5 SS Cynthia 
Lucas still good at 1/5, I been using him for so long
Zzzzz
Those two should obliterate Lance regardless, but the defense params won't help - drop em
She becomes a beast at 3/5
Defense parm are such a lie
I was saying Lucas
Mommy Cynthia been 3/5 the moment i pulled her
Ah
my high score is something like 13k
and for the teams i was thinking something like that
Offtyping bug stage i presume
Your Bug roster already better than mine 
I'm still struggling for 3k lmao
Your teams look good though
Whats your params
I'm struggling with those idk what to really put
Ok which round?
I'm bad with terminology what's quadque ?
So you sync and queue 3 moves before your opponents queue their next move
yeah I can do that
Aight
do you think i should get a dargon team and use silver paulo on something else ?
I want to see if you can pull this off though
Take the LuSSamine team
Vs bruno
Pick Standard dmg reduction.
Pick Ally Gauge - 2.
Pick all the strengths.
Pick no terrain
Pick physical reduction
Pick physical and special shield (the 50 each ones).
Pick power on hit up 1 and 2.
Pick Max hp 2.
Pick gradual healing.
Pick sync buff
Pick the no Condition and no Interference
This should be 3k
Oui

just fyi I don't have her ex role and she's 1/5
That's fine
i... mistakenly put Special Damage Reduction 80% on Bruno. Still won xd
SS Lusamine pretty op xD
Look at steven
ah wells, Lucian died sdly ;<
Just sync her first, then the rest use your supports if they have EX
Welp can't kill him fast enough his sync os me
if I switch my second support it might work tho
what investment are Ingo and Emmet? 1/5?
emmet is 3/5
Emmet alone should be enough even at 1/5
Can you screenshot before they sync?
well if Emmet consumes Super Up before his sync I can see why you might be failing, but the Str+HP being high means you need to successfully quad a supp EX sync
also, using Interference Immunity with Aaron is
moment, he has 50% flinch that can lower your sync cd
generally for on-type, with a striker ex sync like Emmet, you can just turn the offense up to 11, and and finish the fight in one sync + one move
I switch for ss may for extra sync countdown and it worked
You weren’t Syncing with SS Brendan 1st, were you?
Because SS Lusamine demands 1st Sync
I was syncing lusamine first
Ok, just wanted to make sure
who should I go for next and with which team ? with special damage reduction effect
was thinking will
just remember special damage reduction at start will ruin your quadqueue, so if you absolutely need to sync twice before the opponent syncs in order to win, you need to do a denial or bring some form of sync accel
will down I'm starting to get it now
ok I might need an imput on koga
should I try to go with my silver paulo and roll on him
then try a dragon comp for lance
or should I try to use one of my remaining off type team
and keep P-S for lance
is there a guide for which buffs i should tick and which are easiest?
if you're just started I suggest going for the ones that don't hinder your team like special reduction if it's a physical team
we have a parameter guide on pins
and that
what's your dragon team that you're planning to do on lance?
well first of all that team has no support and will probably have gauge issues
I really don't have much
replace cynthia or ryuki with a proper support
looks better
so do I go with paulo silver for koga then this team for lance ?
yes
that depends on your preferred playstyle, i usually go presync so you don't have to tank enemy sync
ok it doesn't work
I'm stuck now
the presync build wasn't enough I can't kill the other two
any ideas ?
maybe something involving ss red pikachu or nc marnie ?
Anyone I should do or avoid on certain rounds?
Just tried Guzma’s new grid, he’s much better now, good sync and solid dmg from pin missile
neat got the last 3k with that team
ty
lance decided spamming items was better than attacking
and wide guard ate an aoe after killing middle
Show params neow
Do you have Cyrus EX?
I don't have any good params best I had was when I tried an heavy offensive set up
no I don't have cyrus ex
Hmm I've ran Red/Lucas/Cyrus before for CSMM
He's EX but I believe it should still be doable without it
That’s not how parameters work
sorry I'm bad with terminology
what sync grid should I go for Cyrus kazu ?
anyway here are my parmeters
That
That’s still not
We’re talking about master mode parameters
We all have the same ones
Like the points
I checked who has the stronger sync too, if you have the super effective up effect I believe with the right parameter Cyrus sync could kill mid before the critical shield went up
ok lemme try with damage up thingies if I can pre sync it
it's hard idk if there is a world where I can make it draco meteor, swift and twister os me
I hardly can take two attacks from lance
and I need to make my quadqu then use the two countdown reduc
Quadque is kinda impossible if you didn't pick up the permanent field effect thanks to the reflect running out
Even then it's would still be pretty difficult with Red thanks to his reactive passive that's a 50/50
You either adrenaline 1 or hope it didn't trigger 
I still need the perfect turns
no damaging moves
or snorlax dies and I can't use the accelerator
Tips on Will? He has impervious so I can’t get a big SSR Cynthia sync
Use fantina or shauntal
Fantina wants spdef drops too tho
Fantina sync also relies on SpDef down
Unless you mean the guaranteed SEUN
It will still hit hard
Honestly should have pulled zoroark instead of geeta
Tbf rewards past 7.5k (?) are for the most part are just small bonuses
yeah but I wanted to finnaly do it
There's no competition so there's no rush to it, take your time and eventually you'd build a strong enough roster for 15k
she still does 17k first sync
its strong enough
I got like 8k but I may not have crit
yeah you kinda need to crit
thankfully with ssrc shes never given me the crit rng bullshit
welp idk when u wake up but i managed to beat 3k lance with un exed cyrus 1/5 lucas and roxanne nosepass
its a little rng dependent but not terrible
i went with picking R3 parameter (sp def dmg reduction), and 2 sp. def buffers (lenora and dana). it should help you stabilize for the first few turns, and if you're using EX cyrus, you can curbstomp the fight at 3k
cyrus is pretty self-sufficient - new world order, sharp entry, crit boost to get to 6 spa, 6 spd, and 3 crit
I've sent this in #1217072721268314185 but I figured I might as well also ask here because no one replied 
Lance (Dragon): Cyrus-Palkia, Lucas-Dialga, +1 (idk)
Will (Ghost): Riley-Lucario? +2
Koga (Ice): Ghetsis-Kyurem????
I can probs just run gladion-magearna, sycamore-xerneas, +1
Bruno (Psychic): Giovanni-Mew2, Bianca-Musharna, Sabrina-Alakazam
Karen (Bug): Guzma-Golisopod, +2
idk where I can go off with this? all the +1 and +2 you see are supports I can use but I dont really have much built supports. (skyla, hop, sabrina are at the top of my head)
for hard mode or master mode?
hard mode
master mode is after you clear the CS with 18 different types yeah?
No need to double up with Cyrus and Palkia etc for hard mode
yeah focus on type medals
for will, you can use giovanni/mewtwo as they have shadow ball
also with hard mode, you can kinda just off type. so you could use ss gladion to fight bruno for example
you can do allister as well for will
Ghetsis Sycamore is a common and very effective combo
Giovanni should be run with Roxanne for either type
Cyrus also could use Roxanne but you can run Cheryl and Skyla too
i also personally quite like Viola + SS Gladion
What does Viola do for SS Gladion?
correct, that's for Karen
Gladion can debuff sp atk for himself though, may be better to bring sp def debuffer?
How many spdef debuffers do you have!

What support does Allistair need?
yeah i personally just like to do Gladion TM > 2x Cannon > sync > buddy move. otherwise you gotta use 1 more turn to cannon before buddy move
Sp atk and crit
plus it fits bug requirement
He can do it himself but it’s slow
Well is Sabrina is already built no need to reinvent that wheel
torchic then
You want supp ex anyway, 1 FC post sync into PFC nukes the stage
Ghetsis Sycamore Hapu
Giovanni Roxanne ???
Cyrus Cheryl Skyla
SS Gladion Viola ???
Allister MC Torchic ???
That's pretty nice, only one overlap
issue is I dont have torchic
is free, go get
One of the ??? Can be SS Blue and another can be Shauna
Then we don't have a steel so Hop?
did you mean Hau?
where can I get?
ch13 of story mode iirc
viola is also from story mode?
aight
Also complete Sycamore's Legendary Adventure if I'm reading that image right
Have you cleared this week's CS? If yes, what did you use for Bug weak stage?
I haven't but I always go Bugsy Noland Hop for my normal bug clears
i (stupidly) EX'ed Lusamine because i really wanted to try her out, but i ended up off typing it. if i can be bothered, i want to try again with Lusamine, but just need to come up with a comp for her
Just wanted to make sure someone is clearing with my boys Bugsy Noland
My only frustration is that syncing with Noland resets fury cutter
Yeah but I want to see Mega Pinsir sometimes
think she is 3* from gacha
you can try with Cheren/Stoutland probably
also don't forget to farm masters day coop. get that Cheren move level lol
no worry I already farmed out everything
and I so happen to get free gear but only the dragon would be useful for me for now
so cheryl is just there for sustain support?
don't think you need her for sustain as you have skyla there too
but it fits normal medal
no you can not 
ooft. rip
What were you running before?
It should still work but sadly you will need to self buff Cyrus
actually
I wanted cheryl's spatk buffs to match skyla's speed buffs
RIP efficiency
was like Lusamine, sleeper, and some buffer. problem is she is not self-sufficient at all. needs sp atk, speed, and 1 more crit
Yeah needs a lot of buffs. Maybe try Leaf + Lucian?
and for some reason, bug buzz hits like a wet noodle even when gridded lol
Lusamine, a unit you EX just so she can survive a sync
idk would sabrina work over cheryl?
Yeah Sabrina would work no problem
considering she's already built and cyrus needs spatk
oh btw I'm imagining that only your strikers are built
just to ask for ghetsis team hapu is there for the accuracy buff?
Nah she is there to get ground type without using much gauge
what do you consider built? level 120 with lucky skill and some sync grind investment?
hmm I see then in that context
only my riley lucario is built 
none of my other strikers have any form of sync grid investment
Hmm well still might work 
what was your team and parameters?
Any of these good for bug weakness?
Lusa seems ass ngl
She can;t even buff herself
Burgh or Alder or both
Can I increase Adler's accuracy somehow at 1/5?
supp ex alder can generally do fine
I remember the last time I used him I missed 3 hyper beams in a row
I need to EX Adler??
with a support ex
his ex doesnt really matter aside from the slight attack boost at 1/5
What about this?
doesnt really matter
BUt they miss a lot
Supports who buff accuracy are not very rare nowadays
Do I grid Burgh or not? Use both Burgh and Adler in same team. I should aim to kill the middle guy before he can sync right?
So maybe bring a sun setter instead of a tank/healer?
You still need a tank
Burgh had some nice sun tiles
Oh okay
Fortunately SS Morty is both a tank and a sun setter, and also carries gauge very well
I was thinking whether he's needed elsewhere
Grid Burgh for sun tiles, Smarty Pants and on a roll tiles
If you don't use Morty, ignore Burgh's sun tiles and focus on spdef debuffing
okay
Is coalossal good? Just saw he can do the rebuff thing
Who do I use for ice? I don't think any of these too good.
He is a great Fire type enabler, he does nothing for Burgh tho
Both Ghetsis and Hala are good options, just don't use them together
I don't think I'll need Morty for anything else.
For Dragon I got Zerena, dialga, SSB maybe
Ghost can be Irida
Irida needs any support??
Ah okay
And faster buffing
I don't know why do you think of Lyra first while Sabrina, Melony and SS Elesa exist as better gen pool options
For this week, which parameter to avoid for which e4?
doesnt matter at all really
maybe dont do will round 4 since he has impervious but like, there isnt anything that should be a big issue at all
The only two parameters to really take note of are:
Enemy sync moves have half timer
Field effects are permanent
I see... any way to check whether a e4 is a physical or special attacker shy of going through the battle?
small clarification but its half sync for everyone
not just the enemy
But the enemy getting it is the scary part 🤣
i just treat it as a free win cuz it means less time to supp ex and i just win
Aight, I cant locate info about Lance so im just gonna ask. Could anyone help me make a Team for either Lance or Karen?
I can easly do Karen with:
Silver & Tyranitar
Sycamore & Xerneas
Colress & Klinklang
I have more Dragon types than Bug types so I thought it may be a good idea to use this Team for Karen but im afraid Lance can be a problem if I use my strongest Team now.
+tracker try using this instead for your roster
Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button
Sync Pairs Tracker for Pokémon Masters EX
Lance is doable with cyrus Lucas Roxanne but is a little rng dependent
Oh damn. Thank you! Thats what I needed nobody reccomended this for me.@undone ether
@digital hawk please tell me you know about the type medal...
That depends on what you mean by me knowing about type medal
so what do you know?
Each Sync Pair Type you used gets recorded in the respective regional medal. Use all 18, and you gain access to Master Mode, which houses even more rewards.
TL;DR just use as many pair types as you can if you haven't unlocked CSMM yet







