f2p CSMM 15k clears (as accessible as possible, by Aurochs)

[thin fjord]

I don’t really get it? Is it just being a tank?

[void igloo]

Yes

Spdef tank with some heals.

[thin fjord]

Alright

[void igloo]

BP Morty is another good one

[thin fjord]

It’s because I don’t have a grid on any of the units

Like the 3 mentioned

[void igloo]

You only need a grid on the tank

If you can get a tank with heals and spdef up that's enough

[thin fjord]

Alright

[void igloo]

Mistyduck, BP Clemont, and at a stretch Liza spring to mind

Back in the day you could tank with Viola but I fear those days are behind us

[thin fjord]

Hm

I copied your grid for misty

She’s 4*

And lvl 125

But she dies too early?

[void igloo]

Are you using her healing on her? Both Lucy and Janine have their own gradual healing

[thin fjord]

Yeah

I used the tm on her once

So she could have gradual healing

I should use more on herself?

Also Janine doesn’t have gradual healing without grid right?

I haven’t grid her

[void igloo]

Give it another go

Janine doens't need to survive

[thin fjord]

alright

[thin fjord]

Good stuff

Worked pretty well, you just gotta try hard enough and pray to the rng gods

[velvet orchid]

Can never go wrong with good ole' poison stall, it's Aurochs' favourite CSMM start

[thin fjord]

Yeah

Blue was easy

First tried it

Check #gacha-and-flex

[thin fjord]

Waiting excitedly for this week’s 👀

[tidal parcel]

(4 poison stalls 💖) ||jk||

[sudden kayak]

[void igloo]

Sycamore is back, a new duo for me, and some eggs. I was trying to find a fun clear for Blue but ended up just using Roark, he’s too powerful. I forgot I was vaguely doing eggs so pretend Ramos is tech Victreebel.

https://youtu.be/7prwPfPraz0?si=X-HclXARKVma5g3j

[sudden kayak]

3k sycamore solo

[normal latch]

sycamore solos should be easy as long as it is a special stage

also grid for sycamore?

[void igloo]

https://youtu.be/7prwPfPraz0?si=Riy56uoDQOFSNTLg&t=4

[normal latch]

ah it is at the beginning instead of at the end

[normal latch]

[void igloo]

Permanent field win

[normal latch]

there are a couple of solos that I have to try

mainly SSCyrus and VMallow

[thin fjord]

help me, I’ve been trying lance round 3 and I’m not able to do it

I used Serena instead of eggxecute

[void igloo]

Do you know where it’s going differently compared to my video?

[thin fjord]

Oh uh

I cleared that my bad

I mean

I didn’t clear it

I went for poison stall

[void igloo]

Sounds like a clear to me

[thin fjord]

Yo auroch

I was taking a look at your team for blue

I have Roark ready

Just gotta ask what exactly is Ramos and surge’s point? As in can I replace them for something better?

[limber nest]

surge for crit buffs. ramos i assume is for sleep denials. the video is here

[thin fjord]

Is there a replacement for surge? I tried hop and proton but it just isn’t the same

Also, it’s probably because I don’t have critical strike 1 on Roark (no more cookies), but I deal less damage overall, even with the same grid and the same attack and critical buff, am I missing something?

I even have less stuff on my parameters in general (going for 2.6 instead of 3)

[void igloo]

Hop should work fine. Can’t say what you’re missing, can you share screenshots?

[thin fjord]

Yeah I’ll make a video give me a min

[thin fjord]

Nvm I just put the point count lower

Managed fine with your concept

thx

[void igloo]

If it works it works but how did Ramos die before hop

[thin fjord]

he kinda frail

Hop tuff

[void igloo]

activate

[valid zodiac]

[void igloo]

My game works again I can do the thing https://youtu.be/YWUBWHEzN0s?si=SOi3sGvnNpmT-gmp

[lean spoke]

Aurochs using an EX pair other than Rosa ? No way

[valid zodiac]

plot twist: this is not the real Aurochs

[thin fjord]

HE’S BACK

[cold sparrow]

[limber nest]

AurochsNotAway

[wintry steppe]

WOOOO AUROCHS!!

[void igloo]

Interesting week. Coming to agree more strongly with all those who say 3k has really sapped the fun out of this game mode. This is the first time I’m pushing hard on the as accessible as possible disclaimer. Even if fully f2p teams are possible, I try and get teams here that can be easily replicated without too much rng, and I don’t think this week can be done within those constraints. So for this week I have used some gen pools, which frankly are as I said more accessible than any possible f2p nonsense that could be come up with. I’m hoping this is still useful. Maybe I’ll need a stage by stage compilation of f2p clears, but even then the round parameter matters for some of these. A challenge for sure.

[void igloo]

https://youtu.be/km1CyTrV-qI?si=sSMDi6L7QUnp8bqR

[void igloo]

I did a full f2p clear! Reader, this will not be repeated next week. Weirdly the hardest was using Cyrus, had to give him CS2 and even adjust his grid and everything. Cynthia was first try.

https://youtu.be/BQVOS2TgdGc?si=rbO9xdw2eatuGoNj

[thin fjord]

as someone that never got Sonia after coming back for over 100 days, I approve

[velvet orchid]

Amazing

[native swallow]

Poison stall still going strong for f2p clears, but too much RNG with MPRs unfortunately

[thin fjord]

Bertha was hell

[sharp lagoon]

Where is the clear at. @void igloo Looking to copy paste 😂

[safe wren]

Hellish week

[abstract halo]

“this will not be repeated next week”

[void igloo]

A win is a win

[sharp lagoon]

What is this. 1 post every 10 days? Not a happy subscriber. 😂

[void igloo]

Well here’s the full run. Bertha is Bertha I suppose!

[valid zodiac]

aurochs using gen pools???

[void igloo]

My 2.5k Wilkstrom strat just does not work anymore

[velvet orchid]

What type of params do you run in R4 and R5?

[void igloo]

Normal presync?

[velvet orchid]

Oh I just mean is it max offense (Atk 1 + 3 + 5) or substituted with strength?

[void igloo]

Max atk

And strength

[velvet orchid]

Oh damn, Marley and Roxanne can handle it?

[void igloo]

Lucian and Cynthia are weak

[velvet orchid]

Ah

[void igloo]

Also there is a lot of sleeping and flinching, so they only have to last long enough for the mid to be down

[cold sparrow]

Marley and Roxanne are great

[thin fjord]

auroch releases his team for the week’s csmm 10 minutes before reset

boycott him

[sudden kayak]

Good job aurochs, grass banner legend Ramos doing work

[void igloo]

Get that 11 Ramos

[void igloo]

Another unimaginative week. Tried to do some fun things like Koga nuke but it just doesn’t work. Sad. This is EX Giovanni and booked Ghetsis too.

[sudden kayak]

More free units for the clears in this thread

[tired patio]

Riley would now be starring alongside the others

[limber nest]

nuke Koga didn't work?

[void igloo]

Nup

3k has so much bulk. He could do it if someone else was debuffing spdef.

[abstract halo]

Aurochs avoids using event locked things

[sudden kayak]

but its Riley

[cold sparrow]

He might while the event is active

[limber nest]

your koga is not gridded for mind games?

[void igloo]

One Koga can only do so much! He isn't getting them to -6

[limber nest]

that's true

f2p sp defense debuffers are in a dire situation

bp janine should've had something to debuff sp def since she already pairs so well with koga smh

[void igloo]

Getting this out of the way

[lean spoke]

Gen pool units ???

[thin fjord]

if only wikstrom's aegislash was as good as gen 6's

[void igloo]

I remember Wilkstrom pre-grid

[void igloo]

The stalls were the hardest part? Somehow. Looking forward to Hoenn!

[sudden kayak]

Nice work

Have you tried BR with these kind of units yet

[sharp lagoon]

Every week. I start with the thought ‘I’m going to f2p csmm this week’. But once I open up my roster… and see the MFs, i give in 😂 hats off to your perseverance and effort.

[void igloo]

I think BR is too random, but you just get an egg of the type you’re stacking and you should win.

[void igloo]

Next week!

[void igloo]

This needs Bogoleo rather than base Solgaleo, but overall a much easier week. Still not that fun though.

[cold sparrow]

I gotta say, I respect the commitment to doing these clears despite them not being all that fun

[sudden kayak]

But don’t forget to have fun too, aurochs with the gacha pairs

[thin fjord]

Woah, auroch using 2 la sync pairs in one battle

that’s kinda overkill

[void igloo]

Already used Roxanne, had to find a poor substitute somewhere

[vapid bloom]

Blue:

[split lantern]

How do you keep Roark from knocking himself out?

[void igloo]

Give him gradual healing from grid and have a potion handy

[limber nest]

That's a nuke grid

You'll need those standfast tiles

[split lantern]

Oh right

[limber nest]

I prefer nuke Roark, but do give his head smash DPS a try too

[void igloo]

Nuke is good but less memey

[split lantern]

1 sync tile with remaining energy or go all in with head smash power?

[sudden kayak]

We prioritize memes around here

[split lantern]

Why did you sync with Hop at the end?

[void igloo]

Just ease, no stress trying to quadqueue

[split lantern]

Got it. Thanks so much!

[void igloo]

Can’t always promise replicability

[velvet orchid]

what da hell I was waiting for you to restart

[lean spoke]

rng moment

[raven siren]

with better flinch luck you wouldn't have needed the paralysis luck
so the odds probably weren't too bad

[void igloo]

And done. This used the field parameters heavily, and involved some jank. Round 4 was a double denial which is almost unheard of, only works because Fury Cutter is so powerful.

[void igloo]

Forgot to say I had to modify params to half health for Glacia clear, otherwise she is too strong. Anyway, an upload before end of week (just)? Times are changing. https://youtu.be/2EaapyeSh0Y?si=9-im-LSo64SwcxcT

[thin fjord]

Wtf is up with this week

[void igloo]

I havé a team that can best Sidney theoretically easily but in practice I’m about 200 tries in

[thin fjord]

I had to reduce my points so much for Sidney

Insane

I’ll post my clear later

[safe wren]

All my (insert alternative words to dudes here) hate Sidney

[void igloo]

Genuinely perhaps 200 tries, most due to rng, but a frustrating number due to repeated mistakes

And I regrid see both Mina and Ramos for it

[safe wren]

Screw Sidney

[plush crater]

Sid and Phoebe gave me the worst time, especially when trying to help my new friend clear

[hybrid hedge]

Glacia clear with one of my favourite combos

[void igloo]

And to think I wasted Janine there

[abstract halo]

Only took 10 minutes

[void igloo]

Finished this week!

First up is the Sidney clear above. My recording makes it look easy, but it had too many ways to go wrong. Literally a couple hundred tries over a few days.

After that I got stuck in a rut until today, thanks to @hybrid hedge for getting me out of it. See their even more superior Sycamore clear above.

The Giovanni clear requires some luck (no earthquake is a big one), and to denial the sides. Then the game gave two poison stall params and it was close to reset so I thought okay and did that. Skyla finished on about 1 HP, but a win is a win (don’t use those potions too early!).

Goodbye Hoenn and Sinnoh!

https://youtu.be/vLNWKzwVIMI?si=Y6IErmTyczZvfuiA

[void igloo]

So yeah I’m pretty sure this was Skyla

A crowning achievement

[void igloo]

CSMM IS FUN AGAIN

Went straight for a base 3/4 star pair run. Beautiful pairs, beautiful runs, no shenanigans. Just units synergising and working as they should. How CSMM used to feel.

https://youtu.be/SdPo_5qc5s0?si=2OjVGmKoavlIRx-u

[limber nest]

You sound like a boomer complaining

[sudden kayak]

ok boomer

[safe wren]

This boomer makes the road easier for the new generation

[hybrid hedge]

Back in my day we used to have to think about how we battle

Bow we have this whole fancy fangled units that just upgrade you with a single click off the dime

[lean spoke]

Whitney

[raven siren]

johto CSMM feels so refreshing in 3k

I'm worried that come kalos 3k, budget clears aren't going to be accessible at all

[lean spoke]

Kalos is ok

[void igloo]

Easy f2p clears for the Grass Pasio Special Stadium

These should all be quite simple to replicate, and to perhaps improve with gen pool or limited units if wanted. I will say that if you do want to replicate this, switch rounds 1 and 2. Also, give Silver CS2 (if he doesn’t have WW3), new lucky slots are great and I should have used them.

Enjoyed that three of the battles had no grass types!

https://youtu.be/tXfjGiGbY-4?si=akTzIsRWAAtmUHSL

[main shoal]

ooo, xerneas can solo lorelei in stage 3?

gonna try that out~

[plush arrow]

any chance you could show the 3k params used for each round please?

since afaik there isn't a 3k preset

[abstract halo]

They’re shown in the vids at the end of each clear

[plush arrow]

was watching the beginning portion. there's sync grids for agatha, silver, and torchic, but no presets shown. or is it near the end?

time stamps don't make it seem obvious if presets are shown at the end either

[abstract halo]

At the end of each clear, yes

[plush arrow]

hmmmm i see it now, but i do think it's better to show them at the beginning of the clear. since the flow of people watching/replicating it would be setting presets first before doing the actual fight. just minor feedback

[void igloo]

Sure, just no easy way to do that from a recording flow

[plush arrow]

i think you can show the presets screen from before the fight. since it always forces you to set presets before you can do team selection

you already have the team selection screen, so it's probably a few more additional frames

i assume you are using a video editor of some sort since you are able to link multiple clears into one video. you can probably cut out the part where you are selecting the team (after confirming presets)

due to various cuts, the BGM already doesn't flow well, might as well go all the way

[sudden kayak]

what i used to do was show the parameters on the side with a graphic, but it is extra work

it really depends on the individual youtuber and how much they are willing to edit. it's one thing to create graphics that can constantly be reused, but constantly adjusting parameters (which is what I do) can involve making quite a few changes

[plush arrow]

yup. understandable

[thin fjord]

Editing videos can be a pain sometimes

[plush arrow]

just wanted to say thank you for the video. i'm learning a lot about sleep and turn management just from the first 2 fights. i wanted to ask if there's a way to know which sides will attack after the left most one attacks. e.g.:

1. sleep center
2. sleep right
3. sleep center > left will queue up an attack
4. since center is still asleep, maybe right wakes up by now? how do i know between left and right which one will attack next so i can sleep them? or is there a way to guarantee left is always going to attack?

[void igloo]

They always go in the pattern Centre > Right> C > Left > C etc. If you sleep, then 1) queue up a tm instead, 2) if they don't have a tm they move on to the next one in the cycle.

If the next one is asleep, they move to the one after that, etc.

[plush arrow]

oh ok, so if right attacks, and c is asleep, left just wakes up, then it will always be left

[void igloo]

yes, assuming left was already awake. There's a weird grey area where they are just waking up where the game seems to randomly pick

[plush arrow]

so that bit is still RNG then. it's a 50/50

[void igloo]

I'm sure there is a pattern, however it's not too much of a concern. Usually it's very simple, the hard part is keeping track of who is asleep. There is a bit of rng with sleep length.

[plush arrow]

yeah

for the bertha run, seemed like proccing one mp refresh on torchic was necessary?

[void igloo]

Oh yeah, otherwise no +3 crit +6 spa

[plush arrow]

seems silver gives himself crit, but yeah you lose the spa

[void igloo]

Although if your silver is expanded you won't need it

[plush arrow]

mine isn't expanded

[void igloo]

Clay is back

[void igloo]

First Kalos 3K. Couldn’t quite pull a full f2p as Siebold is a monster. Probably possible with Skyla instead of Sonia but talking 1% of runs. Got an OakMew win which is always good, and a few eggs used this week. Then finally Clay storms the competition as usual!

https://youtu.be/ixc6-ExPIqc?si=Gd7yQE2ssCpLvRgm

[thin fjord]

crazy how Sonia is one of the 5 ticket units I still don’t have after all this time

With 3 of the others being lodge units 🙄

Nice run though

[void igloo]

Full f2p 3k! Some of these are quite fun. Dancing around healthy advantage took a lot of finesse but it really works.

https://youtu.be/jYHDZ1B_Vhw?si=XqtFGq5uVlOSJfhq

[limber nest]

Amazing thumbnail

[void igloo]

It has the feels

[void igloo]

So here is my Pasio Special Stadium Fairy weak run, where you end up against NC Nate. It is very rough given free fairies, but I stalled a couple of times and didn’t bother with BP Valerie so there is lots of flexibility. However, Nate himself, very rough. My run was pain and basically it’s rng about what moves he uses and how long he stays asleep. Plus of course you have to hit through evasion. Also Mina didn’t have CS2 for 100 attempts because I forgot she had clear-headed.

So clear the E4 with the f2p stuff, and save all your hard hitters for Nate!

https://youtu.be/-EOLGy498DY?si=X2io0EmeH7amAH2O

[safe wren]

here to remind everyone this is a great thread

[thin fjord]

Been a while but he’s back

Also what’s up with those random levels lmao

[void igloo]

Didn’t want to do Unova anymore, done it so much

[thin fjord]

same

And it was 5 this month

[void igloo]

Too late to help anyone, here is Pasio Special Stadium Steel-weak f2p plus KGrimsley

[cold sparrow]

Oh shit does this end tonight

[void igloo]

Steel-weak Bertha Chezei clear

[cold sparrow]

[void igloo]

Okay so Chezei found out there’s a day left https://youtu.be/pnzYDs9pbEk?si=SNF0IWYc0y4qo8xK

[cold sparrow]

[void igloo]

Pasio Special Stadium
Rock-weak Blue

My first real Olivia clear on a Blue who required too much role compression.

https://youtu.be/gpt89Id0_HY?si=ZVLUlVz4TxkpydOq

[safe wren]

[void igloo]

Here a collection of Sinnoh clears with free to play and gen pool characters:

• Aaron electric-weak: Koga, Tech Nidoqueen, BP Morty/(https://youtu.be/uX0adUPZNfU?si=0QWqALpD0HSQp0Ws&t=0) (poison stall)

• Aaron fire-weak: Lucy, Janine, BP Morty (poison stall)

• Aaron fire-weak: Silver, Serena, Sonia (gen pool)

• Aaron ground-weak: Lucy, Janine, Skyla (poison stall)

• Aaron ground-weak: Lucy, Tech Nidoqueen, Skyla (poison stall)

• Bertha grass-weak: Sycamore, Janine, Marlon (whatever this is)

• Bertha ice-weak: Ghetsis, Ramos, Roxanne/(https://youtu.be/km1CyTrV-qI?si=0QWqALpD0HSQp0Ws&t=0)

• Bertha steel-weak: MC Solgaleo, Serena, Hilbert (gen pool)

• Bertha steel-weak: Wikstrom, Serena, Hilbert (gen pool)

• Bertha steel-weak: A Grimsley, Acerola, Skyla (gen pool)

• Flint psychic-weak: Giovanni, Acerola, Sabrina (gen pool)

• Flint psychic-weak: Giovanni, Whitney, Cheryl

• Flint rock-weak: BP Erika, Janine, BP Morty (poison stall)

• Flint water-weak: Cyrus, Winona, Roxanne/(https://youtu.be/5vdDy6MMtcE?si=0QWqALpD0HSQp0Ws&t=572)

• Lucian bug-weak: BP Erika, Lt. Surge, BP Morty (poison stall)

• Lucian dark-weak: BP Erika, Tech Nidoqueen, Skyla (poison stall)

• Lucian flying-weak: Blue, Ramos, Marley

• Lucian ghost-weak: BP Erika, Ghetsis, Skyla (poison stall)

• Lucian ghost-weak: BP Erika, Mina, BP Morty (poison stall)

• Cynthia dragon-weak: Cyrus, Winona, Sycamore

• Cynthia dragon-weak: Cyrus, Winona, Roxanne

• Cynthia fairy-weak: Mina, Ramos, BP Lt. Surge

• Cynthia fighting-weak: MC Solgaleo, Ramos, Marley

• Cynthia poison-weak: Koga, Viola, Misty (poison stall)

[lean spoke]

i feel like you could make a #1006331343300473022 out of that

compiling all your f2p cs clears from all regions

[void igloo]

Might be a good idea. I would want to fully check what I have though, the above are all from January 2024. I think I have every stage at least once.

[void igloo]

So I have 2.5K of everything, but I never thought it worth rerecording Johto, Unova, or Alola f2ps at 3K

Except for one sweet all 3/4 star Johto

[void igloo]

New Sinnoh run, trying to ease with some gen pool.

The poison stall is actually deeply frustrating due to needing great Potion rng, but Skyla can do it. The rest were someone enough. There’s a path with Hop instead of Aaron but the rng, the rng…

https://youtu.be/2xGeGZJ3-EE?si=N8HsIPvFOIhgqM-L

[torn elk]

What does BP mean?

[rancid coral]

BP = Battle Point
#1092823068256251945 (reminder that this also isn’t a help channel)

[void igloo]

I don’t mind if people ask things here, keeps it alive

[pearl sandal]

Why not use exed LA pairs now?

There are only two but they could have been made easier

[void igloo]

Well it’s a good question but it actually wouldn’t make much difference. Cyrus EX would actually do nothing, MC Solgaleo would make a small difference but his 3 bar is good enough without.

[pearl sandal]

Ig, but it would still make future clears easier

[void igloo]

It would help Ghetsis a lot.

[safe wren]

I mean, if it can be cleared with non-exed versions, surely the EX-ed/expanded ones will do better
This is more of a teaching and "prove" thread that F2P still clears

[pearl sandal]

But since ex la are permanent there is no reason to not use them

[clear magnet]

how do you get all 18 types in the medal in one fight, it keeps saying ihave to do it to reset

[rancid coral]

Well 18 > 15 (the maximum number of teammates you can use per clear) so it takes 2 weeks per region to unlock MM at a minimum

[clear magnet]

oohhh it caries over when it rotates back

[void igloo]

Easy week this week, good parameters.

https://youtu.be/GtESA-vC3xw?si=GuCYwPRzGbCzpEzo

[void igloo]

Sinnoh March 2025 week 3

Fully f2p steel-weak Bertha! Roark dps!

https://youtu.be/U4_ULPCmhDI?si=sg_HLK5DiIcwxa-t

[wintry steppe]

Pog

[pearl sandal]

again this timearound the pb and exed solgaleo would have helped so much

nvmit was already pb

[void igloo]

PB crucial, need for speed

[void igloo]

Tried some new teams for each stage, ones I hadn’t done before. Dipped into the gen pool for this, some types just don’t have that many pairs.

https://youtu.be/DHQxZgTttWg?si=7P4R0CUwtIuxvbS3

[void igloo]

• Sidney bug-weak: Bugsy, Noland, Hop

• Sidney fairy-weak: Mina, Ramos, Hop

• Sidney fairy-weak: BP Erika, Ghetsis, BP Clemont (poison stall)

• Sidney flying-weak: Blue, Agatha, BP Janine

• Phoebe dark-weak: Lucy, Janine, BP Morty (poison stall)

• Phoebe electric-weak: Sophocles, BP Sophocles, BP Let. Surge

• Phoebe electric-weak: BP Janine, Viola, BP Clemont (poison stall)

• Phoebe ghost-weak: Giovanni, Agatha, Cheryl

• Glacia fighting-weak: MC Solgaleo, Tech Victreebel, Roxanne

• Glacia fighting-weak: Sycamore, Janine, MC Cobalion (Sycamore stall)

• Glacia steel-weak: Lucy, Janine, BP Morty (poison stall)

• Glacia steel-weak: BP Janine, Viola, BP Morty (poison stall)

• Drake dragon-weak: Cyrus, Whitney, Roxanne

• Drake rock-weak: Roark, Ramos, Hop

• Drake rock-weak: Lucy, Tech Nidoqueen, Skyla (poison stall)

• Drake rock-weak: Koga, Mina, BP Clemont (poison stall)

• Steven ground-weak: BP Erika, Ghetsis, Skyla (poison stall)

• Steven water-weak: Cyrus, Winona, Sycamore

• Wallace psychic-weak: BP Erika, Ghetsis, BP Morty (poison stall)

Hopefully I find time to update the Sinnoh list with last month's

[void igloo]

Pasio Special Stadium electric-weak

https://youtu.be/TMZkDRhVbro?si=QPsexahOp0tE9qSj

[void igloo]

Very late posting of Pasio Special Stadium fighting-weak

https://youtu.be/oNu2T9uidjw?si=3R-c9mmM8lM7xIpE

[void igloo]

Pasio Special Stadium
Fairy weak with Champion Nate

https://youtu.be/CUfQL6TMQO4?si=e2hF0BMXUhqQnp-q

[void igloo]

Paldea CSMM
Scottie run

Then a remaining type run

https://youtu.be/5iv1oL5p_wk?si=IqA0xQxkwtOJ_xtg